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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The governor’s Workforce Development Board, devoted to improving the state’s labor pool, is providing a $6.9 million grant to boost community-based organizations and expand so-called re-entry services for the formerly incarcerated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About $2 million of that will go directly to formerly incarcerated people through cash payments totaling about $2,400 each. Schaeffer’s group said the money will be paid incrementally upon reaching milestones like participating in employment interview preparation meetings with a jobs coach, making progress toward earning an industry credential or certificate; and creating a budget and opening a bank account.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schaeffer said the new program is a “game changer” and the first of its kind in the nation, one he hopes other states will copy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said his group distributes money and coordinates services with local groups that provide career training and mental health counseling, among other resources. The program got a sort of test run at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic when the Center for Employment Opportunities was tasked with distributing direct payments to about 10,000 formerly incarcerated people struggling financially.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schaeffer said that to promote equitable access to the funds, the center recommends its partners impose limited eligibility criteria for receiving payments. And there are no rules for how the money can be spent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates say people returning from incarceration often struggle to find places to live and work as they try to reintegrate back into their communities. Around 60% of formerly incarcerated individuals remain unemployed within the first year of being home, the center estimates.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003cem>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scott and Marisa discuss Governor Gavin Newsom’s plan to reform San Quentin State Prison \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">— and Scott shares what inmates are saying about it\u003c/span>. Then, Los Angeles Times reporter Mackenzie Mays joins to discuss school board fights in Southern California that have caught the attention of Newsom and other state officials.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Hey, everybody. From KQED Public Radio, it’s Political Breakdown. I’m Scott Shafer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And I’m Marisa Lagos on today’s show: schools and prisons. L.A. Times reporter Mackenzie Mays joins us to talk about how conservative members of school boards and parts of California are challenging state mandates and curriculum on issues like LGBTQ history and sex education. Even booting out the state school superintendent from a Southern California school board meeting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. And Marisa, I want to start, I think with the prison part of that Governor Newsom’s plan to transform San Quentin Prison into what he likes to call the California model. It’s rehabilitation for prisoners who will eventually be released, which is, you know, the vast majority of inmates. They will be paroled at some point. And I took a tour of the prison yesterday to learn more about the governor’s plan, which is really inspired by how Norway and other Scandinavian countries manage crime and punishment, less emphasis on punishments, more attention to preparing prisoners for life on the outside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah. And I mean, since he rolled that out, Scott, there’s been some criticism about the lack of details in the plan. But at this tour, you were with the warden and Sacramento mayor, Darrell Steinberg, who’s actually advising the governor on all of this. What did you hear from them? What did you see?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, well, obviously, the both the warden and Steinberg are embracing this in a big way. And, you know, let’s face it, San Quentin has already been doing they’re really an outlier in the corrections system. They’ve been doing a lot of programing there for many, many years. But this is really an expansion of that. And yeah, you’re right, there is some criticism on the lack of details. But, you know, Steinberg says really what we’re talking about here is pretty basic, a fundamental change in the way that personnel, starting with correctional officers, are trained and how they are recruited and retained. And, you know, that is that is a big issue, Marisa. You know, obviously, the the corrections officers don’t all think about sitting down and having coffee with prisoners, which is exactly what they’re envisioning. You know, they’re talking about having more interaction, shaking hands, playing pickleball with the with these with these men, which is kind of what they do in Norway and some of these Scandinavian countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I mean, honestly, like you and I have both covered a lot of prisons and criminal justice over the years. We’ve covered a lot of the reforms that have happened on the outside of prisons. And I actually kind of think we’ll get into the, you know, money they need to spend on infrastructure and all of that and programs. But to me, the culture change here seems like really the nub of this. And probably the most challenging part. I mean, we’ve seen this on the outside with the way a lot of police departments have really pushed back against reforms that voters have passed and kind of refused to enact them in some ways. Right. In terms of like when we talk about Prop 47 and this feeling of like, oh, well, you know, it’s a misdemeanor, I don’t even want to arrest someone. And I’ve been doing a lot of reporting, you know, Scott, around juvenile justice and the problems that plagued those state facilities. You know, a lot of those officers are now being hired by this, the adult system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Do you think that’s a good thing? I mean, based on the way they have, you know, been in their jobs, is that are they going to be down with this new approach?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I mean, you would think it would actually make sense because our juvenile system has been, at least on paper, more based towards rehabilitation than punishment. But the story that we’ve been hearing in recent months about the drug use, the drug furnishing by officers, you know, a lot of these problems, I think, is it it just speaks to the challenges there. And so that’s something I’ll be watching. But as we noted, there’s also been criticisms about sort of the like mechanics of doing this. What have you heard from lawmakers?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Of course, the governor’s been pushing this and he’s got a pretty tight timeline. And he got the legislature to approve $360 million. And this is the first phase of what they’re going to do. They’re going to knock down an old furniture factory that inmates used to work in at San Quentin, replace it with what they’re describing as a campus kind of a situation for more classrooms. The culture change. It applies not only to the corrections officers but also to the the men who are they’re incarcerated. And I talked to one of those guys, Juan Haines, who’s been incarcerated for 27 years. He’s actually one of the editors for the San Quentin News, which is an award winning newspaper that I went into the newsroom, talked with him and some of the other guys. And, you know, here’s you know, I asked him to put on his journalist’s hat and, you know, what is he skeptical about when he hears this plan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Juan Haines:\u003c/strong> I’m skeptical about the people that are actually going to be pushing the buttons. I’m skeptical about California’s overcrowded prisons and I’m skeptical over buy in from both sides. I’ve talked to a lot of correctional officers that really love this idea. And then there’s some that don’t.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, for sure. And, you know, one of the things that Steinberg talked about is that corrections often this is a hard job for corrections officers, you know, and the idea of transforming the job into not only social work, but more and more human, more humane is something that he thinks that the guards, the peace officers there will. The corrections officers will embrace because they’ll feel better about what they do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I mean, that was an argument Jerry Brown made in changing some of the way that we program in prisons, giving more opportunities for rehabilitation. I mean, but also interestingly, one, Haynes mentioned both sides, and I think this is also going to require buy in from prisoners, folks who, you know, are like it takes all sides. And I think if you don’t have that and I think that’ll require, again, the trust building that trust with folks. But beyond all this, Scott, I mean, we got to talk about the politics, this political breakdown. You know, the governor seems to maybe have his eyes on higher office outside of California, as you may have heard on this show and elsewhere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> He has sub-zero interest in that, come on Marisa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Subzero in the White House. But truthfully, I mean, if this were successful, it would certainly be something you could run on on a national platform. What do you think he’s looking at? Like, what are the politics here, both immediate but more long term for the governor?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, he has set this timeline of 2025. And it was you know, we were asking Steinberg like, okay, what does that mean? January 20, 25, December 2025, You know, it was you know, Steinberg knows that this is really squishy. He said August 4th, you know, and just pulling a number. And I said, oh, is the ribbon cutting going to be in Iowa? You know, because clearly this is the kind of big idea that Newsom loves to talk about and run on. I mean, criminal justice and crime are things that, you know, Democrats at the moment are a little bit on their their back heels on their a little bit on the defensive. And I think he sees this as the kind of thing that will appeal to that maybe broad middle of voters who want to see rules. They want to see public safety and sell this as good for public safety, because as these folks get out of prison and go into the community, if they’re not prepared to take jobs, what are they going to do? They’re going to turn to crime again because they won’t have many alternatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. And I mean, we like I said, we’ve done a lot of work to try, you know, to make that reentry smoother. But I think anything you do on the front end when folks are behind bars is going to help greatly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, and I would say the front end is really high school. Well, you know, yeah, you know, there are there are legislators, of course, like Reggie Jones Sawyer, who wants to take some of these elusive savings from closing prisons and plow it into the front end, the real front end, which is before they get in trouble. But, you know, job programs, violence prevention, that kind of thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah and I think we should say I mean, I do think there’s been a lot of concern, both driven by both politics and just like what people are actually experiencing around crime. But if you look at overall crime rates compared to 30 years ago, they are still so low. We’ve seen the state shutter already, a couple of prisons more in the pipeline to shut down. They have ended a lot of contracts with private prison operators. And so I think, all told, you know, this is part of a trend we’ve seen in California. You know, I think there’s an open question as to whether reimagining a 150 year old prison is the best way. Should we just be starting from scratch?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, exactly. And if you look at death row, those there’s still 550 or so condemned inmates there. They’re gradually moving them out to other maximum security prisons. And you know what? They’re not going to just knock that down. I mean, maybe that would be the best thing to do. But they’re not. They’re going to make some revisions to it. But certainly housing and space in general is an opportunity, but also a huge challenge, not just at San Quentin, but, you know, across the system. And so there are those who say, well, geez, maybe there’s something better to to use this money in different ways, spread it out across different institutions. You know, just about 5% of all the people who are incarcerated in California are at San Quentin. And I think what we’re going to see is sort of a quote unquote, cream of the crop come to San Quentin, those who really are motivated to change, to learn skills and so on. And those who aren’t are going to go to some of these other prisons that don’t have these programs, or at least not in the numbers that they’ve had them at Quentin for so long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah. All right. Well, we will keep watching that. I know you will and I will as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, absolutely. All right. We’re going to take a short break. And when we return, we’re going to be joined by L.A. Times reporter Mackenzie Mays. She’s been covering the politics around LGBTQ issues and other cultural issues that are roiling local school districts in California. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Welcome back to Political Breakdown. I’m Scott Shafer here with Marisa Lagos. And we’re going to turn to the fights over curriculum and how to treat students who identify as transgender that have roiled local school districts and captured the attention of state officials like Governor Gavin Newsom and state Superintendent Tony Thurmond. Los Angeles Times, state government and politics reporter Mackenzie Mays has been covering these dustups and she joins us now from Sacramento. Hey, Mackenzie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Hey, how are you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Doing well. So, you know, we’ve been hearing about these kinds of issues really for almost years, but it’s mostly been in red states like Florida and Texas, you know, limiting what teachers can say, that kind of thing. Parental rights fights. It seems like this is relatively new to California. Is that is that your take?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> I would say that it feels new in California because it’s one of the only pathways to sort of power over policy that Republicans have. Right. They can’t get policy change in either house of the state legislature. As you know, we have a governor who’s a Democrat. So we had foreseen that, you know, Republicans were trying to stack local school boards. And so depending on what city and what school they represent, that is a way that they can have some power over policy. So I think that’s why it feels so different in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Do you feel like any of this came out of the kind of parent anger we saw around COVID closures? Because it seems and mask mandates and all that because while this has become more of a right left issue, I mean, that did galvanize a lot of parents kind of across the political spectrum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah, Yeah, definitely. I mean, I sort of wrote about this last year where we knew that, you know, they they were promising a quote unquote, red wave for school boards in California. We didn’t see that, you know, but in the communities where it did happen, it’s, you know, playing out in the ways that we’re seeing now in Temecula and Chino. And that parental rights slogan is something that’s not happening in California but is like a right talking point across the nation. And I think it sprung out of out of COVID frustrations and school frustrations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And to what extent do you think this is being driven by religion? You know, conservative churches that have supported harsher policies around things like LGBTQ rights? Are they weighing in in this way with school districts as well?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah, actually, I you know, I’ve covered a lot of school board meetings in my in my day. I’ve covered them in Fresno and in the South. And even for me, watching the meeting in Temecula was really something. You know, I had said there was lots of God and lots of gabble. You know, there were Bible scriptures quoted there. You know, God came up a lot like it’s not really something that anyone’s trying to hide. Now, whether or not they’re they’re doing that in schools. Like, I think they understand the rules about church and state and all of that. But this is a board meeting where they can say other things. And I actually watched a sermon in a conservative church in Temecula afterward, and they invited some of the school board members to, you know, the sermon. And, you know, it is a church and only two of the three could come, otherwise they would violate —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> The Brown Act! That’s so interesting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah. It’s getting it’s getting pretty you know, it’s just. Yeah, that that’s safe to say for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> So let’s let’s talk about Temecula. You were down there. This is a school board. We should mention that I believe three the three majority members that are kind of proposing and supporting a lot of these controversial things were, I think, recruited by a local pastor to run. And they started off in the spring by banning critical race theory. Was that did that even get on your radar or was that kind of more of a local conversation?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> I mean, the CRT thing has been on my radar for a while and it gets really confusing because often what some opponents say is CRT isn’t even actually that right. So it gets really tricky about what sort of history lessons they want to teach and what they don’t. But it’s pretty own brand we see, you know, it didn’t take long for us to go from textbooks to in another city. It was about transgender and youth rights. And CRT sort of falls right in there with those topics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Another big skirmish down in Temecula, of course, was over gay rights hero Harvey Milk in school lessons and Governor Newsom’s reaction to that. The school district was calling milk a pedophile, which is ridiculous. And the governor reacted strongly, said he’s going to send textbooks down there. 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But he also had a lot of critics saying, we don’t know if you’re doing this because it’s sound policy or if it’s better for your political profile because, you know, that’s the side you want to be on in the culture wars, if you’re Newsom, right? and so I think, you know, we’re all waiting to see how it will play out. There’s a lot of questions about like, okay, what happens when this happens again? You know, will we see that same sort of attention that some people thought was outsized in this situation?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> What I mean, we’re reading about this from here. We talked about this last week on the show, but we should explain to folks that essentially the school board tried to reject a state approved curriculum that included some supplemental materials, mentioning Harvey Milk. They sort of since backed off. What is your sense, though? 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They’re just sort of glomming on to this big sort of conservative issue without really having a stake in the school board, which is really interesting and all sorts of things that have like little to do with schools kept coming up at the school board meeting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I thought it was really interesting. Like there’s a like sex trafficking would come up a few times in that movie that’s a big on like right wing talking point right now. You know, the just certain things that usually, you know, the one of the —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> There’s a media bubble that a lot of people live in that not everybody understands what they’re talking about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Which silo were you in?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah, Yeah. I mean, one of the one of the parents who is actually hoping to work on a recall effort to recall the majority conservative majority on the board, said that their slogan is make school board, make school board meetings boring again. Okay. They used to be really boring about budgets and stuff, and now they’ve become something else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, well, you know, of course, Governor Newsom, before all this happened, has been very critical of states like Florida and especially Governor Ron DeSantis with the, you know, don’t say gay bill and some of the other things he’s doing down there around transgender rights. And, you know, now we’re hearing from Temecula and Chino that, hey, this is, you know, the governor interfering with local control. 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I mean, California has all of the laws already when it comes to textbooks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so he could say, you know, this isn’t the same because what DeSantis is doing is sort of the opposite and some would argue is illegal over that way, too, because, you know, depending on what you’re allowing a teacher to teach or a school board official to push, so and I talked to his office and they said, you know, just because we believe in local control and deferring to communities about what’s best for them doesn’t mean you can break the law. You know, those are two different things, is what they say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Do you think, though, that like there are potential pitfalls for Democrats for pushing back because like we’re talking about local control? I mean, that is something that has been championed to some extent by both kind of wings of of the political system here in California as being important. Right. That you want people to have that buy-in. So do you feel like there’s either political or practical kind of pitfalls when the state tries to come in and push these things?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> I think the potential pitfall and it’s something that’s come up in conversations a lot is what happens when the shoe is on the other foot, so to speak. So like there are liberal school boards who have said, we don’t want to teach these texts. And it may be because they use a racial slur or something like that, but the texts are like, you know, otherwise literary, like, you know, all of us read them. And so I guess the pitfall could be, you know, will you be treating a district with different political views the same way? I mean, I don’t know if that would be violating. You know, they could pick a different book and still stay in the standards. They just might not want one book. And that’s ultimately actually what Temecula ended up doing. You know, they are following the law now. They just didn’t choose the Harvey Milk book after all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Well, another issue in the culture wars bubbled up in Chino Valley School Board. That’s another school district in the Inland Empire, this one in San Bernardino County. And the issue is not books, but transgender kids. Tell us about that, how it played out and you know why Tony Thurmond, the school superintendent, you know, decided to go down there and address them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> He won’t talk to any of us!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> When you see something like that happen, only a couple of days after something like this happened, you do start to think, wait a second, is there a pattern happening? But there the school board voted for like what they call a parental notification system. So if a kid is transgender or identifies in a way that they say is not on their birth certificate as far as the pronouns that they want to use a bathroom, that’s different from what they used to be using, they’re going to notify their parents. So the conservative majority on that school board and the parents that support it say parents should know everything about their kids. That’s their right. And then gay rights advocates say this is really dangerous because the very kids that may not tell their parents might not feel safe and not be in homes where they feel safe to do that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so you’re taking away from them this like sort of safe haven that they think a school should be by what they say would be outing them against their will. And so another potential pitfalls. Like everybody’s like, where’s Gavin on this? You know, it’s kind of hard for the governor to choose to be involved in one and not in this one. And we do know that that state lawmakers have already said, hey, we’re going to we’re going to work on something, write up a bill to to make sure that this doesn’t happen, because right now that that policy is approved and it’s, you know, that’s in play there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Before we talk, I do want to talk about Tony Thurmond, but you mention Newsom. And I do think that I mean, this feels like a stickier issue for him. I think it was very easy for him to come out swinging when Harvey Milk was accused of being a pedophile. But parental notification is not quite as clean of a line for for liberals, I would imagine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah. I mean, it’s all about the language, too. Parental notification, parental rights know, that’s sort of a cultural term that’s really hard for anybody to disagree with. It’s more one of those things that you need to drill down and understand what somebody means when they say that because it’s such an umbrella term, it’s like who would be anti-parent, you know, But you have to sort of get to what really what they mean behind that, I guess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, Well, we have seen the legislature obviously getting activated on this. And, you know, the school board association actually seemed to take Temecula side on that school book issue. We’ve got others, you know, warning about state overreach. Corey Jackson, a freshman legislator from down that way, has got a bill coming up around all this. Like where how do you see this shaking out in the legislature? And do we see more of those same fault lines that Marisa and you just talked about regarding like books versus parental notification?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> No. I mean, everyone I’ve talked to about the textbook law, at least, is like that. That bill is good as gold. So that bill before was a flop. I had talked to Jackson about it. It didn’t have support from important people like CTA or CCPA because it was became a local control issue. But the governors sort of swooped in and has made it his bill in a way, and immediately had tacked on support from leadership in the legislature. So everyone’s like, Yeah, that’s going to happen. There’s not really going to be a I don’t think there’s going to be a big divide there. And as you know, we have, you know, supermajorities of Democrats in the legislature. 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Well, he had just announced that he, you know, is considering a run for governor and that he had opened a committee. So to see him, you know, stand up and talk in public. You know, he signed up as just like sort of like a layman, like a normal member of the public. It’s really kind of wild to see the state superintendent of all the schools in California just sort of show up there instead of like have you know, it kind of tells me that they weren’t working together, something on that issue. He was quick to tweet about it afterward and is angry with that district. And he did say he was ejected. And I watched the tape and I saw that police were talking to him at the podium afterward. But I also just saw just a few minutes ago that the school district put out a statement saying that that he wasn’t ejected. And now they’re angry with him for saying that he was.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> ‘We wish he’d kept talking.’\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah, it’s hard to it’s hard not to see, you know, it through a political lens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, of course. And of course, all this, you know, if you look at the broader politics, it’s playing out at a time that the legislature is trying to repeal the Prop eight, which passed in 2008 banning same sex marriage, Of course, that’s already been resolved through the courts. So it’s kind of symbolic. But, you know, we also have, you know, talk about repealing the travel ban to states which have anti LGBTQ politics and laws. So what do you make of the fact that all of this is coming up right now? I mean, is this just part is this in some way tied to 2024, do you think?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> I think that it’s that local piece again, I think because, I mean, California has the strongest LGBT rights and protections, like you just mentioned as a state, right. But I think to see this, it’s because it’s kind of the only way we can see them wedge through. Like maybe you might see this on a city council in a certain city or a board, a supes or something. But usually, you know, this is kind of as hyperlocal as it gets. And so I think that’s where we’re that’s sort of the only way it pokes through in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Final question before we let you go. I mean, the president has even been talking about this. We’ve seen him kind of linking the abortion SCOTUS decision and MAGA extremists to book bans. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. And Marisa, I want to start, I think with the prison part of that Governor Newsom’s plan to transform San Quentin Prison into what he likes to call the California model. It’s rehabilitation for prisoners who will eventually be released, which is, you know, the vast majority of inmates. They will be paroled at some point. And I took a tour of the prison yesterday to learn more about the governor’s plan, which is really inspired by how Norway and other Scandinavian countries manage crime and punishment, less emphasis on punishments, more attention to preparing prisoners for life on the outside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah. And I mean, since he rolled that out, Scott, there’s been some criticism about the lack of details in the plan. But at this tour, you were with the warden and Sacramento mayor, Darrell Steinberg, who’s actually advising the governor on all of this. What did you hear from them? What did you see?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, well, obviously, the both the warden and Steinberg are embracing this in a big way. And, you know, let’s face it, San Quentin has already been doing they’re really an outlier in the corrections system. They’ve been doing a lot of programing there for many, many years. But this is really an expansion of that. And yeah, you’re right, there is some criticism on the lack of details. But, you know, Steinberg says really what we’re talking about here is pretty basic, a fundamental change in the way that personnel, starting with correctional officers, are trained and how they are recruited and retained. And, you know, that is that is a big issue, Marisa. You know, obviously, the the corrections officers don’t all think about sitting down and having coffee with prisoners, which is exactly what they’re envisioning. You know, they’re talking about having more interaction, shaking hands, playing pickleball with the with these with these men, which is kind of what they do in Norway and some of these Scandinavian countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I mean, honestly, like you and I have both covered a lot of prisons and criminal justice over the years. We’ve covered a lot of the reforms that have happened on the outside of prisons. And I actually kind of think we’ll get into the, you know, money they need to spend on infrastructure and all of that and programs. But to me, the culture change here seems like really the nub of this. And probably the most challenging part. I mean, we’ve seen this on the outside with the way a lot of police departments have really pushed back against reforms that voters have passed and kind of refused to enact them in some ways. Right. In terms of like when we talk about Prop 47 and this feeling of like, oh, well, you know, it’s a misdemeanor, I don’t even want to arrest someone. And I’ve been doing a lot of reporting, you know, Scott, around juvenile justice and the problems that plagued those state facilities. You know, a lot of those officers are now being hired by this, the adult system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Do you think that’s a good thing? I mean, based on the way they have, you know, been in their jobs, is that are they going to be down with this new approach?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I mean, you would think it would actually make sense because our juvenile system has been, at least on paper, more based towards rehabilitation than punishment. But the story that we’ve been hearing in recent months about the drug use, the drug furnishing by officers, you know, a lot of these problems, I think, is it it just speaks to the challenges there. And so that’s something I’ll be watching. But as we noted, there’s also been criticisms about sort of the like mechanics of doing this. What have you heard from lawmakers?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Of course, the governor’s been pushing this and he’s got a pretty tight timeline. And he got the legislature to approve $360 million. And this is the first phase of what they’re going to do. They’re going to knock down an old furniture factory that inmates used to work in at San Quentin, replace it with what they’re describing as a campus kind of a situation for more classrooms. The culture change. It applies not only to the corrections officers but also to the the men who are they’re incarcerated. And I talked to one of those guys, Juan Haines, who’s been incarcerated for 27 years. He’s actually one of the editors for the San Quentin News, which is an award winning newspaper that I went into the newsroom, talked with him and some of the other guys. And, you know, here’s you know, I asked him to put on his journalist’s hat and, you know, what is he skeptical about when he hears this plan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Juan Haines:\u003c/strong> I’m skeptical about the people that are actually going to be pushing the buttons. I’m skeptical about California’s overcrowded prisons and I’m skeptical over buy in from both sides. I’ve talked to a lot of correctional officers that really love this idea. And then there’s some that don’t.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, for sure. And, you know, one of the things that Steinberg talked about is that corrections often this is a hard job for corrections officers, you know, and the idea of transforming the job into not only social work, but more and more human, more humane is something that he thinks that the guards, the peace officers there will. The corrections officers will embrace because they’ll feel better about what they do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I mean, that was an argument Jerry Brown made in changing some of the way that we program in prisons, giving more opportunities for rehabilitation. I mean, but also interestingly, one, Haynes mentioned both sides, and I think this is also going to require buy in from prisoners, folks who, you know, are like it takes all sides. And I think if you don’t have that and I think that’ll require, again, the trust building that trust with folks. But beyond all this, Scott, I mean, we got to talk about the politics, this political breakdown. You know, the governor seems to maybe have his eyes on higher office outside of California, as you may have heard on this show and elsewhere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> He has sub-zero interest in that, come on Marisa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Subzero in the White House. But truthfully, I mean, if this were successful, it would certainly be something you could run on on a national platform. What do you think he’s looking at? Like, what are the politics here, both immediate but more long term for the governor?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, he has set this timeline of 2025. And it was you know, we were asking Steinberg like, okay, what does that mean? January 20, 25, December 2025, You know, it was you know, Steinberg knows that this is really squishy. He said August 4th, you know, and just pulling a number. And I said, oh, is the ribbon cutting going to be in Iowa? You know, because clearly this is the kind of big idea that Newsom loves to talk about and run on. I mean, criminal justice and crime are things that, you know, Democrats at the moment are a little bit on their their back heels on their a little bit on the defensive. And I think he sees this as the kind of thing that will appeal to that maybe broad middle of voters who want to see rules. They want to see public safety and sell this as good for public safety, because as these folks get out of prison and go into the community, if they’re not prepared to take jobs, what are they going to do? They’re going to turn to crime again because they won’t have many alternatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. And I mean, we like I said, we’ve done a lot of work to try, you know, to make that reentry smoother. But I think anything you do on the front end when folks are behind bars is going to help greatly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, and I would say the front end is really high school. Well, you know, yeah, you know, there are there are legislators, of course, like Reggie Jones Sawyer, who wants to take some of these elusive savings from closing prisons and plow it into the front end, the real front end, which is before they get in trouble. But, you know, job programs, violence prevention, that kind of thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah and I think we should say I mean, I do think there’s been a lot of concern, both driven by both politics and just like what people are actually experiencing around crime. But if you look at overall crime rates compared to 30 years ago, they are still so low. We’ve seen the state shutter already, a couple of prisons more in the pipeline to shut down. They have ended a lot of contracts with private prison operators. And so I think, all told, you know, this is part of a trend we’ve seen in California. You know, I think there’s an open question as to whether reimagining a 150 year old prison is the best way. Should we just be starting from scratch?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well, exactly. And if you look at death row, those there’s still 550 or so condemned inmates there. They’re gradually moving them out to other maximum security prisons. And you know what? They’re not going to just knock that down. I mean, maybe that would be the best thing to do. But they’re not. They’re going to make some revisions to it. But certainly housing and space in general is an opportunity, but also a huge challenge, not just at San Quentin, but, you know, across the system. And so there are those who say, well, geez, maybe there’s something better to to use this money in different ways, spread it out across different institutions. You know, just about 5% of all the people who are incarcerated in California are at San Quentin. And I think what we’re going to see is sort of a quote unquote, cream of the crop come to San Quentin, those who really are motivated to change, to learn skills and so on. And those who aren’t are going to go to some of these other prisons that don’t have these programs, or at least not in the numbers that they’ve had them at Quentin for so long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah. All right. Well, we will keep watching that. I know you will and I will as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, absolutely. All right. We’re going to take a short break. And when we return, we’re going to be joined by L.A. Times reporter Mackenzie Mays. She’s been covering the politics around LGBTQ issues and other cultural issues that are roiling local school districts in California. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Welcome back to Political Breakdown. I’m Scott Shafer here with Marisa Lagos. And we’re going to turn to the fights over curriculum and how to treat students who identify as transgender that have roiled local school districts and captured the attention of state officials like Governor Gavin Newsom and state Superintendent Tony Thurmond. Los Angeles Times, state government and politics reporter Mackenzie Mays has been covering these dustups and she joins us now from Sacramento. Hey, Mackenzie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Hey, how are you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Doing well. So, you know, we’ve been hearing about these kinds of issues really for almost years, but it’s mostly been in red states like Florida and Texas, you know, limiting what teachers can say, that kind of thing. Parental rights fights. It seems like this is relatively new to California. Is that is that your take?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> I would say that it feels new in California because it’s one of the only pathways to sort of power over policy that Republicans have. Right. They can’t get policy change in either house of the state legislature. As you know, we have a governor who’s a Democrat. So we had foreseen that, you know, Republicans were trying to stack local school boards. And so depending on what city and what school they represent, that is a way that they can have some power over policy. So I think that’s why it feels so different in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Do you feel like any of this came out of the kind of parent anger we saw around COVID closures? Because it seems and mask mandates and all that because while this has become more of a right left issue, I mean, that did galvanize a lot of parents kind of across the political spectrum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah, Yeah, definitely. I mean, I sort of wrote about this last year where we knew that, you know, they they were promising a quote unquote, red wave for school boards in California. We didn’t see that, you know, but in the communities where it did happen, it’s, you know, playing out in the ways that we’re seeing now in Temecula and Chino. And that parental rights slogan is something that’s not happening in California but is like a right talking point across the nation. And I think it sprung out of out of COVID frustrations and school frustrations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And to what extent do you think this is being driven by religion? You know, conservative churches that have supported harsher policies around things like LGBTQ rights? Are they weighing in in this way with school districts as well?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah, actually, I you know, I’ve covered a lot of school board meetings in my in my day. I’ve covered them in Fresno and in the South. And even for me, watching the meeting in Temecula was really something. You know, I had said there was lots of God and lots of gabble. You know, there were Bible scriptures quoted there. You know, God came up a lot like it’s not really something that anyone’s trying to hide. Now, whether or not they’re they’re doing that in schools. Like, I think they understand the rules about church and state and all of that. But this is a board meeting where they can say other things. And I actually watched a sermon in a conservative church in Temecula afterward, and they invited some of the school board members to, you know, the sermon. And, you know, it is a church and only two of the three could come, otherwise they would violate —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> The Brown Act! That’s so interesting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah. It’s getting it’s getting pretty you know, it’s just. Yeah, that that’s safe to say for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> So let’s let’s talk about Temecula. You were down there. This is a school board. We should mention that I believe three the three majority members that are kind of proposing and supporting a lot of these controversial things were, I think, recruited by a local pastor to run. And they started off in the spring by banning critical race theory. Was that did that even get on your radar or was that kind of more of a local conversation?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> I mean, the CRT thing has been on my radar for a while and it gets really confusing because often what some opponents say is CRT isn’t even actually that right. So it gets really tricky about what sort of history lessons they want to teach and what they don’t. But it’s pretty own brand we see, you know, it didn’t take long for us to go from textbooks to in another city. It was about transgender and youth rights. And CRT sort of falls right in there with those topics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Another big skirmish down in Temecula, of course, was over gay rights hero Harvey Milk in school lessons and Governor Newsom’s reaction to that. The school district was calling milk a pedophile, which is ridiculous. And the governor reacted strongly, said he’s going to send textbooks down there. Talk about how that played out, how the governor responded and where things are now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I think, you know, it’s pretty rare in California for a governor to insert himself, I guess, in a local school board. If you we if you talk to school board officials across the state and teachers, all you hear about is local control because California is so big. So California sets the laws and the standards and everybody’s pretty up front about how hard it is to actually regulate and enforce those. So to see a governor say, “You can’t do this, and if you do this, I’m going to make sure that I fine you” was really interesting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And he had a lot of supporters saying, yes, like you need to step in because they’re not doing the right thing. But he also had a lot of critics saying, we don’t know if you’re doing this because it’s sound policy or if it’s better for your political profile because, you know, that’s the side you want to be on in the culture wars, if you’re Newsom, right? and so I think, you know, we’re all waiting to see how it will play out. There’s a lot of questions about like, okay, what happens when this happens again? You know, will we see that same sort of attention that some people thought was outsized in this situation?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> What I mean, we’re reading about this from here. We talked about this last week on the show, but we should explain to folks that essentially the school board tried to reject a state approved curriculum that included some supplemental materials, mentioning Harvey Milk. They sort of since backed off. What is your sense, though? Like is this is this splitting the community down there that is a relatively purple district, I believe, or is it are people there supportive of it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Well, I mean, we know there were enough people there to vote the board members and that support it, and that’s a majority of the board. So we know that. But I also talk to parents, you know, this this meeting went on for like 9 hours and went past midnight. And there were parents who opposed it, too, and teachers, too. And some of the folks that oppose the conservative majority and support the Harvey Milk text say that a lot of the drama that they’re seeing at school board meetings is like outside agitators, they call them. They’re like, they’re not parents, they’re not even voters. They’re just sort of glomming on to this big sort of conservative issue without really having a stake in the school board, which is really interesting and all sorts of things that have like little to do with schools kept coming up at the school board meeting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I thought it was really interesting. Like there’s a like sex trafficking would come up a few times in that movie that’s a big on like right wing talking point right now. You know, the just certain things that usually, you know, the one of the —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> There’s a media bubble that a lot of people live in that not everybody understands what they’re talking about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Which silo were you in?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah, Yeah. I mean, one of the one of the parents who is actually hoping to work on a recall effort to recall the majority conservative majority on the board, said that their slogan is make school board, make school board meetings boring again. Okay. They used to be really boring about budgets and stuff, and now they’ve become something else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, well, you know, of course, Governor Newsom, before all this happened, has been very critical of states like Florida and especially Governor Ron DeSantis with the, you know, don’t say gay bill and some of the other things he’s doing down there around transgender rights. And, you know, now we’re hearing from Temecula and Chino that, hey, this is, you know, the governor interfering with local control. So how is what Newsom is doing different from what DeSantis is doing and got criticized for by Newsom?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I actually I talked to an attorney who compared the two, and I’m sure Newsom does not like ever being compared to DeSantis. As we know, they’re sort of like arch nemeses and just constant rivals. But to Newsom’s point, he would say, you know, the school board’s breaking the law. We have laws that say you must teach LGBT history. We have laws about comprehensive sex ed, laws about ethnic studies. I mean, California has all of the laws already when it comes to textbooks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so he could say, you know, this isn’t the same because what DeSantis is doing is sort of the opposite and some would argue is illegal over that way, too, because, you know, depending on what you’re allowing a teacher to teach or a school board official to push, so and I talked to his office and they said, you know, just because we believe in local control and deferring to communities about what’s best for them doesn’t mean you can break the law. You know, those are two different things, is what they say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Do you think, though, that like there are potential pitfalls for Democrats for pushing back because like we’re talking about local control? I mean, that is something that has been championed to some extent by both kind of wings of of the political system here in California as being important. Right. That you want people to have that buy-in. So do you feel like there’s either political or practical kind of pitfalls when the state tries to come in and push these things?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> I think the potential pitfall and it’s something that’s come up in conversations a lot is what happens when the shoe is on the other foot, so to speak. So like there are liberal school boards who have said, we don’t want to teach these texts. And it may be because they use a racial slur or something like that, but the texts are like, you know, otherwise literary, like, you know, all of us read them. And so I guess the pitfall could be, you know, will you be treating a district with different political views the same way? I mean, I don’t know if that would be violating. You know, they could pick a different book and still stay in the standards. They just might not want one book. And that’s ultimately actually what Temecula ended up doing. You know, they are following the law now. They just didn’t choose the Harvey Milk book after all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Well, another issue in the culture wars bubbled up in Chino Valley School Board. That’s another school district in the Inland Empire, this one in San Bernardino County. And the issue is not books, but transgender kids. Tell us about that, how it played out and you know why Tony Thurmond, the school superintendent, you know, decided to go down there and address them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> He won’t talk to any of us!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> When you see something like that happen, only a couple of days after something like this happened, you do start to think, wait a second, is there a pattern happening? But there the school board voted for like what they call a parental notification system. So if a kid is transgender or identifies in a way that they say is not on their birth certificate as far as the pronouns that they want to use a bathroom, that’s different from what they used to be using, they’re going to notify their parents. So the conservative majority on that school board and the parents that support it say parents should know everything about their kids. That’s their right. And then gay rights advocates say this is really dangerous because the very kids that may not tell their parents might not feel safe and not be in homes where they feel safe to do that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so you’re taking away from them this like sort of safe haven that they think a school should be by what they say would be outing them against their will. And so another potential pitfalls. Like everybody’s like, where’s Gavin on this? You know, it’s kind of hard for the governor to choose to be involved in one and not in this one. And we do know that that state lawmakers have already said, hey, we’re going to we’re going to work on something, write up a bill to to make sure that this doesn’t happen, because right now that that policy is approved and it’s, you know, that’s in play there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Before we talk, I do want to talk about Tony Thurmond, but you mention Newsom. And I do think that I mean, this feels like a stickier issue for him. I think it was very easy for him to come out swinging when Harvey Milk was accused of being a pedophile. But parental notification is not quite as clean of a line for for liberals, I would imagine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah. I mean, it’s all about the language, too. Parental notification, parental rights know, that’s sort of a cultural term that’s really hard for anybody to disagree with. It’s more one of those things that you need to drill down and understand what somebody means when they say that because it’s such an umbrella term, it’s like who would be anti-parent, you know, But you have to sort of get to what really what they mean behind that, I guess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, Well, we have seen the legislature obviously getting activated on this. And, you know, the school board association actually seemed to take Temecula side on that school book issue. We’ve got others, you know, warning about state overreach. Corey Jackson, a freshman legislator from down that way, has got a bill coming up around all this. Like where how do you see this shaking out in the legislature? And do we see more of those same fault lines that Marisa and you just talked about regarding like books versus parental notification?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> No. I mean, everyone I’ve talked to about the textbook law, at least, is like that. That bill is good as gold. So that bill before was a flop. I had talked to Jackson about it. It didn’t have support from important people like CTA or CCPA because it was became a local control issue. But the governors sort of swooped in and has made it his bill in a way, and immediately had tacked on support from leadership in the legislature. So everyone’s like, Yeah, that’s going to happen. There’s not really going to be a I don’t think there’s going to be a big divide there. And as you know, we have, you know, supermajorities of Democrats in the legislature. We’ll have to wait to see what the other issue, what the other bill looks like and if the old, you know, stand up against some, I guess, tougher criticism than this textbook bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I know we just have you for a few more minutes, Mackenzie. I do want to ask the state superintendent, Tony Thurmond kind of shouted down out of that Chino Valley School board meeting. He says he was kicked out. It looked like he was kind of asked to leave maybe after his public comment. But I made a joke about Thurmond. I mean, he has not been super accessible, I think, to the press or the public in a lot of ways. Do you think he’s trying to kind of burnishes his credentials politically with all of this and and what role does he actually have a superintendent?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> I mean, people in Sacramento definitely viewed it that way. He’s running for governor. Well, he had just announced that he, you know, is considering a run for governor and that he had opened a committee. So to see him, you know, stand up and talk in public. You know, he signed up as just like sort of like a layman, like a normal member of the public. It’s really kind of wild to see the state superintendent of all the schools in California just sort of show up there instead of like have you know, it kind of tells me that they weren’t working together, something on that issue. He was quick to tweet about it afterward and is angry with that district. And he did say he was ejected. And I watched the tape and I saw that police were talking to him at the podium afterward. But I also just saw just a few minutes ago that the school district put out a statement saying that that he wasn’t ejected. And now they’re angry with him for saying that he was.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> ‘We wish he’d kept talking.’\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> Yeah, it’s hard to it’s hard not to see, you know, it through a political lens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah, of course. And of course, all this, you know, if you look at the broader politics, it’s playing out at a time that the legislature is trying to repeal the Prop eight, which passed in 2008 banning same sex marriage, Of course, that’s already been resolved through the courts. So it’s kind of symbolic. But, you know, we also have, you know, talk about repealing the travel ban to states which have anti LGBTQ politics and laws. So what do you make of the fact that all of this is coming up right now? I mean, is this just part is this in some way tied to 2024, do you think?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> I think that it’s that local piece again, I think because, I mean, California has the strongest LGBT rights and protections, like you just mentioned as a state, right. But I think to see this, it’s because it’s kind of the only way we can see them wedge through. Like maybe you might see this on a city council in a certain city or a board, a supes or something. But usually, you know, this is kind of as hyperlocal as it gets. And so I think that’s where we’re that’s sort of the only way it pokes through in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Final question before we let you go. I mean, the president has even been talking about this. We’ve seen him kind of linking the abortion SCOTUS decision and MAGA extremists to book bans. I know there’s a civil rights investigation by the Department of Education into whether Texas school district’s sweeping removal of LGBT themed books constitutes discrimination. We always talk about California leading the nation, are we are we going to be leaders here Mackenzie? What do we what do we expect in the coming months and in the next year on all of this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mackenzie Mays:\u003c/strong> On the textbook situation, I mean, we we sort of already are in a lot of ways. I think that’s part of the criticism too, is we already have the most stringent education standards for schools as far as diversity and inclusion goes. So I guess, you know, the governor has to follow through on this law, obviously, and it’ll probably be the strictest sort of form of regulation we’ve seen. And again, it will put California as sort of the antithesis of these red states, which is something we see Newsom do a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And, of course, all this is happening in during summer break. Right? Right. So the kids aren’t even in school and they’re all arguing about the kids. All right. Mackenzie Mays from the Los Angeles Times, thank you so much for joining us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ci data-stringify-type=\"italic\">Updated 1:30 p.m., Friday\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Quentin, California’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/facility-locator/sq/\">oldest state prison\u003c/a>, and among its most notorious, will be transformed into a rehabilitative facility, where incarcerated people at lower risk of misconduct can receive education and training in preparation for their release, Gov. Gavin Newsom announced Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the proposal, the Marin County lockup, which currently \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/research/wp-content/uploads/sites/174/2023/03/Tpop1d230315.pdf\">incarcerates about 3,900 people\u003c/a>, including 546 on death row, will be transformed by 2025 into what Newsom hopes will be a world-class rehabilitation center based loosely on a Scandinavian model of incarceration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We want to be the preeminent restorative justice facility in the world — that’s the goal,” Newsom said Friday, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo1caB_7Sok\">during a visit to the prison\u003c/a>, which he said will be renamed the San Quentin Rehabilitation Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Full details of the plan were not immediately clear, but Newsom said it would build on the innovative programs San Quentin is already known for, such as an accredited junior college and an \u003ca href=\"https://sanquentinnews.com/\">award-winning newspaper\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/\">podcast\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new direction — which Newsom dubbed the “California Model” — will be aimed at ensuring people inside the prison receive the tools and resources they need — from therapy to education and job training — to succeed in the outside world and steer clear of additional criminal behavior, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The transformation will be data-driven, Newsom said, and inspired by “wildly successful” approaches in places like Norway, which has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/science-norway-europe-oslo-crime-bdd56073c42dc2066640095d7e62b048\">maximum-security Norwegian prisons\u003c/a>, cells often look more like dorm rooms with additional furniture such as chairs, desks and even TVs, and incarcerated people have access to kitchens and activities like basketball.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The announcement comes \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11732471/gov-newsom-to-end-death-penalty-by-executive-order-political-fallout-likely\">four years after Newsom declared a moratorium on the death penalty in California\u003c/a>, with all remaining people on San Quentin’s death row \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-death-row-closed-prisons-gavin-newsom-d59ae606239abadb2dfa03be71e54649\">slated to eventually be transferred\u003c/a> to other prisons in the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sentences are not being changed, I want to make that crystal clear,” said Newsom, a staunch opponent of the death penalty. He noted that those currently on San Quentin’s death row will be assessed individually to determine risk of violent behavior, with the goal of integrating them all into the general prison population by the end of 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California’s prison population has been falling for years, the result of criminal justice reforms instituted after the U.S. Supreme Court in 2011 \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2011/05/23/136579580/california-is-ordered-to-cut-its-prison-population\">ordered the state to slim down its overcrowded lockups\u003c/a>. Newsom already shut down one prison in 2021, with a second scheduled to shutter this summer and a third set to close by 2025.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11888753,news_11942302 \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">align\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">='\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">left' \u003c/span> label='More on the history of San Quentin']Just the first two closures will save the state about $300 million a year, officials estimate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Newsom’s attempted transformation of San Quentin — a facility located on a scenic point jutting into the San Francisco Bay, in one of the wealthiest areas of the state — will be his most visible prison reform to date.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The prison, which has the largest death row population in the country, is widely recognized for having housed a slew of high-profile people convicted of heinous offenses, including cult leader Charles Manson and Scott Peterson, and was the site of violent uprisings in the 1960s and ’70s. More recently, however, the facility has garnered attention for adopting some of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.neh.gov/about/awards/national-humanities-medals/prison-university-project#:~:text=The%20Prison%20University%20Project%20at,earn%20college%20credits%2C%20tuition%20free.\">most innovative prison education and training programs\u003c/a> in the nation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re making progress. But we’re not doing justice to the ‘R’ in ‘CDCR,’” Newsom said, referring to the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, which oversees the state’s sprawling prison system. “We have to be in the homecoming business. It’s not just about rehabilitation, it’s about homecoming. You want folks coming back feeling better.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although California’s recidivism rate has declined in recent years, it remains stubbornly high: \u003ca href=\"https://www.bsa.ca.gov/pdfs/reports/2018-113.pdf\">On average nearly 50% of people who leave the prison system reoffend\u003c/a>, according to a 2019 state audit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Where’s the public safety in that?” said Newsom. He noted that 800 people are released from San Quentin every year, and the primary goal should be keeping them from committing another crime and ending back in the system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters of criminal justice reform cheered the announcement. Among them was Jay Jordan, CEO of the Alliance for Safety and Justice, a national network of crime survivors that advocates for less incarceration and more support for both criminal offenders and victims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jordan spent years in California prisons after being convicted of robbery at the age of 18. Behind bars, he was able to receive therapy for the first time in his life, and that alone helped change everything, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Making San Quentin an institution entirely dedicated to providing that kind of support marks a huge shift in California’s approach to punishment and rehabilitation, Jordan added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It signifies that we’re turning a new page in California’s history. We’re not just going to warehouse people in prison and then they get out and they’re not successful,” he said. “We’re actually going to have solutions where people … are going to places to get what they need to stop the cycle of crime.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of the details remain to be worked out, including specific timelines and how to physically transform a 171-year-old building full of concrete cells and outdated buildings into a rehabilitative space. Newsom included $20 million in his January budget proposal to aid in San Quentin’s transition, and he plans to name a group of experts to oversee the changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dan Seeman, who advised both Newsom and his predecessor, Gov. Jerry Brown, on criminal justice policy, said the plan will not only save money but eventually make California safer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You close the prisons — but this is the next step to make sure it’s successful,” he said. “We have the ability, due to the lower population, to realize savings from prison closures, but that in and of itself can’t be the only approach. We have to pair it with efforts to reduce recidivism, and initiatives like this are ways to do that at relatively low cost to taxpayers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Seeman said the Norway model Newsom is so inspired by is based on a wholly different philosophy of incarceration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think in other countries such as Norway, they view the loss of liberty as the punishment,” he said. “They’re more intentional about what is done during folks’ time in custody to make sure they come out better neighbors and productive members of society.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That means using the time people spend behind bars to help them move past all the things that drove them to commit crimes in the first place, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Correction (March 17): This story originally stated there were nearly 700 people on death row in San Quentin. In fact, there are currently a total of 668 people — including 21 women — on death row in all of California. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ci data-stringify-type=\"italic\">Updated 1:30 p.m., Friday\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Quentin, California’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/facility-locator/sq/\">oldest state prison\u003c/a>, and among its most notorious, will be transformed into a rehabilitative facility, where incarcerated people at lower risk of misconduct can receive education and training in preparation for their release, Gov. Gavin Newsom announced Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the proposal, the Marin County lockup, which currently \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/research/wp-content/uploads/sites/174/2023/03/Tpop1d230315.pdf\">incarcerates about 3,900 people\u003c/a>, including 546 on death row, will be transformed by 2025 into what Newsom hopes will be a world-class rehabilitation center based loosely on a Scandinavian model of incarceration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We want to be the preeminent restorative justice facility in the world — that’s the goal,” Newsom said Friday, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo1caB_7Sok\">during a visit to the prison\u003c/a>, which he said will be renamed the San Quentin Rehabilitation Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Full details of the plan were not immediately clear, but Newsom said it would build on the innovative programs San Quentin is already known for, such as an accredited junior college and an \u003ca href=\"https://sanquentinnews.com/\">award-winning newspaper\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.earhustlesq.com/\">podcast\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new direction — which Newsom dubbed the “California Model” — will be aimed at ensuring people inside the prison receive the tools and resources they need — from therapy to education and job training — to succeed in the outside world and steer clear of additional criminal behavior, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The transformation will be data-driven, Newsom said, and inspired by “wildly successful” approaches in places like Norway, which has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/science-norway-europe-oslo-crime-bdd56073c42dc2066640095d7e62b048\">maximum-security Norwegian prisons\u003c/a>, cells often look more like dorm rooms with additional furniture such as chairs, desks and even TVs, and incarcerated people have access to kitchens and activities like basketball.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The announcement comes \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11732471/gov-newsom-to-end-death-penalty-by-executive-order-political-fallout-likely\">four years after Newsom declared a moratorium on the death penalty in California\u003c/a>, with all remaining people on San Quentin’s death row \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-death-row-closed-prisons-gavin-newsom-d59ae606239abadb2dfa03be71e54649\">slated to eventually be transferred\u003c/a> to other prisons in the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sentences are not being changed, I want to make that crystal clear,” said Newsom, a staunch opponent of the death penalty. He noted that those currently on San Quentin’s death row will be assessed individually to determine risk of violent behavior, with the goal of integrating them all into the general prison population by the end of 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California’s prison population has been falling for years, the result of criminal justice reforms instituted after the U.S. Supreme Court in 2011 \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2011/05/23/136579580/california-is-ordered-to-cut-its-prison-population\">ordered the state to slim down its overcrowded lockups\u003c/a>. Newsom already shut down one prison in 2021, with a second scheduled to shutter this summer and a third set to close by 2025.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Just the first two closures will save the state about $300 million a year, officials estimate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Newsom’s attempted transformation of San Quentin — a facility located on a scenic point jutting into the San Francisco Bay, in one of the wealthiest areas of the state — will be his most visible prison reform to date.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The prison, which has the largest death row population in the country, is widely recognized for having housed a slew of high-profile people convicted of heinous offenses, including cult leader Charles Manson and Scott Peterson, and was the site of violent uprisings in the 1960s and ’70s. More recently, however, the facility has garnered attention for adopting some of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.neh.gov/about/awards/national-humanities-medals/prison-university-project#:~:text=The%20Prison%20University%20Project%20at,earn%20college%20credits%2C%20tuition%20free.\">most innovative prison education and training programs\u003c/a> in the nation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re making progress. But we’re not doing justice to the ‘R’ in ‘CDCR,’” Newsom said, referring to the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, which oversees the state’s sprawling prison system. “We have to be in the homecoming business. It’s not just about rehabilitation, it’s about homecoming. You want folks coming back feeling better.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although California’s recidivism rate has declined in recent years, it remains stubbornly high: \u003ca href=\"https://www.bsa.ca.gov/pdfs/reports/2018-113.pdf\">On average nearly 50% of people who leave the prison system reoffend\u003c/a>, according to a 2019 state audit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Where’s the public safety in that?” said Newsom. He noted that 800 people are released from San Quentin every year, and the primary goal should be keeping them from committing another crime and ending back in the system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters of criminal justice reform cheered the announcement. Among them was Jay Jordan, CEO of the Alliance for Safety and Justice, a national network of crime survivors that advocates for less incarceration and more support for both criminal offenders and victims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jordan spent years in California prisons after being convicted of robbery at the age of 18. Behind bars, he was able to receive therapy for the first time in his life, and that alone helped change everything, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Making San Quentin an institution entirely dedicated to providing that kind of support marks a huge shift in California’s approach to punishment and rehabilitation, Jordan added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It signifies that we’re turning a new page in California’s history. We’re not just going to warehouse people in prison and then they get out and they’re not successful,” he said. “We’re actually going to have solutions where people … are going to places to get what they need to stop the cycle of crime.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of the details remain to be worked out, including specific timelines and how to physically transform a 171-year-old building full of concrete cells and outdated buildings into a rehabilitative space. Newsom included $20 million in his January budget proposal to aid in San Quentin’s transition, and he plans to name a group of experts to oversee the changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dan Seeman, who advised both Newsom and his predecessor, Gov. Jerry Brown, on criminal justice policy, said the plan will not only save money but eventually make California safer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You close the prisons — but this is the next step to make sure it’s successful,” he said. “We have the ability, due to the lower population, to realize savings from prison closures, but that in and of itself can’t be the only approach. 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"content": "\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://ias.ucsc.edu/content/2021/solitary-garden\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Solitary Garden\u003c/a> on the UC Santa Cruz campus is a small space, 9 feet long by 6 feet wide, flanked by old-growth oaks and sweeping views of the Monterey Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's a little oasis, with its bushy plantings of rosemary, daisies and agave. The dimensions of the public sculpture are intentional — it's the size of an average solitary confinement cell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Timothy James Young, the person tasked with curating the Solitary Garden, has never himself set foot on campus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I am a wrongfully convicted prisoner on San Quentin's death row,\" said Young when he introduced himself at the start of a recent phone interview with KQED from the maximum security state prison in Marin County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The 52-year-old, also known as \"the solitary gardener,\" is one among \u003ca href=\"https://documents.deathpenaltyinfo.org/pdf/FactSheet.pdf\">nearly 700 people on death row in California\u003c/a> — the highest number in the U.S. Young said he's been locked up for 23 years on scant evidence. With his appeal process moving at a glacial pace, Young said he had given up hope of ever getting out — until students and faculty at UC Santa Cruz came along to campaign for his innocence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My journey to freedom didn't necessarily begin until I was introduced to Solitary Garden and the folks at UC Santa Cruz,\" said Young, who's been the curator of the garden since its inception on campus three years ago, thanks to a nationwide public art project protesting solitary confinement created by multidisciplinary artist and prison reform activist \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Sumell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jackie Sumell\u003c/a>. The campus community does the actual gardening on Young's behalf.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917030\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11917030 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A 9-by-6-foot raised bed on a grassy hillside has in its center three-dimensional concrete shapes that resemble a bed, a toilet, and two low pillars. On the front side is a cell door, with what indoors would be floor-to-ceiling bars. Plantings surround the concrete shapes -- low green bushes and a succulent in one corner. Beyond the plot is another low grassy hillside, oak trees and, beyond that, in the distance, the ocean. \" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Solitary Garden at UC Santa Cruz. \u003ccite>(Chloe Veltman/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Sumell put Young in touch with UC Santa Cruz after he reached out to her as an admirer of her work and they struck up a correspondence. Young said he has forged deep friendships as a result of with students and faculty on campus as a result of being involved with the project. The feeling is mutual.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We want everyone to understand that this is not a relationship you can just walk away from. As long as he's in that cell, we need to continue to tend to that relationship, just as we tend the garden,\" said Rachel Nelson, who commissioned the Solitary Garden in her role as director of \u003ca href=\"https://ias.ucsc.edu/\">UC Santa Cruz's Institute of the Arts and Sciences\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Journey through the system\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Young said it's been a long journey since the day of his arrest in April 1999. He said law enforcement officers pulled him over while he was leaving an Easter celebration in the San Joaquin Valley town of Lemoore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I look around and there's like assault rifles being pointed at me from every direction, and I'm just trying to figure out what the heck is going on,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The arrest happened four years after the crime Young eventually found out he was accused of committing — the murder of five people in a bar in the nearby town of Tulare — took place. Stuck in county jail, Young said he assumed the criminal legal system would work in his favor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My initial thought was, 'Well, I'm an American. I have rights. Once we get to a preliminary hearing, this case will be dismissed,'\" Young said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917035\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 723px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11917035 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56597_sdfqvw-qut.jpg\" alt='A Black man with brown eyes, chin-length locs and a graying goatee sits backward on a red plastic chair. He wears a light-blue short-sleeved prison tunic and navy blue sweatpants; on the right leg are yellow, vertical letters spelling \"SONER\" (as if they are part of the word \"PRISONER\"). He rests the fingertips of his hands, including his thumbs, together as he leans forward against the back of the chair, looking straight at the camera with a confident smile. To his right is a white-painted barred door; he appears to be inside a cell.' width=\"723\" height=\"721\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56597_sdfqvw-qut.jpg 723w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56597_sdfqvw-qut-160x160.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Timothy James Young. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Timothy James Young)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The case went to trial despite shaky evidence and unreliable witnesses, including Anthony Wolfe, a man convicted of a felony who served as a paid informant in return for a reduced sentence for himself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In December 2005, an all-white jury convicted Young, who is Black, of murder. A month later, he was sentenced to death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I sat thinking, 'The truth will come out. Just hang in there. This will all be exposed and it’ll all be over with,'\" Young said. \"The truth \u003ci>did\u003c/i> come out. But everybody discarded it. And so 23 years later, I'm still wrongfully imprisoned and the nightmare continues.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A growing connection to students\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In recent months, a small group of film and digital media students at UC Santa Cruz has been working to make a case for exonerating Young.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoDy1jgVVxo\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their eight-minute documentary, \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoDy1jgVVxo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">I Am More: The Story of Tim Young\u003c/a>,\" is the centerpiece of a new collaboration with students mostly majoring in government at \u003ca href=\"https://www.georgetown.edu/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Georgetown University\u003c/a>, as part of a class there called \"\u003ca href=\"https://prisonsandjustice.georgetown.edu/news/wrongful-convictions-making-an-exoneree-2022/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Making an Exoneree\u003c/a>.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://gufaculty360.georgetown.edu/s/contact/00336000014RcN6AAK/marc-howard\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Marc Howard,\u003c/a> professor of government and law at Georgetown, said that since the class launched in 2018, it has contributed to the exonerations of three wrongfully convicted people out of the 25 cases it has tackled so far. He and his students typically take on five cases a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What started out as an experiment has actually turned into an extraordinary machine for justice,\" Howard said. \"We have another prison release in the coming weeks. We may have another one still this year. And we've made great progress in a number of cases where the person initially had very little hope and we've at least helped them to obtain legal counsel.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now with enhanced creative input from UC Santa Cruz on the filmmaking side for the first time this year, the schools joined forces to help get more people dealing with tough cases out of prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917031\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11917031 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A white, middled-aged woman with long, curly salt-and-pepper hair and large, black-framed glasses poses indoors in front of a framed photograph of a torn cardboard box set against a sunlit white wall. She is smiling and wears a black cardigan sweater over a dark gray T-shirt. \" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">UC Santa Cruz Film and Digital Media professor Sharon Daniel. \u003ccite>(Chloe Veltman/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"Documentary works of art in particular have a lot of power to persuade, to change people's perceptions,\" said UC Santa Cruz film and digital media professor \u003ca href=\"https://film.ucsc.edu/faculty/sharon_daniel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sharon Daniel\u003c/a>, who co-teaches the class. \"It's a way of addressing a general public, an audience that maybe doesn't know anything about what's wrong with the criminal legal system.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Daniel said she approached Georgetown about Young's case after she developed her own close friendship with him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She first got to know him from the letters he wrote as part of the Solitary Garden project. Young went on to contribute to an \u003ca href=\"https://www.unjustlyexposed.com/\">interactive documentary Daniel made in 2020 about the impact of COVID-19 on the prison system\u003c/a> (Young said he contracted the virus in 2020 and still suffers from long COVID symptoms). The two were starting to collaborate on another long-form documentary, this time about Young's case, when Daniel heard about the Georgetown class on a podcast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Daniel reached out to the professor there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"And he [Howard] could clearly see that it was the kind of case that they really like to take on with the class,\" she said. \"Really, really tough cases — cases where there seemed like there was no hope.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Cracking a tough case\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>UC Santa Cruz undergrad Allison Dean, part of the student team working on Young’s case, said she and her colleagues combed through more than 11,000 pages of legal documents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The evidence in the case was horribly mismanaged,\" she said. \"There's just so many different small pieces that led to this wrongful conviction.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917032\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11917032 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A young white woman in a black turtleneck sweater with long reddish hair smiles shoulder-to-shoulder with a young white man in a blue patterned button-down shirt, mustache and glasses, also smiling, with his right arm around her shoulders. They both look happy.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">UC Santa Cruz undergrads Allison Dean and Sullivan Gaudreault. \u003ccite>(Chloe Veltman/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Fellow undergrad Sullivan Gaudreault said the team traveled to Tulare, where the crime was committed, and surrounding cities, to conduct interviews with as many people as they could find who were involved in the original investigation and trial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We interviewed the judge who oversaw the case,\" Gaudreault said. \"We interviewed one of the lead investigators, people who knew Tim, his defense counsel.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The team also created a \u003ca href=\"https://www.timothyjamesyoung.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">website\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.change.org/p/free-tim-young?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_32847146_en-US%3A7&recruiter=1259071583&recruited_by_id=dcaf1200-af78-11ec-8660-53abd4361a7d&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial&share_bandit_exp=initial-32847146-en-US\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">petition\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/freetimyoung/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">social media campaign\u003c/a> to gather support for Young. Right now, they have more than 700 followers on \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/freetimyoung/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Instagram\u003c/a>. The immediate goal is to get pro bono legal representation for Young as he moves through an appeal process that could overturn his conviction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11904934,news_11916767,news_11882320 label='Related Stories']A legal firm is currently reviewing the students’ media campaign to decide whether to take on the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I talk to Tim almost every day,\" Dean said. \"And probably the hardest thing is when he calls and he asks for updates. And I have no updates for him.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Georgetown-UC Santa Cruz class is part of a long tradition that dates back at least to the 1990s, of college students working to free wrongfully convicted prisoners — like \u003ca href=\"https://www.northwestern.edu/magazine/northwestern/spring99/convictions.htm\">a landmark program at Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism, and Legal Clinic\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're always going to need heroic students,\" said Robert Dunham, executive director of the independent nonprofit \u003ca href=\"https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Death Penalty Information Center\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Data from the center shows just \u003ca href=\"https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence-database?state=California\">how tough it is to get someone exonerated\u003c/a>, especially in California and especially for someone on death row, where only five of the 692 people on death row have been exonerated since the early 1970s. (The state currently has a stay on executions.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There aren't enough lawyers and enough resources and enough courts with open hearts to correct all of the injustices that we see,\" Dunham said. \"So there will always be a need for people on the outside to bring attention to things that are not being corrected.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>In it for the long haul\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Though the class is over, Dean and Gaudreault both said they plan to keep on fighting for Young’s freedom for as long as it takes. And their professors said they are planning for the bi-coastal collaboration to continue, with a crop of new cases next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gaudreault said the class has inspired him to rethink his career path.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917033\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11917033 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Two young white women with long, flat hair -- one wearing a yellow scarf holding back her hair -- sit behind a video camera in a neat, clean room with a drop ceiling and fluorescent overhead lights. The walls are pink-beige with nothing but a flatscreen TV on the walls. They are dressed casually and face a man who sits facing the camera. He is white and middle-aged, with thick, neat white-and-gray hair and a white goatee. He wears dark jeans and a blue button-down shirt tucked into his jeans, knees splayed, ankles crossed, fingers interlaced in his lap. A standing light lights him from the left. The woman on the left holds a notebook on her lap and a pen in her right hand. The woman on the right, with the yellow scarf, wears jean shorts and a T-shirt and has her legs crossed and arms folded.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1281\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut-1020x681.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students re-investigated Timothy James Young's case by traveling to Tulare and interviewing as many people as they could find who were involved in the original investigation and trial. \u003ccite>(Chloe Veltman/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"For the longest time, I've been wanting to go into the marketing and advertising industry,\" he said. \"I now want to pursue a career in nonprofit work and advocacy in terms of film, helping wrongfully convicted people have a voice and tell their story through digital media.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For his part, Young said he’s grateful for the students’ friendship and support. He’s optimistic their efforts will not only get him legal help, but also raise greater awareness about the urgent need to overhaul the penal system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They have committed to the long, hard fight,\" said Young. \"That's not only a testament to the kind of people that they are, but it's a testament to the kind of relationships that we build.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Young is dreaming of the day when he can visit the UC Santa Cruz campus and his Solitary Garden in person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I want to just be in nature,\" he said. \"I want to feel the soil running through my fingers.\"\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My journey to freedom didn't necessarily begin until I was introduced to Solitary Garden and the folks at UC Santa Cruz,\" said Young, who's been the curator of the garden since its inception on campus three years ago, thanks to a nationwide public art project protesting solitary confinement created by multidisciplinary artist and prison reform activist \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Sumell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jackie Sumell\u003c/a>. The campus community does the actual gardening on Young's behalf.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917030\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11917030 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A 9-by-6-foot raised bed on a grassy hillside has in its center three-dimensional concrete shapes that resemble a bed, a toilet, and two low pillars. On the front side is a cell door, with what indoors would be floor-to-ceiling bars. Plantings surround the concrete shapes -- low green bushes and a succulent in one corner. Beyond the plot is another low grassy hillside, oak trees and, beyond that, in the distance, the ocean. \" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56607_IMG-6838-qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Solitary Garden at UC Santa Cruz. \u003ccite>(Chloe Veltman/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Sumell put Young in touch with UC Santa Cruz after he reached out to her as an admirer of her work and they struck up a correspondence. Young said he has forged deep friendships as a result of with students and faculty on campus as a result of being involved with the project. The feeling is mutual.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We want everyone to understand that this is not a relationship you can just walk away from. As long as he's in that cell, we need to continue to tend to that relationship, just as we tend the garden,\" said Rachel Nelson, who commissioned the Solitary Garden in her role as director of \u003ca href=\"https://ias.ucsc.edu/\">UC Santa Cruz's Institute of the Arts and Sciences\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Journey through the system\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Young said it's been a long journey since the day of his arrest in April 1999. He said law enforcement officers pulled him over while he was leaving an Easter celebration in the San Joaquin Valley town of Lemoore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I look around and there's like assault rifles being pointed at me from every direction, and I'm just trying to figure out what the heck is going on,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The arrest happened four years after the crime Young eventually found out he was accused of committing — the murder of five people in a bar in the nearby town of Tulare — took place. Stuck in county jail, Young said he assumed the criminal legal system would work in his favor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My initial thought was, 'Well, I'm an American. I have rights. Once we get to a preliminary hearing, this case will be dismissed,'\" Young said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917035\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 723px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11917035 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56597_sdfqvw-qut.jpg\" alt='A Black man with brown eyes, chin-length locs and a graying goatee sits backward on a red plastic chair. He wears a light-blue short-sleeved prison tunic and navy blue sweatpants; on the right leg are yellow, vertical letters spelling \"SONER\" (as if they are part of the word \"PRISONER\"). He rests the fingertips of his hands, including his thumbs, together as he leans forward against the back of the chair, looking straight at the camera with a confident smile. To his right is a white-painted barred door; he appears to be inside a cell.' width=\"723\" height=\"721\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56597_sdfqvw-qut.jpg 723w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56597_sdfqvw-qut-160x160.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Timothy James Young. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Timothy James Young)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The case went to trial despite shaky evidence and unreliable witnesses, including Anthony Wolfe, a man convicted of a felony who served as a paid informant in return for a reduced sentence for himself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In December 2005, an all-white jury convicted Young, who is Black, of murder. A month later, he was sentenced to death.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I sat thinking, 'The truth will come out. Just hang in there. This will all be exposed and it’ll all be over with,'\" Young said. \"The truth \u003ci>did\u003c/i> come out. But everybody discarded it. And so 23 years later, I'm still wrongfully imprisoned and the nightmare continues.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A growing connection to students\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In recent months, a small group of film and digital media students at UC Santa Cruz has been working to make a case for exonerating Young.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/qoDy1jgVVxo'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/qoDy1jgVVxo'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Their eight-minute documentary, \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoDy1jgVVxo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">I Am More: The Story of Tim Young\u003c/a>,\" is the centerpiece of a new collaboration with students mostly majoring in government at \u003ca href=\"https://www.georgetown.edu/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Georgetown University\u003c/a>, as part of a class there called \"\u003ca href=\"https://prisonsandjustice.georgetown.edu/news/wrongful-convictions-making-an-exoneree-2022/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Making an Exoneree\u003c/a>.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://gufaculty360.georgetown.edu/s/contact/00336000014RcN6AAK/marc-howard\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Marc Howard,\u003c/a> professor of government and law at Georgetown, said that since the class launched in 2018, it has contributed to the exonerations of three wrongfully convicted people out of the 25 cases it has tackled so far. He and his students typically take on five cases a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What started out as an experiment has actually turned into an extraordinary machine for justice,\" Howard said. \"We have another prison release in the coming weeks. We may have another one still this year. And we've made great progress in a number of cases where the person initially had very little hope and we've at least helped them to obtain legal counsel.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now with enhanced creative input from UC Santa Cruz on the filmmaking side for the first time this year, the schools joined forces to help get more people dealing with tough cases out of prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917031\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11917031 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A white, middled-aged woman with long, curly salt-and-pepper hair and large, black-framed glasses poses indoors in front of a framed photograph of a torn cardboard box set against a sunlit white wall. She is smiling and wears a black cardigan sweater over a dark gray T-shirt. \" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56604_IMG-6827-qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">UC Santa Cruz Film and Digital Media professor Sharon Daniel. \u003ccite>(Chloe Veltman/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"Documentary works of art in particular have a lot of power to persuade, to change people's perceptions,\" said UC Santa Cruz film and digital media professor \u003ca href=\"https://film.ucsc.edu/faculty/sharon_daniel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sharon Daniel\u003c/a>, who co-teaches the class. \"It's a way of addressing a general public, an audience that maybe doesn't know anything about what's wrong with the criminal legal system.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Daniel said she approached Georgetown about Young's case after she developed her own close friendship with him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She first got to know him from the letters he wrote as part of the Solitary Garden project. Young went on to contribute to an \u003ca href=\"https://www.unjustlyexposed.com/\">interactive documentary Daniel made in 2020 about the impact of COVID-19 on the prison system\u003c/a> (Young said he contracted the virus in 2020 and still suffers from long COVID symptoms). The two were starting to collaborate on another long-form documentary, this time about Young's case, when Daniel heard about the Georgetown class on a podcast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Daniel reached out to the professor there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"And he [Howard] could clearly see that it was the kind of case that they really like to take on with the class,\" she said. \"Really, really tough cases — cases where there seemed like there was no hope.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Cracking a tough case\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>UC Santa Cruz undergrad Allison Dean, part of the student team working on Young’s case, said she and her colleagues combed through more than 11,000 pages of legal documents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The evidence in the case was horribly mismanaged,\" she said. \"There's just so many different small pieces that led to this wrongful conviction.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917032\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11917032 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A young white woman in a black turtleneck sweater with long reddish hair smiles shoulder-to-shoulder with a young white man in a blue patterned button-down shirt, mustache and glasses, also smiling, with his right arm around her shoulders. They both look happy.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56603_IMG-6826-qut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">UC Santa Cruz undergrads Allison Dean and Sullivan Gaudreault. \u003ccite>(Chloe Veltman/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Fellow undergrad Sullivan Gaudreault said the team traveled to Tulare, where the crime was committed, and surrounding cities, to conduct interviews with as many people as they could find who were involved in the original investigation and trial.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We interviewed the judge who oversaw the case,\" Gaudreault said. \"We interviewed one of the lead investigators, people who knew Tim, his defense counsel.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The team also created a \u003ca href=\"https://www.timothyjamesyoung.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">website\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.change.org/p/free-tim-young?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_32847146_en-US%3A7&recruiter=1259071583&recruited_by_id=dcaf1200-af78-11ec-8660-53abd4361a7d&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial&share_bandit_exp=initial-32847146-en-US\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">petition\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/freetimyoung/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">social media campaign\u003c/a> to gather support for Young. Right now, they have more than 700 followers on \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/freetimyoung/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Instagram\u003c/a>. The immediate goal is to get pro bono legal representation for Young as he moves through an appeal process that could overturn his conviction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>A legal firm is currently reviewing the students’ media campaign to decide whether to take on the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I talk to Tim almost every day,\" Dean said. \"And probably the hardest thing is when he calls and he asks for updates. And I have no updates for him.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Georgetown-UC Santa Cruz class is part of a long tradition that dates back at least to the 1990s, of college students working to free wrongfully convicted prisoners — like \u003ca href=\"https://www.northwestern.edu/magazine/northwestern/spring99/convictions.htm\">a landmark program at Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism, and Legal Clinic\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're always going to need heroic students,\" said Robert Dunham, executive director of the independent nonprofit \u003ca href=\"https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Death Penalty Information Center\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Data from the center shows just \u003ca href=\"https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence-database?state=California\">how tough it is to get someone exonerated\u003c/a>, especially in California and especially for someone on death row, where only five of the 692 people on death row have been exonerated since the early 1970s. (The state currently has a stay on executions.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There aren't enough lawyers and enough resources and enough courts with open hearts to correct all of the injustices that we see,\" Dunham said. \"So there will always be a need for people on the outside to bring attention to things that are not being corrected.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>In it for the long haul\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Though the class is over, Dean and Gaudreault both said they plan to keep on fighting for Young’s freedom for as long as it takes. And their professors said they are planning for the bi-coastal collaboration to continue, with a crop of new cases next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gaudreault said the class has inspired him to rethink his career path.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11917033\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11917033 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Two young white women with long, flat hair -- one wearing a yellow scarf holding back her hair -- sit behind a video camera in a neat, clean room with a drop ceiling and fluorescent overhead lights. The walls are pink-beige with nothing but a flatscreen TV on the walls. They are dressed casually and face a man who sits facing the camera. He is white and middle-aged, with thick, neat white-and-gray hair and a white goatee. He wears dark jeans and a blue button-down shirt tucked into his jeans, knees splayed, ankles crossed, fingers interlaced in his lap. A standing light lights him from the left. The woman on the left holds a notebook on her lap and a pen in her right hand. The woman on the right, with the yellow scarf, wears jean shorts and a T-shirt and has her legs crossed and arms folded.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1281\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut-1020x681.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/RS56601_MAE-Tulare-Trip-Photos-16-of-55-qut-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students re-investigated Timothy James Young's case by traveling to Tulare and interviewing as many people as they could find who were involved in the original investigation and trial. \u003ccite>(Chloe Veltman/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"For the longest time, I've been wanting to go into the marketing and advertising industry,\" he said. \"I now want to pursue a career in nonprofit work and advocacy in terms of film, helping wrongfully convicted people have a voice and tell their story through digital media.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For his part, Young said he’s grateful for the students’ friendship and support. He’s optimistic their efforts will not only get him legal help, but also raise greater awareness about the urgent need to overhaul the penal system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They have committed to the long, hard fight,\" said Young. \"That's not only a testament to the kind of people that they are, but it's a testament to the kind of relationships that we build.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Young is dreaming of the day when he can visit the UC Santa Cruz campus and his Solitary Garden in person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Gov. Gavin Newsom, who three years ago placed a moratorium on executions, now is moving to dismantle the United States’ largest death row by moving all condemned inmates to other prisons within two years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The goal is to turn the section at San Quentin State Prison into a “positive, healing environment.” Newsom said Monday it’s an outgrowth of his opposition to what he believes is a deeply flawed system, one that “gets my blood boiling.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The prospect of your ending up on death row has more to do with your wealth and race than it does your guilt or innocence,” he said. “We talk about justice, we preach justice, but as a nation, we don’t practice it on death row.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Gov. Gavin Newsom\"]‘The prospect of your ending up on death row has more to do with your wealth and race than it does your guilt or innocence.’[/pullquote]California, which last carried out an execution in 2006, is one of 28 states that maintain death rows, along with the U.S. government, according to the Death Penalty Information Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While other states like Illinois have abolished executions, California is merging its condemned inmates into the general prison population with no expectation that any will face execution anytime in the near future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are starting the process of closing death row to repurpose and transform the current housing units into something innovative and anchored in rehabilitation,” California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation spokesperson Vicky Waters told The Associated Press.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oregon similarly transferred its much smaller condemned population to other inmate housing two years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom imposed a moratorium on executions in 2019 and shut down the state’s execution chamber at San Quentin, north of San Francisco. Now his administration is turning on its head a 2016 voter-approved initiative intended to expedite executions by capitalizing on one provision that allows inmates to be moved off death row.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The underlying motive of the administration is to mainstream as many of these condemned murderers as possible,” said Michael Rushford, president of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, which backed the initiative. “Our objective was to speed up the process.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He added he doesn’t think victims are happy with the administration’s decision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re moving condemned murderers into facilities that are going to make their lives better and offer them more amenities, while the victims still mourn the death of their family member,” Rushford said.\u003cbr>\n[ad fullwidth]\u003cbr>\nNewsom said voters approved the move, though he doubts many understood the provision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When they affirmed the death penalty, they also affirmed a responsibility … to actually move that population on death row out and to get them working,” Newsom said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom is “pouring more salt on the wounds of the victims,” countered Crime Victims United president Nina Salarno. “He’s usurping the law.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Actor Mike Farrell, president of the group Death Penalty Focus, which opposes the death penalty, said he is thrilled with the idea but concerned by transfers he said could turn condemned inmates into “very ripe targets” for other prisoners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re talking about people who have been in a specific kind of isolation for decades,” living with the prospect of execution, Farrell said. “To simply move them without very serious consideration of their needs, their personal issues, their psychological state and their safety would be a hideous mistake.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Mike Farrell, actor and president, Death Penalty Focus\"]‘We’re talking about people who have been in a specific kind of isolation for decades.’[/pullquote]Corrections officials began a voluntary two-year pilot program in January 2020 that as of Friday had moved 116 of the state’s 673 condemned male inmates to one of seven other prisons that have maximum security facilities and are surrounded by lethal electrified fences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They intend to submit permanent proposed regulations within weeks that would make the transfers mandatory and “allow for the repurposing of all death row housing units,” Waters said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ballot measure approved six years ago also required condemned inmates to participate in prison jobs, with 70% of the money going to restitution for their victims, and corrections officials said that’s their goal with the transfers. By the end of last year, more than $49,000 in restitution had been collected under the pilot program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s proposed budget for the fiscal year starting July 1 seeks $1.5 million to find new uses for the vacant condemned housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11900595\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/10/RS44233_GettyImages-1253314486-qut-1020x664.jpg\"]It notes that death row and its supporting activities are in the same area as facilities used for rehabilitation programs for medium-security San Quentin inmates. The money would be used to hire a consultant to “develop options for [the] space focused on creating a positive, healing environment to provide increased rehabilitative, educational and health care opportunities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Quentin’s never-used $853,000 execution chamber is in a separate area of the prison, and there are no plans to “repurpose” that area, Waters said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California voters supported the death penalty in 2012 and 2016. An advisory panel to Newsom and lawmakers, the Committee on Revision of the Penal Code, in November became the latest to recommend repealing the death penalty, calling it “beyond repair.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the state’s transfer program, condemned inmates moved to other prisons can be housed in solitary or disciplinary confinement if officials decide they cannot be safely housed with others, although they are supposed to be interspersed with other inmates. Inmates on death row are housed one to a cell, but the transferred inmates can be housed with others if it’s deemed safe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There have been no safety concerns, and no major disciplinary issues have occurred,” Waters said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label ='Related Coverage' tag='gavin-newsom']When it comes to jobs and other rehabilitation activities, condemned inmates outside death row are treated similarly to inmates serving sentences of life without parole. That includes a variety of jobs such as maintenance and administrative duties, according to prison officials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The condemned inmates are counted more often and are constantly supervised during activities, officials said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before they are moved, they are “carefully screened to determine whether they can safely participate in the program,” according to the department. 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There were lesser outbreaks at prisons near Norco, Corcoran, San Diego, Folsom and Chino.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There were nearly 400 new infections among prison employees statewide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prison officials said they have not seen an increase in hospitalizations, which have remained between one and three over the past two months statewide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The prisons lag behind the communities,” said Steve Fama, an attorney with the nonprofit Prison Law Office, which represents incarcerated people. “The virus has to skip into the prisons, literally leap into — it’s got to get over the wall, and that just takes time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The cases are a fraction of the system’s nearly 100,000 incarcerated people and nothing like the outbreaks last year, including one that sickened 75% of the people incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison north of San Francisco, killing 28 of them and a correctional officer.[aside tag=\"san-quentin\" label=\"More Related Stories\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the start of the pandemic, 245 incarcerated people and 49 corrections staff have died statewide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Corrections officials said they “continue to enforce a mask mandate for all staff, and require unvaccinated workers to wear N95 masks and submit to twice-weekly testing — twice the frequency required” by the California Department of Public Health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They also said in a statement they are “diligently resolving discrepancies in the staff COVID-19 vaccination and testing data” but can’t yet provide updated statistics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A related review by corrections officials of staff at two prisons that house the sickest people reduced the percentage of those initially listed as not complying with health rules from more than 10% to just 2% at the California Medical Facility in Vacaville and from more than 8% to about 5% at the California Health Care Facility in Stockton.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, vaccinations are lagging among contractors at those prisons, the attorneys of people incarcerated say, despite a separate requirement that all employees there be inoculated. Again there are few consequences, according to court documents, because contractors “cannot be disciplined for failing to comply.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Contractors are not state employees, but “are supposed to comply and they should not be working in the institution if they are not vaccinated,” Paul Mello, an attorney for the corrections department, said in response at a recent court hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Contractors including medical providers make up about a quarter of employees at the Vacaville prison, but only 37% are vaccinated as required.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They make up nearly 1 in 5 employees at the prison in Stockton, with 61% vaccinated. 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"content": "\u003cp>The drive west across the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge offers majestic views of San Francisco’s skyline, the Bay Bridge, and the turquoise water of San Francisco Bay. Looming in the distance is Mount Tamalpais and beautiful Marin County, known for its tony real estate and great hiking. Off to the left as the bridge touches down in Marin, right on the water, is San Quentin State Prison, California’s only death row for men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Terese O’Malley has long wondered how this famous prison came to be located in Marin County, and whether state officials have ever considered moving it.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>California’s first prison\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>San Quentin was built more than 160 years ago, just four years after California became a state. It’s the oldest prison in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When miners and other fortune seekers began flooding into San Francisco during the Gold Rush, crime spiked. Soon the jail in San Francisco was overflowing, so the authorities began locking people up on prison ships.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“San Quentin began as a private prison,” said Lieutenant Samuel Robinson, communications officer at San Quentin Prison. “It was a prison ship docked at Angel Island.” The ship was called The Waban.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state Legislature approved the purchase of 20 acres at what was then called Punta de Quentin — meaning Quentin Point — in 1852. \u003ca href=\"https://teachinprison.berkeley.edu/our-work/general-resources-2/\">The site was named for a Coast Miwok chief and warrior named Quentin\u003c/a>. The “San” came from Americans’ erroneous perception that it was a Spanish name and that all Spanish names started with “San.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state paid $10,000 — about $320,000 in today’s dollars — for the land that would become San Quentin State Prison. That might seem like a steal, but back then the area was isolated. There were no bridges and overland travel was arduous. Punta de Quentin was remote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“None of this was here,” Robinson said. “It was just hills and marshland. It was land that really no one wanted.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Waban docked near Punta de Quentin, and the inmates continued to live on board for another two years while they built the prison. They dug rocks from a quarry up the road and built the original cell block — now administrative buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888762\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11888762 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade.jpg\" alt=\"The white turret-like facade and guard toward of the prison, beyond the parking lot.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The castle-like facade of San Quentin State Prison was added in the 1890s. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Inmates on the boat were marched off the boat every day to the hills here around San Quentin, where they literally made big rocks into little rocks and they built, essentially, what has become the facade of our facility,” Robinson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since that time the prison has grown and changed. The first prisoners living on the Waban numbered between 50 and 60. Now, San Quentin houses nearly 4,000 prisoners. The prison has changed in many other ways as well, starting with its status as a privately owned facility. That meant its owner could lease the inmates’ labor out to the highest bidder, \u003ca href=\"https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=San_Quentin_Prison:_The_Origins_of_the_California_%22Corrections%22_System\">which quickly led to corruption and abuse\u003c/a>. After numerous complaints, the state took over San Quentin in 1855.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of the state’s executions take place at San Quentin. The first was back in 1893. Since then, the state has executed more than 400 people here, the last one in 2006. In 2019, Governor Gavin Newsom issued a moratorium on the death penalty. Still, more than 700 men are housed on death row at San Quentin now — awaiting an uncertain future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsSw0tjBEeM\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Inside the prison\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Entering the prison is a process. Visitors pass by a guardhouse to enter the outer layer of the complex, where the administrative buildings and staff housing are located. There was once even a school here for staff children. To get to where the inmates live, visitors pass through the prison’s original gate, a portico built wide and tall enough to fit a horse and buggy, to enter the “Plaza.” On the right is a chapel, to the left the cell blocks. Straight ahead is the hospital.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The oldest building in the complex is the dungeon, now used for storage. But the remnants of this 1850s building are thought to be the oldest public work still standing. Its history speaks of a brutal past.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888766\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 628px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11888766 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-constructing-spanish-blocks.jpg\" alt=\"Black-and-white photo of a dirt patch with buildings and a hill behind.\" width=\"628\" height=\"377\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-constructing-spanish-blocks.jpg 628w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-constructing-spanish-blocks-160x96.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 628px) 100vw, 628px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Construction of the Old Spanish Blocks. \u003ccite>(Courtesy San Quentin State Prison)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Each one of these wells had big solid black doors in front of it,” Robinson explained. “So no matter what perspective you were in, you’re securely locked away in the dark. The reason why there is no bed in there, because we’d lock a minimum of one up to six guys in a well together.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The prisoners slept on the floor. They were given three buckets, one with water and two that were empty. The dungeon hasn’t been used since 1943 when the warden at the time, Clinton Duffy, had the huge metal doors melted down so the dungeon could never be used again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The dungeon is a reminder of California’s barbarous history and is one of the oldest remaining buildings in the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Marin wasn’t really here before San Quentin,” Robinson said. “So really history in California — we’re standing on site right here at San Quentin. This is history.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Why is San Quentin still located in Marin?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>It’s pretty easy to understand how San Quentin came to be in Marin: The land was cheap, there was a deep-water port for the prison ship to dock while they built the main building, there was a quarry up the road and there was bedrock for the foundation. What’s less clear is why the state never moved the prison. It sits on valuable land and operates in an expensive region. Couldn’t the state save money by moving it somewhere cheaper and selling the land?\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888764\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 720px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11888764 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-guard-tower.jpg\" alt=\"Four black-and-white aerial photos show the parking lot, the facade, outbuildings and the bay.\" width=\"720\" height=\"576\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-guard-tower.jpg 720w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-guard-tower-160x128.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Four photos in a grid show different perspectives from guard tower No. 1 at San Quentin State Prison. \u003ccite>(Courtesy San Quentin State Prison)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It’s not so simple. The state considered a prison expansion back in 2002. Joe Nation, Marin’s state Assemblymember at the time, had some ideas for how San Quentin could be used differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I just thought there were other opportunities for it,” Nation said. “Part of it was the deep-water ferry port that I thought would make a lot of sense.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A deep-water ferry port would allow the Larkspur ferry to avoid the shallow no wake zones it currently travels through. And, Nation thought the county could connect it to the SMART train, or maybe build some much needed housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I thought if you made it a transit hub, if you made it so that people could actually live there, work there, or commute on the ferry to the East Bay or to San Francisco, that made a lot of sense,” Nation said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But no one else in the state Legislature had much enthusiasm for his ideas and there was significant local pushback. People living nearby didn’t want the noise and congestion such a project would bring. Plus, the prison is a good neighbor. It’s tucked away, with few comings and goings. Many Marin County residents don’t think much about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also, because San Quentin is located in the Bay Area, its inmates have access to more programs and services than many other prisons. And, the prison employs people in good jobs. If it moved, those jobs would leave, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to change the status quo, and the prison isn’t likely to move anytime soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, there’s a whole world going on behind walls few Bay Area residents pass through.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[emailsignup newslettername=\"baycurious\" align=\"right\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are people who have hope in a new day and a new future,” Robinson said. “[They have hope] that laws may change to benefit them, that they’ve worked to become better people themselves. And so it’s just not this place where people are sitting in the corners conniving to do bad things all the time. I think you see humanity within the walls, all aspects of it, good and bad.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recently, San Quentin has been the site of one of the deadliest outbreaks of the coronavirus in the state’s prison system. Over 2,200 people were infected — two-thirds of the prison — and 29 people died. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11865491/after-a-year-of-covid-19-outbreaks-california-prisons-reckon-with-mistakes\">The long-term effects of the outbreak are still being felt.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In April, our colleagues on the podcast \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11871338/the-lasting-impact-of-covid-19-in-san-quentin-state-prison\">The Bay interviewed a man currently incarcerated at San Quentin\u003c/a> to learn more about what it was like to live through the last year on the inside. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The drive west across the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge offers majestic views of San Francisco’s skyline, the Bay Bridge, and the turquoise water of San Francisco Bay. Looming in the distance is Mount Tamalpais and beautiful Marin County, known for its tony real estate and great hiking. Off to the left as the bridge touches down in Marin, right on the water, is San Quentin State Prison, California’s only death row for men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Terese O’Malley has long wondered how this famous prison came to be located in Marin County, and whether state officials have ever considered moving it.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>California’s first prison\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>San Quentin was built more than 160 years ago, just four years after California became a state. It’s the oldest prison in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When miners and other fortune seekers began flooding into San Francisco during the Gold Rush, crime spiked. Soon the jail in San Francisco was overflowing, so the authorities began locking people up on prison ships.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“San Quentin began as a private prison,” said Lieutenant Samuel Robinson, communications officer at San Quentin Prison. “It was a prison ship docked at Angel Island.” The ship was called The Waban.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state Legislature approved the purchase of 20 acres at what was then called Punta de Quentin — meaning Quentin Point — in 1852. \u003ca href=\"https://teachinprison.berkeley.edu/our-work/general-resources-2/\">The site was named for a Coast Miwok chief and warrior named Quentin\u003c/a>. The “San” came from Americans’ erroneous perception that it was a Spanish name and that all Spanish names started with “San.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state paid $10,000 — about $320,000 in today’s dollars — for the land that would become San Quentin State Prison. That might seem like a steal, but back then the area was isolated. There were no bridges and overland travel was arduous. Punta de Quentin was remote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“None of this was here,” Robinson said. “It was just hills and marshland. It was land that really no one wanted.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Waban docked near Punta de Quentin, and the inmates continued to live on board for another two years while they built the prison. They dug rocks from a quarry up the road and built the original cell block — now administrative buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888762\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11888762 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade.jpg\" alt=\"The white turret-like facade and guard toward of the prison, beyond the parking lot.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentinFascade-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The castle-like facade of San Quentin State Prison was added in the 1890s. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Inmates on the boat were marched off the boat every day to the hills here around San Quentin, where they literally made big rocks into little rocks and they built, essentially, what has become the facade of our facility,” Robinson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since that time the prison has grown and changed. The first prisoners living on the Waban numbered between 50 and 60. Now, San Quentin houses nearly 4,000 prisoners. The prison has changed in many other ways as well, starting with its status as a privately owned facility. That meant its owner could lease the inmates’ labor out to the highest bidder, \u003ca href=\"https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=San_Quentin_Prison:_The_Origins_of_the_California_%22Corrections%22_System\">which quickly led to corruption and abuse\u003c/a>. After numerous complaints, the state took over San Quentin in 1855.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of the state’s executions take place at San Quentin. The first was back in 1893. Since then, the state has executed more than 400 people here, the last one in 2006. In 2019, Governor Gavin Newsom issued a moratorium on the death penalty. Still, more than 700 men are housed on death row at San Quentin now — awaiting an uncertain future.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/JsSw0tjBEeM'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/JsSw0tjBEeM'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003ch3>Inside the prison\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Entering the prison is a process. Visitors pass by a guardhouse to enter the outer layer of the complex, where the administrative buildings and staff housing are located. There was once even a school here for staff children. To get to where the inmates live, visitors pass through the prison’s original gate, a portico built wide and tall enough to fit a horse and buggy, to enter the “Plaza.” On the right is a chapel, to the left the cell blocks. Straight ahead is the hospital.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The oldest building in the complex is the dungeon, now used for storage. But the remnants of this 1850s building are thought to be the oldest public work still standing. Its history speaks of a brutal past.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888766\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 628px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11888766 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-constructing-spanish-blocks.jpg\" alt=\"Black-and-white photo of a dirt patch with buildings and a hill behind.\" width=\"628\" height=\"377\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-constructing-spanish-blocks.jpg 628w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-constructing-spanish-blocks-160x96.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 628px) 100vw, 628px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Construction of the Old Spanish Blocks. \u003ccite>(Courtesy San Quentin State Prison)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Each one of these wells had big solid black doors in front of it,” Robinson explained. “So no matter what perspective you were in, you’re securely locked away in the dark. The reason why there is no bed in there, because we’d lock a minimum of one up to six guys in a well together.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The prisoners slept on the floor. They were given three buckets, one with water and two that were empty. The dungeon hasn’t been used since 1943 when the warden at the time, Clinton Duffy, had the huge metal doors melted down so the dungeon could never be used again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The dungeon is a reminder of California’s barbarous history and is one of the oldest remaining buildings in the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Marin wasn’t really here before San Quentin,” Robinson said. “So really history in California — we’re standing on site right here at San Quentin. This is history.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Why is San Quentin still located in Marin?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>It’s pretty easy to understand how San Quentin came to be in Marin: The land was cheap, there was a deep-water port for the prison ship to dock while they built the main building, there was a quarry up the road and there was bedrock for the foundation. What’s less clear is why the state never moved the prison. It sits on valuable land and operates in an expensive region. Couldn’t the state save money by moving it somewhere cheaper and selling the land?\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888764\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 720px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11888764 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-guard-tower.jpg\" alt=\"Four black-and-white aerial photos show the parking lot, the facade, outbuildings and the bay.\" width=\"720\" height=\"576\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-guard-tower.jpg 720w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/SanQuentin-guard-tower-160x128.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Four photos in a grid show different perspectives from guard tower No. 1 at San Quentin State Prison. \u003ccite>(Courtesy San Quentin State Prison)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It’s not so simple. The state considered a prison expansion back in 2002. Joe Nation, Marin’s state Assemblymember at the time, had some ideas for how San Quentin could be used differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I just thought there were other opportunities for it,” Nation said. “Part of it was the deep-water ferry port that I thought would make a lot of sense.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A deep-water ferry port would allow the Larkspur ferry to avoid the shallow no wake zones it currently travels through. And, Nation thought the county could connect it to the SMART train, or maybe build some much needed housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I thought if you made it a transit hub, if you made it so that people could actually live there, work there, or commute on the ferry to the East Bay or to San Francisco, that made a lot of sense,” Nation said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But no one else in the state Legislature had much enthusiasm for his ideas and there was significant local pushback. People living nearby didn’t want the noise and congestion such a project would bring. Plus, the prison is a good neighbor. It’s tucked away, with few comings and goings. Many Marin County residents don’t think much about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also, because San Quentin is located in the Bay Area, its inmates have access to more programs and services than many other prisons. And, the prison employs people in good jobs. If it moved, those jobs would leave, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to change the status quo, and the prison isn’t likely to move anytime soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, there’s a whole world going on behind walls few Bay Area residents pass through.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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