or more than a century, people in the Bay Area — and especially the East Bay — have puzzled over the existence of stone walls scattered on ridges from near San Jose north through the Berkeley Hills.
Sometimes the walls are built in long straight lines. Sometimes they form angles. Occasionally you’ll find rectangular or circular constructions.
Who built these things? How long ago? And why?
Maybe voyagers from a lost continent built them. Or visitors from outer space. Or a vanished tribe of “superior” Native Americans.
People have suggested these walls could have been meant for defense. Or as navigational aids for extraterrestrials.
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We started getting “mystery walls” questions almost as soon as Bay Curious opened for business, including one from Eric Haven. He’s an artist — he writes and draws graphic novels — and he’s been a producer on “MythBusters” as well as the reboot, “Mythbusters Jr.” So he’s someone who wants to get to the bottom of things.
His query was pretty straightforward: “Who built the East Bay mystery walls? They appear to be ancient, many hundreds or even thousands of years old.”
Eric came to the Bay Area in 1989. As we hiked up a steep, rocky trail in the Berkeley Hills to visit a wall segment there, he told me that’s when he first heard about a nearby “mystery wall.”
“And the way it was relayed to me was very much like urban myth or urban legend,” he said. “There are certain signifiers of that conversation — you know, the vagueness of it — and yet certain things are very specific. ‘No one knows who built it. No one knows why they built it.’ ”
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hat “no one knows” refrain is a constant in the story of the walls from the beginning.
It’s hard to say precisely when locals might have started gossiping about the walls — or if they ever did — but the oldest published mention of the “mystery” appears to be March 8, 1896, in the Sunday San Francisco Chronicle.
“Half a mile east of Grizzly Peak stand the remnants of stone walls which have long baffled the researches and curiosity of antiquarians,” the unbylined story said. “By whom they were erected, when and why is an unsolved mystery.”
The same little essay goes on to drop a theory or two: that perhaps the walls were the work of what it called “a long forgotten race,” or maybe the Aztecs of Mexico, who might have used the walls for defense.
For structures that have excited such feverish speculation for so long, most of them look pretty modest. The section Eric Haven and I tramped up to is actually kind of nondescript: about 100 feet long and just 2 or 3 feet high. The rocks used for construction — local limestone — are stacked or piled, not mortared or cut to fit. Most of the stones are small enough that one person could place them easily; some would have required a crew to put in place. Most are covered with lichens.
As we soaked in the atmosphere of the place — a spot with a sweeping view, but one we promised the property owners we wouldn’t disclose — Eric shared a friend’s idea about the origins of the walls. It’s a variation on the notion that Native Americans built these walls for a mystical purpose.
“His theory was that there was an earthquake here, and it opened up fissures in the ground,” Eric said. “And he thought these were purely ceremonial. They were here to appease whatever gods they thought were angered, or spirits, and this was a way to mark those fissures and to show those spirits they’d do whatever it takes so the earthquake doesn’t happen again.”
Before we headed back down the trail from the wall, we observed that the wall runs parallel to a modern barbed-wire fence that pretty clearly marks a property boundary. So this wall, perhaps, was built as part of a property line.
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ooking for an answer meant going through old newspaper stories, tracking down amateur sleuths’ accounts of the walls, searching old maps for evidence of the structures and finding out whether real live archaeologists had ever studied the walls.
There have been many newspaper pieces over the years, starting with the Chronicle’s in 1896. Most have repeated the original article’s conclusion that the walls are an impenetrable enigma.
For instance, in August 1904, the Chronicle ran another story on the walls, this time, as a big spread in the Sunday paper. It featured a dramatic illustration of stereotype savage fighting with spear and bow and arrow and hurling big rocks.
It was written by a guy named Harold French — a hiker, writer and clerk at San Francisco’s U.S. Mint. The prose sounds a lot like that in the 1896 piece.
“Did a colony from lost Atlantis once populate the Berkeley hills?” the story asked. “Are the ancient rock walls which crown the Contra Costa ridges remnants of a Toltec or a pre-Toltec civilization? Are these remarkable walls really relics of the Stone Age?”
A few weeks later, the Chronicle was back with another dramatic Sunday spread, announcing an amazing find unearthed by a University of California chemistry professor named Henry Coffinberry Myers.
The headline declared that “stone age relics discovered in the Berkeley Hills … seem to change the accepted history of the Western world.”
The objects Myers said he’d uncovered during forays into the hills included a “five-faced stone image,” stone axes and pieces of pottery. Myers said that mineral deposits on the carved stone image proved it was 1,000 to 10,000 years old.
Myers and other experts the Chronicle contacted said the artifacts and the walls in the hills were evidence that early hill dwellers — perhaps giants who had gained immense strength by lifting big rocks — had migrated from China.
Myers’ find was almost certainly a hoax. The Chronicle doesn’t appear to have said another word about the professor and his world-shattering discoveries. Myers left Berkeley shortly afterward to manage a sugar refinery in Hawaii. He eventually donated his artifacts — telling a different story about where they’d come from — to a Bible college in Spokane, Washington.
In 1908, the Berkeley Hills walls were back in the news. “Professor” Joseph Voyle, president of the Berkeley Society for Psychical Research, identified some of the walls as remains of a prehistoric civilization. He was led to the site by a kind of divining rod, and newspapers delighted in telling the tale of Voyle leading a group on an expedition into the wilds.
(Voyle also claimed to have discovered a radium mine beneath San Francisco and reported he had invented an earthquake detector and figured out how to make non-intoxicating alcohol. He died an indigent in Alameda County’s public hospital in 1915, having succumbed to what one paper called “an infirmity of which he had long been a sufferer.”)
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hile Myers and Voyle departed the scene, Harold French showed up again and again in print over the years promoting the legend of the walls.
I say “legend” advisedly. In published writings through the early 1920s, French never failed to describe the walls as “prehistoric” or “ancient.” But beyond the walls’ mere presence, the only evidence he ever cited was the testimony of unnamed old-timers who, he said, had told him that the walls had been a puzzle to both Native Americans and early settlers alike.
It’s not clear if trained archaeologists ever seriously studied the walls at the time French was writing. At one point, French reported he had spoken to a “certain teacher of anthropology” at the University of California about the walls’ origins. The anthropologist reportedly responded:
“From time to time my students have come and told me about these walls … but I never took them seriously enough to climb way up there in that ‘Beanstalk Land’ to see them. I suppose they are either old sheep corrals or ranch boundaries.”
Eventually, though, amateur researchers started trying to decipher the walls.
One was Seth Simpson, who spent years documenting the presence of the walls and puzzling over their origins. His conclusion, summarized in a 1972 number of Pursuit, the Journal of the Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained, is classic.
Simpson said there was a possibility some of the walls had been erected by local tribes to trap and kill game. But for the rest, he said, “All I can suggest is that they were built by unknown persons, in an unknown year, for an unknown purpose … and very possibly they will remain a puzzle for the indefinite future.”
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ther wall fanatics were exploring the hills, too. Robert Fisher, a physician from Fremont, and a friend from Berkeley, Russell Swanson, took a lively interest in the walls, especially those in the hills near the south end of the bay.
Fisher and Swanson were inclined to see massive rock formations on the ridges and highlands as the work of unknown ancients they called “the Earliers.” The meaning of the walls, massive standing stones and outcroppings, was baffling. Fisher suggested some of the stone work could have served as navigational aids for extraterrestrials.
At least one real live archaeologist joined Fisher to tour one area of the hills — Monument Peak, above Milpitas in Santa Clara County’s Ed Levin Park. It’s a dramatic site, with wonderful stretches of walls snaking along ridges about 2,000 feet above the bay.
In an answer to an email query relayed through the Society for California Archaeology, Breck Parkman, a now-retired state parks archeologist, said that in the late 1980s a friend prevailed upon him to visit Monument Peak with Fisher.
Fisher “wanted me to come and authenticate what he was finding,” Parkman said in an email. “… I said, show me the best you have. He did.”
Parkman said the area featured “lots and lots of stone walls” he believed dated to sometime in the 1800s. Most were built, he felt, in the later years of the century, perhaps by Chinese workers, perhaps by Basque sheep herders.
But he found a handful of structures — possible hunting blinds and prayer circles — he thought could have been Native American in origin.
“It was these features that convinced me that among the many late 19th century rock features in the East Bay Hills, we might find a few older features of importance,” Parkman wrote. “It would be worth checking out, but I don’t know who’d be interested in taking a systematic look at this.”
One reason that professionals may have stayed away from the walls, Parkman added, is “not wanting to be associated with the fringe element” responsible for the many wild wall hypotheses over the years.
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nother archaeologist, Jeff Fentress, went up into the Berkeley Hills with me to look at the same section of wall I visited with our question asker, Eric Haven.
Fentress, now retired from his position as a professor of archaeology at San Francisco State University, was raised nearby and said he’d been hearing stories about the walls since his boyhood.
“When I was growing up in Berkeley here, we were told the Lemurians built the walls, and the Lemurians were the inhabitants of the lost continent of Mu,” Fentress said.
Mu is said to have existed out in the Pacific Ocean somewhere. And Fentress said stories like that are still coming up. The History Channel asked him whether a Chinese admiral might have erected the rock walls, and British TV interviewed him about whether the West African adventurers might have put up the walls during a visit 30,000 years ago.
Fentress said the problem with all of those theories — Lemurians, Chinese, West Africans and extraterrestrials — is that there’s simply no evidence any of those real or imagined groups ever landed here.
“So I think you have to look at the walls in the context of who was actually here in the Bay Area,” he said.
Native American tribes have populated the Bay Area for about 10,000 years, according to the latest estimates. They were here long before the arrival of Spanish and Mexican colonists and the Gold Rush-era invasion of Americans.
But Fentress said “there is no indication that Native American people built rock walls that extended for hundreds or thousands of feet. There are no accounts of them building massive wall structures or corrals or any of the other sort of rock features we see in the East Bay here.”
Fentress and other archaeologists who have studied and recorded the walls agree that there is an explanation, though.
The rock walls were the work of us — the people who pushed the native tribes off the land.
Fentress said some wall building may have begun in the Mission period, and walls like the ones in the hills followed. Some were likely built to mark property lines. Many others were put up as part of ranching and farming operations, such as those that were known to have existed both in the Berkeley Hills and the Monument Peak area.
He also points to the many European immigrant groups known to have ranched and farmed in the hills.
“Did these people make rock walls in their countries?” Fentress asks. “Look at them all — Portugal, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Switzerland and so on. Of course they made rock walls.”
Fentress and others also point out there was no shortage of labor — provided either willingly or unwillingly. Chinese crews, paid as little as a penny a linear foot, were hired to build ranch walls in Mariposa and Tehama counties, for instance. And many Native Americans, displaced from their lands and denied basic civil rights, were forced into indentured servitude to provide labor.
But Fentress concedes his explanations for the walls are speculative and said you’d want to search for more evidence to back up what he and other researchers have observed and been told in the field.
“The main thing to do would be to systematically record and map all the walls,” he said. Once the walls were mapped, researchers could compare their locations to older maps showing historic property lines and other features.
He also said it could be useful to dig along the base of walls to study their construction and to look for artifacts. It would also help to study the rocks used in the structures to confirm what most people assume — that they come from the same area as the walls themselves.
Dating techniques could be useful, too. One experimental study that used the growth of lichens as a dating technique estimated that the surviving wall segment in the Berkeley Hills may have been built between 1850 and 1880.
Fentress said you’d want to do a more systematic study — a hundred lichen sites, say — to really come to a firm conclusion.
Historical records — written accounts — could be important, too. But those are in short supply.
“And really the reason is that, you know, we’re looking at — you could call it the archaeology of the common people, the archeology of the working class,” he said. “Back in 1850, if Mr. McGillicuddy cleared his fields and he built a wall between his property and Mr. Sousa next door, no one’s going to write a newspaper article about that. It’s not going to get in the history books. So all we have is the remains of these people showing their hard work and their ingenuity.”
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o, at the end of all this, there is still some mystery left in the walls and more work to be done to come to definitive answers. Eric Haven, who prompted our own investigation, said he’s OK with that.
“People love a mystery,” he said. “And since this is an unsolved mystery, it’s naturally evocative and compelling. I still think about it — a lot. And part of me somewhat hopes that we never find the answers, so that the Berkeley walls can always be a mystery.”
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The officers allegedly referred to their targets as “gorillas,” among other derogatory language.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the incidents in question against Wilson and Smith took place in 2021, it’s only because of the unearthed text messages that they have the evidence they need to sue, their attorney Fulvio Cajina told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The reason we’re bringing this lawsuit now is because we didn’t have the information to bring this lawsuit before,” Cajina said. “It’s only because of the FBI investigation into the Antioch Police Department that we know that there was a conspiracy amongst officers to target minorities and to intentionally violate their civil rights.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cajina said the text messages are “sickening.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Antioch Police Department and city attorney did not respond to requests for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much of the officers’ planning was carried out in text messages revealed by the FBI probe in which they frequently described the desire to beat people and allow Purcy, their K-9 unit, to bite them, according to the lawsuit. In February 2019, Rombough texted Amiri, “Yeah buddy we gonna f— some people up,” court documents showed. They discussed revenge for someone “f—ing with [an officer],” and Amiri texted Rombough, “blood for blood.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In January 2021, an officer texted Amiri to ask about his interaction with a suspect. Amiri responded, “lol putting a pistol in someone’s mouth and telling them to stop stealing isn’t illegal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wilson was injured on Aug. 24, 2021, when Antioch police officers, including Amiri and Rombough, executed a search warrant to enter an Antioch residence, then entered Wilson’s locked room while he was sitting on an air mattress playing video games, according to the lawsuit. An unnamed officer pinned Wilson’s left arm down against his bed, and Rombough shot him with a 40mm less-lethal launcher, according to the indictment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A less-lethal launcher fires bean bags or sponge bullets and is intended to be used in crowd control environments, according to \u003ca href=\"https://www.lesslethal.com/products/37mm-40mm/alstac-40-detail\">the website of Pacem Defense\u003c/a>, a company selling this type of launcher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rombough’s report about the incident differed from those written by other officers. An unnamed sergeant wrote to Rombough to critique his report, “you write that [Wilson] didn’t comply, but he clearly had his hands up at first. You need to describe way better what happened,” according to the suit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='Related Coverage' tag='antioch-police-department']When Antioch Police Department superiors became aware of the officers’ misdeeds, they helped them avoid discipline and accountability by concealing their actions in police reports, the suit alleges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith, a Black transgender woman, encountered the officers after she allegedly stole a Maserati on Oct. 26, 2021. The incident can be seen in officer-worn body camera footage \u003ca href=\"https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/12/03/antioch-releases-video-of-officers-shooting-less-lethal-round-at-transgender-woman-whose-hands-were-raised/\">obtained by the Bay Area News Group\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Antioch police officers, including Wenger, surrounded Smith and the Maserati at an Antioch grocery store. Smith came out of the vehicle and faced the officers. Wenger can be heard saying to another officer, “You got the 40?” meaning the less-lethal launcher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith stood by the vehicle with her hands up, and Wenger shot her in the chest with a 40mm less-lethal launcher. Antioch police officers are trained that the chest is a “potentially lethal” area to shoot someone with a 40mm less-lethal round, according to the suit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Smith begins to recoil in pain, the officers pin her to the ground and sic their police dog on her. The dog can be seen in the video tearing skin from her left arm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rombough collected photos of people he injured shooting the 40mm less-lethal launcher and told Antioch police officers he was collecting the launcher’s spent munitions to craft an American flag, using the munitions as stars and stripes, the suit alleges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Similarly, Amiri shared photos of victims bitten by their K9, Purcy. After one such bite in 2019, Amiri texted, “I’m gonna take more gory pics. gory [sic] pics are for personal stuff. 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The incident can be seen in officer-worn body camera footage \u003ca href=\"https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/12/03/antioch-releases-video-of-officers-shooting-less-lethal-round-at-transgender-woman-whose-hands-were-raised/\">obtained by the Bay Area News Group\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Antioch police officers, including Wenger, surrounded Smith and the Maserati at an Antioch grocery store. Smith came out of the vehicle and faced the officers. Wenger can be heard saying to another officer, “You got the 40?” meaning the less-lethal launcher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smith stood by the vehicle with her hands up, and Wenger shot her in the chest with a 40mm less-lethal launcher. Antioch police officers are trained that the chest is a “potentially lethal” area to shoot someone with a 40mm less-lethal round, according to the suit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Smith begins to recoil in pain, the officers pin her to the ground and sic their police dog on her. 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How many kids have you killed today?” Shouted students in one section.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985862\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985862\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pro-Palestinian protesters march down the stadium steps during UC Berkeley’s undergraduate commencement ceremony at the California Memorial Stadium in Berkeley on May 11, 2024. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Security officials walked around and confiscated most of the flags, but the students continued undeterred and soon gathered into a larger group at a section of bleachers near the main stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The demonstration mirrored a similar event during \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982697/confrontation-at-uc-berkeley-law-school-deans-home-highlights-campus-tensions\">Friday’s law school graduation\u003c/a> at Berkeley, where students turned their back on the speakers, revealed shirts that read “DIVEST,” and chanted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Student Fiona Collantes said that when they heard about a plan to chant and walk out of the ceremony, they immediately decided to join.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985860\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985860\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A protester holds up a homemade sign that reads ‘Antizionist Jews for a Free Palestine’ during the UC Berkeley commencement ceremony. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Disruption is extremely important, especially in a university institution that gets funding and funds Israel and funds the weapons that they send to bomb children in Gaza,” Collantes said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The plan seems to have spread through word of mouth, and even those who didn’t hear the rumors said they were unsurprised, given \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/gallery/2014/nov/15/berkeley-a-history-of-disobedience-in-pictures\">Berkeley’s decades-long history of student activism\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nolan Kim, an undergraduate excited to receive his degree, did not have prior knowledge of a protest happening but told KQED at the start of the event that he would not be surprised if a protest broke out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985861\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985861\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">UC Berkeley students raise Palestinian flags to begin a protest during the 2024 commencement ceremony. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I was saying if there was a way to bet 50 bucks that something was going to happen, I actually would,” Kim said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kim missed his high school graduation due to the pandemic and lamented the prospect of missing a proper college commencement due to demonstrations, but he also said he understood the motivations of those seeking to disrupt the event.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Obviously what Hamas did was not right,” said Kim. “But I think what Israel is doing in retaliation to hurt the innocent Palestinian people, which is different, is crazy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985858\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985858\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut.jpg\" alt=\"A young man wearing a graduation gown holds a keffiyeh over his head with a crowd of other students in academic regalia behind him.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An anonymous protester chants along with the crowd during UC Berkeley’s commencement ceremony. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When the first wave of protesters gathered together, they numbered in the dozens. But a steady stream of students rose from their seats to join the group until they numbered in the hundreds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several students said they felt embarrassed trying to focus on the ceremony while others stood up for what they considered to be a worthy cause.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ceremony continued, but the mass of students chanting and stomping their feet served as an effective distraction and even drowned out the speakers for those sitting nearest to the protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985866\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985866\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A small crowd of pro-Palestinian protesters grew into the hundreds within 30 minutes, eventually filling an entire column of bleachers during the UC Berkeley commencement ceremony at the California Memorial Stadium in Berkeley. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“UC Berkeley strives to celebrate the achievements of our graduates in a safe and respectful environment,” a university spokesperson said in an email. “While today’s commencement was, at times, unfortunately disrupted, it did not prevent us from honoring the hard work and accomplishments of our students.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prior to the start of the protest, UC Berkeley Chancellor Carol Christ began her address by discussing the recent protests on the campus, including an ongoing encampment which has been up for nearly three weeks and grown continuously, now spanning dozens of tents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985879\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985879\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Christopher Ying, recipient of UC Berkeley’s 2024 University Medal, gives his commencement ceremony speech while a pro-Palestinian protest goes on in the bleachers behind him at the California Memorial Stadium. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“They feel passionately about the brutality of the violence in Gaza. Tens of thousands of Palestinians killed and the destruction of educational institutions and vital infrastructure. I, too, am deeply troubled by the terrible tragedy unfolding in Gaza,” Christ said, to cheers from the crowd.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Christ went on to condemn anti-Semitism and anti-Palestinian harassment and called on attendees to, “find a way to recognize our shared humanity.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the chancellor moved on to other remarks, the chants began.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985872\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985872\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Chancellor Carol Christ welcomes students and faculty to the UC Berkeley commencement ceremony at the California Memorial Stadium in Berkeley on May 11, 2024. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While some said they appreciated that Christ named Gaza, something they felt she has not done enough, others said she should have gone further.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The UC Berkeley Divest Coalition, the banner name for the groups operating the on-campus encampment, posted to social media Saturday afternoon calling for an emergency rally while referring to the chancellor as “Carol Anti-Christ.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985873\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985873\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students celebrate the start of the UC Berkeley commencement ceremony at the California Memorial Stadium in Berkeley on May 11, 2024. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the post, the group alleges that they have tried to negotiate for their terms — primarily a disclosure of university investments and a commitment from the university to divest from the aforementioned companies — but that the university has destroyed any attempt to negotiate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They tried to sedate us, but we cannot be quelled. They tried to silence us, but our screams will not be held … Join us in making our demands as loud as the bombs that are raining down on Rafah.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985874\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985874\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The UC Berkeley pro-Palestinian encampment outside of Sproul Hall continues to grow in size in Berkeley, on May 11, 2024. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Dozens of students began chanting in protest of the university's ties to Israeli companies, their numbers eventually swelling into the hundreds through the ceremony. 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","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"UC Berkeley Commencement Ceremony Disrupted by Student Protests","datePublished":"2024-05-12T01:00:18.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-12T01:41:41.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprStoryId":"kqed-11985856","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11985856/uc-berkeley-commencement-ceremony-disrupted-by-student-protests","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Protesters calling for UC Berkeley to divest from companies in Israel — or those they say profit from Israel’s war in Gaza — disrupted the university’s undergraduate commencement ceremony Saturday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Minutes after the ceremony began, a few small groups of students stood up holding Palestinian flags, keffiyehs and signs reading “DIVEST.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“UC Regents, what do you say? How many kids have you killed today?” Shouted students in one section.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985862\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985862\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004976_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pro-Palestinian protesters march down the stadium steps during UC Berkeley’s undergraduate commencement ceremony at the California Memorial Stadium in Berkeley on May 11, 2024. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Security officials walked around and confiscated most of the flags, but the students continued undeterred and soon gathered into a larger group at a section of bleachers near the main stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The demonstration mirrored a similar event during \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11982697/confrontation-at-uc-berkeley-law-school-deans-home-highlights-campus-tensions\">Friday’s law school graduation\u003c/a> at Berkeley, where students turned their back on the speakers, revealed shirts that read “DIVEST,” and chanted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Student Fiona Collantes said that when they heard about a plan to chant and walk out of the ceremony, they immediately decided to join.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985860\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985860\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8455_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A protester holds up a homemade sign that reads ‘Antizionist Jews for a Free Palestine’ during the UC Berkeley commencement ceremony. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Disruption is extremely important, especially in a university institution that gets funding and funds Israel and funds the weapons that they send to bomb children in Gaza,” Collantes said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The plan seems to have spread through word of mouth, and even those who didn’t hear the rumors said they were unsurprised, given \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/gallery/2014/nov/15/berkeley-a-history-of-disobedience-in-pictures\">Berkeley’s decades-long history of student activism\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nolan Kim, an undergraduate excited to receive his degree, did not have prior knowledge of a protest happening but told KQED at the start of the event that he would not be surprised if a protest broke out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985861\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985861\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004820_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">UC Berkeley students raise Palestinian flags to begin a protest during the 2024 commencement ceremony. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I was saying if there was a way to bet 50 bucks that something was going to happen, I actually would,” Kim said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kim missed his high school graduation due to the pandemic and lamented the prospect of missing a proper college commencement due to demonstrations, but he also said he understood the motivations of those seeking to disrupt the event.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Obviously what Hamas did was not right,” said Kim. “But I think what Israel is doing in retaliation to hurt the innocent Palestinian people, which is different, is crazy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985858\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985858\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut.jpg\" alt=\"A young man wearing a graduation gown holds a keffiyeh over his head with a crowd of other students in academic regalia behind him.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8405_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An anonymous protester chants along with the crowd during UC Berkeley’s commencement ceremony. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When the first wave of protesters gathered together, they numbered in the dozens. But a steady stream of students rose from their seats to join the group until they numbered in the hundreds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several students said they felt embarrassed trying to focus on the ceremony while others stood up for what they considered to be a worthy cause.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ceremony continued, but the mass of students chanting and stomping their feet served as an effective distraction and even drowned out the speakers for those sitting nearest to the protests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985866\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985866\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005132_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A small crowd of pro-Palestinian protesters grew into the hundreds within 30 minutes, eventually filling an entire column of bleachers during the UC Berkeley commencement ceremony at the California Memorial Stadium in Berkeley. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“UC Berkeley strives to celebrate the achievements of our graduates in a safe and respectful environment,” a university spokesperson said in an email. “While today’s commencement was, at times, unfortunately disrupted, it did not prevent us from honoring the hard work and accomplishments of our students.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prior to the start of the protest, UC Berkeley Chancellor Carol Christ began her address by discussing the recent protests on the campus, including an ongoing encampment which has been up for nearly three weeks and grown continuously, now spanning dozens of tents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985879\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985879\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8473_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Christopher Ying, recipient of UC Berkeley’s 2024 University Medal, gives his commencement ceremony speech while a pro-Palestinian protest goes on in the bleachers behind him at the California Memorial Stadium. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“They feel passionately about the brutality of the violence in Gaza. Tens of thousands of Palestinians killed and the destruction of educational institutions and vital infrastructure. I, too, am deeply troubled by the terrible tragedy unfolding in Gaza,” Christ said, to cheers from the crowd.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Christ went on to condemn anti-Semitism and anti-Palestinian harassment and called on attendees to, “find a way to recognize our shared humanity.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the chancellor moved on to other remarks, the chants began.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985872\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985872\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/DSC8362_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Chancellor Carol Christ welcomes students and faculty to the UC Berkeley commencement ceremony at the California Memorial Stadium in Berkeley on May 11, 2024. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While some said they appreciated that Christ named Gaza, something they felt she has not done enough, others said she should have gone further.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The UC Berkeley Divest Coalition, the banner name for the groups operating the on-campus encampment, posted to social media Saturday afternoon calling for an emergency rally while referring to the chancellor as “Carol Anti-Christ.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985873\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985873\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1004753_qut-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students celebrate the start of the UC Berkeley commencement ceremony at the California Memorial Stadium in Berkeley on May 11, 2024. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the post, the group alleges that they have tried to negotiate for their terms — primarily a disclosure of university investments and a commitment from the university to divest from the aforementioned companies — but that the university has destroyed any attempt to negotiate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They tried to sedate us, but we cannot be quelled. They tried to silence us, but our screams will not be held … Join us in making our demands as loud as the bombs that are raining down on Rafah.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985874\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985874\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/L1005168_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The UC Berkeley pro-Palestinian encampment outside of Sproul Hall continues to grow in size in Berkeley, on May 11, 2024. \u003ccite>(Aryk Copley/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985856/uc-berkeley-commencement-ceremony-disrupted-by-student-protests","authors":["11761"],"categories":["news_18540","news_8"],"tags":["news_20013","news_27626","news_33647","news_17597"],"featImg":"news_11985864","label":"news"},"news_11985689":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985689","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985689","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"under-new-california-law-restaurants-to-include-all-surcharges-in-menu-prices","title":"Under New California Law, Restaurants to Include All Surcharges in Menu Prices","publishDate":1715439648,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Under New California Law, Restaurants to Include All Surcharges in Menu Prices | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>Service charges, resort fees, “surcharge” add-ons: If you’ve been startled by unexpected fees when you pay your check at a restaurant — or book a hotel room or buy a ticket to a game, you’re far from alone. But if you live in California, change is coming. A new state law requiring price transparency is set to take effect in July.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The law is simple: the price you see is the price you pay,” Attorney General Rob Bonta said on Wednesday, as his office issued long-awaited guidance about a law that applies to thousands of businesses in a wide range of sectors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When it takes effect on July 1, the law promises to upend how many restaurants operate. Their menus will be required to list comprehensive prices for each item, with all mandatory charges baked into one figure. Only entirely optional fees — like leaving a tip for staff — can be left out of the posted price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If a business violates the mandate, the law allows a consumer to seek “actual damages of at least $1,000.” In its new guidelines, the state said it won’t focus initial enforcement efforts on “fees that are paid directly and entirely by a restaurant to its workers, such as an automatic gratuity. However, businesses may be liable in private actions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many business owners — and restaurant owners in particular — have been dreading the change, which is poised to ban separate surcharges that restaurateurs have increasingly relied on to pay higher wages to staff and to absorb discrete costs such as San Francisco’s mandatory health care payments for workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Consumer advocates applaud the change\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Consumer advocacy groups have celebrated the law, \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB478\">SB 478\u003c/a>, calling it a simple matter of common sense that will bring much-needed clarity and transparency to retail transactions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People deserve to know the true price of products upfront so that they can do good comparison shopping and so that there’s just good competition in the marketplace,” Jenn Engstrom, state director for the California Public Interest Research Group, a Los Angeles-based nonprofit, told NPR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think this guidance is great for consumers,” Engstrom said, adding that in her view, the attorney general’s interpretation tracks with legislators’ intention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Laws like the one in California would give consumers something they need: clarity about their expectations, said Erin Witte, the director of consumer protection for the Consumer Federation of America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It feels all over the place” right now, she said. And for a lot of people, she adds, uncertainty over whether their dinner will cost an extra $20 could have cascading effects if it’s more than they budgeted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re thinking about late fees and increased interest and things like that. So it’s not just annoying, it’s harmful for many folks,” Witte said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Restaurant owners warn of higher prices and fallout\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Restaurant owners like Laurie Thomas, who heads the Golden Gate Restaurant Association, said the changes will bring higher prices and sticker shock, which could then raise a psychological hurdle in customers’ dining habits. That, in turn, will hurt restaurants and their workers, she warns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If it’s in the core price of the menu, there will be a pullback” in patrons’ spending, she told NPR shortly before the attorney general released the guidelines. “There are some people, I think, that are hoping that the restaurants will just absorb that cost because we’ve seen people say, ‘Oh, it’s too expensive with the service charge.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the new guidelines, Thomas’ organization said in an email to NPR, restaurants will be forced to impose “significant menu price increases.” And if customers eat out less, it warns, “Not only will restaurants struggle, but workers will lose hours and jobs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thomas said she has always advocated for restaurants to be clear about any additional fees they charge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We as a restaurant organization have never been a proponent of not fully disclosing any additional fees,” she said, citing longstanding practices like charging a mandatory gratuity for large parties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It should always be listed,” she said. “You should never mislead a customer.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At her two restaurants, Thomas said, longtime staff prefer a traditional tipping method. She plans to use the time before July 1 to consult with her employees about how to adjust to the new rules.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California Restaurant Association “strenuously disagrees with the AG’s expansive interpretation” of the law, said Matthew Sutton, the group’s senior vice president of government affairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sutton accuses the attorney general’s office of a “bait-and-switch,” saying its interpretation “is clearly inconsistent with the Legislature’s intent.” Courts have allowed service fees as long as they’re properly disclosed; he added that the industry group is “considering all available options to block implementation” of the law in the way the guidelines describe.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Momentum is building for transparent pricing\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to predict all of the potential effects of California’s new law, partly due to the disparate industries it affects and because it would be the first such ban enacted in the U.S. The federal government has proposed a similar rule, and several other states are also weighing legislation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A dozen states, including \u003ca href=\"https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1151\">Colorado\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billinfo/billinfo.cfm?syear=2023&sInd=0&body=H&type=B&bn=636\">Pennsylvania\u003c/a>, have taken up legislation similar to California’s this year, although as of now, none of those bills have gotten final approval, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.endjunkfees.com/\">American Economic Liberties Project\u003c/a>, a progressive nonprofit that campaigns against junk fees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the federal level, the Federal Trade Commission is reviewing thousands of comments it received after \u003ca href=\"https://www.regulations.gov/docket/FTC-2023-0064/document\">publishing a proposed rule\u003c/a> about “unfair or deceptive fees” that misled customers about the total costs of goods and services last November. However, federal rules are subject to change whenever the White House changes hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So it really behooves states to be very active on this issue,” Witte said, noting the growing momentum behind junk fee legislation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve seen consumers across political lines,” she said. “This is a really bipartisan issue” to push for transparent pricing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But another important consideration, Witte and other advocates said, is to ensure changes don’t harm employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why do restaurant patrons react so strongly to fees?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The restaurant-patron relationship is personal by nature: you are, after all, putting their product in your body. For millions of Americans, the COVID-19 pandemic interrupted that dynamic. And when they returned to restaurants, things were different. It was common to see eateries struggle to attract and retain enough staff; to sweeten the deal, many added surcharges that helped them raise workers’ pay. [aside label='Related Coverage' tag='california-law']“Nationally, the restaurant industry has been one of the largest employers in the U.S., but the absolute lowest paying employer for generations,” Saru Jayaraman, the president of One Fair Wage and the director of the Food Labor Research Center at the University of California, Berkeley. “Really in part due to this sub-minimum wage for tipped workers that is a \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/03/22/980047710/the-land-of-the-fee\">direct legacy of slavery\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But for many patrons, those changes were a surprise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It feels a bit sudden,” Witte said, citing the lingering effects of the pandemic and high inflation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You know, folks understand that inflation affects everyone, right? But feeling like you had fees added on to already increasing prices across the economy sort of felt like a double punch for consumers,” Witte said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another factor, she said, is that restaurants didn’t always make clear to diners what kind of fees it would tack onto their final bill — or what the money was for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Someone feels like, well, I’m already paying a tip in the form of a 20% service fee; why would I also have to pay a tip to the server if they’re already getting it? That disconnect and that lack of transparency make consumers feel angry. It makes them feel deceived, and it can harm people who rely on that income.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If a restaurant adds service charges to your bill, “you have the right to inquire what they’re being used for if it’s not spelled out,” Jayaraman said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if a restaurant offers the option of tipping, you should use it, Jayaraman said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We definitely encourage you to tip,” she said, adding that cash is best.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The reason for tipping in cash is that a lot of businesses deduct credit card processing fees from tipped workers tips, which is very difficult for the tipped worker and not what the consumer expects to happen.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How pervasive are hidden fees?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The California law applies to both online and in-person transactions, covering “the sale or lease of most goods and services that are for a consumer’s personal use,” the attorney general’s office said, from short-term rentals and event tickets to hotels, restaurants, and food delivery services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think it’s more common in online purchases,” Engstrom said, adding that she has seen ticket sellers for events tack on fees that add 20% to 30% more to the advertised price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Part of the law’s goal is to ensure a level playing field, whether companies are trying to attract concertgoers or diners. It also targets hotels that might add a “resort fee” to a customer’s check-out price for the use of fairly standard amenities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We know that this is an enormously lucrative opportunity for businesses and not just because of the fee itself,” Witte said, “but because of the way that it allows them to take business from other honest businesses who transparently disclose a higher price upfront.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One place that we’ve seen a lot of junk and hidden fees is with car dealers, and that is certainly not limited to larger franchised car dealerships, Witte said, describing strategies such as dealers advertising a car at an enticing price — only to tack on expensive fees during an hours-long process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Car dealers are subject to a pending rule from the FTC, which said the change could save U.S. consumers \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/12/ftc-announces-cars-rule-fight-scams-vehicle-shopping\">more than $3.4 billion\u003c/a> — and an estimated 72 million hours worth of time spent shopping for vehicles. The rule was due to take effect in July, but \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/01/ftc-pauses-cars-rule-effective-date\">it’s now in limbo after a legal challenge\u003c/a> from the auto dealer industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A new state law mandating price transparency will begin in July, poised to upend how many restaurants operate. 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But if you live in California, change is coming. A new state law requiring price transparency is set to take effect in July.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The law is simple: the price you see is the price you pay,” Attorney General Rob Bonta said on Wednesday, as his office issued long-awaited guidance about a law that applies to thousands of businesses in a wide range of sectors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When it takes effect on July 1, the law promises to upend how many restaurants operate. Their menus will be required to list comprehensive prices for each item, with all mandatory charges baked into one figure. Only entirely optional fees — like leaving a tip for staff — can be left out of the posted price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If a business violates the mandate, the law allows a consumer to seek “actual damages of at least $1,000.” In its new guidelines, the state said it won’t focus initial enforcement efforts on “fees that are paid directly and entirely by a restaurant to its workers, such as an automatic gratuity. However, businesses may be liable in private actions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many business owners — and restaurant owners in particular — have been dreading the change, which is poised to ban separate surcharges that restaurateurs have increasingly relied on to pay higher wages to staff and to absorb discrete costs such as San Francisco’s mandatory health care payments for workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Consumer advocates applaud the change\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Consumer advocacy groups have celebrated the law, \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB478\">SB 478\u003c/a>, calling it a simple matter of common sense that will bring much-needed clarity and transparency to retail transactions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People deserve to know the true price of products upfront so that they can do good comparison shopping and so that there’s just good competition in the marketplace,” Jenn Engstrom, state director for the California Public Interest Research Group, a Los Angeles-based nonprofit, told NPR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think this guidance is great for consumers,” Engstrom said, adding that in her view, the attorney general’s interpretation tracks with legislators’ intention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Laws like the one in California would give consumers something they need: clarity about their expectations, said Erin Witte, the director of consumer protection for the Consumer Federation of America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It feels all over the place” right now, she said. And for a lot of people, she adds, uncertainty over whether their dinner will cost an extra $20 could have cascading effects if it’s more than they budgeted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re thinking about late fees and increased interest and things like that. So it’s not just annoying, it’s harmful for many folks,” Witte said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Restaurant owners warn of higher prices and fallout\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Restaurant owners like Laurie Thomas, who heads the Golden Gate Restaurant Association, said the changes will bring higher prices and sticker shock, which could then raise a psychological hurdle in customers’ dining habits. That, in turn, will hurt restaurants and their workers, she warns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If it’s in the core price of the menu, there will be a pullback” in patrons’ spending, she told NPR shortly before the attorney general released the guidelines. “There are some people, I think, that are hoping that the restaurants will just absorb that cost because we’ve seen people say, ‘Oh, it’s too expensive with the service charge.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the new guidelines, Thomas’ organization said in an email to NPR, restaurants will be forced to impose “significant menu price increases.” And if customers eat out less, it warns, “Not only will restaurants struggle, but workers will lose hours and jobs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thomas said she has always advocated for restaurants to be clear about any additional fees they charge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We as a restaurant organization have never been a proponent of not fully disclosing any additional fees,” she said, citing longstanding practices like charging a mandatory gratuity for large parties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It should always be listed,” she said. “You should never mislead a customer.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At her two restaurants, Thomas said, longtime staff prefer a traditional tipping method. She plans to use the time before July 1 to consult with her employees about how to adjust to the new rules.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California Restaurant Association “strenuously disagrees with the AG’s expansive interpretation” of the law, said Matthew Sutton, the group’s senior vice president of government affairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sutton accuses the attorney general’s office of a “bait-and-switch,” saying its interpretation “is clearly inconsistent with the Legislature’s intent.” Courts have allowed service fees as long as they’re properly disclosed; he added that the industry group is “considering all available options to block implementation” of the law in the way the guidelines describe.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Momentum is building for transparent pricing\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to predict all of the potential effects of California’s new law, partly due to the disparate industries it affects and because it would be the first such ban enacted in the U.S. The federal government has proposed a similar rule, and several other states are also weighing legislation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A dozen states, including \u003ca href=\"https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1151\">Colorado\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billinfo/billinfo.cfm?syear=2023&sInd=0&body=H&type=B&bn=636\">Pennsylvania\u003c/a>, have taken up legislation similar to California’s this year, although as of now, none of those bills have gotten final approval, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.endjunkfees.com/\">American Economic Liberties Project\u003c/a>, a progressive nonprofit that campaigns against junk fees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the federal level, the Federal Trade Commission is reviewing thousands of comments it received after \u003ca href=\"https://www.regulations.gov/docket/FTC-2023-0064/document\">publishing a proposed rule\u003c/a> about “unfair or deceptive fees” that misled customers about the total costs of goods and services last November. However, federal rules are subject to change whenever the White House changes hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So it really behooves states to be very active on this issue,” Witte said, noting the growing momentum behind junk fee legislation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve seen consumers across political lines,” she said. “This is a really bipartisan issue” to push for transparent pricing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But another important consideration, Witte and other advocates said, is to ensure changes don’t harm employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why do restaurant patrons react so strongly to fees?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The restaurant-patron relationship is personal by nature: you are, after all, putting their product in your body. For millions of Americans, the COVID-19 pandemic interrupted that dynamic. And when they returned to restaurants, things were different. It was common to see eateries struggle to attract and retain enough staff; to sweeten the deal, many added surcharges that helped them raise workers’ pay. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Coverage ","tag":"california-law"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“Nationally, the restaurant industry has been one of the largest employers in the U.S., but the absolute lowest paying employer for generations,” Saru Jayaraman, the president of One Fair Wage and the director of the Food Labor Research Center at the University of California, Berkeley. “Really in part due to this sub-minimum wage for tipped workers that is a \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2021/03/22/980047710/the-land-of-the-fee\">direct legacy of slavery\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But for many patrons, those changes were a surprise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It feels a bit sudden,” Witte said, citing the lingering effects of the pandemic and high inflation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You know, folks understand that inflation affects everyone, right? But feeling like you had fees added on to already increasing prices across the economy sort of felt like a double punch for consumers,” Witte said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another factor, she said, is that restaurants didn’t always make clear to diners what kind of fees it would tack onto their final bill — or what the money was for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Someone feels like, well, I’m already paying a tip in the form of a 20% service fee; why would I also have to pay a tip to the server if they’re already getting it? That disconnect and that lack of transparency make consumers feel angry. It makes them feel deceived, and it can harm people who rely on that income.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If a restaurant adds service charges to your bill, “you have the right to inquire what they’re being used for if it’s not spelled out,” Jayaraman said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if a restaurant offers the option of tipping, you should use it, Jayaraman said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We definitely encourage you to tip,” she said, adding that cash is best.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The reason for tipping in cash is that a lot of businesses deduct credit card processing fees from tipped workers tips, which is very difficult for the tipped worker and not what the consumer expects to happen.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How pervasive are hidden fees?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The California law applies to both online and in-person transactions, covering “the sale or lease of most goods and services that are for a consumer’s personal use,” the attorney general’s office said, from short-term rentals and event tickets to hotels, restaurants, and food delivery services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think it’s more common in online purchases,” Engstrom said, adding that she has seen ticket sellers for events tack on fees that add 20% to 30% more to the advertised price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Part of the law’s goal is to ensure a level playing field, whether companies are trying to attract concertgoers or diners. It also targets hotels that might add a “resort fee” to a customer’s check-out price for the use of fairly standard amenities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We know that this is an enormously lucrative opportunity for businesses and not just because of the fee itself,” Witte said, “but because of the way that it allows them to take business from other honest businesses who transparently disclose a higher price upfront.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One place that we’ve seen a lot of junk and hidden fees is with car dealers, and that is certainly not limited to larger franchised car dealerships, Witte said, describing strategies such as dealers advertising a car at an enticing price — only to tack on expensive fees during an hours-long process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Car dealers are subject to a pending rule from the FTC, which said the change could save U.S. consumers \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/12/ftc-announces-cars-rule-fight-scams-vehicle-shopping\">more than $3.4 billion\u003c/a> — and an estimated 72 million hours worth of time spent shopping for vehicles. The rule was due to take effect in July, but \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/01/ftc-pauses-cars-rule-effective-date\">it’s now in limbo after a legal challenge\u003c/a> from the auto dealer industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985689/under-new-california-law-restaurants-to-include-all-surcharges-in-menu-prices","authors":["byline_news_11985689"],"categories":["news_24114","news_8"],"tags":["news_30069","news_333","news_22714"],"featImg":"news_11985690","label":"news"},"news_11985847":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985847","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985847","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"federal-prosecutors-request-40-year-sentence-for-david-depape-who-attacked-pelosis-husband-with-a-hammer","title":"Federal Prosecutors Request 40-Year Sentence for David DePape Who Attacked Pelosi's Husband With a Hammer","publishDate":1715463036,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Federal Prosecutors Request 40-Year Sentence for David DePape Who Attacked Pelosi’s Husband With a Hammer | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Federal prosecutors are asking a judge to impose a 40-year prison sentence for the man who broke into former U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco home seeking to hold her hostage and attacked her husband with a hammer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em> \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/prosecutors-recommend-40-years-prison-pelosi-19451917.php\">reported late Friday\u003c/a> that prosecutors made the request ahead of a sentencing hearing for David DePape, saying he has not shown remorse for the October 2022 attack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is nothing about the history and characteristics of the defendant that warrant leniency,” federal prosecutors wrote in court documents. “The defendant has admitted — indeed bragged — that he knew what he was doing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DePape was \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/pelosi-depape-hammer-attack-verdict-3e9cba213130b6db90197d17b09640fa\">convicted\u003c/a> last year of attempted kidnapping of a federal official and assault on the immediate family member of a federal official. He is scheduled to be sentenced Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The attack on then-82-year-old Paul Pelosi, which was \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/paul-pelosi-attack-video-c35ecf3131109f69f0cb66b84e986ba2\">captured on police body camera video\u003c/a> just days before the midterm elections, sent \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-san-francisco-nancy-pelosi-congress-government-and-politics-b8a3fb8b3e6f491fcfb16e155b877427\">shockwaves through the political world\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_11967686 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/DePape_verdict-1020x573.jpg']DePape \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/paul-nancy-pelosi-depape-hammer-attacked-san-francisco-aeab3fb8f30fbc6a40f334033f5becf0\">admitted during trial testimony\u003c/a> that he broke into the Pelosi’s home intending to hold the speaker hostage and “break her kneecaps” if she lied to him. He also admitted to bludgeoning Paul Pelosi with a hammer after police showed up at the home, saying his plan to end what he viewed as government corruption was unraveling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Defense attorneys said DePape was motivated by his political beliefs and caught up in conspiracy theories.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi was not at home at the time of the attack. Paul Pelosi suffered two wounds on his head, including a skull fracture that was mended with plates and screws he will have for the rest of his life. His right arm and hand were also injured.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Prosecutors made the request ahead of a sentencing hearing for David DePape, saying he has not shown remorse for the October 2022 attack.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715463896,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":10,"wordCount":322},"headData":{"title":"Federal Prosecutors Request 40-Year Sentence for David DePape Who Attacked Pelosi's Husband With a Hammer | KQED","description":"Prosecutors made the request ahead of a sentencing hearing for David DePape, saying he has not shown remorse for the October 2022 attack.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Federal Prosecutors Request 40-Year Sentence for David DePape Who Attacked Pelosi's Husband With a Hammer","datePublished":"2024-05-11T21:30:36.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-11T21:44:56.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"The Associated Press","nprStoryId":"kqed-11985847","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11985847/federal-prosecutors-request-40-year-sentence-for-david-depape-who-attacked-pelosis-husband-with-a-hammer","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Federal prosecutors are asking a judge to impose a 40-year prison sentence for the man who broke into former U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco home seeking to hold her hostage and attacked her husband with a hammer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em> \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/prosecutors-recommend-40-years-prison-pelosi-19451917.php\">reported late Friday\u003c/a> that prosecutors made the request ahead of a sentencing hearing for David DePape, saying he has not shown remorse for the October 2022 attack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is nothing about the history and characteristics of the defendant that warrant leniency,” federal prosecutors wrote in court documents. “The defendant has admitted — indeed bragged — that he knew what he was doing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DePape was \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/pelosi-depape-hammer-attack-verdict-3e9cba213130b6db90197d17b09640fa\">convicted\u003c/a> last year of attempted kidnapping of a federal official and assault on the immediate family member of a federal official. He is scheduled to be sentenced Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The attack on then-82-year-old Paul Pelosi, which was \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/paul-pelosi-attack-video-c35ecf3131109f69f0cb66b84e986ba2\">captured on police body camera video\u003c/a> just days before the midterm elections, sent \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-san-francisco-nancy-pelosi-congress-government-and-politics-b8a3fb8b3e6f491fcfb16e155b877427\">shockwaves through the political world\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"news_11967686","hero":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/DePape_verdict-1020x573.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>DePape \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/paul-nancy-pelosi-depape-hammer-attacked-san-francisco-aeab3fb8f30fbc6a40f334033f5becf0\">admitted during trial testimony\u003c/a> that he broke into the Pelosi’s home intending to hold the speaker hostage and “break her kneecaps” if she lied to him. He also admitted to bludgeoning Paul Pelosi with a hammer after police showed up at the home, saying his plan to end what he viewed as government corruption was unraveling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Defense attorneys said DePape was motivated by his political beliefs and caught up in conspiracy theories.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi was not at home at the time of the attack. Paul Pelosi suffered two wounds on his head, including a skull fracture that was mended with plates and screws he will have for the rest of his life. His right arm and hand were also injured.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985847/federal-prosecutors-request-40-year-sentence-for-david-depape-who-attacked-pelosis-husband-with-a-hammer","authors":["byline_news_11985847"],"categories":["news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_31923","news_177","news_31916"],"featImg":"news_11985850","label":"news"},"news_11985741":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985741","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985741","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"college-commencements-face-disruption-from-pro-palestinian-protests","title":"College Commencements Face Disruption From Pro-Palestinian Protests","publishDate":1715432446,"format":"standard","headTitle":"College Commencements Face Disruption From Pro-Palestinian Protests | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>At Pomona College in eastern Los Angeles County, commencement ceremonies are scheduled for this weekend on the college’s central Marston Quad, with events planned Friday through Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But as of late Thursday, a pro-Palestinian encampment on the quad was growing in the exact location where commencement is supposed to be held. Dozens of students have set up tents, Palestinian flags and barricades around the college’s graduation stage, making it unclear whether the college will be able to proceed with commencement activities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Protesters said Thursday that they have no plans to leave the encampment until the college meets their demands to divest its endowment funds from companies supporting Israel and its war in Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These schools love their pageantry and their ceremonies, so seizing the commencement plaza was really just a strategic move to show the college that we will continue to disrupt business as usual until they divest,” said Kwame Nkrumah, a sophomore at the college studying political sociology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The elite liberal arts college of about 1,700 students is one of several campuses across California with commencement events scheduled this weekend that protests could disrupt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The University of Southern California canceled its main stage commencement ceremony altogether, citing security concerns. It does have other events planned, including a celebration for graduating students and their families at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum that was held Thursday night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At UC Berkeley, which will hold its main ceremony on Saturday morning, campus officials acknowledge protests are possible but said they are moving ahead with commencement like business as usual.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They are some of the first graduations to be held since pro-Palestinian encampments and protests popped up last month across California and the rest of the country, sparked by the arrests of more than 100 protesters at Columbia University on April 18. Protesters have demanded their campuses divest from Israel. Protesters at one campus in California declared success earlier this week when Sacramento State changed its investment policy to state that the college will no longer invest “in corporations and funds that profit from genocide, ethnic cleansing and activities that violate fundamental human rights.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Pomona, campus officials said they remain committed to holding their commencement events this weekend. The first event scheduled to take place on the quad is Friday at 5 p.m. when the college plans to hold an induction for its chapter of Phi Beta Kappa, an honor society. On Saturday evening, the college plans to hold a celebratory dinner on the quad for graduates and their families before the main commencement ceremony on Sunday morning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Throughout the year, college leaders have offered to meet with student protesters and will continue to do so. We will promote safety for all members of our community and pursue our educational mission, considering the full range of viewpoints. We are committed to holding commencement to honor the Class of 2024 with their loved ones, and preparations are continuing,” a college spokesperson said in a statement to EdSource.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>College officials, who were not made available for an interview, have not disclosed how or whether they plan to clear the encampment to hold the commencement activities. Nkrumah said students are prepared for the possibility that police will attempt to clear the encampment. Last month, 20 students were arrested while occupying the college president’s office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mattin Khoshzaban, a graduating senior at Pomona, said he and his classmates have heard little from administrators ahead of this weekend’s ceremonies. Khoshzaban said he supports the protesters and their message but added he’s frustrated by the possibility that commencement could be disrupted. Like many current college seniors, he graduated from high school in 2020 and didn’t get an in-person graduation ceremony because of the COVID-19 pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Although they’re trying to protest the administration, it feels like a protest against the students. And especially because we didn’t get our first graduation,” he said. “We have our families flying in. We literally don’t know what’s going to happen.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Khoshzaban, who is studying economics, has a dozen family members who were expected to fly into the Los Angeles area starting Thursday night from Oregon, including his parents, grandparents, siblings and even aunts and uncles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My family has protested other things at different times, but they are upset for me because they know I didn’t have a high school graduation,” said Khoshzaban, who added that it would be “very meaningful” for him to be able to walk across the commencement stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anwar Mohamed, another graduating senior, feels differently. He also had his high school graduation in Chicago canceled because of the pandemic, but he isn’t worried about whether he walks across the stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Demanding that Pomona divest is a personal issue for Mohamed, who is one of the organizers of the encampment. Mohamed, who is Muslim, said he remembers his family talking about Palestine since he was just 3 years old.[aside label=\"More Coverage\" tag=\"israel-gaza-war\"]“Every time we were in Friday prayer, it was always like our prayers are to Palestine. Like our actions are to Palestine, our beings are for Palestine,” he said. “And I think for me as a senior, it’s realizing that I didn’t come here for walking across a stage. College was never about this degree. College was about doing this study and understanding the material world that we live in.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Farther north in California, at UC Berkeley, planning for commencement is proceeding normally and will be held Saturday morning at California Memorial Stadium. College officials are not ruling out the possibility of protests but said there are no plans to change any of the usual commencement programming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Berkeley graduation ceremonies have been venues for all sorts of protests for many years. This year, like every year in the past, our efforts will focus on ensuring the ceremony can be successfully held, and on supporting the ability of graduating students, their friends and families to safely enjoy and take part in an incredibly meaningful day,” said Dan Mogulof, a spokesperson for the campus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Christopher Ying, a graduating senior at UC Berkeley, said he appreciates that Berkeley is moving ahead with a typical commencement. Ying is this year’s recipient of the University Medal, Berkeley’s top honor for graduating seniors, and will give a speech at the ceremony. He received the honor in part for his work with incarcerated people, including tutoring them and helping them edit and publish news stories distributed at prisons statewide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ying doesn’t plan to address Israel’s war in Gaza during his speech, saying that it wouldn’t be genuine to talk about it because none of his extracurriculars while in college related to the conflict. But he added that the university never told him he couldn’t talk about the conflict in his speech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, at the University of Southern California, college officials canceled the commencement speech of valedictorian Asna Tabassum before canceling the ceremony altogether. Tabassum had been attacked by pro-Israel groups over a link in her Instagram bio that led to a website supporting Palestine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m glad that Berkeley is not going down that same path. Berkeley obviously has a very rich history of having been involved with the free speech movement,” Ying said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://edsource.org/2024/college-commencements-face-disruption-from-pro-palestinian-protests/711691\">\u003cem>This story originally appeared in EdSource.\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Graduations scheduled this weekend are some of the first to be held since pro-Palestinian encampments and protests popped up on college campuses across the country and California.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715451075,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":1271},"headData":{"title":"College Commencements Face Disruption From Pro-Palestinian Protests | KQED","description":"Graduations scheduled this weekend are some of the first to be held since pro-Palestinian encampments and protests popped up on college campuses across the country and California.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"College Commencements Face Disruption From Pro-Palestinian Protests","datePublished":"2024-05-11T13:00:46.000Z","dateModified":"2024-05-11T18:11:15.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png","isAccessibleForFree":"Y","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","@id":"https://www.kqed.org/#organization","name":"KQED","url":"https://www.kqed.org","logo":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}}},"source":"EdSource","sourceUrl":"https://edsource.org/","sticky":false,"nprByline":"\u003ca href=\"https://edsource.org/author/mburke\">Michael Burke\u003c/a>","nprStoryId":"kqed-11985741","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11985741/college-commencements-face-disruption-from-pro-palestinian-protests","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>At Pomona College in eastern Los Angeles County, commencement ceremonies are scheduled for this weekend on the college’s central Marston Quad, with events planned Friday through Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But as of late Thursday, a pro-Palestinian encampment on the quad was growing in the exact location where commencement is supposed to be held. Dozens of students have set up tents, Palestinian flags and barricades around the college’s graduation stage, making it unclear whether the college will be able to proceed with commencement activities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Protesters said Thursday that they have no plans to leave the encampment until the college meets their demands to divest its endowment funds from companies supporting Israel and its war in Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These schools love their pageantry and their ceremonies, so seizing the commencement plaza was really just a strategic move to show the college that we will continue to disrupt business as usual until they divest,” said Kwame Nkrumah, a sophomore at the college studying political sociology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The elite liberal arts college of about 1,700 students is one of several campuses across California with commencement events scheduled this weekend that protests could disrupt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The University of Southern California canceled its main stage commencement ceremony altogether, citing security concerns. It does have other events planned, including a celebration for graduating students and their families at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum that was held Thursday night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At UC Berkeley, which will hold its main ceremony on Saturday morning, campus officials acknowledge protests are possible but said they are moving ahead with commencement like business as usual.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They are some of the first graduations to be held since pro-Palestinian encampments and protests popped up last month across California and the rest of the country, sparked by the arrests of more than 100 protesters at Columbia University on April 18. Protesters have demanded their campuses divest from Israel. Protesters at one campus in California declared success earlier this week when Sacramento State changed its investment policy to state that the college will no longer invest “in corporations and funds that profit from genocide, ethnic cleansing and activities that violate fundamental human rights.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Pomona, campus officials said they remain committed to holding their commencement events this weekend. The first event scheduled to take place on the quad is Friday at 5 p.m. when the college plans to hold an induction for its chapter of Phi Beta Kappa, an honor society. On Saturday evening, the college plans to hold a celebratory dinner on the quad for graduates and their families before the main commencement ceremony on Sunday morning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Throughout the year, college leaders have offered to meet with student protesters and will continue to do so. We will promote safety for all members of our community and pursue our educational mission, considering the full range of viewpoints. We are committed to holding commencement to honor the Class of 2024 with their loved ones, and preparations are continuing,” a college spokesperson said in a statement to EdSource.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>College officials, who were not made available for an interview, have not disclosed how or whether they plan to clear the encampment to hold the commencement activities. Nkrumah said students are prepared for the possibility that police will attempt to clear the encampment. Last month, 20 students were arrested while occupying the college president’s office.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mattin Khoshzaban, a graduating senior at Pomona, said he and his classmates have heard little from administrators ahead of this weekend’s ceremonies. Khoshzaban said he supports the protesters and their message but added he’s frustrated by the possibility that commencement could be disrupted. Like many current college seniors, he graduated from high school in 2020 and didn’t get an in-person graduation ceremony because of the COVID-19 pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Although they’re trying to protest the administration, it feels like a protest against the students. And especially because we didn’t get our first graduation,” he said. “We have our families flying in. We literally don’t know what’s going to happen.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Khoshzaban, who is studying economics, has a dozen family members who were expected to fly into the Los Angeles area starting Thursday night from Oregon, including his parents, grandparents, siblings and even aunts and uncles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My family has protested other things at different times, but they are upset for me because they know I didn’t have a high school graduation,” said Khoshzaban, who added that it would be “very meaningful” for him to be able to walk across the commencement stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anwar Mohamed, another graduating senior, feels differently. He also had his high school graduation in Chicago canceled because of the pandemic, but he isn’t worried about whether he walks across the stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Demanding that Pomona divest is a personal issue for Mohamed, who is one of the organizers of the encampment. Mohamed, who is Muslim, said he remembers his family talking about Palestine since he was just 3 years old.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"More Coverage ","tag":"israel-gaza-war"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“Every time we were in Friday prayer, it was always like our prayers are to Palestine. Like our actions are to Palestine, our beings are for Palestine,” he said. “And I think for me as a senior, it’s realizing that I didn’t come here for walking across a stage. College was never about this degree. College was about doing this study and understanding the material world that we live in.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Farther north in California, at UC Berkeley, planning for commencement is proceeding normally and will be held Saturday morning at California Memorial Stadium. College officials are not ruling out the possibility of protests but said there are no plans to change any of the usual commencement programming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Berkeley graduation ceremonies have been venues for all sorts of protests for many years. This year, like every year in the past, our efforts will focus on ensuring the ceremony can be successfully held, and on supporting the ability of graduating students, their friends and families to safely enjoy and take part in an incredibly meaningful day,” said Dan Mogulof, a spokesperson for the campus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Christopher Ying, a graduating senior at UC Berkeley, said he appreciates that Berkeley is moving ahead with a typical commencement. Ying is this year’s recipient of the University Medal, Berkeley’s top honor for graduating seniors, and will give a speech at the ceremony. He received the honor in part for his work with incarcerated people, including tutoring them and helping them edit and publish news stories distributed at prisons statewide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ying doesn’t plan to address Israel’s war in Gaza during his speech, saying that it wouldn’t be genuine to talk about it because none of his extracurriculars while in college related to the conflict. But he added that the university never told him he couldn’t talk about the conflict in his speech.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, at the University of Southern California, college officials canceled the commencement speech of valedictorian Asna Tabassum before canceling the ceremony altogether. Tabassum had been attacked by pro-Israel groups over a link in her Instagram bio that led to a website supporting Palestine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m glad that Berkeley is not going down that same path. Berkeley obviously has a very rich history of having been involved with the free speech movement,” Ying said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://edsource.org/2024/college-commencements-face-disruption-from-pro-palestinian-protests/711691\">\u003cem>This story originally appeared in EdSource.\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985741/college-commencements-face-disruption-from-pro-palestinian-protests","authors":["byline_news_11985741"],"categories":["news_18540","news_8"],"tags":["news_34008","news_34017","news_33673","news_33647"],"featImg":"news_11984220","label":"source_news_11985741"},"news_11985839":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985839","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985839","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-could-save-millions-by-closing-more-prisons-so-why-is-newsom-holding-back","title":"California Could Save Millions by Closing More Prisons. So Why Is Newsom Holding Back?","publishDate":1715518831,"format":"standard","headTitle":"California Could Save Millions by Closing More Prisons. So Why Is Newsom Holding Back? | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":18481,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Gov. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/tag/gavin-newsom/\">Gavin Newsom\u003c/a> faces a huge deficit this spring, and he has one especially big money-saving option that he’s not using.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California’s rapidly falling inmate population could allow Newsom to close as many as \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2023/02/how-many-prisons-does-california-need/\">five more prisons\u003c/a>, analysts say, saving $1 billion a year at a moment when he’s pulling from reserves to bring the \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/tag/california-budget/\">state budget\u003c/a> into the black.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, Newsom wants to take a more cautious approach to trimming prison beds. His new budget proposal calls on the corrections department to close 46 housing blocks inside 13 state prisons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prison yard closures save money and decrease the need for staffing, but not to the extent of a prison shutdown. Newsom’s proposal would save about $80 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Saying his administration had been “scrutinizing” the prisons budget, Newsom said “We’re mindful of the direction we’re going as it relates to public safety.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the inmate population’s peak in 2006, California locked up 165,000 people in state prisons. Today, after a decade of sentencing changes, federal court intervention and a surge of releases tied to COVID-19, California’s prisons house about 93,000 people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because of that trend, Newsom has already moved to close four prisons over the course of his administration. He projects that those shutdowns will save the state $3.4 billion by 2027.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He suggested on Friday that the forces fighting prison closures — labor unions representing prison employees, the communities dependent on prison jobs, legislation and litigation intended to slow or stop the closures — forced him to take smaller steps than shuttering entire facilities while he crafted his plan to close a projected \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2024/05/california-budget-deficit-newsom-may-proposal/\">$27.6 billion deficit\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Prison housing unit deactivations can happen much sooner than prison closures and provide us more flexibility,” Newsom said. “Legislative leaders have asked me, are we considering collectively reducing the larger footprint in the state? The answer is yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But we want to do it in a pragmatic and thoughtful way, we want to be mindful of labor concerns and community concerns, we want to be mindful of trends and we want to be mindful of the unknown, meaning there are proposals to roll back some of our criminal justice reforms that could have significant impact on the census and population.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>California cities fight prison closures\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>So far, Newsom closed the Deuel Vocational Institution in Tracy in 2021 and the California Correctional Center in Susanville in 2023. He ended a lease with a privately run prison called the California City Correctional Facility, and the corrections department is shutting down Chuckwalla Valley State Prison near the Arizona border.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom at Friday’s budget press conference said he would accelerate the proposed March 2025 closure of Chuckwalla prison in Blythe to November, although his office hasn’t yet provided details on how much money that would save the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That news surprised leaders in Blythe, where city officials had attempted to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2023/05/california-state-prison-closure/\">save the prison\u003c/a> as one of the community’s major employers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This news is disheartening to say the least,” said Blythe Interim City Manager Mallory Crecelius. “Expediting the closure was not discussed with the city prior to it being included in the May (revised budget), and we learned about it with everyone else. Our hearts are heavy for the employees and inmates at (Chuckwalla Valley State Prison) whose lives will be directly impacted as this prison is shuttered.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because of the declining inmate headcount, California can close \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2023/05/california-state-prison-closure/\">up to five more of its 33 prisons\u003c/a> and eight yards within operating prisons while still complying with a federal court order that caps the system’s capacity, the Legislative Analyst’s Office found last year. The report estimated the potential savings at $1 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2024/01/california-prison-cost-per-inmate/\">costs of incarcerating prisoners\u003c/a>, meanwhile, is more than ever, rising to $132,860 per inmate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those numbers have prompted Democratic lawmakers over the past several years to press for more closures, particularly as they try to protect social services from budget cuts or to put money into inmate rehabilitation programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If the people you’re serving in the department continues to go down, why is the cost going up?” Democratic Assemblymeber James Ramos of San Bernardino asked corrections department officials at an April budget hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Prison union sees safety risks in closures\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Amber-Rose Howard, executive director of Californians United for a Responsible Budget, which advocates for reducing the number of prisons and cutting the prison population, said Newsom’s proposal to close yards instead of whole prisons misses an opportunity for bigger savings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Related Stories\" postID=\"news_11985798,news_11985798,news_11981977\"]“The truth is, it doesn’t go far enough,” Howard said. “When only a single yard is closed, then that means that there’s still tens of millions of dollars being spent on operational costs (and) administrative staffing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She noted that the state still has 15,000 empty prison beds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These yard deactivation will save $80 million annually,” she said, “and that’s not even equal to the cost savings of one prison closing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom has previously said he wanted to maintain some capacity in the prisons to provide more space for rehabilitation efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California Correctional Peace Officers Association, the union representing prison guards, has argued that shuttering prisons puts guards and inmates in danger. It’s a heavyweight in the Capitol, and it has supported Newsom. It contributed $1.75 million to help \u003ca href=\"https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/the-state-worker/article253144638.html\">Newsom defeat a recall campaign\u003c/a> in 2021, and it gave $1 million to back \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/mental-health/2024/03/proposition-1-gavin-newsom-2/\">Newsom’s mental health ballot measure\u003c/a> that voters approved in March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Writing in opposition to \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2178\">a bill that would limit the number of empty beds\u003c/a> the prison system can maintain, the union said prisons are still holding more inmates than they were designed to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Higher densities of inmates pose substantial risks to CCPOA’s membership, as well as other staff and inmates. The denser the population, the greater the risk of assaults and other acts of violence,” the union wrote.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Gov. Gavin Newsom is recommending small cuts to the state prison system, avoiding the closures of additional facilities.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715480664,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":28,"wordCount":1057},"headData":{"title":"California Could Save Millions by Closing More Prisons. So Why Is Newsom Holding Back? | KQED","description":"Gov. Gavin Newsom is recommending small cuts to the state prison system, avoiding the closures of additional facilities.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"California Could Save Millions by Closing More Prisons. 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His new budget proposal calls on the corrections department to close 46 housing blocks inside 13 state prisons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prison yard closures save money and decrease the need for staffing, but not to the extent of a prison shutdown. Newsom’s proposal would save about $80 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Saying his administration had been “scrutinizing” the prisons budget, Newsom said “We’re mindful of the direction we’re going as it relates to public safety.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the inmate population’s peak in 2006, California locked up 165,000 people in state prisons. Today, after a decade of sentencing changes, federal court intervention and a surge of releases tied to COVID-19, California’s prisons house about 93,000 people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because of that trend, Newsom has already moved to close four prisons over the course of his administration. He projects that those shutdowns will save the state $3.4 billion by 2027.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He suggested on Friday that the forces fighting prison closures — labor unions representing prison employees, the communities dependent on prison jobs, legislation and litigation intended to slow or stop the closures — forced him to take smaller steps than shuttering entire facilities while he crafted his plan to close a projected \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2024/05/california-budget-deficit-newsom-may-proposal/\">$27.6 billion deficit\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Prison housing unit deactivations can happen much sooner than prison closures and provide us more flexibility,” Newsom said. “Legislative leaders have asked me, are we considering collectively reducing the larger footprint in the state? The answer is yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But we want to do it in a pragmatic and thoughtful way, we want to be mindful of labor concerns and community concerns, we want to be mindful of trends and we want to be mindful of the unknown, meaning there are proposals to roll back some of our criminal justice reforms that could have significant impact on the census and population.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>California cities fight prison closures\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>So far, Newsom closed the Deuel Vocational Institution in Tracy in 2021 and the California Correctional Center in Susanville in 2023. He ended a lease with a privately run prison called the California City Correctional Facility, and the corrections department is shutting down Chuckwalla Valley State Prison near the Arizona border.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom at Friday’s budget press conference said he would accelerate the proposed March 2025 closure of Chuckwalla prison in Blythe to November, although his office hasn’t yet provided details on how much money that would save the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That news surprised leaders in Blythe, where city officials had attempted to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2023/05/california-state-prison-closure/\">save the prison\u003c/a> as one of the community’s major employers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This news is disheartening to say the least,” said Blythe Interim City Manager Mallory Crecelius. “Expediting the closure was not discussed with the city prior to it being included in the May (revised budget), and we learned about it with everyone else. Our hearts are heavy for the employees and inmates at (Chuckwalla Valley State Prison) whose lives will be directly impacted as this prison is shuttered.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because of the declining inmate headcount, California can close \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2023/05/california-state-prison-closure/\">up to five more of its 33 prisons\u003c/a> and eight yards within operating prisons while still complying with a federal court order that caps the system’s capacity, the Legislative Analyst’s Office found last year. The report estimated the potential savings at $1 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2024/01/california-prison-cost-per-inmate/\">costs of incarcerating prisoners\u003c/a>, meanwhile, is more than ever, rising to $132,860 per inmate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those numbers have prompted Democratic lawmakers over the past several years to press for more closures, particularly as they try to protect social services from budget cuts or to put money into inmate rehabilitation programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If the people you’re serving in the department continues to go down, why is the cost going up?” Democratic Assemblymeber James Ramos of San Bernardino asked corrections department officials at an April budget hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Prison union sees safety risks in closures\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Amber-Rose Howard, executive director of Californians United for a Responsible Budget, which advocates for reducing the number of prisons and cutting the prison population, said Newsom’s proposal to close yards instead of whole prisons misses an opportunity for bigger savings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","postid":"news_11985798,news_11985798,news_11981977"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“The truth is, it doesn’t go far enough,” Howard said. “When only a single yard is closed, then that means that there’s still tens of millions of dollars being spent on operational costs (and) administrative staffing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She noted that the state still has 15,000 empty prison beds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These yard deactivation will save $80 million annually,” she said, “and that’s not even equal to the cost savings of one prison closing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom has previously said he wanted to maintain some capacity in the prisons to provide more space for rehabilitation efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California Correctional Peace Officers Association, the union representing prison guards, has argued that shuttering prisons puts guards and inmates in danger. It’s a heavyweight in the Capitol, and it has supported Newsom. It contributed $1.75 million to help \u003ca href=\"https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/the-state-worker/article253144638.html\">Newsom defeat a recall campaign\u003c/a> in 2021, and it gave $1 million to back \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/mental-health/2024/03/proposition-1-gavin-newsom-2/\">Newsom’s mental health ballot measure\u003c/a> that voters approved in March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Writing in opposition to \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2178\">a bill that would limit the number of empty beds\u003c/a> the prison system can maintain, the union said prisons are still holding more inmates than they were designed to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Higher densities of inmates pose substantial risks to CCPOA’s membership, as well as other staff and inmates. The denser the population, the greater the risk of assaults and other acts of violence,” the union wrote.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985839/california-could-save-millions-by-closing-more-prisons-so-why-is-newsom-holding-back","authors":["byline_news_11985839"],"categories":["news_1758","news_6188","news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_27946","news_402","news_18545","news_25015"],"affiliates":["news_18481"],"featImg":"news_11985840","label":"news_18481"},"news_11985769":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985769","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985769","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-is-testing-new-generative-ai-tools-heres-what-to-know","title":"California Is Testing New Generative AI Tools. Here's What to Know","publishDate":1715446838,"format":"standard","headTitle":"California Is Testing New Generative AI Tools. Here’s What to Know | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>California’s government will soon use generative artificial intelligence tools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom’s administration announced Thursday the state will partner with five companies to develop and test generative AI tools that could improve public service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California is among the first states to roll out guidelines on when and how state agencies can buy AI tools as lawmakers across the country grapple with how to regulate the emerging technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s a closer look at the details:\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What is generative AI?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Generative AI is a branch of artificial intelligence that can create new content, such as text, audio and photos, in response to prompts. It’s the technology behind ChatGPT, the controversial writing tool launched by Microsoft-backed OpenAI. The San Francisco-based company Anthropic — backed by Google and Amazon — is also in the generative AI game.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How might California use it?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>California envisions using this type of technology to help cut down on customer call wait times at state agencies and to improve traffic and road safety, among other things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Four state departments — the Department of Tax and Fee Administration, the California Department of Transportation, the Department of Public Health, and the Health and Human Services Department — will initially test generative AI tools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The tax and fee agency administers more than 40 programs and took more than 660,000 calls from businesses last year, Director Nick Maduros said. The state hopes to deploy AI to listen in on those calls and pull up key information on state tax codes in real time, allowing the workers to answer questions more quickly because they don’t have to look up the information themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In another example, the state wants to use the technology to provide people with information about health and social service benefits in languages other than English.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Who will use these AI tools?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The public doesn’t have access to these tools quite yet, but possibly will in the future. The state will start a six-month trial, during which state workers will test the tools internally. In the tax example, the state plans to have the technology analyze recordings of calls from businesses and see how the AI handles them afterward — rather than have it run in real time, Maduros said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, not all the tools are designed to interact with the public. For instance, the tools designed to help improve highway congestion and road safety would only be used by state officials to analyze traffic data and brainstorm potential solutions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State workers will test and evaluate their effectiveness and risks. If the tests go well, the state will consider deploying the technology more broadly.[aside label=\"Related Stories\" tag=\"artificial-intelligence\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How much does it cost?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The ultimate cost is unclear. For now, the state will pay each of the five companies $1 to start a six-month internal trial. Then, the state can assess whether to sign new contracts for long-term use of the tools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If it turns out it doesn’t serve the public better, then we’re out a dollar,” Maduros said. “And I think that’s a pretty good deal for the citizens of California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state currently has a massive budget deficit, which could make it harder for Newsom to make the case that such technology is worth deploying.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Administration officials said they didn’t have an estimate on what such tools would eventually cost the state, and they did not immediately release copies of the agreements with the five companies that will test the technology on a trial basis. Those companies are: Deloitte Consulting, LLP, INRIX, Inc., Accenture, LLP, Ignyte Group, LLC, SymSoft Solutions LLC.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What could go wrong?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The rapidly growing technology has also raised concerns about job loss, misinformation, privacy and automation bias.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State officials and academic experts said generative AI has significant potential to help government agencies become more efficient, but safeguards and oversight are also urgently needed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Testing the tools on a limited basis is one way to limit potential risks, said Meredith Lee, chief technical adviser for UC Berkeley’s College of Computing, Data Science, and Society.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, she added, the testing can’t stop after six months. The state must have a consistent process for testing and learning about the tools’ potential risks if it decides to deploy them on a wider scale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom's administration announced Thursday the state will partner with five companies to develop and test generative AI tools that could improve public service.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715390633,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":744},"headData":{"title":"California Is Testing New Generative AI Tools. Here's What to Know | KQED","description":"Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom's administration announced Thursday the state will partner with five companies to develop and test generative AI tools that could improve public service.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"California Is Testing New Generative AI Tools. 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Gavin Newsom’s administration announced Thursday the state will partner with five companies to develop and test generative AI tools that could improve public service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California is among the first states to roll out guidelines on when and how state agencies can buy AI tools as lawmakers across the country grapple with how to regulate the emerging technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s a closer look at the details:\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What is generative AI?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Generative AI is a branch of artificial intelligence that can create new content, such as text, audio and photos, in response to prompts. It’s the technology behind ChatGPT, the controversial writing tool launched by Microsoft-backed OpenAI. The San Francisco-based company Anthropic — backed by Google and Amazon — is also in the generative AI game.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How might California use it?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>California envisions using this type of technology to help cut down on customer call wait times at state agencies and to improve traffic and road safety, among other things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Four state departments — the Department of Tax and Fee Administration, the California Department of Transportation, the Department of Public Health, and the Health and Human Services Department — will initially test generative AI tools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The tax and fee agency administers more than 40 programs and took more than 660,000 calls from businesses last year, Director Nick Maduros said. The state hopes to deploy AI to listen in on those calls and pull up key information on state tax codes in real time, allowing the workers to answer questions more quickly because they don’t have to look up the information themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In another example, the state wants to use the technology to provide people with information about health and social service benefits in languages other than English.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Who will use these AI tools?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The public doesn’t have access to these tools quite yet, but possibly will in the future. The state will start a six-month trial, during which state workers will test the tools internally. In the tax example, the state plans to have the technology analyze recordings of calls from businesses and see how the AI handles them afterward — rather than have it run in real time, Maduros said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, not all the tools are designed to interact with the public. For instance, the tools designed to help improve highway congestion and road safety would only be used by state officials to analyze traffic data and brainstorm potential solutions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State workers will test and evaluate their effectiveness and risks. If the tests go well, the state will consider deploying the technology more broadly.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","tag":"artificial-intelligence"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How much does it cost?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The ultimate cost is unclear. For now, the state will pay each of the five companies $1 to start a six-month internal trial. Then, the state can assess whether to sign new contracts for long-term use of the tools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If it turns out it doesn’t serve the public better, then we’re out a dollar,” Maduros said. “And I think that’s a pretty good deal for the citizens of California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state currently has a massive budget deficit, which could make it harder for Newsom to make the case that such technology is worth deploying.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Administration officials said they didn’t have an estimate on what such tools would eventually cost the state, and they did not immediately release copies of the agreements with the five companies that will test the technology on a trial basis. Those companies are: Deloitte Consulting, LLP, INRIX, Inc., Accenture, LLP, Ignyte Group, LLC, SymSoft Solutions LLC.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What could go wrong?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The rapidly growing technology has also raised concerns about job loss, misinformation, privacy and automation bias.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>State officials and academic experts said generative AI has significant potential to help government agencies become more efficient, but safeguards and oversight are also urgently needed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Testing the tools on a limited basis is one way to limit potential risks, said Meredith Lee, chief technical adviser for UC Berkeley’s College of Computing, Data Science, and Society.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, she added, the testing can’t stop after six months. The state must have a consistent process for testing and learning about the tools’ potential risks if it decides to deploy them on a wider scale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985769/california-is-testing-new-generative-ai-tools-heres-what-to-know","authors":["byline_news_11985769"],"categories":["news_8","news_248"],"tags":["news_25184","news_2114","news_1153","news_33175","news_32668","news_23556"],"featImg":"news_11984357","label":"news"},"news_11985788":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985788","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985788","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"their-batteries-hurt-the-environment-but-evs-still-beat-gas-cars-heres-why","title":"Their Batteries Hurt the Environment, but EVs Still Beat Gas Cars. Here's Why","publishDate":1715454024,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Their Batteries Hurt the Environment, but EVs Still Beat Gas Cars. Here’s Why | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":253,"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Electric vehicles are sometimes called “zero-emission vehicles.” But the batteries that go into them are not zero-emission at all. In fact, making those batteries takes \u003ca href=\"https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/how-much-co2-emitted-manufacturing-batteries\">a lot of (mostly-not-clean) energy \u003c/a>and \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/electric-car-batteries-geography/\">hurts the environment in other ways\u003c/a>, a fact that’s become common knowledge after \u003ca href=\"https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/partner-content-audi-nl-the-cost-of-batteries\">widespread \u003c/a>media \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2021/jan/11/the-curse-of-white-oil-electric-vehicles-dirty-secret-podcast\">coverage\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Does that environmental damage cancel out the green benefits of giving up gasoline? Or, as Jennifer Sousie, who owns a Nissan Leaf, put it: “Does the manufacturing and ultimate disposal of the batteries completely negate all the good that the no-emission aspect of my car does?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The answer is no. Here’s why.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Batteries do more harm upfront — then less year after year\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>With all that’s required to mine and process minerals — from giant diesel trucks to fossil-fuel-powered refineries — EV battery production has \u003ca href=\"https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/the-anti-dread-climate-podcast/whats-the-downside-of-going-electric\">a significant carbon footprint\u003c/a>. As a result, \u003ca href=\"https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/comparative-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-a-mid-size-bev-and-ice-vehicle\">building an electric vehicle\u003c/a> does more damage to the climate than building a gas car does.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the gas car starts to catch up as soon as it goes its first mile.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you look at the climate impact of building \u003cem>and using \u003c/em>a vehicle — something called a “lifecycle analysis” — \u003ca href=\"https://theicct.org/publication/a-global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars/\">study \u003c/a>after \u003ca href=\"https://www.osti.gov/biblio/1875764/\">study\u003c/a> has found a clear benefit to EVs. The size of the benefit varies — by vehicle, the source of the electricity it runs on, and a host of other factors — but the overall trend is obvious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The results were clearer than we thought, actually,” says Georg Bieker, with the International Council on Clean Transportation, who authored one of those reports. (This is the group \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2015/09/24/443053672/how-a-little-lab-in-west-virginia-caught-volkswagens-big-cheat\">that busted Volkswagen\u003c/a> for cheating on its emissions tests. Holding industries accountable for whether they’re actually reducing emissions is the ICCT’s whole \u003cem>thing.\u003c/em>)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Building a battery is an environmental cost that’s paid once. Burning gasoline is a cost that’s paid again, and again, and again.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Gasoline’s environmental cost is ongoing\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Several listeners asked NPR about the negative impacts of mines, beyond carbon emissions. There are several: They disrupt habitats. They pollute with runoff or other waste. And people can suffer in other ways: \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/ev-mineral-manganese-south-africa/\">worker poisonings\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/02/01/1152893248/red-cobalt-congo-drc-mining-siddharth-kara\">child labor\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/lithium-water-mining-indigenous-cb2f5b1580c12f8ba1b19223648069b7\">indigenous communities’ rights violated\u003c/a> and more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thea Riofrancos is a political scientist who \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/01/29/1152387283/the-hidden-environmental-costs-of-the-transitioning-to-electric-vehicles\">has sounded the alarm\u003c/a> about these impacts. She’s glad people are asking these questions — which she’d like to see them do for more than just EVs. “The fact that mined products are in basically everything we use should give us pause,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, she says, anybody weighing an EV versus a gas-powered car needs to think just as carefully about the other side of the equation: the cost of relying on fossil fuels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A traditional car needs mining every day, needs mining every time it’s used. It needs the whole extraction complex of fossil fuels in order to power it,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The carbon pollution from burning gasoline and diesel in vehicles is the \u003ca href=\"https://usafacts.org/articles/what-are-the-main-sources-of-us-greenhouse-gas-emissions/\">top contributor to climate change in the U.S\u003c/a>. And there are other costs: Oil spills; funding for corrupt oil-rich regimes; the illnesses and preventable deaths caused by pollution from fossil fuels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Add it up, she says, and if you’re concerned about all the harms from mining, you’ll still want to choose an EV over a comparable gas car.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>New technology and better practices can reduce EVs’ footprint\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>There are several ways that manufacturing EVs could become cleaner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Public pressure and a shift toward mining in regions with stronger regulations, like the U.S. instead of China, could reduce the harms done in mines. New technology, like \u003ca href=\"https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/03/11/lithium-reserves-boom-mining-elements-energy\">a mining method called “direct lithium extraction,”\u003c/a> could produce minerals with much smaller footprints.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Batteries are also changing. A group called Lead the Charge is \u003ca href=\"https://leadthecharge.org/scorecards/\">evaluating automakers\u003c/a> on their efforts to clean up supply chains and source materials ethically; there’s a wide range of ratings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, if you want to avoid cobalt in your battery because of the horrific mining conditions, you could seek out an LFP battery, which is made \u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ev-batteries-lithium-iron-phosphate-narrows-gap-with-nickel-cobalt-2023-06-22/\">without cobalt\u003c/a> – they’re used in vehicles like the Tesla Model 3 and Ford Mach-E. In the future, batteries based on sodium might be an alternative to lithium.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And last but not least, battery minerals \u003ca href=\"https://www.nhpr.org/environment/2022-01-26/mass-startup-transforms-old-electric-car-batteries-into-better-than-new-ones\">can be recycled\u003c/a>. This won’t meaningfully reduce the need for mining until huge numbers of EVs on the road have reached the end of their lifespan. But eventually, the same molecules of lithium and nickel could be used for many generations of cars – something that can’t be said for fossil fuels. (Recycling batteries is also important because it addresses environmental concerns about the risks of throwing them out.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985790\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985790\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/gettyimages-1237977311_wide-fc4aa98bd1e7a13368e09d93ce0698d1c795b3ad-copy.jpg\" alt=\"A platform with four wheels sits parked on the side of the road.\" width=\"1300\" height=\"731\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/gettyimages-1237977311_wide-fc4aa98bd1e7a13368e09d93ce0698d1c795b3ad-copy.jpg 1300w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/gettyimages-1237977311_wide-fc4aa98bd1e7a13368e09d93ce0698d1c795b3ad-copy-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/gettyimages-1237977311_wide-fc4aa98bd1e7a13368e09d93ce0698d1c795b3ad-copy-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/gettyimages-1237977311_wide-fc4aa98bd1e7a13368e09d93ce0698d1c795b3ad-copy-160x90.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A battery pack and a GMC Hummer EV stand outside an event in Lansing, Mich., in 2022. Thea Riofrancos says car shoppers concerned about the environmental impacts of mining for batteries can choose a smaller EV, instead of a behemoth like a Hummer, to minimize the harms. \u003ccite>(Jeff Kowalsky/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>What’s best for the planet? Smaller batteries, fewer vehicles\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, for people who want to minimize their impact on the environment today, Riofrancos has some advice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Related Stories\" postID=\"news_11980088,science_1992222,science_1991185\"]First, ask whether you need a car at all. Riofrancos is a big advocate for bikes and public transit, which have much smaller footprints than an EV. But she also knows first-hand that many parts of the U.S. are not designed for car-free living — after years as a bike commuter, she now lives in Providence, Rhode Island, where that doesn’t work. (She tried.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She and her husband recently replaced their vehicle. “I was not going to buy another car that uses gasoline, knowing what I know about the climate,” she says. “But I also have a lot of question marks about EVs, knowing what I know about EV supply chains.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So after careful consideration, she bought an EV. But not just any EV. A used Chevy Bolt, which is a \u003cem>small \u003c/em>EV — smaller batteries require less mining. And since it was used, it was both more affordable and already had more than made up for the impacts of its manufacturing through the gasoline it had saved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Listeners worried about battery mining impacts are asking the right questions, Riofrancos says. And the answers are more complicated than “yes” or “no” to EVs — they might include what kind of EV, what size and type of battery, and whether to buy a car at all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You know, there’s no perfect world out there, but there is better and worse and everything in between,” Riofrancos says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Experts say making the batteries that power electric vehicles is not a zero-emission process and has a significant carbon footprint, but that it's still a better alternative to gasoline vehicles in the long run. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715454574,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":27,"wordCount":1194},"headData":{"title":"Their Batteries Hurt the Environment, but EVs Still Beat Gas Cars. 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In fact, making those batteries takes \u003ca href=\"https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/how-much-co2-emitted-manufacturing-batteries\">a lot of (mostly-not-clean) energy \u003c/a>and \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/electric-car-batteries-geography/\">hurts the environment in other ways\u003c/a>, a fact that’s become common knowledge after \u003ca href=\"https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/partner-content-audi-nl-the-cost-of-batteries\">widespread \u003c/a>media \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2021/jan/11/the-curse-of-white-oil-electric-vehicles-dirty-secret-podcast\">coverage\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Does that environmental damage cancel out the green benefits of giving up gasoline? Or, as Jennifer Sousie, who owns a Nissan Leaf, put it: “Does the manufacturing and ultimate disposal of the batteries completely negate all the good that the no-emission aspect of my car does?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The answer is no. Here’s why.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Batteries do more harm upfront — then less year after year\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>With all that’s required to mine and process minerals — from giant diesel trucks to fossil-fuel-powered refineries — EV battery production has \u003ca href=\"https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/the-anti-dread-climate-podcast/whats-the-downside-of-going-electric\">a significant carbon footprint\u003c/a>. As a result, \u003ca href=\"https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/comparative-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-a-mid-size-bev-and-ice-vehicle\">building an electric vehicle\u003c/a> does more damage to the climate than building a gas car does.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the gas car starts to catch up as soon as it goes its first mile.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you look at the climate impact of building \u003cem>and using \u003c/em>a vehicle — something called a “lifecycle analysis” — \u003ca href=\"https://theicct.org/publication/a-global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars/\">study \u003c/a>after \u003ca href=\"https://www.osti.gov/biblio/1875764/\">study\u003c/a> has found a clear benefit to EVs. The size of the benefit varies — by vehicle, the source of the electricity it runs on, and a host of other factors — but the overall trend is obvious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The results were clearer than we thought, actually,” says Georg Bieker, with the International Council on Clean Transportation, who authored one of those reports. (This is the group \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2015/09/24/443053672/how-a-little-lab-in-west-virginia-caught-volkswagens-big-cheat\">that busted Volkswagen\u003c/a> for cheating on its emissions tests. Holding industries accountable for whether they’re actually reducing emissions is the ICCT’s whole \u003cem>thing.\u003c/em>)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Building a battery is an environmental cost that’s paid once. Burning gasoline is a cost that’s paid again, and again, and again.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Gasoline’s environmental cost is ongoing\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Several listeners asked NPR about the negative impacts of mines, beyond carbon emissions. There are several: They disrupt habitats. They pollute with runoff or other waste. And people can suffer in other ways: \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/ev-mineral-manganese-south-africa/\">worker poisonings\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/02/01/1152893248/red-cobalt-congo-drc-mining-siddharth-kara\">child labor\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/lithium-water-mining-indigenous-cb2f5b1580c12f8ba1b19223648069b7\">indigenous communities’ rights violated\u003c/a> and more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thea Riofrancos is a political scientist who \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/01/29/1152387283/the-hidden-environmental-costs-of-the-transitioning-to-electric-vehicles\">has sounded the alarm\u003c/a> about these impacts. She’s glad people are asking these questions — which she’d like to see them do for more than just EVs. “The fact that mined products are in basically everything we use should give us pause,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, she says, anybody weighing an EV versus a gas-powered car needs to think just as carefully about the other side of the equation: the cost of relying on fossil fuels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A traditional car needs mining every day, needs mining every time it’s used. It needs the whole extraction complex of fossil fuels in order to power it,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The carbon pollution from burning gasoline and diesel in vehicles is the \u003ca href=\"https://usafacts.org/articles/what-are-the-main-sources-of-us-greenhouse-gas-emissions/\">top contributor to climate change in the U.S\u003c/a>. And there are other costs: Oil spills; funding for corrupt oil-rich regimes; the illnesses and preventable deaths caused by pollution from fossil fuels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Add it up, she says, and if you’re concerned about all the harms from mining, you’ll still want to choose an EV over a comparable gas car.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>New technology and better practices can reduce EVs’ footprint\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>There are several ways that manufacturing EVs could become cleaner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Public pressure and a shift toward mining in regions with stronger regulations, like the U.S. instead of China, could reduce the harms done in mines. New technology, like \u003ca href=\"https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/03/11/lithium-reserves-boom-mining-elements-energy\">a mining method called “direct lithium extraction,”\u003c/a> could produce minerals with much smaller footprints.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Batteries are also changing. A group called Lead the Charge is \u003ca href=\"https://leadthecharge.org/scorecards/\">evaluating automakers\u003c/a> on their efforts to clean up supply chains and source materials ethically; there’s a wide range of ratings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, if you want to avoid cobalt in your battery because of the horrific mining conditions, you could seek out an LFP battery, which is made \u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ev-batteries-lithium-iron-phosphate-narrows-gap-with-nickel-cobalt-2023-06-22/\">without cobalt\u003c/a> – they’re used in vehicles like the Tesla Model 3 and Ford Mach-E. In the future, batteries based on sodium might be an alternative to lithium.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And last but not least, battery minerals \u003ca href=\"https://www.nhpr.org/environment/2022-01-26/mass-startup-transforms-old-electric-car-batteries-into-better-than-new-ones\">can be recycled\u003c/a>. This won’t meaningfully reduce the need for mining until huge numbers of EVs on the road have reached the end of their lifespan. But eventually, the same molecules of lithium and nickel could be used for many generations of cars – something that can’t be said for fossil fuels. (Recycling batteries is also important because it addresses environmental concerns about the risks of throwing them out.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985790\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11985790\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/gettyimages-1237977311_wide-fc4aa98bd1e7a13368e09d93ce0698d1c795b3ad-copy.jpg\" alt=\"A platform with four wheels sits parked on the side of the road.\" width=\"1300\" height=\"731\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/gettyimages-1237977311_wide-fc4aa98bd1e7a13368e09d93ce0698d1c795b3ad-copy.jpg 1300w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/gettyimages-1237977311_wide-fc4aa98bd1e7a13368e09d93ce0698d1c795b3ad-copy-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/gettyimages-1237977311_wide-fc4aa98bd1e7a13368e09d93ce0698d1c795b3ad-copy-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/gettyimages-1237977311_wide-fc4aa98bd1e7a13368e09d93ce0698d1c795b3ad-copy-160x90.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A battery pack and a GMC Hummer EV stand outside an event in Lansing, Mich., in 2022. Thea Riofrancos says car shoppers concerned about the environmental impacts of mining for batteries can choose a smaller EV, instead of a behemoth like a Hummer, to minimize the harms. \u003ccite>(Jeff Kowalsky/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>What’s best for the planet? Smaller batteries, fewer vehicles\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, for people who want to minimize their impact on the environment today, Riofrancos has some advice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"label":"Related Stories ","postid":"news_11980088,science_1992222,science_1991185"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>First, ask whether you need a car at all. Riofrancos is a big advocate for bikes and public transit, which have much smaller footprints than an EV. But she also knows first-hand that many parts of the U.S. are not designed for car-free living — after years as a bike commuter, she now lives in Providence, Rhode Island, where that doesn’t work. (She tried.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She and her husband recently replaced their vehicle. “I was not going to buy another car that uses gasoline, knowing what I know about the climate,” she says. “But I also have a lot of question marks about EVs, knowing what I know about EV supply chains.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So after careful consideration, she bought an EV. But not just any EV. A used Chevy Bolt, which is a \u003cem>small \u003c/em>EV — smaller batteries require less mining. And since it was used, it was both more affordable and already had more than made up for the impacts of its manufacturing through the gasoline it had saved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Listeners worried about battery mining impacts are asking the right questions, Riofrancos says. And the answers are more complicated than “yes” or “no” to EVs — they might include what kind of EV, what size and type of battery, and whether to buy a car at all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You know, there’s no perfect world out there, but there is better and worse and everything in between,” Riofrancos says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985788/their-batteries-hurt-the-environment-but-evs-still-beat-gas-cars-heres-why","authors":["byline_news_11985788"],"categories":["news_19906","news_8","news_356","news_248","news_1397"],"tags":["news_21348","news_27626","news_3187","news_30923"],"affiliates":["news_253"],"featImg":"news_11985791","label":"news_253"},"news_11985798":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985798","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985798","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"california-has-a-multibillion-dollar-budget-deficit-heres-what-you-need-to-know","title":"California Has a Multibillion-Dollar Budget Deficit. Here's What You Need to Know","publishDate":1715443259,"format":"standard","headTitle":"California Has a Multibillion-Dollar Budget Deficit. Here’s What You Need to Know | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>California has \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-budget-deficit-gov-gavin-newsom-8f502d57d00d551c0b6b6331367f7a25\">a huge budget problem\u003c/a> that could force thorny decisions from Democratic leaders who enjoyed a more than $100 billion surplus just three years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is the second year in a row the nation’s most populous state is facing a multibillion-dollar shortfall. State revenues have continued to fall amid increasing inflation and a slowdown in the state’s usually robust technology industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday announced his plan to address the deficit in the state’s budget. The release of his plan kicks off a budget negotiation marathon with Democratic lawmakers, who hold supermajorities in both chambers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom and lawmakers have until June 15 to pass a budget, or lawmakers don’t get paid.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How big is the budget?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Newsom proposed a $288 billion spending plan on Friday for the fiscal year that starts July 1. That is well below the nearly \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-state-budget-2023-2db8442a1d7c0ecc5b6827207c1dad03\">$311 billion budget\u003c/a> he signed into law last year. But it is still by far the largest of any state in the country. New York recently passed a $237 billion budget, and Texas and Florida spend far less annually.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What about the deficit?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>It’s complicated. Newsom announced on Friday \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-budget-deficit-gov-gavin-newsom-8f502d57d00d551c0b6b6331367f7a25\">a $26.7 billion deficit\u003c/a>, but it’s really closer to $45 billion. That’s because Newsom didn’t include roughly \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-budget-deficit-7f550b21eb13034077bc97e447e30b66\">$17.3 billion worth of actions\u003c/a> he and lawmakers already agreed on. Those included a cut of $3.6 billion in primarily one-time funding to some school, welfare and climate programs. The plan also delays and defers about $5.2 billion in spending for various programs, including $1 billion to fund rail and public transit systems.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why does the deficit matter?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>California’s constitution requires lawmakers and the governor to balance the budget — meaning the state can’t spend more money than it has. That means they have to either find more money by raising taxes, which Newsom doesn’t want to do, or find ways to cut, shift or delay spending. Newsom’s proposal focuses mostly on cuts, but it will also dip into reserve funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What are those cuts?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Newsom proposed cuts across 260 state programs. Here are some of the highlights:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eliminating 10,000 vacant state worker jobs for a saving of $762 million. Newsom didn’t immediately provide a list of all the jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clawing back $6.7 billion previously set aside to \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-medicaid-rates-gavin-newsom-optometrists-ca1d0fac1f662de24eca5289ff8885c1\">pay doctors more\u003c/a> to see poor patients and immigrants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shaving off nearly 8% in operating costs to almost all state agencies through actions like getting rid of landlines in state offices and evaluating printing needs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cutting $2 billion from broadband initiatives to pursue cheaper options\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Closing housing units with 4,600 beds across 13 state prisons to save $81 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reducing funding for homelessness and housing initiatives by nearly $1.2 billion, including $474 million from an anti-foreclosure program to preserve existing affordable housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reducing $500 million in water storage funding. He didn’t offer specifics on how that would be applied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shutting down an in-home service care program that serves 14,000 low-income, undocumented immigrants with disabilities for a savings of $94.7 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cutting roughly $2 billion from six education programs, including $550 million from an initiative to upgrade preschool and kindergarten facilities and $510 million in scholarships for middle class college students pursuing a teaching credential.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eliminating $352.5 million in funding for state and local public health and $189.4 million from mental health services fund.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How about tax increases?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Newsom has repeatedly said he could balance the budget without raising taxes. But his proposal calls for the suspension of the widely used net operating loss tax deduction for businesses the following fiscal year, which some are seeing as a tax increase.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He is also increasing the tax on managed care organizations, the private companies that contract with the state to provide Medicaid benefits.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"This is the second year in a row California is facing a multibillion-dollar shortfall. State revenues have continued to fall amid increasing inflation and a slowdown in the state’s usually robust technology industry.\r\n","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715451232,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":22,"wordCount":675},"headData":{"title":"California Has a Multibillion-Dollar Budget Deficit. 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State revenues have continued to fall amid increasing inflation and a slowdown in the state’s usually robust technology industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday announced his plan to address the deficit in the state’s budget. The release of his plan kicks off a budget negotiation marathon with Democratic lawmakers, who hold supermajorities in both chambers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom and lawmakers have until June 15 to pass a budget, or lawmakers don’t get paid.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How big is the budget?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Newsom proposed a $288 billion spending plan on Friday for the fiscal year that starts July 1. That is well below the nearly \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-state-budget-2023-2db8442a1d7c0ecc5b6827207c1dad03\">$311 billion budget\u003c/a> he signed into law last year. But it is still by far the largest of any state in the country. New York recently passed a $237 billion budget, and Texas and Florida spend far less annually.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What about the deficit?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>It’s complicated. Newsom announced on Friday \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-budget-deficit-gov-gavin-newsom-8f502d57d00d551c0b6b6331367f7a25\">a $26.7 billion deficit\u003c/a>, but it’s really closer to $45 billion. That’s because Newsom didn’t include roughly \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-budget-deficit-7f550b21eb13034077bc97e447e30b66\">$17.3 billion worth of actions\u003c/a> he and lawmakers already agreed on. Those included a cut of $3.6 billion in primarily one-time funding to some school, welfare and climate programs. The plan also delays and defers about $5.2 billion in spending for various programs, including $1 billion to fund rail and public transit systems.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why does the deficit matter?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>California’s constitution requires lawmakers and the governor to balance the budget — meaning the state can’t spend more money than it has. That means they have to either find more money by raising taxes, which Newsom doesn’t want to do, or find ways to cut, shift or delay spending. Newsom’s proposal focuses mostly on cuts, but it will also dip into reserve funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What are those cuts?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Newsom proposed cuts across 260 state programs. Here are some of the highlights:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eliminating 10,000 vacant state worker jobs for a saving of $762 million. Newsom didn’t immediately provide a list of all the jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Clawing back $6.7 billion previously set aside to \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-medicaid-rates-gavin-newsom-optometrists-ca1d0fac1f662de24eca5289ff8885c1\">pay doctors more\u003c/a> to see poor patients and immigrants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shaving off nearly 8% in operating costs to almost all state agencies through actions like getting rid of landlines in state offices and evaluating printing needs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cutting $2 billion from broadband initiatives to pursue cheaper options\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Closing housing units with 4,600 beds across 13 state prisons to save $81 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reducing funding for homelessness and housing initiatives by nearly $1.2 billion, including $474 million from an anti-foreclosure program to preserve existing affordable housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reducing $500 million in water storage funding. He didn’t offer specifics on how that would be applied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shutting down an in-home service care program that serves 14,000 low-income, undocumented immigrants with disabilities for a savings of $94.7 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cutting roughly $2 billion from six education programs, including $550 million from an initiative to upgrade preschool and kindergarten facilities and $510 million in scholarships for middle class college students pursuing a teaching credential.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eliminating $352.5 million in funding for state and local public health and $189.4 million from mental health services fund.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How about tax increases?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Newsom has repeatedly said he could balance the budget without raising taxes. But his proposal calls for the suspension of the widely used net operating loss tax deduction for businesses the following fiscal year, which some are seeing as a tax increase.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He is also increasing the tax on managed care organizations, the private companies that contract with the state to provide Medicaid benefits.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985798/california-has-a-multibillion-dollar-budget-deficit-heres-what-you-need-to-know","authors":["byline_news_11985798"],"categories":["news_8","news_13"],"tags":["news_27946","news_402","news_2704","news_25015"],"featImg":"news_11985832","label":"news"},"news_11985739":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11985739","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11985739","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"san-franciscans-honor-glide-church-founder-rev-cecil-williams-at-memorial-ceremony","title":"San Franciscans Honor Glide Church Founder Rev. Cecil Williams at Memorial Ceremony","publishDate":1715564303,"format":"standard","headTitle":"San Franciscans Honor Glide Church Founder Rev. Cecil Williams at Memorial Ceremony | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"news"},"content":"\u003cp>Friends, elected officials and ordinary San Franciscans who benefited from his decades of ministering to the poor filled the sanctuary of Glide Memorial Church in the Tenderloin Sunday afternoon to celebrate the life of Reverend Cecil Williams, who died last month at the age of 94.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985895\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11985895\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/02_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-029_qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Several people stand clapping in a church.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/02_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-029_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/02_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-029_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/02_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-029_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/02_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-029_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/02_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-029_qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hundreds of people sing and dance to memorialize Reverend Cecil Williams at Glide Memorial Church in San Francisco on Sunday, May 12, 2024. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Classy Martin, a Glide member since childhood, recalled how Williams was like a foster father to her. “I met so many amazing people through Cecil,” she said, he helped show her she didn’t need to be on the streets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Marvin K. White, who is now Glide’s senior pastor recalls that under Williams leadership, Glide became a community anchor, “He was here all hours of the night. He would stand outside. He would greet people,” White said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams was known as a champion of racial equality, LGBTQ rights, and San Francisco’s most impoverished residents. His death April 22 brought an outpouring of tributes from a wide range of the city’s official family, including this statement from Vice President Kamala Harris.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Reverend Cecil Williams was a beacon of light and love,” said Harris, who worked with Williams when she was San Francisco District Attorney.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In all he did, Reverend Williams was guided by his faith. He fought for the rights and dignity of all people. Cecil offered every person who walked through his doors a warm smile, a hot meal, and unconditional love,” she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985896\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11985896\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A wide shot of several people standing in a church.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hundreds of people gather to memorialize Reverend Cecil Williams at Glide Memorial Church in San Francisco on Sunday, May 12, 2024. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Albert Cecil Williams was born in the West Texas town of San Angelo in 1929. The grandson of slaves, Williams told NPR’s Michele Martin in 2013 that his mother decided early on he would be a pastor when he grew up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So they called me ‘Rev’ when I was 2 years old and when I was 6 years old,” he said. “It was ‘Rev, Rev, Rev.’ So here I am. You know, here’s the reverend,” Williams said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After graduating with a degree in theology from Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Rev. Williams was recruited by the United Methodist Church in San Francisco — then a very small and dying house of worship whose members were all white.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After attending the 1963 March on Washington, D.C., where Martin Luther King Jr. gave his iconic “I Have a Dream” speech, Williams arrived in San Francisco. It was a more conservative time — the city had a Republican mayor, George Christopher — and the San Francisco police routinely arrested people at gay bars.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams quickly decided that to be relevant in the turbulent 1960’s, Glide needed a different approach, which he described in an interview with the local CBS television station in 1971.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I believe that we have to radicalize things to get things done very quickly. Also, I believe that Jesus Christ was a revolutionary and he was a radical,” Williams said. Emphasizing Glide’s embrace of second chances, he said “people tell me, this is the first time that we’ve come to church and felt good. Most churches people go to feel guilty. I don’t know why churches want to make people feel guilty. We work out our problems together, you see,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985899\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11985899\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A person in a suit plays a tambourine in a church.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Boxinett King plays the tambourine during a celebration of life for Reverend Cecil Williams at Glide Memorial Church in San Francisco on Sunday, May 12, 2024. Williams passed away last month at the age of 94, and was widely known as a champion of LGBTQ rights and racial equality. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Indeed, Williams opened the doors of Glide Church to anyone and everyone. Cleve Jones, who left Arizona as a teenager and landed on the streets of San Francisco in the 1970’s, remembers Williams’ ministry in the Tenderloin as a very welcoming place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Glide Church was one of the few places where young gay kids like myself could go get a meal, get some counseling, get some help. He was a real pioneer.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jones, who later became a leading advocate for LGBTQ causes, remembers Williams as a critical bridge between the Black clergy and the city’s growing queer-identified residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He had this ability to bring folks together in a way that reduced tension and also opened doors for funding and support for really critically needed services. He was a master at it,” Jones said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Randy Shaw, a longtime housing advocate in the Tenderloin, noted that Rev. Williams was never afraid to raise his voice on behalf of people who lacked powerful advocates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He was the fiery minister who was urging people to get involved in stuff and fighting for justice and not mincing words about things. He was very outspoken,” Shaw said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Glide’s membership grew, Williams expanded his ministry to include things like free meals, legal services and health and wellness clinics. And, Shaw notes, he raised millions of dollars to keep it afloat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Cecil was able to make financial connections to donors no one else in the Tenderloin, and maybe even in San Francisco, could make. He was the one who the big donors would give to,” he said.\u003cem> \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2012 Williams told KQED that Glide tapped into what people were looking for in their lives — authenticity and meaning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People want something that matters, and what really matters is a radical love. Taking risk — what we call ‘having courage,’” Williams said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Indeed, hundreds of people regularly lined up outside Glide for Sunday services. Inside, congregants of every race, gender and sexual orientation, socio-economic status and background locked arms in celebration — treated to a rollicking service that never disappointed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985898\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11985898\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A poster of Cecil Williams with handwritten messages.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A poster with messages to the late Reverend Cecil Williams is displayed outside Glide Memorial Church in San Francisco on Sunday, May 12, 2024. Williams passed away last month at the age of 94, and was widely known as a champion of LGBTQ rights and racial equality. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Over the years Glide has become a San Francisco institution. Its music ensemble performs at weddings, mayoral inaugurations and funerals — spreading its message of love, diversity, healing and second chances. He became a quintessential political insider, having the ears of mayors, city supervisors and members of Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>House Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi called Williams “a spiritual giant whose saintly good works have transformed countless lives in the Bay Area and beyond.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She added that “Reverend Williams was a clarion voice for love and justice: whether fighting against racism, protesting the Vietnam War, addressing poverty and addiction, and so much more.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rev. Williams officially stepped down as CEO of the Glide Foundation, but took up the title “Minister of Liberation.” He would still offer sermons from time to time, even when he was in a wheelchair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As his health began to fail him, Williams gradually stepped away from the job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was working here at Glide and I got a chance to see him up close and personal and see how he put his body on the line, how he lived liberation,” Pastor White said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>White knows he can never \u003cem>replace\u003c/em> Cecil Williams — but he says he learned a lot from him. “I have lost a brother, a mentor, a brilliant theologian, a great role model for what it means to be a Black prophetic preacher and minister.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Christopher Alam, Azul Dahlstrom-Eckman and Spencer Whitney contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Williams was known as a champion of racial equality, LGBTQ rights, and San Francisco's most impoverished residents.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1715564303,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":33,"wordCount":1329},"headData":{"title":"San Franciscans Honor Glide Church Founder Rev. 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White, who is now Glide’s senior pastor recalls that under Williams leadership, Glide became a community anchor, “He was here all hours of the night. He would stand outside. He would greet people,” White said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams was known as a champion of racial equality, LGBTQ rights, and San Francisco’s most impoverished residents. His death April 22 brought an outpouring of tributes from a wide range of the city’s official family, including this statement from Vice President Kamala Harris.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Reverend Cecil Williams was a beacon of light and love,” said Harris, who worked with Williams when she was San Francisco District Attorney.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In all he did, Reverend Williams was guided by his faith. He fought for the rights and dignity of all people. Cecil offered every person who walked through his doors a warm smile, a hot meal, and unconditional love,” she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985896\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11985896\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A wide shot of several people standing in a church.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/03_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-026_qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hundreds of people gather to memorialize Reverend Cecil Williams at Glide Memorial Church in San Francisco on Sunday, May 12, 2024. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Albert Cecil Williams was born in the West Texas town of San Angelo in 1929. The grandson of slaves, Williams told NPR’s Michele Martin in 2013 that his mother decided early on he would be a pastor when he grew up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So they called me ‘Rev’ when I was 2 years old and when I was 6 years old,” he said. “It was ‘Rev, Rev, Rev.’ So here I am. You know, here’s the reverend,” Williams said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After graduating with a degree in theology from Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Rev. Williams was recruited by the United Methodist Church in San Francisco — then a very small and dying house of worship whose members were all white.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After attending the 1963 March on Washington, D.C., where Martin Luther King Jr. gave his iconic “I Have a Dream” speech, Williams arrived in San Francisco. It was a more conservative time — the city had a Republican mayor, George Christopher — and the San Francisco police routinely arrested people at gay bars.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams quickly decided that to be relevant in the turbulent 1960’s, Glide needed a different approach, which he described in an interview with the local CBS television station in 1971.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I believe that we have to radicalize things to get things done very quickly. Also, I believe that Jesus Christ was a revolutionary and he was a radical,” Williams said. Emphasizing Glide’s embrace of second chances, he said “people tell me, this is the first time that we’ve come to church and felt good. Most churches people go to feel guilty. I don’t know why churches want to make people feel guilty. We work out our problems together, you see,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985899\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11985899\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A person in a suit plays a tambourine in a church.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/04_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-039_qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Boxinett King plays the tambourine during a celebration of life for Reverend Cecil Williams at Glide Memorial Church in San Francisco on Sunday, May 12, 2024. Williams passed away last month at the age of 94, and was widely known as a champion of LGBTQ rights and racial equality. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Indeed, Williams opened the doors of Glide Church to anyone and everyone. Cleve Jones, who left Arizona as a teenager and landed on the streets of San Francisco in the 1970’s, remembers Williams’ ministry in the Tenderloin as a very welcoming place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Glide Church was one of the few places where young gay kids like myself could go get a meal, get some counseling, get some help. He was a real pioneer.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jones, who later became a leading advocate for LGBTQ causes, remembers Williams as a critical bridge between the Black clergy and the city’s growing queer-identified residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He had this ability to bring folks together in a way that reduced tension and also opened doors for funding and support for really critically needed services. He was a master at it,” Jones said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Randy Shaw, a longtime housing advocate in the Tenderloin, noted that Rev. Williams was never afraid to raise his voice on behalf of people who lacked powerful advocates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He was the fiery minister who was urging people to get involved in stuff and fighting for justice and not mincing words about things. He was very outspoken,” Shaw said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Glide’s membership grew, Williams expanded his ministry to include things like free meals, legal services and health and wellness clinics. And, Shaw notes, he raised millions of dollars to keep it afloat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Cecil was able to make financial connections to donors no one else in the Tenderloin, and maybe even in San Francisco, could make. He was the one who the big donors would give to,” he said.\u003cem> \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2012 Williams told KQED that Glide tapped into what people were looking for in their lives — authenticity and meaning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People want something that matters, and what really matters is a radical love. Taking risk — what we call ‘having courage,’” Williams said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Indeed, hundreds of people regularly lined up outside Glide for Sunday services. Inside, congregants of every race, gender and sexual orientation, socio-economic status and background locked arms in celebration — treated to a rollicking service that never disappointed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11985898\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11985898\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A poster of Cecil Williams with handwritten messages.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/05_20240512-CecilWilliams-JY-046_qut.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A poster with messages to the late Reverend Cecil Williams is displayed outside Glide Memorial Church in San Francisco on Sunday, May 12, 2024. Williams passed away last month at the age of 94, and was widely known as a champion of LGBTQ rights and racial equality. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Over the years Glide has become a San Francisco institution. Its music ensemble performs at weddings, mayoral inaugurations and funerals — spreading its message of love, diversity, healing and second chances. He became a quintessential political insider, having the ears of mayors, city supervisors and members of Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>House Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi called Williams “a spiritual giant whose saintly good works have transformed countless lives in the Bay Area and beyond.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She added that “Reverend Williams was a clarion voice for love and justice: whether fighting against racism, protesting the Vietnam War, addressing poverty and addiction, and so much more.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rev. Williams officially stepped down as CEO of the Glide Foundation, but took up the title “Minister of Liberation.” He would still offer sermons from time to time, even when he was in a wheelchair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As his health began to fail him, Williams gradually stepped away from the job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was working here at Glide and I got a chance to see him up close and personal and see how he put his body on the line, how he lived liberation,” Pastor White said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>White knows he can never \u003cem>replace\u003c/em> Cecil Williams — but he says he learned a lot from him. “I have lost a brother, a mentor, a brilliant theologian, a great role model for what it means to be a Black prophetic preacher and minister.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Christopher Alam, Azul Dahlstrom-Eckman and Spencer Whitney contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11985739/san-franciscans-honor-glide-church-founder-rev-cecil-williams-at-memorial-ceremony","authors":["255"],"categories":["news_8"],"tags":["news_29728","news_27626","news_3121"],"featImg":"news_11985897","label":"news"},"news_11689504":{"type":"posts","id":"news_11689504","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"news","id":"11689504","found":true},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"uncovering-the-real-story-behind-the-mysterious-east-bay-walls","title":"Uncovering the Real Story Behind the 'East Bay Mystery Walls'","publishDate":1673546407,"format":"video","headTitle":"Uncovering the Real Story Behind the ‘East Bay Mystery Walls’ | KQED","labelTerm":{},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was first published on Aug 31, 2018. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]F[/dropcap]or more than a century, people in the Bay Area — and especially the East Bay — have puzzled over the existence of stone walls scattered on ridges from near San Jose north through the Berkeley Hills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sometimes the walls are built in long straight lines. Sometimes they form angles. Occasionally you’ll find rectangular or circular constructions.\u003cbr>\n[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003cbr>\nWho built these things? How long ago? And why?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maybe voyagers from a lost continent built them. Or visitors from outer space. Or a vanished tribe of “superior” Native Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People have suggested these walls could have been meant for defense. Or as navigational aids for extraterrestrials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We started getting “mystery walls” questions almost as soon as Bay Curious opened for business, including one from Eric Haven. He’s an artist — he writes and draws graphic novels — and he’s been a producer on “MythBusters” as well as the reboot, “Mythbusters Jr.” So he’s someone who wants to get to the bottom of things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His query was pretty straightforward: “Who built the East Bay mystery walls? They appear to be ancient, many hundreds or even thousands of years old.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eric came to the Bay Area in 1989. As we hiked up a steep, rocky trail in the Berkeley Hills to visit a wall segment there, he told me that’s when he first heard about a nearby “mystery wall.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And the way it was relayed to me was very much like urban myth or urban legend,” he said. “There are certain signifiers of that conversation — you know, the vagueness of it — and yet certain things are very specific. ‘No one knows who built it. No one knows why they built it.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11689988\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11689988\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-800x519.jpg\" alt=\"Segments of stone walls, like these on Monument Peak, in Ed Levin County Park near Milpitas, can be found throughout the hills of the East Bay.\" width=\"800\" height=\"519\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-800x519.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-160x104.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-1020x661.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-1200x778.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-1180x765.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-960x623.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-240x156.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-375x243.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-520x337.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Segments of stone walls, like these on Monument Peak, in Ed Levin County Park near Milpitas, can be found throughout the hills of the East Bay. \u003ccite>(Dan Brekke/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]T[/dropcap]hat “no one knows” refrain is a constant in the story of the walls from the beginning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to say precisely when locals might have started gossiping about the walls — or if they ever did — but the oldest published mention of the “mystery” appears to be \u003ca href=\"https://flic.kr/p/2aywx85\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">March 8, 1896,\u003c/a> in the Sunday San Francisco Chronicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Half a mile east of Grizzly Peak stand the remnants of stone walls which have long baffled the researches and curiosity of antiquarians,” the unbylined story said. “By whom they were erected, when and why is an unsolved mystery.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The same little essay goes on to drop a theory or two: that perhaps the walls were the work of what it called “a long forgotten race,” or maybe the Aztecs of Mexico, who might have used the walls for defense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For structures that have excited such feverish speculation for so long, most of them look pretty modest. The section Eric Haven and I tramped up to is actually kind of nondescript: about 100 feet long and just 2 or 3 feet high. The rocks used for construction — local limestone — are stacked or piled, not mortared or cut to fit. Most of the stones are small enough that one person could place them easily; some would have required a crew to put in place. Most are covered with lichens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As we soaked in the atmosphere of the place — a spot with a sweeping view, but one we promised the property owners we wouldn’t disclose — Eric shared a friend’s idea about the origins of the walls. It’s a variation on the notion that Native Americans built these walls for a mystical purpose.\u003cbr>\n[baycuriousbug]\u003cbr>\n“His theory was that there was an earthquake here, and it opened up fissures in the ground,” Eric said. “And he thought these were purely ceremonial. They were here to appease whatever gods they thought were angered, or spirits, and this was a way to mark those fissures and to show those spirits they’d do whatever it takes so the earthquake doesn’t happen again.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before we headed back down the trail from the wall, we observed that the wall runs parallel to a modern barbed-wire fence that pretty clearly marks a property boundary. So this wall, perhaps, was built as part of a property line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11690201\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11690201 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-800x504.jpg\" alt=\"A portion of walls with the Diablo Range in the background.\" width=\"800\" height=\"504\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-800x504.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-160x101.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-1020x642.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-1200x756.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-1180x743.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-960x605.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-240x151.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-375x236.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-520x327.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A portion of walls with the Diablo Range in the background. \u003ccite>(Dan Brekke/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]L[/dropcap]ooking for an answer meant going through old newspaper stories, tracking down amateur sleuths’ accounts of the walls, searching old maps for evidence of the structures and finding out whether real live archaeologists had ever studied the walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There have been many newspaper pieces over the years, starting with the Chronicle’s in 1896. Most have repeated the original article’s conclusion that the walls are an impenetrable enigma.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For instance, in August 1904, the Chronicle ran another story on the walls, this time, as a big spread in the Sunday paper. It featured a dramatic illustration of stereotype savage fighting with spear and bow and arrow and hurling big rocks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was written by a guy named Harold French — a hiker, writer and clerk at \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11667314/this-s-f-fortress-is-full-of-money-that-will-never-be-spent\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">San Francisco’s U.S. Mint\u003c/a>. The prose sounds a lot like that in the 1896 piece.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Did a colony from lost Atlantis once populate the Berkeley hills?” the story asked. “Are the ancient rock walls which crown the Contra Costa ridges remnants of a Toltec or a pre-Toltec civilization? Are these remarkable walls really relics of the Stone Age?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few weeks later, the Chronicle was back with another dramatic Sunday spread, announcing an amazing find unearthed by a University of California chemistry professor named Henry Coffinberry Myers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The headline declared that “stone age relics discovered in the Berkeley Hills … seem to change the accepted history of the Western world.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The objects Myers said he’d uncovered during forays into the hills included a “five-faced stone image,” stone axes and pieces of pottery. Myers said that mineral deposits on the carved stone image proved it was 1,000 to 10,000 years old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Myers and other experts the Chronicle contacted said the artifacts and the walls in the hills were evidence that early hill dwellers — perhaps giants who had gained immense strength by lifting big rocks — had migrated from China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Myers’ find was almost certainly a hoax. The Chronicle doesn’t appear to have said another word about the professor and his world-shattering discoveries. Myers left Berkeley shortly afterward to manage a sugar refinery in Hawaii. He eventually donated his artifacts — telling \u003ca href=\"http://kaga.wsulibs.wsu.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=%2Fclipping&CISOPTR=10799&DMSCALE=100.00000&DMWIDTH=600&DMHEIGHT=600&DMMODE=viewer&DMFULL=0&DMOLDSCALE=16.35769&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=&DMTHUMB=1&REC=1&DMROTATE=0&x=42&y=146\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a different story\u003c/a> about where they’d come from — to a \u003ca href=\"http://spokanehistorical.org/items/show/536\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bible college\u003c/a> in Spokane, Washington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 1908, the Berkeley Hills walls were back in the news. “Professor” Joseph Voyle, president of the Berkeley Society for Psychical Research, identified some of the walls as \u003ca href=\"http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19080622.2.60.11\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">remains of a prehistoric civilization\u003c/a>. He was led to the site by a kind of divining rod, and newspapers delighted in telling the tale of Voyle leading a group on an expedition into the wilds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Voyle also claimed to have discovered a radium mine beneath San Francisco and reported he had invented an earthquake detector and figured out how to make non-intoxicating alcohol. He died an indigent in Alameda County’s public hospital in 1915, having succumbed to what one paper called “an infirmity of which he had long been a sufferer.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11690204\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11690204\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"The stone walls wind through the landscape on Monument Peak.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-520x390.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The stone walls wind through the landscape on Monument Peak. \u003ccite>(Dan Brekke/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]W[/dropcap]hile Myers and Voyle departed the scene, Harold French showed up again and again in print over the years promoting the legend of the walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I say “legend” advisedly. In published writings through the early 1920s, French never failed to describe the walls as “prehistoric” or “ancient.” But beyond the walls’ mere presence, the only evidence he ever cited was the testimony of unnamed old-timers who, he said, had told him that the walls had been a puzzle to both Native Americans and early settlers alike.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not clear if trained archaeologists ever seriously studied the walls at the time French was writing. At one point, French reported he had spoken to a “certain teacher of anthropology” at the University of California about the walls’ origins. The anthropologist reportedly responded:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“From time to time my students have come and told me about these walls … but I never took them seriously enough to climb way up there in that ‘Beanstalk Land’ to see them. I suppose they are either old sheep corrals or ranch boundaries.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11689477\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/Screen-Shot-2018-08-29-at-4.16.31-PM.png\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11689477\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/Screen-Shot-2018-08-29-at-4.16.31-PM-1020x1172.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"735\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An Oakland Tribune feature article on the East Bay Walls by writer and hiker Harold French.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Eventually, though, amateur researchers started trying to decipher the walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One was Seth Simpson, who spent years documenting the presence of the walls and puzzling over their origins. His conclusion, \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4807539/East-Bay-Walls-Simpson-Pursuit.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">summarized\u003c/a> in a 1972 number of Pursuit, the Journal of the Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained, is classic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simpson said there was a possibility some of the walls had been erected by local tribes to trap and kill game. But for the rest, he said, “All I can suggest is that they were built by unknown persons, in an unknown year, for an unknown purpose … and very possibly they will remain a puzzle for the indefinite future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]O[/dropcap]ther wall fanatics were exploring the hills, too. Robert Fisher, a physician from Fremont, and a friend from Berkeley, Russell Swanson, took a lively interest in the walls, especially those in the hills near the south end of the bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fisher and Swanson were inclined to see massive rock formations on the ridges and highlands as the work of unknown ancients they called “the Earliers.” The meaning of the walls, massive standing stones and outcroppings, was baffling. Fisher suggested some of the stone work could have served as navigational aids for extraterrestrials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At least one real live archaeologist joined Fisher to tour one area of the hills — Monument Peak, above Milpitas in Santa Clara County’s Ed Levin Park. It’s a dramatic site, with wonderful stretches of walls snaking along ridges about 2,000 feet above the bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an answer to an email query relayed through the Society for California Archaeology, Breck Parkman, a now-retired state parks archeologist, said that in the late 1980s a friend prevailed upon him to visit Monument Peak with Fisher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fisher “wanted me to come and authenticate what he was finding,” Parkman said in an email. “… I said, show me the best you have. He did.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parkman said the area featured “lots and lots of stone walls” he believed dated to sometime in the 1800s. Most were built, he felt, in the later years of the century, perhaps by Chinese workers, perhaps by Basque sheep herders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he found a handful of structures — possible hunting blinds and prayer circles — he thought could have been Native American in origin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was these features that convinced me that among the many late 19th century rock features in the East Bay Hills, we might find a few older features of importance,” Parkman wrote. “It would be worth checking out, but I don’t know who’d be interested in taking a systematic look at this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One reason that professionals may have stayed away from the walls, Parkman added, is “not wanting to be associated with the fringe element” responsible for the many wild wall hypotheses over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11690202\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11690202\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"A portion of the stone walls found throughout the Berkeley Hills.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A portion of the stone walls found throughout the Berkeley Hills. \u003ccite>(Adam Grossberg/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]A[/dropcap]nother archaeologist, Jeff Fentress, went up into the Berkeley Hills with me to look at the same section of wall I visited with our question asker, Eric Haven.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fentress, now retired from his position as a professor of archaeology at San Francisco State University, was raised nearby and said he’d been hearing stories about the walls since his boyhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I was growing up in Berkeley here, we were told the Lemurians built the walls, and the Lemurians were the inhabitants of the lost continent of Mu,” Fentress said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.crystalinks.com/lemuria.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mu\u003c/a> is said to have existed out in the Pacific Ocean somewhere. And Fentress said stories like that are still coming up. The History Channel asked him whether a Chinese admiral might have erected the rock walls, and British TV interviewed him about whether the West African adventurers might have put up the walls during a visit 30,000 years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fentress said the problem with all of those theories — Lemurians, Chinese, West Africans and extraterrestrials — is that there’s simply no evidence any of those real or imagined groups ever landed here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So I think you have to look at the walls in the context of who was actually here in the Bay Area,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11690203\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11690203\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-800x446.jpg\" alt=\"Archaeologist Jeff Fentress says it would take a lot of time and money to definitively determine when the stone walls were built and by whom.\" width=\"800\" height=\"446\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-800x446.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-160x89.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-1020x569.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-1200x669.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-1180x658.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-960x536.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-240x134.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-375x209.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-520x290.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Archaeologist Jeff Fentress says it would take a lot of time and money to definitively determine when the stone walls were built and by whom. \u003ccite>(Adam Grossberg/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Native American tribes have populated the Bay Area for about 10,000 years, according to the latest estimates. They were here long before the arrival of Spanish and Mexican colonists and the Gold Rush-era invasion of Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Fentress said “there is no indication that Native American people built rock walls that extended for hundreds or thousands of feet. There are no accounts of them building massive wall structures or corrals or any of the other sort of rock features we see in the East Bay here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fentress and other archaeologists who have studied and recorded the walls agree that there is an explanation, though.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rock walls were the work of us — the people who pushed the native tribes off the land.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fentress said some wall building may have begun in the Mission period, and walls like the ones in the hills followed. Some were likely built to mark property lines. Many others were put up as part of ranching and farming operations, such as those that were known to have existed both in the Berkeley Hills and the Monument Peak area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also points to the many European immigrant groups known to have ranched and farmed in the hills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Did these people make rock walls in their countries?” Fentress asks. “Look at them all — Portugal, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Switzerland and so on. \u003cem>Of course\u003c/em> they made rock walls.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11689494\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11689494\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/Screen-Shot-2018-08-29-at-10.05.19-PM-800x487.png\" alt=\"Fentress says the most likely answer is that European immigrants built the walls as functional parts of their lives that didn't rise to the level of recording their purpose.\" width=\"800\" height=\"487\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fentress says the most likely answer is that European immigrants built the walls as functional parts of their lives that didn’t rise to the level of recording their purpose. \u003ccite>(Dan Brekke/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Fentress and others also point out there was no shortage of labor — provided either willingly or unwillingly. Chinese crews, paid as little as a penny a linear foot, were hired to build ranch walls in Mariposa and Tehama counties, for instance. And many Native Americans, displaced from their lands and denied basic civil rights, were forced into indentured servitude to provide labor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Fentress concedes his explanations for the walls are speculative and said you’d want to search for more evidence to back up what he and other researchers have observed and been told in the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The main thing to do would be to systematically record and map all the walls,” he said. Once the walls were mapped, researchers could compare their locations to older maps showing historic property lines and other features.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also said it could be useful to dig along the base of walls to study their construction and to look for artifacts. It would also help to study the rocks used in the structures to confirm what most people assume — that they come from the same area as the walls themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dating techniques could be useful, too. \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4807533/Proceedings-of-the-Society-for-California.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">One experimental study\u003c/a> that used the growth of lichens as a dating technique estimated that the surviving wall segment in the Berkeley Hills may have been built between 1850 and 1880.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fentress said you’d want to do a more systematic study — a hundred lichen sites, say — to really come to a firm conclusion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Historical records — written accounts — could be important, too. But those are in short supply.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And really the reason is that, you know, we’re looking at — you could call it the archaeology of the common people, the archeology of the working class,” he said. “Back in 1850, if Mr. McGillicuddy cleared his fields and he built a wall between his property and Mr. Sousa next door, no one’s going to write a newspaper article about that. It’s not going to get in the history books. So all we have is the remains of these people showing their hard work and their ingenuity.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11690200\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11690200\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Downtown San Jose rises in the distance behind a small collection of stones seen from Monument Peak.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Downtown San Jose rises in the distance behind a small collection of stones seen from Monument Peak. \u003ccite>(Dan Brekke/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]S[/dropcap]o, at the end of all this, there is still some mystery left in the walls and more work to be done to come to definitive answers. Eric Haven, who prompted our own investigation, said he’s OK with that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People love a mystery,” he said. “And since this is an unsolved mystery, it’s naturally evocative and compelling. I still think about it — a lot. And part of me somewhat hopes that we never find the answers, so that the Berkeley walls can always be a mystery.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Extraordinary structures of the ancient past? Or completely mundane piles of rock?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1700531888,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":true,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":70,"wordCount":3050},"headData":{"title":"Uncovering the Real Story Behind the 'East Bay Mystery Walls' | KQED","description":"Extraordinary structures of the ancient past? 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He was chosen for a spring 2017 residency at the Mesa Refuge to advance his research on California salmon.\r\n\r\nEmail Dan at: \u003ca href=\"mailto:dbrekke@kqed.org\">dbrekke@kqed.org\u003c/a>\r\n\r\n\u003cstrong>Twitter:\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/danbrekke\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">twitter.com/danbrekke\u003c/a>\r\n\u003cstrong>Facebook:\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/danbrekke\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">www.facebook.com/danbrekke\u003c/a>\r\n\u003cstrong>LinkedIn:\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/danbrekke\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">www.linkedin.com/in/danbrekke\u003c/a>","avatar":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c8126230345efca3f7aa89b1a402be45?s=600&d=mm&r=g","twitter":"danbrekke","facebook":null,"instagram":"https://www.instagram.com/dan.brekke/","linkedin":"https://www.linkedin.com/in/danbrekke/","sites":[{"site":"news","roles":["administrator","create_posts"]},{"site":"stateofhealth","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"science","roles":["editor"]},{"site":"quest","roles":["contributor"]},{"site":"food","roles":["contributor"]},{"site":"forum","roles":["contributor"]},{"site":"liveblog","roles":["editor"]}],"headData":{"title":"Dan Brekke | KQED","description":"KQED Editor and Reporter","ogImgSrc":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c8126230345efca3f7aa89b1a402be45?s=600&d=mm&r=g","twImgSrc":"https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c8126230345efca3f7aa89b1a402be45?s=600&d=mm&r=g"},"isLoading":false,"link":"/author/danbrekke"}],"imageData":{"ogImageSize":{"file":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-1020x661.jpg","width":1020,"height":661,"mimeType":"image/jpeg"},"ogImageWidth":"1020","ogImageHeight":"661","twitterImageUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-1020x661.jpg","twImageSize":{"file":"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-1020x661.jpg","width":1020,"height":661,"mimeType":"image/jpeg"},"twitterCard":"summary_large_image"},"tagData":{"tags":["Bay Curious","Dan Brekke","spooky"]}},"videoEmbed":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMISe8MKVC4&feature=youtu.be","source":"Bay Curious","sourceUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/news/series/baycurious","audioTrackLength":627,"excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/news/11689504/uncovering-the-real-story-behind-the-mysterious-east-bay-walls","audioUrl":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/new-bay-curious/2018/08/EastBayWalls.mp3","audioDuration":630000,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was first published on Aug 31, 2018. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">F\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>or more than a century, people in the Bay Area — and especially the East Bay — have puzzled over the existence of stone walls scattered on ridges from near San Jose north through the Berkeley Hills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sometimes the walls are built in long straight lines. Sometimes they form angles. Occasionally you’ll find rectangular or circular constructions.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cbr>\nWho built these things? How long ago? And why?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Maybe voyagers from a lost continent built them. Or visitors from outer space. Or a vanished tribe of “superior” Native Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People have suggested these walls could have been meant for defense. Or as navigational aids for extraterrestrials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We started getting “mystery walls” questions almost as soon as Bay Curious opened for business, including one from Eric Haven. He’s an artist — he writes and draws graphic novels — and he’s been a producer on “MythBusters” as well as the reboot, “Mythbusters Jr.” So he’s someone who wants to get to the bottom of things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His query was pretty straightforward: “Who built the East Bay mystery walls? They appear to be ancient, many hundreds or even thousands of years old.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eric came to the Bay Area in 1989. As we hiked up a steep, rocky trail in the Berkeley Hills to visit a wall segment there, he told me that’s when he first heard about a nearby “mystery wall.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And the way it was relayed to me was very much like urban myth or urban legend,” he said. “There are certain signifiers of that conversation — you know, the vagueness of it — and yet certain things are very specific. ‘No one knows who built it. No one knows why they built it.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11689988\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11689988\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-800x519.jpg\" alt=\"Segments of stone walls, like these on Monument Peak, in Ed Levin County Park near Milpitas, can be found throughout the hills of the East Bay.\" width=\"800\" height=\"519\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-800x519.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-160x104.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-1020x661.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-1200x778.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-1180x765.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-960x623.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-240x156.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-375x243.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32665_19025042463_9119852fb9_o-qut-520x337.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Segments of stone walls, like these on Monument Peak, in Ed Levin County Park near Milpitas, can be found throughout the hills of the East Bay. \u003ccite>(Dan Brekke/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">T\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>hat “no one knows” refrain is a constant in the story of the walls from the beginning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to say precisely when locals might have started gossiping about the walls — or if they ever did — but the oldest published mention of the “mystery” appears to be \u003ca href=\"https://flic.kr/p/2aywx85\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">March 8, 1896,\u003c/a> in the Sunday San Francisco Chronicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Half a mile east of Grizzly Peak stand the remnants of stone walls which have long baffled the researches and curiosity of antiquarians,” the unbylined story said. “By whom they were erected, when and why is an unsolved mystery.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The same little essay goes on to drop a theory or two: that perhaps the walls were the work of what it called “a long forgotten race,” or maybe the Aztecs of Mexico, who might have used the walls for defense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For structures that have excited such feverish speculation for so long, most of them look pretty modest. The section Eric Haven and I tramped up to is actually kind of nondescript: about 100 feet long and just 2 or 3 feet high. The rocks used for construction — local limestone — are stacked or piled, not mortared or cut to fit. Most of the stones are small enough that one person could place them easily; some would have required a crew to put in place. Most are covered with lichens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As we soaked in the atmosphere of the place — a spot with a sweeping view, but one we promised the property owners we wouldn’t disclose — Eric shared a friend’s idea about the origins of the walls. It’s a variation on the notion that Native Americans built these walls for a mystical purpose.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n What do you wonder about the Bay Area, its culture or people that you want KQED to investigate?\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Ask Bay Curious.\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cbr>\n“His theory was that there was an earthquake here, and it opened up fissures in the ground,” Eric said. “And he thought these were purely ceremonial. They were here to appease whatever gods they thought were angered, or spirits, and this was a way to mark those fissures and to show those spirits they’d do whatever it takes so the earthquake doesn’t happen again.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before we headed back down the trail from the wall, we observed that the wall runs parallel to a modern barbed-wire fence that pretty clearly marks a property boundary. So this wall, perhaps, was built as part of a property line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11690201\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11690201 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-800x504.jpg\" alt=\"A portion of walls with the Diablo Range in the background.\" width=\"800\" height=\"504\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-800x504.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-160x101.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-1020x642.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-1200x756.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-1180x743.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-960x605.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-240x151.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-375x236.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32679_19023508794_fb75164909_o-qut-1-520x327.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A portion of walls with the Diablo Range in the background. \u003ccite>(Dan Brekke/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">L\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>ooking for an answer meant going through old newspaper stories, tracking down amateur sleuths’ accounts of the walls, searching old maps for evidence of the structures and finding out whether real live archaeologists had ever studied the walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There have been many newspaper pieces over the years, starting with the Chronicle’s in 1896. Most have repeated the original article’s conclusion that the walls are an impenetrable enigma.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For instance, in August 1904, the Chronicle ran another story on the walls, this time, as a big spread in the Sunday paper. It featured a dramatic illustration of stereotype savage fighting with spear and bow and arrow and hurling big rocks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was written by a guy named Harold French — a hiker, writer and clerk at \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11667314/this-s-f-fortress-is-full-of-money-that-will-never-be-spent\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">San Francisco’s U.S. Mint\u003c/a>. The prose sounds a lot like that in the 1896 piece.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Did a colony from lost Atlantis once populate the Berkeley hills?” the story asked. “Are the ancient rock walls which crown the Contra Costa ridges remnants of a Toltec or a pre-Toltec civilization? Are these remarkable walls really relics of the Stone Age?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few weeks later, the Chronicle was back with another dramatic Sunday spread, announcing an amazing find unearthed by a University of California chemistry professor named Henry Coffinberry Myers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The headline declared that “stone age relics discovered in the Berkeley Hills … seem to change the accepted history of the Western world.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The objects Myers said he’d uncovered during forays into the hills included a “five-faced stone image,” stone axes and pieces of pottery. Myers said that mineral deposits on the carved stone image proved it was 1,000 to 10,000 years old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Myers and other experts the Chronicle contacted said the artifacts and the walls in the hills were evidence that early hill dwellers — perhaps giants who had gained immense strength by lifting big rocks — had migrated from China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Myers’ find was almost certainly a hoax. The Chronicle doesn’t appear to have said another word about the professor and his world-shattering discoveries. Myers left Berkeley shortly afterward to manage a sugar refinery in Hawaii. He eventually donated his artifacts — telling \u003ca href=\"http://kaga.wsulibs.wsu.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=%2Fclipping&CISOPTR=10799&DMSCALE=100.00000&DMWIDTH=600&DMHEIGHT=600&DMMODE=viewer&DMFULL=0&DMOLDSCALE=16.35769&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=&DMTHUMB=1&REC=1&DMROTATE=0&x=42&y=146\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a different story\u003c/a> about where they’d come from — to a \u003ca href=\"http://spokanehistorical.org/items/show/536\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bible college\u003c/a> in Spokane, Washington.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 1908, the Berkeley Hills walls were back in the news. “Professor” Joseph Voyle, president of the Berkeley Society for Psychical Research, identified some of the walls as \u003ca href=\"http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19080622.2.60.11\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">remains of a prehistoric civilization\u003c/a>. He was led to the site by a kind of divining rod, and newspapers delighted in telling the tale of Voyle leading a group on an expedition into the wilds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Voyle also claimed to have discovered a radium mine beneath San Francisco and reported he had invented an earthquake detector and figured out how to make non-intoxicating alcohol. He died an indigent in Alameda County’s public hospital in 1915, having succumbed to what one paper called “an infirmity of which he had long been a sufferer.”)\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11690204\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11690204\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"The stone walls wind through the landscape on Monument Peak.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32677_19597532225_92ce855207_o-qut-520x390.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The stone walls wind through the landscape on Monument Peak. \u003ccite>(Dan Brekke/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">W\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>hile Myers and Voyle departed the scene, Harold French showed up again and again in print over the years promoting the legend of the walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I say “legend” advisedly. In published writings through the early 1920s, French never failed to describe the walls as “prehistoric” or “ancient.” But beyond the walls’ mere presence, the only evidence he ever cited was the testimony of unnamed old-timers who, he said, had told him that the walls had been a puzzle to both Native Americans and early settlers alike.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not clear if trained archaeologists ever seriously studied the walls at the time French was writing. At one point, French reported he had spoken to a “certain teacher of anthropology” at the University of California about the walls’ origins. The anthropologist reportedly responded:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“From time to time my students have come and told me about these walls … but I never took them seriously enough to climb way up there in that ‘Beanstalk Land’ to see them. I suppose they are either old sheep corrals or ranch boundaries.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11689477\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/Screen-Shot-2018-08-29-at-4.16.31-PM.png\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11689477\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/Screen-Shot-2018-08-29-at-4.16.31-PM-1020x1172.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"735\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An Oakland Tribune feature article on the East Bay Walls by writer and hiker Harold French.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Eventually, though, amateur researchers started trying to decipher the walls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One was Seth Simpson, who spent years documenting the presence of the walls and puzzling over their origins. His conclusion, \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4807539/East-Bay-Walls-Simpson-Pursuit.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">summarized\u003c/a> in a 1972 number of Pursuit, the Journal of the Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained, is classic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Simpson said there was a possibility some of the walls had been erected by local tribes to trap and kill game. But for the rest, he said, “All I can suggest is that they were built by unknown persons, in an unknown year, for an unknown purpose … and very possibly they will remain a puzzle for the indefinite future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">O\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>ther wall fanatics were exploring the hills, too. Robert Fisher, a physician from Fremont, and a friend from Berkeley, Russell Swanson, took a lively interest in the walls, especially those in the hills near the south end of the bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fisher and Swanson were inclined to see massive rock formations on the ridges and highlands as the work of unknown ancients they called “the Earliers.” The meaning of the walls, massive standing stones and outcroppings, was baffling. Fisher suggested some of the stone work could have served as navigational aids for extraterrestrials.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At least one real live archaeologist joined Fisher to tour one area of the hills — Monument Peak, above Milpitas in Santa Clara County’s Ed Levin Park. It’s a dramatic site, with wonderful stretches of walls snaking along ridges about 2,000 feet above the bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an answer to an email query relayed through the Society for California Archaeology, Breck Parkman, a now-retired state parks archeologist, said that in the late 1980s a friend prevailed upon him to visit Monument Peak with Fisher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fisher “wanted me to come and authenticate what he was finding,” Parkman said in an email. “… I said, show me the best you have. He did.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parkman said the area featured “lots and lots of stone walls” he believed dated to sometime in the 1800s. Most were built, he felt, in the later years of the century, perhaps by Chinese workers, perhaps by Basque sheep herders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he found a handful of structures — possible hunting blinds and prayer circles — he thought could have been Native American in origin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was these features that convinced me that among the many late 19th century rock features in the East Bay Hills, we might find a few older features of importance,” Parkman wrote. “It would be worth checking out, but I don’t know who’d be interested in taking a systematic look at this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One reason that professionals may have stayed away from the walls, Parkman added, is “not wanting to be associated with the fringe element” responsible for the many wild wall hypotheses over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11690202\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11690202\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"A portion of the stone walls found throughout the Berkeley Hills.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32680_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.40.56-PM-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A portion of the stone walls found throughout the Berkeley Hills. \u003ccite>(Adam Grossberg/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">A\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>nother archaeologist, Jeff Fentress, went up into the Berkeley Hills with me to look at the same section of wall I visited with our question asker, Eric Haven.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fentress, now retired from his position as a professor of archaeology at San Francisco State University, was raised nearby and said he’d been hearing stories about the walls since his boyhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I was growing up in Berkeley here, we were told the Lemurians built the walls, and the Lemurians were the inhabitants of the lost continent of Mu,” Fentress said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.crystalinks.com/lemuria.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mu\u003c/a> is said to have existed out in the Pacific Ocean somewhere. And Fentress said stories like that are still coming up. The History Channel asked him whether a Chinese admiral might have erected the rock walls, and British TV interviewed him about whether the West African adventurers might have put up the walls during a visit 30,000 years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fentress said the problem with all of those theories — Lemurians, Chinese, West Africans and extraterrestrials — is that there’s simply no evidence any of those real or imagined groups ever landed here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So I think you have to look at the walls in the context of who was actually here in the Bay Area,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11690203\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11690203\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-800x446.jpg\" alt=\"Archaeologist Jeff Fentress says it would take a lot of time and money to definitively determine when the stone walls were built and by whom.\" width=\"800\" height=\"446\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-800x446.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-160x89.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-1020x569.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-1200x669.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-1180x658.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-960x536.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-240x134.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-375x209.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32682_Screen-Shot-2018-09-02-at-12.41.59-PM-qut-520x290.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Archaeologist Jeff Fentress says it would take a lot of time and money to definitively determine when the stone walls were built and by whom. \u003ccite>(Adam Grossberg/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Native American tribes have populated the Bay Area for about 10,000 years, according to the latest estimates. They were here long before the arrival of Spanish and Mexican colonists and the Gold Rush-era invasion of Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Fentress said “there is no indication that Native American people built rock walls that extended for hundreds or thousands of feet. There are no accounts of them building massive wall structures or corrals or any of the other sort of rock features we see in the East Bay here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fentress and other archaeologists who have studied and recorded the walls agree that there is an explanation, though.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rock walls were the work of us — the people who pushed the native tribes off the land.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fentress said some wall building may have begun in the Mission period, and walls like the ones in the hills followed. Some were likely built to mark property lines. Many others were put up as part of ranching and farming operations, such as those that were known to have existed both in the Berkeley Hills and the Monument Peak area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also points to the many European immigrant groups known to have ranched and farmed in the hills.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Did these people make rock walls in their countries?” Fentress asks. “Look at them all — Portugal, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Switzerland and so on. \u003cem>Of course\u003c/em> they made rock walls.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11689494\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11689494\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/Screen-Shot-2018-08-29-at-10.05.19-PM-800x487.png\" alt=\"Fentress says the most likely answer is that European immigrants built the walls as functional parts of their lives that didn't rise to the level of recording their purpose.\" width=\"800\" height=\"487\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fentress says the most likely answer is that European immigrants built the walls as functional parts of their lives that didn’t rise to the level of recording their purpose. \u003ccite>(Dan Brekke/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Fentress and others also point out there was no shortage of labor — provided either willingly or unwillingly. Chinese crews, paid as little as a penny a linear foot, were hired to build ranch walls in Mariposa and Tehama counties, for instance. And many Native Americans, displaced from their lands and denied basic civil rights, were forced into indentured servitude to provide labor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Fentress concedes his explanations for the walls are speculative and said you’d want to search for more evidence to back up what he and other researchers have observed and been told in the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The main thing to do would be to systematically record and map all the walls,” he said. Once the walls were mapped, researchers could compare their locations to older maps showing historic property lines and other features.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also said it could be useful to dig along the base of walls to study their construction and to look for artifacts. It would also help to study the rocks used in the structures to confirm what most people assume — that they come from the same area as the walls themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dating techniques could be useful, too. \u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4807533/Proceedings-of-the-Society-for-California.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">One experimental study\u003c/a> that used the growth of lichens as a dating technique estimated that the surviving wall segment in the Berkeley Hills may have been built between 1850 and 1880.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fentress said you’d want to do a more systematic study — a hundred lichen sites, say — to really come to a firm conclusion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Historical records — written accounts — could be important, too. But those are in short supply.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And really the reason is that, you know, we’re looking at — you could call it the archaeology of the common people, the archeology of the working class,” he said. “Back in 1850, if Mr. McGillicuddy cleared his fields and he built a wall between his property and Mr. Sousa next door, no one’s going to write a newspaper article about that. It’s not going to get in the history books. So all we have is the remains of these people showing their hard work and their ingenuity.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11690200\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11690200\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Downtown San Jose rises in the distance behind a small collection of stones seen from Monument Peak.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/08/RS32678_19457917600_a0745537be_o-qut-1-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Downtown San Jose rises in the distance behind a small collection of stones seen from Monument Peak. \u003ccite>(Dan Brekke/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">S\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>o, at the end of all this, there is still some mystery left in the walls and more work to be done to come to definitive answers. Eric Haven, who prompted our own investigation, said he’s OK with that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People love a mystery,” he said. “And since this is an unsolved mystery, it’s naturally evocative and compelling. I still think about it — a lot. And part of me somewhat hopes that we never find the answers, so that the Berkeley walls can always be a mystery.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"baycuriousquestion","attributes":{"named":{"label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/news/11689504/uncovering-the-real-story-behind-the-mysterious-east-bay-walls","authors":["222"],"programs":["news_33523"],"series":["news_17986"],"categories":["news_8","news_33520"],"tags":["news_18426","news_24620","news_32749"],"featImg":"news_11689988","label":"source_news_11689504","isLoading":false,"hasAllInfo":true}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. 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