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We know we need early childhood educators,” he said. “We don’t know how many artists we need, but I can guarantee that if you eliminate access, we will impoverish our cultural life nationally.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How the new standard will work\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The new earnings test comes courtesy of last year’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which included a \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2026/06/10/nx-s1-5835633/student-loans-guide-education-changes-repayment-plan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">slew of big higher education policy changes\u003c/a> meant to address rising concerns over the cost and value of college.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Higher education experts across the political spectrum told NPR the test sets a pretty reasonable expectation: In many states, federal data shows, graduates of bachelor programs will have to earn a minimum of about $30,000 to $41,000 a year for their program to pass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-embed npr-promo-card insettwocolumn\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\u003c/div>\n\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“This is really a very low floor,” said Christopher Madaio, a senior adviser at the nonprofit The Institute for College Access & Success. “I mean, high school earnings is not an exceedingly high metric for a program to meet.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Programs fail the test when they don’t meet the earnings requirement for two out of three consecutive years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The current test does not take student loan debt into account, which means there’s no way to distinguish between a graduate who is struggling with low pay while being debt-free and a graduate who is struggling with low pay while also paying off tens of thousands of dollars in loans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Education Department says \u003ca href=\"https://www.ed.gov/media/document/fact-sheet-trump-administration-implements-accountability-provisions-of-working-families-tax-cuts-act-june-29-2026-114288.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">it will begin calculating\u003c/a> the first year of graduate earnings in early 2027, and “some programs could be designated as low-earning outcome programs beginning in the 2028-2029 [financial aid] award year.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The kinds of programs that are likely to fail\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>According to Education Department estimates, the vast majority of undergraduate and graduate programs should easily pass the new earnings test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But more than 800,000 students attend a program that would likely fail the measure, according to department data. Roughly half of those students are enrolled in for-profit schools, which already \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/11/17/1135615520/student-loan-forgiveness-borrower-defense\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">have a reputation\u003c/a> for shortchanging students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other takeaways from the department’s data:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul class=\"rte2-style-ul\" style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; padding-inline-start: 48px;\">\n\u003cli>About 18% of undergraduate certificate programs, which often bill themselves as career-focused fast tracks, would fail the earnings test. Specifically, certificate programs in cosmetology and somatic body work have the highest predicted failure rates.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Two-year associate degree programs have the next highest failure rate, at 6%. Associate programs that train specialized educators, including early childhood educators, are the most likely to fail.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cul class=\"rte2-style-ul\" style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; padding-inline-start: 48px;\">\n\u003cli>Most traditional, four-year bachelor programs fare well, with roughly 1% failing the earnings test. When these programs do fail, it’s often in areas like theater, music and studio art.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>About 4% of master’s degree programs would fail, with the highest failure rates for programs teaching mental and social health services.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>For one music teacher, it was “never about the money”\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Some of the United States’ most prestigious music programs — known for training the country’s most talented young musicians — are among the 14% of bachelor music programs predicted to fail the new earnings test, according to Education Department data. That includes The Juilliard School in New York City, the New England Conservatory in Boston and Indiana University Bloomington’s Jacobs School of Music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The undergraduate music program that Cindy Flores attended at Portland State University (PSU) also wouldn’t pass. Flores teaches mariachi music to middle and high school students at Salem-Keizer Public Schools in Oregon’s Willamette Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/3000x2000+0+0/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F12%2Fe5%2Fafb6393b409fab7cdf3421daa40e%2F20260310-ezi-mariachi-teacher-10.jpg\" alt=\"Cindy Flores smiles as she teaches mariachi to students at McKay High School in Salem, Oregon. 'If it wasn't for PSU and the loans I could get … I wouldn't be a Mexican American mariachi teacher for my Mexican American students,' she said.\">\u003cfigcaption>Cindy Flores smiles as she teaches mariachi to students at McKay High School in Salem, Oregon. “If it wasn’t for PSU and the loans I could get … I wouldn’t be a Mexican American mariachi teacher for my Mexican American students,” she said. \u003ccite> (Eli Imadali | OPB)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Her path to becoming a full-time music teacher started with studying music education at PSU; then she got an educators license from Western Oregon University — and she used federal student loans to help pay for all of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She now holds close to $55,000 in federal student loan debt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Flores said she wouldn’t be where she is now without that access to federal aid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If it wasn’t for PSU and the loans I could get … I wouldn’t be a Mexican American mariachi teacher for my Mexican American students,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But given the new federal test, future PSU music students might not have the same access to federal student loans that Flores did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said she feels lucky to have found a job that she’s passionate about and that pays a living wage. But, for her, a career in music was about much more than a paycheck.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is never about the money,” she said. “I realized I wanted to have a career in music when I was in the eighth grade, because every music teacher I had were such good role models in my life and I wanted to be part of that community.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Defining success in the arts\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>SNAAP’s Lee Ann Scotto Adams said the federal government’s one-size-fits-all accountability approach doesn’t make sense for students graduating from creative arts programs because wages aren’t the only measure of success for studio artists, musicians and designers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Yes, you need to earn money to make a living, but we see our creative workers want the ability to have independence in their work. They want jobs that are socially conscious. They want to make an impact culturally,” Scotto Adams said. “These are all metrics that fall outside of just straightforward earnings metrics.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She also takes issue with looking at earnings in the first few years after graduation. Scotto Adams points to \u003ca href=\"https://snaaparts.org/findings/databriefs/measuring-early-career-earnings-for-arts-design-graduates-evidence-from-snaap-alumni-data-on-income-volatility-advanced-degree-pursuit-and-long-term-career-trajectories\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">SNAAP survey data\u003c/a> that shows arts graduates often have unpredictable incomes at the beginning of their careers, but their pay tends to stabilize and increase over time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Looking at earnings as the sole metric of success is very limited, and that’s because artists have nonlinear careers,” Scotto Adams said. “For the most part, people who graduate from these programs move into careers that they’re personally satisfied with.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Students considering any of the at-risk programs won’t immediately lose access to federal aid. While the accountability test is being rolled out this month, its implementation will be phased in over the next couple of years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"npr-transcript\">\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Transcript:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>JUANA SUMMERS, HOST:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The U.S. Department of Education is rolling out a new federal test, one that most colleges and universities will eventually have to pass. The test is known as Do No Harm, and it’s pretty simple. If a program’s graduates don’t earn more than someone who never went to college, that program and its students could lose access to federal student loans. To better explain how this will all work and the impact it might have, I’m joined by NPR education correspondent Cory Turner. Hi there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CORY TURNER, BYLINE: Hey, Juana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: So, Cory, losing access to federal student loans sounds like a really big deal. So tell us how exactly this Do No Harm test is going to work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: Yeah. So this new test, it comes courtesy of Republicans’ One Big Beautiful Bill Act from last year. And, I mean, really, as you said in the intro, it’s pretty straightforward. For undergraduate programs, their students four years after they graduate are going to need to earn more than working high school grads who did not go to college. And it’s a pretty similar test for graduate schools, right? So a program’s graduates need to earn more on average than those who finished college but did not go on to grad school. If a program dips below this earnings threshold for 2 years out of 3, then students will no longer be able to take out federal loans to attend that program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier this week, the Under Secretary of Education, Nicholas Kent, said of this change, quote, “if a program can’t show that it leaves its graduates financially better off than if they had never enrolled, it should not be underwritten by federal taxpayers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I have also heard, though, Juana, from lots of folks – really a bipartisan collection of folks across higher ed – who say, look, this is a pretty reasonable expectation. Here’s Chris Madaio with the nonprofit Institute for College Access & Success.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CHRIS MADAIO: I mean, this is really a very low floor, right? I mean, high school earnings is not a exceedingly high metric for a program to meet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: And, Cory, what can you tell us about the types of programs that might not be able to pass this new test?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: Well, fortunately, earlier this year, the U.S. Department of Education released a trove of data that give us a pretty good idea of where the hammer’s going to be dropping. Broadly speaking, the data show that more than 800,000 students attend a program that would likely fail this Do No Harm test. We also know roughly half of them attend private for-profit schools, which already have a reputation for shortchanging students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: One more really big red flag in the department’s data – undergraduate certificate programs. You know, the kind that bill themselves as a – like a short term, fast track into a specific career. Well, a quarter of all of those students in those programs are in one that would likely fail. And the program with the highest predicted failure rate is an undergrad certificate in cosmetology, with more than 90% of all of those programs leaving their students worse off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: Oh, interesting. I’m really curious, though, about more traditional bachelor’s and master’s programs. How might they fare?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: Really well. According to the department’s data, only about 1% of bachelor’s degree programs would fail the test. And it’s a bit higher for master’s degrees, about 4%, but still not bad. There are, though, some interesting patterns in the kinds of programs that fail more often. At the master’s level, we’re talking about mental and social health services. And then at the four-year bachelor’s degree level, it’s programs focused on theater, fine arts, music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: I mean, I could imagine that some people might stop studying subjects like the ones you just mentioned because of this rule as well as a lack of access to student loans, which, I mean, that kind of calls into question what higher education’s supposed to be all about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: Totally. I – this is what I find so fascinating about this whole idea, Juana. Like, do these numbers mean that these programs are bad? In some cases, yes. But in some cases, I think it also means that the U.S. economy just doesn’t value the arts. So we’re actually going to poke at this for a few more minutes with a colleague of mine. Her name is Tiffany Camhi. She’s an education reporter with Oregon Public Broadcasting, and she has the story of a young teacher who graduated from a music program that would likely fail the government’s new earnings test. Let’s take a listen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CINDY FLORES: Oh, one, two, three. One…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TIFFANY CAMHI, BYLINE: Cindy Flores loves teaching mariachi music to middle and high school students in Oregon’s Salem-Keizer School District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: Their part goes like this…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: …Two, three, beat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: Two, three.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: To get this dream job, she first had to study music at Portland State University and then get a teaching license. She took out federal student loans to pay for it all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: I don’t know. I feel like there’s good side to it, really bad side to it. The good side is I was able to complete my degree. Like, that was the whole reason why I wanted to go to college was so I can get a music degree.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: The bad side was that by the time she got her license, she was $55,000 in debt. Still, she says it was worth it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: You know, it’s – if it wasn’t for PSU and the loans I could get, I wouldn’t a Mexican-American mariachi teacher for my Mexican-American students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: But future music students at PSU might not have the same access to federal financial aid. That’s because the school’s undergraduate music students often don’t earn as much as high school grads. Education department data shows the university’s program would likely fail the new federal earnings test. But do students really go to music school to make money?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>LEE ANN SCOTTO ADAMS: And earnings is only a small piece of that puzzle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: Lee Ann Scotto Adams heads the Strategic National Arts Alumni Project. The nonprofit studies what happens to arts graduates. And Adams has a problem with this new federal earnings test. She says it’s a one-size-fits-all measure of student success.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SCOTTO ADAMS: Yes, you need to make money and earn money to make a living to survive, but we see our creative workers, they want to make an impact culturally. They want to make an impact on their community. And these are all metrics that fall outside of just straightforward earnings metrics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: Adams also takes issue with measuring earnings four years after graduation. She points to survey data that shows arts graduates often have unpredictable incomes at first, but their pay tends to stabilize and increase over time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: Back in Oregon, Cindy Flores feels lucky to have full-time work teaching music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: You get it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>UNIDENTIFIED STUDENT: I get it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: It’s easy. We’re going to play it this time…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: That’s in spite of all her student loan debt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: It is never about the money. I realized I wanted to have a career in music when I was in the eighth grade because every music teacher I’ve had in the past was such good role models in my life, and I want to be part of that community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: And to be that kind of role model for her own students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For NPR News, I’m Tiffany Camhi in Salem, Oregon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: Oh, one, two, three. 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We know we need early childhood educators,” he said. “We don’t know how many artists we need, but I can guarantee that if you eliminate access, we will impoverish our cultural life nationally.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How the new standard will work\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The new earnings test comes courtesy of last year’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which included a \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2026/06/10/nx-s1-5835633/student-loans-guide-education-changes-repayment-plan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">slew of big higher education policy changes\u003c/a> meant to address rising concerns over the cost and value of college.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Higher education experts across the political spectrum told NPR the test sets a pretty reasonable expectation: In many states, federal data shows, graduates of bachelor programs will have to earn a minimum of about $30,000 to $41,000 a year for their program to pass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-embed npr-promo-card insettwocolumn\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\u003c/div>\n\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“This is really a very low floor,” said Christopher Madaio, a senior adviser at the nonprofit The Institute for College Access & Success. “I mean, high school earnings is not an exceedingly high metric for a program to meet.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Programs fail the test when they don’t meet the earnings requirement for two out of three consecutive years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The current test does not take student loan debt into account, which means there’s no way to distinguish between a graduate who is struggling with low pay while being debt-free and a graduate who is struggling with low pay while also paying off tens of thousands of dollars in loans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Education Department says \u003ca href=\"https://www.ed.gov/media/document/fact-sheet-trump-administration-implements-accountability-provisions-of-working-families-tax-cuts-act-june-29-2026-114288.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">it will begin calculating\u003c/a> the first year of graduate earnings in early 2027, and “some programs could be designated as low-earning outcome programs beginning in the 2028-2029 [financial aid] award year.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The kinds of programs that are likely to fail\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>According to Education Department estimates, the vast majority of undergraduate and graduate programs should easily pass the new earnings test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But more than 800,000 students attend a program that would likely fail the measure, according to department data. Roughly half of those students are enrolled in for-profit schools, which already \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2022/11/17/1135615520/student-loan-forgiveness-borrower-defense\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">have a reputation\u003c/a> for shortchanging students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other takeaways from the department’s data:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul class=\"rte2-style-ul\" style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; padding-inline-start: 48px;\">\n\u003cli>About 18% of undergraduate certificate programs, which often bill themselves as career-focused fast tracks, would fail the earnings test. Specifically, certificate programs in cosmetology and somatic body work have the highest predicted failure rates.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Two-year associate degree programs have the next highest failure rate, at 6%. Associate programs that train specialized educators, including early childhood educators, are the most likely to fail.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cul class=\"rte2-style-ul\" style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; padding-inline-start: 48px;\">\n\u003cli>Most traditional, four-year bachelor programs fare well, with roughly 1% failing the earnings test. When these programs do fail, it’s often in areas like theater, music and studio art.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>About 4% of master’s degree programs would fail, with the highest failure rates for programs teaching mental and social health services.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>For one music teacher, it was “never about the money”\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Some of the United States’ most prestigious music programs — known for training the country’s most talented young musicians — are among the 14% of bachelor music programs predicted to fail the new earnings test, according to Education Department data. That includes The Juilliard School in New York City, the New England Conservatory in Boston and Indiana University Bloomington’s Jacobs School of Music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The undergraduate music program that Cindy Flores attended at Portland State University (PSU) also wouldn’t pass. Flores teaches mariachi music to middle and high school students at Salem-Keizer Public Schools in Oregon’s Willamette Valley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/3000x2000+0+0/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F12%2Fe5%2Fafb6393b409fab7cdf3421daa40e%2F20260310-ezi-mariachi-teacher-10.jpg\" alt=\"Cindy Flores smiles as she teaches mariachi to students at McKay High School in Salem, Oregon. 'If it wasn't for PSU and the loans I could get … I wouldn't be a Mexican American mariachi teacher for my Mexican American students,' she said.\">\u003cfigcaption>Cindy Flores smiles as she teaches mariachi to students at McKay High School in Salem, Oregon. “If it wasn’t for PSU and the loans I could get … I wouldn’t be a Mexican American mariachi teacher for my Mexican American students,” she said. \u003ccite> (Eli Imadali | OPB)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Her path to becoming a full-time music teacher started with studying music education at PSU; then she got an educators license from Western Oregon University — and she used federal student loans to help pay for all of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She now holds close to $55,000 in federal student loan debt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Flores said she wouldn’t be where she is now without that access to federal aid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If it wasn’t for PSU and the loans I could get … I wouldn’t be a Mexican American mariachi teacher for my Mexican American students,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But given the new federal test, future PSU music students might not have the same access to federal student loans that Flores did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said she feels lucky to have found a job that she’s passionate about and that pays a living wage. But, for her, a career in music was about much more than a paycheck.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is never about the money,” she said. “I realized I wanted to have a career in music when I was in the eighth grade, because every music teacher I had were such good role models in my life and I wanted to be part of that community.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Defining success in the arts\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>SNAAP’s Lee Ann Scotto Adams said the federal government’s one-size-fits-all accountability approach doesn’t make sense for students graduating from creative arts programs because wages aren’t the only measure of success for studio artists, musicians and designers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Yes, you need to earn money to make a living, but we see our creative workers want the ability to have independence in their work. They want jobs that are socially conscious. They want to make an impact culturally,” Scotto Adams said. “These are all metrics that fall outside of just straightforward earnings metrics.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She also takes issue with looking at earnings in the first few years after graduation. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Students considering any of the at-risk programs won’t immediately lose access to federal aid. While the accountability test is being rolled out this month, its implementation will be phased in over the next couple of years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"npr-transcript\">\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Transcript:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>JUANA SUMMERS, HOST:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The U.S. Department of Education is rolling out a new federal test, one that most colleges and universities will eventually have to pass. The test is known as Do No Harm, and it’s pretty simple. If a program’s graduates don’t earn more than someone who never went to college, that program and its students could lose access to federal student loans. To better explain how this will all work and the impact it might have, I’m joined by NPR education correspondent Cory Turner. Hi there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CORY TURNER, BYLINE: Hey, Juana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: So, Cory, losing access to federal student loans sounds like a really big deal. So tell us how exactly this Do No Harm test is going to work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: Yeah. So this new test, it comes courtesy of Republicans’ One Big Beautiful Bill Act from last year. And, I mean, really, as you said in the intro, it’s pretty straightforward. For undergraduate programs, their students four years after they graduate are going to need to earn more than working high school grads who did not go to college. And it’s a pretty similar test for graduate schools, right? So a program’s graduates need to earn more on average than those who finished college but did not go on to grad school. If a program dips below this earnings threshold for 2 years out of 3, then students will no longer be able to take out federal loans to attend that program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Earlier this week, the Under Secretary of Education, Nicholas Kent, said of this change, quote, “if a program can’t show that it leaves its graduates financially better off than if they had never enrolled, it should not be underwritten by federal taxpayers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I have also heard, though, Juana, from lots of folks – really a bipartisan collection of folks across higher ed – who say, look, this is a pretty reasonable expectation. Here’s Chris Madaio with the nonprofit Institute for College Access & Success.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CHRIS MADAIO: I mean, this is really a very low floor, right? I mean, high school earnings is not a exceedingly high metric for a program to meet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: And, Cory, what can you tell us about the types of programs that might not be able to pass this new test?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: Well, fortunately, earlier this year, the U.S. Department of Education released a trove of data that give us a pretty good idea of where the hammer’s going to be dropping. Broadly speaking, the data show that more than 800,000 students attend a program that would likely fail this Do No Harm test. We also know roughly half of them attend private for-profit schools, which already have a reputation for shortchanging students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: One more really big red flag in the department’s data – undergraduate certificate programs. You know, the kind that bill themselves as a – like a short term, fast track into a specific career. Well, a quarter of all of those students in those programs are in one that would likely fail. And the program with the highest predicted failure rate is an undergrad certificate in cosmetology, with more than 90% of all of those programs leaving their students worse off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: Oh, interesting. I’m really curious, though, about more traditional bachelor’s and master’s programs. How might they fare?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: Really well. According to the department’s data, only about 1% of bachelor’s degree programs would fail the test. And it’s a bit higher for master’s degrees, about 4%, but still not bad. There are, though, some interesting patterns in the kinds of programs that fail more often. At the master’s level, we’re talking about mental and social health services. And then at the four-year bachelor’s degree level, it’s programs focused on theater, fine arts, music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: I mean, I could imagine that some people might stop studying subjects like the ones you just mentioned because of this rule as well as a lack of access to student loans, which, I mean, that kind of calls into question what higher education’s supposed to be all about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: Totally. I – this is what I find so fascinating about this whole idea, Juana. Like, do these numbers mean that these programs are bad? In some cases, yes. But in some cases, I think it also means that the U.S. economy just doesn’t value the arts. So we’re actually going to poke at this for a few more minutes with a colleague of mine. Her name is Tiffany Camhi. She’s an education reporter with Oregon Public Broadcasting, and she has the story of a young teacher who graduated from a music program that would likely fail the government’s new earnings test. Let’s take a listen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CINDY FLORES: Oh, one, two, three. One…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TIFFANY CAMHI, BYLINE: Cindy Flores loves teaching mariachi music to middle and high school students in Oregon’s Salem-Keizer School District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: Their part goes like this…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: …Two, three, beat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: Two, three.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: To get this dream job, she first had to study music at Portland State University and then get a teaching license. She took out federal student loans to pay for it all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: I don’t know. I feel like there’s good side to it, really bad side to it. The good side is I was able to complete my degree. Like, that was the whole reason why I wanted to go to college was so I can get a music degree.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: The bad side was that by the time she got her license, she was $55,000 in debt. Still, she says it was worth it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: You know, it’s – if it wasn’t for PSU and the loans I could get, I wouldn’t a Mexican-American mariachi teacher for my Mexican-American students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: But future music students at PSU might not have the same access to federal financial aid. That’s because the school’s undergraduate music students often don’t earn as much as high school grads. Education department data shows the university’s program would likely fail the new federal earnings test. But do students really go to music school to make money?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>LEE ANN SCOTTO ADAMS: And earnings is only a small piece of that puzzle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: Lee Ann Scotto Adams heads the Strategic National Arts Alumni Project. The nonprofit studies what happens to arts graduates. And Adams has a problem with this new federal earnings test. She says it’s a one-size-fits-all measure of student success.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SCOTTO ADAMS: Yes, you need to make money and earn money to make a living to survive, but we see our creative workers, they want to make an impact culturally. They want to make an impact on their community. And these are all metrics that fall outside of just straightforward earnings metrics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: Adams also takes issue with measuring earnings four years after graduation. She points to survey data that shows arts graduates often have unpredictable incomes at first, but their pay tends to stabilize and increase over time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: Back in Oregon, Cindy Flores feels lucky to have full-time work teaching music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: You get it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>UNIDENTIFIED STUDENT: I get it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: It’s easy. We’re going to play it this time…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: That’s in spite of all her student loan debt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: It is never about the money. I realized I wanted to have a career in music when I was in the eighth grade because every music teacher I’ve had in the past was such good role models in my life, and I want to be part of that community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CAMHI: And to be that kind of role model for her own students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For NPR News, I’m Tiffany Camhi in Salem, Oregon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLORES: Oh, one, two, three. One…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: And NPR’s Cory Turner is still with me here in the studio. And, Cory, as we just heard in that reporting, there’s not a simple formula to calculate a career’s worth. And as you pointed out earlier, this Do No Harm provision, it’s not a particularly high bar, but it doesn’t take into account what we heard from Cindy Flores, that she’s wanted to do this since she was in eighth grade, that she’s passionate about teaching kids music. Is there anything else that you think this new rule misses?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: Yeah. I think there’s one big wildcard that’s not in the formula, and that is student loan debt. There was a lot of debate about whether debt should be included in this new test. They decided against it. 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"content": "\u003cp>In the fall of 1918, Edward Kidder Graham, the president of the University of North Carolina, tried to reassure anxious parents. The Spanish flu was spreading rapidly, but Graham insisted the university was doing all it could to keep students safe. Weeks later, Graham himself contracted the virus and died. His successor, Marvin Hendrix Stacy, promptly succumbed to the epidemic two months later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many universities endured similar chaos during the Spanish flu, as I learned from reading a chapter in a forthcoming book on higher education, “\u003ca href=\"https://www.press.jhu.edu/books/title/53895/upheaval-action\">From Upheaval to Action: What Works in Changing Higher Ed\u003c/a>,” by sociologist and Brandeis University President Arthur Levine and University of Pennsylvania administrator Scott Van Pelt. (\u003cem>Disclosure: Levine was the president of Teachers College, Columbia University from 1994 to 2006, during which he launched The Hechinger Institute, the precursor to The Hechinger Report.\u003c/em>)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But what really struck me was how many colleges’ experiences resembled those of the Covid-19 era.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the 1918 pandemic, Harvard canceled lectures with more than 50 students. Yale shut down its campus after partial measures failed to contain the spread. Many urban colleges closed temporarily. Orientations, commencements and large public gatherings were canceled or postponed. At Iowa State University, gymnasiums were converted into makeshift hospitals as cases surged. At the University of Michigan, dormitories transformed into quarantine facilities after infirmaries overflowed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then came a second wave — deadlier than the first.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"mceTemp\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_66098\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 780px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-66098\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2026/02/Signatures-2.jpg\" alt=\"Signatures on a sheet of paper\" width=\"780\" height=\"1006\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2026/02/Signatures-2.jpg 780w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2026/02/Signatures-2-160x206.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2026/02/Signatures-2-768x991.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 780px) 100vw, 780px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The first page of a signed petition from the students of the University of Idaho requesting cancellation of studies, school functions, and other duties until after the Thanksgiving Holiday due to the pandemic quarantine, ca. 1918. Credit: University of Idaho Library Digital Collections\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Spanish flu ultimately killed about 675,000 Americans at a time when the U.S. population was roughly 100 million — nearly twice the proportional death rate of Covid-19, which has claimed about 1.2 million lives in a country more than three times as large. Unlike Covid, the Spanish flu struck hardest at young adults in their 20s and 30s, the very ages colleges relied on to fill their classrooms and new faculty seats. Yet, Levine argues, higher education never managed to help that generation recover — academically, socially or psychologically.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, institutions moved on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We essentially aged out of it,” said Levine, speaking at the American Enterprise Institute in January about \u003ca href=\"https://www.aei.org/events/tackling-higher-educations-challenges-a-conversation-with-frederick-m-hess-and-brandeis-university-president-arthur-levine/\">higher education’s challenges\u003c/a>. “Pretty soon the people who were home weren’t in college anymore. It’s a relatively short number of years.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There were innovations. In what we would now call remote learning, colleges expanded correspondence courses. In 1922, Penn State became the first institution to use radio for instruction. Female enrollment grew, particularly in nursing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there was little evidence of repair or recovery. Students who had seen their education disrupted by both World War I and the pandemic were depleted in number and altered in outlook. They would come to be known as the lost generation: disillusioned, cynical, psychologically scarred and searching for meaning in a world that had failed to make sense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What prevented this loss from registering as a lasting crisis was scale. In the late 1910s and early 1920s, only about 5 percent of young Americans attended college. There were far fewer colleges and universities. And higher education was not yet central to economic and social life in the way it is today. When one cohort faltered, institutions simply admitted the next. Replacement took the place of recovery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, the cultural effects were visible. Writers like Ernest Hemingway, Gertrude Stein and F. Scott Fitzgerald chronicled the lingering disillusionment of a generation shaped by war and disease. The Roaring Twenties, Levine argues, were less a sign of healing than a counterreaction that would be followed, a decade later, by the Great Depression.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Levine doesn’t romanticize the past. “Everything I’ve read makes it sound like the Spanish flu combined with World War I may have been a harder slog,” he said in an interview. “So many lives were lost — not only students but faculty and staff. Mental health resources were primitive.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The parallels to the present are unsettling, but the differences may matter even more. Today, well over 60 percent of young adults attend college immediately or shortly after high school. Higher education has become a mass institution, deeply intertwined with economic mobility and social identity. And Covid did not just disrupt schooling; it imposed prolonged social isolation at a formative stage of development for teens and young adults. Levine notes that it is impossible to disentangle the effects of the pandemic from the rise of smartphones and social media, which were already reshaping how young people relate to one another.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Enrollment declines following Covid echo those of the Spanish flu era. But replacement may no longer be a viable strategy. When higher education serves a small elite, institutions can absorb loss quietly. When it serves a majority, the consequences of disruption are broader, more visible, and harder to outrun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lesson of the Spanish flu is not that young people inevitably bounce back. It is that institutions endured by waiting. A century ago, that carried limited cost. 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But enrollment rose at four-year public universities and at community colleges, where short-term credentials tied to the workforce grew by 28% when compared with a year ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re continuing to see students shifting out of some of the more traditional pathways into these shorter-term, these more flexible, perhaps more job- and career-oriented fields,” explains Holsapple.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Gains and shifts, despite concerns about value\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The numbers provide welcome news and some clear insights to college leaders worried about reports showing many Americans questioning the value of a college degree.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Confidence in college is coming back, but it is conditional,” says Courtney Brown, who studies public opinion on colleges for the Lumina Foundation, an Indianapolis-based nonprofit aimed at improving higher education.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The public’s been telling us that cost, flexibility and career relevance shape their view of college’s worth,” Brown says. “So people aren’t turning away from education — they’re just getting more precise about what kind of education they want.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That could reflect uncertainty in the economy and news about hiring slowdowns, says Jeff Strohl, director of the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce. 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"content": "\u003cp>The U.S. Department of Education \u003ca href=\"https://www.ed.gov/about/news/press-release/us-department-of-education-announces-agreement-missouri-end-biden-administrations-illegal-save-plan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">announced Tuesday\u003c/a> that it had reached a proposed settlement agreement to end a popular, yet controversial Biden-era student loan repayment plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Saving on a Valuable Education plan, better known as SAVE, was the \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/07/14/1187545921/student-loan-forgiveness-save-repayment\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">most flexible and generous\u003c/a> of all income-driven repayment plans, promising expedited loan forgiveness and monthly payments as low as $0 for low-income borrowers. Republican state attorneys general, led by Missouri, sued the Biden administration, arguing in court that SAVE was too generous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-embed npr-promo-card insettwocolumn\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\u003c/div>\n\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The legal challenges put all SAVE borrowers in limbo for months, during which they were not required to make payments on their loans – even after many had already spent years in a pandemic payment pause. \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/07/24/nx-s1-5477646/student-loan-repayment-forgiveness-trump\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Interest resumed accruing\u003c/a> on SAVE loans in August.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The law is clear: if you take out a loan, you must pay it back,” Under Secretary of Education Nicholas Kent said in a statement announcing the proposed agreement. “Thanks to the State of Missouri and other states fighting against this egregious federal overreach, American taxpayers can now rest assured they will no longer be forced to serve as collateral for illegal and irresponsible student loan policies.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tuesday’s agreement, pending court approval, would end the long legal battle over SAVE by ending SAVE itself. The Education Department would commit not to enroll more borrowers in SAVE, to deny all pending SAVE applications and to move the roughly 7 million borrowers still enrolled in SAVE into other repayment plans – though some of those plans \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/07/24/nx-s1-5477646/student-loan-repayment-forgiveness-trump\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">are also in flux\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The department also said student loan borrowers would have “a limited time to select a new, legal repayment plan.” Borrowers will have to choose between two types of plans: 1.) \u003ca href=\"https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/repayment/plans#fixed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">fixed payment plans\u003c/a> or 2.) plans with \u003ca href=\"https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/repayment/plans#income-driven\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">payments based on a borrower’s income\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/07/24/nx-s1-5477646/student-loan-repayment-forgiveness-trump\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">two new plans\u003c/a> created by Republicans’ One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA) will roll out in July 2026, and will include a revised standard plan and a new income-driven plan called the Repayment Assistance Plan. Though SAVE borrowers will likely be expected to change plans before then.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The SAVE plan’s days were already numbered. Under the OBBBA, borrowers would have had to change plans by July 1, 2028. Tuesday’s news would move that deadline up, though the administration has not provided a timeframe for the changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the proposal is approved by the court, transitioning millions of borrowers to other plans will be a Herculean feat for loan servicing companies that handle day-to-day loan operations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s gonna be bumpy,” says Scott Buchanan, head of the Student Loan Servicing Alliance. “Remember, SAVE borrowers have not been in repayment for years. They’re gonna have a ton of questions and will need a ton of hand-holding to get back into repayment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The settlement arrives as millions of borrowers are struggling to keep up with their payments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are sitting on the precipice of millions of borrowers defaulting on their loans,” says Persis Yu, of Protect Borrowers. “And instead of choosing to defend a plan that would have been affordable for these borrowers, this Department of Education has capitulated to the AGs and is going to make life much more expensive.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The American Enterprise Institute, AEI, \u003ca href=\"https://www.aei.org/education/new-student-loan-data-show-a-historic-spike-in-borrowers-falling-behind/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recently published an analysis\u003c/a> of the latest federal student loan data: In addition to the 5.5 million borrowers who are currently in default, another 3.7 million are more than 270 days late on their payments and on the edge of default. 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It promised fast-tracked loan forgiveness, monthly payments as low as $0 for low-income borrowers. But it turns out, Scott, it was so generous that Republican state attorneys general sued the Biden administration, arguing in court it was too generous and that if Congress had wanted to create a plan like this, it would have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so SAVE has been in legal limbo ever since. Now though, you know, President Trump’s Education Department agrees with those Republican AGs, and so they appear to have cut a deal. Under Secretary of Education Nicholas Kent said in a statement announcing the proposed settlement today, quote, “American taxpayers can now rest assured they will no longer be forced to serve as collateral for illegal and irresponsible student loan policies.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DETROW: There’s probably a lot of people listening who are enrolled in the SAVE plan. What do they need to know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TURNER: Well, they’re in good company. 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The idea was to help nonprofits and state and local governments hire and retain good people even if they can’t pay private sector wages. And Congress, we should say, defined public service really broadly in the law to include anyone working in government or a 501(c)(3) nonprofit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SUMMERS: Right, OK. 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"content": "\u003cp>In a new \u003ca href=\"https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69753739/44/american-federation-of-teachers-v-us-department-of-education/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">court filing\u003c/a>, the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) is asking a federal judge to force the U.S. Department of Education to follow the law and cancel the debts of borrowers who have met longstanding requirements for loan forgiveness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The AFT argues the department is delaying cancellation for many borrowers in a way that is “unwarranted and unlawful” and will have “real and significant consequences.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s because the clock is ticking. With the American Rescue Plan, Congress temporarily stopped treating loan cancellation as taxable income until Jan. 1, 2026. Soon, many borrowers will again be expected to pay taxes on those cancelled debts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The AFT is seeking an injunction to force the department to do a few things, including:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul class=\"rte2-style-ul\" style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; padding-inline-start: 48px;\">\n\u003cli>Cancel the debts of borrowers on income-dependent repayment plans \u003ca href=\"https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/repayment/plans/income-driven\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">like IBR, ICR and PAYE\u003c/a> when those borrowers have met the requirement that they be in repayment for 20 or 25 years.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Process thousands of outstanding requests for Public Service Loan Forgiveness from borrowers who “buy back” time that did not previously count.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>The trouble started with the SAVE Plan\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The Education Department largely blames these delays in debt cancellation on the Biden administration and the federal courts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Congress designed these [plans] to ensure that borrowers repay their loans, yet the Biden Administration tried to illegally force taxpayers to foot the bill,” Education Secretary Linda McMahon \u003ca href=\"https://www.ed.gov/about/news/press-release/us-department-of-education-continues-improve-federal-student-loan-repayment-options-addresses-illegal-biden-administration-actions\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">said in a July statement\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McMahon is referring to the income-driven SAVE repayment plan, which was created by the Biden administration and was so generous in its terms that the courts forced the department to put the plan on ice, throwing much of the loan program into confusion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Education Department has used the legal uncertainty around SAVE to justify halting cancellation under ICR, PAYE and IBR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>IBR was created by Congress and is not being challenged legally. But the department told NPR in July that questions about SAVE’s legality had made it difficult to determine eligibility for cancellation under IBR. As a result, many borrowers who are likely eligible for cancellation are still having to make payments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For any borrower that makes a payment after they became eligible for forgiveness, the Department will refund overpayments when the discharges resume,” the department told NPR in a statement this week. As for when that might be?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The department would not commit to a timetable: “IBR discharges will resume as soon as the Department is able to establish the correct payment count.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>PSLF troubles\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Borrowers enrolled in Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) have also encountered delays. According to court records, by the end of last month, the department had a backlog of nearly 75,000 applications for cancellation under the PSLF “Buyback” program. That allows borrowers with 10 years of verified public service to make qualifying payments for months they spent in forbearance or deferment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In its amended suit, the AFT says, from May to August, the department received far more buyback applications than it processed. Each month, “the Department received an average of 9,902 new applications, but only processed an average of 3,604.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, Education Department Deputy Press Secretary Ellen Keast says, with the PSLF “Buyback” program, the Biden administration was guilty of “weaponizing a legal discharge plan for political purposes. The Department is working its way through this backlog while ensuring that borrowers have submitted the required 120 payments of qualifying employment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Processing these buyback applications can be time-consuming, and the Trump administration’s move to \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/nx-s1-5325854/trump-education-department-layoffs-civil-rights-student-loans\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">cut the Office of Federal Student Aid’s staff by half\u003c/a> may have slowed its efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-embed npr-promo-card insettwocolumn\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\u003c/div>\n\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Jan. 1, 2026, tax changes will not apply to Public Service Loan Forgiveness.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Many borrowers are at risk of default\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>More than 7 million borrowers are enrolled in SAVE and have not been required to make payments, but the Trump administration \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/07/24/nx-s1-5477646/student-loan-repayment-forgiveness-trump\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recently resumed interest accrual\u003c/a> on these loans, looking to \u003ca href=\"https://www.ed.gov/about/news/press-release/us-department-of-education-continues-improve-federal-student-loan-repayment-options-addresses-illegal-biden-administration-actions\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">nudge borrowers\u003c/a> into alternative plans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But \u003ca href=\"https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278527/gov.uscourts.dcd.278527.42.0.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">court records show\u003c/a> enrolling in an alternative has been slow-going for months. In February, the department temporarily stopped accepting applications for all income-dependent repayment plans, and though it has resumed, more than a million were still pending as of the end of August.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Education Department’s Keast tells NPR this backlog began during the previous administration, and that the department “is actively working with federal student loan servicers and hopes to clear the Biden backlog over the next few months.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amidst all this confusion and uncertainty, data suggest many federal student loan borrowers \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5521317/millions-of-student-loan-borrowers-are-at-risk-of-defaulting-data-shows\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">are failing to repay their loans\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One in three federal student loan borrowers that are in repayment right now are in some stage of delinquency,” says Daniel Mangrum, a research economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meaning millions of borrowers are now at serious risk of default.\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>MOREHEAD, Ky. — The summer after ninth grade, Zoey Griffith found herself in an unfamiliar setting: a dorm on the Morehead State University campus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There, she’d spend the months before her sophomore year taking classes in core subjects like math and biology, as well as electives like oil painting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Griffith, it was an opportunity, but a scary one. “It was a big deal for me to live on campus at the age of 14,” she said. Morehead State is about an hour from her hometown of Maysville. “I was nervous, and I remember that I cried the first time that my dad left me on move-in day.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her mother became a parent as a teenager and urged her daughter to avoid the same experience. Griffith’s father works as a mechanic, and he frowns upon the idea of higher education, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so college back then seemed a distant and unlikely dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Griffith’s stepsister had introduced her to a federal program called Upward Bound. It places high school students in college dorms during the summer, where they can take classes and participate in workshops on preparing for the SAT and financial literacy. During the school year, students get tutoring and work on what are called “individual success plans.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s part of a group of federal programs, known as TRIO, aimed at helping low-income and first-generation students earn a college degree, often becoming the first in their families to do so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So thanks to that advice from her stepsister, Kirsty Beckett, who’s now 27 and pursuing a doctorate in psychology, Griffith signed up and found herself in that summer program at Morehead State. Now, Griffith is enrolled at Maysville Community and Technical College, with plans to become an ultrasound technician.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRIO, once a group of three programs — giving it a name that stuck — is now the umbrella over eight, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ed.gov/sites/ed/files/about/offices/list/ope/trio/trio50anniv-factsheet.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">some dating back to 1965\u003c/a>. Together they serve roughly 870,000 students nationwide a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has worked with millions of students and has \u003ca href=\"https://coenet.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/TRIO-Caucus-List_061825.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">bipartisan support\u003c/a> in Congress. Now, some in this part of the Appalachian region of Kentucky and across the country worry about students who won’t get the same assistance if President Trump ends federal spending on the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A White House \u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Fiscal-Year-2026-Discretionary-Budget-Request.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">budget proposal\u003c/a> would eliminate spending on TRIO. The document says “access to college is not the obstacle it was for students of limited means,” and it puts the onus on colleges to recruit and support students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates note that the programs, which cost roughly $1.2 billion each year, have a proven track record. Students in Upward Bound, for example, are more than twice as likely to earn a bachelor’s degree by age 24 than other students from some of the United States’ poorest households, \u003ca href=\"https://coenet.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/COE_Overview-One-Pager_Advocacy_May-2025_v3.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">according to the Council for Opportunity in Education\u003c/a>. COE is a nonprofit that represents TRIO programs nationwide and advocates for expanded opportunities for first-generation, low-income students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the high school class of 2022, 74% of Upward Bound students enrolled immediately in college — compared with only 56% of high school graduates in the bottom income quartile.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/2877x3821+0+0/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F65%2F2d%2F25daaf874cf0ba2bdcc32d0e292f%2Fhe-trio-6.jpg\" alt=\"Students Zoey Griffith (left) and Aniyah Caldwell say the Upward Bound program has been life-changing for them. Upward Bound is one of eight federal programs under the TRIO umbrella.\">\u003cfigcaption>Students Zoey Griffith (left) and Aniyah Caldwell say the Upward Bound program has been life-changing for them. Upward Bound is one of eight federal programs under the TRIO umbrella. \u003ccite> (Michael Vasquez | The Hechinger Report)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Upward Bound is for high school students. Another TRIO program, Talent Search, helps middle and high school students, without the residential component. One program called Student Support Services (SSS) provides tutoring, advising and other assistance to at-risk college students. Another program prepares students for graduate school and doctoral degrees, and yet another trains TRIO staff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.ed.gov/sites/ed/files/about/offices/list/ope/trio/sssparticpantsinbpsls.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2019 study\u003c/a> found that after four years of college, students in SSS were 48% more likely to complete an associate’s degree or certificate, or transfer to a four-year institution, than a comparable group of students with similar backgrounds and similar levels of high school achievement who were not in the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“TRIO has been around for 60 years,” said Kimberly Jones, the president of COE. “We’ve produced millions of college graduates. We know it works.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yet Education Secretary Linda McMahon and the White House refer to the programs as a “\u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Fiscal-Year-2026-Discretionary-Budget-Request.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">relic of the past\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jones countered that census data shows that “students from the poorest families still earn college degrees at rates far below that of students from the highest-income families,” demonstrating continued need for TRIO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McMahon is challenging that and pushing for further study of those TRIO success rates. In 2020, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-5\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">U.S. Government Accountability Office found\u003c/a> that even though the Education Department collects data on TRIO participants, the agency “has gaps in its evidence on program effectiveness.” The GAO criticized the Education Department for having “outdated” studies on some TRIO programs and no studies at all for others. Since then, the department has expanded its evaluations of TRIO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During a Senate subcommittee hearing in June, McMahon acknowledged that “there is some effectiveness of the programs, in many circumstances.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, she said there is not enough research to justify TRIO’s total cost. “That’s a real drawback in these programs,” McMahon said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, she is asking lawmakers to eliminate TRIO spending after this year and has already canceled some previously approved TRIO grants.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Opening a door into a broader world\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“What are we supposed to do, especially here in eastern Kentucky?” asks David Green, a former Upward Bound participant who is now marketing director for a pair of Kentucky hospitals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/1366x768+0+0/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Ff8%2F69%2F4771cf194e918cbc91c3f5a9e242%2Fhe-trio-4.jpg\" alt=\"East Main Street in Morehead, Ky., just outside Morehead State University's campus.\">\u003cfigcaption>East Main Street in Morehead, Ky., just outside Morehead State University’s campus. \u003ccite> (Michael Vasquez | The Hechinger Report)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Green lives in a region that has some of the nation’s highest rates of unemployment, cancer and opioid addiction. “I mean, these people have big hearts — they want to grow,” he adds. Cutting these programs amounts to “stifling us even more than we’re already stifled.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Green described his experience with TRIO at Morehead State in the mid-1980s as “one of the best things that ever happened to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He grew up in a home without running water in Maysville, a city of about 8,000 people. It was on a TRIO trip to Washington, D.C., he recalled, that he stayed in a hotel for the first time. Green remembers bringing two suitcases so he could pack a pillow, sheets and a comforter — unaware the hotel room would have its own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He met students from other towns and with different backgrounds. Some became lifelong friends. Green learned table manners, the kind of thing often required in business settings. After college, he was so grateful for TRIO that he became one of its tutors, working with the next generation of students.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Uncertain future in Congress\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Jones, of the Council for Opportunity in Education, said she is cautiously optimistic that Congress will continue funding TRIO, despite the Trump administration’s request. The programs serve students in all 50 states. According to the COE, about 34% are white, 32% are Black, 23% are Hispanic, 5% are Asian and 3% are Native American.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In May, Rep. Mike Simpson, an Idaho Republican, called TRIO “one of the most effective programs in the federal government,” which, he said, is supported by “many, many members of Congress.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In June, Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, a Republican from West Virginia and a former TRIO employee, spoke about its importance to her state. TRIO helps “a student that really needs the extra push, the camaraderie, the community,” she said. “I’ve gone to their graduations, and been their speaker, and it’s really quite delightful to see how far they’ve come in a short period of time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRIO survived, with its funding intact, when the Senate Appropriations Committee approved its budget last month. The House is expected to take up its version of the annual appropriations bill for education in early September. Both chambers ultimately have to agree on federal spending, a process that could drag on until December, leaving TRIO’s fate in Congress uncertain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While lawmakers debate its future, the Trump administration could also delay or halt TRIO funding on its own. This year, the administration took the unprecedented step of unilaterally \u003ca href=\"https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/politics-elections/2025/06/11/trio-advocates-worry-after-upward-bound-grants\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">canceling about 20\u003c/a> previously approved new and continuing TRIO grants.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A big impact on young lives\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At Morehead State, leaders there say the university and the region it serves need the boost received from TRIO: While roughly 38% of American adults have earned at least a bachelor’s degree, in Kentucky that figure is only 16%. And locally, it’s 7%, according to Summer Fawn Bryant, the director of TRIO’s Talent Search programs at the university.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRIO works to counter the stigma of attending college that still exists in parts of eastern Kentucky, Bryant said, where a student from a humble background who is considering college might be scolded with the phrase: \u003cem>Don’t get above your raisin’\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A parent may say it,” Bryant said. “A teacher may say it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She added that she’s seen time and again how these programs can turn around the lives of young students from poor families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-embed npr-promo-card insettwocolumn\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\u003c/div>\n\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Students like Beth Cockrell, an Upward Bound alum from Pineville, Ky., who said her mom struggled with parenting. “Upward Bound stepped in as that kind of co-parent and helped me decide what my major was going to be.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cockrell went on to earn three degrees at Morehead State and has worked as a teacher for the past 19 years. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>MOREHEAD, Ky. — The summer after ninth grade, Zoey Griffith found herself in an unfamiliar setting: a dorm on the Morehead State University campus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There, she’d spend the months before her sophomore year taking classes in core subjects like math and biology, as well as electives like oil painting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Griffith, it was an opportunity, but a scary one. “It was a big deal for me to live on campus at the age of 14,” she said. Morehead State is about an hour from her hometown of Maysville. “I was nervous, and I remember that I cried the first time that my dad left me on move-in day.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her mother became a parent as a teenager and urged her daughter to avoid the same experience. Griffith’s father works as a mechanic, and he frowns upon the idea of higher education, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so college back then seemed a distant and unlikely dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Griffith’s stepsister had introduced her to a federal program called Upward Bound. It places high school students in college dorms during the summer, where they can take classes and participate in workshops on preparing for the SAT and financial literacy. During the school year, students get tutoring and work on what are called “individual success plans.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s part of a group of federal programs, known as TRIO, aimed at helping low-income and first-generation students earn a college degree, often becoming the first in their families to do so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So thanks to that advice from her stepsister, Kirsty Beckett, who’s now 27 and pursuing a doctorate in psychology, Griffith signed up and found herself in that summer program at Morehead State. Now, Griffith is enrolled at Maysville Community and Technical College, with plans to become an ultrasound technician.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRIO, once a group of three programs — giving it a name that stuck — is now the umbrella over eight, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ed.gov/sites/ed/files/about/offices/list/ope/trio/trio50anniv-factsheet.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">some dating back to 1965\u003c/a>. Together they serve roughly 870,000 students nationwide a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has worked with millions of students and has \u003ca href=\"https://coenet.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/TRIO-Caucus-List_061825.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">bipartisan support\u003c/a> in Congress. Now, some in this part of the Appalachian region of Kentucky and across the country worry about students who won’t get the same assistance if President Trump ends federal spending on the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A White House \u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Fiscal-Year-2026-Discretionary-Budget-Request.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">budget proposal\u003c/a> would eliminate spending on TRIO. The document says “access to college is not the obstacle it was for students of limited means,” and it puts the onus on colleges to recruit and support students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates note that the programs, which cost roughly $1.2 billion each year, have a proven track record. Students in Upward Bound, for example, are more than twice as likely to earn a bachelor’s degree by age 24 than other students from some of the United States’ poorest households, \u003ca href=\"https://coenet.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/COE_Overview-One-Pager_Advocacy_May-2025_v3.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">according to the Council for Opportunity in Education\u003c/a>. COE is a nonprofit that represents TRIO programs nationwide and advocates for expanded opportunities for first-generation, low-income students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the high school class of 2022, 74% of Upward Bound students enrolled immediately in college — compared with only 56% of high school graduates in the bottom income quartile.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/2877x3821+0+0/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F65%2F2d%2F25daaf874cf0ba2bdcc32d0e292f%2Fhe-trio-6.jpg\" alt=\"Students Zoey Griffith (left) and Aniyah Caldwell say the Upward Bound program has been life-changing for them. Upward Bound is one of eight federal programs under the TRIO umbrella.\">\u003cfigcaption>Students Zoey Griffith (left) and Aniyah Caldwell say the Upward Bound program has been life-changing for them. Upward Bound is one of eight federal programs under the TRIO umbrella. \u003ccite> (Michael Vasquez | The Hechinger Report)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Upward Bound is for high school students. Another TRIO program, Talent Search, helps middle and high school students, without the residential component. One program called Student Support Services (SSS) provides tutoring, advising and other assistance to at-risk college students. Another program prepares students for graduate school and doctoral degrees, and yet another trains TRIO staff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.ed.gov/sites/ed/files/about/offices/list/ope/trio/sssparticpantsinbpsls.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2019 study\u003c/a> found that after four years of college, students in SSS were 48% more likely to complete an associate’s degree or certificate, or transfer to a four-year institution, than a comparable group of students with similar backgrounds and similar levels of high school achievement who were not in the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“TRIO has been around for 60 years,” said Kimberly Jones, the president of COE. “We’ve produced millions of college graduates. We know it works.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yet Education Secretary Linda McMahon and the White House refer to the programs as a “\u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Fiscal-Year-2026-Discretionary-Budget-Request.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">relic of the past\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jones countered that census data shows that “students from the poorest families still earn college degrees at rates far below that of students from the highest-income families,” demonstrating continued need for TRIO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McMahon is challenging that and pushing for further study of those TRIO success rates. In 2020, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-5\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">U.S. Government Accountability Office found\u003c/a> that even though the Education Department collects data on TRIO participants, the agency “has gaps in its evidence on program effectiveness.” The GAO criticized the Education Department for having “outdated” studies on some TRIO programs and no studies at all for others. Since then, the department has expanded its evaluations of TRIO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During a Senate subcommittee hearing in June, McMahon acknowledged that “there is some effectiveness of the programs, in many circumstances.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, she said there is not enough research to justify TRIO’s total cost. “That’s a real drawback in these programs,” McMahon said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, she is asking lawmakers to eliminate TRIO spending after this year and has already canceled some previously approved TRIO grants.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Opening a door into a broader world\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“What are we supposed to do, especially here in eastern Kentucky?” asks David Green, a former Upward Bound participant who is now marketing director for a pair of Kentucky hospitals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/1366x768+0+0/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Ff8%2F69%2F4771cf194e918cbc91c3f5a9e242%2Fhe-trio-4.jpg\" alt=\"East Main Street in Morehead, Ky., just outside Morehead State University's campus.\">\u003cfigcaption>East Main Street in Morehead, Ky., just outside Morehead State University’s campus. \u003ccite> (Michael Vasquez | The Hechinger Report)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Green lives in a region that has some of the nation’s highest rates of unemployment, cancer and opioid addiction. “I mean, these people have big hearts — they want to grow,” he adds. Cutting these programs amounts to “stifling us even more than we’re already stifled.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Green described his experience with TRIO at Morehead State in the mid-1980s as “one of the best things that ever happened to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He grew up in a home without running water in Maysville, a city of about 8,000 people. It was on a TRIO trip to Washington, D.C., he recalled, that he stayed in a hotel for the first time. Green remembers bringing two suitcases so he could pack a pillow, sheets and a comforter — unaware the hotel room would have its own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He met students from other towns and with different backgrounds. Some became lifelong friends. Green learned table manners, the kind of thing often required in business settings. After college, he was so grateful for TRIO that he became one of its tutors, working with the next generation of students.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Uncertain future in Congress\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Jones, of the Council for Opportunity in Education, said she is cautiously optimistic that Congress will continue funding TRIO, despite the Trump administration’s request. The programs serve students in all 50 states. According to the COE, about 34% are white, 32% are Black, 23% are Hispanic, 5% are Asian and 3% are Native American.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In May, Rep. Mike Simpson, an Idaho Republican, called TRIO “one of the most effective programs in the federal government,” which, he said, is supported by “many, many members of Congress.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In June, Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, a Republican from West Virginia and a former TRIO employee, spoke about its importance to her state. TRIO helps “a student that really needs the extra push, the camaraderie, the community,” she said. “I’ve gone to their graduations, and been their speaker, and it’s really quite delightful to see how far they’ve come in a short period of time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRIO survived, with its funding intact, when the Senate Appropriations Committee approved its budget last month. The House is expected to take up its version of the annual appropriations bill for education in early September. Both chambers ultimately have to agree on federal spending, a process that could drag on until December, leaving TRIO’s fate in Congress uncertain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While lawmakers debate its future, the Trump administration could also delay or halt TRIO funding on its own. This year, the administration took the unprecedented step of unilaterally \u003ca href=\"https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/politics-elections/2025/06/11/trio-advocates-worry-after-upward-bound-grants\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">canceling about 20\u003c/a> previously approved new and continuing TRIO grants.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A big impact on young lives\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At Morehead State, leaders there say the university and the region it serves need the boost received from TRIO: While roughly 38% of American adults have earned at least a bachelor’s degree, in Kentucky that figure is only 16%. And locally, it’s 7%, according to Summer Fawn Bryant, the director of TRIO’s Talent Search programs at the university.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>TRIO works to counter the stigma of attending college that still exists in parts of eastern Kentucky, Bryant said, where a student from a humble background who is considering college might be scolded with the phrase: \u003cem>Don’t get above your raisin’\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A parent may say it,” Bryant said. “A teacher may say it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She added that she’s seen time and again how these programs can turn around the lives of young students from poor families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-embed npr-promo-card insettwocolumn\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\u003c/div>\n\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Students like Beth Cockrell, an Upward Bound alum from Pineville, Ky., who said her mom struggled with parenting. “Upward Bound stepped in as that kind of co-parent and helped me decide what my major was going to be.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cockrell went on to earn three degrees at Morehead State and has worked as a teacher for the past 19 years. She now works with students at her alma mater and teaches third grade at Conkwright Elementary School, about an hour away.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Long-term benefits\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Sherry Adkins, an eastern Kentucky native who attended TRIO more than 50 years ago and went on to become a registered nurse, said efforts to cut TRIO spending ignore the long-term benefits. “Do you want all of these people that are disadvantaged to continue like that? Where they’re taking money from society? Or do you want to help prepare us to become successful people who pay lots of taxes?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Washington considers TRIO’s future, program directors like Bryant, at Morehead State, press forward. 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"content": "\u003cp>If you’re a federal student loan borrower or about to become one, your head may be spinning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On July 4, when President Trump signed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/07/03/nx-s1-5454841/house-republicans-trump-tax-bill-medicaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">into law\u003c/a>, he also greenlit a history-making overhaul of the federal student loan system — one that will affect the lives of many, if not most, of the United States’ nearly 43 million student loan borrowers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And boy is it a lot to unpack, with new, tighter borrowing limits and dramatically reduced repayment options, to name just a few of the sweeping changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In May, we \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/05/12/nx-s1-5389644/trump-student-loan-program-forgiveness-overhaul\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">explained\u003c/a> this overhaul, as conceived by House Republicans. Now that a Senate compromise has been signed into law, here’s an updated guided tour of the final changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Let’s start with the elephant in the room:\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>President Biden’s SAVE plan is ending\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The most generous repayment plan is the Biden-era Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) plan. But it is so generous, with its low monthly payments and expedited loan forgiveness, that Republicans have so far successfully argued in court that it is \u003cem>too\u003c/em> generous. In fact, the nearly 7.7 million borrowers currently enrolled in SAVE have been in legal limbo for months, without interest accruing or required monthly payments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s about to change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For all practical purposes, I would say SAVE is just kind of dead at this point, even if it’s technically on life support,” said Preston Cooper at the conservative-leaning American Enterprise Institute (AEI).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This month, the U.S. Education Department announced that on Aug. 1, SAVE borrowers will, once again, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ed.gov/about/news/press-release/us-department-of-education-continues-improve-federal-student-loan-repayment-options-addresses-illegal-biden-administration-actions#:~:text=Next%20Steps,well%20as%20their%20principal%20amounts.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">see their balances grow\u003c/a> — with interest. Because the SAVE plan is still enjoined, though, borrowers won’t yet be required to make payments. Still, Cooper said that many borrowers, rather than watch their loans balloon, will likely want to move to a different plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Roxanne Garza, director of higher education policy at the liberal-leaning EdTrust, worries that the relatively last-minute announcement about interest accrual will cause problems for the Education Department, which saw \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/nx-s1-5325854/trump-education-department-layoffs-civil-rights-student-loans\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">roughly half its staff cut\u003c/a> by the Trump administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think what will likely happen now is you will see a rush of people trying to take action that will, again, likely create an even bigger backlog,” said Garza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, borrowers in SAVE will have to change plans by July 1, 2028, when SAVE will be officially shut down. If they wait, though they currently can’t be required to make payments, they will see their loans explode with interest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the two new plans that the law creates won’t be ready for a year, and the department’s \u003ca href=\"https://studentaid.gov/loan-simulator/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">own website\u003c/a>, meant to help borrowers navigate their repayment options, does not reflect this confusing new landscape, except for a banner that says: “Loan Simulator will be updated at a later date to reflect recent legislative changes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Beginning July 1, 2026, new loans will be subject to new borrowing limits\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Undergraduates won’t see any changes to their \u003ca href=\"https://studentaid.gov/understand-aid/types/loans/subsidized-unsubsidized\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">loan limits\u003c/a>. But it’s a very different story for graduate students and parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For graduate students, new limits will make it harder for lower- and middle-income borrowers to attend pricier graduate programs. The current \u003ca href=\"https://studentaid.gov/understand-aid/types/loans/plus/grad\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">grad PLUS loan\u003c/a> allows students to borrow up to the cost of their graduate program, but Republicans are shutting it down this time next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After that, grad students’ borrowing will be capped at $20,500 a year with a lifetime graduate school loan limit of $100,000, a big drop from the previous cap of $138,500.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How big a deal will this be? AEI’s Cooper has been crunching the numbers and said, “Just under 20% of master’s students borrow above the proposed limits.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Borrowers working toward a professional graduate degree (i.e., medical or law school) will have their borrowing capped at $50,000 a year and their lifetime cap increased from $138,500 to $200,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parents and caregivers who use parent PLUS loans to help students pay for college will also see new loan limits. They will be capped at $20,000 a year and, in aggregate, at $65,000 per child.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cooper says only one-third of parent PLUS borrowers with dependent children currently take out more than this new annual loan cap.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The law also sets a new lifetime limit, for undergrad and graduate loans combined, at $257,500 per person.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Repayment options for borrowers are changing dramatically\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Republicans are reducing repayment options for new borrowers from the current seven plans down to two new plans. The new plans are:\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>1. The standard plan\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>New borrowers will be assigned a repayment window of between 10 and 25 years, depending on the size of their debt, with equal monthly payments like a home mortgage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under \u003ca href=\"https://edworkforce.house.gov/uploadedfiles/ans_el_recon_01_xml.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this plan\u003c/a>, borrowers with larger debts would qualify for a longer repayment period:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Owe less than $25,000, and repay over 10 years.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Owe $25,000 or more but less than $50,000? Repayment expands to 15 years.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Owe $50,000 or more but less than $100,000: Repay over 20 years.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Anyone owing $100,000 or more would repay over a 25-year period.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>2. The Repayment Assistance Plan (RAP) \u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>For borrowers worried they don’t earn enough to cover the inflexible monthly payments of the new standard plan, Republicans have also created the Repayment Assistance Plan (RAP).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On RAP, payments would largely be based on borrowers’ total adjusted gross income (AGI).\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Borrowers earning no more than $10,000 would be asked to pay $10 a month.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Earn more than $10,000 but not more than $20,000, and your payment will be based on 1% of AGI.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>More than $20,000 but not more than $30,000, it would be 2% of AGI and so on up the income scale.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Repayment tops out at 10% of AGI for borrowers earning $100,000 a year or more.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Current borrowers will also have access to this new RAP plan, as well as to some older plans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>RAP is the latest in a long line of income-based repayment plans. How does it compare with previous plans?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Monthly payments for many middle-income borrowers on RAP will be \u003cem>lower \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>compared with earlier plans, \u003ca href=\"https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/2025-05/House_Republicans_Proposed_IDR_Plan_for_Student_Loans.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">according to\u003c/a> multiple \u003ca href=\"https://www.aei.org/research-products/report/an-analysis-of-the-one-big-beautiful-bill-acts-effect-on-student-loans/#scrollSection7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">experts\u003c/a>. But RAP is not as generous as the Biden-era SAVE plan, which, again, is being phased out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>RAP will require even the lowest-income borrowers to make a minimum monthly payment of $10, ending the $0 option of previous plans and making it more expensive for these borrowers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This new $10 minimum payment wouldn’t make a big difference to the government’s coffers, said Jason Delisle, who spoke to NPR \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/05/12/nx-s1-5389644/trump-student-loan-program-forgiveness-overhaul\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in May\u003c/a>, when he was studying student loan policy at the Urban Institute. Delisle has since been appointed to a position in the Trump administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Delisle said the purpose of RAP’s new $10 minimum payment likely stems from “emerging research that requiring people to make some payment each month is good because it keeps them connected to the loan and makes it less likely that they’ll default\u003cem>.”\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But some borrower advocates worry that this new minimum payment could have the opposite effect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the lowest-income borrowers, asking for $120 a year is “significant,” EdTrust’s Garza told NPR in May. “I think having that be a required minimum payment will likely push more borrowers into default.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But RAP also comes with a few new perks that borrowers will likely appreciate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>RAP will waive any interest that is left after a borrower makes their monthly payment. \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If their monthly payment is $50 but they owe $75 a month in interest, the government will waive the remaining $25.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The result: Borrowers will no longer see their loans\u003cem> grow\u003c/em>, which was a common downside to previous income-driven repayment plans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Borrowers on RAP will also see their balances go \u003cem>down \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://www.aei.org/education/house-republicans-proposed-repayment-plan-fixes-vexing-student-loan-problem/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cstrong>every month\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong>.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The government will pitch in up to $50 to make sure lower-income borrowers see their principal balances shrink.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, a borrower whose monthly payment makes only a $30 dent in their principal would see the government knocking off an extra $20 a month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Borrowers whose monthly payments already reduce their principal balance by at least $50 would get no extra help from the government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a form of monthly loan forgiveness,” Delisle said. “It’s a drip, drip, drip of loan forgiveness, rather than waiting for the big payout at the end of 20 years.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The loan forgiveness math will change.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While previous plans offered forgiveness after 20 or 25 years, the RAP would extend that to 360 qualifying payments, or 30 years. That’s a big difference, said AEI’s Cooper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Borrowers with typical levels of debt “and typical incomes for their degree level are almost always gonna pay off well before they hit that 30-year mark,” Cooper said. “So if you’re going into RAP, I wouldn’t be thinking about forgiveness because you’re probably gonna pay it off before you hit 30 years.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In short, the days of what Delisle called “the big payout” are over.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>But wait! Current borrowers have another loan forgiveness option (sort of).\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to RAP, an older plan known as Income-Based Repayment (IBR) will still be available to borrowers who take out their loans before July 1, 2026.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Part of the reason IBR remains is that, unlike other income-driven repayment plans, IBR wasn’t created by the Education Department. It was created by Congress and is codified in statute.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How does IBR work? For borrowers with loans older than July 2014, their payments are capped at 15% of discretionary income. Payments on younger loans are capped at 10%.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the Biden-era SAVE plan being wound down, Delisle said, most lower- and middle-income borrowers would likely have lower monthly payments on the new RAP compared with IBR.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, Delisle said, borrowers with older loans might still want to enroll in IBR if they’ve been in repayment for close to 20 or 25 years, so they can qualify for loan forgiveness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s because, on IBR, pre-2014 loans qualify for forgiveness after 25 years. For newer loans, it’s just 20 years — both considerably shorter than RAP’s 30-year schedule.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One big caveat to all this: The Education Department has temporarily stopped processing all loan forgiveness for borrowers on IBR because of the legal actions surrounding the SAVE plan, according to a statement from Education Department Deputy Press Secretary Ellen Keast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keast said the Biden-era rule explaining SAVE “provided the authority to count forbearances in IBR toward loan forgiveness” and, because that rule has been frozen by the courts, the department can’t accurately determine loan forgiveness under IBR. “Discharges will resume as soon as the Department is able to establish the correct payment count,” Keast said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The department told NPR that any borrowers who make payments after they’re eligible for forgiveness will eventually get a refund.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Edited by \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/people/348780034/nicole-cohen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cem>Nicole Cohen\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>If you’re a federal student loan borrower or about to become one, your head may be spinning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On July 4, when President Trump signed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/07/03/nx-s1-5454841/house-republicans-trump-tax-bill-medicaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">into law\u003c/a>, he also greenlit a history-making overhaul of the federal student loan system — one that will affect the lives of many, if not most, of the United States’ nearly 43 million student loan borrowers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And boy is it a lot to unpack, with new, tighter borrowing limits and dramatically reduced repayment options, to name just a few of the sweeping changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In May, we \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/05/12/nx-s1-5389644/trump-student-loan-program-forgiveness-overhaul\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">explained\u003c/a> this overhaul, as conceived by House Republicans. Now that a Senate compromise has been signed into law, here’s an updated guided tour of the final changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Let’s start with the elephant in the room:\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>President Biden’s SAVE plan is ending\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The most generous repayment plan is the Biden-era Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) plan. But it is so generous, with its low monthly payments and expedited loan forgiveness, that Republicans have so far successfully argued in court that it is \u003cem>too\u003c/em> generous. In fact, the nearly 7.7 million borrowers currently enrolled in SAVE have been in legal limbo for months, without interest accruing or required monthly payments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s about to change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For all practical purposes, I would say SAVE is just kind of dead at this point, even if it’s technically on life support,” said Preston Cooper at the conservative-leaning American Enterprise Institute (AEI).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This month, the U.S. Education Department announced that on Aug. 1, SAVE borrowers will, once again, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ed.gov/about/news/press-release/us-department-of-education-continues-improve-federal-student-loan-repayment-options-addresses-illegal-biden-administration-actions#:~:text=Next%20Steps,well%20as%20their%20principal%20amounts.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">see their balances grow\u003c/a> — with interest. Because the SAVE plan is still enjoined, though, borrowers won’t yet be required to make payments. Still, Cooper said that many borrowers, rather than watch their loans balloon, will likely want to move to a different plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Roxanne Garza, director of higher education policy at the liberal-leaning EdTrust, worries that the relatively last-minute announcement about interest accrual will cause problems for the Education Department, which saw \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/nx-s1-5325854/trump-education-department-layoffs-civil-rights-student-loans\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">roughly half its staff cut\u003c/a> by the Trump administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think what will likely happen now is you will see a rush of people trying to take action that will, again, likely create an even bigger backlog,” said Garza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, borrowers in SAVE will have to change plans by July 1, 2028, when SAVE will be officially shut down. If they wait, though they currently can’t be required to make payments, they will see their loans explode with interest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the two new plans that the law creates won’t be ready for a year, and the department’s \u003ca href=\"https://studentaid.gov/loan-simulator/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">own website\u003c/a>, meant to help borrowers navigate their repayment options, does not reflect this confusing new landscape, except for a banner that says: “Loan Simulator will be updated at a later date to reflect recent legislative changes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Beginning July 1, 2026, new loans will be subject to new borrowing limits\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Undergraduates won’t see any changes to their \u003ca href=\"https://studentaid.gov/understand-aid/types/loans/subsidized-unsubsidized\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">loan limits\u003c/a>. But it’s a very different story for graduate students and parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For graduate students, new limits will make it harder for lower- and middle-income borrowers to attend pricier graduate programs. The current \u003ca href=\"https://studentaid.gov/understand-aid/types/loans/plus/grad\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">grad PLUS loan\u003c/a> allows students to borrow up to the cost of their graduate program, but Republicans are shutting it down this time next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After that, grad students’ borrowing will be capped at $20,500 a year with a lifetime graduate school loan limit of $100,000, a big drop from the previous cap of $138,500.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How big a deal will this be? AEI’s Cooper has been crunching the numbers and said, “Just under 20% of master’s students borrow above the proposed limits.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Borrowers working toward a professional graduate degree (i.e., medical or law school) will have their borrowing capped at $50,000 a year and their lifetime cap increased from $138,500 to $200,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parents and caregivers who use parent PLUS loans to help students pay for college will also see new loan limits. They will be capped at $20,000 a year and, in aggregate, at $65,000 per child.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cooper says only one-third of parent PLUS borrowers with dependent children currently take out more than this new annual loan cap.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The law also sets a new lifetime limit, for undergrad and graduate loans combined, at $257,500 per person.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Repayment options for borrowers are changing dramatically\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Republicans are reducing repayment options for new borrowers from the current seven plans down to two new plans. The new plans are:\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>1. The standard plan\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>New borrowers will be assigned a repayment window of between 10 and 25 years, depending on the size of their debt, with equal monthly payments like a home mortgage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under \u003ca href=\"https://edworkforce.house.gov/uploadedfiles/ans_el_recon_01_xml.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this plan\u003c/a>, borrowers with larger debts would qualify for a longer repayment period:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Owe less than $25,000, and repay over 10 years.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Owe $25,000 or more but less than $50,000? Repayment expands to 15 years.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Owe $50,000 or more but less than $100,000: Repay over 20 years.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Anyone owing $100,000 or more would repay over a 25-year period.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>2. The Repayment Assistance Plan (RAP) \u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>For borrowers worried they don’t earn enough to cover the inflexible monthly payments of the new standard plan, Republicans have also created the Repayment Assistance Plan (RAP).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On RAP, payments would largely be based on borrowers’ total adjusted gross income (AGI).\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Borrowers earning no more than $10,000 would be asked to pay $10 a month.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Earn more than $10,000 but not more than $20,000, and your payment will be based on 1% of AGI.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>More than $20,000 but not more than $30,000, it would be 2% of AGI and so on up the income scale.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Repayment tops out at 10% of AGI for borrowers earning $100,000 a year or more.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Current borrowers will also have access to this new RAP plan, as well as to some older plans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>RAP is the latest in a long line of income-based repayment plans. How does it compare with previous plans?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Monthly payments for many middle-income borrowers on RAP will be \u003cem>lower \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>compared with earlier plans, \u003ca href=\"https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/2025-05/House_Republicans_Proposed_IDR_Plan_for_Student_Loans.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">according to\u003c/a> multiple \u003ca href=\"https://www.aei.org/research-products/report/an-analysis-of-the-one-big-beautiful-bill-acts-effect-on-student-loans/#scrollSection7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">experts\u003c/a>. 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