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"content": "\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"http://www.cmanet.org/\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>California Medical Association\u003c/u>\u003c/a>, which represents about 41,000 doctors, has been at the heart of health care deliberations in Sacramento for decades. This year, it has staked out strong and sometimes surprising positions on the legalization of marijuana, Medi-Cal provider rates and the role it believes nurse practitioners should play in patient care.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">One in three Californians is now on Medi-Cal. That is the public option. It needs to be funded. Right now, they’re funding it through discounts to physicians.\u003ccite>Steven Larson, California Medical Association president \u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://californiahealthline.org/\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>California Healthline\u003c/u>\u003c/a> discussed these positions with current CMA president, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cmanet.org/about/cma-governance/cma-executive-committee/steven-larson-md/\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>Steven Larson\u003c/u>\u003c/a>, a primary care and infectious disease physician who practices in Riverside. Larson is also CEO of Riverside Medical Clinic, a multispecialty medical group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among Larson’s points is that his organization — which has long battled the state over low Medi-Cal reimbursement rates for doctors — is now taking its fight to the people. Medi-Cal is the state’s Medicaid program for low-income residents. It provides coverage to more than 13 million people, and the rates California pays to participating physicians are among the lowest in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Larson said the CMA is looking to the state’s initiative process for relief. Proposition 56, a proposed cigarette tax, and Proposition 55, an extension of the Proposition 30 income tax increases that voters approved in 2012, \u003ca href=\"http://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2016-news-releases-and-advisories/proposition-numbers-november-ballot-measures/\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>are both on the November ballot\u003c/u>\u003c/a>. If they pass, they’re expected to provide some money for Medi-Cal services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have to do it on our own because the state government is not very sympathetic,” Larson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: With roughly 80 percent of Medi-Cal enrollees now in managed care and that number rising, shouldn’t your argument that payments to doctors are too low be addressed to private insurance companies instead of the stat\u003c/strong>e?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The managed care reimbursement to Medi-Cal providers is much lower than commercial rates. Just being in managed care doesn’t mean the rates are competitive with commercial rates. Not only are they not competitive, they are not sustainable for most practices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now these patients are disadvantaged. If you have cancer in Medi-Cal, you do no better than if you have no insurance at all. That was \u003ca href=\"http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-cancer-disparities-20151119-story.html\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>in the Los Angeles Times recently\u003c/u>\u003c/a>. I think that’s true. They have no access.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.bayareaeconomy.org/files/pdf/MainstreamingMedi-Cal.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>California is 47th out of 50 states\u003c/u>\u003c/a> in Medicaid payments to physicians. That includes managed care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What we’re doing now is hoping to create revenue through taxation that’s directed to Medi-Cal rates. The cigarette tax initiative and perhaps some of the Proposition 30 extension monies might go toward propping up Medi-Cal rates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: You’re saying that the CMA is using the ballot process to try to increase payments to doctors because its efforts through the Legislature have failed?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Absolutely. We have decided we have to do it on our own because the state government is not very sympathetic. We’ve gone to them many times and it doesn’t seem to matter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The idea is that the citizens of California with Medi-Cal have no access because of low reimbursement rates to doctors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One in three Californians is now on Medi-Cal. That is the public option. It needs to be funded. Right now, they’re funding it through discounts to physicians. And now they have added undocumented children to full Medi-Cal coverage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: If these ballot initiatives pass and there’s more funding for Medi-Cal, how should it be distributed?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We hope the money flows through the system, both in managed care and fee-for-service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You have to understand the managed care plans pay primary care physicians a capitated, per member, per month rate. They pay specialists the Medi-Cal fee-for-service rates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An office visit for Medi-Cal is about $16. That’s for a primary care visit and a follow-up visit for a specialist. That’s what I pay for a haircut. There’s something wrong about that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: You mentioned that immigrant children without papers can now get full Medi-Cal. Should adult immigrants who are here without proper documentation also get it?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We don’t have an official CMA policy on that. We do have a policy that states that all people who reside in the state should have insurance coverage. I certainly think we should expand Medi-Cal to all individuals that can’t afford health insurance through other means. That’s my personal belief, not the CMA position.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: The CMA says it \u003ca href=\"http://www.cmanet.org/news/press-detail/?article=ca-medical-association-announces-support-for\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>does not “encourage the use of marijuana and discourages smoking\u003c/u>\u003c/a>.” Yet it supports an initiative on the November ballot to \u003ca href=\"https://ballotpedia.org/California_Marijuana_Legalization_Initiative,_Proposition_64_(2016)\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>legalize marijuana\u003c/u>\u003c/a>. Why?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It sounds like a high-wire act. In reality, we suspect that marijuana may have some beneficial medical effects and it’s difficult to research those in the current climate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We also know that marijuana is harmful to developing brains. We want to avoid it getting into the hands of adolescents. Our understanding is that it’s easier for high school kids to get marijuana than tobacco or alcohol. It shouldn’t be… If we could regulate marijuana, then we would hope it would be less available to adolescents. The black market will dry up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: Isn’t there a risk that making it legal will create an industry with marketing clout similar to tobacco or unhealthy foods, thus increasing consumption?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We’re very concerned about that. We oppose smoking marijuana or ingesting marijuana for nonmedicinal reasons. But we’re not so naïve to think it’s not going to happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, medicinal marijuana is terribly abused and misused and puts physicians in the middle. I’m a practicing physician and some patients inappropriately want a diagnosis to obtain marijuana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The harm reduction in adolescents outweighs the risk. Some adults who smoke it already will continue to smoke it. I don’t think a lot of adults will go out and start smoking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: A proposed law to allow nurse practitioners more independence in treating patients \u003ca href=\"http://californiahealthline.org/news/california-nurse-practitioners-lose-battle-for-independent-practice-again/\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>failed in the Legislature again this year\u003c/u>\u003c/a>. You opposed it. Why not allow it, particularly in the Medi-Cal population, thus making care more available?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of our practices, including my own, have nurse practitioners. We do not feel they should practice independently. If we allow them to practice medicine, they should have the same standards that physicians have. They should be licensed by the Medical Board. They should have the same liability and educational requirements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yes, nurse practitioners could help us treat diabetes, hypertension, obesity and many common diseases. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"http://www.cmanet.org/\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>California Medical Association\u003c/u>\u003c/a>, which represents about 41,000 doctors, has been at the heart of health care deliberations in Sacramento for decades. This year, it has staked out strong and sometimes surprising positions on the legalization of marijuana, Medi-Cal provider rates and the role it believes nurse practitioners should play in patient care.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">One in three Californians is now on Medi-Cal. That is the public option. It needs to be funded. Right now, they’re funding it through discounts to physicians.\u003ccite>Steven Larson, California Medical Association president \u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://californiahealthline.org/\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>California Healthline\u003c/u>\u003c/a> discussed these positions with current CMA president, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cmanet.org/about/cma-governance/cma-executive-committee/steven-larson-md/\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>Steven Larson\u003c/u>\u003c/a>, a primary care and infectious disease physician who practices in Riverside. Larson is also CEO of Riverside Medical Clinic, a multispecialty medical group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among Larson’s points is that his organization — which has long battled the state over low Medi-Cal reimbursement rates for doctors — is now taking its fight to the people. Medi-Cal is the state’s Medicaid program for low-income residents. It provides coverage to more than 13 million people, and the rates California pays to participating physicians are among the lowest in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Larson said the CMA is looking to the state’s initiative process for relief. Proposition 56, a proposed cigarette tax, and Proposition 55, an extension of the Proposition 30 income tax increases that voters approved in 2012, \u003ca href=\"http://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2016-news-releases-and-advisories/proposition-numbers-november-ballot-measures/\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>are both on the November ballot\u003c/u>\u003c/a>. If they pass, they’re expected to provide some money for Medi-Cal services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have to do it on our own because the state government is not very sympathetic,” Larson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: With roughly 80 percent of Medi-Cal enrollees now in managed care and that number rising, shouldn’t your argument that payments to doctors are too low be addressed to private insurance companies instead of the stat\u003c/strong>e?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The managed care reimbursement to Medi-Cal providers is much lower than commercial rates. Just being in managed care doesn’t mean the rates are competitive with commercial rates. Not only are they not competitive, they are not sustainable for most practices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now these patients are disadvantaged. If you have cancer in Medi-Cal, you do no better than if you have no insurance at all. That was \u003ca href=\"http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-cancer-disparities-20151119-story.html\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>in the Los Angeles Times recently\u003c/u>\u003c/a>. I think that’s true. They have no access.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.bayareaeconomy.org/files/pdf/MainstreamingMedi-Cal.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>California is 47th out of 50 states\u003c/u>\u003c/a> in Medicaid payments to physicians. That includes managed care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What we’re doing now is hoping to create revenue through taxation that’s directed to Medi-Cal rates. The cigarette tax initiative and perhaps some of the Proposition 30 extension monies might go toward propping up Medi-Cal rates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: You’re saying that the CMA is using the ballot process to try to increase payments to doctors because its efforts through the Legislature have failed?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Absolutely. We have decided we have to do it on our own because the state government is not very sympathetic. We’ve gone to them many times and it doesn’t seem to matter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The idea is that the citizens of California with Medi-Cal have no access because of low reimbursement rates to doctors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One in three Californians is now on Medi-Cal. That is the public option. It needs to be funded. Right now, they’re funding it through discounts to physicians. And now they have added undocumented children to full Medi-Cal coverage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: If these ballot initiatives pass and there’s more funding for Medi-Cal, how should it be distributed?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We hope the money flows through the system, both in managed care and fee-for-service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You have to understand the managed care plans pay primary care physicians a capitated, per member, per month rate. They pay specialists the Medi-Cal fee-for-service rates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An office visit for Medi-Cal is about $16. That’s for a primary care visit and a follow-up visit for a specialist. That’s what I pay for a haircut. There’s something wrong about that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: You mentioned that immigrant children without papers can now get full Medi-Cal. Should adult immigrants who are here without proper documentation also get it?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We don’t have an official CMA policy on that. We do have a policy that states that all people who reside in the state should have insurance coverage. I certainly think we should expand Medi-Cal to all individuals that can’t afford health insurance through other means. That’s my personal belief, not the CMA position.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: The CMA says it \u003ca href=\"http://www.cmanet.org/news/press-detail/?article=ca-medical-association-announces-support-for\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>does not “encourage the use of marijuana and discourages smoking\u003c/u>\u003c/a>.” Yet it supports an initiative on the November ballot to \u003ca href=\"https://ballotpedia.org/California_Marijuana_Legalization_Initiative,_Proposition_64_(2016)\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>legalize marijuana\u003c/u>\u003c/a>. Why?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It sounds like a high-wire act. In reality, we suspect that marijuana may have some beneficial medical effects and it’s difficult to research those in the current climate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We also know that marijuana is harmful to developing brains. We want to avoid it getting into the hands of adolescents. Our understanding is that it’s easier for high school kids to get marijuana than tobacco or alcohol. It shouldn’t be… If we could regulate marijuana, then we would hope it would be less available to adolescents. The black market will dry up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: Isn’t there a risk that making it legal will create an industry with marketing clout similar to tobacco or unhealthy foods, thus increasing consumption?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We’re very concerned about that. We oppose smoking marijuana or ingesting marijuana for nonmedicinal reasons. But we’re not so naïve to think it’s not going to happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, medicinal marijuana is terribly abused and misused and puts physicians in the middle. I’m a practicing physician and some patients inappropriately want a diagnosis to obtain marijuana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The harm reduction in adolescents outweighs the risk. Some adults who smoke it already will continue to smoke it. I don’t think a lot of adults will go out and start smoking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Q: A proposed law to allow nurse practitioners more independence in treating patients \u003ca href=\"http://californiahealthline.org/news/california-nurse-practitioners-lose-battle-for-independent-practice-again/\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cu>failed in the Legislature again this year\u003c/u>\u003c/a>. You opposed it. Why not allow it, particularly in the Medi-Cal population, thus making care more available?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of our practices, including my own, have nurse practitioners. We do not feel they should practice independently. If we allow them to practice medicine, they should have the same standards that physicians have. They should be licensed by the Medical Board. They should have the same liability and educational requirements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yes, nurse practitioners could help us treat diabetes, hypertension, obesity and many common diseases. 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