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On the other: residents and advocates worried about a creeping surveillance state and the myriad security issues Flock has already been exposed for.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Morgan talks to Bay Area reporters Roselyn Romero and Riley Cooke about the fight over Flock spreading throughout the region, what we still don’t know about how Flock’s data is used and how some residents are finding creative ways to push back.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC6560783367\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guests:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/author/roselyn-romero/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Roselyn Romero\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, public safety journalist at \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Oaklandside \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ci>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://www.paloaltoonline.com/author/rcookeembarcaderopublishing-com/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Riley Cooke\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, reporter at \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Palo Alto Weekly \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Further Reading/Listening:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0gr7Fh6lY\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We Hacked Flock Safety Cameras in under 30 Seconds \u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">— Benn Jordan, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Youtube \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://sanjosespotlight.com/palo-alto-license-plate-data-searched-by-hundreds-of-out-of-state-agencies/\">Palo Alto license plate data searched by hundreds of out-of-state agencies\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — Riley Cooke, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>Palo Alto Weekly\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/2026/05/28/flock-training-police-city-councils-webinar/\">Flock is quietly training Bay Area police to sway city leaders to buy surveillance tech\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — Roselyn Romero, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>The Oaklandside \u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.404media.co/flock-exposed-its-ai-powered-cameras-to-the-internet-we-tracked-ourselves/\">Flock Exposed Its AI-Powered Cameras to the Internet. We Tracked Ourselves\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — Jason Koebler, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>\u003ci>404 Media\u003c/i>\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://knock-la.com/does-flock-safety-keep-women-safe/\">Does Flock Safety Keep Women Safe?\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — Jayme Kusyk, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>\u003ci>\u003ci>Knock LA\u003c/i>\u003c/i>\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://ij.org/police-have-reportedly-used-license-plate-readers-to-stalk-romantic-interests-at-least-14-times-in-recent-years/\">Police Have Reportedly Used License Plate Readers to Stalk Romantic Interests at Least 21 Times in Recent Years \u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>\u003ci>\u003ci> —\u003c/i>\u003c/i>\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Christopher Ingraham, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>\u003ci>\u003ci>Institute for Justice\u003c/i>\u003c/i>\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://prospect.org/2026/05/21/home-depot-lowes-downplay-customer-surveillance-threats-flock-cameras-immigration/\">Home Depot and Lowe’s Downplay Customer Surveillance Threats\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — Whitney Curry Wimbish, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>\u003ci>\u003ci>\u003ci>The American Prospect\u003c/i>\u003c/i>\u003c/i>\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.whro.org/business-growth/2026-01-20/flock-cameras-in-hampton-roads-surveil-black-communities-more-intensely-than-white-ones-cnu-study-says\">Flock cameras in Hampton Roads surveil Black communities more intensely than white ones, CNU study says\u003c/a> — Toby Cox, \u003ci>WHRO\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.404media.co/ice-taps-into-nationwide-ai-enabled-camera-network-data-shows/\">ICE Taps into Nationwide AI-Enabled Camera Network, Data Shows\u003c/a> — Jason Koebler & Joseph Cox, \u003ci>404 Media\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/2026/04/24/who-is-paint-bombing-oaklands-flock-cameras/\">Who is paint bombing Oakland’s Flock cameras?\u003c/a> — Eli Wolfe, \u003ci>The Oaklandside\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/across-the-us-people-are-dismantling\">Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras\u003c/a> — Brian Merchant, \u003ci>Blood In The Machine\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/sf-car-break-in-data-18639763.php\">Has S.F. cracked how to fix the car break-in crisis? Here’s what is driving the decline\u003c/a> — Rachel Swan, \u003ci>San Francisco Chronicle \u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Want to give us feedback on the show? Shoot us an email at \u003ca href=\"mailto:CloseAllTabs@KQED.org\">CloseAllTabs@KQED.org\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Follow us on\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/closealltabspod/\"> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Instagram\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> and\u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@closealltabs\"> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">TikTok\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Bay Area Resident: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Having Flock cameras will not keep us safe. These cameras will go up in the neighborhoods where people of color live and we can be damn sure that this information will be taken by the feds and shared with ICE. They do what they want. So don’t believe anybody who says this information is private and secure. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In April, Bay Area residents crowded into the downtown Oakland Administration building. It was supposed to be a routine budget meeting for the Alameda County Board of Supervisors. But it was unusually packed, thanks to one agenda item: approving a contract extension for Flock Safety cameras. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This would allow the controversial surveillance tech company to continue running its network of AI-powered license plate readers throughout the county — including unincorporated areas outside of cities like Oakland and Berkeley. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The contract expired last summer. If approved, the extension would buy another three months of Flock surveillance. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The room was packed with residents, from Oakland to Castro Valley. Even more attended virtually to give comments. More than a hundred residents spoke during the meeting. Close All Tabs producer, Maya Cueva, was on the scene. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Narayan: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Good evening. I urge you to reject Flock’s $854,000 contract extension. This isn’t a camera system, it’s a mass surveillance network that will track every single one of us, making a searchable database that tracks our movements. You guys say you care about immigrant communities, but this system puts them directly in danger. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock’s license plate readers have become a flashpoint for a debate across the country — not just in the Bay Area. On one side: law enforcement and their supporters, who say the cameras reduce crime and improve public safety. On the other: residents and advocates who are concerned about a creeping surveillance state, an erosion of the right to privacy, and the myriad security issues Flock has already been exposed for. Alameda County residents of all ages have been fighting against Flock in their neighborhoods for a while. And some aren’t even able to vote yet. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Narayan: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hi, my name’s Narayan. I’m 17. I go by he/him pronouns, and I’m from East Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kaylyn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hello, my names Kaylyn. I’m 17 years old, and I live in Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Tyson: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My name is Tyson, I’m 18, he/him pronouns, and I live in Albany. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Narayan: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m here to stop the implementation and extending of a Flock contract in my county. Flock is a multi-billion dollar corporation that is focused on hyper surveillance of people, and we’ve already seen that it is in the wrong hands. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Three years ago, Alameda County leaders approved a contract to install 100 plate readers throughout the county. Berkeley has just over 30, and Oakland recently approved a $2 million contract for nearly 300 more cameras in the city. Other residents have been speaking out about the issue for years now. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Manny: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’ve been fighting Flock since 2023, but now it’s a lot more in the cultural zeitgeist. A lot of people have become a lot aware of the surveillance systems that are being used to surveil them, to watch and kidnap their community members. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ramesh Sridharan: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We don’t want mass surveillance. We should be investing in communities. We should be spending our money on that as opposed to programs like Flock, which contribute to a surveillance state and have no evidence of actually reducing crime. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But some residents spoke in support of extending Flock’s contract. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Robert Battinich: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was raised in San Leandro for 25 years. I own property in San Leandro and I’ve been robbed 24 times. Recently, they put Flock cameras in San Leandro, and it seems to be that they haven’t been breaking in. So, please vote “yes” on renewing the contract with the Flock cameras. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The board of supervisors kept calling for decorum when attendees clapped for anti-Flock speakers. So one resident used his allotted time to scold the board. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ralph Brown: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, it seems like a majority of you are just ready to reject the overwhelming majority of your residents who are telling you to vote “no” on this contract, not spend $300,000 plus more dollars to extend this contract and basically just say- tell us to go fuck ourselves, is what I’m hearing from you. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The meeting lasted hours — and after all that, the board of supervisors voted 3-2 in favor of extending the contract. Protests broke out. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Protesters outside of budget meeting]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Get Flock off our block! Get Flock off our block! Get Flock off our block! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The backlash we’re seeing against Flock in Alameda County is part of a bigger nationwide fight against normalizing mass surveillance. Flock vandalism is up across the country. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @wwmtnews on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Kalamazoo County Sheriff’s Office says someone intentionally cut down a Flock license plate reader camera along D Avenue in Cooper Township. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @WHAS11News on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Auburn normally has 12 in the city, now they’re down two. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @tmj4 on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Take a close look at this automatic license plate reading camera, and you’ll notice gold paint covering the lens. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People have put stickers over the cameras’ lenses, covered them with trash bags, paintbombed entire devices, and joked online about pointing lasers at the cameras to destroy the sensors. In Oregon, someone cut down six poles holding Flock cameras, leaving a note that said, quote, “Hahaha get wrecked you surveilling fucks.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @KEZI9News on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No arrests have been made in either jurisdiction, but this is considered criminal mischief. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s local news station KEZI 9, which actually broadcasted the uncensored note. But aside from resorting to “criminal mischief,” how else are people fighting the installation of these cameras in their neighborhoods? Today, we’re digging into the heated debate around Flock cameras: what exactly they’re doing with your data and why this might matter more than you think. Ready? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is Close All Tabs. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Morgan Sung, tech journalist, and your chronically online friend, here to open as many browser tabs as it takes to help you understand how the digital world affects our real lives. Let’s get into it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Automated license plate readers, or ALPRs, have been rapidly rolled out by cities and communities around the country, with Flock Safety’s tech at the lead. Before we get any deeper into this, we need to talk about what Flock actually is — and how it was adopted so quickly. Let’s open a new tab: Why is Flock so controversial? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Let’s get into the origin story. So, Flock Safety is based in Atlanta, Georgia. It operates a whole host of surveillance devices: cameras, drones, and, importantly, for this story, ALPRs. Back in 2017, this Georgia Tech alum, Garrett Langley, noticed the uptake in break-ins around his Atlanta neighborhood. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Police told him that grainy surveillance camera footage was actually unhelpful, and what they really needed to find perpetrators were license plates. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, Garrett called up two of his college buddies. Together, they worked on a prototype camera that could record and share what he called “evidence,” not just footage. Here he is speaking to Forbes last year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip of Garrett’s interview with @Forbes on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, it’s pretty wild. At the end of ’17, we were sitting at my dining room table in Atlanta, building cameras by hand. And now, today, we’re in a roughly 100,000 square foot facility building cameras, building trailers, building drones — all right here in Georgia, which is pretty fun. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Fun” is certainly one way to put it. This entrepreneurial, neighborly concern has grown into an operation of at least 90,000 cameras nationwide, scanning over 20 billion license plates per month. Over 1,000 private businesses have also installed the cameras, adding to Flock’s massive surveillance database. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In Oakland, the push for installing Flock’s ALPRs was fueled by local frustration over BIP-ing — you know, breaking into a parked car and looting whatever’s inside. Here’s Roselyn Romero, a reporter for the independent local news outlet, The Oaklandside. She’s been covering Flock Safety cameras for the region. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BIP-ing, or car break-ins, were also understandably making a lot of residents angry. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The city took action around 2024. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Oakland Police Department eventually signed a contract with Flock Safety for cameras to be installed throughout the city, primarily on freeway entrances and exits. And right now, today, there are 293 Flock cameras in Oakland — specifically, automated license plate readers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock’s ALPRs go way further than the standard traffic cam that tickets drivers for speeding. The cameras automatically capture the license plate of every car that drives by — as well as 6 to 12 images of other identifying information. All of this is used to create what Flock calls: a vehicle fingerprint. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The make and the model of that vehicle, if there is a scrape on the bumper, or if there are bumper stickers on the car — Flock keeps a database of all of that information of every car that passes by the ALPRs. And that database can be used by the law enforcement agencies that contract with Flock to investigate crimes. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock will send officers alerts when a camera captures a vehicle that’s been marked stolen or wanted. Or, the police can search the database to trace a specific vehicle’s movements across the country. Car break-ins in San Francisco have plummeted since 2023. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But whether Flock has any part in that is dubious. The city started cracking down on car break-ins long before it adopted Flock cameras. Still, supporters say that Flock is necessary to prevent crime and catch those who do it. Now, the company says its devices are not equipped to track individual people — but recent expansions have residents concerned. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock also has cameras that are called pan, tilt, and zoom cameras. Those cameras, which are currently being used by the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office, can be used to track pedestrians in addition to vehicles. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All of the data collected by Flock cameras around the country is shared and stored in a massive aggregated database, which can be accessed by anyone in the network. That means that police in Texas can hunt a woman who travels out of state for an abortion, or that ICE agents can ask local police in Illinois to track undocumented families. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Both of these scenarios are real. They’ve already happened. Privacy activists and civil liberties groups are especially worried. Given the Trump administration’s recent immigration crackdown. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People are scared — even putting Flock cameras aside, many immigrants are afraid of immigration enforcement knocking on their doors. We’re hearing a lot of newly arrived immigrants, refugee and asylum seekers, and other vulnerable populations say that they don’t even want to go outside anymore. They don’t even want to go grocery shopping or send their children to school because they’re afraid of ICE coming in and taking them away from their families. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ve been seeing reports of law enforcement agencies and police departments in places outside of California that have shared data with Border Patrol, with U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement, and other federal law enforcement agencies that deal with deporting people. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so a lot of people are understandably afraid. And really concerned about, well, if this technology is continued here in Alameda County, who’s to say that that data is gonna end up in the wrong hands? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A big part of the concern is around data privacy. Flock says it deletes all the information after 30 days. But the company isn’t very transparent about how they handle all of this data. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There have been a lot of concerns from community members I’ve interviewed who say, you know, even if this data is stored in this database for 30 days, what happens after those 30 days? There have just been a whole host of concerns about the type of data that is stored, for how long it’s stored, and who has access to that data before and after it’s retained. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock also says all of this data, and their camera feeds, are encrypted. These assurances fall flat, though. Around the U.S., amateur hackers have been able to get around the company’s security systems. Tech YouTuber Benn Jordan explained how he did it in a video posted last year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @BennJordan on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You may remember me from this video, where I told you about 40,000 of these things that your tax dollars pay for that are tracking your every move and repurposing data collected about you every time that you drive past them. Upon further investigation, it turns out that there are over 80,000 of them — and, um, we got some, and we hacked them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With the help of a cybersecurity expert, Benn was able to hack Flock safety cameras in a whopping 30 seconds. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @BennJordan on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">First thing you’re going to want to do is go ahead and press the button to turn on that police camera. Then press the button on the back a number of times I can’t disclose in this video. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There she is: the Flock wireless access point. Go on and connect. Send a command to enable ADB. Connect. And now you can connect to the Flock Safety device and access its data. Or install whatever the hell you want on it. Have fun! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Apparently, hacking a Flock camera really is that easy. At least, it was when that video was published. And once you’re in, there’s a lot you can do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @BennJordan on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You can clone or decompile the apps. You could send the video stream data to a remote server. You could use it as a botnet client for malware. You could have it capture Wi-Fi handshake credentials and do middleman or honeypot attacks — or replace or modify captured footage or images. And if that is the case, this could bring into question the integrity of the data being used as admissible evidence in court, like, in general. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When these cameras can be hacked and used to spy on people or watch kids, watch everyday people, it really makes you think: how comfortable are we with this type of mass surveillance in our communities? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In a follow-up video, Benn showed how easy it was to find the control panels for Flock’s cameras. 404 Media confirmed that at least 60 of Flock’s Condor cameras — the ones that can pan, zoom, and tilt — were left unsecured on the open internet. That means that the live streams and administrator panels could be accessed by anyone with the right link — no login credentials needed. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With the panels, anyone could download 30 days of archive footage, manually control the cameras, and run diagnostics. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, if Flock cameras can be easily hacked or are left totally unsecured, what does it mean for the troves of data? All the photos, the live feeds, the vehicle fingerprints that are stored on Flock’s cloud servers — how is this data being used, authorized or not? Who can access it? That’s a new tab: How is Flock being misused? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There have been a lot of red flags raised by privacy experts and technology experts who say that Flock doesn’t have enough data privacy safeguards to protect itself from liability, as well as protect community members who may be vulnerable to civil immigration enforcement, or enforcement as it relates to seeking abortions or reproductive health care in states where it’s illegal. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There have been reports of law enforcement using Flock data for both of these purposes — as well as more… personal uses. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ve seen reports from other parts of the country where police officers have used Flock’s database to track down their ex-girlfriends and stalk them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A Wisconsin cop used Flock to stalk his ex-girlfriend and her partner. He submitted 179 database searches for their license plates. In fact, multiple officers have been accused of using Flock’s database to stalk romantic interests — there are at least 21 reported incidents of this in recent years. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, even though we have Flock and law enforcement saying one thing about Flock cameras’ original intent and purpose, there’s always the potential for something to happen where this technology is used beyond its original intent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that’s all assuming that technology is working correctly. What if Flock’s vehicle fingerprint is wrong? Just a few months ago, police stopped a 62-year-old woman in Oakland who was driving to her job at a nursing home. Flock had connected her plates to a “serious crime.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, she exited the vehicle with her hands up, her car registration was in her hand, and she saw these sheriff’s deputies pointing their guns at her — and she was really confused. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so, eventually the sheriff’s deputies told her, “Oh, you might not be the suspect we’re looking for because the license plate reader tracked down your license plate. And we essentially connected your license plate number to a crime that had been committed not that long ago.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What the woman didn’t know was that her plates had been stolen, and replaced with the ones associated with the crime. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She came to the realization, “I’m being treated like I’m a violent criminal.” That could have gone so much worse than it did, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But here’s the thing: Flock flagged a black Honda Civic. This woman drove a silver car. Flock’s “vehicle fingerprint” is supposed to be holistic, taking into account way more details about a car than just its license plates. Were these other details checked before officers made the stop? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It opens up this scary question of: can this happen to me? Can this happen to someone I love, someone I know — completely unsuspecting — who may have had their license plate stolen?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And here’s another issue with this technology: racial bias. Black and Brown communities are already more likely to be overpoliced and are disproportionately targeted for traffic stops. The existing bias is evident in Flock’s search records — law enforcement officials still use racist and derogatory language when they search through Flock’s ALPR database. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And as one study showed, Flock Safety cameras have been found to surveil predominantly Black communities more intensely than white ones. In Virginia’s Hampton Roads area, neighborhoods where at least 50% of residents are Black have four times the number of Flock cameras as majority-white neighborhoods. One of the highest concentrations of cameras is around the only HBCU in the area. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In neighborhoods where Black and Brown people are already overly policed, overly surveilled, and overly criminalized, these cameras can play a big role in terms of the types of enforcement actions police take against these communities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, the company has been long-resistant to efforts to track and log its devices, like in the case of a project called DeFlock. It’s an open-source, community-run tool that identifies and maps the locations of Flock’s cameras. Flock CEO and Co-Founder Garrett Langley is not a fan. Here he is speaking to Forbes again. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip of Garrett’s interview with @Forbes on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Unfortunately, there’s terroristic organizations like DeFlock, whose primary motivation is chaos. They are closer to Antifa than they are anything else. And that, I think, is unfortunate — because we don’t want chaos, or I don’t want chaos. I like law and order, I like a society that has a bedrock of safety. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That interview is from September of last year. A few months later, he sent an unsolicited email to all Flock law enforcement clients. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And in that email, the CEO attacked activist groups who were against Flock. He said that they wanted to normalize lawlessness and let murderers go free. The CEO also called these activists, quote, “terrorists.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This prompted the city of Staunton, Virginia, as well as several others, to officially terminate their contracts. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And in a press release, the police chief of Staunton, Virginia, basically was like, “We will not tolerate this type of rhetoric.” They said, quote, “The city of Staunton wants to make it clear that the Flock Safety CEO’s narrative does not reflect the city’s values.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Langley’s comments also came amid intense debate over local police sharing Flock data with ICE, which is a violation of city policy in some places. Altogether, it was a PR disaster. As of March, at least 30 localities have canceled their contracts with Flock, or deactivated the ALPRs. The city of Dayton, Ohio is still deciding whether to turn off their cameras — so, while they deliberate, they covered them up with trash bags. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Despite all the vocal opposition, Flock has a lot of support from businesses looking to improve public safety around their buildings — whether it’s private companies trying to protect employees in downtown corporate offices, or mom-and-pop shops trying to protect their storefronts. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock Safety cameras have been used by many business leaders and commercial districts throughout the Bay Area to address crime, prevent crime, track down people who may have broken into restaurants, vandalized businesses. So there’s just been a lot of support from large corporations, in addition to local business leaders, who argue that Flock cameras have actually been a really good thing for business, and for the safety of their employees, and customers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But residents are becoming more vocal about their distrust in Flock — in part, because it’s unclear who exactly has access to Flock’s data once it’s collected. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Who’s to say that these law enforcement agencies from other states can also use data from California law enforcement agencies? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How far is this data being shared? Is Flock breaking local laws? One reporter in Palo Alto uncovered a slew of Flock search requests that violated the city’s own policies. We’re getting into that after this break. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But first, we wanted to remind you that Close All Tabs depends on listeners like you to keep us going. You can support us by becoming a member at donate dot kqed dot org slash podcasts. Okay. After the break, Flock’s data breach. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay, we’re back. Let’s open a new tab: The Palo Alto Flock scandal. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People were just as fired up about a pickleball debate a couple of weeks ago in Palo Alto — so there are certain issues that definitely get people to turn out, whether it’s converting a pickleball court or, you know, cameras that are watching your every move when you’re moving about the city. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Riley Cooke is a City Hall reporter at Palo Alto Weekly. Earlier this year, a publication in nearby Mountain View had discovered that the city’s Flock data had been accessed by a slew of outside entities. Riley wanted to find out if the same thing was happening in Palo Alto. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So what I did is I filed a records request for these search audits that Flock and the police department maintain. So, every time a search is conducted, whether by a local officer or by an out-of-state agency, or outside agency at all into Palo Alto — that’s logged in a giant spreadsheet with the time, the date, and the reason for the search. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The request was approved, but at first, the police chief didn’t hand over the specific documents that Riley was looking for. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, I reopened the request and said, “Hey, I actually want these spreadsheets.” And eventually they gave them to me in March. And my editor was- he was out on some, like, coffee chat with a source, and so I was blowing up his texts, like, “We got the ALPR records, we’ve got them.” And it’s thousands and thousands of pages that detail every single search: the time, the date, who conducted it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The search records revealed that police departments from all over the country were also searching Palo Alto’s Flock data, without the permission of the city, or the Palo Alto Police Department. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The police department told me that they didn’t actually access any of the data or download it, but Palo Alto’s cameras still appeared in search results from, you know, Mississippi, Illinois — basically all 50 states, including some federal agencies, such as the ATF. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">ATF is short for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Riley’s reporting shows that, for about a year and a half, tens of thousands of searches from outside agencies were performed in Palo Alto. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think my hope with doing that was to sort of beg the question of: what do these agencies have anything to do with Palo Alto? Or why is Palo Alto’s ALPR data appearing in search results by, you know, police departments from halfway across the country? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is actually super illegal. California law prohibits the sharing of ALPR data with out-of-state and federal agencies — and this has been the case since 2016. The Palo Alto Police Department told Riley that they didn’t know the city had been opted into the national lookup feature. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, they went above and beyond existing California law about not sharing with any out-of-state or federal agencies. And, what my reporting shows is that Flock was still able to bypass those without telling anybody. They didn’t tell the police department, they didn’t tell city officials, they just quietly rolled out this nationwide data-sharing effort, which completely went past local and California regulations. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think city officials were really confident at first that they had enacted these protections, that they were protecting residents and heeding those surveillance concerns. And yet, at the end of the day, the company still did what they wanted to do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It begs the question: why did Flock bypass the police department and make this data available nationwide? And what is the point of privacy protections if Flock can just access the data and share it anyway? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Recently there’s been hundreds of people turning out to city government meetings to protest the Flock contract and urging Palo Alto to do what neighboring cities have done, which is to shut down the cameras or terminate their contract with Flock. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Now, thanks to Riley’s reporting, the Palo Alto Police Department is proactively sharing license plate search logs on its website. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, everyone’s able to go and find that information on their own, and can verify that no out-of-state or illegal searches are being performed. I don’t know any other city that’s currently doing that by practically publishing those, so I think that’s pretty cool. And Palo Alto is also auditing its Flock contract. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The consulting firm in charge of the Flock audit — called the OIR Group — has managed to hold Palo Alto’s cops accountable in the past — like standardizing bodycam usage. Will these data protections do anything, though? Riley says that residents are concerned that Flock could easily disregard them and go over the city again, like it did in Mountain View. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They don’t like that they were lied to. And so, I think a lot of residents had their suspicions about this, couldn’t exactly confirm that it was happening in Palo Alto, and my reporting was just — again, that confirmation that they were looking for. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Riley said the Palo Alto Police Department will probably listen to resident demands for greater transparency around Flock. But, even if the city gets rid of Flock cameras, law enforcement will likely still use ALPRs. If not Flock’s, then another company’s. There’s nationwide pushback against Flock — are these community efforts going anywhere though? Let’s open one last tab: can Flock be stopped? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’re heading back to Alameda County, where Oakland is partnering with Flock to operate nearly 300 ALPRs throughout the city. But organizers remain committed to protesting the contracts. Roselyn Romero, the Oaklandside reporter from earlier, pointed out that Alameda County has a history of social movements. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because of Alameda County’s location, situated where all of these technological and AI advancements are originated, and the fact that Alameda County is home to many social justice movements over the years — I’m thinking about the Black Panther Party in Oakland, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of these social justice movements, racial justice movements, and activists are also on the side of: we shouldn’t have Flock in our communities, and why are we continuing to expand these sorts of police technologies in our neighborhoods, when there are already so many community members who are vulnerable and afraid? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So I think it speaks to this crucial moment in Alameda County of: everybody agrees that Flock Safety’s cameras are really powerful. It’s just- now, the debate is: what to use that power for, how comfortable we are with that power, and where we see our society going with this type of powerful tool in our communities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In California, organizers have actually made real progress in stopping Flock — or getting it removed. Santa Cruz was the first city to turn off its cameras. Mountain View, South Pasadena, El Cerrito, Campbell, Oxnard, and other California cities followed. And, like we talked about earlier, some residents have taken matters into their own hands. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In Oakland, we’ve seen people paintbombing these Flock cameras, where cameras in Oakland have just been splashed with paint and vandalized, if you will. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And beyond the concerns about Flock’s capabilities, the company’s services are expensive. Flock contracts add up to millions of dollars. And this has many residents questioning how else this funding could be used. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When crime is at near historic lows, why are we continuing to put more money and more power into these powerful technologies? Right now, the Oakland City Council is debating its budget for the next fiscal year. And, we’re seeing all of these programs for violence prevention and for other community events being cut. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of community members are saying, “Why are we continuing to invest in police technologies and surveillance tools when we could instead allocate that money toward, say, health care or childhood education — early childhood education — more social programs for people who really need it during the summertime, or homelessness services?” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s a really interesting and seemingly endless debate that we’re seeing in Oakland and Alameda County and across the country. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alameda County Supervisor David Haubert: \u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[bangs gavel] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We have to take a vote on this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in April, at the Alameda Board of Supervisors meeting, the board voted in favor of extending the Flock contract until July 1st. That’s despite the vocal pushback from residents. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Protesters outside of budget meeting]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Get Flock off our block! Get Flock off our block! Get Flock off our block! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Last Tuesday — the day before the contract expired —the Alameda Board of Supervisors once again voted to extend Flock’s contract… This time, until the end of next year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alameda County Supervisor David Haubert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So that motion passes. We’re not entertaining comments from the gallery. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Once that’s up, the County Sheriff’s Office will have the opportunity to look for alternative vendors: surveillance tech companies that offer the same services as Flock. There are about a dozen or so competitors that could replace Flock cameras. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, even if the board votes to end its contract, this larger question still exists: Does mass surveillance of people who aren’t suspected of a crime violate their Fourth Amendment right to privacy? Is that worth giving up in the name of public safety? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This debate is not unique to the Bay Area. We’re seeing — at the federal level — President Donald Trump’s mass deportation agenda playing out in full force. What does that say about the type of surveillance, technology, and society that we want to have here in the Bay Area? What does that say about the types of companies and values we want to support and continue funding, not just at the national level, but even here, in our own communities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This debate gets at the heart of the right to privacy, guaranteed by the Constitution, but chipped away at every year. Communities across the country have made it clear that they oppose the partnerships between surveillance tech companies and the government. Will city leaders listen? Who knows? But paintbombing Flock cameras is a growing trend. And, as we’ve seen from other incidents across the country, people will find alternative — and creative —ways to make their anger heard. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s it for today’s deep dive. But, as usual, stick around after the credits for bonus content. And if you’re dying to open more tabs about Flock Safety and all of its controversies, check out our show notes. We have some further reading there. But for now, let’s close all these tabs. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Close All Tabs is a production of KQED Studios, and it’s reported and hosted by me, Morgan Sung. This episode was produced and field-reported by Maya Cueva. It was edited by Chris Egusa, who also composed our theme song and credits music. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Close All Tabs team also includes editor Chris Hambrick and audio engineer, Brendan Willard. Additional music by APM. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Audience and engagement support from Maha Sanad. Jen Chien is our Director of Podcasts and Ethan Toven-Lindsey is our Editor-in-Chief. 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On the other: residents and advocates worried about a creeping surveillance state and the myriad security issues Flock has already been exposed for.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Morgan talks to Bay Area reporters Roselyn Romero and Riley Cooke about the fight over Flock spreading throughout the region, what we still don’t know about how Flock’s data is used and how some residents are finding creative ways to push back.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC6560783367\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guests:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/author/roselyn-romero/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Roselyn Romero\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, public safety journalist at \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Oaklandside \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ci>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://www.paloaltoonline.com/author/rcookeembarcaderopublishing-com/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Riley Cooke\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, reporter at \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Palo Alto Weekly \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Further Reading/Listening:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0gr7Fh6lY\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We Hacked Flock Safety Cameras in under 30 Seconds \u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">— Benn Jordan, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Youtube \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://sanjosespotlight.com/palo-alto-license-plate-data-searched-by-hundreds-of-out-of-state-agencies/\">Palo Alto license plate data searched by hundreds of out-of-state agencies\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — Riley Cooke, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>Palo Alto Weekly\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/2026/05/28/flock-training-police-city-councils-webinar/\">Flock is quietly training Bay Area police to sway city leaders to buy surveillance tech\u003c/a>\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — Roselyn Romero, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ci>The Oaklandside \u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.404media.co/flock-exposed-its-ai-powered-cameras-to-the-internet-we-tracked-ourselves/\">Flock Exposed Its AI-Powered Cameras to the Internet. 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But it was unusually packed, thanks to one agenda item: approving a contract extension for Flock Safety cameras. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This would allow the controversial surveillance tech company to continue running its network of AI-powered license plate readers throughout the county — including unincorporated areas outside of cities like Oakland and Berkeley. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The contract expired last summer. If approved, the extension would buy another three months of Flock surveillance. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The room was packed with residents, from Oakland to Castro Valley. Even more attended virtually to give comments. More than a hundred residents spoke during the meeting. Close All Tabs producer, Maya Cueva, was on the scene. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Narayan: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Good evening. I urge you to reject Flock’s $854,000 contract extension. This isn’t a camera system, it’s a mass surveillance network that will track every single one of us, making a searchable database that tracks our movements. You guys say you care about immigrant communities, but this system puts them directly in danger. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock’s license plate readers have become a flashpoint for a debate across the country — not just in the Bay Area. On one side: law enforcement and their supporters, who say the cameras reduce crime and improve public safety. On the other: residents and advocates who are concerned about a creeping surveillance state, an erosion of the right to privacy, and the myriad security issues Flock has already been exposed for. Alameda County residents of all ages have been fighting against Flock in their neighborhoods for a while. And some aren’t even able to vote yet. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Narayan: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hi, my name’s Narayan. I’m 17. I go by he/him pronouns, and I’m from East Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kaylyn: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hello, my names Kaylyn. I’m 17 years old, and I live in Oakland. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Tyson: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My name is Tyson, I’m 18, he/him pronouns, and I live in Albany. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Narayan: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m here to stop the implementation and extending of a Flock contract in my county. Flock is a multi-billion dollar corporation that is focused on hyper surveillance of people, and we’ve already seen that it is in the wrong hands. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Three years ago, Alameda County leaders approved a contract to install 100 plate readers throughout the county. Berkeley has just over 30, and Oakland recently approved a $2 million contract for nearly 300 more cameras in the city. Other residents have been speaking out about the issue for years now. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Manny: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’ve been fighting Flock since 2023, but now it’s a lot more in the cultural zeitgeist. A lot of people have become a lot aware of the surveillance systems that are being used to surveil them, to watch and kidnap their community members. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ramesh Sridharan: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We don’t want mass surveillance. We should be investing in communities. We should be spending our money on that as opposed to programs like Flock, which contribute to a surveillance state and have no evidence of actually reducing crime. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But some residents spoke in support of extending Flock’s contract. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Robert Battinich: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was raised in San Leandro for 25 years. I own property in San Leandro and I’ve been robbed 24 times. Recently, they put Flock cameras in San Leandro, and it seems to be that they haven’t been breaking in. So, please vote “yes” on renewing the contract with the Flock cameras. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The board of supervisors kept calling for decorum when attendees clapped for anti-Flock speakers. So one resident used his allotted time to scold the board. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ralph Brown: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, it seems like a majority of you are just ready to reject the overwhelming majority of your residents who are telling you to vote “no” on this contract, not spend $300,000 plus more dollars to extend this contract and basically just say- tell us to go fuck ourselves, is what I’m hearing from you. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The meeting lasted hours — and after all that, the board of supervisors voted 3-2 in favor of extending the contract. Protests broke out. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Protesters outside of budget meeting]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Get Flock off our block! Get Flock off our block! Get Flock off our block! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The backlash we’re seeing against Flock in Alameda County is part of a bigger nationwide fight against normalizing mass surveillance. Flock vandalism is up across the country. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @wwmtnews on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Kalamazoo County Sheriff’s Office says someone intentionally cut down a Flock license plate reader camera along D Avenue in Cooper Township. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @WHAS11News on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Auburn normally has 12 in the city, now they’re down two. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @tmj4 on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Take a close look at this automatic license plate reading camera, and you’ll notice gold paint covering the lens. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People have put stickers over the cameras’ lenses, covered them with trash bags, paintbombed entire devices, and joked online about pointing lasers at the cameras to destroy the sensors. In Oregon, someone cut down six poles holding Flock cameras, leaving a note that said, quote, “Hahaha get wrecked you surveilling fucks.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @KEZI9News on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No arrests have been made in either jurisdiction, but this is considered criminal mischief. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s local news station KEZI 9, which actually broadcasted the uncensored note. But aside from resorting to “criminal mischief,” how else are people fighting the installation of these cameras in their neighborhoods? Today, we’re digging into the heated debate around Flock cameras: what exactly they’re doing with your data and why this might matter more than you think. Ready? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is Close All Tabs. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Morgan Sung, tech journalist, and your chronically online friend, here to open as many browser tabs as it takes to help you understand how the digital world affects our real lives. Let’s get into it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Automated license plate readers, or ALPRs, have been rapidly rolled out by cities and communities around the country, with Flock Safety’s tech at the lead. Before we get any deeper into this, we need to talk about what Flock actually is — and how it was adopted so quickly. Let’s open a new tab: Why is Flock so controversial? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Let’s get into the origin story. So, Flock Safety is based in Atlanta, Georgia. It operates a whole host of surveillance devices: cameras, drones, and, importantly, for this story, ALPRs. Back in 2017, this Georgia Tech alum, Garrett Langley, noticed the uptake in break-ins around his Atlanta neighborhood. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Police told him that grainy surveillance camera footage was actually unhelpful, and what they really needed to find perpetrators were license plates. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, Garrett called up two of his college buddies. Together, they worked on a prototype camera that could record and share what he called “evidence,” not just footage. Here he is speaking to Forbes last year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip of Garrett’s interview with @Forbes on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, it’s pretty wild. At the end of ’17, we were sitting at my dining room table in Atlanta, building cameras by hand. And now, today, we’re in a roughly 100,000 square foot facility building cameras, building trailers, building drones — all right here in Georgia, which is pretty fun. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Fun” is certainly one way to put it. This entrepreneurial, neighborly concern has grown into an operation of at least 90,000 cameras nationwide, scanning over 20 billion license plates per month. Over 1,000 private businesses have also installed the cameras, adding to Flock’s massive surveillance database. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In Oakland, the push for installing Flock’s ALPRs was fueled by local frustration over BIP-ing — you know, breaking into a parked car and looting whatever’s inside. Here’s Roselyn Romero, a reporter for the independent local news outlet, The Oaklandside. She’s been covering Flock Safety cameras for the region. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BIP-ing, or car break-ins, were also understandably making a lot of residents angry. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The city took action around 2024. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Oakland Police Department eventually signed a contract with Flock Safety for cameras to be installed throughout the city, primarily on freeway entrances and exits. And right now, today, there are 293 Flock cameras in Oakland — specifically, automated license plate readers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock’s ALPRs go way further than the standard traffic cam that tickets drivers for speeding. The cameras automatically capture the license plate of every car that drives by — as well as 6 to 12 images of other identifying information. All of this is used to create what Flock calls: a vehicle fingerprint. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The make and the model of that vehicle, if there is a scrape on the bumper, or if there are bumper stickers on the car — Flock keeps a database of all of that information of every car that passes by the ALPRs. And that database can be used by the law enforcement agencies that contract with Flock to investigate crimes. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock will send officers alerts when a camera captures a vehicle that’s been marked stolen or wanted. Or, the police can search the database to trace a specific vehicle’s movements across the country. Car break-ins in San Francisco have plummeted since 2023. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But whether Flock has any part in that is dubious. The city started cracking down on car break-ins long before it adopted Flock cameras. Still, supporters say that Flock is necessary to prevent crime and catch those who do it. Now, the company says its devices are not equipped to track individual people — but recent expansions have residents concerned. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock also has cameras that are called pan, tilt, and zoom cameras. Those cameras, which are currently being used by the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office, can be used to track pedestrians in addition to vehicles. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All of the data collected by Flock cameras around the country is shared and stored in a massive aggregated database, which can be accessed by anyone in the network. That means that police in Texas can hunt a woman who travels out of state for an abortion, or that ICE agents can ask local police in Illinois to track undocumented families. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Both of these scenarios are real. They’ve already happened. Privacy activists and civil liberties groups are especially worried. Given the Trump administration’s recent immigration crackdown. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People are scared — even putting Flock cameras aside, many immigrants are afraid of immigration enforcement knocking on their doors. We’re hearing a lot of newly arrived immigrants, refugee and asylum seekers, and other vulnerable populations say that they don’t even want to go outside anymore. They don’t even want to go grocery shopping or send their children to school because they’re afraid of ICE coming in and taking them away from their families. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ve been seeing reports of law enforcement agencies and police departments in places outside of California that have shared data with Border Patrol, with U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement, and other federal law enforcement agencies that deal with deporting people. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so a lot of people are understandably afraid. And really concerned about, well, if this technology is continued here in Alameda County, who’s to say that that data is gonna end up in the wrong hands? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A big part of the concern is around data privacy. Flock says it deletes all the information after 30 days. But the company isn’t very transparent about how they handle all of this data. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There have been a lot of concerns from community members I’ve interviewed who say, you know, even if this data is stored in this database for 30 days, what happens after those 30 days? There have just been a whole host of concerns about the type of data that is stored, for how long it’s stored, and who has access to that data before and after it’s retained. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock also says all of this data, and their camera feeds, are encrypted. These assurances fall flat, though. Around the U.S., amateur hackers have been able to get around the company’s security systems. Tech YouTuber Benn Jordan explained how he did it in a video posted last year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @BennJordan on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You may remember me from this video, where I told you about 40,000 of these things that your tax dollars pay for that are tracking your every move and repurposing data collected about you every time that you drive past them. Upon further investigation, it turns out that there are over 80,000 of them — and, um, we got some, and we hacked them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With the help of a cybersecurity expert, Benn was able to hack Flock safety cameras in a whopping 30 seconds. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @BennJordan on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">First thing you’re going to want to do is go ahead and press the button to turn on that police camera. Then press the button on the back a number of times I can’t disclose in this video. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There she is: the Flock wireless access point. Go on and connect. Send a command to enable ADB. Connect. And now you can connect to the Flock Safety device and access its data. Or install whatever the hell you want on it. Have fun! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Apparently, hacking a Flock camera really is that easy. At least, it was when that video was published. And once you’re in, there’s a lot you can do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip from @BennJordan on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You can clone or decompile the apps. You could send the video stream data to a remote server. You could use it as a botnet client for malware. You could have it capture Wi-Fi handshake credentials and do middleman or honeypot attacks — or replace or modify captured footage or images. And if that is the case, this could bring into question the integrity of the data being used as admissible evidence in court, like, in general. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When these cameras can be hacked and used to spy on people or watch kids, watch everyday people, it really makes you think: how comfortable are we with this type of mass surveillance in our communities? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In a follow-up video, Benn showed how easy it was to find the control panels for Flock’s cameras. 404 Media confirmed that at least 60 of Flock’s Condor cameras — the ones that can pan, zoom, and tilt — were left unsecured on the open internet. That means that the live streams and administrator panels could be accessed by anyone with the right link — no login credentials needed. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">With the panels, anyone could download 30 days of archive footage, manually control the cameras, and run diagnostics. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, if Flock cameras can be easily hacked or are left totally unsecured, what does it mean for the troves of data? All the photos, the live feeds, the vehicle fingerprints that are stored on Flock’s cloud servers — how is this data being used, authorized or not? Who can access it? That’s a new tab: How is Flock being misused? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There have been a lot of red flags raised by privacy experts and technology experts who say that Flock doesn’t have enough data privacy safeguards to protect itself from liability, as well as protect community members who may be vulnerable to civil immigration enforcement, or enforcement as it relates to seeking abortions or reproductive health care in states where it’s illegal. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There have been reports of law enforcement using Flock data for both of these purposes — as well as more… personal uses. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ve seen reports from other parts of the country where police officers have used Flock’s database to track down their ex-girlfriends and stalk them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A Wisconsin cop used Flock to stalk his ex-girlfriend and her partner. He submitted 179 database searches for their license plates. In fact, multiple officers have been accused of using Flock’s database to stalk romantic interests — there are at least 21 reported incidents of this in recent years. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, even though we have Flock and law enforcement saying one thing about Flock cameras’ original intent and purpose, there’s always the potential for something to happen where this technology is used beyond its original intent. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that’s all assuming that technology is working correctly. What if Flock’s vehicle fingerprint is wrong? Just a few months ago, police stopped a 62-year-old woman in Oakland who was driving to her job at a nursing home. Flock had connected her plates to a “serious crime.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, she exited the vehicle with her hands up, her car registration was in her hand, and she saw these sheriff’s deputies pointing their guns at her — and she was really confused. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so, eventually the sheriff’s deputies told her, “Oh, you might not be the suspect we’re looking for because the license plate reader tracked down your license plate. And we essentially connected your license plate number to a crime that had been committed not that long ago.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What the woman didn’t know was that her plates had been stolen, and replaced with the ones associated with the crime. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She came to the realization, “I’m being treated like I’m a violent criminal.” That could have gone so much worse than it did, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But here’s the thing: Flock flagged a black Honda Civic. This woman drove a silver car. Flock’s “vehicle fingerprint” is supposed to be holistic, taking into account way more details about a car than just its license plates. Were these other details checked before officers made the stop? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It opens up this scary question of: can this happen to me? Can this happen to someone I love, someone I know — completely unsuspecting — who may have had their license plate stolen?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And here’s another issue with this technology: racial bias. Black and Brown communities are already more likely to be overpoliced and are disproportionately targeted for traffic stops. The existing bias is evident in Flock’s search records — law enforcement officials still use racist and derogatory language when they search through Flock’s ALPR database. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And as one study showed, Flock Safety cameras have been found to surveil predominantly Black communities more intensely than white ones. In Virginia’s Hampton Roads area, neighborhoods where at least 50% of residents are Black have four times the number of Flock cameras as majority-white neighborhoods. One of the highest concentrations of cameras is around the only HBCU in the area. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In neighborhoods where Black and Brown people are already overly policed, overly surveilled, and overly criminalized, these cameras can play a big role in terms of the types of enforcement actions police take against these communities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, the company has been long-resistant to efforts to track and log its devices, like in the case of a project called DeFlock. It’s an open-source, community-run tool that identifies and maps the locations of Flock’s cameras. Flock CEO and Co-Founder Garrett Langley is not a fan. Here he is speaking to Forbes again. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Clip of Garrett’s interview with @Forbes on YouTube]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Unfortunately, there’s terroristic organizations like DeFlock, whose primary motivation is chaos. They are closer to Antifa than they are anything else. And that, I think, is unfortunate — because we don’t want chaos, or I don’t want chaos. I like law and order, I like a society that has a bedrock of safety. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That interview is from September of last year. A few months later, he sent an unsolicited email to all Flock law enforcement clients. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And in that email, the CEO attacked activist groups who were against Flock. He said that they wanted to normalize lawlessness and let murderers go free. The CEO also called these activists, quote, “terrorists.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This prompted the city of Staunton, Virginia, as well as several others, to officially terminate their contracts. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And in a press release, the police chief of Staunton, Virginia, basically was like, “We will not tolerate this type of rhetoric.” They said, quote, “The city of Staunton wants to make it clear that the Flock Safety CEO’s narrative does not reflect the city’s values.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Langley’s comments also came amid intense debate over local police sharing Flock data with ICE, which is a violation of city policy in some places. Altogether, it was a PR disaster. As of March, at least 30 localities have canceled their contracts with Flock, or deactivated the ALPRs. The city of Dayton, Ohio is still deciding whether to turn off their cameras — so, while they deliberate, they covered them up with trash bags. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Despite all the vocal opposition, Flock has a lot of support from businesses looking to improve public safety around their buildings — whether it’s private companies trying to protect employees in downtown corporate offices, or mom-and-pop shops trying to protect their storefronts. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Flock Safety cameras have been used by many business leaders and commercial districts throughout the Bay Area to address crime, prevent crime, track down people who may have broken into restaurants, vandalized businesses. So there’s just been a lot of support from large corporations, in addition to local business leaders, who argue that Flock cameras have actually been a really good thing for business, and for the safety of their employees, and customers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But residents are becoming more vocal about their distrust in Flock — in part, because it’s unclear who exactly has access to Flock’s data once it’s collected. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Who’s to say that these law enforcement agencies from other states can also use data from California law enforcement agencies? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How far is this data being shared? Is Flock breaking local laws? One reporter in Palo Alto uncovered a slew of Flock search requests that violated the city’s own policies. We’re getting into that after this break. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But first, we wanted to remind you that Close All Tabs depends on listeners like you to keep us going. You can support us by becoming a member at donate dot kqed dot org slash podcasts. Okay. After the break, Flock’s data breach. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Okay, we’re back. Let’s open a new tab: The Palo Alto Flock scandal. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">People were just as fired up about a pickleball debate a couple of weeks ago in Palo Alto — so there are certain issues that definitely get people to turn out, whether it’s converting a pickleball court or, you know, cameras that are watching your every move when you’re moving about the city. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Riley Cooke is a City Hall reporter at Palo Alto Weekly. Earlier this year, a publication in nearby Mountain View had discovered that the city’s Flock data had been accessed by a slew of outside entities. Riley wanted to find out if the same thing was happening in Palo Alto. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So what I did is I filed a records request for these search audits that Flock and the police department maintain. So, every time a search is conducted, whether by a local officer or by an out-of-state agency, or outside agency at all into Palo Alto — that’s logged in a giant spreadsheet with the time, the date, and the reason for the search. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The request was approved, but at first, the police chief didn’t hand over the specific documents that Riley was looking for. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, I reopened the request and said, “Hey, I actually want these spreadsheets.” And eventually they gave them to me in March. And my editor was- he was out on some, like, coffee chat with a source, and so I was blowing up his texts, like, “We got the ALPR records, we’ve got them.” And it’s thousands and thousands of pages that detail every single search: the time, the date, who conducted it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The search records revealed that police departments from all over the country were also searching Palo Alto’s Flock data, without the permission of the city, or the Palo Alto Police Department. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The police department told me that they didn’t actually access any of the data or download it, but Palo Alto’s cameras still appeared in search results from, you know, Mississippi, Illinois — basically all 50 states, including some federal agencies, such as the ATF. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">ATF is short for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Riley’s reporting shows that, for about a year and a half, tens of thousands of searches from outside agencies were performed in Palo Alto. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think my hope with doing that was to sort of beg the question of: what do these agencies have anything to do with Palo Alto? Or why is Palo Alto’s ALPR data appearing in search results by, you know, police departments from halfway across the country? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is actually super illegal. California law prohibits the sharing of ALPR data with out-of-state and federal agencies — and this has been the case since 2016. The Palo Alto Police Department told Riley that they didn’t know the city had been opted into the national lookup feature. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, they went above and beyond existing California law about not sharing with any out-of-state or federal agencies. And, what my reporting shows is that Flock was still able to bypass those without telling anybody. They didn’t tell the police department, they didn’t tell city officials, they just quietly rolled out this nationwide data-sharing effort, which completely went past local and California regulations. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think city officials were really confident at first that they had enacted these protections, that they were protecting residents and heeding those surveillance concerns. And yet, at the end of the day, the company still did what they wanted to do. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It begs the question: why did Flock bypass the police department and make this data available nationwide? And what is the point of privacy protections if Flock can just access the data and share it anyway? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Recently there’s been hundreds of people turning out to city government meetings to protest the Flock contract and urging Palo Alto to do what neighboring cities have done, which is to shut down the cameras or terminate their contract with Flock. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Now, thanks to Riley’s reporting, the Palo Alto Police Department is proactively sharing license plate search logs on its website. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, everyone’s able to go and find that information on their own, and can verify that no out-of-state or illegal searches are being performed. I don’t know any other city that’s currently doing that by practically publishing those, so I think that’s pretty cool. And Palo Alto is also auditing its Flock contract. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The consulting firm in charge of the Flock audit — called the OIR Group — has managed to hold Palo Alto’s cops accountable in the past — like standardizing bodycam usage. Will these data protections do anything, though? Riley says that residents are concerned that Flock could easily disregard them and go over the city again, like it did in Mountain View. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They don’t like that they were lied to. And so, I think a lot of residents had their suspicions about this, couldn’t exactly confirm that it was happening in Palo Alto, and my reporting was just — again, that confirmation that they were looking for. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Riley said the Palo Alto Police Department will probably listen to resident demands for greater transparency around Flock. But, even if the city gets rid of Flock cameras, law enforcement will likely still use ALPRs. If not Flock’s, then another company’s. There’s nationwide pushback against Flock — are these community efforts going anywhere though? Let’s open one last tab: can Flock be stopped? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’re heading back to Alameda County, where Oakland is partnering with Flock to operate nearly 300 ALPRs throughout the city. But organizers remain committed to protesting the contracts. Roselyn Romero, the Oaklandside reporter from earlier, pointed out that Alameda County has a history of social movements. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because of Alameda County’s location, situated where all of these technological and AI advancements are originated, and the fact that Alameda County is home to many social justice movements over the years — I’m thinking about the Black Panther Party in Oakland, right? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of these social justice movements, racial justice movements, and activists are also on the side of: we shouldn’t have Flock in our communities, and why are we continuing to expand these sorts of police technologies in our neighborhoods, when there are already so many community members who are vulnerable and afraid? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So I think it speaks to this crucial moment in Alameda County of: everybody agrees that Flock Safety’s cameras are really powerful. It’s just- now, the debate is: what to use that power for, how comfortable we are with that power, and where we see our society going with this type of powerful tool in our communities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In California, organizers have actually made real progress in stopping Flock — or getting it removed. Santa Cruz was the first city to turn off its cameras. Mountain View, South Pasadena, El Cerrito, Campbell, Oxnard, and other California cities followed. And, like we talked about earlier, some residents have taken matters into their own hands. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In Oakland, we’ve seen people paintbombing these Flock cameras, where cameras in Oakland have just been splashed with paint and vandalized, if you will. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And beyond the concerns about Flock’s capabilities, the company’s services are expensive. Flock contracts add up to millions of dollars. And this has many residents questioning how else this funding could be used. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When crime is at near historic lows, why are we continuing to put more money and more power into these powerful technologies? Right now, the Oakland City Council is debating its budget for the next fiscal year. And, we’re seeing all of these programs for violence prevention and for other community events being cut. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A lot of community members are saying, “Why are we continuing to invest in police technologies and surveillance tools when we could instead allocate that money toward, say, health care or childhood education — early childhood education — more social programs for people who really need it during the summertime, or homelessness services?” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s a really interesting and seemingly endless debate that we’re seeing in Oakland and Alameda County and across the country. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alameda County Supervisor David Haubert: \u003c/b>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[bangs gavel] \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We have to take a vote on this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Back in April, at the Alameda Board of Supervisors meeting, the board voted in favor of extending the Flock contract until July 1st. That’s despite the vocal pushback from residents. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>[Protesters outside of budget meeting]: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Get Flock off our block! Get Flock off our block! Get Flock off our block! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Last Tuesday — the day before the contract expired —the Alameda Board of Supervisors once again voted to extend Flock’s contract… This time, until the end of next year. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alameda County Supervisor David Haubert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So that motion passes. We’re not entertaining comments from the gallery. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Once that’s up, the County Sheriff’s Office will have the opportunity to look for alternative vendors: surveillance tech companies that offer the same services as Flock. There are about a dozen or so competitors that could replace Flock cameras. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, even if the board votes to end its contract, this larger question still exists: Does mass surveillance of people who aren’t suspected of a crime violate their Fourth Amendment right to privacy? Is that worth giving up in the name of public safety? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Roselyn Romero: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This debate is not unique to the Bay Area. We’re seeing — at the federal level — President Donald Trump’s mass deportation agenda playing out in full force. What does that say about the type of surveillance, technology, and society that we want to have here in the Bay Area? What does that say about the types of companies and values we want to support and continue funding, not just at the national level, but even here, in our own communities. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Morgan Sung: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This debate gets at the heart of the right to privacy, guaranteed by the Constitution, but chipped away at every year. Communities across the country have made it clear that they oppose the partnerships between surveillance tech companies and the government. Will city leaders listen? Who knows? But paintbombing Flock cameras is a growing trend. And, as we’ve seen from other incidents across the country, people will find alternative — and creative —ways to make their anger heard. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s it for today’s deep dive. But, as usual, stick around after the credits for bonus content. And if you’re dying to open more tabs about Flock Safety and all of its controversies, check out our show notes. We have some further reading there. But for now, let’s close all these tabs. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Close All Tabs is a production of KQED Studios, and it’s reported and hosted by me, Morgan Sung. This episode was produced and field-reported by Maya Cueva. It was edited by Chris Egusa, who also composed our theme song and credits music. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Close All Tabs team also includes editor Chris Hambrick and audio engineer, Brendan Willard. Additional music by APM. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Audience and engagement support from Maha Sanad. Jen Chien is our Director of Podcasts and Ethan Toven-Lindsey is our Editor-in-Chief. Some members of the KQED Podcast team are represented by the Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, San Francisco, Northern California Local. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This episode’s keyboard sounds were submitted by Alex Tran and recorded on his white Epomaker Hi75 keyboard with Fogruaden red samurai keycaps and materon Milky yellow pro v2 switches. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This episode includes clips from WWMT News, WHAS-11, TMJ4 News, KEZI 9, Benn Jordan, and Forbes. Special thanks to Rosalyn Romero and Riley Cooke, and everyone we spoke to at the Alameda County Board of Supervisors meeting. Thanks for listening! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Riley Cooke: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For the past couple of months, it’s mostly been organized demonstrations, and there’s been a sign that’s been going around that says, “GTFO: Get the Flock Out,” which I think is pretty funny. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>"
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"content": "\u003cp>A San Francisco jury \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12086262/san-franciscos-case-against-pro-palestinian-activists-who-blocked-bridge-heads-to-jury\">failed to reach a unanimous decision\u003c/a> on whether protesters who blocked traffic on the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/golden-gate-bridge\">Golden Gate Bridge\u003c/a> in 2024 are guilty of felony conspiracy, charges that could have resulted in more than a decade-long prison sentence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The jury found the seven Bay Area activists — Bhavika Anandpura, River Allen, Sara Cantor, Rocky Chau, Conrad de Jesus, Sarah Ferrell and Em Tillotson — guilty of multiple misdemeanors, including four counts of false imprisonment, obstructing a thoroughfare and unlawful assembly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cantor, who acted as a liaison between police and protesters on the day of the incident, was also found guilty of refusal to disperse at a riot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After the verdict was read, supporters, including some who were crying, flooded out of the packed courthouse, chanting “Free Palestine” and “No justice, no peace.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Attorneys for the protesters had not disputed that their clients brought Golden Gate Bridge traffic to a standstill for hours on Tax Day in 2024, but argued that they believed their actions were legally protected because they were “necessary” to save the lives of Palestinians in Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Today remains a victory,” public defender Nuha Abusamra said, following the verdict. “We do not fight solely to win. We fight for the resistance.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12089809\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12089809\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260702-GGBVerdict-05-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260702-GGBVerdict-05-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260702-GGBVerdict-05-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260702-GGBVerdict-05-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Manan Kocher gathers with supporters during a rally outside a courtroom at the Superior Court of California in San Francisco on July 2, 2026, after a jury deadlocked on a felony conspiracy charge against seven protesters accused of blocking the Golden Gate Bridge during a 2024 protest against the war in Gaza. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Taking a bridge and blocking traffic for a few hours years ago is the bare minimum that we should be doing as American citizens while our tax dollars continue to fund the mass genocide of Palestinians,” she continued. “We will all go home and sleep safely in our homes. But Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank and the occupied territories, they will not … And that is why we will keep fighting.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The demonstration was part of an international movement protesting the U.S.’s involvement in Israel’s recent military incursion in the region.[aside postID=news_12089634 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/GlockBanCaliforniaGetty.jpg']Activists also shut down traffic on Interstate-880 in Oakland, and staged similar protests in San Diego, Seattle, Philadelphia, San Antonio, Chicago and across Mexico, Vietnam and Australia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group of protesters, part of a larger cohort nicknamed the “Golden Gate 26,” chained themselves to parked cars and each other in the southbound lanes of the bridge beginning at 7:30 a.m. on April 15, causing a significant traffic backup as commuters tried to travel into San Francisco from the North Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Others, who participated in the demonstration by holding banners and blocking traffic but did not link themselves together, had charges against them dropped or reduced after many agreed to a diversion program, which included paying restitution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Defense attorneys said the protesters had tried expressing their concern through less disruptive means, like calling their local representatives and participating in marches.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the time, as Israel was weighing whether to invade Rafah, a city along Gaza’s southern border where 1 million displaced Palestinians were seeking refuge, they believed the escalation was necessary to save lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12089844\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12089844\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260702-GGBVERDICTPRESSCONF-09-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260702-GGBVERDICTPRESSCONF-09-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260702-GGBVERDICTPRESSCONF-09-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260702-GGBVERDICTPRESSCONF-09-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">River Allen speaks during a press conference on the steps of City Hall in San Francisco on July 2, 2026, after a jury deadlocked on a felony conspiracy charge against seven protesters accused of blocking the Golden Gate Bridge during a 2024 protest against the war in Gaza. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>After weeks of deliberation, the jury said it could not come to unanimous decisions on the most serious conspiracy charge or misdemeanor trespassing with the intent to interfere with business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The foreperson of the jury told the court Thursday that they took at least six votes on the conspiracy charge, which usually ended in a 10-to-2 vote split, with the majority of jurors finding the protesters guilty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a misdemeanor trespassing charge, all but one of the jurors leaned toward finding the group not guilty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Protester River Allen said the jury guarded against overprosecution by not delivering a guilty verdict on the conspiracy charge\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We cannot allow that precedent to be set in San Francisco, and the jury did not allow that,” they told a crowd gathered outside of the courthouse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12089841\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12089841\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260702-GGBVERDICT-02-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Activists also shut down traffic on Interstate-880 in Oakland, and staged similar protests in San Diego, Seattle, Philadelphia, San Antonio, Chicago and across Mexico, Vietnam and Australia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group of protesters, part of a larger cohort nicknamed the “Golden Gate 26,” chained themselves to parked cars and each other in the southbound lanes of the bridge beginning at 7:30 a.m. on April 15, causing a significant traffic backup as commuters tried to travel into San Francisco from the North Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Others, who participated in the demonstration by holding banners and blocking traffic but did not link themselves together, had charges against them dropped or reduced after many agreed to a diversion program, which included paying restitution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Defense attorneys said the protesters had tried expressing their concern through less disruptive means, like calling their local representatives and 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These seven individuals broke the law, regardless of their message or beliefs,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Roze spent much of her closing focused on proving conspiracy — the most serious of the charges that carries the longest sentence.[aside postID=news_12082743 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/260529-GGBTRIALTESTIMONY00089_TV-KQED.jpg']She said that the night before the protest, six of the defendants met in Berkeley and devised the plan to block a thoroughfare.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That’s when they became guilty of conspiracy to commit false imprisonment,” Roze said, adding that the seventh defendant received a call the same night telling him to meet at a BART station for the protest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The defendants’ lawyers have focused throughout the trial on setting up a so called “necessity defense” — which requires attorneys to show that the protesters believed they were facing a real, specific and immediate threat to themselves or others; had no reasonable alternative to the action they took; did not create greater danger than the danger they avoided; and did not contribute to or cause the threat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The attorneys said the protesters had tried expressing their concern through less disruptive means, like calling their local representatives and participating in marches. At the time, as Israel was weighing whether to invade Rafah, a city along Gaza’s southern border where 1 million displaced Palestinians were seeking refuge, they believed the escalation was necessary to save lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When their words were ignored, they had to get louder. And when the invasion of Rafah was imminent, they had to get loudest of all,” defense attorney John Viola said. “They weren’t there to break the law; they were there to enforce the law.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But ahead of closing arguments, Judge Teresa Caffese declined to give jurors special instructions to consider necessity in their deliberation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12086300\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12086300\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/260604-GGBTRIALCLOSING-14-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/260604-GGBTRIALCLOSING-14-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/260604-GGBTRIALCLOSING-14-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/260604-GGBTRIALCLOSING-14-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Violette Mansour, with Palestinian Youth Movement, speaks during a rally across from the San Francisco Superior Courthouse on June 4, 2026, to support the “Golden Gate 26” ahead of closing arguments in their trial. 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Cantor could face 15.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A reasonable doubt does not need to be substantial; it just needs to be reasonable, and if it exists, it means Ms. Tillotson and the rest are not guilty,” public defender Anthony Gedeon said during his closing statement on Thursday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Closing arguments in the case are expected to wrap up Friday, and the jury could decide on the case as soon as the afternoon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>On April 15, 2024, dozens of pro-Palestinian protesters blocked the Golden Gate Bridge, in an attempt to pressure the U.S. government into ending military aid for Israel’s bombing and invasion of Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, seven of those protesters are on trial facing felony charges in San Francisco. If convicted, they could face a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC4975303124&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Episode Transcript\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:00:00] \u003c/em>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. Sara Cantor grew up learning a lot about the Holocaust. Being Jewish, she learned about how much of German life just went on, as Jewish people were displaced, put in camps, and murdered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sara Cantor: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:00:24] \u003c/em>As a child I was really obsessed with and disturbed by the question of who would I have been during that time period, how would I had acted?\u003cem> \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:00:37] \u003c/em>On April 15th, 2024, Cantor was among 26 protesters who stopped traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge to highlight Israel’s siege of Gaza. Now she, along with six others, are on trial in San Francisco, facing felony conspiracy charges for their actions on the bridge that day. If convicted, they could face up to 15 years in prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sara Cantor: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:09] \u003c/em>I resolved that if I had been in that situation, or if I were to ever be in a similar situation, that I would resist, that I wouldn’t turn away, that I make sure to fight for the humanity of all people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:30] \u003c/em>Today, the Golden Gate Bridge protesters on trial in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:41] \u003c/em>Let’s start back in April of 2024. What happened on the Golden Gate Bridge?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:53] \u003c/em>Just before 8am, basically a group of cars drove southbound through Marin onto the Golden Gate Bridge and then stopped about halfway through. At that point some protestors got out of those cars and stopped up all southbound traffic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:12] \u003c/em>Juan Carlos Lara is a reporter for KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:16] \u003c/em>A few of those people kind of connected themselves into these devices, essentially chaining themselves to their cars and to each other, and then others unfurled a big banner that read Stop the World for Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Protester: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:28] \u003c/em>Stop funneling U.S. Tax dollars to the Israeli occupation forces to continue the atrocities and genocide of the Palestinian people!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:44] \u003c/em>From before this point, they’d been describing Israel’s actions in Gaza as a genocide, and this was part of an international kind of day of action.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:56] \u003c/em>Tax day. Is that right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:57] \u003c/em>Yeah, so this specifically happened on the tax filing deadline in the US. Protesters were hoping to apply economic pressure on the US to get US leaders to end military aid to Israel and, in effect, pressure Israel to stop its bombings of Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:17] \u003c/em>And how did this protest eventually end?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:21] \u003c/em>There were dozens of people out there. 26 were charged, and they ended up blocking traffic for about four hours. 18 of them were charged with misdemeanors. There was one who initially was faced with felony charges, but whose charges were dismissed. And then there were seven who were charged with felonies. These are six who allegedly chained themselves to their cars and to each other using these things called. Lockboxes or sleeping dragon devices that makes it really hard to remove protestors and then there was a seventh who was allegedly the police liaison going back and forth between uh the police and those protesters and these seven are the ones going through trial facing a series of charges chief among them there’s felony conspiracy there’s also a series of misdemeanors including false imprisonment and refusal to disperse\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:10] \u003c/em>And I actually remember that day and in particular, I remember social media just being sort of a big mess. A lot of people being really upset about the traffic in the Bay Area on that particular day. Again, it was one of many actions, but it’s not an unprecedented thing to see a protest on the Golden Gate Bridge, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:35] \u003c/em>Yeah, that’s right. The bridge has been a frequent site of protest. There was actually another bridge shut down just two months prior to this in February, but that one only lasted for like 45 minutes and dispersed very quickly, so it didn’t make as big headlines. There was a Black Lives Matter march that crossed the bridge in 2020. There was an anti-war protest that happened there in 2002. Two other really big ones in 1996. Woody Harrelson and a bunch of other people engaged in this like Save the Redwoods protest and they climbed the cables and hung a huge banner. And there was also a protest over the US’s response to the AIDS crisis in the 80s. It’s an iconic structure, obviously, and people hoping to… Bring a lot of attention to what they feel is an urgent cause often see it as a great place to stage these demonstrations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:28] \u003c/em>This happened more than two years ago now. What was the response at the time and how did we get to this point where there are now seven people facing these felony charges?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:41] \u003c/em>I’d say the response at the time was pretty divided. This has been a contentious issue, not just in the Bay Area, but kind of internationally. This was kind of at the fever pitch of pro-Palestinian protests in the bay area. Like I said, this was just two months after a smaller bridge shut down. At this time, the student encampments across college campuses were starting to wind down, but we’re still present on at least a few campuses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Brooke Jenkins: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:09] \u003c/em>I want to make clear that San Francisco, as well as myself as the district attorney, support free speech. But where we must draw the line is when acts of free speech endanger public safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:23] \u003c/em>In terms of local officials, San Francisco’s District Attorney Brooke Jenkins came out with very strong statements about this. She said that, you know, she encouraged people’s right to protest and to freedom of speech, but that this threatened the safety of people on the bridge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Brooke Jenkins: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:38] \u003c/em>And we must make sure that public safety is observed in San Francisco. And that is what we are committed to doing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:46] \u003c/em>So the district attorney ended up filing, like I said, felony conspiracy charges against seven and then a slew of misdemeanors against the other 18 involved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:57] \u003c/em>And as I understand it, some of these protesters also had to pay the Golden Gate Bridge district for some of the interruptions that happened in terms of traffic that day, is that right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:12] \u003c/em>Yeah, so after the bridge shut down, San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins and the California Highway Patrol both put out messages essentially soliciting people to come forward if they feel like they were victims and that they may be entitled to restitution. The Golden Gate Bridge Highway and Transportation District filed a restitution claim for just over $160,000, arguing that that was the lost toll revenue that they had suffered for the shutdown. That was seen as a somewhat unprecedented move. As far as we can tell, the Bridge District has never filed a restitution claim against other protesters who have shut down the bridge. Ultimately, the bridge district and the protesters settled for an unspecified amount. And then the group of protesters who did not ultimately face felony charges, who were just facing a series of misdemeanors, settled with private individuals who said they suffered losses, mostly the day’s lost wages, and they ended up paying out a group of those claimants for just over five grand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:22] \u003c/em>Coming up, inside the courtroom for the Golden Gate Bridge protesters’ trial. By the way, if you appreciate these deep dives into local news in the Bay Area, consider becoming a KQED member. We can’t do this work without our listener donations, so consider joining the hundreds of thousands of your Bay Area neighbors today. KQed.org slash donate is the place to do it. We’ll be right back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:57] \u003c/em>So let’s talk about this trial. What is the district attorney’s office arguing in court? And have they said anything in the media about how they’re approaching this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:09:06] \u003c/em>So in court, the prosecution’s main argument is they’ve been asking jurors to set aside how they feel about Gaza or how they feel about Israel’s war in Gaza and to just focus specifically on the actions and the consequences of those actions. In its opening statement, the prosecution argued that people were pretty significantly impacted, that they were trapped on the bridge for hours that people were late to work, including nurses at local hospitals, that people missed doctor’s appointments. And so they argue that these people really were kind of trapped on there. And so false imprisonment is a fitting charge for that reason. The DA’s office has been pretty tight-lipped outside of court. While the district attorney did make a public statement on this initially, not long after the first protest and did put out a statement explaining some of the charges. Uh, in recent months, the DA’s office has declined to comment. They said they’re not really going to litigate this in the media and they’re just going to focus on court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:10:06] \u003c/em>Walk me through the defense argument here, Juan Carlos. It sounds like they do feel like the consequences are perhaps unfair, and that these protesters were just exercising their First Amendment right, just as has been done on the bridge for many years before. Who’s defending these protesters, and what are they saying in court?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:10:27] \u003c/em>There are seven defendants and each one of them has their own attorney, which does make for a bit of a circus act in court because there are seven kind of all clamoring to object around the same time. And we heard seven opening statements kind of each tailored to each individual defendant. The protesters and their attorneys have definitely argued that these charges are unprecedented, that charges like false imprisonment or felony conspiracy should be reserved for very serious crimes, not people engaging in acts of civil disobedience. A good example of kind of the defense that they’ve been putting on so far came from Shafi Mouil, who’s the attorney for one of the defendants, and she went first during opening statements. The first words that she spoke when addressing the jury were, necessary, urgent, and life-saving. And essentially, the argument that she made was that her client and all of the other clients there had really made an earnest effort to try to engage with the government and try to facilitate some kind of change that they had, you know, written letters to their member of Congress and that they have participated in kind of permitted sit-ins and other kinds of acceptable protest and that nothing that they’d done had created the change that they thought was needed. And that they sincerely thought that by engaging in this act of protest that they could apply pressure to the government and successfully create some change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Manan Kocher: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:11:56] \u003c/em>My seven co-defendants are amongst the bravest, most beautiful and brilliant people that I know and they are in unwavering solidarity of Palestine always.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:10] \u003c/em>Manan Kocher was one of the misdemeanor defendants whose case was ultimately diverted and they are serving as sort of a communications person for the group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Manan Kocher: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:20] \u003c/em>We’re here to remind everyone that we are more in solidarity, we are stronger together than we were two years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:28] \u003c/em>They, you know, like the defense have argued that the protesters had good intentions that they were hoping to create a positive change and that their intention was not to break the law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Manan Kocher: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:39] \u003c/em>What the overprosecution in this case is intended to do is stifle dissent and prevent people from standing up against the U.S. War machine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:53] \u003c/em>And Juan Carlos, you’ve been in the courtroom the past few days. You were there for opening statements. I mean, what was it, what’s it like in there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:02] \u003c/em>Yeah, things in the courtroom have been, for the most part, pretty standard. The first day of trial before the jury, a large group of supporters for the protesters came out and sat in trial for most of the morning. And this was a group of people that I had recognized from many other demonstrations that I’ve covered in the last three years, including protests calling on local universities that I’ve asked from weapons manufacturers. There is this kind of undercurrent of tension because the judge, it seems, would prefer to focus on the specific acts of the case. But the defense is hoping to talk about the broader crisis in Gaza in order to justify the actions of their defendants. The judge at one point even said while talking to both sides, we’re not going to decide in this courtroom whether the U.S. Is violating international law. And so it seems like there is an effort to try to avoid the trial from being. Sucked up into this broader debate about the legality of the U.S. And Israel’s actions in Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:08] \u003c/em>What happens if they’re found guilty?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:11] \u003c/em>If they’re found guilty the group of seven face up to 14 or 15 years in prison. Wow. We don’t know for sure whether the prosecution will seek such a steep sentence but their charge is taken together that is the that is the maximum that they’re facing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:30] \u003c/em>You’re going back to the courtroom today, Juan Carlos. What are you gonna be watching for?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:35] \u003c/em>This week the prosecution is expected to wrap up the witnesses that they’re gonna be calling. My understanding is that the remaining witnesses are going to be a few more law enforcement who can speak to kind of just asserting the basic facts of the case. But more significantly, the prosecution is expected to call people who were trapped on the bridge who were stuck in their cars To speak to the way that this impacted them And so really this is going to be a question of how much the that testimony impacts the jury\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:15:08] \u003c/em>I mean, what are the potential implications of this trial if these protesters are in fact found guilty of felony charges?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:15:17] \u003c/em>What some activists and lawyers for the defendants have argued is that this presents an effort by the district attorney’s office to create a chilling effect on similar demonstrations to essentially make an example out of these protesters and deter other protesters from engaging in similarly disruptive acts in the future. But protesters and Manan Kutcher argue that if that is the intention that it’s not going to work and that they won’t allow something like this to deter them from continuing to advocate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:15:51] \u003c/em>I have to say I’m talking to you now about this trial, Juan Carlos, but it reminds me a lot of the trial that happened for protesters in Stanford and this feeling that Gaza seems to be the exception, that the hand is sort of coming down heavy when it comes to protesters on this particular political issue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:16:12] \u003c/em>That’s definitely something that some of the protesters involved in these demonstrations have also pointed out and argued, that they feel like the reactions to these demonstrations are disproportional and that it’s partially because of what they believe is a disagreement on, you know, perspectives regarding Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:16:36] \u003c/em>Well Juan Carlos, thank you so much for joining us on the show, I appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:16:40] \u003c/em>Thank you for having me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"\" title=\"\">\u003ci>Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, San Francisco-Northern California Local.\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n",
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If convicted, they could face up to 15 years in prison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sara Cantor: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:09] \u003c/em>I resolved that if I had been in that situation, or if I were to ever be in a similar situation, that I would resist, that I wouldn’t turn away, that I make sure to fight for the humanity of all people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:30] \u003c/em>Today, the Golden Gate Bridge protesters on trial in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:41] \u003c/em>Let’s start back in April of 2024. What happened on the Golden Gate Bridge?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:53] \u003c/em>Just before 8am, basically a group of cars drove southbound through Marin onto the Golden Gate Bridge and then stopped about halfway through. At that point some protestors got out of those cars and stopped up all southbound traffic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:12] \u003c/em>Juan Carlos Lara is a reporter for KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:16] \u003c/em>A few of those people kind of connected themselves into these devices, essentially chaining themselves to their cars and to each other, and then others unfurled a big banner that read Stop the World for Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Protester: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:28] \u003c/em>Stop funneling U.S. Tax dollars to the Israeli occupation forces to continue the atrocities and genocide of the Palestinian people!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:44] \u003c/em>From before this point, they’d been describing Israel’s actions in Gaza as a genocide, and this was part of an international kind of day of action.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:56] \u003c/em>Tax day. Is that right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:57] \u003c/em>Yeah, so this specifically happened on the tax filing deadline in the US. Protesters were hoping to apply economic pressure on the US to get US leaders to end military aid to Israel and, in effect, pressure Israel to stop its bombings of Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:17] \u003c/em>And how did this protest eventually end?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:21] \u003c/em>There were dozens of people out there. 26 were charged, and they ended up blocking traffic for about four hours. 18 of them were charged with misdemeanors. There was one who initially was faced with felony charges, but whose charges were dismissed. And then there were seven who were charged with felonies. These are six who allegedly chained themselves to their cars and to each other using these things called. Lockboxes or sleeping dragon devices that makes it really hard to remove protestors and then there was a seventh who was allegedly the police liaison going back and forth between uh the police and those protesters and these seven are the ones going through trial facing a series of charges chief among them there’s felony conspiracy there’s also a series of misdemeanors including false imprisonment and refusal to disperse\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:10] \u003c/em>And I actually remember that day and in particular, I remember social media just being sort of a big mess. A lot of people being really upset about the traffic in the Bay Area on that particular day. Again, it was one of many actions, but it’s not an unprecedented thing to see a protest on the Golden Gate Bridge, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:35] \u003c/em>Yeah, that’s right. The bridge has been a frequent site of protest. There was actually another bridge shut down just two months prior to this in February, but that one only lasted for like 45 minutes and dispersed very quickly, so it didn’t make as big headlines. There was a Black Lives Matter march that crossed the bridge in 2020. There was an anti-war protest that happened there in 2002. Two other really big ones in 1996. Woody Harrelson and a bunch of other people engaged in this like Save the Redwoods protest and they climbed the cables and hung a huge banner. And there was also a protest over the US’s response to the AIDS crisis in the 80s. It’s an iconic structure, obviously, and people hoping to… Bring a lot of attention to what they feel is an urgent cause often see it as a great place to stage these demonstrations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:28] \u003c/em>This happened more than two years ago now. What was the response at the time and how did we get to this point where there are now seven people facing these felony charges?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:41] \u003c/em>I’d say the response at the time was pretty divided. This has been a contentious issue, not just in the Bay Area, but kind of internationally. This was kind of at the fever pitch of pro-Palestinian protests in the bay area. Like I said, this was just two months after a smaller bridge shut down. At this time, the student encampments across college campuses were starting to wind down, but we’re still present on at least a few campuses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Brooke Jenkins: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:09] \u003c/em>I want to make clear that San Francisco, as well as myself as the district attorney, support free speech. But where we must draw the line is when acts of free speech endanger public safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:23] \u003c/em>In terms of local officials, San Francisco’s District Attorney Brooke Jenkins came out with very strong statements about this. She said that, you know, she encouraged people’s right to protest and to freedom of speech, but that this threatened the safety of people on the bridge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Brooke Jenkins: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:38] \u003c/em>And we must make sure that public safety is observed in San Francisco. And that is what we are committed to doing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:46] \u003c/em>So the district attorney ended up filing, like I said, felony conspiracy charges against seven and then a slew of misdemeanors against the other 18 involved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:57] \u003c/em>And as I understand it, some of these protesters also had to pay the Golden Gate Bridge district for some of the interruptions that happened in terms of traffic that day, is that right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:12] \u003c/em>Yeah, so after the bridge shut down, San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins and the California Highway Patrol both put out messages essentially soliciting people to come forward if they feel like they were victims and that they may be entitled to restitution. The Golden Gate Bridge Highway and Transportation District filed a restitution claim for just over $160,000, arguing that that was the lost toll revenue that they had suffered for the shutdown. That was seen as a somewhat unprecedented move. As far as we can tell, the Bridge District has never filed a restitution claim against other protesters who have shut down the bridge. Ultimately, the bridge district and the protesters settled for an unspecified amount. And then the group of protesters who did not ultimately face felony charges, who were just facing a series of misdemeanors, settled with private individuals who said they suffered losses, mostly the day’s lost wages, and they ended up paying out a group of those claimants for just over five grand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:22] \u003c/em>Coming up, inside the courtroom for the Golden Gate Bridge protesters’ trial. By the way, if you appreciate these deep dives into local news in the Bay Area, consider becoming a KQED member. We can’t do this work without our listener donations, so consider joining the hundreds of thousands of your Bay Area neighbors today. KQed.org slash donate is the place to do it. We’ll be right back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:57] \u003c/em>So let’s talk about this trial. What is the district attorney’s office arguing in court? And have they said anything in the media about how they’re approaching this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:09:06] \u003c/em>So in court, the prosecution’s main argument is they’ve been asking jurors to set aside how they feel about Gaza or how they feel about Israel’s war in Gaza and to just focus specifically on the actions and the consequences of those actions. In its opening statement, the prosecution argued that people were pretty significantly impacted, that they were trapped on the bridge for hours that people were late to work, including nurses at local hospitals, that people missed doctor’s appointments. And so they argue that these people really were kind of trapped on there. And so false imprisonment is a fitting charge for that reason. The DA’s office has been pretty tight-lipped outside of court. While the district attorney did make a public statement on this initially, not long after the first protest and did put out a statement explaining some of the charges. Uh, in recent months, the DA’s office has declined to comment. They said they’re not really going to litigate this in the media and they’re just going to focus on court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:10:06] \u003c/em>Walk me through the defense argument here, Juan Carlos. It sounds like they do feel like the consequences are perhaps unfair, and that these protesters were just exercising their First Amendment right, just as has been done on the bridge for many years before. Who’s defending these protesters, and what are they saying in court?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:10:27] \u003c/em>There are seven defendants and each one of them has their own attorney, which does make for a bit of a circus act in court because there are seven kind of all clamoring to object around the same time. And we heard seven opening statements kind of each tailored to each individual defendant. The protesters and their attorneys have definitely argued that these charges are unprecedented, that charges like false imprisonment or felony conspiracy should be reserved for very serious crimes, not people engaging in acts of civil disobedience. A good example of kind of the defense that they’ve been putting on so far came from Shafi Mouil, who’s the attorney for one of the defendants, and she went first during opening statements. The first words that she spoke when addressing the jury were, necessary, urgent, and life-saving. And essentially, the argument that she made was that her client and all of the other clients there had really made an earnest effort to try to engage with the government and try to facilitate some kind of change that they had, you know, written letters to their member of Congress and that they have participated in kind of permitted sit-ins and other kinds of acceptable protest and that nothing that they’d done had created the change that they thought was needed. 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The judge at one point even said while talking to both sides, we’re not going to decide in this courtroom whether the U.S. Is violating international law. And so it seems like there is an effort to try to avoid the trial from being. Sucked up into this broader debate about the legality of the U.S. And Israel’s actions in Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:08] \u003c/em>What happens if they’re found guilty?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Juan Carlos Lara: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:11] \u003c/em>If they’re found guilty the group of seven face up to 14 or 15 years in prison. Wow. We don’t know for sure whether the prosecution will seek such a steep sentence but their charge is taken together that is the that is the maximum that they’re facing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:30] \u003c/em>You’re going back to the courtroom today, Juan Carlos. 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In response to her inquiries, Kaiser wrote that “It is your responsibility to keep your work authorization current,” according to \u003ca href=\"https://missionlocal.org/2026/05/kaiser-nurse-daca-renewal-delay-san-francisco/\">\u003cem>Mission Local\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, which first reported her case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement, Kaiser said the organization was evaluating potential solutions. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have been working directly with our employee to support her through this as best we can. We have been working with the union as well, and appreciate their advocacy on behalf of our employee. We are currently evaluating what potential solutions are available,” a spokesperson said in a statement. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside of Kaiser on Monday, dozens of nurses chanted: “Defend DACA now,” calling on the hospital to extend the nurse’s unpaid leave. In a statement read aloud by fellow nurses at the rally, the soon-to-be-terminated nurse wrote: “I feel devastated and torn to pieces to be in a position where the fault lies with the innocent.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So, I ask Kaiser to extend my leave, because I want to thrive, too,” it said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hers is not an isolated case. According to the Migration Policy Institute, an estimated 500,000 immigrants currently hold DACA status, and many have been caught in a surge of federal processing delays — a trend that advocates told KQED accelerated this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12083226\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12083226\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/260511-KAISERDACA00122_TV-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/260511-KAISERDACA00122_TV-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/260511-KAISERDACA00122_TV-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/260511-KAISERDACA00122_TV-KQED-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Diana Alfaro, a registered nurse, rallies against Kaiser’s plans to terminate a DACA recipient registered nurse outside of Kaiser Permanente on Geary Street in San Francisco on May 11, 2026. \u003ccite>(Tâm Vũ/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The East Bay Sanctuary Covenant, which serves more than 1,000 active DACA clients, said that over half of renewal requests filed since November 2025 remain pending.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lisa Hoffman, the organization’s co-executive director, said delays of 150 days or more are now common.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is just the latest attack,” Hoffman said. “It feels like DACA is being chipped away at piece by piece every day.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sydney Simpson, a registered nurse at Kaiser San Francisco, said the hospital’s decision is both morally and practically wrong.[aside postID=news_12082440 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/04/240408-FCIDublin-018-BL_qut-1020x680.jpg']“To replace a nurse with her level of expertise is extremely painful for the organization — it’s expensive, it hurts our morale as nurses and it hurts patient quality of care,” Simpson said. “It seems like a really easy decision, but for whatever reason, they are holding their ground.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nurses pointed to a stark contrast with the University of California health system. Maureen Dugan, a UCSF registered nurse, said at Monday’s rally that the UC’s union contract explicitly protects DACA nurses from termination during renewal delays — and guarantees recall rights if they are temporarily let go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“UC is committed to supporting DACA staff,” Dugan said. “We won that language in our last contract negotiations.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last week, a coalition of Bay Area immigrant rights groups — including Justice Action Center, East Bay Sanctuary Covenant, the Immigration Institute of the Bay Area and Cornell Law School’s Path2Papers — filed a Freedom of Information Act request, demanding the Trump administration release data on how it is processing DACA renewals and what, if any, policy changes are driving the delays.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates say DACA recipients are now making major life decisions — about their jobs, their housing, their families — without knowing when or whether their renewals will come through.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vanessa Rivas-Bernardy, a staff attorney at Justice Action Center, said the delays reflect a program under sustained administrative pressure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12083229\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12083229\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/260511-KAISERDACA00360_TV-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/260511-KAISERDACA00360_TV-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/260511-KAISERDACA00360_TV-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/260511-KAISERDACA00360_TV-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Supervisor Connie Chan rallies against Kaiser’s plans to terminate a DACA recipient registered nurse outside of Kaiser Permanente on Geary Street in San Francisco on May 11, 2026. \u003ccite>(Tâm Vũ/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“DACA recipients have been living in two-year increments — all their decisions, their whole lives are in these two-year chunks,” Rivas-Bernardy said. “This is just an exacerbation of that uncertainty and risk, but it’s been completely ramping up in recent months in a way we really haven’t seen before.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the government does not respond to the FOIA request within 20 calendar days, Rivas-Bernardy said the coalition is prepared to file a federal lawsuit to compel disclosure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco Supervisor Connie Chan attended Monday’s rally and called on Kaiser to change course.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our nurses — DACA or otherwise — should not be punished for the Trump administration’s incompetence,” Chan said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In her written statement, the nurse said she is still holding on to hope.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I know I am worthy, good enough, an exceptional nurse and member of this society,” she wrote. “I am a DACA recipient — a dreamer.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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This game has a really special place in my heart, and the thought of it being taken over by people who might want to censor that aspect is really frightening.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>East said that gaming helped him with depression, and that he worried this deal would set off a domino effect in the gaming industry, where more publicly traded companies will be taken over by private equity firms — and a greater emphasis will be placed on profits as opposed to the quality of the games.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ I can personally say that gaming has saved my life,” East said. “Being able to play games and connect with people gave me a pathway to speak through what was bothering me, and without that, I don’t know if I would be here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>EA said the transaction is expected to close this year, subject to regulatory approvals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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We have security officers that have been knocked down.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rally also championed proposed state \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260sb1203\">legislation\u003c/a> that aims to review pay and set enhanced training standards for private security officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>David Huerta, president of the SEIU, said there are over 330,000 private security guards compared to 90,000 badged police officers in California. This disparity often places a strain on security guards to act as first responders, despite receiving less training.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12080329\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12080329\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041626SECURITY-PROTEST-FOLO_GH_005-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041626SECURITY-PROTEST-FOLO_GH_005-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041626SECURITY-PROTEST-FOLO_GH_005-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/041626SECURITY-PROTEST-FOLO_GH_005-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Security officers drum and march behind an SEIU United Service Workers West banner during a rally demanding fair contracts, better pay and improved safety standards on April 16, 2026, at Mechanics Monument Plaza in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>California \u003ca href=\"https://www.bsis.ca.gov/forms_pubs/guard_fact.pdf\">currently \u003c/a>requires licensed guards to receive just 32 hours of training within six months of registration and an additional eight hours of yearly use-of-force and power to arrest training. This primarily happens online, without many opportunities for officers to ask questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s often insufficient practice for the complex, interpersonal tasks they’re asked to perform every day, said Charles Person, a security officer, union shop steward and member of the bargaining committee for the upcoming contract negotiation.[aside postID=news_12080047 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250424_UCSFFILE_GC-12-KQED-1020x630.jpg']By comparison, the San Francisco Police Department requires a \u003ca href=\"https://www.joinsfpd.com/basic-academy\">34-week-long Basic Academy training\u003c/a> and an additional 40 hours of training every two years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lack of training can have dire consequences. In June 2023, a security guard shot and killed 24-year-old \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11952689/they-carry-weapons-so-why-dont-security-guards-have-to-get-use-of-force-training\">Banko Brown\u003c/a> after police said he shoplifted $14 worth of merchandise. Months after Brown’s death, the state began mandating use-of-force training for security guards. Earlier this year, a security officer \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12074645/san-francisco-security-guard-charged-with-murder-claims-self-defense\">shot\u003c/a> and killed a man in a Tenderloin parking lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re the first line of defense,” Person said. “We’re the ones that respond to emergencies … but we’re being treated as if we’re not important.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The private security industry predominantly employs Black and brown workers, often for substandard wages, officials said. In California, security guards had an annual mean wage of just \u003ca href=\"https://www.bls.gov/oes/2023/may/oes339032.ht\">$21.61\u003c/a> in 2023. By comparison, police officers have an annual mean wage of \u003ca href=\"https://www.bls.gov/oes/2023/may/oes333051.htm\">$53.74 \u003c/a>in 2023.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A Fairfield resident, Person said that with gas and toll prices increasing, every time he commutes to his security work in Richmond, he gets “hit in the pocket.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Their wages are well below what it takes to really be able to live and provide for their families, yet they’re protecting multi-billion dollar facilities,” Huerta said ahead of Thursday’s rally. “They’re protecting multi-building dollar companies.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/epeppel\">\u003cem>Eliza Peppel \u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem>contributed to the report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>When pro-Palestinian student protests swept college campuses across the country two years ago, the movement at \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/san-francisco-state-university\">San Francisco State University\u003c/a> was an outlier.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elsewhere, many of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11984203/pro-palestinian-protests-sweep-california-college-campuses-amid-israel-hamas-war\">campus encampments and demonstrations\u003c/a> against Israel’s war on Gaza had led to clashes with administrators or violent crackdowns by law enforcement. Meanwhile, at SF State, President Lynn Mahoney sat down in front of hundreds on Malcolm X Plaza for what was believed to have been a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11985130/sfsu-president-begins-negotiations-with-campus-gaza-protesters\">first-of-its-kind public negotiation session\u003c/a> between school leaders and students, which led to a change to the school’s endowment investment policy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are one of the only schools in the entire nation that got divestment,” said Sam Silva, a graduate student in SF State’s communication studies department. “That is a pretty huge deal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week, Mahoney again sat across from a panel of five students to negotiate on a package of broader demands, including protections for undocumented students, transparency around campus funding cuts and improvements to dorm conditions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The SFSU Student Union won the session, one of the advocacy groups that led the university’s pro-Palestinian protest movement in 2024. Since the organization has evolved, applying the lessons learned two years ago to their continued push to represent students before campus administrators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Many of us have learned from the encampment, and learned how to win,” said Brian Yan, a media liaison for the Student Union. Last semester, he said, more than 180 students, graduate students and workers gathered for a Student Union “general assembly” to begin discussing the demands they negotiated this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12079189\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12079189 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-07-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-07-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-07-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-07-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">SFSU President Lynn Mahoney speaks with a student negotiating team in Malcolm X Plaza at San Francisco State University on April 8, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We know that we need as many students as we can possibly get,” he said. “When you see almost 200 people sitting right outside your building, saying, ‘If we don’t get [a negotiating session] we will escalate,’ I think that compels administrators to come out and bargain.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the last two years, the group has focused on broadening campus support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At weekly general meetings, leaders share updates, host trainings and discuss relevant news and articles. Throughout the 2025-26 school year, the organization has also built up at least nine smaller department unions, which aim to engage a wider swath of students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A group of students in the Department of Broadcast and Electronic Communication Arts launched a \u003ca href=\"https://open.spotify.com/show/4ncPsxmp99mU4e7SOPGnyq\">podcast\u003c/a> that ran six episodes last year, amplifying the Student Union and its departments’ platforms. Students also chat and share updates on a Substack page and Slack channel.[aside postID=news_12002307 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/20240829-SFSUGazarally-JY-011-1020x680.jpg']“We have our student government, and I think that functions kind of like the government. Our job is to really try to talk to the students on campus and figure out what issues they’re actually facing and how we can address them in a way that a union might, with a mass movement,” said Kenna Klop-Packel, a member of the Student Union’s leadership team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Klop-Packel said she was already part of a student group called Mathematistas, which focused on community-building and gender equity in the math department. In the fall, the organization added the broader interests of the Student Union to its focus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I saw, and I think the people around me also saw that this is one way that we could support equity in mathematics,” Klop-Packel said, adding that many of the organizations’ goals aligned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the math department, Klop-Packel said calculus class sizes have tripled in recent years. Other courses have more limited availability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The people that are going to first fall through the cracks are the people who already didn’t feel at home in the math department,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The math union meets weekly, and in addition to the Mathematistas’ former community building and department-specific events, it now also “practices classroom conversations, how to explain to our classmates about these issues, and what the Student Union is doing, how we’re fighting back,” Klop-Packel told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12079196\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12079196 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-23-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-23-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-23-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-23-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Student demands are displayed on a banner while a student negotiating team speaks with SFSU President Lynn Mahoney and Provost Amy Sueyoshi in Malcolm X Plaza at San Francisco State University on April 8, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At the first public negotiation session in 2024, representatives of the SFSU Students for Palestine Encampment urged changes to the university’s endowment investment policy and asked administrators to declare a genocide in Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That August, the campus announced it \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12002307/san-francisco-state-divests-from-weapons-makers-after-working-with-student-activists\">would divest from four companies\u003c/a>: weapons manufacturers Lockheed Martin and Leonardo, data analysis company and military contractor Palantir, and construction equipment maker Caterpillar. In December, it adopted a new investment policy with limitations on companies that profit from weapons manufacturing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last fall, the Student Union launched its second major negotiating campaign with a series of general assemblies. That led to the list of five demands, including increased budget transparency, that students sent to administrators in March and discussed with Mahoney and Provost Amy Sueyoshi on Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vi Lee, another member of the Student Union’s leadership team, said the focus on campus finances was a “logical next step” for the group, which formed the year before the pro-Palestinian protest movement in response to tuition hikes across the California State University system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12079190\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12079190 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-10-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-10-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-10-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-10-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">SFSU Provost Amy Sueyoshi speaks with a student negotiating team in Malcolm X Plaza at San Francisco State University on April 8, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Those issues had not gone away, they’d only gotten worse,” Lee said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Between 2019 and 2024, the campus \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12018149/san-francisco-state-students-faculty-mourn-job-cuts-funeral-march\">cut more than 1,000 course sections\u003c/a> and let go of 155 lecturers whose positions rely on those classes. In December, it offered buyouts to tenured and tenure-track faculty who have worked at the school for at least five years in the face of a $20 million budget deficit, \u003ca href=\"https://goldengatexpress.org/114511/news/campus/sfsu-offers-buyouts-to-all-tenure-track-and-tenured-faculty/\">according to the \u003cem>Golden Gate Xpress\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, a student news outlet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In spring 2027, SF State plans to discontinue or suspend a dozen undergraduate degree programs as well as a handful of master’s programs and minors. University spokesperson Bobby King said those cuts are meant to realign resources with enrollment demand and aren’t related to the budget. A decade ago, enrollment hovered just under 30,000 students, down to just over 20,700 this year, according to campus data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12079193\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12079193\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-19-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-19-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-19-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-19-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students walk through the San Francisco State University campus on April 8, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The students have asked for the university to halt future class and program cuts and provide transparency around the budget shortfall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They also brought forward four other wide-ranging demands: changes to the school’s policies surrounding AI, a public statement affirming that the school won’t hand over to the federal government the names of students and faculty who participate in political actions, new protections for students against Immigration and Customs Enforcement and improved conditions in dorms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group said the list represents students’ “collective working and educational issues on campus.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During Wednesday’s hourlong session, no campus policy changes were made. Afterward, however, Mahoney said she believed some of the students’ demands would bring about changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12079187\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12079187 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-03-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-03-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-03-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-03-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A student negotiating team speaks with SFSU President Lynn Mahoney and Provost Amy Sueyoshi in Malcolm X Plaza at San Francisco State University on April 8, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I think we do need to set rules for AI, and I think students and faculty and staff have to participate in those rules. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week, Mahoney again sat across from a panel of five students to negotiate on a package of broader demands, including protections for undocumented students, transparency around campus funding cuts and improvements to dorm conditions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The SFSU Student Union won the session, one of the advocacy groups that led the university’s pro-Palestinian protest movement in 2024. Since the organization has evolved, applying the lessons learned two years ago to their continued push to represent students before campus administrators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Many of us have learned from the encampment, and learned how to win,” said Brian Yan, a media liaison for the Student Union. Last semester, he said, more than 180 students, graduate students and workers gathered for a Student Union “general assembly” to begin discussing the demands they negotiated this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12079189\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12079189 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-07-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-07-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-07-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-07-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">SFSU President Lynn Mahoney speaks with a student negotiating team in Malcolm X Plaza at San Francisco State University on April 8, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We know that we need as many students as we can possibly get,” he said. “When you see almost 200 people sitting right outside your building, saying, ‘If we don’t get [a negotiating session] we will escalate,’ I think that compels administrators to come out and bargain.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the last two years, the group has focused on broadening campus support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At weekly general meetings, leaders share updates, host trainings and discuss relevant news and articles. Throughout the 2025-26 school year, the organization has also built up at least nine smaller department unions, which aim to engage a wider swath of students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A group of students in the Department of Broadcast and Electronic Communication Arts launched a \u003ca href=\"https://open.spotify.com/show/4ncPsxmp99mU4e7SOPGnyq\">podcast\u003c/a> that ran six episodes last year, amplifying the Student Union and its departments’ platforms. Students also chat and share updates on a Substack page and Slack channel.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“We have our student government, and I think that functions kind of like the government. Our job is to really try to talk to the students on campus and figure out what issues they’re actually facing and how we can address them in a way that a union might, with a mass movement,” said Kenna Klop-Packel, a member of the Student Union’s leadership team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Klop-Packel said she was already part of a student group called Mathematistas, which focused on community-building and gender equity in the math department. In the fall, the organization added the broader interests of the Student Union to its focus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I saw, and I think the people around me also saw that this is one way that we could support equity in mathematics,” Klop-Packel said, adding that many of the organizations’ goals aligned.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the math department, Klop-Packel said calculus class sizes have tripled in recent years. Other courses have more limited availability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The people that are going to first fall through the cracks are the people who already didn’t feel at home in the math department,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The math union meets weekly, and in addition to the Mathematistas’ former community building and department-specific events, it now also “practices classroom conversations, how to explain to our classmates about these issues, and what the Student Union is doing, how we’re fighting back,” Klop-Packel told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12079196\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12079196 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-23-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-23-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-23-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-23-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Student demands are displayed on a banner while a student negotiating team speaks with SFSU President Lynn Mahoney and Provost Amy Sueyoshi in Malcolm X Plaza at San Francisco State University on April 8, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At the first public negotiation session in 2024, representatives of the SFSU Students for Palestine Encampment urged changes to the university’s endowment investment policy and asked administrators to declare a genocide in Gaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That August, the campus announced it \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12002307/san-francisco-state-divests-from-weapons-makers-after-working-with-student-activists\">would divest from four companies\u003c/a>: weapons manufacturers Lockheed Martin and Leonardo, data analysis company and military contractor Palantir, and construction equipment maker Caterpillar. In December, it adopted a new investment policy with limitations on companies that profit from weapons manufacturing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last fall, the Student Union launched its second major negotiating campaign with a series of general assemblies. That led to the list of five demands, including increased budget transparency, that students sent to administrators in March and discussed with Mahoney and Provost Amy Sueyoshi on Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vi Lee, another member of the Student Union’s leadership team, said the focus on campus finances was a “logical next step” for the group, which formed the year before the pro-Palestinian protest movement in response to tuition hikes across the California State University system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12079190\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12079190 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-10-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-10-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-10-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-10-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">SFSU Provost Amy Sueyoshi speaks with a student negotiating team in Malcolm X Plaza at San Francisco State University on April 8, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Those issues had not gone away, they’d only gotten worse,” Lee said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Between 2019 and 2024, the campus \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12018149/san-francisco-state-students-faculty-mourn-job-cuts-funeral-march\">cut more than 1,000 course sections\u003c/a> and let go of 155 lecturers whose positions rely on those classes. In December, it offered buyouts to tenured and tenure-track faculty who have worked at the school for at least five years in the face of a $20 million budget deficit, \u003ca href=\"https://goldengatexpress.org/114511/news/campus/sfsu-offers-buyouts-to-all-tenure-track-and-tenured-faculty/\">according to the \u003cem>Golden Gate Xpress\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, a student news outlet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In spring 2027, SF State plans to discontinue or suspend a dozen undergraduate degree programs as well as a handful of master’s programs and minors. University spokesperson Bobby King said those cuts are meant to realign resources with enrollment demand and aren’t related to the budget. A decade ago, enrollment hovered just under 30,000 students, down to just over 20,700 this year, according to campus data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12079193\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12079193\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-19-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-19-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-19-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-19-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students walk through the San Francisco State University campus on April 8, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The students have asked for the university to halt future class and program cuts and provide transparency around the budget shortfall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They also brought forward four other wide-ranging demands: changes to the school’s policies surrounding AI, a public statement affirming that the school won’t hand over to the federal government the names of students and faculty who participate in political actions, new protections for students against Immigration and Customs Enforcement and improved conditions in dorms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group said the list represents students’ “collective working and educational issues on campus.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During Wednesday’s hourlong session, no campus policy changes were made. Afterward, however, Mahoney said she believed some of the students’ demands would bring about changes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12079187\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12079187 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-03-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-03-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-03-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260408-SFSUNegotiations-03-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A student negotiating team speaks with SFSU President Lynn Mahoney and Provost Amy Sueyoshi in Malcolm X Plaza at San Francisco State University on April 8, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I think we do need to set rules for AI, and I think students and faculty and staff have to participate in those rules. 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"content": "\u003cp>Large crowds gathered in more than two dozen towns and cities around the Bay Area Saturday, for the third round of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12077800/what-to-expect-at-saturdays-no-kings-protests-across-the-bay-area\">“No Kings” protests\u003c/a> against the Trump administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rallies were among thousands taking place across the country, with protesters calling out what they see as the administration’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12055641/after-kirks-death-trump-targets-critics-in-expanding-free-speech-fight\">attacks on free speech\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12077491/california-vote-by-mail-faces-legal-political-challenges-from-trump-allies\">voting rights\u003c/a> and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12077783/how-the-war-in-iran-is-impacting-fertilizer-supplies-food-prices\">war in Iran\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Those of us who are standing up for American values are united in our anger, but also in our love for each other and our love for this country,” said Joey Raff, an organizer with Oakland’s “No Kings” protest and Indivisible East Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people attended the No Kings march for the first time, but others, like Shelley Facente, had attended all three. “I felt more resolute even today,” she told KQED in San Francisco, comparing this moment to the previous ones. “It was that much more important that we double down and keep showing up.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12077996\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12077996\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_002-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_002-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_002-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_002-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters hold a banner reading “End the wars, stop ICE, general strike” during a rally at Embarcadero Plaza in San Francisco on March 28, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12077986\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12077986\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-06-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-06-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-06-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-06-KQED-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(From left) Amy and Sarah Blanchard rally at the Embarcadero in San Francisco before the start of the third No Kings protest on March 28, 2026. \u003ccite>(Martin do Nascimento/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Among the thousands of people taking part in the march were people of all ages. Elderly participants rode mobile scooters, and young parents hoisted their children on their shoulders. With a handmade sign in one hand and his daughter in the other, Jesse Bell made his way through the San Francisco crowd. “This was a place, this country, where we were able to gather together to say how we felt, and I wanted to take advantage of that and show my daughter the power [of people],” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This was the third No Kings event in nine months, and Kaelyn Abbott had been to all three: one in Santa Cruz, one in San José, and now San Francisco. She said so much had happened since the last protest and that “we needed to have one once a month, to be honest, in order to keep up with all the grievances people had and to keep momentum. More people were finally understanding that we really needed to stand up for our country.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12077995\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12077995\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_001-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_001-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_001-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_001-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A protester’s head, marked with “No Kings,” is seen during a rally at Embarcadero Plaza in San Francisco on March 28, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Many people in the crowd carried handmade signs critical of recent actions by the Trump administration, and hundreds donned a wild array of costumes, from inflatable bald eagles to a human-size U.S. Constitution with a hole for the head. Many people also carried the U.S. flag. Rachel Strom, who wore the flag like a cape in San Francisco, said, “It was so important that we take back patriotism because the Left had been branded as ‘hating America.’ I protested because I loved America and feared the destruction of democracy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last October, over seven million people joined events in all 50 states, according to national organizers. Organizers for San Francisco’s “No Kings” rally estimate 100,000 people were in attendance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12077997\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12077997 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_009-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_009-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_009-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_009-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters walk down Market Street on their way to Civic Center during the No Kings rally in San Francisco March 28, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12078008\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12078008 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-04-KQED-3-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-04-KQED-3-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-04-KQED-3-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-04-KQED-3-1-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protestors march along Market Street in San Francisco as part of the third No Kings Protest on March 28, 2026. \u003ccite>(Martin do Nascimento/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The rallies have drawn support from groups across a range of issues, including some who say opposing the Trump administration should be the top priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are all in trouble, but the good news is we can unify and we can all come together and say, this needs to change,” said Michelle Merrill, an organizer for the San José “No Kings” rally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12078006\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12078006 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-03-KQED-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-03-KQED-2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-03-KQED-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-03-KQED-2-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Congressional candidate Saikat Chakrabarti records a video as he marches along Market Street in San Francisco as part of the third No Kings Protest on March 28, 2026. \u003ccite>(Martin do Nascimento/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12077998\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12077998\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_016-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_016-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_016-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_016-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A large crowd gathers outside City Hall as the No Kings rally continues at the Civic Center on March 28, 2026, in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The scene in downtown San José was part street protest, part block party — with a Trump piñata overhead, costumed demonstrators weaving through the crowd, musicians playing anti-war songs and hundreds of signs demanding an end to the war in Iran, ICE enforcement and what many called executive overreach.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few thousand gathered at St. James Park by noon, many saying it was their first time at a No Kings rally. Groups like South Bay Swing Left have seen membership triple over the last year as a result, said Leesa Lovelace, a San José native and organizer with the group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s all this horrible stuff happening in the world, especially in Washington, D.C.,” Lovelace said. “But to be here, you really get a sense that there are people that care, there are people that want to change things for the better.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12078003\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1777px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12078003\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/SchiffNoKing.jpg\" alt=\"A man takes a selfie.\" width=\"1777\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/SchiffNoKing.jpg 1777w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/SchiffNoKing-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/SchiffNoKing-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1777px) 100vw, 1777px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">U.S. Sen. Adam Schiff takes a selfie with attendees at the “No Kings” rally in San José on March 28, 2026. Schiff led the crowd in a call-and-response, telling them democracy must be fought for and cherished by every generation. \u003ccite>(Ayah Ali-Ahmad/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A rhythmic drumming led a procession of thousands through the streets, a cultural call to resistance that 888 Taiko Collective’s Janet Koike, a third-generation Japanese American, said was rooted in a dark chapter of local history. Koike, whose parents were interned during World War II, noted that the current political climate feels like a repeat of the past.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The phrase mou shimasen means never again,” Koike said. “I’m just grieved beyond belief that we are having to raise our voices and say never again.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rep. Sam Liccardo told the audience he hopped on an early morning flight after a late-night vote to stand with his constituents against what he described as a “circus” in the White House. Liccardo took aim at the administration’s military actions and economic policies, specifically targeting the war in Iran.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We got our women and men in uniform fighting in a war that Congress never authorized,” Liccardo said. “You have every reason to be frustrated and angry. I am too.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Adam Schiff joined the chorus of “hell no” chants, warning that democracy is not inevitable and must be “fought for and cherished by every generation.” The sentiment was echoed by South Bay Rep. Ro Khanna, who emphasized the intersection of anti-war sentiment and domestic civil rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m so proud of the big crowds that showed up,” Khanna told KQED. “Over a thousand people are here to stand up against the war in Iran… here to stand against ICE abuse. People want our democracy back.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/lsarah\">\u003cem>Lakshmi Sarah\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/aaliahmad\">Ayah Ali-Ahmad\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/wcruz\">Billy Cruz\u003c/a> contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people attended the No Kings march for the first time, but others, like Shelley Facente, had attended all three. “I felt more resolute even today,” she told KQED in San Francisco, comparing this moment to the previous ones. “It was that much more important that we double down and keep showing up.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12077996\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12077996\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_002-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_002-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_002-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_002-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Protesters hold a banner reading “End the wars, stop ICE, general strike” during a rally at Embarcadero Plaza in San Francisco on March 28, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12077986\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12077986\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-06-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-06-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-06-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260328-NO-KINGS-3-MD-06-KQED-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(From left) Amy and Sarah Blanchard rally at the Embarcadero in San Francisco before the start of the third No Kings protest on March 28, 2026. \u003ccite>(Martin do Nascimento/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Among the thousands of people taking part in the march were people of all ages. Elderly participants rode mobile scooters, and young parents hoisted their children on their shoulders. With a handmade sign in one hand and his daughter in the other, Jesse Bell made his way through the San Francisco crowd. “This was a place, this country, where we were able to gather together to say how we felt, and I wanted to take advantage of that and show my daughter the power [of people],” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This was the third No Kings event in nine months, and Kaelyn Abbott had been to all three: one in Santa Cruz, one in San José, and now San Francisco. She said so much had happened since the last protest and that “we needed to have one once a month, to be honest, in order to keep up with all the grievances people had and to keep momentum. More people were finally understanding that we really needed to stand up for our country.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12077995\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12077995\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_001-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_001-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_001-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/032826_NO-KINGS-3-_GH_001-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A protester’s head, marked with “No Kings,” is seen during a rally at Embarcadero Plaza in San Francisco on March 28, 2026. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Many people in the crowd carried handmade signs critical of recent actions by the Trump administration, and hundreds donned a wild array of costumes, from inflatable bald eagles to a human-size U.S. Constitution with a hole for the head. Many people also carried the U.S. flag. Rachel Strom, who wore the flag like a cape in San Francisco, said, “It was so important that we take back patriotism because the Left had been branded as ‘hating America.’ I protested because I loved America and feared the destruction of democracy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last October, over seven million people joined events in all 50 states, according to national organizers. 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Adam Schiff takes a selfie with attendees at the “No Kings” rally in San José on March 28, 2026. Schiff led the crowd in a call-and-response, telling them democracy must be fought for and cherished by every generation. \u003ccite>(Ayah Ali-Ahmad/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A rhythmic drumming led a procession of thousands through the streets, a cultural call to resistance that 888 Taiko Collective’s Janet Koike, a third-generation Japanese American, said was rooted in a dark chapter of local history. Koike, whose parents were interned during World War II, noted that the current political climate feels like a repeat of the past.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The phrase mou shimasen means never again,” Koike said. “I’m just grieved beyond belief that we are having to raise our voices and say never again.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rep. 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