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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 20, episode 5, airs Thursday, July 10, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> returns for a three-part special to the Monterey Bay Area! This week’s episode begins in Seaside at \u003cstrong>The Meatery Butchery & Eatery\u003c/strong>, a butcher shop and restaurant run by a chef who’s built a local following for his bold sandwiches, house-made sausages, and ethically sourced steaks. Guests rave about the 18-hour smoked brisket, juicy pastrami Reuben with Brussels sprout kraut, and the pork belly bánh mì. In downtown Santa Cruz, \u003cstrong>Hanloh Thai Food\u003c/strong> serves deeply personal, seasonal Thai dishes inside a cozy natural wine bar and bookstore. From the double-fried chicken thighs of gai tod hat yai to the steamed black cod in a spicy lime broth, each dish is rooted in Chef Lalita Kaewsawang’s upbringing in Thailand and California. The episode wraps on the water at \u003cstrong>Schooners Monterey\u003c/strong>, where guests enjoy beautiful ocean views alongside sustainable seafood. Diners feast on cioppino brimming with shellfish in saffron-tomato broth, the fresh Dungeness crab BLT roll, and a classic ice cream sundae to end on a sweet note.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23520\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1620px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-23520\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/07/2005_Guests.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1620\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/07/2005_Guests.png 1620w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/07/2005_Guests-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/07/2005_Guests-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/07/2005_Guests-1536x1024.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1620px) 100vw, 1620px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Ashley Houts, Robert Fernandez and Vicki Traylor from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.themeateryseaside.com/\">\u003cstrong>The Meatery\u003c/strong> (Seaside)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.hanloh.com/\">\u003cstrong>Hanloh Thai Food\u003c/strong> (Santa Cruz)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://schoonersmonterey.com/\">\u003cstrong>Schooners \u003c/strong>(Monterey)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> A carnivore’s dream in Seaside…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It’s a monster of a beef rib.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …seasonal Thai cuisine in Santa Cruz…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s like fall and spring together in one plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and seaside slurps and sips in Monterey…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> A ton of fresh crab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …on a special Monterey Bay area edition of \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like “buttah”!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Delicious. Yeah. It’s like “buttah.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to a very special edition of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area.\u003c/em> Today we’re venturing down the coast to explore the scenic Monterey Bay area. We have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today are supervising naturalist Ashley Houts, retired school teacher Vicki Traylor, and real estate broker Robert Fernandez. Welcome, everyone. Are you ready for a good show?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, we are. We are great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> We’re so excited!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Robert gets us started with his favorite lunchtime hangout. From melt-in-your-mouth brisket to house-smoked cold cuts, all sustainably sourced from local ranches, it’s a true meat lover’s paradise. Located in Seaside, it’s The Meatery Butchery and Eatery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> Okay, so calamari po’boy. Meatball? One burger, one fry, please. Goomba now. Mac-n-cheese right now too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> We are The Meatery in Seaside, California. Shaking and baking, bro. We are a destination deli…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #1:\u003c/strong> Oregon Hill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> All the way from Oregon Hill to come here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #2:\u003c/strong> San Martin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #1:\u003c/strong> Yes, sir. That’s right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> …offering not just good sandwiches, but great sandwiches.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Customer:\u003c/strong> Mmm! The best.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> I took 30 years of being a chef and sandwiched it between two pieces of bread. I mean, our sandwiches are just unbelievable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> People walk in and they’re kind of like overwhelmed by all the things we have going on in here. We always kind of reassure them — “Take your time. There’s a lot to take in.” French inspiration in my culinary background. You can see it through the entire menu in all the offerings. We craft all of our own sausages in-house, probably 27 flavors on a given week. We offer about five different pâtés on a regular basis. We do amazing hand-cut steaks and roasts. We do all of our own dry aging in-house. We actually use a gravity technique where we hang all of our steaks. For our pastrami Reuben, we take American Wagyu brisket, and we cure that for 12 days before we pepper it and smoke it. Our signature item is actually our smoked brisket. We smoke it for 18 hours, so it just literally jiggles as we slice it. Just a spectacular piece of meat. Teaching is one of my core values. It has been ever since I’ve been in the business. As the consumer comes in and if I’m trying to talk to them about a new cut that they may not have experienced, being able to walk them through how to prepare it. Now when they come back in and they’re like, “My family loved this steak I made!” it’s a pretty cool experience at the end of the day. That’s a steak. My mantra is “Be great every day.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #3:\u003c/strong> Just checking out the dogs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> We’re definitely a family-owned and operated business, and by “operated” I mean literally almost every person in here is family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Any wedge fries or mac-n-cheese for you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> We all long for that personal connection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #4:\u003c/strong> Thank you, Chef.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> Cheers, guys. It’s why I became a chef — that experience of seeing somebody so satisfied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #4:\u003c/strong> Mm! That was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All:\u003c/strong> Salud!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Robert, besides being fun to say — The Meatery Butchery and Eatery…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …it’s a really special place, isn’t it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It is. Their array in the meat case is just spectacular. But also what they offer as far as lunch items and specials is really fantastic. Top of the list for me would definitely be the brisket. It’s just the right combination of char from the smoke, and it literally just falls apart. Super savory. It’s delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I heard Ashley over there going, “Ohh…”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mm, it just sounds so good! 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[Laughter]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2465\" data-end=\"2468\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2468\" data-end=\"2489\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> I would say one of their ribs would be more than enough for two people to share.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2570\" data-end=\"2573\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2573\" data-end=\"2592\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2598\" data-end=\"2601\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2601\" data-end=\"2618\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I know it’s called The Meatery, but what was really delicious that I would go back there for was their mac-n-cheese.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2735\" data-end=\"2738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2738\" data-end=\"2757\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh!\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2761\" data-end=\"2764\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2764\" data-end=\"2781\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did you try that?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2799\" data-end=\"2802\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2802\" data-end=\"2823\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, mac-n-cheese.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2842\" data-end=\"2845\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2845\" data-end=\"2862\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh, so it’s a blend of cheeses that’s just exquisite. We ordered one to share at the table and we’re all, like, just starting. Oh, it was gone in a flash.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3026\" data-end=\"3029\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3029\" data-end=\"3050\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] But the thing about their mac-n-cheese that’s different is it has a bit of, like, pimento flavor.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3157\" data-end=\"3160\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3160\" data-end=\"3181\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3186\" data-end=\"3189\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3189\" data-end=\"3206\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> My family, we love pimento cheese dip. It’s, like, the fact that that was, like, in their mac-n-cheese was so good. And they sell a container of it that you can take and bake at home, and I had it again that night because we got that container.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3451\" data-end=\"3454\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3454\" data-end=\"3473\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You got that container.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3497\" data-end=\"3500\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3500\" data-end=\"3517\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It was so good.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3533\" data-end=\"3536\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3536\" data-end=\"3554\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> They had a lot of beautiful things to take home, and I took home quite a few. [Laughter] They had these marinated mushrooms.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3679\" data-end=\"3682\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3682\" data-end=\"3699\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mmm.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3704\" data-end=\"3707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3707\" data-end=\"3725\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> All these, like, garlic butters and just all these things that would make a meal at home wonderful.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3825\" data-end=\"3828\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3828\" data-end=\"3849\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3856\" data-end=\"3859\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3859\" data-end=\"3878\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Meatery, butchery, eatery, shoppery.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3915\" data-end=\"3918\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3918\" data-end=\"3936\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> There you go.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3950\" data-end=\"3953\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3953\" data-end=\"3970\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3979\" data-end=\"3982\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3982\" data-end=\"4003\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> One-stop shop.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4021\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4021\" data-end=\"4040\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] Alright. If you would like to try The Meatery Butchery & Eatery, it’s located on Fremont Boulevard in Seaside. And the average tab per person without drinks is around $30. Vicki’s restaurant is the quintessential definition of a hidden gem. Tucked inside a rare and used book shop, it’s a cozy little spot for curries, roti, and other traditional Thai delights. Located in downtown Santa Cruz, it’s Hanloh Thai Food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Lalita Kaewsawang:\u003c/strong> Hanloh Thai Food — well, we cook really good Thai food, and a lot of them come from my childhood. So this is nam prik lon, the crabmeat coconut relish. I always try to tell a story. Every dish that’s on the menu has a part of me in it somewhere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Hanloh started in 2018. We were doing pop-ups and catering everywhere. And in 2021, I got a call from Bad Animal, which is a bookstore and a wine bar in Santa Cruz, to be a chef residency. It’s pretty casual, very Santa Cruz. Never in my life I thought I would be opening a restaurant in a bookstore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I started cooking because that’s how I stay connected to home. My mother is a street food vendor in Bangkok, and she’s really inspired me to cook. The street vendors have very focused menus and I love their movements. I love how meticulous their ingredients are. I’m very inspired by that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I established my career in Santa Cruz, I started to realize, to make this unique, you have to use local ingredients.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the dishes on our menu is roti martabak, which has a lot of Indian influence and Muslim influence. My mother is Muslim Thai. So this is a dish that is a homage to my mom and to her heritage. So I chose to make it all vegan. It’s like a blend of Thai culture and Santa Cruz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The nice part about us being in a bookstore is sometimes when people have to wait, they can get a glass of wine and browse the book, and it doesn’t feel like they’re actually waiting that much longer. They wait for a while, but it doesn’t feel like it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our food is made for sharing, so order family style, a couple glasses of wine. It’s pretty chill. [Laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, Vicki, so, hidden inside a used bookstore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It’s called Bad Animal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> And the Bad Animal is an American badger, which is one of my favorite animals! I sat —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You can tell us about that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah! They’re ferocious, but so cool. But I sat right underneath a taxidermied badger. Just like all the stuff on the wall — not just the bookstore — the bookstore was wonderful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It’s just — it’s such a great feeling when you’re in there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Very Santa Cruz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Very Santa Cruz. That’s a great point.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I just kept saying, “This place is so hip.” You’re hanging out, you’re talking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They’re not turning tables.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> They’re not. That’s not what they’re for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Vicki, so many dishes to try. But do you have a favorite?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I do. My favorite is an appetizer. I think it’s called nam prik lon. And it is a beautiful crab custard with a lot of fresh crab. It has makrut leaves. The preparation of all the vegetables is like a feast for the eyes. And then the shrimp crackers that you dip in. And it’s absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> So we sat down and we saw this dish keep going out to all of these different tables, and we asked our server, “What is that?” And she said, “Oh, it’s my favorite salad. You have to get it.” It was the yum galumpii. It was with tofu. Just perfectly cooked. Crispy on the outside, warm and soft, like almost gooey tofu on the inside. It had all of the cabbage and cilantro and lime, was really, really fresh flavors. But then there was a crunch with the peanuts in there. We just devoured it, and I could have just had like three of those salads for my dinner. I crave it, and I want to go back for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you start with anything?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> I did. I had the scallop salad, and that salad — I would go back just for that salad. It was so good. The scallops with a dried shrimp also. They just — they were paired beautifully together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Have you had this salad before?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We did, we did. It just — the scallops are melt-in-your-mouth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And then, yeah, it comes with lettuce so you can wrap it. It was just dressed perfectly, because you could taste the makrut lime, you could taste the fish sauce. But nothing was overpowering. Just fresh and delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So a good way to start, with a salad, one of the salads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Good way to start is with the salad. The fried chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Oh, gosh. The fried chicken is just perfectly prepared.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All three of you are going…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes. The fried chicken, super crispy on the outside, super juicy on the inside, paired with a sauce that was just really a nice complement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It was perfectly fried.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And the presentation is so beautiful. They’ve made the cucumber look so pretty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> It’s so good. It’s — always. Melt in your mouth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I love the cod.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> You talked about “melt in your mouth” with the other dish, but the cod…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s fabulous. And it’s local and it’s sustainable, but it just flakes apart. And it was like we just kept saying, like, “Is this butter? Are we eating butter?” ’cause it was just so flavorful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And it’s steamed in a broth, a spicy kind of…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> …lemongrass broth with a little chili. I mean, it so perfect…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Lime and coconut in there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> …to put the jasmine rice in to soak it all up. So it was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> And then the wine, they have all these natural wines. We got this really nice German white wine that paired perfectly with everything we got.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> We haven’t talked about the roti.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s delicious. We had the roti.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> You did?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes, we did. And it’s stuffed with yams and caramelized onions. And I was like, “Oh, my gosh, it feels like I’m eating fall.” But it’s paired with a really light cucumber salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I was like, oh, my goodness. The combination, it’s like fall and spring together in one plate. It was so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> What did you get for dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> A coconut-pandan custard. And the waiter that brought it out, he, like, leaned over to us and said, “You’re gonna love this. I can’t get enough of it.” And so the custard itself was really thick, but also light, because it’s coconut, but it was green. And I was like, “Wait, why is it green?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Pandan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Well, pandan is — yeah. It’s like a tropical plant…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Oh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> …that’s mixed in with the coconut. And it was served with this brioche bread. The brioche was so buttery and you dip it in there, and, ohh, it was so good. But we also got the coconut ice cream with that beautiful cookie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> With the little cookie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> With the cookie. Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> So delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s so pretty too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Didn’t last. It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Ours didn’t either.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I feel like the dishes were like her work of art, the chef’s work of art.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The quality and the preparation of everything that we received that day that we ordered was really great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Every person I know that has gone there has really loved it, so I’m happy that you liked it too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Well, you can count one more on that list. It was very tasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Two more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Enjoyed it very.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, if you would like to try Hanloh Thai Food, it’s located on Cedar Street in Santa Cruz. The average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $75.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ashley’s nautically themed restaurant holds a special place in her heart. It’s where she got engaged. Step onto the terrace with a cocktail in hand and the ocean breeze in your hair, and it’s not hard to feel a romantic vibe settling in. Located inside Monterey Plaza Hotel, it’s Schooners Monterey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>[music playing]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Rotondo:\u003c/strong> Schooners is really our quintessential Monterey restaurant. Our location is right on Cannery Row. Very historic. You can see one of the last canneries adjacent to our restaurant. I’m originally from Boston, Massachusetts. I gravitate towards water, so being here on the Pacific really makes me feel at home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our menu is based on the seasons. All our seafood is sustainable. We really listen to our fishermen. Whatever type of seafood is at the highest quality is what kind of is gonna get my attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Rotondo:\u003c/strong> I’m really super proud that we put on some local Monterey anchovies. We cure it, pickle it, and it goes on this amazing toasted focaccia bread. Just a couple one-biters, but it really is a great way to start your meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #1:\u003c/strong> Tell me when.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> That’s when. When.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Rotondo:\u003c/strong> A lot of people ask me what is the secret to our clam chowder. Well, it is a secret, but we do use sherry wine that has this beautiful kind of undertone. It’s creamy. It’s delicious. It’s super yummy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We hollow out this sourdough bread that is made to order. So have that with a beautiful IPA, and you’re good to go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our seafood pasta — the pasta is made daily. We do have some dry-aged steaks on the menu too, so it’s not all seafood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This view is unbelievable. On any given day when you’re sitting out here at Schooners patio, you’re gonna see sea otters, you’re gonna see sea lions, you’re gonna see the fog kind of rolling in. You’re also potentially gonna get wet by some of these crashing waves that can hit the sides of these rocks. You get a splash. And that’s kind of part of the experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s really beautiful, very tranquil. But also there’s a jovial kind of ambiance to our dining room. It’s a pretty fun time here at Schooners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Ashley, this might not be your typical hotel restaurant, right? How did you discover this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s definitely not. So the first time we stayed there, we were celebrating my husband graduating fire academy, which is a big deal for firefighters. The next time we went there, he proposed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ohh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Ohh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> And it was one of those places where even if you’re not celebrating an engagement, you know, or a birthday, it’s just such a beautiful place to go for a meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> When you walk into the doors of the restaurant, you’re actually walking out into that outdoor terrace area from where we entered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It feels like you’re on a boat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, it does!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> You’re suspended over the bay. The wind’s blowing, but then they have the heaters so you’re not cold. And I always come equipped with my binoculars because I love wildlife, so I’m out there looking for otters and they’re always right there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We ate inside right by the window. Absolutely gorgeous views of everything. I loved it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes. Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And the food is an event in itself, right? You can get big towers, and you can get all sorts of things, sardines and…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did anybody have the Supreme Plaza Mary? This Bloody Mary, it’s like a meal in a glass in itself. It’s a big, beautiful goblet. And it comes with two thick slices of bacon and these perfectly poached shrimp. There’s blue-cheese-stuffed olives. There’s pepperoncinis. It’s just like so many things. And then it’s a perfect spiciness. To be out there with the wind in your hair. Or inside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So that’s your appetizer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> That’s your appetizer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> We started out with the burrata. Burrata was visually beautiful. First bite I was a little disappointed that it wasn’t more flavorful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Gooey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> But beautifully prepared dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Over arugula and sliced tomatoes and watermelon around the outside, with this delicious, delicious sourdough with balsamic glaze. It just — it was so delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then we got the most amazing salad, the Pacific seafood salad. And it had poached prawns that were fabulous, but a ton of fresh crab, very generous. And sliced ahi that was seared perfectly. The sesame dressing. It was so good. I will go back for that salad any time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Well, the one dish that I will definitely go back for were the brined anchovies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Ohh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The anchovy dish…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They’re known for that dish. Yeah, absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The brined anchovies were just amazing. Perfectly brined. Really nice salt. And it also had olive tapenade. The dish was amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did anybody have the clam chowder?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It’s delicious. Perfect creaminess. The potatoes were just the right size.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Right? It’s really creamy and rich, but it’s not so thick. It’s still light. The clams themselves, just like butter, melt in your mouth —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Like “buttah”!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah. It’s like buttah. So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Let me tell you about the tuna poke. The tuna poke was really marvelous also. The way it was prepared with the sticky rice, avocado. There was one thing that I felt that it could have done without, and that was the mango. For me, the mango took a little bit away from the tuna, but the tuna poke itself was a really beautiful dish. Oh, gosh, I’d go back for all of them. It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You’re shaking your head, Ashley. You’ve had that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes, I’ve had that before. They do a great job with all of their “raw bar,” they call it — their oysters, you can get a seafood tower, their ceviche. Mm!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We also got the crab BLT.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It had so much crab. And it was served on this thick, soft, beautiful brioche, which I will say didn’t hold up that well because they had so much crab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Just so much crab. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> But it didn’t matter. I ate it with a knife and fork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Not a real complaint.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> That’s a terrible problem to have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And it had the bacon. And somebody was like, “I would think the bacon would take away from the crab.” No. It was so delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did anyone have the mussels?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> No, did not have the mussels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But I can see that look in your eye like…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Like that they were good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> So good. I mean, and if you like the Thai flavors of coconut and lime, they’re so fresh. They’re just really plump, beautiful, big mussels, but so tender. And it comes with, again, that really nice sourdough crostini and can sop up everything and then use your spoon when the bread runs out ’cause it’s such a good sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The dish that I was really impressed with was the cioppino. It comes out in a pot. I’ve got to tell you, the amount of seafood in this cioppino was really impressive. Shrimp. Clams. Mussels. Seasonal fish. It’s a saffron-based sauce that’s just really so beautifully seasoned. And the waiter was really generous enough to see that I was done with the bread that came with the actual dish, so he brought additional bread for me because —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s because it’s “sop-up-able.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, yes, that is —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Sop-up-able.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> That’s the technical term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What about desserts? Any room, anyone?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Well, we didn’t, but my granddaughter, she got the ice cream sundae. And of course we took bites and —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> “My granddaughter got it, not me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Not me. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …seasonal Thai cuisine in Santa Cruz…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s like fall and spring together in one plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and seaside slurps and sips in Monterey…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> A ton of fresh crab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …on a special Monterey Bay area edition of \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like “buttah”!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Delicious. Yeah. It’s like “buttah.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to a very special edition of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area.\u003c/em> Today we’re venturing down the coast to explore the scenic Monterey Bay area. We have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today are supervising naturalist Ashley Houts, retired school teacher Vicki Traylor, and real estate broker Robert Fernandez. Welcome, everyone. Are you ready for a good show?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, we are. We are great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> We’re so excited!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Robert gets us started with his favorite lunchtime hangout. From melt-in-your-mouth brisket to house-smoked cold cuts, all sustainably sourced from local ranches, it’s a true meat lover’s paradise. Located in Seaside, it’s The Meatery Butchery and Eatery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> Okay, so calamari po’boy. Meatball? One burger, one fry, please. Goomba now. Mac-n-cheese right now too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> We are The Meatery in Seaside, California. Shaking and baking, bro. We are a destination deli…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #1:\u003c/strong> Oregon Hill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> All the way from Oregon Hill to come here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #2:\u003c/strong> San Martin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #1:\u003c/strong> Yes, sir. That’s right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> …offering not just good sandwiches, but great sandwiches.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Customer:\u003c/strong> Mmm! The best.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> I took 30 years of being a chef and sandwiched it between two pieces of bread. I mean, our sandwiches are just unbelievable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> People walk in and they’re kind of like overwhelmed by all the things we have going on in here. We always kind of reassure them — “Take your time. There’s a lot to take in.” French inspiration in my culinary background. You can see it through the entire menu in all the offerings. We craft all of our own sausages in-house, probably 27 flavors on a given week. We offer about five different pâtés on a regular basis. We do amazing hand-cut steaks and roasts. We do all of our own dry aging in-house. We actually use a gravity technique where we hang all of our steaks. For our pastrami Reuben, we take American Wagyu brisket, and we cure that for 12 days before we pepper it and smoke it. Our signature item is actually our smoked brisket. We smoke it for 18 hours, so it just literally jiggles as we slice it. Just a spectacular piece of meat. Teaching is one of my core values. It has been ever since I’ve been in the business. As the consumer comes in and if I’m trying to talk to them about a new cut that they may not have experienced, being able to walk them through how to prepare it. Now when they come back in and they’re like, “My family loved this steak I made!” it’s a pretty cool experience at the end of the day. That’s a steak. My mantra is “Be great every day.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #3:\u003c/strong> Just checking out the dogs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> We’re definitely a family-owned and operated business, and by “operated” I mean literally almost every person in here is family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Any wedge fries or mac-n-cheese for you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> We all long for that personal connection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #4:\u003c/strong> Thank you, Chef.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Fisher:\u003c/strong> Cheers, guys. It’s why I became a chef — that experience of seeing somebody so satisfied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #4:\u003c/strong> Mm! That was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All:\u003c/strong> Salud!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Robert, besides being fun to say — The Meatery Butchery and Eatery…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …it’s a really special place, isn’t it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It is. Their array in the meat case is just spectacular. But also what they offer as far as lunch items and specials is really fantastic. Top of the list for me would definitely be the brisket. It’s just the right combination of char from the smoke, and it literally just falls apart. Super savory. It’s delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I heard Ashley over there going, “Ohh…”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mm, it just sounds so good! Because I didn’t have that one. I had the Reuben, which was…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I love a Reuben. If I see it on a menu and we’re getting sandwiches, that’s what I’m gonna get. But it’s different here at The Meatery because it’s not your traditional sauerkraut. It’s a Brussels sprout kraut…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Oh, wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> …which is also fun to say. Brussels sprout kraut. But it was delicious. Like, I could have just a side of that alone. But the meat was, like you said, with the brisket just like falling apart, melt in your mouth, so juicy. One of those sandwiches while you’re eating it, it’s dripping down your arms and you don’t care because it’s just so tasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Wah. Well, I was disappointed because we were there at about 12:40 and they were out of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Oh, no!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Ah. Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Out of the brisket and the Reuben?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> No, they were out of the Reuben.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> But then I did ask to get a sample of the brisket. It was, as you said, it was just like melt in your mouth, like you could just cut it with your fork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> So we just had a sample of that. My husband got the Goomba, which is it’s basically an Italian sub. And it was really delicious. The bread was very soft and perfect with sesame seeds on the top. We also had delicious potato salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"371\" data-end=\"388\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mmm!\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"393\" data-end=\"396\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"396\" data-end=\"414\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I loved it.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"426\" data-end=\"429\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"429\" data-end=\"450\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> They also do a Caesar salad. It’s one of the Caesar salads to which others aspire to be.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"539\" data-end=\"542\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"542\" data-end=\"559\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Wow, ooh, I’ll have to try.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"587\" data-end=\"590\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"590\" data-end=\"611\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Perfectly seasoned dressing. And it also features potato wedges, which you wouldn’t necessarily see in a Caesar salad, but it works so well. Crunchy on the outside. Really nice and soft on the inside. So flavorful. And it’s just — it’s a beautifully prepared salad. And don’t miss the pâté. It’s a French country-style pâté accompanied with a lovely mustard, cornichons, fried capers, and a beautiful baguette. It’s just spectacular. He has an amazing curated list of wines that he offers. That particular day I had the CdP. I will spare myself with trying to pronounce it correctly.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1195\" data-end=\"1198\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1198\" data-end=\"1217\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The Châteauneuf-du-Pape.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1242\" data-end=\"1245\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1245\" data-end=\"1266\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> That one. [Laughs] And it was amazing because it paired so well with everything that we had ordered that day on the menu.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1388\" data-end=\"1391\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1391\" data-end=\"1409\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I had the bánh mì sandwich. So it did have pâté, and it was delicious. Not too fatty, and succulent. And the jalapeños and the pickled vegetables, and the bánh mì bread was beautiful.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1593\" data-end=\"1596\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1596\" data-end=\"1615\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Have you had the bánh mì before?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1648\" data-end=\"1651\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1651\" data-end=\"1672\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> I have had the bánh mì, and it is also a very, very good sandwich. It’s really hard to pick because there’s so many great options there. Also the po’boy. A calamari steak po’boy, which was just great.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1873\" data-end=\"1876\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1893\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Oooh.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1899\" data-end=\"1902\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1902\" data-end=\"1923\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Really nice crunch to the calamari that’s really perfectly breaded. Juicy, soft. It has this relish on it that pairs so nicely with the calamari. Super-soft bread. It’s amazing. The other item that I don’t know if you had a chance to try is the beef rib. It’s a monster of a beef rib. The char that it has on it. And just…\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2248\" data-end=\"2251\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2251\" data-end=\"2269\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Like the brisket.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2287\" data-end=\"2290\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2290\" data-end=\"2311\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, and just how juicy it is and flavorful and melts in your mouth. It’s an amazing rib.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2401\" data-end=\"2404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2404\" data-end=\"2423\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Is it for one person? Or five? [Laughter]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2465\" data-end=\"2468\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2468\" data-end=\"2489\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> I would say one of their ribs would be more than enough for two people to share.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2570\" data-end=\"2573\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2573\" data-end=\"2592\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2598\" data-end=\"2601\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2601\" data-end=\"2618\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I know it’s called The Meatery, but what was really delicious that I would go back there for was their mac-n-cheese.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2735\" data-end=\"2738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2738\" data-end=\"2757\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh!\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2761\" data-end=\"2764\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2764\" data-end=\"2781\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did you try that?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2799\" data-end=\"2802\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2802\" data-end=\"2823\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, mac-n-cheese.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2842\" data-end=\"2845\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2845\" data-end=\"2862\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh, so it’s a blend of cheeses that’s just exquisite. We ordered one to share at the table and we’re all, like, just starting. Oh, it was gone in a flash.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3026\" data-end=\"3029\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3029\" data-end=\"3050\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] But the thing about their mac-n-cheese that’s different is it has a bit of, like, pimento flavor.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3157\" data-end=\"3160\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3160\" data-end=\"3181\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3186\" data-end=\"3189\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3189\" data-end=\"3206\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> My family, we love pimento cheese dip. It’s, like, the fact that that was, like, in their mac-n-cheese was so good. And they sell a container of it that you can take and bake at home, and I had it again that night because we got that container.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3451\" data-end=\"3454\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3454\" data-end=\"3473\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You got that container.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3497\" data-end=\"3500\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3500\" data-end=\"3517\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It was so good.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3533\" data-end=\"3536\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3536\" data-end=\"3554\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> They had a lot of beautiful things to take home, and I took home quite a few. [Laughter] They had these marinated mushrooms.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3679\" data-end=\"3682\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3682\" data-end=\"3699\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mmm.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3704\" data-end=\"3707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3707\" data-end=\"3725\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> All these, like, garlic butters and just all these things that would make a meal at home wonderful.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3825\" data-end=\"3828\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3828\" data-end=\"3849\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3856\" data-end=\"3859\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3859\" data-end=\"3878\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Meatery, butchery, eatery, shoppery.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3915\" data-end=\"3918\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3918\" data-end=\"3936\">Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> There you go.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3950\" data-end=\"3953\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3953\" data-end=\"3970\">Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3979\" data-end=\"3982\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3982\" data-end=\"4003\">Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> One-stop shop.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4021\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4021\" data-end=\"4040\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] Alright. If you would like to try The Meatery Butchery & Eatery, it’s located on Fremont Boulevard in Seaside. And the average tab per person without drinks is around $30. Vicki’s restaurant is the quintessential definition of a hidden gem. Tucked inside a rare and used book shop, it’s a cozy little spot for curries, roti, and other traditional Thai delights. Located in downtown Santa Cruz, it’s Hanloh Thai Food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Lalita Kaewsawang:\u003c/strong> Hanloh Thai Food — well, we cook really good Thai food, and a lot of them come from my childhood. So this is nam prik lon, the crabmeat coconut relish. I always try to tell a story. Every dish that’s on the menu has a part of me in it somewhere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Hanloh started in 2018. We were doing pop-ups and catering everywhere. And in 2021, I got a call from Bad Animal, which is a bookstore and a wine bar in Santa Cruz, to be a chef residency. It’s pretty casual, very Santa Cruz. Never in my life I thought I would be opening a restaurant in a bookstore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I started cooking because that’s how I stay connected to home. My mother is a street food vendor in Bangkok, and she’s really inspired me to cook. The street vendors have very focused menus and I love their movements. I love how meticulous their ingredients are. I’m very inspired by that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I established my career in Santa Cruz, I started to realize, to make this unique, you have to use local ingredients.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the dishes on our menu is roti martabak, which has a lot of Indian influence and Muslim influence. My mother is Muslim Thai. So this is a dish that is a homage to my mom and to her heritage. So I chose to make it all vegan. It’s like a blend of Thai culture and Santa Cruz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The nice part about us being in a bookstore is sometimes when people have to wait, they can get a glass of wine and browse the book, and it doesn’t feel like they’re actually waiting that much longer. They wait for a while, but it doesn’t feel like it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our food is made for sharing, so order family style, a couple glasses of wine. It’s pretty chill. [Laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, Vicki, so, hidden inside a used bookstore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It’s called Bad Animal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> And the Bad Animal is an American badger, which is one of my favorite animals! I sat —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You can tell us about that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah! They’re ferocious, but so cool. But I sat right underneath a taxidermied badger. Just like all the stuff on the wall — not just the bookstore — the bookstore was wonderful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It’s just — it’s such a great feeling when you’re in there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Very Santa Cruz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Very Santa Cruz. That’s a great point.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I just kept saying, “This place is so hip.” You’re hanging out, you’re talking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They’re not turning tables.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> They’re not. That’s not what they’re for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Vicki, so many dishes to try. But do you have a favorite?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I do. My favorite is an appetizer. I think it’s called nam prik lon. And it is a beautiful crab custard with a lot of fresh crab. It has makrut leaves. The preparation of all the vegetables is like a feast for the eyes. And then the shrimp crackers that you dip in. And it’s absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> So we sat down and we saw this dish keep going out to all of these different tables, and we asked our server, “What is that?” And she said, “Oh, it’s my favorite salad. You have to get it.” It was the yum galumpii. It was with tofu. Just perfectly cooked. Crispy on the outside, warm and soft, like almost gooey tofu on the inside. It had all of the cabbage and cilantro and lime, was really, really fresh flavors. But then there was a crunch with the peanuts in there. We just devoured it, and I could have just had like three of those salads for my dinner. I crave it, and I want to go back for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you start with anything?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> I did. I had the scallop salad, and that salad — I would go back just for that salad. It was so good. The scallops with a dried shrimp also. They just — they were paired beautifully together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Have you had this salad before?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We did, we did. It just — the scallops are melt-in-your-mouth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And then, yeah, it comes with lettuce so you can wrap it. It was just dressed perfectly, because you could taste the makrut lime, you could taste the fish sauce. But nothing was overpowering. Just fresh and delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So a good way to start, with a salad, one of the salads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Good way to start is with the salad. The fried chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Oh, gosh. The fried chicken is just perfectly prepared.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All three of you are going…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes. The fried chicken, super crispy on the outside, super juicy on the inside, paired with a sauce that was just really a nice complement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It was perfectly fried.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And the presentation is so beautiful. They’ve made the cucumber look so pretty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> It’s so good. It’s — always. Melt in your mouth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> I love the cod.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> You talked about “melt in your mouth” with the other dish, but the cod…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s fabulous. And it’s local and it’s sustainable, but it just flakes apart. And it was like we just kept saying, like, “Is this butter? Are we eating butter?” ’cause it was just so flavorful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And it’s steamed in a broth, a spicy kind of…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> …lemongrass broth with a little chili. I mean, it so perfect…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Lime and coconut in there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> …to put the jasmine rice in to soak it all up. So it was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> And then the wine, they have all these natural wines. We got this really nice German white wine that paired perfectly with everything we got.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> We haven’t talked about the roti.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s delicious. We had the roti.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> You did?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes, we did. And it’s stuffed with yams and caramelized onions. And I was like, “Oh, my gosh, it feels like I’m eating fall.” But it’s paired with a really light cucumber salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I was like, oh, my goodness. The combination, it’s like fall and spring together in one plate. It was so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> What did you get for dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> A coconut-pandan custard. And the waiter that brought it out, he, like, leaned over to us and said, “You’re gonna love this. I can’t get enough of it.” And so the custard itself was really thick, but also light, because it’s coconut, but it was green. And I was like, “Wait, why is it green?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Pandan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Well, pandan is — yeah. It’s like a tropical plant…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Oh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> …that’s mixed in with the coconut. And it was served with this brioche bread. The brioche was so buttery and you dip it in there, and, ohh, it was so good. But we also got the coconut ice cream with that beautiful cookie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> With the little cookie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> With the cookie. Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> So delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s so pretty too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Didn’t last. It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Ours didn’t either.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> I feel like the dishes were like her work of art, the chef’s work of art.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The quality and the preparation of everything that we received that day that we ordered was really great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Every person I know that has gone there has really loved it, so I’m happy that you liked it too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Well, you can count one more on that list. It was very tasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Two more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Enjoyed it very.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, if you would like to try Hanloh Thai Food, it’s located on Cedar Street in Santa Cruz. The average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $75.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ashley’s nautically themed restaurant holds a special place in her heart. It’s where she got engaged. Step onto the terrace with a cocktail in hand and the ocean breeze in your hair, and it’s not hard to feel a romantic vibe settling in. Located inside Monterey Plaza Hotel, it’s Schooners Monterey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>[music playing]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Rotondo:\u003c/strong> Schooners is really our quintessential Monterey restaurant. Our location is right on Cannery Row. Very historic. You can see one of the last canneries adjacent to our restaurant. I’m originally from Boston, Massachusetts. I gravitate towards water, so being here on the Pacific really makes me feel at home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our menu is based on the seasons. All our seafood is sustainable. We really listen to our fishermen. Whatever type of seafood is at the highest quality is what kind of is gonna get my attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Rotondo:\u003c/strong> I’m really super proud that we put on some local Monterey anchovies. We cure it, pickle it, and it goes on this amazing toasted focaccia bread. Just a couple one-biters, but it really is a great way to start your meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #1:\u003c/strong> Tell me when.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> That’s when. When.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Michael Rotondo:\u003c/strong> A lot of people ask me what is the secret to our clam chowder. Well, it is a secret, but we do use sherry wine that has this beautiful kind of undertone. It’s creamy. It’s delicious. It’s super yummy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We hollow out this sourdough bread that is made to order. So have that with a beautiful IPA, and you’re good to go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our seafood pasta — the pasta is made daily. We do have some dry-aged steaks on the menu too, so it’s not all seafood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This view is unbelievable. On any given day when you’re sitting out here at Schooners patio, you’re gonna see sea otters, you’re gonna see sea lions, you’re gonna see the fog kind of rolling in. You’re also potentially gonna get wet by some of these crashing waves that can hit the sides of these rocks. You get a splash. And that’s kind of part of the experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s really beautiful, very tranquil. But also there’s a jovial kind of ambiance to our dining room. It’s a pretty fun time here at Schooners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Ashley, this might not be your typical hotel restaurant, right? How did you discover this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> It’s definitely not. So the first time we stayed there, we were celebrating my husband graduating fire academy, which is a big deal for firefighters. 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And I always come equipped with my binoculars because I love wildlife, so I’m out there looking for otters and they’re always right there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We ate inside right by the window. Absolutely gorgeous views of everything. I loved it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes. Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And the food is an event in itself, right? You can get big towers, and you can get all sorts of things, sardines and…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did anybody have the Supreme Plaza Mary? This Bloody Mary, it’s like a meal in a glass in itself. It’s a big, beautiful goblet. And it comes with two thick slices of bacon and these perfectly poached shrimp. There’s blue-cheese-stuffed olives. There’s pepperoncinis. It’s just like so many things. And then it’s a perfect spiciness. To be out there with the wind in your hair. Or inside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So that’s your appetizer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> That’s your appetizer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> We started out with the burrata. Burrata was visually beautiful. First bite I was a little disappointed that it wasn’t more flavorful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Gooey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> But beautifully prepared dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Over arugula and sliced tomatoes and watermelon around the outside, with this delicious, delicious sourdough with balsamic glaze. It just — it was so delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then we got the most amazing salad, the Pacific seafood salad. And it had poached prawns that were fabulous, but a ton of fresh crab, very generous. And sliced ahi that was seared perfectly. The sesame dressing. It was so good. I will go back for that salad any time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Well, the one dish that I will definitely go back for were the brined anchovies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Ohh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The anchovy dish…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They’re known for that dish. Yeah, absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The brined anchovies were just amazing. Perfectly brined. Really nice salt. And it also had olive tapenade. The dish was amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did anybody have the clam chowder?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It’s delicious. Perfect creaminess. The potatoes were just the right size.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Right? It’s really creamy and rich, but it’s not so thick. It’s still light. The clams themselves, just like butter, melt in your mouth —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Like “buttah”!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah. It’s like buttah. So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Let me tell you about the tuna poke. The tuna poke was really marvelous also. The way it was prepared with the sticky rice, avocado. There was one thing that I felt that it could have done without, and that was the mango. For me, the mango took a little bit away from the tuna, but the tuna poke itself was a really beautiful dish. Oh, gosh, I’d go back for all of them. It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You’re shaking your head, Ashley. You’ve had that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes, I’ve had that before. They do a great job with all of their “raw bar,” they call it — their oysters, you can get a seafood tower, their ceviche. Mm!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> We also got the crab BLT.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> It had so much crab. And it was served on this thick, soft, beautiful brioche, which I will say didn’t hold up that well because they had so much crab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Just so much crab. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> But it didn’t matter. I ate it with a knife and fork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Not a real complaint.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> That’s a terrible problem to have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> And it had the bacon. And somebody was like, “I would think the bacon would take away from the crab.” No. It was so delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Did anyone have the mussels?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> Mmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> No, did not have the mussels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But I can see that look in your eye like…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Like that they were good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> So good. I mean, and if you like the Thai flavors of coconut and lime, they’re so fresh. They’re just really plump, beautiful, big mussels, but so tender. And it comes with, again, that really nice sourdough crostini and can sop up everything and then use your spoon when the bread runs out ’cause it’s such a good sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> The dish that I was really impressed with was the cioppino. It comes out in a pot. I’ve got to tell you, the amount of seafood in this cioppino was really impressive. Shrimp. Clams. Mussels. Seasonal fish. It’s a saffron-based sauce that’s just really so beautifully seasoned. And the waiter was really generous enough to see that I was done with the bread that came with the actual dish, so he brought additional bread for me because —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s because it’s “sop-up-able.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Yes, yes, that is —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Sop-up-able.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> That’s the technical term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What about desserts? Any room, anyone?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Well, we didn’t, but my granddaughter, she got the ice cream sundae. And of course we took bites and —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> “My granddaughter got it, not me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> Not me. Of course not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> But I had a couple bites, and just everything, they presented it so well and they did a really good job of making you feel special. It was really a nice experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ashley Houts:\u003c/strong> They just go the extra mile there to make you feel so special.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> They did. They absolutely did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So you will be back?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Robert Fernandez:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vicki Traylor:\u003c/strong> As will I.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright. If you would like to try Schooners Monterey, it’s located on Cannery Row in the Monterey Plaza Hotel. 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Plus, Cecilia Tries It heads to Castroville for a tasting tour along the Monterey County Artichoke Trail.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Don’t miss the premiere of four new episodes, \u003c/span>\u003cb>Thursdays at 7:30 PM on KQED 9, starting on July 10.\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hungry for a preview? 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Lastly, reporter Cecilia Phillips wraps up the episode with a tour of \u003cstrong>Hog Island Oyster Farm\u003c/strong>, where she dives into the world of oysters, exploring how these bivalves go from ocean to table.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23281\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23281\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests.png 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Charles Tsang, Laurel Valaris and Luis Ferguson from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://cicerospizza.com/\">\u003cstrong>Cicero’s Pizza\u003c/strong> (San Jose)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://cafe-soleil.com/the-cafe\">\u003cstrong>Cafe Soleil\u003c/strong> (El Sobrante)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://tonysseafoodrestaurant.com/\">\u003cstrong>Tony’s Seafood Restaurant\u003c/strong> (Marshall)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://hogislandoysters.com/hog-hq/farm-tours/\">\u003cstrong>Hog Island Oyster Farm\u003c/strong> (Marshall)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! 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It’s an ideal option for savvy sippers of all sorts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"x_MsoNormal\">\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"http://thacherwinery.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Thacher 2022 Grenache, Homestead Hill Vineyard\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>\u003cspan class=\"contextualExtensionHighlight ms-font-color-themePrimary ms-border-color-themePrimary ident_1291_1337\" role=\"button\">Willow Creek District, Paso Robles, California\u003c/span> $65\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003c/b>One of my favorite red grapes is Grenache. It’s a unique variety responsible for the likes of hearty French Rhône reds and spicy Spanish stunners. In Paso Robles, California, however, it has found its American home. One Grenache that’s a shining star is a small-production version from Thacher Winery. This family-owned spot specializes in handcrafted, terroir-driven wines. Their Homestead Hill Vineyard Grenache is hand-harvested, hand-sorted, gently basket pressed, then aged in concrete tulips, and finally bottled unfiltered and unfined. Exploding with medium-bodied freshness and complexity, it showcases wild strawberry and maraschino cherry succulence, followed by a spicy kick and vibrant yet plush texture. A perfect partner for braised meats or fiery veggie chili.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"x_MsoNormal\">\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"https://montelena.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Chateau Montelena 2021 Cabernet Sauvignon\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>Napa Valley, California $85\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003c/b>When it comes to California classics, look no further than Chateau Montelena. I adore this winery, its story, its wines and its people. The historic winery, begun by Alfred Tubbs in the 1880s, is one of Napa Valley’s most beautiful properties to visit, with gorgeous grounds and a grand chateau. Nearly 100 years after its founding, it became even more famous when their 1973 Chardonnay bested French versions in the benchmark “Judgement of Paris” wine competition of 1976. They are, however, known for their Cabernet Sauvignon bottlings — and for good reason. The 2021 Cabernet is structured and age-worthy, but also ready to drink now with a few hours of decanting and alongside a sumptuous grilled steak. Sporting dark berry fruit notes layered with hints of toasty oak spiciness and a lush finish, this collectible wine is yet another reason to love Montelena.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> An old-school pizzeria in San Jose…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It was just such a heartwarming experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …a cozy brunch spot in El Sobrante…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> This dish defeated me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and fresh seafood by the Bay in Marshall…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It’s definitely ingrained in my soul.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Never seen anything like this before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …just ahead on “Check, Please! Bay Area.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Were you slurping?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We slurped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughs] \u003c/em>\u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to “Check, Please! Bay Area,” the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check ’em out to see what they think. Joining me at the “Check, Please!” table today are product marketing executive Charles Tsang, FDA inspector Luis Ferguson, and Deputy Director with the City of Oakland Laurel Valaris. Welcome, everyone. How are you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Doing great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Great. Thanks for having us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright. Charles is throwing it all the way back to 1968 with his nostalgic pick, a pizzeria that’s been serving up their signature crispy crust pies for more than five decades. Tucked away in West San Jose, it’s Cicero’s Pizza.\u003cem> [music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> When someone new comes into Cicero’s Pizza, I think the first vibe they’re gonna get is this is an old-fashioned pizzeria.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> Rhiannon, your pizza is ready. Rhiannon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> We’re not trying to be fancy, but we excel at what we do. So, Cicero’s Pizza’s recipe originally started in Niagara Falls, New York. There was a fellow named Pee-Wee—it was his mother’s recipe from Sicily. And eventually, when he moved from Niagara Falls to Cupertino, Nunzio Cicero bought one of the pizzerias. So he ran the place from 1968 to 2001. I worked for him going through college, and then carried on the legacy for the last 20 years at this location.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> You guys gonna eat here or take out? Our tagline is “The Pizza with the Secret.” Everyone asks me, “So, Rik, what’s the secret?” And as I tell them, “If I told you, it wouldn’t be a secret.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Scraping sound]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> Unlike any other place in the Bay Area that I know of, Cicero’s Pizza cooks the pizzas in a pan with oil, so it kind of fries the bottom, makes a nice, crispy crust, which you don’t find very often. A lot of people that start pizzerias are able to just get off-the-shelf—cans of tomato sauce. That’s not what we do at all. We make our own spice mixture. It has some sweetness to it, and it’s a very unique and great taste.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> The key is getting the cheese on. My favorite pizza is probably just a plain old cheese pizza. I like cheese. That’s how you can really tell whether a pizza is any good or not. Toppings can vary. The pizza itself—cheese—you’re always gonna know. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> It is a family business, very family-focused. We have photos on the wall of many of our customers. For example, we have Steve Wozniak, whose family has been coming here long before he started Apple Computer. But we have a lot of what we call Cicero’s babies. And they’re either customers who met here or their first date was here—they end up getting married and having children. We have a number of employees who’ve met here and have had children, so we got a lot of little Cicero’s babies out there. We have great history, and I’m glad about that. But the real reason people come here is ’cause they know they’re gonna get a great pizza—every single time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All: \u003c/strong>♪ Happy birthday to you ♪\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Charles, how old were you when you had your first bite of Cicero’s Pizza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> I was 16 years old. My friends and I, we all grew up in Cupertino, so it was like a local spot for us. After my first visit, I was hooked, and I’ve been going ever since.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And do you have a pie that you just love?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> So, I’m a big eater. There’s multiple pies—I usually get a couple for myself, and my wife will share a little bit of it. So I’m a big fan of the Belly Buster pizza. It comes with pepperoni, Italian sausage, salami, a ton of different vegetables, mushrooms, peppers. It usually comes with onions, but I’m not an onion guy, so I forgo that. It’s a delicious pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It was actually one of my favorite pizzas that we had there. And the Italian sausage isn’t chunks of Italian sausage—it’s more like chopped-up Italian sausage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s like a fine crumble.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Well, it was one of the four pies, actually, that we had, so…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> We’ll be here a long time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Yeah. \u003cem>[Chuckles]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We ate a lot, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> So, we went with four people. So we each kind of like got our own thing. We also had the Baker’s Pride, which was like your typical supreme pizza—your vegetables, and I believe it had a different type of sausage than was on the Belly Buster, which was cool because we got to try both of the sausages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, veggies—you had, like, mushrooms, bell pepper, onions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly. Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Blue-cheese salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And it was a really classic pizza place. Like, there’s no appetizers except for two massive salads—one house, one Caesar—and we tried both, which was perfect because they’re like $5…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> …for this big, heaping plate of salad, which justified the pizza for us. And it’s exactly what you would imagine your local pizza place’s salad to look like—like, big hunks of lettuce, one or two vegetables, and those little square croutons from your childhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> But it was really yummy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Nice. My other favorite pizza that I get there is the All Meat Combo. It’s delicious. It’s hearty. It’s got a ton of different meats on it—pepperoni, salami, Italian sausage, ham. But they don’t overdo it with the composition of meat. It’s really, really well-balanced. It’s super, super savory, super delicious. And the thing that really elevates the pizza overall—and this goes for all the pizzas, not just the meat lover’s pizza—is the crispy crust. It is like one of a kind. I’ve never had a thin-crust pizza quite like that before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I was even, like, trying to think of, like, New York-style pizza. I mean, I know it’s like a New York-style pizza spot, but the crust is completely different than any New York-style pizza that I’ve had before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. It’s not foldable, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Unh-unh. No, it’s—and it’s good, too. I actually really enjoyed the crust. I usually leave the crust behind, but this one, I ate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> This one you ate the crust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I ate the crust. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> So, we took a page out of your book. We had five small pizzas. So, we all got to try a little, and we had Hawaiian, which was really good, like unexpectedly a favorite of ours. Really thin ham.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And the owner actually talked to us a little bit about the sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> That’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And they make it all there, and they always have. She told us all of the ingredients except for one, which is a secret. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> And the sauce was really, really good, really tangy, and on top of that cracker crust, it made for a really great pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, we also got the Spicy Vegetarian, which surprisingly enough, I actually liked more of any of the pizza that we had there. The fresh tomatoes that were on there, the jalapeños that were roasted, the onions. It just all complemented themselves. And then my sister-in-law actually got a pepperoni and jalapeño pizza. She custom-made it. And even though she got the medium of that one, but we got the smalls of the other three, we literally almost finished everything. That’s really what made it—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> When they said spicy on that spicy vegetarian, they meant it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s really spicy. I even took off the jalapeños, just to kind of get the essence of it. And it was really spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, be aware.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Be aware.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah? Do you drink anything there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> We got a pitcher of Modelos, which I feel like goes hand in hand with pizza. Yeah, the beer, they got a nice local beer selection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Yeah. It felt like a really nostalgic place. Like, we all have our hometown pizza place, and this felt like the kind of place that if you were from that area of San Jose, you would, like, go off to college and come back and have to have Cicero’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It’d be on your list, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Totally. So, it felt like it was a special place for a lot of families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> You’ve described me, like, right there. Like, to this day, every birthday, my wife will be like, “What do you want for your birthday?” I’m like, “Can we just go to Cicero’s?” That’s all I want.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> That was the vibe, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> That’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It is. And the service was exceptional. I mean, it was fast service, but even above that, the owners were so happy to see me and my young family there. I actually brought my five-day-old to the restaurant along with my two toddlers. And some folks may, like, shy away from that much kid activity in a busy spot. But the owner actually was so pumped that my baby—it was their first restaurant experience at Cicero’s—that she brought out a little red onesie that said Cicero’s Pizza and two T-shirts for my two little boys. And it was just overall such a heartwarming experience for us that I wouldn’t normally drive down to San Jose just for pizza, but I totally would, just based on that experience alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, well, if you would like to try Cicero’s Pizza, it’s located on Bollinger Road in San Jose, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $20.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> As a mom to three little ones, Laurel is a huge fan of classic diners where the menu, service, and vibe is all-around family friendly. Luckily, her neighborhood hangout checks all those boxes. Located in El Sobrante, it’s Cafe Soleil. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Server:\u003c/strong> Chicken fried steak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Cafe Soleil means to me sun, light, love, community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> A lot of people that walk in the door are kind of amazed, because it looks like a little hidden place. And they come in, and it’s such a nice big open spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> There’s just something about starting someone’s day with a good breakfast. Cafe Soleil has been here since 1997. At 18, I had the opportunity to open my own small café. I was the cook, the waitress, the dishwasher, the prepper, the busser, and Todd was one of my customers. He used to order French toast, bacon, and over-medium eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I was always going around and trying to find the best breakfasts everywhere I could go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> And he was like, “I’ve always wanted a little café.” And I’m like, “Great, I’m going to teach you to cook.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> We serve steaks, burgers and fries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> Salads, homemade soups, and we even have a vegan menu. I love the vegan avocado toast—fresh-shaved radish, arugula, fresh jalapeños, fresh cherry tomatoes. It’s just garden fresh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> Our portion sizes are actually very large. Our customers, when they leave here are very satisfied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I hope they just feel full and happy and content and energized, but not so much where they’re like, “I need to go sleep.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Server:\u003c/strong> Alright, you guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I would say 99% of every employee that we hired in 1998 still works for us, to this day. We all grew up together, and we all built this business. They are so intertwined with these customers. It’s amazing. It’s family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Laurel, obviously you need a family-friendly spot, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And this one is your favorite.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It is my favorite. Not only is it super kid-friendly, but also the food is really, really good. I feel like it’s hard to find a neighborhood diner where everything is consistent, and for me, Cafe Soleil is that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, what do you get when you go in?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> One of the things I really like to share with my family is the Workers Special. It’s biscuits and gravy with a little bit of spice to it. It has kind of a smoky taste, and then you can get a meat side or egg side, anything of your choosing—over-easy, sausage, bacon. And so, that’s something that we all usually share. And then this time around, my husband got the Chicken Fried Steak. And it was a very thin-sliced piece of steak, really crispy. And the eggs over-easy serving as, like, an additional sauce was a real win. So, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I actually got the same thing, and I didn’t even have to cut it with a knife, actually.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, really? Cut it with a fork?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Cut it with my fork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, that’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah. Super juicy, super tender. It wasn’t dry at all. Sometimes you go to places with chicken fried steak, and it might be a little dry. Definitely not the case here. My wife, she was blown away by this restaurant. She actually literally said it was the best breakfast place that she’s been to in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> And she is kind of like a breakfast potato connoisseur. And she loved the home fries. They had this nice, thin, crispy layer, perfectly seasoned. She loved it. The Workers Special, like you said, was great. And I know I mentioned earlier, I’m a big eater. No, this dish defeated me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> I was defeated after this dish. But it was great, and the biscuits were very, very fluffy. It was amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We also got a side with the pancakes. Sweet Cream Pancakes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, Sweet Cream Pancakes. Yeah, they were super good, actually. That was, like, one of the highlights for my breakfast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Didn’t it taste just like the sweet cream you would put in your coffee?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly. And, like, even with syrup over the pancakes, the Sweet Cream Pancake itself shined through no matter how much syrup you drenched on it or dipped onto it, which was really nice, was refreshing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Were they big pancakes?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> They were plate-sized. We only actually got one because of everything that we got. I mean, I wish I would have gotten more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, this is also a lunch spot, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> So, my standard order is usually the Cobb Salad. I wouldn’t normally send someone to a restaurant specifically for a salad, but this is, like, a big, epic meal salad. But then it has really hearty elements like chicken. It has bacon, it has boiled egg, it has a really beautiful house-made blue cheese, and together it makes for at least two meals for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We also had the Green Chili & Jack Burger, which is a really beautiful charbroiled burger, and it has this thick piece of Jack cheese on it with grilled Ortega chili. And that Ortega chili really adds some heat to the dish, and it makes it super yummy. You can get all kinds of sides there, too. We like the sweet potato fries. We like the regular fries. They have potato salad. But I really like that, like a diner, there’s a lot of options.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> We did get a burger. We got the Mike’s Burger. It’s got the pepper Jack cheese and the jalapeños on it. Juicy burger, bun was great. The ratio of just, like, burger to vegetables to everything kind of played off of each other. And then you obviously got a side with it. We went with the chili. Probably would have opted for something different than the chili, maybe a salad. But overall, like, the burger was actually really, really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It was good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what did you get to drink?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We had mimosas, and they were really yummy. They were the exact color that I like them. 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If you would like to try Cafe Soleil, it’s located on San Pablo Dam Road in El Sobrante, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $25.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s a bit of a journey for Luis to get to his favorite seafood spot, but he says that’s all part of the fun. And once he’s there, it’s no holds barred as he slurps down fresh oysters by the dozens. Luckily, there’s always plenty more where those come from, in the Tomales Bay town of Marshall, which is home to Tony’s Seafood Restaurant. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> Tony’s Seafood is a restaurant started in 1948. It was started by a Croatian fishing family. We first started at Hog Island in 1983, and they were one of our first customers for oysters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Alright.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> We all started talking a few years ago that if they ever decided to get out of the business, to let us know, and they did. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> I mean, Tony’s was always just this classic West Coast seafood house, you know, where the views were incredible, the beer was cold, you got fresh, local seafood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Oh, man. Check those out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #2:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> There are not many places like this anywhere. We feel just so honored to be able to carry on the tradition. We feature a lot of local halibut, a lot of local rockfish, a lot of crab out of Bodega.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> I think that one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> Of course, we have oysters and clams on the menu. But it’s really about those classics, like the fish and chips, clams and pasta. The sort of comfort seafood definitely is a big part of it. So, Marshall is a really unique place. This might feel super far away, but it’s really not that far. It’s an easy drive out here. I mean, we have incredible sunsets out the windows here, and I think it’s a really special place because of that. I mean, I love this. I love growing food in the bay. I’ve got saltwater in my veins. This has always been something that’s near and dear to me. And then to see people enjoy the food that you’ve grown is just a tremendous opportunity and tremendous honor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Luis, there are so many seafood spots in the Bay Area. How did this become your favorite?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> To be honest, I don’t even know where I found out about this spot, but we’ve been going there for, I want to say, five years now, at least. Of course, it’s kind of a journey. It’s kind of a trek, but once you finally get there, you’re just relaxed. It’s just a part of the vibe, getting the beer, getting the fresh oysters, being on the coast, like, the sun in your face.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s just the atmosphere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The vibe. Now, is it true that you eat dozens—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Dozens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …of oysters? Dozens?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Dozens. We literally will. We know—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Is that like 24 or 36?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we get the beer and the champagne, it’s like, bring us a dozen. When they bring this dozen, they come and check on the beer and champagne. We’re ordering another dozen, you know what I mean? They just keep coming and coming. It’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. And is there a particular type of oyster you like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> So, the smaller, the better, in my opinion. But the Kumamotos are honestly our favorite. They’re from Humboldt. They’re local. The brininess, the saltiness. You add a little bit of lemon on top with Crystal’s or Tabasco, whatever hot sauce is to your liking. They’re just really are amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Just take your time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Just take your time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Take your time slurping. So, were you slurping when you went there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We slurped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay. Alright.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Definitely. We got a dozen just for ourselves. They’re fresh, tasty, delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> And I like the Sweetwater one in particular.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And I totally agree, when it comes to oysters, the smaller, the better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And the batch of dozen that we got, we just got tiny, beautiful, flavorful oysters. We ordered the 12 that they basically chose for us, and it did not disappoint.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> But we started with the Route One bread starter, which is half of a loaf of bread covered in black sesame seeds, and it almost had a bagel-like quality, and I wouldn’t have expected to enjoy bread that much. I really came for the oysters, but it was really good, and it came with this big honking piece of butter that was gone instantly. We had to ask for more, but it was sweet, and it was a really great addition to the rest of the meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you get anything else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We got a lot. We got a lot. We ordered the grilled oysters. My wife and I loved. We got two of the garlic butter one and two of the miso butter one, and they were delicious, super savory. It was just novel, like a little bit of a Japanese twist to it. I got the Fish Tacos for myself. Very, very fresh and tasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> They do have a seasonal rotating menu. Which tacos did you get?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> It came with rockfish, a little bit of cabbage, chipotle aioli. My wife got the mussels, and the thing that she was pleasantly surprised by is it had a little bit of chorizo in the mussels, which she liked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> And then a pro tip that I definitely personally recommend, especially for the mussels and the fries, you got to use the mussel as a spoon to get the broth and then slurp it up. It just makes it a part of the experience. It’s really what makes it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, pro tip. We got it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you get something else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We did. We ordered several other things, but the standout for me was the Fish & Chips. It was a really light fry, and they had this beautiful white rockfish, super flaky. My husband is an expert fisherman, worked on a boat for many years. And so, I’m always kind of nervous when we eat the fish. Is it up to par? And he loved it, I loved it. A beautiful house-made tartar sauce. I would totally order that again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We also ordered the clam chowder. We loved it. The clams still have the shell on, so they were really, really fresh, and the aromatic vegetables that were added in there, great composition. There was a little bit of potato, celery, carrot, and even a little bit of bacon. The one thing to keep in mind is I’m not quite as used to having clam chowder that’s not, like, New England style and chunky. The one they have here at Tony’s is a little bit more soupy and liquidy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We had an It’s-It. It’s their only dessert item, which for a Bay Area restaurant, I respect that, the Bay Area treat, and that was really nice to have at the end of a big meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Yeah, when we went, they actually also had a second dessert option, which was a pie, but unfortunately, they ran out, and I was like, “Oh, my God, I really, really want to try that.” So, the next time we stop by, hopefully they’ll still have it on the menu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Value-wise, is it worth it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It was worth it for me. But I would say next time, I would definitely consolidate my pennies on just the oysters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> There you go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> The oysters themselves were so outstanding. I would do what Luis did and maybe order five dozen of them, as opposed to just the one, and spreading it out over the menu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I can honestly recall, like, in the first times that we had gone there, we had went there literally for two months straight every weekend, just because of the oysters. We tried everything we possibly can. The specials are always changing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It sounds like it’s part of your life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I mean, it’s definitely ingrained in my soul now, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> I would make a day of it. It was a great drive. It was a great experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try Tony’s Seafood Restaurant, it’s located on Shoreline Highway in Marshall, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $75.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And now, reporter Cecilia Phillips hits the Marin County coast for a little oyster shucking 101. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> So, we’re here up north in this beautiful bay with the water behind us and a ton of oysters around. What are some of the things that you love to educate people on about oysters?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Tomales Bay is a fascinating place, both historically and environmentally. It’s one of the only bays left in California that is clean enough to grow food-grade oysters. We actually harvest about 3, 3.5 million oysters a year. So, the whole Hog Farm experience is a special tour that we created to give the super fan a little extra look. We look at both the natural history and the aquaculture processes. This tank is called a nursery tank, and this is where we keep baby oysters. Check them out. About two millimeters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Right? And so, it takes us about a year and a half to get that lovely raw bar-sized oyster. So, this is our stock in trade. This is a Hog Island sweetwater. It’s a Japanese or Miyagi variety. This is its close cousin, the Kumamoto, also from Japan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Well, this one is just so interesting to me because I’ve never seen this before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> This is the European flat oyster. This is what the Romans were eating. It’s one of the rarest oysters you’ll see in North America. And then these are the wild natives of the West Coast. Even though they’re different species from different parts of the world, we grow all these right here in Tomales Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Okay, so, let’s taste some oysters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Let’s go shuck some oysters and see what you’re made of.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I’m ready. I’m ready to show you. Let’s go. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Cecilia, I’ve got a dozen oysters here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Are you ready?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Alright, my goal is to start here with the hinge and begin here. Okay, so here we go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Did you go to med school?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[laughs]\u003c/em> Oh, I got some shell. Aw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Here’s a little pro tip, Cecilia. I like to think of it as the Tomales Bay three-step. Right? So, when you put the knife in the hinge and apply pressure, just use a side-to-side motion. And that’ll keep you from breaking up the shell. I like to let the knife do the work for me. Do you notice you broke a sweat?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I was struggling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> You were struggling. So, if I just twist the knife, that action of the blade standing up will lift that shell. Now I’m going to slide the knife under the top shell. This is the second step. And free that top shell from the adductor muscle. 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Did you have as much fun with me today as I had with you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> I had more fun, Cecilia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Aw, shucks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Oh, my…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> [laughs]\u003c/em> I did it. I had to do it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> You got to do it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I have to thank my great guests on this week’s show — Charles Tsang, who busts his belly with the crispy pies at Cicero’s Pizza in San Jose; Luis Ferguson, who zips up to Marin every chance he gets to Tony’s Seafood Restaurant in Marshall; and Laurel Valaris, who’s crazy for the Cobb Salad at Cafe Soleil in El Sobrante. So, join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers, everyone. Cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Cheers. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[high-pitched voice]\u003c/em> We’re here at Hog Island… \u003cem>[laughs]\u003c/em> Is there a best way to eat oysters?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Raw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah. Raw with a lot of Hogwash is the best.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> Raw with horseradish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #3:\u003c/strong> I like them grilled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #4:\u003c/strong> I’ve tried it in an oyster pot pie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #5:\u003c/strong> I’m going to say raw, but a close second is the barbecue here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #7:\u003c/strong> You know what? 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 19, episode 11, airs Thursday, November 21, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">First, our journey begins in San Jose at \u003cstrong>Cicero’s Pizza\u003c/strong>, a beloved local institution since 1968, offering thin-crust, crispy-edged pies loaded with fresh toppings. Next, guests visit \u003cstrong>Cafe Soleil\u003c/strong> in El Sobrante, a charming spot for comforting breakfast and lunch classics, from chicken fried steak to sweet cream pancakes. Then, it’s off to the Marshall’s scenic coast and \u003cstrong>Tony’s Seafood Restaurant\u003c/strong>, where diners enjoy fresh, sustainably sourced seafood with breathtaking views of Tomales Bay. Lastly, reporter Cecilia Phillips wraps up the episode with a tour of \u003cstrong>Hog Island Oyster Farm\u003c/strong>, where she dives into the world of oysters, exploring how these bivalves go from ocean to table.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23281\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23281\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests.png 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Charles Tsang, Laurel Valaris and Luis Ferguson from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://cicerospizza.com/\">\u003cstrong>Cicero’s Pizza\u003c/strong> (San Jose)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://cafe-soleil.com/the-cafe\">\u003cstrong>Cafe Soleil\u003c/strong> (El Sobrante)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://tonysseafoodrestaurant.com/\">\u003cstrong>Tony’s Seafood Restaurant\u003c/strong> (Marshall)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://hogislandoysters.com/hog-hq/farm-tours/\">\u003cstrong>Hog Island Oyster Farm\u003c/strong> (Marshall)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23327\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-800x974.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"974\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-800x974.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1020x1242.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-160x195.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-768x935.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1261x1536.jpg 1261w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1682x2048.jpg 1682w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1920x2338.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"x_MsoNormal\">\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"https://us.bolledrinks.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Bolle Rosé, Twice Fermented Non-Alcoholic Sparkling Wine\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>$30\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>With the surge of interest in nonalcoholic beverages, nonalcoholic beer leads the way with plenty that taste similar to their alcoholic counterparts. That’s followed closely by faux spirits used to make virgin versions of cocktails. I find nonalcoholic wine, however, lags behind both these categories in terms of options that taste like wine with alcohol. That is, until I sampled the new sparklers from Bolle. A Europe-based company founded by Italian Roberto Vanin, this pink fizz looks stylishly elegant and tastes delicious — making you want another glass, or three. Enticingly delicate red berry fruit aromas lead the way with this crisp, flavorful bubbly (clocking in at a mere 15 calories per serving). It’s an ideal option for savvy sippers of all sorts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"x_MsoNormal\">\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"http://thacherwinery.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Thacher 2022 Grenache, Homestead Hill Vineyard\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>\u003cspan class=\"contextualExtensionHighlight ms-font-color-themePrimary ms-border-color-themePrimary ident_1291_1337\" role=\"button\">Willow Creek District, Paso Robles, California\u003c/span> $65\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003c/b>One of my favorite red grapes is Grenache. It’s a unique variety responsible for the likes of hearty French Rhône reds and spicy Spanish stunners. In Paso Robles, California, however, it has found its American home. One Grenache that’s a shining star is a small-production version from Thacher Winery. This family-owned spot specializes in handcrafted, terroir-driven wines. Their Homestead Hill Vineyard Grenache is hand-harvested, hand-sorted, gently basket pressed, then aged in concrete tulips, and finally bottled unfiltered and unfined. Exploding with medium-bodied freshness and complexity, it showcases wild strawberry and maraschino cherry succulence, followed by a spicy kick and vibrant yet plush texture. A perfect partner for braised meats or fiery veggie chili.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"x_MsoNormal\">\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"https://montelena.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Chateau Montelena 2021 Cabernet Sauvignon\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>Napa Valley, California $85\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003c/b>When it comes to California classics, look no further than Chateau Montelena. I adore this winery, its story, its wines and its people. The historic winery, begun by Alfred Tubbs in the 1880s, is one of Napa Valley’s most beautiful properties to visit, with gorgeous grounds and a grand chateau. Nearly 100 years after its founding, it became even more famous when their 1973 Chardonnay bested French versions in the benchmark “Judgement of Paris” wine competition of 1976. They are, however, known for their Cabernet Sauvignon bottlings — and for good reason. The 2021 Cabernet is structured and age-worthy, but also ready to drink now with a few hours of decanting and alongside a sumptuous grilled steak. Sporting dark berry fruit notes layered with hints of toasty oak spiciness and a lush finish, this collectible wine is yet another reason to love Montelena.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> An old-school pizzeria in San Jose…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It was just such a heartwarming experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …a cozy brunch spot in El Sobrante…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> This dish defeated me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and fresh seafood by the Bay in Marshall…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It’s definitely ingrained in my soul.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Never seen anything like this before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …just ahead on “Check, Please! Bay Area.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Were you slurping?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We slurped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughs] \u003c/em>\u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to “Check, Please! Bay Area,” the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check ’em out to see what they think. Joining me at the “Check, Please!” table today are product marketing executive Charles Tsang, FDA inspector Luis Ferguson, and Deputy Director with the City of Oakland Laurel Valaris. Welcome, everyone. How are you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Doing great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Great. Thanks for having us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright. Charles is throwing it all the way back to 1968 with his nostalgic pick, a pizzeria that’s been serving up their signature crispy crust pies for more than five decades. Tucked away in West San Jose, it’s Cicero’s Pizza.\u003cem> [music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> When someone new comes into Cicero’s Pizza, I think the first vibe they’re gonna get is this is an old-fashioned pizzeria.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> Rhiannon, your pizza is ready. Rhiannon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> We’re not trying to be fancy, but we excel at what we do. So, Cicero’s Pizza’s recipe originally started in Niagara Falls, New York. There was a fellow named Pee-Wee—it was his mother’s recipe from Sicily. And eventually, when he moved from Niagara Falls to Cupertino, Nunzio Cicero bought one of the pizzerias. So he ran the place from 1968 to 2001. I worked for him going through college, and then carried on the legacy for the last 20 years at this location.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> You guys gonna eat here or take out? Our tagline is “The Pizza with the Secret.” Everyone asks me, “So, Rik, what’s the secret?” And as I tell them, “If I told you, it wouldn’t be a secret.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Scraping sound]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> Unlike any other place in the Bay Area that I know of, Cicero’s Pizza cooks the pizzas in a pan with oil, so it kind of fries the bottom, makes a nice, crispy crust, which you don’t find very often. A lot of people that start pizzerias are able to just get off-the-shelf—cans of tomato sauce. That’s not what we do at all. We make our own spice mixture. It has some sweetness to it, and it’s a very unique and great taste.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> The key is getting the cheese on. My favorite pizza is probably just a plain old cheese pizza. I like cheese. That’s how you can really tell whether a pizza is any good or not. Toppings can vary. The pizza itself—cheese—you’re always gonna know. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> It is a family business, very family-focused. We have photos on the wall of many of our customers. For example, we have Steve Wozniak, whose family has been coming here long before he started Apple Computer. But we have a lot of what we call Cicero’s babies. And they’re either customers who met here or their first date was here—they end up getting married and having children. We have a number of employees who’ve met here and have had children, so we got a lot of little Cicero’s babies out there. We have great history, and I’m glad about that. But the real reason people come here is ’cause they know they’re gonna get a great pizza—every single time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All: \u003c/strong>♪ Happy birthday to you ♪\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Charles, how old were you when you had your first bite of Cicero’s Pizza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> I was 16 years old. My friends and I, we all grew up in Cupertino, so it was like a local spot for us. After my first visit, I was hooked, and I’ve been going ever since.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And do you have a pie that you just love?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> So, I’m a big eater. There’s multiple pies—I usually get a couple for myself, and my wife will share a little bit of it. So I’m a big fan of the Belly Buster pizza. It comes with pepperoni, Italian sausage, salami, a ton of different vegetables, mushrooms, peppers. It usually comes with onions, but I’m not an onion guy, so I forgo that. It’s a delicious pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It was actually one of my favorite pizzas that we had there. And the Italian sausage isn’t chunks of Italian sausage—it’s more like chopped-up Italian sausage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s like a fine crumble.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Well, it was one of the four pies, actually, that we had, so…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> We’ll be here a long time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Yeah. \u003cem>[Chuckles]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We ate a lot, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> So, we went with four people. So we each kind of like got our own thing. We also had the Baker’s Pride, which was like your typical supreme pizza—your vegetables, and I believe it had a different type of sausage than was on the Belly Buster, which was cool because we got to try both of the sausages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, veggies—you had, like, mushrooms, bell pepper, onions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly. Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Blue-cheese salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And it was a really classic pizza place. Like, there’s no appetizers except for two massive salads—one house, one Caesar—and we tried both, which was perfect because they’re like $5…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> …for this big, heaping plate of salad, which justified the pizza for us. And it’s exactly what you would imagine your local pizza place’s salad to look like—like, big hunks of lettuce, one or two vegetables, and those little square croutons from your childhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> But it was really yummy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Nice. My other favorite pizza that I get there is the All Meat Combo. It’s delicious. It’s hearty. It’s got a ton of different meats on it—pepperoni, salami, Italian sausage, ham. But they don’t overdo it with the composition of meat. It’s really, really well-balanced. It’s super, super savory, super delicious. And the thing that really elevates the pizza overall—and this goes for all the pizzas, not just the meat lover’s pizza—is the crispy crust. It is like one of a kind. I’ve never had a thin-crust pizza quite like that before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I was even, like, trying to think of, like, New York-style pizza. I mean, I know it’s like a New York-style pizza spot, but the crust is completely different than any New York-style pizza that I’ve had before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. It’s not foldable, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Unh-unh. No, it’s—and it’s good, too. I actually really enjoyed the crust. I usually leave the crust behind, but this one, I ate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> This one you ate the crust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I ate the crust. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> So, we took a page out of your book. We had five small pizzas. So, we all got to try a little, and we had Hawaiian, which was really good, like unexpectedly a favorite of ours. Really thin ham.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And the owner actually talked to us a little bit about the sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> That’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And they make it all there, and they always have. She told us all of the ingredients except for one, which is a secret. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> And the sauce was really, really good, really tangy, and on top of that cracker crust, it made for a really great pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, we also got the Spicy Vegetarian, which surprisingly enough, I actually liked more of any of the pizza that we had there. The fresh tomatoes that were on there, the jalapeños that were roasted, the onions. It just all complemented themselves. And then my sister-in-law actually got a pepperoni and jalapeño pizza. She custom-made it. And even though she got the medium of that one, but we got the smalls of the other three, we literally almost finished everything. That’s really what made it—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> When they said spicy on that spicy vegetarian, they meant it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s really spicy. I even took off the jalapeños, just to kind of get the essence of it. And it was really spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, be aware.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Be aware.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah? Do you drink anything there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> We got a pitcher of Modelos, which I feel like goes hand in hand with pizza. Yeah, the beer, they got a nice local beer selection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Yeah. It felt like a really nostalgic place. Like, we all have our hometown pizza place, and this felt like the kind of place that if you were from that area of San Jose, you would, like, go off to college and come back and have to have Cicero’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It’d be on your list, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Totally. So, it felt like it was a special place for a lot of families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> You’ve described me, like, right there. Like, to this day, every birthday, my wife will be like, “What do you want for your birthday?” I’m like, “Can we just go to Cicero’s?” That’s all I want.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> That was the vibe, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> That’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It is. And the service was exceptional. I mean, it was fast service, but even above that, the owners were so happy to see me and my young family there. I actually brought my five-day-old to the restaurant along with my two toddlers. And some folks may, like, shy away from that much kid activity in a busy spot. But the owner actually was so pumped that my baby—it was their first restaurant experience at Cicero’s—that she brought out a little red onesie that said Cicero’s Pizza and two T-shirts for my two little boys. And it was just overall such a heartwarming experience for us that I wouldn’t normally drive down to San Jose just for pizza, but I totally would, just based on that experience alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, well, if you would like to try Cicero’s Pizza, it’s located on Bollinger Road in San Jose, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $20.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> As a mom to three little ones, Laurel is a huge fan of classic diners where the menu, service, and vibe is all-around family friendly. Luckily, her neighborhood hangout checks all those boxes. Located in El Sobrante, it’s Cafe Soleil. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Server:\u003c/strong> Chicken fried steak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Cafe Soleil means to me sun, light, love, community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> A lot of people that walk in the door are kind of amazed, because it looks like a little hidden place. And they come in, and it’s such a nice big open spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> There’s just something about starting someone’s day with a good breakfast. Cafe Soleil has been here since 1997. At 18, I had the opportunity to open my own small café. I was the cook, the waitress, the dishwasher, the prepper, the busser, and Todd was one of my customers. He used to order French toast, bacon, and over-medium eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I was always going around and trying to find the best breakfasts everywhere I could go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> And he was like, “I’ve always wanted a little café.” And I’m like, “Great, I’m going to teach you to cook.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> We serve steaks, burgers and fries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> Salads, homemade soups, and we even have a vegan menu. I love the vegan avocado toast—fresh-shaved radish, arugula, fresh jalapeños, fresh cherry tomatoes. It’s just garden fresh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> Our portion sizes are actually very large. Our customers, when they leave here are very satisfied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I hope they just feel full and happy and content and energized, but not so much where they’re like, “I need to go sleep.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Server:\u003c/strong> Alright, you guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I would say 99% of every employee that we hired in 1998 still works for us, to this day. We all grew up together, and we all built this business. They are so intertwined with these customers. It’s amazing. It’s family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Laurel, obviously you need a family-friendly spot, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And this one is your favorite.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It is my favorite. Not only is it super kid-friendly, but also the food is really, really good. I feel like it’s hard to find a neighborhood diner where everything is consistent, and for me, Cafe Soleil is that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, what do you get when you go in?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> One of the things I really like to share with my family is the Workers Special. It’s biscuits and gravy with a little bit of spice to it. It has kind of a smoky taste, and then you can get a meat side or egg side, anything of your choosing—over-easy, sausage, bacon. And so, that’s something that we all usually share. And then this time around, my husband got the Chicken Fried Steak. And it was a very thin-sliced piece of steak, really crispy. And the eggs over-easy serving as, like, an additional sauce was a real win. So, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I actually got the same thing, and I didn’t even have to cut it with a knife, actually.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, really? Cut it with a fork?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Cut it with my fork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, that’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah. Super juicy, super tender. It wasn’t dry at all. Sometimes you go to places with chicken fried steak, and it might be a little dry. Definitely not the case here. My wife, she was blown away by this restaurant. She actually literally said it was the best breakfast place that she’s been to in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> And she is kind of like a breakfast potato connoisseur. And she loved the home fries. They had this nice, thin, crispy layer, perfectly seasoned. She loved it. The Workers Special, like you said, was great. And I know I mentioned earlier, I’m a big eater. No, this dish defeated me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> I was defeated after this dish. But it was great, and the biscuits were very, very fluffy. It was amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We also got a side with the pancakes. Sweet Cream Pancakes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, Sweet Cream Pancakes. Yeah, they were super good, actually. That was, like, one of the highlights for my breakfast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Didn’t it taste just like the sweet cream you would put in your coffee?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly. And, like, even with syrup over the pancakes, the Sweet Cream Pancake itself shined through no matter how much syrup you drenched on it or dipped onto it, which was really nice, was refreshing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Were they big pancakes?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> They were plate-sized. We only actually got one because of everything that we got. I mean, I wish I would have gotten more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, this is also a lunch spot, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> So, my standard order is usually the Cobb Salad. I wouldn’t normally send someone to a restaurant specifically for a salad, but this is, like, a big, epic meal salad. But then it has really hearty elements like chicken. It has bacon, it has boiled egg, it has a really beautiful house-made blue cheese, and together it makes for at least two meals for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We also had the Green Chili & Jack Burger, which is a really beautiful charbroiled burger, and it has this thick piece of Jack cheese on it with grilled Ortega chili. And that Ortega chili really adds some heat to the dish, and it makes it super yummy. You can get all kinds of sides there, too. We like the sweet potato fries. We like the regular fries. They have potato salad. But I really like that, like a diner, there’s a lot of options.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> We did get a burger. We got the Mike’s Burger. It’s got the pepper Jack cheese and the jalapeños on it. Juicy burger, bun was great. The ratio of just, like, burger to vegetables to everything kind of played off of each other. And then you obviously got a side with it. We went with the chili. Probably would have opted for something different than the chili, maybe a salad. But overall, like, the burger was actually really, really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It was good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what did you get to drink?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We had mimosas, and they were really yummy. They were the exact color that I like them. Barely orange.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Almost an eyedropper of orange juice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Mostly champagne, but they have a wide variety of different drinks there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And in terms of value, you said the size is —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> 100% great value. The price to portion, and quantity and quality of food ratio is outstanding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I would go back, especially for the pancakes. For the pancakes and the burger, I would stop by again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. If you would like to try Cafe Soleil, it’s located on San Pablo Dam Road in El Sobrante, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $25.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s a bit of a journey for Luis to get to his favorite seafood spot, but he says that’s all part of the fun. And once he’s there, it’s no holds barred as he slurps down fresh oysters by the dozens. Luckily, there’s always plenty more where those come from, in the Tomales Bay town of Marshall, which is home to Tony’s Seafood Restaurant. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> Tony’s Seafood is a restaurant started in 1948. It was started by a Croatian fishing family. We first started at Hog Island in 1983, and they were one of our first customers for oysters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Alright.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> We all started talking a few years ago that if they ever decided to get out of the business, to let us know, and they did. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> I mean, Tony’s was always just this classic West Coast seafood house, you know, where the views were incredible, the beer was cold, you got fresh, local seafood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Oh, man. Check those out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #2:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> There are not many places like this anywhere. We feel just so honored to be able to carry on the tradition. We feature a lot of local halibut, a lot of local rockfish, a lot of crab out of Bodega.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> I think that one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> Of course, we have oysters and clams on the menu. But it’s really about those classics, like the fish and chips, clams and pasta. The sort of comfort seafood definitely is a big part of it. So, Marshall is a really unique place. This might feel super far away, but it’s really not that far. It’s an easy drive out here. I mean, we have incredible sunsets out the windows here, and I think it’s a really special place because of that. I mean, I love this. I love growing food in the bay. I’ve got saltwater in my veins. This has always been something that’s near and dear to me. And then to see people enjoy the food that you’ve grown is just a tremendous opportunity and tremendous honor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Luis, there are so many seafood spots in the Bay Area. How did this become your favorite?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> To be honest, I don’t even know where I found out about this spot, but we’ve been going there for, I want to say, five years now, at least. Of course, it’s kind of a journey. It’s kind of a trek, but once you finally get there, you’re just relaxed. It’s just a part of the vibe, getting the beer, getting the fresh oysters, being on the coast, like, the sun in your face.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s just the atmosphere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The vibe. Now, is it true that you eat dozens—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Dozens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …of oysters? Dozens?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Dozens. We literally will. We know—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Is that like 24 or 36?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we get the beer and the champagne, it’s like, bring us a dozen. When they bring this dozen, they come and check on the beer and champagne. We’re ordering another dozen, you know what I mean? They just keep coming and coming. It’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. And is there a particular type of oyster you like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> So, the smaller, the better, in my opinion. But the Kumamotos are honestly our favorite. They’re from Humboldt. They’re local. The brininess, the saltiness. You add a little bit of lemon on top with Crystal’s or Tabasco, whatever hot sauce is to your liking. They’re just really are amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Just take your time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Just take your time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Take your time slurping. So, were you slurping when you went there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We slurped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay. Alright.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Definitely. We got a dozen just for ourselves. They’re fresh, tasty, delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> And I like the Sweetwater one in particular.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And I totally agree, when it comes to oysters, the smaller, the better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And the batch of dozen that we got, we just got tiny, beautiful, flavorful oysters. We ordered the 12 that they basically chose for us, and it did not disappoint.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> But we started with the Route One bread starter, which is half of a loaf of bread covered in black sesame seeds, and it almost had a bagel-like quality, and I wouldn’t have expected to enjoy bread that much. I really came for the oysters, but it was really good, and it came with this big honking piece of butter that was gone instantly. We had to ask for more, but it was sweet, and it was a really great addition to the rest of the meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you get anything else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We got a lot. We got a lot. We ordered the grilled oysters. My wife and I loved. We got two of the garlic butter one and two of the miso butter one, and they were delicious, super savory. It was just novel, like a little bit of a Japanese twist to it. I got the Fish Tacos for myself. Very, very fresh and tasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> They do have a seasonal rotating menu. Which tacos did you get?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> It came with rockfish, a little bit of cabbage, chipotle aioli. My wife got the mussels, and the thing that she was pleasantly surprised by is it had a little bit of chorizo in the mussels, which she liked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> And then a pro tip that I definitely personally recommend, especially for the mussels and the fries, you got to use the mussel as a spoon to get the broth and then slurp it up. It just makes it a part of the experience. It’s really what makes it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, pro tip. We got it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you get something else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We did. We ordered several other things, but the standout for me was the Fish & Chips. It was a really light fry, and they had this beautiful white rockfish, super flaky. My husband is an expert fisherman, worked on a boat for many years. And so, I’m always kind of nervous when we eat the fish. Is it up to par? And he loved it, I loved it. A beautiful house-made tartar sauce. I would totally order that again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We also ordered the clam chowder. We loved it. The clams still have the shell on, so they were really, really fresh, and the aromatic vegetables that were added in there, great composition. There was a little bit of potato, celery, carrot, and even a little bit of bacon. The one thing to keep in mind is I’m not quite as used to having clam chowder that’s not, like, New England style and chunky. The one they have here at Tony’s is a little bit more soupy and liquidy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We had an It’s-It. It’s their only dessert item, which for a Bay Area restaurant, I respect that, the Bay Area treat, and that was really nice to have at the end of a big meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Yeah, when we went, they actually also had a second dessert option, which was a pie, but unfortunately, they ran out, and I was like, “Oh, my God, I really, really want to try that.” So, the next time we stop by, hopefully they’ll still have it on the menu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Value-wise, is it worth it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It was worth it for me. But I would say next time, I would definitely consolidate my pennies on just the oysters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> There you go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> The oysters themselves were so outstanding. I would do what Luis did and maybe order five dozen of them, as opposed to just the one, and spreading it out over the menu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I can honestly recall, like, in the first times that we had gone there, we had went there literally for two months straight every weekend, just because of the oysters. We tried everything we possibly can. The specials are always changing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It sounds like it’s part of your life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I mean, it’s definitely ingrained in my soul now, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> I would make a day of it. It was a great drive. It was a great experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try Tony’s Seafood Restaurant, it’s located on Shoreline Highway in Marshall, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $75.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And now, reporter Cecilia Phillips hits the Marin County coast for a little oyster shucking 101. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> So, we’re here up north in this beautiful bay with the water behind us and a ton of oysters around. What are some of the things that you love to educate people on about oysters?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Tomales Bay is a fascinating place, both historically and environmentally. It’s one of the only bays left in California that is clean enough to grow food-grade oysters. We actually harvest about 3, 3.5 million oysters a year. So, the whole Hog Farm experience is a special tour that we created to give the super fan a little extra look. We look at both the natural history and the aquaculture processes. This tank is called a nursery tank, and this is where we keep baby oysters. Check them out. About two millimeters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Right? And so, it takes us about a year and a half to get that lovely raw bar-sized oyster. So, this is our stock in trade. This is a Hog Island sweetwater. It’s a Japanese or Miyagi variety. This is its close cousin, the Kumamoto, also from Japan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Well, this one is just so interesting to me because I’ve never seen this before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> This is the European flat oyster. This is what the Romans were eating. It’s one of the rarest oysters you’ll see in North America. And then these are the wild natives of the West Coast. Even though they’re different species from different parts of the world, we grow all these right here in Tomales Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Okay, so, let’s taste some oysters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Let’s go shuck some oysters and see what you’re made of.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I’m ready. I’m ready to show you. Let’s go. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Cecilia, I’ve got a dozen oysters here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Are you ready?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Alright, my goal is to start here with the hinge and begin here. Okay, so here we go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Did you go to med school?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[laughs]\u003c/em> Oh, I got some shell. Aw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Here’s a little pro tip, Cecilia. I like to think of it as the Tomales Bay three-step. Right? So, when you put the knife in the hinge and apply pressure, just use a side-to-side motion. And that’ll keep you from breaking up the shell. I like to let the knife do the work for me. Do you notice you broke a sweat?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I was struggling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> You were struggling. So, if I just twist the knife, that action of the blade standing up will lift that shell. Now I’m going to slide the knife under the top shell. This is the second step. And free that top shell from the adductor muscle. Third thing is to separate the adductor muscle from the bottom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> And so, it’s easier to come up the side here and kind of release it versus digging straight in?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> That’s right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Alright. So, I’m up underneath and then… oh, my gosh, that was so much easier.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Well done. See?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> So, after someone comes and does a full, whole-hog tour experience, you get to eat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> That’s right.\u003cem> [music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Is slurping permitted?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Of course.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Mmm. 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