KQED’s Forum spoke to experts about how American children became such picky eaters — and what parents can do about it. (Steve Liss/Getty Images)
Chicken nuggets, mac and cheese, hamburgers and fries are all staples of children’s menus in restaurants across the country today — an easy, appealing choice for the young ones at the table.
But Helen Zoe Veit, associate professor of history at Michigan State University, said that in the 1930s, those foods weren’t common menu items.
“You see a lot of lamb. You see a lot of spinach. You see prunes,” Veit said. “And the idea was this is normal kids’ food back then.”
In her new book, Picky: How American Children Became the Fussiest Eaters in History, Veit argues that kids used to be much more adventurous eaters than they are today. But a mixture of lifestyle and parenting changes, marketing and the rise of processed foods has made American children very selective eaters.
“The real mission behind the book is to get a more expansive sense back into our culture of what kids are capable of liking,” she said recently on KQED’s Forum program. “Far from the myth that we have that, ‘OK, maybe you could force your kid to hatefully accept these foods.’”
A mixture of lifestyle and parenting changes, marketing and the rise of processed foods has made American children very selective eaters, according to Helen Zoe Veit, associate professor of history at Michigan State University (Smith Collection/Gado/Getty Images)
“To get us back toward this idea of teaching kids to love diverse foods. To get actual, authentic pleasure and a much bigger sense of pleasure back into kids’ food,” she said.
Forum spoke to Veit and UC Davis pediatrician Dr. Erik Fernandez y Garcia about how children became such picky eaters — and what parents can do to encourage more adventurous eating.
This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.
Mina Kim: So, how did American children use to eat? Has it always been like this?
Veit: Americans, in general, in let’s say the 19th century, ate so much more diversely than we do today in terms of species.
They ate an incredible variety of plant species, a lot more heirloom varieties, wild plants, lots more animal species than we do — all sorts of different kinds of birds, and fish, and shellfish and organ meats. And the crucial thing is that children, with very few exceptions, generally ate what their parents were eating.
The even more crucial part is that they weren’t just eating the food. Everybody agreed they liked it. There was a broad idea that kids love to eat. They’re naturally omnivorous.
When we think today why did kids eat more broadly in the past, we usually make two assumptions. One is scarcity. We imagine, “OK, there wasn’t enough food to go around, so kids were forcing down hated foods as the only alternative to starvation.” Or we might imagine it was harsh discipline.
And the fascinating thing from history is that, really, neither is true. Now, that being said, hunger is important. And there were plenty of people in the past who were poor. There were desperately poor people in America, and poor kids, by all accounts, ate eagerly. However, middle-class kids, children of the wealthiest families, farm children who were living in situations of abundance, they were eating eagerly, too.
They were doing more chores, they were walking more, they were spending more time outside, and they weren’t snacking much. Snacks were logistically hard. Before you had plastics, highly processed food, and refrigerators, there wasn’t a whole lot of edible food available between meals. So kids showed up to meals with really big appetites.
I’m not advocating for a return to some of the child labor practices that were going on. But certainly, probably, there are lots of kids who would be happier if they were moving around more during the day. We know exercise is important for all of us.
How would you characterize kids’ eating habits today?
Veit: Many parents are just trying to do the best they possibly can to feed their kids. They want their kids to be happy, they want to please their children.
And they’ve gotten a lot of marketing messages and other messages. There are a lot of myths swirling about children’s foods, that to please our kids, we have to feed them a pretty narrow range of foods. There are a lot of products in the supermarket that are geared specifically toward kids. Children’s food has become its own genre.
The irony for me is that so much of modern kids’ food is actually about displeasure. It’s about helping kids avoid all of these foods that they’re supposedly incapable of liking.
How do you think modern parenting influenced these kinds of habits?
Veit: Parenting around food is so hard today. For many families, it’s the hardest thing about parenting. And that’s not something I say lightly.
And that is because parents have been put in this impossible position. On the one hand, they’ve been told, “Be so careful about talking to your kids about food. Never push them to eat anything in particular. Kids are natural rebels. If you push them to eat something, they will develop lifelong aversions.”
In the previous generations, kids were acquiring taste as soon as they were learning to eat, according to Helen Zoe Veit, associate professor of history at Michigan State University. (Tang Ming Tung/Getty Images)
[Or] “If you pushed them to a particular quantity, they’ll never develop a sense of authentic fullness, and that will lead to overeating and maybe obesity.” Or, “If you make food too emotional or too stressful, that could lead to disordered eating, even eating disorders.” Parents are so scared about doing the wrong thing.
But at the same time, they’re told kids’ health is actually really important. Childhood obesity rates are rising. Children are developing these chronic diseases in childhood, such as type 2 diabetes, heart problems, high blood pressure, all of these things that in the past were rare. Parents feel paralyzed. They don’t know what to do. They feel stuck. A lot of parents today have the sense that children need special, separate meals.
How do processed meals come into the mix? How did that influence how kids eat?
Veit: The flood of highly processed foods into many American homes in the mid-20th century is another big factor in establishing new expectations for how easy it might be for children to like foods.
Today, if you hear that something’s an acquired taste, we think that means it’s an adult food. That’s synonymous with adulthood for us. In the previous generations, kids were acquiring taste as soon as they were learning to eat.
But once highly processed foods enter American homes, it’s clear that there are lots of foods kids don’t have to acquire the taste for. They like them instantly. And so it becomes less of a natural part of many families’ lives to try to teach kids to like food over an extended period of time. At the same time, psychologists start telling parents that it’s psychologically risky to talk to your kids too much about what they should eat.
Marketing played a huge role. Marketing just was shamelessly directed at kids in the 1950s, ’60s, ’70s, even in ways that today we’d probably be a little uncomfortable with.
Why is there this emphasis on children’s food needing to be bland?
Veit: Back in the 19th century, a lot of children got sick and died. The number one cause of death was epidemic disease. But the number two cause was unrefrigerated food and food poisoning.
But the problem was that back in the 19th century, before the last part of the century, Americans didn’t know about germs. They didn’t know about viruses, microbes, contagion. They didn’t understand how this worked.
There was this group of reformers saying, “It must be the food.” The very fact that children were such broad eaters, they didn’t see that as fabulous back then. These reformers said, “I think it’s all this diverse food, this over-stimulating food.” It’s what we today would see as pseudoscience.
There was this real advocacy campaign to encourage parents to feed their children blander food. Now, not a lot of parents listened back in the 19th century.
These were relatively fringy ideas, but they started to catch on much more broadly in the early 20th century. By then, it was less about preventing child death, since germ theory was being established and mortality rates were falling. But it was more about protecting children’s supposedly vulnerable stomachs.
How does the taste of the food come into play?
Veit: It’s almost hard as a cultural historian to say this, but I do think deliciousness matters. So, on the one hand, highly processed food is flooding into Americans’ homes [in the mid-20th century.] It’s been designed in laboratories to be really palatable, to be salty, sweet, fatty, melty, crunchy, to have all of these properties that we really love at the same time.
Cooking styles had changed. So a lot of the vegetables were frozen or canned, or even the ones that were nominally fresh, they’d been shipped across the country or sometimes the world. They’d been stored for long periods of time. They weren’t as flavorful or fresh as the vegetables enjoyed in previous generations.
Students learn how to cut vegetables for a salad at the North Bay Children’s Center in Novato on Aug. 27, 2025. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)
I do think cooking can be a really important tool. Now, of course, that leads to all sorts of other questions, like time. Do we have time to cook? How are our work-life balances structured? How are families structured? Who is doing this work? It also leads to things like, do we know how to cook in the first place?
One of the many things that I think could help with pickiness and maybe with life in general is if we reintroduced cooking classes to public schools. This is another thing that used to happen in the past. Of course, it used to be pretty gendered through home economics programs, at least in the mid-20th century. But we could reimagine public education to include this, maybe most basic of life skills.
How is this an American phenomenon — and is it spreading?
Veit: There’s so much to learn from other countries. Now, that being said, pickiness is spreading around the world. Where our highly processed food supply goes, so do ideas about children’s pickiness. And so also goes rising child obesity rates.
But there are still lots of places where you can find totally non-picky children. I actually just heard recently from a pediatrician who works in Harlem, and he works with a lot of children of West African immigrants there. And he says they arrive in the U.S. with fabulous diets. They love vegetables. They love all sorts of diverse foods. And they have pretty healthy BMIs. They’re tall. And then, within just a few years of being exposed to standard American children’s food, we see the same kind of health problems that we see with other kids. They adopt this highly palatable, more processed diet, and other problems ensue.
So what can you do to prevent picky eating before it occurs?
Fernandez y Garcia: There’s a lot of fear that parents have around the types of foods that they can start their kids on, following this idea that there are certain textures and purees that are safer for kids.
And I think that that misunderstanding of child physiology and anatomy of what they can handle leads them to restrict the types of foods that they’re having when they first begin to be able to have solid foods, which for us is generally around six months of age when they can hold their head up nice and straight.
Parents can help picky eaters develop broader tastes by introducing a variety of flavors early — from pureed meats like chicken, fish and beef to soft, chewable foods such as corn on the cob or avocados that build familiarity and oral skills. (d3sign/Getty Images)
So one way to avoid it is to start at that time, introducing lots of different tastes, textures — things that you prepare at home for yourself as an adult and let kids have at it.
[For my kids], there were some things that we did puree, and we started pretty early introducing them to different types of meats: chicken, fish, beef, pureed. But we also integrated things that they could chew on, that had flavor, had taste. But they couldn’t necessarily [eat] given their lack of teeth and jaw strength. You can gnaw pretty well on a corn cob, for example. Or on a bagel that’s frozen. These types of things stimulate the chew reflex. It activates a lot of the developing taste buds. So they can have a mix of both pureed stuff and things that are chewable.
Fernandez y Garcia: I think that feeding and learning to eat a broader array of varied foods is very developmental. And as kids grow and as they learn, there are influences from society and from our families that can help direct that to the outcome that we want.
In this case, we want them to eat varied food. So if we’re sitting at the table at our set times, it’s a positive thing. It’s an enjoyable thing, it’s time you get to spend with your family, people are making positive comments about the food that they’re enjoying, and all of that positivity and all that positive feedback, of course, will lead to them enjoying food in general.
How about for neurodivergent children who may have barriers to certain textures and colors?
Fernandez y Garcia: That is a very, very real cause. There’s celiac disease, there’s allergies to foods, you can have a lot of different gastrointestinal problems. Kids with chronic illnesses have a limited appetite. There are children who have difficulty with the oral motor function, or how they swallow.
And personality: some kids are just more rigid. And there’s neurodiversity. I think that all of these different things we have to work through and determine if that is a cause. And then if it’s something like that — which is a very small percentage of the kids who have picky eating — we would ask for help from our developmental specialists, our nutritionists, and there are different techniques that people whose kids have these different conditions can follow to make sure that they have a nutritious, balanced food intake that also is varied but it does take some special interventions.
Apples and orange slices rest in trays for student lunch at the Albert D. Lawton Intermediate School, in Essex Junction, Vermont on June 9, 2022. (Lisa Rathke/AP)
Veit: ARFID stands for Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder. It is an eating disorder that was identified in 2012. It’s vital that if a child is really struggling to eat, parents seek medical help.
But some of our explanations for pickiness or problem eating, especially when they relate to things like texture or color, as a historian, I will just note that you don’t really see those historically. No one in the past thought children had issues around color. If they were talking about color, they were saying things like, “Add spinach and tomatoes because that bright color contrast will be so appealing to young children.”
Now this, again, doesn’t mean there aren’t biological aspects of what’s going on. Some children come out of the womb much pickier than others.
[But in many cases,] training and practice. We don’t think about this with children’s food a lot, but when given repeated multiple positive exposures, it turns out — certainly history suggests — that children can get used to vastly more interesting things than we think today.
What is an indicator that this could be a more serious issue that could use intervention?
Fernandez y Garcia: When you were talking about ARFID, one of the things that defines that is significant weight loss or inability to eat a varied enough diet to keep kids from having the nutritional, the broadness of nutritional intake that they need to grow normally.
Parents need to ask themselves often, “Why are they so concerned that their child is picky?” And the answer to that will often lead us to determine whether or not it’s a warning sign of something biomechanical or biological.
What are some shifts that you would like to see?
Veit: I think one of the deepest is parents having confidence that kids are actually capable of learning to like broad foods.
And of course, some of the comments from earlier, I just want to emphasize, if your child is having trouble eating, seek medical advice. This is crucial. There could be allergies, intolerances or other issues.
But what we see when we look across the world or in the American past is this stunning diversity of foods that kids used to genuinely enjoy. And if we can re-inject that confidence into parenting, I think that’s probably the biggest single tool that parents have — when presenting their kids with food, talking with them about it.
Jasmine Cuevas talks with her four children during dinner at their home in East Palo Alto on March 30, 2022. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)
Another thing, too, is that parents have been told, “Don’t talk to your kids about health because health is boring. Don’t push any particular food because that will make a child hate it.” There’s no good evidence for that. There’s lots of evidence in the past that when parents enthusiastically promoted the foods they liked to eat, it helped kids learn to like them.
You can enthusiastically talk about the foods you love to eat. And you don’t have to hold back. Kids are capable of learning to like spicy foods, garlicky foods, fermented foods.
What do you do if your kid is already a picky eater?
Veit: From history, for most humans, there weren’t alternative meals. It wasn’t possible to create this alternative meal before refrigeration, highly processed foods or microwaves. And I know it’s so uncomfortable for parents because we’ve been told you’ll mess your kids up. But the idea that there’s one meal and that’s what there is, and if you don’t eat it, the consequence of not eating is hunger. This is not hunger as punishment.
Again, you have deep confidence that they can learn to like this food, but it’s a consequence of you not eating this beautiful family meal.
We’re comfortable having that kind of structure when it comes to seat belts, or tooth brushing, or going to school. We’re comfortable with the idea that some things kids just have to do. That could be a step toward getting your children to learn to love those foods again.
Fernandez y Garcia: Every family, again, has their own tolerances and their own approach to parenting and behavior change. Because that’s what we’re talking about: behavior change.
Avoiding negative feedback for things that we don’t like is much less effective than giving positive feedback when the behavior that we want happens.
If you’re going to have alternate foods, those should be foods that you choose as alternate foods. So if you cook a meal and the child doesn’t like it, you can give them an alternative, but that is one that the parent chooses.
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"content": "\u003cp>Chicken nuggets, mac and cheese, hamburgers and fries are all staples of children’s menus in restaurants across the country today — an easy, appealing choice for the young ones at the table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Helen Zoe Veit, associate professor of history at Michigan State University, said that in the 1930s, those foods weren’t common menu items.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You see a lot of lamb. You see a lot of spinach. You see prunes,” Veit said. “And the idea was this is normal kids’ food back then.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In her new book, \u003cem>Picky: How American Children Became the Fussiest Eaters in History\u003c/em>, Veit argues that kids used to be much more adventurous eaters than they are today. But a mixture of lifestyle and parenting changes, marketing and the rise of processed foods has made American children very selective eaters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The real mission behind the book is to get a more expansive sense back into our culture of what kids are capable of liking,” she said recently on \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101913144/why-are-american-kids-such-picky-eaters\">KQED’s \u003cem>Forum\u003c/em>\u003c/a> program. “Far from the myth that we have that, ‘OK, maybe you could force your kid to hatefully accept these foods.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12078821\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12078821 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/FrenchFriesGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/FrenchFriesGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/FrenchFriesGetty-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/FrenchFriesGetty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A mixture of lifestyle and parenting changes, marketing and the rise of processed foods has made American children very selective eaters, according to Helen Zoe Veit, associate professor of history at Michigan State University \u003ccite>(Smith Collection/Gado/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“To get us back toward this idea of teaching kids to love diverse foods. To get actual, authentic pleasure and a much bigger sense of pleasure back into kids’ food,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Forum\u003c/em> spoke to Veit and UC Davis pediatrician Dr. Erik Fernandez y Garcia about how children became such picky eaters — and what parents can do to encourage more adventurous eating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mina Kim: So, how \u003cem>did\u003c/em> American children use to eat? Has it always been like this?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit:\u003c/strong> Americans, in general, in let’s say the 19th century, ate so much more diversely than we do today in terms of species.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They ate an incredible variety of plant species, a lot more heirloom varieties, wild plants, lots more animal species than we do — all sorts of different kinds of birds, and fish, and shellfish and organ meats. And the crucial thing is that children, with very few exceptions, generally ate what their parents were eating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The even more crucial part is that they weren’t just eating the food. Everybody agreed they liked it. There was a broad idea that kids love to eat. They’re naturally omnivorous.[aside postID=forum_2010101913144 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/43/2026/03/PICKY.jpg']When we think today why did kids eat more broadly in the past, we usually make two assumptions. One is scarcity. We imagine, “OK, there wasn’t enough food to go around, so kids were forcing down hated foods as the only alternative to starvation.” Or we might imagine it was harsh discipline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the fascinating thing from history is that, really, neither is true. Now, that being said, hunger is important. And there were plenty of people in the past who were poor. There were desperately poor people in America, and poor kids, by all accounts, ate eagerly. However, middle-class kids, children of the wealthiest families, farm children who were living in situations of abundance, they were eating eagerly, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They were doing more chores, they were walking more, they were spending more time outside, and they weren’t snacking much. Snacks were logistically hard. Before you had plastics, highly processed food, and refrigerators, there wasn’t a whole lot of edible food available between meals. So kids showed up to meals with really big appetites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m not advocating for a return to some of the child labor practices that were going on. But certainly, probably, there are lots of kids who would be happier if they were moving around more during the day. We know exercise is important for all of us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How would you characterize kids’ eating habits \u003cem>today\u003c/em>? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit: \u003c/strong>Many parents are just trying to do the best they possibly can to feed their kids. They want their kids to be happy, they want to please their children.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And they’ve gotten a lot of marketing messages and other messages. There are a lot of myths swirling about children’s foods, that to please our kids, we have to feed them a pretty narrow range of foods. There are a lot of products in the supermarket that are geared specifically toward kids. Children’s food has become its own genre.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The irony for me is that so much of modern kids’ food is actually about displeasure. It’s about helping kids avoid all of these foods that they’re supposedly incapable of liking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How do you think modern parenting influenced these kinds of habits?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit: \u003c/strong>Parenting around food is so hard today. For many families, it’s the hardest thing about parenting. And that’s not something I say lightly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And that is because parents have been put in this impossible position. On the one hand, they’ve been told, “Be so careful about talking to your kids about food. Never push them to eat anything in particular. Kids are natural rebels. If you push them to eat something, they will develop lifelong aversions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12078825\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12078825 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/kideatingchickennuggetsgetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/kideatingchickennuggetsgetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/kideatingchickennuggetsgetty-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/kideatingchickennuggetsgetty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">In the previous generations, kids were acquiring taste as soon as they were learning to eat, according to Helen Zoe Veit, associate professor of history at Michigan State University. \u003ccite>(Tang Ming Tung/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[Or] “If you pushed them to a particular quantity, they’ll never develop a sense of authentic fullness, and that will lead to overeating and maybe obesity.” Or, “If you make food too emotional or too stressful, that could lead to disordered eating, even eating disorders.” Parents are so scared about doing the wrong thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But at the same time, they’re told kids’ health is actually really important. Childhood obesity rates are rising. Children are developing these chronic diseases in childhood, such as type 2 diabetes, heart problems, high blood pressure, all of these things that in the past were rare. Parents feel paralyzed. They don’t know what to do. They feel stuck. A lot of parents today have the sense that children need special, separate meals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How do processed meals come into the mix? How did that influence how kids eat?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit: \u003c/strong>The flood of highly processed foods into many American homes in the mid-20th century is another big factor in establishing new expectations for how easy it might be for children to like foods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, if you hear that something’s an acquired taste, we think that means it’s an adult food. That’s synonymous with adulthood for us. In the previous generations, kids were acquiring taste as soon as they were learning to eat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But once highly processed foods enter American homes, it’s clear that there are lots of foods kids don’t have to acquire the taste for. They like them instantly. And so it becomes less of a natural part of many families’ lives to try to teach kids to like food over an extended period of time. At the same time, psychologists start telling parents that it’s psychologically risky to talk to your kids too much about what they should eat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marketing played a huge role. Marketing just was shamelessly directed at kids in the 1950s, ’60s, ’70s, even in ways that today we’d probably be a little uncomfortable with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Why is there this emphasis on children’s food needing to be bland?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit:\u003c/strong> Back in the 19th century, a lot of children got sick and died. The number one cause of death was epidemic disease. But the number two cause was unrefrigerated food and food poisoning.[aside postID=news_12078168 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251031-SFMARINFOODBANK-11-BL-KQED.jpg']But the problem was that back in the 19th century, before the last part of the century, Americans didn’t know about germs. They didn’t know about viruses, microbes, contagion. They didn’t understand how this worked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There was this group of reformers saying, “It must be the food.” The very fact that children were such broad eaters, they didn’t see that as fabulous back then. These reformers said, “I think it’s all this diverse food, this over-stimulating food.” It’s what we today would see as pseudoscience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There was this real advocacy campaign to encourage parents to feed their children blander food. Now, not a lot of parents listened back in the 19th century.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These were relatively fringy ideas, but they started to catch on much more broadly in the early 20th century. By then, it was less about preventing child death, since germ theory was being established and mortality rates were falling. But it was more about protecting children’s supposedly vulnerable stomachs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How does the taste of the food come into play? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit: \u003c/strong>It’s almost hard as a cultural historian to say this, but I do think deliciousness matters. So, on the one hand, highly processed food is flooding into Americans’ homes [in the mid-20th century.] It’s been designed in laboratories to be really palatable, to be salty, sweet, fatty, melty, crunchy, to have all of these properties that we really love at the same time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cooking styles had changed. So a lot of the vegetables were frozen or canned, or even the ones that were nominally fresh, they’d been shipped across the country or sometimes the world. They’d been stored for long periods of time. They weren’t as flavorful or fresh as the vegetables enjoyed in previous generations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12054031\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12054031\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-19-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-19-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-19-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-19-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students learn how to cut vegetables for a salad at the North Bay Children’s Center in Novato on Aug. 27, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>I do think cooking can be a really important tool. Now, of course, that leads to all sorts of other questions, like time. Do we have time to cook? How are our work-life balances structured? How are families structured? Who is doing this work? It also leads to things like, do we know how to cook in the first place?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the many things that I think could help with pickiness and maybe with life in general is if we reintroduced cooking classes to public schools. This is another thing that used to happen in the past. Of course, it used to be pretty gendered through home economics programs, at least in the mid-20th century. But we could reimagine public education to include this, maybe most basic of life skills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How is this an American phenomenon — and is it spreading?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit: \u003c/strong>There’s so much to learn from other countries. Now, that being said, pickiness is spreading around the world. Where our highly processed food supply goes, so do ideas about children’s pickiness. And so also goes rising child obesity rates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there are still lots of places where you can find totally non-picky children. I actually just heard recently from a pediatrician who works in Harlem, and he works with a lot of children of West African immigrants there. And he says they arrive in the U.S. with fabulous diets. They love vegetables. They love all sorts of diverse foods. And they have pretty healthy BMIs. They’re tall. And then, within just a few years of being exposed to standard American children’s food, we see the same kind of health problems that we see with other kids. They adopt this highly palatable, more processed diet, and other problems ensue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>So what can you do to prevent picky eating before it occurs?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fernandez y Garcia: \u003c/strong>There’s a lot of fear that parents have around the types of foods that they can start their kids on, following this idea that there are certain textures and purees that are safer for kids.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And I think that that misunderstanding of child physiology and anatomy of what they can handle leads them to restrict the types of foods that they’re having when they first begin to be able to have solid foods, which for us is generally around six months of age when they can hold their head up nice and straight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12006360\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2121px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12006360 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2121\" height=\"1414\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171.jpg 2121w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2121px) 100vw, 2121px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Parents can help picky eaters develop broader tastes by introducing a variety of flavors early — from pureed meats like chicken, fish and beef to soft, chewable foods such as corn on the cob or avocados that build familiarity and oral skills. \u003ccite>(d3sign/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>So one way to avoid it is to start at that time, introducing lots of different tastes, textures — things that you prepare at home for yourself as an adult and let kids have at it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[For my kids], there were some things that we did puree, and we started pretty early introducing them to different types of meats: chicken, fish, beef, pureed. But we also integrated things that they could chew on, that had flavor, had taste. But they couldn’t necessarily [eat] given their lack of teeth and jaw strength. You can gnaw pretty well on a corn cob, for example. Or on a bagel that’s frozen. These types of things stimulate the chew reflex. It activates a lot of the developing taste buds. So they can have a mix of both pureed stuff and things that are chewable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fernandez y Garcia:\u003c/strong> I think that feeding and learning to eat a broader array of varied foods is very developmental. And as kids grow and as they learn, there are influences from society and from our families that can help direct that to the outcome that we want.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In this case, we want them to eat varied food. So if we’re sitting at the table at our set times, it’s a positive thing. It’s an enjoyable thing, it’s time you get to spend with your family, people are making positive comments about the food that they’re enjoying, and all of that positivity and all that positive feedback, of course, will lead to them enjoying food in general.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How about for neurodivergent children who may have barriers to certain textures and colors?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fernandez y Garcia:\u003c/strong> That is a very, very real cause. There’s celiac disease, there’s allergies to foods, you can have a lot of different gastrointestinal problems. Kids with chronic illnesses have a limited appetite. There are children who have difficulty with the oral motor function, or how they swallow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And personality: some kids are just more rigid. And there’s neurodiversity. I think that all of these different things we have to work through and determine if that is a cause. And then if it’s something like that — which is a very small percentage of the kids who have picky eating — we would ask for help from our developmental specialists, our nutritionists, and there are different techniques that people whose kids have these different conditions can follow to make sure that they have a nutritious, balanced food intake that also is varied but it does take some special interventions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11930253\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1600px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11930253 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Trays of apples and orange slices.\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1142\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85.jpg 1600w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85-800x571.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85-1020x728.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85-160x114.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85-1536x1096.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Apples and orange slices rest in trays for student lunch at the Albert D. Lawton Intermediate School, in Essex Junction, Vermont on June 9, 2022. \u003ccite>(Lisa Rathke/AP)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit: \u003c/strong>ARFID stands for Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder. It is an eating disorder that was identified in 2012. It’s vital that if a child is really struggling to eat, parents seek medical help.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But some of our explanations for pickiness or problem eating, especially when they relate to things like texture or color, as a historian, I will just note that you don’t really see those historically. No one in the past thought children had issues around color. If they were talking about color, they were saying things like, “Add spinach and tomatoes because that bright color contrast will be so appealing to young children.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now this, again, doesn’t mean there aren’t biological aspects of what’s going on. Some children come out of the womb much pickier than others.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[But in many cases,] training and practice. We don’t think about this with children’s food a lot, but when given repeated multiple positive exposures, it turns out — certainly history suggests — that children can get used to vastly more interesting things than we think today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What is an indicator that this could be a more serious issue that could use intervention?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fernandez y Garcia:\u003c/strong> When you were talking about ARFID, one of the things that defines that is significant weight loss or inability to eat a varied enough diet to keep kids from having the nutritional, the broadness of nutritional intake that they need to grow normally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parents need to ask themselves often, “Why are they so concerned that their child is picky?” And the answer to that will often lead us to determine whether or not it’s a warning sign of something biomechanical or biological.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What are some shifts that you would like to see?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit: \u003c/strong>I think one of the deepest is parents having confidence that kids are actually capable of learning to like broad foods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And of course, some of the comments from earlier, I just want to emphasize, if your child is having trouble eating, seek medical advice. This is crucial. There could be allergies, intolerances or other issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But what we see when we look across the world or in the American past is this stunning diversity of foods that kids used to genuinely enjoy. 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Now, of course, that leads to all sorts of other questions, like time. Do we have time to cook? How are our work-life balances structured? How are families structured? Who is doing this work? It also leads to things like, do we know how to cook in the first place?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the many things that I think could help with pickiness and maybe with life in general is if we reintroduced cooking classes to public schools. This is another thing that used to happen in the past. Of course, it used to be pretty gendered through home economics programs, at least in the mid-20th century. But we could reimagine public education to include this, maybe most basic of life skills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How is this an American phenomenon — and is it spreading?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit: \u003c/strong>There’s so much to learn from other countries. Now, that being said, pickiness is spreading around the world. Where our highly processed food supply goes, so do ideas about children’s pickiness. And so also goes rising child obesity rates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there are still lots of places where you can find totally non-picky children. I actually just heard recently from a pediatrician who works in Harlem, and he works with a lot of children of West African immigrants there. And he says they arrive in the U.S. with fabulous diets. They love vegetables. They love all sorts of diverse foods. And they have pretty healthy BMIs. They’re tall. And then, within just a few years of being exposed to standard American children’s food, we see the same kind of health problems that we see with other kids. They adopt this highly palatable, more processed diet, and other problems ensue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>So what can you do to prevent picky eating before it occurs?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fernandez y Garcia: \u003c/strong>There’s a lot of fear that parents have around the types of foods that they can start their kids on, following this idea that there are certain textures and purees that are safer for kids.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And I think that that misunderstanding of child physiology and anatomy of what they can handle leads them to restrict the types of foods that they’re having when they first begin to be able to have solid foods, which for us is generally around six months of age when they can hold their head up nice and straight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12006360\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2121px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12006360 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2121\" height=\"1414\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171.jpg 2121w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/GettyImages-1226633171-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2121px) 100vw, 2121px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Parents can help picky eaters develop broader tastes by introducing a variety of flavors early — from pureed meats like chicken, fish and beef to soft, chewable foods such as corn on the cob or avocados that build familiarity and oral skills. \u003ccite>(d3sign/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>So one way to avoid it is to start at that time, introducing lots of different tastes, textures — things that you prepare at home for yourself as an adult and let kids have at it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[For my kids], there were some things that we did puree, and we started pretty early introducing them to different types of meats: chicken, fish, beef, pureed. But we also integrated things that they could chew on, that had flavor, had taste. But they couldn’t necessarily [eat] given their lack of teeth and jaw strength. You can gnaw pretty well on a corn cob, for example. Or on a bagel that’s frozen. These types of things stimulate the chew reflex. It activates a lot of the developing taste buds. So they can have a mix of both pureed stuff and things that are chewable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fernandez y Garcia:\u003c/strong> I think that feeding and learning to eat a broader array of varied foods is very developmental. And as kids grow and as they learn, there are influences from society and from our families that can help direct that to the outcome that we want.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In this case, we want them to eat varied food. So if we’re sitting at the table at our set times, it’s a positive thing. It’s an enjoyable thing, it’s time you get to spend with your family, people are making positive comments about the food that they’re enjoying, and all of that positivity and all that positive feedback, of course, will lead to them enjoying food in general.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How about for neurodivergent children who may have barriers to certain textures and colors?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fernandez y Garcia:\u003c/strong> That is a very, very real cause. There’s celiac disease, there’s allergies to foods, you can have a lot of different gastrointestinal problems. Kids with chronic illnesses have a limited appetite. There are children who have difficulty with the oral motor function, or how they swallow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And personality: some kids are just more rigid. And there’s neurodiversity. I think that all of these different things we have to work through and determine if that is a cause. And then if it’s something like that — which is a very small percentage of the kids who have picky eating — we would ask for help from our developmental specialists, our nutritionists, and there are different techniques that people whose kids have these different conditions can follow to make sure that they have a nutritious, balanced food intake that also is varied but it does take some special interventions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11930253\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1600px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11930253 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85.jpg\" alt=\"Trays of apples and orange slices.\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1142\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85.jpg 1600w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85-800x571.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85-1020x728.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85-160x114.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/ap22167671296428_custom-69436829a3251414dd4eda942942bc4d31ccbb0f-s1600-c85-1536x1096.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Apples and orange slices rest in trays for student lunch at the Albert D. 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Some children come out of the womb much pickier than others.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[But in many cases,] training and practice. We don’t think about this with children’s food a lot, but when given repeated multiple positive exposures, it turns out — certainly history suggests — that children can get used to vastly more interesting things than we think today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What is an indicator that this could be a more serious issue that could use intervention?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fernandez y Garcia:\u003c/strong> When you were talking about ARFID, one of the things that defines that is significant weight loss or inability to eat a varied enough diet to keep kids from having the nutritional, the broadness of nutritional intake that they need to grow normally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parents need to ask themselves often, “Why are they so concerned that their child is picky?” And the answer to that will often lead us to determine whether or not it’s a warning sign of something biomechanical or biological.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What are some shifts that you would like to see?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit: \u003c/strong>I think one of the deepest is parents having confidence that kids are actually capable of learning to like broad foods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And of course, some of the comments from earlier, I just want to emphasize, if your child is having trouble eating, seek medical advice. This is crucial. There could be allergies, intolerances or other issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But what we see when we look across the world or in the American past is this stunning diversity of foods that kids used to genuinely enjoy. And if we can re-inject that confidence into parenting, I think that’s probably the biggest single tool that parents have — when presenting their kids with food, talking with them about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11927059\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11927059\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/RS54940_009_KQED_JasmineCuevasFamily_03302022-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/RS54940_009_KQED_JasmineCuevasFamily_03302022-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/RS54940_009_KQED_JasmineCuevasFamily_03302022-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/RS54940_009_KQED_JasmineCuevasFamily_03302022-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/RS54940_009_KQED_JasmineCuevasFamily_03302022-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/09/RS54940_009_KQED_JasmineCuevasFamily_03302022-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jasmine Cuevas talks with her four children during dinner at their home in East Palo Alto on March 30, 2022. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Another thing, too, is that parents have been told, “Don’t talk to your kids about health because health is boring. Don’t push any particular food because that will make a child hate it.” There’s no good evidence for that. There’s lots of evidence in the past that when parents enthusiastically promoted the foods they liked to eat, it helped kids learn to like them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can enthusiastically talk about the foods you love to eat. And you don’t have to hold back. Kids are capable of learning to like spicy foods, garlicky foods, fermented foods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What do you do if your kid is \u003cem>already\u003c/em> a picky eater?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Veit: \u003c/strong>From history, for most humans, there weren’t alternative meals. It wasn’t possible to create this alternative meal before refrigeration, highly processed foods or microwaves. And I know it’s so uncomfortable for parents because we’ve been told you’ll mess your kids up. But the idea that there’s one meal and that’s what there is, and if you don’t eat it, the consequence of not eating is hunger. This is not hunger as punishment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Again, you have deep confidence that they can learn to like this food, but it’s a consequence of you not eating this beautiful family meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We’re comfortable having that kind of structure when it comes to seat belts, or tooth brushing, or going to school. We’re comfortable with the idea that some things kids just have to do. That could be a step toward getting your children to learn to love those foods again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fernandez y Garcia:\u003c/strong> Every family, again, has their own tolerances and their own approach to parenting and behavior change. Because that’s what we’re talking about: behavior change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Avoiding negative feedback for things that we don’t like is much less effective than giving positive feedback when the behavior that we want happens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re going to have alternate foods, those should be foods that you choose as alternate foods. So if you cook a meal and the child doesn’t like it, you can give them an alternative, but that is one that the parent chooses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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