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Joe was 12-years-old when he conducted his first interview in journalism, grilling former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown for the Marina Middle School newspaper, \u003cem>The Penguin Press, \u003c/em>and he continues to report on the San Francisco Bay Area to this day.","avatar":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2247beb0564c1e9c62228d5649d2edac?s=600&d=blank&r=g","twitter":"FitztheReporter","facebook":null,"instagram":"https://www.instagram.com/fitzthereporter/","linkedin":null,"sites":[{"site":"","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"arts","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"news","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"science","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"elections","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"liveblog","roles":["editor"]}],"headData":{"title":"Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez | KQED","description":"Reporter and Producer","ogImgSrc":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2247beb0564c1e9c62228d5649d2edac?s=600&d=blank&r=g","twImgSrc":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2247beb0564c1e9c62228d5649d2edac?s=600&d=blank&r=g"},"isLoading":false,"link":"/author/jrodriguez"}},"breakingNewsReducer":{},"campaignFinanceReducer":{},"firebase":{"requesting":{},"requested":{},"timestamps":{},"data":{},"ordered":{},"auth":{"isLoaded":false,"isEmpty":true},"authError":null,"profile":{"isLoaded":false,"isEmpty":true},"listeners":{"byId":{},"allIds":[]},"isInitializing":false,"errors":[]},"navBarReducer":{"navBarId":"news","fullView":true,"showPlayer":false},"navMenuReducer":{"menus":[{"key":"menu1","items":[{"name":"News","link":"/","type":"title"},{"name":"Politics","link":"/politics"},{"name":"Science","link":"/science"},{"name":"Education","link":"/educationnews"},{"name":"Housing","link":"/housing"},{"name":"Immigration","link":"/immigration"},{"name":"Criminal Justice","link":"/criminaljustice"},{"name":"Silicon Valley","link":"/siliconvalley"},{"name":"Forum","link":"/forum"},{"name":"The California Report","link":"/californiareport"}]},{"key":"menu2","items":[{"name":"Arts & Culture","link":"/arts","type":"title"},{"name":"Critics’ Picks","link":"/thedolist"},{"name":"Cultural Commentary","link":"/artscommentary"},{"name":"Food & Drink","link":"/food"},{"name":"Bay Area Hip-Hop","link":"/bayareahiphop"},{"name":"Rebel Girls","link":"/rebelgirls"},{"name":"Arts Video","link":"/artsvideos"}]},{"key":"menu3","items":[{"name":"Podcasts","link":"/podcasts","type":"title"},{"name":"Bay Curious","link":"/podcasts/baycurious"},{"name":"Rightnowish","link":"/podcasts/rightnowish"},{"name":"The Bay","link":"/podcasts/thebay"},{"name":"On Our Watch","link":"/podcasts/onourwatch"},{"name":"Mindshift","link":"/podcasts/mindshift"},{"name":"Consider This","link":"/podcasts/considerthis"},{"name":"Political Breakdown","link":"/podcasts/politicalbreakdown"}]},{"key":"menu4","items":[{"name":"Live Radio","link":"/radio","type":"title"},{"name":"TV","link":"/tv","type":"title"},{"name":"Events","link":"/events","type":"title"},{"name":"For Educators","link":"/education","type":"title"},{"name":"Support KQED","link":"/support","type":"title"},{"name":"About","link":"/about","type":"title"},{"name":"Help Center","link":"https://kqed-helpcenter.kqed.org/s","type":"title"}]}]},"pagesReducer":{},"postsReducer":{"stream_live":{"type":"live","id":"stream_live","audioUrl":"https://streams.kqed.org/kqedradio","title":"Live Stream","excerpt":"Live Stream information currently unavailable.","link":"/radio","featImg":"","label":{"name":"KQED Live","link":"/"}},"stream_kqedNewscast":{"type":"posts","id":"stream_kqedNewscast","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/newscast.mp3?_=1","title":"KQED Newscast","featImg":"","label":{"name":"88.5 FM","link":"/"}},"news_11888513":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11888513","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11888513","score":null,"sort":[1631664230000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"heres-three-different-ways-the-recall-election-could-go","title":"Here's Three Different Ways the Recall Election Could Go","publishDate":1631664230,"format":"standard","headTitle":"CALmatters | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>Don't have time to read the whole post? Jump to a specific recall election scenario:\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#wins\">Newsom defeats the election by a lot.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#little\">Newsom survives — but by a small margin.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#loses\">Newsom is removed from office.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>For nearly 25 years, Gov. Gavin Newsom rose through the ranks of California politics without ever losing an election, buoyed by connections to powerful San Francisco Democrats and a willingness to take risks — like sanctioning marriage equality — that put him at the vanguard of his party.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then came the coronavirus pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The governor’s attention-grabbing style — implementing the nation’s first stay-at-home order in March 2020, then dining at an exclusive wine country restaurant as he told people to stay home to avoid a winter surge — rubbed enough Californians the wrong way that 1.7 million voters launched the second gubernatorial recall in state history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To fight back, the Democratic leader of one of the nation’s bluest states returned to what helped him succeed in the early days: connections to fellow Democrats and well-calculated policy risks — this time, to fight COVID-19.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a campaign rally in Long Beach on Monday night, President Joe Biden heaped praise on Newsom’s management of the pandemic. Newsom this summer made California the first state in the nation to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2021/07/california-vaccine-requirements-workers/\">require vaccines for health care workers and state employees\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Gavin Newsom has had the courage to lead, to stand up for science,” Biden said. “He’s been one of the leading governors in the nation protecting people and vaccinating his state.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Echoing Newsom’s campaign message framing the GOP-led recall as an act of “Trumpism,” Biden described the leading Republican candidate — talk radio host \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/projects/newsom-recall-candidates-larry-elder/\">Larry Elder\u003c/a> — as “the clone of Donald Trump.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Can you imagine him being governor of this state? You can’t let that happen,” said Biden, who beat Trump in California last year \u003ca href=\"https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/sov/2020-general/sov/18-presidential.pdf\">by 30 points\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888533\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11888533 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"President Joe Biden and Gov. Gavin Newsom, waving, smile as they stand stand before an American flag.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1708\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-2048x1366.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">President Joe Biden and Gov. Gavin Newsom wave to the crowd as they campaign to keep the governor in office at Long Beach City College on the eve of the last day of the special election to recall the governor on Sept. 13, 2021, in Long Beach. Forty-six candidates, mostly Republicans, ran to overthrow the governor in the recall election a year ahead of the regularly scheduled gubernatorial vote. \u003ccite>( David McNew/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hosting the president the day before the election is just one sign of how much the power of incumbency has boosted Newsom in this race. With no legal cap on his fundraising against the recall, Newsom \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/05/gavin-newsom-recall-money/\">raised five times as much as all his opponents combined\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom's team managed to haul $5.5 million from the Democratic Governors Association, $3 million from Netflix CEO Reed Hastings and more than $7.6 million from public employee unions. He ran ads featuring nationally known Democrats including former President Barack Obama and U.S. Sens. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the governor used the trappings of his office in unusual, attention-grabbing ways. He blasted critics “promoting partisan political power grabs” \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/03/newsom-pandemic-response-voters/\">during a State of the State speech\u003c/a> on the field of Dodger Stadium that served as an unofficial campaign kickoff. He \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/05/gavin-newsom-spending-spree-california-budget/\">used an enormous $76 billion state budget surplus\u003c/a> to address pandemic-induced hardships, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/projects/newsom-recall-retirees-stimulus-payments/\">sending $600 stimulus payments to most Californians\u003c/a> — checks that landed just before the election.\u003cbr>\n[ad fullwidth]\u003cbr>\nIn the final days of the campaign, Newsom leaned into COVID even further, contrasting his vaccine and mask requirements with his GOP opponents who say they’ll repeal them — and hammering a message of fear. “What’s at stake in the Sept. 14 recall? It’s a matter of life and death,” \u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/8DbZC0alxSE\">one Newsom ad says\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Rob Stutzman, Republican consultant\"]'One of the ironies of this recall is that COVID got him into trouble and COVID is going to … probably help him defeat this thing in a landslide.'[/pullquote]Having persuaded prominent Democrats to stay out of the race to replace him, Newsom finished the campaign betting that the pandemic that fueled populist angst to take him down will also stimulate the support he needs to keep his job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One of the ironies of this recall is that COVID got him into trouble and COVID is going to, in the end, probably help him defeat this thing in a landslide,” said GOP consultant Rob Stutzman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Did Newsom’s strategy work? We’ll find out after polls close tonight at 8 p.m. It may take elections officials a few days to determine the results, depending on how close the race is. Here’s a look at the three possible scenarios:\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888552\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11888552 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Gov. Newsom throws a few small lottery balls into the air in front of the Universal Studios globe statue.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1701\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-1020x678.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-1536x1021.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-2048x1361.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-1920x1276.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gov. Gavin Newsom attends a press conference marking the official reopening of the state of California at Universal Studios Hollywood on June 15, 2021, in Universal City. At the press conference, Newsom also selected 10 state residents to receive $1.5 million each as part of the final cash prize drawing in the state’s Vax for the Win program. \u003ccite>(Alberto E. Rodriguez/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>\u003ca id=\"wins\">\u003c/a>Newsom defeats the election by a lot\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s effort to win reelection in 2022 kicks off as soon as the recall votes are tallied. If the governor beats back the recall by a double-digit margin — \u003ca href=\"https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/california-recall-polls/?cid=rrpromo\">as recent polls indicate is likely\u003c/a> — he could claim an authority that could empower him in at least two ways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>First, he could continue governing the final year of this term with the same priorities he’s had all along — for enacting progressive social policy and taking a relatively strict approach to managing the coronavirus pandemic. Second, he could coast toward the 2022 campaign without fear of a credible challenger from his own party.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11888162\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/RS51414_005_Oakland_ItzelDiazandFamily_09092021-qut-1020x680.jpg\"]An overwhelming victory also could demonstrate to \u003ca href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/09/the-california-recall-could-be-a-road-map-for-democrats/620020/\">other Democrats on the ballot\u003c/a> next year that leaning into COVID vaccine mandates — and painting GOP resistance to them as a public health danger — is a successful strategy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a great thing when good public policy winds up with good politics,” said Ace Smith, Newsom’s longtime political strategist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stutzman agreed, saying that a big margin for Newsom would show that voters favor his strict approach on vaccines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“His team figured out that once a majority of voters were vaccinated, it becomes a popular idea to put forward policies that are in the best interest of those who are vaccinated,” said Stutzman, who worked on Arnold Schwarzenegger’s successful campaign in the 2003 recall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They figured it out before the White House did.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>President Biden \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-joe-biden-business-health-travel-a1670ffa08f1f2eab42c675d99f1d9ad\">required federal government employees to get vaccinated\u003c/a> days after Newsom’s first announcement. He then followed it up last week with a \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/09/us/politics/biden-vaccine-federal-workers.html\">broader mandate for employees at private companies\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even if Newsom pulls through by a large margin, a show of strength now does not guarantee long-term political success. Any ambitions Newsom may have to run for president will be shaped by a lot more than defeating this recall, said Democratic strategist Paul Maslin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What he does on a host of issues that are very difficult over the next year — or the next five years if he has a second term — will be much more important to how he is judged,” Maslin said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Paul Maslin, Democratic strategist\"]'If [Newsom] does win by a significant margin, it will reinforce [his] status … what it says about the rest of his career is unknowable.'[/pullquote]“Ultimately I don’t know that it will mean that much in the story of Gavin Newsom or California. It will be sort of a diversion that he had to respond to.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maslin, who worked on campaigns against the 2003 recall of former Gov. Gray Davis and for the failed recall of Republican former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, pointed to the example of Walker, who \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2012/06/05/154384654/live-blog-wisconsin-decides-governors-fate-in-recall-vote\">beat back a recall in 2012\u003c/a>, won reelection in 2014 and was seen as a strong contender for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Walker's \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/09/21/442313437/reports-scott-walker-ending-presidential-campaign\">presidential campaign flopped\u003c/a>. And then in 2018, he ran for reelection as governor — and lost.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Newsom was always going to be the huge favorite for reelection, and if he does win by a significant margin, it will reinforce that status,” Maslin said. “What it says about the rest of his career is unknowable.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888553\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11888553 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-scaled.jpg\" alt='Gov. Gavin Newsom stands at a podium with a stern look, a large lighted sign beyond him that says, \"Vote.\"' width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gov. Gavin Newsom speaks during a campaign event with President Joe Biden at Long Beach City College in Long Beach on Sept. 13, 2021. “If [Newsom] limps out of this, there will be some blood in the water,” said Steve Maviglio, a Democratic political consultant. \u003ccite>(Brendan Smialowski/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>\u003ca id=\"little\">\u003c/a>Newsom survives by a little\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Defeating the recall by a narrow margin — \u003ca href=\"https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/sov/2018-general/sov/21-governor.pdf\">significantly less than his 24-percentage-point\u003c/a> win over Republican \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/projects/newsom-recall-candidates-john-cox/\">John Cox in 2018\u003c/a> — could weaken Newsom as he heads into reelection next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If he limps out of this, there will be some blood in the water,” said Steve Maviglio, a Democratic political consultant. “Another Democrat will think they could do better and they can take him on.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11888182\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/Capitol-1180x787-3-1020x680.jpeg\"]Republicans who backed the recall could claim a kind of victory from weakening the governor, even if they failed to throw him out of office. Some of them already are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’s spent $80 million, he’s in the fight of his life, he’s called in the president and the vice president,” said Anne Dunsmore, a recall campaign manager.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’s taking it seriously and he’s using a lot of resources to combat us … We’ve already won. We’ve made our point.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A narrow win would also likely trigger lawsuits over the validity of the election results. Conservative commentators have already begun saying, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/08/newsom-recall-election-fraud-myths/\">with no evidence\u003c/a>, that voter fraud \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/12/us/politics/gop-voter-fraud-california-recall.html\">will be to blame if Newsom\u003c/a> remains in office. Former President Donald Trump \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/LATSeema/status/1437461490232037380?s=20\">issued a statement\u003c/a> Monday calling the recall “another giant Election Scam.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elder has said he \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/08/politics/larry-elder-claims-california-recall/index.html\">plans to file lawsuits over election irregularities\u003c/a>. His website \u003ca href=\"https://stopcafraud.com/\">links to another site\u003c/a> that asks voters to sign a petition “demanding a special session of the California legislature to investigate and ameliorate the twisted results of this 2021 Recall Election of Governor Gavin Newsom.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom called Elder’s stance “an extension of the Big Lie” that Trump stoked about his loss last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The election hasn’t even happened and now they’re all fanning election fraud,” Newsom said Friday. “I encourage voters to come out in overwhelming numbers … So we can put all this nonsense to rest.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888537\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11888537 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-scaled.jpg\" alt='Larry Elder stands near a podium sign that reads, \"Yes on Recall, The People v. Newsom.\"' width=\"2560\" height=\"1494\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-800x467.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-1020x595.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-160x93.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-1536x897.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-2048x1196.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-1920x1121.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gubernatorial recall candidate Larry Elder looks on as he is introduced at an event in Monterey Park, California, on Sept. 13, 2021, the last day before the Sept. 14 recall election of California Gov. Gavin Newsom. \u003ccite>(Frederic J. BROWN/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>\u003ca id=\"loses\">\u003c/a>Newsom is removed from office\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>More recent polls have consistently indicated that it’s unlikely the recall will prevail. If voters do throw Newsom out of office, it will show\u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/09/newsom-recall-poll-campaign/\"> how difficult it is for pollsters to predict an unusual election\u003c/a> such as a gubernatorial recall, where it can be hard to measure how many voters will turn out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far, older and white voters are returning their ballots at a higher rate than other demographic groups, \u003ca href=\"https://www.politicaldata.com/2021-special-election-tracker/\">according to tabulations by Political Data Inc.\u003c/a> If the recall is successful, it may be because \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/projects/newsom-recall-young-voters/\">younger voters\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/projects/newsom-recall-latino-voters/\">Latino voters\u003c/a> — key blocs in the Democratic coalition — don’t cast ballots, or vote to recall Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11886134\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/08/GettyImages-2586310-1020x740.jpg\"]A successful recall would be a huge victory for the California GOP, which has been beleaguered and shrinking for many years. If Newsom is recalled, the new governor — most likely talk radio host Elder — would be sworn in by the end of October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though a Republican governor \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/08/newsom-recall-republicans-govern/\">would face many hurdles enacting new laws\u003c/a> because of the huge majority Democrats have in the Legislature, he could have the chance to make a significant political appointment, should Democratic U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who is 88, become unable to finish her term. Elder has said he would appoint a Republican to her seat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s why Democrat Christine Pelosi said that if Newsom is recalled, California lawmakers should immediately call a special session and change the rules for how political vacancies are filled in the Senate and state constitutional offices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, there are few limits on whom the governor can appoint to those positions. Pelosi, the daughter of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and an officer with the California Democratic Party, said the rules could be changed to require replacement by someone from the same party as the outgoing official.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The Legislature can do that,” she said. “And in my view they should.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every governor since 1960 has faced an attempted recall, but most efforts fell short of the signatures needed to qualify for the ballot. Would liberal activists try to recall a Republican winner of this recall?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s possible. But it seems unlikely, given the time involved in mounting a recall and the regularly scheduled gubernatorial election next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Timing wise, it doesn’t make sense,” Pelosi said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>And no matter what …\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Expect California lawmakers to begin working on possible changes to the recall process. Whether there will be bipartisan support for an overhaul is unclear. But Democratic leaders said they intend to start examining the recall rules later this year or early next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label ='Related Coverage' tag='recall-election']“We’ve heard that people want change, and we in the Legislature will take a look at that,” state Senate leader Toni Atkins told reporters on Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon echoed her view, saying the recall system “was set up a century ago. The extent to which it’s still valid in its current form … merits discussion.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Surveys have shown that California voters \u003ca href=\"https://www.igs.berkeley.edu/research/berkeley-igs-poll\">support changing the recall rules\u003c/a>. Potential changes could include a runoff if no replacement candidate receives a majority of the vote, making it harder for recalls to qualify for the ballot and limiting recalls to situations where a public official has broken the law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Such changes would require approval from voters. So any plan that lawmakers come up with would likely go on the ballot next year in the form of a statewide initiative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s right: Voting in the recall election ends this Tuesday. But recall rules may be on the ballot next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>CalMatters reporter Mikhail Zinshteyn contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"With a few hours left in the California recall election, we look at three different possible scenarios for the outcome.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1631727609,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":56,"wordCount":2576},"headData":{"title":"Here's Three Different Ways the Recall Election Could Go | KQED","description":"With a few hours left in the California recall election, we look at three different possible scenarios for the outcome.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Here's Three Different Ways the Recall Election Could Go","datePublished":"2021-09-15T00:03:50.000Z","dateModified":"2021-09-15T17:40:09.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11888513 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11888513","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2021/09/14/heres-three-different-ways-the-recall-election-could-go/","disqusTitle":"Here's Three Different Ways the Recall Election Could Go","source":"CalMatters","sourceUrl":"https://calmatters.org/","nprByline":"\u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/author/laurel-rosenhall/\">Laurel Rosenhall\u003c/a>","path":"/news/11888513/heres-three-different-ways-the-recall-election-could-go","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Don't have time to read the whole post? Jump to a specific recall election scenario:\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#wins\">Newsom defeats the election by a lot.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#little\">Newsom survives — but by a small margin.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#loses\">Newsom is removed from office.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>For nearly 25 years, Gov. Gavin Newsom rose through the ranks of California politics without ever losing an election, buoyed by connections to powerful San Francisco Democrats and a willingness to take risks — like sanctioning marriage equality — that put him at the vanguard of his party.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then came the coronavirus pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The governor’s attention-grabbing style — implementing the nation’s first stay-at-home order in March 2020, then dining at an exclusive wine country restaurant as he told people to stay home to avoid a winter surge — rubbed enough Californians the wrong way that 1.7 million voters launched the second gubernatorial recall in state history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To fight back, the Democratic leader of one of the nation’s bluest states returned to what helped him succeed in the early days: connections to fellow Democrats and well-calculated policy risks — this time, to fight COVID-19.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a campaign rally in Long Beach on Monday night, President Joe Biden heaped praise on Newsom’s management of the pandemic. Newsom this summer made California the first state in the nation to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2021/07/california-vaccine-requirements-workers/\">require vaccines for health care workers and state employees\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Gavin Newsom has had the courage to lead, to stand up for science,” Biden said. “He’s been one of the leading governors in the nation protecting people and vaccinating his state.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Echoing Newsom’s campaign message framing the GOP-led recall as an act of “Trumpism,” Biden described the leading Republican candidate — talk radio host \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/projects/newsom-recall-candidates-larry-elder/\">Larry Elder\u003c/a> — as “the clone of Donald Trump.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Can you imagine him being governor of this state? You can’t let that happen,” said Biden, who beat Trump in California last year \u003ca href=\"https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/sov/2020-general/sov/18-presidential.pdf\">by 30 points\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888533\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11888533 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"President Joe Biden and Gov. Gavin Newsom, waving, smile as they stand stand before an American flag.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1708\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-2048x1366.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242589-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">President Joe Biden and Gov. Gavin Newsom wave to the crowd as they campaign to keep the governor in office at Long Beach City College on the eve of the last day of the special election to recall the governor on Sept. 13, 2021, in Long Beach. Forty-six candidates, mostly Republicans, ran to overthrow the governor in the recall election a year ahead of the regularly scheduled gubernatorial vote. \u003ccite>( David McNew/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hosting the president the day before the election is just one sign of how much the power of incumbency has boosted Newsom in this race. With no legal cap on his fundraising against the recall, Newsom \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/05/gavin-newsom-recall-money/\">raised five times as much as all his opponents combined\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom's team managed to haul $5.5 million from the Democratic Governors Association, $3 million from Netflix CEO Reed Hastings and more than $7.6 million from public employee unions. He ran ads featuring nationally known Democrats including former President Barack Obama and U.S. Sens. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the governor used the trappings of his office in unusual, attention-grabbing ways. He blasted critics “promoting partisan political power grabs” \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/03/newsom-pandemic-response-voters/\">during a State of the State speech\u003c/a> on the field of Dodger Stadium that served as an unofficial campaign kickoff. He \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/05/gavin-newsom-spending-spree-california-budget/\">used an enormous $76 billion state budget surplus\u003c/a> to address pandemic-induced hardships, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/projects/newsom-recall-retirees-stimulus-payments/\">sending $600 stimulus payments to most Californians\u003c/a> — checks that landed just before the election.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cbr>\nIn the final days of the campaign, Newsom leaned into COVID even further, contrasting his vaccine and mask requirements with his GOP opponents who say they’ll repeal them — and hammering a message of fear. “What’s at stake in the Sept. 14 recall? It’s a matter of life and death,” \u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/8DbZC0alxSE\">one Newsom ad says\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'One of the ironies of this recall is that COVID got him into trouble and COVID is going to … probably help him defeat this thing in a landslide.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Rob Stutzman, Republican consultant","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Having persuaded prominent Democrats to stay out of the race to replace him, Newsom finished the campaign betting that the pandemic that fueled populist angst to take him down will also stimulate the support he needs to keep his job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One of the ironies of this recall is that COVID got him into trouble and COVID is going to, in the end, probably help him defeat this thing in a landslide,” said GOP consultant Rob Stutzman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Did Newsom’s strategy work? We’ll find out after polls close tonight at 8 p.m. It may take elections officials a few days to determine the results, depending on how close the race is. Here’s a look at the three possible scenarios:\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888552\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11888552 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Gov. Newsom throws a few small lottery balls into the air in front of the Universal Studios globe statue.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1701\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-800x532.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-1020x678.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-1536x1021.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-2048x1361.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1323741590-1920x1276.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gov. Gavin Newsom attends a press conference marking the official reopening of the state of California at Universal Studios Hollywood on June 15, 2021, in Universal City. At the press conference, Newsom also selected 10 state residents to receive $1.5 million each as part of the final cash prize drawing in the state’s Vax for the Win program. \u003ccite>(Alberto E. Rodriguez/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>\u003ca id=\"wins\">\u003c/a>Newsom defeats the election by a lot\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s effort to win reelection in 2022 kicks off as soon as the recall votes are tallied. If the governor beats back the recall by a double-digit margin — \u003ca href=\"https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/california-recall-polls/?cid=rrpromo\">as recent polls indicate is likely\u003c/a> — he could claim an authority that could empower him in at least two ways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>First, he could continue governing the final year of this term with the same priorities he’s had all along — for enacting progressive social policy and taking a relatively strict approach to managing the coronavirus pandemic. Second, he could coast toward the 2022 campaign without fear of a credible challenger from his own party.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11888162","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/RS51414_005_Oakland_ItzelDiazandFamily_09092021-qut-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>An overwhelming victory also could demonstrate to \u003ca href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/09/the-california-recall-could-be-a-road-map-for-democrats/620020/\">other Democrats on the ballot\u003c/a> next year that leaning into COVID vaccine mandates — and painting GOP resistance to them as a public health danger — is a successful strategy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a great thing when good public policy winds up with good politics,” said Ace Smith, Newsom’s longtime political strategist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stutzman agreed, saying that a big margin for Newsom would show that voters favor his strict approach on vaccines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“His team figured out that once a majority of voters were vaccinated, it becomes a popular idea to put forward policies that are in the best interest of those who are vaccinated,” said Stutzman, who worked on Arnold Schwarzenegger’s successful campaign in the 2003 recall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They figured it out before the White House did.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>President Biden \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-joe-biden-business-health-travel-a1670ffa08f1f2eab42c675d99f1d9ad\">required federal government employees to get vaccinated\u003c/a> days after Newsom’s first announcement. He then followed it up last week with a \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/09/us/politics/biden-vaccine-federal-workers.html\">broader mandate for employees at private companies\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even if Newsom pulls through by a large margin, a show of strength now does not guarantee long-term political success. Any ambitions Newsom may have to run for president will be shaped by a lot more than defeating this recall, said Democratic strategist Paul Maslin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What he does on a host of issues that are very difficult over the next year — or the next five years if he has a second term — will be much more important to how he is judged,” Maslin said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'If [Newsom] does win by a significant margin, it will reinforce [his] status … what it says about the rest of his career is unknowable.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Paul Maslin, Democratic strategist","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“Ultimately I don’t know that it will mean that much in the story of Gavin Newsom or California. It will be sort of a diversion that he had to respond to.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maslin, who worked on campaigns against the 2003 recall of former Gov. Gray Davis and for the failed recall of Republican former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, pointed to the example of Walker, who \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2012/06/05/154384654/live-blog-wisconsin-decides-governors-fate-in-recall-vote\">beat back a recall in 2012\u003c/a>, won reelection in 2014 and was seen as a strong contender for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Walker's \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/09/21/442313437/reports-scott-walker-ending-presidential-campaign\">presidential campaign flopped\u003c/a>. And then in 2018, he ran for reelection as governor — and lost.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Newsom was always going to be the huge favorite for reelection, and if he does win by a significant margin, it will reinforce that status,” Maslin said. “What it says about the rest of his career is unknowable.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888553\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11888553 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-scaled.jpg\" alt='Gov. Gavin Newsom stands at a podium with a stern look, a large lighted sign beyond him that says, \"Vote.\"' width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235242314-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gov. Gavin Newsom speaks during a campaign event with President Joe Biden at Long Beach City College in Long Beach on Sept. 13, 2021. “If [Newsom] limps out of this, there will be some blood in the water,” said Steve Maviglio, a Democratic political consultant. \u003ccite>(Brendan Smialowski/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>\u003ca id=\"little\">\u003c/a>Newsom survives by a little\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Defeating the recall by a narrow margin — \u003ca href=\"https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/sov/2018-general/sov/21-governor.pdf\">significantly less than his 24-percentage-point\u003c/a> win over Republican \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/projects/newsom-recall-candidates-john-cox/\">John Cox in 2018\u003c/a> — could weaken Newsom as he heads into reelection next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If he limps out of this, there will be some blood in the water,” said Steve Maviglio, a Democratic political consultant. “Another Democrat will think they could do better and they can take him on.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11888182","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/07/Capitol-1180x787-3-1020x680.jpeg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Republicans who backed the recall could claim a kind of victory from weakening the governor, even if they failed to throw him out of office. Some of them already are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’s spent $80 million, he’s in the fight of his life, he’s called in the president and the vice president,” said Anne Dunsmore, a recall campaign manager.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’s taking it seriously and he’s using a lot of resources to combat us … We’ve already won. We’ve made our point.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A narrow win would also likely trigger lawsuits over the validity of the election results. Conservative commentators have already begun saying, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/08/newsom-recall-election-fraud-myths/\">with no evidence\u003c/a>, that voter fraud \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/12/us/politics/gop-voter-fraud-california-recall.html\">will be to blame if Newsom\u003c/a> remains in office. Former President Donald Trump \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/LATSeema/status/1437461490232037380?s=20\">issued a statement\u003c/a> Monday calling the recall “another giant Election Scam.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elder has said he \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/08/politics/larry-elder-claims-california-recall/index.html\">plans to file lawsuits over election irregularities\u003c/a>. His website \u003ca href=\"https://stopcafraud.com/\">links to another site\u003c/a> that asks voters to sign a petition “demanding a special session of the California legislature to investigate and ameliorate the twisted results of this 2021 Recall Election of Governor Gavin Newsom.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom called Elder’s stance “an extension of the Big Lie” that Trump stoked about his loss last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The election hasn’t even happened and now they’re all fanning election fraud,” Newsom said Friday. “I encourage voters to come out in overwhelming numbers … So we can put all this nonsense to rest.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11888537\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11888537 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-scaled.jpg\" alt='Larry Elder stands near a podium sign that reads, \"Yes on Recall, The People v. Newsom.\"' width=\"2560\" height=\"1494\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-800x467.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-1020x595.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-160x93.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-1536x897.jpg 1536w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-2048x1196.jpg 2048w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/GettyImages-1235237923-1920x1121.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gubernatorial recall candidate Larry Elder looks on as he is introduced at an event in Monterey Park, California, on Sept. 13, 2021, the last day before the Sept. 14 recall election of California Gov. Gavin Newsom. \u003ccite>(Frederic J. BROWN/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>\u003ca id=\"loses\">\u003c/a>Newsom is removed from office\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>More recent polls have consistently indicated that it’s unlikely the recall will prevail. If voters do throw Newsom out of office, it will show\u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/09/newsom-recall-poll-campaign/\"> how difficult it is for pollsters to predict an unusual election\u003c/a> such as a gubernatorial recall, where it can be hard to measure how many voters will turn out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far, older and white voters are returning their ballots at a higher rate than other demographic groups, \u003ca href=\"https://www.politicaldata.com/2021-special-election-tracker/\">according to tabulations by Political Data Inc.\u003c/a> If the recall is successful, it may be because \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/projects/newsom-recall-young-voters/\">younger voters\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/projects/newsom-recall-latino-voters/\">Latino voters\u003c/a> — key blocs in the Democratic coalition — don’t cast ballots, or vote to recall Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11886134","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/08/GettyImages-2586310-1020x740.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>A successful recall would be a huge victory for the California GOP, which has been beleaguered and shrinking for many years. If Newsom is recalled, the new governor — most likely talk radio host Elder — would be sworn in by the end of October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though a Republican governor \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/08/newsom-recall-republicans-govern/\">would face many hurdles enacting new laws\u003c/a> because of the huge majority Democrats have in the Legislature, he could have the chance to make a significant political appointment, should Democratic U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who is 88, become unable to finish her term. Elder has said he would appoint a Republican to her seat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s why Democrat Christine Pelosi said that if Newsom is recalled, California lawmakers should immediately call a special session and change the rules for how political vacancies are filled in the Senate and state constitutional offices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, there are few limits on whom the governor can appoint to those positions. Pelosi, the daughter of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and an officer with the California Democratic Party, said the rules could be changed to require replacement by someone from the same party as the outgoing official.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The Legislature can do that,” she said. “And in my view they should.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every governor since 1960 has faced an attempted recall, but most efforts fell short of the signatures needed to qualify for the ballot. Would liberal activists try to recall a Republican winner of this recall?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s possible. But it seems unlikely, given the time involved in mounting a recall and the regularly scheduled gubernatorial election next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Timing wise, it doesn’t make sense,” Pelosi said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>And no matter what …\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Expect California lawmakers to begin working on possible changes to the recall process. Whether there will be bipartisan support for an overhaul is unclear. But Democratic leaders said they intend to start examining the recall rules later this year or early next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Coverage ","tag":"recall-election"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“We’ve heard that people want change, and we in the Legislature will take a look at that,” state Senate leader Toni Atkins told reporters on Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon echoed her view, saying the recall system “was set up a century ago. The extent to which it’s still valid in its current form … merits discussion.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Surveys have shown that California voters \u003ca href=\"https://www.igs.berkeley.edu/research/berkeley-igs-poll\">support changing the recall rules\u003c/a>. Potential changes could include a runoff if no replacement candidate receives a majority of the vote, making it harder for recalls to qualify for the ballot and limiting recalls to situations where a public official has broken the law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Such changes would require approval from voters. So any plan that lawmakers come up with would likely go on the ballot next year in the form of a statewide initiative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s right: Voting in the recall election ends this Tuesday. But recall rules may be on the ballot next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>CalMatters reporter Mikhail Zinshteyn contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11888513/heres-three-different-ways-the-recall-election-could-go","authors":["byline_news_11888513"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_29465","news_29905","news_176","news_16","news_29392","news_717","news_29678","news_21509","news_29647","news_386"],"affiliates":["news_18481"],"featImg":"news_11888528","label":"source_news_11888513"},"news_11888013":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11888013","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11888013","score":null,"sort":[1631322783000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"former-gov-gray-davis-recalls-explained-this-week-in-california-politics","title":"Former Gov. Gray Davis | Recalls Explained | This Week in California Politics","publishDate":1631322783,"format":"video","headTitle":"KQED Newsroom | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":7052,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cb>Former Gov. Gray Davis on California’s Recall Politics\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When it comes to the recall election, there's only one other Californian who \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">really \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">knows what Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom is going through right now: Gray Davis. In 2003, Davis, also a Democrat, had to contend with a budget deficit, an energy crisis and an action-hero movie-star challenger. Today, Newsom is facing his own challenges, from the pandemic to wildfires.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guests:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Former California Gov. Gray Davis\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>https://youtu.be/xY0F-oac9X8\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Recall Elections Explained\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Every California governor since 1960 — from Pat Brown to Ronald Reagan to Jerry Brown — has faced a recall attempt. But only two attempted ousters have successfully made it onto the ballot — a process that involves signature gathering, legislative approvals and millions of dollars in election expenditures. With design and animation by Kelly Heigert and Rebecca Kao, reporter Monica Lam explains the nuts and bolts of recall elections — including the current one. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>This Week in California Politics\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">National politicians are weighing in on California’s current political battles. Vice President Kamala Harris swung through her native Bay Area, while former President Barack Obama released a political ad in support of Gov. Gavin Newsom. The governor’s challengers are also stepping up their campaigns in the final days of the recall election as polling numbers suggest that Newsom may get to keep his job.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guests:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Scott Shafer, KQED senior editor of politics and government\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Marisa Lagos, KQED politics and government correspondent \u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Something Beautiful: Voting\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For this week's look at something beautiful, we take a look at democracy in action.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":null,"status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1642109083,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":8,"wordCount":276},"headData":{"title":"Former Gov. 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Today, Newsom is facing his own challenges, from the pandemic to wildfires.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guests:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Former California Gov. 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The governor’s challengers are also stepping up their campaigns in the final days of the recall election as polling numbers suggest that Newsom may get to keep his job.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guests:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Scott Shafer, KQED senior editor of politics and government\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Marisa Lagos, KQED politics and government correspondent \u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Something Beautiful: Voting\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For this week's look at something beautiful, we take a look at democracy in action.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11888013/former-gov-gray-davis-recalls-explained-this-week-in-california-politics","authors":["236"],"programs":["news_7052"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_65","news_29385","news_18538","news_29350","news_19905","news_1323","news_23394","news_16","news_29392","news_29890","news_20737","news_61","news_5973","news_27947","news_29889","news_20297","news_19177","news_29678","news_20562","news_28988","news_29397","news_21509","news_29647","news_163"],"featImg":"news_11888107","label":"news_7052"},"news_11881207":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11881207","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11881207","score":null,"sort":[1626530439000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"what-lessons-can-california-learn-from-its-energy-crisis-20-years-ago","title":"What Lessons Can California Learn From Its Energy Crisis 20 Years Ago?","publishDate":1626530439,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Wildfires. Heat waves. A massive energy utility emerging from bankruptcy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California's electric grid is under considerable strain, with energy operators facing mounting challenges in consistently keeping the lights on for millions of residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But this is hardly the first time the state has faced an energy predicament.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twenty years ago, in 2001, a recently deregulated California energy market suddenly found itself without enough juice to power the state. Rolling blackouts shut down businesses, PG&E filed for bankruptcy (the first time around), the state’s economy contracted and the administration of then-Gov. Gray Davis spiraled into crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Enter Enron Corporation, a Houston-based energy company whose brokers created an artificial electricity shortage by taking power plants offline, thereby raising prices by 800% or more. The firm ultimately unraveled when whistleblowers revealed that its managers were cooking the books, but not before the company wreaked havoc on energy markets, including in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Early this week, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101884358/20-years-after-enron-and-rolling-blackouts-what-have-we-learned\">KQED Forum guest host Lily Jamali\u003c/a> spoke to former government officials and a veteran journalist to gauge what the state may have learned from that tumultuous period.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Forum guests included:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Loretta Lynch\u003c/strong>, the former president of the California Public Utilities Commission\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Weissman\u003c/strong>, an energy expert at the UC Berkeley Goldman School of Public Policy, who directed the CPUC's initial investigation into the 2001 energy crisis\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rebecca Smith\u003c/strong>, a Wall Street Journal energy reporter, who was a Pulitzer Prize finalist for her coverage of the 2001 crisis\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gray Davis\u003c/strong>, the former governor of California\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The following interview has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What was the energy crisis like from where you sat? It's easy to see now what a calamity this was. But was the gravity of the problem clear to you in those early days?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gov. Gray Davis: \u003c/strong>That was the whole problem, we couldn't figure out what was creating the blackouts. So six months after I left office, a video was released where Enron ordered that the power serving the city of San Francisco would go down and there were traffic accidents, and computers didn't work and all kinds of problems ensued.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The reason that date is important, it was four days after a whole bunch of us met in Washington [D.C.] to see if there couldn't be some sort of settlement arrangement. And I had two Republicans and two Democrats and all five of us rejected the only proposal that Enron and the other energy providers suggested, which was to raise rates ... five to 10 times what used to be paid for electricity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And none of us wanted the ratepayers to bear that burden because the ratepayers were not pushing for energy deregulation. That was the energy company. So I suspected all along that Enron was up to no good. I never thought they would be ordering blackouts, but that's exactly what they did. And why did they do it? To drive up electricity prices.[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Loretta Lynch, former CPUC president\"]'We created an electricity market that has become a casino for the electricity traders. And we all pay and pay and pay. We have to shut down that casino or protect our people and our businesses.'[/pullquote]\u003cstrong>Rebecca Smith\u003c/strong>: I was actually worried about the California market from the moment it was deregulated. That happened, ironically, on April Fools Day in 1998. I was worried because I had watched the Legislature put together Assembly Bill 1890, which was the bill that deregulated California's retail market. And after that law was passed, I interviewed people about the contents. I went through it literally line by line to try to understand everything that was included in that bill. And what I discovered was that the number of people in the Legislature whom I felt could actually show that they had a full understanding of that law, you could count the number of people on one hand. And I found that very worrisome, even though the thing passed nearly unanimously.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>It sounds like you had a fairly clear view of just how dire the situation was, perhaps sooner than a lot of other players.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Loretta Lynch\u003c/strong>: That came from the private sector. I was a white-collar criminal defense lawyer before I joined the state government, so I knew a criminal when I saw one, and I knew that Enron was engaged in criminal activity. The question to me was, was it a criminal conspiracy? And it turned out, yes, it was. The problem is, the law that Rebecca Smith talked about almost let the criminals win. They designed the electricity market, which was brand new in the United States then. It was by them and they operated it. So not surprisingly, they got away with all sorts of fraud and it took government a really long time to catch up to them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The 16 years of Republicans before Gov. Davis was elected intentionally starved the regulatory agencies so that they would not be able to catch the crooks from 20 years ago, Enron and its cronies took advantage of California's new electricity markets to defraud those systems for profit. And that severely damaged California's economy and frankly, helped the historic recall. The political and economic fallout of their fraud was vast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Did you get the sense that there was corruption involved in this on the part of the state Legislature and on the part of regulators? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rebecca Smith\u003c/strong>: No, I would not say I felt there was corruption, I felt what we saw was what we always see, which is that well-heeled interests that have money and that have an economic stake in outcomes are the most active forces in crafting legislation and participating in rulemaking proceedings. I mean, they're the ones who have the time and the money to be active participants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside tag=\"energy\" label=\"Related coverage\"]So what we really need is to make sure that the organizations and agencies that are responsible for representing consumers, that they also receive the resources they need. We need the ratepayer advocate office of the U.S. and these other institutions to be well resourced. They have to be in the game. They have to be representing the rest of us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How can we prevent future blackouts?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Loretta Lynch: \u003c/b>Other Western states and other local government-owned utilities within California are not blacking their customers out and are not charging these exorbitant prices. This isn't about climate change — the blackouts — because they all face droughts, wildfires and too little water to run their hydro systems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The difference here is, California turned its electricity system over to a private corporation that answers to the feds. And we created an electricity market that has become a casino for the electricity traders. And we all pay and pay and pay. We have to shut down that casino or protect our people and our businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>I know from speaking with fire survivors in places like Paradise, in Sonoma County, they want nothing more than to not have to have PG&E provide their power. How realistic is it, this idea of decentralizing or having people kind of do their own thing? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Weissman\u003c/strong>: Well, as it happens, UC Irvine is now really on the cutting edge in terms of trying to develop its own internal reliability by creating what people refer to as a microgrid, which would have a lot of the features like renewable energy sources and storage and the ability to relate to the bigger grid, but to isolate when there's a problem on the bigger grid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's a difference in terms of what reliability means to different kinds of customers. And there is now, fully, the technological capability of having these microgrids not only serving something as holistic as one university campus, but serving broader communities, taking care of emergency services within a particular city, for instance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But we have a challenge in the state law, which was designed to protect the monopoly status of traditional utilities and doesn't allow for this kind of, what I'd call, a community-based microgrid system, to be installed without being encumbered with all the regulations that traditional utilities would have. And efforts to deal with this in the Legislature have been quashed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think there's a tremendous amount of concern, especially among the utility workers' representatives, that this would somehow lead to a loss of good union jobs. And I think that's not a necessary result.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in the meantime, the state is spending, through the energy commission, millions of dollars to promote various kinds of pilot examples of these microgrids. And I think there's no doubt that you could not only improve local reliability by having that kind of structure, but you also could improve the reliability of the broader grid by having many, many decentralized energy sources to work with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Listen to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101884358/20-years-after-enron-and-rolling-blackouts-what-have-we-learned\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">KQED Forum\u003c/a> to hear the full episode.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"What California can learn from its fiasco 20 years ago, when it suddenly found itself without enough energy to keep the lights on, prompting rolling blackouts.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1626484055,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":34,"wordCount":1515},"headData":{"title":"What Lessons Can California Learn From Its Energy Crisis 20 Years Ago? | KQED","description":"What California can learn from its fiasco 20 years ago, when it suddenly found itself without enough energy to keep the lights on, prompting rolling blackouts.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"What Lessons Can California Learn From Its Energy Crisis 20 Years Ago?","datePublished":"2021-07-17T14:00:39.000Z","dateModified":"2021-07-17T01:07:35.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"11881207 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11881207","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2021/07/17/what-lessons-can-california-learn-from-its-energy-crisis-20-years-ago/","disqusTitle":"What Lessons Can California Learn From Its Energy Crisis 20 Years Ago?","audioUrl":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/KQINC7779908653.mp3","path":"/news/11881207/what-lessons-can-california-learn-from-its-energy-crisis-20-years-ago","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Wildfires. Heat waves. A massive energy utility emerging from bankruptcy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California's electric grid is under considerable strain, with energy operators facing mounting challenges in consistently keeping the lights on for millions of residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But this is hardly the first time the state has faced an energy predicament.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twenty years ago, in 2001, a recently deregulated California energy market suddenly found itself without enough juice to power the state. Rolling blackouts shut down businesses, PG&E filed for bankruptcy (the first time around), the state’s economy contracted and the administration of then-Gov. Gray Davis spiraled into crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Enter Enron Corporation, a Houston-based energy company whose brokers created an artificial electricity shortage by taking power plants offline, thereby raising prices by 800% or more. The firm ultimately unraveled when whistleblowers revealed that its managers were cooking the books, but not before the company wreaked havoc on energy markets, including in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Early this week, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101884358/20-years-after-enron-and-rolling-blackouts-what-have-we-learned\">KQED Forum guest host Lily Jamali\u003c/a> spoke to former government officials and a veteran journalist to gauge what the state may have learned from that tumultuous period.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Forum guests included:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Loretta Lynch\u003c/strong>, the former president of the California Public Utilities Commission\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Weissman\u003c/strong>, an energy expert at the UC Berkeley Goldman School of Public Policy, who directed the CPUC's initial investigation into the 2001 energy crisis\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rebecca Smith\u003c/strong>, a Wall Street Journal energy reporter, who was a Pulitzer Prize finalist for her coverage of the 2001 crisis\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gray Davis\u003c/strong>, the former governor of California\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The following interview has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>What was the energy crisis like from where you sat? It's easy to see now what a calamity this was. But was the gravity of the problem clear to you in those early days?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gov. Gray Davis: \u003c/strong>That was the whole problem, we couldn't figure out what was creating the blackouts. So six months after I left office, a video was released where Enron ordered that the power serving the city of San Francisco would go down and there were traffic accidents, and computers didn't work and all kinds of problems ensued.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The reason that date is important, it was four days after a whole bunch of us met in Washington [D.C.] to see if there couldn't be some sort of settlement arrangement. And I had two Republicans and two Democrats and all five of us rejected the only proposal that Enron and the other energy providers suggested, which was to raise rates ... five to 10 times what used to be paid for electricity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And none of us wanted the ratepayers to bear that burden because the ratepayers were not pushing for energy deregulation. That was the energy company. So I suspected all along that Enron was up to no good. I never thought they would be ordering blackouts, but that's exactly what they did. And why did they do it? To drive up electricity prices.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'We created an electricity market that has become a casino for the electricity traders. And we all pay and pay and pay. We have to shut down that casino or protect our people and our businesses.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"medium","align":"right","citation":"Loretta Lynch, former CPUC president","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rebecca Smith\u003c/strong>: I was actually worried about the California market from the moment it was deregulated. That happened, ironically, on April Fools Day in 1998. I was worried because I had watched the Legislature put together Assembly Bill 1890, which was the bill that deregulated California's retail market. And after that law was passed, I interviewed people about the contents. I went through it literally line by line to try to understand everything that was included in that bill. And what I discovered was that the number of people in the Legislature whom I felt could actually show that they had a full understanding of that law, you could count the number of people on one hand. And I found that very worrisome, even though the thing passed nearly unanimously.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>It sounds like you had a fairly clear view of just how dire the situation was, perhaps sooner than a lot of other players.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Loretta Lynch\u003c/strong>: That came from the private sector. I was a white-collar criminal defense lawyer before I joined the state government, so I knew a criminal when I saw one, and I knew that Enron was engaged in criminal activity. The question to me was, was it a criminal conspiracy? And it turned out, yes, it was. The problem is, the law that Rebecca Smith talked about almost let the criminals win. They designed the electricity market, which was brand new in the United States then. It was by them and they operated it. So not surprisingly, they got away with all sorts of fraud and it took government a really long time to catch up to them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The 16 years of Republicans before Gov. Davis was elected intentionally starved the regulatory agencies so that they would not be able to catch the crooks from 20 years ago, Enron and its cronies took advantage of California's new electricity markets to defraud those systems for profit. And that severely damaged California's economy and frankly, helped the historic recall. The political and economic fallout of their fraud was vast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Did you get the sense that there was corruption involved in this on the part of the state Legislature and on the part of regulators? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rebecca Smith\u003c/strong>: No, I would not say I felt there was corruption, I felt what we saw was what we always see, which is that well-heeled interests that have money and that have an economic stake in outcomes are the most active forces in crafting legislation and participating in rulemaking proceedings. I mean, they're the ones who have the time and the money to be active participants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"energy","label":"Related coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>So what we really need is to make sure that the organizations and agencies that are responsible for representing consumers, that they also receive the resources they need. We need the ratepayer advocate office of the U.S. and these other institutions to be well resourced. They have to be in the game. They have to be representing the rest of us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>How can we prevent future blackouts?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Loretta Lynch: \u003c/b>Other Western states and other local government-owned utilities within California are not blacking their customers out and are not charging these exorbitant prices. This isn't about climate change — the blackouts — because they all face droughts, wildfires and too little water to run their hydro systems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The difference here is, California turned its electricity system over to a private corporation that answers to the feds. And we created an electricity market that has become a casino for the electricity traders. And we all pay and pay and pay. We have to shut down that casino or protect our people and our businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>I know from speaking with fire survivors in places like Paradise, in Sonoma County, they want nothing more than to not have to have PG&E provide their power. How realistic is it, this idea of decentralizing or having people kind of do their own thing? \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Weissman\u003c/strong>: Well, as it happens, UC Irvine is now really on the cutting edge in terms of trying to develop its own internal reliability by creating what people refer to as a microgrid, which would have a lot of the features like renewable energy sources and storage and the ability to relate to the bigger grid, but to isolate when there's a problem on the bigger grid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's a difference in terms of what reliability means to different kinds of customers. And there is now, fully, the technological capability of having these microgrids not only serving something as holistic as one university campus, but serving broader communities, taking care of emergency services within a particular city, for instance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But we have a challenge in the state law, which was designed to protect the monopoly status of traditional utilities and doesn't allow for this kind of, what I'd call, a community-based microgrid system, to be installed without being encumbered with all the regulations that traditional utilities would have. And efforts to deal with this in the Legislature have been quashed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think there's a tremendous amount of concern, especially among the utility workers' representatives, that this would somehow lead to a loss of good union jobs. And I think that's not a necessary result.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in the meantime, the state is spending, through the energy commission, millions of dollars to promote various kinds of pilot examples of these microgrids. And I think there's no doubt that you could not only improve local reliability by having that kind of structure, but you also could improve the reliability of the broader grid by having many, many decentralized energy sources to work with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Listen to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101884358/20-years-after-enron-and-rolling-blackouts-what-have-we-learned\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">KQED Forum\u003c/a> to hear the full episode.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11881207/what-lessons-can-california-learn-from-its-energy-crisis-20-years-ago","authors":["11690"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_21973","news_15","news_29392","news_1092","news_140"],"featImg":"news_11881165","label":"news"},"news_11873937":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11873937","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11873937","score":null,"sort":[1621288808000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"one-person-shaping-the-recall-election-lt-governor-kounalakis","title":"One Person Shaping the Recall Election? Lt. Gov. Kounalakis","publishDate":1621288808,"format":"standard","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>The job of lieutenant governor tends to be a low-profile office in California. But the campaign to recall Gov. Gavin Newsom will put current Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis front and center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At first glance, Kounalakis’ role seems pretty straightforward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She must set a date for an election within 60 to 80 days after the recall petition signatures are officially certified, which will happen in the fall. Kounalakis said she’s focusing on what’s best for voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think the general principle is that it should be a day that is relatively convenient for California voters,\" she said. \"To make sure they have ample time to consider the questions on the ballot and are able to get their ballot and send it in and make sure that their vote counts.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Brandon Stracener, senior research fellow, California Constitution Center\"]'We're not denying ballot access to any serious candidate, but perhaps there could be a consideration for not overwhelming the voters with a number of non-serious vanity candidates as well.'[/pullquote]And while she has a 20-day window to set the election, Kounalakis said the exact date shouldn't affect the process too much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To tell you the truth, it's hard for me to believe that 20 days, one way or another, really will make much of a difference,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Brandon Stracener, a senior research fellow at the California Constitution Center, a non-partisan academic research institution \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.berkeley.edu/research/california-constitution-center/\">based out of Berkeley Law\u003c/a>, said it actually might.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Setting the election further back in the 20-day window would give candidates more time to file papers needed to qualify for the ballot. That could result in a large number of candidates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label ='More Recall Coverage' tag='newsom-recall']That’s what happened in the 2003 recall when 135 candidates clogged up the ballot. The election was held on Oct. 7, 2003, which, according to an analysis co-written by Stracener, gave potential candidates \u003ca href=\"http://scocablog.com/two-state-officials-will-shape-the-recall-election/\">16 days to qualify\u003c/a> for the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stracener said, this time, he thinks the lieutenant governor will try to strike a balance when deciding when the election will be held.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We're not denying ballot access to any serious candidate, but perhaps there could be a consideration for not overwhelming the voters with a number of non-serious vanity candidates as well,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One person who won’t be a candidate — Kounalakis herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unlike her 2003 counterpart, Democratic \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11870960/should-a-democrat-run-in-the-newsom-recall-we-asked-cruz-bustamante\">Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante\u003c/a>, Kounalakis said she will not run. Bustamante ran as sort of an insurance policy to prevent Republicans from winning the office if then-Gov. Gray Davis was recalled — which he was.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger easily beat Bustamante.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Bustamante’s critics maintain his entrance in the race may have contributed to Davis’ defeat. Kounalakis said Democrats know better this time around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our insurance policy is that we all recognize that Gov. Newsom has been doing a very good job during an unprecedentedly difficult time,\" she said. \"Our insurance policy is let's vote no on the recall and make sure that Gov. Newsom can continue to do his job.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">California Democrats are banding together to fight against the Republican recall. Find out how to join us here: \u003ca href=\"https://t.co/RRwU7ZlVrk\">https://t.co/RRwU7ZlVrk\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Eleni Kounalakis (@EleniForCA) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/EleniForCA/status/1371499298521759747?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 15, 2021\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>On social media, Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis has expressed her strong support for Gov. Gavin Newsom and has labeled the recall effort as a Republican effort.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it appears Democratic voters feel differently about the issue than party leadership does. A recent UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll found \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11873005/statewide-poll-finds-good-news-for-newsom-bad-news-for-gop-opponents\">48% of registered Democrats\u003c/a> said they preferred having another Democrat on the ballot in case Newsom is recalled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, just because Kounalakis doesn’t plan to jump into the race, that doesn’t mean another Democrat won’t decide to, especially if Newsom looks vulnerable.\u003cbr>\n[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis will play a key role in determining how the recall election of Gov. Gavin Newsom will play out.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1621293080,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":21,"wordCount":669},"headData":{"title":"One Person Shaping the Recall Election? 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Kounalakis","source":"The California Report","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/californiareport","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-4[…]f-aaef00f5a073/57405e5a-04a7-427f-88f8-ad2b01151704/audio.mp3","path":"/news/11873937/one-person-shaping-the-recall-election-lt-governor-kounalakis","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The job of lieutenant governor tends to be a low-profile office in California. But the campaign to recall Gov. Gavin Newsom will put current Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis front and center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At first glance, Kounalakis’ role seems pretty straightforward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She must set a date for an election within 60 to 80 days after the recall petition signatures are officially certified, which will happen in the fall. Kounalakis said she’s focusing on what’s best for voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think the general principle is that it should be a day that is relatively convenient for California voters,\" she said. \"To make sure they have ample time to consider the questions on the ballot and are able to get their ballot and send it in and make sure that their vote counts.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'We're not denying ballot access to any serious candidate, but perhaps there could be a consideration for not overwhelming the voters with a number of non-serious vanity candidates as well.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Brandon Stracener, senior research fellow, California Constitution Center","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>And while she has a 20-day window to set the election, Kounalakis said the exact date shouldn't affect the process too much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To tell you the truth, it's hard for me to believe that 20 days, one way or another, really will make much of a difference,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Brandon Stracener, a senior research fellow at the California Constitution Center, a non-partisan academic research institution \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.berkeley.edu/research/california-constitution-center/\">based out of Berkeley Law\u003c/a>, said it actually might.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Setting the election further back in the 20-day window would give candidates more time to file papers needed to qualify for the ballot. That could result in a large number of candidates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"More Recall Coverage ","tag":"newsom-recall"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>That’s what happened in the 2003 recall when 135 candidates clogged up the ballot. The election was held on Oct. 7, 2003, which, according to an analysis co-written by Stracener, gave potential candidates \u003ca href=\"http://scocablog.com/two-state-officials-will-shape-the-recall-election/\">16 days to qualify\u003c/a> for the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stracener said, this time, he thinks the lieutenant governor will try to strike a balance when deciding when the election will be held.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We're not denying ballot access to any serious candidate, but perhaps there could be a consideration for not overwhelming the voters with a number of non-serious vanity candidates as well,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One person who won’t be a candidate — Kounalakis herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unlike her 2003 counterpart, Democratic \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11870960/should-a-democrat-run-in-the-newsom-recall-we-asked-cruz-bustamante\">Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante\u003c/a>, Kounalakis said she will not run. Bustamante ran as sort of an insurance policy to prevent Republicans from winning the office if then-Gov. Gray Davis was recalled — which he was.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger easily beat Bustamante.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Bustamante’s critics maintain his entrance in the race may have contributed to Davis’ defeat. Kounalakis said Democrats know better this time around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our insurance policy is that we all recognize that Gov. Newsom has been doing a very good job during an unprecedentedly difficult time,\" she said. \"Our insurance policy is let's vote no on the recall and make sure that Gov. Newsom can continue to do his job.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n\u003cp dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">California Democrats are banding together to fight against the Republican recall. Find out how to join us here: \u003ca href=\"https://t.co/RRwU7ZlVrk\">https://t.co/RRwU7ZlVrk\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>— Eleni Kounalakis (@EleniForCA) \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/EleniForCA/status/1371499298521759747?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 15, 2021\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>On social media, Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis has expressed her strong support for Gov. Gavin Newsom and has labeled the recall effort as a Republican effort.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it appears Democratic voters feel differently about the issue than party leadership does. A recent UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll found \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11873005/statewide-poll-finds-good-news-for-newsom-bad-news-for-gop-opponents\">48% of registered Democrats\u003c/a> said they preferred having another Democrat on the ballot in case Newsom is recalled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, just because Kounalakis doesn’t plan to jump into the race, that doesn’t mean another Democrat won’t decide to, especially if Newsom looks vulnerable.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11873937/one-person-shaping-the-recall-election-lt-governor-kounalakis","authors":["11200"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_20156","news_29480","news_23420","news_22683","news_16","news_29392","news_28988","news_17968","news_21509","news_20851"],"featImg":"news_11717140","label":"source_news_11873937"},"news_11870960":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11870960","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11870960","score":null,"sort":[1619468532000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"should-a-democrat-run-in-the-newsom-recall-we-asked-cruz-bustamante","title":"Should a Democrat Run in the Newsom Recall? We Asked Cruz Bustamante","publishDate":1619468532,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED News","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>With Gov. Gavin Newsom likely facing a recall election later this year, Democrats are hoping to learn from what some see as the hard lessons from 2003, when voters approved the recall of then-Gov. Gray Davis, replacing him with Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lesson number one: Make sure no credible Democrat runs as an alternate to Newsom on the ballot. So far, California Democrats have solidly lined up against the recall, which Newsom framed as a \"partisan power grab,\" with none indicating any clear intention of running. That's partly due to Newsom's relative political strength and the likelihood that anger over the pandemic — which has helped fuel the effort — will be largely forgotten by the time voters cast ballots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in 2003, with Davis' approval rating underwater and sinking fast, at least one Democrat saw the need – or opportunity – to run as a replacement candidate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At first, then-Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante said he \"absolutely, 100%\" would not run. But then he did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I’m here to tell everyone to vote 'No' on the recall and 'Yes' on Bustamante,\" he said at the time, before a bank of TV cameras.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garry South was Davis’ campaign consultant at the time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To say 'No' on the recall, 'Yes' on Bustamante was oxymoronic to the average voter. People didn't get what it meant. It was completely, utterly disingenuous,\" South said recently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But as Bustamante recently told KQED, he was trying to be a kind of insurance policy for Democrats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What tipped the scales was when Arnold announced,\" said Bustamante, who is now a political consultant. \"I decided to run in this race in order to protect the state against the kind of politics that I believe Arnold would bring to the state.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reflecting back on that decision, Bustamante insisted it had nothing to do with the frosty relationship he had with Davis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But South says Bustamante’s decision to renege on his promise and run was pure political opportunism and calculation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>South claims that months earlier, Bustamante had quietly asked the California Attorney General's Office if there would be a conflict with him, as lieutenant governor, running during the recall while also setting the date for the election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So all of his protestations about, you know, getting dragged into this thing with a public draft, 'Oh Cruz, you got to run, you got to run,' is all a bunch of crap. He was plotting to do this from the very beginning,\" South said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While some Democrats fumed when Bustamante entered the race, GOP consultant Sean Walsh says the Schwarzenegger team had a very different reaction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"High fives, low fives, toasts, tequila shots. Rum raisin ice cream: It was a party all the way around if you were a Republican,\" Walsh recalled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"recall\"]Walsh believes that the entrance of a major Democrat into the replacement race completely reshuffled the recall deck.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Once Cruz Bustamante made that decision to get into the race, it was like the breaking of the dam,\" Walsh said. \"All bets were off [because if] a Democrat thinks that Gray Davis isn't doing what he should be doing and he's the lieutenant governor, well, my goodness then there is something to be had here. ... And it opened up.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the time, Davis' approval ratings were historically low - in the 20s. So beating the recall was always going to be a tough climb.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But South says by jumping in, Bustamante caused even more problems for Davis. For one, it upended the message that the recall was a Republican plot, an effort to reverse results of an election that happened less than a year earlier. And some voters saw it as a kind of twofer — a way to replace the disliked Davis with the first Latino governor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So Arnold was clearly our biggest problem, but Bustamante was a close second,\" South said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bustamante — a Central Valley Democrat — had a hard time raising money and was no match for the star power of Schwarzenegger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I knew what the consequences would be. If I lost, it may shorten my career. And I made the decision to run despite that,\" Bustamante said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Looking back now, Bustamante describes his decision to run as \"selfless.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Frankly, I was taking one for the team,\" he said, meaning the Democratic Party.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But \"the team\" sure didn’t appreciate it. Not only was Davis recalled, but Bustamante finished with just 31% of the vote, far behind the winner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Three years later, Bustamante — who was still lieutenant governor — ran for state insurance commissioner, losing to a novice Republican, Steve Poizner. That made him the last incumbent Democrat to lose a statewide election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So if Bustamante had it to do over again, would he make the same choice?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We all make decisions in life, and if you know what the outcome is going to be and you can you still make that decision, then I have no regrets,\" Bustamante said. \"So whatever came after that, is it good or bad? It just is. I'm very at peace with all of that. I have no regrets.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To Democrats like Garry South, Bustamante was a big reason Davis lost. Not surprisingly, Bustamante views things differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think they were looking for someone to use as a scapegoat and they have for the last two decades said continuously that he lost because of my entering the race,\" Bustamante said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He’s not alone. Fernando Guerra, a political science professor at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles, says Davis' loss was due to bigger factors than his lieutenant governor being in the race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Guerra thinks now it's a mistake for Democrats to count on Newsom being popular enough to beat back the recall, which will likely be held in November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What happens if there are tremendous wildfires out of control and the state doesn't respond appropriately? What happens if the scandal with the Employment [Development] Department continues and gets even worse? What happens if there is another French Laundry moment? Given his career? He's very capable of doing that,\" Guerra said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By stopping Democrats from running, Guerra says, the party runs the risk of \"handing the governorship to a Republican.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That is political malpractice. The Democrats need to have a strategy and be prepared and coordinated,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eighteen years later, Bustamante dismisses the current recall against Gov. Newsom and does not think it's necessary for a Democrat to run. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This recall is improper and without merit,\" he said, adding that unlike Davis, “I think, frankly, that Newsom is going to win handily.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nonetheless, Newsom’s advisers are circling the wagons to make sure no other Democrat jumps into the race while his campaign focuses its fire on Republican challengers, including the latest entrant, Caitlyn Jenner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But at least one Democrat is rumored to be considering making a run — former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who declined to comment for this story.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Democrats are hoping to learn from what some see as the hard lessons from 2003, when voters approved the recall of then-Gov. 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That's partly due to Newsom's relative political strength and the likelihood that anger over the pandemic — which has helped fuel the effort — will be largely forgotten by the time voters cast ballots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in 2003, with Davis' approval rating underwater and sinking fast, at least one Democrat saw the need – or opportunity – to run as a replacement candidate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At first, then-Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante said he \"absolutely, 100%\" would not run. But then he did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I’m here to tell everyone to vote 'No' on the recall and 'Yes' on Bustamante,\" he said at the time, before a bank of TV cameras.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garry South was Davis’ campaign consultant at the time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"To say 'No' on the recall, 'Yes' on Bustamante was oxymoronic to the average voter. People didn't get what it meant. It was completely, utterly disingenuous,\" South said recently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But as Bustamante recently told KQED, he was trying to be a kind of insurance policy for Democrats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What tipped the scales was when Arnold announced,\" said Bustamante, who is now a political consultant. \"I decided to run in this race in order to protect the state against the kind of politics that I believe Arnold would bring to the state.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reflecting back on that decision, Bustamante insisted it had nothing to do with the frosty relationship he had with Davis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But South says Bustamante’s decision to renege on his promise and run was pure political opportunism and calculation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>South claims that months earlier, Bustamante had quietly asked the California Attorney General's Office if there would be a conflict with him, as lieutenant governor, running during the recall while also setting the date for the election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So all of his protestations about, you know, getting dragged into this thing with a public draft, 'Oh Cruz, you got to run, you got to run,' is all a bunch of crap. He was plotting to do this from the very beginning,\" South said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While some Democrats fumed when Bustamante entered the race, GOP consultant Sean Walsh says the Schwarzenegger team had a very different reaction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"High fives, low fives, toasts, tequila shots. Rum raisin ice cream: It was a party all the way around if you were a Republican,\" Walsh recalled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"recall"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Walsh believes that the entrance of a major Democrat into the replacement race completely reshuffled the recall deck.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Once Cruz Bustamante made that decision to get into the race, it was like the breaking of the dam,\" Walsh said. \"All bets were off [because if] a Democrat thinks that Gray Davis isn't doing what he should be doing and he's the lieutenant governor, well, my goodness then there is something to be had here. ... And it opened up.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the time, Davis' approval ratings were historically low - in the 20s. So beating the recall was always going to be a tough climb.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But South says by jumping in, Bustamante caused even more problems for Davis. For one, it upended the message that the recall was a Republican plot, an effort to reverse results of an election that happened less than a year earlier. And some voters saw it as a kind of twofer — a way to replace the disliked Davis with the first Latino governor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"So Arnold was clearly our biggest problem, but Bustamante was a close second,\" South said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bustamante — a Central Valley Democrat — had a hard time raising money and was no match for the star power of Schwarzenegger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I knew what the consequences would be. If I lost, it may shorten my career. And I made the decision to run despite that,\" Bustamante said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Looking back now, Bustamante describes his decision to run as \"selfless.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Frankly, I was taking one for the team,\" he said, meaning the Democratic Party.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But \"the team\" sure didn’t appreciate it. Not only was Davis recalled, but Bustamante finished with just 31% of the vote, far behind the winner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Three years later, Bustamante — who was still lieutenant governor — ran for state insurance commissioner, losing to a novice Republican, Steve Poizner. That made him the last incumbent Democrat to lose a statewide election.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So if Bustamante had it to do over again, would he make the same choice?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We all make decisions in life, and if you know what the outcome is going to be and you can you still make that decision, then I have no regrets,\" Bustamante said. \"So whatever came after that, is it good or bad? It just is. I'm very at peace with all of that. I have no regrets.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To Democrats like Garry South, Bustamante was a big reason Davis lost. Not surprisingly, Bustamante views things differently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think they were looking for someone to use as a scapegoat and they have for the last two decades said continuously that he lost because of my entering the race,\" Bustamante said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He’s not alone. Fernando Guerra, a political science professor at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles, says Davis' loss was due to bigger factors than his lieutenant governor being in the race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Guerra thinks now it's a mistake for Democrats to count on Newsom being popular enough to beat back the recall, which will likely be held in November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"What happens if there are tremendous wildfires out of control and the state doesn't respond appropriately? What happens if the scandal with the Employment [Development] Department continues and gets even worse? What happens if there is another French Laundry moment? Given his career? He's very capable of doing that,\" Guerra said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By stopping Democrats from running, Guerra says, the party runs the risk of \"handing the governorship to a Republican.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That is political malpractice. The Democrats need to have a strategy and be prepared and coordinated,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eighteen years later, Bustamante dismisses the current recall against Gov. 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