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[aside postID=news_11880307]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire forced nearly 300,000 residents of Los Angeles and Ventura counties to flee flames that burned across more than 150 square miles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators found that high winds blew a loose guy wire into electrified conductors, causing an electrical arc and a first ignition. The utility’s “poor vegetation control” near its lines contributed to a second ignition when its lines became electrified by the first arcing, they found. [aside tag=\"wildfire\" label=\"More Related Stories\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the department concluded that it couldn’t prove beyond a reasonable doubt not only that the utility’s equipment caused the fire, but that the company knew it was causing a risk and ignored it in “a gross deviation from what a reasonable utility would have done in the same situation.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The decision contrasts with the numerous criminal charges brought or planned against Pacific Gas & Electric, the nation’s largest utility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E’s equipment has been blamed for sparking some of the state’s deadliest wildfires, most notably when a series of blazes burned down more than 28,000 buildings and killed more than 100 people in 2017 and 2018.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has said its equipment may have ignited some of the fires currently burning, including the giant \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11884337/investigators-probing-pges-possible-link-to-fateful-dixie-fire-drone-flight\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dixie Fire\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also Friday, state fire investigators said they were unable to find the cause of September’s Glass Fire that started in Napa County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That fire destroyed more than 1,500 structures while burning more than 100 square miles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>High winds and temperatures along with dry vegetation led to “extreme rates of fire spread which contributed to the difficulty in determining the cause of the fire,” investigators said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The California Department of Justice said it found 'insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution' against Southern California Edison for the Woolsey Fire.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1628960620,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":354},"headData":{"title":"No Criminal Charges in Fatal 2018 Woolsey Wildfire | KQED","description":"The California Department of Justice said it found 'insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution' against Southern California Edison for the Woolsey Fire.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"No Criminal Charges in Fatal 2018 Woolsey Wildfire","datePublished":"2021-08-14T18:03:21.000Z","dateModified":"2021-08-14T17:03:40.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11885148 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11885148","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2021/08/14/no-criminal-charges-in-fatal-2018-woolsey-wildfire/","disqusTitle":"No Criminal Charges in Fatal 2018 Woolsey Wildfire","nprByline":"Don Thompson \u003cbr> The Associated Press","path":"/news/11885148/no-criminal-charges-in-fatal-2018-woolsey-wildfire","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The California Department of Justice said Friday that it will not bring criminal charges against a utility whose equipment sparked a 2018 fire that killed three people and destroyed more than 1,600 homes and other structures.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The department said it found “insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution” against Southern California Edison for the Woolsey Fire. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11880307","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire forced nearly 300,000 residents of Los Angeles and Ventura counties to flee flames that burned across more than 150 square miles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Investigators found that high winds blew a loose guy wire into electrified conductors, causing an electrical arc and a first ignition. The utility’s “poor vegetation control” near its lines contributed to a second ignition when its lines became electrified by the first arcing, they found. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"wildfire","label":"More Related Stories "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the department concluded that it couldn’t prove beyond a reasonable doubt not only that the utility’s equipment caused the fire, but that the company knew it was causing a risk and ignored it in “a gross deviation from what a reasonable utility would have done in the same situation.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The decision contrasts with the numerous criminal charges brought or planned against Pacific Gas & Electric, the nation’s largest utility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E’s equipment has been blamed for sparking some of the state’s deadliest wildfires, most notably when a series of blazes burned down more than 28,000 buildings and killed more than 100 people in 2017 and 2018.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has said its equipment may have ignited some of the fires currently burning, including the giant \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11884337/investigators-probing-pges-possible-link-to-fateful-dixie-fire-drone-flight\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dixie Fire\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also Friday, state fire investigators said they were unable to find the cause of September’s Glass Fire that started in Napa County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That fire destroyed more than 1,500 structures while burning more than 100 square miles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>High winds and temperatures along with dry vegetation led to “extreme rates of fire spread which contributed to the difficulty in determining the cause of the fire,” investigators said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11885148/no-criminal-charges-in-fatal-2018-woolsey-wildfire","authors":["byline_news_11885148"],"categories":["news_8","news_356"],"tags":["news_787","news_4337","news_24487"],"featImg":"news_11885149","label":"news"},"news_11713608":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11713608","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11713608","score":null,"sort":[1545257526000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"biker-bar-in-the-malibu-hills-serves-as-bedrock-for-a-fire-ravaged-community","title":"Biker Bar in the Malibu Hills Serves as Bedrock for a Fire-Ravaged Community","publishDate":1545257526,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Before the Woolsey Fire raged near Malibu in November, hundreds of bikers gathered each weekend at the \u003ca href=\"http://rock-store.com/about/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rock Store\u003c/a> for pancakes or a cup of coffee before riding through the Santa Monica Mountains on the twisty road called \"The Snake.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the fire swept through the area, not much was left standing – except, somewhat miraculously, the popular biker bar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/2281\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Woolsey Fire\u003c/a> was one of the largest fires in Los Angeles County history. It burned for two weeks, destroying 15,000 structures and decimating almost 100,000 acres. Three people died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, more than a month after it swept through the area, the air still smells like ash. The surrounding hills are an eerie blackened moonscape. Burnt rubble and twisted metal are all that's left of whole neighborhoods nearby.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amid this destruction, the Rock Store became a makeshift community center — even without power or a working telephone. Dozens of people rolled through to check in, including actor Keanu Reeves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713692\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713692\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0049-highres_custom-46a3e94a1a1cc566c9bb739ed9368549d6c18e36-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Built from volcanic rock, the Rock Store building was formerly a stagecoach stop in the 1910s. At first, Ed and Vern Savko opened it as a small town grocery store.\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0049-highres_custom-46a3e94a1a1cc566c9bb739ed9368549d6c18e36-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0049-highres_custom-46a3e94a1a1cc566c9bb739ed9368549d6c18e36-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Built from volcanic rock, the Rock Store building was formerly a stagecoach stop in the 1910s. At first, Ed and Vern Savko opened it as a small-town grocery store. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713693\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713693\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Rich Savko and his mother, Vern, at the Rock Store.\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85-520x346.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rich Savko and his mother, Vern, at the Rock Store. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Vern Savko and her husband, Ed, bought the Rock Store in 1961 and ran it together until Ed died in 2012. Vern is 90 now, and their son, Rich, runs the place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rich Savko set up barbecue pits to cook off all the food they had left and shared it with anyone still in the area. They used a generator to boil water to make coffee that they handed out. The American Red Cross set up shop in the parking lot. Rich hasn't let anyone pay for any of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713694\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11713694\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85-800x599.jpg\" alt=\"Left: A mailbox across the street from the Rock Store. Right: Gary Jones' multi-acre property above the Rock Store once had five structures. Now all that's left is a towering chimney where the main house once stood, shells of burnt vehicles, and a trailer (bottom right) that managed to survive the flames where Jones is now living.\" width=\"800\" height=\"599\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85-800x599.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85-1020x763.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85-1200x898.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Left: A mailbox across the street from the Rock Store. Right: Gary Jones' multi-acre property above the Rock Store once had five structures. Now all that's left is a towering chimney where the main house once stood, shells of burnt vehicles, and a trailer (bottom right) that managed to survive the flames where Jones is now living. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"It seemed really tough around Thanksgiving,\" Savko remembers, sitting outside on the patio. Tears well up in his eyes. \"People obviously lost all their homes and things like that, but they sat out here and had Thanksgiving dinner. The guy across the street cooked a huge turkey. People didn't know where they were going to go or what they were going to do, but fortunately we were able to light some battery-powered lanterns and celebrate.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a recent day, even though the bar is officially closed, a group of firefighters gather in the parking lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713696\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713696\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0072-highres_custom-b507fe2b8e1ea1e02f91caec2d6a13aebd98ab6f-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Los Angeles County firefighters, from left: Brian Knutson, Jay Colvin, Adam Young and Marcus Carballo. Knutson lives in the community and says this is the worst fire any of them can ever remember. "It's always hard to talk to someone that's lost their house," he says. "I wish we could have done more for them."\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0072-highres_custom-b507fe2b8e1ea1e02f91caec2d6a13aebd98ab6f-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0072-highres_custom-b507fe2b8e1ea1e02f91caec2d6a13aebd98ab6f-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Los Angeles County firefighters, from left: Brian Knutson, Jay Colvin, Adam Young and Marcus Carballo. Knutson lives in the community and says this is the worst fire any of them can ever remember. \"It's always hard to talk to someone that's lost their house,\" he says. \"I wish we could have done more for them.\" \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>One of the people who lost everything is 76-year-old Gary Jones. He's lived on the ridge above the Rock Store for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jones ignored the initial evacuation orders, and by the time he tried to leave, the fire had surrounded his house. He got trapped behind a big metal gate at his property line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I called my wife and said goodbye and asked her to pray for me,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713697\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713697\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0176-highres_custom-6d166eca2734513d257cf0a7131bf9320c29c872-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Holding a cigar, Gary Jones sits where his house once stood, in a wooden porch chair that somehow wasn't destroyed. Jones lost three of his five dogs in the flames and came back the next day to bury them. His horse was found alive up the hill and is recovering from burns.\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0176-highres_custom-6d166eca2734513d257cf0a7131bf9320c29c872-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0176-highres_custom-6d166eca2734513d257cf0a7131bf9320c29c872-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Holding a cigar, Gary Jones sits where his house once stood, in a wooden porch chair that somehow wasn't destroyed. Jones lost three of his five dogs in the flames and came back the next day to bury them. His horse was found alive up the hill and is recovering from burns. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713698\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713698\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Coins melted together on Jones' property. He had a pot of coins for his grandchildren to pull from when they visited.\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85-520x346.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Coins melted together on Jones' property. He had a pot of coins for his grandchildren to pull from when they visited. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713699\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713699\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0164-highres_custom-9f487f0248bb35328a8dae9f98e0f29d2bf1783d-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"A few of the burned-out vehicles on Jones' property. The truck he used to escape during the fire is heavily blistered by fire, but still intact.\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0164-highres_custom-9f487f0248bb35328a8dae9f98e0f29d2bf1783d-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0164-highres_custom-9f487f0248bb35328a8dae9f98e0f29d2bf1783d-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A few of the burned-out vehicles on Jones' property. The truck he used to escape during the fire is heavily blistered by fire, but still intact. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>After about 10 minutes, he managed to force the gate open and drive through the black smoke down the hill to safety. When he returned a few days later, the house was gone. He had to leave in such a hurry that he lost three of his five dogs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, a tall brick chimney looms over a stretch of blackened stone where he used to live. A bathtub is about the only recognizable object in the rubble. A shell of a car sits in a melted garage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We've been doing some sifting,\" Jones says, pointing to piles of ash. \"I found my wife's wedding ring. Turns out rubies don't melt!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's not much Jones can do these days. He's waiting for a hazardous materials team to come inspect the mess and authorize him to take everything to the dump. He says he's actually excited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713700\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11713700\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85-800x599.jpg\" alt=\"Left: On Linda Rappoport's property, the glass liquefied and flowed like a river, before solidifying again. Right: Rappoport lives behind the Rock Store. The house she had just finished remodeling two days before the fire burned to the ground. Another smaller front house was left standing. She was sleeping when the evacuation orders were announced and awoke to the fire surrounding her property.\" width=\"800\" height=\"599\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85-800x599.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85-1020x763.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85-1200x898.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Left: On Linda Rappoport's property, the glass liquefied and flowed like a river, before solidifying again. Right: Rappoport lives behind the Rock Store. The house she had just finished remodeling two days before the fire burned to the ground. Another smaller front house was left standing. She was sleeping when the evacuation orders were announced and awoke to the fire surrounding her property. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"This is a blessing in disguise,\" he says. He had storage containers on the property, containers \"full of decisions that haven't been made yet.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"And when you finally clear out the storage container it has a feeling of cleansing. That's kind of what I feel like. All the problems I had were gone,\" he says. \"I've got some new ones now. But you know, everyone talks about turning the pages of a book and it's true — I'm turning the pages of a book, but the book is getting more interesting.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These days, the signs of progress are small. Residents are combing through property, hoping to find mementos that survived the inferno. Roads are opening and power is being restored. Shoots of grass are starting to poke out of the ashy soil.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And last weekend, the Rock Store officially opened for business for the first time since the fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The smells of frying bacon, pancakes and coffee cover up the scent of ash in the air. Vern Savko, who bought the place more than 50 years ago, sits in a booth drinking tea, looking around at her grateful customers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's so great to see everybody, you know? They were worried about us, so it's great. I cry every time I start ...\" She trails off and her eyes fill with tears as she scans the blackened hills around the store. \"But we're here.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Biker+Bar+In+The+Malibu+Hills+Serves+As+Bedrock+For+A+Fire-Ravaged+Community&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Rock Store, run by the Savko family for more than 50 years, is one of the few structures still standing after last month's Woolsey Fire. There, amid the destruction, locals found help and hope.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1545258578,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":1181},"headData":{"title":"Biker Bar in the Malibu Hills Serves as Bedrock for a Fire-Ravaged Community | KQED","description":"The Rock Store, run by the Savko family for more than 50 years, is one of the few structures still standing after last month's Woolsey Fire. There, amid the destruction, locals found help and hope.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Biker Bar in the Malibu Hills Serves as Bedrock for a Fire-Ravaged Community","datePublished":"2018-12-19T22:12:06.000Z","dateModified":"2018-12-19T22:29:38.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11713608 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11713608","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/12/19/biker-bar-in-the-malibu-hills-serves-as-bedrock-for-a-fire-ravaged-community/","disqusTitle":"Biker Bar in the Malibu Hills Serves as Bedrock for a Fire-Ravaged Community","source":"NPR","sourceUrl":"https://www.npr.org","nprByline":"Ari Shapiro and Kat Lonsdorf","path":"/news/11713608/biker-bar-in-the-malibu-hills-serves-as-bedrock-for-a-fire-ravaged-community","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Before the Woolsey Fire raged near Malibu in November, hundreds of bikers gathered each weekend at the \u003ca href=\"http://rock-store.com/about/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rock Store\u003c/a> for pancakes or a cup of coffee before riding through the Santa Monica Mountains on the twisty road called \"The Snake.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the fire swept through the area, not much was left standing – except, somewhat miraculously, the popular biker bar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/2281\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Woolsey Fire\u003c/a> was one of the largest fires in Los Angeles County history. It burned for two weeks, destroying 15,000 structures and decimating almost 100,000 acres. Three people died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, more than a month after it swept through the area, the air still smells like ash. The surrounding hills are an eerie blackened moonscape. Burnt rubble and twisted metal are all that's left of whole neighborhoods nearby.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amid this destruction, the Rock Store became a makeshift community center — even without power or a working telephone. Dozens of people rolled through to check in, including actor Keanu Reeves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713692\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713692\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0049-highres_custom-46a3e94a1a1cc566c9bb739ed9368549d6c18e36-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Built from volcanic rock, the Rock Store building was formerly a stagecoach stop in the 1910s. At first, Ed and Vern Savko opened it as a small town grocery store.\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0049-highres_custom-46a3e94a1a1cc566c9bb739ed9368549d6c18e36-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0049-highres_custom-46a3e94a1a1cc566c9bb739ed9368549d6c18e36-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Built from volcanic rock, the Rock Store building was formerly a stagecoach stop in the 1910s. At first, Ed and Vern Savko opened it as a small-town grocery store. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713693\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713693\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Rich Savko and his mother, Vern, at the Rock Store.\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0070-highres_custom-e61e86399ed63e6083cdc981d53a9109d3efd35c-s700-c85-520x346.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rich Savko and his mother, Vern, at the Rock Store. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Vern Savko and her husband, Ed, bought the Rock Store in 1961 and ran it together until Ed died in 2012. Vern is 90 now, and their son, Rich, runs the place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rich Savko set up barbecue pits to cook off all the food they had left and shared it with anyone still in the area. They used a generator to boil water to make coffee that they handed out. The American Red Cross set up shop in the parking lot. Rich hasn't let anyone pay for any of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713694\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11713694\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85-800x599.jpg\" alt=\"Left: A mailbox across the street from the Rock Store. Right: Gary Jones' multi-acre property above the Rock Store once had five structures. Now all that's left is a towering chimney where the main house once stood, shells of burnt vehicles, and a trailer (bottom right) that managed to survive the flames where Jones is now living.\" width=\"800\" height=\"599\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85-800x599.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85-1020x763.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85-1200x898.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuballbarmalibu_custom-0fdc9187433d162a60af9ebe7aa07b91914088d8-s1300-c85.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Left: A mailbox across the street from the Rock Store. Right: Gary Jones' multi-acre property above the Rock Store once had five structures. Now all that's left is a towering chimney where the main house once stood, shells of burnt vehicles, and a trailer (bottom right) that managed to survive the flames where Jones is now living. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"It seemed really tough around Thanksgiving,\" Savko remembers, sitting outside on the patio. Tears well up in his eyes. \"People obviously lost all their homes and things like that, but they sat out here and had Thanksgiving dinner. The guy across the street cooked a huge turkey. People didn't know where they were going to go or what they were going to do, but fortunately we were able to light some battery-powered lanterns and celebrate.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a recent day, even though the bar is officially closed, a group of firefighters gather in the parking lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713696\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713696\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0072-highres_custom-b507fe2b8e1ea1e02f91caec2d6a13aebd98ab6f-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Los Angeles County firefighters, from left: Brian Knutson, Jay Colvin, Adam Young and Marcus Carballo. Knutson lives in the community and says this is the worst fire any of them can ever remember. "It's always hard to talk to someone that's lost their house," he says. "I wish we could have done more for them."\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0072-highres_custom-b507fe2b8e1ea1e02f91caec2d6a13aebd98ab6f-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0072-highres_custom-b507fe2b8e1ea1e02f91caec2d6a13aebd98ab6f-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Los Angeles County firefighters, from left: Brian Knutson, Jay Colvin, Adam Young and Marcus Carballo. Knutson lives in the community and says this is the worst fire any of them can ever remember. \"It's always hard to talk to someone that's lost their house,\" he says. \"I wish we could have done more for them.\" \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>One of the people who lost everything is 76-year-old Gary Jones. He's lived on the ridge above the Rock Store for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jones ignored the initial evacuation orders, and by the time he tried to leave, the fire had surrounded his house. He got trapped behind a big metal gate at his property line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I called my wife and said goodbye and asked her to pray for me,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713697\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713697\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0176-highres_custom-6d166eca2734513d257cf0a7131bf9320c29c872-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Holding a cigar, Gary Jones sits where his house once stood, in a wooden porch chair that somehow wasn't destroyed. Jones lost three of his five dogs in the flames and came back the next day to bury them. His horse was found alive up the hill and is recovering from burns.\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0176-highres_custom-6d166eca2734513d257cf0a7131bf9320c29c872-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0176-highres_custom-6d166eca2734513d257cf0a7131bf9320c29c872-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Holding a cigar, Gary Jones sits where his house once stood, in a wooden porch chair that somehow wasn't destroyed. Jones lost three of his five dogs in the flames and came back the next day to bury them. His horse was found alive up the hill and is recovering from burns. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713698\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713698\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Coins melted together on Jones' property. He had a pot of coins for his grandchildren to pull from when they visited.\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0218-highres_custom-9661aa12b0d00ffbbcf7f983a48cb94d22a0f04a-s700-c85-520x346.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Coins melted together on Jones' property. He had a pot of coins for his grandchildren to pull from when they visited. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713699\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 700px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11713699\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0164-highres_custom-9f487f0248bb35328a8dae9f98e0f29d2bf1783d-s700-c85.jpg\" alt=\"A few of the burned-out vehicles on Jones' property. The truck he used to escape during the fire is heavily blistered by fire, but still intact.\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0164-highres_custom-9f487f0248bb35328a8dae9f98e0f29d2bf1783d-s700-c85.jpg 700w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-181207-0164-highres_custom-9f487f0248bb35328a8dae9f98e0f29d2bf1783d-s700-c85-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A few of the burned-out vehicles on Jones' property. The truck he used to escape during the fire is heavily blistered by fire, but still intact. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>After about 10 minutes, he managed to force the gate open and drive through the black smoke down the hill to safety. When he returned a few days later, the house was gone. He had to leave in such a hurry that he lost three of his five dogs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, a tall brick chimney looms over a stretch of blackened stone where he used to live. A bathtub is about the only recognizable object in the rubble. A shell of a car sits in a melted garage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We've been doing some sifting,\" Jones says, pointing to piles of ash. \"I found my wife's wedding ring. Turns out rubies don't melt!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's not much Jones can do these days. He's waiting for a hazardous materials team to come inspect the mess and authorize him to take everything to the dump. He says he's actually excited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11713700\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11713700\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85-800x599.jpg\" alt=\"Left: On Linda Rappoport's property, the glass liquefied and flowed like a river, before solidifying again. Right: Rappoport lives behind the Rock Store. The house she had just finished remodeling two days before the fire burned to the ground. Another smaller front house was left standing. She was sleeping when the evacuation orders were announced and awoke to the fire surrounding her property.\" width=\"800\" height=\"599\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85-800x599.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85-1020x763.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85-1200x898.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/lizkuball-rock-storebar_custom-b8e4177c050128b49dab7a4db5b7fe39019e5acc-s1300-c85.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Left: On Linda Rappoport's property, the glass liquefied and flowed like a river, before solidifying again. Right: Rappoport lives behind the Rock Store. The house she had just finished remodeling two days before the fire burned to the ground. Another smaller front house was left standing. She was sleeping when the evacuation orders were announced and awoke to the fire surrounding her property. \u003ccite>(Liz Kuball for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"This is a blessing in disguise,\" he says. He had storage containers on the property, containers \"full of decisions that haven't been made yet.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"And when you finally clear out the storage container it has a feeling of cleansing. That's kind of what I feel like. All the problems I had were gone,\" he says. \"I've got some new ones now. But you know, everyone talks about turning the pages of a book and it's true — I'm turning the pages of a book, but the book is getting more interesting.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These days, the signs of progress are small. Residents are combing through property, hoping to find mementos that survived the inferno. Roads are opening and power is being restored. Shoots of grass are starting to poke out of the ashy soil.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And last weekend, the Rock Store officially opened for business for the first time since the fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The smells of frying bacon, pancakes and coffee cover up the scent of ash in the air. Vern Savko, who bought the place more than 50 years ago, sits in a booth drinking tea, looking around at her grateful customers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's so great to see everybody, you know? They were worried about us, so it's great. I cry every time I start ...\" She trails off and her eyes fill with tears as she scans the blackened hills around the store. \"But we're here.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Biker+Bar+In+The+Malibu+Hills+Serves+As+Bedrock+For+A+Fire-Ravaged+Community&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11713608/biker-bar-in-the-malibu-hills-serves-as-bedrock-for-a-fire-ravaged-community","authors":["byline_news_11713608"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8"],"tags":["news_24487"],"affiliates":["news_253"],"featImg":"news_11713691","label":"source_news_11713608"},"news_11712563":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11712563","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11712563","score":null,"sort":[1544832567000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"cal-fires-retiring-chief-firefighters-face-the-impacts-of-climate-change-every-day","title":"Cal Fire's Retiring Chief: 'Firefighters Face the Impacts of Climate Change Every Day'","publishDate":1544832567,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>After three decades of firefighting and managing some of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.fire.ca.gov/communications/downloads/fact_sheets/Top20_Destruction.pdf\">worst blazes in California history\u003c/a>, Ken Pimlott, chief of the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, is retiring today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Pimlott reflects on his 30 years of fire management, he says California currently finds itself with the “dubious distinction of breaking records\" in terms of wildfire prevalence, intensity and deadliness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2017, 1.2 million acres of land were destroyed by almost \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/california-wildfires-comparison/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ef8dcc086de2\">9,000 wildfires\u003c/a>, including the massive \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/thomas-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Thomas\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/tubbs-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tubbs\u003c/a> infernos. By the time the Thomas Fire was 100 percent contained, it had set the record for the largest wildfire in modern California history. It took less than a year for another fire to break that record.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'The reality of it is these fires are beyond the intensities of anything we have experienced.'\u003ccite>Ken Pimlott, Cal Fire chief\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>This year saw the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/woolsey-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Woolsey Fire\u003c/a> and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11705243/california-wildfires-what-you-need-to-know\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Camp Fire\u003c/a>. The deadliest and most destructive blaze in modern California’s history, the Camp Fire destroyed almost 14,000 homes and claimed at least 86 lives. Between those two blazes alone, plus the Hill Fire, insurance claims \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11712264/insurance-claims-at-9-billion-from-recent-california-fires\">have risen to $9 billion\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The damage — physically and psychologically — is staggering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Cal Fire explains that there are \u003ca href=\"https://www.fire.ca.gov/communications/downloads/fact_sheets/TheBenefitsofFire.pdf\">marked ecological benefits\u003c/a> to forest fires such as soil nourishment, the creation of new habitats for animals, the elimination of disease and seed regeneration, Pimlott says that in the past three of four years, the fires have far exceeded their natural cycles and are damaging, “not just the wildlife in the watershed, but are having significant impact on communities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11712677\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11712677\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire-800x581.jpg\" alt=\"Rep. Kevin McCarthy, Gov. Jerry Brown, Gov.-elect Gavin Newson and President Donald Trump listen to Cal Fire Chief Ken Pimlott during Trump's visit to the Camp Fire in Chico on Nov. 17, 2018.\" width=\"800\" height=\"581\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire-800x581.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire-160x116.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire-1020x741.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire-1200x872.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rep. Kevin McCarthy, Gov. Jerry Brown, Gov.-elect Gavin Newsom and President Trump listen to Cal Fire Chief Ken Pimlott during Trump's visit to the Camp Fire in Chico on Nov. 17, 2018. \u003ccite>(Paul Kitagaki Jr.-Pool/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Despite President Trump’s accusations that California’s vulnerability to recent fire decimation is due to botched forest management, Pimlott says California has invested more as a state than any other over the next five years, committing $1 billion in \u003ca href=\"https://www.c2es.org/content/california-cap-and-trade/\">cap-and-trade\u003c/a> funding specifically slated for forest health, fire prevention, fuels treatment and public education.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061168803218948096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 10, 2018\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\"We’ve been ramping up the state's capabilities — along with our local government partners and the federal firefighting agencies — to respond,\" says Pimlott. \"We have been continuing to invest in [fire prevention], but understanding that just every year the intensities continue to increase.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite rainfall and weather patterns in the past two years that have given California a respite of moisture, the vegetation remains “critically dry.” Cal Fire’s herculean financial and infrastructural efforts remain no match for the unprecedented fires caused by climate change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Firefighters are facing the impacts of climate change every day, literally,” Pimlott says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“They're the indicators, they're the ones that are deployed for months at a time. They're the ones that are experiencing these increased fire conditions and you can go out and talk to any experienced firefighter and they will tell you...things have significantly changed over the last several decades.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>As the ubiquity of these blazes isn’t likely to change, he says we have to learn from past fires and continue to take a hard look at determining where houses can be built in the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pimlott says that the state will absolutely continue to build — there are, after all, 40 million people in California who need places to call home — and there is a commitment to rebuild Paradise. In the wake of these fires, newfound focus is being put on land use planning, identifying high fire hazard severity zones, building codes, construction, placement in the urban interface and even cluster development to maximize protection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There just may be areas in drainage or that are critical fire corridors that intensify winds that it will make it impossible to protect a structure,” he continues. “How do we build smartly to make sure we're not putting people in harm's way? There's a lot to look at.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pimlott explains that the state is not interested in dictating ordinances or legislation down to local government, but “we're going to be bringing everyone along and having those hard conversations.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gavin Newsom, governor-elect of California, has yet to name Pimlott’s successor, but whoever takes over will have a daunting task as California scrambles to combat our new normal amid threats of depleted federal funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The reality of it is these fires are beyond the intensities of anything we have experienced,” Pimlott says. “We have to learn to live with fire in California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Ken Pimlott says we have to learn from past blazes and continue to take a hard look at determining where California’s houses can be built in the future.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1544832567,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":20,"wordCount":857},"headData":{"title":"Cal Fire's Retiring Chief: 'Firefighters Face the Impacts of Climate Change Every Day' | KQED","description":"Ken Pimlott says we have to learn from past blazes and continue to take a hard look at determining where California’s houses can be built in the future.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Cal Fire's Retiring Chief: 'Firefighters Face the Impacts of Climate Change Every Day'","datePublished":"2018-12-15T00:09:27.000Z","dateModified":"2018-12-15T00:09:27.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11712563 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11712563","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/12/14/cal-fires-retiring-chief-firefighters-face-the-impacts-of-climate-change-every-day/","disqusTitle":"Cal Fire's Retiring Chief: 'Firefighters Face the Impacts of Climate Change Every Day'","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/2018/12/Pimlott2way.mp3","audioTrackLength":248,"path":"/news/11712563/cal-fires-retiring-chief-firefighters-face-the-impacts-of-climate-change-every-day","audioDuration":234000,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>After three decades of firefighting and managing some of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.fire.ca.gov/communications/downloads/fact_sheets/Top20_Destruction.pdf\">worst blazes in California history\u003c/a>, Ken Pimlott, chief of the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, is retiring today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Pimlott reflects on his 30 years of fire management, he says California currently finds itself with the “dubious distinction of breaking records\" in terms of wildfire prevalence, intensity and deadliness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2017, 1.2 million acres of land were destroyed by almost \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/california-wildfires-comparison/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ef8dcc086de2\">9,000 wildfires\u003c/a>, including the massive \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/thomas-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Thomas\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/tubbs-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tubbs\u003c/a> infernos. By the time the Thomas Fire was 100 percent contained, it had set the record for the largest wildfire in modern California history. It took less than a year for another fire to break that record.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'The reality of it is these fires are beyond the intensities of anything we have experienced.'\u003ccite>Ken Pimlott, Cal Fire chief\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>This year saw the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/woolsey-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Woolsey Fire\u003c/a> and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11705243/california-wildfires-what-you-need-to-know\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Camp Fire\u003c/a>. The deadliest and most destructive blaze in modern California’s history, the Camp Fire destroyed almost 14,000 homes and claimed at least 86 lives. Between those two blazes alone, plus the Hill Fire, insurance claims \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11712264/insurance-claims-at-9-billion-from-recent-california-fires\">have risen to $9 billion\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The damage — physically and psychologically — is staggering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Cal Fire explains that there are \u003ca href=\"https://www.fire.ca.gov/communications/downloads/fact_sheets/TheBenefitsofFire.pdf\">marked ecological benefits\u003c/a> to forest fires such as soil nourishment, the creation of new habitats for animals, the elimination of disease and seed regeneration, Pimlott says that in the past three of four years, the fires have far exceeded their natural cycles and are damaging, “not just the wildlife in the watershed, but are having significant impact on communities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11712677\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11712677\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire-800x581.jpg\" alt=\"Rep. Kevin McCarthy, Gov. Jerry Brown, Gov.-elect Gavin Newson and President Donald Trump listen to Cal Fire Chief Ken Pimlott during Trump's visit to the Camp Fire in Chico on Nov. 17, 2018.\" width=\"800\" height=\"581\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire-800x581.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire-160x116.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire-1020x741.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire-1200x872.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/PimlottCampFire.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rep. Kevin McCarthy, Gov. Jerry Brown, Gov.-elect Gavin Newsom and President Trump listen to Cal Fire Chief Ken Pimlott during Trump's visit to the Camp Fire in Chico on Nov. 17, 2018. \u003ccite>(Paul Kitagaki Jr.-Pool/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Despite President Trump’s accusations that California’s vulnerability to recent fire decimation is due to botched forest management, Pimlott says California has invested more as a state than any other over the next five years, committing $1 billion in \u003ca href=\"https://www.c2es.org/content/california-cap-and-trade/\">cap-and-trade\u003c/a> funding specifically slated for forest health, fire prevention, fuels treatment and public education.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061168803218948096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 10, 2018\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\"We’ve been ramping up the state's capabilities — along with our local government partners and the federal firefighting agencies — to respond,\" says Pimlott. \"We have been continuing to invest in [fire prevention], but understanding that just every year the intensities continue to increase.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite rainfall and weather patterns in the past two years that have given California a respite of moisture, the vegetation remains “critically dry.” Cal Fire’s herculean financial and infrastructural efforts remain no match for the unprecedented fires caused by climate change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Firefighters are facing the impacts of climate change every day, literally,” Pimlott says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“They're the indicators, they're the ones that are deployed for months at a time. They're the ones that are experiencing these increased fire conditions and you can go out and talk to any experienced firefighter and they will tell you...things have significantly changed over the last several decades.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>As the ubiquity of these blazes isn’t likely to change, he says we have to learn from past fires and continue to take a hard look at determining where houses can be built in the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pimlott says that the state will absolutely continue to build — there are, after all, 40 million people in California who need places to call home — and there is a commitment to rebuild Paradise. In the wake of these fires, newfound focus is being put on land use planning, identifying high fire hazard severity zones, building codes, construction, placement in the urban interface and even cluster development to maximize protection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There just may be areas in drainage or that are critical fire corridors that intensify winds that it will make it impossible to protect a structure,” he continues. “How do we build smartly to make sure we're not putting people in harm's way? There's a lot to look at.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pimlott explains that the state is not interested in dictating ordinances or legislation down to local government, but “we're going to be bringing everyone along and having those hard conversations.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gavin Newsom, governor-elect of California, has yet to name Pimlott’s successor, but whoever takes over will have a daunting task as California scrambles to combat our new normal amid threats of depleted federal funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The reality of it is these fires are beyond the intensities of anything we have experienced,” Pimlott says. “We have to learn to live with fire in California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11712563/cal-fires-retiring-chief-firefighters-face-the-impacts-of-climate-change-every-day","authors":["11545"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_356"],"tags":["news_20341","news_24483","news_255","news_4463","news_24487"],"featImg":"news_11712676","label":"news_72"},"news_11712264":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11712264","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11712264","score":null,"sort":[1544733504000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"insurance-claims-at-9-billion-from-recent-california-fires","title":"Insurance Claims at $9 Billion From Recent California Fires","publishDate":1544733504,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Insurance claims from last month's California wildfires already are at $9 billion and expected to increase, the state's insurance commissioner announced Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About $7 billion in claims are from the Camp Fire that destroyed the Northern California city of Paradise and killed at least 86 people, making it the deadliest U.S. wildfire in at least a century. The rest is from the Woolsey and Hill fires in Southern California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Collectively, the fires destroyed or damaged more than 20,000 structures, with the vast majority in and around Paradise. On Tuesday, state and federal authorities estimated it will cost at least $3 billion just to clear debris.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As the claims get perfected, as individuals get access to their former homes and neighborhoods, as they dialogue with their insurance companies and share more information about the scope of their loss, we expect these numbers to rise,\" Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones said of the $9 billion estimate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are more than 28,000 claims for residential personal property, nearly 2,000 from commercial property, and 9,400 in auto and other claims for the fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's well above the number of claims filed following a series of fires that tore through Northern California's wine country last year. Losses from those fires were initially pegged at $3.3 billion but eventually grew to $10 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the Camp Fire destroyed about double the number of structures as the 2017 fires, home values in Butte County are far lower than those in Sonoma County. That's part of the reason total claims may seem low compared to the 2017 figures, Jones said. Median home values in Sonoma County are more than double those in Butte.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jones advised homeowners to be cautious of \"fraudsters and scam artists\" trying to take advantage of vulnerable communities.\u003cbr>\nHe also said it's time for California to start rethinking how and if it builds in fire-prone areas. Ken Pimlott, outgoing director of the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, told The Associated Press this week that the state should consider banning construction in vulnerable areas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jones said local governments may not be fully considering the long-term impacts of building in areas at high risk of fire, floods and rising sea levels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's going to be a hard conversation. Everybody likes to build new, people obviously want to rebuild their communities,\" he said. \"We're in a new era where these risks are so bad I think we've really got to take a look at how we're making these decisions.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Authorities are still determining what caused the fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pacific Gas & Electric told regulators that a high-voltage power line malfunctioned at the time at a spot where investigators believe the fire started on Nov. 8.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco-based utility told the California Public Utilities Commission on Tuesday that several miles away workers found a fallen power pole and equipment with bullet holes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of fire victims have filed lawsuits alleging that PG&E's equipment started the fire that destroyed the town of Paradise and killed at least 86 people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The cleanup costs for last month's fires will far surpass the record expense of $1.3 billion the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers spent on debris removal in Northern California in 2017.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California Office of Emergency Services Director Mark Ghilarducci said the state will manage cleanup contracts this time. Last year, hundreds of Northern California homeowners complained that contractors paid by the ton hauled away too much dirt and damaged unbroken driveways, sidewalks and pipes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state OES spent millions repairing that damage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ghilarducci said the state OES will hire auditors and monitors to watch over debris removal in hopes of cutting down on the number of over-eager contractors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We learned a great number of things\" last year, Ghilarducci said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the U.S. Corps of Engineers was asked to lead the effort last year because state resources were stretched thin after responding to more than a dozen wildfires. This year, he said state officials can manage the cleanup, and costs will be shared among state, federal and local authorities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cleanup is expected to begin in January and take about a year to complete. State and federal officials are currently removing hazardous household materials from the damaged properties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>___\u003cbr>\nAssociated Press writer Paul Elias in San Francisco contributed to this story.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"There are more than 28,000 claims for residential personal property, nearly 2,000 from commercial property, and 9,400 in auto and other claims for the fires.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1544748596,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":24,"wordCount":741},"headData":{"title":"Insurance Claims at $9 Billion From Recent California Fires | KQED","description":"There are more than 28,000 claims for residential personal property, nearly 2,000 from commercial property, and 9,400 in auto and other claims for the fires.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Insurance Claims at $9 Billion From Recent California Fires","datePublished":"2018-12-13T20:38:24.000Z","dateModified":"2018-12-14T00:49:56.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11712264 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11712264","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/12/13/insurance-claims-at-9-billion-from-recent-california-fires/","disqusTitle":"Insurance Claims at $9 Billion From Recent California Fires","nprByline":"Kathleen Ronayne \u003c/br>Associated Press","audioTrackLength":84,"path":"/news/11712264/insurance-claims-at-9-billion-from-recent-california-fires","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio//2018/12/LewisDebrisCleanup.mp3","audioDuration":84000,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Insurance claims from last month's California wildfires already are at $9 billion and expected to increase, the state's insurance commissioner announced Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About $7 billion in claims are from the Camp Fire that destroyed the Northern California city of Paradise and killed at least 86 people, making it the deadliest U.S. wildfire in at least a century. The rest is from the Woolsey and Hill fires in Southern California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Collectively, the fires destroyed or damaged more than 20,000 structures, with the vast majority in and around Paradise. On Tuesday, state and federal authorities estimated it will cost at least $3 billion just to clear debris.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"As the claims get perfected, as individuals get access to their former homes and neighborhoods, as they dialogue with their insurance companies and share more information about the scope of their loss, we expect these numbers to rise,\" Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones said of the $9 billion estimate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are more than 28,000 claims for residential personal property, nearly 2,000 from commercial property, and 9,400 in auto and other claims for the fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's well above the number of claims filed following a series of fires that tore through Northern California's wine country last year. Losses from those fires were initially pegged at $3.3 billion but eventually grew to $10 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the Camp Fire destroyed about double the number of structures as the 2017 fires, home values in Butte County are far lower than those in Sonoma County. That's part of the reason total claims may seem low compared to the 2017 figures, Jones said. Median home values in Sonoma County are more than double those in Butte.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jones advised homeowners to be cautious of \"fraudsters and scam artists\" trying to take advantage of vulnerable communities.\u003cbr>\nHe also said it's time for California to start rethinking how and if it builds in fire-prone areas. Ken Pimlott, outgoing director of the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, told The Associated Press this week that the state should consider banning construction in vulnerable areas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jones said local governments may not be fully considering the long-term impacts of building in areas at high risk of fire, floods and rising sea levels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That's going to be a hard conversation. Everybody likes to build new, people obviously want to rebuild their communities,\" he said. \"We're in a new era where these risks are so bad I think we've really got to take a look at how we're making these decisions.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Authorities are still determining what caused the fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pacific Gas & Electric told regulators that a high-voltage power line malfunctioned at the time at a spot where investigators believe the fire started on Nov. 8.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco-based utility told the California Public Utilities Commission on Tuesday that several miles away workers found a fallen power pole and equipment with bullet holes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A number of fire victims have filed lawsuits alleging that PG&E's equipment started the fire that destroyed the town of Paradise and killed at least 86 people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The cleanup costs for last month's fires will far surpass the record expense of $1.3 billion the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers spent on debris removal in Northern California in 2017.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California Office of Emergency Services Director Mark Ghilarducci said the state will manage cleanup contracts this time. Last year, hundreds of Northern California homeowners complained that contractors paid by the ton hauled away too much dirt and damaged unbroken driveways, sidewalks and pipes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state OES spent millions repairing that damage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ghilarducci said the state OES will hire auditors and monitors to watch over debris removal in hopes of cutting down on the number of over-eager contractors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We learned a great number of things\" last year, Ghilarducci said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the U.S. Corps of Engineers was asked to lead the effort last year because state resources were stretched thin after responding to more than a dozen wildfires. This year, he said state officials can manage the cleanup, and costs will be shared among state, federal and local authorities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cleanup is expected to begin in January and take about a year to complete. State and federal officials are currently removing hazardous household materials from the damaged properties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>___\u003cbr>\nAssociated Press writer Paul Elias in San Francisco contributed to this story.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11712264/insurance-claims-at-9-billion-from-recent-california-fires","authors":["byline_news_11712264"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_6266","news_8"],"tags":["news_20341","news_24483","news_24489","news_24336","news_22753","news_4463","news_24487"],"featImg":"news_11712283","label":"news_72"},"news_11710128":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11710128","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11710128","score":null,"sort":[1544059579000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"with-wildfire-crisis-hanging-over-capitol-lawmakers-start-rolling-out-proposals","title":"With Wildfire Crisis Hanging Over Capitol, Lawmakers Start Rolling Out Proposals","publishDate":1544059579,"format":"image","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Lawmakers introduced bills this week to improve emergency alerts and create a council tasked with wide-ranging responsibilities around preparing California for fires — the first of what seems \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11709053/lawmakers-after-yet-more-wildfires-what-now-for-pge\">likely to be a series of 2019 proposals tackling the state's wildfire crisis\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the proposals — a \u003ca href=\"http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB38\">wide-ranging bill by Assemblyman Jim Wood\u003c/a> whose district stretches from Santa Rosa north to the Oregon border — would create new building standards for construction in high fire hazard zones, and create a state fund to help homeowners finance fire safety improvements.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'It goes back to that old adage — an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We haven't focused on prevention enough.'\u003ccite>Assemblyman Jim Wood\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>The proposals come just three months after Wood and other lawmakers wrapped up weeks of hearings on the state's wildfire policies, which resulted in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11689873/california-legislature-passes-major-reforms-to-wildfire-law\">package of bills\u003c/a> signed by Gov. Jerry Brown. But before many of those laws could even take effect, California was hit by two devastating fires, including \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11705243/california-wildfires-what-you-need-to-know\">the most destructive and deadly blaze in state history\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I imagine there will be a pretty big emphasis on this, and there should be,\" Wood said, noting that his bill is aimed at preventing and limiting fires. \"It goes back to that old adage — an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We haven't focused on prevention enough.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But lawmakers are also grappling with how to respond to blazes once they break out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, the one year anniversary of the devastating Thomas Fire in her Santa Barbara district, Sen. Hannah Beth Jackson introduced \u003ca href=\"http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB46\">a bill that would make it easier\u003c/a> for local governments and colleges to obtain contact information for their residents for the purpose of issuing emergency alerts.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11709037/cpuc-orders-pge-to-implement-safety-improvements-amid-stormy-meeting\">CPUC Orders PG&E to Implement Safety Improvements Amid Stormy Meeting\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11709037/cpuc-orders-pge-to-implement-safety-improvements-amid-stormy-meeting\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/RS33930_111318_AW_CampFire_17-qut-1180x787.jpg\" alt=\"\" />\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Senate Bill 46 would build on another law Jackson authored, which takes effect in January and gives county governments access to resident's contact information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first bill allowed counties to access utility bills to get that contact information. SB 46 not only gives cities, universities and colleges access to the information as well, but also allows government agencies to access wireless company records to get that information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson said she's trying to tackle a problem that has arisen in every major fire in the past year: Most California residents \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11644154/north-bay-fires-what-took-authorities-so-long-to-warn-people\">have not signed up for emergency alert systems\u003c/a> offered by their local government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So rather than have people opt-in to the system — we've discovered that people just don't — we are going opt them in. They will have a right to opt out ... but we will try to automatically get them into a system, so that they get these emergency alerts in real time,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson's bill would also let social service agencies give counties, cities and colleges information about people who are elderly or have disabilities, \"so that we know who the people are that require the most support and assistance in being able to escape,\" Jackson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11710371\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11710371 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1289\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-800x537.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-1020x685.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-1200x806.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" />\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A search and rescue crew member searches for human remains at a mobile home park that was destroyed by the Camp Fire on November 21, 2018 in Paradise, California. Senate Bill 46 would let social service agencies give counties, cities and colleges information about people who need extra assistance in order to escape from future fires, such as those who are elderly or have disabilities. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Assemblyman Wood's North Bay district was also scarred by fire in 2017. The bill he introduced Monday goes well beyond emergency alerts, and would create a new body to oversee how communities plan for wildfires and how they respond once fires break out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Community Fire Preparedness Council created under Assembly Bill 38 would be responsible for reviewing local wildfire plans, developing best practices for alerts and evacuations and organizing fire drills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If we establish a council like this, it makes pretty clear that this is a big, big statewide priority — and that sends a very strong message,\" Wood said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It becomes the umbrella organization for local community fire preparedness councils ... California is an extremely diverse state, and having a council that can be helpful with resources and overarching policies, and then giving regional and community fire councils the ability to have flexibility to do what's best in their communities is big part of why it's structured this way.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The council would also be tasked with tackling one of the most intransigent issues of the wildfire debate: How to encourage or even require more fire-resistant buildings throughout the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wood wants to create a new revolving loan fund that would offer no- or low-interest loans for homeowners to replace or install \"fire-hardening\" features. Wood said that would include things like fire-resistant roofing.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11710160/nearly-a-month-after-camp-fire-some-paradise-residents-can-finally-go-home\">Nearly a Month After Camp Fire, Some Paradise Residents Can Finally Go Home\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11710160/nearly-a-month-after-camp-fire-some-paradise-residents-can-finally-go-home\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/EvacueeDog-1180x776.jpg\" alt=\"\" />\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Additionally, AB 38 would require the state Community Fire Preparedness Council to develop a list of construction features that must be retrofitted, or built into new construction in high fire severity zones. These features, once approved, would be required for all homes and commercial buildings starting Jan. 1, 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wood acknowledged that the state telling local communities or residents how or where to build could anger some Californians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, he said, \"I think the time is right to have these discussions.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's not without controversy. People own land and want to do with it what they deem fit, but I also believe you have a responsibility as a landowner to make sure you protect your neighbors,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawmakers will likely be faced with a number of tough choices over fire prevention, preparedness and response in 2019. Thousands of Butte County residents remain homeless in the aftermath of the Camp Fire, which killed at least 85 people and destroyed more than 18,000 buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of the discussion will be around more immediate relief for the survivors of the Camp Fire and Woolsey Fire, which killed three people and burned more than 1,500 structures in Ventura and Los Angeles Counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, Assemblyman Jim Gallagher, who represents portions of Butte County, introduced two bills this week aimed at putting more state funds towards helping recovery in the communities impacted by the Camp Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But lawmakers will also have to tackle more controversial questions around wildfire liability and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11706641/californias-chief-regulator-calls-for-review-of-pges-structure\">future of the state's utilities\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"California lawmakers unveiled the first 2019 legislation dealing with wildfires this week, with more sure to come. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1544059579,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":1082},"headData":{"title":"With Wildfire Crisis Hanging Over Capitol, Lawmakers Start Rolling Out Proposals | KQED","description":"California lawmakers unveiled the first 2019 legislation dealing with wildfires this week, with more sure to come. 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We haven't focused on prevention enough.'\u003ccite>Assemblyman Jim Wood\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>The proposals come just three months after Wood and other lawmakers wrapped up weeks of hearings on the state's wildfire policies, which resulted in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11689873/california-legislature-passes-major-reforms-to-wildfire-law\">package of bills\u003c/a> signed by Gov. Jerry Brown. But before many of those laws could even take effect, California was hit by two devastating fires, including \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11705243/california-wildfires-what-you-need-to-know\">the most destructive and deadly blaze in state history\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I imagine there will be a pretty big emphasis on this, and there should be,\" Wood said, noting that his bill is aimed at preventing and limiting fires. \"It goes back to that old adage — an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We haven't focused on prevention enough.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But lawmakers are also grappling with how to respond to blazes once they break out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, the one year anniversary of the devastating Thomas Fire in her Santa Barbara district, Sen. Hannah Beth Jackson introduced \u003ca href=\"http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB46\">a bill that would make it easier\u003c/a> for local governments and colleges to obtain contact information for their residents for the purpose of issuing emergency alerts.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11709037/cpuc-orders-pge-to-implement-safety-improvements-amid-stormy-meeting\">CPUC Orders PG&E to Implement Safety Improvements Amid Stormy Meeting\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11709037/cpuc-orders-pge-to-implement-safety-improvements-amid-stormy-meeting\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/RS33930_111318_AW_CampFire_17-qut-1180x787.jpg\" alt=\"\" />\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Senate Bill 46 would build on another law Jackson authored, which takes effect in January and gives county governments access to resident's contact information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first bill allowed counties to access utility bills to get that contact information. SB 46 not only gives cities, universities and colleges access to the information as well, but also allows government agencies to access wireless company records to get that information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson said she's trying to tackle a problem that has arisen in every major fire in the past year: Most California residents \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11644154/north-bay-fires-what-took-authorities-so-long-to-warn-people\">have not signed up for emergency alert systems\u003c/a> offered by their local government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So rather than have people opt-in to the system — we've discovered that people just don't — we are going opt them in. They will have a right to opt out ... but we will try to automatically get them into a system, so that they get these emergency alerts in real time,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson's bill would also let social service agencies give counties, cities and colleges information about people who are elderly or have disabilities, \"so that we know who the people are that require the most support and assistance in being able to escape,\" Jackson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11710371\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11710371 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1289\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-800x537.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-1020x685.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/GettyImages-1070764782-1-e1544057494409-1200x806.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" />\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A search and rescue crew member searches for human remains at a mobile home park that was destroyed by the Camp Fire on November 21, 2018 in Paradise, California. Senate Bill 46 would let social service agencies give counties, cities and colleges information about people who need extra assistance in order to escape from future fires, such as those who are elderly or have disabilities. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Assemblyman Wood's North Bay district was also scarred by fire in 2017. The bill he introduced Monday goes well beyond emergency alerts, and would create a new body to oversee how communities plan for wildfires and how they respond once fires break out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Community Fire Preparedness Council created under Assembly Bill 38 would be responsible for reviewing local wildfire plans, developing best practices for alerts and evacuations and organizing fire drills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If we establish a council like this, it makes pretty clear that this is a big, big statewide priority — and that sends a very strong message,\" Wood said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It becomes the umbrella organization for local community fire preparedness councils ... California is an extremely diverse state, and having a council that can be helpful with resources and overarching policies, and then giving regional and community fire councils the ability to have flexibility to do what's best in their communities is big part of why it's structured this way.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The council would also be tasked with tackling one of the most intransigent issues of the wildfire debate: How to encourage or even require more fire-resistant buildings throughout the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wood wants to create a new revolving loan fund that would offer no- or low-interest loans for homeowners to replace or install \"fire-hardening\" features. Wood said that would include things like fire-resistant roofing.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11710160/nearly-a-month-after-camp-fire-some-paradise-residents-can-finally-go-home\">Nearly a Month After Camp Fire, Some Paradise Residents Can Finally Go Home\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11710160/nearly-a-month-after-camp-fire-some-paradise-residents-can-finally-go-home\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/EvacueeDog-1180x776.jpg\" alt=\"\" />\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Additionally, AB 38 would require the state Community Fire Preparedness Council to develop a list of construction features that must be retrofitted, or built into new construction in high fire severity zones. These features, once approved, would be required for all homes and commercial buildings starting Jan. 1, 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wood acknowledged that the state telling local communities or residents how or where to build could anger some Californians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, he said, \"I think the time is right to have these discussions.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's not without controversy. People own land and want to do with it what they deem fit, but I also believe you have a responsibility as a landowner to make sure you protect your neighbors,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawmakers will likely be faced with a number of tough choices over fire prevention, preparedness and response in 2019. Thousands of Butte County residents remain homeless in the aftermath of the Camp Fire, which killed at least 85 people and destroyed more than 18,000 buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of the discussion will be around more immediate relief for the survivors of the Camp Fire and Woolsey Fire, which killed three people and burned more than 1,500 structures in Ventura and Los Angeles Counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, Assemblyman Jim Gallagher, who represents portions of Butte County, introduced two bills this week aimed at putting more state funds towards helping recovery in the communities impacted by the Camp Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But lawmakers will also have to tackle more controversial questions around wildfire liability and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11706641/californias-chief-regulator-calls-for-review-of-pges-structure\">future of the state's utilities\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11710128/with-wildfire-crisis-hanging-over-capitol-lawmakers-start-rolling-out-proposals","authors":["3239"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_13","news_356"],"tags":["news_2704","news_20341","news_24483","news_212","news_24606","news_24605","news_2960","news_17041","news_22132","news_4463","news_24487"],"featImg":"news_11710368","label":"news_72"},"news_11707186":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11707186","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11707186","score":null,"sort":[1542556828000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-offers-safe-space-for-firefighters-to-work-through-stress-and-trauma","title":"California Offers Safe Space For Firefighters to Work Through Stress and Trauma","publishDate":1542556828,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>On the morning of his 23rd birthday, Leonel Salas is just getting off the fireline after battling the Woolsey Fire all night in Southern California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"[We] can't get any rest while we're on the lines,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He's exhausted after working for 24 hours, but relieved to be at the base camp in Camarillo where there are hot meals, sleeping pods and mobile showers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Salas and his crew have been on the job for over a week now. When he got the call to head out to the fire he didn't even have the chance to say goodbye to his parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I hate to compare it to military, but it's similar to that because one minute you could be [home] and then all of a sudden, you're gone.\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fighting fires has been compared to the military in another way — the stress that soldiers go through. In fact, \u003ca href=\"https://www.fireengineering.com/content/dam/fe/online-articles/documents/2016/iaff-ptsd-cancer-8-16.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a report\u003c/a> by the International Association of Firefighters found that firefighters experience PTSD at rates similar to what's seen in combat veterans. The \u003ca href=\"http://rudermanfoundation.org/white_papers/police-officers-and-firefighters-are-more-likely-to-die-by-suicide-than-in-line-of-duty/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ruderman Family Foundation\u003c/a> has identified another startling trend: last year, more firefighters died by suicide than in the line of duty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So fire officials are trying new ways to alleviate the stress of overworked firefighters and change the culture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Changing fire seasons, changing protocols\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Salas vividly remembers last year when he was in Northern California fighting the month-long Carr Fire. He saw people's homes destroyed in seconds. It made him pause and think about what if he lost his own home. But besides property destruction, firefighters see other things nobody wants to see or talk about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's some things that we see that's basically beyond us that we can't really help,\" Salas adds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The firefighter and first responder culture can encourage a kind of stoicism that makes it hard for many firefighters to open up about trauma they face.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The culture's always been, you know, suppress suppress, suppress,\" says Cal Fire captain Kevin Malloy. \"We're good and go on to the next call.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But California fire season is changing; it's become longer and more destructive. Firefighters are now fighting massive wildfires back to back. The cumulative stress of it all can take a toll on a firefighter's mental health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2015, Cal Fire noticed the need to provide immediate support to firefighters and first responders in the field during the Valley Fire, a wildfire that torched parts of Lake County and Napa County in Northern California for more than a month, and destroyed 1,995 structures and 76,067 acres. That's when Cal Fire first placed a peer-support team at a basecamp, and that practice has continued.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Having each others' backs\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the Woolsey fire basecamp where Salas and other firefighters recuperate, a mobile trailer with a sign reading \"PEER SUPPORT\" is set up among the sleeping pods, medics and the mapping center. Cal Fire set it up on the fifth day of the Woolsey Fire to provide a safe, confidential space for firefighters to talk to chaplains and fellow first responders — and to pet emotional support dogs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Captain Malloy is part of the peer support team. He jokes, \"Sometimes people like to see the dogs more than they like to see us, but that's okay.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the peer support members are also there to just lend an ear to anyone who needs it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are good listeners,\" Malloy says. \"That's our job.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some common symptoms he says he sees in firefighters are lack of sleep, grief, sadness and frustration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What we tell those individuals is, those are normal reactions to an abnormal situation,\" says Malloy. He and the others also offer suggestions on how to cope, ranging from controlled breathing exercises to warning firefighters not to consume alcohol on their day off, and making sure to get adequate sleep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But if a firefighter needs extra help, the team will refer them to see a mental health specialist and make sure that they'll have the support they need when they get home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the end of his shift, Salas takes a few bags of food over to the picnic tables. He says he doesn't need peer support right now. But he says firefighters aren't heroes. They aren't invulnerable to the things they experience on the job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're human at the end of the day,\" Salas adds. \"We go through a lot of the same things that a lot of the citizens are going through as well.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So he's glad the support trailer is there with fellow firefighters who have his back in case he ever does need it. \u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2018 KPCC. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.kpcc.org/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">KPCC\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=California+Offers+Safe+Space+For+Firefighters+To+Work+Through+Stress+And+Trauma&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Now that wildfires are a year-round problem in California, officials are adding emotional support to the services they provide to firefighters in the field.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1542567102,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":27,"wordCount":798},"headData":{"title":"California Offers Safe Space For Firefighters to Work Through Stress and Trauma | KQED","description":"Now that wildfires are a year-round problem in California, officials are adding emotional support to the services they provide to firefighters in the field.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"California Offers Safe Space For Firefighters to Work Through Stress and Trauma","datePublished":"2018-11-18T16:00:28.000Z","dateModified":"2018-11-18T18:51:42.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11707186 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11707186","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/11/18/california-offers-safe-space-for-firefighters-to-work-through-stress-and-trauma/","disqusTitle":"California Offers Safe Space For Firefighters to Work Through Stress and Trauma","source":"NPR","sourceUrl":"https://www.npr.org/","nprImageCredit":"John Locher","nprByline":"Alyssa Jeong Perry","nprImageAgency":"AP","nprStoryId":"668770583","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=668770583&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2018/11/17/668770583/california-offers-safe-space-for-firefighters-to-work-through-stress-and-trauma?ft=nprml&f=668770583","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Sat, 17 Nov 2018 19:40:00 -0500","nprStoryDate":"Sat, 17 Nov 2018 18:26:01 -0500","nprLastModifiedDate":"Sat, 17 Nov 2018 18:26:01 -0500","nprAudio":"https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/atc/2018/11/20181117_atc_california_offers_safe_space_for_firefighters_to_work_through_stress_and_trauma.mp3?orgId=144&topicId=1029&d=234&p=2&story=668770583&ft=nprml&f=668770583","nprAudioM3u":"http://api.npr.org/m3u/1668953550-bc10ed.m3u?orgId=144&topicId=1029&d=234&p=2&story=668770583&ft=nprml&f=668770583","audioTrackLength":235,"path":"/news/11707186/california-offers-safe-space-for-firefighters-to-work-through-stress-and-trauma","audioUrl":"https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/atc/2018/11/20181117_atc_california_offers_safe_space_for_firefighters_to_work_through_stress_and_trauma.mp3?orgId=144&topicId=1029&d=234&p=2&story=668770583&ft=nprml&f=668770583","parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>On the morning of his 23rd birthday, Leonel Salas is just getting off the fireline after battling the Woolsey Fire all night in Southern California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"[We] can't get any rest while we're on the lines,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He's exhausted after working for 24 hours, but relieved to be at the base camp in Camarillo where there are hot meals, sleeping pods and mobile showers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Salas and his crew have been on the job for over a week now. When he got the call to head out to the fire he didn't even have the chance to say goodbye to his parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I hate to compare it to military, but it's similar to that because one minute you could be [home] and then all of a sudden, you're gone.\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fighting fires has been compared to the military in another way — the stress that soldiers go through. In fact, \u003ca href=\"https://www.fireengineering.com/content/dam/fe/online-articles/documents/2016/iaff-ptsd-cancer-8-16.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a report\u003c/a> by the International Association of Firefighters found that firefighters experience PTSD at rates similar to what's seen in combat veterans. The \u003ca href=\"http://rudermanfoundation.org/white_papers/police-officers-and-firefighters-are-more-likely-to-die-by-suicide-than-in-line-of-duty/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ruderman Family Foundation\u003c/a> has identified another startling trend: last year, more firefighters died by suicide than in the line of duty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So fire officials are trying new ways to alleviate the stress of overworked firefighters and change the culture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Changing fire seasons, changing protocols\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Salas vividly remembers last year when he was in Northern California fighting the month-long Carr Fire. He saw people's homes destroyed in seconds. It made him pause and think about what if he lost his own home. But besides property destruction, firefighters see other things nobody wants to see or talk about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's some things that we see that's basically beyond us that we can't really help,\" Salas adds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The firefighter and first responder culture can encourage a kind of stoicism that makes it hard for many firefighters to open up about trauma they face.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The culture's always been, you know, suppress suppress, suppress,\" says Cal Fire captain Kevin Malloy. \"We're good and go on to the next call.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But California fire season is changing; it's become longer and more destructive. Firefighters are now fighting massive wildfires back to back. The cumulative stress of it all can take a toll on a firefighter's mental health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2015, Cal Fire noticed the need to provide immediate support to firefighters and first responders in the field during the Valley Fire, a wildfire that torched parts of Lake County and Napa County in Northern California for more than a month, and destroyed 1,995 structures and 76,067 acres. That's when Cal Fire first placed a peer-support team at a basecamp, and that practice has continued.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Having each others' backs\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the Woolsey fire basecamp where Salas and other firefighters recuperate, a mobile trailer with a sign reading \"PEER SUPPORT\" is set up among the sleeping pods, medics and the mapping center. Cal Fire set it up on the fifth day of the Woolsey Fire to provide a safe, confidential space for firefighters to talk to chaplains and fellow first responders — and to pet emotional support dogs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Captain Malloy is part of the peer support team. He jokes, \"Sometimes people like to see the dogs more than they like to see us, but that's okay.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the peer support members are also there to just lend an ear to anyone who needs it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We are good listeners,\" Malloy says. \"That's our job.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some common symptoms he says he sees in firefighters are lack of sleep, grief, sadness and frustration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What we tell those individuals is, those are normal reactions to an abnormal situation,\" says Malloy. He and the others also offer suggestions on how to cope, ranging from controlled breathing exercises to warning firefighters not to consume alcohol on their day off, and making sure to get adequate sleep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But if a firefighter needs extra help, the team will refer them to see a mental health specialist and make sure that they'll have the support they need when they get home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the end of his shift, Salas takes a few bags of food over to the picnic tables. He says he doesn't need peer support right now. But he says firefighters aren't heroes. They aren't invulnerable to the things they experience on the job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're human at the end of the day,\" Salas adds. \"We go through a lot of the same things that a lot of the citizens are going through as well.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So he's glad the support trailer is there with fellow firefighters who have his back in case he ever does need it. \u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2018 KPCC. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.kpcc.org/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">KPCC\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=California+Offers+Safe+Space+For+Firefighters+To+Work+Through+Stress+And+Trauma&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11707186/california-offers-safe-space-for-firefighters-to-work-through-stress-and-trauma","authors":["byline_news_11707186"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8"],"tags":["news_17041","news_4463","news_24487"],"featImg":"news_11707187","label":"source_news_11707186"},"news_11706219":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11706219","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11706219","score":null,"sort":[1542328245000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"more-than-1000-inmate-firefighters-are-helping-battle-camp-woolsey-blazes","title":"More Than 1,000 Inmate Firefighters Are Helping Battle Camp, Woolsey Blazes","publishDate":1542328245,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Close to 1,400 inmate firefighters have been deployed to battle the massive wildfires burning on both sides of California, according to state prison and fire officials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of them, about 1,000, have been assigned to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11705243/california-wildfires-what-you-need-to-know\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Camp Fire\u003c/a> burning in Butte County, the most destructive and deadliest wildfire on state record. Around 400 are working the \u003ca href=\"http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/2282\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Woolsey Fire\u003c/a> in Ventura and Los Angeles counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Already some of them have suffered serious injuries. Two inmate firefighters are among the five firefighters who sustained serious burns during the first 24 hours of the Camp Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two prisoners, along with a fire captain, were burned \"while preplanning and preparing for a firing operation\" last Thursday afternoon, according to an initial report — known as a Blue Sheet — published by Cal Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The injuries took place in the town of Paradise, said Vicky Waters, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A 27-year-old inmate received burns to 3 percent of his body, and was treated and released from an outside hospital, according to Waters. A 30-year-old inmate sustained minor injuries and was also released from the hospital.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waters said both inmates were released to the state prison system and are in good condition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California's Division of Occupational Safety and Health launched investigations into the incident on Wednesday, according to agency spokesman Frank Polizzi.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State corrections officials say inmate firefighters are paid an average of $2 a day when they're in fire camps and an additional $1 an hour when they're assigned to an active fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Inmate firefighters are often called to help Cal Fire battle big blazes annually.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CDCR has said the inmate firefighting program can save the state up to $100 million a year. Prison officials note that inmates who volunteer as firefighters can get time off their sentences, and they emphasize that injuries to prison firefighters are rare.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11686212/rare-honors-this-weekend-for-inmate-firefighters-killed-on-the-job\">Rare Honors for Inmate Firefighters Killed on the Job\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11686212/rare-honors-this-weekend-for-inmate-firefighters-killed-on-the-job\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/20705394_1495912958.3739.jpeg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>But in the last 18 months, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11686212/rare-honors-this-weekend-for-inmate-firefighters-killed-on-the-job\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">three California prison firefighters were killed on the job\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those deaths, and in general the use of inmates to help the state battle big blazes, have renewed criticism from criminal justice advocates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If these prisoners can be trusted to be running around outside with axes and chainsaws, maybe they didn't need to be in prison in the first place,\" said David Fathi, director of the ACLU's National Prison Project.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most prisoners want to work, and jobs for inmates can be a very positive thing, Fathi said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"But given the vast power disparity between prisoners and their employers, there is also a real risk of exploitation and abuse,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fathi said inmates are a uniquely vulnerable workforce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's very little in prison that is truly voluntary. So when prisoners 'volunteer' for dangerous work like fighting wildfires, it's critical to ensure that they're making a free and uncoerced choice, a choice that is fully informed about the risks and dangers of the work they're agreeing to do.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some critics claim that inmate firefighters are not allowed to work for Cal Fire after they're released from prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prison officials say that's not true. They say having a felony conviction does not disqualify a person from employment with Cal Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's very unfortunate that there is so much misinformation out there,\" Waters said in an email, pointing to a \u003ca href=\"https://www.insidecdcr.ca.gov/2018/07/2-former-fenner-canyon-fire-camp-inmates-tell-of-success-in-finding-cal-fire-jobs/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">press release\u003c/a> the agency put out over the summer, highlighting that two former inmates got jobs at Cal Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State officials have yet to respond to questions about their rules associated with employing inmate firefighters after they're released from state prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/science/2014/07/25/california-leans-heavily-on-thousands-of-inmate-firefighters/\">KQED has profiled inmate firefighting crews\u003c/a> in the past, and produced the following video detailing their work.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://vimeo.com/101666018\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In the last 18 months, three California prison firefighters were killed on the job. Those deaths and, more broadly, the use of inmates to help the state battle big blazes, have renewed criticism from criminal justice advocates.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1542331586,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":637},"headData":{"title":"More Than 1,000 Inmate Firefighters Are Helping Battle Camp, Woolsey Blazes | KQED","description":"In the last 18 months, three California prison firefighters were killed on the job. 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Around 400 are working the \u003ca href=\"http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/2282\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Woolsey Fire\u003c/a> in Ventura and Los Angeles counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Already some of them have suffered serious injuries. Two inmate firefighters are among the five firefighters who sustained serious burns during the first 24 hours of the Camp Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two prisoners, along with a fire captain, were burned \"while preplanning and preparing for a firing operation\" last Thursday afternoon, according to an initial report — known as a Blue Sheet — published by Cal Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The injuries took place in the town of Paradise, said Vicky Waters, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A 27-year-old inmate received burns to 3 percent of his body, and was treated and released from an outside hospital, according to Waters. A 30-year-old inmate sustained minor injuries and was also released from the hospital.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waters said both inmates were released to the state prison system and are in good condition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California's Division of Occupational Safety and Health launched investigations into the incident on Wednesday, according to agency spokesman Frank Polizzi.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State corrections officials say inmate firefighters are paid an average of $2 a day when they're in fire camps and an additional $1 an hour when they're assigned to an active fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Inmate firefighters are often called to help Cal Fire battle big blazes annually.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CDCR has said the inmate firefighting program can save the state up to $100 million a year. Prison officials note that inmates who volunteer as firefighters can get time off their sentences, and they emphasize that injuries to prison firefighters are rare.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11686212/rare-honors-this-weekend-for-inmate-firefighters-killed-on-the-job\">Rare Honors for Inmate Firefighters Killed on the Job\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11686212/rare-honors-this-weekend-for-inmate-firefighters-killed-on-the-job\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/20705394_1495912958.3739.jpeg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>But in the last 18 months, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11686212/rare-honors-this-weekend-for-inmate-firefighters-killed-on-the-job\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">three California prison firefighters were killed on the job\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those deaths, and in general the use of inmates to help the state battle big blazes, have renewed criticism from criminal justice advocates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If these prisoners can be trusted to be running around outside with axes and chainsaws, maybe they didn't need to be in prison in the first place,\" said David Fathi, director of the ACLU's National Prison Project.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most prisoners want to work, and jobs for inmates can be a very positive thing, Fathi said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"But given the vast power disparity between prisoners and their employers, there is also a real risk of exploitation and abuse,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fathi said inmates are a uniquely vulnerable workforce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There's very little in prison that is truly voluntary. So when prisoners 'volunteer' for dangerous work like fighting wildfires, it's critical to ensure that they're making a free and uncoerced choice, a choice that is fully informed about the risks and dangers of the work they're agreeing to do.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some critics claim that inmate firefighters are not allowed to work for Cal Fire after they're released from prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prison officials say that's not true. They say having a felony conviction does not disqualify a person from employment with Cal Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's very unfortunate that there is so much misinformation out there,\" Waters said in an email, pointing to a \u003ca href=\"https://www.insidecdcr.ca.gov/2018/07/2-former-fenner-canyon-fire-camp-inmates-tell-of-success-in-finding-cal-fire-jobs/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">press release\u003c/a> the agency put out over the summer, highlighting that two former inmates got jobs at Cal Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State officials have yet to respond to questions about their rules associated with employing inmate firefighters after they're released from state prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/science/2014/07/25/california-leans-heavily-on-thousands-of-inmate-firefighters/\">KQED has profiled inmate firefighting crews\u003c/a> in the past, and produced the following video detailing their work.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"vimeoLink","attributes":{"named":{"vimeoId":"101666018"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11706219/more-than-1000-inmate-firefighters-are-helping-battle-camp-woolsey-blazes","authors":["258"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8"],"tags":["news_6383","news_24483","news_21241","news_17041","news_4463","news_24487"],"featImg":"news_11706656","label":"news_72"},"news_11705903":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11705903","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11705903","score":null,"sort":[1542068629000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"megafires-more-frequent-because-of-climate-change-and-forest-management","title":"Megafires More Frequent Because Of Climate Change And Forest Management","publishDate":1542068629,"format":"standard","headTitle":"NPR | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/wildfires/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Follow KQED's ongoing wildfire coverage.\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Strong, dry winds are expected to continue through the early part of this week in California as the state battles several wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11705243/california-wildfires-what-you-need-to-know\">Camp Fire in Northern California\u003c/a>, which started Thursday, is the state's most destructive fire ever, scorching more than 113,000 \u003ca href=\"http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents\">acres \u003c/a>north of Sacramento and killing 29 people so far, according to state officials on Monday. In Southern California, officials say the Woolsey Fire, which also started Thursday, has killed at least two people and burned more than 91,000 acres.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the weekend President Trump twice \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061168803218948096\">tweeted \u003c/a>that the \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061554334276747264\">fires \u003c/a>were the result of poor forest management, threatening to withhold federal aid if the problem wasn't remedied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061168803218948096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 10, 2018\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>California Gov. Jerry Brown, who has asked the White House for a \"major disaster declaration,\" hit back at the president on Sunday \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAVF-SWaPOQ\">during a news conference\u003c/a>. He said forest management is only one element of preventing forest fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Managing all the forests in every way we can does not stop climate change and those who deny that are definitely contributing to the tragedies that we are now witnessing and will continue to witness,\" Brown said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scientists who study fire agree and say both a changing climate as well as how people have managed forests has created a new environment for big fires to thrive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The global average temperature is more than 1 degree Fahrenheit higher than it used to be before the Industrial Revolution. And in a dry climate more heat equals more drying. Meaning: The hot dry air literally sucks the moisture out of the ground and out of vegetation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"And it doesn't take much,\" says Jennifer Balch, a fire ecologist at the University of Colorado. \"With just a little bit of drying you get a substantial increase in the amount of burning.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, the number of large fires across the Western U.S. has increased five-fold since the 1970s, says Balch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-12-at-4.18.07-PM.png\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11705918\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-12-at-4.18.07-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"802\" height=\"558\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-12-at-4.18.07-PM.png 802w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-12-at-4.18.07-PM-160x111.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-12-at-4.18.07-PM-800x557.png 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 802px) 100vw, 802px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scientists say the warming climate has already caused a smaller snowpack in California's mountains as well as a reduction in the amount of fog that rolls in off the Pacific Ocean. Both lead to drier vegetation, says Balch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Human carelessness has also contributed to increased fire activity in the West, says Balch, noting that 84 percent of wildfires in the U.S. in the past two decades have been started by people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They're also putting themselves more at risk, she says. \"We ... have more and more people moving, literally building homes, in the line of fire,\" says Balch. \"And today there are about 1.8 million homes at high fire risk across the Western U.S.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to wildfires becoming more frequent — California's fire season is almost year-round now — scientists have also found that the fires are becoming bigger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's relentless, says Malcolm North, an ecologist with the U.S. Forest Service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In much of California we're getting to a pretty much year-round fire season as in the past it used to be limited to five or six months out of the year,\" says North.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dry weather and strong winds also mean that what would have been small fires in the past are now monster fires that both damage trees and climb up into the canopy and kill whole forests, says North. This is due in part to the fact that forest managers have spent the last century putting out every fire they could, even small, natural fires, he says, and the forests have became choked with too much overgrowth, making them ready to burn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additionally, North says hurdles such as steep slopes, protected wildlife and complaints from homeowners about smoke limit how much federal and state mangers can thin or do controlled burns in forests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Literally probably 80 to 90 percent of these dry, mid-elevation forests are chock-full of fuels that really drives high intensity fire,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/\">http://www.npr.org/\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Megafires+More+Frequent+Because+Of+Climate+Change+And+Forest+Management&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Dry weather and strong winds mean that what would have been small blazes in the past are now monster fires. And more people live in harm's way.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1542144190,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":23,"wordCount":725},"headData":{"title":"Megafires More Frequent Because Of Climate Change And Forest Management | KQED","description":"Dry weather and strong winds mean that what would have been small blazes in the past are now monster fires. 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In Southern California, officials say the Woolsey Fire, which also started Thursday, has killed at least two people and burned more than 91,000 acres.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the weekend President Trump twice \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061168803218948096\">tweeted \u003c/a>that the \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061554334276747264\">fires \u003c/a>were the result of poor forest management, threatening to withhold federal aid if the problem wasn't remedied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061168803218948096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 10, 2018\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>California Gov. Jerry Brown, who has asked the White House for a \"major disaster declaration,\" hit back at the president on Sunday \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAVF-SWaPOQ\">during a news conference\u003c/a>. He said forest management is only one element of preventing forest fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Managing all the forests in every way we can does not stop climate change and those who deny that are definitely contributing to the tragedies that we are now witnessing and will continue to witness,\" Brown said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scientists who study fire agree and say both a changing climate as well as how people have managed forests has created a new environment for big fires to thrive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The global average temperature is more than 1 degree Fahrenheit higher than it used to be before the Industrial Revolution. And in a dry climate more heat equals more drying. Meaning: The hot dry air literally sucks the moisture out of the ground and out of vegetation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"And it doesn't take much,\" says Jennifer Balch, a fire ecologist at the University of Colorado. \"With just a little bit of drying you get a substantial increase in the amount of burning.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, the number of large fires across the Western U.S. has increased five-fold since the 1970s, says Balch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-12-at-4.18.07-PM.png\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11705918\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-12-at-4.18.07-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"802\" height=\"558\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-12-at-4.18.07-PM.png 802w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-12-at-4.18.07-PM-160x111.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-12-at-4.18.07-PM-800x557.png 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 802px) 100vw, 802px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scientists say the warming climate has already caused a smaller snowpack in California's mountains as well as a reduction in the amount of fog that rolls in off the Pacific Ocean. Both lead to drier vegetation, says Balch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Human carelessness has also contributed to increased fire activity in the West, says Balch, noting that 84 percent of wildfires in the U.S. in the past two decades have been started by people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They're also putting themselves more at risk, she says. \"We ... have more and more people moving, literally building homes, in the line of fire,\" says Balch. \"And today there are about 1.8 million homes at high fire risk across the Western U.S.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to wildfires becoming more frequent — California's fire season is almost year-round now — scientists have also found that the fires are becoming bigger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's relentless, says Malcolm North, an ecologist with the U.S. Forest Service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In much of California we're getting to a pretty much year-round fire season as in the past it used to be limited to five or six months out of the year,\" says North.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dry weather and strong winds also mean that what would have been small fires in the past are now monster fires that both damage trees and climb up into the canopy and kill whole forests, says North. This is due in part to the fact that forest managers have spent the last century putting out every fire they could, even small, natural fires, he says, and the forests have became choked with too much overgrowth, making them ready to burn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additionally, North says hurdles such as steep slopes, protected wildlife and complaints from homeowners about smoke limit how much federal and state mangers can thin or do controlled burns in forests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Literally probably 80 to 90 percent of these dry, mid-elevation forests are chock-full of fuels that really drives high intensity fire,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/\">http://www.npr.org/\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Megafires+More+Frequent+Because+Of+Climate+Change+And+Forest+Management&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11705903/megafires-more-frequent-because-of-climate-change-and-forest-management","authors":["byline_news_11705903"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_356"],"tags":["news_22754","news_24483","news_255","news_1323","news_3187","news_4463","news_24487"],"affiliates":["news_253"],"featImg":"news_11705904","label":"source_news_11705903"},"news_11705553":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11705553","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11705553","score":null,"sort":[1541899422000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"disturbance-occurred-at-socal-edison-substation-moments-before-woolsey-fire-started","title":"'Disturbance' Occurred at SoCal Edison Substation Moments Before Woolsey Fire Started","publishDate":1541899422,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/wildfires/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Follow KQED's ongoing wildfire coverage.\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The utility company Southern California Edison has told state regulators that there was an outage tied to one of its substations two minutes before the Woolsey Fire is believed to have started in Ventura County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The facility, known as the Chatsworth Substation, is located near the area where the massive blaze is believed to have ignited, just south of Simi Valley. According to an incident report the company filed with the California Public Utilities Commission, a circuit \"relayed\" at 2:22 p.m. on Thursday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When a circuit relays, [it] senses a disturbance on the circuit and switches the circuit off,\" said Sally Jeung, a spokeswoman for Edison. Jeung, reached by phone on Saturday, said she did not know what triggered the circuit's sensor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cal Fire says the Woolsey Fire started just two minutes later, at approximately 2:24 p.m.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's unclear if the \"disturbance\" that led to the outage was a contributing factor in sparking the Woolsey Fire, if the fire itself caused the disturbance, or if they are unrelated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State fire officials say the fire started in the area of Alfa Road, south of Simi Valley. According to a CPUC map of utility infrastructure in the area, the Chatsworth Substation is located just south of Simi Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705615\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11705615 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom-800x353.png\" alt=\"A California Public Utilities Commission map of utility infrastructure in Southern California shows the Chatsworth Substation located just south of Simi Valley, in the area fire officials believe the Woolsey Fire began.\" width=\"800\" height=\"353\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom-800x353.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom-160x71.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom-1020x450.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom-1200x530.png 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom.png 1513w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A California Public Utilities Commission map of utility infrastructure in Southern California shows the Chatsworth Substation located just south of Simi Valley, in the area fire officials believe the Woolsey Fire began. \u003ccite>(California Public Utilities Commission)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As of Saturday afternoon, the blaze has scorched 70,000 acres and caused an immense amount of destruction in Ventura and Los Angeles Counties. The fire has \u003ca href=\"http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-woolsey-fire-oak-park-20181109-story.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">forced some 200,000 people\u003c/a> from their homes, and an unknown number of structures have been destroyed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Edison says it submitted its initial electricity safety \u003ca href=\"https://www.edison.com/content/dam/eix/documents/Woolsey_Electric_Safety_Report.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">report\u003c/a> \"out of an abundance of caution as it may meet the subject of significant public attention.\" The report said the utility's crews have not been able to access its facilities in the area where the fire began, and there are no signs its infrastructure caused the blaze.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"At this point we have no indication from fire agency personnel that SCE utility facilities may have been involved in the start of the fire,\" the report said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ventura County Fire Capt. Brian McGrath said it was too early to jump to assumptions about whether Edison's outage could be tied to the cause of the blaze.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's so early in the incident. We can't say how important or if it's important. We have to be patient,\" McGrath said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I'm sure investigators will look at it. Right now we're focused on saving lives,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Representatives for Cal Fire did not respond to a request for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>News of Edison's report comes after word that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11705306/pge-transmission-line-may-be-tied-to-disastrous-butte-county-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pacific Gas and Electric notified the CPUC\u003c/a> that it experienced an incident early Thursday on a major electrical transmission line at a remote site in Butte County minutes before the reported start of the Camp Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The commission is reviewing both reports, according to agency spokeswoman Terrie Prosper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"CPUC staff will incorporate Edison's incident report into its investigation to assess the compliance of electric facilities with applicable rules and regulations in fire impacted areas,\" Prosper said in an emailed statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Edison says it will fully cooperate with fire investigators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Hill and Woolsey fires have damaged the utility company's equipment and lines, and led to outages, according to a company \u003ca href=\"https://newsroom.edison.com/releases/sce-update-on-hill-and-woolsey-wildfires\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">press release\u003c/a>. The utility is unable, currently, to assess that damage using air patrols because of flight restrictions due to firefighting in the area, the utility said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last month, Edison announced that its equipment \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11702621/southern-california-utility-says-its-equipment-helped-spark-huge-thomas-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">likely sparked\u003c/a> one of two ignition points for the massive Thomas Fire, which burned more than 280,000 acres and destroyed more than 1,000 structures in Santa Barbara and Ventura counties last year.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Investigators and regulators say it's too early to say if the incident could be tied to the Woolsey Fire.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1542154811,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":660},"headData":{"title":"'Disturbance' Occurred at SoCal Edison Substation Moments Before Woolsey Fire Started | KQED","description":"Investigators and regulators say it's too early to say if the incident could be tied to the Woolsey Fire.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"'Disturbance' Occurred at SoCal Edison Substation Moments Before Woolsey Fire Started","datePublished":"2018-11-11T01:23:42.000Z","dateModified":"2018-11-14T00:20:11.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11705553 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11705553","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/11/10/disturbance-occurred-at-socal-edison-substation-moments-before-woolsey-fire-started/","disqusTitle":"'Disturbance' Occurred at SoCal Edison Substation Moments Before Woolsey Fire Started","path":"/news/11705553/disturbance-occurred-at-socal-edison-substation-moments-before-woolsey-fire-started","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/wildfires/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Follow KQED's ongoing wildfire coverage.\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The utility company Southern California Edison has told state regulators that there was an outage tied to one of its substations two minutes before the Woolsey Fire is believed to have started in Ventura County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The facility, known as the Chatsworth Substation, is located near the area where the massive blaze is believed to have ignited, just south of Simi Valley. According to an incident report the company filed with the California Public Utilities Commission, a circuit \"relayed\" at 2:22 p.m. on Thursday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When a circuit relays, [it] senses a disturbance on the circuit and switches the circuit off,\" said Sally Jeung, a spokeswoman for Edison. Jeung, reached by phone on Saturday, said she did not know what triggered the circuit's sensor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cal Fire says the Woolsey Fire started just two minutes later, at approximately 2:24 p.m.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's unclear if the \"disturbance\" that led to the outage was a contributing factor in sparking the Woolsey Fire, if the fire itself caused the disturbance, or if they are unrelated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State fire officials say the fire started in the area of Alfa Road, south of Simi Valley. According to a CPUC map of utility infrastructure in the area, the Chatsworth Substation is located just south of Simi Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11705615\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11705615 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom-800x353.png\" alt=\"A California Public Utilities Commission map of utility infrastructure in Southern California shows the Chatsworth Substation located just south of Simi Valley, in the area fire officials believe the Woolsey Fire began.\" width=\"800\" height=\"353\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom-800x353.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom-160x71.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom-1020x450.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom-1200x530.png 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/11/Chatsworth-Map-Zoom.png 1513w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A California Public Utilities Commission map of utility infrastructure in Southern California shows the Chatsworth Substation located just south of Simi Valley, in the area fire officials believe the Woolsey Fire began. \u003ccite>(California Public Utilities Commission)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As of Saturday afternoon, the blaze has scorched 70,000 acres and caused an immense amount of destruction in Ventura and Los Angeles Counties. The fire has \u003ca href=\"http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-woolsey-fire-oak-park-20181109-story.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">forced some 200,000 people\u003c/a> from their homes, and an unknown number of structures have been destroyed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Edison says it submitted its initial electricity safety \u003ca href=\"https://www.edison.com/content/dam/eix/documents/Woolsey_Electric_Safety_Report.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">report\u003c/a> \"out of an abundance of caution as it may meet the subject of significant public attention.\" The report said the utility's crews have not been able to access its facilities in the area where the fire began, and there are no signs its infrastructure caused the blaze.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"At this point we have no indication from fire agency personnel that SCE utility facilities may have been involved in the start of the fire,\" the report said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ventura County Fire Capt. Brian McGrath said it was too early to jump to assumptions about whether Edison's outage could be tied to the cause of the blaze.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's so early in the incident. We can't say how important or if it's important. We have to be patient,\" McGrath said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I'm sure investigators will look at it. Right now we're focused on saving lives,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Representatives for Cal Fire did not respond to a request for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>News of Edison's report comes after word that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11705306/pge-transmission-line-may-be-tied-to-disastrous-butte-county-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pacific Gas and Electric notified the CPUC\u003c/a> that it experienced an incident early Thursday on a major electrical transmission line at a remote site in Butte County minutes before the reported start of the Camp Fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The commission is reviewing both reports, according to agency spokeswoman Terrie Prosper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"CPUC staff will incorporate Edison's incident report into its investigation to assess the compliance of electric facilities with applicable rules and regulations in fire impacted areas,\" Prosper said in an emailed statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Edison says it will fully cooperate with fire investigators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Hill and Woolsey fires have damaged the utility company's equipment and lines, and led to outages, according to a company \u003ca href=\"https://newsroom.edison.com/releases/sce-update-on-hill-and-woolsey-wildfires\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">press release\u003c/a>. 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