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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>This story is part of \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/affordability\">\u003cstrong>\u003cem>How We Get By\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cem>, a KQED series exploring how people are coping with rising costs in the Bay Area and California. Find the \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/affordability\">\u003cem>full series here\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For some San Franciscans, giving up space and privacy is a worthwhile trade for affordable rent. At Brownstone Shared \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/housing\">Housing\u003c/a>, residents take that tradeoff to the extreme, paying $700 per month for a bunk bed in a room with 30 other adults in the heart of downtown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brownstone is a sleeping pod company. Pods have been around San Francisco for over a decade, but they are having a moment as droves of tech workers flock to one of the world’s most expensive cities, chasing AI fortunes. They have been characterized as everything from \u003ca href=\"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/san-francisco-brownstone-sleeping-pods-b2885522.html\">dystopian\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.deanprestonsf.com/blog/are-sleeping-pods-even-legal\">potentially illegal\u003c/a> to an \u003ca href=\"https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/start-up-sets-up-sleeping-pods-at-site-of-former-bank-in-san-francisco/\">affordable\u003c/a> housing solution — and they have proven popular among some young professionals, who say pods offer them an efficient, simple housing option.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some housing experts are skeptical that sleeping pods can provide anything more than a short-term stopgap for a narrow group of residents navigating the housing crisis in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s kind of silly to think we’re going to need a single-family home at every point of our life, from birth ‘til death,” Brownstone CEO James Stallworth said. “So that’s how I see the pods, more as a utility to fill in the gaps in life, understanding that we’ll always need shelter.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At his company’s Mint Plaza location, people are sold on the simple offer. For $700, each resident is guaranteed a twin-sized sleeping pod with a privacy curtain, a thermostat and a light, as well as access to a central common area with a small kitchen, workspaces and bathrooms split between roughly 30 roommates. No deposit. No one-year lease. No background checks or proof of income.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city has long been known for a variety of group living quarters, from hacker houses to hippie communes to residential hotels. But as the cost of living and a tech-fueled economy have drawn young people from all over to San Francisco in more recent years, various models of dormitory-style housing have entered a new iteration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080130\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080130\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_017-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_017-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_017-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_017-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The exterior of Brownstone Shared Housing in San Francisco on April 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>One of the earliest pod sites to arrive on the scene was PodShare, a co-living company founded in 2012 that has properties in San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other companies attempting something similar, like \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/haasliving/\">Haas Living\u003c/a>, have come and gone. But Brownstone is the only one looking to dramatically expand into the market with a massive 400-bed super dorm downtown. Stallworth sees the current AI boom as a potential funnel of new residents for whom pod living might be ideal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our goal is still thousands of spots in the city, and potentially hundreds of thousands in the nation,” Stallworth said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tech workers embarking on their careers, and especially students, say they’re feeling the squeeze and looking for creative housing options.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Life inside the pods\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Haseab Ullah first tucked his tall, broad frame into one of Brownstone’s sleeping pods, located in a former bank building in Mint Plaza, while participating in a tech incubator program in 2023. After bouncing between San Francisco and Toronto, his hometown, he’s spent about two years living in the pods and is still there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said he’s stayed because he has an “aversion” to spending the money he earns inefficiently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I first came to San Francisco, I wasn’t ready to stay. I just came for the incubator. I didn’t feel ready, and I didn’t think I had enough money,” he said recently, in a conference room in the back of Brownstone’s main common area, a modern space with exposed brick walls, a projector screen and large cushioned chairs. Elements of the building’s former bank still remain, such as a teller counter that now functions as a row of stations where residents can work remotely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080128\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080128\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_012-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_012-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_012-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_012-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Haseab Ullah, a resident, uses his laptop in the common area at Brownstone Shared Housing on April 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>After seeing Brownstone online, he said he messaged the owner on several different platforms, including Facebook, Twitter and Craigslist to lock in a bed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This reporter spent several nights and days living the pod life at Mint Plaza and met several residents who told KQED they arrived at Brownstone for reasons similar to Ullah’s. They were moving to the city from out of town, or out of the country, either to start or find a job, and needed a cheap place to get their footing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the most part, residents go about their days quietly and IRL interactions are friendly but brief, while the house WhatsApp group buzzes with recommendations for local tech events or occasional complaints about missing food or clothing. From what this reporter observed, the common areas were sparsely populated, with the exception of one or two people clicking away at their laptops.[aside postID=news_12079098 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041226Affordability-series-teacher-housing_GH_002_qed.jpg']“Of course, you do have people who only need a month, and then they’re out. And then you have some who are more social and interact with people, and then you have people who just kind of keep to themselves and you never really hear from them,” Stallworth said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Personal space is hard to come by. The bunk curtains offer some semblance of privacy, and first-come, first-served unlocked storage cubbies give the illusion of security, while a small room in the common space can be reserved for calls or meetings. But other private needs, like changing clothes, take place either in the pod, a restroom or between the bunk beds — a practice that quickly became uncomfortable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s also not an ideal home for someone who enjoys cooking. A small kitchenette offers a sink, a countertop burner, a toaster oven and an air fryer. The fridge and cabinets operate on an honor system and a “use the space you can find” approach. While the lack of rules and boundaries gives people freedom to do as they please, it also means pantry items go missing on occasion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stolen leftovers are not unique to Brownstone, of course. But what sets it and other sleeping pods apart from other group living setups like co-ops or hacker houses is not only the extremely tight living quarters but their very solitary, often transient nature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The average apartment in San Francisco is 716 square feet, about 8% larger than a decade ago, according to a 2025 study from \u003ca href=\"https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/rental-market/market-snapshots/national-average-apartment-size/\">RentCafe\u003c/a>, while rent on average in the city is currently at $3,650 per month, according to Zillow. Meanwhile, the pods at Brownstone in Mint Plaza have just enough space to lie down and sit up, but not fully extend both arms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080485\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080485\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-Sleeping-Pod-SJ-01-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1500\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-Sleeping-Pod-SJ-01-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-Sleeping-Pod-SJ-01-KQED-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-Sleeping-Pod-SJ-01-KQED-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The inside of a sleeping pod at Brownstone Shared Housing on March 16, 2026. \u003ccite>(Sydney Johnson/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Pods clearly appeal to some people; they are often near capacity at Mint Plaza with guests moving in and out. But pod life was certainly not for this 32-year-old woman, who is candidly skeptical of AI and missed sleeping with her dog.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it certainly would not be suitable for all kinds of people, like those with certain disabilities or who want to live with a partner. (One Brownstone resident said he books a hotel when his girlfriend is in town, which is starting to outweigh the savings from staying in a pod.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s certainly not a permanent home in the sense that you expect to come and stay here for the rest of your natural life. We see it as a utility to satisfy that need at different points in life that currently aren’t served by the existing housing stock,” Stallworth said. “We have had older people use the pods if they are traveling for long-term work assignments or they got their visa, and their family isn’t here yet, so there’s all sorts of different points in life where you might need a pod.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Rebranding an old concept\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Fernando Martí, a housing activist who teaches at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo and the University of San Francisco, thinks pods are merely a rebranding of a centuries-old concept.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Big cities have always had residential hotels. That’s where workers first came to the city and needed a place to stay,” Martí said. “I don’t think it’s anything new, other than the branding and the cost.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080125\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080125\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_006-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_006-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_006-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_006-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">James Stallworth walks toward the sleeping pod area of Brownstone Shared Housing on April 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Sleeping pods are not a new concept outside of California, but are often geared toward travelers looking for cheap short-term accommodations. Stallworth is trying to cultivate a longer-term clientele, whether it’s a few months or even a few years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But while pods aren’t set up for seniors on fixed incomes and families with children, who bear the brunt of the housing crisis, according to Carolina Reid, a professor in affordable housing and urban policy at the University of California, Berkeley, single-room occupancy (SRO) hotels continue to serve them.[aside postID=news_12078480 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/AffordabilitySeriesIntro_Lede.jpg']These short-term micro-housing units with shared bathrooms and kitchen spaces have been a common source of affordable housing for generations of newcomers to San Francisco, and, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://www.pew.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2025/07/how-states-and-cities-decimated-americans-lowest-cost-housing-option\">Pew Charitable Trusts report\u003c/a>, were used to rent for as low as $100 to $300 per month in 2025 dollars. Today, monthly rent in an SRO in San Francisco costs, on \u003ca href=\"https://projects.sfplanning.org/community-stabilization/sro-hotel-protections.htm#:~:text=The%20total%20average%20rent%20for,neighborhoods%20for%20renting%20SRO%20units\">average, around $900\u003c/a>, according to the San Francisco Planning Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In stark contrast to the pods, SROs in San Francisco’s most densely packed neighborhoods have become de facto permanent housing for the city’s lowest-income residents, as the stock of extremely affordable housing has diminished.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To me, there’s this question of, is [a sleeping pod] a primary residence?” said Malcolm Yeung, CEO of Chinatown Community Development Center, which manages a portfolio of SROs in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While SROs went from primarily serving as stopgap housing to a permanent place to live, Charlotte Sarfati didn’t think she could do the same in a sleeping pod. She reached her personal limit at nine months after staying in different pod buildings, like Haas Living, before moving to a one-bedroom apartment in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Especially with having a full-time job, it starts kind of getting to you just being around people and wanting privacy,” the nurse-turned-tech worker said. “Once you feel the drain of working a 9-to-5, it became a little too much for me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Riding the AI wave\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>With its minimalistic \u003ca href=\"https://www.theverge.com/2016/8/3/12325104/airbnb-aesthetic-global-minimalism-startup-gentrification\">AirSpace\u003c/a> aesthetic, Brownstone is actively catering to Safrati’s demographic: residents in their 20s to early 40s, with many current residents telling KQED they work in tech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the 400-pod megadorm that Brownstone is trying to launch, the same twin-sized pods would go for $1,200 per month, about $500 more than the Mint Plaza location. Stallworth said that’s simply a reflection of the market, which has seen rents go up this year in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re making a lot more money per square foot than a studio would be,” Martí said. “And that’s always been the case, right? Developers make more money on studios than they do on two-bedrooms because if you can cram more little studios, you can earn a lot more.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080129\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080129\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_014-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_014-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_014-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_014-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A common area with seating and a projector screen is seen inside Brownstone Shared Housing on April 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In other words, cramming more people into smaller spaces is a simple way to squeeze money out of more renters. The market for sleeping pods, currently valued at around $2.7 billion in 2026, is growing globally, according to \u003ca href=\"https://www.businessresearchinsights.com/market-reports/sleeping-pod-market-104352\">Business Research Insights\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>House prices have nearly tripled in San Francisco in the recovery following the Great Recession, according to Reid. As a result, households that are cost burdened have gone from those making under $50,000 per year to now close to $100,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is really making San Francisco a place that only the extremely rich can afford,” Reid said. “It means affordability pressures are moving up the income ladder, just because of the lack of both rental and affordable home ownership opportunities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stallworth, 34, got the idea for Brownstone while he was a student at Stanford University, facing his own housing struggles in the 2010s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080447\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080447\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026Affordability_-Sleeping-Pods_GH_002_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026Affordability_-Sleeping-Pods_GH_002_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026Affordability_-Sleeping-Pods_GH_002_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026Affordability_-Sleeping-Pods_GH_002_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">James Stallworth, co-founder of Brownstone Shared Housing, on April 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I was crashing on couches and trying to make it work, but it was extremely difficult,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stallworth ended up living for free in the basement of a hacker house stacked with Ikea bunk beds in exchange for helping run the booking system. He met his co-founder, Christina Lennox, while working as an auditor for the state. She had experience as a landlord, and the two wanted to create an alternative to what they saw on the housing market.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Housing is a barrier to opportunities,” Stallworth said. “In Silicon Valley, we like to pretend that it’s a meritocracy, but access to housing is mostly determined by money.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Business hasn’t all been smooth, and the company’s relationship with the city has been rocky.[aside postID=news_12078615 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260320-KOGURACOMPANY00242_TV-KQED.jpg']Last year, Brownstone was hit with an eviction notice after landlords of the Mint Plaza location said the startup failed to pay rent and allegedly owed more than $150,000. The case was later dismissed, and the company said it would pivot to a franchise model.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, Brownstone is not officially approved to operate the 30-pod building in Mint Plaza, according to Dan Sider, chief of staff for the San Francisco Planning Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s now attempting to move forward with its 400-pod facility along mid-Market. \u003ca href=\"https://brownstone.live/market-street\">Video renderings\u003c/a> show rows of dozens of rectangular bunk beds in a cavernous office-like space. Sider said no permits have been sought or granted for the proposed new space, which has already faced criticism for serving more as a warehouse than housing and has raised questions about how such a site could safely and legally house so many people under one roof.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Sider said the city is open to working with Brownstone on the project.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“At the end of the day, Brownstone is building new places for people to live. We support that wholeheartedly. Especially so in these cases because their projects would activate underused buildings,” Sider said. “It’s also worth noting that, regarding their Mid-Market proposal, we’ve had encouraging preliminary conversations with Brownstone that suggest a departure from the ‘ask for forgiveness rather than permission’ approach they used at Mint Plaza.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>New legislation that took effect last year in San Francisco waived impact fees for residential adaptive reuse projects like Brownstone’s buildings, meaning it does not have to contribute funding to the city’s overall affordable housing goals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether Brownstone can scale up remains to be seen. One day in the Mint Plaza location, Stallworth himself was taking out trash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080126\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080126\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_007-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_007-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_007-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_007-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A dry-erase board displaying house rules is posted near the sleeping pod area at Brownstone Shared Housing on April 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Another key question: Is there enough of a market for the pods, especially at a steeper price, to sustain an enterprise like Brownstone long term? While the swelling AI industry has drawn workers to San Francisco, the current bubble could just as quickly pop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The housing crisis is so severe that we need to be experimenting with lots of different models,” Reid said. “But I’m not sure that it is a long-term solution to San Francisco’s housing crisis, just because my hunch is that nobody wants to stay in a pod permanently.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For residents like Ullah, who spends much of his time working on the various tech projects he has brewing, saving money is worth giving up some space. He’s not actively looking to move right now, as rents have only gone up in San Francisco in recent months. But in theory, he said, he’d take a better option if something came along.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Of course, if there was a better option, if the housing situation in San Francisco was better, I would pick that option,” he said. “But I thought about it like, will I compromise on my housing right now, temporarily, in order to be successful in the future? Absolutely.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s kind of silly to think we’re going to need a single-family home at every point of our life, from birth ‘til death,” Brownstone CEO James Stallworth said. “So that’s how I see the pods, more as a utility to fill in the gaps in life, understanding that we’ll always need shelter.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At his company’s Mint Plaza location, people are sold on the simple offer. For $700, each resident is guaranteed a twin-sized sleeping pod with a privacy curtain, a thermostat and a light, as well as access to a central common area with a small kitchen, workspaces and bathrooms split between roughly 30 roommates. No deposit. No one-year lease. No background checks or proof of income.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city has long been known for a variety of group living quarters, from hacker houses to hippie communes to residential hotels. But as the cost of living and a tech-fueled economy have drawn young people from all over to San Francisco in more recent years, various models of dormitory-style housing have entered a new iteration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080130\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080130\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_017-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_017-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_017-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_017-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The exterior of Brownstone Shared Housing in San Francisco on April 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>One of the earliest pod sites to arrive on the scene was PodShare, a co-living company founded in 2012 that has properties in San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other companies attempting something similar, like \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/haasliving/\">Haas Living\u003c/a>, have come and gone. But Brownstone is the only one looking to dramatically expand into the market with a massive 400-bed super dorm downtown. Stallworth sees the current AI boom as a potential funnel of new residents for whom pod living might be ideal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our goal is still thousands of spots in the city, and potentially hundreds of thousands in the nation,” Stallworth said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tech workers embarking on their careers, and especially students, say they’re feeling the squeeze and looking for creative housing options.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Life inside the pods\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Haseab Ullah first tucked his tall, broad frame into one of Brownstone’s sleeping pods, located in a former bank building in Mint Plaza, while participating in a tech incubator program in 2023. After bouncing between San Francisco and Toronto, his hometown, he’s spent about two years living in the pods and is still there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said he’s stayed because he has an “aversion” to spending the money he earns inefficiently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I first came to San Francisco, I wasn’t ready to stay. I just came for the incubator. I didn’t feel ready, and I didn’t think I had enough money,” he said recently, in a conference room in the back of Brownstone’s main common area, a modern space with exposed brick walls, a projector screen and large cushioned chairs. 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The fridge and cabinets operate on an honor system and a “use the space you can find” approach. While the lack of rules and boundaries gives people freedom to do as they please, it also means pantry items go missing on occasion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stolen leftovers are not unique to Brownstone, of course. But what sets it and other sleeping pods apart from other group living setups like co-ops or hacker houses is not only the extremely tight living quarters but their very solitary, often transient nature.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The average apartment in San Francisco is 716 square feet, about 8% larger than a decade ago, according to a 2025 study from \u003ca href=\"https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/rental-market/market-snapshots/national-average-apartment-size/\">RentCafe\u003c/a>, while rent on average in the city is currently at $3,650 per month, according to Zillow. Meanwhile, the pods at Brownstone in Mint Plaza have just enough space to lie down and sit up, but not fully extend both arms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080485\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080485\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-Sleeping-Pod-SJ-01-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1500\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-Sleeping-Pod-SJ-01-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-Sleeping-Pod-SJ-01-KQED-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-Sleeping-Pod-SJ-01-KQED-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The inside of a sleeping pod at Brownstone Shared Housing on March 16, 2026. \u003ccite>(Sydney Johnson/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Pods clearly appeal to some people; they are often near capacity at Mint Plaza with guests moving in and out. But pod life was certainly not for this 32-year-old woman, who is candidly skeptical of AI and missed sleeping with her dog.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it certainly would not be suitable for all kinds of people, like those with certain disabilities or who want to live with a partner. (One Brownstone resident said he books a hotel when his girlfriend is in town, which is starting to outweigh the savings from staying in a pod.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s certainly not a permanent home in the sense that you expect to come and stay here for the rest of your natural life. 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That’s where workers first came to the city and needed a place to stay,” Martí said. “I don’t think it’s anything new, other than the branding and the cost.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080125\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080125\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_006-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_006-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_006-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_006-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">James Stallworth walks toward the sleeping pod area of Brownstone Shared Housing on April 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Sleeping pods are not a new concept outside of California, but are often geared toward travelers looking for cheap short-term accommodations. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>These short-term micro-housing units with shared bathrooms and kitchen spaces have been a common source of affordable housing for generations of newcomers to San Francisco, and, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://www.pew.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2025/07/how-states-and-cities-decimated-americans-lowest-cost-housing-option\">Pew Charitable Trusts report\u003c/a>, were used to rent for as low as $100 to $300 per month in 2025 dollars. Today, monthly rent in an SRO in San Francisco costs, on \u003ca href=\"https://projects.sfplanning.org/community-stabilization/sro-hotel-protections.htm#:~:text=The%20total%20average%20rent%20for,neighborhoods%20for%20renting%20SRO%20units\">average, around $900\u003c/a>, according to the San Francisco Planning Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In stark contrast to the pods, SROs in San Francisco’s most densely packed neighborhoods have become de facto permanent housing for the city’s lowest-income residents, as the stock of extremely affordable housing has diminished.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To me, there’s this question of, is [a sleeping pod] a primary residence?” said Malcolm Yeung, CEO of Chinatown Community Development Center, which manages a portfolio of SROs in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While SROs went from primarily serving as stopgap housing to a permanent place to live, Charlotte Sarfati didn’t think she could do the same in a sleeping pod. She reached her personal limit at nine months after staying in different pod buildings, like Haas Living, before moving to a one-bedroom apartment in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Especially with having a full-time job, it starts kind of getting to you just being around people and wanting privacy,” the nurse-turned-tech worker said. “Once you feel the drain of working a 9-to-5, it became a little too much for me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Riding the AI wave\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>With its minimalistic \u003ca href=\"https://www.theverge.com/2016/8/3/12325104/airbnb-aesthetic-global-minimalism-startup-gentrification\">AirSpace\u003c/a> aesthetic, Brownstone is actively catering to Safrati’s demographic: residents in their 20s to early 40s, with many current residents telling KQED they work in tech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the 400-pod megadorm that Brownstone is trying to launch, the same twin-sized pods would go for $1,200 per month, about $500 more than the Mint Plaza location. Stallworth said that’s simply a reflection of the market, which has seen rents go up this year in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re making a lot more money per square foot than a studio would be,” Martí said. “And that’s always been the case, right? Developers make more money on studios than they do on two-bedrooms because if you can cram more little studios, you can earn a lot more.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080129\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080129\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_014-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_014-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_014-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_014-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A common area with seating and a projector screen is seen inside Brownstone Shared Housing on April 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In other words, cramming more people into smaller spaces is a simple way to squeeze money out of more renters. The market for sleeping pods, currently valued at around $2.7 billion in 2026, is growing globally, according to \u003ca href=\"https://www.businessresearchinsights.com/market-reports/sleeping-pod-market-104352\">Business Research Insights\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>House prices have nearly tripled in San Francisco in the recovery following the Great Recession, according to Reid. As a result, households that are cost burdened have gone from those making under $50,000 per year to now close to $100,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is really making San Francisco a place that only the extremely rich can afford,” Reid said. “It means affordability pressures are moving up the income ladder, just because of the lack of both rental and affordable home ownership opportunities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stallworth, 34, got the idea for Brownstone while he was a student at Stanford University, facing his own housing struggles in the 2010s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080447\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080447\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026Affordability_-Sleeping-Pods_GH_002_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026Affordability_-Sleeping-Pods_GH_002_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026Affordability_-Sleeping-Pods_GH_002_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026Affordability_-Sleeping-Pods_GH_002_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">James Stallworth, co-founder of Brownstone Shared Housing, on April 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I was crashing on couches and trying to make it work, but it was extremely difficult,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stallworth ended up living for free in the basement of a hacker house stacked with Ikea bunk beds in exchange for helping run the booking system. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Last year, Brownstone was hit with an eviction notice after landlords of the Mint Plaza location said the startup failed to pay rent and allegedly owed more than $150,000. The case was later dismissed, and the company said it would pivot to a franchise model.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, Brownstone is not officially approved to operate the 30-pod building in Mint Plaza, according to Dan Sider, chief of staff for the San Francisco Planning Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s now attempting to move forward with its 400-pod facility along mid-Market. \u003ca href=\"https://brownstone.live/market-street\">Video renderings\u003c/a> show rows of dozens of rectangular bunk beds in a cavernous office-like space. Sider said no permits have been sought or granted for the proposed new space, which has already faced criticism for serving more as a warehouse than housing and has raised questions about how such a site could safely and legally house so many people under one roof.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Sider said the city is open to working with Brownstone on the project.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“At the end of the day, Brownstone is building new places for people to live. We support that wholeheartedly. Especially so in these cases because their projects would activate underused buildings,” Sider said. “It’s also worth noting that, regarding their Mid-Market proposal, we’ve had encouraging preliminary conversations with Brownstone that suggest a departure from the ‘ask for forgiveness rather than permission’ approach they used at Mint Plaza.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>New legislation that took effect last year in San Francisco waived impact fees for residential adaptive reuse projects like Brownstone’s buildings, meaning it does not have to contribute funding to the city’s overall affordable housing goals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether Brownstone can scale up remains to be seen. One day in the Mint Plaza location, Stallworth himself was taking out trash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080126\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080126\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_007-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_007-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_007-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041026AFFORDABILITY_-SLEEPING-PODS_GH_007-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A dry-erase board displaying house rules is posted near the sleeping pod area at Brownstone Shared Housing on April 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Another key question: Is there enough of a market for the pods, especially at a steeper price, to sustain an enterprise like Brownstone long term? While the swelling AI industry has drawn workers to San Francisco, the current bubble could just as quickly pop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The housing crisis is so severe that we need to be experimenting with lots of different models,” Reid said. “But I’m not sure that it is a long-term solution to San Francisco’s housing crisis, just because my hunch is that nobody wants to stay in a pod permanently.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For residents like Ullah, who spends much of his time working on the various tech projects he has brewing, saving money is worth giving up some space. He’s not actively looking to move right now, as rents have only gone up in San Francisco in recent months. But in theory, he said, he’d take a better option if something came along.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Of course, if there was a better option, if the housing situation in San Francisco was better, I would pick that option,” he said. “But I thought about it like, will I compromise on my housing right now, temporarily, in order to be successful in the future? Absolutely.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Former state Controller Betty Yee said Monday that she is ending her campaign \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/california-governors-race\">for California governor\u003c/a>, bowing to pressure from party leaders urging nonviable candidates to drop out of a fractured Democratic field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee ran \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12073301/former-state-controller-betty-yee-says-shes-the-best-gubernatorial-candidate-to-fix-californias-budget-deficit\">on a platform of fiscal accountability\u003c/a>, drawing on her experience managing the state’s finances and tax system as controller and a member of the Board of Equalization. She spent months polling in the single digits, never managing to break through the crowded race, despite \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12074494/california-democrats-leave-governors-race-unsettled-as-gaza-fight-looms\">finishing second\u003c/a> in the state party’s endorsement vote in February.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In her announcement on Monday morning, Yee said her decision to drop out of the race was influenced by flagging poll numbers and the loss of donors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What has changed is the whole notion that voters are looking for experience and competence is not a top priority — and that’s been really my wheelhouse,” Yee said. “It really just came down to where I’m not going to have sufficient resources to get us to the finish line.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her exit comes roughly a week after the leading Democratic candidate, East Bay Rep. Eric Swalwell, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12079583/eric-swalwell-ends-california-governor-campaign-after-sexual-assault-allegations\">dropped out\u003c/a> of the race and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12079800/eric-swalwell-allegations-resign-congress-california-governor-race-who-is-running-primary\">resigned\u003c/a> his House seat following\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12079502/rep-eric-swalwell-candidate-for-california-governor-is-accused-of-sexual-assault\"> accusations of sexual assault\u003c/a> and misconduct from former staffers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His abrupt departure reshuffled the race, as \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12080415/california-governor-candidates-compete-for-swalwells-endorsements-donors-and-voters\">remaining contenders scramble\u003c/a> for his endorsements, donors and supporters — and greatly reduced the chances of two Republicans advancing through California’s top-two primary in June, according to \u003ca href=\"https://twins-production-9381.up.railway.app/\">a model\u003c/a> created by Political Data Inc. vice president Paul Mitchell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12071100\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12071100\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/01/260226-GOVRACEFORUM-04-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/01/260226-GOVRACEFORUM-04-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/01/260226-GOVRACEFORUM-04-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/01/260226-GOVRACEFORUM-04-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Former U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Xavier Becerra speaks during a gubernatorial candidate forum at the UCSF Mission Bay campus in San Francisco on Jan. 26, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Xavier Becerra, who served as Health and Human Services secretary under President Joe Biden, saw a \u003ca href=\"https://cadem.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/4.20.26-CA-Voter-Index-Tracking-Survey-II-Topline.pdf\">bump in polling\u003c/a>, putting him at the front of the Democratic field alongside billionaire investor and climate activist Tom Steyer. Steyer also landed endorsements from the California Teachers Association and Our Revolution, a progressive organization founded by Sen. Bernie Sanders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former Orange County Rep. Katie Porter picked up an endorsement on Monday from Rep. Robert Garcia, the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee, however, did not appear to be among the beneficiaries of the reshaped race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She had first announced her \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11958502/betty-yee-on-a-lifetime-of-running-the-numbers\">intent to run\u003c/a> in 2023, hoping to become California’s first woman and person of color elected governor.[aside postID=news_12080415 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/02/CAGovDebateAP1.jpg']“I think one of the disappointments I will carry from this campaign is, where was my community? And I think we had an opportunity to make history,” Yee said. “I did not see them there as I had robustly in the past with respect to my donors.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee grew up in San Francisco, the daughter of Chinese immigrants and the second oldest of six kids. In \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12073301/former-state-controller-betty-yee-says-shes-the-best-gubernatorial-candidate-to-fix-californias-budget-deficit\">a February interview\u003c/a> discussing her campaign with KQED’s Political Breakdown, she described helping manage the books for her parents’ laundry and dry cleaning business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Every week, my father would hand me a cigar box of the receipts, and I’d add up what our expenses were, and we’d figure out how much we had brought in. And it was eye-opening,” she said. “We may have been poor, but we were rich in values.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her first political experience came when she was 13 years old and testified at a school district hearing to advocate against a school busing desegregation program that would have sent her younger sister across the city. In the same interview, she said she would not take that same position today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In her announcement, Yee teared up when thanking her family, including her 103-year-old mother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Every time I ask her, ‘How are you feeling about what’s going on in the world?’ Her response is always the same. ‘We know what we got to do,’” Yee said. “Mom, I’m just going to say: Yeah, I know. And I will continue to go do it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12075209\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12075209\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260226-GovRaceForum-14-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260226-GovRaceForum-14-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260226-GovRaceForum-14-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260226-GovRaceForum-14-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Betty Yee, former California State Controller, speaks during a state gubernatorial forum at the UCSF Mission Bay campus in San Francisco on Jan. 26, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She did not endorse another candidate after dropping out but said she would assess the remaining candidates and announce her pick within the next few days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When asked what qualities she’ll be looking for, she said she wants someone with “a demonstrated history of making progress” and an “ability to work with diverse interests.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Looking ahead, Yee said she will continue standing up for immigrant and border communities and vowed to protect election integrity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I will be seeing you in the communities where I’ve been, but as of today, it will be in a different venue,” Yee said. “Not as a candidate, but as a fellow Californian.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>A San José teenager has been charged with the murder and assault of a 2-year-old who \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12080197/south-bay-toddler-dies-in-foster-care-after-alleged-sexual-assault\">died in Santa Clara County’s embattled foster care system\u003c/a> earlier this month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The 18-year-old was charged Monday with murder for allegedly killing his foster brother, Jaxon Juarez, and assaulting him repeatedly, according to the District Attorney’s Office. The counts add to other sexual assault charges already brought in the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>District Attorney Jeff Rosen said Monday that while the suspect, who was a minor at the time of Juarez’s death, is currently being tried in juvenile court, he has moved to have the case transferred to the adult criminal division. The juvenile court judge overseeing the case will decide on the motion, Rosen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The rape and murder of a child are two of the most serious crimes that we prosecute. These crimes should be heard in our most serious criminal courts,” he told reporters following the suspect’s first court appearance on Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jaxon had been under the care of a relative, Bridget Michelle Martinez, the mother of the teen suspect, for just a few weeks before he died in the hospital on April 9. His “small, bruised and battered body” was found by San José police officers days earlier, on Easter Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The District Attorney’s office said evidence showed that after he was placed in the home in February, Jaxon had been repeatedly physically and sexually assaulted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080614\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080614\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-09-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-09-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-09-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-09-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">District Attorney Jeff Rosen speaks outside the Santa Clara County Juvenile Court in San José on April 20, 2026, where prosecutors announced charges against a San José teen accused of killing his 2-year-old foster brother, Jaxon Juarez. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Martinez’s son, who is Jaxon’s cousin, was initially charged with multiple counts of sexual assault, including forced sodomy. During Monday’s short, emotional hearing, new rape and murder charges were added to the case. Among the assault charges, the suspect is accused of putting a hair tie around Jaxon’s neck, causing significant injury.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While no official cause of death has been announced, the DA’s office said it does have preliminary indications, but did not elaborate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He did not deserve this,” said Evangeline Dominguez-Estrada, a friend of Jaxon’s late mother, who was at the hearing on Monday. “He deserved to be protected. He deserved to be cared for. Every child deserves that. They need us.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jaxon is the third child who has died while under the care of the county’s Department of Family and Children’s Services in the last several years. The department has been subject to state oversight since 2023, when two other young children died under its supervision. Critics have accused the department of prioritizing family reunification over child safety, though in recent years, it’s been recognized for making progress under a corrective action plan that aims to rebalance focus between reunification and safety.[aside postID=news_12080399 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-Jaxon-Folo-04-KQED.jpg']The DA’s office said it is still investigating whether it might bring charges against anyone else in connection with Jaxon’s death, both inside and out of the county agency. Martinez was briefly arrested but released.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is not the first time that this has happened,” Rosen told reporters after Monday’s hearing. “People in the public, and myself as the DA, would like to know who is responsible criminally, civilly, morally, ethically, systemically.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Why are horrible and tragic crimes happening to children in the care and custody of the Department of Family and Children’s Services over and over and over again?” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rosen’s comments come after \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12080399/south-bay-toddler-placed-with-woman-convicted-of-child-endangerment-before-death\">revelations about Martinez’s criminal history\u003c/a> last week renewed scrutiny of the department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to court and police records, Martinez had a prior felony conviction for child endangerment, which prohibits the Department of Family and Children’s Services from placing a child in her care, even in an emergency, per the county’s own policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Martinez was convicted of felony child endangerment and a misdemeanor DUI in 2014, when she was found with “red watery eyes, slurred speech and a strong odor of an intoxicating beverage” while driving her 1-year-old daughter. At the time of her arrest, her license was suspended due to a prior DUI conviction in 2011. She was also charged with another DUI in 2020 in Stanislaus County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not clear if the Department of Child Services knew of the charges against Martinez. The county did not explain how Jaxon came to be placed under her care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080617\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12080617 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-23-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-23-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-23-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-23-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A sign says, “Justice for Jaxon” outside the Santa Clara County Juvenile Court in San José on April 20, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When he was born, Jaxon lived with his mother, Brianna Burton, and his father, Albert Juarez. Burton died of alcohol abuse last year, and he was placed in the county’s custody. Jaxon then lived with a foster family before he was transferred to a maternal grandparent near Sacramento for six months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While there, the grandparent had to bring the boy to the South Bay for regular visits with his father, a requirement that prevented the grandparent from continuing to serve as a guardian. In February, Jaxon was transferred to live with Martinez.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Riley Wallace, Jaxon’s aunt, said she and family members in Arizona had asked the court to allow Jaxon to live with them, but were denied because of the distance from Jaxon’s father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is completely unacceptable,” Wallace told KQED last week. “They did not protect a child, and that’s their job, that’s what they took the child for, to protect him. And they failed him so terribly.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080616\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12080616 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-20-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-20-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-20-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-20-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A crowd listens to District Attorney Jeff Rosen speak outside the Santa Clara County Juvenile Court in San José on April 20, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She said they were told they’d need to wait for Jaxon to be put up for adoption.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Wallace, the family plans to sue the agency, saying Jaxon never should have been placed with Martinez. The Department of Family and Children’s Services is already facing a lawsuit by the grandfather of another young child, 6-year-old Jordan Walker, who died in 2023. He was stabbed to death by a relative in a home in San José that August.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is not a one-off. It’s the third time, and that’s just murder,” Rosen said. “We’re not talking about the other children under the care of the Department of Family and Children’s Services who have been abused sexually and physically in the last few years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think there’s important questions to ask officials at the highest level in the county,” Rosen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080613\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12080613 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-01-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-01-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-01-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-01-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Zariah Garduno (left) and Ethan Guadamuz wait outside the Santa Clara County Juvenile Court in San José on April 20, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Both the San José Police Department and the Department of Family and Children’s Services are investigating Jaxon’s case, and the county has asked the state’s Department of Social Services to conduct its own independent investigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Martinez’s son is due back in court on May 21 to be appointed an attorney. According to Rosen, it could be months before the judge determines whether to grant the DA’s office request to transfer the case to adult court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside the courtroom on Monday, Dominguez-Estrada and a high school classmate of the suspect were among a group calling for him to be tried as an adult.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This should be in the court where people can see, and it’s open to the public,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/jgeha\">\u003cem>Joseph Geha\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> and \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/aaliahmad\">\u003cem>Ayah Ali-Ahmad\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The DA’s office said it is still investigating whether it might bring charges against anyone else in connection with Jaxon’s death, both inside and out of the county agency. Martinez was briefly arrested but released.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is not the first time that this has happened,” Rosen told reporters after Monday’s hearing. “People in the public, and myself as the DA, would like to know who is responsible criminally, civilly, morally, ethically, systemically.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Why are horrible and tragic crimes happening to children in the care and custody of the Department of Family and Children’s Services over and over and over again?” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rosen’s comments come after \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12080399/south-bay-toddler-placed-with-woman-convicted-of-child-endangerment-before-death\">revelations about Martinez’s criminal history\u003c/a> last week renewed scrutiny of the department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to court and police records, Martinez had a prior felony conviction for child endangerment, which prohibits the Department of Family and Children’s Services from placing a child in her care, even in an emergency, per the county’s own policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Martinez was convicted of felony child endangerment and a misdemeanor DUI in 2014, when she was found with “red watery eyes, slurred speech and a strong odor of an intoxicating beverage” while driving her 1-year-old daughter. At the time of her arrest, her license was suspended due to a prior DUI conviction in 2011. She was also charged with another DUI in 2020 in Stanislaus County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not clear if the Department of Child Services knew of the charges against Martinez. The county did not explain how Jaxon came to be placed under her care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080617\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12080617 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-23-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-23-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-23-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-23-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A sign says, “Justice for Jaxon” outside the Santa Clara County Juvenile Court in San José on April 20, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When he was born, Jaxon lived with his mother, Brianna Burton, and his father, Albert Juarez. Burton died of alcohol abuse last year, and he was placed in the county’s custody. Jaxon then lived with a foster family before he was transferred to a maternal grandparent near Sacramento for six months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While there, the grandparent had to bring the boy to the South Bay for regular visits with his father, a requirement that prevented the grandparent from continuing to serve as a guardian. In February, Jaxon was transferred to live with Martinez.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Riley Wallace, Jaxon’s aunt, said she and family members in Arizona had asked the court to allow Jaxon to live with them, but were denied because of the distance from Jaxon’s father.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is completely unacceptable,” Wallace told KQED last week. “They did not protect a child, and that’s their job, that’s what they took the child for, to protect him. And they failed him so terribly.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080616\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12080616 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-20-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-20-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-20-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-20-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A crowd listens to District Attorney Jeff Rosen speak outside the Santa Clara County Juvenile Court in San José on April 20, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She said they were told they’d need to wait for Jaxon to be put up for adoption.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Wallace, the family plans to sue the agency, saying Jaxon never should have been placed with Martinez. The Department of Family and Children’s Services is already facing a lawsuit by the grandfather of another young child, 6-year-old Jordan Walker, who died in 2023. He was stabbed to death by a relative in a home in San José that August.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is not a one-off. It’s the third time, and that’s just murder,” Rosen said. “We’re not talking about the other children under the care of the Department of Family and Children’s Services who have been abused sexually and physically in the last few years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think there’s important questions to ask officials at the highest level in the county,” Rosen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080613\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12080613 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-01-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-01-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-01-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260420-SCCDAANNOUNCEMENT-01-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Zariah Garduno (left) and Ethan Guadamuz wait outside the Santa Clara County Juvenile Court in San José on April 20, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Both the San José Police Department and the Department of Family and Children’s Services are investigating Jaxon’s case, and the county has asked the state’s Department of Social Services to conduct its own independent investigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Martinez’s son is due back in court on May 21 to be appointed an attorney. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How do you make friends?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It may seem like a simple question, but it’s a difficult one to answer for so many people, especially here in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We’re a community that has a lot of folks coming and going all time. Many places where we once gathered – so-called third spaces – closed during the pandemic. Going out is expensive! We’re all busy, with many balancing the time demands of family, keeping our health in check, careers and unfortunately, \u003cem>commuting\u003c/em> to those careers. Plus, the pandemic made some of us feel pretty rusty on our social skills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the years Bay Curious has received a few questions from people looking for advice on how to build friendships here. We even tackled the topic 8 years ago. But in the post-pandemic world, we thought it was high time we revisited the topic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So today we’re going to share an episode from The Bay that we think has some great tips. Even if you have a full stable of friends, there’s always room for one more. Enjoy!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC9397229188&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do you make friends?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It may seem like a simple question, but it’s a difficult one to answer for so many people. Especially here in the Bay Area.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We’re a community that has a lot of folks coming and going all time. \u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A lot of places where folks gathered – so-called third spaces – closed during the pandemic.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Going out is expensive!\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We’re all busy! With many balancing the time demands of family, keeping our health in check, careers and unfortunately, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">commuting to those careers.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The pandemic made some of us feel rusty – it can feel easier to stay home and scroll the internet…\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">…and it can feel impossible to make a good old fashioned friend anymore.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Over the years Bay Curious has received a few questions from people looking for advice on how to build friendships here. So today we’re going to share an episode from The Bay, another KQED podcast, who just tackled this topic. And we really loved their episode.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here’s host of The Bay, Ericka Cruz Guevarra kicking things off with Bay producer, Jessica Kariisa…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra [\u003c/strong>00:04:39] We put out a call out to our listeners about making friends in the Bay Area. Can you actually just remind us first what we were asking?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:04:51] So we asked folks basically what are their thoughts on how it is to make friends in the Bay Area? Do they find it easy? Do they find it hard, what’s worked for them, what’s not worked for them. We got a lot of responses from people saying that they were not having a hard time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Bee\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:05:13] I find it very easy to make friends.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:05:16] Some people are born and raised here. There was a caller named Bee in Oakland who said, you know, he’s very extroverted, he has kids. So there’s lots of opportunities for him to meet different kinds of people.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Bee \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:05:29] In Oakland, I think a lot of folks look after each other and want to be in connection with their neighbors.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:05:36] Similarly, there was a caller named Dan in San Francisco who is also very extroverted.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dan\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:05:42] I find it quite easy to make friends in San Francisco. Super easy to chat with anyone. I love talking to strangers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:05:52] He’s in a co-living type situation. He’s also in a coworking situation. He volunteers. In fact, he said it was so easy for him that he has too many friends, and he needs to cut back.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dan \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:06:04] I have to divest from some potential friendships to focus on the ones I have or the ones that I’m already investing in. It really is a bounty.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dian \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:06:16] My name is Dian Ostolski. I live in Pittsburgh. I came out after my divorce.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:06:23] And there’s also people who’ve moved here who’ve had a really easy time making friends. There was a lady who reached out to us named Dian. She’s a trans woman. She came out after moving to the Bay Area and she’s had an amazing experience making friends out here. She’s joined a lot of supportive groups. She also just has picked up so many hobbies and the Bay area has actually been the place where her identity has like blossomed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dian \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:06:49] In Walnut Creek. We have Club 1220. It’s the only gay bar left in the county, but they’ve been here for 30 years. And I started learning how to play pool and ended up joining two different leagues. So I have just met so many more friends than I ever thought at coming out to California at my age of 55, now 69. So much friendship and support. It has been wonderful.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:07:13] And then what about people who have struggled to make friends in the Bay Area? 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I have a friend who I made maybe in the last three years who is moving soon, not necessarily because she’s getting pushed out but because she just, I feel like it’s just a transitory sort of place, the Bay Area. People sort of come for a little bit and then leave and you know go off to do other things and yeah how do you maintain those friendships outside of the Bay area too? You, Jessica, wanted to follow one specific person. Tell me a little bit about Katie.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:08:25] One of the listeners who reached out to us is a woman named Katie Barrow, and she’s been struggling to make friends.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:08:32] I am 42 and I am from Flagstaff, Arizona, born and raised and lived there until I went to college at Syracuse, which was about as far away as I could possibly go.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:08:45] She’s lived in San Jose for the past 10 years. She’s in the broader Bay Area even longer than that. She moved here after college.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:08:53] I moved to California the day after I graduated. 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Didn’t always have someone to do that with.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:09:51] And so she’s at a place where she’s been trying to make new friends as she adjusts to this new chapter in her life. And she told us that it’s been really hard for her for a lot of the same reasons that we’ve brought up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:10:03] The biggest challenge is just being busy and like being in the Bay Area, I think everyone is busy and everyone has unique interests and so it’s hard to find someone that can align with your schedule and your interests.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:10:21] To her credit, she has tried a lot of different things. She’s tried meetup groups, she’s tried exercise classes, but it’s been difficult in all those different things just to kind of take things to the next level, and to also find people who also want to commit to making a new friend.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:10:43] The consistency part.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:10:44] Part of this.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:10:45] Yeah, and especially I imagine as a single mom.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:10:49] That’s key. Right, yeah exactly. I mean her time is pretty limited and so I think having people who have flexibility in their schedule is also really important.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:11:01] Yeah, driving is another thing. San Francisco feels really far. I’d love to meet someone who lived in a similar area so we could just kind of meet after work, go to happy hour, and it didn’t feel like something that needed to be really planned and have lots of logistics.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:11:23] I don’t know how many times, you know, I’ve met people, or even with close friends, you open up your Google calendar, when are you free? No, not free, no, not, and then next thing you know you’re meeting like two months from now, you now, which is not really conducive to building intimate relationships quickly.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> When we return, Jessica tries to help Katie – and all of us – make some friends. Stay with us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">SPONSOR MESSAGES\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:11:42]: Jessica, you decided to actually try and help. Where did you start? How’d you help her out?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:11:52] Right, yeah, I decided to play fairy godmother. And so I went out, I met Katie in San Jose. I also live in San José, so that was very convenient. And then I actually reached out to a friendship expert, you could say.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kat Vellos \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:12:08] So my name is Kat, and I am a connection coach and educator.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:12:13] Her name is Kat Vellos. She’s based in the Bay Area, and she’s a connection, coach and an educator and a researcher who has studied. Adult friendships, how people make friendships, also how the built environment affects our ability to make and sustain friendships.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kat Vellos\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:12:31] All of the work that I do is about helping people cultivate more friendships, and community in their lives, and also creating more places that are conducive to the creation of friendship and community.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:12:41] When I brought up Katie’s case, like she told me she actually had very similar experiences when she moved to the Bay Area. She’s a transplant to this area, and she found that a lot of friends she was making were moving away. And I was like, man, it’s really hard to make friends and the more people I to to find out how friendship was going for them. The more people said, man, it’s really hard to make friends as an adult. And so that also was actually what spurred a lot of her research into how to sustain connections.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:13:13] So you shared with Kat, Katie’s situation, she’s a single mom, she’s in her early 40s, she’s on this sort of new life stage, she’s living in San Jose and she’s trying to make friends. What was Kat’s advice for Katie?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:13:29] She said that sustained connection really boils down to like four things. She calls them the four seeds of connection.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kat Vellos \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:13:41] So the seeds of connection are the four elements that determine whether your new friendship is going to stick and last and get deeper.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:13:52] And those are compatibility. Do we get along? Do we vibe? Is there a vibe? Proximity, you know, are we close to each other? Can we actually see each other, right? Frequency and commitment. And so in Katie’s case, she found that there was definitely seeds of compatibility in some of the things she was trying out, proximity. She was trying things in her neighborhood and in her area, but there was not enough frequency and there was no enough commitment. And that doesn’t mean she’s doing something wrong. I’m just saying what we would want to focus on to increase more depth and connection in her life. And so her recommendation was that Katie basically needs to find a group or an activity and become an enthusiastic regular in that space. Join a club that brings together people that you’re compatible with and where the conversation is going to be easy and abundant. And so one thing Katie talked about that she liked doing is she likes crafting. And so Kat went and found a craft group in the South Bay. You know, it’s not like that she has to do that exact activity, but just in the, to give an example, if you like crafting, check out this craft group, go there, keep going there, and on top of that, be enthusiastic in your participation.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kat Vellos \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:15:32] So that means not just showing up and hanging in a corner, then scurrying out the door before it’s over, actually going up, having some conversation with other people there. And when you meet someone that you think you click with, invite them to spend time together outside of that place too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:15:46] She said follow up with them almost immediately to do something like hit them up right away. If you met on a Tuesday, try to see them that weekend and try to invite them to something that you’re already doing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kat Vellos\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:16:00] So level one might be going for a walk, getting a coffee, having a drink, having a meal. But level two, I encourage you to think about maybe making it a level two thing, which is something that’s a little bit more interesting and meaningful to you, right? So if you love bird watching, invite them to go to the marina and look at birds with you. If you love women’s basketball, invite them come watch a game at your favorite sports bar. If you like trivia, invite them be on your trivia team next week.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:16:32] So Kat recommends a craft night. What did Katie think of this?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:16:37] Hey, Katie.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:16:38] Hi.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:16:39] Does this sound okay?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:16:41] Yeah, this sounds good.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:16:42] She was pretty excited about it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:16:44] Where you’re sitting down and knitting – I like that idea.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:16:46] One thing she did mention to me was that she hadn’t, cause I think the group was actually a crochet group and she hadn’t crocheted in like 10 years. And so she needed to kind of brush up on her crochet skills a little bit, but she was still down for it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:17:03] And what do you think about the part about being like an enthusiastic regular, like giving someone your number and trying to hang out soon? How does that feel?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:17:14] It feels intimidating, but I think it’s an important part of making the actual connection.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:17:28] So how did it go? Did Katie actually go to the craft night and what was her experience like?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:17:35] So I actually shared this advice with Katie like a month ago, and she had a very eventful month of March.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:17:45] I have tried a couple of different things and learned a lot about myself and my schedule and limitations and yeah, a lot of really good things came out of it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:17:59] She didn’t wanna go into the crochet night cold turkey. So she signed up for a crochet class and she actually invited a coworker friend to go with her to this crochet class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:18:13] Is this a co-worker that she was interested in being friends with?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:18:19] Yeah I think this was a co-worker that she was already work friends with, but was also open to the idea of that friendship expanding beyond work. And so she invited her out.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:18:29] And we learned how to crochet in an hour. It all came back to me pretty quickly, a little more challenging for her.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:18:37] The demographic was about 20 years older than them.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:18:42] I don’t hate that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:18:44] I don’t hate it either. But I think the vibe wasn’t vibing. It seemed a little too a little to far out.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:18:52] Well, that’s probably not representative of some of the other clubs. Um, I thought, you know, maybe, um, I should look into some other activities also.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:19:00] So after the crochet class, Katie went to a pickleball class. She said she met some pretty cool people there. The teacher was great. The other participants in the class were really great, but she kind of chickened out and didn’t ask for contacts afterwards. And so there was no way to really follow up with those people again.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:19:24] I wish I had gotten their information, because I would love to go and play with them again.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:19:33] But then her coworker, kind of like as a little, you know, I came out with you, so you come out with me kind of thing, invited Katie out to a run club. And so Katie went out to this run club and she was feeling it. She went with her dog, you know which is great conversation starter. If you have a dog and you want to make friends take the dog out.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:19:55] Right.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:19:57] My dog Sally is a great emotional support and she’s super friendly. And every time I bring her somewhere, people just come up and talk to me and pet her. And so that was a great way to just kind of get immersed in the group.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:20:15] She did like the walk / run path, you know, and then afterwards, uh, people went out to a pub afterwards. It was like a run club where people go and go to a pub afterwards.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:20:29] Uh, some people there that I could definitely see myself being friends with.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:20:36] And she talked to some folks there and she exchanged some contacts. So that was really successful and she definitely sees herself going back out to the Run Club.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:20:49] I’m feeling very proud of Katie right now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:20:51] Me too, me too. Katie really did her thing and that’s just like the tip of the iceberg. She did so many other things. One thing that Katie talked about wanting in her life was spontaneity, right? Someone who she could just hit up last minute, be like. I’m gonna go, do you wanna do this thing with me? But the other side of that is also being up for doing stuff yourself, right? Like being up for other people’s spontaneous invites. And so her kids do theater. And so there’s a group of theater parents that see each other at theater events, don’t usually hang out outside of that, but are loosely connected on social media. And one of the theater parents posted one night, I have this really delicious cake. Does anybody wanna come eat it with me, a carrot cake? Yeah.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:21:38] And I just said, yeah, I’d love to. And so I went over that night and a couple of other theater friends were there too. And so it was a really cool like impromptu get together.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:21:55] She wasn’t the only one there. A few other people showed up and she happened to have some, you know, extra tickets to her daughter’s play. And so she invited people out and then she got to hang out with them again. And so, she’s really just been, you now, firing on all cylinders really and just trying all sorts of things to try to make some connections and it’s really been panning out.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:22:20] You know, just assuming that people are busy isn’t always correct and sometimes it’s cool to try to do things spontaneously.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:22:26] And something really interesting Katie told me is that through this process, this challenge, she ended up telling a lot of people about it. And she was like, that’s actually really powerful too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:22:38] I think a lot of times people might think that you already have your friendship circle and when they know that you are like actively looking to expand and do things with other people, then they are more welcome.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:22:54] I was mentioning earlier, she’s been hanging out a lot with her coworker. That was an existing connection in her life. And I think one thing that she’s also been leaning into, also like the theater parent, is the people who are already there. Sometimes we take for granted the people that are already in our life. We think, oh, they’re too busy, they’re to this, they are to whatever.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:23:15] They’re too far away.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:23:16] They’re too far away — too far way, too far away.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:23:20] Looking at you, Jessica Kariisa.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:23:22] Listen, Vallejo San Jose. People do it all the time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:23:24] I guess overall, what has changed for Katie? Does she just have like hella friends now?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:23:33] You know, I don’t think Katie would say she has hella friends now, but I think what was interesting, talking to Katie, like listening to her first voice note and why we wanted to talk to her. It just seemed like she was kind of in a place where she felt like she didn’t know what to do.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:23:53] Actually, March has been such a fun month. It’s been busy. My house is a mess because I’ve been going out a lot more.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:23:59] Talking to her now, it just feels like all of a sudden where a bunch of doors felt shut, now a bunch doors feel open.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:24:08] I’m just looking forward to being out more, being involved in the community, meeting new people and maybe even starting a craft group at my house.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:24:27] I’m curious, Jessica, what takeaways you have from your reporting, and what takeaways do you have around what actually works?\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:24:36] You just have to keep showing up. You know, I think you just have to keep show up and I’ve seen this in my personal life too. Where you go out to whatever event, you think, oh my gosh, I’m just gonna click with everybody and you come back and you’re like, that sucked. And what do you do after that? You keep showing. Whether it’s maybe that same event because there’s something worthwhile there, or you try a different event, or you just go for walks in your neighborhood every day. Going for walks to my neighborhood every day, I actually got to know my neighbors. It took about a year, but it still happened. You never know where those connections are gonna come from and how they’re gonna develop, but they will develop and they will come. And that’s definitely like something to look forward to.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well Jessica Kariisa it was such a pleasure having you on this side of the microphone. Thank you so much for doing this and for sharing your reporting with us. I really appreciate you.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yeah, thank you so much for having me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That was Ericka Cruz Guevarra and Jessica Kariisa with The Bay. If you like what you heard be sure to subscribe to their show – it’s a great way to keep up with local news in a way that helps you to really, truly understand it. Find The Bay wherever you listen!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Bay is made by: Alan Montecillo, Jessica Kariisa and Ericka Cruz Guevarra. On the Bay Curious side it’s Katrina Schwartz, Christopher Beale and me Olivia Allen-Price. 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"description": "View the full episode transcript. How do you make friends? It may seem like a simple question, but it’s a difficult one to answer for so many people, especially here in the Bay Area. We’re a community that has a lot of folks coming and going all time. Many places where we once gathered – so-called third spaces – closed during the pandemic. Going out is expensive! We’re all busy, with many balancing the time demands of family, keeping our health in check, careers and unfortunately, commuting to those careers. Plus, the pandemic made some of us feel pretty rusty",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-content post-body\">\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do you make friends?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It may seem like a simple question, but it’s a difficult one to answer for so many people. Especially here in the Bay Area.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We’re a community that has a lot of folks coming and going all time. \u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A lot of places where folks gathered – so-called third spaces – closed during the pandemic.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Going out is expensive!\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We’re all busy! With many balancing the time demands of family, keeping our health in check, careers and unfortunately, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">commuting to those careers.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The pandemic made some of us feel rusty – it can feel easier to stay home and scroll the internet…\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">…and it can feel impossible to make a good old fashioned friend anymore.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Over the years Bay Curious has received a few questions from people looking for advice on how to build friendships here. So today we’re going to share an episode from The Bay, another KQED podcast, who just tackled this topic. And we really loved their episode.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here’s host of The Bay, Ericka Cruz Guevarra kicking things off with Bay producer, Jessica Kariisa…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra [\u003c/strong>00:04:39] We put out a call out to our listeners about making friends in the Bay Area. Can you actually just remind us first what we were asking?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:04:51] So we asked folks basically what are their thoughts on how it is to make friends in the Bay Area? Do they find it easy? Do they find it hard, what’s worked for them, what’s not worked for them. We got a lot of responses from people saying that they were not having a hard time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Bee\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:05:13] I find it very easy to make friends.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:05:16] Some people are born and raised here. There was a caller named Bee in Oakland who said, you know, he’s very extroverted, he has kids. So there’s lots of opportunities for him to meet different kinds of people.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Bee \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:05:29] In Oakland, I think a lot of folks look after each other and want to be in connection with their neighbors.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:05:36] Similarly, there was a caller named Dan in San Francisco who is also very extroverted.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dan\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:05:42] I find it quite easy to make friends in San Francisco. Super easy to chat with anyone. I love talking to strangers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:05:52] He’s in a co-living type situation. He’s also in a coworking situation. He volunteers. In fact, he said it was so easy for him that he has too many friends, and he needs to cut back.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dan \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:06:04] I have to divest from some potential friendships to focus on the ones I have or the ones that I’m already investing in. It really is a bounty.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dian \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:06:16] My name is Dian Ostolski. I live in Pittsburgh. I came out after my divorce.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:06:23] And there’s also people who’ve moved here who’ve had a really easy time making friends. There was a lady who reached out to us named Dian. She’s a trans woman. She came out after moving to the Bay Area and she’s had an amazing experience making friends out here. She’s joined a lot of supportive groups. She also just has picked up so many hobbies and the Bay area has actually been the place where her identity has like blossomed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dian \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:06:49] In Walnut Creek. We have Club 1220. It’s the only gay bar left in the county, but they’ve been here for 30 years. And I started learning how to play pool and ended up joining two different leagues. So I have just met so many more friends than I ever thought at coming out to California at my age of 55, now 69. So much friendship and support. It has been wonderful.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:07:13] And then what about people who have struggled to make friends in the Bay Area? What did we hear from folks on that?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Emily\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:07:22] Hi, this is Emily calling from Oakland about making friends.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:07:28] There was a caller named Emily, and she said that two of her closest friends moved away because they couldn’t afford to stay in the Bay Area.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Emily \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:07:37] I think that that is a challenge a lot of people experience of making good friends and then they leave. And so having consistent community is difficult.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:07:50] Definitely. I have a friend who I made maybe in the last three years who is moving soon, not necessarily because she’s getting pushed out but because she just, I feel like it’s just a transitory sort of place, the Bay Area. People sort of come for a little bit and then leave and you know go off to do other things and yeah how do you maintain those friendships outside of the Bay area too? You, Jessica, wanted to follow one specific person. Tell me a little bit about Katie.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:08:25] One of the listeners who reached out to us is a woman named Katie Barrow, and she’s been struggling to make friends.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:08:32] I am 42 and I am from Flagstaff, Arizona, born and raised and lived there until I went to college at Syracuse, which was about as far away as I could possibly go.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:08:45] She’s lived in San Jose for the past 10 years. She’s in the broader Bay Area even longer than that. She moved here after college.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:08:53] I moved to California the day after I graduated. I was tired of the cold and looking forward to some sun.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:09:02] Katie is recently divorced and so she’s a single mom and she was a stay at home mom for seven years and after her divorce she got back into the workforce. So her whole identity has shifted.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:09:15] When you’re married, you have your partner and you don’t need as many friends to be there for you like after work. You kind of always have someone to do something with. I wanted to find other people that I could go out and do things with. I wanted go to the movies or go to a bar. I’m super creative. I love painting and I love crafts as just an outlet. Didn’t always have someone to do that with.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:09:51] And so she’s at a place where she’s been trying to make new friends as she adjusts to this new chapter in her life. And she told us that it’s been really hard for her for a lot of the same reasons that we’ve brought up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:10:03] The biggest challenge is just being busy and like being in the Bay Area, I think everyone is busy and everyone has unique interests and so it’s hard to find someone that can align with your schedule and your interests.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:10:21] To her credit, she has tried a lot of different things. She’s tried meetup groups, she’s tried exercise classes, but it’s been difficult in all those different things just to kind of take things to the next level, and to also find people who also want to commit to making a new friend.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:10:43] The consistency part.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:10:44] Part of this.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:10:45] Yeah, and especially I imagine as a single mom.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:10:49] That’s key. Right, yeah exactly. I mean her time is pretty limited and so I think having people who have flexibility in their schedule is also really important.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:11:01] Yeah, driving is another thing. San Francisco feels really far. I’d love to meet someone who lived in a similar area so we could just kind of meet after work, go to happy hour, and it didn’t feel like something that needed to be really planned and have lots of logistics.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:11:23] I don’t know how many times, you know, I’ve met people, or even with close friends, you open up your Google calendar, when are you free? No, not free, no, not, and then next thing you know you’re meeting like two months from now, you now, which is not really conducive to building intimate relationships quickly.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> When we return, Jessica tries to help Katie – and all of us – make some friends. Stay with us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">SPONSOR MESSAGES\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:11:42]: Jessica, you decided to actually try and help. Where did you start? How’d you help her out?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:11:52] Right, yeah, I decided to play fairy godmother. And so I went out, I met Katie in San Jose. I also live in San José, so that was very convenient. And then I actually reached out to a friendship expert, you could say.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kat Vellos \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:12:08] So my name is Kat, and I am a connection coach and educator.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:12:13] Her name is Kat Vellos. She’s based in the Bay Area, and she’s a connection, coach and an educator and a researcher who has studied. Adult friendships, how people make friendships, also how the built environment affects our ability to make and sustain friendships.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kat Vellos\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:12:31] All of the work that I do is about helping people cultivate more friendships, and community in their lives, and also creating more places that are conducive to the creation of friendship and community.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:12:41] When I brought up Katie’s case, like she told me she actually had very similar experiences when she moved to the Bay Area. She’s a transplant to this area, and she found that a lot of friends she was making were moving away. And I was like, man, it’s really hard to make friends and the more people I to to find out how friendship was going for them. The more people said, man, it’s really hard to make friends as an adult. And so that also was actually what spurred a lot of her research into how to sustain connections.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:13:13] So you shared with Kat, Katie’s situation, she’s a single mom, she’s in her early 40s, she’s on this sort of new life stage, she’s living in San Jose and she’s trying to make friends. What was Kat’s advice for Katie?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:13:29] She said that sustained connection really boils down to like four things. She calls them the four seeds of connection.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kat Vellos \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:13:41] So the seeds of connection are the four elements that determine whether your new friendship is going to stick and last and get deeper.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:13:52] And those are compatibility. Do we get along? Do we vibe? Is there a vibe? Proximity, you know, are we close to each other? Can we actually see each other, right? Frequency and commitment. And so in Katie’s case, she found that there was definitely seeds of compatibility in some of the things she was trying out, proximity. She was trying things in her neighborhood and in her area, but there was not enough frequency and there was no enough commitment. And that doesn’t mean she’s doing something wrong. I’m just saying what we would want to focus on to increase more depth and connection in her life. And so her recommendation was that Katie basically needs to find a group or an activity and become an enthusiastic regular in that space. Join a club that brings together people that you’re compatible with and where the conversation is going to be easy and abundant. And so one thing Katie talked about that she liked doing is she likes crafting. And so Kat went and found a craft group in the South Bay. You know, it’s not like that she has to do that exact activity, but just in the, to give an example, if you like crafting, check out this craft group, go there, keep going there, and on top of that, be enthusiastic in your participation.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kat Vellos \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:15:32] So that means not just showing up and hanging in a corner, then scurrying out the door before it’s over, actually going up, having some conversation with other people there. And when you meet someone that you think you click with, invite them to spend time together outside of that place too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:15:46] She said follow up with them almost immediately to do something like hit them up right away. If you met on a Tuesday, try to see them that weekend and try to invite them to something that you’re already doing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kat Vellos\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:16:00] So level one might be going for a walk, getting a coffee, having a drink, having a meal. But level two, I encourage you to think about maybe making it a level two thing, which is something that’s a little bit more interesting and meaningful to you, right? So if you love bird watching, invite them to go to the marina and look at birds with you. If you love women’s basketball, invite them come watch a game at your favorite sports bar. If you like trivia, invite them be on your trivia team next week.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:16:32] So Kat recommends a craft night. 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Did Katie actually go to the craft night and what was her experience like?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:17:35] So I actually shared this advice with Katie like a month ago, and she had a very eventful month of March.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:17:45] I have tried a couple of different things and learned a lot about myself and my schedule and limitations and yeah, a lot of really good things came out of it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:17:59] She didn’t wanna go into the crochet night cold turkey. 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It all came back to me pretty quickly, a little more challenging for her.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:18:37] The demographic was about 20 years older than them.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:18:42] I don’t hate that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:18:44] I don’t hate it either. But I think the vibe wasn’t vibing. It seemed a little too a little to far out.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:18:52] Well, that’s probably not representative of some of the other clubs. Um, I thought, you know, maybe, um, I should look into some other activities also.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:19:00] So after the crochet class, Katie went to a pickleball class. She said she met some pretty cool people there. The teacher was great. The other participants in the class were really great, but she kind of chickened out and didn’t ask for contacts afterwards. And so there was no way to really follow up with those people again.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:19:24] I wish I had gotten their information, because I would love to go and play with them again.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:19:33] But then her coworker, kind of like as a little, you know, I came out with you, so you come out with me kind of thing, invited Katie out to a run club. And so Katie went out to this run club and she was feeling it. She went with her dog, you know which is great conversation starter. If you have a dog and you want to make friends take the dog out.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:19:55] Right.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:19:57] My dog Sally is a great emotional support and she’s super friendly. And every time I bring her somewhere, people just come up and talk to me and pet her. And so that was a great way to just kind of get immersed in the group.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:20:15] She did like the walk / run path, you know, and then afterwards, uh, people went out to a pub afterwards. It was like a run club where people go and go to a pub afterwards.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:20:29] Uh, some people there that I could definitely see myself being friends with.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:20:36] And she talked to some folks there and she exchanged some contacts. So that was really successful and she definitely sees herself going back out to the Run Club.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:20:49] I’m feeling very proud of Katie right now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:20:51] Me too, me too. Katie really did her thing and that’s just like the tip of the iceberg. She did so many other things. One thing that Katie talked about wanting in her life was spontaneity, right? Someone who she could just hit up last minute, be like. I’m gonna go, do you wanna do this thing with me? But the other side of that is also being up for doing stuff yourself, right? Like being up for other people’s spontaneous invites. And so her kids do theater. And so there’s a group of theater parents that see each other at theater events, don’t usually hang out outside of that, but are loosely connected on social media. And one of the theater parents posted one night, I have this really delicious cake. Does anybody wanna come eat it with me, a carrot cake? Yeah.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:21:38] And I just said, yeah, I’d love to. And so I went over that night and a couple of other theater friends were there too. And so it was a really cool like impromptu get together.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:21:55] She wasn’t the only one there. A few other people showed up and she happened to have some, you know, extra tickets to her daughter’s play. And so she invited people out and then she got to hang out with them again. And so, she’s really just been, you now, firing on all cylinders really and just trying all sorts of things to try to make some connections and it’s really been panning out.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:22:20] You know, just assuming that people are busy isn’t always correct and sometimes it’s cool to try to do things spontaneously.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:22:26] And something really interesting Katie told me is that through this process, this challenge, she ended up telling a lot of people about it. And she was like, that’s actually really powerful too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:22:38] I think a lot of times people might think that you already have your friendship circle and when they know that you are like actively looking to expand and do things with other people, then they are more welcome.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:22:54] I was mentioning earlier, she’s been hanging out a lot with her coworker. That was an existing connection in her life. And I think one thing that she’s also been leaning into, also like the theater parent, is the people who are already there. Sometimes we take for granted the people that are already in our life. We think, oh, they’re too busy, they’re to this, they are to whatever.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:23:15] They’re too far away.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:23:16] They’re too far away — too far way, too far away.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:23:20] Looking at you, Jessica Kariisa.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:23:22] Listen, Vallejo San Jose. People do it all the time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:23:24] I guess overall, what has changed for Katie? Does she just have like hella friends now?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:23:33] You know, I don’t think Katie would say she has hella friends now, but I think what was interesting, talking to Katie, like listening to her first voice note and why we wanted to talk to her. It just seemed like she was kind of in a place where she felt like she didn’t know what to do.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:23:53] Actually, March has been such a fun month. It’s been busy. My house is a mess because I’ve been going out a lot more.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:23:59] Talking to her now, it just feels like all of a sudden where a bunch of doors felt shut, now a bunch doors feel open.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katie Barrow \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[00:24:08] I’m just looking forward to being out more, being involved in the community, meeting new people and maybe even starting a craft group at my house.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:24:27] I’m curious, Jessica, what takeaways you have from your reporting, and what takeaways do you have around what actually works?\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [00:24:36] You just have to keep showing up. You know, I think you just have to keep show up and I’ve seen this in my personal life too. Where you go out to whatever event, you think, oh my gosh, I’m just gonna click with everybody and you come back and you’re like, that sucked. And what do you do after that? You keep showing. Whether it’s maybe that same event because there’s something worthwhile there, or you try a different event, or you just go for walks in your neighborhood every day. Going for walks to my neighborhood every day, I actually got to know my neighbors. It took about a year, but it still happened. You never know where those connections are gonna come from and how they’re gonna develop, but they will develop and they will come. And that’s definitely like something to look forward to.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well Jessica Kariisa it was such a pleasure having you on this side of the microphone. Thank you so much for doing this and for sharing your reporting with us. I really appreciate you.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jessica Kariisa:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yeah, thank you so much for having me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That was Ericka Cruz Guevarra and Jessica Kariisa with The Bay. If you like what you heard be sure to subscribe to their show – it’s a great way to keep up with local news in a way that helps you to really, truly understand it. Find The Bay wherever you listen!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Bay is made by: Alan Montecillo, Jessica Kariisa and Ericka Cruz Guevarra. On the Bay Curious side it’s Katrina Schwartz, Christopher Beale and me Olivia Allen-Price. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some school districts are now providing workforce housing, as they find themselves with vacant properties and employees who say they can’t afford to stay in the Bay Area. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today, we meet one teacher in San Francisco who was planning to leave – until she got an apartment in a teacher housing complex.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12079098/when-teachers-cant-afford-to-live-in-the-bay-area-districts-get-into-the-housing-game\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Teachers Can’t Afford to Live in the Bay Area, Districts Get Into the Housing Game\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC1117496189\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, San Francisco-Northern California Local.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Episode transcript\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:54] I’m Ericka Cruz Guevara and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. Affordability has been a huge topic in negotiations between school districts and teachers unions, with teachers arguing that the high cost of living in the Bay Area makes it hard to stay here. One way districts are trying to help is by providing workforce housing for its educators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:01:26] It has improved their quality of life because they don’t have their long commutes and they also have mentioned that they are able to give more to their school community and their students because they aren’t.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:01:40] School districts are getting into the affordable housing game. And for the teachers who get a spot, it can be the difference between staying or leaving. Today, how workforce housing can help Bay Area teachers. I wonder if you can start by telling me actually about Miss Hernandez, who is she, and what is her story?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:18] So Ms. Hernandez is a para educator. She’s a classroom aid in the San Francisco Unified School District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:29] And we’re not using Ms. Hernandez’s full name because she has ongoing litigation with the previous landlord.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:02:40] We were renting a unit with my husband and we’ve been living there for at least 10 years or so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:49] She has been living in the Bay Area for the last 20 years, mostly in San Francisco, where we used to live.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:02:56] To leave. The house was pretty old, needed to have some updates and so we kind of like got tired of the situation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:06] Miss Hernandez’s son is in middle school and last year he started asking her, you know, where am I gonna go to high school? What is that gonna look like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:03:16] And I told him at that time, I’m sorry baby, but I don’t know, like, I don’t know if we’re gonna continue to be living in this city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:23] She said that was really hard because her and her husband at the time were kind of weighing moving out of state because housing was just getting so unaffordable in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:03:36] Sister did. She actually moved out of California. Yeah, having her move kind of made me realize, you know, maybe we need to take the step too. But then we have our son here and we were just trying really hard to to have him finish his studies here. And so it was a challenging time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:56] She says her family was spending a lot of money on rent, about $3,000, but they still didn’t feel super secure in their place. They lived in a two-bedroom in kind of the outer mission area. And she said they were tired of struggles with their landlord. They wanted to move into a neighborhood that felt safer in a unit with better amenities, but they really hadn’t been able to find any other apartments to move into.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:04:24] We haven’t gotten that lucky in the past with the lottery system. Even though we are like very tight in our budget, it’s not really, like we’re not considered low income. So it’s like, we’re kind of like in the middle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:43] You spent the last few weeks reporting on what is known as workforce housing for a KQED series called How We Get By, which explores the sort of creative extremes or compromises that folks make in order to live in the Bay Area. What exactly is workforce housing, Katie?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:05:07] So workforce housing isn’t a new concept. It’s existed for a long time. A lot of universities, for example, have programs that offer some kind of housing for their employees. Experts I spoke with even kind of said this has existed for long time in the public sector, even mentioning like the company town. One expert said even back to like building the railroads, they would have to. Build housing so that they could get employees to come work for them. It’s not uncommon for employers to do that, but it is a little bit more new for school districts. Basically, San Francisco has built a development that gives priority to teachers, but other like in Oakland, they’ve looked at buying residential buildings that already exist and transitioning those into housing for teachers. So there’s a couple of different ways of going about it, but basically it’s just providing more affordable housing to district employees in order to keep them here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:06:13] Does workforce housing look like in San Francisco and what kind of workforce housing is available, for example, to people like Ms. Hernandez?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:06:23] SFUSD, about a decade ago, announced that it was going to look into creating affordable housing for its employees in partnership with the city. And it identified a piece of property that it already owned, it used to be a school in the outer sunset for this first development, Shirley Chisholm Village. They’re funding it through both the city and the district with a combination of sources. Bonds, loans, federal tax credits, and affordable housing programs. And so it’s going through the city’s affordable housing system. And it is a four to five story building, depending on which side of the street you’re on, that has 135 housing units that are mostly filled with SFUSD employees, and they broke ground on this in 2022 and it opened in 2024. Right now, a one bedroom can be upwards of $3,500 a month versus a teacher who lives in Shirley Chisholm pays about $2,500.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:07:40] So I know Ms. Hernandez applied to live in one of these units. What was that process like for her? How does she describe it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:07:50] She said it was difficult. It’s challenging because you have to be available and you have get things done almost within like three to five days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:08:03] Applying to this development is kind of the same process as entering the lottery system for the city’s other affordable housing developments, which, you know, she says meant a lot of paperwork. A lot of those have long wait lists. You’re waiting for a callback to apply and then you kind of need to very quickly, you, know, tour and apply and get all the right information in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:08:27] So there was a lot of units that we just missed because of that. And yeah, some other units, even though we went through the process, they never called us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:08:42] Thousands of people were technically on the wait list for this site because it’s not only SFUSD employees who can apply. They get priority here. Ms. Hernandez says that like over the last decade, she’s actually applied to a number of other affordable housing units through the city, but she’s never gotten one until now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:10] Coming up, how workforce housing for teachers is working in other districts around the Bay. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:10:23] I want to zoom out a little bit, Katie. Is this an idea that districts in say, maybe the East Bay or other parts of the Bay Area or California are also pursuing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:10:35] Yeah, actually Santa Clara Unified was one of the first school districts to build teacher housing back in the early 2000s and another district in San Mateo was one of the next to open up a pretty sizable development. Jefferson Union School District is a high school district in Pacifica and Daly City and they developed a 122 unit building that opened in 2022.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:11:06] We were seeing a staff turnover rate averaging around 25% annually. So, and with being the lowest funded high school district in San Mateo County, we had to be creative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:11:18] So Denise Shreve heads the housing program at Jefferson Union and she says throughout the 2010s, the district was losing and replacing about a quarter of its employees every year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:11:31] When we surveyed our staff, we found that the number one reason that they were leaving our district was long commutes and housing affordability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:11:49] Jefferson Union has definitely seen success. Denise said that now a quarter of their staff lives in the staff housing and their turnover is way down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:12:00] We had classrooms that were starting the school year without a teacher. We were having challenges hiring teachers, retaining teachers, and now the fact that we have staff housing is very attractive. We have had teachers that have left our district and now come back because we have stuff housing because they didn’t wanna leave our district, but they couldn’t afford to live here anymore, but now they’ve come back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:12:31] You did mention San Francisco Unified really funding their workforce housing through a combination of bonds and city money. How do they do it at Jefferson Union?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:12:43] At Jefferson Union, they actually are not funding it with the city, it’s more independent. So they passed a bond measure in 2018 that generated about $33 million, and then borrowed an additional $40 million through certificates of participation, which is a kind of municipal financing that’s kind of used as an alternative to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:09] Do you get the sense, Katie, that this model at Jefferson Union is replicable in other districts or for?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:13:17] Other districts in the Bay? Yes and no. I mean, to house 25% of staff, if you go back to San Francisco would be almost 2,000 people. So that’s a lot of housing you would have to build. I think building to scale in bigger districts is a major challenge. But in smaller districts like Jefferson Union, it has proven to be quite effective.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:45] Going back, Katie, to Ms. Hernandez at San Francisco Unified, she actually ended up getting a spot in the workforce housing development in San Francisco, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:13:59] Yeah, so last May she got a call that her family was selected for one of the last two bedroom units in Shirley Chisholm Village and they now live there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:14:17] You know, when they handed us the key and then we did the walkthrough at the beginning, I was just like, oh my god, it felt like I was dreaming. I was like, is this really our space? And then I was really happy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:14:30] The apartment complex itself is in the outer sunset, it’s surrounded by a lot of restaurants and coffee shops. It’s really close to Judah and the end Judah and it has really incredible views of Ocean Beach. Definitely being close to the beach was something really nice to have. Ms. Hernandez said that that was always kind of like a dream for her and her husband to live near the beach and they feel really lucky that now they can see it out of window.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:15:00] I mean even till this day I just don’t believe that I live here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:15:09] She said there are, with most housing situations, pros and cons, it’s still quite expensive and the apartment is actually smaller than the one they were in previously.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:15:21] I would say we probably got rid of half of our camping stuff. And then here, the bedrooms, I share a closet with my husband and it’s really tiny, so definitely smaller.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:15:35] But she said it feels like a home, like a permanent place for her family, and it’s hopefully going to allow them to stay in the Bay Area long enough for her son to finish school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:15:49] Yeah, I remember that day I picked him up from school, and then we just went to order pizza, and then, we brought him here as a surprise. We’re like, oh, guess what? This is gonna be your new house, you know? And so, he was like really happy. He couldn’t believe it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:16:02] It also has a lot of great amenities. Laundry, every unit I went in had a dishwasher. It has big bathrooms and a good amount of space. She feels like it’s a very safe area. It feels kind of like a home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:16:21] Yes I feel happy even though it’s a smaller space but you know it’s our home so we just make it work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:16:31] Well, Katie, what is it gonna take to scale up workforce housing like this for teachers, not just in San Francisco, but in the broader region where, I mean, it seems like a lot of teachers and districts are really struggling with this question of affordability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:16:50] That’s a good question. I think a lot of districts are kind of trying to figure out. Obviously it’s going to take more funding, which a lot of districts, are finding hard to come by right now. And also just making it easier or more enticing for developers to actually build this kind of housing. In 2019, San Francisco voters passed a proposition that amended the planning code to accelerate building affordable housing for teachers. But building in the city is still really hard. It’s expensive, it can take a long time. I mean, this has been a long-time coming. And they’re working on a second development, but it’s only gonna add another 75 units or so. There’s also other cities, like I mentioned, Oakland, considering a different route where they buy pre-existing residential buildings, which maybe means less of that building issue. BUT That is slow because it kind of relies on, over time, people moving out of their units and it being taken over by a teacher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:17:57] So in other words, even if you’re building housing for teachers, you’re still building housing in California, which will always take a long time. What is your sense though, Katie, from reporting on workforce housing? 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:54] I’m Ericka Cruz Guevara and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. Affordability has been a huge topic in negotiations between school districts and teachers unions, with teachers arguing that the high cost of living in the Bay Area makes it hard to stay here. One way districts are trying to help is by providing workforce housing for its educators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:01:26] It has improved their quality of life because they don’t have their long commutes and they also have mentioned that they are able to give more to their school community and their students because they aren’t.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:01:40] School districts are getting into the affordable housing game. And for the teachers who get a spot, it can be the difference between staying or leaving. Today, how workforce housing can help Bay Area teachers. I wonder if you can start by telling me actually about Miss Hernandez, who is she, and what is her story?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:18] So Ms. Hernandez is a para educator. She’s a classroom aid in the San Francisco Unified School District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:29] And we’re not using Ms. Hernandez’s full name because she has ongoing litigation with the previous landlord.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:02:40] We were renting a unit with my husband and we’ve been living there for at least 10 years or so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:02:49] She has been living in the Bay Area for the last 20 years, mostly in San Francisco, where we used to live.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:02:56] To leave. The house was pretty old, needed to have some updates and so we kind of like got tired of the situation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:06] Miss Hernandez’s son is in middle school and last year he started asking her, you know, where am I gonna go to high school? What is that gonna look like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:03:16] And I told him at that time, I’m sorry baby, but I don’t know, like, I don’t know if we’re gonna continue to be living in this city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:23] She said that was really hard because her and her husband at the time were kind of weighing moving out of state because housing was just getting so unaffordable in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:03:36] Sister did. She actually moved out of California. Yeah, having her move kind of made me realize, you know, maybe we need to take the step too. But then we have our son here and we were just trying really hard to to have him finish his studies here. And so it was a challenging time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:03:56] She says her family was spending a lot of money on rent, about $3,000, but they still didn’t feel super secure in their place. They lived in a two-bedroom in kind of the outer mission area. And she said they were tired of struggles with their landlord. They wanted to move into a neighborhood that felt safer in a unit with better amenities, but they really hadn’t been able to find any other apartments to move into.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:04:24] We haven’t gotten that lucky in the past with the lottery system. Even though we are like very tight in our budget, it’s not really, like we’re not considered low income. So it’s like, we’re kind of like in the middle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:43] You spent the last few weeks reporting on what is known as workforce housing for a KQED series called How We Get By, which explores the sort of creative extremes or compromises that folks make in order to live in the Bay Area. What exactly is workforce housing, Katie?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:05:07] So workforce housing isn’t a new concept. It’s existed for a long time. A lot of universities, for example, have programs that offer some kind of housing for their employees. Experts I spoke with even kind of said this has existed for long time in the public sector, even mentioning like the company town. One expert said even back to like building the railroads, they would have to. Build housing so that they could get employees to come work for them. It’s not uncommon for employers to do that, but it is a little bit more new for school districts. Basically, San Francisco has built a development that gives priority to teachers, but other like in Oakland, they’ve looked at buying residential buildings that already exist and transitioning those into housing for teachers. So there’s a couple of different ways of going about it, but basically it’s just providing more affordable housing to district employees in order to keep them here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:06:13] Does workforce housing look like in San Francisco and what kind of workforce housing is available, for example, to people like Ms. Hernandez?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:06:23] SFUSD, about a decade ago, announced that it was going to look into creating affordable housing for its employees in partnership with the city. And it identified a piece of property that it already owned, it used to be a school in the outer sunset for this first development, Shirley Chisholm Village. They’re funding it through both the city and the district with a combination of sources. Bonds, loans, federal tax credits, and affordable housing programs. And so it’s going through the city’s affordable housing system. And it is a four to five story building, depending on which side of the street you’re on, that has 135 housing units that are mostly filled with SFUSD employees, and they broke ground on this in 2022 and it opened in 2024. Right now, a one bedroom can be upwards of $3,500 a month versus a teacher who lives in Shirley Chisholm pays about $2,500.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:07:40] So I know Ms. Hernandez applied to live in one of these units. What was that process like for her? How does she describe it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:07:50] She said it was difficult. It’s challenging because you have to be available and you have get things done almost within like three to five days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:08:03] Applying to this development is kind of the same process as entering the lottery system for the city’s other affordable housing developments, which, you know, she says meant a lot of paperwork. A lot of those have long wait lists. You’re waiting for a callback to apply and then you kind of need to very quickly, you, know, tour and apply and get all the right information in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:08:27] So there was a lot of units that we just missed because of that. And yeah, some other units, even though we went through the process, they never called us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:08:42] Thousands of people were technically on the wait list for this site because it’s not only SFUSD employees who can apply. They get priority here. Ms. Hernandez says that like over the last decade, she’s actually applied to a number of other affordable housing units through the city, but she’s never gotten one until now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:10] Coming up, how workforce housing for teachers is working in other districts around the Bay. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:10:23] I want to zoom out a little bit, Katie. Is this an idea that districts in say, maybe the East Bay or other parts of the Bay Area or California are also pursuing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:10:35] Yeah, actually Santa Clara Unified was one of the first school districts to build teacher housing back in the early 2000s and another district in San Mateo was one of the next to open up a pretty sizable development. Jefferson Union School District is a high school district in Pacifica and Daly City and they developed a 122 unit building that opened in 2022.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:11:06] We were seeing a staff turnover rate averaging around 25% annually. So, and with being the lowest funded high school district in San Mateo County, we had to be creative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:11:18] So Denise Shreve heads the housing program at Jefferson Union and she says throughout the 2010s, the district was losing and replacing about a quarter of its employees every year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:11:31] When we surveyed our staff, we found that the number one reason that they were leaving our district was long commutes and housing affordability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:11:49] Jefferson Union has definitely seen success. Denise said that now a quarter of their staff lives in the staff housing and their turnover is way down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Denise Shreve \u003c/strong>[00:12:00] We had classrooms that were starting the school year without a teacher. We were having challenges hiring teachers, retaining teachers, and now the fact that we have staff housing is very attractive. We have had teachers that have left our district and now come back because we have stuff housing because they didn’t wanna leave our district, but they couldn’t afford to live here anymore, but now they’ve come back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:12:31] You did mention San Francisco Unified really funding their workforce housing through a combination of bonds and city money. How do they do it at Jefferson Union?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:12:43] At Jefferson Union, they actually are not funding it with the city, it’s more independent. So they passed a bond measure in 2018 that generated about $33 million, and then borrowed an additional $40 million through certificates of participation, which is a kind of municipal financing that’s kind of used as an alternative to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:09] Do you get the sense, Katie, that this model at Jefferson Union is replicable in other districts or for?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:13:17] Other districts in the Bay? Yes and no. I mean, to house 25% of staff, if you go back to San Francisco would be almost 2,000 people. So that’s a lot of housing you would have to build. I think building to scale in bigger districts is a major challenge. But in smaller districts like Jefferson Union, it has proven to be quite effective.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:45] Going back, Katie, to Ms. Hernandez at San Francisco Unified, she actually ended up getting a spot in the workforce housing development in San Francisco, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:13:59] Yeah, so last May she got a call that her family was selected for one of the last two bedroom units in Shirley Chisholm Village and they now live there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:14:17] You know, when they handed us the key and then we did the walkthrough at the beginning, I was just like, oh my god, it felt like I was dreaming. I was like, is this really our space? And then I was really happy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:14:30] The apartment complex itself is in the outer sunset, it’s surrounded by a lot of restaurants and coffee shops. It’s really close to Judah and the end Judah and it has really incredible views of Ocean Beach. Definitely being close to the beach was something really nice to have. Ms. Hernandez said that that was always kind of like a dream for her and her husband to live near the beach and they feel really lucky that now they can see it out of window.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:15:00] I mean even till this day I just don’t believe that I live here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:15:09] She said there are, with most housing situations, pros and cons, it’s still quite expensive and the apartment is actually smaller than the one they were in previously.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:15:21] I would say we probably got rid of half of our camping stuff. And then here, the bedrooms, I share a closet with my husband and it’s really tiny, so definitely smaller.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:15:35] But she said it feels like a home, like a permanent place for her family, and it’s hopefully going to allow them to stay in the Bay Area long enough for her son to finish school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:15:49] Yeah, I remember that day I picked him up from school, and then we just went to order pizza, and then, we brought him here as a surprise. We’re like, oh, guess what? This is gonna be your new house, you know? And so, he was like really happy. He couldn’t believe it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:16:02] It also has a lot of great amenities. Laundry, every unit I went in had a dishwasher. It has big bathrooms and a good amount of space. She feels like it’s a very safe area. It feels kind of like a home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ms. Hernandez \u003c/strong>[00:16:21] Yes I feel happy even though it’s a smaller space but you know it’s our home so we just make it work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:16:31] Well, Katie, what is it gonna take to scale up workforce housing like this for teachers, not just in San Francisco, but in the broader region where, I mean, it seems like a lot of teachers and districts are really struggling with this question of affordability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie DeBenedetti \u003c/strong>[00:16:50] That’s a good question. I think a lot of districts are kind of trying to figure out. Obviously it’s going to take more funding, which a lot of districts, are finding hard to come by right now. And also just making it easier or more enticing for developers to actually build this kind of housing. 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SFUSD plans to continue using its middle school course materials, though they will be refurbished to reflect the current day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The vote comes four years after SFUSD began a process in which central office educators reviewed available curriculum programs and an 80-person team of school site educators and community members evaluated the top selections.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the last two school years, 40 elementary school classrooms and 35 high school classrooms have piloted the top options, which the district has recommended for adoption. The overhaul is expected to cost the district about $7.3 million for the next five years of physical and digital course materials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the middle school level, SFUSD said none of the programs that were evaluated surpassed the performance of the current program, TCI’s \u003cem>History Alive\u003c/em>. The district said it will continue to use \u003cem>History Alive\u003c/em> while continuing to review newly released instructional materials.[aside postID=news_12054363 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250418-SFUSD-04-BL_qed.jpg']The social science curriculum changes follow similar program overhauls for English language arts and mathematics. In 2024, SFUSD adopted a new language arts core curriculum for pre-kindergarten through eighth grade, and in the fall, it rolled out a new math curriculum for kindergarten through eighth grade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I am proud to follow through on our promise to provide a world-class education for every student — this is about making sure that we are setting our students up for success today and into the future,” Su said in a statement announcing the curriculum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The board will also vote on standardized ninth-grade ethnic studies course materials, after the district’s homegrown curriculum, developed by educators over the last 15 years, caused controversy last summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SFUSD has been lauded as a leader in ethnic studies throughout the state, first introducing the course as an elective in 2010 and making it a yearlong requirement for ninth graders in 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Studies showed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12046122/sfusd-was-a-pioneer-in-ethnic-studies-now-the-program-could-be-put-on-pause\">improved graduation outcomes\u003c/a> for students who took the course, and the district’s success was cited by state lawmakers when they enacted a mandate for California public schools to require a semester of ethnic studies in 2021. That policy was set to take effect last year, but it hasn’t been implemented due to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/education/k-12-education/2025/09/ethnic-studies-california/#:~:text=California%20passed%20the%20ethnic%20studies,such%20as%20Hmong%20or%20Armenian.\">budget constraints\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco’s course came under scrutiny last year following multiple reports from the national group Parents Defending Education, which has opposed lessons about racism, social justice, sexual orientation and gender identity. 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The district said the \u003cem>Voices\u003c/em> curriculum was the only one reviewed by an evaluation committee, which included 16 ethnic studies teachers and 15 other district educators, plus a handful of community members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Su said it’s been well-received thus far, which is why she’s choosing to recommend it for permanent use.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The school board is set to vote on the curriculum changes on April 28.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Generally, school districts update their curriculum every six to 10 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Su said the overhaul will include lesson planning materials to teach modern world history and social science, meaning teachers will no longer have to augment the curriculum to cover events in the 21st century.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We can’t be a world-class school district if we’re using a curriculum that is 20 years old,” she said. “Our students deserve to have updated materials that really embrace the new way of thinking in our city, in our state, in our country.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053747\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053747\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250818-SFUSDFirstDay-20_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250818-SFUSDFirstDay-20_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250818-SFUSDFirstDay-20_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250818-SFUSDFirstDay-20_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Superintendent Maria Su speaks to students at Sanchez Elementary School on the first day of classes for the new school year in San Francisco on Aug. 18, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The new elementary and high school curriculum from InquirEd and McGraw-Hill will go before a San Francisco Unified School District board of education vote later this month, on the district’s recommendation. SFUSD plans to continue using its middle school course materials, though they will be refurbished to reflect the current day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The vote comes four years after SFUSD began a process in which central office educators reviewed available curriculum programs and an 80-person team of school site educators and community members evaluated the top selections.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the last two school years, 40 elementary school classrooms and 35 high school classrooms have piloted the top options, which the district has recommended for adoption. The overhaul is expected to cost the district about $7.3 million for the next five years of physical and digital course materials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the middle school level, SFUSD said none of the programs that were evaluated surpassed the performance of the current program, TCI’s \u003cem>History Alive\u003c/em>. The district said it will continue to use \u003cem>History Alive\u003c/em> while continuing to review newly released instructional materials.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The social science curriculum changes follow similar program overhauls for English language arts and mathematics. In 2024, SFUSD adopted a new language arts core curriculum for pre-kindergarten through eighth grade, and in the fall, it rolled out a new math curriculum for kindergarten through eighth grade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I am proud to follow through on our promise to provide a world-class education for every student — this is about making sure that we are setting our students up for success today and into the future,” Su said in a statement announcing the curriculum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The board will also vote on standardized ninth-grade ethnic studies course materials, after the district’s homegrown curriculum, developed by educators over the last 15 years, caused controversy last summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SFUSD has been lauded as a leader in ethnic studies throughout the state, first introducing the course as an elective in 2010 and making it a yearlong requirement for ninth graders in 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Studies showed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12046122/sfusd-was-a-pioneer-in-ethnic-studies-now-the-program-could-be-put-on-pause\">improved graduation outcomes\u003c/a> for students who took the course, and the district’s success was cited by state lawmakers when they enacted a mandate for California public schools to require a semester of ethnic studies in 2021. That policy was set to take effect last year, but it hasn’t been implemented due to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/education/k-12-education/2025/09/ethnic-studies-california/#:~:text=California%20passed%20the%20ethnic%20studies,such%20as%20Hmong%20or%20Armenian.\">budget constraints\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco’s course came under scrutiny last year following multiple reports from the national group Parents Defending Education, which has opposed lessons about racism, social justice, sexual orientation and gender identity. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12069967/mayor-lurie-on-san-francisco-we-are-on-our-way-back-but-we-still-have-work-to-do\">San Franciscans\u003c/a> love to gather at Dolores Park to watch the skyline glow at sunset. The hard edges of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11934056/the-transamerica-pyramid-at-50-from-architectural-butchery-to-icon\">Transamerica Pyramid\u003c/a> catch the light. Then the San Francisco Marriott Marquis, with its Art Deco-inspired windows, and finally, the spiraling silvery-grey of the Salesforce Tower.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But when Mary Ellen Carroll looks out at the skyline and rows of Victorian homes with soft-story ground floors, she’s filled with anxiety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I see all these people, all these buildings, and the extent of the need that could occur after a big earthquake,” said Carroll, executive director of the San Francisco Department of Emergency Management. “How many people are ready for that?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That “heavy responsibility” for Carroll shakes up every April 18, the anniversary of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/10930485/see-how-san-francisco-rebuilt-110-years-after-the-1906-quake\">1906 earthquake\u003c/a>. This year marks 120 years since the magnitude 7.9 rupture along the San Andreas fault roughly two miles offshore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The quake and the fires that followed killed 3,000 people, leveled much of San Francisco and left more than half the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13898345/the-1906-earthquake-survivor-who-fought-for-san-franciscos-homeless-population\">city’s residents unhoused\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080164\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080164\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-01-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-01-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-01-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-01-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mary Ellen Carroll, executive director of the San Francisco Department of Emergency Management, at her office in San Francisco City Hall on April 15, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The anniversary reminds Carroll that the Bay Area remains extremely vulnerable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s a 72% chance that a magnitude 6.7 earthquake or stronger will occur here in the next three decades, according to \u003ca href=\"https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-probability-earthquake-will-occur-los-angeles-area-san-francisco-bay-area#:~:text=San%20Francisco%20Bay%20area%3A,an%20earthquake%20measuring%20magnitude%207.5\">a 2014 analysis\u003c/a> from the United States Geological Survey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the earth shakes wildly again, it will do so in a Bay Area transformed from 1906, now home to a population more than 10 times larger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080264\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1973px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080264\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/240416-1906-san-francisco-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1973\" height=\"1424\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/240416-1906-san-francisco-KQED.jpg 1973w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/240416-1906-san-francisco-KQED-160x115.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/240416-1906-san-francisco-KQED-1536x1109.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1973px) 100vw, 1973px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">This photograph, taken by George Lawrence from a series of kites five weeks after the great earthquake of April 18, 1906, shows the devastation brought on the city of San Francisco by the quake and subsequent fire. The view is looking over Nob Hill toward the business district, South of the Slot, and the distant Mission. The Fairmont Hotel, far left. dwarfs the Call Building. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Harry Myers)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>San Francisco spent more than $20 billion on seismic upgrades over the past several decades. The money went to \u003ca href=\"https://data.sfgov.org/Housing-and-Buildings/Map-of-Soft-Story-Properties/jwdp-cqyc\">retrofitting older brick and wood buildings\u003c/a>, seismic improvements to infrastructure, constructing new, safe hospitals, police and fire stations and strengthening emergency response systems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But a \u003ca href=\"https://www.spur.org/publications/policy-brief/2026-04-09/120-years-after-1906\">new policy brief from the Bay Area think tank SPUR\u003c/a> warns that more than 3,700 pre-1995 concrete buildings — concentrated downtown — could face significant risk, and some fire hazards have gone unaddressed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There would definitely be buildings that could collapse,” said Sarah Atkinson, author of the report.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080162\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080162\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-03-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-03-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-03-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-03-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sarah Atkinson, a hazard resilience senior policy manager at the San Francisco Bay Area Planning and Urban Research Association (SPUR), at the organization’s offices in San Francisco on April 13, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The state has significantly improved its early warning system, too. While phone applications and alerts give people an \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/2000568/after-4-6-earthquake-jolts-santa-cruz-seismologists-double-down-on-myshake-alerts\">extra moment to drop and hold on\u003c/a>, they do little to improve a building’s seismic safety. Some researchers point to evidence that a much larger earthquake than the 1906 quake could shake the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carroll said most San Franciscans cannot grasp what a colossal rattling will feel like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s going to take an earthquake for us to take an earthquake seriously,” Carroll said. “There will be catastrophic damage. It will interrupt the economy, likely take lives, and we’ll take considerable time to recover.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘A big earthquake can happen again’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Predicting where the next damaging Bay Area earthquake isn’t an exact science. Seismologists know a lot about faults: their general size, stress and history. But scientists can’t tell exactly when or where a rupture will occur.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beneath the region, there lie many medium- to large-faults, including the San Andreas and Hayward faults, as well as many smaller fissures. Evan Hirakawa, a USGS research geophysicist, said seismologists are watching the Hayward Fault, which runs beneath the East Bay Hills, because it has the highest likelihood of a major earthquake.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Andreas has a lower probability because it experienced an intense quake a little more than a century ago, which is “recently” in geologic time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080165\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080165\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-02-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-02-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-02-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-02-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A view of high-rises in downtown San Francisco from Salesforce Park on April 15, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But an impressive quake could also happen on a separate fracture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We see these old black and white pictures of people in 1906, dealing with the rubble, but in some ways [the next big quake] might not be that different,” Hirakawa said. “People should know that a big earthquake can happen again.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephen Sherman Wade was 8 years old and living in Southern California when the 1994 Northridge earthquake shook his family’s home for more than 20 seconds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Beds shuddered against the wall,” Wade said. “It was terrifying.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After moving to San Francisco’s SoMa neighborhood in 2020, he made it a priority to find a home that was seismically safe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“No building is ever going to be 100% structurally sound against an earthquake,” Wade said, “but you can build pretty well for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘We still have a lot of work to do’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>San Francisco’s earthquake dilemma is long-standing. The SPUR brief states that 60% of the city’s buildings were constructed prior to 1940, “without consideration for modern earthquake codes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many are made of concrete, and in previous quakes elsewhere, similar buildings “pancaked on themselves,” causing “a lot of deaths,” Atkinson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 1992, San Francisco developed a seismic hazard rating system to assess more than 200 city-owned buildings, using a 1-to-4 scale (best to worst). The city is still \u003ca href=\"https://onesanfrancisco.org/the-plan-2018/building-our-future-earthquakes#:~:text=Seismic%20Hazard%20Ratings%20(SHRs)%20were,prioritization%20of%20seismically%20vulnerable%20structures.\">working to address\u003c/a> many at-risk buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080328\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 1212px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080328\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-SPUR-Map-KQED.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1212\" height=\"820\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-SPUR-Map-KQED.png 1212w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-SPUR-Map-KQED-160x108.png 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1212px) 100vw, 1212px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A new policy brief from the Bay Area think tank SPUR warns that more than 3,700 pre-1995 concrete buildings could face significant risk if a large earthquake were to occur near San Francisco. The map highlighted in the SPUR reporter is sourced from the City and County of San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of SPUR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Officials are now turning to concrete buildings and requiring owners to self-report to staff by June 2027. The thousands of commercial, government, industrial and multi-family buildings are scattered throughout the city, but a concentrated block is in downtown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the emergency services side, Carroll’s team is modernizing the city’s earthquake plan, transforming a big binder of scenarios into actionable lists that staff can also pull up on their phones during a disaster. The update is due by the end of the year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simultaneously, the city is asking voters to approve a \u003ca href=\"https://sfpublicworks.org/eser-2026#:~:text=The%20previous%20three%20ESER%20bonds,progress%20to%20protect%20San%20Francisco.\">$535 million bond\u003c/a> in June. The measure would fund seismic upgrades to fire stations, police stations, the 911 center, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12060130/san-francisco-reveals-new-earthquake-firefighting-system-36-years-after-loma-prieta\">emergency firefighting water system\u003c/a>, and improvements to the bus system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve touched every neighborhood in the city, and we still have a lot of work to do, which is why another bond is coming up,” said Brian Strong, the city’s chief resilience officer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there’s a new complication, he said. The city cannot rely on federal disaster aid under the Trump administration, and city budget constraints are limiting its office’s capacity to focus on seismic issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to start making investments upfront so that when an earthquake happens, we don’t need to have that sort of high level of support from the federal government,” Strong said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘It’s a known limitation of earthquake warning’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Robert Olshansky remembers when there was no early earthquake warning system. Phones didn’t blare in the middle of the night, agencies didn’t text warnings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Olshansky was rocked by a moderate-sized tremor in Southern California in 1971 and lived in North Berkeley during the Loma Prieta quake in 1989. By contrast, the 1906 quake released about 16 times as much energy as the Loma Prieta quake, according \u003ca href=\"https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/events/1906calif/18april/got_seismogram_lp.php\">to the USGS\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080163\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080163\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-07-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-07-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-07-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-07-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The San Francisco Bay Area Planning and Urban Research Association (SPUR) offices in San Francisco on April 13, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At the time, Olshansky was about to put his home on the market that weekend so he and his family could move out of state. When he got home early from work, the house began to shake. His impulse was to run out, but he froze and endured the shaking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I turned on the news to try and find out what happened, but it wasn’t clear at first,” Olshansky said. “There was the Bay Bridge, there was a fire in the Mission District. We were seeing all these bits of news.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, systems like the MyShake app developed by UC Berkeley’s Seismology Lab can send alerts within seven seconds of a magnitude 4.5 earthquake or larger. But in the case of a “1906-type earthquake,” communities closest to the epicenter will likely get no warning, said Angie Lux, a project scientist for earthquake warning with the lab.[aside postID=news_11999982 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/MyShakeUCBerkeley-1020x679.jpg']“It’s a known limitation of earthquake warning, but I don’t think that it makes the system not useful,” Lux said. “Just having that warning means that people take action faster.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there might be another signal for some large quakes in Northern California. Chris Goldfinger, a marine geologist at Oregon State University, published a study last fall that found \u003ca href=\"https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/geosphere/article/21/6/1132/661517/Unravelling-the-dance-of-earthquakes-Evidence-of?searchresult=1\">large earthquakes likely occurred in\u003c/a> sync along the West Coast’s two major faults — the San Andreas and the Cascadia Subduction Zone — over the past 3,000 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The faults rupturing together may produce “shaking that could actually be stronger than 1906,” and after the Cascadia moves, the San Andreas could follow within “minutes to hours to days” and up to 50 years, Goldfinger said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That would give you more than the few seconds that you’d get now from the early warning system we have,” Goldfinger said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the Bay Area will eventually jolt harder than people have experienced in modern history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s definitely going to happen,” Goldfinger said. “It is just really a question of when and a question of how prepared we will be for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That “heavy responsibility” for Carroll shakes up every April 18, the anniversary of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/10930485/see-how-san-francisco-rebuilt-110-years-after-the-1906-quake\">1906 earthquake\u003c/a>. This year marks 120 years since the magnitude 7.9 rupture along the San Andreas fault roughly two miles offshore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The quake and the fires that followed killed 3,000 people, leveled much of San Francisco and left more than half the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13898345/the-1906-earthquake-survivor-who-fought-for-san-franciscos-homeless-population\">city’s residents unhoused\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080164\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080164\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-01-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-01-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-01-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-01-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mary Ellen Carroll, executive director of the San Francisco Department of Emergency Management, at her office in San Francisco City Hall on April 15, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The anniversary reminds Carroll that the Bay Area remains extremely vulnerable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s a 72% chance that a magnitude 6.7 earthquake or stronger will occur here in the next three decades, according to \u003ca href=\"https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-probability-earthquake-will-occur-los-angeles-area-san-francisco-bay-area#:~:text=San%20Francisco%20Bay%20area%3A,an%20earthquake%20measuring%20magnitude%207.5\">a 2014 analysis\u003c/a> from the United States Geological Survey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the earth shakes wildly again, it will do so in a Bay Area transformed from 1906, now home to a population more than 10 times larger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080264\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1973px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080264\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/240416-1906-san-francisco-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1973\" height=\"1424\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/240416-1906-san-francisco-KQED.jpg 1973w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/240416-1906-san-francisco-KQED-160x115.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/240416-1906-san-francisco-KQED-1536x1109.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1973px) 100vw, 1973px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">This photograph, taken by George Lawrence from a series of kites five weeks after the great earthquake of April 18, 1906, shows the devastation brought on the city of San Francisco by the quake and subsequent fire. The view is looking over Nob Hill toward the business district, South of the Slot, and the distant Mission. The Fairmont Hotel, far left. dwarfs the Call Building. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Harry Myers)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>San Francisco spent more than $20 billion on seismic upgrades over the past several decades. The money went to \u003ca href=\"https://data.sfgov.org/Housing-and-Buildings/Map-of-Soft-Story-Properties/jwdp-cqyc\">retrofitting older brick and wood buildings\u003c/a>, seismic improvements to infrastructure, constructing new, safe hospitals, police and fire stations and strengthening emergency response systems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But a \u003ca href=\"https://www.spur.org/publications/policy-brief/2026-04-09/120-years-after-1906\">new policy brief from the Bay Area think tank SPUR\u003c/a> warns that more than 3,700 pre-1995 concrete buildings — concentrated downtown — could face significant risk, and some fire hazards have gone unaddressed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There would definitely be buildings that could collapse,” said Sarah Atkinson, author of the report.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080162\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080162\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-03-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-03-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-03-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-03-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sarah Atkinson, a hazard resilience senior policy manager at the San Francisco Bay Area Planning and Urban Research Association (SPUR), at the organization’s offices in San Francisco on April 13, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The state has significantly improved its early warning system, too. While phone applications and alerts give people an \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/2000568/after-4-6-earthquake-jolts-santa-cruz-seismologists-double-down-on-myshake-alerts\">extra moment to drop and hold on\u003c/a>, they do little to improve a building’s seismic safety. Some researchers point to evidence that a much larger earthquake than the 1906 quake could shake the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carroll said most San Franciscans cannot grasp what a colossal rattling will feel like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s going to take an earthquake for us to take an earthquake seriously,” Carroll said. “There will be catastrophic damage. It will interrupt the economy, likely take lives, and we’ll take considerable time to recover.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘A big earthquake can happen again’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Predicting where the next damaging Bay Area earthquake isn’t an exact science. Seismologists know a lot about faults: their general size, stress and history. But scientists can’t tell exactly when or where a rupture will occur.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beneath the region, there lie many medium- to large-faults, including the San Andreas and Hayward faults, as well as many smaller fissures. Evan Hirakawa, a USGS research geophysicist, said seismologists are watching the Hayward Fault, which runs beneath the East Bay Hills, because it has the highest likelihood of a major earthquake.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Andreas has a lower probability because it experienced an intense quake a little more than a century ago, which is “recently” in geologic time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080165\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080165\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-02-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-02-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-02-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260415-SPUREARTHQUAKE-02-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A view of high-rises in downtown San Francisco from Salesforce Park on April 15, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But an impressive quake could also happen on a separate fracture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We see these old black and white pictures of people in 1906, dealing with the rubble, but in some ways [the next big quake] might not be that different,” Hirakawa said. “People should know that a big earthquake can happen again.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stephen Sherman Wade was 8 years old and living in Southern California when the 1994 Northridge earthquake shook his family’s home for more than 20 seconds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Beds shuddered against the wall,” Wade said. “It was terrifying.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After moving to San Francisco’s SoMa neighborhood in 2020, he made it a priority to find a home that was seismically safe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“No building is ever going to be 100% structurally sound against an earthquake,” Wade said, “but you can build pretty well for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘We still have a lot of work to do’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>San Francisco’s earthquake dilemma is long-standing. The SPUR brief states that 60% of the city’s buildings were constructed prior to 1940, “without consideration for modern earthquake codes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many are made of concrete, and in previous quakes elsewhere, similar buildings “pancaked on themselves,” causing “a lot of deaths,” Atkinson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 1992, San Francisco developed a seismic hazard rating system to assess more than 200 city-owned buildings, using a 1-to-4 scale (best to worst). The city is still \u003ca href=\"https://onesanfrancisco.org/the-plan-2018/building-our-future-earthquakes#:~:text=Seismic%20Hazard%20Ratings%20(SHRs)%20were,prioritization%20of%20seismically%20vulnerable%20structures.\">working to address\u003c/a> many at-risk buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080328\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 1212px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080328\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-SPUR-Map-KQED.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1212\" height=\"820\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-SPUR-Map-KQED.png 1212w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260416-SPUR-Map-KQED-160x108.png 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1212px) 100vw, 1212px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A new policy brief from the Bay Area think tank SPUR warns that more than 3,700 pre-1995 concrete buildings could face significant risk if a large earthquake were to occur near San Francisco. The map highlighted in the SPUR reporter is sourced from the City and County of San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of SPUR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Officials are now turning to concrete buildings and requiring owners to self-report to staff by June 2027. The thousands of commercial, government, industrial and multi-family buildings are scattered throughout the city, but a concentrated block is in downtown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the emergency services side, Carroll’s team is modernizing the city’s earthquake plan, transforming a big binder of scenarios into actionable lists that staff can also pull up on their phones during a disaster. The update is due by the end of the year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simultaneously, the city is asking voters to approve a \u003ca href=\"https://sfpublicworks.org/eser-2026#:~:text=The%20previous%20three%20ESER%20bonds,progress%20to%20protect%20San%20Francisco.\">$535 million bond\u003c/a> in June. The measure would fund seismic upgrades to fire stations, police stations, the 911 center, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12060130/san-francisco-reveals-new-earthquake-firefighting-system-36-years-after-loma-prieta\">emergency firefighting water system\u003c/a>, and improvements to the bus system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve touched every neighborhood in the city, and we still have a lot of work to do, which is why another bond is coming up,” said Brian Strong, the city’s chief resilience officer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there’s a new complication, he said. The city cannot rely on federal disaster aid under the Trump administration, and city budget constraints are limiting its office’s capacity to focus on seismic issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to start making investments upfront so that when an earthquake happens, we don’t need to have that sort of high level of support from the federal government,” Strong said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘It’s a known limitation of earthquake warning’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Robert Olshansky remembers when there was no early earthquake warning system. Phones didn’t blare in the middle of the night, agencies didn’t text warnings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Olshansky was rocked by a moderate-sized tremor in Southern California in 1971 and lived in North Berkeley during the Loma Prieta quake in 1989. By contrast, the 1906 quake released about 16 times as much energy as the Loma Prieta quake, according \u003ca href=\"https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/events/1906calif/18april/got_seismogram_lp.php\">to the USGS\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080163\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080163\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-07-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-07-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-07-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260413-SPUREARTHQUAKE-07-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The San Francisco Bay Area Planning and Urban Research Association (SPUR) offices in San Francisco on April 13, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At the time, Olshansky was about to put his home on the market that weekend so he and his family could move out of state. When he got home early from work, the house began to shake. His impulse was to run out, but he froze and endured the shaking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I turned on the news to try and find out what happened, but it wasn’t clear at first,” Olshansky said. “There was the Bay Bridge, there was a fire in the Mission District. We were seeing all these bits of news.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, systems like the MyShake app developed by UC Berkeley’s Seismology Lab can send alerts within seven seconds of a magnitude 4.5 earthquake or larger. But in the case of a “1906-type earthquake,” communities closest to the epicenter will likely get no warning, said Angie Lux, a project scientist for earthquake warning with the lab.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“It’s a known limitation of earthquake warning, but I don’t think that it makes the system not useful,” Lux said. “Just having that warning means that people take action faster.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there might be another signal for some large quakes in Northern California. Chris Goldfinger, a marine geologist at Oregon State University, published a study last fall that found \u003ca href=\"https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/geosphere/article/21/6/1132/661517/Unravelling-the-dance-of-earthquakes-Evidence-of?searchresult=1\">large earthquakes likely occurred in\u003c/a> sync along the West Coast’s two major faults — the San Andreas and the Cascadia Subduction Zone — over the past 3,000 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The faults rupturing together may produce “shaking that could actually be stronger than 1906,” and after the Cascadia moves, the San Andreas could follow within “minutes to hours to days” and up to 50 years, Goldfinger said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That would give you more than the few seconds that you’d get now from the early warning system we have,” Goldfinger said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the Bay Area will eventually jolt harder than people have experienced in modern history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s definitely going to happen,” Goldfinger said. “It is just really a question of when and a question of how prepared we will be for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Early Thursday morning, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/san-francisco\">San Francisco\u003c/a> park rangers found an unexpected visitor on the streets of the Outer Sunset.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A 10-month-old California sea lion pup had wandered onto the corner of 48th Avenue and Irving Street after an unusual overnight adventure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s likely that this young sea lion came ashore at Ocean Beach,” said Giancarlo Rulli, a spokesperson for the Marine Mammal Center, which aided in his rescue. “We’re not 100% certain why it would have made its way up a stairwell, crossing the Great Highway and then ending up just an avenue or two down.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recreation and Park Department rangers, San Francisco police and a Marine Mammal Center volunteer worked together to corral the pup — now named Irving — into a carrier crate and transfer him to a nearby ranger station for the night. Rulli said he was taken up to the Marine Mammal Center’s hospital in Sausalito on Thursday for further medical examination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The young pup had likely just begun foraging on his own, Rulli said, since most spend the first six to nine months of their lives staying close to their mothers before becoming independent.[aside postID=news_12040111 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/GettyImages-517005006_qed-1020x680.jpg']“Young California sea lions, especially in their first year or first months, in this case, of foraging on their own … have really have quite kind of an uphill challenge to try and find food sources,” he said. “It’s not necessarily uncommon to see younger malnourished sea lion pups that haven’t taken to developing these important skills out in the open ocean to wind up in areas that would seem out of habitat.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Irving is about 40 pounds — half of the normal weight of a pup his age, according to Rulli. On Friday, the Marine Mammal Center conducted an admission exam and was waiting for further blood testing to determine if he has any underlying ailments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If his temperament is any indication, though, Rulli said Irving looked pretty good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“During [his] exams, this young sea lion was very active and quite feisty,” Rulli said. “Which, in terms of positive initial signs, is generally something that we’re looking for.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rulli said Irving is still early in the rehabilitation process and is still being tube-fed. No long-term plan for his release has been set yet, but usually malnourished pups remain at the Marine Mammal Center for six to ten weeks, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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