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It’s definitely still like unresolved, unprocessed trauma. Moving here now with the Canada wildfires, pushing smoke into the Midwest. And I was back going to the hardware store to buy N95 masks again. That first time I was just. So upset and we had it again this year so it’s always like a constant annual reminder of just how I felt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Morris III \u003c/strong>[00:07:26] When I look back at that time and 4.2 million acres burned, it is the most consequential fire season of my career. I’ve been working for 29 years. My name is George Morris III, and I am the Northern Region Chief for CAL FIRE. My area of responsibility is from Monterey County up to the Oregon border.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Morris III \u003c/strong>[00:07:47] So leading into August 15th, which is when the lightning started, we had a heat dome laid over California for a significant amount of time, and some record temperatures were hitting. We were in the 110 degree range for weeks coming out of that It was a tropical storm, Fausto started to break up and this monsoonal moisture came up the Sierras. And everything came down to in those early moments, allocation of resources and trying to figure out, okay, we have finite resources, namely our incident management teams. Where do we deploy them? Where do commit them? We were on a continuous deployment of resources essentially through that time. And every time you thought you were gonna, you’re gonna get ahead, The original lightning-caused fires gave way to other mega-fires like the glass fire in Napa County and Sonoma County that just continued to stress the system over that period. In my career, every 10 years or so, there’s a lightning siege.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Morris III \u003c/strong>[00:08:55] You can look at 1999, 2008, and then 2020. But in the era of the megafire, that propagation of large and damaging fire has just been really pronounced. And for 2020, we recognized that as it was going on at this we’re in the middle of a historic event. Just dealing with the fires on the landscape was a challenge in and of itself, but they were also doing an incredible amount of damage to property. In the example of the North Complex, killing civilians as it moved into Berry Creek, they were significant complex events. It’s funny when I think back on it now, just how hard we were going and for how long. I’m happy that we could limit the damage to 4.2 million acres, given how difficult that operational reality was. So fast forward to today, you know, we learned a lot through that process too. Our technological capability has increased since 2020. We are, our predictive modeling is, is better. It’s at the, it’s at the fingertips of the firefighter now. So the next one we get, the public will be better informed to make good decisions and hopefully loss of life can be We’re in the era of the mega fire and we’re likely to see large and damaging fires in California for a variety of reasons. Climate change is one of those reasons. Encroachment into the wildland-urban interface. Most fires are caused by human activity. It was kind of a recipe there that are making fires larger and more damaging. In my early career, you could go on a 30,000 acre fire and you think I’ll never see anything like that again. But that is a naive thought as a young firefighter because the reality is it’s California, it’s a Mediterranean climate. It has always had a recipe for fire, and fire has always been part of its landscape. But there’s 40 million people on that landscape.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Danielle Venton \u003c/strong>[00:11:14] Tell me, tell me who you are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alana Samuels \u003c/strong>[00:11:18] Alana Semuels. Right now I’m in New York City, but I live in the Hudson Valley in New york state. Um, so yeah, so I was living in San Francisco. I should start off by saying San Francisco is like my favorite place in the whole world. I love just walking around and seeing all the beautiful views. I remember I saw the went to went to ocean beach to see the sunset and the colors are really vivid and I kind of thought, Oh, that’s unusual. That usually happens when there’s a fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alana Samuels \u003c/strong>[00:11:46] And over the next couple of days, um, you know, there were, I think there were a couple of fires going on at the time. And the air quality got worse and worse. I was pregnant at the time, so I stopped taking walks outside, the air was really hazy, we didn’t have air conditioning, and it was just really unpleasant. We couldn’t open our windows. We lived in a west-facing apartment, so it got a lot of heat. And I don’t know if I would say sun, because the sun was kind of blocked by the haze and the bad air. But just kind of everything I loved about San Francisco was suddenly gone. My husband and I just kept having this debate of should we open the windows? He didn’t want to because he thought the air quality was too bad. I was just like, we’re suffocating in here. It feels like we’re in some box. And the air got a little cooler at night. So one night I got so desperate, I was so hot that I went outside to sleep on our deck chairs and get some relief, at least get a little breeze or a little cool air. And I remember waking up with just kind of a fine layer of grit on the chairs and on me. And just feeling filthy and going back inside and wanting to hide it from my husband that I’d been outside because he was so worried about the air quality. I think I was about eight months pregnant at the time. And I remember calling UCSF, which is where I was getting care and expecting them to be like, oh, you’re fine, don’t worry about it. And they were like, well, if you’re not breathing properly, then your baby’s not getting the oxygen or just the baby isn’t getting what it needs. And that’s when we decided to rent a hotel room to at least get some air conditioning to feel like I could breathe deeply. It just felt like there was no relief. There was nowhere you could go to get relief and to feel clean and to feel like you’re breathing clean air. And even, you know, I think even in LA it was happening. So it just felt like the world was burning. It wasn’t just San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alana Samuels \u003c/strong>[00:14:02] We rented Airbnb in South San Francisco, this was probably the worst day. And we woke up and it was like eight and it’s like the sun hadn’t come up. And I was like, did all the clocks fail? Or did what happened? We drove back to our house and it was just like people had their lights on. It was still dark out and it was that day that everything turned orange and for whatever reason, I guess it was the haze and the smoke, the sun just didn’t really come up and you took pictures and everything looked orange and that was when we were really like, this is not sustainable. I don’t know if we can continue to live like this. We had been talking about moving to the East Coast because both of our families are on the East coast, but San Francisco is my favorite place on the planet. And, you know, it’s just a place that kind of makes my chest relax and I just love it. And I think after that summer and after those days, we just felt like we couldn’t go through it again unless we had a lot of money. You know, you can probably install some sort of air purifying air conditioning system. To your house if you own your house, which we couldn’t afford to do. And it just felt like we couldn’t do that summer after summer after Summer. This place is ahead of the rest of the country in terms of what it’s gonna have to deal with, with the water as well. And we just thought it’s just too much of a sacrifice to make, which I’m really sad about. I wish that wasn’t the case because I love San Francisco and I’m jealous of people who are able to live there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leigh-Anne Lehrman \u003c/strong>[00:16:05] I saw the lightning that night and I knew immediately that it was a high fire risk and then I couldn’t reach them because the power went out right away. I am Leigh-Anne Lehrman, and I am a CZU fire survivor, as are my kids. So I had actually just been diagnosed with an aggressive form of breast cancer. So I was up, I was actually not staying there that August. I was staying up in Woodside with my fiance. My older daughter was in between her freshman and sophomore year. Of college at Berkeley and her younger sister was only 15 and they were holding out in the fort in Bonny Doon. It’s a rural area, really tight community. We had lived there since 2001 so we were very embedded in the community. The girls obviously grew up there. They were born there in the house that we had. I had just had a double mastectomy like a week before, and we woke up in the middle of the night to lightning strikes all over the place. It was beautiful but also terrifying.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leigh-Anne Lehrman \u003c/strong>[00:17:36] Over the course of the next two days, the winds were very strong, it was blowing it right in their direction, and it was spreading by embers from hilltop to hilltop, so it’s spread very, very fast and. It was not looking good for Bonnie Doon. I started really panicking, and then I couldn’t reach them at all. And there was a long night when I was trying to get a hold of them and tell them to get out. I didn’t know if they were there or not now because all the cell phones weren’t working. Finally at six in the morning, I caught a hold a friend of mine who had evacuated down to Davenport, which is where all our neighbors were gathering. And she drove back up there, and they were packing the car when she got there. By that time we knew it was not looking good. And then, you know, there was nothing to be done. We, they were, the girls were safe. They were staying with friends, with all of our pets. And the day that the house burned, I went to a physical therapy appointment and. Uh, somehow in the middle of it, because of a trimfist, as to, you know, what was going on. And I think my house is burning right now as we speak. And she was just, she was like, what are you doing here? So there’s absolutely nothing I can do about it. 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A fast-burning complex of fires in the North Bay has forced thousands of people from their\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Tara Siler \u003c/strong>[00:00:45] Lightning-caused fires burning in Santa Cruz and San Mateo counties have triggered widespread evacuations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Erin DeMerritt \u003c/strong>[00:00:50] The areas most heavily impacted by smoke are South San Francisco, Pacifica, San Mateio, Redwood City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Julia McEvoy \u003c/strong>[00:00:58] If you were here, you’d be choking on the smoke right now, Brian. It’s very, very sick and the sun rose blood red just a few minutes ago. People are just waking up and trying to find their way to some sort of normality here right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:01:10] Now, if you were living here in 2020, you remember how it felt. The smell of smoke in the air for weeks on end. That apocalyptic orange sky. And oh yeah, the pandemic was only in its fifth month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Morris III \u003c/strong>[00:01:25] For 2020, we recognized that as it was going on at this year in the middle of a historic event. It is the most consequential fire season of my career. I’ve been working for 29 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:01:42] In the end, these fires killed 31 people and destroyed approximately 9,000 structures. Overall, 4.2 million acres across California burned during the firestorms of 2020, the most in the recorded history of the state. So today on the show, as we mark five years since that orange sky day, we’re bringing you stories from the people who lived through the 2020 fires in their own words. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nate Ericson \u003c/strong>[00:02:12] My name is Nate Erickson. I lived in the Bay Area, lived in South Bay up until 2016. Moved up to Sonoma County, lived in Santa Rosa and Petaluma. And then in 2020, I got a new territory. I was in sales in Livermore. I moved to Livermore March 1st, and then March 17th, everything shut down. So my birthday was August 14th. And I decided to go camping by myself up in Humboldt. So I put my phone away, had the best time that I could possibly have in the Redwoods, a very peaceful, amazing time. I was really enjoying myself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nate Ericson \u003c/strong>[00:02:55] But then Sunday came around, I pulled out my phone just to check my route, and that’s when I learned about the fires. I saw my stepmom posting that she was, she and my dad were being evacuated. All the alarm bells in my head went off. And so realized that there was a fire in Mendocino between me and home. And so just trying to figure out all of the details necessary to get home. So I just got on 101 South and started going. As I started to get close to Mendocin, I did start to see just this massive plume of smoke. As I kept getting closer to it, it was just such a surreal experience. And I think I also remember being on 101 and just seeing on the hill to my right, just seeing fire at the crest of that hill right there. And after the previous couple years of the previous fires, that was probably the closest that I had come to actually being face-to-face with the fire. I really just remember this seeing that plume of smoke and just not wanting to keep going. I mean, it’s kind of that fight or flight situation where I don’t want to go towards this anymore, but it’s between me and home. Also just thinking about my parents, my dad and my stepmom, just thinking what’s happening to them. They live still in the Santa Cruz mountains. I came to find out later the fire came within a half mile of their house. My parents got into a hotel, they told me to stay away. They were taking the COVID precautions very serious. They told me they were safe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nate Ericson \u003c/strong>[00:04:42] When I got home, I think that just became a time of doom scrolling and making phone calls. Finding out not just my dad and my stepmom, what’s going on with them, but just other friends with their shelter in place that was happening. I didn’t really have a lot of other options. That was kind of a. Helpless feeling too, because you have your friends that are potentially in danger, and during normal times, you would drive to them and try to support. But at that point, I didn’t really know what to do. Uh, it was very smoky, uh, in Livermore. That I think that was more of a hit to my psyche than just the fire itself. Just because after the previous couple of years of living through similar situations of just breathing in smoke for a couple of weeks, it’s just, it became to be a lot. The week of the orange skies, that was very surreal. Uh, I remember that day very specifically. I was sitting in. Parking lot and that was the day of my review with my bosses. I was so frustrated and just really upset and just like, are we really doing this right now? Does this, we still have to jump through these corporate hoops and fill out, check these boxes and the sky looks like the apocalypse or Mars or something and we’re talking about KPIs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nate Ericson \u003c/strong>[00:06:09] What led to the point of me wanting to move to Wisconsin, I don’t know if it was an exact moment where like a switch flipped, but it was a very quick decision. After the previous years of living through the fires and breathing in smoke and also just the cost of living, I had enough money to purchase a home, but never in the Bay Area. It’s that uncertainty, right? I didn’t know if this was gonna be an annual thing now. It was three years in a row, and then that was kind of the climax of that story, right? I definitely think about that time quite a bit. It’s definitely still like unresolved, unprocessed trauma. Moving here now with the Canada wildfires, pushing smoke into the Midwest. And I was back going to the hardware store to buy N95 masks again. That first time I was just. So upset and we had it again this year so it’s always like a constant annual reminder of just how I felt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Morris III \u003c/strong>[00:07:26] When I look back at that time and 4.2 million acres burned, it is the most consequential fire season of my career. I’ve been working for 29 years. My name is George Morris III, and I am the Northern Region Chief for CAL FIRE. My area of responsibility is from Monterey County up to the Oregon border.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Morris III \u003c/strong>[00:07:47] So leading into August 15th, which is when the lightning started, we had a heat dome laid over California for a significant amount of time, and some record temperatures were hitting. We were in the 110 degree range for weeks coming out of that It was a tropical storm, Fausto started to break up and this monsoonal moisture came up the Sierras. And everything came down to in those early moments, allocation of resources and trying to figure out, okay, we have finite resources, namely our incident management teams. Where do we deploy them? Where do commit them? We were on a continuous deployment of resources essentially through that time. And every time you thought you were gonna, you’re gonna get ahead, The original lightning-caused fires gave way to other mega-fires like the glass fire in Napa County and Sonoma County that just continued to stress the system over that period. In my career, every 10 years or so, there’s a lightning siege.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Morris III \u003c/strong>[00:08:55] You can look at 1999, 2008, and then 2020. But in the era of the megafire, that propagation of large and damaging fire has just been really pronounced. And for 2020, we recognized that as it was going on at this we’re in the middle of a historic event. Just dealing with the fires on the landscape was a challenge in and of itself, but they were also doing an incredible amount of damage to property. In the example of the North Complex, killing civilians as it moved into Berry Creek, they were significant complex events. It’s funny when I think back on it now, just how hard we were going and for how long. I’m happy that we could limit the damage to 4.2 million acres, given how difficult that operational reality was. So fast forward to today, you know, we learned a lot through that process too. Our technological capability has increased since 2020. We are, our predictive modeling is, is better. It’s at the, it’s at the fingertips of the firefighter now. So the next one we get, the public will be better informed to make good decisions and hopefully loss of life can be We’re in the era of the mega fire and we’re likely to see large and damaging fires in California for a variety of reasons. Climate change is one of those reasons. Encroachment into the wildland-urban interface. Most fires are caused by human activity. It was kind of a recipe there that are making fires larger and more damaging. In my early career, you could go on a 30,000 acre fire and you think I’ll never see anything like that again. But that is a naive thought as a young firefighter because the reality is it’s California, it’s a Mediterranean climate. It has always had a recipe for fire, and fire has always been part of its landscape. But there’s 40 million people on that landscape.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Danielle Venton \u003c/strong>[00:11:14] Tell me, tell me who you are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alana Samuels \u003c/strong>[00:11:18] Alana Semuels. Right now I’m in New York City, but I live in the Hudson Valley in New york state. Um, so yeah, so I was living in San Francisco. I should start off by saying San Francisco is like my favorite place in the whole world. I love just walking around and seeing all the beautiful views. I remember I saw the went to went to ocean beach to see the sunset and the colors are really vivid and I kind of thought, Oh, that’s unusual. That usually happens when there’s a fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alana Samuels \u003c/strong>[00:11:46] And over the next couple of days, um, you know, there were, I think there were a couple of fires going on at the time. And the air quality got worse and worse. I was pregnant at the time, so I stopped taking walks outside, the air was really hazy, we didn’t have air conditioning, and it was just really unpleasant. We couldn’t open our windows. We lived in a west-facing apartment, so it got a lot of heat. And I don’t know if I would say sun, because the sun was kind of blocked by the haze and the bad air. But just kind of everything I loved about San Francisco was suddenly gone. My husband and I just kept having this debate of should we open the windows? He didn’t want to because he thought the air quality was too bad. I was just like, we’re suffocating in here. It feels like we’re in some box. And the air got a little cooler at night. So one night I got so desperate, I was so hot that I went outside to sleep on our deck chairs and get some relief, at least get a little breeze or a little cool air. And I remember waking up with just kind of a fine layer of grit on the chairs and on me. And just feeling filthy and going back inside and wanting to hide it from my husband that I’d been outside because he was so worried about the air quality. I think I was about eight months pregnant at the time. And I remember calling UCSF, which is where I was getting care and expecting them to be like, oh, you’re fine, don’t worry about it. And they were like, well, if you’re not breathing properly, then your baby’s not getting the oxygen or just the baby isn’t getting what it needs. And that’s when we decided to rent a hotel room to at least get some air conditioning to feel like I could breathe deeply. It just felt like there was no relief. There was nowhere you could go to get relief and to feel clean and to feel like you’re breathing clean air. And even, you know, I think even in LA it was happening. So it just felt like the world was burning. It wasn’t just San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alana Samuels \u003c/strong>[00:14:02] We rented Airbnb in South San Francisco, this was probably the worst day. And we woke up and it was like eight and it’s like the sun hadn’t come up. And I was like, did all the clocks fail? Or did what happened? We drove back to our house and it was just like people had their lights on. It was still dark out and it was that day that everything turned orange and for whatever reason, I guess it was the haze and the smoke, the sun just didn’t really come up and you took pictures and everything looked orange and that was when we were really like, this is not sustainable. I don’t know if we can continue to live like this. We had been talking about moving to the East Coast because both of our families are on the East coast, but San Francisco is my favorite place on the planet. And, you know, it’s just a place that kind of makes my chest relax and I just love it. And I think after that summer and after those days, we just felt like we couldn’t go through it again unless we had a lot of money. You know, you can probably install some sort of air purifying air conditioning system. To your house if you own your house, which we couldn’t afford to do. 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"content": "\u003cp>On this edition of The Bay’s monthly news roundup, Ericka is joined by The Bay’s senior editor Alan Montecillo and KQED associate arts and culture editor Nastia Voynovskaya. We talk about the Pickett Fire currently burning in Napa, scheduling and payment changes to public transit across the Bay, and why some local artists have decided to take their music off Spotify.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC1460162369&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ci>Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. San Francisco Northern California Local.\u003c/i>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Links:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents/2025/8/21/pickett-fire\">Pickett Fire\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/napa/pickett-fire-napa-cause-woodbridge/\">Did ‘escaped control burn’ cause Napa County’s Pickett Fire? Dispatch records raise questions about blaze’s origin\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12052690/bart-fares-2025-credit-card-clipper-tap-and-ride-contactless\">Starting This Week, You Can Tap Onto BART With a Credit Card — Here’s How\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13978141/deerhoof-quits-spotify-daniel-ek-700-million-military-ai-investment\">SF Band Ditches Spotify Over CEO’s $700M Military AI Investment\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bart.gov/news/articles/2025/news20250811\">Bay Area transit’s latest Big Sync improves transfers, saving riders up to 20 minutes per trip\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:02] I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. And welcome to our August news roundup where we talk about some of the other stories that The Bay team and today a special guest have been following this month. I’m joined by senior editor, Alan Montecillo. What’s up, Alan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:00:21] Hello.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:22] And our very special guest today is Nastia Vojnovskaya, associate editor of arts and culture for KQED. Hey Nastia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:29] Hi Ericka!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:30] Thank you so much for joining us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:32] Thanks for having me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:35] Before we dig into the stories that we’ve been following, Nastia, we wanted to have you on because it’s been a pretty busy August for you and the Arts Desk. Can you tell us a little bit about all the things you’ve been covering this month?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:49] It’s music festival season and full swing in the Bay Area. So earlier this month, I had the pleasure of covering Outside Lands. Um, I cover it every year. And this was a particularly good one where had I not been covering, I would have definitely wanted to be there for fun. Super standout performance by Doechii, who was not even a headliner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:01:13] Wow. I was just going to ask what were your favorite sets?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:01:25] She already had been at the top of my list of artists I’m watching, just based on her super strong album from last year, Alligator Bites Never Heal. And she just really showed everyone what showmanship and what being a performer is all about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:01:52] She can rap with the dexterity of Kendrick Lamar while moving like Megan Thee Stallion with no backing track. And then the whole performance was also formatted with this cheeky classroom lesson theme about hip hop. There were also so many homages to who came before and where she came from while creating this super futuristic vision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:02:16] August was kind of the month of music festivals or concerts in Golden Gate Park, right? There was Denton Company, Outside Lands, Zach Bryan. With Outside Lands how did it compare to previous years? And I mean, how do you know as an attendee and as someone covering it, whether it was like a big success compared to years past?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:02:35] I would say this year they did some very, very savvy booking. So in addition to Doechii, they had Doja Cat and also Tyler, The Creator. Tyler, he had played Outside Lands before, so when they announced it back in April, I was like, okay, I’m excited to see him again. I like him. But shortly before the festival, he released a fantastic new album. And it’s called Don’t Tap the Glass and the whole theme of that album is being present for the music in person and not being on your phone. And you kind of saw that translate in the crowd the way that people were so engaged. There were some really smart choices of well-positioned breakout acts that they booked. There’s this Brooklyn indie band whose name unfortunately we cannot say on the Radio, and it’s spelled F-C-U-K-E-R-S. And they played this smaller side stage earlier in the day. And I was so impressed by just how they packed out that stage with teens and 20-somethings who were just in this very dense crowd jumping up and down. They kind of have this indie sleaze vibe with electronics and live instruments and just like very sassy vocals. It’s very children of brat. And that band actually had a super packed high energy show, The Rickshaw Stop the night before. So I was just very impressed by how the festival had this mix of established and breaking acts that I think are about to be a lot bigger soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:05] I know LaRussell also performed at Outside Lands, and we also did a really amazing event with him this month as well. More on that on the show next month, actually. We did a real cool music showcase with LaRussall and the Good Company team. Really got to see some amazing artists locally, and we’re gonna do an interview with the winner next month. So look out for that, listeners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:34] I have a confession to make. I live next to the park. I have lived next to park for several years and I haven’t been to outside lands yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:04:41] But at least you can hear it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:43] I can hear it, I can definitely hear it. Some of my neighbors don’t love the fact that they can hear it, but I don’t mind. I should go and I will go. It’s expensive, but from what I hear, it’s worth it. I will get around to it, but I’m always a little embarrassed whenever this comes up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:59] Very clutch parking spot in front of his house, if you’re an outside lens attendee. Not that I’m offering it to our listeners. Well we’re gonna take a quick break and when we come back we’re going to dig into all the stories that we have been following this month. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:05:27] Let’s go ahead and dive into some of the other stories that we have been following this month. Alan, I wanna start with you and you’ve been following the Pickett Fire in Napa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:05:38] Yes, after a cold summer, a robust marine layer, Karl the Fog, out in full force, we are essentially in peak fire season from now until winter, basically, when it starts raining. And over the last week, we’ve had what has been the largest fire in the Bay Area so far, which is the Pickett fire. As of this taping, so Thursday morning, it has burned about 6,800 acres and is about 33% contained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:06:07] Yeah, and obviously whenever it comes to fire in the Bay Area, I think one of the main ways folks experience it is air quality, and I’ve been really watching that very closely. But can you tell us a little bit about where the fire is burning exactly? I know it’s pretty close to some big wineries in Napa, right, who are just about to approach harvest season.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:06:33] Yeah. So the fire broke out on the 21st of August along Pickett road in Napa County, just outside the town of Calistoga near several vineyards. So this fire is firmly, you know, in wine country, you know, In terms of smoke, the air quality management district did lift that advisory on Tuesday. So hopefully it’s not too bad anymore, but there’s still many areas where there are evacuation orders or evacuation warnings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:07:00] So has it burned down any residential areas?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:03] So far, it doesn’t seem like that’s happened. Not all the damage has been assessed yet. It seems like the main damage that’s been done, apart from smoke that can be hazardous to people’s health, is to crops. As Ericka mentioned, it is harvest season for these wineries. One early estimate from the county ag commissioner says approximately 1,500 acres of crops have been affected either by fire, by heat, or by smoke. Totaling and estimated, and again this is preliminary, about $65 million in damage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:07:38] Oh, wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:38] And what that means in a practical sense is, are wine grapes going to get ruined by the fire? This happened in 2020. And so the question just is, could that happen again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:07:50] Do you know how the wine industry has been adapting to that, if at all?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:54] Winemakers say, you know, over the last decade or so, the industry is trying to push for more research to figure out how to reduce the taste of smoke and minimize the effects of wildfire because you know it’s hard to tell immediately if the smoke has ruined your grapes. You won’t really know until you taste it. And there actually isn’t a ton of research yet on how to at least mitigate that. So maybe you do have smoke in your area because fire is a reality in California, but maybe there’s ways to minimize the taste and save the crops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:08:23] And I know it usually takes a while to figure out how a fire actually started, but do we know anything about how this fire in Napa began?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:08:33] So that is still under investigation. We don’t know for sure. But there have been some questions and details trickling out, and reporters asking whether this fire started as the result of a “escaped control burn”, basically a fire that’s intended to reduce vegetation on a property. The Press Democrat noted that those words, escape control, burn, appeared on a Cal Fire public safety dispatch around the same time the fire was reported. For what it’s worth, the winery in question said through a spokesperson, you know, we’re working with fire investigators. This is premature. So nothing has been confirmed officially yet, but there are some worries that this could have been how the fire started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:19] Well, Alan, thank you so much for sharing that story with us. We’re going to be following that one in the weeks ahead, I’m sure. Moving on to the story that I have been following this month, Nastia, Alan, you’re both public transit writers in the Bay Area, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:09:39] Yes, I took BART here this morning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:09:42] I’m a regular N rider.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:44] Nice and of course I’m a regular ferry rider and this might be of interest to all of us in this room. Some big changes have been happening to public transit in the Bay Area that is really all about making transit easier to ride. Not sure if you all have started using your debit or credit cards to ride BART but that is now a thing that you can do. And there’s also something called the Big Sync that is happening. Basically, all these transit systems in the Bay Area coordinating to make transfers a lot easier if you’re using one or more transit system. It’s about time. Right. I remember going to New York a couple of years ago and being able to ride the subway by just tapping my credit card. And as a tourist. I was amazed. I was mind blown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:10:43] Yeah, when they got rid of paper tickets and introduced clipper cards, I honestly always found it really problematic that if you lose your clipper card, you have to spend three dollars or something to get a new plastic card. And if you’re a low-income rider, you know that’s money you could be using for a meal. 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But I will say there is still something for Muni writers in the month of August, which is this big sink that I’m talking about. Have any of you heard of that? No, tell us more. So if you’re using more than one transit system, so you’re going from BART to Muni, all these agencies have tried to overhaul their schedules in order to make transfers a lot easier and a lot faster. So the focus is really for transfer hubs. In the Bay Area, so Dublin Pleasanton, BART, Daly City BART, Palo Alto Caltrain, and Concord BART Station. In all, these agencies adjusted 18 bus routes at these four hubs to improve connection times with each other. No more sprinting from Caltrain to BART for example. These agencies are saying that these changes account for a 33% increase in weekday ideal transfers. So basically you get five to 10 minutes in between one transit system to another to calmly start your morning and walk to your next transfer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:13:08] That’s gonna make a big difference for a lot of people, because I talk to so many people that want to ride public transit more, but oftentimes it just takes so much longer than driving or getting a rideshare.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:19] Right, exactly. You know, these agencies, these transportation agencies that have been really struggling since the pandemic, they got a lot of work to do to get people back on busses and trains, right? And this is really part of it. In terms of the why, this is part of an ongoing implementation of what’s known as the Bay Area Transformation Action Plan from 2021, which is all about improving public transit, making it more user-friendly. And creating a more connected system among all these different transit agencies around the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:13:54] Love to see it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:13:55] See you on the N, or the 22…maybe I shouldn’t give out —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:58] Yeah you’re right. We’re just getting closer and closer to figuring out where Alan Montecillo lives in this episode.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:14:15] Well, that is the story that I have been following. Nastia, we’re gonna wrap this one up with you. What story have you been following this month?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:14:24] I’ve been following the story of cultural boycotts. So in late July, a bunch of artists announced that they’re taking their music off Spotify because the CEO, Daniel Ek actually just became the chairman of an AI weapons company called Helsing. In light of Israel’s war in Gaza, a lot of artists have been thinking in past couple of years, how… Cultural institutions and companies that serve the culture sector can be complicit in war profiteering. Gabe Moline from KQED Arts wrote a great piece about how Dear Hoof, which is an indie band that formed in San Francisco and are pretty big, announced taking their music off Spotify. And another big voice in that has been Kadia Bonet, who’s this great singer-songwriter, also from the Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:15:19] How much of a financial hit would artists take for deciding to pull their music off something like Spotify, which obviously is huge, you know, so many people use it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:15:28] Well, just based off streams, honestly, negligible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:15:32] Because they don’t get paid that much?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:15:32] They do not. They do not get paid much at all. I’ve actually been covering artists’ fight for better pay on streaming services for a few years now. And Spotify doesn’t release its exact figures of how much it pays, but the general estimate going around in the industry is that they get a third of a cent per stream. 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Are they noticing that there are some artists who are upset, whether it’s about their CEO specifically or payment in general?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:17:54] So Spotify has not issued a public statement about its CEO becoming chairman of the AI weapons company, but it does have a lot of information on its website kind of arguing that it does give artists all these opportunities and that artists wouldn’t be making a certain amount of money if it wasn’t for Spotify. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:02] I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. And welcome to our August news roundup where we talk about some of the other stories that The Bay team and today a special guest have been following this month. I’m joined by senior editor, Alan Montecillo. What’s up, Alan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:00:21] Hello.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:22] And our very special guest today is Nastia Vojnovskaya, associate editor of arts and culture for KQED. Hey Nastia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:29] Hi Ericka!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:30] Thank you so much for joining us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:32] Thanks for having me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:35] Before we dig into the stories that we’ve been following, Nastia, we wanted to have you on because it’s been a pretty busy August for you and the Arts Desk. Can you tell us a little bit about all the things you’ve been covering this month?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:49] It’s music festival season and full swing in the Bay Area. So earlier this month, I had the pleasure of covering Outside Lands. Um, I cover it every year. And this was a particularly good one where had I not been covering, I would have definitely wanted to be there for fun. Super standout performance by Doechii, who was not even a headliner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:01:13] Wow. I was just going to ask what were your favorite sets?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:01:25] She already had been at the top of my list of artists I’m watching, just based on her super strong album from last year, Alligator Bites Never Heal. And she just really showed everyone what showmanship and what being a performer is all about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:01:52] She can rap with the dexterity of Kendrick Lamar while moving like Megan Thee Stallion with no backing track. And then the whole performance was also formatted with this cheeky classroom lesson theme about hip hop. There were also so many homages to who came before and where she came from while creating this super futuristic vision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:02:16] August was kind of the month of music festivals or concerts in Golden Gate Park, right? There was Denton Company, Outside Lands, Zach Bryan. With Outside Lands how did it compare to previous years? And I mean, how do you know as an attendee and as someone covering it, whether it was like a big success compared to years past?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:02:35] I would say this year they did some very, very savvy booking. So in addition to Doechii, they had Doja Cat and also Tyler, The Creator. Tyler, he had played Outside Lands before, so when they announced it back in April, I was like, okay, I’m excited to see him again. I like him. But shortly before the festival, he released a fantastic new album. And it’s called Don’t Tap the Glass and the whole theme of that album is being present for the music in person and not being on your phone. And you kind of saw that translate in the crowd the way that people were so engaged. There were some really smart choices of well-positioned breakout acts that they booked. There’s this Brooklyn indie band whose name unfortunately we cannot say on the Radio, and it’s spelled F-C-U-K-E-R-S. And they played this smaller side stage earlier in the day. And I was so impressed by just how they packed out that stage with teens and 20-somethings who were just in this very dense crowd jumping up and down. They kind of have this indie sleaze vibe with electronics and live instruments and just like very sassy vocals. It’s very children of brat. And that band actually had a super packed high energy show, The Rickshaw Stop the night before. So I was just very impressed by how the festival had this mix of established and breaking acts that I think are about to be a lot bigger soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:05] I know LaRussell also performed at Outside Lands, and we also did a really amazing event with him this month as well. More on that on the show next month, actually. We did a real cool music showcase with LaRussall and the Good Company team. Really got to see some amazing artists locally, and we’re gonna do an interview with the winner next month. So look out for that, listeners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:34] I have a confession to make. I live next to the park. I have lived next to park for several years and I haven’t been to outside lands yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:04:41] But at least you can hear it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:43] I can hear it, I can definitely hear it. Some of my neighbors don’t love the fact that they can hear it, but I don’t mind. I should go and I will go. It’s expensive, but from what I hear, it’s worth it. I will get around to it, but I’m always a little embarrassed whenever this comes up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:59] Very clutch parking spot in front of his house, if you’re an outside lens attendee. Not that I’m offering it to our listeners. Well we’re gonna take a quick break and when we come back we’re going to dig into all the stories that we have been following this month. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:05:27] Let’s go ahead and dive into some of the other stories that we have been following this month. Alan, I wanna start with you and you’ve been following the Pickett Fire in Napa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:05:38] Yes, after a cold summer, a robust marine layer, Karl the Fog, out in full force, we are essentially in peak fire season from now until winter, basically, when it starts raining. And over the last week, we’ve had what has been the largest fire in the Bay Area so far, which is the Pickett fire. As of this taping, so Thursday morning, it has burned about 6,800 acres and is about 33% contained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:06:07] Yeah, and obviously whenever it comes to fire in the Bay Area, I think one of the main ways folks experience it is air quality, and I’ve been really watching that very closely. But can you tell us a little bit about where the fire is burning exactly? I know it’s pretty close to some big wineries in Napa, right, who are just about to approach harvest season.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:06:33] Yeah. So the fire broke out on the 21st of August along Pickett road in Napa County, just outside the town of Calistoga near several vineyards. So this fire is firmly, you know, in wine country, you know, In terms of smoke, the air quality management district did lift that advisory on Tuesday. So hopefully it’s not too bad anymore, but there’s still many areas where there are evacuation orders or evacuation warnings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:07:00] So has it burned down any residential areas?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:03] So far, it doesn’t seem like that’s happened. Not all the damage has been assessed yet. It seems like the main damage that’s been done, apart from smoke that can be hazardous to people’s health, is to crops. As Ericka mentioned, it is harvest season for these wineries. One early estimate from the county ag commissioner says approximately 1,500 acres of crops have been affected either by fire, by heat, or by smoke. Totaling and estimated, and again this is preliminary, about $65 million in damage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:07:38] Oh, wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:38] And what that means in a practical sense is, are wine grapes going to get ruined by the fire? This happened in 2020. And so the question just is, could that happen again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:07:50] Do you know how the wine industry has been adapting to that, if at all?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:54] Winemakers say, you know, over the last decade or so, the industry is trying to push for more research to figure out how to reduce the taste of smoke and minimize the effects of wildfire because you know it’s hard to tell immediately if the smoke has ruined your grapes. You won’t really know until you taste it. And there actually isn’t a ton of research yet on how to at least mitigate that. So maybe you do have smoke in your area because fire is a reality in California, but maybe there’s ways to minimize the taste and save the crops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:08:23] And I know it usually takes a while to figure out how a fire actually started, but do we know anything about how this fire in Napa began?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:08:33] So that is still under investigation. We don’t know for sure. But there have been some questions and details trickling out, and reporters asking whether this fire started as the result of a “escaped control burn”, basically a fire that’s intended to reduce vegetation on a property. The Press Democrat noted that those words, escape control, burn, appeared on a Cal Fire public safety dispatch around the same time the fire was reported. For what it’s worth, the winery in question said through a spokesperson, you know, we’re working with fire investigators. This is premature. So nothing has been confirmed officially yet, but there are some worries that this could have been how the fire started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:19] Well, Alan, thank you so much for sharing that story with us. We’re going to be following that one in the weeks ahead, I’m sure. Moving on to the story that I have been following this month, Nastia, Alan, you’re both public transit writers in the Bay Area, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:09:39] Yes, I took BART here this morning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:09:42] I’m a regular N rider.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:44] Nice and of course I’m a regular ferry rider and this might be of interest to all of us in this room. Some big changes have been happening to public transit in the Bay Area that is really all about making transit easier to ride. Not sure if you all have started using your debit or credit cards to ride BART but that is now a thing that you can do. And there’s also something called the Big Sync that is happening. Basically, all these transit systems in the Bay Area coordinating to make transfers a lot easier if you’re using one or more transit system. It’s about time. Right. I remember going to New York a couple of years ago and being able to ride the subway by just tapping my credit card. And as a tourist. I was amazed. I was mind blown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:10:43] Yeah, when they got rid of paper tickets and introduced clipper cards, I honestly always found it really problematic that if you lose your clipper card, you have to spend three dollars or something to get a new plastic card. And if you’re a low-income rider, you know that’s money you could be using for a meal. So I’m glad that they’re changing the way it’s done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:11:02] Well, and it also brings BART closer to transit systems that already have this. You mentioned this already. New York has it. Chicago has it, many places overseas have it already. Sadly, for those of us who travel among multiple transit agencies, so let’s say you’re going BART to Muni like you do, it hasn’t come to Muni yet, right? You’ll still tap your credit card for BART and then use something else for Muni.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:11:25] Yeah, fumble to find your other plastic card to ride Muni. Yes, that is correct. This open payment system, as it’s called, of using a debit card or a credit card has not rolled out for Muni yet, but that kind of is the goal. Bay Area Transit officials say that they do want to use this eventually for all regional operators, Muni, Caltrain, AC Transit. So TBD for you, Alan. But I will say there is still something for Muni writers in the month of August, which is this big sink that I’m talking about. Have any of you heard of that? No, tell us more. So if you’re using more than one transit system, so you’re going from BART to Muni, all these agencies have tried to overhaul their schedules in order to make transfers a lot easier and a lot faster. So the focus is really for transfer hubs. In the Bay Area, so Dublin Pleasanton, BART, Daly City BART, Palo Alto Caltrain, and Concord BART Station. In all, these agencies adjusted 18 bus routes at these four hubs to improve connection times with each other. No more sprinting from Caltrain to BART for example. These agencies are saying that these changes account for a 33% increase in weekday ideal transfers. So basically you get five to 10 minutes in between one transit system to another to calmly start your morning and walk to your next transfer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:13:08] That’s gonna make a big difference for a lot of people, because I talk to so many people that want to ride public transit more, but oftentimes it just takes so much longer than driving or getting a rideshare.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:19] Right, exactly. You know, these agencies, these transportation agencies that have been really struggling since the pandemic, they got a lot of work to do to get people back on busses and trains, right? And this is really part of it. In terms of the why, this is part of an ongoing implementation of what’s known as the Bay Area Transformation Action Plan from 2021, which is all about improving public transit, making it more user-friendly. 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So in late July, a bunch of artists announced that they’re taking their music off Spotify because the CEO, Daniel Ek actually just became the chairman of an AI weapons company called Helsing. In light of Israel’s war in Gaza, a lot of artists have been thinking in past couple of years, how… Cultural institutions and companies that serve the culture sector can be complicit in war profiteering. Gabe Moline from KQED Arts wrote a great piece about how Dear Hoof, which is an indie band that formed in San Francisco and are pretty big, announced taking their music off Spotify. 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That makes them more at risk for heat illness, she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think that people don’t even think of children often as being high risk populations,” Basu says. “ But they absolutely are.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For these reasons, Gaslin at the Alliance for Camp Health thinks parents and guardians should be asking camps how they are thinking about heat and hydration. She suggests parents and guardians ask about how the camp’s physical site is designed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Do you have things like shade structures? Misting systems?” Gaslin says. “A really solid infrastructure build is important.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gaslin also thinks parents and guardians should be asking about how “climate-aware” the campers’ schedules are. That can look like an activity in a cool location, then an activity outside in a warmer location, then back into the cool, she says. 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"content": "\u003cp>The most destructive fires in L.A. County history erupted six months ago today, killing at least 30 people and destroying more than 16,000 structures, mostly homes, and reshaping the region in ways large and small.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead of January’s landscape of chimneys and staircases rising from rubble, today empty dirt lots extend block after block in Altadena and the Pacific Palisades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A handful of people who survived the Eaton and Palisades fires have broken ground on rebuilds. Many remain displaced. Still others decided to move on, restart their lives elsewhere. For most, the emotional pain remains all too present.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How much can change in six months. And how little.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s where things stand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Recovery by the numbers\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has cleared debris from more than 9,000 lots in the Eaton and Palisades fire burn zones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ninety-seven percent of properties in the Eaton Fire zone have been cleared, and 87% in the Palisades Fire burn zone, \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://www.spl.usace.army.mil/Missions/Emergency-Management/Los-Angeles-County-Wildfire-Debris-Removal-Mission/\">\u003cu>according to the Army Corps progress tracker\u003c/u>\u003c/a>. Nearly 1,000 properties that opted out of the government debris removal program \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/la-county-fire-debris-removal-program-opt-out-deadline\">\u003cu>still need to be cleared\u003c/u>\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Eaton cleanup has moved faster in part because the area affected by the Palisades Fire had more properties that were challenging to get to, said Army Corps Col. Eric Swenson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ In some cases we have individuals on rappel lines, hand-collecting debris down the side of a mountain,” Swenson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Swenson added that the homes that burned in the Palisades Fire were also larger on average and required more time to clear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047276\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1584px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047276\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1584\" height=\"1056\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy.jpg 1584w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1584px) 100vw, 1584px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Crews remove wildfire debris on hillside property, June 27 in Pacific Palisades. Using a rope descent systems to safely maneuver on the rugged slopes, personnel are removing debris by hand in areas too dangerous for heavy equipment. \u003ccite>(Charles Delano/US Army Corps of Engineers)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>He estimates that all Army Corps-led debris removal will be done by mid-summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That progress means that the staging areas for debris are in the process of winding down: The Altadena Golf Course, which had drawn concern from neighboring residents \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/la-fires-debris-toxic-where-does-it-all-go\">\u003cu>about pollution from the site\u003c/u>\u003c/a>, stopped accepting new waste on July 1, Swenson said. He estimated the golf course would be turned back over in December.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047277\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1584px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047277\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1584\" height=\"1056\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-1.jpg 1584w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1584px) 100vw, 1584px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A sign at an Altadena property showing that it was cleared by the US Army Corps of Engineers. \u003ccite>(Brian Feinzimer/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Temescal Canyon Road, where debris was being processed for the Palisades Fire, stopped accepting new material in May and will be turned over to the community in mid-August.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>More rebuild permits\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>With lots now cleared, more survivors are working to select architects and building contractors, while filling out the mounds of paperwork they need approved before they can start rebuilding their homes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About a quarter of the nearly 400 rebuild permits applied for by property owners in the Pacific Palisades have been approved, according to L.A. city’s department of building and safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Altadena, about 5% of more than 900 rebuild permits submitted have been approved, \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://recovery.lacounty.gov/rebuilding/permitting-progress-dashboard/\">\u003cu>according to L.A. County\u003c/u>\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One reason for the difference is that the city of L.A. \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://mayor.lacity.gov/news/mayor-bass-issues-emergency-executive-order-suspending-collection-rebuilding-fees-palisades\">\u003cu>has waived\u003c/u>\u003c/a> permitting fees and taken \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://mayor.lacity.gov/news/mayor-bass-issues-new-executive-actions-further-expedite-rebuilding-process-ahead-trip\">\u003cu>other actions\u003c/u>\u003c/a> to streamline the permitting process in the Palisades, including approving “like-for-like” rebuilds within 30 days. As an unincorporated community, Altadena residents have to work with the county’s planning, fire and public works departments that are already stretched thin.[aside postID=news_12022146 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-056-1020x680.jpg']The L.A. County Board of Supervisors has taken similar actions to expedite the permitting process but only recently approved \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://file.lacounty.gov/SDSInter/bos/supdocs/204271.pdf?utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term=\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cu>a motion\u003c/u>\u003c/a> brought by Supervisor Kathryn Barger to defer and refund permit fees. The turnaround time for approval is on average about 50 business days, according to the county’s tracker, but the goal is to reduce that to 30 days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I want to see our planning department move with a sense of urgency, not be bureaucratic, something that I continue to struggle with,” Barger told LAist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Kerjon Lee with the county’s public works department said the turnaround time is significantly lower than average permit approval time of 158 days under normal circumstances.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lee said a common issue they’re seeing is that applications are often missing key signatures and details, especially for “like-for-like” rebuild projects that add an accessory dwelling unit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Steve Gibson, who lost his home of 24 years in Altadena, is one of the hundreds of residents waiting for a decision from the county. He and his wife have already selected a prefab housing contractor and rebuild design for their new home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gibson said the wait time and permitting fees were hurdles that have slowed the rebuild process in his neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The permit fees to rebuild a house are a huge amount of money and a huge process,” Gibson said. “And we feel the same problem in other areas, that we’re not getting responsiveness to our urgent needs in Altadena.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Insurance woes continue\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Like many, Gibson is trying to rebuild while still completing the inventory of every single thing that he and his wife lost in the fire — from family heirlooms and photos to art, clothes and furniture — in order to receive their insurance payment. When they fled the fire, they were only able to grab their passports, insurance papers and small dog, Cantinflas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047279\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 160px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-12047279\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2-160x213.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"160\" height=\"213\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2-160x213.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2.jpg 1584w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Steve Gibson and his wife Charlotte stand on the cleared lot of their home of 24 years that burned down in the Eaton Fire. The Army Corps cleared their property in June. \u003ccite>(Sunny Mills)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>They received half of what their insurance plan says it can cover for the loss of personal property, and need to complete their inventory to argue for the rest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That inventory, he said, is a constant pain point for him and many fellow survivors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ We all feel like it’s the hardest thing in our lives,” Gibson said. “It’s an emotional rollercoaster. It’s hard to remember, it’s painful to remember and it feels like a tragedy. I said to one of my neighbors — we need emotional counseling after having to go through putting together an inventory.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gibson’s insurance provider, Allstate, did provide a full payout to cover rebuilding their home. But Gibson said that the amount is still more than $100,000 short of what they need. A $50,000 Small Business Administration loan will help, Gibson said, but many of his neighbors are facing the same gap between rebuild costs and insurance payouts — \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/six-years-woolsey-fire-struggle-rebuild-continues\">\u003cu>a common barrier to rebuilding\u003c/u>\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We decided to go for it kind of on a leap of faith that we will be able to cover the differences,” Gibson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Palisades Fire survivor Darragh Danton calls the divide between insurance payouts and rebuild costs “the gap.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said she and her neighbors are talking about solutions such as group rates on materials, and working together as a community to rebuild to keep costs down. They’ve already paid a land surveyor as a neighborhood for a reduced rate, she said.[aside postID=news_12043312 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ-L-AND-NINA-RAJ-WITH-A-CHILD_S-DRAWING-RECOVERED-BY-RAJ-AFTER-THE-EATON-FIRE-KQED-1020x765.jpg']Palisades resident Jill Lawrence’s home survived, but she said fighting her insurance company to clean it up has been a disaster in and of itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said her house is still full of lead and other toxic soot — she and her husband did their own testing initially and months later their insurance company came out to test, too, finding even worse levels of lead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, the house hasn’t been cleaned up. Lawrence said she’s spending 15 or 20 hours a week negotiating her insurance. Meanwhile, she and her husband are living in a rental in Playa del Rey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s just weird to me six months later that my house is still standing in soot and ash, and it’s really because of the insurance companies,” she said. “It’s crazy to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fact so many people are dealing with the same insurance issues has sparked new waves of policy efforts by state leaders, but it may come too late for the latest round of fire survivors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, one \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260sb495\">\u003cu>bill\u003c/u>\u003c/a> currently moving through the California legislature would eliminate the inventory requirement in the case of a total loss and require a full insurance payout. The state insurance commissioner has also launched efforts \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/california-lawmakers-propose-fixes-for-insurance-industry-in-shambles\">\u003cu>to reform the insurance industry\u003c/u>\u003c/a> and \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://www.insurance.ca.gov/0400-news/0100-press-releases/2025/release043-2025.cfm\">\u003cu>an investigation into State Farm smoke damage claims\u003c/u>\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Renters are struggling\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Renters have also faced daunting challenges since January — often with even less support than homeowners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maribel Marin, the executive director of the emergency helpline \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://211la.org/\">\u003cu>211 LA\u003c/u>\u003c/a>, said the nonprofit is working with more than 3,000 households affected by the fires, and that the majority of them are renters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re experiencing rental rates that are two or three times that for the same level of housing that they had before,” Marin said. “It’s really, really tough to find housing, especially affordable housing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047280\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1584px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047280\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1584\" height=\"1188\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-3.jpg 1584w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-3-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-3-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1584px) 100vw, 1584px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The site of a former mobile home park in Pacific Palisades in mid June. Many Palisades and Eaton Fire survivors are facing the loss of affordable housing and unable to make ends meet in a brutal housing market. \u003ccite>(Erin Stone/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Finding housing continues to be the biggest need for displaced renters, Marin said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hundreds are still in temporary and insecure housing, with more than 100 families living in their vehicles, according to data from 211 L.A.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marin said close to 250 households are living in temporary AirBnBs — a service paid for by the vacation rental company.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Looking ahead\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Lawsuits from fire survivors are moving forward as the causes of the fires continue to be investigated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Evidence shows the Eaton Fire was likely caused by Southern California Edison equipment. Trials related to that fire should only take a few weeks, but because there are so many, it will likely be years before many plaintiffs see their cases closed, said Amanda Riddle, managing partner of Corey, Luzaich, de Ghetaldi & Riddle LLP, and the court-appointed co-liaison counsel for all individual plaintiffs in the Eaton Fire case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047283\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1176px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047283\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2.39.23-PM.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1176\" height=\"780\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2.39.23-PM.jpg 1176w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2.39.23-PM-160x106.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1176px) 100vw, 1176px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An aerial view of Altadena showing several cleared properties amongst many more awaiting to be cleared of debris and rubble from the Eaton Fire. \u003ccite>(Brian Feinzimer/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Not all 10,000 households are going to have a trial at the same time,” Riddle said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Residents have until Jan. 7, 2028, to join a lawsuit for damages caused by the fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another big milestone that everyone from government agencies to lawyers are waiting for: an independent review of the evacuation policies and emergency alert notification systems used by the county during the Eaton and Palisades fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The “after action report” is being compiled \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://recovery.lacounty.gov/2025/02/07/mcchrystal-group-selected-to-conduct-after-action-review-of-response-to-eaton-and-palisades-fires/\">by the McChrystal Group\u003c/a>. The first progress report is expected to be released this summer, but the full review will likely take longer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047284\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1176px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047284\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-1-copy.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1176\" height=\"780\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-1-copy.jpg 1176w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-1-copy-160x106.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1176px) 100vw, 1176px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An aerial view of the Pacific Palisades Bowl Mobile Home Park in Los Angeles on Jan. 18, 2025. The park was completely burned down by the Palisades fire. \u003ccite>(Ted Soqui/SIPA USA via Reuters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Emotional toll remains fresh\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>With so much left unresolved, the emotional toll remains as fresh as ever for many survivors six months after the fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is ever present, so it does feel like it just happened yesterday,” said Robin Hughes, who lost her home in Altadena. “The passage of time is so muddled, and there’s just so much to do with my own personal rebuild, supporting the rebuild of Altadena. It does feel like it’s been this long, extended day.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047285\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1584px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047285\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-4.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1584\" height=\"1056\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-4.jpg 1584w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-4-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-4-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1584px) 100vw, 1584px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A message of hope is hung from the gates of a home in an Altadena neighborhood on Jan. 30, 2025. \u003ccite>(Julie Leopo/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>For Gibson, the experience of losing his home lurks behind every conversation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ I have a hard time talking to people about it,” Gibson said. “What should I say? Should I express how angry I am about things or should I just say everything’s fine? I’m realizing now that’s a real struggle.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For most, their biggest allies have been fellow survivors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Many of us who went through the fire believe that people can’t understand it if you haven’t,” Gibson said. “It’s really hard to understand the feelings that come with that, how it changes your life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>Join us on \u003c/i>\u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://laist.com/events/6-months-after\">\u003ci>July 9 at a special live event\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci> with LAist climate and environment reporter Erin Stone. She’ll talk with survivors of previous fires as well as other experts to learn what to expect as the recovery process continues.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Recovery by the numbers\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has cleared debris from more than 9,000 lots in the Eaton and Palisades fire burn zones.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ninety-seven percent of properties in the Eaton Fire zone have been cleared, and 87% in the Palisades Fire burn zone, \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://www.spl.usace.army.mil/Missions/Emergency-Management/Los-Angeles-County-Wildfire-Debris-Removal-Mission/\">\u003cu>according to the Army Corps progress tracker\u003c/u>\u003c/a>. Nearly 1,000 properties that opted out of the government debris removal program \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/la-county-fire-debris-removal-program-opt-out-deadline\">\u003cu>still need to be cleared\u003c/u>\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Eaton cleanup has moved faster in part because the area affected by the Palisades Fire had more properties that were challenging to get to, said Army Corps Col. Eric Swenson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ In some cases we have individuals on rappel lines, hand-collecting debris down the side of a mountain,” Swenson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Swenson added that the homes that burned in the Palisades Fire were also larger on average and required more time to clear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047276\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1584px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047276\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1584\" height=\"1056\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy.jpg 1584w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1584px) 100vw, 1584px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Crews remove wildfire debris on hillside property, June 27 in Pacific Palisades. Using a rope descent systems to safely maneuver on the rugged slopes, personnel are removing debris by hand in areas too dangerous for heavy equipment. \u003ccite>(Charles Delano/US Army Corps of Engineers)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>He estimates that all Army Corps-led debris removal will be done by mid-summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That progress means that the staging areas for debris are in the process of winding down: The Altadena Golf Course, which had drawn concern from neighboring residents \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/la-fires-debris-toxic-where-does-it-all-go\">\u003cu>about pollution from the site\u003c/u>\u003c/a>, stopped accepting new waste on July 1, Swenson said. He estimated the golf course would be turned back over in December.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047277\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1584px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047277\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1584\" height=\"1056\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-1.jpg 1584w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1584px) 100vw, 1584px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A sign at an Altadena property showing that it was cleared by the US Army Corps of Engineers. \u003ccite>(Brian Feinzimer/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Temescal Canyon Road, where debris was being processed for the Palisades Fire, stopped accepting new material in May and will be turned over to the community in mid-August.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>More rebuild permits\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>With lots now cleared, more survivors are working to select architects and building contractors, while filling out the mounds of paperwork they need approved before they can start rebuilding their homes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About a quarter of the nearly 400 rebuild permits applied for by property owners in the Pacific Palisades have been approved, according to L.A. city’s department of building and safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Altadena, about 5% of more than 900 rebuild permits submitted have been approved, \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://recovery.lacounty.gov/rebuilding/permitting-progress-dashboard/\">\u003cu>according to L.A. County\u003c/u>\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One reason for the difference is that the city of L.A. \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://mayor.lacity.gov/news/mayor-bass-issues-emergency-executive-order-suspending-collection-rebuilding-fees-palisades\">\u003cu>has waived\u003c/u>\u003c/a> permitting fees and taken \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://mayor.lacity.gov/news/mayor-bass-issues-new-executive-actions-further-expedite-rebuilding-process-ahead-trip\">\u003cu>other actions\u003c/u>\u003c/a> to streamline the permitting process in the Palisades, including approving “like-for-like” rebuilds within 30 days. As an unincorporated community, Altadena residents have to work with the county’s planning, fire and public works departments that are already stretched thin.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The L.A. County Board of Supervisors has taken similar actions to expedite the permitting process but only recently approved \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://file.lacounty.gov/SDSInter/bos/supdocs/204271.pdf?utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term=\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cu>a motion\u003c/u>\u003c/a> brought by Supervisor Kathryn Barger to defer and refund permit fees. The turnaround time for approval is on average about 50 business days, according to the county’s tracker, but the goal is to reduce that to 30 days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I want to see our planning department move with a sense of urgency, not be bureaucratic, something that I continue to struggle with,” Barger told LAist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Kerjon Lee with the county’s public works department said the turnaround time is significantly lower than average permit approval time of 158 days under normal circumstances.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lee said a common issue they’re seeing is that applications are often missing key signatures and details, especially for “like-for-like” rebuild projects that add an accessory dwelling unit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Steve Gibson, who lost his home of 24 years in Altadena, is one of the hundreds of residents waiting for a decision from the county. He and his wife have already selected a prefab housing contractor and rebuild design for their new home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gibson said the wait time and permitting fees were hurdles that have slowed the rebuild process in his neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The permit fees to rebuild a house are a huge amount of money and a huge process,” Gibson said. “And we feel the same problem in other areas, that we’re not getting responsiveness to our urgent needs in Altadena.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Insurance woes continue\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Like many, Gibson is trying to rebuild while still completing the inventory of every single thing that he and his wife lost in the fire — from family heirlooms and photos to art, clothes and furniture — in order to receive their insurance payment. When they fled the fire, they were only able to grab their passports, insurance papers and small dog, Cantinflas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047279\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 160px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-12047279\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2-160x213.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"160\" height=\"213\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2-160x213.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2.jpg 1584w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Steve Gibson and his wife Charlotte stand on the cleared lot of their home of 24 years that burned down in the Eaton Fire. The Army Corps cleared their property in June. \u003ccite>(Sunny Mills)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>They received half of what their insurance plan says it can cover for the loss of personal property, and need to complete their inventory to argue for the rest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That inventory, he said, is a constant pain point for him and many fellow survivors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ We all feel like it’s the hardest thing in our lives,” Gibson said. “It’s an emotional rollercoaster. It’s hard to remember, it’s painful to remember and it feels like a tragedy. I said to one of my neighbors — we need emotional counseling after having to go through putting together an inventory.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gibson’s insurance provider, Allstate, did provide a full payout to cover rebuilding their home. But Gibson said that the amount is still more than $100,000 short of what they need. A $50,000 Small Business Administration loan will help, Gibson said, but many of his neighbors are facing the same gap between rebuild costs and insurance payouts — \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/six-years-woolsey-fire-struggle-rebuild-continues\">\u003cu>a common barrier to rebuilding\u003c/u>\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We decided to go for it kind of on a leap of faith that we will be able to cover the differences,” Gibson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Palisades Fire survivor Darragh Danton calls the divide between insurance payouts and rebuild costs “the gap.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said she and her neighbors are talking about solutions such as group rates on materials, and working together as a community to rebuild to keep costs down. They’ve already paid a land surveyor as a neighborhood for a reduced rate, she said.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Palisades resident Jill Lawrence’s home survived, but she said fighting her insurance company to clean it up has been a disaster in and of itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said her house is still full of lead and other toxic soot — she and her husband did their own testing initially and months later their insurance company came out to test, too, finding even worse levels of lead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, the house hasn’t been cleaned up. Lawrence said she’s spending 15 or 20 hours a week negotiating her insurance. Meanwhile, she and her husband are living in a rental in Playa del Rey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s just weird to me six months later that my house is still standing in soot and ash, and it’s really because of the insurance companies,” she said. “It’s crazy to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fact so many people are dealing with the same insurance issues has sparked new waves of policy efforts by state leaders, but it may come too late for the latest round of fire survivors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, one \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260sb495\">\u003cu>bill\u003c/u>\u003c/a> currently moving through the California legislature would eliminate the inventory requirement in the case of a total loss and require a full insurance payout. The state insurance commissioner has also launched efforts \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/california-lawmakers-propose-fixes-for-insurance-industry-in-shambles\">\u003cu>to reform the insurance industry\u003c/u>\u003c/a> and \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://www.insurance.ca.gov/0400-news/0100-press-releases/2025/release043-2025.cfm\">\u003cu>an investigation into State Farm smoke damage claims\u003c/u>\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Renters are struggling\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Renters have also faced daunting challenges since January — often with even less support than homeowners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maribel Marin, the executive director of the emergency helpline \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://211la.org/\">\u003cu>211 LA\u003c/u>\u003c/a>, said the nonprofit is working with more than 3,000 households affected by the fires, and that the majority of them are renters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re experiencing rental rates that are two or three times that for the same level of housing that they had before,” Marin said. “It’s really, really tough to find housing, especially affordable housing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047280\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1584px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047280\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1584\" height=\"1188\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-3.jpg 1584w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-3-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-3-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1584px) 100vw, 1584px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The site of a former mobile home park in Pacific Palisades in mid June. Many Palisades and Eaton Fire survivors are facing the loss of affordable housing and unable to make ends meet in a brutal housing market. \u003ccite>(Erin Stone/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Finding housing continues to be the biggest need for displaced renters, Marin said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hundreds are still in temporary and insecure housing, with more than 100 families living in their vehicles, according to data from 211 L.A.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marin said close to 250 households are living in temporary AirBnBs — a service paid for by the vacation rental company.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Looking ahead\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Lawsuits from fire survivors are moving forward as the causes of the fires continue to be investigated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Evidence shows the Eaton Fire was likely caused by Southern California Edison equipment. Trials related to that fire should only take a few weeks, but because there are so many, it will likely be years before many plaintiffs see their cases closed, said Amanda Riddle, managing partner of Corey, Luzaich, de Ghetaldi & Riddle LLP, and the court-appointed co-liaison counsel for all individual plaintiffs in the Eaton Fire case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047283\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1176px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047283\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2.39.23-PM.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1176\" height=\"780\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2.39.23-PM.jpg 1176w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-2.39.23-PM-160x106.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1176px) 100vw, 1176px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An aerial view of Altadena showing several cleared properties amongst many more awaiting to be cleared of debris and rubble from the Eaton Fire. \u003ccite>(Brian Feinzimer/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Not all 10,000 households are going to have a trial at the same time,” Riddle said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Residents have until Jan. 7, 2028, to join a lawsuit for damages caused by the fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another big milestone that everyone from government agencies to lawyers are waiting for: an independent review of the evacuation policies and emergency alert notification systems used by the county during the Eaton and Palisades fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The “after action report” is being compiled \u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://recovery.lacounty.gov/2025/02/07/mcchrystal-group-selected-to-conduct-after-action-review-of-response-to-eaton-and-palisades-fires/\">by the McChrystal Group\u003c/a>. The first progress report is expected to be released this summer, but the full review will likely take longer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047284\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1176px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047284\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-1-copy.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1176\" height=\"780\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-1-copy.jpg 1176w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-1-copy-160x106.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1176px) 100vw, 1176px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An aerial view of the Pacific Palisades Bowl Mobile Home Park in Los Angeles on Jan. 18, 2025. The park was completely burned down by the Palisades fire. \u003ccite>(Ted Soqui/SIPA USA via Reuters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Emotional toll remains fresh\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>With so much left unresolved, the emotional toll remains as fresh as ever for many survivors six months after the fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is ever present, so it does feel like it just happened yesterday,” said Robin Hughes, who lost her home in Altadena. “The passage of time is so muddled, and there’s just so much to do with my own personal rebuild, supporting the rebuild of Altadena. It does feel like it’s been this long, extended day.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047285\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1584px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047285\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-4.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1584\" height=\"1056\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-4.jpg 1584w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-4-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/scpr.brightspotcdn-copy-4-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1584px) 100vw, 1584px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A message of hope is hung from the gates of a home in an Altadena neighborhood on Jan. 30, 2025. \u003ccite>(Julie Leopo/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>For Gibson, the experience of losing his home lurks behind every conversation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ I have a hard time talking to people about it,” Gibson said. “What should I say? Should I express how angry I am about things or should I just say everything’s fine? I’m realizing now that’s a real struggle.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For most, their biggest allies have been fellow survivors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Many of us who went through the fire believe that people can’t understand it if you haven’t,” Gibson said. “It’s really hard to understand the feelings that come with that, how it changes your life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>Join us on \u003c/i>\u003ca class=\"Link\" href=\"https://laist.com/events/6-months-after\">\u003ci>July 9 at a special live event\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci> with LAist climate and environment reporter Erin Stone. She’ll talk with survivors of previous fires as well as other experts to learn what to expect as the recovery process continues.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>As Northern California enters what is likely to be a dangerous fire season, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/sonoma-county\">Sonoma County\u003c/a> is unprepared to handle widespread evacuations in the event of a fire or flood, according to a new watchdog report.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just months after a report by a local nonprofit suggested that the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12026776/sonoma-valley-roads-could-be-a-death-trap-in-wildfire-evacuation-report-says\">county’s roads could be a “deathtrap” for fleeing residents\u003c/a>, an investigation by the Civil Grand Jury, a branch of the county’s judiciary, found that in addition to inadequate evacuation routes, the county’s emergency communication strategies and pre-planning information is in need of upgrades that aren’t coming soon enough.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Without accelerated investment in planning, communications, and road improvements — and full compliance with California’s legal standards — the risk of chaotic, life-threatening evacuations remains high,” the report reads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By complying with five recommendations to improve those things, the report says, “the county can move closer to being truly ready for the next major evacuation event. And one is coming.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rob Hunter, one of the authors of the new report, said that Sonoma County’s emergency operations and hazard mitigation plans have likely been greatly improved in the last seven years, since Sonoma was hit with four consecutive destructive fire seasons.[aside postID=news_12026776 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/04/RS27218_GettyImages-859408976-qut-e1588111687147.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the county has been lucky not to have major incidents in the last three years, since planning for evacuation, shelter, and coordinated communication are in sore need of upgrades, he told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Certainly the county has made an investment and the Department of Emergency Management is more able today than it was seven years ago, but the rest of the report essentially identifies there is additional progress that could and should be made,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report found that most of the county’s evacuation routes were incapable of handling the anticipated traffic in an emergency in a timely manner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Highways 12 and 116, which are key for evacuating from the Sonoma Valley and western Sonoma County, respectively, have intersections that gridlock during heavy traffic, according to the report. Other critical roads along the Russian River are single lane — some of which are also located in spots \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12025777/north-bay-rivers-flood-after-storm-little-time-prepare-next-round-rain\">vulnerable to mudslides\u003c/a> in flooding events.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The jury also wrote that they were disheartened to learn in interviews with emergency officials that those roads aren’t likely to see significant upgrades in the near future: “The roads are the roads; improving them is expensive, complicated, and, in most cases, requires support from the State of California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sonoma County’s main evacuation routes have been, and probably will continue to be, bottlenecks for future evacuations,” the report said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12028912\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12028912\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250225-Rebuilding-Electric-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1500\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250225-Rebuilding-Electric-2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250225-Rebuilding-Electric-2-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250225-Rebuilding-Electric-2-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250225-Rebuilding-Electric-2-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250225-Rebuilding-Electric-2-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250225-Rebuilding-Electric-2-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The remnants of Cathy Crowley and Paul Amlin’s home in Santa Rosa after it was burned down in the Tubbs Fire in 2017. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Cathy Crowley)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While they posed questions about the feasibility of prioritizing such improvements, the jury didn’t go so far as to include major revisions to the roadways in its recommendations. But aside from material improvements, it said that accelerating the county’s timelines to comply with state required planning reports and studies could also make evacuations faster and smoother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State law requires the county to complete a study identifying the transportation infrastructure that is needed in the county to deliver emergency services, but according to Sonoma’s general plan, it doesn’t expect to begin work on this until 2030. It won’t develop required zoned emergency evacuation plans until the same year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the meantime, should we all just hope there are no emergencies?” the report said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It recommends that county officials move up work on the study and evacuation plans to 2027, and include funding for the efforts in that year’s budget.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finally, the report recommends that the county improve its communication system for emergency alerts, which largely relies on access to the internet and power — resources that often disappear during natural disasters.[aside postID=news_12020808 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/CAWildfireSoCal1AP.jpg']During the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/tubbs-fire\">Tubbs Fire\u003c/a> in 2017, the only official information source many of the affected residents could access was AM radio, but in many parts of Sonoma County that are remote and rural, cell service is not consistently available. During a power outage, getting any information is difficult.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Local nonprofits and organizations, like General Mobile Radio Service, have stepped in to expand communications networks that rely on radios that don’t rely on cell service or electricity, the report stated, but they haven’t been integrated into the county’s official emergency response as fully as they could be.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is not, as far as we know, a commitment to or an agreement among the [necessary] government entities … to execute county-wide coverage of radio service,” Hunter said. “Given that that’s the only way to actually reach people in the hills north and south of [the town of] Occidental or in the areas north and west of Westside Road, it seems like that’s something that should also be discussed and perhaps moved up on your priorities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To remedy this, the jury recommended that the Board of Supervisors direct Sonoma Public Infrastructure to develop a report detailing where more radio repeaters would be needed to expand General Mobile Radio Services countywide, and how much it would cost to install them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report also outlines shortcomings in the county’s anticipatory modeling and preparedness for natural disasters, and lack of shelter space for large-scale evacuations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the next 90 days, Sonoma County’s Board of Supervisors will review the report, and have to decide whether to accept or reject each of its six findings, and implement or dismiss the five recommendations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of the conclusions also require responses from the county sheriff’s office, Public Infrastructure Department and Department of Emergency Management.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More than 100 of the utility’s customers have \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1950931/map-potential-pge-power-outage-wednesday\">been without power\u003c/a> in inland parts of the counties since Thursday, when winds topped 40 mph at higher elevation. Most of the zones are expected to remain dark until Saturday afternoon, after gusty conditions peak midday Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Winds have increased significantly today in portions of the East Bay, Sacramento Valley and Salinas Valley, combined with lowering relative humidity, leading to elevated fire danger concerns,” PG&E said in a statement Thursday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11820077\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/05/Camp-Fire-Aftermath.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11820077\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/05/Camp-Fire-Aftermath.jpg\" alt=\"A man looks over his burned home, destroyed by the Camp Fire in Nov. 2018 in Paradise. The deadline for 70,000 survivors of numerous fires to vote on a multi-billion-dollar settlement deal with PG&E was May 15.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/05/Camp-Fire-Aftermath.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/05/Camp-Fire-Aftermath-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/05/Camp-Fire-Aftermath-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/05/Camp-Fire-Aftermath-1020x680.jpg 1020w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A man looks over his burned home, destroyed by the Camp Fire in Nov. 2018 in Paradise. The deadline for 70,000 survivors of numerous fires to vote on a multibillion-dollar settlement deal with PG&E was May 15. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The estimated two-day outages are affecting swaths of eastern and southern Livermore in the East Bay, areas surrounding Highway 152 in Santa Clara County, and Contra Costa County’s Los Vaqueros Reservoir and Black Diamond Mines Regional Park, near where a fast-moving brush fire threatened homes earlier this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The National Weather Service’s Bay Area office noted “\u003ca href=\"https://x.com/NWSBayArea/status/1936031139266711953\">elevated to near-critical fire weather concerns\u003c/a>” for Friday and Saturday in the interior East Bay, eastern Santa Clara Hills, and the Gabilan Range in San Benito and Monterey counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>UCLA climate scientist Daniel Swain said in a post on his “Weather West” blog that these inland areas — especially at elevations up to 4,000 feet — are drier than usual for mid-June, and are covered with acres of brittle, dehydrated grass that can easily spark, putting them at an increased risk of wind-driven fires this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Contra Costa County, the Somersville Fire adjacent to the outage area ignited Wednesday night and spread more than 350 acres.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Contra Costa County Battalion Chief Bob Atlas said the fire threatened about 150 homes before it was contained Thursday afternoon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What we’re battling is the significant winds,” he said. “As the season goes a little deeper, we’re definitely concerned about the humidity going down and the temperatures rising. That’s when it gets really dangerous.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smaller vegetation fires in Alameda and Santa Clara counties broke out Monday and Tuesday. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mark Schwartz, a conservation scientist and professor of environmental science and policy at UC Davis, said that while the Bay Area’s peak fire season doesn’t come until late August and September, fire-prone conditions can begin as soon as May.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This spring was drier and hotter than the average, according to PG&E, and Schwartz said that climate modeling shows this could be a trend in the coming years, when periods of both dry and hot conditions are expected to extend. That could mean more fire risk — and preventive outages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What we’ve observed over the last few decades and what we should be expecting in the future is for rains to shut down earlier in the spring and start later in the fall on average,” he said. “That means we have a higher overlap of dry, warm weather with those high wind events.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Maria Fernanda Bernal contributed to this report. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Surprisingly, the fierce Santa Ana winds that whipped the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/wildfires\">Palisades and Eaton fires\u003c/a> into deadly infernos in January \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12038756/an-historic-altadena-church-lost-to-the-eaton-fire-begins-the-long-journey-to-resurrection\">spared many precious things\u003c/a> you’d think would have been the first to burn: old family photos, kids’ art, postcards, yearbook pages and even old sheet music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Claire Schwartz, an Altadena resident, has made it her mission to help reunite those keepsakes with their owners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a recent morning, Schwartz stopped by a home in North Pasadena, where Nina Raj gingerly handed her a folded piece of paper. Schwartz carefully slipped it inside a plastic bag.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The treasure? A two-sided drawing that Raj found in her backyard after the fire. A crayon sketch of thick intersecting lines, a red and brown stick figure and a couple of abstract little squiggles in black. On one side, the word “Adonis” appeared. On the other: “Joseph.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Raj is one of many\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12033286/in-fire-scarred-altadena-these-residents-refused-to-leave\"> Altadena and Pasadena residents\u003c/a> who’ve contacted Schwartz about keepsakes they’ve found, after seeing Instagram posts on her \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/eatonfirefoundphotos/?hl=en\">Eaton Fire Found Photos page\u003c/a>, launched just days after the fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12042580\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 1170px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12042580\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1170\" height=\"1525\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg 1170w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-800x1043.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-1020x1329.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-160x209.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1170px) 100vw, 1170px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A social media post from Claire Schwartz’s Eaton Fire Found Photos project. \u003ccite>(Via Facebook)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“People … just message me and say ‘Hey, I found this,’ and we schedule a time for me to come by and pick it up,” Schwartz said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of what Schwartz has rescued are precious family photos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I clean [them], put [them] in a nice safe glassine envelope, acid free, so nothing affects the integrity of the photograph, then I post it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After several days, Schwartz was able to locate Adonis, the artist, who turned out to be a kindergartener. The owner of Side Pie, a Grateful Dead-themed pizzeria destroyed in the fire, saw Schwartz’s social media post and remembered that his daughter went to school with a kid named Adonis. It was a match.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwartz was able to track down both Adonis and Joseph, the recipient of Adonis’s drawing. Great news, offset with some bad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Adonis, the artist, his family home burned (down). Joseph’s [family’s] home is still there. But they’re in the process of remediation, so everyone’s displaced,” Schwartz said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The communication underscored the precarious living situations many Altadena residents now find themselves in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m in touch with both moms. They want to get together, they want the artwork back, but they’re so far away it’s just really hard to find a time to meet,” Schwartz said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwartz and her partner live in South Altadena, not far from the Pasadena border. Their home survived, but many others on their block did not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Walk north for a few minutes, and you’ll find entire square blocks with only chimneys, piles of rubble and crews clearing burned-out lots.[aside postID=news_12038756 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/METTE.LAMPCOV.CHURCH.BELL-22-KQED-1020x680.jpg']But somehow, through all this, scores of old snapshots and other fragile keepsakes, like the drawing found by Raj, did not burn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwartz’s social media posts, which seek the owners of lost photos, sometimes amplify other, more old-school ways of searching.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like a flyer Matthew Weiss stapled to a telephone pole in the middle of the fire zone. It showed a series of five family photos found in a parking lot of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12038756/an-historic-altadena-church-lost-to-the-eaton-fire-begins-the-long-journey-to-resurrection\">Saint Mark’s Episcopal Church, which was also destroyed in the fires. The flier also included \u003c/a>a brief message with a local phone number: “Found after Eaton Fire, looking for owner, please call.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Weiss is a photojournalist from San Diego who grew up in Altadena. His parents were out of town when the Eaton Fire broke out, so he raced up north to check on their place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Once he secured the house, Weiss hiked up into the burn zone on foot with his cameras and photographed the smoldering ruins of his former grade school, Saint Mark’s Elementary. He helped some strangers douse spot fires on the campus and later returned to the site with his fiancée.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We just started walking around the perimeter of the school, and she saw a photo [on the ground],” Weiss said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12042585\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12042585\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1500\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Some of the lost photos, may of them damaged, that strangers were able to return to Houri Marganian via the Eaton Fire Found Photos project. \u003ccite>(Steven Cuevas for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“That’s brilliant,” he remembered telling her. “We should look for more stuff! Let’s see what we can find, maybe we can get them back to the owners.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The couple found even more personal photos along with a collage of Saint Mark’s students, the church’s gas bill and scorched pages from \u003cem>Aesop’s Fables\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With Schwartz’s help, they figured out that the photos belonged to a family who lost them in the mad scramble to evacuate. Schwartz then returned the old photographs to the family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“With each photo I find, I just keep thinking about the person who it belongs to, and what they must be experiencing, what they must be feeling right now,” Schwartz said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Houri Marganian and her family were among the first to witness the explosive ferocity of the Eaton Fire. They live in a secluded foothill neighborhood, only about a mile east of where the fire ignited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the sun setting and the winds howling on Jan. 7, they raced out of their neighborhood believing they’d never see their home again. They hastily stuffed Marganian’s collection of thousands of family photos, neatly organized in about a dozen boxes, into the trunk of her husband’s car.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12042584\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN_S-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-OF-HERSELF-AS-A-CHILD-IN-LEBANON-WHERE-SHE-GREW-UP-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12042584\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN_S-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-OF-HERSELF-AS-A-CHILD-IN-LEBANON-WHERE-SHE-GREW-UP-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1500\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN_S-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-OF-HERSELF-AS-A-CHILD-IN-LEBANON-WHERE-SHE-GREW-UP-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN_S-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-OF-HERSELF-AS-A-CHILD-IN-LEBANON-WHERE-SHE-GREW-UP-KQED-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN_S-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-OF-HERSELF-AS-A-CHILD-IN-LEBANON-WHERE-SHE-GREW-UP-KQED-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN_S-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-OF-HERSELF-AS-A-CHILD-IN-LEBANON-WHERE-SHE-GREW-UP-KQED-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN_S-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-OF-HERSELF-AS-A-CHILD-IN-LEBANON-WHERE-SHE-GREW-UP-KQED-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN_S-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-OF-HERSELF-AS-A-CHILD-IN-LEBANON-WHERE-SHE-GREW-UP-KQED-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Houri Marganian holds a photograph of herself as a child in Lebanon, where she grew up. \u003ccite>(Steven Cuevas for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“He left the neighborhood, [then] the trunk popped open,” Marganian said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The boxes tumbled out, and the ferocious winds did the rest, scattering decades of non-digitized photos in all directions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was trying to collect them with my 12-year-old as the wind was blowing, suffocating us with the smoke, and we could see the embers coming down,” Marganian said. “Everything was happening so fast because of the wind.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They gathered just a fraction of the photos before they had to keep moving.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At first, Marganian considered posting something online about the lost pictures. But after seeing the full extent of the devastation in Altadena and receiving confirmation that her own home survived, the photos seemed less important.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, she began getting some very surprising text messages.[aside postID=news_12033286 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250312_Stay-Behinds_JB_00010-1020x680.jpg']“Someone has your pictures up on their social media,“ Marganian said. “Random pictures like honeymoon pictures, pregnancy pictures, dating pictures.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Through Schwartz, about a half dozen people have returned photos to the Marganian family so far. Some of the prints she got back, including images of her childhood in Lebanon, were damaged by smoke, soot and car tires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even though she’s only gotten back about 200 of the thousands of photos she lost that night, Marganian is grateful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I met some great people through this whole experience, and I’m just glad our house is here,” Marganian said. “My heart goes out to the ones that weren’t as fortunate.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwartz’s project isn’t the first to create art or photography out of the devastation of wildfire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12042582\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-DAMAGED-IN-THE-EATON-FIRE-OF-HERSELF-AND-A-FRIEND-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12042582\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-DAMAGED-IN-THE-EATON-FIRE-OF-HERSELF-AND-A-FRIEND-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1500\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-DAMAGED-IN-THE-EATON-FIRE-OF-HERSELF-AND-A-FRIEND-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-DAMAGED-IN-THE-EATON-FIRE-OF-HERSELF-AND-A-FRIEND-KQED-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-DAMAGED-IN-THE-EATON-FIRE-OF-HERSELF-AND-A-FRIEND-KQED-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-DAMAGED-IN-THE-EATON-FIRE-OF-HERSELF-AND-A-FRIEND-KQED-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-DAMAGED-IN-THE-EATON-FIRE-OF-HERSELF-AND-A-FRIEND-KQED-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/HOURI-MARGANIAN-HOLDS-A-PHOTOGRAPH-DAMAGED-IN-THE-EATON-FIRE-OF-HERSELF-AND-A-FRIEND-KQED-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Houri Marganian holds a photograph, damaged in the Eaton Fire, of herself and a friend. \u003ccite>(Steven Cuevas for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Norma Quintana, a photographer based in Napa, said the wind helped save treasured objects during the\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11741498/a-third-of-homes-lost-in-2017-tubbs-fire-now-under-construction\"> 2017 Tubbs Fire\u003c/a>, which destroyed her family’s house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The wind was a gift,” Quintana said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To cope with the grief and trauma, Quintana spent weeks sifting through the ashes of her property and painstakingly photographing things that survived, or barely survived. The work evolved into an exhibit of photographs and blackened keepsakes called\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13813058/a-photographer-turns-the-lens-on-her-own-homes-charred-remains\"> Forage from Fire\u003c/a>, shown in museums across the U.S. and Mexico.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She sees a kind of magic in the Eaton Fire Found Photos project.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_12034277 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250328_Zorthian-Ranch_SK_17-1020x680.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It doesn’t matter what shape [a photo or letter is] in,” Quintana said. “What’s important is that it holds an emotional connection. The fire may affect the physical part of that object, but it doesn’t take away the memory.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those fleeting moments, captured on film in a split second, can remind us of a childhood experience, a lost love or a beloved relative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The photo really is the most tangible connection,” Schwartz said. “It’s the closest we can get to kind of going back in time and revisiting a precious moment in our life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwartz feels like she’s doing something productive for her neighbors, who may be feeling powerless or overwhelmed in the fire’s aftermath.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not putting a roof over anybody’s head, but it maybe is bringing back a little bit of normalcy or comfort to somebody who might really need it,” she said. “That’s been helpful, feeling like I can help somebody else right now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Surprisingly, the fierce Santa Ana winds that whipped the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/wildfires\">Palisades and Eaton fires\u003c/a> into deadly infernos in January \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12038756/an-historic-altadena-church-lost-to-the-eaton-fire-begins-the-long-journey-to-resurrection\">spared many precious things\u003c/a> you’d think would have been the first to burn: old family photos, kids’ art, postcards, yearbook pages and even old sheet music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Claire Schwartz, an Altadena resident, has made it her mission to help reunite those keepsakes with their owners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a recent morning, Schwartz stopped by a home in North Pasadena, where Nina Raj gingerly handed her a folded piece of paper. Schwartz carefully slipped it inside a plastic bag.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The treasure? A two-sided drawing that Raj found in her backyard after the fire. A crayon sketch of thick intersecting lines, a red and brown stick figure and a couple of abstract little squiggles in black. On one side, the word “Adonis” appeared. On the other: “Joseph.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Raj is one of many\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12033286/in-fire-scarred-altadena-these-residents-refused-to-leave\"> Altadena and Pasadena residents\u003c/a> who’ve contacted Schwartz about keepsakes they’ve found, after seeing Instagram posts on her \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/eatonfirefoundphotos/?hl=en\">Eaton Fire Found Photos page\u003c/a>, launched just days after the fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12042580\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 1170px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12042580\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1170\" height=\"1525\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg 1170w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-800x1043.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-1020x1329.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/A-SOCIAL-MEDIA-POST-FROM-CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ_S-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-160x209.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1170px) 100vw, 1170px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A social media post from Claire Schwartz’s Eaton Fire Found Photos project. \u003ccite>(Via Facebook)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“People … just message me and say ‘Hey, I found this,’ and we schedule a time for me to come by and pick it up,” Schwartz said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of what Schwartz has rescued are precious family photos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I clean [them], put [them] in a nice safe glassine envelope, acid free, so nothing affects the integrity of the photograph, then I post it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After several days, Schwartz was able to locate Adonis, the artist, who turned out to be a kindergartener. The owner of Side Pie, a Grateful Dead-themed pizzeria destroyed in the fire, saw Schwartz’s social media post and remembered that his daughter went to school with a kid named Adonis. It was a match.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwartz was able to track down both Adonis and Joseph, the recipient of Adonis’s drawing. Great news, offset with some bad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Adonis, the artist, his family home burned (down). Joseph’s [family’s] home is still there. But they’re in the process of remediation, so everyone’s displaced,” Schwartz said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The communication underscored the precarious living situations many Altadena residents now find themselves in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m in touch with both moms. They want to get together, they want the artwork back, but they’re so far away it’s just really hard to find a time to meet,” Schwartz said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwartz and her partner live in South Altadena, not far from the Pasadena border. Their home survived, but many others on their block did not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Walk north for a few minutes, and you’ll find entire square blocks with only chimneys, piles of rubble and crews clearing burned-out lots.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>But somehow, through all this, scores of old snapshots and other fragile keepsakes, like the drawing found by Raj, did not burn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwartz’s social media posts, which seek the owners of lost photos, sometimes amplify other, more old-school ways of searching.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like a flyer Matthew Weiss stapled to a telephone pole in the middle of the fire zone. It showed a series of five family photos found in a parking lot of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12038756/an-historic-altadena-church-lost-to-the-eaton-fire-begins-the-long-journey-to-resurrection\">Saint Mark’s Episcopal Church, which was also destroyed in the fires. The flier also included \u003c/a>a brief message with a local phone number: “Found after Eaton Fire, looking for owner, please call.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Weiss is a photojournalist from San Diego who grew up in Altadena. His parents were out of town when the Eaton Fire broke out, so he raced up north to check on their place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Once he secured the house, Weiss hiked up into the burn zone on foot with his cameras and photographed the smoldering ruins of his former grade school, Saint Mark’s Elementary. He helped some strangers douse spot fires on the campus and later returned to the site with his fiancée.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We just started walking around the perimeter of the school, and she saw a photo [on the ground],” Weiss said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12042585\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12042585\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1500\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/SOME-OF-THE-LOST-PHOTOS-MAY-OF-THEM-DAMAGED-THAT-STRANGERS-WERE-ABLE-TO-RETURN-TO-HOURI-MARGANIAN-VIA-THE-EATON-FIRE-FOUND-PHOTOS-PROJECT-KQED-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Some of the lost photos, may of them damaged, that strangers were able to return to Houri Marganian via the Eaton Fire Found Photos project. \u003ccite>(Steven Cuevas for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“That’s brilliant,” he remembered telling her. “We should look for more stuff! Let’s see what we can find, maybe we can get them back to the owners.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The couple found even more personal photos along with a collage of Saint Mark’s students, the church’s gas bill and scorched pages from \u003cem>Aesop’s Fables\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With Schwartz’s help, they figured out that the photos belonged to a family who lost them in the mad scramble to evacuate. Schwartz then returned the old photographs to the family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“With each photo I find, I just keep thinking about the person who it belongs to, and what they must be experiencing, what they must be feeling right now,” Schwartz said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Houri Marganian and her family were among the first to witness the explosive ferocity of the Eaton Fire. They live in a secluded foothill neighborhood, only about a mile east of where the fire ignited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the sun setting and the winds howling on Jan. 7, they raced out of their neighborhood believing they’d never see their home again. 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"content": "\u003cp>In this edition of The Bay’s monthly news roundup, we unpack the razor-thin \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12037469/after-recount-tordillos-advances-to-runoff-election-for-san-jose-council-seat\">election results in San José’s District 3\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12036939/san-francisco-chinatown-businesses-survival-mode-trade-war\">the impact of President Donald Trump’s tariffs in San Francisco’s Chinatown\u003c/a>. Plus, we learn more about how roughly 900 \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12035866/berkeley-considers-controversial-plan-require-vegetation-removal-near-homes-fire-zones\">Berkeley homeowners will need to clear vegetation in order to protect their houses against wildfire damage\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC6806377143&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ci>Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. San Francisco Northern California Local.\u003c/i>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:06] I’m Ericka Cruz Guevara, and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. And welcome to our April news roundup, where we talk about some of the other stories that we, the Bay team, have been following this month. I’m joined by our senior editor, Alan Montecillo. and producer, Jessica Kariisa. I was just saying earlier in the office, I can’t believe we’re already approaching May, but I’ve just been looking back also at some of the things that we’ve been covering this month, quite the range. We’ve covered the potential closure of the Valero refinery in Benicia, Barbara Lee’s mayoral win in Oakland, and we also celebrated Youth Takeover week here at KQED. It’s this KQED-wide initiative to basically uplift the voices of young people around the Bay Area. And we did this really fun episode with four young people from across the Bay area. Jessica, I wonder if you can talk a little bit more about that one. It was a really fun one that we got to produce with Bay Curious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:01:17] Yeah, Youth Takeover was a super fun project that we did with high school students who are part of the Youth Advisory Board at KQED. And basically what happened was they sent us some audio diaries over the past few months, and we listened to them and we cut them down into an episode basically about what it’s like to be a high schooler in the Bay Area. We had two juniors and two seniors who live all across the Bay Area, sharing their stories about everything from dreams of designing a web comic to picking colleges, to what it’s gonna mean to not have their parents around or their teachers around when they go off to school. It’s just crazy to see some of the same concerns, even though so much has changed in the over decade that I’ve been in high school, but I could definitely relate to a lot of the things that they were going through.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:02:16] I think one thing I appreciated about this process was how open-ended it was compared to the ways that high school students, college students, younger people are often in the news, or even in our stories, you know, usually they are talked about or quoted directly in reference to some news story, maybe it’s about education policy, maybe its about, you know student protests. But I think that one thing that was both really cool and honestly a big contrast from how we usually do things is that this played out over a long period of time. And we didn’t say, hey, we really want to hear your opinion on this thing that is happening. It really was about just tell us what’s going on in your life. So I mean, it was really impressed with the four students, Abby, Oumou, Olivia, and Riya. I’m glad that we made the time to do it, and we’ll do it again. Can I ask a question? As you listened back to the episode, which, I guess, teenage anxiety or emotion did you resonate with the most?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:03:17] Definitely Oumou’s angst and the way that she uses music to process her feelings was very, very relatable to me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:03:32] I think for me, there’s a moment where Abby talks about having some FOMO around missing school events because of sports and those particular commitments in her life and I definitely felt that. It just sort of took me back to like school dances and things that other kids were doing that I wasn’t able to attend sometimes and just like the angst and just the worry of like, no, I’m gonna regress socially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:01] Still relatable, unfortunately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:04] Maybe even more so relatable now. Oh gosh. What about you, Alan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:09] If I had to pick one, I mean, it was present for everybody, but particularly for Riya, is just the anxiety around college admissions. I remember being so excited, so ready to get out of high school and experience college. And it felt like that, at that point, that was the most important decision I’d ever made in my entire life. And in some respects, you could say that it was, but knowing intellectually that like, it’s probably bad that I’m comparing myself to my peers and where I get in is not a measure of how smart I am, how valuable I am but you almost can’t help it and so just that anxiety and around the waiting, waiting too, what’s challenging then is still challenging now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:48] Well, if you haven’t listened to this episode already, make sure to go back and listen to it. It’s a really fun listen. When we come back, we’ll dig into some of the other stories from around the Bay Area that we have been watching this month. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:05:15] And welcome back to The Bay’s Monthly News Roundup, where we discuss some of the other stories that we have been following this month. Jessica, let’s have you kick us off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:05:24] So for listeners of The Bay, we have talked a few times about the special election in San Jose D3, which encompasses downtown and Japantown and is actually where I live. So just a quick little recap. The former council member for D3 Omar Torres resigned after he was charged with sexual abuse and an interim council member was appointed. And there was a special election held earlier this month, and we just got the results. You know, this city council race for District 3 was really important, and we did an episode on this, actually, with politics reporter, Guy Marzorati, because it really makes a difference as to whether or not Mayor Matt Mahan is able to really pushed through a lot of things on his agenda faster, specifically around permanently moving funds towards short-term interim housing, as opposed to permanent affordable housing, and also around homelessness. You know, there have been some controversial proposals around arresting people who refuse shelter three times within 18 months. And so this race and who ends up in this seat is a really big deal as to how far Mayor Mahan can go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:06:46] Gabby Chavez Lopez, the executive director of the Latina Coalition of Silicon Valley, ended up getting about 30% of the vote. That was not enough to declare an outright victory, and so it’s going to be a runoff. But what was really interesting was second place was up for grabs because it was really, really close between Anthony Tordillos, who is the head of San Jose’s planning commission and also works at YouTube. Matthew Quevedo, who is Matt Mahan’s deputy chief of staff. Earlier this week, Santa Clara County election officials have officially said that Anthony Tordillos got second place with a six vote lead over Matthew Quevedo. And so he is gonna be going into the runoff with Gabby Chavez Lopez on June 24th.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:36] What does it mean that Tordillos has made it to the runoff and not Matthew Quevedo?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:07:43] So, Matthew Quevedo being Mayhan’s deputy chief of staff, if he ended up in this seat, it was expected to be validation of the mayor’s agenda. You know, Quevedo talked about being the sixth vote on the council to help push Mayhan’s plan specifically around short-term interim housing and shifting funds from permanent affordable housing to short- term interim housing. But with Tordillos and Chavez-Lopez advancing, they’re more on the progressive side. They’ve also pushed more for permanent affordable housing. So it’s not a total rejection of Mahan, but it does signal that it might be a bit harder for him moving forward to streamline his agenda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:08:30] I’m still not over the six vote difference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:08:33] I know, it’s crazy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:08:36] Vote people, it matters. So this is going to a runoff. Jessica, what happens next?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:08:43] So starting end of May, ballots are gonna be sent out for the runoff, which is officially on June 24th between Chavez-Lopez and Tordillos. We’ll see who comes out on top. Is Tordillos going to collect the more conservative votes that were distributed between Quevedo and the rest of the people who were running? Or will something else happen? It’s unclear, but we’ll have to wait and see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:13] Jessica, thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:14] Thank you so much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:22] And next, we’re going to talk about the story that I’ve been following this month. I’ve be thinking a lot about the impact of Trump’s tariffs on certain communities here in the Bay Area. I’ve thinking about Little Saigon in San Jose and Chinatown in San Francisco, where right now many businesses have sort of entered survival mode. Our colleague Azul Dahlstrom-Eckman has been talking with business owners in San Francisco Chinatown specifically, who are really, really struggling right now. They’re dealing with declining sales and really an uncertain future as the U.S.-China trade war drags on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:10:08] Yeah, I mean, tariffs have dominated the news cycle, and it’s definitely made me wonder about local businesses here as well. Do you know, like, what exactly business owners are experiencing at their shops? Like, have prices already gone up? Like, what’s going on?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:10:24] Yeah, our colleague Azul talked with business owners in Chinatown, including the owner of Mei’s Groceries on Stockton Street, Mei Zhu. She’s been the owner there for the past 11 years. And 90% of her goods at the store are imported. We’re talking about like dry noodles, candies, cookies. And now these items are subject to tariffs as high as 245%, she told Azul, which has meant that she’s had to raise her prices for some of her items by 50%. Some items cost 145% more, so she just stopped stocking them entirely. And for the remaining stock, she says that higher prices are really just driving customers away. I mean, if you can imagine, we’ve been talking about the high cost of groceries. For a long time now, this as sort of an added bonus has really affected her business. She told Azul that sales are down 30%. And I mean, when Azul talked with other business owners, in Chinatown that’s really kind of reflected across the board, a lot of these businesses are just really having a hard time right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:11:45] It’s hard for me not to think about specifically what San Francisco’s Chinatown has been through in the last five years or so, particularly with COVID, you know, anti-Asian hate. This is a neighborhood that’s just been through a lot, even before the tariffs. 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And customers who Azul also talked with say that they’re not really encouraged to shop at these stores with these prices. So the end result is kind of obvious, but there’s sort of this feeling of like wanting to remain hopeful and that the community’s already been through so much and we can get to go through this again, but really it needs our help right now. Well, that is it for my story and I want to pivot to our last story here from senior editor Alan Montecillo. What have you been following this month?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:13:40] Well, this story takes place in Berkeley, specifically around the Berkeley Hills. There’s a story on KQED’s website that was reported by Matthew Green and Samantha Kennedy. Earlier this month, the city approved rules that would require about 900 homes around Tilden Park to essentially remove vegetation and flammable materials around their homes to reduce fire risk. 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The city said that they have about a million dollar grant from CAL FIRE, and they’re trying to get other funds from the state, like Prop 4, which last November, it has to do with climate funds. So the city is saying that there will be resources, but obviously a lot of the responsibility and time will be on the homeowners to actually clear out all this vegetation. I think anyone who’s been in the Berkeley Hills knows that a lot these homes are very beautiful and Berkeley residents love their vegetation and foliage and growing things, etc. So it is going to be some amount of work. But the folks who were really pushing this, I mean this proposal was drafted by the department. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:01:17] Yeah, Youth Takeover was a super fun project that we did with high school students who are part of the Youth Advisory Board at KQED. And basically what happened was they sent us some audio diaries over the past few months, and we listened to them and we cut them down into an episode basically about what it’s like to be a high schooler in the Bay Area. We had two juniors and two seniors who live all across the Bay Area, sharing their stories about everything from dreams of designing a web comic to picking colleges, to what it’s gonna mean to not have their parents around or their teachers around when they go off to school. 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So I mean, it was really impressed with the four students, Abby, Oumou, Olivia, and Riya. I’m glad that we made the time to do it, and we’ll do it again. Can I ask a question? As you listened back to the episode, which, I guess, teenage anxiety or emotion did you resonate with the most?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:03:17] Definitely Oumou’s angst and the way that she uses music to process her feelings was very, very relatable to me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:03:32] I think for me, there’s a moment where Abby talks about having some FOMO around missing school events because of sports and those particular commitments in her life and I definitely felt that. It just sort of took me back to like school dances and things that other kids were doing that I wasn’t able to attend sometimes and just like the angst and just the worry of like, no, I’m gonna regress socially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:01] Still relatable, unfortunately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:04] Maybe even more so relatable now. Oh gosh. What about you, Alan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:09] If I had to pick one, I mean, it was present for everybody, but particularly for Riya, is just the anxiety around college admissions. I remember being so excited, so ready to get out of high school and experience college. And it felt like that, at that point, that was the most important decision I’d ever made in my entire life. And in some respects, you could say that it was, but knowing intellectually that like, it’s probably bad that I’m comparing myself to my peers and where I get in is not a measure of how smart I am, how valuable I am but you almost can’t help it and so just that anxiety and around the waiting, waiting too, what’s challenging then is still challenging now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:48] Well, if you haven’t listened to this episode already, make sure to go back and listen to it. It’s a really fun listen. When we come back, we’ll dig into some of the other stories from around the Bay Area that we have been watching this month. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:05:15] And welcome back to The Bay’s Monthly News Roundup, where we discuss some of the other stories that we have been following this month. Jessica, let’s have you kick us off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:05:24] So for listeners of The Bay, we have talked a few times about the special election in San Jose D3, which encompasses downtown and Japantown and is actually where I live. So just a quick little recap. The former council member for D3 Omar Torres resigned after he was charged with sexual abuse and an interim council member was appointed. And there was a special election held earlier this month, and we just got the results. You know, this city council race for District 3 was really important, and we did an episode on this, actually, with politics reporter, Guy Marzorati, because it really makes a difference as to whether or not Mayor Matt Mahan is able to really pushed through a lot of things on his agenda faster, specifically around permanently moving funds towards short-term interim housing, as opposed to permanent affordable housing, and also around homelessness. You know, there have been some controversial proposals around arresting people who refuse shelter three times within 18 months. And so this race and who ends up in this seat is a really big deal as to how far Mayor Mahan can go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:06:46] Gabby Chavez Lopez, the executive director of the Latina Coalition of Silicon Valley, ended up getting about 30% of the vote. That was not enough to declare an outright victory, and so it’s going to be a runoff. But what was really interesting was second place was up for grabs because it was really, really close between Anthony Tordillos, who is the head of San Jose’s planning commission and also works at YouTube. Matthew Quevedo, who is Matt Mahan’s deputy chief of staff. Earlier this week, Santa Clara County election officials have officially said that Anthony Tordillos got second place with a six vote lead over Matthew Quevedo. 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It’s unclear, but we’ll have to wait and see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:13] Jessica, thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:14] Thank you so much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:22] And next, we’re going to talk about the story that I’ve been following this month. I’ve be thinking a lot about the impact of Trump’s tariffs on certain communities here in the Bay Area. I’ve thinking about Little Saigon in San Jose and Chinatown in San Francisco, where right now many businesses have sort of entered survival mode. Our colleague Azul Dahlstrom-Eckman has been talking with business owners in San Francisco Chinatown specifically, who are really, really struggling right now. 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Some items cost 145% more, so she just stopped stocking them entirely. And for the remaining stock, she says that higher prices are really just driving customers away. I mean, if you can imagine, we’ve been talking about the high cost of groceries. For a long time now, this as sort of an added bonus has really affected her business. She told Azul that sales are down 30%. And I mean, when Azul talked with other business owners, in Chinatown that’s really kind of reflected across the board, a lot of these businesses are just really having a hard time right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:11:45] It’s hard for me not to think about specifically what San Francisco’s Chinatown has been through in the last five years or so, particularly with COVID, you know, anti-Asian hate. This is a neighborhood that’s just been through a lot, even before the tariffs. 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And customers who Azul also talked with say that they’re not really encouraged to shop at these stores with these prices. So the end result is kind of obvious, but there’s sort of this feeling of like wanting to remain hopeful and that the community’s already been through so much and we can get to go through this again, but really it needs our help right now. Well, that is it for my story and I want to pivot to our last story here from senior editor Alan Montecillo. What have you been following this month?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:13:40] Well, this story takes place in Berkeley, specifically around the Berkeley Hills. There’s a story on KQED’s website that was reported by Matthew Green and Samantha Kennedy. Earlier this month, the city approved rules that would require about 900 homes around Tilden Park to essentially remove vegetation and flammable materials around their homes to reduce fire risk. 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