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While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Back in September when wildfire smoke hovered over the Bay Area, emergency alerts started popping up on people’s phones. Air quality reached hazardous levels for those with respiratory diseases, the alerts read. 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Jasmine, I wonder if you can maybe just start by explaining when a disaster strikes, do we have systems set up to let everyone know when stuff hits the fan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>The short answer, unfortunately, is for a lot of people, no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Jasmine Aguilera is a senior reporter for El Timpano.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>For the most part, not everybody will receive timely and accurate information and in their own language or analysis adulting. But I found that of California’s 58 counties, only 21 offer alerts in a language other than English. We’re also giving these counties the benefit of the doubt because a lot of times we cannot actually test whether or not these alerts will send out until we can actually test their systems. So we took a look at the nine Bay Area counties here and determined that 3.2 million people here speak a language other than English at home. And because Alameda County and Solano counties do not offer alerts in a language other than English, we’re talking about at least 27% of the population that doesn’t have access to emergency alerts in their native language.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So those two counties that you mentioned, Alameda and Solano County, are the only counties in the Bay Area who aren’t offering alerts in any language other than English.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>Exactly. And I mean, two out of the nine. You know, that’s not bad. But these are counties with gigantic non-English populations. So it is a significant part of the population.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Jasmine, I wonder if we can step back a little bit and explain for us how these emergency alert systems work exactly and why is this happening? Where is the breakdown?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>So even signing up for alerts we found can be really challenging for non-English speakers. And we cover the Latino and Mayan immigrant communities here in the Bay Area. And we’ve done several surveys that show that often times, especially older immigrants do not have computers at home, do not have Internet at home. They may not even have an email address. And for the vast majority of California counties, you have to opt into the program. You have to actually go to the county website, put in your information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>And oftentimes these websites are asking for first name, last name, email addresses and home addresses. It is pretty obvious that if you’re an undocumented person, older person not familiar with technology, you may feel nervous about, you know, giving the government your personal address or you may not even understand what’s going on on this Web page. Many of the Web pages technically may offer a translated version if you select a widget at the top of the page to change your language preferences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>But if you’re not a tech savvy person, you may not know that at the top of the page where it says language, that means Ijeoma that you can change the language there. We found very few counties where you can text in to opt in, and even those it’s very hit or miss, whether or not even if you’re opting in, in your native language, whether you’ll actually receive ultimately those alerts in your native language.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Do we know anything about why it is an opt in system when any one of us would want to know what’s happening as soon as it happens, if there’s an emergency in our community?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>It sounds like a simple fix would be to create one gigantic system where people can opt in and then those that are at a federal level that exists. But we’re talking about a state that is gigantic, very complicated, very ecologically diverse. Disasters will vary depending on what part of the state you’re in. And so purposefully, the state of California has tried to make sure that each county is empowered to design their own individual opt in programs because they want to make sure that officials can handle whatever disaster is going on on a very localized level. But that means there isn’t one simple solution if you’re trying to make sure that disaster responses can be very, very localized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>And we found that, you know, sometimes there are the best intentions, just a lack of resources or other times they really just isn’t enough willpower to try to, you know, create a system. Maybe the population of non-English speakers is small enough that it’s just not top of mind for people when they’ve got so many other things that are on their plate. And then we found other counties that are in the middle of actually trying as hard as possible to create a robust system. But at least at the time of reporting, we found, you know, the vast majority of California’s programs are not up to the task right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, we’ll talk about one Bay Area county that has put in the work to reach more residents in an emergency. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Your reporting kind of zoomed into one Bay Area county in particular that was really trying to get its act together specifically for the Spanish speaking population. Can you tell me about that and what what your reporting found?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>We didn’t have to look very far. We went over to Sonoma County and saw the steps that they’ve taken. Basically, I mean, officials, they themselves will say it’s because they’ve faced disaster after disaster after disaster essentially since 2017. And they realized since the Tubbs fire of 2017 that their communications were just lacking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>In 2017 when that fire hit. None of this was in place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>We spoke to Alma Bowen, who is the founder and executive director of Nuestra Comunidad, a nonprofit organization that focuses on disaster preparedness and reaching specifically Spanish speaking communities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>And there was no organization. And so there were either duplication of services or there were needs that were not met because we simply didn’t know who could fill those needs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>Ultimately, what they did is they revamped their Sonoma County coed community organizations active in disaster. That’s what the acronym for which was a coalition of nonprofit organizations that are all each doing their own individual work for the community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>As soon as they’re going to activate their EOC or emergency operations center. That call gets put to code. From that moment on, until the emergency sovereign shuts down, one of us is present in that room. The expectation is that the message is go out simultaneously and at least English and Spanish, because those are our highest populations. And then year round, that’s part of the conversations we’re always having with them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>And also giving them a seat at the county government table so that everybody is in communication. Everybody knows what to do whenever a disaster strikes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>And so what’s happened is over time, we have become true partners now with the county.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>And then on top of that, they’ve also created essentially this bank of alerts prepared in advance in English and Spanish at the county level. So we’re talking about thousands of clips of audio in English and Spanish that are localized per Sonoma County zone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>So if there’s, you know, flooding in zone four, you know, they’ve got a clip already prerecorded so that they can just send that out in a push of a button rather than, you know, trying to gather all of the people and find a translator and make sure, you know, that that it’s all recorded before sending. It saves potentially, you know, minutes or hours. It could save lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>You know, if you’re not hearing that, you’re evacuating because it’s misunderstood or they’re telling you the wrong area, you might not get out in time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>There’s still a lot of people who will be left out even now. But, you know, as far as we could see, they are the ones who have really taken on the task and have have tried to do as much as possible since 2017.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m wondering, Jasmine, why you think Sonoma County was able to get its act together in this where I guess address this and why haven’t other counties been able to do that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>Alma Bowen said it best that Sonoma County really had no choice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>Had we not had Kincade Walbridge Glass, you know, all those different fires right out like almost on the heel of each other? I don’t know. It’s like every time a fire hit, it just kept smacking him into reality. You have to do something.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>She also said it’s important for these counties in California to realize that they have time right now. They can right now in this moment, try to revamp their programs, because when a disaster hits, that’s you know, that’s not the moment that you need to be trying to fix your system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>My words of advice is, don’t wait.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, how do we do that then, Jasmyne? How do we get other counties on the same level as Sonoma County here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>In the state of California themselves will tell you that every county has to own this. Lisa California, for example, it is a government level organization that will aid counties in revamping their system, that will provide, you know, language already pre written and resources already established. But each county needs to be able to own. They don’t want to step on toes is what they told me. It’s a matter of willpower and it’s a matter of resources.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>There is not a one size fits all that will solve the problem for each each county. We did find examples of other counties who are making efforts. They are taking steps at the moment. It’s a it’s a process. It takes time. I even in Sonoma County, it’s taken years. It’s complicated, but it’s also not complicated in a weird way. You know, there are solutions, there are models. Sonoma County is an example.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>It’s doable. It’s doable. What is your biggest takeaway from this story?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>My biggest takeaway really has been how essential language access is. It’s something that, you know, as an English speaker, as a bilingual speaker, but primarily English speaker. I realize the enormous privilege now that I have whenever I receive an alert about, you know, just a traffic jam in San Francisco that I can avoid, other people will probably get stuck up in that jam. Imagine, you know, just kind of the snowball effect there. If you get stuck in that traffic jam, you’re late for work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>And for me, maybe being late for work isn’t so much a significant thing. But for someone else who is an hourly worker, that’s significant. It’s not even just emergencies. Sometimes it’s as simple as just getting through your daily life. Making things more accessible through language, I think is kind of the least we can do in California. You know, the state with the largest immigrant population in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Jasmine, thank you so much for sharing your reporting with us and joining us on the show. I really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>Thank you so much, Ericka. Really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Jasmine Aguilera, a senior reporter for El Timpano. We’ll leave you a link to Jasmine’s full story in El Timpano. In our show notes, this 30 minute conversation with Jasmine was cut down and edited by senior editor Alan Montecillo. Maria Esquinca is our producer, she scored this episode and added all the tape, additional production support from me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>The rest of our podcast squad here at KQED includes Jen Chien, our director of podcasts. Katie Sprenger, our podcast operations Manager. Cesar Saldana, our podcast engagement producer. Maha Sanad, our podcast engagement intern. And Holly Kernan, our Chief Content officer. The Bay is a production of your local public media station KQED in San Francisco. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Thanks for listening. 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El Timpano senior reporter \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.eltimpano.org/author/jasmine-aguilera/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jasmine Aguilera\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> explains why that is, and which counties are succeeding in disseminating critical information to everyone. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC5665754787\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.eltimpano.org/public-safety/alert-this-is-an-emergency-but-for-english-speakers-only/\">ALERT: This is an emergency — but for English speakers only\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11784071/in-latino-heavy-sonoma-a-tiny-radio-station-relays-critical-fire-information-in-indigenous-languages\">The Tiny Radio Station Relaying Critical Kincade Fire Information in Indigenous Languages\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Back in September when wildfire smoke hovered over the Bay Area, emergency alerts started popping up on people’s phones. Air quality reached hazardous levels for those with respiratory diseases, the alerts read. But for the thousands of Bay Area residents who speak a language other than English at home, it would take days for them to receive the same alert in their native language, if at all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>You know, if you’re not hearing that you’re evacuating because it’s misunderstood or they’re telling you the wrong area, you might not get out in time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>According to reporting from El Timpano, more than a quarter of non-English speakers living in the Bay Area don’t have access to emergency alerts in their native language. Today, we’re going to dig into this language gap in local emergency alert systems here in the bay and how one county has been working to change that. Jasmine, I wonder if you can maybe just start by explaining when a disaster strikes, do we have systems set up to let everyone know when stuff hits the fan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>The short answer, unfortunately, is for a lot of people, no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Jasmine Aguilera is a senior reporter for El Timpano.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>For the most part, not everybody will receive timely and accurate information and in their own language or analysis adulting. But I found that of California’s 58 counties, only 21 offer alerts in a language other than English. We’re also giving these counties the benefit of the doubt because a lot of times we cannot actually test whether or not these alerts will send out until we can actually test their systems. So we took a look at the nine Bay Area counties here and determined that 3.2 million people here speak a language other than English at home. And because Alameda County and Solano counties do not offer alerts in a language other than English, we’re talking about at least 27% of the population that doesn’t have access to emergency alerts in their native language.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So those two counties that you mentioned, Alameda and Solano County, are the only counties in the Bay Area who aren’t offering alerts in any language other than English.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>Exactly. And I mean, two out of the nine. You know, that’s not bad. But these are counties with gigantic non-English populations. So it is a significant part of the population.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Jasmine, I wonder if we can step back a little bit and explain for us how these emergency alert systems work exactly and why is this happening? Where is the breakdown?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>So even signing up for alerts we found can be really challenging for non-English speakers. And we cover the Latino and Mayan immigrant communities here in the Bay Area. And we’ve done several surveys that show that often times, especially older immigrants do not have computers at home, do not have Internet at home. They may not even have an email address. And for the vast majority of California counties, you have to opt into the program. You have to actually go to the county website, put in your information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>And oftentimes these websites are asking for first name, last name, email addresses and home addresses. It is pretty obvious that if you’re an undocumented person, older person not familiar with technology, you may feel nervous about, you know, giving the government your personal address or you may not even understand what’s going on on this Web page. Many of the Web pages technically may offer a translated version if you select a widget at the top of the page to change your language preferences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>But if you’re not a tech savvy person, you may not know that at the top of the page where it says language, that means Ijeoma that you can change the language there. We found very few counties where you can text in to opt in, and even those it’s very hit or miss, whether or not even if you’re opting in, in your native language, whether you’ll actually receive ultimately those alerts in your native language.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Do we know anything about why it is an opt in system when any one of us would want to know what’s happening as soon as it happens, if there’s an emergency in our community?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>It sounds like a simple fix would be to create one gigantic system where people can opt in and then those that are at a federal level that exists. But we’re talking about a state that is gigantic, very complicated, very ecologically diverse. Disasters will vary depending on what part of the state you’re in. And so purposefully, the state of California has tried to make sure that each county is empowered to design their own individual opt in programs because they want to make sure that officials can handle whatever disaster is going on on a very localized level. But that means there isn’t one simple solution if you’re trying to make sure that disaster responses can be very, very localized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>And we found that, you know, sometimes there are the best intentions, just a lack of resources or other times they really just isn’t enough willpower to try to, you know, create a system. Maybe the population of non-English speakers is small enough that it’s just not top of mind for people when they’ve got so many other things that are on their plate. And then we found other counties that are in the middle of actually trying as hard as possible to create a robust system. But at least at the time of reporting, we found, you know, the vast majority of California’s programs are not up to the task right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, we’ll talk about one Bay Area county that has put in the work to reach more residents in an emergency. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Your reporting kind of zoomed into one Bay Area county in particular that was really trying to get its act together specifically for the Spanish speaking population. Can you tell me about that and what what your reporting found?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>We didn’t have to look very far. We went over to Sonoma County and saw the steps that they’ve taken. Basically, I mean, officials, they themselves will say it’s because they’ve faced disaster after disaster after disaster essentially since 2017. And they realized since the Tubbs fire of 2017 that their communications were just lacking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>In 2017 when that fire hit. None of this was in place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>We spoke to Alma Bowen, who is the founder and executive director of Nuestra Comunidad, a nonprofit organization that focuses on disaster preparedness and reaching specifically Spanish speaking communities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>And there was no organization. And so there were either duplication of services or there were needs that were not met because we simply didn’t know who could fill those needs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>Ultimately, what they did is they revamped their Sonoma County coed community organizations active in disaster. That’s what the acronym for which was a coalition of nonprofit organizations that are all each doing their own individual work for the community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>As soon as they’re going to activate their EOC or emergency operations center. That call gets put to code. From that moment on, until the emergency sovereign shuts down, one of us is present in that room. The expectation is that the message is go out simultaneously and at least English and Spanish, because those are our highest populations. And then year round, that’s part of the conversations we’re always having with them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>And also giving them a seat at the county government table so that everybody is in communication. Everybody knows what to do whenever a disaster strikes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>And so what’s happened is over time, we have become true partners now with the county.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>And then on top of that, they’ve also created essentially this bank of alerts prepared in advance in English and Spanish at the county level. So we’re talking about thousands of clips of audio in English and Spanish that are localized per Sonoma County zone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>So if there’s, you know, flooding in zone four, you know, they’ve got a clip already prerecorded so that they can just send that out in a push of a button rather than, you know, trying to gather all of the people and find a translator and make sure, you know, that that it’s all recorded before sending. It saves potentially, you know, minutes or hours. It could save lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>You know, if you’re not hearing that, you’re evacuating because it’s misunderstood or they’re telling you the wrong area, you might not get out in time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>There’s still a lot of people who will be left out even now. But, you know, as far as we could see, they are the ones who have really taken on the task and have have tried to do as much as possible since 2017.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m wondering, Jasmine, why you think Sonoma County was able to get its act together in this where I guess address this and why haven’t other counties been able to do that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>Alma Bowen said it best that Sonoma County really had no choice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>Had we not had Kincade Walbridge Glass, you know, all those different fires right out like almost on the heel of each other? I don’t know. It’s like every time a fire hit, it just kept smacking him into reality. You have to do something.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>She also said it’s important for these counties in California to realize that they have time right now. They can right now in this moment, try to revamp their programs, because when a disaster hits, that’s you know, that’s not the moment that you need to be trying to fix your system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alma Bowen: \u003c/strong>My words of advice is, don’t wait.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, how do we do that then, Jasmyne? How do we get other counties on the same level as Sonoma County here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>In the state of California themselves will tell you that every county has to own this. Lisa California, for example, it is a government level organization that will aid counties in revamping their system, that will provide, you know, language already pre written and resources already established. But each county needs to be able to own. They don’t want to step on toes is what they told me. It’s a matter of willpower and it’s a matter of resources.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>There is not a one size fits all that will solve the problem for each each county. We did find examples of other counties who are making efforts. They are taking steps at the moment. It’s a it’s a process. It takes time. I even in Sonoma County, it’s taken years. It’s complicated, but it’s also not complicated in a weird way. You know, there are solutions, there are models. Sonoma County is an example.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>It’s doable. It’s doable. What is your biggest takeaway from this story?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>My biggest takeaway really has been how essential language access is. It’s something that, you know, as an English speaker, as a bilingual speaker, but primarily English speaker. I realize the enormous privilege now that I have whenever I receive an alert about, you know, just a traffic jam in San Francisco that I can avoid, other people will probably get stuck up in that jam. Imagine, you know, just kind of the snowball effect there. If you get stuck in that traffic jam, you’re late for work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>And for me, maybe being late for work isn’t so much a significant thing. But for someone else who is an hourly worker, that’s significant. It’s not even just emergencies. Sometimes it’s as simple as just getting through your daily life. Making things more accessible through language, I think is kind of the least we can do in California. You know, the state with the largest immigrant population in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Jasmine, thank you so much for sharing your reporting with us and joining us on the show. I really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jasmine Aguilera: \u003c/strong>Thank you so much, Ericka. Really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Jasmine Aguilera, a senior reporter for El Timpano. We’ll leave you a link to Jasmine’s full story in El Timpano. In our show notes, this 30 minute conversation with Jasmine was cut down and edited by senior editor Alan Montecillo. Maria Esquinca is our producer, she scored this episode and added all the tape, additional production support from me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>The rest of our podcast squad here at KQED includes Jen Chien, our director of podcasts. Katie Sprenger, our podcast operations Manager. Cesar Saldana, our podcast engagement producer. Maha Sanad, our podcast engagement intern. And Holly Kernan, our Chief Content officer. The Bay is a production of your local public media station KQED in San Francisco. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Thanks for listening. Talk to you next time.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11969882/when-disaster-strikes-in-english-only","authors":["8654","11649","11802"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_20341","news_24504","news_26914","news_4981","news_22598"],"featImg":"news_11969883","label":"source_news_11969882"},"news_11910835":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11910835","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11910835","score":null,"sort":[1649723220000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"pge-reaches-55-million-deal-to-avoid-criminal-prosecution-in-counties-ravaged-by-recent-wildfires","title":"PG&E Reaches $55 Million Deal to Avoid Criminal Charges in Counties Ravaged by Recent Wildfires","publishDate":1649723220,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Pacific Gas & Electric, the nation's largest utility, has agreed to pay more than $55 million to avoid criminal prosecution for two major wildfires sparked by its aging Northern California power lines, and submit to five years of oversight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company didn't acknowledge any wrongdoing in the deals announced Monday with prosecutors in six counties ravaged by \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/business-fires-crime-courts-california-e9bcc9168b7dd3f0094432833e20858a\">last year's Dixie Fire\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-pacific-gas-and-electric-charged-2019-wildfire-77dae62e3429dcbf20513d0af7d4972c\">the 2019 Kincade Fire\u003c/a>. The utility still faces criminal charges for the 2020 Zogg Fire in Shasta County that killed four people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two civil settlements are designed to accelerate payments to hundreds of people whose homes were destroyed so they can start rebuilding more quickly than those who suffered devastating losses in 2017 and 2018 blazes that also were ignited by PG&E's equipment. Those fires prompted the utility to negotiate settlements that included $13.5 billion earmarked for victims — \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-environment-and-nature-business-da3aa5f0c4831a613181bc3821c506a8\">money that still hasn't been completely distributed\u003c/a>.[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Jill Ravitch, Sonoma County district attorney\"]'There are those who will say that PG&E bought its way out of a criminal prosecution. I look at it as doing the best that we could under the circumstances. ... If I had a magic wand and I could wave it, maybe PG&E wouldn't exist anymore.'[/pullquote]The deal also thrusts the utility back into five years of independent oversight, similar to the \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/wildfires-business-fires-crime-california-367cb44acf704920a0c2a72d60890bc5\">criminal probation\u003c/a> it faced after being \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11287618/pge-gets-3m-fine-for-san-bruno-blast-must-advertise-its-conviction-on-tv\">convicted in 2016 of six felony crimes\u003c/a> linked to a 2010 natural gas explosion that blew up a San Bruno neighborhood and killed eight people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sonoma County District Attorney Jill Ravitch said the oversight was the biggest accomplishment to come from the deal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have limited tools and criminal law to deal with corporations, and what we were able to do here was to get a five-year agreement that they will be overseen, that there will be an independent monitor, and that they will have to meet certain benchmarks,\" she said Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All told, PG&E has been blamed for more than 30 wildfires since 2017 that have destroyed more than 23,000 homes and businesses and killed upward of 100 people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/wildfires-business-fires-crime-california-367cb44acf704920a0c2a72d60890bc5\">PG&E's federal probation ended in late January\u003c/a>, prompting concerns from the federal judge who tried to force the utility to reduce fire risks by requiring more maintenance and reporting. U.S. District Judge William Alsup warned that PG&E remained a “continuing menace to California” and urged state prosecutors to try to rein in the company that provides power to 16 million people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a joint statement covering five of the six counties that settled, prosecutors said PG&E will be “essentially on a five-year probation” to be overseen by Filsinger Energy Partners, which already acts as a safety monitor for California power regulators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E will have to underwrite the federal monitor’s costs, up to $15 million annually, in addition to the $55 million in other payments and penalties that the utility expects to incur in the settlements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Like Ronald Reagan said many years ago, trust but verify,” said Butte County DA Mike Ramsey. “This is our verification tool, that independent safety monitor.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As part of the separate million Sonoma County deal, Ravitch agreed to drop the 33 criminal charges she filed last year that accused PG&E of inadvertently injuring six firefighters and endangering public health with smoke and ash from the Kincade Fire that began in October 2019.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fire officials said a PG&E transmission line sparked the fire, which destroyed 374 buildings in wine country and caused nearly 200,000 people to flee, the largest evacuation in the county's history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravitch said state laws that limit punishment against a corporation to probation and fines helped motivate the settlements. She said if PG&E had been successfully prosecuted in the Sonoma County case, it would have paid a fine of just $9.4 million, most of which would have gone to the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, the county will now receive $20.25 million earmarked for nonprofits that help people affected by wildfires and for Santa Rosa Junior College so that it can expand fire safety and vegetation management programs. It also will reimburse the DA's office for the costs of investigating and litigating the case, Ravitch said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are those who will say that PG&E bought its way out of a criminal prosecution,” she said. “I look at it as doing the best that we could under the circumstances. I’m just a prosecutor in Sonoma County. If I had a magic wand and I could wave it, maybe PG&E wouldn’t exist anymore.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prosecutors in the other five counties were exploring criminal charges in last year’s Dixie Fire — the second largest blaze in California’s history — before cutting the deal they said would yield far larger payouts than would a courtroom trial. Because there were no deaths in the Dixie Fire, prosecutors said the utility would have paid a maximum penalty of about $330,000 if it had been found guilty in a criminal case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The settlement for the Dixie Fire was made by district attorneys in Plumas, Lassen, Tehama, Shasta and Butte counties, which will collectively receive nearly $30 million.[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"pacific-gas-and-electric\"]Even when PG&E pleaded \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/bill-johnson-fires-us-news-courts-paradise-67810cb4d9b6b90e451415b76215d6c9\">guilty to 84 felony counts of involuntary manslaughter \u003c/a>for those killed in the 2018 Camp Fire, the company was fined just $3.5 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, PG&E CEO Patti Poppe said the utility welcomed the chance to be more transparent — and ultimately more accountable — for its operations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are committed to doing our part, and we look forward to a long partnership with these communities to make it right and make it safe,” Poppe said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The money that PG&E will pay as part of the settlements will account for just a sliver of its anticipated liabilities in the Kincade, Zogg and Dixie fires. As of Dec. 31, PG&E estimated it likely will be held responsible for at least $2.3 billion in losses stemming from those wildfires. Some of the estimated $1.15 billion in damages caused by the Dixie Fire may be paid by a state-backed insurance fund that California lawmakers created after PG&E filed for bankruptcy in 2019.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year's Dixie Fire burned nearly 1 million acres in Butte, Plumas, Lassen, Shasta and Tehama counties and destroyed more than 1,300 homes and other buildings. The blaze started on July 13, 2021, when a tree hit electrical distribution lines west of a dam in the Sierra Nevada, according to investigators with the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although her office participated in the Dixie Fire settlement, Shasta County District Attorney Stephanie Bridgett said she will continue to pursue a criminal case related to the 2020 Zogg Fire, which killed four people in her county.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED's Alex Emslie contributed reporting to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Under the settlement, made with prosecutors in six counties ravaged by last year's Dixie Fire and the 2019 Kincade Fire, the company didn't acknowledge any wrongdoing and will avoid criminal prosecution. But it must submit to five years of independent oversight in an effort to prevent more deadly blazes.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1649788257,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":1216},"headData":{"title":"PG&E Reaches $55 Million Deal to Avoid Criminal Charges in Counties Ravaged by Recent Wildfires | KQED","description":"Under the settlement, made with prosecutors in six counties ravaged by last year's Dixie Fire and the 2019 Kincade Fire, the company didn't acknowledge any wrongdoing and will avoid criminal prosecution. 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Rodriguez and Mike Liedtke\u003cbr>Associated Press","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","path":"/news/11910835/pge-reaches-55-million-deal-to-avoid-criminal-prosecution-in-counties-ravaged-by-recent-wildfires","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Pacific Gas & Electric, the nation's largest utility, has agreed to pay more than $55 million to avoid criminal prosecution for two major wildfires sparked by its aging Northern California power lines, and submit to five years of oversight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company didn't acknowledge any wrongdoing in the deals announced Monday with prosecutors in six counties ravaged by \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/business-fires-crime-courts-california-e9bcc9168b7dd3f0094432833e20858a\">last year's Dixie Fire\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-pacific-gas-and-electric-charged-2019-wildfire-77dae62e3429dcbf20513d0af7d4972c\">the 2019 Kincade Fire\u003c/a>. The utility still faces criminal charges for the 2020 Zogg Fire in Shasta County that killed four people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two civil settlements are designed to accelerate payments to hundreds of people whose homes were destroyed so they can start rebuilding more quickly than those who suffered devastating losses in 2017 and 2018 blazes that also were ignited by PG&E's equipment. Those fires prompted the utility to negotiate settlements that included $13.5 billion earmarked for victims — \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-environment-and-nature-business-da3aa5f0c4831a613181bc3821c506a8\">money that still hasn't been completely distributed\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'There are those who will say that PG&E bought its way out of a criminal prosecution. I look at it as doing the best that we could under the circumstances. ... If I had a magic wand and I could wave it, maybe PG&E wouldn't exist anymore.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Jill Ravitch, Sonoma County district attorney","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The deal also thrusts the utility back into five years of independent oversight, similar to the \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/wildfires-business-fires-crime-california-367cb44acf704920a0c2a72d60890bc5\">criminal probation\u003c/a> it faced after being \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11287618/pge-gets-3m-fine-for-san-bruno-blast-must-advertise-its-conviction-on-tv\">convicted in 2016 of six felony crimes\u003c/a> linked to a 2010 natural gas explosion that blew up a San Bruno neighborhood and killed eight people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sonoma County District Attorney Jill Ravitch said the oversight was the biggest accomplishment to come from the deal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have limited tools and criminal law to deal with corporations, and what we were able to do here was to get a five-year agreement that they will be overseen, that there will be an independent monitor, and that they will have to meet certain benchmarks,\" she said Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All told, PG&E has been blamed for more than 30 wildfires since 2017 that have destroyed more than 23,000 homes and businesses and killed upward of 100 people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/wildfires-business-fires-crime-california-367cb44acf704920a0c2a72d60890bc5\">PG&E's federal probation ended in late January\u003c/a>, prompting concerns from the federal judge who tried to force the utility to reduce fire risks by requiring more maintenance and reporting. U.S. District Judge William Alsup warned that PG&E remained a “continuing menace to California” and urged state prosecutors to try to rein in the company that provides power to 16 million people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a joint statement covering five of the six counties that settled, prosecutors said PG&E will be “essentially on a five-year probation” to be overseen by Filsinger Energy Partners, which already acts as a safety monitor for California power regulators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E will have to underwrite the federal monitor’s costs, up to $15 million annually, in addition to the $55 million in other payments and penalties that the utility expects to incur in the settlements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Like Ronald Reagan said many years ago, trust but verify,” said Butte County DA Mike Ramsey. “This is our verification tool, that independent safety monitor.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As part of the separate million Sonoma County deal, Ravitch agreed to drop the 33 criminal charges she filed last year that accused PG&E of inadvertently injuring six firefighters and endangering public health with smoke and ash from the Kincade Fire that began in October 2019.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fire officials said a PG&E transmission line sparked the fire, which destroyed 374 buildings in wine country and caused nearly 200,000 people to flee, the largest evacuation in the county's history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravitch said state laws that limit punishment against a corporation to probation and fines helped motivate the settlements. She said if PG&E had been successfully prosecuted in the Sonoma County case, it would have paid a fine of just $9.4 million, most of which would have gone to the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, the county will now receive $20.25 million earmarked for nonprofits that help people affected by wildfires and for Santa Rosa Junior College so that it can expand fire safety and vegetation management programs. It also will reimburse the DA's office for the costs of investigating and litigating the case, Ravitch said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are those who will say that PG&E bought its way out of a criminal prosecution,” she said. “I look at it as doing the best that we could under the circumstances. I’m just a prosecutor in Sonoma County. If I had a magic wand and I could wave it, maybe PG&E wouldn’t exist anymore.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prosecutors in the other five counties were exploring criminal charges in last year’s Dixie Fire — the second largest blaze in California’s history — before cutting the deal they said would yield far larger payouts than would a courtroom trial. Because there were no deaths in the Dixie Fire, prosecutors said the utility would have paid a maximum penalty of about $330,000 if it had been found guilty in a criminal case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The settlement for the Dixie Fire was made by district attorneys in Plumas, Lassen, Tehama, Shasta and Butte counties, which will collectively receive nearly $30 million.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"pacific-gas-and-electric"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Even when PG&E pleaded \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/bill-johnson-fires-us-news-courts-paradise-67810cb4d9b6b90e451415b76215d6c9\">guilty to 84 felony counts of involuntary manslaughter \u003c/a>for those killed in the 2018 Camp Fire, the company was fined just $3.5 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, PG&E CEO Patti Poppe said the utility welcomed the chance to be more transparent — and ultimately more accountable — for its operations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are committed to doing our part, and we look forward to a long partnership with these communities to make it right and make it safe,” Poppe said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The money that PG&E will pay as part of the settlements will account for just a sliver of its anticipated liabilities in the Kincade, Zogg and Dixie fires. As of Dec. 31, PG&E estimated it likely will be held responsible for at least $2.3 billion in losses stemming from those wildfires. Some of the estimated $1.15 billion in damages caused by the Dixie Fire may be paid by a state-backed insurance fund that California lawmakers created after PG&E filed for bankruptcy in 2019.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year's Dixie Fire burned nearly 1 million acres in Butte, Plumas, Lassen, Shasta and Tehama counties and destroyed more than 1,300 homes and other buildings. The blaze started on July 13, 2021, when a tree hit electrical distribution lines west of a dam in the Sierra Nevada, according to investigators with the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although her office participated in the Dixie Fire settlement, Shasta County District Attorney Stephanie Bridgett said she will continue to pursue a criminal case related to the 2020 Zogg Fire, which killed four people in her county.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED's Alex Emslie contributed reporting to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11910835/pge-reaches-55-million-deal-to-avoid-criminal-prosecution-in-counties-ravaged-by-recent-wildfires","authors":["byline_news_11910835"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_20341","news_29684","news_26914","news_25539","news_140"],"featImg":"news_11910864","label":"news"},"news_11900756":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11900756","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11900756","score":null,"sort":[1641343568000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"a-corporate-criminal-consoles-the-judge","title":"A Corporate Criminal Consoles the Judge","publishDate":1641343568,"format":"aside","headTitle":"Mark Fiore: Drawn to the Bay | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":18515,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final.png\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11900768\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final.png\" alt=\"Cartoon: an annoyed judge is overshadowed by a hulking PG&E character who is tangled in power lines and fire debris. The PG&E character says, "don't be so hard on yourself, judge. I've learned a lot about safety..."\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1370\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final.png 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final-800x571.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final-1020x728.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final-160x114.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final-1536x1096.png 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://bit.ly/fiorealsupfailure\">federal judge overseeing PG&E's probation said he was \"a total failure in this job,\"\u003c/a> expressing frustration he hasn't been able to stop the utility from sparking wildfires or getting the company to take responsibility for its behavior.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During a hearing on Monday, as the end of criminal probation for the company approaches, U.S. District Judge William Alsup — never one to beat around the bush in court — didn't hide his exasperation with PG&E.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A PG&E lawyer assured the judge that the utility had in fact learned valuable safety lessons. (Presumably, the lawyer managed to say that with a straight face.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In short, Alsup wants \"criminals like PG&E\" to fess up and take responsibility for what they've done instead of tying themselves in legal knots to protect the beleaguered corporation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I find the judge's straight talk wonderfully refreshing, but am definitely not holding my breath for PG&E and its lawyers to act any differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The federal judge overseeing PG&E's probation said he was \"a total failure in this job,\" expressing frustration he hasn't been able to put a stop to stop the utility from sparking wildfires or getting the company to take responsibility for its behavior.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1641347236,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":8,"wordCount":173},"headData":{"title":"A Corporate Criminal Consoles the Judge | KQED","description":"The federal judge overseeing PG&E's probation said he was "a total failure in this job," expressing frustration he hasn't been able to put a stop to stop the utility from sparking wildfires or getting the company to take responsibility for its behavior.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"A Corporate Criminal Consoles the Judge","datePublished":"2022-01-05T00:46:08.000Z","dateModified":"2022-01-05T01:47:16.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11900756 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11900756","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2022/01/04/a-corporate-criminal-consoles-the-judge/","disqusTitle":"A Corporate Criminal Consoles the Judge","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","path":"/news/11900756/a-corporate-criminal-consoles-the-judge","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final.png\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11900768\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final.png\" alt=\"Cartoon: an annoyed judge is overshadowed by a hulking PG&E character who is tangled in power lines and fire debris. The PG&E character says, "don't be so hard on yourself, judge. I've learned a lot about safety..."\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1370\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final.png 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final-800x571.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final-1020x728.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final-160x114.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/01/judge_010422_final-1536x1096.png 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://bit.ly/fiorealsupfailure\">federal judge overseeing PG&E's probation said he was \"a total failure in this job,\"\u003c/a> expressing frustration he hasn't been able to stop the utility from sparking wildfires or getting the company to take responsibility for its behavior.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During a hearing on Monday, as the end of criminal probation for the company approaches, U.S. District Judge William Alsup — never one to beat around the bush in court — didn't hide his exasperation with PG&E.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A PG&E lawyer assured the judge that the utility had in fact learned valuable safety lessons. (Presumably, the lawyer managed to say that with a straight face.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In short, Alsup wants \"criminals like PG&E\" to fess up and take responsibility for what they've done instead of tying themselves in legal knots to protect the beleaguered corporation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I find the judge's straight talk wonderfully refreshing, but am definitely not holding my breath for PG&E and its lawyers to act any differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11900756/a-corporate-criminal-consoles-the-judge","authors":["3236"],"series":["news_18515"],"categories":["news_19906","news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_26914","news_20949","news_140","news_18235","news_27526","news_24784","news_28652"],"featImg":"news_11900768","label":"news_18515"},"news_11900606":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11900606","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11900606","score":null,"sort":[1641325611000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"frustrated-with-pge-denial-of-wildfire-charges-judge-raises-possibility-of-extending-probation","title":"Frustrated With PG&E Denial of Wildfire Charges, Judge Raises Possibility of Extending Probation","publishDate":1641325611,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>With time running out on PG&E's five-year term of criminal probation in federal court, the judge overseeing the company's sentence says he's willing to consider extending the period of supervision if federal prosecutors ask him to do so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The declaration from U.S. District Judge William Alsup came during a hearing Monday during which a PG&E attorney said the company denied allegations that it violated probation when its equipment ignited the October 2019 Kincade Fire in Sonoma County and the September 2020 Zogg Fire in Shasta and Tehama counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E faces state criminal charges in both fires, including manslaughter for the deaths of four people who died in the Zogg blaze.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"U.S. District Judge William Alsup\"]'One of the things we hope for when we have criminals like PG&E that are on probation is that over the course of time they come to accept responsibility.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One condition of the utility's probation — part of the sentence imposed after a conviction growing out of the 2010 San Bruno gas pipeline disaster — is that it refrain from breaking any local, state or federal law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup expressed frustration that measures he had imposed during the five years of probation, which is due to end at midnight Jan. 25, have failed to end a years-long siege of PG&E-sparked wildfires or, in his view, to get the company to change its behavior.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"One of the things we hope for when we have criminals like PG&E that are on probation is that over the course of time they come to accept responsibility,\" Alsup said, addressing PG&E attorney Reid Schar. \"In five years you've never done that. You've never accepted responsibility for any of these fires until it's convenient or you're up against the wall and have to plead guilty.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge was especially critical of Schar's contention that the company was denying the probation allegations because Shasta County investigators have not provided access to the remains of the tree that touched off the Zogg Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You know good and well you started the fire,\" Alsup said. \"Yet you stand here and come up with good lawyer-like reasons why you can't accept responsibility.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He called the company's position \"a very big disappointment to the court.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Five years of my life, of your life, the public's life and the U.S. attorney's life down the drain because you won't accept responsibility,\" Alsup said. At another point in the hearing, he said he had been \"a total failure in this job ... I would have thought that in five years I could have brought [PG&E] under control, but I have failed.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schar pushed back, saying the company \"fundamentally disagrees\" with Alsup's statements and that it has learned important safety lessons during the probation. He also said it was unfair to ask PG&E to admit to criminal offenses \"without being provided the full evidence.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup told Assistant U.S. Attorney Noah Stern he would leave it up to federal prosecutors on how to proceed. One possibility is that prosecutors could come back to court for an evidentiary hearing that would seek to prove that PG&E violated probation by starting the Sonoma and Shasta County fires.[aside postID=\"news_11891626,news_11890329\" label=\"Related Posts\"]Neither Stern nor PG&E attorney Schar sounded enthusiastic about the prospect of such a hearing, which would come with just half a month to go on the company's probation and only weeks before the scheduled start of a preliminary hearing on Sonoma County's 33-count criminal complaint arising from the Kincade Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another option that Alsup raised is that the U.S. Attorney's Office could make a motion to extend PG&E's probation. The judge has said several times in court and in written orders that he lacked authority to extend the term of court supervision beyond five years — the maximum prescribed in federal law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup has made those statements despite \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21173406/usa-v-pge-us-attorneys-brief-on-extending-probation.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">an April 2019 brief\u003c/a> that prosecutors filed at his request. The filing said \"it appears to be an open question\" whether the court could impose a new term of probation that would stretch beyond five years. PG&E attorneys, whom Alsup also asked to weigh in, \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21173407/usa-v-pge-company-brief-on-extending-probation.pdf\">argued that federal law and court precedents bar the judge\u003c/a> from extending the probation beyond five years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge told Stern on Monday that if prosecutors make a motion to extend probation, he would give it \"serious consideration.\" But he added: \"I'm not saying I'd grant it. I'm just saying I didn't realize it was an open question.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stern said prosecutors will file a status report with the court later this week outlining how they plan to proceed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speaking of the pending criminal cases in Shasta and Sonoma counties, Alsup urged prosecutors and judges in those jurisdictions \"not to give up on probation\" as part of a sentence if PG&E is found guilty or strikes some sort of plea agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"PG&E needs to be under the probation of somebody,\" Alsup said. \"PG&E should face probation, and some judge like me up in Shasta County or Sonoma County will be riding herd on them. That's what needs to happen if we're ever going to get PG&E under control.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge concluded with an appeal to reporters to pay close attention to the criminal proceedings in Sonoma and Shasta counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Here's how this is going to play out,\" Alsup said. \"PG&E will pay millions of dollars to these two counties and walk away as a convicted criminal, but it will not accept probation, and the counties will acquiesce in that. I ask the members of the press to watch that carefully and to hold the DAs accountable to putting this company on continued probation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup also heard briefly from Sonoma County resident Will Abrams, whose home was destroyed in the 2017 Tubbs Fire. Abrams, a party to several California Public Utilities Commission proceedings on PG&E's wildfire safety issues and to the company's bankruptcy case, has urged the judge to impose a series of new probation conditions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among other things, Abrams has asked Alsup to consider ordering major changes to the company's corporate and financial structure and require the company to adopt new safety accountability measures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Monday, Abrams told the judge he should also conduct a hearing to determine whether PG&E should pay restitution to wildfire victims who were part of the $13.5 billion settlement that allowed the company to exit bankruptcy in 2020. Half of that settlement figure is in PG&E stock. Abrams told the judge that restitution is due because fires the company has started since the settlement have depressed the stock's price, diminished the value of the settlement and harmed him and other wildfire victims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Every time they cause a fire, we suffer,\" Abrams said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup agreed with Abrams \"that the victims have gotten a raw deal,\" but added he wasn't involved in the bankruptcy case and has no power to change its settlement terms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He advised Abrams to talk to prosecutors \"and see if you can convince the United States attorney to extend probation. I'm not saying I'd do it or not ... but if the United States attorney doesn't move for it, I'm not going to do it, period.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"With a five-year term of court supervision coming to an end, U.S. District Judge William Alsup says the utility remains 'recalcitrant.' He tells prosecutors he'd consider a longer term of probation for the company if they ask him to do so. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1641344890,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":28,"wordCount":1283},"headData":{"title":"Frustrated With PG&E Denial of Wildfire Charges, Judge Raises Possibility of Extending Probation | KQED","description":"With a five-year term of court supervision coming to an end, U.S. District Judge William Alsup says the utility remains 'recalcitrant.' He tells prosecutors he'd consider a longer term of probation for the company if they ask him to do so. 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You've never accepted responsibility for any of these fires until it's convenient or you're up against the wall and have to plead guilty.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge was especially critical of Schar's contention that the company was denying the probation allegations because Shasta County investigators have not provided access to the remains of the tree that touched off the Zogg Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You know good and well you started the fire,\" Alsup said. \"Yet you stand here and come up with good lawyer-like reasons why you can't accept responsibility.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He called the company's position \"a very big disappointment to the court.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Five years of my life, of your life, the public's life and the U.S. attorney's life down the drain because you won't accept responsibility,\" Alsup said. At another point in the hearing, he said he had been \"a total failure in this job ... I would have thought that in five years I could have brought [PG&E] under control, but I have failed.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schar pushed back, saying the company \"fundamentally disagrees\" with Alsup's statements and that it has learned important safety lessons during the probation. He also said it was unfair to ask PG&E to admit to criminal offenses \"without being provided the full evidence.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup told Assistant U.S. Attorney Noah Stern he would leave it up to federal prosecutors on how to proceed. One possibility is that prosecutors could come back to court for an evidentiary hearing that would seek to prove that PG&E violated probation by starting the Sonoma and Shasta County fires.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11891626,news_11890329","label":"Related Posts "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Neither Stern nor PG&E attorney Schar sounded enthusiastic about the prospect of such a hearing, which would come with just half a month to go on the company's probation and only weeks before the scheduled start of a preliminary hearing on Sonoma County's 33-count criminal complaint arising from the Kincade Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another option that Alsup raised is that the U.S. Attorney's Office could make a motion to extend PG&E's probation. The judge has said several times in court and in written orders that he lacked authority to extend the term of court supervision beyond five years — the maximum prescribed in federal law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup has made those statements despite \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21173406/usa-v-pge-us-attorneys-brief-on-extending-probation.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">an April 2019 brief\u003c/a> that prosecutors filed at his request. The filing said \"it appears to be an open question\" whether the court could impose a new term of probation that would stretch beyond five years. PG&E attorneys, whom Alsup also asked to weigh in, \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21173407/usa-v-pge-company-brief-on-extending-probation.pdf\">argued that federal law and court precedents bar the judge\u003c/a> from extending the probation beyond five years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge told Stern on Monday that if prosecutors make a motion to extend probation, he would give it \"serious consideration.\" But he added: \"I'm not saying I'd grant it. I'm just saying I didn't realize it was an open question.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stern said prosecutors will file a status report with the court later this week outlining how they plan to proceed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speaking of the pending criminal cases in Shasta and Sonoma counties, Alsup urged prosecutors and judges in those jurisdictions \"not to give up on probation\" as part of a sentence if PG&E is found guilty or strikes some sort of plea agreement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"PG&E needs to be under the probation of somebody,\" Alsup said. \"PG&E should face probation, and some judge like me up in Shasta County or Sonoma County will be riding herd on them. That's what needs to happen if we're ever going to get PG&E under control.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge concluded with an appeal to reporters to pay close attention to the criminal proceedings in Sonoma and Shasta counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Here's how this is going to play out,\" Alsup said. \"PG&E will pay millions of dollars to these two counties and walk away as a convicted criminal, but it will not accept probation, and the counties will acquiesce in that. I ask the members of the press to watch that carefully and to hold the DAs accountable to putting this company on continued probation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup also heard briefly from Sonoma County resident Will Abrams, whose home was destroyed in the 2017 Tubbs Fire. Abrams, a party to several California Public Utilities Commission proceedings on PG&E's wildfire safety issues and to the company's bankruptcy case, has urged the judge to impose a series of new probation conditions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among other things, Abrams has asked Alsup to consider ordering major changes to the company's corporate and financial structure and require the company to adopt new safety accountability measures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Monday, Abrams told the judge he should also conduct a hearing to determine whether PG&E should pay restitution to wildfire victims who were part of the $13.5 billion settlement that allowed the company to exit bankruptcy in 2020. Half of that settlement figure is in PG&E stock. Abrams told the judge that restitution is due because fires the company has started since the settlement have depressed the stock's price, diminished the value of the settlement and harmed him and other wildfire victims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Every time they cause a fire, we suffer,\" Abrams said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup agreed with Abrams \"that the victims have gotten a raw deal,\" but added he wasn't involved in the bankruptcy case and has no power to change its settlement terms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He advised Abrams to talk to prosecutors \"and see if you can convince the United States attorney to extend probation. I'm not saying I'd do it or not ... but if the United States attorney doesn't move for it, I'm not going to do it, period.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11900606/frustrated-with-pge-denial-of-wildfire-charges-judge-raises-possibility-of-extending-probation","authors":["222"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_26914","news_140","news_25671","news_30462","news_24784","news_28652"],"featImg":"news_11783668","label":"news"},"news_11868261":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11868261","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11868261","score":null,"sort":[1617754239000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"sonoma-county-files-criminal-charges-against-pge-for-starting-2019-kincade-fire","title":"Sonoma County Files Criminal Charges Against PG&E for Starting 2019 Kincade Fire","publishDate":1617754239,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Sonoma County prosecutors have filed \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20588262/people-v-pge-sonoma-county-criminal-complaint-re-2019-kincade-fire.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a criminal complaint\u003c/a> charging PG&E with five felony and 28 misdemeanor counts in connection with the 2019 Kincade Fire, a blaze that injured six firefighters, incinerated more than 170 homes and forced the evacuation of more than 100,000 people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The complaint filed in Sonoma County Superior Court on Tuesday morning not only accuses the utility of recklessly sparking a fire that caused serious injuries and extensive property damage, but of also unleashing clouds of wildfire smoke that posed a potentially deadly danger to residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, PG&E said it was \"saddened\" by the fire's impact on the community but rejected the idea it had committed any crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782251/kincade-fire-sonoma-county-geyserville-healdsburg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">began\u003c/a> the night of Oct. 23, 2019, as hot, dry, gusty winds swept the mountains in the northeastern corner of Sonoma County. PG&E had initiated a wildfire safety power shutoff in much of the county, but had left a high-voltage transmission line energized in The Geysers geothermal field, northwest of Calistoga.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11829285/pge-was-responsible-for-2019s-kincade-fire-cal-fire-says\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cal Fire announced\u003c/a> last July that its investigation of the fire traced the cause to a PG&E transmission tower in The Geysers. The firefighting agency said an energized cable on the tower had broken free, swung against the tower and caused an arc — a prolonged electrical discharge. Molten metal fell into the surrounding vegetation and, with winds in the area gusting over 80 mph, the resulting blaze began racing toward the towns of Geyserville and Healdsburg.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The wildfire destroyed 174 homes and 200 other structures, burning vineyards and prompting authorities to order 100,000 residents from Geyserville, Windsor and Santa Rosa to leave their homes. Six firefighters were injured as crews struggled to stop the flames from making a catastrophic leap into more densely populated neighborhoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, Sonoma County District Attorney Jill Ravitch said she and others from her office began investigating the scene of the fire start in 2019 \"as soon as it was safe to do so.\" After Cal Fire concluded its probe and turned its findings over to Sonoma County, Ravitch said, the office's investigators interviewed dozens of witnesses, issued search warrants and obtained hundreds of thousands of pages of documents for review.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The day after the fire started, PG&E made a preliminary report, noting that Cal Fire crews had spotted damage on a transmission tower near the fire's suspected point of origin. In the following days, Bill Johnson, PG&E's CEO at the time, said repeatedly that the tower where the problem occurred had been inspected four times in the two years before the fire, and that several maintenance issues found on equipment there had been addressed.[aside label=\"Related Stories\" postID=\"news_11841815,news_11824596,news_11829285\"]Last year, PG&E declined to comment on Cal Fire's investigation, saying it didn't have access to the agency's report or to the evidence it was based on. But in February, the utility acknowledged — apparently \u003ca href=\"https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/wildfire/pge-executive-power-line-sparked-kincade-fire/103-370b4bb8-a518-4725-822a-4103c7429295\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">for the first time\u003c/a> in public — that it had caused the fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We understand at a high level that our equipment was responsible for that fire,\" Aaron Johnson, the company's vice president for wildfire safety, said during a California Public Utilities Commission workshop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, PG&E issued a statement saying it was \"saddened by the property losses and personal impacts\" due to the fire. The utility went on to say it will accept Cal Fire's conclusions about the fire's cause. But it disputed the notion the fire's start involved any criminal wrongdoing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We do not believe there was any crime here,” the company said. “We remain committed to making it right for all those impacted and working to further reduce wildfire risk on our system.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tuesday's criminal complaint is just the latest legal difficulty for a company \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11841815/pge-under-investigation-in-connection-with-deadly-shasta-county-wildfire\">whose aging equipment has been shown to be\u003c/a> the cause of numerous massive fires that have killed more than 110 Californians since 2015.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those wildfire calamities include the North Bay fires of October 2017, in which 22 people died in blazes that Cal Fire found to involve PG&E equipment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E also pleaded guilty to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11824596/pge-pleads-guilty-to-84-deaths-in-wildfire-that-destroyed-paradise\">84 counts of involuntary manslaughter\u003c/a> for the 2018 Camp Fire, which destroyed about 14,000 homes in and around the Butte County town of Paradise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those disasters set the stage for the company's filing for bankruptcy protection in 2019 — a year that passed without anyone dying in a PG&E-related fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But last September, a tree fell on a PG&E power line southwest of Redding, in Shasta County, sparking a fire that killed four residents of a rural community. Cal Fire has turned over results of its investigation into that blaze — \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11852218/how-the-failure-to-remove-a-tree-could-have-sparked-zogg-fire\">the Zogg Fire\u003c/a> — to Shasta County prosecutors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Zogg Fire is also the subject of an ongoing inquiry by U.S. District Judge William Alsup in San Francisco, who oversees PG&E's criminal probation for convictions arising from the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11287618/pge-gets-3m-fine-for-san-bruno-blast-must-advertise-its-conviction-on-tv\">San Bruno natural gas pipeline blast\u003c/a> of September 2010, that killed eight people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup has questioned whether the tree that fell on the power line posed an obvious hazard and should have been removed, and has also raised questions about the competence and effectiveness of PG&E's vegetation management program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge is currently weighing additional conditions of probation against the company, including whether to require it to consider the presence of hazardous trees near power lines when it decides on the scope of future public safety power shutoffs.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The complaint includes five felony counts and 28 misdemeanors on charges ranging from recklessly starting a fire that caused serious injuries to causing a public health threat by subjecting the community to wildfire smoke. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1617814948,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":21,"wordCount":944},"headData":{"title":"Sonoma County Files Criminal Charges Against PG&E for Starting 2019 Kincade Fire | KQED","description":"Complaint includes five felony accounts and 28 misdemeanors on charges ranging from recklessly starting a fire that caused serious injuries to causing a public health threat by subjecting community to wildfire smoke.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Sonoma County Files Criminal Charges Against PG&E for Starting 2019 Kincade Fire","datePublished":"2021-04-07T00:10:39.000Z","dateModified":"2021-04-07T17:02:28.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11868261 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11868261","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2021/04/06/sonoma-county-files-criminal-charges-against-pge-for-starting-2019-kincade-fire/","disqusTitle":"Sonoma County Files Criminal Charges Against PG&E for Starting 2019 Kincade Fire","path":"/news/11868261/sonoma-county-files-criminal-charges-against-pge-for-starting-2019-kincade-fire","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Sonoma County prosecutors have filed \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20588262/people-v-pge-sonoma-county-criminal-complaint-re-2019-kincade-fire.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a criminal complaint\u003c/a> charging PG&E with five felony and 28 misdemeanor counts in connection with the 2019 Kincade Fire, a blaze that injured six firefighters, incinerated more than 170 homes and forced the evacuation of more than 100,000 people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The complaint filed in Sonoma County Superior Court on Tuesday morning not only accuses the utility of recklessly sparking a fire that caused serious injuries and extensive property damage, but of also unleashing clouds of wildfire smoke that posed a potentially deadly danger to residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, PG&E said it was \"saddened\" by the fire's impact on the community but rejected the idea it had committed any crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782251/kincade-fire-sonoma-county-geyserville-healdsburg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">began\u003c/a> the night of Oct. 23, 2019, as hot, dry, gusty winds swept the mountains in the northeastern corner of Sonoma County. PG&E had initiated a wildfire safety power shutoff in much of the county, but had left a high-voltage transmission line energized in The Geysers geothermal field, northwest of Calistoga.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11829285/pge-was-responsible-for-2019s-kincade-fire-cal-fire-says\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cal Fire announced\u003c/a> last July that its investigation of the fire traced the cause to a PG&E transmission tower in The Geysers. The firefighting agency said an energized cable on the tower had broken free, swung against the tower and caused an arc — a prolonged electrical discharge. Molten metal fell into the surrounding vegetation and, with winds in the area gusting over 80 mph, the resulting blaze began racing toward the towns of Geyserville and Healdsburg.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The wildfire destroyed 174 homes and 200 other structures, burning vineyards and prompting authorities to order 100,000 residents from Geyserville, Windsor and Santa Rosa to leave their homes. Six firefighters were injured as crews struggled to stop the flames from making a catastrophic leap into more densely populated neighborhoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, Sonoma County District Attorney Jill Ravitch said she and others from her office began investigating the scene of the fire start in 2019 \"as soon as it was safe to do so.\" After Cal Fire concluded its probe and turned its findings over to Sonoma County, Ravitch said, the office's investigators interviewed dozens of witnesses, issued search warrants and obtained hundreds of thousands of pages of documents for review.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The day after the fire started, PG&E made a preliminary report, noting that Cal Fire crews had spotted damage on a transmission tower near the fire's suspected point of origin. In the following days, Bill Johnson, PG&E's CEO at the time, said repeatedly that the tower where the problem occurred had been inspected four times in the two years before the fire, and that several maintenance issues found on equipment there had been addressed.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","postid":"news_11841815,news_11824596,news_11829285"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Last year, PG&E declined to comment on Cal Fire's investigation, saying it didn't have access to the agency's report or to the evidence it was based on. But in February, the utility acknowledged — apparently \u003ca href=\"https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/wildfire/pge-executive-power-line-sparked-kincade-fire/103-370b4bb8-a518-4725-822a-4103c7429295\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">for the first time\u003c/a> in public — that it had caused the fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We understand at a high level that our equipment was responsible for that fire,\" Aaron Johnson, the company's vice president for wildfire safety, said during a California Public Utilities Commission workshop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, PG&E issued a statement saying it was \"saddened by the property losses and personal impacts\" due to the fire. The utility went on to say it will accept Cal Fire's conclusions about the fire's cause. But it disputed the notion the fire's start involved any criminal wrongdoing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We do not believe there was any crime here,” the company said. “We remain committed to making it right for all those impacted and working to further reduce wildfire risk on our system.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tuesday's criminal complaint is just the latest legal difficulty for a company \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11841815/pge-under-investigation-in-connection-with-deadly-shasta-county-wildfire\">whose aging equipment has been shown to be\u003c/a> the cause of numerous massive fires that have killed more than 110 Californians since 2015.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those wildfire calamities include the North Bay fires of October 2017, in which 22 people died in blazes that Cal Fire found to involve PG&E equipment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E also pleaded guilty to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11824596/pge-pleads-guilty-to-84-deaths-in-wildfire-that-destroyed-paradise\">84 counts of involuntary manslaughter\u003c/a> for the 2018 Camp Fire, which destroyed about 14,000 homes in and around the Butte County town of Paradise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those disasters set the stage for the company's filing for bankruptcy protection in 2019 — a year that passed without anyone dying in a PG&E-related fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But last September, a tree fell on a PG&E power line southwest of Redding, in Shasta County, sparking a fire that killed four residents of a rural community. Cal Fire has turned over results of its investigation into that blaze — \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11852218/how-the-failure-to-remove-a-tree-could-have-sparked-zogg-fire\">the Zogg Fire\u003c/a> — to Shasta County prosecutors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Zogg Fire is also the subject of an ongoing inquiry by U.S. District Judge William Alsup in San Francisco, who oversees PG&E's criminal probation for convictions arising from the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11287618/pge-gets-3m-fine-for-san-bruno-blast-must-advertise-its-conviction-on-tv\">San Bruno natural gas pipeline blast\u003c/a> of September 2010, that killed eight people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup has questioned whether the tree that fell on the power line posed an obvious hazard and should have been removed, and has also raised questions about the competence and effectiveness of PG&E's vegetation management program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge is currently weighing additional conditions of probation against the company, including whether to require it to consider the presence of hazardous trees near power lines when it decides on the scope of future public safety power shutoffs.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11868261/sonoma-county-files-criminal-charges-against-pge-for-starting-2019-kincade-fire","authors":["222"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_26914","news_140","news_26868","news_4981","news_27526"],"featImg":"news_11784837","label":"news"},"news_11829285":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11829285","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11829285","score":null,"sort":[1594945539000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"pge-was-responsible-for-2019s-kincade-fire-cal-fire-says","title":"PG&E Was Responsible for 2019's Kincade Fire, Cal Fire Says","publishDate":1594945539,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>A Pacific Gas & Electric transmission line sparked a wine country wildfire last year that destroyed hundreds of homes and caused nearly 100,000 people to flee, fire officials said Thursday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cal Fire investigators determined that the line northeast of Geyserville was responsible for igniting the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782314/what-you-need-to-know-sonoma-countys-kincade-fire\">Kincade Fire\u003c/a> last October that ripped through a wide swath of Sonoma County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tinder-dry brush and strong winds combined with warm temperatures and low humidity helped the fire to spread at extreme rates, the agency said in a statement. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire started the night of Oct. 23, while winds gusting over 80 mph swept the mountains of northeastern Sonoma County. Cal Fire's initial location for the fire \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782609/map-pge-transmission-lines-near-kincade-fire-ignition-point\">was adjacent to a PG&E transmission line\u003c/a> in The Geysers geothermal power field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E reported the day after the fire started that a 230-kilovolt transmission line near the reported origin point of the flames had suffered an outage at 9:20 p.m., just seven minutes before the blaze began. The utility said Cal Fire personnel had identified a piece of broken equipment on one of the line's towers – a length of cable called a jumper that carries current past insulators – and added that the fire agency was investigating the site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cal Fire did not release details of its investigation but said its report had been sent to the county district attorney's office, which will decide whether to file criminal charges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire burned 374 homes and other buildings and injured four people before it was doused two weeks later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement issued late Thursday, PG&E said it had not yet received Cal Fire's report and that it did not have access to evidence collected by Cal Fire investigators. The utility told regulators last year that its lines were the likely cause of the fire. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We appreciate all the heroic efforts of the first responders who fought the 2019 Kincade Fire, helped local citizens evacuate and made sure no one perished in the fire,\" the PG&E statement said. \"We look forward to reviewing [Cal Fire's report and evidence] at the appropriate time.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E, the nation's largest utility, recently emerged from bankruptcy caused by the financial fallout from its role in several devastating wildfires that destroyed more than 27,000 homes and other buildings in 2017 and 2018. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last month, PG&E took the extraordinary step of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101878152/pge-pleads-guilty-to-84-counts-of-manslaughter-in-camp-fire\">pleading guilty\u003c/a> to 84 felony counts of involuntary manslaughter stemming from the November 2018 Camp Fire, the deadliest and most destructive blaze in modern California history which largely destroyed the Butte County town of Paradise. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A PG&E transmission line \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11747485/cal-fires-official-finding-pge-equipment-touched-off-camp-fire\">was also responsible for igniting the Camp Fire\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='Related Coverage' tag='pge']A scathing grand jury report released after that fire found that PG&E repeatedly ignored warnings about its failing power lines, performed inadequate inspections to focus on profits and refused to learn from past catastrophes. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E was fined $4 million by a Butte County Superior Court Judge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The utility has faced furious criticism from lawmakers and fire victims. It also was blasted for efforts to prevent wildfires last year by turning off power in vast portions of its service territory during high-risk fire weather to avoid winds from knocking down lines or blowing tree branches into them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The planned blackouts affected more than 2 million people at certain times, and the utility bungled them so badly that it had to publicly apologize and give $86 million in customer refunds. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E has said it expects to have to turn off power in parts of its service territory again later this year to reduce wildfire risks during hot, windy weather.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story has been updated to reflect a statement issued by PG&E. This story includes reporting from The Associated Press and KQED's Dan Brekke.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A PG&E transmission line caused a wine country wildfire last fall that destroyed hundreds of homes and caused nearly 100,000 people to flee, fire officials said Thursday.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1595002642,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":20,"wordCount":659},"headData":{"title":"PG&E Was Responsible for 2019's Kincade Fire, Cal Fire Says | KQED","description":"A PG&E transmission line caused a wine country wildfire last fall that destroyed hundreds of homes and caused nearly 100,000 people to flee, fire officials said Thursday.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"PG&E Was Responsible for 2019's Kincade Fire, Cal Fire Says","datePublished":"2020-07-17T00:25:39.000Z","dateModified":"2020-07-17T16:17:22.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11829285 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11829285","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/07/16/pge-was-responsible-for-2019s-kincade-fire-cal-fire-says/","disqusTitle":"PG&E Was Responsible for 2019's Kincade Fire, Cal Fire Says","path":"/news/11829285/pge-was-responsible-for-2019s-kincade-fire-cal-fire-says","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A Pacific Gas & Electric transmission line sparked a wine country wildfire last year that destroyed hundreds of homes and caused nearly 100,000 people to flee, fire officials said Thursday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cal Fire investigators determined that the line northeast of Geyserville was responsible for igniting the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782314/what-you-need-to-know-sonoma-countys-kincade-fire\">Kincade Fire\u003c/a> last October that ripped through a wide swath of Sonoma County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tinder-dry brush and strong winds combined with warm temperatures and low humidity helped the fire to spread at extreme rates, the agency said in a statement. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire started the night of Oct. 23, while winds gusting over 80 mph swept the mountains of northeastern Sonoma County. Cal Fire's initial location for the fire \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782609/map-pge-transmission-lines-near-kincade-fire-ignition-point\">was adjacent to a PG&E transmission line\u003c/a> in The Geysers geothermal power field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E reported the day after the fire started that a 230-kilovolt transmission line near the reported origin point of the flames had suffered an outage at 9:20 p.m., just seven minutes before the blaze began. The utility said Cal Fire personnel had identified a piece of broken equipment on one of the line's towers – a length of cable called a jumper that carries current past insulators – and added that the fire agency was investigating the site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cal Fire did not release details of its investigation but said its report had been sent to the county district attorney's office, which will decide whether to file criminal charges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire burned 374 homes and other buildings and injured four people before it was doused two weeks later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement issued late Thursday, PG&E said it had not yet received Cal Fire's report and that it did not have access to evidence collected by Cal Fire investigators. The utility told regulators last year that its lines were the likely cause of the fire. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We appreciate all the heroic efforts of the first responders who fought the 2019 Kincade Fire, helped local citizens evacuate and made sure no one perished in the fire,\" the PG&E statement said. \"We look forward to reviewing [Cal Fire's report and evidence] at the appropriate time.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E, the nation's largest utility, recently emerged from bankruptcy caused by the financial fallout from its role in several devastating wildfires that destroyed more than 27,000 homes and other buildings in 2017 and 2018. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last month, PG&E took the extraordinary step of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101878152/pge-pleads-guilty-to-84-counts-of-manslaughter-in-camp-fire\">pleading guilty\u003c/a> to 84 felony counts of involuntary manslaughter stemming from the November 2018 Camp Fire, the deadliest and most destructive blaze in modern California history which largely destroyed the Butte County town of Paradise. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A PG&E transmission line \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11747485/cal-fires-official-finding-pge-equipment-touched-off-camp-fire\">was also responsible for igniting the Camp Fire\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Coverage ","tag":"pge"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>A scathing grand jury report released after that fire found that PG&E repeatedly ignored warnings about its failing power lines, performed inadequate inspections to focus on profits and refused to learn from past catastrophes. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E was fined $4 million by a Butte County Superior Court Judge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The utility has faced furious criticism from lawmakers and fire victims. It also was blasted for efforts to prevent wildfires last year by turning off power in vast portions of its service territory during high-risk fire weather to avoid winds from knocking down lines or blowing tree branches into them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The planned blackouts affected more than 2 million people at certain times, and the utility bungled them so badly that it had to publicly apologize and give $86 million in customer refunds. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E has said it expects to have to turn off power in parts of its service territory again later this year to reduce wildfire risks during hot, windy weather.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story has been updated to reflect a statement issued by PG&E. This story includes reporting from The Associated Press and KQED's Dan Brekke.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11829285/pge-was-responsible-for-2019s-kincade-fire-cal-fire-says","authors":["237"],"categories":["news_19906","news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_6383","news_26914","news_140","news_4463"],"featImg":"news_11783768","label":"news"},"news_11815296":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11815296","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11815296","score":null,"sort":[1588253479000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"pge-cheated-on-maintenance-judge-says-then-orders-new-probation-conditions","title":"PG&E 'Cheated on Maintenance,' Judge Says — Then Orders New Probation Conditions","publishDate":1588253479,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>A federal judge in San Francisco who has spent the last 17 months trying to force PG&E to improve its safety practices in the wake of a string of deadly wildfires is now ordering the company to take a series of steps designed to head off future disasters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6880045/Alsup-Pge-200429.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">an order\u003c/a> that included a withering critique of the company's safety performance, U.S. District Judge William Alsup told the utility it must now undertake dramatically expanded inspections of both its lower-voltage distribution lines and its network of high-voltage transmission lines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11802477,news_11796515,news_11767619\" label=\"PG&E on Probation\"]\u003cbr>\nAlsup oversees PG&E's criminal probation for federal pipeline safety violations arising from the 2010 San Bruno disaster. His order added the new inspection requirements to the company's other conditions of probation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge began his 13-page directive by remarking that \"the single largest privately-owned utility in America ... cannot safely deliver power to California.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This failure is upon us because for years, in order to enlarge dividends, bonuses, and political contributions, PG&E cheated on maintenance of its grid, to the point that the grid became unsafe to operate during our annual high winds, so unsafe that the grid itself failed and ignited many catastrophic wildfires,\" Alsup wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both PG&E distribution and transmission lines were involved in sparking catastrophic fires in 2017 and 2018.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cal Fire cited distribution lines that came into contact with trees as the source of many of the October 2017 fires that swept much of Northern California, including large swaths of Sonoma, Napa, Lake and Mendocino counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The November 2018 Camp Fire, which killed 85 people and destroyed nearly 14,000 homes in and around the Butte County town of Paradise, started when a badly worn piece of hardware on a high-voltage transmission tower failed, allowing a charged line to swing free and arc during a period of high winds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup's order faults PG&E for failing to adequately oversee the work of contractors hired to clear vegetation from along the company's distribution lines. Under \u003ca href=\"https://www.pge.com/en_US/safety/yard-safety/powerlines-and-trees/laws-and-regulations.page\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">California law\u003c/a>, utilities are required to allow a minimum of 4 feet of clearance between the lines and surrounding vegetation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year, Alsup directed the court monitor assigned to work with PG&E during its probation to devise a system to spot check the utility's vegetation management work — an effort that was significantly expanded as part of PG&E's state-mandated \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11751074/regulators-ok-pges-big-wildfire-safety-program-and-set-new-rules-for-protective-power-shutoffs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">wildfire mitigation plan\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup noted that the court-appointed monitor found PG&E's 2019 \"enhanced\" vegetation management campaign to be \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11767619/monitors-spot-check-of-pge-wildfire-safety-effort-finds-missed-trees-recordkeeping-errors\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">riddled with errors\u003c/a>. Contract inspectors had overlooked more than 3,000 trees that needed work or should have been considered for removal. In a handful of cases, the monitor's report said, it uncovered issues with trees \"that could have resulted in fatalities, injuries or serious damage.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Thanks to the monitor’s spot checks, PG&E went out and fixed all these urgent problems,\" Alsup wrote. \"The point, however, is that PG&E’s outsourcing scheme remains sloppy and unreliable.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To fix that, the judge directed the company to hire new teams of inspectors, with one group assigned to identify all trees that need work and the second to conduct spot checks to ensure the needed work has actually been performed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Judge William Alsup\"]\"It is hard to get a straight answer from PG&E. The offender is masterful at falling back on the inspection reports and saying, 'See, Judge, we had that very line inspected and all was well.' \"[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup was also severely critical of PG&E in his assessment of the company's past transmission line maintenance and inspections. He recounted the company's failure to detect the damaged transmission tower hardware that led to the Camp Fire and several other instances in which inspectors didn't see or neglected to take note of equipment that was later found to be badly worn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge expressed frustration that PG&E reported three separate inspections of a Sonoma County transmission tower where a cable broke during a windstorm last October and apparently started the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782314/what-you-need-to-know-sonoma-countys-kincade-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kincade Fire\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Like a broken record, PG&E routinely excuses itself by insisting that all towers had been inspected and any noted faults were addressed, at least according to its paperwork,\" Alsup wrote. \"But these transmission tower inspections failed to spot dangerous conditions. Was this because the inspections were poorly designed or was it because they were poorly executed? Had someone falsified inspection reports? It is hard to get a straight answer from PG&E. The offender is masterful at falling back on the inspection reports and saying, 'See, Judge, we had that very line inspected and all was well,' or, 'We fixed whatever they found wrong. We did our part.' The reports, however, are a mere courtroom prop.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To deal with those shortcomings and hold both individual inspectors and the company responsible for their findings, Alsup ordered three new conditions of probation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E has to catalog the age and condition of every piece of hardware on every transmission tower and line in its system. The company must also devise a new system to assess the condition of towers, lines and associated equipment and will be required to take a video of every inspection. Finally, contract inspectors will be required to carry enough insurance \"to cover losses suffered by the public should their inspections be deficient and thereby start a wildfire.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup gave PG&E until May 28 to present a plan to hire new vegetation management inspectors and a blueprint for the new transmission inspection protocols.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E is aware of the court's order and is currently reviewing it, according to James Noonan, a spokesman for the utility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We share the court's focus on safety and recognize that we must take a leading role in working to prevent catastrophic wildfires. We remain focused on preparing for the wildfire season ahead, while continuing to deliver safe, clean and reliable energy to our customers,\" Noonan said in an emailed statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge's order included a strong endorsement for public safety power shutoffs — preemptive blackouts that left millions of people in PG&E's service area in the dark during prolonged periods of high winds and low humidity. Alsup remarked that the utility's post-shutoff inspections disclosed hundreds of locations where limbs and trees fell onto de-energized power lines and likely would have sparked wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Those fallen limbs and trees remain proof positive that the PSPS program saved lives and homes,\" Alsup wrote. \"Shutting off the power in those lines in advance of the windstorms was essential to public safety, and PG&E did so. For this PG&E deserves credit. But at the same time, those hundreds of fallen limbs and trees also remain proof positive of how unsafe PG&E had allowed its maintenance backlog to become.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Federal Judge William Alsup says company has failed to keep lines safe and orders it to implement tough new inspection standards. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1588276946,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":1191},"headData":{"title":"PG&E 'Cheated on Maintenance,' Judge Says — Then Orders New Probation Conditions | KQED","description":"Federal Judge William Alsup says company has failed to keep lines safe and orders it to implement tough new inspection standards. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"PG&E 'Cheated on Maintenance,' Judge Says — Then Orders New Probation Conditions","datePublished":"2020-04-30T13:31:19.000Z","dateModified":"2020-04-30T20:02:26.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11815296 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11815296","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2020/04/30/pge-cheated-on-maintenance-judge-says-then-orders-new-probation-conditions/","disqusTitle":"PG&E 'Cheated on Maintenance,' Judge Says — Then Orders New Probation Conditions","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/2f1b3211-6de8-463a-a713-abad010e95e7/audio.mp3","path":"/news/11815296/pge-cheated-on-maintenance-judge-says-then-orders-new-probation-conditions","audioDuration":54000,"audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A federal judge in San Francisco who has spent the last 17 months trying to force PG&E to improve its safety practices in the wake of a string of deadly wildfires is now ordering the company to take a series of steps designed to head off future disasters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6880045/Alsup-Pge-200429.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">an order\u003c/a> that included a withering critique of the company's safety performance, U.S. District Judge William Alsup told the utility it must now undertake dramatically expanded inspections of both its lower-voltage distribution lines and its network of high-voltage transmission lines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11802477,news_11796515,news_11767619","label":"PG&E on Probation "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cbr>\nAlsup oversees PG&E's criminal probation for federal pipeline safety violations arising from the 2010 San Bruno disaster. His order added the new inspection requirements to the company's other conditions of probation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge began his 13-page directive by remarking that \"the single largest privately-owned utility in America ... cannot safely deliver power to California.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This failure is upon us because for years, in order to enlarge dividends, bonuses, and political contributions, PG&E cheated on maintenance of its grid, to the point that the grid became unsafe to operate during our annual high winds, so unsafe that the grid itself failed and ignited many catastrophic wildfires,\" Alsup wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both PG&E distribution and transmission lines were involved in sparking catastrophic fires in 2017 and 2018.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cal Fire cited distribution lines that came into contact with trees as the source of many of the October 2017 fires that swept much of Northern California, including large swaths of Sonoma, Napa, Lake and Mendocino counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The November 2018 Camp Fire, which killed 85 people and destroyed nearly 14,000 homes in and around the Butte County town of Paradise, started when a badly worn piece of hardware on a high-voltage transmission tower failed, allowing a charged line to swing free and arc during a period of high winds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup's order faults PG&E for failing to adequately oversee the work of contractors hired to clear vegetation from along the company's distribution lines. Under \u003ca href=\"https://www.pge.com/en_US/safety/yard-safety/powerlines-and-trees/laws-and-regulations.page\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">California law\u003c/a>, utilities are required to allow a minimum of 4 feet of clearance between the lines and surrounding vegetation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year, Alsup directed the court monitor assigned to work with PG&E during its probation to devise a system to spot check the utility's vegetation management work — an effort that was significantly expanded as part of PG&E's state-mandated \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11751074/regulators-ok-pges-big-wildfire-safety-program-and-set-new-rules-for-protective-power-shutoffs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">wildfire mitigation plan\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup noted that the court-appointed monitor found PG&E's 2019 \"enhanced\" vegetation management campaign to be \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11767619/monitors-spot-check-of-pge-wildfire-safety-effort-finds-missed-trees-recordkeeping-errors\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">riddled with errors\u003c/a>. Contract inspectors had overlooked more than 3,000 trees that needed work or should have been considered for removal. In a handful of cases, the monitor's report said, it uncovered issues with trees \"that could have resulted in fatalities, injuries or serious damage.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Thanks to the monitor’s spot checks, PG&E went out and fixed all these urgent problems,\" Alsup wrote. \"The point, however, is that PG&E’s outsourcing scheme remains sloppy and unreliable.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To fix that, the judge directed the company to hire new teams of inspectors, with one group assigned to identify all trees that need work and the second to conduct spot checks to ensure the needed work has actually been performed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"\"It is hard to get a straight answer from PG&E. The offender is masterful at falling back on the inspection reports and saying, 'See, Judge, we had that very line inspected and all was well.' \"","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Judge William Alsup","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup was also severely critical of PG&E in his assessment of the company's past transmission line maintenance and inspections. He recounted the company's failure to detect the damaged transmission tower hardware that led to the Camp Fire and several other instances in which inspectors didn't see or neglected to take note of equipment that was later found to be badly worn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge expressed frustration that PG&E reported three separate inspections of a Sonoma County transmission tower where a cable broke during a windstorm last October and apparently started the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782314/what-you-need-to-know-sonoma-countys-kincade-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kincade Fire\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Like a broken record, PG&E routinely excuses itself by insisting that all towers had been inspected and any noted faults were addressed, at least according to its paperwork,\" Alsup wrote. \"But these transmission tower inspections failed to spot dangerous conditions. Was this because the inspections were poorly designed or was it because they were poorly executed? Had someone falsified inspection reports? It is hard to get a straight answer from PG&E. The offender is masterful at falling back on the inspection reports and saying, 'See, Judge, we had that very line inspected and all was well,' or, 'We fixed whatever they found wrong. We did our part.' The reports, however, are a mere courtroom prop.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To deal with those shortcomings and hold both individual inspectors and the company responsible for their findings, Alsup ordered three new conditions of probation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E has to catalog the age and condition of every piece of hardware on every transmission tower and line in its system. The company must also devise a new system to assess the condition of towers, lines and associated equipment and will be required to take a video of every inspection. Finally, contract inspectors will be required to carry enough insurance \"to cover losses suffered by the public should their inspections be deficient and thereby start a wildfire.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alsup gave PG&E until May 28 to present a plan to hire new vegetation management inspectors and a blueprint for the new transmission inspection protocols.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E is aware of the court's order and is currently reviewing it, according to James Noonan, a spokesman for the utility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We share the court's focus on safety and recognize that we must take a leading role in working to prevent catastrophic wildfires. We remain focused on preparing for the wildfire season ahead, while continuing to deliver safe, clean and reliable energy to our customers,\" Noonan said in an emailed statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge's order included a strong endorsement for public safety power shutoffs — preemptive blackouts that left millions of people in PG&E's service area in the dark during prolonged periods of high winds and low humidity. Alsup remarked that the utility's post-shutoff inspections disclosed hundreds of locations where limbs and trees fell onto de-energized power lines and likely would have sparked wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Those fallen limbs and trees remain proof positive that the PSPS program saved lives and homes,\" Alsup wrote. \"Shutting off the power in those lines in advance of the windstorms was essential to public safety, and PG&E did so. For this PG&E deserves credit. But at the same time, those hundreds of fallen limbs and trees also remain proof positive of how unsafe PG&E had allowed its maintenance backlog to become.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11815296/pge-cheated-on-maintenance-judge-says-then-orders-new-probation-conditions","authors":["222"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_24483","news_26914","news_140","news_4463","news_24784"],"featImg":"news_11815297","label":"news_72"},"news_11792863":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11792863","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11792863","score":null,"sort":[1577216560000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"wildfires-cause-turmoil-in-california-property-insurance-market","title":"Wildfires Cause Turmoil in California Property Insurance Market","publishDate":1577216560,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Kent Michitsch seemed to be running out of traditional options to insure the home he's lived in for more than 30 years northeast of San Diego as California's massive property insurance market reels from three consecutive years of destructive wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Michitsch, 57, has received three non-renewal notices in three years and says he feared getting a fourth one when his homeowners' policy comes up for renewal the middle of next year if it wasn't for California lawmaker's \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11789809/state-bans-insurers-from-dropping-homeowner-policies-in-areas-hit-by-wildfires\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">recent intervention\u003c/a> in the market.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's constant worry and frustration. You know you're covered now, but I might have to look for a new policy next year yet again.\" Michitsch says he's never made a claim on his insurance and never had fire damage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thousands of homeowners like Michitsch have lost their insurance policies in the last few years as insurers pull out of areas that are at risk of fire damage or stop insuring homes altogether. They've been forced to scramble to find coverage from regular insurance providers or to turn as a last resort to a government sanctioned plan that at the moment only provides fire coverage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size='medium' align='right' citation='Kent Michitsch']'It's constant worry and frustration. You know you're covered now, but I might have to look for a new policy next year yet again.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Farm, the largest in the state, and Allstate and other insurers declined to renew roughly 350,000 policies in areas at high risk for wildfires since 2015 the California Department of Insurance said back in August, and the department has gotten \"record numbers\" of requests this year from insurers to increase the rates they charge property owners. The data also shows 33,000 policies were not renewed by insurers in zip codes affected by the major wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the insurance industry says the California property insurance market is resilient, state lawmakers and officials have had to scramble to keep the market from grinding to a halt from the unexpected additional risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California legislature passed a law earlier this year giving the Department of Insurance emergency powers to keep policies in effect for those in fire-prone areas. This month California Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara put a one-year moratorium on non-renewals, in hopes that lawmakers, insurance companies and other stakeholders can reach a more substantial solution for the roughly 1 million homeowners in zip codes adjacent to previous wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside tag='wildfires' label='More Coverage.']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This wildfire insurance crisis has been years in the making, but it is an emergency we must deal with now if we are going to keep the California dream of home ownership from becoming the California nightmare, as an increasing number of homeowners struggle to find coverage,\" Lara said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fires of 2017 and 2018 caused a combined $25.3 billion in damages according to the California Department of Insurance. That's exponentially higher than the previous wildfires in 2015 and 2008, which caused $1.1 billion and $719 million in damages, respectively.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The insurance industry has yet to release an estimate of damages from this year's wildfire season, but the costs are expected to be high. The most significant wildfire this year was the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/kincade-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kincade fire\u003c/a>, which is started October 23 and has burned 78,000 acres in Sonoma county. It destroyed 374 buildings and damaged another 60, according to the California Department of Forestry & Fire Protection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The wildfires in California will likely make it more difficult for California homeowners to buy insurance,\" Stu Ryland, senior vice president of the Pacific Region at Sedgwick, an insurance claims management company. \"Premiums are likely to go up, particularly in areas that are prone to wildfires and in some cases, it may be difficult for consumers to find an insurer willing to write their insurance.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While some insurers are pulling out and others are reconsidering how they price property insurance, it is still available in one form or another to every homeowner, according to the Insurance Information Institute.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, those not insurable by regular insurance providers are having to turn to what's known as the California FAIR Plan, which is a government-sanctioned association of insurers who pool together to cover the highest risk properties. FAIR Plan insurance currently only covers $1.5 million in damages, although Lara has ordered that starting in April 2020 it will cover $3 million in damages. Currently the FAIR Plan only covers fire, not other forms of risk, but California regulators have announced that FAIR Plan insurers can start doing comprehensive coverage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier this month, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.cfpnet.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">California FAIR Plan Association\u003c/a> sued to block those changes, arguing Lara's order is illegal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Karl Susman, owner of Susman Insurance Agency in Los Angeles, says the average annual premium on a homeowner policy plus FAIR to cover fire now costs around $2,500 a year, which is three times higher than it was three years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These wildfires are not sustainable for these companies. They aren't going to go bankrupt but they are just going to stop writing policies.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size='medium' align='right' citation='Karl Susman']'I haven't seen anything like this in the 28 years I've been doing this.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Susman said he worries that without a longer-term solution the California insurance market will repeat the experience after the 1994 California Northridge earthquake, which caused many insurance carriers to stop offering earthquake insurance. He's already seen insurance companies limiting their risk to certain zip codes as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I haven't seen anything like this in the 28 years I've been doing this,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fortunately, those who still do have insurance have been able to start rebuilding their lives after the fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maggie and Dan London of Santa Rosa lost their home in the massive and fatal \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/tubbs-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tubbs fire of 2017\u003c/a>. They worked quickly after the fire, filing a claim and reaching out to their contractor that same day. But it took them two years to rebuild and move back in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like many who tried to rebuild after the fire, they ran into obstacles — higher costs for labor and materials and ongoing talks with their insurer. All the same, Dan London feels his insurance company has done a fair job. And while they bought their home in 1979, he has not seen a sharp jump in insurance costs over time. The cost to insure their new home is slightly more, but Dan felt it reflects the increased value of the property.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was expecting something triple, but it's not at all,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"While the industry says the California property insurance market is resilient, state lawmakers and officials have had to scramble to keep the market from grinding to a halt due to fire risk.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1577216560,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":27,"wordCount":1112},"headData":{"title":"Wildfires Cause Turmoil in California Property Insurance Market | KQED","description":"While the industry says the California property insurance market is resilient, state lawmakers and officials have had to scramble to keep the market from grinding to a halt due to fire risk.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Wildfires Cause Turmoil in California Property Insurance Market","datePublished":"2019-12-24T19:42:40.000Z","dateModified":"2019-12-24T19:42:40.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11792863 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11792863","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/12/24/wildfires-cause-turmoil-in-california-property-insurance-market/","disqusTitle":"Wildfires Cause Turmoil in California Property Insurance Market","source":"Associated Press","sourceUrl":"https://apnews.com","nprByline":"\u003cstrong>Ken Sweet and Sarah Skidmore Sell\u003cbr />Associated Press\u003c/strong>","path":"/news/11792863/wildfires-cause-turmoil-in-california-property-insurance-market","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Kent Michitsch seemed to be running out of traditional options to insure the home he's lived in for more than 30 years northeast of San Diego as California's massive property insurance market reels from three consecutive years of destructive wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Michitsch, 57, has received three non-renewal notices in three years and says he feared getting a fourth one when his homeowners' policy comes up for renewal the middle of next year if it wasn't for California lawmaker's \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11789809/state-bans-insurers-from-dropping-homeowner-policies-in-areas-hit-by-wildfires\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">recent intervention\u003c/a> in the market.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's constant worry and frustration. You know you're covered now, but I might have to look for a new policy next year yet again.\" Michitsch says he's never made a claim on his insurance and never had fire damage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thousands of homeowners like Michitsch have lost their insurance policies in the last few years as insurers pull out of areas that are at risk of fire damage or stop insuring homes altogether. They've been forced to scramble to find coverage from regular insurance providers or to turn as a last resort to a government sanctioned plan that at the moment only provides fire coverage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'It's constant worry and frustration. You know you're covered now, but I might have to look for a new policy next year yet again.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Kent Michitsch","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Farm, the largest in the state, and Allstate and other insurers declined to renew roughly 350,000 policies in areas at high risk for wildfires since 2015 the California Department of Insurance said back in August, and the department has gotten \"record numbers\" of requests this year from insurers to increase the rates they charge property owners. The data also shows 33,000 policies were not renewed by insurers in zip codes affected by the major wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the insurance industry says the California property insurance market is resilient, state lawmakers and officials have had to scramble to keep the market from grinding to a halt from the unexpected additional risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California legislature passed a law earlier this year giving the Department of Insurance emergency powers to keep policies in effect for those in fire-prone areas. This month California Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara put a one-year moratorium on non-renewals, in hopes that lawmakers, insurance companies and other stakeholders can reach a more substantial solution for the roughly 1 million homeowners in zip codes adjacent to previous wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"wildfires","label":"More Coverage. "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This wildfire insurance crisis has been years in the making, but it is an emergency we must deal with now if we are going to keep the California dream of home ownership from becoming the California nightmare, as an increasing number of homeowners struggle to find coverage,\" Lara said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fires of 2017 and 2018 caused a combined $25.3 billion in damages according to the California Department of Insurance. That's exponentially higher than the previous wildfires in 2015 and 2008, which caused $1.1 billion and $719 million in damages, respectively.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The insurance industry has yet to release an estimate of damages from this year's wildfire season, but the costs are expected to be high. The most significant wildfire this year was the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/kincade-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kincade fire\u003c/a>, which is started October 23 and has burned 78,000 acres in Sonoma county. It destroyed 374 buildings and damaged another 60, according to the California Department of Forestry & Fire Protection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The wildfires in California will likely make it more difficult for California homeowners to buy insurance,\" Stu Ryland, senior vice president of the Pacific Region at Sedgwick, an insurance claims management company. \"Premiums are likely to go up, particularly in areas that are prone to wildfires and in some cases, it may be difficult for consumers to find an insurer willing to write their insurance.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While some insurers are pulling out and others are reconsidering how they price property insurance, it is still available in one form or another to every homeowner, according to the Insurance Information Institute.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, those not insurable by regular insurance providers are having to turn to what's known as the California FAIR Plan, which is a government-sanctioned association of insurers who pool together to cover the highest risk properties. FAIR Plan insurance currently only covers $1.5 million in damages, although Lara has ordered that starting in April 2020 it will cover $3 million in damages. Currently the FAIR Plan only covers fire, not other forms of risk, but California regulators have announced that FAIR Plan insurers can start doing comprehensive coverage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier this month, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.cfpnet.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">California FAIR Plan Association\u003c/a> sued to block those changes, arguing Lara's order is illegal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Karl Susman, owner of Susman Insurance Agency in Los Angeles, says the average annual premium on a homeowner policy plus FAIR to cover fire now costs around $2,500 a year, which is three times higher than it was three years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These wildfires are not sustainable for these companies. They aren't going to go bankrupt but they are just going to stop writing policies.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'I haven't seen anything like this in the 28 years I've been doing this.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Karl Susman","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Susman said he worries that without a longer-term solution the California insurance market will repeat the experience after the 1994 California Northridge earthquake, which caused many insurance carriers to stop offering earthquake insurance. He's already seen insurance companies limiting their risk to certain zip codes as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I haven't seen anything like this in the 28 years I've been doing this,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fortunately, those who still do have insurance have been able to start rebuilding their lives after the fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maggie and Dan London of Santa Rosa lost their home in the massive and fatal \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/tubbs-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tubbs fire of 2017\u003c/a>. They worked quickly after the fire, filing a claim and reaching out to their contractor that same day. But it took them two years to rebuild and move back in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like many who tried to rebuild after the fire, they ran into obstacles — higher costs for labor and materials and ongoing talks with their insurer. All the same, Dan London feels his insurance company has done a fair job. And while they bought their home in 1979, he has not seen a sharp jump in insurance costs over time. The cost to insure their new home is slightly more, but Dan felt it reflects the increased value of the property.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was expecting something triple, but it's not at all,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11792863/wildfires-cause-turmoil-in-california-property-insurance-market","authors":["byline_news_11792863"],"categories":["news_19906","news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_24483","news_787","news_18159","news_26914","news_22316","news_26963","news_4463"],"featImg":"news_11792866","label":"source_news_11792863"},"news_11788316":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11788316","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11788316","score":null,"sort":[1574550413000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"survivors-fear-smaller-payouts-from-pge-with-each-fire","title":"Survivors Fear Smaller Payouts From PG&E With Each Fire","publishDate":1574550413,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Lori Kennedy thought she was going to live a comfortable retirement in a modest home in wooded Magalia, California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But she woke up a year ago to a phone call and hurried evacuation orders, and in a matter of hours nearly every trace of her life was incinerated: the Christmas ornaments her children made when they were little, the sculptures and artwork she spent her career creating, the home where she hosted family gatherings for more than two decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's not just that you've lost things,\" Kennedy said. \"You've lost validation of your existence for all those years. You can replace furniture. But you can't replace baby books, wedding albums.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[aside tag='camp-fire' label='More Coverage.']\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kennedy is one of thousands of survivors of the Camp Fire, the deadliest wildfire in California history, which was sparked by Pacific Gas & Electric equipment in November 2018 and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11710884/list-of-those-who-died-in-butte-county-paradise-camp-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">killed 85 people\u003c/a> and nearly incinerated the town of Paradise. More than 70,000 people have filed claims against the utility over various wildfires in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorneys believe as many as 100,000 people are eligible to receive payments for damages they suffered during the devastating wildfires of recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But wildfire victims of previous years must wait for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/pge\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">PG&E to exit bankruptcy\u003c/a> to get any payout from the utility. And as the 2019 wildfire season takes another toll on Northern California and the utility's equipment is blamed for new fires, the number of homes destroyed ticks up. More victims are filing claims against the company, potentially reducing the payout all victims and creditors could receive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The more victims there are, the smaller the slices of the pie. That's just the way it's going to be,\" said Hugh Ray, a bankruptcy attorney and principal at the law firm McKool Smith.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recovery has been particularly hard for Camp Fire survivors because many in their safety nets also lost everything. Christina Taft, who lived with her mother before the fire, says she's relying on charity after the fire killed her mother and destroyed the home they shared.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I'm still trying to get a job and I still have stuff in storage and I'm not economically stable,\" Taft said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In its bankruptcy plan, PG&E has pledged to pay $8.4 billion to wildfire victims and an additional \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11774069/pge-insurance-companies-strike-11-billion-deal-to-settle-wildfire-claims\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">$11 billion to compensate insurance companies for their payouts\u003c/a>. A competing proposal made by bondholders seeking to gain control of PG&E would pay wildfire victims $13.5 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size='medium' align='right' citation='Hugh Ray, bankruptcy attorney']'The more victims there are, the smaller the slices of the pie. That's just the way it's going to be.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's unclear how much the total liabilities for wildfire victims will amount to, and the matter is being litigated. Attorneys for wildfire victims hope for a full recovery, but some bankruptcy experts are skeptical.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They're not going to get anything like a complete recovery,\" Ray said. \"It won't be enough to solve all the problems. At this point I don't see the money.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Complicating matters, debts that PG&E incurred after the company filed for bankruptcy protection are supposed to be treated as a higher priority than those incurred before bankruptcy, experts said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Without bankruptcy law that enables companies to continue operating after filing, no one would be willing to lend to the company or provide equipment, for fear of not getting paid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That means victims of blazes —\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782314/what-you-need-to-know-sonoma-countys-kincade-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> such as the one last month in Sonoma County\u003c/a> that destroyed 374 structures and forced 200,000 people to evacuate — are supposed to be paid before victims of earlier fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It doesn't make sense to me,\" Taft said. \"You'd think it would be based on what's oldest, and obviously the Paradise fire was the most destructive. It's very unfair.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorneys for wildfire victims — many who represent victims of blazes before and after the bankruptcy filing — are trying to change that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gerald Singleton, who represents approximately 7,000 wildfire victims, says claims from last month's fire should be passed through to the reorganized company and handled by its insurance, as if they're not part of the bankruptcy. That would allow those victims time to file claims without delaying PG&E's bankruptcy, which faces a June 2020 legislative deadline to access a $21 billion state wildfire fund.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's not going to be fair to (those) victims, because they would have to file within a very short period of time,\" Singleton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[aside tag='pge' label='PG&E Bankruptcy: How We Got Here']\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Kennedy's case, she and her husband grabbed a few photos and their cats as they fled. They spent the next 110 days moving from one hotel to the next as they figured out how to rebuild. An insurance settlement covered the value of her home and its contents, but it wasn't enough to buy again in the area, where home prices were skyrocketing. She and her husband eventually bought a fixer-upper that needed extensive work while her husband undergoes dialysis treatments three times a week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I feel cheated, of course,\" Kennedy said. \"Everyone considered their loss as a great loss, and that it shouldn't be diminished, but I also know reality. You can kick and scream all you want, but it's just going to happen the way it's going to happen.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some wildfire victims didn't have insurance or received insurance payouts that were too small to afford anything in the area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There are people who have ongoing mental or emotional issues, and they can't get comfortable anywhere, because they fear getting burned out again,\" said Mike Danko, another attorney who represents wildfire victims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Continued fires also threatened the bankruptcy plans. Each of the competing proposals gives financial backers an out under certain conditions. For example, if PG&E-sparked fires burn down 500 houses this year, the backers of those plans can withdraw, Danko said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E said it's too soon to discuss liability for the Sonoma County fire, for which a cause has not been determined.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Everything they thought that they had worked out is now being challenged, because the numbers are now being stressed,\" said Risa Wolf-Smith, a bankruptcy attorney and partner at Holland & Hart, which represents an entity from which PG&E promised to buy renewable energy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An eventual payout from PG&E still wouldn't come close to replacing everything Kennedy lost. One of her animals didn't survive boarding. Her best friend, who survived the fire, later died after a heart attack. A close friend left California after receiving a small insurance settlement and her community has been erased from the map.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I keep hoping that as time passes it will soften, it will blur the edges,\" Kennedy said. \"I think we all are trying to move forward. It's just been extremely challenging.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"As claims against PG&E grow, some victims and creditors are worried the amount paid out may shrink.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1574551228,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":33,"wordCount":1185},"headData":{"title":"Survivors Fear Smaller Payouts From PG&E With Each Fire | KQED","description":"As claims against PG&E grow, some victims and creditors are worried the amount paid out may shrink.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Survivors Fear Smaller Payouts From PG&E With Each Fire","datePublished":"2019-11-23T23:06:53.000Z","dateModified":"2019-11-23T23:20:28.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11788316 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11788316","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/11/23/survivors-fear-smaller-payouts-from-pge-with-each-fire/","disqusTitle":"Survivors Fear Smaller Payouts From PG&E With Each Fire","nprByline":"\u003cstrong>Cathy Bussewitz\u003cbr />Associated Press\u003c/strong>","path":"/news/11788316/survivors-fear-smaller-payouts-from-pge-with-each-fire","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Lori Kennedy thought she was going to live a comfortable retirement in a modest home in wooded Magalia, California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But she woke up a year ago to a phone call and hurried evacuation orders, and in a matter of hours nearly every trace of her life was incinerated: the Christmas ornaments her children made when they were little, the sculptures and artwork she spent her career creating, the home where she hosted family gatherings for more than two decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's not just that you've lost things,\" Kennedy said. \"You've lost validation of your existence for all those years. You can replace furniture. But you can't replace baby books, wedding albums.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"camp-fire","label":"More Coverage. "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kennedy is one of thousands of survivors of the Camp Fire, the deadliest wildfire in California history, which was sparked by Pacific Gas & Electric equipment in November 2018 and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11710884/list-of-those-who-died-in-butte-county-paradise-camp-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">killed 85 people\u003c/a> and nearly incinerated the town of Paradise. More than 70,000 people have filed claims against the utility over various wildfires in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorneys believe as many as 100,000 people are eligible to receive payments for damages they suffered during the devastating wildfires of recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But wildfire victims of previous years must wait for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/pge\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">PG&E to exit bankruptcy\u003c/a> to get any payout from the utility. And as the 2019 wildfire season takes another toll on Northern California and the utility's equipment is blamed for new fires, the number of homes destroyed ticks up. More victims are filing claims against the company, potentially reducing the payout all victims and creditors could receive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The more victims there are, the smaller the slices of the pie. That's just the way it's going to be,\" said Hugh Ray, a bankruptcy attorney and principal at the law firm McKool Smith.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recovery has been particularly hard for Camp Fire survivors because many in their safety nets also lost everything. Christina Taft, who lived with her mother before the fire, says she's relying on charity after the fire killed her mother and destroyed the home they shared.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I'm still trying to get a job and I still have stuff in storage and I'm not economically stable,\" Taft said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In its bankruptcy plan, PG&E has pledged to pay $8.4 billion to wildfire victims and an additional \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11774069/pge-insurance-companies-strike-11-billion-deal-to-settle-wildfire-claims\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">$11 billion to compensate insurance companies for their payouts\u003c/a>. A competing proposal made by bondholders seeking to gain control of PG&E would pay wildfire victims $13.5 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'The more victims there are, the smaller the slices of the pie. That's just the way it's going to be.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Hugh Ray, bankruptcy attorney","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's unclear how much the total liabilities for wildfire victims will amount to, and the matter is being litigated. Attorneys for wildfire victims hope for a full recovery, but some bankruptcy experts are skeptical.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They're not going to get anything like a complete recovery,\" Ray said. \"It won't be enough to solve all the problems. At this point I don't see the money.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Complicating matters, debts that PG&E incurred after the company filed for bankruptcy protection are supposed to be treated as a higher priority than those incurred before bankruptcy, experts said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Without bankruptcy law that enables companies to continue operating after filing, no one would be willing to lend to the company or provide equipment, for fear of not getting paid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That means victims of blazes —\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11782314/what-you-need-to-know-sonoma-countys-kincade-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> such as the one last month in Sonoma County\u003c/a> that destroyed 374 structures and forced 200,000 people to evacuate — are supposed to be paid before victims of earlier fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It doesn't make sense to me,\" Taft said. \"You'd think it would be based on what's oldest, and obviously the Paradise fire was the most destructive. It's very unfair.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorneys for wildfire victims — many who represent victims of blazes before and after the bankruptcy filing — are trying to change that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gerald Singleton, who represents approximately 7,000 wildfire victims, says claims from last month's fire should be passed through to the reorganized company and handled by its insurance, as if they're not part of the bankruptcy. 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An insurance settlement covered the value of her home and its contents, but it wasn't enough to buy again in the area, where home prices were skyrocketing. She and her husband eventually bought a fixer-upper that needed extensive work while her husband undergoes dialysis treatments three times a week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I feel cheated, of course,\" Kennedy said. \"Everyone considered their loss as a great loss, and that it shouldn't be diminished, but I also know reality. 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For example, if PG&E-sparked fires burn down 500 houses this year, the backers of those plans can withdraw, Danko said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E said it's too soon to discuss liability for the Sonoma County fire, for which a cause has not been determined.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Everything they thought that they had worked out is now being challenged, because the numbers are now being stressed,\" said Risa Wolf-Smith, a bankruptcy attorney and partner at Holland & Hart, which represents an entity from which PG&E promised to buy renewable energy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An eventual payout from PG&E still wouldn't come close to replacing everything Kennedy lost. One of her animals didn't survive boarding. Her best friend, who survived the fire, later died after a heart attack. 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