Can SF's New Triage Centers Help Solve the Addiction Crisis?
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If our outreach workers can offer people family reconnection services immediately, that saves a bed in our shelter system for someone who truly doesn’t have anyone to support them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:04:06] The city is willing to help facilitate their transportation and get them to this place where they may become, you know, housed and more stable. And it’s not a new idea. Other cities have tried this, but in San Jose, this would be the first time the city is officially kind of supporting it from its own housing department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:27] I want to know about the details here. Like, how is that going to work? Are they going to take a survey? Like, hey, who has family that could take them in? Who is this intended for? How is this going to work?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:04:38] Yeah so technically anybody who’s currently unhoused is eligible. 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What we have seen in surveys from city and county officials who who work with the unhoused is that the large majority of people living on the streets of San Jose right now report that their last known physical address was in San Jose or in Santa Clara County, which is a broad place. but certainly they’re not necessarily, you know coming from afar before they became homeless they were living here or living in this region when whatever the circumstances were that occurred to make them lose their houses\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:26] As you said, this is new for San Jose, but isn’t new in general. And this certainly isn’t the first time I’ve heard of this idea. Do we have any examples, recent examples or otherwise, of this type of program in action?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:07:42] Absolutely. One of the best programs, I guess, to make a comparison for here in the Bay Area is San Francisco. 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If our outreach workers can offer people family reconnection services immediately, that saves a bed in our shelter system for someone who truly doesn’t have anyone to support them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:04:06] The city is willing to help facilitate their transportation and get them to this place where they may become, you know, housed and more stable. And it’s not a new idea. Other cities have tried this, but in San Jose, this would be the first time the city is officially kind of supporting it from its own housing department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:27] I want to know about the details here. Like, how is that going to work? Are they going to take a survey? Like, hey, who has family that could take them in? Who is this intended for? How is this going to work?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:04:38] Yeah so technically anybody who’s currently unhoused is eligible. If you are one of the many thousands living on the streets of San Jose and trying to find a better situation you have the prerequisites already. Outreach workers who work for the city currently or who contract with the city through a non -profit who are already going out to talk to unhoused people on a daily or weekly basis and learn about their living situation and ask them about their needs well they’re essentially just going to be adding one more question into something that they might already be talking with them about, and that question’s going to be, hey, do you think you have a family member or a friend or someone from your past who would be willing to put you up? And if that conversation develops into, you know, the right opportunity being there, that outreach worker can verify some of those details with, like, a phone call to a family member or a friend and try to ensure that all that is correct and that there’s a person willing to accept someone on the other end. And then if that all lines up, they can help them buy a bus or train ticket right there on the spot, or maybe within a couple of days and get this person set up and on their way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:05:44] And this would be a bus or train ticket to potentially anywhere in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:05:49] Anywhere. Yeah, it sounds like anywhere that can be reached by bus or train up to a $1 ,000 limit is what the city said they will spend on each person. At least in the early going here, that’s going to be on the table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:06:01] You know, I know that you can, through this program, get transported to another part of San Jose. It’s not just to get people out of the area. But I do think embedded in this story is this idea that I hear a lot, which is that people come to cities in California, like San Jose, San Francisco, LA, from other parts of the country because it’s a better place to live outside. It’s warmer and there’s more resources to essentially take advantage of. How true is that in San Jose? Do we even know how many people living outside in San Jose are from out of town versus in the city?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:06:40] It’s a common misconception that a lot of people who are unhoused might come to places like San Jose for, you know, more generous handouts or better weather, but the data doesn’t really support that. What we have seen in surveys from city and county officials who who work with the unhoused is that the large majority of people living on the streets of San Jose right now report that their last known physical address was in San Jose or in Santa Clara County, which is a broad place. but certainly they’re not necessarily, you know coming from afar before they became homeless they were living here or living in this region when whatever the circumstances were that occurred to make them lose their houses\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:26] As you said, this is new for San Jose, but isn’t new in general. And this certainly isn’t the first time I’ve heard of this idea. Do we have any examples, recent examples or otherwise, of this type of program in action?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:07:42] Absolutely. One of the best programs, I guess, to make a comparison for here in the Bay Area is San Francisco. In San Francisco, they had a program called Homeward Bound, which is the same name as the San Jose program that’s been running for about 20 years. That program was started by then -mayor Gavin Newsom in San Francisco. The issue there is we’ve had some kind of mixed results in terms of understanding how successful it has been. Some of the issues might be, okay, so the person gets set up with this ticket, they end up where they’re going, and maybe even they call the back to let them know. that, yes, I’ve made it to so -and -so’s place, and things are going good. But who knows what happens to them a week, a month, three months, a year out? Are they becoming homeless in another city or another portion of the city? Are they struggling in some way? Is their life improving in a marked way?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dr. Jamie Chang \u003c/strong>[00:08:37] The lack of a bus ticket home is not the root cause of homelessness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:08:41] I spoke with Dr. Jamie Chang, she’s an associate professor at UC Berkeley’s School of Social Welfare, and she has raised some concerns about whether or not the program does enough to find out if it is a success.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dr. Jamie Chang \u003c/strong>[00:08:53] There is very, very little evidence as to the long -term success of these programs. We don’t really know what happens to people once they’re dropped off at their destination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:09:03] And that’s why some people have concerns about whether or not the program is doing what it actually intends to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dr. Jamie Chang \u003c/strong>[00:09:09] While these programs might temporarily be effective at removing people from an area without a system in place to ensure their success elsewhere, I’m skeptical about its overall efficacy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:09:27] Okay, so people like Mayor Matt Mahan say, this is just one tool in the toolbox. We’re trying a lot of things. If you have a loved one who can take care of you somewhere else, we will help you get there. People like Dr. Chang are warning that there’s not a lot of data or evidence that this really works, at least based on San Francisco’s experience. I gotta imagine there are critics based in San Jose as well who think that this is a bad idea, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:09:54] Yeah, one of the people I spoke with is Gail Osmer, and she’s a long -time advocate for people who are unhoused.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gail Osmer \u003c/strong>[00:10:01] I don’t agree with it. Some people do want to go home and it works for them and I think it’s a great idea, but I think mainly it’s going to be a failure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:10:12] But her biggest concern when I spoke with her about this is, you know, a few things. First of all, a trust element. She’s not really certain that folks who are in the unhoused community who might have a little bit of, you know, distrust of authority figures and stuff, or someone they may not know in an outreach worker very closely, that they’re just going to start spilling all these details about their friends or family or their past lives or somebody who might be able to take them in. You know, it may not be a subject they want to talk about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gail Osmer \u003c/strong>[00:10:37] Do you think the unhoused are going to trust a stranger or somebody they don’t really know to give them information or even talk to them about going home?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:10:47] The second problem she had, of course, is just similar to Dr. Chang, is the verification of where they’re going to end up. And, you know, she raised an example, of course, that the city, even through its best efforts and good faith, may not actually be able to verify what kind of home environment people are going to be sent to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gail Osmer \u003c/strong>[00:11:04] But there’s a lot of problems that people have probably at home, you know, and we don’t know the home environment. What if somebody is clean and sober and they send them home or whatever, and they’re in a home where there’s, you know, alcoholism?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Joseph Geha \u003c/strong>[00:11:21] The connotation with hearing about bus or train tickets being offered for unhoused people to essentially leave the area, it does sometimes strike people the wrong way. One of the concerns that Gail Osmer raised with us was that she believes the mayor might be doing this for the wrong reasons. 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As far as whether the follow -up is actually going to be there, it sounds like the city is not going to put a lot of resources into that. So what kind of data and what kind of qualitative evaluation the city is gonna put into deciding whether or not to. continue or expand this program in the future after its initial run, it still kind of remains to be seen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:12:53] We should say this is one of many things San Jose is doing. You know, it’s a $200 ,000 pilot program, which is not a lot of money for a city of San Jose size, definitely a lot of money for a regular person. But what does this story tell us about the city’s priorities when it comes to homelessness and housing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In this edition of the Bay’s monthly news roundup, Alan, Jessica, and intern Mel talk about renewed fears of real estate development at San Francisco’s Presidio, an increase in FasTrak scam texts, and concerns around two famous peregrine falcons at UC Berkeley.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Links:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12028300/trump-order-revives-fears-real-estate-push-san-franciscos-presidio\">Trump Order Revives Fears of Real Estate Push for San Francisco’s Presidio\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/fastrak-scam-texts-20184874.php\">Bay Area FasTrak scams are surging — again: ‘It’s been nonstop’\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.berkeleyside.org/2025/02/24/uc-berkeley-falcons-missing-avian-flu-annie-archie\">UC Berkeley falcons Annie and Archie are missing. Is bird flu the cause?\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC2783029169&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:00:31] I wanna thank all the people who filled in on the show throughout the month. That’s Cecilia Lei, Katrina Schwartz, Dana Cronin, Alex Gonzalez, and Tessa Paoli. If that feels like a long list of people filling in, it’s because both myself and Erica have been out for a good amount of the month. So thanks to all those folks for filling in and thank you both Mel and Jessica for holding it down. Okay, well, let’s jump into the news roundup. Let’s talk about some. stories that we’ve all been following. Actually, Mel, let’s start with you. What do you got for us?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Mel Velasquez \u003c/strong>[00:01:03] I have this story that was originally reported by KQED reporter Katie DeBenedetti. And last week, the Trump administration signed an executive order to dramatically cut federal agencies, including the Presidio Trust. That would mean that that land, the park, would no longer be public land and could be up for grabs to be developed by private companies. and they’re even asking for the $200 million given to the park through the Inflation Reduction Act back. It’s really devastating. It’s the first park I ever visited in San Francisco as a kid, and that was like stunning. And I was like, one day I’m gonna live in San Francisco. So that was kind of like my first kind of my source of love for the city. All around, this is just pretty shocking news to most San Franciscans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:02:04] Obviously the Presidio is beloved. I mean, I used to live nearby. What are people worried could happen to the Presidio now?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Mel Velasquez \u003c/strong>[00:02:13] Yeah, so not only do people like really love this park, but they’re also worried that it could turn into a land grab for real estate developers to build city developments on. And this isn’t the first time that the Bayside has been like considered for more urban development. There is this idea for a city called Marincello in the Marin Headlands, and it was proposed in the 1960s. It was supposed to be a bustling city with 30 ,000 residents and tons of new developments. And the Marin County Board of Supervisors actually approved it, but the Golden Gate National Recreation Area was then established as a result of all the legal battles of environmental activists and environmental groups coming in and trying to push back against this proposed Maroncello. So then it just didn’t happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:03:15] So there’s this history of attempts to develop on this public land. Are there current plans to build stuff in this area? Are there people saying, Hey, if you get rid of the Presidio Trust, I would love to build something here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Mel Velasquez \u003c/strong>[00:03:32] Well, actually, Trump proposed an idea for this concept called freedom cities. It would be like 10 different cities built on federal land. I think this was just mentioned during his campaign, but there’s this guy, the founder of Charter Cities Institute, which pretty much advocates for new independent cities with like different… methods of governing. It’s a little vague, but that’s what I’ve found on it. His name is Mark Lutter, and he actually was urging Trump on X to start developing a freedom city in the Presidio, but it’s not anything that’s actually happening right now. It’s just being talked about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:04:24] Yeah, I mean, it’s interesting, you know, we’ve obviously seen a slew of executive orders. We’ve also seen pushback in the courts. We’ve seen things walked back. With the Presidio, do you think that, you know, this could actually happen? Like, do you think that, you know, it could dramatically change from being this like public park to something private or are there other, you know, mechanisms or laws in place that are protecting it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Mel Velasquez \u003c/strong>[00:04:52] So because it’s such a beloved piece of land, like, this would take a really long time to happen and is unlikely that this will happen because of something passed in 1996 called the Presidio Trust Act, which incorporates the Presidio land into the Golden Gate National Recreation Area, which protects it from being developed, which includes that a previous proposed Marincello area, which is the Marin Headlands, or what we know to be the Marin Headlands. So the Presidio is a part of that, and it would be very hard to work around that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:05:37] Well, Mel, I appreciate you bringing this story to us and kind of like a history behind, you know, the sort of big headline grabby story about the Trump administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Mel Velasquez \u003c/strong>[00:05:48] Of course, thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:05:52] We’re going to take a break. When we come back, we’ll talk about a fast track, scam texts, and where did the Falcons go in Berkeley? Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:06:10] And you’re listening to The Bay. I’m Alan Montesilio in for Erika Cruz Guevara. And this is our news roundup for the month of February. I’m here with intern Mel Velasquez and producer Jessica Carissa. And next up, we have a story that I’ve been following. FasTrak scam texts appear to be on the rise. I don’t know, have either of you gotten a text from a number saying, Hey, you didn’t pay your FasTrak bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:06:38] Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Mel Velasquez \u003c/strong>[00:06:39] Literally, literally all the time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:06:42] Yeah, I mean, apparently they are increasing. They’re getting more aggressive and more sophisticated even. I mean, I got one about three weeks ago. It was from a number in the Philippines. So I could, you know, kind of tell that it was not. to tell that it was not. Not legit, but it does say, you know, pay your fast track lane tolls by February 1st to avoid a fine and your license you can pay at, and then there’s a URL. So more and more of these, I think, attempted scams in general, but fast track in particular seems to be on the rise lately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:07:12] You know, I’ve noticed that I’ve gotten a lot of these texts. So how can you tell that this is a scam text?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:20] Well, currently there’s a few telltale signs. Um, one is, is oftentimes the phone number is, you know, from another country. A lot of times these messages will provide a URL to a website. Oftentimes those, that website URL will have like a series of numbers and letters. It’ll look kind of weird. Sometimes they’ll even try to imitate the URL of, you know, fast track or whatever the transit authorities try, you know, is in the region. The most recent ones I’ve gotten too, and not even just for fast track for, for texts I’ve gotten pretending to be the post office, they’ll say, please reply why then copy this link into your browser and activate it. So some of those signs are definitely there. One thing that folks have noticed recently is that the spelling in these texts has gotten much better. There are fewer mistakes. You know, usually you can tell if, if like the spelling is way off or the grammar is way off. This is probably not coming from, you know, Fast Track, but that’s gotten better. And the messaging has gotten more aggressive saying like, hey, if you don’t pay, you’re gonna lose your license. Hey, if you don’t pay, you know, you’re gonna pay a fine. But those are some of the signs, right? FasTrak has said, they will never ask you to pay over text. In fact, the only text I’ve ever gotten related to Fast Track come from 86557 and they’re only about when I’m trying to reset my online account. If it does happen to you, FasTrak says call your bank, call your credit card company. We know that law enforcement is obviously aware of this. And in fact, a spokesperson with Rob Bonta’s office, the attorney general said, don’t click on these, but they also couldn’t confirm or deny the existence of an investigation. So maybe they’re checking it out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:09:07] Yeah, I’ve definitely gotten those scams before And it always freaks me out because I’m always dipping into the fast track lane I guess how do we even know that they’re increasing? I guess it’s only been anecdotal for me, but is there a way to actually report this stuff or track it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:09:24] I mean, data is a little hard, right? I mean, I just told you about a message I got. I did not report that to some agency. John Goodwin with Metropolitan Planning Commission, that’s the agency that handles transit, planning for regional projects. They also run the Bay Area seven bridges. He told the San Francisco Chronicle a few days ago that it’s been about nonstop for almost a year. There were also about 2000 reports to the FBI’s Internet Crime Complaint Center in about a two month span last year. So, you know, it is hard to, this is also a national thing. It’s not just a Bay area thing, right? In many states across the country, this is happening. So it is a little tough, but even just like having this conversation and even just in my own life, I’m noticing that I’m getting more of it. So, hard to be, you know, hard to put an exact number on it. But this is kind of, you know, I think just one of the features of our, you know, technological existence that we can get pinged by all these texts that say, you didn’t pay your bill. Have you ever like fallen for one of these or have you had to like help a relative sort of navigate this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Mel Velasquez \u003c/strong>[00:10:29] I haven’t, but I know that my grandpa has unfortunately fallen for one of those internet security scams. For people who didn’t grow up with the technology, it can be really scary to receive a message like that, especially threatening ones being like, you owe this much money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:10:52] Yeah. 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And the Marin County Board of Supervisors actually approved it, but the Golden Gate National Recreation Area was then established as a result of all the legal battles of environmental activists and environmental groups coming in and trying to push back against this proposed Maroncello. So then it just didn’t happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:03:15] So there’s this history of attempts to develop on this public land. Are there current plans to build stuff in this area? Are there people saying, Hey, if you get rid of the Presidio Trust, I would love to build something here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Mel Velasquez \u003c/strong>[00:03:32] Well, actually, Trump proposed an idea for this concept called freedom cities. It would be like 10 different cities built on federal land. I think this was just mentioned during his campaign, but there’s this guy, the founder of Charter Cities Institute, which pretty much advocates for new independent cities with like different… methods of governing. It’s a little vague, but that’s what I’ve found on it. His name is Mark Lutter, and he actually was urging Trump on X to start developing a freedom city in the Presidio, but it’s not anything that’s actually happening right now. It’s just being talked about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:04:24] Yeah, I mean, it’s interesting, you know, we’ve obviously seen a slew of executive orders. We’ve also seen pushback in the courts. We’ve seen things walked back. With the Presidio, do you think that, you know, this could actually happen? 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I’m here with intern Mel Velasquez and producer Jessica Carissa. And next up, we have a story that I’ve been following. FasTrak scam texts appear to be on the rise. I don’t know, have either of you gotten a text from a number saying, Hey, you didn’t pay your FasTrak bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:06:38] Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Mel Velasquez \u003c/strong>[00:06:39] Literally, literally all the time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:06:42] Yeah, I mean, apparently they are increasing. They’re getting more aggressive and more sophisticated even. I mean, I got one about three weeks ago. It was from a number in the Philippines. So I could, you know, kind of tell that it was not. to tell that it was not. Not legit, but it does say, you know, pay your fast track lane tolls by February 1st to avoid a fine and your license you can pay at, and then there’s a URL. So more and more of these, I think, attempted scams in general, but fast track in particular seems to be on the rise lately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:07:12] You know, I’ve noticed that I’ve gotten a lot of these texts. So how can you tell that this is a scam text?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:20] Well, currently there’s a few telltale signs. Um, one is, is oftentimes the phone number is, you know, from another country. A lot of times these messages will provide a URL to a website. Oftentimes those, that website URL will have like a series of numbers and letters. It’ll look kind of weird. Sometimes they’ll even try to imitate the URL of, you know, fast track or whatever the transit authorities try, you know, is in the region. The most recent ones I’ve gotten too, and not even just for fast track for, for texts I’ve gotten pretending to be the post office, they’ll say, please reply why then copy this link into your browser and activate it. So some of those signs are definitely there. One thing that folks have noticed recently is that the spelling in these texts has gotten much better. There are fewer mistakes. You know, usually you can tell if, if like the spelling is way off or the grammar is way off. This is probably not coming from, you know, Fast Track, but that’s gotten better. And the messaging has gotten more aggressive saying like, hey, if you don’t pay, you’re gonna lose your license. Hey, if you don’t pay, you know, you’re gonna pay a fine. But those are some of the signs, right? FasTrak has said, they will never ask you to pay over text. In fact, the only text I’ve ever gotten related to Fast Track come from 86557 and they’re only about when I’m trying to reset my online account. If it does happen to you, FasTrak says call your bank, call your credit card company. We know that law enforcement is obviously aware of this. And in fact, a spokesperson with Rob Bonta’s office, the attorney general said, don’t click on these, but they also couldn’t confirm or deny the existence of an investigation. So maybe they’re checking it out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Jessica Kariisa \u003c/strong>[00:09:07] Yeah, I’ve definitely gotten those scams before And it always freaks me out because I’m always dipping into the fast track lane I guess how do we even know that they’re increasing? 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"content": "\u003cp>A new “triage center” in San Francisco’s South of Market neighborhood opened in early February. It’s one of Mayor Daniel Lurie’s first tangible initiatives to address the city’s fentanyl crisis as he embarks on his first year in office. A second center is also planned in the Tenderloin. KQED’s Sydney Johnson visited the new center and tells us what she saw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. San Francisco Northern California Local.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC2045630332&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:00:58] Tell me about where you went recently in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:01:03] Yeah, I recently spent some time over on 6th Street between Jesse and Stevenson. This part of South of Market has become known as a sort of hotspot for outdoor drug use and drug dealing in particular. It’s also the site of the city’s latest experiment for addressing the fentanyl crisis. In an alleyway just right off of 6th and Jesse, actually in a fenced off corner of an old Nordstrom parking lot, there’s recently been erected this new, what the city has called a triage center. There’s a gate just facing 6th Street. And when you walk in, you see about half a dozen white easy up tents, sort of the tents that you see at like a farmer’s market with picnic tables underneath. The days that I went, there were a couple different service providers there, groups like Code Tenderloin, the Department of Public Health had some people there, and really just some folks that were trying to offer connections to basic city services. Most prominently, there was a station that they were handing out hot coffee and snacks and water and directing people to a bathroom that they could use if they needed to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:02:27] So tell me then who you spoke with when you were there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:02:30] I spoke to several people coming and going from this triage center. I spoke to one couple who went in, they were currently living in their car in the neighborhood. They were looking for a place to stay that night, but when they left, they said that they still didn’t know where they’d be sleeping and were planning on staying in their car again. and then I spoke with Alex Crafton.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alex Crafton \u003c/strong>[00:02:51] I just try to avoid 6th Street lately, like with how crazy it’s been.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:02:56] He’s 26 years old. He used to live in a single room occupancy hotel just next door to where the site is now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alex Crafton \u003c/strong>[00:03:02] I just came down here last night and I noticed that was set up. I was like, what the hell is this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:03:07] He was able to get a cup of coffee and, you know, saw a couple different services that he was already familiar with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alex Crafton \u003c/strong>[00:03:14] You know, just pointing you in the right direction because a lot of these people out here are clueless on where to go. I pretty much knew all those things and I’m all good. I just wanted a cup of coffee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:03:25] So he ended up leaving and didn’t find exactly what he was looking for. But he did feel like that would be potentially helpful to folks who maybe don’t know about those services. He also heard that this place was ultimately going to become a police command center, and he was kind of confused and curious about what that was. So he stopped by to check it out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alex Crafton \u003c/strong>[00:03:44] The cops have been cracking down more lately, but it’s a lawless city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:03:52] Police are cracking down on outdoor drug use and outdoor drug dealing. In fact, Alex told me that just a few weeks ago, he was arrested at this same corner at Six and Jesse for drug possession, and he was released within 24 hours.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:11] Tell me a bit more about how this center got set up. How did it come about?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:04:16] This center opened up just around the same time that Mayor Lurie signed his first major piece of legislation into law that he has sponsored as mayor. So this was an ordinance that gave him expanded powers and specifically it allowed him to speed up hiring and contracting for work by removing the need for certain approvals by the Board of Supervisors and some of this other red tape. specifically for services and programs related to homelessness and fentanyl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mayor Daniel Lurie \u003c/strong>[00:04:50] The opportunity before us is to create real options for people, because right now they’re not there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:04:57] Laurie was recently on Forum and talked about the Triage Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mayor Daniel Lurie \u003c/strong>[00:05:01] We are going to demand that people move from the street and into that place where they can get a cup of coffee, they can be seen by somebody.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:05:11] Right now, the city does not have nearly enough emergency shelter beds to address the need. So Lurie’s hoping that this legislation will allow him to bring in private funding, cut through bureaucracy, and speed up the city’s response to fentanyl and homelessness. And this triage center is kind of one component of that vision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:05:35] Let’s talk a little more about this specific site. Can you get connected to drug treatment, housing, shelter? Like what specifically is available to people who need help?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:05:48] So on the days that I went, there were social workers that were offering help getting signed up for benefits like food stamps, signing up for government IDs. People could get added to waitlists for shelter, and that was what several people told me they were walking in to find out about. The same goes for housing, obviously. There are opportunities to sign up for housing, but in the city, there are enormous waitlists for supportive housing. For folks who are interested in treatment, the Department of Public Health is also sending staff members to this site. And people can get connected to medications pretty quickly, like buprenorphine, which actually helps reduce cravings around fentanyl and opioids. And that has been actually a big type of treatment that the city has been leaning on, as residential treatment is often very expensive. It’s hard to build up. This site is also intended to help the police. Like a stated goal of this site was to create a more convenient location where police can hand over the people that they arrest or detain for things like public drug use and hand them off to sheriff’s deputies who could then transport them to jail. Idea behind that is to allow police to more quickly get back on the street rather than having to drive halfway across town and then hand people off to sheriff’s deputies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:16] So it’s a walk -in pop -up space for services potentially, but also a drop -off place for police? Is this happening in the same space?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:07:28] That’s a great question. So the first couple of weeks, there was no visible sign of any of the police detainment, you know, part of this plan and vision happening on site. And actually, when I spoke to the mayor’s office recently, I asked for a timeline, you know, when are we going to see this part of the site materialize? You know, It’s a stated goal of it. And both the mayor’s office and the police department said that they don’t have a date yet for when they might start that part of the operation. And in fact, the mayor’s office told me that the police have not actually used this site at all for any detainment so far. And you’re dealing with a lot of people who have experience with the justice system and may be turned off if they see police processing arrests or police in general behind those gates. So, it is really I think, frankly, confusing for a lot of people of who this is intended to serve and what the impacts of kind of combining those ideas might look like on the ground. Really the kind of stated goal around this as being this police command center is still something that’s very much in the works and opaque.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:08:45] It seems like there are some things available here, some not, that the law enforcement part of this is a little confusing, but how new is this approach, this sort of pop -up triage center?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:08:57] That is not a new idea. I think back to during the pandemic, actually, Mayor London Breed had an emergency declaration for the Tenderloin. And as part of her initiative, the city erected the Tenderloin Center. And this was a pop -up, you know, there were tents outside, they actually had some indoor space where people could meet with counselors, similarly get signed up for benefits and social services. The real big difference between these two sites is that the Tenderloin Center had supervised drug consumption on site where people could smoke or inject drugs with the supervision of medical professionals around who could reverse an overdose if it took place. I think it’s important to point out that there were no overdose deaths that took place at the Tenderloin Center all 10 months it was open, and they reversed over 300 overdoses. But this new triage center and the one that Laurie is supposedly planning to open this spring will not have any drug use allowed on site, and in fact is inviting police to come inside and potentially detain people who were using drugs on the street.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:10:17] Seems like there’s some of the same services on offer, but that the big difference is, as you said, no supervised drug consumption, but an even more, quote unquote, police friendly, to use Lurie’s words, approach.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:10:31] There’s other differences, too. The Tenderloin Center was smack dab in the middle of UN Plaza. It was during the pandemic when there were a lot of other challenges going on. It received a lot of focus and negative attention by press and by people online. And it was just very visible. I mean, it had averaged hundreds of visitors a day by the time it closed. 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This is one of the city’s largest drug treatment providers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vitka Eisen \u003c/strong>[00:12:48] I don’t think the solution comes from law enforcement. I look to do things that improve health for people, increase engagement, connect people to care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:12:59] She and others have pointed to research that can show that actually sending people to jail when they are struggling with addiction can sometimes lead to increased risk of overdose because you have a tolerance drop. And if people go back and use again, that can actually really increase their likelihood of a fatal overdose. I spoke with some people who just live in the neighborhood on Sixth Street. One man named Byron who lives about a block away from the triage center told me that actually he did feel like the street and the area had looked a little bit nicer lately. He said, yeah, the streets have been a little bit calmer, but he’s really skeptical. He said that at night, a lot of the dangerous activity that was going on during the day previously picks back up again. The triage center is intended to be staffed and opened 24/7 but they are not nearly close enough to offering that yet. And in fact, it was closed all of President’s Day weekend, just about a week after opening because they didn’t have enough staff. So, you know, some of these goals that they’re reaching for with this site are still pretty far off. 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The days that I went, there were a couple different service providers there, groups like Code Tenderloin, the Department of Public Health had some people there, and really just some folks that were trying to offer connections to basic city services. Most prominently, there was a station that they were handing out hot coffee and snacks and water and directing people to a bathroom that they could use if they needed to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:02:27] So tell me then who you spoke with when you were there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:02:30] I spoke to several people coming and going from this triage center. I spoke to one couple who went in, they were currently living in their car in the neighborhood. 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So this was an ordinance that gave him expanded powers and specifically it allowed him to speed up hiring and contracting for work by removing the need for certain approvals by the Board of Supervisors and some of this other red tape. specifically for services and programs related to homelessness and fentanyl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mayor Daniel Lurie \u003c/strong>[00:04:50] The opportunity before us is to create real options for people, because right now they’re not there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:04:57] Laurie was recently on Forum and talked about the Triage Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mayor Daniel Lurie \u003c/strong>[00:05:01] We are going to demand that people move from the street and into that place where they can get a cup of coffee, they can be seen by somebody.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sydney Johnson \u003c/strong>[00:05:11] Right now, the city does not have nearly enough emergency shelter beds to address the need. 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