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Lessons for U.S. Netizens from Behind China’s Great Firewall

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The Great Wall of China winds through lush green mountains with distant peaks in the background. The background features a transparent overlay of patterns made from semiconductors and binary code.
The Great Wall of China with distant mountains, overlaid with binary code and semiconductor patterns. (Photos by Cute Kitten Images, Yuichiro Chino, Eugene Mymrin and fotograzia / Getty Images; composite image by Gabriela Glueck / KQED)

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Are you going through “a very Chinese time in your life”? If so, maybe you’re one of the many American social media users who’ve jumped on the Chinamaxxing trend (or…you’re Chinese). But it’s more than just slippers in the house and hot water at breakfast — as Western netizens experience increased surveillance and censorship across internet platforms, they are ironically turning to one of the most repressive regimes in the world for respite. On today’s episode, Morgan talks to Yi-Ling Liu, author of The Wall Dancers: Searching for Freedom and Connection on the Chinese Internet, about the Chinese government’s history of internet censorship, how online creativity has still flourished inside China’s “walled garden,” and what Americans have to learn from our neighbors in the East. 


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