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And so there’s a lot of frustration on the part of Newsom and many with the level of gun violence and the inability to really do that much about the supply of guns and guns that kill a lot of people in a very short amount of time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And I think in part, I mean, this is, you know, part of a long story of Democrats pushing back against the NRA and other, you know, gun rights groups. But it also really comes, I think, in part because of U.S. Supreme Court decisions and lower court decisions of recent years that have really undercut not just California, but other blue states like New York’s own laws. I mean, you said it has three parts. There’s actually a fourth part I found interesting, which is it would essentially affirm the rights of cities and states to pass even further gun control, which is something, you know, that the court has really undermined in particular with last year’s Bruen decision. I mean, this was a decision that we’re even seeing lower courts really push back on, because in it, Clarence Thomas wrote that essentially we need to take into account the historical context of any gun law. And it’s like these judges are like, well, how do we know what was sort of normal in the 18th century when we’re talking about…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Well Clarence Thomas has figured it out so I’m sure he could teach them. But no, you know, this is obviously something that is, as you said, it becomes a national story if it passes. And, you know, we’d have to get a lot of other states, 33 total states, to actually call for a convention, a constitutional convention, which has a lot of risks. You know, Newsom thinks that he can focus this in on the gun issue, but there’s a lot of concern, including among people like Erwin Chemerinsky, the law school dean at Berkeley, saying you can’t control it. And once you open that box, you could be dealing with LGBTQ rights, abortion and any number of other hot button issues which, you know, would potentially be on on the docket, you know, if you’re going to start talking about those things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marisa Lagos: Absolutely. Well, another story that we continue to follow is the past and future, really, of U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein. You know, her longtime husband, Dick Blum, passed away about a year or so, a year or two ago. And Scott, you’ve been following there’s now a kind of fight over his estate and the trustees that were put in charge here. Yeah. Tell us why this matters, though, to average people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Well, it’s just another sad chapter, unfortunately. And, you know, final years of Dianne Feinstein. She’s has such a, you know, storied career. But we’ve seen the cognitive declines, evidence of that. She was very sick. She had shingles. And now we’ve got this dispute between really her, but her daughter, Katherine, her only daughter, and the four daughters of Dick Blum, who, you know, this sometimes happens with blended families if you don’t have clear instructions—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Or non-blended families, honestly\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> But especially when you have competing interests, you know, within one family. And, you know, Katherine Feinstein and through the attorneys say that the trust has not been properly funding the marital trust. They have not been responding to requests for funding to help pay for Feinstein’s medical bills. One thing that confuses me, I mean, it’s just a big mess, you know. And they’re also alleging, by the way, financial elder abuse. And so but, you know Dianne Feinstein was quite wealthy on her own, you know. So I don’t quite understand entirely, I mean, apart from this, you know, why it is that, you know, she needs, you know, money from that trust to pay for her medical bills. But clearly, there’s a lot at stake because the daughters of Blum want to just kind of drag this out as long as possible, because once Feinstein goes, you know, all of his money goes to them. And I think that’s clearly part of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I think there’s also sort of bringing it back to like her as a public official. Interesting questions this raises. And we may never know the answers about her financial situation and how much that has impacted her ability to, say, travel back and forth between California and D.C.. I think a lot of us when she was having that bout of shingles, were a little confused about why somebody who, quite frankly, is as wealthy or has been as her, wouldn’t just charter their own jet. Why is she flying commercial? Why is the stairs in her condo in D.C. an issue? And maybe this answer some of those questions that maybe there isn’t as many resources available to her as we all assume.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Right. And some of those resources were available when Dick Blum was alive. He had a plane, which she presumably used. The other thing is, you know, her daughter, Katherine Feinstein, former judge who’s now retired, has been given durable power of attorney over her legal and financial issues. And, you know, it does raise a question of just how able is she to do her job as senator if she needs to have someone step in for her on these issues. That, you know, in and of itself does not say she can’t be the senator and do a job. But we’ve seen, you know, in a number of different ways her decline and it’s just sad because it’s I’m sure it’s not what she would have hoped for for her final years in office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And I think you and I have also, you know, talked to a lot of people who are close to the senator and have been historically and know that I think there’s been some disagreement between herself and her daughter about whether she should continue her job in D.C.. That may also explain why Katherine Feinstein has not been as visible by her mom’s side as other folks, including Nancy Pelosi’s daughter, who she I think is kind of another daughter to the senator who and has been really assisting her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> A lot of people have tried to get her to not run, you know, back in 2018 and then to even to step step aside early. But she just really refused to do that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, we do wish her the best and we will be watching this case. We’re going to take a short break. When we come back, we’ll be joined by former state Controlle and 2026 gubernatorial hopeful Betty Yee. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Welcome back to Political Breakdown, Marisa Lagos here with Scott Shafer. Today, we are excited to welcome Betty Yee. She has served on the state Board of Equalization, as state Controller and is now vice chair of the state Democratic Party and a candidate for governor in 2026. Betty Yee, welcome to Political Breakdown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Thank you. Good to be with you both.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Great to have you. So we want to start at the beginning, as we often do. I know you were raised in San Francisco on the west side and your parents had a business there. Tell us about them and your family. I think you’re one of four siblings?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Six. There are six of us. Yes, I have five siblings. I am the second oldest of six children born to Chinese immigrants. My father came to the United States when he was 14 years old, essentially kicked out by his family in China, southern southeastern part of China, in a prearranged marriage to my mother and was urged to go find a better life that he could have to provide for his future bride and family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> How did they end up in San Francisco?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> So my father came over. He was sponsored. My then godfather was already here in San Francisco, so he essentially sponsored my father to come to San Francisco. Shortly after his arrival, he apprentice in the laundry business in San Francisco, Chinatown, and did that for quite a while. But his path to citizenship was naturalization after his service in World War Two and the United States Army, a very common path for immigrants during that time. And so eventually he opened up his own laundry dry cleaning business, brought my mother here the year before I was born. And so I do have four sisters and one brother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Wow. And so this was a laundromat on the west side. And I know you helped them. I think all of you guys did. But it sounds like your affinity for numbers came early through that that experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Well, you know, the best employees of a family business are the kids, right? And so I think each of us had a had a role. I was particularly facile with numbers. And so my father, I remember of the end of every week, we’d figure out, you know, what our bills were. He’d hand me all the receipts of the week in a cigar box, and I had to kind of figure out how much money we had. But I also began to negotiate with vendors when I was at a young age, probably about seven or eight years old, how to get a good price on supplies that we needed. And the banking, at the end of the year, another cigar box approached me with tax forms and they were Board of Equalization forms, I had no idea what they were. Follow the instructions, file them and who knew decades later, I’d become a member of the board hearing tax appeals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And hopefully not dealing with cigar boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> No\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> You had receipts at that point. But you got into politics in a way, when you were quite young, 13 years old. Yes. And there was an issue in your neighborhood about busing. Your younger sister was going to be bused under a policy that was being proposed. And you stood up at the school district hearing to advocate against bussing. Tell us how you got to that microphone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. I was 13 years old at the time, and as I always recall the story, I’m happy I’m sitting down because I remember the moment I was so nervous. I had never spoken publicly before. But the four Chinese-American families, who all were small business owners in the neighborhood, came to my father and said, ‘We would like your daughter to attend the town hall meeting of the school board,’ which was at the elementary school two blocks away, walking distance from my family’s business, and to essentially make a statement about the bussing program, which essentially says, we are small business owners, our children are able to walk to school today. If anything should happen to them, if they’re bused across the city, we would have to shut down our business. We’d lose a day of livelihood. It would take us well over 2 hours to be on public transportation, to pick up our children and bring them home. And none of us drive. And so we don’t oppose the goals of the busing program. But could we use that money just to improve the quality of all of the schools in San Francisco? And so I made that statement. I got up, made that statement and went back to my seat in the auditorium. And of course, we know that the busing program lasted that the better part of the next three decades. But everything was fine. Nothing happened to my sister and my siblings after her. But it was a moment that just stayed with me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well this was over desegregation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Yes, exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I mean, the idea was to make schools more equitable and more diverse. And this is an issue that continues, this debate. I’m curious, like as a staunch member of the Democratic Party, do you see the issue any differently now than you did as a kid at 13?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> You know, it’s interesting. I’m a product of San Francisco public schools. I went to Lowell high school, and I always thought, even as I was growing up and to this day, why were we never just trying to create more Lowell high schools, you know, just throughout the city? You know, we’ve got this crazy competitive process, you know, for everyone to get into the one of the top college prep schools. But yet, you know, we could have at the same time just created more of those to have more opportunities for students. You know, I would say, you know, the bssing program at that time was about a family hardship. I personally support busing programs. I think the earlier we can have young people just be able to understand, you know, the diversity of, you know, our society and to be able to just learn and play and grow with them is a beautiful thing. And I think probably would deepen just so much of the understanding across communities that is so lacking today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> I’m curious, you know, sometimes when you have these big cultural issues come to the fore, I’m thinking about same sex marriage, you know, And the opponents said, you know, if we let gay couples marry, the sky is going to fall, is going to ruin this, that and the other thing, and lo and behold, it didn’t. Right. And I’m wondering, so did the things that you said when you stood up that day come to pass in terms of your family? Did they have to close the business? Or was that maybe a little easier, turned out to be a little easier than you thought?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> It turned out to be easier. I mean, I think a lot of it was just the unknown. And really, when you have the convenience of an elementary school two blocks away, walking distance. I mean, my younger sister, I remember, actually got lost walking home from school one day. And so what could happen possibly when she’s across the city?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And so did she go to Visitation Valley ultimately?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> She did, she did, yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Interesting. So you I mean, you say that that was kind of a political awakening for you. You go on to U.C. Berkeley for undergrad, then Golden Gate University. But I know your college student experience was kind of interrupted in a way when your father became ill. Talk about that. And like, how what did that change? It must have been a very different experience for you than a lot of your peers at that time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Definitely. And even when I was going to Berkeley, I commuted every day. I worked to essentially put myself through school. And you know what was really unfortunate, my father became ill with kidney failure when I was a junior at Cal, and I had to move back home. So each of us, the siblings, took on various responsibilities. A couple of my sisters kept the business going with my mother. I was responsible for taking him to dialysis three times a week at UCSF, and we all coordinated his therapies. But he ended up living for another five years before he passed away, but fairly young in his early sixties. And so this created a situation where my mother decided to continue the business and eventually shut it down. I know one of my sisters wanted to take it over but she just was adamant, you know, ‘My father and I did not sacrifice to have you all be able to get to college and for you to run to run a laundry and dry cleaning business after.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Very immigrant mom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Right, exactly. But what changed about all of that was just really having to navigate so many things for my father’s health care. Understanding, you know, all of the health benefits, Social Security, disability, looking at how to be an advocate in terms of just being sure that his care was the best that he could get. And also understanding that, you know, in terms of just keeping the business going, we came to a point of where, you know, people weren’t like really coming to dry cleaners a lot anymore. And so really seeing kind of the nature of the business declining over time as well. And he was known, by the way, as finishing men’s shirts. So when he wasn’t there to finish men’s shirts anymore, I think that, you know, there was something that just kind of went by the wayside without his talent still in place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> If you’re just joining us, you’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED. I’m Scott Shafer here with Marissa Vargas. We’re talking with Betty Yee, former state Controller, who is now working with the Cal Democratic Party, running for governor in 2026. You know, you’re talking about your dad’s health problems and one of your early jobs was in public health in Santa Cruz County, and you got involved with HIV AIDS. How did you make that pivot? [\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Sure. After graduate school at Golden Gate University, I really wanted to be in a smaller community to look and see whether I could have more impact. And I was very attracted to women’s health issues. And Santa Cruz County, particularly Santa Cruz city, had a very strong women’s health collective. So I moved down there, did a lot of work with them, and the women’s committee was quite integrated, to where we had dealt with issues of fiscal health, certainly public health, domestic violence, mental health, all of that was just one really integrated community of service providers. One of the members of the Board of Supervisors always selected his member of the County Public Health Commission from the women’s health community. So I was selected by then supervisor Gary Patton to sit on the Public Health Commission. I believe we were the first county to write an anti-smoking ordinance for the unincorporated areas of the county, this was back in the mid-1980s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And also when the HIV AIDS epidemic broke, we really were at a loss about what to do. We didn’t know anything about treatment at the time, but certainly wanted to get information out to as many communities as possible. And I was tasked to go to Sacramento and bring home some public health dollars for the county for HIV AIDS purposes. I went to Sacramento as a Senate fellow, and did my fellowship with the Senate Health and Human Services Committee and was appalled at what I saw in terms of very, actually no women and very few, I could count on less than one hand, staff of from our diverse communities who are advising our legislators about funding for for health issues. And so I decided I wanted to stay after my fellowship and change that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And you never left, Kind of. I know you lived in the Bay Area. But I do wonder I mean, you talk about the lack of diversity there. I mean, that’s even more so, I would imagine, in the finance sort of sector of public policy. So you end up working for both the legislature on fiscal policy and then Governor Gray Davis. I mean, obviously, that played to your strengths. But were you also attracted by the fact that you could kind of be a trailblazer in those places?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> I would say yes to some extent, but I also wanted to change the landscape. So I’m happy to say today it looks very, very different. I think Californians would be pleased to hear that their committees are well-represented, not just in their elected officials, but certainly among the staff who are advising our electeds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> You did work for Governor Gray Davis, who, of course, was recalled, replaced by Arnold Schwarzenegger. He had been state comptroller before that and, you know, before he was lieutenant governor. Did he advise you? Did you ask him about running for state Controller? What were you going to say?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I was going to say, did he take your advice at all? But that’s a whole other question. Start with Scott’s question.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Well, first of all, let me say I have a very deep fondness for for Governor Davis, who I believe when history looks back at his tenure as governor, we’ll see that we did some really wonderful things for the state of California. You know, for Governor Davis. I did Secret Service in terms of Controller. You know, my discipline has been in finance. And so he was very encouraging. Certainly thought being state Controller was one of the best statewide offices because you really had the ability to elevate the public’s trust and confidence in their government. You know, this is a fiscal watchdog, financial watchdog position. So to the extent that you do that job well and give the public a sense that somebody is, you know, watching over our finances and our fiscal house, that just has, you know, a really good connection with what the public generally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I mean, on the other hand, I kind of allude to this, but, you know, he was recalled, I think, largely because of the energy crisis. But I think in hindsight, there’s a lot of criticisms of the way he oversaw the budget. There’s a sense that he over promised to unions. You know, Schwarzenegger inherited a really dismal budget deficit. Was he listening to you? Like what? What did he do differently than what you were advising?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> You know, I think it’s always, you know, the devil’s in the details with respect to how budgets put together. Look, there was a lot of legislative pressure. Prior to Governor Davis, we had, you know, governor, Pete Wilson. So a lot of pent up frustration in terms of what some of the constituencies were not able to get during those years with Governor Wilson in office. And so I think Governor Davis, you know, did the best he could relative to negotiations. As his budget director and adviser, I always say fiscal prudence is never an unpopular thing. So, you know, always reminding him that, you know, this is a good place to be. But at the end of the day, to get a budget, these were protracted budgets. You remember during those years where you didn’t have a budget —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well and you needed a two-thirds, it was a much different process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well and full disclosure, I was working for him when he was the state Controller at that time and they were issuing IOUs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> That’s right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And he and Wilson did not get along. And I think, you know, now that I can say this now, he was, I think, using that to elevate himself, that conflict. And I’m wondering, you know, what did you learn observing that in terms of how different constitutional officers get together or should get along or not?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> I wish there could be more collaboration, frankly. We are independently elected constitutional offices, but I certainly view the role of the Controller as being very pivotal to just the entire operation of the state. We’re a high production office. We have the ability to look out at just any kind of economic risks that could be hitting California. Certainly from a cash flow perspective, when we might run into trouble. And look, I was proactive, always advised, you know, the executive branch, the governor’s office, whenever we saw anything. But I think there could have been more collaboration because, you know, we are the ones that really understand how to, you know, just push money out the door. And certainly, you know, when the pandemic hit, I think there was a bit more collaboration, but it could have been much deeper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, you mentioned pushing money out the door. As I said at the top, you’re running for governor. You want to pick how to spend that money. When you ran for Controller, you talked a lot about tax reform and the idea that we do need to at least tweak our system so that it’s less reliant on the top 1%. Of course, that means the other 99% probably would pay more. Talk about your vision for the state. If you do become governor, what you know, what would you like to see done? Understanding you won’t be empress but you could try.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> The tax system is I mean, we have it, we’re living with it, I will say the one reform that has really helped us tremendously is the voter approval of a rainy day fund. Frankly, if we didn’t have that at the beginning of the pandemic, we probably would have had to do some pretty expensive borrowing. So we’re very grateful for the voters wisdom in that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But also, when you look at other states in terms of, you know, just fiscal stability, I think the mix of taxes is really important. You know, obviously we have Prop 13, which capped the local property tax. But the mix from the perspective that, you know, when you have such reliance on upper income earners who and there’s been a lot of stories about many of them leaving California. But we’re also still getting new people coming into California. So from a tax perspective, close to being a wash. But I think the more that we see affordability issues here, we are going to see more Californians leaving. So sales tax, we’ve talked a lot about how being one of the few large states that does not tax services and that is real money. I mean, that is money that could actually come in on a pretty regular basis. Example of that, you go take your car in for repair. You pay for tax on the parts, but not on the service. And that could generate, you know, quite quite a quite a chunk of change,\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Although a lot of the states, I would guess, that have that tax don’t have other taxes, like some states don’t have income tax for example. So I mean you’re talking about adding yet more tax on a, you know, somewhat high tax burden states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Well but it’s also about the what you do on the spending side too. But relative to the just kind of the tax sources and the mix of taxes I think that it actually could result in hopefully a decrease in some tax rates on the income tax side so that we can have the sales tax really be more reflective of, you know, what’s really happening on the economy. You know, on the spending side, I would say, look, I was comptroller, did audits, you know, uncovered a lot over my eight years, about $7.3 billion of public funds that were directed to unallowed uses. And there’s more there had we had more time and resources to uncover that there was always waste. It’s not fraud. It’s just that’s part of the system. And so we have to root that out. And we also know that from a tax perspective that there are those who are going to continue to not be compliant. And so to the extent that we can add, you know, more resources to have to work with taxpayers to become compliant, that is to the good for the long term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, you’re running in 2026 and before then we have just this little election next year. I’m curious, you know, the California Democratic Party is seen as to the left of even some Democrats in California. How do you see kind of approaching that? Do you think there needs to be any change in the way that the party operates? And and how are you thinking about heading into this election year?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Yeah, you know, I think there has been a change in how the party operates. So we have invested in what we call year round organizing. So we are engaging Democrats, the 10 million plus Democrats in the state, year round now instead of just months ahead of an election. And the reason we do that is because we actually get informed by the voters and Democrats about what’s top of mind for them. That helps us then begin to, you know, message how we are going to have our endorsed candidates pay attention to these issues. And and so that has been really, I think, a game changer that this organizing isn’t around election, it’s around being able to really live the values of being Democrats in California. And so whether it’s health care, whether it’s housing affordability, you know, whatever the issue is, we are hearing pretty common themes across all of California. But in certain areas of California, even more dire issues around water and, you know, other top of mind issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> We noted at the top that California’s never had a female governor like so many states have had. There’s a Eleni Kounalakis the lieutenant governor, also running. There’ll be plenty of time to debate the differences. But why do you think there hasn’t been a woman governor in California? And what difference would it make to have one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> As with any office, including governor, you know, women, and this really speaks to, you know, how women professionally have not had the deep networks. You know, these are races that cost tens of millions of dollars. And so to have the deep networks, to be able to fundraise, to be viable as a candidate statewide, I think has been definitely a barrier. But I also think that has changed. We are now running with a sense of maturity in terms of, you know, those networks being much more robust. I also think that given the issues of the day, particularly as it relates to reproductive rights and just so many of these critical social issues, you know, the women’s voice is really important. And so and when you look at the electorate, over half are women. And so I think it’s high time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> All right. We are going to leave it there. That is former comptroller and 2026 governor candidate. Betty Yee thanks for coming in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> That will do it for this edition of Political Breakdown. We are a production of KQED Public Radio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Our engineer today is Christopher Beale, Guy Marzorati is our producer. I’m Scott Shafer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And I’m Marisa Lagos. We’ll see you next time.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Plus, the latest on Gov. Gavin Newsom's push for a U.S. constitutional amendment on gun safety.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700874539,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":82,"wordCount":6033},"headData":{"title":"Betty Yee on a Lifetime of Running the Numbers | KQED","description":"Plus, the latest on Gov. 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Gavin Newsom’s push for a U.S. constitutional amendment on gun safety and Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s family legal battle. Then, former State Controller Betty Yee joins to discuss working at her parents’ laundry business, the desegregation busing debate that sparked her political involvement, working as a budget advisor for Gov. Gray Davis, her vision for California’s fiscal future, and why she’s launching a run for governor in 2026.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Hey, everyone. From KQED Public Radio, this is Political Breakdown. I’m Marisa Lagos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And I’m Scott Shafer, and today on the Breakdown, California has never had a female governor, but in 2026, at least two high profile women plan to run. One of them is here today with us. She’s an expert in state finances and most recently served as state Controller after a long stint on the state’s tax board.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Betty Yee is here with us in studio. The daughter of Chinese immigrants, she started crunching numbers as a kid at her family business, and she spent years overseeing state finances. Now she wants to be in charge of spending that money. We’re going to chat with Yee shortly about her run for governor and current position as vice chair of the state Democratic Party.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But first, Scott, it’s been, I would say, a little bit of a quiet August — I mean, in California. We’re not even going to talk about Trump and the national news.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Or Maui for that matter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Or Maui, which is horrific.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Sad, super sad. But yeah, politically, it’s been, you know, it’s the dog days of summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I’m not complaining, honestly, but we got to talk about something.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> We’ve got to talk about something. There’s some stuff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> In his continuing quest to not run for president, but burnish his national credentials, our fair governor has, as you may recall, introduced a constitutional amendment not for the state, but for the U.S. Constitution. This would enshrine gun control into the state constitution. And this week, we saw state lawmakers actually introduce that the first step in a very long —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Very long and somewhat unlikely process. Yeah, it would do three things. It would raise the age to 21 to purchase a gun, it would ban assault weapons, and it would require, you know, mandatory background checks for —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And waiting periods.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Yeah waiting periods. Things that all poll very well certainly in California but really nationwide but which have not you know been able to get any movement on really since the assault weapons ban that Dianne Feinstein kind of muscled through the Senate and through Congress expired. And so there’s a lot of frustration on the part of Newsom and many with the level of gun violence and the inability to really do that much about the supply of guns and guns that kill a lot of people in a very short amount of time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And I think in part, I mean, this is, you know, part of a long story of Democrats pushing back against the NRA and other, you know, gun rights groups. But it also really comes, I think, in part because of U.S. Supreme Court decisions and lower court decisions of recent years that have really undercut not just California, but other blue states like New York’s own laws. I mean, you said it has three parts. There’s actually a fourth part I found interesting, which is it would essentially affirm the rights of cities and states to pass even further gun control, which is something, you know, that the court has really undermined in particular with last year’s Bruen decision. I mean, this was a decision that we’re even seeing lower courts really push back on, because in it, Clarence Thomas wrote that essentially we need to take into account the historical context of any gun law. And it’s like these judges are like, well, how do we know what was sort of normal in the 18th century when we’re talking about…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer\u003c/strong>: Well Clarence Thomas has figured it out so I’m sure he could teach them. But no, you know, this is obviously something that is, as you said, it becomes a national story if it passes. And, you know, we’d have to get a lot of other states, 33 total states, to actually call for a convention, a constitutional convention, which has a lot of risks. You know, Newsom thinks that he can focus this in on the gun issue, but there’s a lot of concern, including among people like Erwin Chemerinsky, the law school dean at Berkeley, saying you can’t control it. And once you open that box, you could be dealing with LGBTQ rights, abortion and any number of other hot button issues which, you know, would potentially be on on the docket, you know, if you’re going to start talking about those things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marisa Lagos: Absolutely. Well, another story that we continue to follow is the past and future, really, of U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein. You know, her longtime husband, Dick Blum, passed away about a year or so, a year or two ago. And Scott, you’ve been following there’s now a kind of fight over his estate and the trustees that were put in charge here. Yeah. Tell us why this matters, though, to average people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Well, it’s just another sad chapter, unfortunately. And, you know, final years of Dianne Feinstein. She’s has such a, you know, storied career. But we’ve seen the cognitive declines, evidence of that. She was very sick. She had shingles. And now we’ve got this dispute between really her, but her daughter, Katherine, her only daughter, and the four daughters of Dick Blum, who, you know, this sometimes happens with blended families if you don’t have clear instructions—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Or non-blended families, honestly\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> But especially when you have competing interests, you know, within one family. And, you know, Katherine Feinstein and through the attorneys say that the trust has not been properly funding the marital trust. They have not been responding to requests for funding to help pay for Feinstein’s medical bills. One thing that confuses me, I mean, it’s just a big mess, you know. And they’re also alleging, by the way, financial elder abuse. And so but, you know Dianne Feinstein was quite wealthy on her own, you know. So I don’t quite understand entirely, I mean, apart from this, you know, why it is that, you know, she needs, you know, money from that trust to pay for her medical bills. But clearly, there’s a lot at stake because the daughters of Blum want to just kind of drag this out as long as possible, because once Feinstein goes, you know, all of his money goes to them. And I think that’s clearly part of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I think there’s also sort of bringing it back to like her as a public official. Interesting questions this raises. And we may never know the answers about her financial situation and how much that has impacted her ability to, say, travel back and forth between California and D.C.. I think a lot of us when she was having that bout of shingles, were a little confused about why somebody who, quite frankly, is as wealthy or has been as her, wouldn’t just charter their own jet. Why is she flying commercial? Why is the stairs in her condo in D.C. an issue? And maybe this answer some of those questions that maybe there isn’t as many resources available to her as we all assume.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Right. And some of those resources were available when Dick Blum was alive. He had a plane, which she presumably used. The other thing is, you know, her daughter, Katherine Feinstein, former judge who’s now retired, has been given durable power of attorney over her legal and financial issues. And, you know, it does raise a question of just how able is she to do her job as senator if she needs to have someone step in for her on these issues. That, you know, in and of itself does not say she can’t be the senator and do a job. But we’ve seen, you know, in a number of different ways her decline and it’s just sad because it’s I’m sure it’s not what she would have hoped for for her final years in office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And I think you and I have also, you know, talked to a lot of people who are close to the senator and have been historically and know that I think there’s been some disagreement between herself and her daughter about whether she should continue her job in D.C.. That may also explain why Katherine Feinstein has not been as visible by her mom’s side as other folks, including Nancy Pelosi’s daughter, who she I think is kind of another daughter to the senator who and has been really assisting her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> A lot of people have tried to get her to not run, you know, back in 2018 and then to even to step step aside early. But she just really refused to do that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, we do wish her the best and we will be watching this case. We’re going to take a short break. When we come back, we’ll be joined by former state Controlle and 2026 gubernatorial hopeful Betty Yee. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Welcome back to Political Breakdown, Marisa Lagos here with Scott Shafer. Today, we are excited to welcome Betty Yee. She has served on the state Board of Equalization, as state Controller and is now vice chair of the state Democratic Party and a candidate for governor in 2026. Betty Yee, welcome to Political Breakdown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Thank you. Good to be with you both.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Great to have you. So we want to start at the beginning, as we often do. I know you were raised in San Francisco on the west side and your parents had a business there. Tell us about them and your family. I think you’re one of four siblings?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Six. There are six of us. Yes, I have five siblings. I am the second oldest of six children born to Chinese immigrants. My father came to the United States when he was 14 years old, essentially kicked out by his family in China, southern southeastern part of China, in a prearranged marriage to my mother and was urged to go find a better life that he could have to provide for his future bride and family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> How did they end up in San Francisco?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> So my father came over. He was sponsored. My then godfather was already here in San Francisco, so he essentially sponsored my father to come to San Francisco. Shortly after his arrival, he apprentice in the laundry business in San Francisco, Chinatown, and did that for quite a while. But his path to citizenship was naturalization after his service in World War Two and the United States Army, a very common path for immigrants during that time. And so eventually he opened up his own laundry dry cleaning business, brought my mother here the year before I was born. And so I do have four sisters and one brother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Wow. And so this was a laundromat on the west side. And I know you helped them. I think all of you guys did. But it sounds like your affinity for numbers came early through that that experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Well, you know, the best employees of a family business are the kids, right? And so I think each of us had a had a role. I was particularly facile with numbers. And so my father, I remember of the end of every week, we’d figure out, you know, what our bills were. He’d hand me all the receipts of the week in a cigar box, and I had to kind of figure out how much money we had. But I also began to negotiate with vendors when I was at a young age, probably about seven or eight years old, how to get a good price on supplies that we needed. And the banking, at the end of the year, another cigar box approached me with tax forms and they were Board of Equalization forms, I had no idea what they were. Follow the instructions, file them and who knew decades later, I’d become a member of the board hearing tax appeals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And hopefully not dealing with cigar boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> No\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> You had receipts at that point. But you got into politics in a way, when you were quite young, 13 years old. Yes. And there was an issue in your neighborhood about busing. Your younger sister was going to be bused under a policy that was being proposed. And you stood up at the school district hearing to advocate against bussing. Tell us how you got to that microphone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. I was 13 years old at the time, and as I always recall the story, I’m happy I’m sitting down because I remember the moment I was so nervous. I had never spoken publicly before. But the four Chinese-American families, who all were small business owners in the neighborhood, came to my father and said, ‘We would like your daughter to attend the town hall meeting of the school board,’ which was at the elementary school two blocks away, walking distance from my family’s business, and to essentially make a statement about the bussing program, which essentially says, we are small business owners, our children are able to walk to school today. If anything should happen to them, if they’re bused across the city, we would have to shut down our business. We’d lose a day of livelihood. It would take us well over 2 hours to be on public transportation, to pick up our children and bring them home. And none of us drive. And so we don’t oppose the goals of the busing program. But could we use that money just to improve the quality of all of the schools in San Francisco? And so I made that statement. I got up, made that statement and went back to my seat in the auditorium. And of course, we know that the busing program lasted that the better part of the next three decades. But everything was fine. Nothing happened to my sister and my siblings after her. But it was a moment that just stayed with me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well this was over desegregation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Yes, exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I mean, the idea was to make schools more equitable and more diverse. And this is an issue that continues, this debate. I’m curious, like as a staunch member of the Democratic Party, do you see the issue any differently now than you did as a kid at 13?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> You know, it’s interesting. I’m a product of San Francisco public schools. I went to Lowell high school, and I always thought, even as I was growing up and to this day, why were we never just trying to create more Lowell high schools, you know, just throughout the city? You know, we’ve got this crazy competitive process, you know, for everyone to get into the one of the top college prep schools. But yet, you know, we could have at the same time just created more of those to have more opportunities for students. You know, I would say, you know, the bssing program at that time was about a family hardship. I personally support busing programs. I think the earlier we can have young people just be able to understand, you know, the diversity of, you know, our society and to be able to just learn and play and grow with them is a beautiful thing. And I think probably would deepen just so much of the understanding across communities that is so lacking today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> I’m curious, you know, sometimes when you have these big cultural issues come to the fore, I’m thinking about same sex marriage, you know, And the opponents said, you know, if we let gay couples marry, the sky is going to fall, is going to ruin this, that and the other thing, and lo and behold, it didn’t. Right. And I’m wondering, so did the things that you said when you stood up that day come to pass in terms of your family? Did they have to close the business? Or was that maybe a little easier, turned out to be a little easier than you thought?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> It turned out to be easier. I mean, I think a lot of it was just the unknown. And really, when you have the convenience of an elementary school two blocks away, walking distance. I mean, my younger sister, I remember, actually got lost walking home from school one day. And so what could happen possibly when she’s across the city?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And so did she go to Visitation Valley ultimately?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> She did, she did, yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Interesting. So you I mean, you say that that was kind of a political awakening for you. You go on to U.C. Berkeley for undergrad, then Golden Gate University. But I know your college student experience was kind of interrupted in a way when your father became ill. Talk about that. And like, how what did that change? It must have been a very different experience for you than a lot of your peers at that time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Definitely. And even when I was going to Berkeley, I commuted every day. I worked to essentially put myself through school. And you know what was really unfortunate, my father became ill with kidney failure when I was a junior at Cal, and I had to move back home. So each of us, the siblings, took on various responsibilities. A couple of my sisters kept the business going with my mother. I was responsible for taking him to dialysis three times a week at UCSF, and we all coordinated his therapies. But he ended up living for another five years before he passed away, but fairly young in his early sixties. And so this created a situation where my mother decided to continue the business and eventually shut it down. I know one of my sisters wanted to take it over but she just was adamant, you know, ‘My father and I did not sacrifice to have you all be able to get to college and for you to run to run a laundry and dry cleaning business after.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Very immigrant mom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Right, exactly. But what changed about all of that was just really having to navigate so many things for my father’s health care. Understanding, you know, all of the health benefits, Social Security, disability, looking at how to be an advocate in terms of just being sure that his care was the best that he could get. And also understanding that, you know, in terms of just keeping the business going, we came to a point of where, you know, people weren’t like really coming to dry cleaners a lot anymore. And so really seeing kind of the nature of the business declining over time as well. And he was known, by the way, as finishing men’s shirts. So when he wasn’t there to finish men’s shirts anymore, I think that, you know, there was something that just kind of went by the wayside without his talent still in place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> If you’re just joining us, you’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED. I’m Scott Shafer here with Marissa Vargas. We’re talking with Betty Yee, former state Controller, who is now working with the Cal Democratic Party, running for governor in 2026. You know, you’re talking about your dad’s health problems and one of your early jobs was in public health in Santa Cruz County, and you got involved with HIV AIDS. How did you make that pivot? [\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Sure. After graduate school at Golden Gate University, I really wanted to be in a smaller community to look and see whether I could have more impact. And I was very attracted to women’s health issues. And Santa Cruz County, particularly Santa Cruz city, had a very strong women’s health collective. So I moved down there, did a lot of work with them, and the women’s committee was quite integrated, to where we had dealt with issues of fiscal health, certainly public health, domestic violence, mental health, all of that was just one really integrated community of service providers. One of the members of the Board of Supervisors always selected his member of the County Public Health Commission from the women’s health community. So I was selected by then supervisor Gary Patton to sit on the Public Health Commission. I believe we were the first county to write an anti-smoking ordinance for the unincorporated areas of the county, this was back in the mid-1980s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And also when the HIV AIDS epidemic broke, we really were at a loss about what to do. We didn’t know anything about treatment at the time, but certainly wanted to get information out to as many communities as possible. And I was tasked to go to Sacramento and bring home some public health dollars for the county for HIV AIDS purposes. I went to Sacramento as a Senate fellow, and did my fellowship with the Senate Health and Human Services Committee and was appalled at what I saw in terms of very, actually no women and very few, I could count on less than one hand, staff of from our diverse communities who are advising our legislators about funding for for health issues. And so I decided I wanted to stay after my fellowship and change that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And you never left, Kind of. I know you lived in the Bay Area. But I do wonder I mean, you talk about the lack of diversity there. I mean, that’s even more so, I would imagine, in the finance sort of sector of public policy. So you end up working for both the legislature on fiscal policy and then Governor Gray Davis. I mean, obviously, that played to your strengths. But were you also attracted by the fact that you could kind of be a trailblazer in those places?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> I would say yes to some extent, but I also wanted to change the landscape. So I’m happy to say today it looks very, very different. I think Californians would be pleased to hear that their committees are well-represented, not just in their elected officials, but certainly among the staff who are advising our electeds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> You did work for Governor Gray Davis, who, of course, was recalled, replaced by Arnold Schwarzenegger. He had been state comptroller before that and, you know, before he was lieutenant governor. Did he advise you? Did you ask him about running for state Controller? What were you going to say?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I was going to say, did he take your advice at all? But that’s a whole other question. Start with Scott’s question.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Well, first of all, let me say I have a very deep fondness for for Governor Davis, who I believe when history looks back at his tenure as governor, we’ll see that we did some really wonderful things for the state of California. You know, for Governor Davis. I did Secret Service in terms of Controller. You know, my discipline has been in finance. And so he was very encouraging. Certainly thought being state Controller was one of the best statewide offices because you really had the ability to elevate the public’s trust and confidence in their government. You know, this is a fiscal watchdog, financial watchdog position. So to the extent that you do that job well and give the public a sense that somebody is, you know, watching over our finances and our fiscal house, that just has, you know, a really good connection with what the public generally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> I mean, on the other hand, I kind of allude to this, but, you know, he was recalled, I think, largely because of the energy crisis. But I think in hindsight, there’s a lot of criticisms of the way he oversaw the budget. There’s a sense that he over promised to unions. You know, Schwarzenegger inherited a really dismal budget deficit. Was he listening to you? Like what? What did he do differently than what you were advising?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> You know, I think it’s always, you know, the devil’s in the details with respect to how budgets put together. Look, there was a lot of legislative pressure. Prior to Governor Davis, we had, you know, governor, Pete Wilson. So a lot of pent up frustration in terms of what some of the constituencies were not able to get during those years with Governor Wilson in office. And so I think Governor Davis, you know, did the best he could relative to negotiations. As his budget director and adviser, I always say fiscal prudence is never an unpopular thing. So, you know, always reminding him that, you know, this is a good place to be. But at the end of the day, to get a budget, these were protracted budgets. You remember during those years where you didn’t have a budget —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well and you needed a two-thirds, it was a much different process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Well and full disclosure, I was working for him when he was the state Controller at that time and they were issuing IOUs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> That’s right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> And he and Wilson did not get along. And I think, you know, now that I can say this now, he was, I think, using that to elevate himself, that conflict. And I’m wondering, you know, what did you learn observing that in terms of how different constitutional officers get together or should get along or not?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> I wish there could be more collaboration, frankly. We are independently elected constitutional offices, but I certainly view the role of the Controller as being very pivotal to just the entire operation of the state. We’re a high production office. We have the ability to look out at just any kind of economic risks that could be hitting California. Certainly from a cash flow perspective, when we might run into trouble. And look, I was proactive, always advised, you know, the executive branch, the governor’s office, whenever we saw anything. But I think there could have been more collaboration because, you know, we are the ones that really understand how to, you know, just push money out the door. And certainly, you know, when the pandemic hit, I think there was a bit more collaboration, but it could have been much deeper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, you mentioned pushing money out the door. As I said at the top, you’re running for governor. You want to pick how to spend that money. When you ran for Controller, you talked a lot about tax reform and the idea that we do need to at least tweak our system so that it’s less reliant on the top 1%. Of course, that means the other 99% probably would pay more. Talk about your vision for the state. If you do become governor, what you know, what would you like to see done? Understanding you won’t be empress but you could try.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> The tax system is I mean, we have it, we’re living with it, I will say the one reform that has really helped us tremendously is the voter approval of a rainy day fund. Frankly, if we didn’t have that at the beginning of the pandemic, we probably would have had to do some pretty expensive borrowing. So we’re very grateful for the voters wisdom in that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But also, when you look at other states in terms of, you know, just fiscal stability, I think the mix of taxes is really important. You know, obviously we have Prop 13, which capped the local property tax. But the mix from the perspective that, you know, when you have such reliance on upper income earners who and there’s been a lot of stories about many of them leaving California. But we’re also still getting new people coming into California. So from a tax perspective, close to being a wash. But I think the more that we see affordability issues here, we are going to see more Californians leaving. So sales tax, we’ve talked a lot about how being one of the few large states that does not tax services and that is real money. I mean, that is money that could actually come in on a pretty regular basis. Example of that, you go take your car in for repair. You pay for tax on the parts, but not on the service. And that could generate, you know, quite quite a quite a chunk of change,\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Although a lot of the states, I would guess, that have that tax don’t have other taxes, like some states don’t have income tax for example. So I mean you’re talking about adding yet more tax on a, you know, somewhat high tax burden states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Well but it’s also about the what you do on the spending side too. But relative to the just kind of the tax sources and the mix of taxes I think that it actually could result in hopefully a decrease in some tax rates on the income tax side so that we can have the sales tax really be more reflective of, you know, what’s really happening on the economy. You know, on the spending side, I would say, look, I was comptroller, did audits, you know, uncovered a lot over my eight years, about $7.3 billion of public funds that were directed to unallowed uses. And there’s more there had we had more time and resources to uncover that there was always waste. It’s not fraud. It’s just that’s part of the system. And so we have to root that out. And we also know that from a tax perspective that there are those who are going to continue to not be compliant. And so to the extent that we can add, you know, more resources to have to work with taxpayers to become compliant, that is to the good for the long term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> Well, you’re running in 2026 and before then we have just this little election next year. I’m curious, you know, the California Democratic Party is seen as to the left of even some Democrats in California. How do you see kind of approaching that? Do you think there needs to be any change in the way that the party operates? And and how are you thinking about heading into this election year?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Yeah, you know, I think there has been a change in how the party operates. So we have invested in what we call year round organizing. So we are engaging Democrats, the 10 million plus Democrats in the state, year round now instead of just months ahead of an election. And the reason we do that is because we actually get informed by the voters and Democrats about what’s top of mind for them. That helps us then begin to, you know, message how we are going to have our endorsed candidates pay attention to these issues. And and so that has been really, I think, a game changer that this organizing isn’t around election, it’s around being able to really live the values of being Democrats in California. And so whether it’s health care, whether it’s housing affordability, you know, whatever the issue is, we are hearing pretty common themes across all of California. But in certain areas of California, even more dire issues around water and, you know, other top of mind issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> We noted at the top that California’s never had a female governor like so many states have had. There’s a Eleni Kounalakis the lieutenant governor, also running. There’ll be plenty of time to debate the differences. But why do you think there hasn’t been a woman governor in California? And what difference would it make to have one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> As with any office, including governor, you know, women, and this really speaks to, you know, how women professionally have not had the deep networks. You know, these are races that cost tens of millions of dollars. And so to have the deep networks, to be able to fundraise, to be viable as a candidate statewide, I think has been definitely a barrier. But I also think that has changed. We are now running with a sense of maturity in terms of, you know, those networks being much more robust. I also think that given the issues of the day, particularly as it relates to reproductive rights and just so many of these critical social issues, you know, the women’s voice is really important. And so and when you look at the electorate, over half are women. And so I think it’s high time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> All right. We are going to leave it there. That is former comptroller and 2026 governor candidate. Betty Yee thanks for coming in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Betty Yee:\u003c/strong> Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> That will do it for this edition of Political Breakdown. We are a production of KQED Public Radio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong> Our engineer today is Christopher Beale, Guy Marzorati is our producer. I’m Scott Shafer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/strong> And I’m Marisa Lagos. We’ll see you next time.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11958502/betty-yee-on-a-lifetime-of-running-the-numbers","authors":["3239","255"],"programs":["news_33544"],"categories":["news_8","news_33520"],"tags":["news_6390","news_22235"],"featImg":"news_11958513","label":"source_news_11958502"},"news_144208":{"type":"posts","id":"news_144208","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"144208","score":null,"sort":[1407481281000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"lawmakers-consider-automatic-recounts-in-california-elections","title":"Lawmakers Consider Automatic Recounts in California Elections","publishDate":1407481281,"format":"aside","headTitle":"News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_45928\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2011/11/ballot-being-cast-in-box-getty-300x300.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-45928\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2011/11/ballot-being-cast-in-box-getty-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"(David McNew/Getty Images)\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(David McNew/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>To hear Kevin Mullin tell it, this summer's saga in the race for state controller was the first time even he -- a sitting assemblymember -- realized just how antiquated and unfair California election law is when it comes to recounting votes in razor-thin races.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That really opened my eyes to how undemocratic our process is and how potentially chaotic,\" said Mullin (D-South San Francisco).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday Mullin introduced legislation to create a process for an automatic statewide recount in California -- something other states have, and something supporters say will make clear just how and when to tally votes a second time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It strikes me as a fundamental fairness question,\" Mullin said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/162281078&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mullin's newly amended \u003ca href=\"http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/13-14/bill/asm/ab_2151-2200/ab_2194_bill_20140806_status.html\" target=\"_blank\">Assembly Bill 2194\u003c/a> would require an automatic recount of all ballots in a statewide race -- including ballot measures -- if the gap between winning and losing sides is less than one-tenth of one percent of the votes that each side received. In a June primary election, the automatic recount would apply to candidates who appear to have placed second and third ... the third place vote-getter, of course, being the one who misses making the fall ballot under California's top-two primary system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Had AB 2194 been in effect this year, \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/07/18/perez-ends-recall-concedes-controllers-race-to-yee/\" target=\"_blank\">the margin between Betty Yee and John Pérez\u003c/a> of 481 votes would have easily triggered an automatic recount, as would have happened for any gap smaller than 1,756 votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/automatic-recount-thresholds.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">Data compiled by the National Conference of State Legislatures shows that 20 states plus the District of Columbia have some sort of automatic recount standard\u003c/a>. But the threshold for a recount varies. Many base it on votes cast, while some like Michigan set a hard standard of races where the margin of victory is 2,000 votes or less.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">\"It strikes me as a fundamental fairness question.\" -- Assemblymember Kevin Mullin (D-South San Francisco) \u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>(Almost all states, as the data shows, allow a losing candidate or concerned voters to request -- and pay for -- a recount of votes. That's the existing standard in California, too.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In multicandidate elections, the standard set in Mullin's new legislation likely means a pretty narrow gap. But in a race where there are only two candidates -- which is the system California now uses for general elections -- and in ballot measure races, the gap could actually be much larger and still trigger an automatic recount. That's because only two choices -- two candidates or \"yes\" and \"no\" in propositions -- split all the votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The 2012 election had 13.2 million voters,\" said Karen Rhea, chief deputy registrar of voters for Kern County, looking back at California's election two years ago. \"So that would have been [under the proposed legislation] 13,200 votes that would have triggered a recount.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And would enough votes really have been incorrectly counted for a gap of that size to disappear? Consider this: When Rhea and her Kern County colleagues recounted votes in the controller's race \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/07/06/recount-begins-of-votes-for-state-controller/\" target=\"_blank\">as part of a formal request filed by Pérez last month\u003c/a>, they tallied almost 38,000 ballots a second time. The totals changed by only two votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Others with gaps that look small in percentage but large in raw numbers, have also come up short. Backers of \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2012/07/proposition-29-california-tobacco-tax-backers-seek-recount-after-razor-thin-loss.html\" target=\"_blank\">a 2012 tobacco tax initiative requested a recount\u003c/a>, and then stopped it, after election results showed their proposal losing by about 29,000 votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's important,that the [automatic recount] thresholds that are put in place acknowledge that we do a pretty good job counting ballots,\" Rhea said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recounting ballots are especially tricky when it comes to the calendar. June's recount in the controller's race was on track to bleed deep into the general election calendar when Pérez pulled the plug. A recount in November could, depending on how it's done and whether warring sides mounted legal challenges, could come close to the time a candidate is actually scheduled to assume the office he or she thinks they've won. Observers point back to \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000\" target=\"_blank\">the historic presidential cliffhanger in 2000, which didn't end until the middle of December\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recounts also cost money. Mullin says a statewide recount under his proposal could cost $1.9 million, a cost the bill says -- but does not mandate -- should be borne by the state, not individual counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It strikes me as a fundamental fairness question,\" Mullin said. \"In terms of voter confidence, there is a rationale for the taxpayers -- the state government -- intervening and saying, 'We will pay for a statewide, state-funded recount.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether the Legislature can tackle in its final month the complicated questions that underlie the pretty simple premise of a recount remains to be seen. Elections officials in some counties have suggested the issue be considered in detail in 2015 and that lawmakers not rush to change the state's recount law in these final few weeks of the legislative session.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mullin's reaction: Even incremental changes that have to be added to in 2015 are better than the existing system if November produces some kind of electoral cliffhanger. As such, his bill has an urgency clause -- which requires a supermajority vote in each house -- so that it may take effect immediately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don’t want to defer action, because the only urgency, at that point, is the 2018 statewide election cycle,\" Mullin said. \"I don't want to wait that long.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Does California need a law requiring an automatic recount in close statewide elections?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1407515633,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":913},"headData":{"title":"Lawmakers Consider Automatic Recounts in California Elections | KQED","description":"Does California need a law requiring an automatic recount in close statewide elections?","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Lawmakers Consider Automatic Recounts in California Elections","datePublished":"2014-08-08T07:01:21.000Z","dateModified":"2014-08-08T16:33:53.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"144208 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=144208","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/08/08/lawmakers-consider-automatic-recounts-in-california-elections/","disqusTitle":"Lawmakers Consider Automatic Recounts in California Elections","path":"/news/144208/lawmakers-consider-automatic-recounts-in-california-elections","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_45928\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2011/11/ballot-being-cast-in-box-getty-300x300.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-45928\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2011/11/ballot-being-cast-in-box-getty-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"(David McNew/Getty Images)\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(David McNew/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>To hear Kevin Mullin tell it, this summer's saga in the race for state controller was the first time even he -- a sitting assemblymember -- realized just how antiquated and unfair California election law is when it comes to recounting votes in razor-thin races.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That really opened my eyes to how undemocratic our process is and how potentially chaotic,\" said Mullin (D-South San Francisco).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday Mullin introduced legislation to create a process for an automatic statewide recount in California -- something other states have, and something supporters say will make clear just how and when to tally votes a second time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It strikes me as a fundamental fairness question,\" Mullin said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/162281078&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mullin's newly amended \u003ca href=\"http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/13-14/bill/asm/ab_2151-2200/ab_2194_bill_20140806_status.html\" target=\"_blank\">Assembly Bill 2194\u003c/a> would require an automatic recount of all ballots in a statewide race -- including ballot measures -- if the gap between winning and losing sides is less than one-tenth of one percent of the votes that each side received. In a June primary election, the automatic recount would apply to candidates who appear to have placed second and third ... the third place vote-getter, of course, being the one who misses making the fall ballot under California's top-two primary system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Had AB 2194 been in effect this year, \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/07/18/perez-ends-recall-concedes-controllers-race-to-yee/\" target=\"_blank\">the margin between Betty Yee and John Pérez\u003c/a> of 481 votes would have easily triggered an automatic recount, as would have happened for any gap smaller than 1,756 votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/automatic-recount-thresholds.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">Data compiled by the National Conference of State Legislatures shows that 20 states plus the District of Columbia have some sort of automatic recount standard\u003c/a>. But the threshold for a recount varies. Many base it on votes cast, while some like Michigan set a hard standard of races where the margin of victory is 2,000 votes or less.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">\"It strikes me as a fundamental fairness question.\" -- Assemblymember Kevin Mullin (D-South San Francisco) \u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>(Almost all states, as the data shows, allow a losing candidate or concerned voters to request -- and pay for -- a recount of votes. That's the existing standard in California, too.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In multicandidate elections, the standard set in Mullin's new legislation likely means a pretty narrow gap. But in a race where there are only two candidates -- which is the system California now uses for general elections -- and in ballot measure races, the gap could actually be much larger and still trigger an automatic recount. That's because only two choices -- two candidates or \"yes\" and \"no\" in propositions -- split all the votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The 2012 election had 13.2 million voters,\" said Karen Rhea, chief deputy registrar of voters for Kern County, looking back at California's election two years ago. \"So that would have been [under the proposed legislation] 13,200 votes that would have triggered a recount.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And would enough votes really have been incorrectly counted for a gap of that size to disappear? Consider this: When Rhea and her Kern County colleagues recounted votes in the controller's race \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/07/06/recount-begins-of-votes-for-state-controller/\" target=\"_blank\">as part of a formal request filed by Pérez last month\u003c/a>, they tallied almost 38,000 ballots a second time. The totals changed by only two votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Others with gaps that look small in percentage but large in raw numbers, have also come up short. Backers of \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2012/07/proposition-29-california-tobacco-tax-backers-seek-recount-after-razor-thin-loss.html\" target=\"_blank\">a 2012 tobacco tax initiative requested a recount\u003c/a>, and then stopped it, after election results showed their proposal losing by about 29,000 votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's important,that the [automatic recount] thresholds that are put in place acknowledge that we do a pretty good job counting ballots,\" Rhea said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recounting ballots are especially tricky when it comes to the calendar. June's recount in the controller's race was on track to bleed deep into the general election calendar when Pérez pulled the plug. A recount in November could, depending on how it's done and whether warring sides mounted legal challenges, could come close to the time a candidate is actually scheduled to assume the office he or she thinks they've won. Observers point back to \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000\" target=\"_blank\">the historic presidential cliffhanger in 2000, which didn't end until the middle of December\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Recounts also cost money. Mullin says a statewide recount under his proposal could cost $1.9 million, a cost the bill says -- but does not mandate -- should be borne by the state, not individual counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It strikes me as a fundamental fairness question,\" Mullin said. \"In terms of voter confidence, there is a rationale for the taxpayers -- the state government -- intervening and saying, 'We will pay for a statewide, state-funded recount.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether the Legislature can tackle in its final month the complicated questions that underlie the pretty simple premise of a recount remains to be seen. Elections officials in some counties have suggested the issue be considered in detail in 2015 and that lawmakers not rush to change the state's recount law in these final few weeks of the legislative session.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mullin's reaction: Even incremental changes that have to be added to in 2015 are better than the existing system if November produces some kind of electoral cliffhanger. As such, his bill has an urgency clause -- which requires a supermajority vote in each house -- so that it may take effect immediately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don’t want to defer action, because the only urgency, at that point, is the 2018 statewide election cycle,\" Mullin said. \"I don't want to wait that long.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/144208/lawmakers-consider-automatic-recounts-in-california-elections","authors":["232"],"programs":["news_6944"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_6390","news_6310","news_1052","news_6747"],"featImg":"news_45928","label":"news_6944"},"news_142151":{"type":"posts","id":"news_142151","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"142151","score":null,"sort":[1405697456000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"recount-in-state-controllers-race-headed-to-second-week","title":"Recount in State Controller's Race Headed to Second Week","publishDate":1405697456,"format":"aside","headTitle":"California Election Watch 2014 | News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_128760\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 1536px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/03/RS3925_votedhands20121102.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-128760 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/03/RS3925_votedhands20121102.jpg\" alt=\"(Brendan Smialowski/Getty Images)\" width=\"1536\" height=\"1025\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(Brendan Smialowski/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The historic recount of votes cast in the race for state controller will enter its second week on Monday, with the candidate who's asking for a second look still moving forward with the process — and refusing calls by some of his fellow Democrats to call it quits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elections officials in San Bernardino County agreed on Thursday to take a second look at votes in the race, as requested by former Assembly Speaker John Pérez. It will be the third county whose \u003ca href=\"http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/recount/state-controller-recount.htm\" target=\"_blank\">votes have been retabulated\u003c/a> as Pérez seeks to make up the June 3 election gap of 481 votes with fellow Democrat Betty Yee, a member of the state Board of Equalization.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee, unless the certified results are overturned, will face Republican Ashley Swearengin, the mayor of Fresno, on Nov. 4. Pérez has asked for as many as 15 counties to recount their votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'This is a legitimate and historic recount. We should continue it.'\u003ccite>— Doug Herman,\u003cbr>\nPérez campaign consultant\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\"We'd like to speed this thing up,\" said Doug Herman, campaign consultant to Pérez on Thursday evening. That may include a recount by machine, rather than continuing the tally by hand, of the remaining votes in Kern County — one of the first two counties that Pérez asked to take another look.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the count so far has not discovered the votes Pérez needs to change the expected outcome. Parke Skelton, the campaign consultant for Betty Yee, sends emails to reporters daily with a running tally. He estimates that Pérez has, at best, picked up just two or three votes through almost the first full week of the recount.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Despite his spectacular lack of success in Imperial and Kern counties,\" wrote Skelton Thursday in an email to reporters, \"John Pérez has decided to move the traveling recall [sic] show into San Bernardino County.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pérez has been \u003ca href=\"http://www.sacbee.com/2014/07/15/6555863/viewpoints-perez-should-pull-plug.html\" target=\"_blank\">under pressure by some Democrats to end the recount process\u003c/a>, but his political advisers say that it's reasonable to make sure the votes are counted as they've been cast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is a legitimate and historic recount,\" said Herman in a phone interview. \"We should continue it.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Review of ballots cast will enter its second week with very little change from June 3 election results.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1413320569,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":10,"wordCount":386},"headData":{"title":"Recount in State Controller's Race Headed to Second Week | KQED","description":"Review of ballots cast will enter its second week with very little change from June 3 election results.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Recount in State Controller's Race Headed to Second Week","datePublished":"2014-07-18T15:30:56.000Z","dateModified":"2014-10-14T21:02:49.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"142151 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=142151","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/07/18/recount-in-state-controllers-race-headed-to-second-week/","disqusTitle":"Recount in State Controller's Race Headed to Second Week","customPermalink":"2014/07/18/state-controller-recount-continues/","path":"/news/142151/recount-in-state-controllers-race-headed-to-second-week","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_128760\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 1536px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/03/RS3925_votedhands20121102.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-128760 size-full\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/03/RS3925_votedhands20121102.jpg\" alt=\"(Brendan Smialowski/Getty Images)\" width=\"1536\" height=\"1025\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(Brendan Smialowski/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The historic recount of votes cast in the race for state controller will enter its second week on Monday, with the candidate who's asking for a second look still moving forward with the process — and refusing calls by some of his fellow Democrats to call it quits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elections officials in San Bernardino County agreed on Thursday to take a second look at votes in the race, as requested by former Assembly Speaker John Pérez. It will be the third county whose \u003ca href=\"http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/recount/state-controller-recount.htm\" target=\"_blank\">votes have been retabulated\u003c/a> as Pérez seeks to make up the June 3 election gap of 481 votes with fellow Democrat Betty Yee, a member of the state Board of Equalization.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee, unless the certified results are overturned, will face Republican Ashley Swearengin, the mayor of Fresno, on Nov. 4. Pérez has asked for as many as 15 counties to recount their votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'This is a legitimate and historic recount. We should continue it.'\u003ccite>— Doug Herman,\u003cbr>\nPérez campaign consultant\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\"We'd like to speed this thing up,\" said Doug Herman, campaign consultant to Pérez on Thursday evening. That may include a recount by machine, rather than continuing the tally by hand, of the remaining votes in Kern County — one of the first two counties that Pérez asked to take another look.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the count so far has not discovered the votes Pérez needs to change the expected outcome. Parke Skelton, the campaign consultant for Betty Yee, sends emails to reporters daily with a running tally. He estimates that Pérez has, at best, picked up just two or three votes through almost the first full week of the recount.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Despite his spectacular lack of success in Imperial and Kern counties,\" wrote Skelton Thursday in an email to reporters, \"John Pérez has decided to move the traveling recall [sic] show into San Bernardino County.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pérez has been \u003ca href=\"http://www.sacbee.com/2014/07/15/6555863/viewpoints-perez-should-pull-plug.html\" target=\"_blank\">under pressure by some Democrats to end the recount process\u003c/a>, but his political advisers say that it's reasonable to make sure the votes are counted as they've been cast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is a legitimate and historic recount,\" said Herman in a phone interview. \"We should continue it.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/142151/recount-in-state-controllers-race-headed-to-second-week","authors":["232"],"programs":["news_6944"],"series":["news_6304"],"categories":["news_13"],"tags":["news_6390","news_1052","news_4969"],"featImg":"news_128760","label":"news_6944"},"news_141200":{"type":"posts","id":"news_141200","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"141200","score":null,"sort":[1404681685000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"recount-of-votes-will-begin-monday-in-controllers-race","title":"Pérez Launching Recount in State Controller's Race","publishDate":1404681685,"format":"aside","headTitle":"California Election Watch 2014 | News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_97179\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/05/Speaker_081.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-97179\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/05/Speaker_081-640x426.jpg\" alt=\"Assembly Speaker John A. Pérez (Max Whittaker/Prime) \" width=\"640\" height=\"426\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Assembly Speaker John A. Pérez (Max Whittaker/Prime)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get ready for even more political drama in the closest statewide election in modern California history: a recount of votes cast for state controller that could cost as much as $3 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former Assembly speaker John Pérez (D-Los Angeles) has decided to request, and pay for, a recount of votes in as many as 15 California counties — an effort to see whether he came in third on June 3 behind fellow Democrat Betty Yee ... or not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Never in California history has the vote difference between two candidates for statewide office been so narrow,” said Pérez in a written statement on Sunday afternoon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is therefore of the utmost importance that an additional, carefully conducted review of the ballots be undertaken to ensure that every vote is counted, as intended.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pérez \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/06/30/Yee-Squeaks-Past-Perez-for-controller\" target=\"_blank\">missed the second and final spot on the fall ballot by 481 votes in the last tallies reported less than a week ago\u003c/a>. If those numbers hold, Yee will face Republican \u003ca href=\"http://www.ashleyforca.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Ashley Swearengin\u003c/a>, the incumbent mayor of Fresno, on Nov. 4. Swearengin won more than 1 million votes in \u003ca href=\"http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/controller/\" target=\"_blank\">the last count of ballots\u003c/a>, more than any candidate in the race to be California's next chief fiscal officer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pérez’s decision means that beginning on Monday, local elections officials will take another look at ballots in Kern; Imperial; San Bernardino; Fresno; San Mateo; Orange; Ventura; Los Angeles; Riverside; Stanislaus; Tulare; Napa; Kings; Lake; and Merced counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"http://www.scribd.com/doc/232803584/John-Perez-Asks-for-Recount\" target=\"_blank\">Read the formal recount letter sent to Secretary of State Debra Bowen by John Pérez on Sunday.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parke Skelton, the top campaign consultant to Betty Yee, called the decision by Pérez one that could drag the process out for months — suggesting Yee may also ask for a second look.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"No recount is going to be fair that doesn't include more counties,\" said Skelton by phone Sunday afternoon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unlike other states, there's no automatic recount provision in California law. Any member of the public, including a candidate, can request a recount within five days of the final canvass of votes, provided he or she pay for it. The decision by Pérez comes right at the final deadline for a request, with Secretary of State Debra Bowen poised to formally certify the state’s June primary results in a matter of days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state’s recount provisions are relatively loose, in that the choice of which votes to tally a second time are chosen by the person who’s paying — individual precincts to entire counties are all subject to recount if someone has the money and inclination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A campaign adviser to Pérez says the 481-vote gap between the two prominent Democrats is within the “statistical margin of error” for the machines that tally paper ballots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, recounts can be a costly process that produce few — if any — additional votes. On June 25, just hours after it began, a GOP congressional candidate in the Inland Empire \u003ca href=\"http://www.scpr.org/news/2014/06/26/44981/gooch-calls-off-recount-in-inland-empire-congressi/\" target=\"_blank\">called off a recount in a squeaker of a race\u003c/a> -- a recount that produced only a single extra vote in her column, for a cost that exceeded $6,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The letter Pérez submitted Sunday afternoon makes clear that the requested recount will go in a specific order, a likely hint that the second tally of votes can stop at any time Pérez wants. It's beginning in places where his vote tally was decidedly higher than that of Yee. A campaign consultant says the cost of the recount will depend on whether votes are re-examined with machines or by hand. The campaign also seeks to take a second look at some vote-by-mail ballots that were disqualified, to see if any of those should be added to the total.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, all of this also exposes one of the quirks of California election law: Other candidates can then begin a recount, too, if they all of a sudden should find themselves knocked out of contention. No effort has materialized at the state Capitol \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2014/07/a-california-law-on-the.html\" target=\"_blank\">to resume efforts at a tighter set of rules for recounts\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Former Assembly speaker to pay as much as $3 million to see if he can reverse a narrow loss in primary.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1413320586,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":17,"wordCount":716},"headData":{"title":"Pérez Launching Recount in State Controller's Race | KQED","description":"Get ready for even more political drama in the closest statewide election in modern California history...","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Pérez Launching Recount in State Controller's Race","datePublished":"2014-07-06T21:21:25.000Z","dateModified":"2014-10-14T21:03:06.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"141200 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=141200","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/07/06/recount-of-votes-will-begin-monday-in-controllers-race/","disqusTitle":"Pérez Launching Recount in State Controller's Race","customPermalink":"2014/07/06/recount-begins-of-votes-for-state-controller/","path":"/news/141200/recount-of-votes-will-begin-monday-in-controllers-race","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_97179\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/05/Speaker_081.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-97179\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/05/Speaker_081-640x426.jpg\" alt=\"Assembly Speaker John A. Pérez (Max Whittaker/Prime) \" width=\"640\" height=\"426\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Assembly Speaker John A. Pérez (Max Whittaker/Prime)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get ready for even more political drama in the closest statewide election in modern California history: a recount of votes cast for state controller that could cost as much as $3 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former Assembly speaker John Pérez (D-Los Angeles) has decided to request, and pay for, a recount of votes in as many as 15 California counties — an effort to see whether he came in third on June 3 behind fellow Democrat Betty Yee ... or not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Never in California history has the vote difference between two candidates for statewide office been so narrow,” said Pérez in a written statement on Sunday afternoon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is therefore of the utmost importance that an additional, carefully conducted review of the ballots be undertaken to ensure that every vote is counted, as intended.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pérez \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/06/30/Yee-Squeaks-Past-Perez-for-controller\" target=\"_blank\">missed the second and final spot on the fall ballot by 481 votes in the last tallies reported less than a week ago\u003c/a>. If those numbers hold, Yee will face Republican \u003ca href=\"http://www.ashleyforca.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Ashley Swearengin\u003c/a>, the incumbent mayor of Fresno, on Nov. 4. Swearengin won more than 1 million votes in \u003ca href=\"http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/controller/\" target=\"_blank\">the last count of ballots\u003c/a>, more than any candidate in the race to be California's next chief fiscal officer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pérez’s decision means that beginning on Monday, local elections officials will take another look at ballots in Kern; Imperial; San Bernardino; Fresno; San Mateo; Orange; Ventura; Los Angeles; Riverside; Stanislaus; Tulare; Napa; Kings; Lake; and Merced counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"http://www.scribd.com/doc/232803584/John-Perez-Asks-for-Recount\" target=\"_blank\">Read the formal recount letter sent to Secretary of State Debra Bowen by John Pérez on Sunday.\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parke Skelton, the top campaign consultant to Betty Yee, called the decision by Pérez one that could drag the process out for months — suggesting Yee may also ask for a second look.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"No recount is going to be fair that doesn't include more counties,\" said Skelton by phone Sunday afternoon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unlike other states, there's no automatic recount provision in California law. Any member of the public, including a candidate, can request a recount within five days of the final canvass of votes, provided he or she pay for it. The decision by Pérez comes right at the final deadline for a request, with Secretary of State Debra Bowen poised to formally certify the state’s June primary results in a matter of days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state’s recount provisions are relatively loose, in that the choice of which votes to tally a second time are chosen by the person who’s paying — individual precincts to entire counties are all subject to recount if someone has the money and inclination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A campaign adviser to Pérez says the 481-vote gap between the two prominent Democrats is within the “statistical margin of error” for the machines that tally paper ballots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, recounts can be a costly process that produce few — if any — additional votes. On June 25, just hours after it began, a GOP congressional candidate in the Inland Empire \u003ca href=\"http://www.scpr.org/news/2014/06/26/44981/gooch-calls-off-recount-in-inland-empire-congressi/\" target=\"_blank\">called off a recount in a squeaker of a race\u003c/a> -- a recount that produced only a single extra vote in her column, for a cost that exceeded $6,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The letter Pérez submitted Sunday afternoon makes clear that the requested recount will go in a specific order, a likely hint that the second tally of votes can stop at any time Pérez wants. It's beginning in places where his vote tally was decidedly higher than that of Yee. A campaign consultant says the cost of the recount will depend on whether votes are re-examined with machines or by hand. The campaign also seeks to take a second look at some vote-by-mail ballots that were disqualified, to see if any of those should be added to the total.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of course, all of this also exposes one of the quirks of California election law: Other candidates can then begin a recount, too, if they all of a sudden should find themselves knocked out of contention. No effort has materialized at the state Capitol \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2014/07/a-california-law-on-the.html\" target=\"_blank\">to resume efforts at a tighter set of rules for recounts\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/141200/recount-of-votes-will-begin-monday-in-controllers-race","authors":["232"],"programs":["news_6944"],"series":["news_6304"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_6390","news_6310","news_1052","news_4969"],"featImg":"news_97179","label":"news_6944"},"news_140715":{"type":"posts","id":"news_140715","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"140715","score":null,"sort":[1404198097000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"yee-appears-to-edge-perez-in-state-controllers-race","title":"Yee Appears to Have Edged Pérez in Race for State Controller","publishDate":1404198097,"format":"aside","headTitle":"California Election Watch 2014 | News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_140747\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/07/statecontroller.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-140747\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/07/statecontroller-640x235.jpg\" alt=\"Screen capture of the Secretary of State's latest tally in the primary race for state controller. The top two candidates will appear on the November ballot. \" width=\"640\" height=\"235\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Screen capture of the Secretary of State's latest tally in the primary race for state controller. The top two candidates will appear on the November ballot.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Rarely, perhaps never, has the race for second place been so close and so closely watched for a statewide office in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And for now, it appears the slight ... perhaps final ... edge goes to \u003ca href=\"http://bettyyee.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Betty Yee\u003c/a> over fellow Democrat John Pérez.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The apparent win (again, for second place) came after elections officials in rural Lake County, the last county in the state to finish its official count, \u003ca href=\"http://acm.co.lake.ca.us/elections/results/result26.htm#c2030\" target=\"_blank\">reported the tally early Monday evening\u003c/a>. That tally showed Pérez won the county by 1,041 votes -- a good showing, but not a wide enough margin to overtake Yee's previous statewide lead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Monday report from Lake County shows that, pending any other data, \u003ca href=\"http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/controller/\" target=\"_blank\">Yee edged Pérez by a mere 484 votes\u003c/a> out of more than 4 million votes cast in the race for state controller.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The winner of the June primary was Republican \u003ca href=\"http://www.ashleyforca.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Ashley Swearengin\u003c/a>, the incumbent mayor of Fresno. But her place on the ballot was never in question. What has been the source of enormous statewide interest in the almost four weeks since Election Day was who came in second -- the only other candidate, under California's top-two primary system, whose name will appear on the Nov. 4 ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I call upon all Democrats to unite in the effort to hold this vital position,\" said Yee, a longtime member of the state Board of Equalization, in a written statement Monday night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The incumbent, Democrat John Chiang, is stepping aside due to term limits and is one of the two candidates on the fall ballot for the job of state treasurer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But John Pérez, who recently stepped aside as speaker of the state Assembly, isn't conceding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There are still votes to be counted,\" said Pérez's political consultant, Doug Herman, by email Monday night. \"We look forward to the final vote count.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's unclear where the Pérez team believes that votes have been left uncounted. An unofficial report on the website of the Secretary of State shows no county reported outstanding ballots as of last Friday (\u003ca href=\"http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/statewide-elections/2014-primary/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">PDF\u003c/a>).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One thing is for certain: the battle for second place in the controller's race may be the closest contest in California history, and is already the closest in modern times and one of the closest across the nation this election season. But unlike other states, there's no provision for an automatic recount in California election law. Candidates must pay for any recounting of ballots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, the temptation could be very real for a candidate who comes so close to winning a spot on the fall ballot. As political data consultant Paul Mitchell \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/paulmitche11/status/483795327757979649\" target=\"_blank\">noted on Twitter Monday night\u003c/a>, the 484-vote victory by Betty Yee represents a margin of just one-one hundredth of 1 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>John Myers discusses the race with KQED's Mina Kim:\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/156915192&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A duel between Democrats appears to have ended with Betty Yee squeaking past John Pérez by 484 votes.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1404262752,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":508},"headData":{"title":"Yee Appears to Have Edged Pérez in Race for State Controller | KQED","description":"It may be the closest statewide contest in California history. But are there votes still left uncounted? One candidate thinks so.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Yee Appears to Have Edged Pérez in Race for State Controller","datePublished":"2014-07-01T07:01:37.000Z","dateModified":"2014-07-02T00:59:12.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"140715 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=140715","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/07/01/yee-appears-to-edge-perez-in-state-controllers-race/","disqusTitle":"Yee Appears to Have Edged Pérez in Race for State Controller","customPermalink":"2014/06/30/Yee-Squeaks-Past-Perez-for-controller/","path":"/news/140715/yee-appears-to-edge-perez-in-state-controllers-race","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_140747\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/07/statecontroller.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-140747\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/07/statecontroller-640x235.jpg\" alt=\"Screen capture of the Secretary of State's latest tally in the primary race for state controller. The top two candidates will appear on the November ballot. \" width=\"640\" height=\"235\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Screen capture of the Secretary of State's latest tally in the primary race for state controller. The top two candidates will appear on the November ballot.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Rarely, perhaps never, has the race for second place been so close and so closely watched for a statewide office in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And for now, it appears the slight ... perhaps final ... edge goes to \u003ca href=\"http://bettyyee.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Betty Yee\u003c/a> over fellow Democrat John Pérez.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The apparent win (again, for second place) came after elections officials in rural Lake County, the last county in the state to finish its official count, \u003ca href=\"http://acm.co.lake.ca.us/elections/results/result26.htm#c2030\" target=\"_blank\">reported the tally early Monday evening\u003c/a>. That tally showed Pérez won the county by 1,041 votes -- a good showing, but not a wide enough margin to overtake Yee's previous statewide lead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Monday report from Lake County shows that, pending any other data, \u003ca href=\"http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/controller/\" target=\"_blank\">Yee edged Pérez by a mere 484 votes\u003c/a> out of more than 4 million votes cast in the race for state controller.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The winner of the June primary was Republican \u003ca href=\"http://www.ashleyforca.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Ashley Swearengin\u003c/a>, the incumbent mayor of Fresno. But her place on the ballot was never in question. What has been the source of enormous statewide interest in the almost four weeks since Election Day was who came in second -- the only other candidate, under California's top-two primary system, whose name will appear on the Nov. 4 ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I call upon all Democrats to unite in the effort to hold this vital position,\" said Yee, a longtime member of the state Board of Equalization, in a written statement Monday night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The incumbent, Democrat John Chiang, is stepping aside due to term limits and is one of the two candidates on the fall ballot for the job of state treasurer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But John Pérez, who recently stepped aside as speaker of the state Assembly, isn't conceding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There are still votes to be counted,\" said Pérez's political consultant, Doug Herman, by email Monday night. \"We look forward to the final vote count.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's unclear where the Pérez team believes that votes have been left uncounted. An unofficial report on the website of the Secretary of State shows no county reported outstanding ballots as of last Friday (\u003ca href=\"http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/statewide-elections/2014-primary/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">PDF\u003c/a>).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One thing is for certain: the battle for second place in the controller's race may be the closest contest in California history, and is already the closest in modern times and one of the closest across the nation this election season. But unlike other states, there's no provision for an automatic recount in California election law. Candidates must pay for any recounting of ballots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, the temptation could be very real for a candidate who comes so close to winning a spot on the fall ballot. As political data consultant Paul Mitchell \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/paulmitche11/status/483795327757979649\" target=\"_blank\">noted on Twitter Monday night\u003c/a>, the 484-vote victory by Betty Yee represents a margin of just one-one hundredth of 1 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>John Myers discusses the race with KQED's Mina Kim:\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/156915192&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/140715/yee-appears-to-edge-perez-in-state-controllers-race","authors":["232"],"programs":["news_6944"],"series":["news_6304"],"categories":["news_13"],"tags":["news_6390","news_1052","news_4969"],"featImg":"news_117195","label":"news_6944"},"news_138827":{"type":"posts","id":"news_138827","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"138827","score":null,"sort":[1402535328000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"high-drama-in-state-controllers-race-for-second-place","title":"High Drama in State Controller's Race for Second Place","publishDate":1402535328,"format":"aside","headTitle":"California Election Watch 2014 | News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_117107\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/11/sunnydale.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-117107\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/11/sunnydale.jpg\" alt=\" (David McNew/Getty Images)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(David McNew/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update: 6:15 p.m.:\u003c/strong> Betty Yee has overtaken John A. Pérez, again, as of the afternoon update on the vote count. She is currently 2,820 votes ahead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original post:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It may not have the intrigue of hanging chads or mysteriously appearing ballots, but it's the only real statewide drama left from the June 3 primary election: Who won the second and final spot on the fall ballot in the race for state controller?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At various times since the polls closed on Election Night, the answer has been one of three candidates: Republican newcomer David Evans, Democrat and state Board of Equalization member \u003ca href=\"http://bettyyee.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Betty Yee\u003c/a>, or Democrat and former Assembly speaker \u003ca href=\"http://www.perezforcontroller.com/\" target=\"_blank\">John Pérez\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the race is now really down to Yee and Pérez, the two Democrats whose campaign to be California's next chief fiscal officer \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/california+democrats+divided+in+controller+race\" target=\"_blank\">represented a bitter split among a number of party faithful\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This one is a political nail-biter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As of early Wednesday afternoon, \u003ca href=\"http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/controller/\" target=\"_blank\">official records\u003c/a> show Yee ahead of Pérez — after he was ahead for several days — and after she was ahead before that. Yee's lead stood at 3,008 votes, out of more than 3.7 million votes cast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In first place, as she's been since Election Night, is Republican \u003ca href=\"http://www.ashleyforca.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Ashley Swearengin\u003c/a>, the incumbent mayor of Fresno. Swearengin, who has about 25 percent of the vote, is all but assured of one of the two spots on the Nov. 4 statewide ballot. Her GOP challenger Evans — \u003ca href=\"http://www.sacbee.com/2014/06/05/6458734/dan-morain-david-evans-and-his.html\" target=\"_blank\">an accountant and political unknown\u003c/a> who looked to be in second place as the sun rose on June 4 — now appears to be out of the running, as the two Democrats have amassed thousands of votes in the late counting of ballots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With Pérez and Yee swapping turns in second place these past few days, the theories as to who ultimately comes out on top are numerous. Some number crunchers suggest that the counties left with a significant number of uncounted ballots lean the final result toward a win for Yee. But Pérez has been ahead of late and has been boosted by the vote tallying in his home territory, Los Angeles — California's most vote-rich county.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of the roughly 300,000 votes left to count are absentee ballots turned in to elections officials late. But as many as 33,000 uncounted ballots are ones either damaged or marked in a way that machines can't read them. There's no way to know yet how many of those could factor into a race this close.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's another thing to consider: California has no provision in its election law for an automatic recount, some kind of threshold by which a tight race is guaranteed to get a second look. State law allows anyone to ask for a recount as soon as early July, but the request also requires a private citizen or campaign to \u003cem>pay\u003c/em> for that recount.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it wouldn't be cheap; the last time anyone paid for a re-examination of votes was in the summer of 2012, when backers of the Proposition 29 tobacco tax initiative \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2012/07/proposition-29-california-tobacco-tax-backers-seek-recount-after-razor-thin-loss.html\" target=\"_blank\">requested a recount in selected parts of Los Angeles\u003c/a>. The estimated cost at that point: about $5,700 a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even with his fundraising lead in the race, it's doubtful Pérez would have enough cash on hand to mount much of a challenge; Yee would probably have no way to mount such a challenge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which is why the daily, even hourly vote tally is being so closely watched — easily the closest statewide race for office in a long, long time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>3:35 p.m. UPDATE: This story has been updated with new numbers showing Betty Yee overtaking John Pérez's narrow lead. We'll update it as often as possible over the coming hours.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Only a handful of votes separates Democrats Betty Yee and John Pérez in race for a November ballot slot.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1402535389,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":17,"wordCount":666},"headData":{"title":"High Drama in State Controller's Race for Second Place | KQED","description":"Only a handful of votes separates Democrats Betty Yee and John Pérez in race for a November ballot slot.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"High Drama in State Controller's Race for Second Place","datePublished":"2014-06-12T01:08:48.000Z","dateModified":"2014-06-12T01:09:49.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"138827 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=138827","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/06/11/high-drama-in-state-controllers-race-for-second-place/","disqusTitle":"High Drama in State Controller's Race for Second Place","customPermalink":"vote-count-continues-in-california-controller-race/","path":"/news/138827/high-drama-in-state-controllers-race-for-second-place","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_117107\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/11/sunnydale.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-117107\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2013/11/sunnydale.jpg\" alt=\" (David McNew/Getty Images)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(David McNew/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update: 6:15 p.m.:\u003c/strong> Betty Yee has overtaken John A. Pérez, again, as of the afternoon update on the vote count. She is currently 2,820 votes ahead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original post:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It may not have the intrigue of hanging chads or mysteriously appearing ballots, but it's the only real statewide drama left from the June 3 primary election: Who won the second and final spot on the fall ballot in the race for state controller?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At various times since the polls closed on Election Night, the answer has been one of three candidates: Republican newcomer David Evans, Democrat and state Board of Equalization member \u003ca href=\"http://bettyyee.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Betty Yee\u003c/a>, or Democrat and former Assembly speaker \u003ca href=\"http://www.perezforcontroller.com/\" target=\"_blank\">John Pérez\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the race is now really down to Yee and Pérez, the two Democrats whose campaign to be California's next chief fiscal officer \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/california+democrats+divided+in+controller+race\" target=\"_blank\">represented a bitter split among a number of party faithful\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This one is a political nail-biter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As of early Wednesday afternoon, \u003ca href=\"http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/controller/\" target=\"_blank\">official records\u003c/a> show Yee ahead of Pérez — after he was ahead for several days — and after she was ahead before that. Yee's lead stood at 3,008 votes, out of more than 3.7 million votes cast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In first place, as she's been since Election Night, is Republican \u003ca href=\"http://www.ashleyforca.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Ashley Swearengin\u003c/a>, the incumbent mayor of Fresno. Swearengin, who has about 25 percent of the vote, is all but assured of one of the two spots on the Nov. 4 statewide ballot. Her GOP challenger Evans — \u003ca href=\"http://www.sacbee.com/2014/06/05/6458734/dan-morain-david-evans-and-his.html\" target=\"_blank\">an accountant and political unknown\u003c/a> who looked to be in second place as the sun rose on June 4 — now appears to be out of the running, as the two Democrats have amassed thousands of votes in the late counting of ballots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With Pérez and Yee swapping turns in second place these past few days, the theories as to who ultimately comes out on top are numerous. Some number crunchers suggest that the counties left with a significant number of uncounted ballots lean the final result toward a win for Yee. But Pérez has been ahead of late and has been boosted by the vote tallying in his home territory, Los Angeles — California's most vote-rich county.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of the roughly 300,000 votes left to count are absentee ballots turned in to elections officials late. But as many as 33,000 uncounted ballots are ones either damaged or marked in a way that machines can't read them. There's no way to know yet how many of those could factor into a race this close.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There's another thing to consider: California has no provision in its election law for an automatic recount, some kind of threshold by which a tight race is guaranteed to get a second look. State law allows anyone to ask for a recount as soon as early July, but the request also requires a private citizen or campaign to \u003cem>pay\u003c/em> for that recount.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it wouldn't be cheap; the last time anyone paid for a re-examination of votes was in the summer of 2012, when backers of the Proposition 29 tobacco tax initiative \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2012/07/proposition-29-california-tobacco-tax-backers-seek-recount-after-razor-thin-loss.html\" target=\"_blank\">requested a recount in selected parts of Los Angeles\u003c/a>. The estimated cost at that point: about $5,700 a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even with his fundraising lead in the race, it's doubtful Pérez would have enough cash on hand to mount much of a challenge; Yee would probably have no way to mount such a challenge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which is why the daily, even hourly vote tally is being so closely watched — easily the closest statewide race for office in a long, long time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>3:35 p.m. UPDATE: This story has been updated with new numbers showing Betty Yee overtaking John Pérez's narrow lead. We'll update it as often as possible over the coming hours.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/138827/high-drama-in-state-controllers-race-for-second-place","authors":["232"],"programs":["news_6944"],"series":["news_6304"],"categories":["news_13"],"tags":["news_6390","news_1052"],"featImg":"news_128760","label":"news_6944"},"news_137929":{"type":"posts","id":"news_137929","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"137929","score":null,"sort":[1401896708000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"live-updates-statewide-races","title":"Statewide Races: Result in Controller Contest Far From Final","publishDate":1401896708,"format":"aside","headTitle":"California Election Watch 2014 | News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_137934\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-137934\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/06/sos.jpg\" alt=\"Dan Schnur, Alex Padilla and Pete Peterson are among the candidates vying for Secretary of State. (Courtesy photos)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dan Schnur, Alex Padilla and Pete Peterson were among the candidates vying for secretary of state. (Courtesy photos)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, Wednesday 8:45 a.m.:\u003c/strong> Just one of the statewide races has been left undecided: state controller. With 100 percent of the state's precincts counted, Republican Ashley Swearingen, the mayor of Fresno, is in the No. 1 position with 24.4 percent of the vote and will move on to the November general election. And that's where the certainty on the outcome ends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democrats John \u003cspan style=\"color: #222222\">Pérez\u003c/span> and Betty Yee and Republican David Evans are within a few thousand votes of each other. \u003cspan style=\"color: #222222\">Pérez\u003c/span>, an assemblyman and former speaker of the Legislature's lower house, has 21.7 percent of the vote; Evans, a Republican CPA, has 21.6 percent; and Yee, a member of the state Board of Equalization, has 21.5 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, this is where all those uncounted votes from Tuesday — mail-in , provisional and damaged ballots —will come in. Statewide, there are likely hundreds of thousands of them still to be counted. That means it will be a matter of days before we know who will be the No. 2 finisher in the race and make it onto the November ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here are other results for statewide offices from \u003ca href=\"http://vote.sos.ca.gov/\" target=\"_blank\">the Secretary of State\u003c/a>'s Office:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lieutenant Governor\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Gavin Newsom:\u003c/strong> 49.9 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Ron Nehring:\u003c/strong> 23.3 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Secretary of State\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Alex Padilla:\u003c/strong> 30.1 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Pete Peterson:\u003c/strong> 29.6 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Treasurer\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>John Chiang:\u003c/strong> 55.1 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Greg Conlon:\u003c/strong> 38.4 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Attorney General\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Kamala Harris:\u003c/strong> 53.1 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Ronald Gold:\u003c/strong> 12.7 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Insurance Commissioner\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Dave Jones:\u003c/strong> 53.1 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Ted Gaines:\u003c/strong> 41.6 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Superintendent of Public Instruction\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Tom Torlakson:\u003c/strong> 46.9 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Marshall Tuck:\u003c/strong> 28.6 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Lydia Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> 24.4 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, Wednesday 12:30 a.m.: \u003c/strong>With 74 percent of precincts reporting, Tom Torlakson and Marshall Tuck lead the race for superintendent of public instruction with 48 percent and 28 percent of the vote, respectively.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The race for state controller will likely come down to a dramatic finish, as four candidates are within 80,000 votes of each other. Currently, Republicans Ashley Swearengin (24.2 percent) and David Evans (22 percent) are edging out Democrats Betty Yee (21.6 percent) and John \u003cspan style=\"color: #222222\">Pérez\u003c/span> (21.2%). Yee has been chipping away at Evans' lead over the past several hours.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As we mentioned in an earlier update, Democrat Alex Padilla and Republican Pete Peterson will advance to the November ballot. Surprisingly, Democrat Leland Yee, who is facing a federal indictment, received more than a quarter-million votes from around the state and is currently in third place. He even edged out Dan Schnur, who is in fourth place, drawing 9 percent of the vote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, Tuesday 11:30 p.m.:\u003c/strong> The race for superintendent of public instruction was a union-versus-reformers referendum, and the unions made a strong statement that their political power remains strong in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The incumbent, Tom Torlakson, was backed by teacher unions and had nearly 49 percent of the votes. Marshall Tuck, a former charter school operator who wants changes to how teachers are evaluated and when they can be fired, trailed with 27 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The third candidate was Long Beach educator Lydia Gutierrez, a Republican who also ran four years ago. She attracted 24 percent of the votes with a campaign critical of recently enacted national learning benchmarks called Common Core State Standards.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The Associated Press contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, Tuesday, 10:30 p.m.: \u003c/strong>Democrat Alex Padilla and Republican Pete Peterson are headed to the November general election in the race for secretary of state. That result comes after a closely watched primary season where observers thought the race might lean toward two candidates from a single party, or an independent candidate making it to the fall. Leland Yee, the embattled San Francisco legislator who dropped out of the race after a federal indictment was filed against him for an alleged attempt to illegally trade weapons for campaign cash, is currently in third place, commanding about 11 percent of the vote. Dan Schnur, the independent who once was a GOP political consultant, remains a distant fourth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With about 27 percent of precincts reporting in the state controller's race, two Republicans are in the top two places, a potential shutout of both well-known Democrats. Ashley Swearingen, the mayor of Fresno, has 24 percent of the votes tallied. David Evans, a GOP accountant who has neither raised nor spent any campaign funds, has 23 percent of votes. Democrats Betty Yee and John \u003cspan style=\"color: #222222\">Pérez\u003c/span> are close behind, with Yee within striking distance of Evans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original Post:\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nStatewide races, other than the race for governor, rarely get much attention during a primary election, but the new top-two primary rules have changed that in 2014.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Secretary of State\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perhaps most prominent has been the race for secretary of state, California's chief elections officer — a race featuring eight candidates, a corruption scandal and the possibility that an independent candidate could make it onto the November ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in all, the most prominent two candidates — Democrat Alex Padilla and Republican Pete Peterson — have largely been favored to emerge in the top two positions once the voters are counted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"51a9b2fc6a2ba4904c21e6a414072cae\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Padilla, a veteran state senator from Los Angeles, has led the race for campaign cash. Another Democrat, former California Common Cause official Derek Cressman, also has raised significant cash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Political money became an unexpected lightning rod in the race in March when candidate Leland Yee, a state senator from San Francisco, was charged by federal investigators with allegedly offering to aid in an illegal weapons deal in exchange for political donations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee dropped out of the race, but too late for his name to be removed from the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most prominent Republican, Pepperdine University official Pete Peterson, has been endorsed by some statewide newspapers and has increasingly looked like a candidate who could solidify GOP votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most prominent candidate is also the one facing some of the longest odds: Dan Schnur, the former GOP political consultant who has recently taught at USC and is a well-known analyst on California politics. But as an independent candidate, Schnur has no natural political base from which to run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Controller\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The race for state controller, California chief's fiscal officer, also has proved to be one of the most closely watched contests -- pitting two popular Democrats against each other, both widely seen as vying for one of the top two spots alongside Republican Ashley Swearingen, the mayor of Fresno.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democrats John Pérez, the immediate past speaker of the state Assembly, has the backing of much of organized labor. His Democratic challenger, state Board of Equalization member Betty Yee, has backing from a number of grassroots activists across California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Superintendent of Public Instruction\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The only nonpartisan statewide race has also been closely watched: the battle for superintendent of public instruction. Incumbent Tom Torlakson has found himself in an expensive and fierce battle against newcomer Marshall Tuck.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Torlakson is a former Democratic legislator and has the backing of the powerful California Teachers Association. Tuck is an education advocate who was tapped by former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, and has the backing of groups that have advocated for major changes to education law and funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Post by KQED Senior Politics and Government Editor John Myers. KQED's Dan Brekke and Kelly O'Mara contributed to the post. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A three-way dogfight for the No. 2 spot on the fall ballot may not be resolved for days. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1401920877,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":38,"wordCount":1273},"headData":{"title":"Statewide Races: Result in Controller Contest Far From Final | KQED","description":"A three-way dogfight for the No. 2 spot on the fall ballot may not be resolved for days. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Statewide Races: Result in Controller Contest Far From Final","datePublished":"2014-06-04T15:45:08.000Z","dateModified":"2014-06-04T22:27:57.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"disqusIdentifier":"137929 http://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=137929","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2014/06/04/live-updates-statewide-races/","disqusTitle":"Statewide Races: Result in Controller Contest Far From Final","customPermalink":"2014/06/03/key-statewide-races-live-updates/","path":"/news/137929/live-updates-statewide-races","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_137934\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-137934\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/06/sos.jpg\" alt=\"Dan Schnur, Alex Padilla and Pete Peterson are among the candidates vying for Secretary of State. (Courtesy photos)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dan Schnur, Alex Padilla and Pete Peterson were among the candidates vying for secretary of state. (Courtesy photos)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, Wednesday 8:45 a.m.:\u003c/strong> Just one of the statewide races has been left undecided: state controller. With 100 percent of the state's precincts counted, Republican Ashley Swearingen, the mayor of Fresno, is in the No. 1 position with 24.4 percent of the vote and will move on to the November general election. And that's where the certainty on the outcome ends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democrats John \u003cspan style=\"color: #222222\">Pérez\u003c/span> and Betty Yee and Republican David Evans are within a few thousand votes of each other. \u003cspan style=\"color: #222222\">Pérez\u003c/span>, an assemblyman and former speaker of the Legislature's lower house, has 21.7 percent of the vote; Evans, a Republican CPA, has 21.6 percent; and Yee, a member of the state Board of Equalization, has 21.5 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, this is where all those uncounted votes from Tuesday — mail-in , provisional and damaged ballots —will come in. Statewide, there are likely hundreds of thousands of them still to be counted. That means it will be a matter of days before we know who will be the No. 2 finisher in the race and make it onto the November ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here are other results for statewide offices from \u003ca href=\"http://vote.sos.ca.gov/\" target=\"_blank\">the Secretary of State\u003c/a>'s Office:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lieutenant Governor\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Gavin Newsom:\u003c/strong> 49.9 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Ron Nehring:\u003c/strong> 23.3 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Secretary of State\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Alex Padilla:\u003c/strong> 30.1 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Pete Peterson:\u003c/strong> 29.6 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Treasurer\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>John Chiang:\u003c/strong> 55.1 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Greg Conlon:\u003c/strong> 38.4 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Attorney General\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Kamala Harris:\u003c/strong> 53.1 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Ronald Gold:\u003c/strong> 12.7 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Insurance Commissioner\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Dave Jones:\u003c/strong> 53.1 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Ted Gaines:\u003c/strong> 41.6 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Superintendent of Public Instruction\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Tom Torlakson:\u003c/strong> 46.9 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Marshall Tuck:\u003c/strong> 28.6 percent\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Lydia Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> 24.4 percent\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, Wednesday 12:30 a.m.: \u003c/strong>With 74 percent of precincts reporting, Tom Torlakson and Marshall Tuck lead the race for superintendent of public instruction with 48 percent and 28 percent of the vote, respectively.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The race for state controller will likely come down to a dramatic finish, as four candidates are within 80,000 votes of each other. Currently, Republicans Ashley Swearengin (24.2 percent) and David Evans (22 percent) are edging out Democrats Betty Yee (21.6 percent) and John \u003cspan style=\"color: #222222\">Pérez\u003c/span> (21.2%). Yee has been chipping away at Evans' lead over the past several hours.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As we mentioned in an earlier update, Democrat Alex Padilla and Republican Pete Peterson will advance to the November ballot. Surprisingly, Democrat Leland Yee, who is facing a federal indictment, received more than a quarter-million votes from around the state and is currently in third place. He even edged out Dan Schnur, who is in fourth place, drawing 9 percent of the vote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, Tuesday 11:30 p.m.:\u003c/strong> The race for superintendent of public instruction was a union-versus-reformers referendum, and the unions made a strong statement that their political power remains strong in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The incumbent, Tom Torlakson, was backed by teacher unions and had nearly 49 percent of the votes. Marshall Tuck, a former charter school operator who wants changes to how teachers are evaluated and when they can be fired, trailed with 27 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The third candidate was Long Beach educator Lydia Gutierrez, a Republican who also ran four years ago. She attracted 24 percent of the votes with a campaign critical of recently enacted national learning benchmarks called Common Core State Standards.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The Associated Press contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update, Tuesday, 10:30 p.m.: \u003c/strong>Democrat Alex Padilla and Republican Pete Peterson are headed to the November general election in the race for secretary of state. That result comes after a closely watched primary season where observers thought the race might lean toward two candidates from a single party, or an independent candidate making it to the fall. Leland Yee, the embattled San Francisco legislator who dropped out of the race after a federal indictment was filed against him for an alleged attempt to illegally trade weapons for campaign cash, is currently in third place, commanding about 11 percent of the vote. Dan Schnur, the independent who once was a GOP political consultant, remains a distant fourth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With about 27 percent of precincts reporting in the state controller's race, two Republicans are in the top two places, a potential shutout of both well-known Democrats. Ashley Swearingen, the mayor of Fresno, has 24 percent of the votes tallied. David Evans, a GOP accountant who has neither raised nor spent any campaign funds, has 23 percent of votes. Democrats Betty Yee and John \u003cspan style=\"color: #222222\">Pérez\u003c/span> are close behind, with Yee within striking distance of Evans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Original Post:\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nStatewide races, other than the race for governor, rarely get much attention during a primary election, but the new top-two primary rules have changed that in 2014.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Secretary of State\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perhaps most prominent has been the race for secretary of state, California's chief elections officer — a race featuring eight candidates, a corruption scandal and the possibility that an independent candidate could make it onto the November ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in all, the most prominent two candidates — Democrat Alex Padilla and Republican Pete Peterson — have largely been favored to emerge in the top two positions once the voters are counted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Padilla, a veteran state senator from Los Angeles, has led the race for campaign cash. Another Democrat, former California Common Cause official Derek Cressman, also has raised significant cash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Political money became an unexpected lightning rod in the race in March when candidate Leland Yee, a state senator from San Francisco, was charged by federal investigators with allegedly offering to aid in an illegal weapons deal in exchange for political donations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee dropped out of the race, but too late for his name to be removed from the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most prominent Republican, Pepperdine University official Pete Peterson, has been endorsed by some statewide newspapers and has increasingly looked like a candidate who could solidify GOP votes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most prominent candidate is also the one facing some of the longest odds: Dan Schnur, the former GOP political consultant who has recently taught at USC and is a well-known analyst on California politics. But as an independent candidate, Schnur has no natural political base from which to run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Controller\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The race for state controller, California chief's fiscal officer, also has proved to be one of the most closely watched contests -- pitting two popular Democrats against each other, both widely seen as vying for one of the top two spots alongside Republican Ashley Swearingen, the mayor of Fresno.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democrats John Pérez, the immediate past speaker of the state Assembly, has the backing of much of organized labor. His Democratic challenger, state Board of Equalization member Betty Yee, has backing from a number of grassroots activists across California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Superintendent of Public Instruction\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The only nonpartisan statewide race has also been closely watched: the battle for superintendent of public instruction. Incumbent Tom Torlakson has found himself in an expensive and fierce battle against newcomer Marshall Tuck.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Torlakson is a former Democratic legislator and has the backing of the powerful California Teachers Association. Tuck is an education advocate who was tapped by former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, and has the backing of groups that have advocated for major changes to education law and funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Post by KQED Senior Politics and Government Editor John Myers. KQED's Dan Brekke and Kelly O'Mara contributed to the post. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/137929/live-updates-statewide-races","authors":["236"],"programs":["news_6944"],"series":["news_6304"],"categories":["news_13"],"tags":["news_6390","news_6416","news_1052","news_4969"],"featImg":"news_137934","label":"news_6944"},"news_137378":{"type":"posts","id":"news_137378","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"137378","score":null,"sort":[1401348641000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"dilemma-for-democrats-in-race-for-state-controller","title":"Dilemma for Democrats in Race for State Controller","publishDate":1401348641,"format":"aside","headTitle":"California Election Watch 2014 | News Fix | KQED News","labelTerm":{"term":6944,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>In politics, the electoral odds can change overnight. Just ask Betty Yee and John Pérez.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/05/controller.jpeg\">\u003cimg class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-137422\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/05/controller.jpeg\" alt=\"California State Controller Seal\" width=\"226\" height=\"223\">\u003c/a>After months of it seeming as though their Democratic intraparty battle to be state controller could — under California's top two primary system — go all the way to November, \u003ca href=\"http://www.news10.net/story/news/politics/john-myers/2014/03/05/fresno-mayor-launches-california-state-controller-bid/6080787/\" target=\"_blank\">the dynamic quickly changed on March 5, when a heavyweight Republican threw her hat in the ring.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The decision by \u003ca href=\"http://www.ashleyforca.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Ashley Swearengin\u003c/a>, the incumbent mayor of Fresno, to run for the job of California's top fiscal official left even would-be opponents realizing that GOP voters will probably fall in line behind her on June 3 rather than play the field. If so, that leaves only one spot for a Democrat on the fall ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(The incumbent controller, John Chiang, can't run for re-election due to term limits and is instead \u003ca href=\"http://www.electjohnchiang.com/\" target=\"_blank\">running for state treasurer\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I believe it'll be me, but that remains to be seen,\" says Assemblyman \u003ca href=\"http://www.perezforcontroller.com/\" target=\"_blank\">John Pérez\u003c/a> (D-Los Angeles).\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'I didn't have the luxury to be a candidate for two years, when I was actually helping negotiate our way out of the worst recession since the Great Depression.'\u003ccite>— John Pérez\u003cbr>\nAssemblyman and controller candidate\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Pérez is perhaps the best-known of all the candidates for controller. He served as speaker of the state Assembly from 2010 until earlier this month, and as such was one of the architects of the last four state budgets. Pérez also attracted headlines for individual efforts on an expanded rainy day reserve fund and for crafting 2012's new college scholarship program for students from middle-class families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the former speaker has placed third in \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_25553306/field-poll-republican-ashley-swearengin-leads-race-state\" target=\"_blank\">public polls\u003c/a> on the race for controller. Swearengin has come in first, with second place being held by the candidate who entered the race before everyone else: Democrat \u003ca href=\"http://bettyyee.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Betty Yee\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee, a resident of San Francisco, has been a member of the state Board of Equalization since 2005. Before that, she was a fiscal analyst for the board and a top budget aide to former Gov. Gray Davis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee began the race before anyone, but hasn't raised as much money as others. She says that's partly because she places her own limits on donations from businesses that might one day bring their issues before the Board of Equalization, the state's arbiter of many tax disputes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I've been running a very different kind of campaign,\" said Yee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That campaign pits not just her against Pérez, but also factions of Democrats against each other -- from organized labor to community activists and beyond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's been interesting to see what the race has turned on,\" said \u003ca href=\"http://daviddayen.tumblr.com/\" target=\"_blank\">David Dayen\u003c/a>, a longtime activist in the state party who now writes political analysis for a variety of websites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In particular, Dayen says there's anger left over from 2012, when Pérez worked for incumbent Democratic assembly members who moved to new districts after the 2011 redistricting — bumping up against some local Democrats who were already running.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The activists,\" said Dayen, \"are going to have long memories on all that.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pérez says that kind of Democratic angst comes with the job of being a party leader. But he bristles at accusations that his decision to run for controller came so late as to be unfair to Yee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I never thought elections were about somebody calling 'dibs,' \" he said in a recent interview. \"I didn't have the luxury to be a candidate for two years, when I was actually helping negotiate our way out of the worst recession since the Great Depression.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee counters by suggesting the former speaker doesn't have the right resume.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'I think the legislative process is limited. It really doesn't allow, I think, a full assessment of what's happening.'\u003ccite>— Betty Yee,\u003cbr>\nBoard of Equalization member and controller candidate\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\"I think the legislative process is limited,\" she said in reference to Pérez's experience. \"It really doesn't allow, I think, a full assessment of what's happening.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not to be outdone, Pérez argues Yee should have done more in her role during the Davis administration to manage the state's finances during the last budget surplus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They took in less money than they spent,\" he said. \"That's not what you want from the chief fiscal office of the state of California.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So how will Democrats sort it out? 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Just ask Betty Yee and John Pérez.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/05/controller.jpeg\">\u003cimg class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-137422\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/05/controller.jpeg\" alt=\"California State Controller Seal\" width=\"226\" height=\"223\">\u003c/a>After months of it seeming as though their Democratic intraparty battle to be state controller could — under California's top two primary system — go all the way to November, \u003ca href=\"http://www.news10.net/story/news/politics/john-myers/2014/03/05/fresno-mayor-launches-california-state-controller-bid/6080787/\" target=\"_blank\">the dynamic quickly changed on March 5, when a heavyweight Republican threw her hat in the ring.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The decision by \u003ca href=\"http://www.ashleyforca.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Ashley Swearengin\u003c/a>, the incumbent mayor of Fresno, to run for the job of California's top fiscal official left even would-be opponents realizing that GOP voters will probably fall in line behind her on June 3 rather than play the field. If so, that leaves only one spot for a Democrat on the fall ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(The incumbent controller, John Chiang, can't run for re-election due to term limits and is instead \u003ca href=\"http://www.electjohnchiang.com/\" target=\"_blank\">running for state treasurer\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I believe it'll be me, but that remains to be seen,\" says Assemblyman \u003ca href=\"http://www.perezforcontroller.com/\" target=\"_blank\">John Pérez\u003c/a> (D-Los Angeles).\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'I didn't have the luxury to be a candidate for two years, when I was actually helping negotiate our way out of the worst recession since the Great Depression.'\u003ccite>— John Pérez\u003cbr>\nAssemblyman and controller candidate\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Pérez is perhaps the best-known of all the candidates for controller. He served as speaker of the state Assembly from 2010 until earlier this month, and as such was one of the architects of the last four state budgets. Pérez also attracted headlines for individual efforts on an expanded rainy day reserve fund and for crafting 2012's new college scholarship program for students from middle-class families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the former speaker has placed third in \u003ca href=\"http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_25553306/field-poll-republican-ashley-swearengin-leads-race-state\" target=\"_blank\">public polls\u003c/a> on the race for controller. Swearengin has come in first, with second place being held by the candidate who entered the race before everyone else: Democrat \u003ca href=\"http://bettyyee.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Betty Yee\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee, a resident of San Francisco, has been a member of the state Board of Equalization since 2005. Before that, she was a fiscal analyst for the board and a top budget aide to former Gov. Gray Davis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee began the race before anyone, but hasn't raised as much money as others. She says that's partly because she places her own limits on donations from businesses that might one day bring their issues before the Board of Equalization, the state's arbiter of many tax disputes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I've been running a very different kind of campaign,\" said Yee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That campaign pits not just her against Pérez, but also factions of Democrats against each other -- from organized labor to community activists and beyond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's been interesting to see what the race has turned on,\" said \u003ca href=\"http://daviddayen.tumblr.com/\" target=\"_blank\">David Dayen\u003c/a>, a longtime activist in the state party who now writes political analysis for a variety of websites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In particular, Dayen says there's anger left over from 2012, when Pérez worked for incumbent Democratic assembly members who moved to new districts after the 2011 redistricting — bumping up against some local Democrats who were already running.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The activists,\" said Dayen, \"are going to have long memories on all that.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pérez says that kind of Democratic angst comes with the job of being a party leader. But he bristles at accusations that his decision to run for controller came so late as to be unfair to Yee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I never thought elections were about somebody calling 'dibs,' \" he said in a recent interview. \"I didn't have the luxury to be a candidate for two years, when I was actually helping negotiate our way out of the worst recession since the Great Depression.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yee counters by suggesting the former speaker doesn't have the right resume.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignleft\">'I think the legislative process is limited. It really doesn't allow, I think, a full assessment of what's happening.'\u003ccite>— Betty Yee,\u003cbr>\nBoard of Equalization member and controller candidate\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\"I think the legislative process is limited,\" she said in reference to Pérez's experience. \"It really doesn't allow, I think, a full assessment of what's happening.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not to be outdone, Pérez argues Yee should have done more in her role during the Davis administration to manage the state's finances during the last budget surplus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They took in less money than they spent,\" he said. \"That's not what you want from the chief fiscal office of the state of California.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So how will Democrats sort it out? 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