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Currently, you can access the funds from your direct deposit by writing a check, using an ATM card to get cash or make a purchase.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Customers can still make cash withdrawals at ATMs. Dwight Moore, who’s been banking with Patelco for 25 years, said he was able to get cash on Monday, but he couldn’t see his balance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It does make me worry,” he said. “Patelco has been good since I’ve been banking with them, so this is shocking.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Patelco has sought help from a third-party cybersecurity firm to investigate the data breach. How many union members were affected and how long it would take before systems are fully restored is unclear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I talked to people on the phone, because I called their customer service line, they weren’t able to give me any sort of information regarding what my balance was,” said Alex Ellis, who’s banked with Patelco for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ellis, who lives in Oregon with her husband, said her grandfather opened an account for her when she was a kid. But the stress she has experienced over the past few days could lead her to leave Patelco altogether, as the attack took place just before the beginning of the month when payments like rent are typically due.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are very fortunate that our landlords seem to be working with us and [are] understanding of the situation,” she said. “I’m very interested to kind of see how they finish handling stuff, because it will definitely help determine what I end up deciding to do in the future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ransomware attacks typically target institutions — like schools, health care systems and local governments (like the \u003ca href=\"https://www.oaklandca.gov/news/ransomware-substitute-notice\">City of Oakland\u003c/a>) — where large tranches of personal information are stored — or hackers presume the victim is willing to spend a lot of money to get the institution up and running again quickly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/436414/the-crippling-ransomware-attack-on-kqed-the-inside-story\">KQED was hacked in 2018\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ransomware incidents have been on the rise. In 2023, they went up by 68 percent, according to the ThreatDown State of Malware \u003ca href=\"https://try.threatdown.com/2024-state-of-malware/\">report\u003c/a> published by Malwarebytes, a cybersecurity company based in Santa Clara.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Davis Hake, a San Francisco-based senior director of cybersecurity services at the Venable law firm and an adjunct professor in cyber risk management at UC Berkeley, is a leading author of early cybersecurity legislation in Congress. He shared his insights on the Patelco case with Rachael Myrow, senior editor of KQED’s Silicon Valley news desk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s an excerpt of their conversation, edited for clarity:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>RACHAEL MYROW: Tell us more about ransomware attacks. How do they work exactly?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DAVIS HAKE: Adversaries will start with a phishing attack, which is an impersonation, to try and get someone through email to click on a link, which gives them access to the account. The adversaries then work through low-level attacks to escalate their ability to get closer and closer to critical parts of a business. And then, once they’re there, they’ll deploy malware, which locks down a system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s a type of attack that locks down critical parts of a business. And what attackers were really trying to do here is they’re trying to put pressure on the business to pay an extortion in order to restore services. Unfortunately, we’ve seen these types of attacks become more popular among criminals. Folks may remember the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/28/534679950/petya-ransomware-hits-at-least-65-countries-microsoft-traces-it-to-tax-software\">“NotPetya”\u003c/a> ransomware attacks of 2017. After that time period, these types of attacks started growing in success. And over the pandemic, when we saw a shift to work from home, as well as major disruptions to health care systems, these attacks really took off and have been a major issue since.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Financial institutions know they’re big targets for hackers. So, what processes do they have in place to prevent these attacks?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Security controls, such as multi-factor authentication, can help limit the adversary getting access to larger accounts. Having backups in place is critical, obviously, so you can restore without paying an extortion.[aside postID=\"news_11982634,news_11973657,mindshift_63353\" label=\"Related Stories\"] But a larger issue for ransomware victims is social pressure that extortionists put on the victim. Like in this case [of Patelco], there’s enormous social pressure to fix it. [That’s] what will oftentimes drive payment and extortion, which we always want to try and avoid. So, in this case, working on developing an incident response plan ahead of time and then following that plan ensures that you have business processes in place to account for disruptions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>What do we know, if anything, about the ransomware attack that hit Patelco?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I don’t know the specifics of this case other than what’s been reported publicly. But for any individual, they should treat this just like a data breach. It’s critical to look into things like changing your passwords, which is always a good idea. Looking at other bank accounts, being alert for fraud that may be associated with the email that you use for banking, and then also to think about how this may impact your ability, if you’re a small business, to pay your vendors or your employees. Plan ahead for what this disruption might mean to your business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the city of Oakland was hit last year, it took a long time for some services to come back. But I know that they prioritized critical services coming in first. So, you know, general cyber hygiene is what you can take advantage of for your own self.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>How can the rest of us prepare ourselves to avoid or limit the damage from future attacks of this nature? Should we also be thinking in terms of distributed banking, making sure that we don’t pay everything from the same account?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Certainly. So, thinking through; what is your own backup plan? How can you ensure resiliency to your services? This is actually what we teach folks experiencing ransomware incidents. The idea is to make sure that your business, and the critical functions of that business can keep on operating, even when disrupted. And [that’s] even in a case where it may take weeks for services to come back online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>KQED’s Caroline Smith contributed to this report.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A cybersecurity expert gives practical advice for folks affected by the data breach at one of the Bay Area’s largest credit unions.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1726868082,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":27,"wordCount":1174},"headData":{"title":"Cybersecurity Expert Shares Tips for Dublin-Based Patelco Credit Union Customers After Ransomware Attack | KQED","description":"A cybersecurity expert gives practical advice for folks affected by the data breach at one of the Bay Area’s largest credit unions.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Cybersecurity Expert Shares Tips for Dublin-Based Patelco Credit Union Customers After Ransomware Attack","datePublished":"2024-07-03T14:00:31-07:00","dateModified":"2024-09-20T14:34:42-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprStoryId":"kqed-11992954","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11992954/cybersecurity-expert-shares-tips-for-dublin-based-patelco-credit-union-customers-after-ransomware-attack","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>One of the largest credit unions in the Bay Area and nationwide has been trying to restore its systems, after a ransomware attack first reported Saturday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Patelco Credit Union, which is based in Dublin and serves half a million members, has shut down some day-to-day banking services, namely electronic transactions, like Zelle, direct deposit, balance inquiries, and payments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the latest \u003ca href=\"https://www.patelco.org/securityupdate\">update\u003c/a> posted Tuesday on its site: “Please know that any incoming direct deposit(s) will be credited to your account and processed before any withdrawals (e.g., checks, cash withdrawals). Currently, you can access the funds from your direct deposit by writing a check, using an ATM card to get cash or make a purchase.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Customers can still make cash withdrawals at ATMs. Dwight Moore, who’s been banking with Patelco for 25 years, said he was able to get cash on Monday, but he couldn’t see his balance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It does make me worry,” he said. “Patelco has been good since I’ve been banking with them, so this is shocking.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Patelco has sought help from a third-party cybersecurity firm to investigate the data breach. How many union members were affected and how long it would take before systems are fully restored is unclear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I talked to people on the phone, because I called their customer service line, they weren’t able to give me any sort of information regarding what my balance was,” said Alex Ellis, who’s banked with Patelco for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ellis, who lives in Oregon with her husband, said her grandfather opened an account for her when she was a kid. But the stress she has experienced over the past few days could lead her to leave Patelco altogether, as the attack took place just before the beginning of the month when payments like rent are typically due.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are very fortunate that our landlords seem to be working with us and [are] understanding of the situation,” she said. “I’m very interested to kind of see how they finish handling stuff, because it will definitely help determine what I end up deciding to do in the future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ransomware attacks typically target institutions — like schools, health care systems and local governments (like the \u003ca href=\"https://www.oaklandca.gov/news/ransomware-substitute-notice\">City of Oakland\u003c/a>) — where large tranches of personal information are stored — or hackers presume the victim is willing to spend a lot of money to get the institution up and running again quickly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/436414/the-crippling-ransomware-attack-on-kqed-the-inside-story\">KQED was hacked in 2018\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ransomware incidents have been on the rise. In 2023, they went up by 68 percent, according to the ThreatDown State of Malware \u003ca href=\"https://try.threatdown.com/2024-state-of-malware/\">report\u003c/a> published by Malwarebytes, a cybersecurity company based in Santa Clara.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Davis Hake, a San Francisco-based senior director of cybersecurity services at the Venable law firm and an adjunct professor in cyber risk management at UC Berkeley, is a leading author of early cybersecurity legislation in Congress. He shared his insights on the Patelco case with Rachael Myrow, senior editor of KQED’s Silicon Valley news desk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s an excerpt of their conversation, edited for clarity:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>RACHAEL MYROW: Tell us more about ransomware attacks. How do they work exactly?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DAVIS HAKE: Adversaries will start with a phishing attack, which is an impersonation, to try and get someone through email to click on a link, which gives them access to the account. The adversaries then work through low-level attacks to escalate their ability to get closer and closer to critical parts of a business. And then, once they’re there, they’ll deploy malware, which locks down a system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s a type of attack that locks down critical parts of a business. And what attackers were really trying to do here is they’re trying to put pressure on the business to pay an extortion in order to restore services. Unfortunately, we’ve seen these types of attacks become more popular among criminals. Folks may remember the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/28/534679950/petya-ransomware-hits-at-least-65-countries-microsoft-traces-it-to-tax-software\">“NotPetya”\u003c/a> ransomware attacks of 2017. After that time period, these types of attacks started growing in success. And over the pandemic, when we saw a shift to work from home, as well as major disruptions to health care systems, these attacks really took off and have been a major issue since.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Financial institutions know they’re big targets for hackers. So, what processes do they have in place to prevent these attacks?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Security controls, such as multi-factor authentication, can help limit the adversary getting access to larger accounts. Having backups in place is critical, obviously, so you can restore without paying an extortion.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11982634,news_11973657,mindshift_63353","label":"Related Stories "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp> But a larger issue for ransomware victims is social pressure that extortionists put on the victim. Like in this case [of Patelco], there’s enormous social pressure to fix it. [That’s] what will oftentimes drive payment and extortion, which we always want to try and avoid. So, in this case, working on developing an incident response plan ahead of time and then following that plan ensures that you have business processes in place to account for disruptions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>What do we know, if anything, about the ransomware attack that hit Patelco?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I don’t know the specifics of this case other than what’s been reported publicly. But for any individual, they should treat this just like a data breach. It’s critical to look into things like changing your passwords, which is always a good idea. Looking at other bank accounts, being alert for fraud that may be associated with the email that you use for banking, and then also to think about how this may impact your ability, if you’re a small business, to pay your vendors or your employees. Plan ahead for what this disruption might mean to your business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the city of Oakland was hit last year, it took a long time for some services to come back. But I know that they prioritized critical services coming in first. So, you know, general cyber hygiene is what you can take advantage of for your own self.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>How can the rest of us prepare ourselves to avoid or limit the damage from future attacks of this nature? Should we also be thinking in terms of distributed banking, making sure that we don’t pay everything from the same account?\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Certainly. So, thinking through; what is your own backup plan? How can you ensure resiliency to your services? This is actually what we teach folks experiencing ransomware incidents. The idea is to make sure that your business, and the critical functions of that business can keep on operating, even when disrupted. And [that’s] even in a case where it may take weeks for services to come back online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>KQED’s Caroline Smith contributed to this report.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11992954/cybersecurity-expert-shares-tips-for-dublin-based-patelco-credit-union-customers-after-ransomware-attack","authors":["251","11724"],"categories":["news_8","news_34166","news_248"],"tags":["news_21368","news_17619","news_22844","news_27626","news_2736","news_1631"],"featImg":"news_11992956","label":"news"},"news_11948019":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11948019","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11948019","score":null,"sort":[1682710994000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"fed-takes-partial-blame-for-silicon-valley-bank-collapse","title":"Fed Takes Partial Blame for Silicon Valley Bank Collapse","publishDate":1682710994,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Fed Takes Partial Blame for Silicon Valley Bank Collapse | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":253,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>The Federal Reserve says its own light-touch approach to bank regulation is partly to blame for the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank last month, and it promised more vigorous oversight in the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a \u003ca href=\"https://www.federalreserve.gov/publications/files/svb-review-20230428.pdf\">scathing 114-page report (PDF)\u003c/a>, the Fed says its own supervisors were slow to grasp the extent of the problems at Silicon Valley Bank, and when problems were identified, supervisors failed to move aggressively enough to ensure those problems were fixed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11948027\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11948027\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/GettyImages-1250750434-1020x679.jpg\" alt=\"Headshot of a white middle-aged man with a suit looking away from the camera with a serious expression.\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/GettyImages-1250750434-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/GettyImages-1250750434-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/GettyImages-1250750434-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/GettyImages-1250750434.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Barr, vice chair for supervision of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, testifies during the House Financial Services Committee hearing titled The Federal Regulators’ Response to Recent Bank Failures, in Rayburn Building in Washington DC, March 29, 2023. \u003ccite>(Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The report says changes adopted in 2019 that exempted all but the biggest banks from strict scrutiny — along with a cultural shift toward less-assertive policing of banks — allowed problems at Silicon Valley Bank to fester until it was too late.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Following Silicon Valley Bank’s failure, we must strengthen the Federal Reserve’s supervision and regulation, based on what we have learned,” said Michael Barr, the Fed’s vice chair for supervision, who led the review.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Barr took over as the Fed’s top bank regulator last July, replacing Randal Quarles, who oversaw the changes made in 2019. Barr’s more aggressive approach to bank regulation has drawn criticism from Senate Republicans. But it has the backing of Fed chairman Jerome Powell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I welcome this thorough and self-critical report on Federal Reserve supervision from Vice Chair Barr,” Powell said in a statement. “I agree with and support his recommendations to address our rules and supervisory practices, and I am confident they will lead to a stronger and more resilient banking system.”[aside label=\"Related Stories\" postID=\"forum_2010101892482,news_11943452,news_11945075\"]Barr found that some of the problems at Silicon Valley Bank were unique, based on its heavy concentration in the tech industry, its shoddy risk-management practices, and its large share of uninsured deposits — which customers raced to withdraw when problems surfaced.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the failure holds lessons for the broader financial system and the way it’s regulated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The speed of the bank run at Silicon Valley — where customers tried to withdraw an unprecedented $140 billion over the course of two days — will force the Fed to rethink its approach, in an age where rumors can spread rapidly on social media and money can be moved instantly with a tap on a smart phone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The experience also shows that any bank failure can have widespread ripple effects, even if the bank is not extremely large or well-connected. The collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank in New York two days later rattled confidence in the nation’s overall banking system and required the federal government to take emergency steps to prevent a wider bank run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The scathing and self-critical report led by Vice Chair for Supervision Michael Barr said the Fed was slow to grasp the extent of the problems at Silicon Valley Bank and that supervisors were not aggressive enough to ensure those problems were fixed.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1726868462,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":11,"wordCount":508},"headData":{"title":"Fed Takes Partial Blame for Silicon Valley Bank Collapse | KQED","description":"The scathing and self-critical report led by Vice Chair for Supervision Michael Barr said the Fed was slow to grasp the extent of the problems at Silicon Valley Bank and that supervisors were not aggressive enough to ensure those problems were fixed.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Fed Takes Partial Blame for Silicon Valley Bank Collapse","datePublished":"2023-04-28T12:43:14-07:00","dateModified":"2024-09-20T14:41:02-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/people/2788801/scott-horsley\">Scott Horsley\u003c/a>","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11948019/fed-takes-partial-blame-for-silicon-valley-bank-collapse","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The Federal Reserve says its own light-touch approach to bank regulation is partly to blame for the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank last month, and it promised more vigorous oversight in the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a \u003ca href=\"https://www.federalreserve.gov/publications/files/svb-review-20230428.pdf\">scathing 114-page report (PDF)\u003c/a>, the Fed says its own supervisors were slow to grasp the extent of the problems at Silicon Valley Bank, and when problems were identified, supervisors failed to move aggressively enough to ensure those problems were fixed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11948027\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11948027\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/GettyImages-1250750434-1020x679.jpg\" alt=\"Headshot of a white middle-aged man with a suit looking away from the camera with a serious expression.\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/GettyImages-1250750434-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/GettyImages-1250750434-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/GettyImages-1250750434-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/04/GettyImages-1250750434.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Barr, vice chair for supervision of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, testifies during the House Financial Services Committee hearing titled The Federal Regulators’ Response to Recent Bank Failures, in Rayburn Building in Washington DC, March 29, 2023. \u003ccite>(Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The report says changes adopted in 2019 that exempted all but the biggest banks from strict scrutiny — along with a cultural shift toward less-assertive policing of banks — allowed problems at Silicon Valley Bank to fester until it was too late.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Following Silicon Valley Bank’s failure, we must strengthen the Federal Reserve’s supervision and regulation, based on what we have learned,” said Michael Barr, the Fed’s vice chair for supervision, who led the review.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Barr took over as the Fed’s top bank regulator last July, replacing Randal Quarles, who oversaw the changes made in 2019. Barr’s more aggressive approach to bank regulation has drawn criticism from Senate Republicans. But it has the backing of Fed chairman Jerome Powell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I welcome this thorough and self-critical report on Federal Reserve supervision from Vice Chair Barr,” Powell said in a statement. “I agree with and support his recommendations to address our rules and supervisory practices, and I am confident they will lead to a stronger and more resilient banking system.”\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","postid":"forum_2010101892482,news_11943452,news_11945075"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Barr found that some of the problems at Silicon Valley Bank were unique, based on its heavy concentration in the tech industry, its shoddy risk-management practices, and its large share of uninsured deposits — which customers raced to withdraw when problems surfaced.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the failure holds lessons for the broader financial system and the way it’s regulated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The speed of the bank run at Silicon Valley — where customers tried to withdraw an unprecedented $140 billion over the course of two days — will force the Fed to rethink its approach, in an age where rumors can spread rapidly on social media and money can be moved instantly with a tap on a smart phone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The experience also shows that any bank failure can have widespread ripple effects, even if the bank is not extremely large or well-connected. The collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank in New York two days later rattled confidence in the nation’s overall banking system and required the federal government to take emergency steps to prevent a wider bank run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11948019/fed-takes-partial-blame-for-silicon-valley-bank-collapse","authors":["byline_news_11948019"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8","news_34166"],"tags":["news_21368","news_69","news_18545","news_6927","news_1631"],"affiliates":["news_253"],"featImg":"news_11948026","label":"news_253"},"news_11943556":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11943556","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11943556","score":null,"sort":[1678910819000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-lawmakers-call-for-state-investigation-into-silicon-valley-bank-failure","title":"California Lawmakers Call for State Investigation Into Silicon Valley Bank Failure","publishDate":1678910819,"format":"standard","headTitle":"California Lawmakers Call for State Investigation Into Silicon Valley Bank Failure | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>As federal officials scramble to figure out more details about the \u003ca href=\"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/why-silicon-valley-bank-and-signature-bank-failed-so-fast\">sudden failure of Silicon Valley Bank (SVB)\u003c/a> last week, some lawmakers in Sacramento are calling for the state to launch its own investigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assemblymember Timothy Grayson (D-Concord), who heads up his chamber’s Banking and Finance Committee, said that after the federal government releases its report on SVB on May 1, he wants the Legislature to start asking questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We will gather the facts and wait for investigation, reports and analysis to come out. But there will be oversight hearings,” Grayson told KQED this week. He added that he wants to see whether California’s oversight of SVB, a state-chartered bank, fell short.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There will be informational hearings, and we will dive deep into the information that is provided for us through investigations so that we can make sure that we do everything we can to identify those gaps and then fill them on a state level,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Grayson spent the weekend on the phone with fellow lawmakers, including fellow Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan (D-San Ramon), who also serves on the banking committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to ensure we’re doing everything we can to protect Californians and their livelihoods and their ability to pay rent and keep food on the table,” Bauer-Kahan said. “So we will be looking long and hard at what authority we have to protect Californians.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the immediate wake of SVB’s failure, many Democrats blamed Republicans in Congress and former President Donald Trump, who both worked to weaken the landmark \u003ca href=\"https://www.cftc.gov/LawRegulation/DoddFrankAct/index.htm\">Dodd-Frank Act\u003c/a>, which mandated stricter oversight of the banking industry after the 2008–09 global financial crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SVB and \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/13/signature-bank-third-biggest-bank-failure-in-us-history.html\">Signature Bank, which also failed last week\u003c/a>, were among the banks that successfully lobbied to have the law changed to essentially exempt themselves from stricter federal requirements and annual Federal Reserve “stress tests.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Silicon Valley Bank would have fallen within that more stringent regulatory review. But because of the lobbying of Silicon Valley Bank itself and others, it was rolled back in 2018,” said California Attorney General Rob Bonta.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bonta noted that while federal regulators have most of the authority to regulate banks, California also holds some oversight power through state agencies like the \u003ca href=\"https://dfpi.ca.gov/\">Department of Financial Protection and Innovation\u003c/a> (DFPI), which first announced the bank’s closure on Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think we need to ask the question about … the role of all relevant players,” Bonta said. “[How can we] accomplish what we all want to do, which is to protect everyday people, to avoid situations like this in the future? And who should have what role?”[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"silicon-valley-bank\"]After Republicans succeeded in weakening Dodd-Frank and Trump pushed to undermine the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, an oversight agency created by his predecessor, California moved to bolster its own consumer banking protections.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2020, with a push from Gov. Gavin Newsom, the Legislature passed \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB1864\">AB 1864\u003c/a>, which created the DFPI, with the goal to “improve accountability and transparency in the California financial system.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The nascent agency’s powers included the ability to regulate financial institutions, especially state-chartered banks, as well as the authority to enforce consumer protection laws.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kat Taylor, co-founder and board chair of Beneficial State Bank in Oakland, strongly supported the creation of the agency. She says its regulatory functions are critical because the financial sector is so influential.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a far bigger industry than any other industry, and it fuels all other industries,” Taylor said, noting that more state and federal oversight of the financial industry is needed. “So we don’t understand it at our peril. And it’s complicated.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite repeated requests for interviews this week as the bank crisis continued unfolding, DFPI declined to grant an interview to KQED. Four days after the news broke, and 24 hours after they were first contacted, agency spokesperson Elizabeth Smith emailed a one-sentence statement: “We are actively investigating the situation and conducting a thorough review to ensure the Department is doing everything we can to protect Californians.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Sen. Monique Limón (D-Santa Barbara), who authored AB 1864 and now chairs the Senate Banking and Financial Institutions Committee, said she wasn’t faulting the DFPI for the bank’s collapse, but does have plenty of questions for the agency she helped create.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s very fair for legislators to be asking a lot of questions about an agency and wanting to understand what happened,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You know, I’ve started to write down some of the questions from other members who maybe don’t serve on banking and finance, who don’t have the same purview in terms of the subject-matter area, but who are impacted because they have constituents who are impacted.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Limón promised transparency in the coming months as state lawmakers further investigate the bank’s failure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We also want to ensure that we are reviewing our own state laws [to determine] what laws allow for something like that to happen,” she added. “Sometimes the silence or absence of laws is what allows things to occur. And certainly we’re going to be looking at all of that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That sentiment was echoed by Assemblymember Grayson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think we have to face reality: There was a bank run, which means something didn’t go right,” Grayson said. “But we had a process to deal with that. And now we get to do a follow-up investigation and figure out how in the future do we prevent that kind of thing from happening again.”\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"As federal officials scramble to figure out exactly what led to the bank's failure and who's to blame, some Sacramento lawmakers are calling for hearings to get more specific answers and figure out how to 'prevent that kind of thing from happening again.'","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1726872351,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":992},"headData":{"title":"California Lawmakers Call for State Investigation Into Silicon Valley Bank Failure | KQED","description":"As federal officials scramble to figure out exactly what led to the bank's failure and who's to blame, some Sacramento lawmakers are calling for hearings to get more specific answers and figure out how to 'prevent that kind of thing from happening again.'","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"California Lawmakers Call for State Investigation Into Silicon Valley Bank Failure","datePublished":"2023-03-15T13:06:59-07:00","dateModified":"2024-09-20T15:45:51-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"source":"Food","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/food","audioUrl":"https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0af137ef-751e-4b19-a055-aaef00d2d578/ffca7e9f-6831-41c5-bcaf-aaef00f5a073/a5e3bb69-e813-43fe-80be-afc600f0ea2b/audio.mp3","sticky":false,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11943556/california-lawmakers-call-for-state-investigation-into-silicon-valley-bank-failure","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>As federal officials scramble to figure out more details about the \u003ca href=\"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/why-silicon-valley-bank-and-signature-bank-failed-so-fast\">sudden failure of Silicon Valley Bank (SVB)\u003c/a> last week, some lawmakers in Sacramento are calling for the state to launch its own investigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assemblymember Timothy Grayson (D-Concord), who heads up his chamber’s Banking and Finance Committee, said that after the federal government releases its report on SVB on May 1, he wants the Legislature to start asking questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We will gather the facts and wait for investigation, reports and analysis to come out. But there will be oversight hearings,” Grayson told KQED this week. He added that he wants to see whether California’s oversight of SVB, a state-chartered bank, fell short.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There will be informational hearings, and we will dive deep into the information that is provided for us through investigations so that we can make sure that we do everything we can to identify those gaps and then fill them on a state level,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Grayson spent the weekend on the phone with fellow lawmakers, including fellow Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan (D-San Ramon), who also serves on the banking committee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to ensure we’re doing everything we can to protect Californians and their livelihoods and their ability to pay rent and keep food on the table,” Bauer-Kahan said. “So we will be looking long and hard at what authority we have to protect Californians.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the immediate wake of SVB’s failure, many Democrats blamed Republicans in Congress and former President Donald Trump, who both worked to weaken the landmark \u003ca href=\"https://www.cftc.gov/LawRegulation/DoddFrankAct/index.htm\">Dodd-Frank Act\u003c/a>, which mandated stricter oversight of the banking industry after the 2008–09 global financial crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SVB and \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/13/signature-bank-third-biggest-bank-failure-in-us-history.html\">Signature Bank, which also failed last week\u003c/a>, were among the banks that successfully lobbied to have the law changed to essentially exempt themselves from stricter federal requirements and annual Federal Reserve “stress tests.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Silicon Valley Bank would have fallen within that more stringent regulatory review. But because of the lobbying of Silicon Valley Bank itself and others, it was rolled back in 2018,” said California Attorney General Rob Bonta.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bonta noted that while federal regulators have most of the authority to regulate banks, California also holds some oversight power through state agencies like the \u003ca href=\"https://dfpi.ca.gov/\">Department of Financial Protection and Innovation\u003c/a> (DFPI), which first announced the bank’s closure on Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think we need to ask the question about … the role of all relevant players,” Bonta said. “[How can we] accomplish what we all want to do, which is to protect everyday people, to avoid situations like this in the future? And who should have what role?”\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"silicon-valley-bank"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>After Republicans succeeded in weakening Dodd-Frank and Trump pushed to undermine the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, an oversight agency created by his predecessor, California moved to bolster its own consumer banking protections.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2020, with a push from Gov. Gavin Newsom, the Legislature passed \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB1864\">AB 1864\u003c/a>, which created the DFPI, with the goal to “improve accountability and transparency in the California financial system.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The nascent agency’s powers included the ability to regulate financial institutions, especially state-chartered banks, as well as the authority to enforce consumer protection laws.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kat Taylor, co-founder and board chair of Beneficial State Bank in Oakland, strongly supported the creation of the agency. She says its regulatory functions are critical because the financial sector is so influential.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a far bigger industry than any other industry, and it fuels all other industries,” Taylor said, noting that more state and federal oversight of the financial industry is needed. “So we don’t understand it at our peril. And it’s complicated.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite repeated requests for interviews this week as the bank crisis continued unfolding, DFPI declined to grant an interview to KQED. Four days after the news broke, and 24 hours after they were first contacted, agency spokesperson Elizabeth Smith emailed a one-sentence statement: “We are actively investigating the situation and conducting a thorough review to ensure the Department is doing everything we can to protect Californians.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State Sen. Monique Limón (D-Santa Barbara), who authored AB 1864 and now chairs the Senate Banking and Financial Institutions Committee, said she wasn’t faulting the DFPI for the bank’s collapse, but does have plenty of questions for the agency she helped create.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s very fair for legislators to be asking a lot of questions about an agency and wanting to understand what happened,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You know, I’ve started to write down some of the questions from other members who maybe don’t serve on banking and finance, who don’t have the same purview in terms of the subject-matter area, but who are impacted because they have constituents who are impacted.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Limón promised transparency in the coming months as state lawmakers further investigate the bank’s failure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We also want to ensure that we are reviewing our own state laws [to determine] what laws allow for something like that to happen,” she added. “Sometimes the silence or absence of laws is what allows things to occur. 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Bank of America and other large banks \u003ca href=\"https://www.bankofamerica.com/deposits/deposit-holds-faqs/\">are allowed to freeze deposits or entire accounts\u003c/a> if they believe fraud or suspicious activity is occurring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It feels like nothing is a safe space or a safe place, especially when it comes to finances,” LaRue, who posted pornographic videos online, said. “Even though \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pornography#\">the work I do is 1,000 percent legal\u003c/a>, it doesn’t mean they won’t shut down my account or they won’t take my money away.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Backpage started processing payments in cryptocurrency soon after \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/matthewzeitlin/backpagecom-cut-off-from-credit-card-networks\">Visa and Mastercard cut off ties with the website in 2015\u003c/a> as allegations grew that it was complicit in sex trafficking. Finally in 2018, \u003ca href=\"https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-leads-effort-seize-backpagecom-internet-s-leading-forum-prostitution-ads\">the Department of Justice seized the website and shut it down for “facilitating prostitution.”\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The limits of traditional banking\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>A few days after the end of Backpage, Congress \u003ca href=\"https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-115publ164/pdf/PLAW-115publ164.pdf\">passed a series of bills into law aimed at curbing sex trafficking.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The laws, known as the Allow States and Victims To Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA) and the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act (SESTA), attempted to shut down websites that facilitated sex trafficking online by increasing liability for third-party platforms — like Pornhub, RedTube and others — if they hosted content which played any role in facilitating sex trafficking or other illegal activities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"arts_13897823\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/06/nft-artists-composite.jpg\"]Sex workers and advocates for the industry warned that, while the laws were well-intentioned and addressed an important problem, the laws were too vaguely written and could harm sex workers and porn performers conducting their business legally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure enough, in the years that followed, \u003ca href=\"https://lgbtq-economics.org/research/shut-down-shut-out/?fbclid=IwAR2G-691ykt7zDId3KGheoFdLujwbZP_rYhcEE1NSjFWF77_eFXfdlcouJw\">banks like JP Morgan Chase and Bank of America cracked down on sex workers\u003c/a> using their financial services and shut down many accounts, for fear of being perceived to be complicit by federal regulators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Folks had their accounts closed by either banks or fintech companies that also frequently froze the money they had in those accounts, and they had difficulties getting that back,” said Spencer Watson, Executive Director of the Center for LGBTQ Economic Advancement and Research (CLEAR), a Bay-Area based advocacy group. “Some were completely unable to get that back or some had to wait weeks or more in order to have the check from the proceeds of their bank account delivered to them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Alexandria LaRue, Sex worker\"]‘Even though the work I do is 1,000 percent legal, it doesn’t mean [banks] won’t shut down my account or they won’t take my money away.’[/pullquote]In 2019, the Sex Workers Outreach Project’s (SWOP) Sacramento branch and non-profit Reframe Health + Justice \u003ca href=\"https://lgbtq-economics.org/research/shut-down-shut-out/?fbclid=IwAR2G-691ykt7zDId3KGheoFdLujwbZP_rYhcEE1NSjFWF77_eFXfdlcouJw\">conducted a national survey of more than 60 sex workers and their experiences with traditional banking systems\u003c/a>. Almost half of the respondents said they had their accounts closed or denied by national banks and almost a third were told their account had been closed for a violation of the company’s terms and conditions of service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These companies have a strong profit motive and they’re also risk-averse,” Watson said. “And so the risk of dealing with individuals who work in sex work or in adult professions and businesses is a really strong deterrent for them to actually provide service.”\u003cbr>\n[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>“This is the future, this is where stuff is going to go”\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>LaRue, also a Chapter Director for SWOP, felt like cryptocurrency was the only way to secure their financial future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I just integrated it into part of my life because I knew this is the future, this is where stuff is going to go,” they said. “There was information about it online, of course, and I spent a lot of time on Reddit trying to educate myself on what it is, how it works.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cryptocurrency-focused entrepreneurs saw an underserved market in the adult entertainment industry. Startups have popped up with snappy names like CumRocket, TitCoin and Model-X. Until federal regulators start to write laws that take into account cryptocurrency, these companies can operate outside the rules traditional banks must follow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11860999\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/02/Protest_1-1-1020x573.png\"]When banks like JP Morgan Chase and Bank of America do provide service to adult entertainment websites, they often \u003ca href=\"https://www.ft.com/content/a6b5f2ca-daeb-483f-8004-d8189d99ded3\">charge high rates, because of a high frequency of “chargebacks,”\u003c/a> when a customer disputes a charge on their account statement and claims the charge was made fraudulently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cryptocurrency, on the other hand, is immutable, so it can’t be disputed or taken back. Once a payment is made, it’s accounted for on the distributed ledger and is set in stone. Adult entertainment sites that accept cryptocurrency, instead of payment from traditional banks, don’t have to pay high fees from those cryptocurrency platforms and therefore don’t pass along the cost to the performers who post their content on their sites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>LaRue was one of the early adopters of SpankChain, a website on which adult entertainers can post explicit pictures and videos and get paid for their work in cryptocurrency. The company launched BOOTY ERC20, which has a lower volatility in value than a cryptocurrency coin like Bitcoin or Ether. It also recently launched Spank Pop Shots, where customers can buy one-of-a-kind digital, erotic pictures of models and performers called nonfungible tokens (NFTs).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But cryptocurrency still remains a mystery to many porn performers looking for alternative banking solutions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sage the Flame, a performer based in Atlanta, started out in adult entertainment by posting erotic pictures on Snapchat. She handled money through PayPal, but the company eventually flagged her account for suspicious activity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"arts_13901451\" hero=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/08/022_SanFrancisco_TransgenderDistrictStaff_07292021-1020x680.jpg\"]“I guess my account got flagged just because of the small frequent payments that were happening on my account,” Sage said. “And they were just like, this is against our terms of service. You’re banned for life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company held almost $2,000 in her account for six months. Sage had to ask family members for help to cover bills and rent payments. After getting her money back, Sage decided to turn to OnlyFans to post content. She found it easy to use and was pleased to see a specialized payment platform built into the website.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It definitely made the whole process of keeping fans engaged, selling them content, interacting with them — it definitely made that process a lot easier and a lot more streamlined,” Sage said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the pandemic hit, Sage’s popularity on OnlyFans skyrocketed and she was able to make a steady income from her channel. But then in August, OnlyFans announced it would have to start banning sexually explicit content because of pressure from credit card companies and banks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/OnlyFans/status/1429117407340240902?s=20\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sage started looking for other websites she could post her content to. The company reversed its decision six days later, but Sage and other performers no longer trusted the platform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It feels like the rug has been pulled up under us,” she said. “Why are we so disposable as a community? Why are we being discarded like this?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now Sage is working to diversify her platforms and post content to other sites. She asks customers to pay her on other financial platforms and keep the memo tab blank so her account doesn’t get flagged. But she’s not ready to switch to crypto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Unfortunately, cryptocurrency is not a convenient payment that everyone is accepting or everyone knows how to use,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>“Crypto is \u003cem>a\u003c/em> solution, not \u003cem>the\u003c/em> solution” \u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Allie Knox, a fetish and porn performer, was one of the first performers to accept cryptocurrency payments exclusively and is one of the loudest voices in the sex work cryptocurrency space. She started shooting porn in 2014 and almost immediately got shut out from payment apps including PayPal, Square, Cash App and Stripe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Left with no other choice, Knox started using cryptocurrency. She signed up with Coinbase, one of the largest crypto exchange platforms, and quickly became an expert in how to invest in the crypto market.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label ='Related Stories' tag='technology']Knox believed in cryptocurrency’s promise to provide financial services to everyone, regardless of their profession, but that belief shattered when CoinBase blocked her account in 2016 for “suspicious activity.” CoinBase has since \u003ca href=\"https://www.coinbase.com/legal/user_agreement/united_states#appendix-1-prohibited-use-prohibited-businesses-and-conditional-use\">prohibited the use of accounts connected with adult content and services\u003c/a>, even though the production and distribution of pornography is legal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Technology is never going to solve these social issues and that’s really what this is,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She helped launch SpankChain and now serves as an advisor to the company. But Knox says there are real challenges with using cryptocurrency and getting an entire industry to come on board. She says it’s difficult to use and not as accessible as it promises to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have lost a lot of money in addition to making a lot of money. Crypto is a solution, not the solution,” Knox said.\u003cbr>\n[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Ever since Congress passed a series of laws in 2018, it's been difficult for adult entertainment and sex workers to find platforms that will provide them with financial services. But cryptocurrencies are stepping in to fill that gap.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1726872613,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":34,"wordCount":1648},"headData":{"title":"When Banks Turned Their Backs on Them, Some Adult Entertainment Workers Turned to Cryptocurrency | KQED","description":"Ever since Congress passed a series of laws in 2018, it's been difficult for adult entertainment and sex workers to find platforms that will provide them with financial services. 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Bank of America and other large banks \u003ca href=\"https://www.bankofamerica.com/deposits/deposit-holds-faqs/\">are allowed to freeze deposits or entire accounts\u003c/a> if they believe fraud or suspicious activity is occurring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It feels like nothing is a safe space or a safe place, especially when it comes to finances,” LaRue, who posted pornographic videos online, said. “Even though \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pornography#\">the work I do is 1,000 percent legal\u003c/a>, it doesn’t mean they won’t shut down my account or they won’t take my money away.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Backpage started processing payments in cryptocurrency soon after \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/matthewzeitlin/backpagecom-cut-off-from-credit-card-networks\">Visa and Mastercard cut off ties with the website in 2015\u003c/a> as allegations grew that it was complicit in sex trafficking. Finally in 2018, \u003ca href=\"https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-leads-effort-seize-backpagecom-internet-s-leading-forum-prostitution-ads\">the Department of Justice seized the website and shut it down for “facilitating prostitution.”\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The limits of traditional banking\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>A few days after the end of Backpage, Congress \u003ca href=\"https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-115publ164/pdf/PLAW-115publ164.pdf\">passed a series of bills into law aimed at curbing sex trafficking.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The laws, known as the Allow States and Victims To Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA) and the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act (SESTA), attempted to shut down websites that facilitated sex trafficking online by increasing liability for third-party platforms — like Pornhub, RedTube and others — if they hosted content which played any role in facilitating sex trafficking or other illegal activities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13897823","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/06/nft-artists-composite.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Sex workers and advocates for the industry warned that, while the laws were well-intentioned and addressed an important problem, the laws were too vaguely written and could harm sex workers and porn performers conducting their business legally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure enough, in the years that followed, \u003ca href=\"https://lgbtq-economics.org/research/shut-down-shut-out/?fbclid=IwAR2G-691ykt7zDId3KGheoFdLujwbZP_rYhcEE1NSjFWF77_eFXfdlcouJw\">banks like JP Morgan Chase and Bank of America cracked down on sex workers\u003c/a> using their financial services and shut down many accounts, for fear of being perceived to be complicit by federal regulators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Folks had their accounts closed by either banks or fintech companies that also frequently froze the money they had in those accounts, and they had difficulties getting that back,” said Spencer Watson, Executive Director of the Center for LGBTQ Economic Advancement and Research (CLEAR), a Bay-Area based advocacy group. “Some were completely unable to get that back or some had to wait weeks or more in order to have the check from the proceeds of their bank account delivered to them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"‘Even though the work I do is 1,000 percent legal, it doesn’t mean [banks] won’t shut down my account or they won’t take my money away.’","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"align":"right","size":"medium","citation":"Alexandria LaRue, Sex worker","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>In 2019, the Sex Workers Outreach Project’s (SWOP) Sacramento branch and non-profit Reframe Health + Justice \u003ca href=\"https://lgbtq-economics.org/research/shut-down-shut-out/?fbclid=IwAR2G-691ykt7zDId3KGheoFdLujwbZP_rYhcEE1NSjFWF77_eFXfdlcouJw\">conducted a national survey of more than 60 sex workers and their experiences with traditional banking systems\u003c/a>. Almost half of the respondents said they had their accounts closed or denied by national banks and almost a third were told their account had been closed for a violation of the company’s terms and conditions of service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These companies have a strong profit motive and they’re also risk-averse,” Watson said. “And so the risk of dealing with individuals who work in sex work or in adult professions and businesses is a really strong deterrent for them to actually provide service.”\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>“This is the future, this is where stuff is going to go”\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>LaRue, also a Chapter Director for SWOP, felt like cryptocurrency was the only way to secure their financial future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I just integrated it into part of my life because I knew this is the future, this is where stuff is going to go,” they said. “There was information about it online, of course, and I spent a lot of time on Reddit trying to educate myself on what it is, how it works.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cryptocurrency-focused entrepreneurs saw an underserved market in the adult entertainment industry. Startups have popped up with snappy names like CumRocket, TitCoin and Model-X. Until federal regulators start to write laws that take into account cryptocurrency, these companies can operate outside the rules traditional banks must follow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11860999","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/02/Protest_1-1-1020x573.png","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>When banks like JP Morgan Chase and Bank of America do provide service to adult entertainment websites, they often \u003ca href=\"https://www.ft.com/content/a6b5f2ca-daeb-483f-8004-d8189d99ded3\">charge high rates, because of a high frequency of “chargebacks,”\u003c/a> when a customer disputes a charge on their account statement and claims the charge was made fraudulently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cryptocurrency, on the other hand, is immutable, so it can’t be disputed or taken back. Once a payment is made, it’s accounted for on the distributed ledger and is set in stone. Adult entertainment sites that accept cryptocurrency, instead of payment from traditional banks, don’t have to pay high fees from those cryptocurrency platforms and therefore don’t pass along the cost to the performers who post their content on their sites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>LaRue was one of the early adopters of SpankChain, a website on which adult entertainers can post explicit pictures and videos and get paid for their work in cryptocurrency. The company launched BOOTY ERC20, which has a lower volatility in value than a cryptocurrency coin like Bitcoin or Ether. It also recently launched Spank Pop Shots, where customers can buy one-of-a-kind digital, erotic pictures of models and performers called nonfungible tokens (NFTs).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But cryptocurrency still remains a mystery to many porn performers looking for alternative banking solutions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sage the Flame, a performer based in Atlanta, started out in adult entertainment by posting erotic pictures on Snapchat. She handled money through PayPal, but the company eventually flagged her account for suspicious activity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13901451","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/2/2021/08/022_SanFrancisco_TransgenderDistrictStaff_07292021-1020x680.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“I guess my account got flagged just because of the small frequent payments that were happening on my account,” Sage said. “And they were just like, this is against our terms of service. You’re banned for life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company held almost $2,000 in her account for six months. Sage had to ask family members for help to cover bills and rent payments. After getting her money back, Sage decided to turn to OnlyFans to post content. She found it easy to use and was pleased to see a specialized payment platform built into the website.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It definitely made the whole process of keeping fans engaged, selling them content, interacting with them — it definitely made that process a lot easier and a lot more streamlined,” Sage said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the pandemic hit, Sage’s popularity on OnlyFans skyrocketed and she was able to make a steady income from her channel. But then in August, OnlyFans announced it would have to start banning sexually explicit content because of pressure from credit card companies and banks.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1429117407340240902"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Sage started looking for other websites she could post her content to. The company reversed its decision six days later, but Sage and other performers no longer trusted the platform.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It feels like the rug has been pulled up under us,” she said. “Why are we so disposable as a community? Why are we being discarded like this?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now Sage is working to diversify her platforms and post content to other sites. She asks customers to pay her on other financial platforms and keep the memo tab blank so her account doesn’t get flagged. But she’s not ready to switch to crypto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Unfortunately, cryptocurrency is not a convenient payment that everyone is accepting or everyone knows how to use,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>“Crypto is \u003cem>a\u003c/em> solution, not \u003cem>the\u003c/em> solution” \u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Allie Knox, a fetish and porn performer, was one of the first performers to accept cryptocurrency payments exclusively and is one of the loudest voices in the sex work cryptocurrency space. She started shooting porn in 2014 and almost immediately got shut out from payment apps including PayPal, Square, Cash App and Stripe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Left with no other choice, Knox started using cryptocurrency. She signed up with Coinbase, one of the largest crypto exchange platforms, and quickly became an expert in how to invest in the crypto market.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","tag":"technology"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Knox believed in cryptocurrency’s promise to provide financial services to everyone, regardless of their profession, but that belief shattered when CoinBase blocked her account in 2016 for “suspicious activity.” CoinBase has since \u003ca href=\"https://www.coinbase.com/legal/user_agreement/united_states#appendix-1-prohibited-use-prohibited-businesses-and-conditional-use\">prohibited the use of accounts connected with adult content and services\u003c/a>, even though the production and distribution of pornography is legal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Technology is never going to solve these social issues and that’s really what this is,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She helped launch SpankChain and now serves as an advisor to the company. But Knox says there are real challenges with using cryptocurrency and getting an entire industry to come on board. She says it’s difficult to use and not as accessible as it promises to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have lost a lot of money in addition to making a lot of money. 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In particular, the stretch between 42nd and 83rd avenues is home to hundreds of Mexican panaderias, Vietnamese nail salons, Black barber shops and other minority-owned businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before COVID-19 hit, this busy thoroughfare was bustling with foot traffic. But more than a year into the pandemic, almost every other shop is boarded up or closed with metal gates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Across the United States, as the pandemic ravaged local economies, scores of small-business owners applied for forgivable Paycheck Protection Program loans, a federal initiative that injected some $700 billion into businesses as much of the economy shut down. Many often waited months to receive support as they struggled to stay afloat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"related coverage\" tag=\"paycheck-protection-program\"]Yet, \u003ca href=\"https://revealnews.org/article/which-neighborhoods-were-neglected-by-the-paycheck-protection-program/\">a Reveal analysis\u003c/a> of more than 5 million PPP loans issued during the first two rounds of funding from April through August found sweeping racial disparities in how that money was distributed, with businesses in largely white neighborhoods receiving loans at a far greater rate than those in neighborhoods with significant minority populations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Such was the case in this stretch of East Oakland along International Boulevard, where just about 5% of businesses received PPP loans during that period, the analysis found.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Compare that to the 49% of businesses who received PPP loans in Montclair, a predominantly white neighborhood in the nearby Oakland Hills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The loan data, which Reveal obtained after successfully suing the U.S. Small Business Administration, provides the number of loans issued per location, but does not include the number of applicants, which means the approval/denial rate in each area is unclear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[Read more about the methodology of Reveal’s analysis \u003ca href=\"https://revealnews.org/article/which-neighborhoods-were-neglected-by-the-paycheck-protection-program/\">here\u003c/a>.]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Therefore, the low loan rates in many communities of color may have resulted from a large percentage of businesses not applying — as opposed to having had their applications rejected.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the results are nonetheless disturbing to equitable lending advocates, who note that under federal law, banks must meet the credit needs of the communities they operate in, income notwithstanding. And regardless of whether businesses in many Black and brown communities simply didn’t apply for PPP loans or were rejected, the gaping disparities in reception rates suggest the program failed to effectively serve all communities equally, those advocates say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many small-business owners, particularly non-English speakers, say they\u003ca href=\"https://smallbusinessmajority.org/press-release/ppp-application-deadline-expires-small-business-majority-releases-stories-struggling-small-business-owners\"> struggled to navigate the complicated PPP application process\u003c/a> or find the resources needed to help them apply.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv style=\"width: 100%\" align=\"center\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1000\" height=\"800\" frameborder=\"0\" src=\"https://mgreen.carto.com/builder/c0d6b729-9e21-460a-a814-fce1a83e060e/embed\" scrolling=\"yes\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/div>\n\u003ch2>\u003c/h2>\n\u003ch2>Questionable Distribution\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Farid Ahmed Bakhtary owns Yummy Grill, an Afghan kebab shop nestled between a strip mall and King Street on International Boulevard. He applied for a PPP loan through Chase Bank three different times, and was declined each time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve gone through all this struggle and hardship,” Bakhtary said. “Hopefully, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He eventually applied through \u003ca href=\"https://www.lendio.com/\">Lendio\u003c/a>, a Utah-based small-business specialist, to get his loan approved. “Some of these big banks, I think it’s not helping the small businesses,” Bakhtary said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Iba Reller, a spokeswoman for Chase Bank, wouldn’t speak specifically about East Oakland or Yummy Grill, but said that nationally more than 32% of her bank’s PPP loans in 2020 were to small businesses in communities of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11872235\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11872235 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Similar to other once busy thoroughfares around the Bay, International Boulevard has suffered during the pandemic. After receiving little to no support from the federal government or banks, some businesses have been forced to close. \" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Similar to other once-busy thoroughfares in cities around the Bay Area, International Boulevard in East Oakland has suffered during the pandemic. After receiving little to no support from the federal government or banks, some businesses have been forced to close. \u003ccite>(Adhiti Bandlamudi/KQED News)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Our goal has always been to help as many customers — and their employees — as possible,” Reller said in an email. “We proactively marketed the program specifically to minority-owned businesses, in English and in Spanish, to ensure awareness and how to apply.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Reveal’s analysis found that Chase Bank, one of the biggest PPP lenders, approved about 6,600 PPP loans during the first two rounds of the program in the \u003ca href=\"https://censusreporter.org/profiles/31000US41860-san-francisco-oakland-berkeley-ca-metro-area/\">San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley metropolitan region\u003c/a> (which includes San Francisco, much of the East Bay and some cities in the South Bay and North Bay). But just over 250 of those went to businesses in predominantly Latinx commercial neighborhoods and a meager 14 to those in predominantly Black neighborhoods, while almost 3,000 went to businesses in white neighborhoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>‘We Knew There Was Going to Be a Problem’\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Paulina Gonzalez-Brito, executive director of the nonprofit \u003ca href=\"https://calreinvest.org/\">California Reinvestment Coalition\u003c/a>, says she was not surprised to find communities of color struggling to land support from the federal government’s PPP loan program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As soon as we saw the government was going to run the PPP program through the banks, we knew that there was going to be a problem for these small-business owners,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11873194\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1.png\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11873194\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1-1020x605.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"380\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1-1020x605.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1-800x474.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1-160x95.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1.png 1240w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mixed neighborhoods refer to U.S. Census tracts with no racial majority. \u003cbr>Data provided by \u003ca href=\"https://revealnews.org/article/which-neighborhoods-were-neglected-by-the-paycheck-protection-program/\">Reveal\u003c/a> based on figures from the U.S. Small Business Administration, and the U.S. Census, Department of Housing and Urban Development, and Postal Service. \u003ccite>(Chart by Adhiti Bandlamudi)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Chase Bank isn’t the only bank that made a disproportionate share of its PPP loan to businesses in predominantly white neighborhoods. On the whole, Latinx and Black neighborhoods in the Bay Area received the lowest percentage of PPP loans from all major banks and credit unions, further increasing the wealth gap already widened during the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gonzales-Brito is also concerned with how much big banks profited during the pandemic from individual retail customers. In the last three months of 2020, 12 of America’s 15 largest banks, including Chase Bank, Wells Fargo and Bank of America, each \u003ca href=\"https://prospect.org/economy/big-banks-charged-billions-in-overdraft-fees-during-pandemic/\">made more than $1 billion\u003c/a> in overdraft fees. Gonzalez-Brito points out that communities of color are more likely to be affected by these fees, especially during the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s the way our banks, for generations, have not worked for our communities,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>Editor’s note: KQED is among the local businesses and media organizations that have received a Paycheck Protection Program loan. This helps us continue to provide essential information and service to our audiences during the COVID-19 pandemic.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was done in collaboration with the Center for Investigative Reporting’s Reveal podcast. Read the original investigation, which looked at businesses in Southern California, \u003ca href=\"https://revealnews.org/article/rampant-racial-disparities-plagued-how-billions-of-dollars-in-PPP-loans-were-distributed-in-the-U.S/\">here\u003c/a>.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The Paycheck Protection Program promised to support small businesses as they struggled through the pandemic. But businesses in predominantly white neighborhoods received a much greater percentage of PPP loans than those in neighborhoods of color. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721157227,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":true,"iframeSrcs":["https://mgreen.carto.com/builder/c0d6b729-9e21-460a-a814-fce1a83e060e/embed"],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":1088},"headData":{"title":"Unequal Distribution: How Businesses in East Oakland and Other Communities of Color Missed Out on PPP Loans | KQED","description":"The Paycheck Protection Program promised to support small businesses as they struggled through the pandemic. But businesses in predominantly white neighborhoods received a much greater percentage of PPP loans than those in neighborhoods of color. 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In particular, the stretch between 42nd and 83rd avenues is home to hundreds of Mexican panaderias, Vietnamese nail salons, Black barber shops and other minority-owned businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before COVID-19 hit, this busy thoroughfare was bustling with foot traffic. But more than a year into the pandemic, almost every other shop is boarded up or closed with metal gates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Across the United States, as the pandemic ravaged local economies, scores of small-business owners applied for forgivable Paycheck Protection Program loans, a federal initiative that injected some $700 billion into businesses as much of the economy shut down. Many often waited months to receive support as they struggled to stay afloat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"related coverage ","tag":"paycheck-protection-program"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Yet, \u003ca href=\"https://revealnews.org/article/which-neighborhoods-were-neglected-by-the-paycheck-protection-program/\">a Reveal analysis\u003c/a> of more than 5 million PPP loans issued during the first two rounds of funding from April through August found sweeping racial disparities in how that money was distributed, with businesses in largely white neighborhoods receiving loans at a far greater rate than those in neighborhoods with significant minority populations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Such was the case in this stretch of East Oakland along International Boulevard, where just about 5% of businesses received PPP loans during that period, the analysis found.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Compare that to the 49% of businesses who received PPP loans in Montclair, a predominantly white neighborhood in the nearby Oakland Hills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The loan data, which Reveal obtained after successfully suing the U.S. Small Business Administration, provides the number of loans issued per location, but does not include the number of applicants, which means the approval/denial rate in each area is unclear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[Read more about the methodology of Reveal’s analysis \u003ca href=\"https://revealnews.org/article/which-neighborhoods-were-neglected-by-the-paycheck-protection-program/\">here\u003c/a>.]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Therefore, the low loan rates in many communities of color may have resulted from a large percentage of businesses not applying — as opposed to having had their applications rejected.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the results are nonetheless disturbing to equitable lending advocates, who note that under federal law, banks must meet the credit needs of the communities they operate in, income notwithstanding. And regardless of whether businesses in many Black and brown communities simply didn’t apply for PPP loans or were rejected, the gaping disparities in reception rates suggest the program failed to effectively serve all communities equally, those advocates say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many small-business owners, particularly non-English speakers, say they\u003ca href=\"https://smallbusinessmajority.org/press-release/ppp-application-deadline-expires-small-business-majority-releases-stories-struggling-small-business-owners\"> struggled to navigate the complicated PPP application process\u003c/a> or find the resources needed to help them apply.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv style=\"width: 100%\" align=\"center\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1000\" height=\"800\" frameborder=\"0\" src=\"https://mgreen.carto.com/builder/c0d6b729-9e21-460a-a814-fce1a83e060e/embed\" scrolling=\"yes\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/div>\n\u003ch2>\u003c/h2>\n\u003ch2>Questionable Distribution\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Farid Ahmed Bakhtary owns Yummy Grill, an Afghan kebab shop nestled between a strip mall and King Street on International Boulevard. He applied for a PPP loan through Chase Bank three different times, and was declined each time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve gone through all this struggle and hardship,” Bakhtary said. “Hopefully, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He eventually applied through \u003ca href=\"https://www.lendio.com/\">Lendio\u003c/a>, a Utah-based small-business specialist, to get his loan approved. “Some of these big banks, I think it’s not helping the small businesses,” Bakhtary said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Iba Reller, a spokeswoman for Chase Bank, wouldn’t speak specifically about East Oakland or Yummy Grill, but said that nationally more than 32% of her bank’s PPP loans in 2020 were to small businesses in communities of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11872235\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11872235 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Similar to other once busy thoroughfares around the Bay, International Boulevard has suffered during the pandemic. After receiving little to no support from the federal government or banks, some businesses have been forced to close. \" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/Image-from-iOS-1-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Similar to other once-busy thoroughfares in cities around the Bay Area, International Boulevard in East Oakland has suffered during the pandemic. After receiving little to no support from the federal government or banks, some businesses have been forced to close. \u003ccite>(Adhiti Bandlamudi/KQED News)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Our goal has always been to help as many customers — and their employees — as possible,” Reller said in an email. “We proactively marketed the program specifically to minority-owned businesses, in English and in Spanish, to ensure awareness and how to apply.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Reveal’s analysis found that Chase Bank, one of the biggest PPP lenders, approved about 6,600 PPP loans during the first two rounds of the program in the \u003ca href=\"https://censusreporter.org/profiles/31000US41860-san-francisco-oakland-berkeley-ca-metro-area/\">San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley metropolitan region\u003c/a> (which includes San Francisco, much of the East Bay and some cities in the South Bay and North Bay). But just over 250 of those went to businesses in predominantly Latinx commercial neighborhoods and a meager 14 to those in predominantly Black neighborhoods, while almost 3,000 went to businesses in white neighborhoods.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>‘We Knew There Was Going to Be a Problem’\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Paulina Gonzalez-Brito, executive director of the nonprofit \u003ca href=\"https://calreinvest.org/\">California Reinvestment Coalition\u003c/a>, says she was not surprised to find communities of color struggling to land support from the federal government’s PPP loan program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As soon as we saw the government was going to run the PPP program through the banks, we knew that there was going to be a problem for these small-business owners,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11873194\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1.png\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11873194\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1-1020x605.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"380\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1-1020x605.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1-800x474.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1-160x95.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/mcGAM-how-big-banks-distributed-ppp-loans-4-1.png 1240w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mixed neighborhoods refer to U.S. Census tracts with no racial majority. \u003cbr>Data provided by \u003ca href=\"https://revealnews.org/article/which-neighborhoods-were-neglected-by-the-paycheck-protection-program/\">Reveal\u003c/a> based on figures from the U.S. Small Business Administration, and the U.S. Census, Department of Housing and Urban Development, and Postal Service. \u003ccite>(Chart by Adhiti Bandlamudi)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Chase Bank isn’t the only bank that made a disproportionate share of its PPP loan to businesses in predominantly white neighborhoods. On the whole, Latinx and Black neighborhoods in the Bay Area received the lowest percentage of PPP loans from all major banks and credit unions, further increasing the wealth gap already widened during the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gonzales-Brito is also concerned with how much big banks profited during the pandemic from individual retail customers. In the last three months of 2020, 12 of America’s 15 largest banks, including Chase Bank, Wells Fargo and Bank of America, each \u003ca href=\"https://prospect.org/economy/big-banks-charged-billions-in-overdraft-fees-during-pandemic/\">made more than $1 billion\u003c/a> in overdraft fees. Gonzalez-Brito points out that communities of color are more likely to be affected by these fees, especially during the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s the way our banks, for generations, have not worked for our communities,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>Editor’s note: KQED is among the local businesses and media organizations that have received a Paycheck Protection Program loan. This helps us continue to provide essential information and service to our audiences during the COVID-19 pandemic.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was done in collaboration with the Center for Investigative Reporting’s Reveal podcast. Read the original investigation, which looked at businesses in Southern California, \u003ca href=\"https://revealnews.org/article/rampant-racial-disparities-plagued-how-billions-of-dollars-in-PPP-loans-were-distributed-in-the-U.S/\">here\u003c/a>.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11872011/unequal-distribution-how-businesses-in-east-oakland-and-other-communities-of-color-missed-out-on-ppp-loans","authors":["11672","1263"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8"],"tags":["news_27510","news_21368","news_18066","news_20013","news_27626","news_18543","news_27814","news_20920"],"featImg":"news_11872228","label":"news"},"news_11760838":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11760838","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11760838","score":null,"sort":[1563048033000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1563048033,"format":"audio","disqusTitle":"Despite a Growing Latino Middle Class, California Families Face Hurdles Getting There","title":"Despite a Growing Latino Middle Class, California Families Face Hurdles Getting There","headTitle":"The California Dream | The California Report | KQED News","content":"\u003cp>[dropcap]O[/dropcap]ne recent Saturday morning, about 100 people sat on folding chairs in a hall at the First Christian Church in Downey. They were there for the church’s weekly food distribution. Volunteers called out names from a list as people waited their turn to get in line for donated groceries. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among those waiting was Janette Perez. She sat in one row of chairs, holding her baby boy in her lap. Her 6-year-old-son played nearby. It was their first time here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11759939 label='Related Coverage']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was told through my job that they were donating food here at the church, so I came by to see what they could give me, since we’re struggling right now,” Perez said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perez lives with her husband and two young children in South Gate, a short distance away. She and her husband both work. He installs car stereos. She works in nutrition at a Head Start preschool. But even with two incomes, she said, they’re just scraping by. It gets to her. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s really difficult,” she said, tearing up. “Our rent is like $1,375, and our car payment is almost $500, so we can’t afford anything right now.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11760864\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11760864\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">People arrive to the Downey First Christian Church every Saturday for groceries, pastries, coffee, and a time of community. \u003ccite>(Chava Sanchez/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Experts say that even as Latinos’ economic fortunes have risen in the U.S., with rising median incomes and the Latino poverty rate \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">at an all-time low\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, according to census data, many families face a host of obstacles to upward mobility, especially as housing and living costs increase. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unsteady work hours and a lack of access to banking and credit are among the issues that can get in the way. An education gap persists, despite rising high school graduation rates and college enrollment, according to experts. Filial duty and other family obligations can eat into finances. As for those who lack legal immigration status, opportunities have become increasingly limited. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And here, in California, the biggest challenge these days is the cost of housing. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Traditionally, saving up and buying property has been one of the main ways that Latino families have built wealth, said Jody Agius Vallejo, a University of Southern California sociologist. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s harder to do these days. While the median household income for Latinos in the U.S. is now over $50,000 a year, it doesn’t get you much in California, she said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside tag='income-inequality' label='The cost of living in California']\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“The high cost of housing in California is something that really threatens economic stability,” Vallejo said. “It’s not just the fact that home ownership costs are high. Even having to pay high rents can prevent people from saving to buy a home.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The National Association of Hispanic Real Estate Professionals \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">reported last year \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">that Latinos in California have a lower rate of home ownership than in other states where Latinos represent more than 30 percent of the population. This includes states like Texas, New Mexico and Arizona, where Latino median household income is lower than it is in California. Housing affordability is a major factor. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waiting her turn for groceries at the church, Perez said she and her husband wish they could buy a home, “so that my children have somewhere to live, so they won’t struggle the way we did,” she said. But it seems out of reach. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perez said her mom, a first-generation immigrant from Mexico, owns her home, but she’s struggled to make the payments since Perez’s father died about six years ago, so she can’t offer much help. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, Perez said, it’s impossible for them to save any money. Her job doesn’t pay over the summer, and her husband’s hours aren’t steady. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The hours are not the same as they used to be,” Perez said of her husband’s job. “He will work maybe five days out of the week, sometimes four days out of the week.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11760868\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11760868\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elvira Rodriguez, a volunteer at the food bank, unpacks a box full of orange juice. Volunteers themselves are often going through the same housing-related hardships as the people they serve. \u003ccite>(Chava Sanchez/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Unreliable hours are a problem for Latinos in lower-earning jobs, said Anthony Alvarez, an economic sociologist at Cal State Fullerton. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We still do see high levels of what we would call income volatility, meaning that you have changes in your income, from week to week or month to month, or even year to year,” Alvarez said. “This oftentimes makes it very difficult to accumulate savings.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While many groups are affected by income volatility, Latinos are \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">among those hardest hit\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. A 2017 report from Pew Charitable Trusts found that Latinos and people with a high school diploma or less are the most likely to face income losses from unsteady earnings. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A lack of savings and emergency funds also makes it difficult for families to establish good credit, Alvarez said. Adding to this challenge is the fact that while banking rates for Latinos are gradually improving, according to federal data, many remain unbanked or under-banked. \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">According to the federal FDIC\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, 14 percent of Latinos in 2017 did not use banking services. This is especially true among foreign-born, first-generation immigrants.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for the second generation, extended-family obligations can be a drag on finances, such as when a parent or other family member needs money for unexpected medical costs or an emergency expense, Alvarez said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And that makes it more difficult for you to actually meet your own bills,” Alvarez said. “So the next thing you know, you’re late on your credit card bill, or your car loan.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11760880\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11760880 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A cart loaded with fresh vegetables, eggs, and milk at the Downey Food Bank. Unreliable working hours and low-paying jobs are some of the main drivers of the Latino community's common struggles. \u003ccite>(Chava Sanchez/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Also, for some, there’s a very big obstacle: legal status. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the Pew Research Center, the population of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">has declined substantially \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">over the past decade or so, from an estimated peak of 12.2 million in 2007 to about 10.5 million in 2017. But recent policies have made it more difficult for people to adjust their immigration status. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the church in Downey, food bank volunteer Catherine Alvarez said she’s sponsoring her husband for a green card. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’s undocumented, so it’s really difficult for him to get a job and stay there for the long term,” said Alvarez, a Downey resident who was born in Colombia and is a naturalized U.S. citizen. “As soon as they don’t need him, they just let him go.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alvarez says her family of four has struggled to stay as renters in Downey, a city that’s long been a draw for middle-class Latinos, with its quiet residential streets and well-regarded schools. They wanted to keep their two teen boys in school there. But in recent years she’s had health problems that have required surgery and kept her from working, she said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her husband takes all the work he can, from construction to odd jobs: “If he needs to clean a toilet, he’ll do it,” Alvarez said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size='large' align='right' citation='Janette Perez, Downey mother of two']'Our rent is like $1,375, and our car payment is almost $500, so we can’t afford anything right now.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But at times it hasn’t been enough. About three years ago, when the family was hit with medical bills, they lost the apartment they were living in. They had to stay with friends and sometimes even in their car until they could raise enough to move into a new place, Alvarez said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s hopeful that if her husband gets legal status, it could change their fortunes. But she worries: What if he’s denied? \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I get sad because I don’t know,” Alvarez said. “I don’t know what’s going to happen.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the pathways to middle-class status becoming rockier, will future generations of California’s Latino families have a harder time cracking the ceiling? Perhaps, said USC sociologist Vallejo. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11760888\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11760888\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-536x402.jpg 536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Janette Perez holds her baby at the Downey First Christian Church in this undated photo. Perez said her family is barely scraping by, despite having two incomes. \u003ccite>(Leslie Berestein Rojas/KPCC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“The California of today does not hold the same kinds of opportunities that it did 30 years ago,” Vallejo said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But she added that there’s also reason for hope: The state has immigrant-friendly laws, she said, and has enacted recent policies like raising the minimum wage and expanding health care, widening the social safety net. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If we can make education accessible for all, if we can...invest in things like access to capital and helping ease people’s housing burdens,” Vallejo said, “all of these things could really help to promote economic stability.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before she left to collect her donated groceries, Janette Perez mentioned that her mother-in-law lives in Arizona. It’s cheaper there, and the thought of moving has crossed her mind – often. But her mother and siblings are in the Los Angeles area, which makes her reluctant to leave. As they stick it out in California, Perez said she tries to appreciate what they have. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I told my husband, you know what, at least we have somewhere to live,” Perez said. “There's a lot of people that don't even have a house. They have to live in someone's garage or like the homeless, that have to live in the street.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They at least have jobs, she said, and a roof over their heads. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And they’re grateful for that. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The California Dream series is a statewide media collaboration of CALmatters, KPBS, KPCC, KQED and Capital Public Radio, with support from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the James Irvine Foundation and the College Futures Foundation.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/CADreamBanner-1-800x219.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11759951\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/CADreamBanner-1-800x219.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"219\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/CADreamBanner-1-800x219.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/CADreamBanner-1-800x219-160x44.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","disqusIdentifier":"11760838 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11760838","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2019/07/13/despite-a-growing-latino-middle-class-california-families-face-hurdles-getting-there/","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":1807,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":45},"modified":1565912093,"excerpt":"Even as Latinos’ economic fortunes have risen with rising median incomes and an all-time low poverty rate, census data indicates many families face a host of obstacles, especially as housing and living costs climb.","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"Even as Latinos’ economic fortunes have risen with rising median incomes and an all-time low poverty rate, census data indicates many families face a host of obstacles, especially as housing and living costs climb.","title":"Despite a Growing Latino Middle Class, California Families Face Hurdles Getting There | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Despite a Growing Latino Middle Class, California Families Face Hurdles Getting There","datePublished":"2019-07-13T13:00:33-07:00","dateModified":"2019-08-15T16:34:53-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"despite-a-growing-latino-middle-class-california-families-face-hurdles-getting-there","status":"publish","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/RDnews/2019/08/CADreamLatinoMiddleClass2.mp3","nprByline":"Leslie Berestein Rojas \u003cbr>KPCC","audioTrackLength":307,"source":"KPCC","path":"/news/11760838/despite-a-growing-latino-middle-class-california-families-face-hurdles-getting-there","audioDuration":307000,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">O\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>ne recent Saturday morning, about 100 people sat on folding chairs in a hall at the First Christian Church in Downey. They were there for the church’s weekly food distribution. Volunteers called out names from a list as people waited their turn to get in line for donated groceries. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among those waiting was Janette Perez. She sat in one row of chairs, holding her baby boy in her lap. Her 6-year-old-son played nearby. It was their first time here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11759939","label":"Related Coverage "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was told through my job that they were donating food here at the church, so I came by to see what they could give me, since we’re struggling right now,” Perez said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perez lives with her husband and two young children in South Gate, a short distance away. She and her husband both work. He installs car stereos. She works in nutrition at a Head Start preschool. But even with two incomes, she said, they’re just scraping by. It gets to her. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s really difficult,” she said, tearing up. “Our rent is like $1,375, and our car payment is almost $500, so we can’t afford anything right now.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11760864\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11760864\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38055__DSF3049-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">People arrive to the Downey First Christian Church every Saturday for groceries, pastries, coffee, and a time of community. \u003ccite>(Chava Sanchez/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Experts say that even as Latinos’ economic fortunes have risen in the U.S., with rising median incomes and the Latino poverty rate \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">at an all-time low\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, according to census data, many families face a host of obstacles to upward mobility, especially as housing and living costs increase. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unsteady work hours and a lack of access to banking and credit are among the issues that can get in the way. An education gap persists, despite rising high school graduation rates and college enrollment, according to experts. Filial duty and other family obligations can eat into finances. As for those who lack legal immigration status, opportunities have become increasingly limited. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And here, in California, the biggest challenge these days is the cost of housing. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Traditionally, saving up and buying property has been one of the main ways that Latino families have built wealth, said Jody Agius Vallejo, a University of Southern California sociologist. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s harder to do these days. While the median household income for Latinos in the U.S. is now over $50,000 a year, it doesn’t get you much in California, she said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"tag":"income-inequality","label":"The cost of living in California "},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“The high cost of housing in California is something that really threatens economic stability,” Vallejo said. “It’s not just the fact that home ownership costs are high. Even having to pay high rents can prevent people from saving to buy a home.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The National Association of Hispanic Real Estate Professionals \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">reported last year \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">that Latinos in California have a lower rate of home ownership than in other states where Latinos represent more than 30 percent of the population. This includes states like Texas, New Mexico and Arizona, where Latino median household income is lower than it is in California. Housing affordability is a major factor. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Waiting her turn for groceries at the church, Perez said she and her husband wish they could buy a home, “so that my children have somewhere to live, so they won’t struggle the way we did,” she said. But it seems out of reach. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perez said her mom, a first-generation immigrant from Mexico, owns her home, but she’s struggled to make the payments since Perez’s father died about six years ago, so she can’t offer much help. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, Perez said, it’s impossible for them to save any money. Her job doesn’t pay over the summer, and her husband’s hours aren’t steady. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The hours are not the same as they used to be,” Perez said of her husband’s job. “He will work maybe five days out of the week, sometimes four days out of the week.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11760868\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11760868\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38056__DSF3064-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elvira Rodriguez, a volunteer at the food bank, unpacks a box full of orange juice. Volunteers themselves are often going through the same housing-related hardships as the people they serve. \u003ccite>(Chava Sanchez/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Unreliable hours are a problem for Latinos in lower-earning jobs, said Anthony Alvarez, an economic sociologist at Cal State Fullerton. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We still do see high levels of what we would call income volatility, meaning that you have changes in your income, from week to week or month to month, or even year to year,” Alvarez said. “This oftentimes makes it very difficult to accumulate savings.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While many groups are affected by income volatility, Latinos are \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">among those hardest hit\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. A 2017 report from Pew Charitable Trusts found that Latinos and people with a high school diploma or less are the most likely to face income losses from unsteady earnings. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A lack of savings and emergency funds also makes it difficult for families to establish good credit, Alvarez said. Adding to this challenge is the fact that while banking rates for Latinos are gradually improving, according to federal data, many remain unbanked or under-banked. \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">According to the federal FDIC\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, 14 percent of Latinos in 2017 did not use banking services. This is especially true among foreign-born, first-generation immigrants.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As for the second generation, extended-family obligations can be a drag on finances, such as when a parent or other family member needs money for unexpected medical costs or an emergency expense, Alvarez said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And that makes it more difficult for you to actually meet your own bills,” Alvarez said. “So the next thing you know, you’re late on your credit card bill, or your car loan.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11760880\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11760880 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38054__DSF2931-qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A cart loaded with fresh vegetables, eggs, and milk at the Downey Food Bank. Unreliable working hours and low-paying jobs are some of the main drivers of the Latino community's common struggles. \u003ccite>(Chava Sanchez/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Also, for some, there’s a very big obstacle: legal status. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the Pew Research Center, the population of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">has declined substantially \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">over the past decade or so, from an estimated peak of 12.2 million in 2007 to about 10.5 million in 2017. But recent policies have made it more difficult for people to adjust their immigration status. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the church in Downey, food bank volunteer Catherine Alvarez said she’s sponsoring her husband for a green card. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’s undocumented, so it’s really difficult for him to get a job and stay there for the long term,” said Alvarez, a Downey resident who was born in Colombia and is a naturalized U.S. citizen. “As soon as they don’t need him, they just let him go.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alvarez says her family of four has struggled to stay as renters in Downey, a city that’s long been a draw for middle-class Latinos, with its quiet residential streets and well-regarded schools. They wanted to keep their two teen boys in school there. But in recent years she’s had health problems that have required surgery and kept her from working, she said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her husband takes all the work he can, from construction to odd jobs: “If he needs to clean a toilet, he’ll do it,” Alvarez said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"'Our rent is like $1,375, and our car payment is almost $500, so we can’t afford anything right now.'","name":"pullquote","attributes":{"named":{"size":"large","align":"right","citation":"Janette Perez, Downey mother of two","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But at times it hasn’t been enough. About three years ago, when the family was hit with medical bills, they lost the apartment they were living in. They had to stay with friends and sometimes even in their car until they could raise enough to move into a new place, Alvarez said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s hopeful that if her husband gets legal status, it could change their fortunes. But she worries: What if he’s denied? \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I get sad because I don’t know,” Alvarez said. “I don’t know what’s going to happen.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the pathways to middle-class status becoming rockier, will future generations of California’s Latino families have a harder time cracking the ceiling? Perhaps, said USC sociologist Vallejo. \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11760888\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11760888\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-632x474.jpg 632w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/RS38058_Janette-Perez-qut-536x402.jpg 536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Janette Perez holds her baby at the Downey First Christian Church in this undated photo. Perez said her family is barely scraping by, despite having two incomes. \u003ccite>(Leslie Berestein Rojas/KPCC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“The California of today does not hold the same kinds of opportunities that it did 30 years ago,” Vallejo said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But she added that there’s also reason for hope: The state has immigrant-friendly laws, she said, and has enacted recent policies like raising the minimum wage and expanding health care, widening the social safety net. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If we can make education accessible for all, if we can...invest in things like access to capital and helping ease people’s housing burdens,” Vallejo said, “all of these things could really help to promote economic stability.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before she left to collect her donated groceries, Janette Perez mentioned that her mother-in-law lives in Arizona. It’s cheaper there, and the thought of moving has crossed her mind – often. But her mother and siblings are in the Los Angeles area, which makes her reluctant to leave. As they stick it out in California, Perez said she tries to appreciate what they have. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I told my husband, you know what, at least we have somewhere to live,” Perez said. “There's a lot of people that don't even have a house. They have to live in someone's garage or like the homeless, that have to live in the street.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They at least have jobs, she said, and a roof over their heads. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And they’re grateful for that. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The California Dream series is a statewide media collaboration of CALmatters, KPBS, KPCC, KQED and Capital Public Radio, with support from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the James Irvine Foundation and the College Futures Foundation.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/CADreamBanner-1-800x219.jpg\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11759951\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/CADreamBanner-1-800x219.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"219\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/CADreamBanner-1-800x219.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2019/07/CADreamBanner-1-800x219-160x44.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11760838/despite-a-growing-latino-middle-class-california-families-face-hurdles-getting-there","authors":["byline_news_11760838"],"programs":["news_72"],"series":["news_21879"],"categories":["news_1758","news_24114","news_1169","news_8"],"tags":["news_21368","news_18545","news_20202","news_5096","news_18142"],"affiliates":["news_7055"],"featImg":"news_11760855","label":"source_news_11760838"},"news_11726034":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11726034","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11726034","score":null,"sort":[1550105165000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-treasurer-urges-congress-to-fully-open-banks-to-marijuana-industry","title":"California Treasurer Urges Congress to Fully Open Banks to Marijuana Industry","publishDate":1550105165,"format":"standard","headTitle":"California Treasurer Urges Congress to Fully Open Banks to Marijuana Industry | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>California State Treasurer Fiona Ma is asking Congress to pass legislation to make it easier for banks and credit unions to work with businesses that deal in cannabis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ma on Wednesday joined bank officials and cannabis advocates at a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Consumer Protection and Financial Institutions about the challenges that cannabis-related businesses face in accessing banking services, since cannabis is still illegal under federal law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She told members of the subcommittee that when she joined California’s Board of Equalization in 2014, she was surprised at how difficult it was for legal marijuana businesses to pay their state sales taxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Duffel bags and sometimes suitcases of cash would arrive quarterly at some of our designated offices, and some folks had to drive 350 miles just to pay their taxes,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ma and the others testifying asked members of the committee to fully open the doors of the U.S. banking system to the legal marijuana industry, a change that supporters say would reduce crime risks and resolve a litany of challenges for cannabis companies, from paying taxes to getting a loan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most Americans live in states where marijuana is legally available in some form, including California, which legalized recreational marijuana in 2016 and is the nation’s largest legal pot market.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But most banks don’t want anything to do with money from the cannabis industry, for fear it could expose them to legal trouble from the federal government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That conflict has left many growers and sellers in the burgeoning pot industry in a legal dilemma, shutting them out of everyday financial services like opening a bank account or obtaining a credit card. It also has forced many businesses to operate only in cash — sometimes vast amounts — making them ripe targets for crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Banking, government and industry representatives at the House hearing urged lawmakers to pass a proposal that would allow pot businesses to access loans, lines of credit and other banking services, while sheltering financial institutions from prosecution for handling pot money.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11714984/a-california-backed-marijuana-bank-state-study-says-unlikely\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">A California-backed Marijuana Bank? State Study Says Unlikely\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11714984/a-california-backed-marijuana-bank-state-study-says-unlikely\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/RS25526_GettyImages-542220918-qut-1020x678.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“In California, we have been trying to pass many pieces of legislation to either work around, go around or patch this issue of banking access, and we have come to the conclusion that we really need Congress to act,” Ma said. “Having a safe harbor for banks is probably the most expeditious way of getting more folks out of the black and gray markets and into the legitimate markets.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California lawmakers rejected a proposal last year that would have created a state-backed bank for the marijuana industry, and a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11714984/a-california-backed-marijuana-bank-state-study-says-unlikely\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recent report\u003c/a> commissioned by Ma’s predecessor, John Chiang, found that such a bank would require more than $1 billion in capital investment and fail to be profitable for 25 to 30 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ma called federal action a crucial step for the rapidly expanding industry. She cited \u003ca href=\"https://bdsanalytics.com/new-report-legal-marijuana-markets-projected-to-reach-23-4-billion-employ-nearly-a-half-million-americans-by-2022-effective-end-of-federal-prohibition-is-in-sight/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">another report\u003c/a> that projects consumer spending on legal cannabis in the U.S. will reach $23 billion by 2022, including more than $5 billion in California alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s critical we accommodate the magnitude of this economic uptick with access to banking for this new state-regulated industry,” Ma told lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She also noted other ancillary impacts of not having banking access for cannabis businesses, including people not reporting domestic violence for fear of police coming into their homes or businesses. She said people who don’t report their income from cannabis businesses may not be liable for child support or be eligible for full Social Security benefits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So there’s a lot of social impacts that are also affecting the communities by not having access to banking,” Ma said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gregory S. Deckard, who spoke on behalf of the Independent Community Bankers of America, said the cloud of legal uncertainty was inhibiting access to banks while creating safety hazards for businesses. The proposal, he said, “would offer the needed clarity” for more financial institutions to welcome the marijuana industry as customers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But others had concerns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Republican Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer of Missouri said the proposal would create confusion while marijuana remains illegal at the federal level. He questioned how banks would identify criminal operators and pointed to how Congress handled hemp, the low-THC cousin of the cannabis plant, which was removed from the list of federally controlled substances.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the banking legislation, “we are putting the cart before the horse,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Legalization advocates have reason to celebrate that the hearing simply took place, when the proposal — and other similar versions — have languished in the past.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Lawmakers are not being asked to weigh in on whether marijuana should be legal or not. They are simply looking at whether banking services should be available to these businesses in states where it is already legal,” said Mason Tvert of the Marijuana Policy Project, an advocacy group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The number of banks and credit unions willing to handle pot money is growing, but they still represent only a tiny fraction of the industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing comes days after Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden proposed legislation that would give states a free hand to allow legal cannabis markets without the threat of federal criminal intervention. The proposal would take marijuana off the federal controlled substances list and remove federal criminal penalties for individuals and businesses acting in compliance with state marijuana laws. An identical proposal is pending in the House.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Reporting from Nina Thorsen of KQED and Michael R. Blood of the Associated Press was used in this post.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"'We have come to the conclusion that we really need Congress to act,' Treasurer Fiona Ma told lawmakers, after efforts to create a state-backed bank for the marijuana industry sputtered.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721119509,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":949},"headData":{"title":"California Treasurer Urges Congress to Fully Open Banks to Marijuana Industry | KQED","description":"'We have come to the conclusion that we really need Congress to act,' Treasurer Fiona Ma told lawmakers, after efforts to create a state-backed bank for the marijuana industry sputtered.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"California Treasurer Urges Congress to Fully Open Banks to Marijuana Industry","datePublished":"2019-02-13T16:46:05-08:00","dateModified":"2024-07-16T01:45:09-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"path":"/news/11726034/california-treasurer-urges-congress-to-fully-open-banks-to-marijuana-industry","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>California State Treasurer Fiona Ma is asking Congress to pass legislation to make it easier for banks and credit unions to work with businesses that deal in cannabis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ma on Wednesday joined bank officials and cannabis advocates at a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Consumer Protection and Financial Institutions about the challenges that cannabis-related businesses face in accessing banking services, since cannabis is still illegal under federal law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She told members of the subcommittee that when she joined California’s Board of Equalization in 2014, she was surprised at how difficult it was for legal marijuana businesses to pay their state sales taxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Duffel bags and sometimes suitcases of cash would arrive quarterly at some of our designated offices, and some folks had to drive 350 miles just to pay their taxes,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ma and the others testifying asked members of the committee to fully open the doors of the U.S. banking system to the legal marijuana industry, a change that supporters say would reduce crime risks and resolve a litany of challenges for cannabis companies, from paying taxes to getting a loan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most Americans live in states where marijuana is legally available in some form, including California, which legalized recreational marijuana in 2016 and is the nation’s largest legal pot market.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But most banks don’t want anything to do with money from the cannabis industry, for fear it could expose them to legal trouble from the federal government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That conflict has left many growers and sellers in the burgeoning pot industry in a legal dilemma, shutting them out of everyday financial services like opening a bank account or obtaining a credit card. It also has forced many businesses to operate only in cash — sometimes vast amounts — making them ripe targets for crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Banking, government and industry representatives at the House hearing urged lawmakers to pass a proposal that would allow pot businesses to access loans, lines of credit and other banking services, while sheltering financial institutions from prosecution for handling pot money.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11714984/a-california-backed-marijuana-bank-state-study-says-unlikely\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">A California-backed Marijuana Bank? State Study Says Unlikely\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11714984/a-california-backed-marijuana-bank-state-study-says-unlikely\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/12/RS25526_GettyImages-542220918-qut-1020x678.jpg\" alt=\"\">\u003c/a>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“In California, we have been trying to pass many pieces of legislation to either work around, go around or patch this issue of banking access, and we have come to the conclusion that we really need Congress to act,” Ma said. “Having a safe harbor for banks is probably the most expeditious way of getting more folks out of the black and gray markets and into the legitimate markets.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California lawmakers rejected a proposal last year that would have created a state-backed bank for the marijuana industry, and a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11714984/a-california-backed-marijuana-bank-state-study-says-unlikely\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recent report\u003c/a> commissioned by Ma’s predecessor, John Chiang, found that such a bank would require more than $1 billion in capital investment and fail to be profitable for 25 to 30 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ma called federal action a crucial step for the rapidly expanding industry. She cited \u003ca href=\"https://bdsanalytics.com/new-report-legal-marijuana-markets-projected-to-reach-23-4-billion-employ-nearly-a-half-million-americans-by-2022-effective-end-of-federal-prohibition-is-in-sight/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">another report\u003c/a> that projects consumer spending on legal cannabis in the U.S. will reach $23 billion by 2022, including more than $5 billion in California alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s critical we accommodate the magnitude of this economic uptick with access to banking for this new state-regulated industry,” Ma told lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She also noted other ancillary impacts of not having banking access for cannabis businesses, including people not reporting domestic violence for fear of police coming into their homes or businesses. She said people who don’t report their income from cannabis businesses may not be liable for child support or be eligible for full Social Security benefits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So there’s a lot of social impacts that are also affecting the communities by not having access to banking,” Ma said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gregory S. Deckard, who spoke on behalf of the Independent Community Bankers of America, said the cloud of legal uncertainty was inhibiting access to banks while creating safety hazards for businesses. The proposal, he said, “would offer the needed clarity” for more financial institutions to welcome the marijuana industry as customers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But others had concerns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Republican Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer of Missouri said the proposal would create confusion while marijuana remains illegal at the federal level. He questioned how banks would identify criminal operators and pointed to how Congress handled hemp, the low-THC cousin of the cannabis plant, which was removed from the list of federally controlled substances.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the banking legislation, “we are putting the cart before the horse,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Legalization advocates have reason to celebrate that the hearing simply took place, when the proposal — and other similar versions — have languished in the past.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Lawmakers are not being asked to weigh in on whether marijuana should be legal or not. They are simply looking at whether banking services should be available to these businesses in states where it is already legal,” said Mason Tvert of the Marijuana Policy Project, an advocacy group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The number of banks and credit unions willing to handle pot money is growing, but they still represent only a tiny fraction of the industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hearing comes days after Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden proposed legislation that would give states a free hand to allow legal cannabis markets without the threat of federal criminal intervention. The proposal would take marijuana off the federal controlled substances list and remove federal criminal penalties for individuals and businesses acting in compliance with state marijuana laws. An identical proposal is pending in the House.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Reporting from Nina Thorsen of KQED and Michael R. Blood of the Associated Press was used in this post.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11726034/california-treasurer-urges-congress-to-fully-open-banks-to-marijuana-industry","authors":["237"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8"],"tags":["news_21368","news_19963","news_102","news_17968","news_22282"],"featImg":"news_11726081","label":"news_72"},"news_11714984":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11714984","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11714984","score":null,"sort":[1546024402000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"a-california-backed-marijuana-bank-state-study-says-unlikely","title":"A California-backed Marijuana Bank? State Study Says Unlikely","publishDate":1546024402,"format":"standard","headTitle":"A California-backed Marijuana Bank? State Study Says Unlikely | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":72,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>California would likely lose money and face insurmountable federal hurdles if it tried to create a state-backed bank for the marijuana industry, according to a report by the state treasurer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report puts an end, for now, to hopes that California could find a way to get around banking hurdles for marijuana businesses as the state’s recreational market concludes its first year in operation. A working group launched by state Treasurer John Chiang commissioned the study by a San Diego-based firm in January. State lawmakers rejected legislation for a state-backed bank earlier this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chiang used the report, released Thursday, to blast the Trump administration for cracking down on marijuana even though 33 states have legalized it for recreational or medicinal purposes. It remains a Schedule 1 drug under federal law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“While today’s announcement may not lay out the path some of us had hoped, it did reinforce the inconvenient reality that a definitive solution will remain elusive until the federal government takes action,” Chiang said. “They must either remove cannabis from its official list of banned narcotics or approve safe harbor legislation that protects banks serving cannabis businesses from prosecution.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many banks are nervous about running afoul of federal law by doing business with the industry, although some work with marijuana-related businesses. That forces pot businesses to deal in large sums of cash, a potential security risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chiang said he was hopeful a public bank could address that issue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need Washington D.C. to provide a clear solution that makes cannabis banking work for everyone,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California voters legalized recreational marijuana for adults in 2016 and the recreational sales industry launched Jan. 1, 2018. Chiang created a working group of banking, cannabis and other industry and government representatives to address conflicts between state and federal law. The group commissioned Level 4 Ventures to conduct a study on a state-backed bank’s feasibility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the firm’s findings, creating a state bank would likely waste taxpayer money, require $1 billion in capital investments and wouldn’t become profitable for 25 to 30 years. If federal law changes during that time, or if existing private banks decide to take on the risk of working with the growing cannabis industry, the need for California’s bank would disappear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Public banks are rarely successful, the report found. Only two exist, in North Dakota and American Samoa, and neither was created to deal with the marijuana industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The only effective long-term solution involves legislative and regulatory changes at the federal level to allow the legal banking of cannabis related funds,” the report concluded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report recommends California designate a state agency to help improve how it handles cash-based tax and other marijuana-related payments, lobby for changes to federal law and encourage existing private banks to work with cannabis businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California Attorney General Xavier Becerra’s office also concluded a public bank for marijuana business was not feasible, saying it would violate federal criminal statutes.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Though 33 states have legalized marijuana for recreational or medicinal purposes, it remains a Schedule 1 drug under federal law.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1721152928,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":15,"wordCount":520},"headData":{"title":"A California-backed Marijuana Bank? 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State Study Says Unlikely","datePublished":"2018-12-28T11:13:22-08:00","dateModified":"2024-07-16T11:02:08-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"path":"/news/11714984/a-california-backed-marijuana-bank-state-study-says-unlikely","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>California would likely lose money and face insurmountable federal hurdles if it tried to create a state-backed bank for the marijuana industry, according to a report by the state treasurer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report puts an end, for now, to hopes that California could find a way to get around banking hurdles for marijuana businesses as the state’s recreational market concludes its first year in operation. A working group launched by state Treasurer John Chiang commissioned the study by a San Diego-based firm in January. State lawmakers rejected legislation for a state-backed bank earlier this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chiang used the report, released Thursday, to blast the Trump administration for cracking down on marijuana even though 33 states have legalized it for recreational or medicinal purposes. It remains a Schedule 1 drug under federal law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“While today’s announcement may not lay out the path some of us had hoped, it did reinforce the inconvenient reality that a definitive solution will remain elusive until the federal government takes action,” Chiang said. “They must either remove cannabis from its official list of banned narcotics or approve safe harbor legislation that protects banks serving cannabis businesses from prosecution.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many banks are nervous about running afoul of federal law by doing business with the industry, although some work with marijuana-related businesses. That forces pot businesses to deal in large sums of cash, a potential security risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chiang said he was hopeful a public bank could address that issue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need Washington D.C. to provide a clear solution that makes cannabis banking work for everyone,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California voters legalized recreational marijuana for adults in 2016 and the recreational sales industry launched Jan. 1, 2018. Chiang created a working group of banking, cannabis and other industry and government representatives to address conflicts between state and federal law. The group commissioned Level 4 Ventures to conduct a study on a state-backed bank’s feasibility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the firm’s findings, creating a state bank would likely waste taxpayer money, require $1 billion in capital investments and wouldn’t become profitable for 25 to 30 years. If federal law changes during that time, or if existing private banks decide to take on the risk of working with the growing cannabis industry, the need for California’s bank would disappear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Public banks are rarely successful, the report found. Only two exist, in North Dakota and American Samoa, and neither was created to deal with the marijuana industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The only effective long-term solution involves legislative and regulatory changes at the federal level to allow the legal banking of cannabis related funds,” the report concluded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report recommends California designate a state agency to help improve how it handles cash-based tax and other marijuana-related payments, lobby for changes to federal law and encourage existing private banks to work with cannabis businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California Attorney General Xavier Becerra’s office also concluded a public bank for marijuana business was not feasible, saying it would violate federal criminal statutes.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11714984/a-california-backed-marijuana-bank-state-study-says-unlikely","authors":["237"],"programs":["news_72"],"categories":["news_1758","news_8"],"tags":["news_21368","news_21926","news_102"],"featImg":"news_11714999","label":"news_72"},"news_11674907":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11674907","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"news","id":"11674907","score":null,"sort":[1529014532000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1529014532,"format":"standard","disqusTitle":"Proposed U.S. Banking Fix for Marijuana May Not Open All Doors","title":"Proposed U.S. Banking Fix for Marijuana May Not Open All Doors","headTitle":"The California Report | KQED News","content":"\u003cp>A proposal in Congress to ease the U.S. ban on marijuana could encourage more banks to do business with cannabis companies, but it appears to fall short of a cure-all for an industry that must operate mainly as a cash business in a credit card world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marijuana is legal in some form in about 30 states, but companies that grow or sell it often are locked out at banks. Their money isn't wanted because the drug is illegal under federal law and transactions tied to pot proceeds could expose financial institutions to money-laundering charges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bipartisan measure — \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11662332/trump-vows-to-back-law-to-protext-marijuana-industry\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">which received tentative support from President Trump\u003c/a> — would ensure states have the right to determine the best approach to marijuana, without federal interference. It also includes language intended to address the banking gap caused by the federal ban.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The legislation has been praised as a strong step, but \"standing alone, it's likely not a silver bullet for the banking problem,\" said California pot industry attorney Nicole Howell Neubert, a member of a state task force that studied the banking stalemate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Most financial institutions will be looking for even more affirmative direction from (Washington) to feel comfortable with banking cannabis companies,\" she said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The shortage of banking services has been a major obstacle to the industry, often forcing businesses to conduct sales and pay vendors and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11670945/measure-to-slash-state-marijuana-taxes-suffers-setback\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">taxes\u003c/a> in cash, sometimes in vast amounts that can become targets for criminals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The number of financial institutions working with marijuana companies has been growing, but it's still a small fraction overall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Mountain West Credit Union Association and the Maine Credit Union League said in a joint statement that the legislation would \"provide the certainty we need ... to service this growing industry.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure, which faces an uncertain future in Congress, does not legalize marijuana nationally. But it takes steps to allow banks to handle marijuana funds without the risk of federal prosecution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, it says money from marijuana businesses in states where the drug is legal would no longer be considered illegal proceeds, and it would allow banks to accept those funds without breaking money-laundering laws.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even then, risk remains as banks face a range of compliance rules by accepting marijuana-linked money. The Bank Secrecy Act requires that banks know their customers well enough to ensure they are not engaging in money laundering, said Julie A. Hill, a professor at the University of Alabama School of Law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This likely means that a bank accepting marijuana money would have to do enough research to know that their customers are complying with state law regarding the sale of marijuana,\" Hill said. \"The bank would likely have to confirm that the marijuana is not sold to minors or sold for transport to states where it is illegal.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Banks could face penalties if they don't meet such requirements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They also are urged to watch for warning signs of possible illegal activity, such as financial statements provided by a business not squaring with account activity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because the cost of doing such research would be high, some banks might choose to stay away from marijuana money, Hill said in an email.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the legislation passes, it's likely marijuana will stay illegal in some conservative-leaning states, such as South Dakota and Kansas. Some banks in those states might then be uneasy about handling marijuana dollars coming from places where the drug is legal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't imagine the ... financial institution would take that risk to take in funds from a business considered illegal in that state,\" said Beth Mills of the Western Bankers Association.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another uncertainty that could give banks pause: The conflict between Trump, who signaled his support for the legislation, and his own Justice Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorney General \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11659088/marijuana-friendly-states-want-meeting-with-sessions\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jeff Sessions\u003c/a> staunchly opposes marijuana and lifted an Obama administration policy in order to allow federal prosecutors to more aggressively pursue cases in states that have legalized marijuana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Colorado tried to set up a credit union in 2015 to serve the pot industry but the Federal Reserve blocked it. In Oregon, the state Department of Revenue built a fortress-like office for dropping off and counting cash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some pot businesses have tried to open bank accounts by setting up management companies or nonprofit organizations with ambiguous names — basically, by misleading the banks. But those accounts can be shut down if a bank realizes where the money is coming from.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other proposals in Congress also are intended to open the way for more banks to handle marijuana dollars, but it's not clear if any have enough support to reach Trump's desk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a House committee rejected one such measure Wednesday, Kevin Sabet, head of Smart Approaches to Marijuana, a nonpartisan group opposed to marijuana legalization, said it would have \"opened up direct access to Wall Street investment into the sales and marketing of pot candies, cookies and ice creams.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","disqusIdentifier":"11674907 https://ww2.kqed.org/news/?p=11674907","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/06/14/proposed-us-banking-fix-for-marijuana-may-not-open-all-doors/","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":826,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":25},"modified":1529023179,"excerpt":"A proposal in Congress to ease the federal ban on marijuana could encourage more banks to do business with cannabis companies, but it appears to fall short of a cure-all for an industry that must operate mainly as a cash business in a credit card world.","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"A proposal in Congress to ease the federal ban on marijuana could encourage more banks to do business with cannabis companies, but it appears to fall short of a cure-all for an industry that must operate mainly as a cash business in a credit card world.","title":"Proposed U.S. Banking Fix for Marijuana May Not Open All Doors | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Proposed U.S. Banking Fix for Marijuana May Not Open All Doors","datePublished":"2018-06-14T15:15:32-07:00","dateModified":"2018-06-14T17:39:39-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"True","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"proposed-us-banking-fix-for-marijuana-may-not-open-all-doors","status":"publish","nprByline":"\u003cstrong>Michael R. Blood\u003c/strong>\u003c/br>Associated Press","source":"Associated Press","WpOldSlug":"proposed-us-banking-fix-for-marijuana-may-not-open-all-doors__trashed","path":"/news/11674907/proposed-us-banking-fix-for-marijuana-may-not-open-all-doors","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>A proposal in Congress to ease the U.S. ban on marijuana could encourage more banks to do business with cannabis companies, but it appears to fall short of a cure-all for an industry that must operate mainly as a cash business in a credit card world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marijuana is legal in some form in about 30 states, but companies that grow or sell it often are locked out at banks. Their money isn't wanted because the drug is illegal under federal law and transactions tied to pot proceeds could expose financial institutions to money-laundering charges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bipartisan measure — \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11662332/trump-vows-to-back-law-to-protext-marijuana-industry\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">which received tentative support from President Trump\u003c/a> — would ensure states have the right to determine the best approach to marijuana, without federal interference. It also includes language intended to address the banking gap caused by the federal ban.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The legislation has been praised as a strong step, but \"standing alone, it's likely not a silver bullet for the banking problem,\" said California pot industry attorney Nicole Howell Neubert, a member of a state task force that studied the banking stalemate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Most financial institutions will be looking for even more affirmative direction from (Washington) to feel comfortable with banking cannabis companies,\" she said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The shortage of banking services has been a major obstacle to the industry, often forcing businesses to conduct sales and pay vendors and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11670945/measure-to-slash-state-marijuana-taxes-suffers-setback\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">taxes\u003c/a> in cash, sometimes in vast amounts that can become targets for criminals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The number of financial institutions working with marijuana companies has been growing, but it's still a small fraction overall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Mountain West Credit Union Association and the Maine Credit Union League said in a joint statement that the legislation would \"provide the certainty we need ... to service this growing industry.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure, which faces an uncertain future in Congress, does not legalize marijuana nationally. But it takes steps to allow banks to handle marijuana funds without the risk of federal prosecution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, it says money from marijuana businesses in states where the drug is legal would no longer be considered illegal proceeds, and it would allow banks to accept those funds without breaking money-laundering laws.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even then, risk remains as banks face a range of compliance rules by accepting marijuana-linked money. The Bank Secrecy Act requires that banks know their customers well enough to ensure they are not engaging in money laundering, said Julie A. Hill, a professor at the University of Alabama School of Law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This likely means that a bank accepting marijuana money would have to do enough research to know that their customers are complying with state law regarding the sale of marijuana,\" Hill said. \"The bank would likely have to confirm that the marijuana is not sold to minors or sold for transport to states where it is illegal.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Banks could face penalties if they don't meet such requirements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They also are urged to watch for warning signs of possible illegal activity, such as financial statements provided by a business not squaring with account activity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because the cost of doing such research would be high, some banks might choose to stay away from marijuana money, Hill said in an email.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the legislation passes, it's likely marijuana will stay illegal in some conservative-leaning states, such as South Dakota and Kansas. Some banks in those states might then be uneasy about handling marijuana dollars coming from places where the drug is legal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't imagine the ... financial institution would take that risk to take in funds from a business considered illegal in that state,\" said Beth Mills of the Western Bankers Association.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another uncertainty that could give banks pause: The conflict between Trump, who signaled his support for the legislation, and his own Justice Department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorney General \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11659088/marijuana-friendly-states-want-meeting-with-sessions\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jeff Sessions\u003c/a> staunchly opposes marijuana and lifted an Obama administration policy in order to allow federal prosecutors to more aggressively pursue cases in states that have legalized marijuana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Colorado tried to set up a credit union in 2015 to serve the pot industry but the Federal Reserve blocked it. In Oregon, the state Department of Revenue built a fortress-like office for dropping off and counting cash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some pot businesses have tried to open bank accounts by setting up management companies or nonprofit organizations with ambiguous names — basically, by misleading the banks. 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