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"innerHTML": "\n\u003cp> So what happens in the initiation of limerence is you get a powerful reward, and you learn the connection to that reward, and so you seek the reward, and you get a very powerful motivation to want that person. Oxytocin and dopamine in the reward system working together can imprint that person as the primary source of reward in the world. They become what could be called a super normal stimulus. They become an extremely powerful source of rewards. That wanting drive driven by dopamine gets stronger and stronger, and your ability to self-regulate because of feedback from the executive parts of the brain, so the prefrontal cortex, gets weaker and weaker. You end up in a state where you feel that you’ve got a desire that’s just insatiable, and you can’t resist it, and you don’t even want to resist it. You’re just completely captured by it. \u003c/p>\n",
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"innerHTML": "\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Tom Bellamy: \u003c/strong>Not really. Limerence is a runaway reward system. About half of us have it; about half of us experience it. It doesn’t predict for other antisocial behaviors. The people that stalk have other problems, other issues, often other psychiatric problems. The motivations for stalking are often a sense of entitlement to the attention of the other person, a desire to hurt the other person. Stalking is linked to ex-partners and that they feel, “I’ve been hurt so I should be allowed to hurt you.” The psychology and psychiatry behind stalking is quite distinct from limerence. I could imagine if somebody did have a predisposition to stalking behavior and they became limerent, then yes, their limerant objects, the person that they’re infatuated with, could become the target for the stalking. But I think if people are going through limerence but are otherwise psychologically healthy, there’s no reason to think that they would violate boundaries or do any of this almost criminal behavior.\u003c/p>\n",
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We talk to Bellamy about what happens in the brain when desire becomes fixation and why the people who give us the biggest romantic highs aren’t necessarily the best partners for us.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guest: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Tom Bellamy,\u003c/strong> neuroscientist; author, \u003cem>Smitten: Romantic Obsession, the Neuroscience of Limerence, and How to Make Love Last.\u003c/em>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lesley McClurg: \u003c/strong>When you fall in love, it’s always intoxicating. But when that person is really all you can think about — you can’t concentrate, you’ve fallen into a black hole of attraction — that’s limerence, an intense, romantic craving, almost like an addiction. Tom, what would you add to that definition? How would you flesh that out?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Tom Bellamy: \u003c/strong>I generally describe limerence as an altered mental state. It really feels like your brain is operating in a different mode. It feels like you have literally been transformed by the experience of becoming infatuated with another person. It’s a very intense infatuation. It goes beyond the happy vibes and the butterflies and the excitement of early love into a complete mental capture. It takes over your internal world. It’s largely about the intensity of the experience and the fact that it can become involuntary. It feels like you’re not able to regulate your own emotions and own mood to the same extent that you used to be able to. And it generally takes a bit of time for that to happen. So early on, limerence just feels wonderful, euphoric, exhilarating, intoxicating. Limerence is such a powerful natural high that it can become addictive. You can go into that state where it feels much more obsessive, and it feels like your mood is dependent on the behavior of the other person, the person that you’re infatuated with. 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It’s not inevitable that limerence will progress into this slightly unregulated psychological state. But if there is uncertainty, that can be a major factor for driving it forward. That uncertainty could either come from your own indecision that you don’t feel confident about declaring yourself or you don’t feel confident starting a relationship and so you hesitate. Or it could be the other person provides the uncertainty that you’re not sure how they feel about you, maybe they give you mixed messages and sometimes they seem very interested but then other times they seem cold and you’re not quite sure what’s going on or where you are or how serious it is. Those sorts of things can push the feelings from that exhilaration and the euphoria into a fixation and a dependency where they become a source of obsession for you.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lesley McClurg: \u003c/strong>And you’ve experienced this; what did it look like? 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I developed limerence for somebody else outside of marriage. In my case, it was a coworker. I did not want to form a romantic relationship with her, and she wasn’t available to have a romantic relationship anyway. It was the first time in my life that I experienced that emotional overwhelm without wanting it to go anywhere, without it feeling like the beginning of something meaningful. I then had to confront the fact that despite being happily in love and in a stable relationship that was very positive, that I was infatuated with somebody else. Because I am a neuroscientist, I looked at it from the perspective of, well, what’s going on in the brain to cause this? I could recognize that the driving force and the underlying experience and the symptoms of limerence could be explained in the context of behavioral addiction, that a natural reward can be so powerful that it can become addictive.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lesley McClurg: \u003c/strong>Give us a layman’s version of what is going on in the brain. What’s happening there in the addiction pathways?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Tom Bellamy: \u003c/strong>Obviously, falling in love is a wonderful thing; it’s a very positive thing, it’s a very beneficial thing. So, it’s not a surprise that we have circuits within the brain that are tuned to recognizing desirable mates who we could potentially form a romantic pair bond with. And that thrill of excitement and exhilaration is hugely rewarding. It’s also hugely arousing so you get all the butterflies in the tummy and the racing hearts and all the symptoms of arousal. There’s an erotic component as well. So you’ve got all the sexual arousal elements too. And then there’s a third element to limerence within the brain, which is about oxytocin, which is the bonding hormone that helps us connect rewards to social cues.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp> So what happens in the initiation of limerence is you get a powerful reward, and you learn the connection to that reward, and so you seek the reward, and you get a very powerful motivation to want that person. Oxytocin and dopamine in the reward system working together can imprint that person as the primary source of reward in the world. They become what could be called a super normal stimulus. They become an extremely powerful source of rewards. That wanting drive driven by dopamine gets stronger and stronger, and your ability to self-regulate because of feedback from the executive parts of the brain, so the prefrontal cortex, gets weaker and weaker. 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Once you had this knowledge and you knew what was going on, how did you break it?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Tom Bellamy: \u003c/strong>Essentially, it’s trying to undo that training, try to reverse it. You have to try and reduce the reward that’s associated with the other person. You try to wake up your executive brain and get it to pay attention a little bit and break the habit loops and recognize, “Oh, that was a limerent instinct; I need to pay attention to this. I shouldn’t just follow it on autopilot as a habit.” The other thing, if you think of it in terms of an addiction, is you really need to break contact with the person that you’re infatuated with. You need to cut off the supply so that you’re not constantly reinforcing that attachment.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lesley McClurg: \u003c/strong>And if you don’t do that, it seems like this could lead to some pretty bad antisocial behaviors, stalking, that kind of thing. 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Even if you get reciprocation and you form a relationship, and you get all those thrills, it’s probably going to last maybe a couple of years, and then it will fade. You are going to get caught in this cycle of constantly chasing it. One of the very common mistakes that people who experience limerence make about love is that they think the strength of their limerence is a measure of how good the other person is as a partner. And it’s really not connected. What makes somebody compatible for you for a long-term relationship and what excites your limerent brain can be completely unrelated, and often they run against each other. You get the thrills and the excitement for one class of person, but unfortunately they are not a good prospect for a long-term mate.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lesley McClurg: \u003c/strong>But that’s so confusing, right? 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But now I realize I have a total pattern of dating narcissistic personality disorder folks. That high that they take you on, all that attention is so intoxicating, and then they pull it away, and I would fall on my face.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Tom Bellamy: I\u003c/strong>t’s important to recognize that some people are very powerful limerent objects. They behave in a way that will attract and trap lots of people. As I said at the outset, if they’re behaving in a way that’s very unpredictable, so, they start with the love bombing, and it feels wonderful and exciting and fun and fantastic, but then withdraw emotionally, you don’t rationally go, “Oh, it turns out they’re unreliable. All my feelings for them have gone away.” You get the panic of thinking, “Oh, this thing that I thought was wonderful is slipping away now.” And so it motivates you to try and bond harder, try and reconnect and get back that early phase that was so pleasant, that was pleasurable, enjoyable. 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It’s very likely to cause a relapse because the idea of being separated from them is so aversive; you feel like you’ve been deprived of the greatest reward in the world. It is actually better in that situation to step it down and to start trying to exercise your executive brain and say, okay, we’ll go from constantly looking at her Facebook page or constantly being on his Instagram or constantly texting her to reducing the amount of contact step by step. A lot of getting out of limerence is almost playing mental tricks on yourself. The limerent part of your brain is like a child. They don’t understand why constantly wanting sweets isn’t good for them, and they need to be parented.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lesley McClurg: \u003c/strong>Gentle parenting, shall we say? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Tom Bellamy: \u003c/strong>Yeah, and the negotiation with yourself, not tyrannizing yourself, “Why am I so weak? 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(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The city watchdog’s \u003ca href=\"https://media.api.sf.gov/documents/OIG_Report_Official_Misconduct_William_Palmer_President_Sheriffs_Department_Ov_Yo2yQCP.pdf\">report\u003c/a> released earlier this month found that Palmer violated city law 14 times between December 2025 and July 2026. In one example of official misconduct, the report detailed a 2025 traffic stop by San Francisco sheriff’s deputies in the Tenderloin for Palmer’s expired registration. In the 51-minute stop, Palmer repeated that he was the president of the Oversight Board at least six times, referenced his relationship with Sheriff Paul Miyamoto and threatened retaliation against the deputies.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Months later, San Francisco Police briefly detained Palmer for questioning, as part of an investigation into a missing, “at-risk” woman. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/san-francisco-board-of-supervisors\">The San Francisco Board of Supervisors\u003c/a> voted Tuesday to suspend and file misconduct charges \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12101463/san-francisco-supervisors-to-weigh-removal-of-sheriffs-oversight-president\">against a sheriff’s oversight official\u003c/a>, moving a step closer to removing him from his post.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The motion, passed by 10 out of 11 city supervisors, followed a city anti-corruption investigation into Sheriff’s Oversight Board President William Palmer. It found that he used his public position for his personal benefit multiple times over the course of his tenure.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“When you are appointed to serve the public in any position within San Francisco, you need to uphold that position with integrity,” said Supervisor Stephen Sherrill, who first introduced the charges against Palmer. “When you abuse your power or break the trust of the public, you should not be allowed to continue to serve the people of San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The charges will then be forwarded to an ethics committee hearing, before heading back to the supervisors for a final decision.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Sherrill called for the investigation after a damning \u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/william-palmer-san-francisco-sheriff-22395646.php\">investigation\u003c/a> into Palmer this summer, which alleged that he picked up a woman experiencing a mental health crisis off the street, pressured her to have sex and gave her drugs. Palmer told the paper he was acting in his official capacity when requesting access to the woman, conducting an official investigation on behalf of the board. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250128-SFImmigration-49-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12024441\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250128-SFImmigration-49-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250128-SFImmigration-49-BL-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250128-SFImmigration-49-BL-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250128-SFImmigration-49-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250128-SFImmigration-49-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250128-SFImmigration-49-BL-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Supervisor Stephen Sherrill speaks during a press conference with elected and public safety officials and labor leaders in front of City Hall in San Francisco on Jan. 28, 2025, to reaffirm San Francisco’s commitment to being a Sanctuary City. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The city watchdog’s \u003ca href=\"https://media.api.sf.gov/documents/OIG_Report_Official_Misconduct_William_Palmer_President_Sheriffs_Department_Ov_Yo2yQCP.pdf\">report\u003c/a> released earlier this month found that Palmer violated city law 14 times between December 2025 and July 2026. In one example of official misconduct, the report detailed a 2025 traffic stop by San Francisco sheriff’s deputies in the Tenderloin for Palmer’s expired registration. In the 51-minute stop, Palmer repeated that he was the president of the Oversight Board at least six times, referenced his relationship with Sheriff Paul Miyamoto and threatened retaliation against the deputies.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Months later, San Francisco Police briefly detained Palmer for questioning, as part of an investigation into a missing, “at-risk” woman. Again, the commissioner used his position in an attempt to influence and intimidate, the report alleged. Palmer told officers he was President of the Sheriff’s Department Oversight Board at least six times, and “repeatedly threatened to sue” the officers. Palmer was not arrested and does not face criminal charges for the incident.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The woman was eventually transported to Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital on a mental health hold. A few hours after the encounter, Palmer emailed the San Francisco District Attorney’s Office from his city email. Palmer wrote that he was seeking “professional guidance” about the day’s events, and described himself as the woman’s life coach. He signed the email as “President, Sheriff’s Department Oversight Board.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Late that night, Palmer called a secure ward at the hospital, told a nurse that he was president of the Sheriff’s Department Oversight Board, and insisted that he be allowed to speak to the woman because he was conducting an investigation and needed to take her statement.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Palmer did not immediately respond to a KQED request for comment. However, in a previous statement to KQED, he said he takes his “responsibilities as a public officer seriously,” and disagrees “with significant factual and legal conclusions contained” in the watchdog report.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Palmer was appointed to the Sheriff’s Department Oversight Board, based on his personal experiences with the carceral system. Now 55, Palmer spent more than 30 years in prison for a crime he committed as a teenager. He was released in 2019, and a court of appeal later found that his sentence amounted to excessive punishment. He’s since served as a \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/justinphillips/article/sf-generational-incarceration-jail-17827159.php\">vocal advocate\u003c/a> for people in jails.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Palmer’s tenure on the board, however, has involved multiple run-ins with law enforcement. A woman accused Palmer of rape, though criminal charges were \u003ca href=\"https://sfpublicdefender.org/2024/04/03/all-charges-dismissed-against-william-palmer-sf-sheriffs-dept-oversight-board-member/\">dismissed\u003c/a> in 2024. Three other women accused him of violence, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/jail-oversight-criminal-allegations-22194091.php\">\u003cem>Chronicle’s\u003c/em>\u003c/a> reporting — which also said another woman took out a restraining order against him. That, the \u003cem>Chronicle\u003c/em> reports, is in addition to several traffic violations and almost $10,000 in parking fees over six years.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Sherrill emphasized that officials needed to act in the most “legally defensive way. We didn’t touch on some of those potential criminal challenges.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Obviously I am horrified by those accusations,” he said, referring to the allegations in the \u003cem>Chronicle’s\u003c/em> reporting. “I don’t want to put those aside, but it’s important for us on the Board of Supervisors to work with the information that we have to move forward as quickly as possible.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mayor Daniel Lurie has repeatedly referenced the allegations against Palmer as part of his push for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12096437/sf-mayor-backers-renew-push-for-increased-mayoral-power\">Proposition F\u003c/a>, a ballot measure which would expand both the mayor and board’s authority to allow the removal of most commissioners without cause. Some progressives, including Supervisor Jackie Fielder, the Democratic Socialists of America San Francisco and former Supervisor Dean Preston, have opposed the mayor, saying that it’s already easy for the mayor to remove officials. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Palmer’s term as a commissioner ends in March, unless he is removed sooner. His tenure as board president closes at the end of September. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/shossaini\">\u003cem>Sara Hossaini\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\n\u003cp>When every major live music show feels like \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101892062/everyone-hates-ticketmaster\">it costs an arm and a leg\u003c/a>, it’s always a relief when it’s time for San Francisco’s free festival: \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13979075/hardly-strictly-lineup-2025-lucinda-williams-samara-joy-courtney-barnett-more\">Hardly Strictly Bluegrass\u003c/a>, often called Hardly Strictly or HSB.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>This weekend’s long-running, all-ages music festival features a packed lineup of country, folk, jazz and bluegrass performers — no ticket required.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But a free festival means big crowds, which can make for a hectic weekend in Golden Gate Park, especially with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12055844/hardly-strictly-2025-lineup-schedule-golden-gate-park-san-francisco-maps-parking#bring\">bag checks that have been implemented in recent years. \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/HardlyStrictlyBluegrassGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12056114\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/HardlyStrictlyBluegrassGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/HardlyStrictlyBluegrassGetty-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/HardlyStrictlyBluegrassGetty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">People dance together as Fantastic Negrito performs on the Swan Stage during the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival 2019 at Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, California, on Oct. 6, 2019. (Carlos Avila Gonzalez/The San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Read more to learn how to best plan for attending Hardly Strictly this weekend, or jump straight to:\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#schedule\">What’s the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass 2026 schedule?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#parking\">Is parking possible at Hardly Strictly Bluegrass?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#food\">What food and drink can I still bring into Hardly Strictly Bluegrass (and what’s now banned)?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">When is Hardly Strictly Bluegrass 2026, and where is it in Golden Gate Park?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Hardly Strictly will be held Friday-Sunday, Oct. 2-4, at Hellman Hollow and Lindley and Marx meadows in Golden Gate Park.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Entrances will open at 11 a.m. on Friday and at 9 a.m. Saturday and Sunday. Performances end at 7 p.m. each day. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1175\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12041404\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed-800x470.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed-1020x599.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed-160x94.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed-1536x902.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed-1920x1128.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Conservatory of Flowers in San Francisco’s Golden Gate Park. (Lisa Aliferis/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Attendees are asked to \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/info-faq-2025/\">enter the festival\u003c/a> through gates at:\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>JFK Drive and Transverse Drive\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Fulton Street and 30th Avenue\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>JFK Drive and 36th Avenue\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>South Polo Field (Middle Drive and Metson Road)\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>It gets \u003cem>crowded\u003c/em> at Hardly Strictly, so it’s good to get there early to claim your spot — although this might make stage-hopping hard.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In past years, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12055844/hardly-strictly-2025-lineup-schedule-golden-gate-park-san-francisco-maps-parking\">waste management has also conducted sweeps of the park\u003c/a> each night after performances end, so you likely won’t be able to “save your place” with blankets and belongings the day before.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"schedule\">What’s the Hardly Strictly schedule, and which artists are playing?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/headline/2026-lineup-announcements/\">entire lineup and schedule can be found on the Hardly Strictly website\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13991930/hardly-strictly-2026-lineup-my-morning-jacket-gillian-welch-kathleen-edwards\">Highlights of the 2026 festival include\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>My Morning Jacket\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Mavis Staples\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Jesse Welles.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Los Lobos\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>And if you aren’t able to make it to HSB in person, the Banjo, Swan, Towers of Gold, Rooster, Arrow and Horseshoe Hill Stages will also be \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.vhx.tv/browse\">livestreamed on HSB’s website\u003c/a>. Some of the artists in the HSB lineup are also \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/out-of-the-park/\">performing in venues around the region\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What can I bring to Hardly Strictly?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>If it’s been a few years since you attended Hardly Strictly, many security measures will be new to you — including fences and entry through the four main gates. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/music/hardly-strictly-announces-new-security-measures-leave-your-cooler-at-home\">measures were implemented\u003c/a> in 2019 following a wave of mass shootings at large events across the U.S. Attendees at Hardly Strictly can now expect a security presence, including body scanners and possible bag and cooler searches.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Each person can bring \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/info-faq-2026/\">a personal item and a bag\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1980\" height=\"1320\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2239117637.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12100876\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2239117637.jpg 1980w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2239117637-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2239117637-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1980px) 100vw, 1980px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Thousands gather for the final day of the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass festival at Golden Gate Park on Sunday, Oct. 5, 2025. (Brontë Wittpenn/San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Clear bags are recommended for easier entry. Regular bags, such as non-transparent backpacks, must not exceed 6 inches by 8 inches by 3 inches.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Beer and wine are allowed but must be in non-glass containers. Blankets and tarps up to 6 feet by 8 feet, as well as low chairs, are also allowed.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Items such as wagons, strollers, low-back chairs, non-clear medium backpacks, totes, and soft coolers are allowed but will be subject to more thorough searches, which may take longer. So if you’re bringing these items, don’t cut it fine to see your favorite act.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You cannot bring:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>Large or hard coolers\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>High-backed chairs\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Tables\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Tents\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Umbrellas and shade structures\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Tarps and blankets larger than 6 feet by 8 feet\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Items with an open flame, firearms, drones, fireworks\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Kegs and hard liquor\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Glass containers\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Devices for amplified sound or any item that could cause damage or injury\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Smoking — \u003ca href=\"https://www.sf.gov/information--know-your-rights-cannabis-consumer\">including weed\u003c/a> — is also not allowed in any area in Golden Gate Park due to a San Francisco ordinance. (Although you may still see people lighting up on Hippie Hill \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12080068/official-san-francisco-hippie-hill-celebration-canceled-for-third-time-in-a-row-where-to-observe-420-around-the-bay-area\">during certain times of the year\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"food\">What about food at Hardly Strictly?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Guests \u003cem>are \u003c/em>allowed to bring their own food — just not in glass containers. 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(Santiago Mejia/San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Plan for things to be cashless. 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Be sure to plan for extra travel time, because there \u003cem>will \u003c/em>be traffic and big crowds.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260911-FareRequired-NG-11.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12099241\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260911-FareRequired-NG-11.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260911-FareRequired-NG-11-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260911-FareRequired-NG-11-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A Muni bus marquee says “Fare Required” in San Francisco’s Outer Richmond neighborhood on Sept. 11, 2026. 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If you choose to drive, however, there may be paid parking on a first-come, first-served basis.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Below are the paid parking lots that are usually available during this event. However, they are independently owned, so Hardly Strictly organizers \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/info-faq-2025/#venue\">cannot guarantee they’ll remain exactly the same this year:\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>George Washington High School at 600 32nd Ave. \u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Argonne at 680 18th Ave.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Lawton Alternative School at 1570 31st Ave.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Lafayette Elementary at 4545 Anza St.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>SFUSD Admin Campus at 750 25th Ave.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Accessible parking is available along JFK, west of Chain of Lakes. There will be shuttle stops at JFK & Bernice Rodgers Way, JFK & Chain of Lakes, JFK near Gate 3 entry and GGP Senior Center, 6101 Fulton St.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Remember, if you’re choosing to try to park near Hardly Strictly, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11959477/car-break-ins-bay-area-glass-repair-what-to-do\">break-ins are still common in San Francisco\u003c/a> — so leave nothing visible in your vehicle, and if at all possible, leave your trunk exposed to show it’s empty. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Don’t leave any electronics like laptops in your vehicle, even if you think they’re hidden. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11959799/how-to-avoid-a-car-break-in-bay-area\">Read more about how to potentially reduce your risk of getting your car broken into.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How does rideshare pickup and drop-off work at Hardly Strictly?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>There will be taxi stands at Fulton from 22nd Avenue to 24th Avenue.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>There are pickups and drop-offs for rideshares like Lyft and Uber around “Washington High School on both 30th Avenue between Anza and Balboa and on Balboa between 30th and 31st [avenues],” according to the \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/info-faq-2026/\">Hardly Strictly website\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>There are pickups on Irving between 25th Avenue and 27th Avenue.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Due to the large amounts of traffic coming to and from the park, ridesharing apps will only allow pin drops from the designated pickup area, so you should make your way to the drop-off/pickup location before calling for your ride,” the website notes.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Bear in mind: Ordering a Waymo specifically could get tricky at places with high crowds. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>For example, Fourth of July this year saw \u003ca href=\"https://abc7news.com/post/waymo-fleet-clogs-presidio-july-4-fireworks-leaving-vehicles-stranded-towed/19455862/\">many Waymos gridlocked and jammed in traffic\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But according to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/article/outside-lands-muni-ridership-transit-waymo-22382965.php\">\u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, things went smoother after the city placed pickup/drop-off restrictions at the recent Outside Lands festival.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What should I know about accessibility at Hardly Strictly?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/info-faq-2026/\">the website\u003c/a>, Golden Gate Park “covers a lot of space and encompasses many types of terrain, including grassy fields, sandy pathways, paved walkways, potholes” and more.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Guests who seek accessible services can get a wristband at a tent near JFK and 36th Avenue, adjacent to Gate 3. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"969\" height=\"724\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/2025accessibilitymap2025.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12058463\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/2025accessibilitymap2025.png 969w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/2025accessibilitymap2025-160x120.png 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 969px) 100vw, 969px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">An accessibility map of the 2025 Hardly Strictly Bluegrass festival in Golden Gate Park. (Courtesy of Hardly Strictly Bluegrass)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The map below highlights the usual accessible services at Hardly Strictly, like entrances, viewing spots and accessible portable bathrooms.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Accessible parking is available along JFK, west of Chain of Lakes. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>There will be shuttle stops at JFK & Bernice Rodgers Way, JFK & Chain of Lakes, JFK near Gate 3 entry and GGP Senior Center, 6101 Fulton St.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What should I know about staying safe in a large crowd?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>As with any busy day at a festival, you should stay aware of your health and bodily needs. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED has \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12093415/the-no-judgement-guide-to-not-passing-out-at-a-concert-and-other-concert-health-tips\">a thorough guide on staying healthy and upright at a concert\u003c/a> that tackles fainting, dehydration, standing in the heat and the all-encompassing festival-goer’s mission of avoiding the dreaded port-a-potties.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Crowds can be especially overwhelming for some people. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>With \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/11/11/1054765905/what-went-wrong-at-astroworld-the-deadly-dynamics-of-crowd-surge\">past tragic incidents at other festivals\u003c/a>, it does not hurt to be cautious and prepared. Read \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/11/09/1053828800/south-korea-seoul-halloween-crowd-safety-tips\">NPR’s full guide on what to do if you find yourself caught in a crowd crush\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12093685\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589-2000x1500.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fans faint at concerts for a variety of reasons. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>When every major live music show feels like \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101892062/everyone-hates-ticketmaster\">it costs an arm and a leg\u003c/a>, it’s always a relief when it’s time for San Francisco’s free festival: \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13979075/hardly-strictly-lineup-2025-lucinda-williams-samara-joy-courtney-barnett-more\">Hardly Strictly Bluegrass\u003c/a>, often called Hardly Strictly or HSB.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>This weekend’s long-running, all-ages music festival features a packed lineup of country, folk, jazz and bluegrass performers — no ticket required.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But a free festival means big crowds, which can make for a hectic weekend in Golden Gate Park, especially with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12055844/hardly-strictly-2025-lineup-schedule-golden-gate-park-san-francisco-maps-parking#bring\">bag checks that have been implemented in recent years. \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/HardlyStrictlyBluegrassGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12056114\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/HardlyStrictlyBluegrassGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/HardlyStrictlyBluegrassGetty-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/HardlyStrictlyBluegrassGetty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">People dance together as Fantastic Negrito performs on the Swan Stage during the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival 2019 at Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, California, on Oct. 6, 2019. (Carlos Avila Gonzalez/The San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Read more to learn how to best plan for attending Hardly Strictly this weekend, or jump straight to:\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#schedule\">What’s the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass 2026 schedule?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#parking\">Is parking possible at Hardly Strictly Bluegrass?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#food\">What food and drink can I still bring into Hardly Strictly Bluegrass (and what’s now banned)?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">When is Hardly Strictly Bluegrass 2026, and where is it in Golden Gate Park?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Hardly Strictly will be held Friday-Sunday, Oct. 2-4, at Hellman Hollow and Lindley and Marx meadows in Golden Gate Park.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Entrances will open at 11 a.m. on Friday and at 9 a.m. Saturday and Sunday. Performances end at 7 p.m. each day. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1175\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12041404\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed-800x470.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed-1020x599.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed-160x94.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed-1536x902.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMG_6619_qed-1920x1128.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Conservatory of Flowers in San Francisco’s Golden Gate Park. (Lisa Aliferis/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Attendees are asked to \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/info-faq-2025/\">enter the festival\u003c/a> through gates at:\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>JFK Drive and Transverse Drive\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Fulton Street and 30th Avenue\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>JFK Drive and 36th Avenue\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>South Polo Field (Middle Drive and Metson Road)\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>It gets \u003cem>crowded\u003c/em> at Hardly Strictly, so it’s good to get there early to claim your spot — although this might make stage-hopping hard.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In past years, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12055844/hardly-strictly-2025-lineup-schedule-golden-gate-park-san-francisco-maps-parking\">waste management has also conducted sweeps of the park\u003c/a> each night after performances end, so you likely won’t be able to “save your place” with blankets and belongings the day before.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"schedule\">What’s the Hardly Strictly schedule, and which artists are playing?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/headline/2026-lineup-announcements/\">entire lineup and schedule can be found on the Hardly Strictly website\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13991930/hardly-strictly-2026-lineup-my-morning-jacket-gillian-welch-kathleen-edwards\">Highlights of the 2026 festival include\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>My Morning Jacket\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Mavis Staples\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Jesse Welles.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Los Lobos\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>And if you aren’t able to make it to HSB in person, the Banjo, Swan, Towers of Gold, Rooster, Arrow and Horseshoe Hill Stages will also be \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.vhx.tv/browse\">livestreamed on HSB’s website\u003c/a>. Some of the artists in the HSB lineup are also \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/out-of-the-park/\">performing in venues around the region\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What can I bring to Hardly Strictly?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>If it’s been a few years since you attended Hardly Strictly, many security measures will be new to you — including fences and entry through the four main gates. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/music/hardly-strictly-announces-new-security-measures-leave-your-cooler-at-home\">measures were implemented\u003c/a> in 2019 following a wave of mass shootings at large events across the U.S. Attendees at Hardly Strictly can now expect a security presence, including body scanners and possible bag and cooler searches.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Each person can bring \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/info-faq-2026/\">a personal item and a bag\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1980\" height=\"1320\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2239117637.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12100876\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2239117637.jpg 1980w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2239117637-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2239117637-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1980px) 100vw, 1980px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Thousands gather for the final day of the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass festival at Golden Gate Park on Sunday, Oct. 5, 2025. (Brontë Wittpenn/San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Clear bags are recommended for easier entry. Regular bags, such as non-transparent backpacks, must not exceed 6 inches by 8 inches by 3 inches.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Beer and wine are allowed but must be in non-glass containers. Blankets and tarps up to 6 feet by 8 feet, as well as low chairs, are also allowed.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Items such as wagons, strollers, low-back chairs, non-clear medium backpacks, totes, and soft coolers are allowed but will be subject to more thorough searches, which may take longer. So if you’re bringing these items, don’t cut it fine to see your favorite act.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You cannot bring:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>Large or hard coolers\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>High-backed chairs\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Tables\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Tents\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Umbrellas and shade structures\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Tarps and blankets larger than 6 feet by 8 feet\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Items with an open flame, firearms, drones, fireworks\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Kegs and hard liquor\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Glass containers\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Devices for amplified sound or any item that could cause damage or injury\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Smoking — \u003ca href=\"https://www.sf.gov/information--know-your-rights-cannabis-consumer\">including weed\u003c/a> — is also not allowed in any area in Golden Gate Park due to a San Francisco ordinance. (Although you may still see people lighting up on Hippie Hill \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12080068/official-san-francisco-hippie-hill-celebration-canceled-for-third-time-in-a-row-where-to-observe-420-around-the-bay-area\">during certain times of the year\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"food\">What about food at Hardly Strictly?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Guests \u003cem>are \u003c/em>allowed to bring their own food — just not in glass containers. There are also free water refill stations scattered throughout the festival. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>You can \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/2026-food-and-drink/\">scope out the list of vendors on Hardly Strictly’s website\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2238863551.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12100882\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2238863551.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2238863551-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2238863551-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Tiffanie Tippens dancing to the Dan Tyminski Band performing at the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass music festival on Saturday, Oct. 4, 2025, in San Francisco, California. (Santiago Mejia/San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Plan for things to be cashless. Vendors will be located at:\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>Arrow Food Meadow\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>JFK Food Trucks\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>JFK Flats\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Porch Stage Area\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What’s the weather forecast for Hardly Strictly this year?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Usually, Golden Gate Park is an area of San Francisco that you can rely on to bring the chill even on the balmiest days (which \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12091823/outside-lands-2026-tickets-parking-road-closures-and-bag-rules\">Outside Lands \u003c/a>attendees know all too well).\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But it’s been getting hotter in the Bay Area as of late, so be sure to \u003ca href=\"https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=37.769421&lon=-122.48621\">keep an eye on the weather forecast\u003c/a> and plan to bring the usual Golden Gate Park survival kit: water, sunscreen and layers.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Will there be a bus running in the park during Hardly Strictly?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The park service will be running its shuttle service during the music festival. \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfrecpark.org/1617/Golden-Gate-Park-Free-Shuttle\">Get the shuttle hours and schedule.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What does public transit look like during Hardly Strictly?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>You can consult \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfmta.com/travel-updates/hardly-strictly-bluegrass-october-2-4-2026\">SFMTA’s website\u003c/a> for the latest updates on Muni. There will also be \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfmta.com/travel-updates/hardly-strictly-bluegrass-october-2-4-2026#extra\">extra Muni services\u003c/a> throughout the weekend.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Muni routes affected will be N Judah, 5 Fulton, 5R Fulton Rapid, 7 Haight/Noriega, 18 46th Avenue, 28 19th Avenue, 29 Sunset and 44 O’Shaughnessy. Be sure to plan for extra travel time, because there \u003cem>will \u003c/em>be traffic and big crowds.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260911-FareRequired-NG-11.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12099241\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260911-FareRequired-NG-11.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260911-FareRequired-NG-11-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260911-FareRequired-NG-11-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A Muni bus marquee says “Fare Required” in San Francisco’s Outer Richmond neighborhood on Sept. 11, 2026. (Nina Glick/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The N Judah, 7 Haight/Noriega, 28 19th Avenue, 29 Sunset and 44 O’Shaughnessy lines all serve areas of Golden Gate Park.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>There will be no bike valet at Hardly Strictly 2026, so be careful when \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101906075/bikes-stolen-in-the-bay-area-show-up-on-global-blackmarket\">parking and locking up your bike.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What roads will be closed around Golden Gate Park?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://sfrecpark.org/547/Golden-Gate-Park-Road-Closures\">Golden Gate Park’s website\u003c/a>, these roads will be closed before and during the event:\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>Transverse Drive will be closed from Crossover Drive (25th Avenue) to Martin Luther King Drive from 6:00 a.m. Friday until 11:55 p.m. on Sunday.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>JFK Drive between Stow Lake Circle and 36th Avenue will be closed from 8:00 p.m. Thursday until 6:00 p.m. on Monday.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>30th Avenue will be closed from Fulton to JFK Drive from 8:00 p.m. Thursday until Monday at 6:00 p.m.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>36th Avenue from Fulton to the turnaround from 6:00 a.m. Friday until 11:55 p.m. on Sunday\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>JFK Drive closed from 36th Avenue to Chain of Lakes Drive from 6 a.m. Friday until 11:55 p.m. on Sunday.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Polo Fields parking area on both the north (stables) and south side of the Polo fields from 6 a.m. on Friday until 1 p.m. on Monday.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Middle Drive West from Transverse to MLK from Friday at 6:00 a.m. until 11:55 p.m. on Sunday.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Overlook Drive from Transverse to Middle Drive West from Friday at 6:00 a.m. until 11:55 p.m. on Sunday.\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>Metson Drive from Middle Drive West to MLK from Friday at 6:00 a.m. until 11:55 p.m. on Sunday.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Golden Gate Park’s website also details closures on the days leading up to the festival, stating that JFK Drive will be closed between Transverse Drive and 36th Avenue due to “congestion from load-in.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Bikes will be allowed on JFK at 5 mph speed limit, except when arches are being installed, in which event they will be diverted,” \u003ca href=\"https://sfrecpark.org/547/Golden-Gate-Park-Road-Closures\">according to the website.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>There will be special accommodations for soccer players accessing Polo Field.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"parking\">What parking is available at Hardly Strictly?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Hardly Strictly encourages taking public transportation to the event. 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There will be shuttle stops at JFK & Bernice Rodgers Way, JFK & Chain of Lakes, JFK near Gate 3 entry and GGP Senior Center, 6101 Fulton St.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Remember, if you’re choosing to try to park near Hardly Strictly, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11959477/car-break-ins-bay-area-glass-repair-what-to-do\">break-ins are still common in San Francisco\u003c/a> — so leave nothing visible in your vehicle, and if at all possible, leave your trunk exposed to show it’s empty. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Don’t leave any electronics like laptops in your vehicle, even if you think they’re hidden. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11959799/how-to-avoid-a-car-break-in-bay-area\">Read more about how to potentially reduce your risk of getting your car broken into.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How does rideshare pickup and drop-off work at Hardly Strictly?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>There will be taxi stands at Fulton from 22nd Avenue to 24th Avenue.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>There are pickups and drop-offs for rideshares like Lyft and Uber around “Washington High School on both 30th Avenue between Anza and Balboa and on Balboa between 30th and 31st [avenues],” according to the \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/info-faq-2026/\">Hardly Strictly website\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>There are pickups on Irving between 25th Avenue and 27th Avenue.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Due to the large amounts of traffic coming to and from the park, ridesharing apps will only allow pin drops from the designated pickup area, so you should make your way to the drop-off/pickup location before calling for your ride,” the website notes.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Bear in mind: Ordering a Waymo specifically could get tricky at places with high crowds. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>For example, Fourth of July this year saw \u003ca href=\"https://abc7news.com/post/waymo-fleet-clogs-presidio-july-4-fireworks-leaving-vehicles-stranded-towed/19455862/\">many Waymos gridlocked and jammed in traffic\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But according to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/article/outside-lands-muni-ridership-transit-waymo-22382965.php\">\u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, things went smoother after the city placed pickup/drop-off restrictions at the recent Outside Lands festival.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What should I know about accessibility at Hardly Strictly?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/info-faq-2026/\">the website\u003c/a>, Golden Gate Park “covers a lot of space and encompasses many types of terrain, including grassy fields, sandy pathways, paved walkways, potholes” and more.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Guests who seek accessible services can get a wristband at a tent near JFK and 36th Avenue, adjacent to Gate 3. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"969\" height=\"724\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/2025accessibilitymap2025.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12058463\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/2025accessibilitymap2025.png 969w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/2025accessibilitymap2025-160x120.png 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 969px) 100vw, 969px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">An accessibility map of the 2025 Hardly Strictly Bluegrass festival in Golden Gate Park. (Courtesy of Hardly Strictly Bluegrass)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The map below highlights the usual accessible services at Hardly Strictly, like entrances, viewing spots and accessible portable bathrooms.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Accessible parking is available along JFK, west of Chain of Lakes. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>There will be shuttle stops at JFK & Bernice Rodgers Way, JFK & Chain of Lakes, JFK near Gate 3 entry and GGP Senior Center, 6101 Fulton St.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What should I know about staying safe in a large crowd?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>As with any busy day at a festival, you should stay aware of your health and bodily needs. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED has \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12093415/the-no-judgement-guide-to-not-passing-out-at-a-concert-and-other-concert-health-tips\">a thorough guide on staying healthy and upright at a concert\u003c/a> that tackles fainting, dehydration, standing in the heat and the all-encompassing festival-goer’s mission of avoiding the dreaded port-a-potties.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Crowds can be especially overwhelming for some people. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>With \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/11/11/1054765905/what-went-wrong-at-astroworld-the-deadly-dynamics-of-crowd-surge\">past tragic incidents at other festivals\u003c/a>, it does not hurt to be cautious and prepared. Read \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/11/09/1053828800/south-korea-seoul-halloween-crowd-safety-tips\">NPR’s full guide on what to do if you find yourself caught in a crowd crush\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12093685\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589-2000x1500.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/IMG_1589-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fans faint at concerts for a variety of reasons. Event medical professionals explain how to stay safe. (Anna Vignet/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>According to Mehdi Moussaïd, a research scientist in Berlin who studies crowd behavior, rely on your instincts and senses if you feel like the crowd is getting too dense. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>If you get stuck in a crush, move with the crowd, put your arms out in front of your chest and hold them there.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“In this position, you would have some space, just a little bit, to push for half a centimeter or just 1 centimeter — enough for you to keep breathing,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/11/09/1053828800/south-korea-seoul-halloween-crowd-safety-tips\">Moussaïd told NPR in 2022\u003c/a>. “It’s not going to be comfortable. You’re going to be feeling really bad, but at least you’ll survive.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story includes reporting by KQED’s \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/nvoynovskaya\">\u003cem>Nastia Voynovskaya\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/gmeline\">\u003cem>Gabe Meline\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> and \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/ralexandra\">\u003cem>Rae Alexandra\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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Its programming — including immigration support and leadership development — had already been halted.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But since then, things for Rimi and her organization have turned around: This week, the city’s Board of Supervisors \u003ca href=\"https://sanfrancisco.granicus.com/player/clip/53261?view_id=10&redirect=true\">unanimously approved\u003c/a> a resolution to \u003ca href=\"https://media.api.sf.gov/documents/bag092926_agenda.pdf\">allocate\u003c/a> $150,000 to Parivar Bay Area through its fiscal sponsor, \u003ca href=\"https://www.transcanwork.org/\">TransCanWork\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251021-DIWALI-PARIVAR-NK-04-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12060836\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251021-DIWALI-PARIVAR-NK-04-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251021-DIWALI-PARIVAR-NK-04-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251021-DIWALI-PARIVAR-NK-04-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Kaj (left) dances during the Diwali celebrations at Parivar Bay Area in San Francisco on Oct. 20, 2025. (Nisa Khan/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Rimi said the money is a “lifeline” and that she was “extremely relieved and eternally grateful for the City and County of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/san-francisco\">San Francisco\u003c/a> for truly coming through in these times and helping us rebuild.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We are staying in San Francisco, we’re rebuilding, and we’re opening our doors again,” she said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The resolution was \u003ca href=\"https://sfgov.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=8145043&GUID=ECF08B98-28F2-4B32-82DB-7516AF0277AF\">sponsored\u003c/a> by supervisors Mandelman, Connie Chan, Matt Dorsey and Bilal Mahmood. It will now head to Mayor Daniel Lurie’s desk to be signed and approved. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Parivar Bay Area fills a role no other organization does — it’s the only trans-led group focused on South Asian and Global South trans immigrants,” Mandelman said \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12091922/san-francisco-trans-led-space-fears-closure-9-months-after-opening\">in a July statement to KQED\u003c/a>. “Building that kind of trust and infrastructure took years, and it’s important to do what we can to keep it in place.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>While Parivar Bay Area did \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12060818/we-are-home-center-supporting-transgender-immigrants-opens-in-sf-during-diwali\">lose its original community space\u003c/a> in downtown San Francisco, Rimi said it has moved to an office at \u003ca href=\"https://stmarkssquare.org/\">St. Mark’s Square\u003c/a> near Japantown. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>She added that Parivar aims to start bringing back its programming early to mid-October, with a Diwali celebration slated for November. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“The Diwali [celebration] is kind of the testament of what it symbolizes — which is light over darkness, and saying, ‘This is now us getting back to doing the work,’” she said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>However, Rimi said that the full breadth of Parivar’s programming may not be able to return to its original scale. For example, Parivar may not be able to provide direct immigration and legal navigation support but switch to referrals. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We can’t bring everything back overnight,” she said. “But most important is that we have a physical space. We have a dot on the map in San Francisco … where one can walk through the doors during our opening hours and find support, culture and belonging.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Rimi said she saw ways the San Francisco community came to support Parivar — the organization \u003ca href=\"https://www.zeffy.com/en-US/donation-form/saveparivar\">received over $5,000 in donations\u003c/a> — but the experience highlighted to her that “impact alone doesn’t guarantee sustainability” and that the long-term future “cannot depend on one source of funding.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Community shouldn’t have to lose an institution or a grassroots organization like Parivar to realize how much they need it,” she said. “Because these services are sometimes not deemed as core services, but they’re the only services offered anywhere.”\u003c/p>\n",
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But he said he understands that word of his soft-retirement has set off a panic among his super fans here in the San Francisco Bay Area and beyond.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Back in August, during the height of stone fruit season, Mary Balmana drove all the way down from San Francisco — a two-hour drive, each way — to stock up on cherries, apricots and peaches, like the August Flame peach and the Cal Red.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-19-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12095047\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-19-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-19-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-19-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A peach ripens on a tree at Andy’s Orchard in Morgan Hill on Aug. 12, 2026. Tree-ripened fruit is more delicate and finicky to grow than most varieties sold today. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003cp>“I don’t have to peel them because it’s so luscious,” she said. “It’s tender, sweet beyond belief, and it just speaks for itself. I don’t have to do anything to it. It tastes like the peaches that I grew up with that we used to pick from a neighbor’s farm, you know, when we would go visit.”\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>When Balmana spotted Mariani in the store, she asked to have a photo taken with him.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In many ways, Mariani’s family history mirrors the last century of the Valley of Heart’s Delight. \u003ca href=\"https://andysorchard.com/about-us/\">His father came to the Santa Clara Valley\u003c/a> from a little island off the coast of Croatia in 1931. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>He was hardly the first to grow apricots in Cupertino. Spanish mission fathers planted trees in the region as early as the mid-1700s, and after the Gold Rush and the railroads in the 19th century, the Santa Clara Valley became a world-famous producer of dried and canned stone fruits.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>California’s ancient history, submerged beneath the Pacific Ocean, left a legacy of fertile soil for farming. Add to that the cool nights of the Santa Clara Valley, especially in winter, and you have a region second to none for stone fruit.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“It was great for decades and decades,” said Mariani, who took over the family farming operation with his brother after their father retired. “But then, like in the 1980s, the United States started importing Turkish apricots, and they were coming in very cheap, because of cheap labor in Turkey.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The brothers realized they had to diversify beyond the once famous Blenheim apricot, an heirloom variety that boasts flesh perfectly balanced between sweet and tart. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The Blenheim’s popularity was also at risk because, like \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/11/08/164696316/tracking-the-elusive-chocolate-persimmon\">many heirloom fruits\u003c/a>, the soft, small apricot is too delicate for mass shipping. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In an industry that, in a bid for growth, shifted to cold storage and steroidal, uniform fruits picked green and hard, the Marianis decided to go in a different direction. They specialized in fruit consumers, including professional chefs, who would pay more for them as they grew rarer and harder to find. That included heirloom fruit, like the Blenheim, and new varieties, like Baby Crawford peaches. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The brothers also decided to steer clear of competing with industrial agriculture by focusing on flavor, even though it leads to a highly perishable product that must be consumed in a matter of days, not weeks or months. “The last few days that the fruit is on the tree is when it increases tremendously in flavor, sugar content, and juiciness,” Mariani said.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>As other farmers packed up and left the Santa Clara Valley, Mariani leaned into new ways to make money: selling to chefs at the \u003ca href=\"https://www.laweekly.com/fruit-detective-david-karp-and-andy-mariani-now-at-the-santa-monica-farmers-market/\">Santa Monica Farmers Market\u003c/a> down south, educational \u003ca href=\"https://andysorchard.com/event-calendar/\">fruit picking tours and tastings\u003c/a>, as well as selling pies and other goodies at the farm’s retail store. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“A lot of people can farm at 80; fewer at 90,” said David Karp, a pomologist at UC Riverside’s botany department and Mariani’s business partner. The two recently traveled together to visit Mariani’s relatives in Croatia.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-08-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12095044\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-08-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-08-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-08-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fruit orchardist Andy Mariani drives through his farm, Andy’s Orchard, in Morgan Hill on Aug. 12, 2026. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003cp>Karp confirms that climate change and urbanization are gradually forcing the Valley of Heart’s Delight into the history books, even though Mariani will continue farming for the time being. Karp noted they stopped selling summer fruit at the Santa Monica Farmers Market a month early this year, in July instead of August. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>He has no doubt that whatever crops emerge next summer, the fruit will sell out.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot more demand for Andy’s fruit than there is fruit,” Karp said.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Even though fresh fruit fans have proven willing to pay more, rising costs still make it challenging to run an operation like Andy’s Orchard.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-6 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" data-id=\"12095045\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-16-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12095045\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-16-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-16-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-16-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A worker picks peaches at Andy’s Orchard, in Morgan Hill on Aug. 12, 2026. Even though foodies are willing to pay more for Mariani’s fruit, he notes that it costs more to grow that kind of fruit, too. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" data-id=\"12095046\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-17-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12095046\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-17-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-17-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-17-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fruit orchardist Andy Mariani at his farm, Andy’s Orchard, in Morgan Hill on Aug. 12, 2026. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We pay more than minimum wage because our people are skilled,” Mariani said. “We have workers that have worked for us for over 40 years, and so they know the orchard as well as I do, and because of that skill level, we pay ‘em well. And they’re in Silicon Valley, too. They need to get more money because it’s an \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11943634/bay-area-land-is-so-expensive-how-do-urban-farms-survive%20https://morganhilltimes.com/study-underway-for-376-home-project-on-andys-orchard-property/\">expensive place to live\u003c/a>. They get free rent, actually, but on the other hand, it’s still expensive.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>It’s only getting more so with each Silicon Valley boom. Where once the Marianis were one farming family among many, they have grown more and more isolated as the decades passed. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We’re basically surrounded by urban development now. We’re just a little piece of the jigsaw puzzle that hasn’t been put in yet,” he said, waving his hand to gesture at the neat rows of fruit trees in front of the farm store. Between this property and the nearest freeway exit, most of the land is paved over with housing developments, retail malls and office buildings.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12001249/what-are-heat-islands-and-where-are-they-in-the-bay-area\">Paved land is also hotter land\u003c/a>, which is growing hotter thanks to climate change. In addition to the growing threat from oak root fungus and ravenous squirrels, Mariani said crops are shrinking because the winters and the nights aren’t as cool as they used to be. This year, he said, was the orchard’s worst on record. Cherries came in at about 5% of a normal harvest, and his signature Baby Crawford peach crop failed almost completely.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-20-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12095048\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-20-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-20-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-20-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fruit orchardist Andy Mariani at his farm, Andy’s Orchard, in Morgan Hill on Aug. 12, 2026. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>If you grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area, you may already know the story of the Valley of Heart’s Delight. Before Silicon Valley took root in the Santa Clara Valley, immigrants from all over the world planted close to 100,000 acres of fruit trees and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11957868/from-fruit-picker-to-political-trailblazer-the-92-year-old-madrina-of-east-san-jose\">picked, processed and shipped\u003c/a> the apricots, peaches, plums and more. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nearly all of that is gone now, paved over and replaced with suburbs and office parks. Just a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11676561/to-survive-as-a-fruit-farmer-in-silicon-valley-you-need-to-grow-tastier-fruit\">handful of fruit farmers remain\u003c/a>, and they’re aging out.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Andy Mariani, one of that last handful, is 80 years old. He told KQED he’s tired of losing money year after year and struggling to make payroll. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“It doesn’t work anymore. It’s no longer economically viable to have this farm,” Mariani said, sitting in a gazebo to one side of the farm store. Somewhere nearby, chickens interrupted him periodically to proclaim for all the world to hear they just laid another egg. We gazed out across the parking lot to neat rows of fruit trees and flowering bushes designed to draw in hummingbirds, bees and other pollinators.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-5 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1502\" height=\"2000\" data-id=\"12101636\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260928-Last-Stone-Fruit-Growers-RM-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101636\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260928-Last-Stone-Fruit-Growers-RM-KQED.jpg 1502w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260928-Last-Stone-Fruit-Growers-RM-KQED-160x213.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260928-Last-Stone-Fruit-Growers-RM-KQED-1154x1536.jpg 1154w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1502px) 100vw, 1502px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Stone fruit on sale at the farm store at Andy’s Orchard in Morgan Hill on July 16, 2021. (Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" data-id=\"12095049\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-22-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12095049\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-22-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-22-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-22-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A quiet moment in the farm store at Andy’s Orchard in Morgan Hill on Aug. 12, 2026. Bay Area customers come from far and wide during the summer, when stone fruit is in season. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mariani knows a lot about fruit farming, and he wants to write a book about it while he still can. He is not giving up on fruit farming altogether, but the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11676561/to-survive-as-a-fruit-farmer-in-silicon-valley-you-need-to-grow-tastier-fruit\">family farm\u003c/a> in Morgan Hill, the one with the little farm store and the summer fruit-picking events that fill the rows with laughing, running children, has one more growing season before he hands the property to a real estate developer.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>As first reported by the \u003ca href=\"https://morganhilltimes.com/study-underway-for-376-home-project-on-andys-orchard-property/\">\u003cem>Morgan Hill Times\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, Mariani has signed an option agreement with a Southern California firm marketing a 376-home subdivision on the 58-acre property. A draft environmental impact report for the project is expected this fall, followed by a public review period. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>There’s organized opposition. State housing law puts a heavy finger on the scale, generally forcing local governments to approve qualifying developments. But Green Foothills, one of several environmental groups opposing the project, argues that Santa Clara County officials can still say no here, because the law makes an exception when a site lacks adequate water or wastewater facilities, and the developer would have to drill new wells and build a new on-site wastewater system.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mariani is not “hanging up his shears” just yet, as a recent \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/14/business/andys-orchard-silicon-valley.html\">\u003cem>New York Times\u003c/em> article\u003c/a> implied. He still intends to farm 20 acres of land he leases now nearby. But he said he understands that word of his soft-retirement has set off a panic among his super fans here in the San Francisco Bay Area and beyond.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Back in August, during the height of stone fruit season, Mary Balmana drove all the way down from San Francisco — a two-hour drive, each way — to stock up on cherries, apricots and peaches, like the August Flame peach and the Cal Red.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-19-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12095047\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-19-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-19-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-19-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A peach ripens on a tree at Andy’s Orchard in Morgan Hill on Aug. 12, 2026. Tree-ripened fruit is more delicate and finicky to grow than most varieties sold today. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003cp>“I don’t have to peel them because it’s so luscious,” she said. “It’s tender, sweet beyond belief, and it just speaks for itself. I don’t have to do anything to it. It tastes like the peaches that I grew up with that we used to pick from a neighbor’s farm, you know, when we would go visit.”\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>When Balmana spotted Mariani in the store, she asked to have a photo taken with him.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In many ways, Mariani’s family history mirrors the last century of the Valley of Heart’s Delight. \u003ca href=\"https://andysorchard.com/about-us/\">His father came to the Santa Clara Valley\u003c/a> from a little island off the coast of Croatia in 1931. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>He was hardly the first to grow apricots in Cupertino. Spanish mission fathers planted trees in the region as early as the mid-1700s, and after the Gold Rush and the railroads in the 19th century, the Santa Clara Valley became a world-famous producer of dried and canned stone fruits.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>California’s ancient history, submerged beneath the Pacific Ocean, left a legacy of fertile soil for farming. Add to that the cool nights of the Santa Clara Valley, especially in winter, and you have a region second to none for stone fruit.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“It was great for decades and decades,” said Mariani, who took over the family farming operation with his brother after their father retired. “But then, like in the 1980s, the United States started importing Turkish apricots, and they were coming in very cheap, because of cheap labor in Turkey.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The brothers realized they had to diversify beyond the once famous Blenheim apricot, an heirloom variety that boasts flesh perfectly balanced between sweet and tart. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The Blenheim’s popularity was also at risk because, like \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/11/08/164696316/tracking-the-elusive-chocolate-persimmon\">many heirloom fruits\u003c/a>, the soft, small apricot is too delicate for mass shipping. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In an industry that, in a bid for growth, shifted to cold storage and steroidal, uniform fruits picked green and hard, the Marianis decided to go in a different direction. They specialized in fruit consumers, including professional chefs, who would pay more for them as they grew rarer and harder to find. That included heirloom fruit, like the Blenheim, and new varieties, like Baby Crawford peaches. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The brothers also decided to steer clear of competing with industrial agriculture by focusing on flavor, even though it leads to a highly perishable product that must be consumed in a matter of days, not weeks or months. “The last few days that the fruit is on the tree is when it increases tremendously in flavor, sugar content, and juiciness,” Mariani said.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>As other farmers packed up and left the Santa Clara Valley, Mariani leaned into new ways to make money: selling to chefs at the \u003ca href=\"https://www.laweekly.com/fruit-detective-david-karp-and-andy-mariani-now-at-the-santa-monica-farmers-market/\">Santa Monica Farmers Market\u003c/a> down south, educational \u003ca href=\"https://andysorchard.com/event-calendar/\">fruit picking tours and tastings\u003c/a>, as well as selling pies and other goodies at the farm’s retail store. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“A lot of people can farm at 80; fewer at 90,” said David Karp, a pomologist at UC Riverside’s botany department and Mariani’s business partner. The two recently traveled together to visit Mariani’s relatives in Croatia.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-08-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12095044\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-08-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-08-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-08-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fruit orchardist Andy Mariani drives through his farm, Andy’s Orchard, in Morgan Hill on Aug. 12, 2026. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003cp>Karp confirms that climate change and urbanization are gradually forcing the Valley of Heart’s Delight into the history books, even though Mariani will continue farming for the time being. Karp noted they stopped selling summer fruit at the Santa Monica Farmers Market a month early this year, in July instead of August. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>He has no doubt that whatever crops emerge next summer, the fruit will sell out.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot more demand for Andy’s fruit than there is fruit,” Karp said.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Even though fresh fruit fans have proven willing to pay more, rising costs still make it challenging to run an operation like Andy’s Orchard.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-6 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" data-id=\"12095045\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-16-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12095045\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-16-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-16-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-16-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A worker picks peaches at Andy’s Orchard, in Morgan Hill on Aug. 12, 2026. Even though foodies are willing to pay more for Mariani’s fruit, he notes that it costs more to grow that kind of fruit, too. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" data-id=\"12095046\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-17-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12095046\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-17-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-17-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-17-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fruit orchardist Andy Mariani at his farm, Andy’s Orchard, in Morgan Hill on Aug. 12, 2026. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We pay more than minimum wage because our people are skilled,” Mariani said. “We have workers that have worked for us for over 40 years, and so they know the orchard as well as I do, and because of that skill level, we pay ‘em well. And they’re in Silicon Valley, too. They need to get more money because it’s an \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11943634/bay-area-land-is-so-expensive-how-do-urban-farms-survive%20https://morganhilltimes.com/study-underway-for-376-home-project-on-andys-orchard-property/\">expensive place to live\u003c/a>. They get free rent, actually, but on the other hand, it’s still expensive.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>It’s only getting more so with each Silicon Valley boom. Where once the Marianis were one farming family among many, they have grown more and more isolated as the decades passed. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We’re basically surrounded by urban development now. We’re just a little piece of the jigsaw puzzle that hasn’t been put in yet,” he said, waving his hand to gesture at the neat rows of fruit trees in front of the farm store. Between this property and the nearest freeway exit, most of the land is paved over with housing developments, retail malls and office buildings.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12001249/what-are-heat-islands-and-where-are-they-in-the-bay-area\">Paved land is also hotter land\u003c/a>, which is growing hotter thanks to climate change. In addition to the growing threat from oak root fungus and ravenous squirrels, Mariani said crops are shrinking because the winters and the nights aren’t as cool as they used to be. This year, he said, was the orchard’s worst on record. Cherries came in at about 5% of a normal harvest, and his signature Baby Crawford peach crop failed almost completely.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-20-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12095048\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-20-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-20-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260812-StoneFruitGrowers-20-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fruit orchardist Andy Mariani at his farm, Andy’s Orchard, in Morgan Hill on Aug. 12, 2026. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003cp>“It comes to the point where you wonder what you’re doing, even though you love what you are doing. I think it’s time for me to downscale, and continue doing where my passion is, right?”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Modern society seems to define progress as escaping physical work, even when that work leads to something very special,” he wrote in a recent newsletter. “Our once picturesque agricultural landscape that defined the valley was not simply replaced by what we call progress. Within that landscape there was also a culture, a special way of life. 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