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It’s hard to believe,” he said.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"David Anderson, former U.S. attorney for the Northern District of California\"]‘I do think that a city like San Francisco is best served not just by honest leaders, but also by an active citizenry. And I do wonder about the level of engagement that I see in San Francisco.’[/pullquote]One important caveat hung over the conversation — as an attorney, Anderson cannot comment \u003cem>directly \u003c/em>on any active case. 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You just spend so much time right from the very beginning of your training as a lawyer thinking about things with your head more than your heart. So that’s one piece of context. And the other piece of context is that I’ve been doing this job in one form or other for more than 30 years. I’ve seen a few things in every different kind of case that we do in federal court that could be held up as the source of, to use your words, anguish, anger, disappointment. And you could add a long list of adjectives to it — fear and frustration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The thing that’s unique and powerful about the public corruption cases is the breach of public trust. And the idea that we are a sovereign people and the people who lead us are our public servants. 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