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I topped the ticket. And as you know, when you top the ticket, you’re president of the board, you get the most votes. You and this was city. This was the citywide. You get the most votes. And John Barbagelata, who came in number two.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Who was very conservative.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yes. Who wrote a Chronicle op-ed piece that I am untrained, I should turn it down and accept the second position. I thought that doesn’t make very good sense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Tell it that to you or just put it in the Chronicle?\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein: It was in writing. I thought it was a Chronicle. 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Because I tried to get a pulse in his wrist and put my finger in a bullet hole, and it was clear he was dead. And that changed the world.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: And I want to just ask you one thing, because you… There were reports that that day before that happened, you decided to give up politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> That’s true.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Yeah. So what made what brought you to that decision, which obviously events overtook that decision? But what what was it that made you think, you know, I’m not gonnna…?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> What I decided was I was not going to run for another term of the board, that that was that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Because?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, my husband had died. I remarried, I had a daughter, and I just thought enough was enough. It’s still very traumatic for me to look back on, candidly, because those assassinations were everything that was not supposed to happen. And I would give up anything if they had not happened. And once they happen, they impact everything. Everything you do, everything the city is, and the worry over the city, because of the hatred. You had the first openly gay public official killed by a former police officer and firefighter, who was sort of America’s all-American boy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Yeah, very handsome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yeah, and a beautiful wife and small child and really hard. Really hard. And anyway, I don’t often talk of this, so you have to put up with it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: No, we’re glad. I mean, I think this is it is a pivotal moment for you and your life and also, obviously San Francisco and talking to people who are around you. I mean, somebody pointed out to me that, you know, that day you saw political differences literally end in gunfire. And I’m curious if that, if you think that has sort of changed, or did change, your approach to governing and to politics. Because I think one thing we’ve heard in the campaign here and now is that you can be too collegial. I mean, is that.. Obviously there’s gun control and other sort of policy things that maybe came out of that, and some of the other events of that era. But did that affect the way you kind of want to approach people, regardless of their positions?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> No. I mean, I am the way I am. And I welcome collegiality and I welcome getting along and I share thoughts and ideas. And I don’t like the histrionics that have got into this, because… And then, well, the as you know, I became mayor and was mayor for, I guess, three terms. And the first two years were very hard. And then it kind of settled down. And we were able to put the bricks of the city back together again. That was a wonderful experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Was there a way in which you felt, like suddenly you were mayor… There had been a progressive mayor. The sort of the left, the progressives in San Francisco were so excited about Harvey Milk and George Moscone. Like, did that put you in an awkward position at all?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yes. And I’ll tell you why. I had run for mayor and I was defeated. And I was convinced I would never be mayor. And so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: And you did you lose to George Moscone?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: And you said we talked earlier that you said after that point that you were going to leave politics. I mean, did your losses impact that decision?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I think they did. I think they did. You know, when you’re young, things impact you differently than when you get a lot of seasoning, so to speak. And it really did impact me. As a matter of fact, the first thing that my husband and I, I mean, the last time I ran for mayor, my husband supported George.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: What?! [Dick Blum?]\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Over you? Oh, you weren’t married.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> LAUGH. No, we weren’t married. [That would’ve been a short marriage!] But he was a big Moscone supporter, and he headed his fiscal advisory committee. And subsequently, we met, after my husband died.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: And the rest is history.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> The rest is history.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: We’re going to take a short break. We are with U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein. When we get back, we will continue this conversation. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And welcome back to Political Breakdown. I’m Scott Shafer along with Marisa Lagos. We’re here with U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein. Before the break, we were talking about the terrible years when there were two assassinations in San Francisco. And there’s that iconic film, video of you, announcing to the world at City Hall. I think, seared in anybody’s mind who has seen it before. And I just wondering, when you think back to that moment, what were you what was going through your mind?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> What happens to me is everything else blocks out, except what I am doing and what I need to do. So it’s it’s a phenomenon, I can’t explain what happens, but… I can just perform. I can just keep going. And it’s not by will. I know that. But it happens that way. And I think over time, it’s served me in good stead, because when I’ve had setbacks and these assassinations, I mean, I wouldn’t trade anything for them. They’re terrible. You know, it’s just it’s awful what it does to family and spouses and the city and the trauma and the gay community. And this was the first openly gay public official in America. And I remember leaning over his body and getting a pulse and everybody else was gone. And I thought, oh, my God, how can this be? You know, this is San Francisco. How can this be? But it was.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: You can hear on that video, too, like the gasps of the reporters and just, you know, the shock of the city. I’m just curious. I mean, we are in such stratified times nationally. And I mentioned, you know, that was a very that event was clearly the center of a lot of, you know, kind of crazy things happening in San Francisco. There was Jonestown. There were other events. Do you worry now about sort of where we’re at nationally?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, I do worry where we’re at nationally. Because there’s what I’ve learned over time is people are fragile. They may not appear to be so, but certain things inside of them break, and they do things that they never thought they would ever do. And one of the things that you so need is a president that brings people together. The beauty of this nation is our diversity. We are many different people. We walk to the sound of different drummers. And what a president does is chart a course that is acceptable for everybody and in so doing, brings people together. And this is not happening. So I do worry about the country, because we are very diverse. We have many different people, many races, creeds, colors, backgrounds. What makes America great. But it also makes it vulnerable.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: We’ve, we had Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom on a few weeks ago, and we asked him this question. And I want to ask you as well. You know, everybody in public life has sort of an image, and sometimes the image is accurate and sometimes it doesn’t quite square with the reality or the way they think of themselves. And for you. You know, I think people see you as sort of, just to use a shorthand, Pacific Heights wealthy, somebody who’s sort of above everything. Somebody who has had a, you know, easy upbringing, all those things. When you think of that image of you, and when you hear people talk about you as that kind of person, like what’s missing from that characterization?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> You see, I’ve never heard that. And I didn’t have an easy upbringing, for reasons I’m not going to go into here. But it was not easy. And yes, I happened to marry a man who is is financially astute, let me say. But I never had a lot of money. And I worked all my life. And I think that was good for me. So I don’t consider myself a Pacific Heights matron, whatever that is. I mean, I was at work every day, at some job. And so people, I think, rush to mischaracterize. And I would say, you have to take into consideration my real history, which is my everyday history of what I do with my life and how I try to help, and what I do with people, and the kind of bills we put forward, and the successes when we have them and the failures when we have.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: I mean, one thing that struck me looking at your biography is that you were a single mother in the late 1950s, early 1960s, before marrying your second husband. And and and then later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> I was married.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Right but you became a single mother when you divorced.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> That’s correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Which could not have been easy at that time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: And you eloped right? You got married young. [LAUGH] Eye roll!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> That tells you something.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Well, but I want to kind of fast forward. When you decided to run for Senate in 1992, and this was the time of the Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill Hillary hearings, I’ve heard you speak about seeing her testify and and how that impacted you. I mean, can you talk about that and how maybe being a single mother earlier, and being a trailblazer, as we’ve discussed, impacted that decision to run in what became the Year of the Woman. But you probably didn’t know that when you started when you decided to file your papers.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> No, I didn’t. I had been serving on the California Women’s Board of Terms and Parole and that I did it for six years. I sat on some 5,000 cases of women convicted of felonies in state prison and set sentences. We ran a parole division at that time. I was 28 years old. And then obviously, I went on to other things. But what is the question you want to answer about me?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Why in that moment did you decide to run for Senate? And what did you sort of bring with you having being a woman at that time and being part of this huge class of women running, but, you know, not knowing how it was going to turn out?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: You had just run for governor.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yes. Well, that’s the I think that’s the point. I had run for governor. I missed it by two and a half percent. But I had a big constituency. So there was a lot of encouragement to not throw it all away, but to use it. And we did run for Senate. And I was very pleased to represent the state.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: And did it surprise you that two Jewish women from the Bay Area, you and Barbara Boxer, both got elected?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Not really.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Really?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Not really. You know, it’s like would you say, would you be surprised if two Catholics from the Bay Area got elected? Well, I don’t think so. I mean, it just it happens.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: I just want to remind everyone that you’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio. I’m Marissa Lagos. We’re here today with California’s U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein. I should add that we had Feinstein’s opponent for the Senate, Kevin De Leon, on on the Breakdown. You can check that episode out at KQED.org/politicalbreakdown. I think we do want to talk about your time in the Senate a little bit. You know, you sit on the Judiciary Committee. You have been very involved in the Senate Intelligence Committee. And I want to ask you about your relationship with the intelligence community, because it seems like it has changed over time. You told Mother Jones a few years ago that your decision to vote for the second Iraq war was ‘the decision I most regret,’ and that it was based on believing the CIA. [Still true.] Yeah. Did that, I don’t know, shake your belief in some of these institutions that you had really been close to for a long time?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Oh, it made me very circumspect, which is helpful. And I subsequently became chairman of the committee for a period of time. And as a matter of fact, we did a 32,000 page report on torture and CIA use of torture.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Which you released over the objections of a president.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> No, we did never release the full report. [Yeah.] We were able to release a 500 page summary which has been sold in bookstores, as a matter of fact. And I, President Obama put it in his special library. So in 12 years, from the time he put it in, it will then be declassified. The whole big report. But it pretty much documents what happened and everything is, it has 7000 footnotes to it. And no one has corrected anything in the summary. Well, CIA has corrected a few things which we’ve corrected, and where we didn’t accept the correction, we run in the footnotes what they say.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: I wonder if, you know, you have, over the course of your time in the Senate, developed a reputation and you’ve cultivated a bipartisan sort of collegial relationship with people on the other side of the aisle. Many times you’ve co-sponsored legislation and that sort of trade has kind of been criticized by your opponent in this race, Kevin de Leon.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, by my opponent. But that’s his view, and that’s what it is. It’s not the way the Senate works. And the Senate works the way it has worked for a couple of hundred years. So it’s difficult. And I find that if I can talk to people and work with people, it makes it much easier to get something done. For example, it took me three years and 28 drafts to draft the water bill, which is called the WIN Act. And I then went over and I negotiated it with the Speaker of the House, who is a Republican, and that’s how we got it done. And then it went into an omnibus and it was passed. Never would have got it done otherwise. Now I have to begin and to draft another bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: But I guess there are some people who say, well, you know what? That era is over. Well, you know, we can’t.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> What era is over? Getting things done?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Well, yeah, maybe. I mean, if you look at, for example, the Senate Judiciary Committee, I mean, you’ve tried to work very carefully with Chuck Grassley, who chairs the committee. And they’re all these things are happening over objections of Democrats. I mean, where’s the compromise, say, on that committee?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, it all depends upon what it is. Yes, I worked with the chairman, believe it or not, over a very difficult nominee, Kavanaugh. I think we had some moments, but that happens to everybody in any kind of work or job. You have your moment and you put it together. I’m the lead Democrat. Right now I’m trying to draft a big immigration bill. It’s been five, seven years since we had the last bill. We worked on it and worked on it and had hearings on it. And it came out on the floor. We passed it and the House didn’t take it up. So there’s a big learning lesson in that for me, and I want to see if I can do it. Can I write a bill which I can also get through the House? And can that bill… And one of the things is, you know, the president said that he was going to have a policy of separating children from parents at the border.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: He did have a policy.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> And we want to make that illegal by law. We want to protect small children. And we the DACA students. There are 700,000 of them. And getting their parents a work permit and getting them legitimized in this country. So there are a lot of things we can do as part of an immigration bill.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: But it seems I mean, but we have been stuck without an immigration compromise for years. Just a few weeks ago, we saw Democrats leave town. There was an agreement to confirm 15 judges fast track them, under the, you know, agreement that there wouldn’t be any more justices pushed through the committee until after the election. And you guys left town and the Republicans did it anyway. I mean.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, I had the debate schedule. That was.\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos: Right. But isn’t that I mean, doesn’t that speak to the breaking down of the bipartisanship that you’re talking about?\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein: I’ll be very frank with you. This surprised me, that he would do that. However, if I think about it, this president is engaged in a conscious stacking of the federal court system of the United States of America. And so they are just pushing judges through now. Well, what happened was the hearing, it wasn’t the vote. And we all nonetheless do our work. We study the individual. We look at at that individual’s record. We know whether we can or cannot vote for them. And so we will be there for the vote. This was a surprise. I had never seen that done before.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: There are some in your party, and I think you could say the junior senator from California might be among them, you know, who feel like they have to take a harder line. I mean, Kamala Harris on the Judiciary Committee came out against Brett Kavanaugh from the get go, I think before she even met with them or certainly before there was a hearing. Do you think that’s a mistake?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> No. It’s her… If she wants to do that, she’s free to do it. I’ve always had a policy that until we get through the hearing, I never announce a decision. Otherwise, why I hold the hearing. And that’s my view of it. You know, Kamala, Kamala is going to be very good. There’s no question about that. And it’s wonderful for me, because I can be a friend. But we are also different in how we look at things. Everyone is. And we probably write differently.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: I wonder if, you know, if you feel like that style is not conducive to really building the kind of bridges.\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein: That’s nonsense. The Senate takes all kinds of styles. I don’t know what this style business suddenly is here. Now I get things done. I get bills passed.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: And so you believe the Senate can work?\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein: Oh, yeah, absolutely. And I do different things. I’m on different committees. We do share one committee. We share Judiciary. And I can learn from her. She’s the newcomer.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: What have you learned from her?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> [CROSSTALK] Oh, what I’ve learned. I mean, she’s very smart. She’s been a prosecutor. You see that in her questioning. And it’s very interesting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> It’s not your style.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> No. It’s not a question of style. It really isn’t. I get the feeling you’re trying to push me into some mode that I’m really not in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: I want to ask you one question because you mentioned being the first woman on the judiciary, and we opened this by asking you about the trailblazing you’ve done. And I’m curious, you know, when we had Minority Leader Pelosi in her, she talked about the responsibilities she feels to be a woman at the table to to be to be there, really. And I just wonder if you feel that if that is part of the reason you still want to do this job for another six years?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> No, it’s not just because I’m a woman. It’s because I think I do it well. And I’ve got a great staff and I work them very hard. And we have a level of excellence. And I think that’s important to get a bill as good as I can get it to work with people, to bring in other people’s views, to solve problems, to be able to pick up the phone and someone will take the call and hopefully say, yes, that’s really what this is about. It’s about getting things done for people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: All right, Senator Feinstein, thank you so much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Oh, you’re so welcome. Thank you. Thank you, Scott. Thank you, Marisa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: That is going to do it for this edition of Political Breakdown, a production of KQED Public Radio. Just a reminder, you can find that interview with Senator Feinstein’s opponent, Kevin de Leon, in our archives, along with a whole host of other shows you should totally go listen to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Absolutely. You can check out all of our elections coverage. We’re calling at our voter guide. There’s a whole lot more than that as well. Just go to KQED.org/elections. By the way, we also have a newsletter. You can subscribe to that at KQED.org/politicalbreakdown and wake up every Tuesday morning with us in your mailbox.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Just in your mailbox. Not your apartment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Or inbox, one or the other. Yeah, right.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Our producer is Guy Marzorati. Our engineers are Katie McMurran and Ceil Muller.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Ethan Lindsey is our executive editor. Holly Kernan is our chief content officer. I’m Scott Shafer. You can follow me on Twitter. I’m at Scott Shafer.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: And I’m Marisa Lagos. You can find me at MLagos. That is a wrap for this week’s Political Breakdown from KQED. We’ll see you next time.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Bye bye.\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: We really appreciate you being here. And we want to talk about really a remarkable life you’ve had. But one thing that struck me is as we went through and were reading about your history is really what a trailblazer you’ve been as a woman. I mean, you went to Stanford in the 1950s. You were elected to the Board of Supervisors in, I believe, 1969. I guess I’m just curious if you could kind of put in context how that life that you’ve lived has shaped your worldview and how you carry that with you, as times have changed dramatically for women in the U.S. in some ways, and in other ways they haven’t.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, there’s an interesting thing, because I think it goes back to my childhood. I was the oldest of three daughters, and so a number of responsibilities fell on me. And I got used to responsibility very early: before school, after school. And I grew to enjoy it, strangely enough. And then at Stanford, I took a course in American political thought, and the final was all composition. And I wrote my heart out and I got an A-plus. And I thought that said something to me about my ability to cope in this arena. And then I did a year’s graduate work with the Coro Foundation, which is indigenous to this area, and did a preliminary masterplan for the city of South San Francisco, was assigned to two labor unions, the DA’s office. We did a big report on the post-conviction phases in the administration of criminal justice. And then Pat Brown appointed me to the California Women’s Board of Terms and Parole. So I got a good dose of criminal justice and what was happening. I then went and ran for the board.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Well, let’s let me stop you there, because we want to get to that. I want to get to that. But I want to ask you about the things you just talked about. So as Marisa said, you were, there were probably not a lot of women at Stanford at that time. I know Sandra Day O’Connor was there. [Yes.] Roughly around that time and talked about how hard it was for her after graduating law school to even get an interview, much less a job. But how did those years affect your thinking? I mean, being a woman, being subjected to, you know, the barriers that men didn’t face in those times?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, that’s right. And I ran into pretty much the same thing that the justice ran into. As a matter of fact, I was just thinking about that today. And I was very often not hired, and not very often, maybe two or three times. That was very often.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And you think that’s because you’re a woman?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I do think, because I think my grades were certainly good enough. And in any event, at the time, the League of Women Voters was very active. I was somewhat active in it. I began to get active in community groups and I found that this is really what I wanted to do. And so I ran for the Board of Supervisors and was very lucky. This is a cute story. I topped the ticket. And as you know, when you top the ticket, you’re president of the board, you get the most votes. You and this was city. This was the citywide. You get the most votes. And John Barbagelata, who came in number two.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Who was very conservative.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yes. Who wrote a Chronicle op-ed piece that I am untrained, I should turn it down and accept the second position. I thought that doesn’t make very good sense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Tell it that to you or just put it in the Chronicle?\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein: It was in writing. I thought it was a Chronicle. I hope I’m right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: But he didn’t have…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Long time ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: He didn’t come talk to you about it? [No.] Oh, interesting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> And in any event, I got seasoned pretty quickly and went on and served nine years on the board was three times The president of the boar. Happened to been there on that terrible day, November 22nd, which is upcoming. When Harvey Milk walked by the office and I said, ‘Harvey,’ no, excuse me. When Dan White walked by the office, it was my first day back. My husband and I had gone on a vacation and just came back and uh, Harvey didn’t, Dan didn’t stop. And I heard the door slam and I heard the shots and everybody was gone. And I remember this so well. And it’s still traumati. Because I tried to get a pulse in his wrist and put my finger in a bullet hole, and it was clear he was dead. And that changed the world.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: And I want to just ask you one thing, because you… There were reports that that day before that happened, you decided to give up politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> That’s true.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Yeah. So what made what brought you to that decision, which obviously events overtook that decision? But what what was it that made you think, you know, I’m not gonnna…?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> What I decided was I was not going to run for another term of the board, that that was that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Because?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, my husband had died. I remarried, I had a daughter, and I just thought enough was enough. It’s still very traumatic for me to look back on, candidly, because those assassinations were everything that was not supposed to happen. And I would give up anything if they had not happened. And once they happen, they impact everything. Everything you do, everything the city is, and the worry over the city, because of the hatred. You had the first openly gay public official killed by a former police officer and firefighter, who was sort of America’s all-American boy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Yeah, very handsome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yeah, and a beautiful wife and small child and really hard. Really hard. And anyway, I don’t often talk of this, so you have to put up with it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: No, we’re glad. I mean, I think this is it is a pivotal moment for you and your life and also, obviously San Francisco and talking to people who are around you. I mean, somebody pointed out to me that, you know, that day you saw political differences literally end in gunfire. And I’m curious if that, if you think that has sort of changed, or did change, your approach to governing and to politics. Because I think one thing we’ve heard in the campaign here and now is that you can be too collegial. I mean, is that.. Obviously there’s gun control and other sort of policy things that maybe came out of that, and some of the other events of that era. But did that affect the way you kind of want to approach people, regardless of their positions?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> No. I mean, I am the way I am. And I welcome collegiality and I welcome getting along and I share thoughts and ideas. And I don’t like the histrionics that have got into this, because… And then, well, the as you know, I became mayor and was mayor for, I guess, three terms. And the first two years were very hard. And then it kind of settled down. And we were able to put the bricks of the city back together again. That was a wonderful experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Was there a way in which you felt, like suddenly you were mayor… There had been a progressive mayor. The sort of the left, the progressives in San Francisco were so excited about Harvey Milk and George Moscone. Like, did that put you in an awkward position at all?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yes. And I’ll tell you why. I had run for mayor and I was defeated. And I was convinced I would never be mayor. And so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: And you did you lose to George Moscone?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: And you said we talked earlier that you said after that point that you were going to leave politics. I mean, did your losses impact that decision?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I think they did. I think they did. You know, when you’re young, things impact you differently than when you get a lot of seasoning, so to speak. And it really did impact me. As a matter of fact, the first thing that my husband and I, I mean, the last time I ran for mayor, my husband supported George.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: What?! [Dick Blum?]\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Over you? Oh, you weren’t married.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> LAUGH. No, we weren’t married. [That would’ve been a short marriage!] But he was a big Moscone supporter, and he headed his fiscal advisory committee. And subsequently, we met, after my husband died.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: And the rest is history.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> The rest is history.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: We’re going to take a short break. We are with U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein. When we get back, we will continue this conversation. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And welcome back to Political Breakdown. I’m Scott Shafer along with Marisa Lagos. We’re here with U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein. Before the break, we were talking about the terrible years when there were two assassinations in San Francisco. And there’s that iconic film, video of you, announcing to the world at City Hall. I think, seared in anybody’s mind who has seen it before. And I just wondering, when you think back to that moment, what were you what was going through your mind?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> What happens to me is everything else blocks out, except what I am doing and what I need to do. So it’s it’s a phenomenon, I can’t explain what happens, but… I can just perform. I can just keep going. And it’s not by will. I know that. But it happens that way. And I think over time, it’s served me in good stead, because when I’ve had setbacks and these assassinations, I mean, I wouldn’t trade anything for them. They’re terrible. You know, it’s just it’s awful what it does to family and spouses and the city and the trauma and the gay community. And this was the first openly gay public official in America. And I remember leaning over his body and getting a pulse and everybody else was gone. And I thought, oh, my God, how can this be? You know, this is San Francisco. How can this be? But it was.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: You can hear on that video, too, like the gasps of the reporters and just, you know, the shock of the city. I’m just curious. I mean, we are in such stratified times nationally. And I mentioned, you know, that was a very that event was clearly the center of a lot of, you know, kind of crazy things happening in San Francisco. There was Jonestown. There were other events. Do you worry now about sort of where we’re at nationally?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, I do worry where we’re at nationally. Because there’s what I’ve learned over time is people are fragile. They may not appear to be so, but certain things inside of them break, and they do things that they never thought they would ever do. And one of the things that you so need is a president that brings people together. The beauty of this nation is our diversity. We are many different people. We walk to the sound of different drummers. And what a president does is chart a course that is acceptable for everybody and in so doing, brings people together. And this is not happening. So I do worry about the country, because we are very diverse. We have many different people, many races, creeds, colors, backgrounds. What makes America great. But it also makes it vulnerable.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: We’ve, we had Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom on a few weeks ago, and we asked him this question. And I want to ask you as well. You know, everybody in public life has sort of an image, and sometimes the image is accurate and sometimes it doesn’t quite square with the reality or the way they think of themselves. And for you. You know, I think people see you as sort of, just to use a shorthand, Pacific Heights wealthy, somebody who’s sort of above everything. Somebody who has had a, you know, easy upbringing, all those things. When you think of that image of you, and when you hear people talk about you as that kind of person, like what’s missing from that characterization?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> You see, I’ve never heard that. And I didn’t have an easy upbringing, for reasons I’m not going to go into here. But it was not easy. And yes, I happened to marry a man who is is financially astute, let me say. But I never had a lot of money. And I worked all my life. And I think that was good for me. So I don’t consider myself a Pacific Heights matron, whatever that is. I mean, I was at work every day, at some job. And so people, I think, rush to mischaracterize. And I would say, you have to take into consideration my real history, which is my everyday history of what I do with my life and how I try to help, and what I do with people, and the kind of bills we put forward, and the successes when we have them and the failures when we have.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: I mean, one thing that struck me looking at your biography is that you were a single mother in the late 1950s, early 1960s, before marrying your second husband. And and and then later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> I was married.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Right but you became a single mother when you divorced.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> That’s correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Which could not have been easy at that time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: And you eloped right? You got married young. [LAUGH] Eye roll!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> That tells you something.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Well, but I want to kind of fast forward. When you decided to run for Senate in 1992, and this was the time of the Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill Hillary hearings, I’ve heard you speak about seeing her testify and and how that impacted you. I mean, can you talk about that and how maybe being a single mother earlier, and being a trailblazer, as we’ve discussed, impacted that decision to run in what became the Year of the Woman. But you probably didn’t know that when you started when you decided to file your papers.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> No, I didn’t. I had been serving on the California Women’s Board of Terms and Parole and that I did it for six years. I sat on some 5,000 cases of women convicted of felonies in state prison and set sentences. We ran a parole division at that time. I was 28 years old. And then obviously, I went on to other things. But what is the question you want to answer about me?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Why in that moment did you decide to run for Senate? And what did you sort of bring with you having being a woman at that time and being part of this huge class of women running, but, you know, not knowing how it was going to turn out?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: You had just run for governor.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Yes. Well, that’s the I think that’s the point. I had run for governor. I missed it by two and a half percent. But I had a big constituency. So there was a lot of encouragement to not throw it all away, but to use it. And we did run for Senate. And I was very pleased to represent the state.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: And did it surprise you that two Jewish women from the Bay Area, you and Barbara Boxer, both got elected?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Not really.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Really?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Not really. You know, it’s like would you say, would you be surprised if two Catholics from the Bay Area got elected? Well, I don’t think so. I mean, it just it happens.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: I just want to remind everyone that you’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio. I’m Marissa Lagos. We’re here today with California’s U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein. I should add that we had Feinstein’s opponent for the Senate, Kevin De Leon, on on the Breakdown. You can check that episode out at KQED.org/politicalbreakdown. I think we do want to talk about your time in the Senate a little bit. You know, you sit on the Judiciary Committee. You have been very involved in the Senate Intelligence Committee. And I want to ask you about your relationship with the intelligence community, because it seems like it has changed over time. You told Mother Jones a few years ago that your decision to vote for the second Iraq war was ‘the decision I most regret,’ and that it was based on believing the CIA. [Still true.] Yeah. Did that, I don’t know, shake your belief in some of these institutions that you had really been close to for a long time?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Oh, it made me very circumspect, which is helpful. And I subsequently became chairman of the committee for a period of time. And as a matter of fact, we did a 32,000 page report on torture and CIA use of torture.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nMarisa Lagos\u003c/strong>: Which you released over the objections of a president.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> No, we did never release the full report. [Yeah.] We were able to release a 500 page summary which has been sold in bookstores, as a matter of fact. And I, President Obama put it in his special library. So in 12 years, from the time he put it in, it will then be declassified. The whole big report. But it pretty much documents what happened and everything is, it has 7000 footnotes to it. And no one has corrected anything in the summary. Well, CIA has corrected a few things which we’ve corrected, and where we didn’t accept the correction, we run in the footnotes what they say.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: I wonder if, you know, you have, over the course of your time in the Senate, developed a reputation and you’ve cultivated a bipartisan sort of collegial relationship with people on the other side of the aisle. Many times you’ve co-sponsored legislation and that sort of trade has kind of been criticized by your opponent in this race, Kevin de Leon.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, by my opponent. But that’s his view, and that’s what it is. It’s not the way the Senate works. And the Senate works the way it has worked for a couple of hundred years. So it’s difficult. And I find that if I can talk to people and work with people, it makes it much easier to get something done. For example, it took me three years and 28 drafts to draft the water bill, which is called the WIN Act. And I then went over and I negotiated it with the Speaker of the House, who is a Republican, and that’s how we got it done. And then it went into an omnibus and it was passed. Never would have got it done otherwise. Now I have to begin and to draft another bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: But I guess there are some people who say, well, you know what? That era is over. Well, you know, we can’t.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nDianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> What era is over? Getting things done?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\nScott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Well, yeah, maybe. I mean, if you look at, for example, the Senate Judiciary Committee, I mean, you’ve tried to work very carefully with Chuck Grassley, who chairs the committee. And they’re all these things are happening over objections of Democrats. I mean, where’s the compromise, say, on that committee?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dianne Feinstein:\u003c/strong> Well, it all depends upon what it is. Yes, I worked with the chairman, believe it or not, over a very difficult nominee, Kavanaugh. I think we had some moments, but that happens to everybody in any kind of work or job. You have your moment and you put it together. I’m the lead Democrat. Right now I’m trying to draft a big immigration bill. It’s been five, seven years since we had the last bill. We worked on it and worked on it and had hearings on it. And it came out on the floor. We passed it and the House didn’t take it up. So there’s a big learning lesson in that for me, and I want to see if I can do it. Can I write a bill which I can also get through the House? 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"content": "\u003cp>California's senior senator, Dianne Feinstein, has been in Washington, D.C., for 26 years. A Democrat, Feinstein prides herself on her ability to reach across the aisle and work collaboratively with Republicans. She has respect for tradition and comity. And she's the second-most-senior Senate Democrat in the Capitol.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To her supporters, Feinstein's longevity and experience is proof of her value to California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But backers of her Democratic challenger, state Sen. 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You're not the new kid in town.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of those factors were on full display during the recent confirmation hearings of Brett Kavanaugh. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein, as ranking member of the powerful Senate Judiciary Committee, literally had a seat at the center of the table, next to chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa. She was the first Democrat to ask the nominee questions, and she was the Democrat most likely to have Grassley's ear when it came to procedural questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Feinstein was also in the hot seat as one after another, Republicans attacked her for waiting so long to make public the accusations of sexual assault against Kavanaugh by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford. By holding onto the letter she received from Ford for so long, Feinstein handed Trump and the Republicans an important talking point they used over and over — that the whole affair was politically motivated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Feinstein's position as the ranking member didn’t change the hearing's outcome. Kavanaugh was confirmed, and she couldn’t do much about it as a member of the minority party.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11694637/kavanaugh-confirmation-process-spills-into-california-senate-race\">Kavanaugh Confirmation Process Spills Into California Senate Race\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11694637/kavanaugh-confirmation-process-spills-into-california-senate-race\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/FeinsteinDeLeon-1180x670.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\"Seniority isn't the end all and be all for developing power in the Senate,\" said UC San Diego political science professor Thad Kousser. \"What seniority gets you is your rank on a committee ... but we saw the limits of that power in the Kavanaugh hearings. (Feinstein) was able to put things on the agenda in an important way, but really at the end of the day, she wasn't able to control how the hearing went.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, that calculation could change overnight if Democrats regain control of the Senate next month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Josh Huder, a senior fellow at the Government Affairs Institute at Georgetown University, said that the \"biggest advantage that seniority gives a senator is their position on various committees.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, he said, if Democrats win and Feinstein is suddenly chair of the Judiciary Committee, she'd have an enormous amount of power — overseeing judicial appointments and the Justice Department, and by extension, the Mueller investigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's a major, major position if she were to hold the chairmanship of that particular committee,\" Huder said. \"All of a sudden she has enormous leverage to give or take away things that the (Trump) administration would want.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marc Sandalow — who covered Feinstein for three decades as a journalist and is now academic associate director of the University of California's Washington program — agreed, saying that if Democrats are back in the majority, Feinstein suddenly would be among the most powerful people in Washington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Huder and Duffy also noted that in another arena — legislation — Democrats hold power even as the minority party because Republicans have such a slim majority and in the Senate, you often need 60 votes to get legislation off the floor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Republicans would argue they can't get much done either right now,\" said Duffy. \"No party has a real working majority until they get to about 57 seats.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Huder agreed, adding that \"this is another spot where Dianne Feinstein has a ton of leverage.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11620276\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/10/RS24761_20170324_SenatorKevindeLeon_Credit_BertJohnson-1-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"State Sen. 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Kevin de León. \u003ccite>(Bert Johnson/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Much of the case de León has been making against Feinstein focuses on stylistic, not policy, differences. The irony, said Sandalow, is that many of the qualities that have made Feinstein successful in Washington — her collegiality and willingness to work across the aisle — are now giving her opponent fodder to attack her back home, where Democrats are fired up and want to see their representatives pushing back against the Trump administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"She's more politically moderate than a lot of Democrats in California,\" Sandalow said. \"She's not a bomb thrower.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Those qualities can frustrate people who want people to fight back against the president and fight back against conservatives,\" he said. \"When you're in the minority, bomb-throwing — or at least being very dogged and outspoken — can be much more important because you're not going to get legislation passed anyways.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even though de León is more liberal than Feinstein on issues like health care and immigration, Kousser agreed that the differences between the two Democrats rest more in style than substance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The biggest difference between Kevin de León and Dianne Feinstein is that Dianne Feinstein is going to work collaboratively and often quietly, using the relationships that she has in Washington, to try to get things done,\" he said. \"Kevin de León, if he were elected, would come in and speak loudly and be an outside disruptive voice in the Senate. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I mean, first of all, the U.S. Senate is a seniority-based organization,\" said Jennifer Duffy, senior editor at the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. \"The longer you've been there, the more influence you have — the more likely you are to chair a major committee. ... It's a lot easier to affect policy for your states, or to get a federal agency to respond to you. You can work with your colleagues better, you've known them a lot longer. You're not the new kid in town.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of those factors were on full display during the recent confirmation hearings of Brett Kavanaugh. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein, as ranking member of the powerful Senate Judiciary Committee, literally had a seat at the center of the table, next to chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa. She was the first Democrat to ask the nominee questions, and she was the Democrat most likely to have Grassley's ear when it came to procedural questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Feinstein was also in the hot seat as one after another, Republicans attacked her for waiting so long to make public the accusations of sexual assault against Kavanaugh by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford. By holding onto the letter she received from Ford for so long, Feinstein handed Trump and the Republicans an important talking point they used over and over — that the whole affair was politically motivated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Feinstein's position as the ranking member didn’t change the hearing's outcome. Kavanaugh was confirmed, and she couldn’t do much about it as a member of the minority party.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11694637/kavanaugh-confirmation-process-spills-into-california-senate-race\">Kavanaugh Confirmation Process Spills Into California Senate Race\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11694637/kavanaugh-confirmation-process-spills-into-california-senate-race\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/FeinsteinDeLeon-1180x670.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\"Seniority isn't the end all and be all for developing power in the Senate,\" said UC San Diego political science professor Thad Kousser. \"What seniority gets you is your rank on a committee ... but we saw the limits of that power in the Kavanaugh hearings. (Feinstein) was able to put things on the agenda in an important way, but really at the end of the day, she wasn't able to control how the hearing went.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, that calculation could change overnight if Democrats regain control of the Senate next month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Josh Huder, a senior fellow at the Government Affairs Institute at Georgetown University, said that the \"biggest advantage that seniority gives a senator is their position on various committees.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, he said, if Democrats win and Feinstein is suddenly chair of the Judiciary Committee, she'd have an enormous amount of power — overseeing judicial appointments and the Justice Department, and by extension, the Mueller investigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's a major, major position if she were to hold the chairmanship of that particular committee,\" Huder said. \"All of a sudden she has enormous leverage to give or take away things that the (Trump) administration would want.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marc Sandalow — who covered Feinstein for three decades as a journalist and is now academic associate director of the University of California's Washington program — agreed, saying that if Democrats are back in the majority, Feinstein suddenly would be among the most powerful people in Washington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Huder and Duffy also noted that in another arena — legislation — Democrats hold power even as the minority party because Republicans have such a slim majority and in the Senate, you often need 60 votes to get legislation off the floor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Republicans would argue they can't get much done either right now,\" said Duffy. \"No party has a real working majority until they get to about 57 seats.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Huder agreed, adding that \"this is another spot where Dianne Feinstein has a ton of leverage.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11620276\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/10/RS24761_20170324_SenatorKevindeLeon_Credit_BertJohnson-1-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"State Sen. 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The irony, said Sandalow, is that many of the qualities that have made Feinstein successful in Washington — her collegiality and willingness to work across the aisle — are now giving her opponent fodder to attack her back home, where Democrats are fired up and want to see their representatives pushing back against the Trump administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"She's more politically moderate than a lot of Democrats in California,\" Sandalow said. \"She's not a bomb thrower.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Those qualities can frustrate people who want people to fight back against the president and fight back against conservatives,\" he said. \"When you're in the minority, bomb-throwing — or at least being very dogged and outspoken — can be much more important because you're not going to get legislation passed anyways.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even though de León is more liberal than Feinstein on issues like health care and immigration, Kousser agreed that the differences between the two Democrats rest more in style than substance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The biggest difference between Kevin de León and Dianne Feinstein is that Dianne Feinstein is going to work collaboratively and often quietly, using the relationships that she has in Washington, to try to get things done,\" he said. \"Kevin de León, if he were elected, would come in and speak loudly and be an outside disruptive voice in the Senate. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The PPIC event will be streamed live with \"broadcast-quality video\" for TV.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The last opponent Feinstein debated was moderate Republican Tom Campbell in 2000. Since then she has consistently declined to debate, a decision that hasn't seemed to hurt her, given the relatively low profile of her opponents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein's campaign spokesman, Jeff Millman, insisted the rules for next week's event will allow plenty of interaction between the two candidates, which may or may not be what happens. \"It's just like what you and KQED did this week with the candidates for governor,\" Millman said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It might be splitting hairs, but this week's \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11697413/gavin-newsom-john-cox-spar-on-housing-criminal-justice-in-wide-ranging-debate\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">discussion\u003c/a> with Gavin Newsom and John Cox included plenty of direct interaction between the two candidates without interference from the moderator (me).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's not unusual for incumbents and frontrunners to decline debates to minimize the risk of losing their advantage with a mistake that alters the campaign's dynamics.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11697647/the-debate-about-debates-should-candidates-be-compelled-to-participate\">The Debate About Debates: Should Candidates Be Compelled to Participate?\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11697647/the-debate-about-debates-should-candidates-be-compelled-to-participate\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/10/debate-1180x817.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>In general however, there's not much evidence that debates change voters' minds so much as they reinforce pre-debate biases and preferences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Feinstein easily won the June primary with 44 percent of the vote to 12 percent for de León. Since then, the California Democratic Party, in a rebuke to Feinstein, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11680592/highlights-from-the-california-democratic-partys-summer-executive-board-meeting\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">endorsed de León\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A recent \u003ca href=\"http://www.ppic.org/press-release/gas-tax-repeal-rent-control-propositions-trailing/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">PPIC poll\u003c/a> showed Feinstein's lead has shrunk from 22 points in July to just 11 points now, 40 to 29 percent with 8 percent undecided.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the incumbent Democrat has a large advantage in campaign cash and a positive approval rating from voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the confirmation hearings for U.S. Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, she came under repeated criticism from Republicans, including President Trump and GOP members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. They accused Feinstein of holding onto a letter from Dr. Christine Blasey Ford until the last minute in an effort to upend Kavanaugh's nomination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's not clear what impact — if any — that will have on Feinstein's re-election.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\u003cp>The Senate Judiciary Committee \u003ca href=\"http://bit.ly/kavanaughhearing\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">heard testimony\u003c/a> Thursday from Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh and Professor Christine Blasey Ford regarding allegations that the nominee sexually assaulted Ford when they were both in high school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here is a selection of quickly drawn cartoons from the hearing, which began with Ford’s testimony.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695073\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-800x597.jpg\" alt=\"Terrified by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"597\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-800x597.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-160x119.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-1020x762.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-1200x896.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-1920x1434.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-1180x881.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-960x717.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-240x179.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-375x280.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-520x388.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ford mentioned the difficulties her family has faced since she went public with her allegations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695074\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-800x597.jpg\" alt=\"Far Worse by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"597\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-800x597.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-160x119.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-1020x762.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-1200x896.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-1920x1434.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-1180x881.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-960x717.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-240x179.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-375x280.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-520x388.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Using terms familiar to a psychology professor, Ford related her experience in ways that were simultaneously emotional and clinical.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695077\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-800x518.jpg\" alt=\"Hippocampus by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"518\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-800x518.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-160x104.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-1020x660.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-1200x777.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-1920x1243.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-1180x764.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-960x622.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-240x155.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-375x243.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-520x337.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, praised Ford and became the punching bag for Republicans, who throughout the day accused her of withholding the letter alleging sexual assault until Kavanaugh neared confirmation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695098\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-800x539.jpg\" alt=\"Strength and Bravery by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"539\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-800x539.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-160x108.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-1020x687.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-1200x809.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-1920x1294.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-1180x795.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-960x647.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-240x162.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-375x253.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-520x350.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Christine Blasey Ford made references to her “beach friends,” and to talking about Kavanaugh on the beach in Aptos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695102\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-800x455.jpg\" alt=\"Beach Friends by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"455\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-800x455.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-160x91.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-1020x581.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-1200x683.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-1920x1093.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-1180x672.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-960x547.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-240x137.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-375x214.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-520x296.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Republicans on the committee \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/09/26/651735137/sex-crimes-prosecutor-picked-for-kavanaugh-hearing-brings-decades-of-experience\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">chose a female veteran sex crimes prosecutor\u003c/a> to question Ford.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695105\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-800x495.jpg\" alt=\"Mitchell by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"495\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-800x495.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-160x99.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-1020x631.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-1200x743.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-1920x1188.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-1180x730.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-960x594.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-240x149.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-375x232.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-520x322.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many looked forward to (or dreaded, depending on your politics) Sen. Kamala Harris’ questioning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695107\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-800x547.jpg\" alt=\"I Believe You by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"547\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-800x547.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-160x109.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-1020x697.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-1200x820.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-1920x1312.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-1180x806.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-960x656.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-240x164.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-375x256.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-520x355.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a lunch break, a visibly angry Judge Brett Kavanaugh testified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695108\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-800x604.jpg\" alt=\"Destroyed by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"604\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-800x604.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-160x121.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-1020x770.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-1200x906.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-1920x1449.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-1180x891.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-960x725.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-240x181.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-375x283.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-520x393.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Throughout his testimony Kavanaugh was surprisingly emotional, choking up numerous times while recounting everything from his daughter praying to specific football workouts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695112\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh02-800x563.jpg\" alt=\"Cringed by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"563\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh02-800x563.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh02-160x113.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh02-1020x718.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh02-1200x845.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh02-1920x1352.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh02-1180x831.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh02-960x676.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh02-240x169.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh02-375x264.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh02-520x366.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kavanaugh became particularly incensed when he mentioned one of the other women who has recently gone public with her story of sexual assault.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695115\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-800x708.jpg\" alt=\"A Joke by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"708\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-800x708.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-160x142.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-1020x902.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-1200x1062.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-1920x1699.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-1180x1044.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-960x849.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-240x212.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-375x332.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-520x460.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though the subject at hand was very serious, interpreting a teenager’s yearbook entry brought words never heard before in a Supreme Court confirmation hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695116\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh03-800x555.jpg\" alt=\"Flatulence by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"555\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh03-800x555.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh03-160x111.jpg 160w, 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Kamala Harris attempted to undermine Kavanaugh’s recitation of his numerous friends, letters and character witnesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-11695132 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-800x523.jpg\" alt=\"Possible by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"523\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-800x523.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-160x105.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-1020x667.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-1200x785.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-1920x1256.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-1180x772.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-960x628.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-240x157.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-375x245.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-520x340.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The committee might vote on the Kavanaugh nomination as early as Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The Senate Judiciary Committee \u003ca href=\"http://bit.ly/kavanaughhearing\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">heard testimony\u003c/a> Thursday from Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh and Professor Christine Blasey Ford regarding allegations that the nominee sexually assaulted Ford when they were both in high school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here is a selection of quickly drawn cartoons from the hearing, which began with Ford’s testimony.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695073\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-800x597.jpg\" alt=\"Terrified by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"597\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-800x597.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-160x119.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-1020x762.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-1200x896.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-1920x1434.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-1180x881.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-960x717.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-240x179.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-375x280.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/terrified01-520x388.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ford mentioned the difficulties her family has faced since she went public with her allegations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695074\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-800x597.jpg\" alt=\"Far Worse by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"597\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-800x597.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-160x119.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-1020x762.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-1200x896.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-1920x1434.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-1180x881.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-960x717.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-240x179.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-375x280.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/blaseyford01-520x388.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Using terms familiar to a psychology professor, Ford related her experience in ways that were simultaneously emotional and clinical.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695077\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-800x518.jpg\" alt=\"Hippocampus by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"518\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-800x518.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-160x104.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-1020x660.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-1200x777.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-1920x1243.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-1180x764.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-960x622.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-240x155.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-375x243.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/hippocampus01-520x337.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, praised Ford and became the punching bag for Republicans, who throughout the day accused her of withholding the letter alleging sexual assault until Kavanaugh neared confirmation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695098\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-800x539.jpg\" alt=\"Strength and Bravery by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"539\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-800x539.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-160x108.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-1020x687.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-1200x809.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-1920x1294.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-1180x795.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-960x647.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-240x162.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-375x253.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/feinstein01-520x350.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Christine Blasey Ford made references to her “beach friends,” and to talking about Kavanaugh on the beach in Aptos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695102\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-800x455.jpg\" alt=\"Beach Friends by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"455\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-800x455.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-160x91.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-1020x581.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-1200x683.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-1920x1093.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-1180x672.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-960x547.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-240x137.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-375x214.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/beach01-520x296.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Republicans on the committee \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/09/26/651735137/sex-crimes-prosecutor-picked-for-kavanaugh-hearing-brings-decades-of-experience\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">chose a female veteran sex crimes prosecutor\u003c/a> to question Ford.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695105\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-800x495.jpg\" alt=\"Mitchell by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"495\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-800x495.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-160x99.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-1020x631.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-1200x743.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-1920x1188.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-1180x730.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-960x594.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-240x149.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-375x232.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/mitchell01-520x322.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many looked forward to (or dreaded, depending on your politics) Sen. Kamala Harris’ questioning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695107\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-800x547.jpg\" alt=\"I Believe You by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"547\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-800x547.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-160x109.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-1020x697.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-1200x820.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-1920x1312.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-1180x806.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-960x656.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-240x164.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-375x256.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris01-520x355.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a lunch break, a visibly angry Judge Brett Kavanaugh testified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695108\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-800x604.jpg\" alt=\"Destroyed by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"604\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-800x604.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-160x121.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-1020x770.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/kavanaugh01-1200x906.jpg 1200w, 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particularly incensed when he mentioned one of the other women who has recently gone public with her story of sexual assault.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-11695115\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-800x708.jpg\" alt=\"A Joke by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"708\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-800x708.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-160x142.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-1020x902.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-1200x1062.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-1920x1699.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-1180x1044.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/ajoke01-960x849.jpg 960w, 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Kamala Harris attempted to undermine Kavanaugh’s recitation of his numerous friends, letters and character witnesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-11695132 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-800x523.jpg\" alt=\"Possible by Mark Fiore\" width=\"800\" height=\"523\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-800x523.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-160x105.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-1020x667.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-1200x785.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-1920x1256.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-1180x772.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-960x628.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-240x157.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-375x245.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/09/harris02a-520x340.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The committee might vote on the Kavanaugh nomination as early as Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Updated at 8:32 p.m. ET\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh says he isn't considering withdrawing in the wake of more allegations of sexual misconduct from decades ago, and proclaimed his innocence in a new TV interview Monday evening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I'm not going to let false accusations drive us out of this process,\" Kavanaugh told Fox News' Martha MacCallum in an interview alongside his wife, Ashley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're looking for a fair process where I can be heard and defend my integrity and my lifelong record of promoting dignity and equality for women, starting with the women who knew me when I was 14 years old. I'm not going anywhere,\" Kavanaugh said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I know I'm telling the truth. I know my lifelong record, and I'm not going to let false accusations drive me out of this process,\" Kavanaugh continued. \"I have faith in God, and I have faith in the fairness of the American people.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new interview with Kavanaugh comes after \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/09/23/650979665/kavanaugh-denies-fresh-harassment-allegations-from-college-classmate\">accusations surfaced Sunday night from Deborah Ramirez\u003c/a>, who in a story published in \u003cem>The New Yorker\u003c/em> alleges Kavanaugh exposed himself to her during a drunken party at Yale when they both attended college there in the 1980s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thursday the Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled a hearing into the allegation by Christine Blasey Ford that Kavanaugh groped her and tried to remove her clothes during a party when both were in high school in Bethesda, Md., more than 30 years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ford and Kavanaugh have agreed to testify, although California Sen. 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But what I know is I've never sexually assaulted anyone,\" Kavanaugh said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kavanaugh said he \"may have met\" Ford — who went to a private girls school while he went to a private Jesuit boys school in suburban Washington, D.C., during the early 1980s — but that \"we did not travel in the same social circles.\" Ford is two years younger than Kavanaugh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kavanaugh also said he was \"never at any such party\" back then like that Ford has described and that \"I have never had any sexual or physical activity with Dr. Ford.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kavanaugh said that, yes, there were parties with alcohol that he attended while in high school, but there was never a time where he drank so much he couldn't remember his actions from the night before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I have always treated women with dignity and respect,\" Kavanaugh repeated several times, and said most of his time in high school was spent studying, playing sports or going to church.\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I'm a good person. I've led a good life. I've tried to do a lot of good for a lot of people. I'm not perfect. I know that. 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I've known him for 17 years and this is not at all who [he is]. It's really hard to believe,\" she said. \"He's decent. He's kind. He's good. I know his heart. This is not consistent with Brett.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, is among the Republicans calling for the committee to look into the allegations by Ramirez. Collins says she has not decided if she will support Kavanaugh and she is looking to the upcoming hearing with Ford and the judge before she makes up her mind.\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think that the committee investigators should reach out to Deborah Ramirez in order to question her under oath about what she's alleging,\" Collins said. \"I'm eager for the hearing to take place this Thursday and hear from both Judge Kavanaugh and from Dr. Ford.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, told reporters Monday that committee lawyers have been in touch with lawyers for Ramirez and they are talking. He would not say if he expects a public hearing on Ramirez's allegations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>President Trump reiterated his support for Kavanaugh again on Monday, telling reporters on his way into the United Nations on Monday morning that Kavanaugh \"is an outstanding person, and I am with him all the way.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the charges \"could be one of the single most unfair, unjust things to happen for a candidate for anything.\" The women making the allegations, Trump said, \"were coming out of the woodwork\" and, he said, \"in my opinion totally political.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1044339078257356801\">in a tweet\u003c/a> to his more than 50 million followers Monday evening Trump touted the Fox News interview and added \"This is an outstanding family who must be treated fairly!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kavanaugh told MacCallum that Trump had called him Monday afternoon to say \"he's standing by me.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=4936580-Kavanaugh-Letter-To-Grassley-Sept-24\">In a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee\u003c/a> released earlier\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>Monday, Kavanaugh called the accusations attempts at \"last minute character assassination\":\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\n\u003cp>\"These are smears, pure and simple. And they debase our public discourse. But they are also a threat to any man or woman who wishes to serve our country. Such grotesque and obvious character assassination—if allowed to succeed—will dissuade competent and good people of all political persuasions from service.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>The committee also \u003ca href=\"https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=4936720-Christine-Blasey-Ford-Letter-To-Grassley-Sept-22\">released a letter from Ford\u003c/a>, dated last Saturday, in which she said coming forward with her charge was \"something that a citizen couldn't NOT do. I felt agony yet urgency and a civic duty to let it be known, in a confidential manner, prior to the nominee being selected.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She continued:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\n\u003cp>\"Mr. Kavanaugh's actions, while many years ago, were serious and have had a lasting impact on my life. I thought that knowledge of his actions could be useful for you and those in charge of choosing among the various candidates. My original intent was first and foremost to be a helpful citizen – in a confidential way that would minimize collateral damage to all families and friends involved.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., also accused Democrats of a \"shameful, shameful, smear campaign\" against Kavanaugh and vowed he will receive an up-or-down vote on his nomination on the Senate floor on \"in the near future.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee met Monday evening in McConnell's office to discuss the Thursday hearing. Several members said there was clear agreement that the hearing will go forward. 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