A bill in Sacramento would overhaul how California treats utilities when their equipment starts blazes. But it’s controversial, because it would set up a $21 billion dollar insurance fund, paid for largely by ratepayers. Host Lily Jamali asked them for their reflections as they've watched the legislature and state utility regulators work through the issues.
Guests: Loretta Lynch, former president of the California Public Utilities Commission, and Will Abrams, Tubbs Fire survivor