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Twinks has been offering free haircuts for the month of March to honor trans visibility. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“This is your appearance — this is what will make you feel comfortable in your body,” he said. “This haircut can be a haircut for a job interview that you’re trying to get … It can be what helps you get out of the shelter if you’re experiencing homelessness.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Growing up, Vasquez was heavily involved in youth intervention programs like \u003ca href=\"https://mncsf.org/mission-girls-2/\">Mission Girls\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://mncsf.org/precita-valley-community-center-and-family-resource-center/\">Precita Valley Community Center\u003c/a>. “Doing a lot of community work and coming from the juvenile system helped me shift and form how I am now,” he explained. “I feel like cutting hair is still kind of like community work.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>‘Find each other and stick together’\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>By offering free haircuts, Vasquez has met dozens of transgender men living all over the Bay Area and other parts of California. They’ve shared their personal situations and asked to hear about his own experience transitioning. From his barber chair, he’s been able to form a network of support, where he connects transgender men seeking friends and community with each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Filimoehala is one of these men. “For a really long time, especially with my own transition, I felt really alone,” he said. As someone of mixed Pacific Islander and Latino descent, he said he’s always found it rare to meet another trans person who shared his background and traditions. But he’s met several people through Vasquez, which prompted him to form the \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/pasifikatransmen_network/\">Pasifika Trans Men Network\u003c/a>, a group for trans masc and trans men in the Pacific Islander community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a big need for us to find each other and stick together because we don’t really know what the next steps are in terms of what the federal government\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12029428/how-californians-can-start-changing-names-and-gender-markers-on-government-ids\"> is going to do\u003c/a>,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12033470\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1600px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12033470\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35.jpg\" alt=\"A transgender client at a barber shop gets ready for a haircut with a barber preparing for work.\" width=\"1600\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35.jpg 1600w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35-800x1000.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35-1020x1275.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35-160x200.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35-1229x1536.jpg 1229w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Angel Filimoehala checks out his new haircut at Steel and Strand barbershop in San Francisco on March 26, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the past few months, President Donald \u003ca href=\"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/6-ways-trumps-executive-orders-are-targeting-transgender-people\">Trump’s administration has targeted \u003c/a>the needs and rights of transgender and nonbinary people nationwide. On his first day back in the White House, Trump signed an\u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/\"> executive order\u003c/a> that declares the federal government will only “recognize two sexes, male and female,” and has threatened to cut funding for universities and hospitals that provide gender affirming care to trans minors. The Department of Education has also launched investigations into universities that allow transgender athletes to compete with the team that matches their gender identity — including\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12025974/federal-officials-investigate-san-jose-state-under-trumps-order-trans-athletes\"> San José State University\u003c/a> in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re trying really hard\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12032067/here-are-all-the-ways-people-are-disappearing-from-government-websites\"> to erase us\u003c/a>,” Filimoehala said. “To me, that’s crazy because I feel there’s more problems in our country than us being trans.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, Vasquez is still getting messages from folks looking for a free haircut. While he also has to make time for paying customers, he’s now looking at ways he can further extend his services for free in the future. “Money can’t buy community. Money can’t buy real connections with your people,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is about getting to know other black and brown trans men and building community in my chair.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12033466\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12033466\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Santana ‘Twinks’ Vasquez poses for a photo at Steel and Strand barbershop in San Francisco on March 26, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>\u003ca id=\"A\">\u003c/a>Tips from Vasquez on finding gender-affirming haircuts and grooming\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Do some research…\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before going to a barbershop, Vasquez recommended you spend some time on social media looking for the haircut style you want to go for. It’s helpful to know different terms like a fade or taper haircut, he said, but also …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Don’t be afraid to lean on your barber, too\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you go to a barber and are upfront about what you want, but you don’t know how to describe it … your barber will understand and probably think: ‘Let me give them grace, because at least they’re coming in and they’re trying,’” Vasquez said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Be upfront about what you want to keep (or lose)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When you’re first growing out your beard, it comes out like peach fuzz,” said Vasquez. “Tell your barber or hairdresser, ‘Hey, I’m trying to keep this on the side. Please don’t cut it off.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Be upfront because, as barbers, we don’t know if you’re letting it grow out because it’s been a long time since you got a haircut,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#A\">Jump to: Tips for finding gender-affirming haircuts and grooming\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Finishing Filimoehala’s hair with a spray of coconut oil, Vasquez gently brushed the remaining hair from his shoulders. “A lot of my clients, I feel like they’re my family, to be honest,” Vasquez said. “They sit in my chair, and we talk about what’s going on with them in their day-to-day. I’m not going to stay quiet through the whole haircut.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Vasquez, his barber chair is a safe space for queer people — especially for transgender men like him, who’ve felt anxious or uncomfortable getting their haircut at other barbershops. Earlier in March, he published \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/twinks415/\">a flyer on his Instagram page\u003c/a> offering free haircuts all month long to trans men. Within a week, the post had already been shared hundreds of times, with dozens of people commenting messages of support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12033467\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12033467\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-12.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-12.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-12-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-12-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-12-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-12-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-12-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Santana ‘Twinks’ Vasquez cuts Angel Filimoehala’s hair at Steel and Strand barbershop in San Francisco on March 26, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I wanted to open this up for younger trans men that are facing homelessness, that are in the shelter, that don’t have the resources to be able to afford a haircut in San Francisco because prices are super high,” he said, adding that since he published the flyer, people from all over the country — and even abroad — have reached out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I honestly did not expect the flyer to reach so many people,” he admitted.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>‘Kind of like community work’\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For Vasquez, who grew up in the Mission District, it wasn’t always easy to find a place he felt good getting a haircut himself. Beauty salons often weren’t the best option for finding the styles he wanted. Meanwhile, barber shops were usually spaces taken up by \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/14/nyregion/art-a-meditation-on-masculinity-wrapped-up-in-a-barbershop.html\">cisgender Latino men\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Damn, you feel like Tupac — ‘all eyes on me,’” he laughed. “It’s scary to walk in such a male-dominated area … you feel that testosterone walking in and everybody’s looking at you, sizing you up.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also, “they might misgender you,” Vasquez said. “They probably don’t know what [wording] to use.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a teen, Vasquez would occasionally cut family members’ hair, but it was after he lost a close friend in 2017 that he decided to formally train as a barber. He wanted to become what he never saw growing up: a trans barber of color serving other trans people of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12033469\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12033469\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-33.jpg\" alt=\"A transgender client at a barber shop gets a beard trim, closeup.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-33.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-33-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-33-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-33-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-33-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-33-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Santana ‘Twinks’ Vasquez cuts Angel Filimoehala’s beard at Steel and Strand barbershop in San Francisco on March 26, 2025. Twinks has been offering free haircuts for the month of March to honor trans visibility. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“This is your appearance — this is what will make you feel comfortable in your body,” he said. “This haircut can be a haircut for a job interview that you’re trying to get … It can be what helps you get out of the shelter if you’re experiencing homelessness.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Growing up, Vasquez was heavily involved in youth intervention programs like \u003ca href=\"https://mncsf.org/mission-girls-2/\">Mission Girls\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://mncsf.org/precita-valley-community-center-and-family-resource-center/\">Precita Valley Community Center\u003c/a>. “Doing a lot of community work and coming from the juvenile system helped me shift and form how I am now,” he explained. “I feel like cutting hair is still kind of like community work.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>‘Find each other and stick together’\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>By offering free haircuts, Vasquez has met dozens of transgender men living all over the Bay Area and other parts of California. They’ve shared their personal situations and asked to hear about his own experience transitioning. From his barber chair, he’s been able to form a network of support, where he connects transgender men seeking friends and community with each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Filimoehala is one of these men. “For a really long time, especially with my own transition, I felt really alone,” he said. As someone of mixed Pacific Islander and Latino descent, he said he’s always found it rare to meet another trans person who shared his background and traditions. But he’s met several people through Vasquez, which prompted him to form the \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/pasifikatransmen_network/\">Pasifika Trans Men Network\u003c/a>, a group for trans masc and trans men in the Pacific Islander community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a big need for us to find each other and stick together because we don’t really know what the next steps are in terms of what the federal government\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12029428/how-californians-can-start-changing-names-and-gender-markers-on-government-ids\"> is going to do\u003c/a>,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12033470\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1600px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12033470\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35.jpg\" alt=\"A transgender client at a barber shop gets ready for a haircut with a barber preparing for work.\" width=\"1600\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35.jpg 1600w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35-800x1000.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35-1020x1275.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35-160x200.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-35-1229x1536.jpg 1229w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Angel Filimoehala checks out his new haircut at Steel and Strand barbershop in San Francisco on March 26, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the past few months, President Donald \u003ca href=\"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/6-ways-trumps-executive-orders-are-targeting-transgender-people\">Trump’s administration has targeted \u003c/a>the needs and rights of transgender and nonbinary people nationwide. On his first day back in the White House, Trump signed an\u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/\"> executive order\u003c/a> that declares the federal government will only “recognize two sexes, male and female,” and has threatened to cut funding for universities and hospitals that provide gender affirming care to trans minors. The Department of Education has also launched investigations into universities that allow transgender athletes to compete with the team that matches their gender identity — including\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12025974/federal-officials-investigate-san-jose-state-under-trumps-order-trans-athletes\"> San José State University\u003c/a> in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re trying really hard\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12032067/here-are-all-the-ways-people-are-disappearing-from-government-websites\"> to erase us\u003c/a>,” Filimoehala said. “To me, that’s crazy because I feel there’s more problems in our country than us being trans.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, Vasquez is still getting messages from folks looking for a free haircut. While he also has to make time for paying customers, he’s now looking at ways he can further extend his services for free in the future. “Money can’t buy community. Money can’t buy real connections with your people,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is about getting to know other black and brown trans men and building community in my chair.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12033466\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12033466\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250326_SFBarber_GC-7-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Santana ‘Twinks’ Vasquez poses for a photo at Steel and Strand barbershop in San Francisco on March 26, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>\u003ca id=\"A\">\u003c/a>Tips from Vasquez on finding gender-affirming haircuts and grooming\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Do some research…\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before going to a barbershop, Vasquez recommended you spend some time on social media looking for the haircut style you want to go for. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On February 5, 2025, President Trump signed an executive order banning transgender athletes from competing in women’s sports, fulfilling a promise he made on the campaign trail. Subsequently, the U.S. Department of Education announced an investigation into San José State University for allowing a transgender athlete to play on the volleyball team. 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And it was just exciting. There were really they’re both making points. It was really cool. There are a good amount of spectators there. You know, people’s parents and other students. And for the most part, it looked like any other game. There were some security people there sort of escorting players around and like making sure that people didn’t go in this one area where the players were. There were several students there holding signs in support of the team. There was one protester who was holding a sign that said Protect women’s Sports to oppose the fact that this team was playing with all of its players there. But other than that, it was it was a normal college sports game.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:14] \u003c/em>Which is really interesting because that is different from how it seems like the rest of the country is talking about San \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">José\u003c/span> State right now. 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And Brooke says that she doesn’t want the player to be bullied but doesn’t think that she should be playing on the team. Brooks-lasure was reached out to by this group called Icons. It stands for Independent Counsel on Women’s Sports. They’re essentially an anti-trans advocacy group who is funding Reilly Gaines lawsuit against the NCAA to try to keep trans players out of the NCAA. A rally gains as a former college swimmer and now an anti-trans advocate. And so they approached Brooke Slusser and brought her in as an additional plaintiff on this lawsuit. And she, you know, told the court that her teammate is trans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:12] \u003c/em>So this happened in September, right? When Slusser joined this already existing lawsuit brought forward first by a former college swimmer named Riley Gaines. What is this lawsuit about exactly? What is it, I guess ultimately seeking to do?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:31] \u003c/em>The overall relief that they are seeking is really quite broad. The lawsuit is seeking to ban trans athletes from college sports, trying to get the court to agree that including them violates Title nine, which is the federal law that prohibits discrimination based on sex and educational settings. Also to go back into the history of things and rescind any records or wins from trans athletes. It will require sex verification to make sure there are no trans athletes playing. This would really change how Title nine is being used in in terms of trans bans and stuff like that in courts. Right now, courts have allowed a lot of states to ban trans people from sports. 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It shouldn’t be happening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:04] \u003c/em>She says that her teammate, who she says is trans, is more physically imposing than her, her fellow teammates, that she just has an unbeatable power that puts her and her teammates at risk of injury.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Brooke Slusser: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:20] \u003c/em>Again, the power behind this swing is just so different. And if you’re not completely prepared for it, you will get blown up. And that’s the scariest part, because that could end your career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:31] \u003c/em>She’s saying that, you know, having a player that was born male makes it unfair for her and also dangerous for her and her teammates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Brooke Slusser: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:41] \u003c/em>And so I think at the end of the day, I just got so far up, I was like, I want to be able to make this change for other people coming into collegiate sports.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:48] \u003c/em>I mean, Slusser is alleging, first of all, that she has a trans teammate. But has this teammate said anything publicly about this or her gender identity?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:59] \u003c/em>So your listeners will notice that we are not saying her name, and that’s because she hasn’t said anything publicly about her gender identity. San \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">José\u003c/span> State has not provided any information about her gender identity. They cite privacy laws and they have maintained that all of their players meet NCAA, a Mountain West Conference rules and that’s all they will say about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:24] \u003c/em>But we do know who she is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:27] \u003c/em>Yes, we do know who she is. Her name has been very much out there. The lawsuits and the articles on conservative sites that Brooke Slusser and others have commented on frequently use him pronouns for this player and generally talk pretty directly about her physicality, etc.. We’re not doing that, but it’s definitely out there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:56] \u003c/em>I mean, what do we know about whether Brooke’s allegations are, in fact, true? 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I talked to a lot of experts who deal with inclusion in sports and who, you know, have read the science and they say that there is no evidence that there is any sort of universal advantage that trans women have in sports, especially once they’ve transitioned medically. Oftentimes, trans women have lower testosterone levels than cisgender women.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:10:18] \u003c/em>According to Slusser, her teammates spikes the ball as fast as 80 mph, which would make her as strong as some of the best men’s players ever. But ESPN analyzed the speed of the teammates spikes in five different games, including ones that went viral. ESPN found that the average speed of those spikes was just over 50 mph, and the fastest was estimated at 64 mph.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:10:54] \u003c/em>So, Natalia, I mean, how do trans women join a college sports team? 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But from the lawsuit, basically they do say exactly that. They just say allowing trans people to play on women’s sports teams in itself violates Title IX.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:54] \u003c/em>On the other hand, you did talk with people who disagree with that interpretation of Title IX, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:00] \u003c/em>Yeah, exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Shiwali Patel: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:02] \u003c/em>This would just lead to an incredible marginalization of an already marginalized group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:08] \u003c/em>I talked to a lawyer at the National Women’s Law Center show, Shiwali Patel. She’s a title IX expert, and she had not great things to say about this lawsuit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Shiwali Patel: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:20] \u003c/em>Title IX can’t be used to justify exclusion of a vulnerable group of students from equal educational opportunities based on how they look or play or who they are. What these plaintiffs are seeking to do is to really turn Title nine on its head and to remove it from its purpose of equal educational opportunity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:39] \u003c/em>She says that this is not really doing anything to protect women’s sports. There’s a lot less access to facilities. There is a lot less funding, there’s a lot less research in order to to prevent injury. Like there’s a lot of stuff here that needs to be done in terms of protecting women in sports. And she says that none of that has anything to do with kicking trans people out of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Shiwali Patel: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:06] \u003c/em>There are well-documented actual issues when it comes to gender inequity in sport that if they were to put their resources and time into that, they could be fighting to achieve gender equity. This is not one of them, you know, and trying to exclude trans women and girls from women and girls sports.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:23] \u003c/em>I know you talked to people who think that banning trans women from sports is part of this larger effort to restrict LGBTQ rights more broadly. What do you hear from people you spoke to about that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:36] \u003c/em>I talked to Erin Reid, who is an independent journalist who covers anti-trans legislation all over the country. And she had a really interesting thought about this, that it really isn’t about any sort of particular advantage, that it’s just about discrimination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Erin Reed: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:56] \u003c/em>To be clear, you know, we are seeing bans not just in, you know, heavy impact sports, but we’re also seeing bans on transgender athletes and sports like chess and darts and fishing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:15:10] \u003c/em>And she thought that it was interesting that this is folk focusing on sports because she mentioned that she has heard from conservative pundits that sports is actually an easy way to get people who are against the LGBTQ community. It’s an easy entry point for them to start talking about trans issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Erin Reed: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:15:34] \u003c/em>And many of the same states that started with transgender participation in sports, in fact, not just many. Virtually all of the states, with the exception of Alaska, have gone on to pass gender affirming caravans for trans youth, have gone on to pass other bills like don’t say gay, don’t say trans. We see book bans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:15:51] \u003c/em>I mean, I can’t imagine. What the last few months must have been like for the San \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">José\u003c/span> State volleyball team. I mean, how often did this issue come up for San \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">José\u003c/span> State this season?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:16:06] \u003c/em>It was kind of a constant. Several universities forfeited their games against San \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">José\u003c/span> State and that’s part of what made the news so big because they refused to play the team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:16:21] \u003c/em>And to be clear, these teams were forfeiting in protest of this teammate that Slusser alleges is trans. Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:16:29] \u003c/em>That’s, I think, a safe assumption. But we don’t know that for sure. Most of the the universities have not said that per se.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sia Li’ili’i: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:16:40] \u003c/em>At the beginning of this season, brave women across our conference were meeting with their coaches and school administration, telling them that they would not play against San \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">José\u003c/span> State\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:16:49] \u003c/em>But for example, in in the case of the University of Nevada, Reno, several of the players from that team attended a rally put on by icons, which is that anti-trans organization that’s funding the lawsuit against the NCAA and spoke about the fact that they are against this supposedly trans player being a part of the team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sia Li’ili’i: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:17:12] \u003c/em>I never expected to be blindsided having to compete against a male athlete. I will continue to fight for my friends, my family, and the next generation of female athletes. All female athletes deserve to be protected at every level and every age. This is unfair and it has to be stopped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:17:36] \u003c/em>The team while having a obviously a very tough season. And I can’t even imagine what it would be like to be on that team right now. I’m sure that the conversations that are happening are really hard. But they were able to make it to the postseason. And just this past week, they played at the Mountain West Conference tournament and had another high profile forfeit from Boise State. But that got them into the into the final match against Colorado. And they did lose that match, but they made it all the way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:18:14] \u003c/em>What if folks from the team said about what this season has been like for them? 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If you took away all of the context and you were just watching them play, I don’t think you would really know that all of this stuff was going on because the two players, Brooks Lesser and the teammate that she says is trans, that she is in court trying to get out of her team. They are playing right next to each other and they’re, you know, for doing pretty well. They won the game. But I went to go see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:19:33] \u003c/em>San \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">José\u003c/span> State’s women’s volleyball season has ended, right? It ended last week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:19:40] \u003c/em>Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:19:41] \u003c/em>But how do you think this story could still have ripple effects even beyond San \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">José\u003c/span> State?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:19:47] \u003c/em>Yeah, I think it is really much bigger than San \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">José\u003c/span> State. And when we’re talking about sort of trickle down effects of this this sort of lawsuit and this sort of larger political conversation about trans people in sports, is that it can affect people of all gender identities. We could talk about the Olympics this past summer and the Algerian boxer, Amani Khalifa, who is a cisgender woman who people sort of decided, maybe she’s trans. And it became this whole thing. Another example is the situation that happened in Utah, which does have a trans sports ban in place. There was a girl playing high school sports and someone on the athletics association and in relation to the school thought that she was trans. And then there was this whole investigation into this child’s gender, unbeknownst to her or her parents. It can really be a problem where we’re now people are sort of pointing fingers at people, young girls and women who maybe don’t fit gender stereotypes and and now have to somehow prove that they are who they say they are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:21:07] \u003c/em>Natalia, thank you so much for walking us through this story. I really appreciate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:21:12] \u003c/em>It. Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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It stands for Independent Counsel on Women’s Sports. They’re essentially an anti-trans advocacy group who is funding Reilly Gaines lawsuit against the NCAA to try to keep trans players out of the NCAA. A rally gains as a former college swimmer and now an anti-trans advocate. And so they approached Brooke Slusser and brought her in as an additional plaintiff on this lawsuit. And she, you know, told the court that her teammate is trans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:12] \u003c/em>So this happened in September, right? When Slusser joined this already existing lawsuit brought forward first by a former college swimmer named Riley Gaines. What is this lawsuit about exactly? What is it, I guess ultimately seeking to do?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Natalia Navarro: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:31] \u003c/em>The overall relief that they are seeking is really quite broad. The lawsuit is seeking to ban trans athletes from college sports, trying to get the court to agree that including them violates Title nine, which is the federal law that prohibits discrimination based on sex and educational settings. Also to go back into the history of things and rescind any records or wins from trans athletes. It will require sex verification to make sure there are no trans athletes playing. This would really change how Title nine is being used in in terms of trans bans and stuff like that in courts. Right now, courts have allowed a lot of states to ban trans people from sports. What this would do if this went the way of the plaintiffs is it would say not only can they ban trans people from sports, they actually have to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:39] \u003c/em>And I mean, why exactly did Slusser get involved in this lawsuit in the first place? 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If you took away all of the context and you were just watching them play, I don’t think you would really know that all of this stuff was going on because the two players, Brooks Lesser and the teammate that she says is trans, that she is in court trying to get out of her team. They are playing right next to each other and they’re, you know, for doing pretty well. They won the game. But I went to go see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:19:33] \u003c/em>San \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">José\u003c/span> State’s women’s volleyball season has ended, right? 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