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She’s also co-host of the Political Breakdown podcast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos \u003c/strong>[00:01:46] We are sitting here on Tuesday, a week out. So 7.7 million ballots have been processed so far, and there’s 1.7 billion left. So it’s not an insignificant number, but it’s the bulk of the ballots. And it’s, I think, out of line with what we’ve seen maybe in previous elections. What feels more urgent this year is we did have this messy governor’s race. And so there’s a lot of attention on it. And we were one of the only primaries last week. So I think there’s been a sort of outsized amount of attention and frustration at the slow count.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:02:25] And I guess, like, what effects are you seeing so far of this long count? 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It did seem like just the upheaval in the governor’s race, the sort of crowded nature of it, the exit of Eric Swalwell in April, the sudden rise of Xavier Becerra, all of that kind of contributed to this phenomenon of Democrats, progressives, I think in particular, waiting until the last minute. And so in a state where Democrats outnumber Republicans two to one, that’s going to really slow down the process. And it’s also going to create what’s called a red mirage, where you had the sort of initial results look stronger for Republicans and conservative candidates than what the ultimate vote count is going to look like. 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Provisional ballots, people can go in and say, oh, you know, I missed the registration deadline or I missed my address changed, and they’re allowed to cast a ballot in person. But that ballot then on the back end also has to be verified. So, I mean, the irony of a lot of the attacks on our slow process is that it exists to ensure integrity. It exists to insure that people are who they say they are, that they’re voting only once, that they are voting properly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Shirley Weber \u003c/strong>[00:07:37] It’s unfortunate that people don’t believe we count fast. We do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos \u003c/strong>[00:07:38] You know, one of the biggest defenders of our election system has been the Secretary of State, Shirley Weber, who oversees this entire system. 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