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The men were sentenced Friday in U.S. District Court in Charlottesville by Judge Norman Moon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All three men are from California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Daley, 26, of Torrance, was sentenced to 37 months in prison. Gillen, 25, of Redondo Beach, received a sentence of 33 months. Miselis, 30, of Lawndale, received 27 months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A fourth member of RAM, Cole Evan White, also pleaded guilty to a riot conspiracy charge and will be sentenced later. White \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11611785/free-speech-debate-should-top-dog-worker-be-out-of-job-for-attending-white-supremacist-rally\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">is a former employee of the Top Dog restaurant in Berkeley\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shortly after the violence in Charlottesville, Top Dog issued a statement saying restaurant staff had confronted White about his participation in the rally, and that White had voluntarily resigned. A tweet from Aug. 12, 2017, purports to identify White in a torch-carrying crowd at the white supremacist rally:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist/status/896423173914230784\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The four men, including White, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11696031/4-california-white-supremacists-arrested-in-connection-with-violent-charlottesville-rally\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">were indicted by a federal grand jury last October\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. Attorney Thomas Cullen said the men were motivated by \"hateful ideology.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They were not interested in peaceful protest or lawful First Amendment expression; instead, they intended to provoke and engage in street battles with those that they perceived as their enemies,\" Cullen said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Members of the California-based Rise Above Movement frequently posted photographs and videos of themselves engaging in mixed martial arts street-fighting techniques along with messages related to the white supremacy movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In court documents, prosecutors said that from March 2017 to August 2017, RAM members — including Daley, Gillen and Miselis — engaged in acts of violence at rallies and organized demonstrations in Charlottesville and in Huntington Beach and Berkeley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As part of their guilty pleas, the men acknowledged that they did not commit the acts in self-defense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorneys for Miselis and Gillen did not immediately respond to requests seeking comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Daley's attorney, Lisa Lorish, said she and lawyers for Miselis and Gillen argued that prosecutors had not proved that a hate crime sentencing enhancement should apply in their cases. Lorish said Judge Moon denied the enhancement for all three men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The post includes reporting by The Associated Press.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Three members of a white supremacist group were sentenced Friday to between two and three years in prison for punching, kicking and choking anti-racism protesters in 2017.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1563580529,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":19,"wordCount":439},"headData":{"title":"3 California Men Sentenced for Violence at Charlottesville White Nationalist Rally | KQED","description":"Three members of a white supremacist group were sentenced Friday to between two and three years in prison for punching, kicking and choking anti-racism protesters in 2017.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"3 California Men Sentenced for Violence at Charlottesville White Nationalist Rally","datePublished":"2019-07-19T23:25:24.000Z","dateModified":"2019-07-19T23:55:29.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11762553 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11762553","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/07/19/3-california-men-sentenced-for-violence-at-charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally/","disqusTitle":"3 California Men Sentenced for Violence at Charlottesville White Nationalist Rally","path":"/news/11762553/3-california-men-sentenced-for-violence-at-charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Three members of a white supremacist group were sentenced Friday to between two and three years in prison for punching, kicking and choking anti-racism protesters at a white nationalist rally in Virginia and political rallies in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Members of the now-defunct Rise Above Movement were caught on camera assaulting counterprotesters before a planned \"Unite the Right\" rally in Charlottesville in August 2017.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11611600","label":"Related Coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Benjamin Daley, Michael Miselis and Thomas Gillen each pleaded guilty to conspiracy to riot. The men were sentenced Friday in U.S. District Court in Charlottesville by Judge Norman Moon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All three men are from California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Daley, 26, of Torrance, was sentenced to 37 months in prison. Gillen, 25, of Redondo Beach, received a sentence of 33 months. Miselis, 30, of Lawndale, received 27 months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A fourth member of RAM, Cole Evan White, also pleaded guilty to a riot conspiracy charge and will be sentenced later. White \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11611785/free-speech-debate-should-top-dog-worker-be-out-of-job-for-attending-white-supremacist-rally\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">is a former employee of the Top Dog restaurant in Berkeley\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shortly after the violence in Charlottesville, Top Dog issued a statement saying restaurant staff had confronted White about his participation in the rally, and that White had voluntarily resigned. A tweet from Aug. 12, 2017, purports to identify White in a torch-carrying crowd at the white supremacist rally:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"896423173914230784"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>The four men, including White, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11696031/4-california-white-supremacists-arrested-in-connection-with-violent-charlottesville-rally\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">were indicted by a federal grand jury last October\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. Attorney Thomas Cullen said the men were motivated by \"hateful ideology.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They were not interested in peaceful protest or lawful First Amendment expression; instead, they intended to provoke and engage in street battles with those that they perceived as their enemies,\" Cullen said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Members of the California-based Rise Above Movement frequently posted photographs and videos of themselves engaging in mixed martial arts street-fighting techniques along with messages related to the white supremacy movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In court documents, prosecutors said that from March 2017 to August 2017, RAM members — including Daley, Gillen and Miselis — engaged in acts of violence at rallies and organized demonstrations in Charlottesville and in Huntington Beach and Berkeley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As part of their guilty pleas, the men acknowledged that they did not commit the acts in self-defense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorneys for Miselis and Gillen did not immediately respond to requests seeking comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Daley's attorney, Lisa Lorish, said she and lawyers for Miselis and Gillen argued that prosecutors had not proved that a hate crime sentencing enhancement should apply in their cases. Lorish said Judge Moon denied the enhancement for all three men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The post includes reporting by The Associated Press.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11762553/3-california-men-sentenced-for-violence-at-charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally","authors":["237"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_21448","news_24231","news_19216","news_21449","news_21528","news_21025"],"featImg":"news_11762566","label":"news_72"},"news_11696031":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11696031","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11696031","score":null,"sort":[1539201638000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"4-california-white-supremacists-arrested-in-connection-with-violent-charlottesville-rally","title":"4 California White Supremacists Indicted in Connection With Violent Charlottesville Rally","publishDate":1539201638,"format":"audio","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, 1:00 p.m. Wed. Oct. 10: \u003c/strong>A federal grand jury has indicted four California men on conspiracy and rioting charges in connection with a torch-lit march and a rally of white nationalists in Virginia last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. Attorney Thomas Cullen's office announced the indictment Wednesday. It came eight days after the arrest of the four defendants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prosecutors say the men were members of the Rise Above Movement, a militant white supremacist group that trains in fighting techniques.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They are accused of committing violent acts during an Aug. 11, 2017, nighttime march at the University of Virginia and during a larger rally in Charlottesville the next day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All four made initial court appearances in California last week. The press release says they're expected to be transferred to Virginia, where they will appear for arraignment and additional proceedings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original Post, Tues. Oct. 2: \u003c/strong>CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — Four members of a militant white supremacist group from California were arrested on charges of traveling to Virginia last year to incite a riot and attack counterprotesters at a white nationalist rally that turned deadly, federal authorities said Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The defendants — Benjamin Drake Daley, Michael Paul Miselis, Thomas Walter Gillen and Cole Evan White — are part of the Rise Above Movement, which espouses anti-Semitic views and meets regularly in public parks to train in boxing and other fighting techniques, according to an affidavit written by an FBI agent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The affidavit alleges the four were \"among the most violent individuals present in Charlottesville\" in August 2017 during a torch-lit march on the University of Virginia campus and a larger rally in downtown the following day. It says photos and video footage shows they attacked counterprotesters, \"which in some cases resulted in serious injuries.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The men have also taken part in \"acts of violence\" at political rallies in Huntington Beach, Berkeley and other places, the affidavit alleges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the men — Cole Evan White — \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11611785/free-speech-debate-should-top-dog-worker-be-out-of-job-for-attending-white-supremacist-rally\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">is a former employee of the Top Dog restaurant in Berkeley\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shortly after the violence in Charlottesville, Top Dog issued a statement saying restaurant staff had confronted White about his participation in the rally, and that White had voluntarily resigned. A tweet from Aug. 12, 2017 purports to identify White in a torch-carrying crowd at the white supremacist rally:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist/status/896423173914230784\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>White was also involved in previous white supremacist rallies that turned violent, according to Emily Marshall, who said she was assaulted by him at a Berkeley rally in April, 2017 after she had been punched in the face by \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11611600/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nathan Damigo\u003c/a>, a leading white nationalist in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo is not among the four men arrested this week over the violence in Charlottesville.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11611600/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run\">Californian Who Helped Lead Charlottesville Protests Used Berkeley as a Test Run\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11611600/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/20170813_NathanDamigo_Credit_BertJohnson-1-1038x576.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\"This is a group that essentially subscribes to an anti-Semitic, racist ideology, and then organizes, trains and deploys to various political rallies, not only to espouse this particular ideology but also to engage in acts of violence against folks who are taking a contrary point of view,\" U.S. Attorney Thomas Cullen said at a news conference in Charlottesville held to announce the charges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All four men were arrested early Tuesday morning, Cullen said. Three of them — Daley and Gillen, of Redondo Beach, and Miselis, of Lawndale — were expected to make initial court appearances later Tuesday, while White, of Clayton, was due in court Wednesday, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It wasn't clear if the men had attorneys who could comment on their behalf, and attempts to reach their relatives were not immediately successful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cullen said each defendant faces up to 10 years in prison if convicted on the two counts they each face: traveling to incite riots and conspiracy to riot. However, defendants often get less than the maximum under federal sentencing guidelines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The arrests come more than a year after hundreds of white nationalists descended on Charlottesville in part to protest the planned removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clashes erupted Aug. 11, 2017, as a crowd of white nationalists marching through the University of Virginia campus carrying torches and chanting racist slogans encountered a small group of counterprotesters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The following day, more violence broke out between counterprotesters and attendees of the \"Unite the Right\" rally, which was believed to be the largest gathering of white nationalists in at least a decade. Street fighting exploded before the scheduled event could begin and went on for nearly an hour in view of police until authorities forced the crowd to disperse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cullen said investigators sifted through \"an incredible volume\" of video and still photographs to review the movements of the four men and determine whether they could claim they were only defending themselves after being attacked by others at the rally. He said prosecutors believe there was \"no provocation\" for them to engage in violence that day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The four, he said, went to the rally with their hands taped, \"ready to do street battle.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then they engaged in punching, kicking, head-butting and pushing, assaulting an African-American man, two women and a minister who was wearing a clerical collar, Cullen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In our view, these four committed particularly violent acts in Charlottesville. Secondly, they committed violent acts in California at other rallies. Therefore, in our view, they were essentially serial rioters,\" Cullen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the Anti-Defamation League, Rise Above Movement members believe they are fighting against a \"modern world\" corrupted by the \"destructive cultural influences\" of liberals, Jews, Muslims and non-white immigrants. Members refer to themselves as the mixed martial arts club of the \"alt-right\" fringe movement, a loose mix of neo-Nazis, white nationalists and other far-right extremists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They very much operate like a street-fighting club,\" said Oren Segal, director of the ADL's Center on Extremism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group has roots in the racist skinhead movement in southern California, Segal said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Daley figures \"prominently\" in the organization, according to the affidavit, which also cites news organization ProPublica's efforts to identify Rise Above Movement members involved in the violence by reviewing video footage of the clashes. The news outlet reported in July that the group was founded in early 2017 and had a relatively modest core membership of 15 to 20 young men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>ProPublica and Frontline also reported in July that Miselis was a member of RAM, worked as an aerospace engineer at defense contractor Northrop Grumman's facility in Redondo Beach and held a government-issued security clearance. A company spokesman later said Miselis was no longer employed by the company but didn't say whether Miselis was fired or resigned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After authorities forced the rally to disband on Aug. 12, a woman was killed when a car that prosecutors say was driven by a man fascinated by Adolf Hitler plowed into a crowd of peaceful counterprotesters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11696058\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11696058\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"People receive first-aid at the scene where 21-year-old James Fields Jr. plowed his car into a crowd of peaceful protesters in Charlottesville on Aug. 12, 2017. Heather Heyer, 32, was killed.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">People receive first-aid at the scene where 21-year-old James Fields Jr. plowed his car into a crowd of peaceful protesters in Charlottesville on Aug. 12, 2017. Heather Heyer, 32, was killed. \u003ccite>(PAUL J. RICHARDS/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The suspected driver, 21-year-old James Fields Jr., of Maumee, Ohio, has been charged with federal hate crimes in the death of Heather Heyer, 32. Fields also faces state murder charges; his trial is scheduled to begin Nov. 26.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The death toll rose to three when a state police helicopter that had been monitoring the event crashed, killing two troopers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>President Donald Trump sparked a public outcry after he blamed both sides for the violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An independent report released three months later found serious police and government failures in responding to the mayhem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This post features reporting from Denise Lavoie and Michael Kunzelman of The Associated Press.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This post has been updated.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The four men - one of them a former employee of Top Dog in Berkeley - were allegedly ‘among the most violent individuals present in Charlottesville' during last year’s white nationalist rally that turned deadly.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1539209371,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":38,"wordCount":1308},"headData":{"title":"4 California White Supremacists Indicted in Connection With Violent Charlottesville Rally | KQED","description":"The four men - one of them a former employee of Top Dog in Berkeley - were allegedly ‘among the most violent individuals present in Charlottesville' during last year’s white nationalist rally that turned deadly.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"4 California White Supremacists Indicted in Connection With Violent Charlottesville Rally","datePublished":"2018-10-10T20:00:38.000Z","dateModified":"2018-10-10T22:09:31.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11696031 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11696031","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/10/10/4-california-white-supremacists-arrested-in-connection-with-violent-charlottesville-rally/","disqusTitle":"4 California White Supremacists Indicted in Connection With Violent Charlottesville Rally","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcr/2018/10/TCRAM20181003SepulvadoMendelsonHate2way.mp3","audioTrackLength":161,"path":"/news/11696031/4-california-white-supremacists-arrested-in-connection-with-violent-charlottesville-rally","audioDuration":163000,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, 1:00 p.m. Wed. Oct. 10: \u003c/strong>A federal grand jury has indicted four California men on conspiracy and rioting charges in connection with a torch-lit march and a rally of white nationalists in Virginia last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. Attorney Thomas Cullen's office announced the indictment Wednesday. It came eight days after the arrest of the four defendants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prosecutors say the men were members of the Rise Above Movement, a militant white supremacist group that trains in fighting techniques.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They are accused of committing violent acts during an Aug. 11, 2017, nighttime march at the University of Virginia and during a larger rally in Charlottesville the next day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All four made initial court appearances in California last week. The press release says they're expected to be transferred to Virginia, where they will appear for arraignment and additional proceedings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original Post, Tues. Oct. 2: \u003c/strong>CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — Four members of a militant white supremacist group from California were arrested on charges of traveling to Virginia last year to incite a riot and attack counterprotesters at a white nationalist rally that turned deadly, federal authorities said Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The defendants — Benjamin Drake Daley, Michael Paul Miselis, Thomas Walter Gillen and Cole Evan White — are part of the Rise Above Movement, which espouses anti-Semitic views and meets regularly in public parks to train in boxing and other fighting techniques, according to an affidavit written by an FBI agent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The affidavit alleges the four were \"among the most violent individuals present in Charlottesville\" in August 2017 during a torch-lit march on the University of Virginia campus and a larger rally in downtown the following day. It says photos and video footage shows they attacked counterprotesters, \"which in some cases resulted in serious injuries.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The men have also taken part in \"acts of violence\" at political rallies in Huntington Beach, Berkeley and other places, the affidavit alleges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the men — Cole Evan White — \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11611785/free-speech-debate-should-top-dog-worker-be-out-of-job-for-attending-white-supremacist-rally\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">is a former employee of the Top Dog restaurant in Berkeley\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shortly after the violence in Charlottesville, Top Dog issued a statement saying restaurant staff had confronted White about his participation in the rally, and that White had voluntarily resigned. A tweet from Aug. 12, 2017 purports to identify White in a torch-carrying crowd at the white supremacist rally:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"896423173914230784"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>White was also involved in previous white supremacist rallies that turned violent, according to Emily Marshall, who said she was assaulted by him at a Berkeley rally in April, 2017 after she had been punched in the face by \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11611600/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nathan Damigo\u003c/a>, a leading white nationalist in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo is not among the four men arrested this week over the violence in Charlottesville.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11611600/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run\">Californian Who Helped Lead Charlottesville Protests Used Berkeley as a Test Run\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11611600/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/20170813_NathanDamigo_Credit_BertJohnson-1-1038x576.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\"This is a group that essentially subscribes to an anti-Semitic, racist ideology, and then organizes, trains and deploys to various political rallies, not only to espouse this particular ideology but also to engage in acts of violence against folks who are taking a contrary point of view,\" U.S. Attorney Thomas Cullen said at a news conference in Charlottesville held to announce the charges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All four men were arrested early Tuesday morning, Cullen said. Three of them — Daley and Gillen, of Redondo Beach, and Miselis, of Lawndale — were expected to make initial court appearances later Tuesday, while White, of Clayton, was due in court Wednesday, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It wasn't clear if the men had attorneys who could comment on their behalf, and attempts to reach their relatives were not immediately successful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cullen said each defendant faces up to 10 years in prison if convicted on the two counts they each face: traveling to incite riots and conspiracy to riot. However, defendants often get less than the maximum under federal sentencing guidelines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The arrests come more than a year after hundreds of white nationalists descended on Charlottesville in part to protest the planned removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clashes erupted Aug. 11, 2017, as a crowd of white nationalists marching through the University of Virginia campus carrying torches and chanting racist slogans encountered a small group of counterprotesters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The following day, more violence broke out between counterprotesters and attendees of the \"Unite the Right\" rally, which was believed to be the largest gathering of white nationalists in at least a decade. Street fighting exploded before the scheduled event could begin and went on for nearly an hour in view of police until authorities forced the crowd to disperse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cullen said investigators sifted through \"an incredible volume\" of video and still photographs to review the movements of the four men and determine whether they could claim they were only defending themselves after being attacked by others at the rally. He said prosecutors believe there was \"no provocation\" for them to engage in violence that day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The four, he said, went to the rally with their hands taped, \"ready to do street battle.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then they engaged in punching, kicking, head-butting and pushing, assaulting an African-American man, two women and a minister who was wearing a clerical collar, Cullen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"In our view, these four committed particularly violent acts in Charlottesville. Secondly, they committed violent acts in California at other rallies. Therefore, in our view, they were essentially serial rioters,\" Cullen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the Anti-Defamation League, Rise Above Movement members believe they are fighting against a \"modern world\" corrupted by the \"destructive cultural influences\" of liberals, Jews, Muslims and non-white immigrants. Members refer to themselves as the mixed martial arts club of the \"alt-right\" fringe movement, a loose mix of neo-Nazis, white nationalists and other far-right extremists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They very much operate like a street-fighting club,\" said Oren Segal, director of the ADL's Center on Extremism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group has roots in the racist skinhead movement in southern California, Segal said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Daley figures \"prominently\" in the organization, according to the affidavit, which also cites news organization ProPublica's efforts to identify Rise Above Movement members involved in the violence by reviewing video footage of the clashes. The news outlet reported in July that the group was founded in early 2017 and had a relatively modest core membership of 15 to 20 young men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>ProPublica and Frontline also reported in July that Miselis was a member of RAM, worked as an aerospace engineer at defense contractor Northrop Grumman's facility in Redondo Beach and held a government-issued security clearance. A company spokesman later said Miselis was no longer employed by the company but didn't say whether Miselis was fired or resigned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After authorities forced the rally to disband on Aug. 12, a woman was killed when a car that prosecutors say was driven by a man fascinated by Adolf Hitler plowed into a crowd of peaceful counterprotesters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11696058\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11696058\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"People receive first-aid at the scene where 21-year-old James Fields Jr. plowed his car into a crowd of peaceful protesters in Charlottesville on Aug. 12, 2017. Heather Heyer, 32, was killed.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/CarCharlottesvilleScene-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">People receive first-aid at the scene where 21-year-old James Fields Jr. plowed his car into a crowd of peaceful protesters in Charlottesville on Aug. 12, 2017. Heather Heyer, 32, was killed. \u003ccite>(PAUL J. RICHARDS/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The suspected driver, 21-year-old James Fields Jr., of Maumee, Ohio, has been charged with federal hate crimes in the death of Heather Heyer, 32. Fields also faces state murder charges; his trial is scheduled to begin Nov. 26.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The death toll rose to three when a state police helicopter that had been monitoring the event crashed, killing two troopers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>President Donald Trump sparked a public outcry after he blamed both sides for the violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An independent report released three months later found serious police and government failures in responding to the mayhem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This post features reporting from Denise Lavoie and Michael Kunzelman of The Associated Press.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This post has been updated.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11696031/4-california-white-supremacists-arrested-in-connection-with-violent-charlottesville-rally","authors":["237"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_129","news_21448","news_24231","news_1323","news_4273","news_19216","news_21456","news_21528","news_21025"],"featImg":"news_11696050","label":"news_72"},"news_11612977":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11612977","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11612977","score":null,"sort":[1503102403000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"charlottesville-fallout-congressman-adam-schiff-meet-chancellor-carol-christ","title":"Charlottesville Fallout, Congressman Adam Schiff, Meet Chancellor Carol Christ","publishDate":1503102403,"format":"video","headTitle":"KQED Newsroom | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":7052,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charlottesville Fallout\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Steve Bannon was removed today from his post as White House strategist, ending his highly controversial career at the center of the Trump administration. In the wake of the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, San Francisco city officials are calling on the National Park Service to revoke its permit for a right-wing rally later this month at Crissy Field. In Washington, Republican lawmakers find themselves once again weighing the costs of remaining loyal to President Trump after his controversial comments about white supremacists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guests:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli> Lanhee Chen, Hoover Institution\u003c/li>\n\u003cli> Carla Marinucci, senior Politico reporter\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Congressman Adam Schiff\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Burbank) joins us in studio to talk about the fallout from Charlottesville, the latest developments on North Korea and his committee’s Russia investigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Meet Chancellor Carol Christ\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week was orientation for thousands of freshmen at UC Berkeley. It’s also the start of the year for Carol Christ\u003cstrong>,\u003c/strong> Cal’s first female chancellor. Christ discusses her goals for the university, from balancing the budget to protecting free speech.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"San Francisco city officials are hoping to block a right wing rally later this month at Crissy Field.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1508888302,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":9,"wordCount":195},"headData":{"title":"Charlottesville Fallout, Congressman Adam Schiff, Meet Chancellor Carol Christ | KQED","description":"San Francisco city officials are hoping to block a right wing rally later this month at Crissy Field.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Charlottesville Fallout, Congressman Adam Schiff, Meet Chancellor Carol Christ","datePublished":"2017-08-19T00:26:43.000Z","dateModified":"2017-10-24T23:38:22.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11612977 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11612977","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/18/charlottesville-fallout-congressman-adam-schiff-meet-chancellor-carol-christ/","disqusTitle":"Charlottesville Fallout, Congressman Adam Schiff, Meet Chancellor Carol Christ","videoEmbed":"https://youtu.be/Metc2ek6OGk","path":"/news/11612977/charlottesville-fallout-congressman-adam-schiff-meet-chancellor-carol-christ","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charlottesville Fallout\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Steve Bannon was removed today from his post as White House strategist, ending his highly controversial career at the center of the Trump administration. In the wake of the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, San Francisco city officials are calling on the National Park Service to revoke its permit for a right-wing rally later this month at Crissy Field. In Washington, Republican lawmakers find themselves once again weighing the costs of remaining loyal to President Trump after his controversial comments about white supremacists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guests:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli> Lanhee Chen, Hoover Institution\u003c/li>\n\u003cli> Carla Marinucci, senior Politico reporter\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Congressman Adam Schiff\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Burbank) joins us in studio to talk about the fallout from Charlottesville, the latest developments on North Korea and his committee’s Russia investigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Meet Chancellor Carol Christ\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week was orientation for thousands of freshmen at UC Berkeley. It’s also the start of the year for Carol Christ\u003cstrong>,\u003c/strong> Cal’s first female chancellor. Christ discusses her goals for the university, from balancing the budget to protecting free speech.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11612977/charlottesville-fallout-congressman-adam-schiff-meet-chancellor-carol-christ","authors":["236"],"programs":["news_7052"],"categories":["news_18540","news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_20716","news_1759","news_20156","news_21448","news_21495","news_18797","news_4593","news_20297","news_19177","news_2166","news_21447","news_20279","news_38","news_20614","news_20198","news_20452","news_797","news_17597","news_21025"],"featImg":"news_11613043","label":"news_7052"},"news_11612119":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11612119","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11612119","score":null,"sort":[1502839260000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"theres-blame-on-both-sides-trump-backtracks-on-charlottesville-violence","title":"Another Reversal: Trump Now Says Counterprotesters Also to Blame for Charlottesville","publishDate":1502839260,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Updated at 7:26 p.m. ET\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a stunning reversal from comments he made just one day prior, President Trump said on Tuesday \"there's blame on both sides\" for the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Monday, Trump \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/08/14/543418468/trump-calls-out-kkk-white-supremacists-after-charlottesville-racism-is-evil\">specifically called out\u003c/a> the KKK, neo-Nazis and white supremacists in a choreographed statement read at the White House — but that was two days after his initial statement on the protests, for which he was criticized for not condemning those groups and instead cited violence \"on many sides.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, Trump was back home at Trump Tower in New York City and took questions from reporters in an impromptu, highly combative press conference that was expected to be limited to statements by the president and members of his Cabinet about infrastructure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"zsto44GuCm8d6AsapJwZIM37wQnytwJj\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, he returned to equating the demonstrators — who came to the college town to protest the planned removal of \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/08/14/543387021/sitting-26-feet-high-atop-a-horse-gen-lee-becomes-a-lightning-rod-for-discontent\">a statue of Robert E. Lee\u003c/a>, the Confederate general, donning Confederate flags and swastikas, some carrying guns and shields, chanting \"blood and soil\" and \"Jews will not replace us\" — with counterprotesters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I'm not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I'm saying is this — you had a group on one side, and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and it was horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch,\" Trump said. \"But there is another side. There was a group on this side, you can call them the left, you've just called them the left, that came, violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that's the way it is.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump also pointed out that the \"Unite the Right\" rally had received a permit from the city for their demonstration, while \"the other group didn't have a permit.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11612163\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11612163\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85-800x532.jpg\" alt='Hundreds of white nationalists, neo-Nazis and members of the \"alt-right\" march toward Emancipation Park during the \"Unite the Right\" rally on Aug. 12 in Charlottesville, Va.' width=\"800\" height=\"532\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85-375x249.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85-520x346.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hundreds of white nationalists, neo-Nazis and members of the \"alt-right\" march toward Emancipation Park during the \"Unite the Right\" rally on Aug. 12 in Charlottesville, Virginia. \u003ccite>(Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"So I only tell you this. There are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country. A horrible moment. But there are two sides,\" the president said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"OK, what about the alt-left that came charging ... at the, as you say, the alt-right? Do they have any semblance of guilt? Let me ask you this, what about the fact they came charging, that they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? Do they have any problem? I think they do,\" the president added. \"As far as I'm concerned, that was a horrible, horrible day.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"TWX2DFJbLen1AWqPuS6VRa8VmgQe0PVt\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And he also equated Confederate statues with ones of slaveholding Founding Fathers and former presidents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Are we going to take down statues of George Washington? How 'bout Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him? OK, good,\" Trump argued. \"Are we going to take down the statue because he was a major slave-owner? Now we're going to take down his statue. So you know what, it's fine. You're changing history, you're changing culture.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The gathering of white nationalists over the weekend in Charlottesville resulted in multiple injuries and the death of 32-year-old Heather Heyer, who was killed after a car rammed into a group of counterprotesters. The suspect \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/08/14/543414086/charlottesville-suspect-to-remain-in-jail-after-first-court-appearance\">has been denied bond\u003c/a> and charged with second-degree murder.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump said he hadn't called Heyer's family yet but that he would soon. He thanked her mother for a \u003ca href=\"http://thehill.com/homenews/news/346504-charlottesville-victims-mother-thanks-trump-for-denouncing-those-who-promote\">\"beautiful statement\"\u003c/a> that was \"really terrific\" in response to his comments Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of the suspect, 20-year-old James Alex Fields Jr., Trump said he was a \"murderer and what he did was a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing.\" But he didn't call it domestic terrorism, \u003ca href=\"http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-atty-gen-jeff-sessions-defends-1502711456-htmlstory.html\">as Attorney General Jeff Sessions\u003c/a> did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"JgHlpMk06q7Fx2XkbA9K3IBrU2BA39l8\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump also took particular umbrage at the idea that he had waited too long to condemn the hate groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct. Not make a quick statement,\" the president said. \"The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement. But you don't make statements that direct unless you know the facts. It takes a little while to get the facts. You still don't know the facts. And it's a very, very important process to me. ... I want to know the facts.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, in the past Trump has rarely shown restraint when responding to tragedies like the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Florida, when he \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/742034549232766976?lang=en\">tweeted\u003c/a> \"Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism,\" and terrorist attacks in London earlier this year, when he \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/871328428963901440?lang=en\">criticized\u003c/a> the city's mayor's response. Back in 2011, he began peddling the false birther conspiracy against former President Barack Obama, at one point tweeting that \"An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud\" He has made plenty of \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/01/27/511216062/president-trumps-tweets-annotated\">false\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/03/27/521441490/fact-check-trump-says-obamacare-is-exploding-its-not\">statements\u003c/a> just since entering the Oval Office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the press conference, former KKK grand wizard David Duke \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/897559892164304896\">thanked the president\u003c/a> on Twitter for his \"honesty and courage\" and for being willing to \"condemn\" Black Lives Matter and anti-fascists (whom Trump did not name).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/897559892164304896\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump faced widespread criticism for what was seen as an insufficient statement about the events on Saturday. Seeming to bow to those critiques on Monday, he delivered a new statement and placed blame on white supremacist groups. But after his apparent walkback on Tuesday, some GOP leaders spoke out again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We must be clear. White supremacy is repulsive. This bigotry is counter to all this country stands for. There can be no moral ambiguity,\" House Speaker Paul Ryan \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/SpeakerRyan/status/897579093184610305\">tweeted\u003c/a>, apparently in reference to Trump's remarks, although he didn't mention the president by name.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't understand what's so hard about this. White supremacists and Neo-Nazis are evil and shouldn't be defended,\" National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Steve Stivers, R-Ohio, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/RepSteveStivers/status/897586719045947392\">tweeted\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., said on CNN that he \"tried to give [Trump] the benefit of the doubt, for just saying the words yesterday. But he just couldn't move on. I think the residents of Charlottesville will be extremely disappointed but not surprised.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbOr0WlA4SI\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Read a transcript of the president remarks: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Hello everybody. Great to be back in New York with all of our friends and some great friends outside the building, I must tell you. I want to thank all of our distinguished guests who are with us today, including members of our cabinet, treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin, OMB director Mick Mulvaney and of course our transportation secretary, who is doing a fabulous, job Elaine Chao. Thank you all for doing a really incredible and creative job on what we're going to be discussing today, which is infrastructure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We've just had a great set of briefings upstairs on our infrastructure agenda. My administration is working every day to deliver the world class infrastructure that our people deserve and frankly, that our country deserves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's why I just signed a new executive order to dramatically reform the nation's badly broken infrastructure permitting process. Just blocks away is the Empire State Building. It took 11 months to build the Empire State Building. But today it could take as long as a decade and much more than that. Many many stores where it takes 20 and 25 years just to get approvals to start construction of a fairly routine highway. Highway builders must get up to 16 different approvals involving nine different federal agencies, governed by 29 different statutes. One agency alone can stall a project for many many years and even decades. Not only does this cost economy billions of dollars but it also denies our citizens the safe and modern infrastructure they deserve. This overregulated permitting process is a massive self-inflicted wound on our country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's disgraceful. Denying our people much needed investments in their community and I just want to show you this, because it was just shown [to] me and I [said], I think I'm going to show it to the media, both real and fake media. by the way. This is what it takes to get something approved today. Elaine, you see that? So this is what it takes — permitting process flowchart. That's a flowchart.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So that can go out to 20 years, this shows about 10. But that could go out to about 20 years to get something approved. This is for a highway. I've seen a highway recently in a certain state, I won't mention its name, it's 17 years. I could have built it for four or five million dollars without the permitting process. It cost hundreds of millions of dollars but it took 17 years to get it approved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And many many many many pages of environmental impact studies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is what we will bring it down to. This is less than two years. This is going to happen quickly. That's what I'm signing today. This will be less than two years for a highway. So it's going to be quick. It's going to be a very streamlined process. And by the way, if it doesn't meet environmental safeguards, we're not going to approve it. Very simple.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We're not going to approve it. So maybe this one will say ... let's throw the other one away. Would anybody like it from the media? Would anybody like that long beautiful chart? You can have it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So my executive order also requires agencies to work together efficiently by requiring one lead agency for each major infrastructure project. It also holds agencies accountable if they fail to streamline their review process. So each agency is accountable. We're going to get infrastructure built quickly, inexpensively, relatively speaking, and the permitting process will go very very quickly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No longer will we tolerate one job killing delay after another. No longer will we accept a broken system that benefits consultants and lobbyists at the expense of hardworking Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now I knew the process very well, probably better than anybody. I had to get permits for this building and many of the buildings I built — all of the buildings I built in Manhattan and many other places.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And I will tell you that the consultants are rich people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They go around making it very difficult. They lobby Congress, they lobby state governments, city governments, to make it very difficult so that you have to hire consultants and that you have to take years and pay them a fortune.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So we're streamlining the process had we won't be having so much of that anymore. No longer will we allow the infrastructure of our magnificent country to crumble and decay. While protecting the environment, we will build gleaming new roads, bridges, railways, waterways, tunnels and highways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We will rebuild our country with American workers, American iron, American aluminum, American steel. We will create millions of new jobs and make millions of American dreams come true. Our infrastructure will again be the best in the world. We used to have the greatest infrastructure anywhere in the world. And today we're like a third world country. We are literally like a third world country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our infrastructure will again be the best and we will restore the pride in our communities, our nation, and all over the United States we'll be proud again. So I want to thank everybody for being here. God bless you. God bless the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you have any questions, we have — Mick, you could come up here please. Come on up. Mick Mulvaney. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Why do you think these CEOs are leaving your manufacturing council?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Because they're not taking their job seriously as it pertains to this country. We want jobs, manufacturing in this country. If you look at some of those people that you're talking about, they're outside of the country, they're having a lot of their product made outside. If you look at Merck as an example, take a look where, excuse me. Excuse me. Take a look at where their product is made. It's made outside of our country. We want products made in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now I have to tell you, some of the folks that will leave, they're leaving out of embarrassment because they make their products outside. And I've been lecturing them, including the gentleman that you're referring to, about you have to bring it back to this country. You can't do it necessarily in Ireland and all of these other places, you have to bring this work back to this country. That's what I want. I want manufacturing to be back into the United States so that American workers can benefit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Why did you wait so long to blast Neo Nazis?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I didn't wait long. I didn't wait long. I didn't wait long. I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct. Not make a quick statement. The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement. But you don't make statements that direct unless you know the fact. It takes a little while to get the facts. You still don't know the facts. And it's a very, very important process to me. And it's a very important statement. So I don't want to go quickly and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement. I want to know the facts —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you go back to my ... in fact, I brought it. I brought it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As I said on, remember this, on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms, this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. It has no place in America. And then I went on from there. Now here's the thing --\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Excuse me. Excuse me. Take it nice and easy. Here's the thing. When I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts. This event just happened. In fact, a lot of the event didn't even happen yet, as we were speaking. This event just happened. Before I make a statement, I need the facts. So I don't want to rush into a statement. So making the statement when I made it was excellent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, the young woman, who I hear is a fantastic young woman, and it was on NBC, her mother wrote me and said through, I guess Twitter, social media, the nicest things. And I very much appreciated that. I hear she was a fine, really actually an incredible young woman. But her mother on Twitter thanked me for what I said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And honestly, if the press were not fake, and if it was honest, the press would have said what I said was very nice. But unlike you —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But unlike you and unlike the media, before I make a statement, I like to know the facts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: The CEO of Wal Mart said you missed a critical opportunity to help bring the country together. Did you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Not at all. I think the country, look, you take a look, I've created over a million jobs since I'm president, the country is booming, the stock market is setting records, we have the highest employment numbers we've ever had in the history of our country, we're doing record business. We have the highest levels of enthusiasm. So the head of Wal Mart — who I know, who is very nice guy – was making a political statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>... I want to make sure, when I make a statement, that the statement is correct. And there was no way, there was no way of making a correct statement that early. I had to see the facts, unlike a lot of REPORTERs. Unlike a lot of REPORTERs -\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I didn't know David Duke was there. I wanted to see the facts. And the facts as they started coming out were very well stated. In fact, everybody said, his statement was beautiful, if he would have made it sooner, that would have been good. I couldn't have made it sooner because I didn't know all of the facts. Frankly, people still don't know all of the facts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Excuse me. Excuse me. It was very important to me to get the facts out and correctly. Because if I would have made a fast statement, and the first statement was made without knowing much other than what we were seeing. The second statement was made after, with knowledge, with great knowledge. There's still things. Excuse me. There's still things that people don't know. I want to make a statement with knowledge. I wanted to know the states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Was this terrorism?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: The driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family and this country. And that is, you can call it terrorism, you can call it murder, you can call it whatever you want. I would just call it as the fastest one to come up with a good verdict. That's what I'd call it. Because there is a question: Is it murder, is it terrorism? And then you get into legal semantics. The driver of the car is a murderer and what he did was a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Do you still have confidence in Steve Bannon?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Look, look. I like Mr. Bannon. He's a friend of mine. But, Mr. Bannon came on very late, you know that. I went through 17 senators, governors and I won all the primaries. Mr. Bannon came on very much later than that. And I like him, he's a good man, he is not a racist, I can tell you that. He's a good person. He actually gets a very unfair press in that regard. But we'll see what happens with Mr. Bannon but he's a good person and I think the press treats him frankly very unfairly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<Reporter and Trump crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Senator McCain has called on you to defend your national security advisor H. R. McMaster against some of these attacks —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I've already done that. I did it the last time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: And he called on it again —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Senator McCain? Senator McCain? You mean the one who voted against Obamacare? Who is Senator? You mean Senator McCain who voted against us getting good health care?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Senator McCain said that the alt right is behind these attacks and he linked that same group to those who perpetrated the attack in Charlottesville —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Well, I don't know. I can't tell you. I'm sure Senator McCain must know what he's talking about. But when you say the alt right, define alt right to me. You define it. No you define it for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Sen. McCain defined them as —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Ok what about the alt left that came charging — excuse me. What about the alt left that came charging at the, as you say, the alt right? Do they have any semblance of guilt? Let me ask you this, what about the fact they came charging, that they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? Do they have any problem? I think they do. As far as I'm concerned, that was a horrible, horrible day. Wait a minute, I'm not finished. I'm not finished, fake news.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That was a horrible day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I will tell you something. I watched those very closely. Much more closely than you people watched it. And you have, you had a group on one side that was bad. And you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. And nobody wants to say that. But I'll say it right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You had a group, you had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit and they were very, very violent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Do you think that what you call the alt left is the same as neo Nazis?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: All of those people — excuse me. I've condemned neo Nazis. I've condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee. So. Excuse me. And you take a look at some of the groups, and you see and you'd know it if you were honest REPORTERs, which in many cases you're not, but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, this week it's Robert E. Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson's coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week and is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But they were there to protest, excuse me, you take a look the night before, they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. Infrastructure question, go ahead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Should statues of Robert E. Lee stay up?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I would say that's up to a local town, community or the federal government depending on where it is located.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: ... race relations in America and do you think things have gotten worse or better since you took office?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I think they've gotten better or the same. Look, they've been frayed for a long time. And you can ask President Obama about that because he'd make speeches about it. But I believe that the fact that I brought in, it will be soon, millions of jobs, you see where companies are moving back into our country, I think that's going to have a tremendous positive impact on race relations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We have companies coming back into our country. We have two car companies that just announced, we have FoxConn in Wisconsin just announced. We have many companies, I say pouring back into the country. I think that's going to have a huge, positive impact on race relations. You know why? It's jobs. What people want now, they want jobs. They want great jobs with good pay. And when they have that, you watch how race relations will be. And I'll tell you, we're spending a lot of money on the inner cities. We're fixing the inner cities. We're doing far more than anybody's done with respect to the inner cities. It's a priority for me. And it's very important.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Are you putting what you're calling the alt left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I'm not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I'm saying is this. You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other and they came at each other with clubs and it was viscous and it was horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch. But there is another side. There was a group on this side, you can call them the left, you've just called them the left, that came, violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that's the way it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Well, I do think there's blame, yes, I think there's blame on both sides. You look at both sides. I think there's blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it. And you don't have any doubt about it either. And, and if you reported it accurately, you would say it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Excuse me. You had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group, excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park, from Robert E. Lee to another name.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>George Washington was a slave-owner. Was George Washington a slave-owner? So will George Washington now lose his status — are we going to take down — excuse me. Are we going to take down statues of George Washington? How 'bout Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him? OK, good. Are we going to take down the statue because he was a major slave-owner? Now we're going to take down his statue. So you know what, it's fine. You're changing history, you're changing culture. And you had people, and I'm not talking about the neo Nazis or the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo Nazis and white nationalists, OK? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You got a lot of bad people in the other group, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: You said the press has treated white nationalists unfairly?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: No. There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before, if you look, they were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I'm sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people. Neo Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest. Because I don't know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn't have a permit. So I only tell you this, there are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country. A horrible moment. But there are two sides.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Does anybody have a final —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: What makes you think you can get an infrastructure bill, you didn't get health care –\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Well, you know, I'll tell you. We came very close with health care. Unfortunately, John McCain decided to vote against it at the last minute. You'll have to ask John McCain why he did that. But we came very close to health care. We will end up getting health care but we'll get the infrastructure and actually infrastructure is something that I think will have bipartisan support on. I actually think Democrats will go along with the infrastructure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Have you spoken to the family of the victim of the car attack?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: No, I'll be reaching out. I'll be reaching out. I was very, I thought that the statement put out — the mother's statement — I thought was a beautiful statement. I will tell you, it was something that I really appreciated. I thought it was terrific and really under the kind of stress that she's under and the heartache that she's under, I thought putting out that statement to me was really something I won't forget.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thank you all very much. Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<side conversation with reporters>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Will you go to Charlottesville?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I own a house in Charlottesville. Does anyone know I own a house in Charlottesville?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Where is it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Oh boy. It's in Charlottesville, you'll see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Is it near the winery?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: It is the winery. I mean, I know a lot about Charlottesville. Charlottesville is a great place. It's been very badly hurt over the last couple of days. I own actually one of the largest wineries in the United States. It's in Charlottesville.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: What do you think needs to be done to overcome the racial divide?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Well, I really think jobs going to have a big impact. I think if we continue to create jobs — over a million, substantially more than a million — and you see just the other day the car companies coming in, I think if we continue to create jobs at levels that I'm creating jobs, I think that's going to have a tremendous impact, a positive impact, on race relations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Because the people are going to be working, they're going to be making a lot of money, much more money than they ever thought possible. And the other thing, very important, I believe wages will start going up. They haven't gone up for a long time. I believe wages now, because the economy is doing so well with respect to employment and unemployment, I believe wages will start to go up. I think that will have a tremendously positive impact on race relations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2017 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Another+Reversal%3A+Trump+Now+Says+Counterprotesters+Also+To+Blame+For+Charlottesville&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The remarks come a day after he called out neo-Nazis and the KKK for the violence in Virginia over the weekend. Trump had been criticized for not mentioning those groups in his initial statement.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1502843715,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":125,"wordCount":5073},"headData":{"title":"Another Reversal: Trump Now Says Counterprotesters Also to Blame for Charlottesville | KQED","description":"The remarks come a day after he called out neo-Nazis and the KKK for the violence in Virginia over the weekend. 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Lee\u003c/a>, the Confederate general, donning Confederate flags and swastikas, some carrying guns and shields, chanting \"blood and soil\" and \"Jews will not replace us\" — with counterprotesters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I'm not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I'm saying is this — you had a group on one side, and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and it was horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch,\" Trump said. \"But there is another side. There was a group on this side, you can call them the left, you've just called them the left, that came, violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that's the way it is.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump also pointed out that the \"Unite the Right\" rally had received a permit from the city for their demonstration, while \"the other group didn't have a permit.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11612163\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11612163\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85-800x532.jpg\" alt='Hundreds of white nationalists, neo-Nazis and members of the \"alt-right\" march toward Emancipation Park during the \"Unite the Right\" rally on Aug. 12 in Charlottesville, Va.' width=\"800\" height=\"532\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85-375x249.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/gettyimages-830755842_custom-084489540e2f2d6c72c1eb0752b96c45017abbac-s800-c85-520x346.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hundreds of white nationalists, neo-Nazis and members of the \"alt-right\" march toward Emancipation Park during the \"Unite the Right\" rally on Aug. 12 in Charlottesville, Virginia. \u003ccite>(Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"So I only tell you this. There are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country. A horrible moment. But there are two sides,\" the president said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"OK, what about the alt-left that came charging ... at the, as you say, the alt-right? Do they have any semblance of guilt? Let me ask you this, what about the fact they came charging, that they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? Do they have any problem? I think they do,\" the president added. \"As far as I'm concerned, that was a horrible, horrible day.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And he also equated Confederate statues with ones of slaveholding Founding Fathers and former presidents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Are we going to take down statues of George Washington? How 'bout Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him? OK, good,\" Trump argued. \"Are we going to take down the statue because he was a major slave-owner? Now we're going to take down his statue. So you know what, it's fine. You're changing history, you're changing culture.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The gathering of white nationalists over the weekend in Charlottesville resulted in multiple injuries and the death of 32-year-old Heather Heyer, who was killed after a car rammed into a group of counterprotesters. The suspect \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/08/14/543414086/charlottesville-suspect-to-remain-in-jail-after-first-court-appearance\">has been denied bond\u003c/a> and charged with second-degree murder.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump said he hadn't called Heyer's family yet but that he would soon. He thanked her mother for a \u003ca href=\"http://thehill.com/homenews/news/346504-charlottesville-victims-mother-thanks-trump-for-denouncing-those-who-promote\">\"beautiful statement\"\u003c/a> that was \"really terrific\" in response to his comments Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of the suspect, 20-year-old James Alex Fields Jr., Trump said he was a \"murderer and what he did was a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing.\" But he didn't call it domestic terrorism, \u003ca href=\"http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-atty-gen-jeff-sessions-defends-1502711456-htmlstory.html\">as Attorney General Jeff Sessions\u003c/a> did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump also took particular umbrage at the idea that he had waited too long to condemn the hate groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct. Not make a quick statement,\" the president said. \"The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement. But you don't make statements that direct unless you know the facts. It takes a little while to get the facts. You still don't know the facts. And it's a very, very important process to me. ... I want to know the facts.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, in the past Trump has rarely shown restraint when responding to tragedies like the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Florida, when he \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/742034549232766976?lang=en\">tweeted\u003c/a> \"Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism,\" and terrorist attacks in London earlier this year, when he \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/871328428963901440?lang=en\">criticized\u003c/a> the city's mayor's response. Back in 2011, he began peddling the false birther conspiracy against former President Barack Obama, at one point tweeting that \"An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud\" He has made plenty of \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/01/27/511216062/president-trumps-tweets-annotated\">false\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/03/27/521441490/fact-check-trump-says-obamacare-is-exploding-its-not\">statements\u003c/a> just since entering the Oval Office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the press conference, former KKK grand wizard David Duke \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/897559892164304896\">thanked the president\u003c/a> on Twitter for his \"honesty and courage\" and for being willing to \"condemn\" Black Lives Matter and anti-fascists (whom Trump did not name).\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"897559892164304896"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Trump faced widespread criticism for what was seen as an insufficient statement about the events on Saturday. Seeming to bow to those critiques on Monday, he delivered a new statement and placed blame on white supremacist groups. But after his apparent walkback on Tuesday, some GOP leaders spoke out again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We must be clear. White supremacy is repulsive. This bigotry is counter to all this country stands for. There can be no moral ambiguity,\" House Speaker Paul Ryan \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/SpeakerRyan/status/897579093184610305\">tweeted\u003c/a>, apparently in reference to Trump's remarks, although he didn't mention the president by name.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't understand what's so hard about this. White supremacists and Neo-Nazis are evil and shouldn't be defended,\" National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Steve Stivers, R-Ohio, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/RepSteveStivers/status/897586719045947392\">tweeted\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., said on CNN that he \"tried to give [Trump] the benefit of the doubt, for just saying the words yesterday. But he just couldn't move on. I think the residents of Charlottesville will be extremely disappointed but not surprised.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/BbOr0WlA4SI'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/BbOr0WlA4SI'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Read a transcript of the president remarks: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Hello everybody. Great to be back in New York with all of our friends and some great friends outside the building, I must tell you. I want to thank all of our distinguished guests who are with us today, including members of our cabinet, treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin, OMB director Mick Mulvaney and of course our transportation secretary, who is doing a fabulous, job Elaine Chao. Thank you all for doing a really incredible and creative job on what we're going to be discussing today, which is infrastructure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We've just had a great set of briefings upstairs on our infrastructure agenda. My administration is working every day to deliver the world class infrastructure that our people deserve and frankly, that our country deserves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's why I just signed a new executive order to dramatically reform the nation's badly broken infrastructure permitting process. Just blocks away is the Empire State Building. It took 11 months to build the Empire State Building. But today it could take as long as a decade and much more than that. Many many stores where it takes 20 and 25 years just to get approvals to start construction of a fairly routine highway. Highway builders must get up to 16 different approvals involving nine different federal agencies, governed by 29 different statutes. One agency alone can stall a project for many many years and even decades. Not only does this cost economy billions of dollars but it also denies our citizens the safe and modern infrastructure they deserve. This overregulated permitting process is a massive self-inflicted wound on our country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's disgraceful. Denying our people much needed investments in their community and I just want to show you this, because it was just shown [to] me and I [said], I think I'm going to show it to the media, both real and fake media. by the way. This is what it takes to get something approved today. Elaine, you see that? So this is what it takes — permitting process flowchart. That's a flowchart.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So that can go out to 20 years, this shows about 10. But that could go out to about 20 years to get something approved. This is for a highway. I've seen a highway recently in a certain state, I won't mention its name, it's 17 years. I could have built it for four or five million dollars without the permitting process. It cost hundreds of millions of dollars but it took 17 years to get it approved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And many many many many pages of environmental impact studies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is what we will bring it down to. This is less than two years. This is going to happen quickly. That's what I'm signing today. This will be less than two years for a highway. So it's going to be quick. It's going to be a very streamlined process. And by the way, if it doesn't meet environmental safeguards, we're not going to approve it. Very simple.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We're not going to approve it. So maybe this one will say ... let's throw the other one away. Would anybody like it from the media? Would anybody like that long beautiful chart? You can have it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So my executive order also requires agencies to work together efficiently by requiring one lead agency for each major infrastructure project. It also holds agencies accountable if they fail to streamline their review process. So each agency is accountable. We're going to get infrastructure built quickly, inexpensively, relatively speaking, and the permitting process will go very very quickly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No longer will we tolerate one job killing delay after another. No longer will we accept a broken system that benefits consultants and lobbyists at the expense of hardworking Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now I knew the process very well, probably better than anybody. I had to get permits for this building and many of the buildings I built — all of the buildings I built in Manhattan and many other places.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And I will tell you that the consultants are rich people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They go around making it very difficult. They lobby Congress, they lobby state governments, city governments, to make it very difficult so that you have to hire consultants and that you have to take years and pay them a fortune.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So we're streamlining the process had we won't be having so much of that anymore. No longer will we allow the infrastructure of our magnificent country to crumble and decay. While protecting the environment, we will build gleaming new roads, bridges, railways, waterways, tunnels and highways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We will rebuild our country with American workers, American iron, American aluminum, American steel. We will create millions of new jobs and make millions of American dreams come true. Our infrastructure will again be the best in the world. We used to have the greatest infrastructure anywhere in the world. And today we're like a third world country. We are literally like a third world country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our infrastructure will again be the best and we will restore the pride in our communities, our nation, and all over the United States we'll be proud again. So I want to thank everybody for being here. God bless you. God bless the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you have any questions, we have — Mick, you could come up here please. Come on up. Mick Mulvaney. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Why do you think these CEOs are leaving your manufacturing council?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Because they're not taking their job seriously as it pertains to this country. We want jobs, manufacturing in this country. If you look at some of those people that you're talking about, they're outside of the country, they're having a lot of their product made outside. If you look at Merck as an example, take a look where, excuse me. Excuse me. Take a look at where their product is made. It's made outside of our country. We want products made in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now I have to tell you, some of the folks that will leave, they're leaving out of embarrassment because they make their products outside. And I've been lecturing them, including the gentleman that you're referring to, about you have to bring it back to this country. You can't do it necessarily in Ireland and all of these other places, you have to bring this work back to this country. That's what I want. I want manufacturing to be back into the United States so that American workers can benefit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Why did you wait so long to blast Neo Nazis?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I didn't wait long. I didn't wait long. I didn't wait long. I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct. Not make a quick statement. The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement. But you don't make statements that direct unless you know the fact. It takes a little while to get the facts. You still don't know the facts. And it's a very, very important process to me. And it's a very important statement. So I don't want to go quickly and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement. I want to know the facts —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you go back to my ... in fact, I brought it. I brought it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As I said on, remember this, on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms, this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. It has no place in America. And then I went on from there. Now here's the thing --\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Excuse me. Excuse me. Take it nice and easy. Here's the thing. When I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts. This event just happened. In fact, a lot of the event didn't even happen yet, as we were speaking. This event just happened. Before I make a statement, I need the facts. So I don't want to rush into a statement. So making the statement when I made it was excellent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, the young woman, who I hear is a fantastic young woman, and it was on NBC, her mother wrote me and said through, I guess Twitter, social media, the nicest things. And I very much appreciated that. I hear she was a fine, really actually an incredible young woman. But her mother on Twitter thanked me for what I said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And honestly, if the press were not fake, and if it was honest, the press would have said what I said was very nice. But unlike you —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But unlike you and unlike the media, before I make a statement, I like to know the facts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: The CEO of Wal Mart said you missed a critical opportunity to help bring the country together. Did you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Not at all. I think the country, look, you take a look, I've created over a million jobs since I'm president, the country is booming, the stock market is setting records, we have the highest employment numbers we've ever had in the history of our country, we're doing record business. We have the highest levels of enthusiasm. So the head of Wal Mart — who I know, who is very nice guy – was making a political statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>... I want to make sure, when I make a statement, that the statement is correct. And there was no way, there was no way of making a correct statement that early. I had to see the facts, unlike a lot of REPORTERs. Unlike a lot of REPORTERs -\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I didn't know David Duke was there. I wanted to see the facts. And the facts as they started coming out were very well stated. In fact, everybody said, his statement was beautiful, if he would have made it sooner, that would have been good. I couldn't have made it sooner because I didn't know all of the facts. Frankly, people still don't know all of the facts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Excuse me. Excuse me. It was very important to me to get the facts out and correctly. Because if I would have made a fast statement, and the first statement was made without knowing much other than what we were seeing. The second statement was made after, with knowledge, with great knowledge. There's still things. Excuse me. There's still things that people don't know. I want to make a statement with knowledge. I wanted to know the states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Was this terrorism?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: The driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family and this country. And that is, you can call it terrorism, you can call it murder, you can call it whatever you want. I would just call it as the fastest one to come up with a good verdict. That's what I'd call it. Because there is a question: Is it murder, is it terrorism? And then you get into legal semantics. The driver of the car is a murderer and what he did was a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Do you still have confidence in Steve Bannon?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Look, look. I like Mr. Bannon. He's a friend of mine. But, Mr. Bannon came on very late, you know that. I went through 17 senators, governors and I won all the primaries. Mr. Bannon came on very much later than that. And I like him, he's a good man, he is not a racist, I can tell you that. He's a good person. He actually gets a very unfair press in that regard. But we'll see what happens with Mr. Bannon but he's a good person and I think the press treats him frankly very unfairly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<Reporter and Trump crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Senator McCain has called on you to defend your national security advisor H. R. McMaster against some of these attacks —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I've already done that. I did it the last time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: And he called on it again —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Senator McCain? Senator McCain? You mean the one who voted against Obamacare? Who is Senator? You mean Senator McCain who voted against us getting good health care?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Senator McCain said that the alt right is behind these attacks and he linked that same group to those who perpetrated the attack in Charlottesville —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Well, I don't know. I can't tell you. I'm sure Senator McCain must know what he's talking about. But when you say the alt right, define alt right to me. You define it. No you define it for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Sen. McCain defined them as —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Ok what about the alt left that came charging — excuse me. What about the alt left that came charging at the, as you say, the alt right? Do they have any semblance of guilt? Let me ask you this, what about the fact they came charging, that they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? Do they have any problem? I think they do. As far as I'm concerned, that was a horrible, horrible day. Wait a minute, I'm not finished. I'm not finished, fake news.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That was a horrible day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I will tell you something. I watched those very closely. Much more closely than you people watched it. And you have, you had a group on one side that was bad. And you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. And nobody wants to say that. But I'll say it right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You had a group, you had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit and they were very, very violent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Do you think that what you call the alt left is the same as neo Nazis?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: All of those people — excuse me. I've condemned neo Nazis. I've condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee. So. Excuse me. And you take a look at some of the groups, and you see and you'd know it if you were honest REPORTERs, which in many cases you're not, but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, this week it's Robert E. Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson's coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week and is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But they were there to protest, excuse me, you take a look the night before, they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. Infrastructure question, go ahead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Should statues of Robert E. Lee stay up?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I would say that's up to a local town, community or the federal government depending on where it is located.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: ... race relations in America and do you think things have gotten worse or better since you took office?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I think they've gotten better or the same. Look, they've been frayed for a long time. And you can ask President Obama about that because he'd make speeches about it. But I believe that the fact that I brought in, it will be soon, millions of jobs, you see where companies are moving back into our country, I think that's going to have a tremendous positive impact on race relations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We have companies coming back into our country. We have two car companies that just announced, we have FoxConn in Wisconsin just announced. We have many companies, I say pouring back into the country. I think that's going to have a huge, positive impact on race relations. You know why? It's jobs. What people want now, they want jobs. They want great jobs with good pay. And when they have that, you watch how race relations will be. And I'll tell you, we're spending a lot of money on the inner cities. We're fixing the inner cities. We're doing far more than anybody's done with respect to the inner cities. It's a priority for me. And it's very important.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Are you putting what you're calling the alt left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I'm not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I'm saying is this. You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other and they came at each other with clubs and it was viscous and it was horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch. But there is another side. There was a group on this side, you can call them the left, you've just called them the left, that came, violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that's the way it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Well, I do think there's blame, yes, I think there's blame on both sides. You look at both sides. I think there's blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it. And you don't have any doubt about it either. And, and if you reported it accurately, you would say it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Excuse me. You had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group, excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park, from Robert E. Lee to another name.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>George Washington was a slave-owner. Was George Washington a slave-owner? So will George Washington now lose his status — are we going to take down — excuse me. Are we going to take down statues of George Washington? How 'bout Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him? OK, good. Are we going to take down the statue because he was a major slave-owner? Now we're going to take down his statue. So you know what, it's fine. You're changing history, you're changing culture. And you had people, and I'm not talking about the neo Nazis or the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo Nazis and white nationalists, OK? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You got a lot of bad people in the other group, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: You said the press has treated white nationalists unfairly?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: No. There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before, if you look, they were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I'm sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people. Neo Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest. Because I don't know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn't have a permit. So I only tell you this, there are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country. A horrible moment. But there are two sides.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Does anybody have a final —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: What makes you think you can get an infrastructure bill, you didn't get health care –\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Well, you know, I'll tell you. We came very close with health care. Unfortunately, John McCain decided to vote against it at the last minute. You'll have to ask John McCain why he did that. But we came very close to health care. We will end up getting health care but we'll get the infrastructure and actually infrastructure is something that I think will have bipartisan support on. I actually think Democrats will go along with the infrastructure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Have you spoken to the family of the victim of the car attack?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: No, I'll be reaching out. I'll be reaching out. I was very, I thought that the statement put out — the mother's statement — I thought was a beautiful statement. I will tell you, it was something that I really appreciated. I thought it was terrific and really under the kind of stress that she's under and the heartache that she's under, I thought putting out that statement to me was really something I won't forget.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thank you all very much. Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<side conversation with reporters>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Will you go to Charlottesville?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: I own a house in Charlottesville. Does anyone know I own a house in Charlottesville?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Where is it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Oh boy. It's in Charlottesville, you'll see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: Is it near the winery?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: It is the winery. I mean, I know a lot about Charlottesville. Charlottesville is a great place. It's been very badly hurt over the last couple of days. I own actually one of the largest wineries in the United States. It's in Charlottesville.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>REPORTER: What do you think needs to be done to overcome the racial divide?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Well, I really think jobs going to have a big impact. I think if we continue to create jobs — over a million, substantially more than a million — and you see just the other day the car companies coming in, I think if we continue to create jobs at levels that I'm creating jobs, I think that's going to have a tremendous impact, a positive impact, on race relations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp><<crosstalk>>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRUMP: Because the people are going to be working, they're going to be making a lot of money, much more money than they ever thought possible. And the other thing, very important, I believe wages will start going up. They haven't gone up for a long time. I believe wages now, because the economy is doing so well with respect to employment and unemployment, I believe wages will start to go up. 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Grandstanders should not have gone on. JOBS!\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"897478270442143744"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By departing, Paul follows in the \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/14/543384974/merck-ceo-resigns-from-a-trump-business-council-citing-his-conscience\">footsteps of three CEOs\u003c/a> — Merck's Kenneth Frazier, Under Armour's Kevin Plank and Intel's Brian Krzanich — who resigned from the council on Monday following the president's heavily criticized handling of the deadly violence that erupted at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Frazier said in announcing his decision, \"I feel a responsibility to take a stand against intolerance and extremism.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of his departure, Trump replied, \"Now that Ken Frazier of Merck Pharma has resigned ... he will have more time to lower ripoff drug prices!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The council was formed in January, when Trump launched the Manufacturing Jobs Initiative as part of his effort to create American jobs. At the time, the White House said the president would be \"meeting with some of the world's most successful and creative business leaders to share their experiences and gain their insights.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tesla founder Elon Musk left the manufacturing council and another presidential advisory group in June, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/870369915894546432\">citing his disagreement\u003c/a> with Trump's decision to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris climate accord.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"870369915894546432"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Here is the list of 28 business leaders the White House said were named to the council on Jan. 27 — we've used dashes to highlight the executives who have resigned:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Andrew Liveris,\u003c/strong> The Dow Chemical Co.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bill Brown,\u003c/strong> Harris Corp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Dell,\u003c/strong> Dell Technologies\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Ferriola,\u003c/strong> Nucor Corp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jeff Fettig,\u003c/strong> Whirlpool Corp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mark Fields,\u003c/strong> Ford Motor Co. \u003cem>(now retired)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>-- Kenneth Frazier,\u003c/strong> Merck & Co. 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He served a four-year prison sentence for robbing a cab driver at gunpoint in 2007, then gained online fame when he was \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8GVtXfATtI\" target=\"_blank\">caught on video\u003c/a> punching a female counter-protester in the face during a violent rally in Berkeley earlier this year. After police intervened during street fights between white supremacist attendees and counter-protesters in Charlottesville, he was arrested for failing to disperse and then was released.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speaking on the phone, he compared the event and its fallout to contentious marches during the civil rights movement in the 1960s. “I think there will be some people that, as a result of that process, will come over to us,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He alleges that mainstream accounts of Saturday's events don't reflect the full story and that when people hear the version of events promoted by himself, his friend and ally Richard Spencer, and other white supremacist figures, it will lead them to question wider society.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These same people are still dealing with the harsh realities, in which there is this anti-white culture,” he asserted, accusing the government of pursuing policies that aim to replace white people in the workplace and society at large through nonwhite immigration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcr/2017/08/170814Damigo.mp3\" Image=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-1-800x533.jpg\" Title=\"California White Supremacist Says Charlottesville May Boost Recruitment\" program=\"The California Report\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clashes on Saturday between white supremacists attending the event and anti-racist activists culminated in an attack during which James Alex Fields Jr. allegedly \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/13/ohio-man-charged-with-murder-in-fatal-car-attack-on-anti-white-nationalist-march/\" target=\"_blank\">rammed his car into a crowd of counter-protesters\u003c/a>, killing one and injuring 19. Damigo called the death “tragic,” but questioned the narrative that has been widely circulated by news media.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As of last night, more pictures and video came out that really make what happened kind of too ambiguous to really make a judgment call,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On his Twitter feed, Damigo also reposted a short video clip purporting to offer another angle on the collision between the silver Dodge Challenger and crowd members, which he and other right-wing figures claim proves the car was set upon by people with sticks and other objects before it rammed into the crowd.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, the clip shows the front of the car as it quickly backs away, revealing that the bumper had already been nearly destroyed and the windshield had already been cracked -- in essence, this is a view of the aftermath to the attack, being paraded as the lead-up to the incident itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo was also sharply critical of the police response, accusing the authorities of allowing both sides to fight with each other, in hopes of allowing violence to occur, which they could then disavow. “They were just looking for an excuse, for violence to occur, in which they could shut down the event,” he alleged.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At \u003ca href=\"https://www.pscp.tv/w/1eaKbmLOWdqxX\">an earlier press conference with Richard Spencer\u003c/a>, who was also a speaker at the event, Damigo claimed that police pushed him and members of his group back through a hostile crowd of counter-protesters, causing further confrontations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an earlier conversation with KQED, however, Damigo admitted that he and his group actively seek controversy in order to keep themselves in the public eye. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The more these people kick and scream and whine and cry, the more publicity we get,” he explained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Moving forward, Damigo said he plans to return to Charlottesville for another rally, and also reiterated his plans to bring Spencer to Berkeley for a future public event.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Charlottesville organizer Nathan Damigo says the violent, deadly protest could be a recruitment opportunity.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1502819799,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":729},"headData":{"title":"California White Supremacist Says Charlottesville May Boost Recruitment | KQED","description":"Charlottesville organizer Nathan Damigo says the violent, deadly protest could be a recruitment opportunity.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"California White Supremacist Says Charlottesville May Boost Recruitment","datePublished":"2017-08-15T02:47:21.000Z","dateModified":"2017-08-15T17:56:39.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11611957 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11611957","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/14/california-white-supremacist-says-charlottesville-may-boost-recruitment/","disqusTitle":"California White Supremacist Says Charlottesville May Boost Recruitment","path":"/news/11611957/california-white-supremacist-says-charlottesville-may-boost-recruitment","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Nathan Damigo, leader of the California-based white nationalist organization Identity Evropa, says that the violent 'Unite the Right' rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend that left three dead might turn out to be an opportunity to connect with more recruits for his organization.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think there's going to be a lot of people who are going to, for the first time, realize that they're not getting the full story,” he told KQED in an interview on Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo, \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/14/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run/\">who KQED profiled in the wake of his involvement in the Charlottesville protest\u003c/a>, was a scheduled speaker and helped organize the event. He served a four-year prison sentence for robbing a cab driver at gunpoint in 2007, then gained online fame when he was \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8GVtXfATtI\" target=\"_blank\">caught on video\u003c/a> punching a female counter-protester in the face during a violent rally in Berkeley earlier this year. After police intervened during street fights between white supremacist attendees and counter-protesters in Charlottesville, he was arrested for failing to disperse and then was released.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speaking on the phone, he compared the event and its fallout to contentious marches during the civil rights movement in the 1960s. “I think there will be some people that, as a result of that process, will come over to us,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He alleges that mainstream accounts of Saturday's events don't reflect the full story and that when people hear the version of events promoted by himself, his friend and ally Richard Spencer, and other white supremacist figures, it will lead them to question wider society.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These same people are still dealing with the harsh realities, in which there is this anti-white culture,” he asserted, accusing the government of pursuing policies that aim to replace white people in the workplace and society at large through nonwhite immigration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcr/2017/08/170814Damigo.mp3","image":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-1-800x533.jpg","title":"California White Supremacist Says Charlottesville May Boost Recruitment","program":"The California Report","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clashes on Saturday between white supremacists attending the event and anti-racist activists culminated in an attack during which James Alex Fields Jr. allegedly \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/13/ohio-man-charged-with-murder-in-fatal-car-attack-on-anti-white-nationalist-march/\" target=\"_blank\">rammed his car into a crowd of counter-protesters\u003c/a>, killing one and injuring 19. Damigo called the death “tragic,” but questioned the narrative that has been widely circulated by news media.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As of last night, more pictures and video came out that really make what happened kind of too ambiguous to really make a judgment call,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On his Twitter feed, Damigo also reposted a short video clip purporting to offer another angle on the collision between the silver Dodge Challenger and crowd members, which he and other right-wing figures claim proves the car was set upon by people with sticks and other objects before it rammed into the crowd.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, the clip shows the front of the car as it quickly backs away, revealing that the bumper had already been nearly destroyed and the windshield had already been cracked -- in essence, this is a view of the aftermath to the attack, being paraded as the lead-up to the incident itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo was also sharply critical of the police response, accusing the authorities of allowing both sides to fight with each other, in hopes of allowing violence to occur, which they could then disavow. “They were just looking for an excuse, for violence to occur, in which they could shut down the event,” he alleged.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At \u003ca href=\"https://www.pscp.tv/w/1eaKbmLOWdqxX\">an earlier press conference with Richard Spencer\u003c/a>, who was also a speaker at the event, Damigo claimed that police pushed him and members of his group back through a hostile crowd of counter-protesters, causing further confrontations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an earlier conversation with KQED, however, Damigo admitted that he and his group actively seek controversy in order to keep themselves in the public eye. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The more these people kick and scream and whine and cry, the more publicity we get,” he explained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Moving forward, Damigo said he plans to return to Charlottesville for another rally, and also reiterated his plans to bring Spencer to Berkeley for a future public event.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11611957/california-white-supremacist-says-charlottesville-may-boost-recruitment","authors":["11328"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_21448","news_21451","news_17286","news_17041","news_21025"],"featImg":"news_11611978","label":"news_72"},"news_11611785":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11611785","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11611785","score":null,"sort":[1502752192000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"free-speech-debate-should-top-dog-worker-be-out-of-job-for-attending-white-supremacist-rally","title":"Should Top Dog Worker Be Out of Job for Attending White Supremacist Rally?","publishDate":1502752192,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>In Berkeley, the birthplace of the Free Speech Movement, patrons of local restaurant Top Dog over the weekend found themselves debating whether it was fair for the restaurant to fire an employee who attended a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. Top Dog has since stated that the employee, Cole White, resigned and was not fired.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement Monday, here's how the company explained White's leaving: \"On Saturday, August 12, it came to our attention that one of our employees was involved in the recent ‘alt-right’ rally in Charlottesville. Later that day we spoke with Cole White. During that conversation Cole chose to voluntarily resign his employment with top dog and we accepted his resignation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over the weekend, some customers assumed he was fired. They were startled to see a newly posted sign announcing, \"Effective Saturday August 12th Cole White no longer works at Top Dog. The actions of those in Charlottesville are not supported by Top Dog. We believe in individual freedom and voluntary association for everyone. Yours Truly, Top Dog.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After Cole was spotted in a photo from the Charlottesville rally, some local customers quickly took to social media calling for people to boycott the place, and exclaiming in horror that he had perhaps served them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-11611815\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154.png 750w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154-160x285.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154-240x427.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154-375x667.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154-520x925.png 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After reading the sign that Cole no longer worked there, customer Brandon Hoffman said punishing the owner at this point didn't make sense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We live in America, where everyone has freedom of speech and thought,\" Hoffman said. \"Obviously white supremacy is not something I stand by, and what happened in Charlottesville is out of the manager’s control and he has done everything he could to try and solve the problem. So there shouldn’t be any other negative retaliation to go towards him, right?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>White has been involved in \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/14/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run/\">previous white supremacist rallies \u003c/a>that turned violent, according to Emily Marshall, who says she was assaulted by him at a Berkeley rally in April after she had been punched in the face by Nathan Damigo, a leading white nationalist in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I looked this guy in the eye as I was trying to get up,\" she told KQED, \"and he ran up to me and grabbed me by the shoulders and kneed me in the forehead at least four times.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That would move this away from a free speech question. And the backlash for Top Dog may not end with Cole White no longer working there. The publication Berkeleyside raised questions\u003ca href=\"http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/08/13/berkeleys-top-dog-fires-employee-went-white-nationalist-rally/\"> about Top Dog owner\u003c/a> Richard Riemann's association with a website that supports pro-Confederacy views.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brandon Hoffman's sister, Cheyenne, said White's departure made her wonder what constitutes free speech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You can believe what you want to believe. But it’s also like at what point ... how far can you share your own opinion without other people being offended by it, and what’s the proper way of sharing your opinion? And some people don’t understand that some people share it in a way that’s not acceptable and then they get wronged for that. But then certain times it's OK because it’s like that’s wrong,\" she said. \"So I can believe what I want to believe, but I’m not forcing it on other people, you know?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another Top Dog regular, John Thomas, who's studying applied mathematics at UC Berkeley, said both Cole and the owner, if he fired him, were within their rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Personally, I think one's individual actions in your personal life shouldn't affect your employment. Simply just because it's a personal freedom thing. I don't agree with anything of his political beliefs. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum entirely,\" Thomas said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"But I think if you want to hold extreme political beliefs in either direction, you're welcome to hold them as long as it doesn't impact others or your professional life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"But it's also the right of a company to fire someone whose beliefs they don't agree with,\" Thomas said. \"He has his right to express his personal beliefs and the company has the right to fire him for them.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thomas didn't think that someone getting fired for his or her political stance would lead to more fear about expressing one's self.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't think it's a huge concern. Simply because companies expect a certain level of professionalism essentially if you are associating yourself with them. He, while he was there, in no way associated himself with the company,\" Thomas said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The debate over being fired for speaking out about political or cultural beliefs was in the spotlight last week after\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/09/googles-firing-of-engineer-a-clear-cut-legal-decision/\"> Google fired employee James Damore\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/08/12/543096715/-barbershop-a-roundup-of-this-week-s-issues-in-technology-and-culture\">KQED's Tonya Mosely weighed in on the controversy on NPR's Weekend \u003cem>All Things Considered.\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In Berkeley, birthplace of the Free Speech Movement, patrons of local eatery debate whether departure of employee who attended Charlottesville rally was warranted.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1502994864,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":21,"wordCount":849},"headData":{"title":"Should Top Dog Worker Be Out of Job for Attending White Supremacist Rally? | KQED","description":"In Berkeley, birthplace of the Free Speech Movement, patrons of local eatery debate whether departure of employee who attended Charlottesville rally was warranted.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Should Top Dog Worker Be Out of Job for Attending White Supremacist Rally?","datePublished":"2017-08-14T23:09:52.000Z","dateModified":"2017-08-17T18:34:24.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11611785 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11611785","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/14/free-speech-debate-should-top-dog-worker-be-out-of-job-for-attending-white-supremacist-rally/","disqusTitle":"Should Top Dog Worker Be Out of Job for Attending White Supremacist Rally?","path":"/news/11611785/free-speech-debate-should-top-dog-worker-be-out-of-job-for-attending-white-supremacist-rally","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>In Berkeley, the birthplace of the Free Speech Movement, patrons of local restaurant Top Dog over the weekend found themselves debating whether it was fair for the restaurant to fire an employee who attended a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. Top Dog has since stated that the employee, Cole White, resigned and was not fired.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement Monday, here's how the company explained White's leaving: \"On Saturday, August 12, it came to our attention that one of our employees was involved in the recent ‘alt-right’ rally in Charlottesville. Later that day we spoke with Cole White. During that conversation Cole chose to voluntarily resign his employment with top dog and we accepted his resignation.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over the weekend, some customers assumed he was fired. They were startled to see a newly posted sign announcing, \"Effective Saturday August 12th Cole White no longer works at Top Dog. The actions of those in Charlottesville are not supported by Top Dog. We believe in individual freedom and voluntary association for everyone. Yours Truly, Top Dog.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After Cole was spotted in a photo from the Charlottesville rally, some local customers quickly took to social media calling for people to boycott the place, and exclaiming in horror that he had perhaps served them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-11611815\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154.png 750w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154-160x285.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154-240x427.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154-375x667.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/IMG_2154-520x925.png 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After reading the sign that Cole no longer worked there, customer Brandon Hoffman said punishing the owner at this point didn't make sense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We live in America, where everyone has freedom of speech and thought,\" Hoffman said. \"Obviously white supremacy is not something I stand by, and what happened in Charlottesville is out of the manager’s control and he has done everything he could to try and solve the problem. So there shouldn’t be any other negative retaliation to go towards him, right?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>White has been involved in \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/14/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run/\">previous white supremacist rallies \u003c/a>that turned violent, according to Emily Marshall, who says she was assaulted by him at a Berkeley rally in April after she had been punched in the face by Nathan Damigo, a leading white nationalist in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I looked this guy in the eye as I was trying to get up,\" she told KQED, \"and he ran up to me and grabbed me by the shoulders and kneed me in the forehead at least four times.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That would move this away from a free speech question. And the backlash for Top Dog may not end with Cole White no longer working there. The publication Berkeleyside raised questions\u003ca href=\"http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/08/13/berkeleys-top-dog-fires-employee-went-white-nationalist-rally/\"> about Top Dog owner\u003c/a> Richard Riemann's association with a website that supports pro-Confederacy views.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brandon Hoffman's sister, Cheyenne, said White's departure made her wonder what constitutes free speech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You can believe what you want to believe. But it’s also like at what point ... how far can you share your own opinion without other people being offended by it, and what’s the proper way of sharing your opinion? And some people don’t understand that some people share it in a way that’s not acceptable and then they get wronged for that. But then certain times it's OK because it’s like that’s wrong,\" she said. \"So I can believe what I want to believe, but I’m not forcing it on other people, you know?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another Top Dog regular, John Thomas, who's studying applied mathematics at UC Berkeley, said both Cole and the owner, if he fired him, were within their rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Personally, I think one's individual actions in your personal life shouldn't affect your employment. Simply just because it's a personal freedom thing. I don't agree with anything of his political beliefs. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum entirely,\" Thomas said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"But I think if you want to hold extreme political beliefs in either direction, you're welcome to hold them as long as it doesn't impact others or your professional life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"But it's also the right of a company to fire someone whose beliefs they don't agree with,\" Thomas said. \"He has his right to express his personal beliefs and the company has the right to fire him for them.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thomas didn't think that someone getting fired for his or her political stance would lead to more fear about expressing one's self.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't think it's a huge concern. Simply because companies expect a certain level of professionalism essentially if you are associating yourself with them. He, while he was there, in no way associated himself with the company,\" Thomas said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The debate over being fired for speaking out about political or cultural beliefs was in the spotlight last week after\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/09/googles-firing-of-engineer-a-clear-cut-legal-decision/\"> Google fired employee James Damore\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/08/12/543096715/-barbershop-a-roundup-of-this-week-s-issues-in-technology-and-culture\">KQED's Tonya Mosely weighed in on the controversy on NPR's Weekend \u003cem>All Things Considered.\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11611785/free-speech-debate-should-top-dog-worker-be-out-of-job-for-attending-white-supremacist-rally","authors":["231"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_129","news_21448","news_18797","news_21456"],"featImg":"news_11611768","label":"news_72"},"news_11611742":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11611742","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11611742","score":null,"sort":[1502741040000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"trump-calls-out-kkk-white-supremacists-after-charlottesville-racism-is-evil","title":"Trump Calls Out KKK, White Supremacists After Charlottesville: 'Racism Is Evil'","publishDate":1502741040,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Updated at 7:20 p.m. ET\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Almost 48 hours after violence engulfed Charlottesville, Va., President Trump called out white nationalist groups by name. Trump's remarks on Monday followed criticism that his initial statement about the clash of protesters did not condemn racist groups specifically.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis and white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans,\" the president said from the White House.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump began his remarks talking about his economic accomplishments and plans for trade negotiations before turning his attention to the events over the weekend in Virginia. After the Charlottesville City Council had voted earlier this year to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from one of its parks, white nationalist groups — including white supremacists, the alt-right, the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazis — descended on the city for a \"Unite the Right\" rally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Friday night, they marched on the normally sleepy college town, home to the University of Virginia, carrying torches. On Saturday conditions turned deadly as hundreds of the white nationalists, some carrying Confederate flags and shields and others in militia-like gear, clashed with counterprotesters in the city streets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"h5HspAIoHvxJaB6J1P27SUUTUuLfii9Z\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At one point a silver Dodge Challenger, allegedly driven by 20-year-old James Alex Fields Jr. of Ohio, rammed into a street filled with counterprotesters. Heather Heyer, 32, was killed, and at least 19 others were injured. \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/08/14/543414086/charlottesville-suspect-to-remain-in-jail-after-first-court-appearance\">Fields was charged\u003c/a> with one count of second-degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding and one count of hit and run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>President Trump expressed sympathy to Heyer's family as well as to the families of Virginia State Troopers Lt. H. Jay Cullen and Berke M.M. Bates, who died when their helicopter that was patrolling Saturday's event crashed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These three fallen Americans embody the goodness and decency of our nation,\" Trump said. \"In times such as these, America has always shown its true character, responding to hate with love, division with unity, and violence with an unwavering resolve for justice.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump spoke after meeting with newly installed FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General Jeff Sessions at the White House. He said that the Department of Justice had opened a civil rights investigation into the car attack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To anyone who acted criminally at this weekend's racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered,\" the president said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sessions \u003ca href=\"http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-attorney-general-evil-charlottesville-car-ramming-fits/story?id=49202191\">told ABC News\u003c/a> on Monday morning that the car crash that had killed Heyer \"does meet the definition of domestic terrorism.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You can be sure we will charge and advance the investigation towards the most serious charges that can be brought, because this is unequivocally an unacceptable, evil attack,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"6CPD8U2oj4Pt7QqTXE1uSHHk3GCVG0FE\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The president's condemnations may be too little, too late for those who criticized Trump's initial remarks — and Trump may have missed a critical moment to be the nation's healer in chief.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., the Senate's only black Republican, said in a statement later Monday that while Trump's remarks earlier that day were \"clear and specific,\" those words \"would have been more impactful on Saturday.\" In an op-ed in \u003cem>USA Today\u003c/em>, which did not mention Trump, \u003ca href=\"https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/14/fight-hatred-fear-domestic-terror-with-american-ideals-tim-scott-column/564755001/\">Scott wrote\u003c/a>, \"Our response to the events in Charlottesville, Va., should mirror our response to the murders at \u003ca href=\"https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/07/witness-charleston-shooting-felicia-sanders/95121812/\">Mother Emanuel Church\u003c/a> in Charleston. Condemnation of racism. Swift justice for a terrorist. And unity for the community that grieves.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/SenatorTimScott/status/897200925571469312\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Saturday, Trump claimed that the clashes were a result of \"hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides.\" Top Republicans, among others, quickly criticized him for not calling out by name the white supremacists, alt-right, KKK and neo-Nazi groups that began the protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Mr. President — we must call evil by its name. These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism,\" Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., who heads up the GOP Senate campaign committee, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/SenCoryGardner/status/896472477844385792\">tweeted\u003c/a> on Saturday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/SenCoryGardner/status/896472477844385792\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The White House put out an unsigned statement on Sunday morning, saying that, \"The President said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry and hatred and of course that includes white Supremacists, KKK, neo-nazi and all extremist groups. He called for national unity and bringing all Americans together.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vice President Pence had gone further than the president in his own comments, telling reporters Sunday night while traveling in Colombia, \"We have no tolerance for hate and violence from white supremacists, neo-Nazis or the KKK. These dangerous fringe groups have no place in American public life and in the American debate, and we condemn them in the strongest possible terms.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump has\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>been blamed for being slow to criticize white supremacist groups in the past — even as he regularly attacks other targets on Twitter. During the 2016 campaign, Trump came under fire for \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-disavows-david-duke-kkk/index.html\">not immediately disavowing\u003c/a> the endorsement of David Duke, a former KKK grand wizard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"GErqhhVGf0tdTOtnHMoVic98fciKFMmw\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Duke, who attended the march in Virginia, said on Saturday that participants' aim was \"to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That's what we believed in. That's why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he's going to take our country back.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Duke later \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/896431991821926401\">responded to one of the president's tweets\u003c/a> condemning the violence by saying, \"I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKi2AOPBavU\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Read Trump's full remarks, delivered Monday afternoon at the White House: \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thank you. I'm in Washington today to meet with my economic team about trade policy and major tax cuts and reform. We are renegotiating trade deals and making them good for the American worker and it's about time. Our economy is now strong. The stock market continues to hit record highs, unemployment is at 16 year low and businesses are more optimistic than ever before. Companies are moving back to the United States and bringing many thousands of jobs with them. We have already created over one million jobs since I took office. We will be discussing economic issues in greater detail later this afternoon but based on the events that took place over the weekend in Charlottesville, Virginia, I would like to provide the nation with an update on the ongoing federal response to the horrific attack and violence that was witnessed by everyone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I just met with FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General Jeff Sessions. The Department of Justice has opened a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that killed one innocent American and wounded 20 others. To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered. As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms, this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. It has no place in America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And as I have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws. We all salute the same great flag. And we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hated, bigotry and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. We are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal. We are equal in the eyes of our creator. We are equal under the law. And we are equal under our constitution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike at the very core of America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two days ago, a young American woman, Heather Heyer, was tragically killed. Her death fills us with grief and we send her family our thoughts, our prayers and our love. We also mourn the two Virginia state troopers who died in service to their community, their commonwealth and their country. Troopers Jay Cullen and Berke Bates exemplify the very best of America and our hearts go out to their families, their friends and every member of American law enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These three fallen Americans embody the goodness and decency of our nation. In times such as these, America has always shown its true character, responding to hate with love, division with unity, and violence with an unwavering resolve for justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a candidate, I promised to restore law and order to our country and our federal law enforcement agencies are following through on that pledge. We will spare no resource in fighting so that every American child can grow up free from violence and fear. We will defend and protect the sacred rights of all Americans and we will work together so that every citizen in this blessed land is free to follow their dreams in their hearts and to express the love and joy in their souls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thank you, god bless you and god bless America. \u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2017 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Trump+Calls+Out+KKK%2C+White+Supremacists+After+Charlottesville%3A+%27Racism+Is+Evil%27&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Almost 48 hours after violence engulfed Charlottesville, Va., President Trump called out white nationalist groups by name. He had been criticized for not doing so in his initial remarks on Saturday.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1502754798,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":36,"wordCount":1593},"headData":{"title":"Trump Calls Out KKK, White Supremacists After Charlottesville: 'Racism Is Evil' | KQED","description":"Almost 48 hours after violence engulfed Charlottesville, Va., President Trump called out white nationalist groups by name. 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Trump's remarks on Monday followed criticism that his initial statement about the clash of protesters did not condemn racist groups specifically.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis and white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans,\" the president said from the White House.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump began his remarks talking about his economic accomplishments and plans for trade negotiations before turning his attention to the events over the weekend in Virginia. After the Charlottesville City Council had voted earlier this year to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from one of its parks, white nationalist groups — including white supremacists, the alt-right, the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazis — descended on the city for a \"Unite the Right\" rally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Friday night, they marched on the normally sleepy college town, home to the University of Virginia, carrying torches. On Saturday conditions turned deadly as hundreds of the white nationalists, some carrying Confederate flags and shields and others in militia-like gear, clashed with counterprotesters in the city streets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At one point a silver Dodge Challenger, allegedly driven by 20-year-old James Alex Fields Jr. of Ohio, rammed into a street filled with counterprotesters. Heather Heyer, 32, was killed, and at least 19 others were injured. \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/08/14/543414086/charlottesville-suspect-to-remain-in-jail-after-first-court-appearance\">Fields was charged\u003c/a> with one count of second-degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding and one count of hit and run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>President Trump expressed sympathy to Heyer's family as well as to the families of Virginia State Troopers Lt. H. Jay Cullen and Berke M.M. Bates, who died when their helicopter that was patrolling Saturday's event crashed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"These three fallen Americans embody the goodness and decency of our nation,\" Trump said. \"In times such as these, America has always shown its true character, responding to hate with love, division with unity, and violence with an unwavering resolve for justice.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump spoke after meeting with newly installed FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General Jeff Sessions at the White House. He said that the Department of Justice had opened a civil rights investigation into the car attack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To anyone who acted criminally at this weekend's racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered,\" the president said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sessions \u003ca href=\"http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-attorney-general-evil-charlottesville-car-ramming-fits/story?id=49202191\">told ABC News\u003c/a> on Monday morning that the car crash that had killed Heyer \"does meet the definition of domestic terrorism.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You can be sure we will charge and advance the investigation towards the most serious charges that can be brought, because this is unequivocally an unacceptable, evil attack,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The president's condemnations may be too little, too late for those who criticized Trump's initial remarks — and Trump may have missed a critical moment to be the nation's healer in chief.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., the Senate's only black Republican, said in a statement later Monday that while Trump's remarks earlier that day were \"clear and specific,\" those words \"would have been more impactful on Saturday.\" In an op-ed in \u003cem>USA Today\u003c/em>, which did not mention Trump, \u003ca href=\"https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/14/fight-hatred-fear-domestic-terror-with-american-ideals-tim-scott-column/564755001/\">Scott wrote\u003c/a>, \"Our response to the events in Charlottesville, Va., should mirror our response to the murders at \u003ca href=\"https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/07/witness-charleston-shooting-felicia-sanders/95121812/\">Mother Emanuel Church\u003c/a> in Charleston. Condemnation of racism. Swift justice for a terrorist. And unity for the community that grieves.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"897200925571469312"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>On Saturday, Trump claimed that the clashes were a result of \"hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides.\" Top Republicans, among others, quickly criticized him for not calling out by name the white supremacists, alt-right, KKK and neo-Nazi groups that began the protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Mr. President — we must call evil by its name. These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism,\" Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., who heads up the GOP Senate campaign committee, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/SenCoryGardner/status/896472477844385792\">tweeted\u003c/a> on Saturday.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"896472477844385792"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>The White House put out an unsigned statement on Sunday morning, saying that, \"The President said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry and hatred and of course that includes white Supremacists, KKK, neo-nazi and all extremist groups. He called for national unity and bringing all Americans together.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vice President Pence had gone further than the president in his own comments, telling reporters Sunday night while traveling in Colombia, \"We have no tolerance for hate and violence from white supremacists, neo-Nazis or the KKK. These dangerous fringe groups have no place in American public life and in the American debate, and we condemn them in the strongest possible terms.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump has\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>been blamed for being slow to criticize white supremacist groups in the past — even as he regularly attacks other targets on Twitter. During the 2016 campaign, Trump came under fire for \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-disavows-david-duke-kkk/index.html\">not immediately disavowing\u003c/a> the endorsement of David Duke, a former KKK grand wizard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Duke, who attended the march in Virginia, said on Saturday that participants' aim was \"to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That's what we believed in. That's why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he's going to take our country back.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Duke later \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/896431991821926401\">responded to one of the president's tweets\u003c/a> condemning the violence by saying, \"I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/mKi2AOPBavU'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/mKi2AOPBavU'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Read Trump's full remarks, delivered Monday afternoon at the White House: \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thank you. I'm in Washington today to meet with my economic team about trade policy and major tax cuts and reform. We are renegotiating trade deals and making them good for the American worker and it's about time. Our economy is now strong. The stock market continues to hit record highs, unemployment is at 16 year low and businesses are more optimistic than ever before. Companies are moving back to the United States and bringing many thousands of jobs with them. We have already created over one million jobs since I took office. We will be discussing economic issues in greater detail later this afternoon but based on the events that took place over the weekend in Charlottesville, Virginia, I would like to provide the nation with an update on the ongoing federal response to the horrific attack and violence that was witnessed by everyone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I just met with FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General Jeff Sessions. The Department of Justice has opened a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that killed one innocent American and wounded 20 others. To anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered. As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms, this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. It has no place in America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And as I have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws. We all salute the same great flag. And we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hated, bigotry and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. We are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal. We are equal in the eyes of our creator. We are equal under the law. And we are equal under our constitution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike at the very core of America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two days ago, a young American woman, Heather Heyer, was tragically killed. Her death fills us with grief and we send her family our thoughts, our prayers and our love. We also mourn the two Virginia state troopers who died in service to their community, their commonwealth and their country. Troopers Jay Cullen and Berke Bates exemplify the very best of America and our hearts go out to their families, their friends and every member of American law enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These three fallen Americans embody the goodness and decency of our nation. In times such as these, America has always shown its true character, responding to hate with love, division with unity, and violence with an unwavering resolve for justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a candidate, I promised to restore law and order to our country and our federal law enforcement agencies are following through on that pledge. We will spare no resource in fighting so that every American child can grow up free from violence and fear. We will defend and protect the sacred rights of all Americans and we will work together so that every citizen in this blessed land is free to follow their dreams in their hearts and to express the love and joy in their souls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thank you, god bless you and god bless America. \u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2017 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Trump+Calls+Out+KKK%2C+White+Supremacists+After+Charlottesville%3A+%27Racism+Is+Evil%27&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11611742/trump-calls-out-kkk-white-supremacists-after-charlottesville-racism-is-evil","authors":["byline_news_11611742"],"programs":["news_6944","news_72"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_21448","news_1323","news_21445"],"affiliates":["news_253"],"featImg":"news_11611743","label":"source_news_11611742"},"news_11611600":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11611600","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11611600","score":null,"sort":[1502694111000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run","title":"Californian Who Helped Lead Charlottesville Protests Used Berkeley as a Test Run","publishDate":1502694111,"format":"image","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>[dropcap]B[/dropcap]efore white nationalists \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/12/1-dead-after-car-plows-into-crowd-at-white-nationalist-protest-in-virginia/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">protested in Charlottesville\u003c/a> over the weekend, before a \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/13/ohio-man-charged-with-murder-in-fatal-car-attack-on-anti-white-nationalist-march/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">man allegedly plowed a car\u003c/a> into a group of people killing one and injuring at least 19, violent clashes in Berkeley offered a window into the motives and tactics of Identity Evropa, one of the white supremacist groups intimately involved in both protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For leaders of this white nationalist movement, the April 15 “Battle of Berkeley\" was a self-described test run to see just how far they could push the bounds of protesting, according to numerous \u003ca href=\"https://townhall.com/columnists/jackkerwick/2017/04/25/the-battle-of-berkeley-when-patriots-beat-the-antiamerican-left-n2317702\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">public statements\u003c/a> from members of the white supremacist movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nathan Damigo is a founder of the California-based Identity Evropa, \u003ca href=\"http://eltecolote.org/content/en/features/alternate-reality-growing-acceptance-of-white-nationalism-in-trumps-america/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">profiled by El Tecolote newspaper\u003c/a> in December. A former Marine infantryman and convicted felon who lives in Stanislaus County, Damigo is being credited with helping to lead the Charlottesville protest, along with other white supremacist rallies around the country. Damigo has made these rallies a key driver for recruiting new members of the group. He did not respond to requests for comment on Saturday about his involvement in the Charlottesville event following his arrest there.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I’d love to take credit for it, but it was more Nathan.'\u003ccite>Richard Spencer of the white supremacy group the National Policy Institute on Nathan Damigo's organization around a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Aug. 12.\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>But over the course of multiple hourlong interviews over several months this year, Damigo, 31, said his group is engaged in peaceful protests protected by the First Amendment. Before Charlottesville, Damigo was probably best known for punching a 19-year-old woman in the face in Berkeley. That moment was \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8GVtXfATtI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">captured on video\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the video, Damigo -- sporting a hipster haircut, collared shirt and clenched fists -- runs up to a young, dreadlocked woman holding a camera and punches her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo told KQED he punched the woman because she was a threat; because she was going to attack his friends; because she was a member of Antifa, a leftist confederation of socialists and anarchists -- some of whom have committed acts of violence and arson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Essentially, Damigo said he punched her because he had to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"jZdJDt4VLmEfe9wQB3CLFzAUrdJPiNWM\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She joined this organization and came with her local gang from Southern California, according to statements that she made on social media, to disrupt the events and to acquire scalps,” he said. “Furthermore, she was swinging around bottles, which is a deadly weapon, a foot-long wine bottle at people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s not what KQED witnessed at the scene of the attack, however.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What began with Damigo shouting provocative calls into a megaphone quickly turned into an all-out street brawl. Damigo was screaming \"hold the line,\" \"guard the flank\" and \"advance!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo violently moved through the crowd. Smoke bombs and flash grenades and glass bottles were thrown. Thick tear gas filled the air. Leftist protesters, many of them aging men, were beat up. Police were hit with firecrackers. At one point, Antifa (wearing black hoodies and masks) and the far right (wearing red hats, flag capes and paramilitary armor) fought over who could control a dumpster that was pushed down the street.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11611676\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1200px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11611676 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A fight broke out over control of a dumpster after right- and left-wing demonstrators clashed in Berkeley on April 15. \u003ccite>(John Sepulvado/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Damigo found himself outside of the roaring street brawl he helped create. Alone for a moment, he stopped in the middle of the street. Then, he ran across the street, right up to the woman, and hit her. After she fell, Damigo turned, smiled and jumped back into the rolling scuffles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/05/nathan-damigo-punching-woman-berkeley-white-nationalism/\">Damigo’s involvement in the \"Battle of Berkeley\"\u003c/a> is an important moment for the white supremacist movement because it attracted supporters from around the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"A large amount of the violence that has occurred may be due to the inroads we are making,\" Damigo told an interviewer after the Berkeley events.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This frenetic, violent, yet charismatic man with extreme racist views helped organize the Charlottesville rally. And he’s helping to mobilize an entire generation of white supremacists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11611748\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 441px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11611748\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/download.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"441\" height=\"495\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/download.png 441w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/download-160x180.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/download-240x269.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/download-375x421.png 375w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 441px) 100vw, 441px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A graphic promoting the Charlottesville rally included the insignia of Damigo's group Identity Evropa in section \"I.\" of the snake.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>From Suburban California Kid to Imprisoned Felon\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Nathan Damigo was born in Lewiston, Maine. In a long conversation with KQED, he noted with irony that the community had accepted early groups of resettled refugees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I wouldn’t call them refugees,” Damigo said. “It was one of the first places they started doing the Somali immigration relocation thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eventually, his mother moved the family to San Jose. In the South Bay, Damigo traced the beginning of his “race realist” awakening to feeling out of place in a multiracial city. He said he would feel uncomfortable in situations where he was the only white person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’d go over to a friend’s house, or something like that, and everybody’s speaking a different language,” Damigo said, “and you’re just sitting there awkwardly. There’s no connection there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11611678\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11611678\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Nathan Damigo traces the beginning of his 'race realist' beliefs to his upbringing in the diverse city of San Jose. \u003ccite>(Bert Johnson/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Damigo went to Liberty Baptist School in San Jose through his senior year. His mother worked as a teacher there. Like so many other California kids of his age, he listened to bands like Metallica and Soundgarden, watched \"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,\" and dreamed of being a pro skater.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yet, as he aged, those dreams morphed into aspirations of a military career -- his father had served in the Marine Corps. Damigo said his desire to serve became more pronounced after the Sept. 11 attacks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I pretty much watched live as the second tower was hit,” he said. “That was a pretty big thing to watch.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I became disillusioned, after the Iraq War, with mainstream narratives. ... Most of [David Duke’s] arguments I just couldn’t debunk, no matter how hard I tried.'\u003ccite>Nathan Damigo, Founder of Identity Evropa\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Damigo also credited his socially conservative family, who he said raised him to have pride in the country, for influencing his decision to enlist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He would serve two deployments in Iraq in the infantry. It was on these tours that Damigo’s views on race began to be shaped by the violent conflict he saw on a daily basis -- killings, murders, explosions and misery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I saw them in Iraq, which is also a multireligious, multicultural society,” Damigo said. “And I generally saw it growing up. And it was certainly a more extreme form, but it definitely, I think, it did make me think a bit more about race and population dynamics.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The violence that began to shape Damigo’s thinking on race also killed two of his close friends in combat. According to court documents obtained by El Tecolote and KQED, Damigo began suffering acute symptoms of PTSD as a result of his exposure to the Iraq War.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo blames that trauma for his decision to rob a San Diego cab driver at gunpoint after his return from Iraq.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During a psychological evaluation conducted for the court as part of the criminal case, Damigo said he attacked the cab driver, Changiz Ezzatyar, because he mistook him for an Iraqi. Damigo said the decision came after a night of solitary heavy drinking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Psychologist Heidi Kraft conducted another evaluation of Damigo after the assault. In her clinical notes, which were included in court documents from his trial, she wrote:\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'We don’t want to be seen as overly threatening.'\u003ccite>Nathan Damigo,\u003cbr>\nFounder of Identity Evropa\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“While there is no evidence that the patient experienced psychiatric dissociation during the robbery, his PTSD symptoms were so disabling, and his use of alcohol to self-medicate was so heavy, it appears that the combination of these factors led to a serious and uncharacteristic breakdown in both insight and judgment the night of his arrest.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kraft added that some PTSD patients engage in thrill-seeking behavior.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Based on this Marine’s history, which is free of any behavior even remotely similar to the night of his arrest, it is likely that he may have become one of those patients,” Kraft concluded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His family strongly defended Damigo during the court hearing, and his story was featured on the HBO documentary, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/wartorn-1861-2010\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"Wartorn,\"\u003c/a> as part of a broader series on post-traumatic stress disorder in veterans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It was like being dropped in a nightmare,\" his mother, Charilyn Damigo, told HBO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/2017/08/damigo.mp3\" Image=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/20170813_NathanDamigo_Credit_BertJohnson-1-1920x1280.jpg\" Title=\"Californian Who Helped Lead Charlottesville Protests Used Berkeley as a Test Run\" program=\"The California Report\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo's mother and others wrote letters to the court, urging leniency and understanding from the judge. But worried that a defense centered on PTSD would fail, Damigo accepted a plea deal and was sentenced to six years in prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was during that time that he started reading the words of former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, who remains a white supremacist leader and was at the Charlottesville event.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I became disillusioned after the Iraq War with mainstream narratives,” Damigo said. “Most of [Duke’s] arguments I just couldn’t debunk, no matter how hard I tried.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>College Students Seen as the Key to a Separate White Homeland\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Damigo's white supremacist group -- Identity Evropa -- is based in California but has chapters on college campuses throughout the country. The group has a high visibility on campuses from San Diego to Tuscaloosa to Charlottesville. On these campuses are fliers, banners, posters and bathroom graffiti advertising Identity Evropa videos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo’s views on race and nationalism may have been shaped by the four years in prison, but in many ways they are clear echoes of older white supremacists such as Duke. In an interview with KQED, Damigo said he believes white people need their own separate country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he added that he also wants his organization to be seen as more acceptable to a broader population. For example, Damigo has banned members of Identity Evropa from having tattoos on their faces, necks or hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We don’t want to be seen as overly threatening,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo also doesn’t swear, instead using words like “gosh” or “golly” in the place of expletives. And as other racists have argued for forceful relocation or purging of minority groups from American society, Damigo avoided talking about how he would create a white-only homeland.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'Universities are institutions where the cognitive elite of the youth tend to bottleneck. ... They are going to be the ones who are going to be most likely to bring about change, long-term institutional change.'\u003ccite>Nathan Damigo,\u003cbr>\nFounder of Identity Evropa\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>But he doesn’t avoid conflict. Instead -- as they did in Berkeley and Charlottesville -- Identity Evropa and aligned white supremacist groups seem to revel in goading counterprotesters into violent clashes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo also indicated that at this stage he’s more interested in recruiting members and building a durable movement than hammering out specific policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I mean, this is the stuff that will likely never happen in my lifetime,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To that end, Damigo said he is targeting college-educated white males as potential new members of Identity Evropa. That’s a big reason these rallies have been largely organized on college campuses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They’re not just protests. They’re recruitment drives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Universities are institutions where the cognitive elite of the youth tend to bottleneck,” Damigo said. “They are going to be the ones who are going to be most likely to bring about change, long-term institutional change.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s a strategy shared by Damigo’s friend, Richard Spencer, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">one of the most outspoken and visible members of the white supremacist movement\u003c/a>. Spencer heads the National Policy Institute, a white supremacy group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For better or for worse, I am not trying to reach each and every person who goes to a Trump rally,” Spencer told KQED prior to this weekend’s violence. “There are certainly more populist versions of the alt-right. I think it’s abundantly clear that I’m going after an elite.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This approach appears to be working for Identity Evropa, which has recruited more than 500 members at colleges across the country, according to Damigo. KQED could not independently verify that claim.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Brian Levin -- a noted hate-group researcher and professor at CSU San Bernardino's Department of Criminal Justice -- said he does not believe those numbers are accurate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wouldn't believe any membership claims by Damigo,\" Levin said. “Damigo is trying to not just be the opening act in the white supremacy movement. The membership of his group is far smaller.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I looked at whether white people thought black people are lazy and unintelligent, and there was an uptick in the youngest respondents. ... They’re showing a lot of prejudice, really.'\u003ccite>Jean Twenge,\u003cbr>\nSan Diego State University psychology professor, author\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>However, several prominent social scientists who have begun studying the rise of the hard right said they, too, are seeing a significant uptick of participation in racist groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of those researchers is Jean Twenge, a psychology professor at San Diego State University who wrote the book \"iGen.\" She said her research shows that a minority of people younger than 24 hold racist beliefs, but there has been an increase in those numbers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I looked at whether white people thought black people are lazy and unintelligent, and there was an uptick in the youngest respondents,” Twenge said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re showing a lot of prejudice, really,” she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twenge is unsure why this trend is happening. But she said anecdotally, there appears to be evidence that white nationalism is taking root among young men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Berkeley sociologist Arlie Hochschild agreed. During research for her book, \"Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right,\" she ran across a hardening of views among young men, specifically about blacks and Muslims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There was a great anger, especially with regards to groups like Black Lives Matter or American-Islamic groups,” Hochschild said. “There is a deep-rooted belief that in the past eight years, those groups have somehow cut to the front of the line, that their needs are being placed ahead of whites, especially white men.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That anger -- that somehow white history and status in society is being displaced by minority groups and women -- was a driving force and rallying cry among white supremacists in Charlottesville, who marched with tiki torches lit to protest the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue. The event to celebrate confederate and white heritage was organized locally by Jason Kessler, a local white nationalist.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'The more these people kick and scream and whine and cry, the more publicity we get. ... Publicity is a good thing. From a PR perspective we want people to talk about us.'\u003ccite>Nathan Damigo,\u003cbr>\nFounder of Identity Evropa\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>According to Richard Spencer, who spoke to KQED a few weeks before the violence and deaths in Charlottesville, Damigo and his group took the lead to organize white supremacist participation among people from outside Charlottesville.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’d love to take credit for it, but it was more Nathan,” Spencer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the outcome in Charlottesville is markedly different than it was in the Berkeley rally. Three people have died, including 32-year-old Heather Heyer, allegedly run over by an apparent white supremacist. Two Virginia State Police officers -- Pilot Lt. H. Jay Cullen and Trooper-Pilot Berke M.M. Bates -- died a few hours later when their patrol helicopter crashed en route to the scene of the violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo was arrested in Virginia for failing to disperse. He’s set up an online fundraiser for his legal costs related to what he describes as civil rights violations in Charlottesville.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prior to his arrest, Damigo said he was looking forward to more campus events. He told KQED one of his plans is to set up an event at UC Berkeley with Richard Spencer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The more these people kick and scream and whine and cry, the more publicity we get,” Damigo said. “Publicity is a good thing. From a PR perspective we want people to talk about us.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Editor's note: El Tecolote's Alexis Terrazas contributed to this story, which is presented in partnership with the San Francisco newspaper.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Nathan Damigo, leader of a California-based white nationalist group, was also a key figure in the Charlottesville, Virginia, protest that left three dead.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1502757879,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":71,"wordCount":2843},"headData":{"title":"Californian Who Helped Lead Charlottesville Protests Used Berkeley as a Test Run | KQED","description":"Nathan Damigo, leader of a California-based white nationalist group, was also a key figure in the Charlottesville, Virginia, protest that left three dead.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Californian Who Helped Lead Charlottesville Protests Used Berkeley as a Test Run","datePublished":"2017-08-14T07:01:51.000Z","dateModified":"2017-08-15T00:44:39.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11611600 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11611600","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/14/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run/","disqusTitle":"Californian Who Helped Lead Charlottesville Protests Used Berkeley as a Test Run","path":"/news/11611600/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">B\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>efore white nationalists \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/12/1-dead-after-car-plows-into-crowd-at-white-nationalist-protest-in-virginia/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">protested in Charlottesville\u003c/a> over the weekend, before a \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/08/13/ohio-man-charged-with-murder-in-fatal-car-attack-on-anti-white-nationalist-march/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">man allegedly plowed a car\u003c/a> into a group of people killing one and injuring at least 19, violent clashes in Berkeley offered a window into the motives and tactics of Identity Evropa, one of the white supremacist groups intimately involved in both protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For leaders of this white nationalist movement, the April 15 “Battle of Berkeley\" was a self-described test run to see just how far they could push the bounds of protesting, according to numerous \u003ca href=\"https://townhall.com/columnists/jackkerwick/2017/04/25/the-battle-of-berkeley-when-patriots-beat-the-antiamerican-left-n2317702\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">public statements\u003c/a> from members of the white supremacist movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nathan Damigo is a founder of the California-based Identity Evropa, \u003ca href=\"http://eltecolote.org/content/en/features/alternate-reality-growing-acceptance-of-white-nationalism-in-trumps-america/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">profiled by El Tecolote newspaper\u003c/a> in December. A former Marine infantryman and convicted felon who lives in Stanislaus County, Damigo is being credited with helping to lead the Charlottesville protest, along with other white supremacist rallies around the country. Damigo has made these rallies a key driver for recruiting new members of the group. He did not respond to requests for comment on Saturday about his involvement in the Charlottesville event following his arrest there.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I’d love to take credit for it, but it was more Nathan.'\u003ccite>Richard Spencer of the white supremacy group the National Policy Institute on Nathan Damigo's organization around a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Aug. 12.\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>But over the course of multiple hourlong interviews over several months this year, Damigo, 31, said his group is engaged in peaceful protests protected by the First Amendment. Before Charlottesville, Damigo was probably best known for punching a 19-year-old woman in the face in Berkeley. That moment was \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8GVtXfATtI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">captured on video\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the video, Damigo -- sporting a hipster haircut, collared shirt and clenched fists -- runs up to a young, dreadlocked woman holding a camera and punches her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo told KQED he punched the woman because she was a threat; because she was going to attack his friends; because she was a member of Antifa, a leftist confederation of socialists and anarchists -- some of whom have committed acts of violence and arson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Essentially, Damigo said he punched her because he had to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She joined this organization and came with her local gang from Southern California, according to statements that she made on social media, to disrupt the events and to acquire scalps,” he said. “Furthermore, she was swinging around bottles, which is a deadly weapon, a foot-long wine bottle at people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s not what KQED witnessed at the scene of the attack, however.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What began with Damigo shouting provocative calls into a megaphone quickly turned into an all-out street brawl. Damigo was screaming \"hold the line,\" \"guard the flank\" and \"advance!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo violently moved through the crowd. Smoke bombs and flash grenades and glass bottles were thrown. Thick tear gas filled the air. Leftist protesters, many of them aging men, were beat up. Police were hit with firecrackers. At one point, Antifa (wearing black hoodies and masks) and the far right (wearing red hats, flag capes and paramilitary armor) fought over who could control a dumpster that was pushed down the street.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11611676\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1200px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11611676 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/C9ew14wUMAE6IKX-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A fight broke out over control of a dumpster after right- and left-wing demonstrators clashed in Berkeley on April 15. \u003ccite>(John Sepulvado/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Damigo found himself outside of the roaring street brawl he helped create. Alone for a moment, he stopped in the middle of the street. Then, he ran across the street, right up to the woman, and hit her. After she fell, Damigo turned, smiled and jumped back into the rolling scuffles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/05/nathan-damigo-punching-woman-berkeley-white-nationalism/\">Damigo’s involvement in the \"Battle of Berkeley\"\u003c/a> is an important moment for the white supremacist movement because it attracted supporters from around the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"A large amount of the violence that has occurred may be due to the inroads we are making,\" Damigo told an interviewer after the Berkeley events.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This frenetic, violent, yet charismatic man with extreme racist views helped organize the Charlottesville rally. And he’s helping to mobilize an entire generation of white supremacists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11611748\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 441px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11611748\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/download.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"441\" height=\"495\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/download.png 441w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/download-160x180.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/download-240x269.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/download-375x421.png 375w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 441px) 100vw, 441px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A graphic promoting the Charlottesville rally included the insignia of Damigo's group Identity Evropa in section \"I.\" of the snake.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>From Suburban California Kid to Imprisoned Felon\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Nathan Damigo was born in Lewiston, Maine. In a long conversation with KQED, he noted with irony that the community had accepted early groups of resettled refugees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I wouldn’t call them refugees,” Damigo said. “It was one of the first places they started doing the Somali immigration relocation thing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eventually, his mother moved the family to San Jose. In the South Bay, Damigo traced the beginning of his “race realist” awakening to feeling out of place in a multiracial city. He said he would feel uncomfortable in situations where he was the only white person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’d go over to a friend’s house, or something like that, and everybody’s speaking a different language,” Damigo said, “and you’re just sitting there awkwardly. There’s no connection there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11611678\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11611678\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/RS25148_20170427_NathanDamigo_credit_BertJohnson-2-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Nathan Damigo traces the beginning of his 'race realist' beliefs to his upbringing in the diverse city of San Jose. \u003ccite>(Bert Johnson/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Damigo went to Liberty Baptist School in San Jose through his senior year. His mother worked as a teacher there. Like so many other California kids of his age, he listened to bands like Metallica and Soundgarden, watched \"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,\" and dreamed of being a pro skater.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yet, as he aged, those dreams morphed into aspirations of a military career -- his father had served in the Marine Corps. Damigo said his desire to serve became more pronounced after the Sept. 11 attacks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I pretty much watched live as the second tower was hit,” he said. “That was a pretty big thing to watch.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I became disillusioned, after the Iraq War, with mainstream narratives. ... Most of [David Duke’s] arguments I just couldn’t debunk, no matter how hard I tried.'\u003ccite>Nathan Damigo, Founder of Identity Evropa\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Damigo also credited his socially conservative family, who he said raised him to have pride in the country, for influencing his decision to enlist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He would serve two deployments in Iraq in the infantry. It was on these tours that Damigo’s views on race began to be shaped by the violent conflict he saw on a daily basis -- killings, murders, explosions and misery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I saw them in Iraq, which is also a multireligious, multicultural society,” Damigo said. “And I generally saw it growing up. And it was certainly a more extreme form, but it definitely, I think, it did make me think a bit more about race and population dynamics.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The violence that began to shape Damigo’s thinking on race also killed two of his close friends in combat. According to court documents obtained by El Tecolote and KQED, Damigo began suffering acute symptoms of PTSD as a result of his exposure to the Iraq War.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo blames that trauma for his decision to rob a San Diego cab driver at gunpoint after his return from Iraq.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During a psychological evaluation conducted for the court as part of the criminal case, Damigo said he attacked the cab driver, Changiz Ezzatyar, because he mistook him for an Iraqi. Damigo said the decision came after a night of solitary heavy drinking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Psychologist Heidi Kraft conducted another evaluation of Damigo after the assault. In her clinical notes, which were included in court documents from his trial, she wrote:\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'We don’t want to be seen as overly threatening.'\u003ccite>Nathan Damigo,\u003cbr>\nFounder of Identity Evropa\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“While there is no evidence that the patient experienced psychiatric dissociation during the robbery, his PTSD symptoms were so disabling, and his use of alcohol to self-medicate was so heavy, it appears that the combination of these factors led to a serious and uncharacteristic breakdown in both insight and judgment the night of his arrest.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kraft added that some PTSD patients engage in thrill-seeking behavior.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Based on this Marine’s history, which is free of any behavior even remotely similar to the night of his arrest, it is likely that he may have become one of those patients,” Kraft concluded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His family strongly defended Damigo during the court hearing, and his story was featured on the HBO documentary, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/wartorn-1861-2010\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"Wartorn,\"\u003c/a> as part of a broader series on post-traumatic stress disorder in veterans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It was like being dropped in a nightmare,\" his mother, Charilyn Damigo, told HBO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"http://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/2017/08/damigo.mp3","image":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/20170813_NathanDamigo_Credit_BertJohnson-1-1920x1280.jpg","title":"Californian Who Helped Lead Charlottesville Protests Used Berkeley as a Test Run","program":"The California Report","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo's mother and others wrote letters to the court, urging leniency and understanding from the judge. But worried that a defense centered on PTSD would fail, Damigo accepted a plea deal and was sentenced to six years in prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was during that time that he started reading the words of former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, who remains a white supremacist leader and was at the Charlottesville event.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I became disillusioned after the Iraq War with mainstream narratives,” Damigo said. “Most of [Duke’s] arguments I just couldn’t debunk, no matter how hard I tried.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>College Students Seen as the Key to a Separate White Homeland\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Damigo's white supremacist group -- Identity Evropa -- is based in California but has chapters on college campuses throughout the country. The group has a high visibility on campuses from San Diego to Tuscaloosa to Charlottesville. On these campuses are fliers, banners, posters and bathroom graffiti advertising Identity Evropa videos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo’s views on race and nationalism may have been shaped by the four years in prison, but in many ways they are clear echoes of older white supremacists such as Duke. In an interview with KQED, Damigo said he believes white people need their own separate country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he added that he also wants his organization to be seen as more acceptable to a broader population. For example, Damigo has banned members of Identity Evropa from having tattoos on their faces, necks or hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We don’t want to be seen as overly threatening,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo also doesn’t swear, instead using words like “gosh” or “golly” in the place of expletives. And as other racists have argued for forceful relocation or purging of minority groups from American society, Damigo avoided talking about how he would create a white-only homeland.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'Universities are institutions where the cognitive elite of the youth tend to bottleneck. ... They are going to be the ones who are going to be most likely to bring about change, long-term institutional change.'\u003ccite>Nathan Damigo,\u003cbr>\nFounder of Identity Evropa\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>But he doesn’t avoid conflict. Instead -- as they did in Berkeley and Charlottesville -- Identity Evropa and aligned white supremacist groups seem to revel in goading counterprotesters into violent clashes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo also indicated that at this stage he’s more interested in recruiting members and building a durable movement than hammering out specific policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I mean, this is the stuff that will likely never happen in my lifetime,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To that end, Damigo said he is targeting college-educated white males as potential new members of Identity Evropa. That’s a big reason these rallies have been largely organized on college campuses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They’re not just protests. They’re recruitment drives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Universities are institutions where the cognitive elite of the youth tend to bottleneck,” Damigo said. “They are going to be the ones who are going to be most likely to bring about change, long-term institutional change.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s a strategy shared by Damigo’s friend, Richard Spencer, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">one of the most outspoken and visible members of the white supremacist movement\u003c/a>. Spencer heads the National Policy Institute, a white supremacy group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For better or for worse, I am not trying to reach each and every person who goes to a Trump rally,” Spencer told KQED prior to this weekend’s violence. “There are certainly more populist versions of the alt-right. I think it’s abundantly clear that I’m going after an elite.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This approach appears to be working for Identity Evropa, which has recruited more than 500 members at colleges across the country, according to Damigo. KQED could not independently verify that claim.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Brian Levin -- a noted hate-group researcher and professor at CSU San Bernardino's Department of Criminal Justice -- said he does not believe those numbers are accurate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I wouldn't believe any membership claims by Damigo,\" Levin said. “Damigo is trying to not just be the opening act in the white supremacy movement. The membership of his group is far smaller.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I looked at whether white people thought black people are lazy and unintelligent, and there was an uptick in the youngest respondents. ... They’re showing a lot of prejudice, really.'\u003ccite>Jean Twenge,\u003cbr>\nSan Diego State University psychology professor, author\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>However, several prominent social scientists who have begun studying the rise of the hard right said they, too, are seeing a significant uptick of participation in racist groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of those researchers is Jean Twenge, a psychology professor at San Diego State University who wrote the book \"iGen.\" She said her research shows that a minority of people younger than 24 hold racist beliefs, but there has been an increase in those numbers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I looked at whether white people thought black people are lazy and unintelligent, and there was an uptick in the youngest respondents,” Twenge said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re showing a lot of prejudice, really,” she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twenge is unsure why this trend is happening. But she said anecdotally, there appears to be evidence that white nationalism is taking root among young men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Berkeley sociologist Arlie Hochschild agreed. During research for her book, \"Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right,\" she ran across a hardening of views among young men, specifically about blacks and Muslims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There was a great anger, especially with regards to groups like Black Lives Matter or American-Islamic groups,” Hochschild said. “There is a deep-rooted belief that in the past eight years, those groups have somehow cut to the front of the line, that their needs are being placed ahead of whites, especially white men.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That anger -- that somehow white history and status in society is being displaced by minority groups and women -- was a driving force and rallying cry among white supremacists in Charlottesville, who marched with tiki torches lit to protest the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue. The event to celebrate confederate and white heritage was organized locally by Jason Kessler, a local white nationalist.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'The more these people kick and scream and whine and cry, the more publicity we get. ... Publicity is a good thing. From a PR perspective we want people to talk about us.'\u003ccite>Nathan Damigo,\u003cbr>\nFounder of Identity Evropa\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>According to Richard Spencer, who spoke to KQED a few weeks before the violence and deaths in Charlottesville, Damigo and his group took the lead to organize white supremacist participation among people from outside Charlottesville.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’d love to take credit for it, but it was more Nathan,” Spencer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the outcome in Charlottesville is markedly different than it was in the Berkeley rally. Three people have died, including 32-year-old Heather Heyer, allegedly run over by an apparent white supremacist. Two Virginia State Police officers -- Pilot Lt. H. Jay Cullen and Trooper-Pilot Berke M.M. Bates -- died a few hours later when their patrol helicopter crashed en route to the scene of the violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Damigo was arrested in Virginia for failing to disperse. He’s set up an online fundraiser for his legal costs related to what he describes as civil rights violations in Charlottesville.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prior to his arrest, Damigo said he was looking forward to more campus events. He told KQED one of his plans is to set up an event at UC Berkeley with Richard Spencer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The more these people kick and scream and whine and cry, the more publicity we get,” Damigo said. “Publicity is a good thing. From a PR perspective we want people to talk about us.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Editor's note: El Tecolote's Alexis Terrazas contributed to this story, which is presented in partnership with the San Francisco newspaper.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11611600/californian-who-helped-organize-charlottesville-protests-used-berkeley-as-a-test-run","authors":["11298","11328"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_129","news_21448","news_19542","news_21451","news_1100","news_17286","news_17041","news_20203","news_21025"],"featImg":"news_11611675","label":"news_72"}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. 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