It's easy to see a child's education as a path determined by grades, test scores and extracurricular activities. But genuine learning is about so much more than the points schools tally. MindShift explores the future of education by highlighting the innovative – and sometimes counterintuitive – ways educators are helping all children succeed.
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The Team

Ki Sung

Co-host

Ki Sung is the senior editor of MindShift. Prior to joining MindShift in 2014, she was a digital news trainer at NPR, where she gained valuable lessons about how people learn and what supports need to be in place to implement change. She balances life by cooking at home, writing fiction and sculpting at Core Power Yoga.

Katrina Schwartz

Co-host

Katrina grew up in San Francisco and is thrilled to have been reporting online and on air for KQED since 2010. For the past few years she's been obsessed with how to improve the education system, learning from some amazing educators along the way. She loves making the MindShift podcast because listeners get to know the incredible humans working and learning in schools. When she's not reporting, Katrina loves reading, the ocean and the mountains, and playing ultimate frisbee.

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