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Mayor Lurie has vowed the city will protect immigrants. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Shafer\u003c/strong>: You mentioned the meeting in the Castro with Deputy Chief Derrick Lew, where he responded to questions about the role or the responsibility that SFPD has when it comes to protesters and ICE. What was it about his answer that concerns you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fielder: \u003c/strong>What’s concerning is that there’s an equivalency being made between ICE, which is armed, and protesters, who are not. And ICE agents can protect themselves with pepper spray, their guns, their vehicles, their armor as they did July 8.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We have sanctuary city laws. [Lew] was basically also comparing ICE with CHP, where ICE is treated differently by our sanctuary laws. We have prohibited our employees from cooperating with ICE. We cannot prevent them from coming into San Francisco, we cannot prevent them from detaining and deporting people, but what we can do is ensure that they are identifying themselves. We can ensure that they’re following due process and, of course, abiding by our basic local public safety and traffic laws.[aside postID=news_12047506 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/250609-SEIUProtests-07-BL_qed.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Shafer:\u003c/strong> One of the things that Lew said was, essentially, “We can’t just sit by and watch our fellow law enforcement agent or officer get hurt.” Are you saying that, actually, “Yes, you can, and you should step aside and let them defend themselves?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fielder:\u003c/strong> According to the department’s own directives, they’re allowed to intervene in any federal immigration actions when it appears reasonably necessary to prevent serious injury to persons, whether or not a crime is actively happening. That also has to be reconciled with our sanctuary city law, where we’re not allowed to assist ICE or agents for routine operations, investigations or raids. And so I want SFPD to be transparent with their protocols and decision-making for whether they’re going to intervene in a situation or not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Shafer:\u003c/strong> Can you see a role for SFPD in “keeping the peace” and putting themselves between the protesters and the ICE agents?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fielder: \u003c/strong>Again, SFPD has to intervene wherever there is a threat to people’s safety. And that has to be applied everywhere. What I’m not seeing is questions around how they’re going to protect unarmed and largely defenseless protesters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Shafer:\u003c/strong> The city is undergoing a search to hire a new police chief, and I would guess that one of the candidates internally could be Lew. Would you say that his comments are disqualifying for him to be the next chief?\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12043437\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12043437\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/250609-SEIUPROTESTS-22-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/250609-SEIUPROTESTS-22-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/250609-SEIUPROTESTS-22-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/250609-SEIUPROTESTS-22-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Demonstrators rally outside the California State Building in San Francisco on June 9, 2025, calling for the release of SEIU California President David Huerta. Huerta was arrested by federal agents on June 6 in Los Angeles while serving as a community observer during a workplace Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) raid. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fielder: \u003c/strong>I would hope that the next chief takes seriously what they say and communicate around our sanctuary city policies. It’s baffling to me that anyone in leadership would equate our protesters with Trump’s armed ICE agents. They should be seen as an extension of Trump himself. They are carrying out his agenda. And their agenda is to instill fear, is to run roughshod over due process and basic constitutional protections.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Shafer:\u003c/strong> It seems like Lurie has been very \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12023569/lurie-tiptoes-around-trump-as-sf-leaders-challenge-executive-orders\">cautious about even mentioning Trump’s name\u003c/a>. He has said that the city will protect immigrants. What would you like to see him do or say that so far he has not?[aside postID=news_12047397 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/immigration-protest-1020x680.jpeg']\u003cstrong>Fielder:\u003c/strong> I think he could be doing more. He could be saying more. Every single elected leader in our city has made a public stand to honor our sanctuary city laws. He will not say the word sanctuary. He will not mention Trump. And I don’t think it’s a practice that is actually saving us from any repercussions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are other examples across the country of mayors standing up. For example, Mayor [Michelle] Wu in Boston is filing FOIA requests to try to seek some answers on who exactly ICE is detaining in Boston. The point here is compliance. And by not saying a ton about our sanctuary laws, by not mentioning Trump, I think it just gives them exactly what they want.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here in San Francisco, where we have a large immigrant population, that means that ICE is picking up family, neighbors, friends. These are not people with criminal histories. They are mothers, they’re fathers, they’re sisters and, even at some points, children. And so, SFPD leadership, whoever the next police chief is, has to take this responsibility seriously and take our sanctuary city laws seriously as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Shafer:\u003c/strong> When you came into office, you went out of your way to extend an olive branch to Lurie. Is there still a reservoir of goodwill with the mayor?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fielder:\u003c/strong> I’m never gonna close my door to people who change their minds. I’m always open to the possibility of people coming around again. 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