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Federal workers have said they were told \u003ca href=\"https://healthexec.com/topics/healthcare-management/healthcare-policy/cdc-reportedly-instructed-ban-words-including-gender-and-transgender\">to retract papers\u003c/a> that contain words such as “nonbinary” or “transgender.” And some hospitals suspended gender-affirming care such as hormone therapy and puberty blockers for youths.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocacy groups say the orders discriminate and pose barriers to medically necessary care, and transgender children and their families have filed a number of court challenges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawyers, advocates, and researchers say implementation of many of Project 2025’s health policy goals poses a threat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The playbook presents an antiscience, antidata and antimedicine agenda,” according to a \u003ca href=\"https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2824058\">piece last year\u003c/a> by Boston University researchers in JAMA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Project 2025 blueprint sets out goals to curb access to medication abortion, restructure public health agencies, and weaken protections against sex-based discrimination. It would have seniors enroll by default in Medicare Advantage plans run by commercial insurers, in essence privatizing the health program for older Americans. And it calls for eliminating coverage requirements for Affordable Care Act plans that people buy without federal subsidies, which, insurance experts say, risks leaving people underinsured.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s the agenda of the Trump administration,” said Robert Weissman, a co-president of Public Citizen, a progressive consumer rights advocacy group. “It’s to minimize access to care under the guise of strict work requirements in Medicaid, privatizing Medicare, and rolling back consumer protections and subsidies in the Affordable Care Act.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The White House didn’t respond to a message seeking comment. Conservatives have said implementation of the project’s proposals would curb waste and fraud in federal health programs and free health systems from the clutches of a radical “woke” agenda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Americans are tired of their government being used against them,” Paul Dans, a lawyer and former director of Project 2025, \u003ca href=\"https://www.heritage.org/press/project-2025-reaches-100-coalition-partners-continues-grow-preparation-next-president\">said last year\u003c/a> in a statement. “The administrative state is, at best, completely out of touch with the American people and, at worst, is weaponized against them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dans did not return messages seeking comment for this article.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Heritage Foundation has sought to separate itself and Project 2025 from Trump’s executive orders and other initiatives on health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This isn’t about our recommendations in Project 2025 — something we’ve been doing for more than 40 years. This is about President Trump delivering on his promises to make America safer, stronger, and better than ever before, and he and his team deserve the credit,” Ellen Keenan, a spokesperson for Heritage, said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/health-brief-project-2025-department-of-life-hhs/\">Versions of the document\u003c/a> have been produced roughly every four years since the 1980s and have influenced other GOP presidents. Former President Ronald Reagan adopted about two-thirds of the recommendations from an earlier Heritage guide, the group said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In some instances, the Trump administration hasn’t just followed Project 2025’s proposals but has gone beyond them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The document called on the next president to scale back and “deradicalize” the U.S. Agency for International Development, an independent federal agency that provides foreign aid and assistance, including for many international health programs. The administration hasn’t just scaled back USAID. Trump adviser Elon Musk bragged on his social media platform, X, that his “Department of Government Efficiency” fed the agency “\u003ca href=\"https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886307316804263979?lang=en\">into the wood chipper\u003c/a>,” physically closing its offices and putting nearly all its staff on administrative leave while ending funding for its programs and disseminating misinformation about them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, the administration risks waning public support if it adopts the project’s goals to upend U.S. health care and health policy. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Congressional Republicans are contemplating a budget plan that could result in \u003ca href=\"https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/02/12/congress/house-budget-draft-00002390\">hundreds of billions of dollars\u003c/a> being trimmed from Medicaid over 10 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Project 2025 called for expanding access to \u003ca href=\"https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/key-flaws-of-short-term-health-plans-pose-risks-to-consumers\">health plans that don’t comply\u003c/a> with the Affordable Care Act’s strongest consumer protections. That may lead to more choice and lower monthly premiums for buyers, but unwitting consumers may face potentially massive out-of-pocket costs for care the plans won’t cover.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Project 2025 called for halting Medicaid funding to Planned Parenthood affiliates. The organization, an important health care provider for women across the country, gets roughly $700 million annually from Medicaid and other government programs, based on \u003ca href=\"https://www.plannedparenthood.org/uploads/filer_public/bf/a3/bfa35e39-14e5-43c3-8192-de42ed9309f1/2024-ppfa-annualreport-c3-digital.pdf\">its 2022–23 report\u003c/a>. Abortion made up about 4% of services the organization provided to patients, the report said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The administration’s steps to scrub words such as “equity” from federal documents, erase transgender identifiers, and \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886102414194835755\">curtail international medical aid\u003c/a> — all part of the Project 2025 wish list — have already had sweeping ramifications, hobbling access to health care and eviscerating international programs that aim to prevent disease and improve maternal health outcomes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under a \u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/memorandum-for-the-secretary-of-state-the-secretary-of-defense-the-secretary-of-health-and-human-services-the-administrator-of-the-united-states-for-international-development/\">memorandum issued in January\u003c/a>, for example, Trump reinstated and expanded a ban on federal funds to global organizations that provide legal information on abortions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Studies have found that the ban, known as the “global gag rule” or “Mexico City Policy,” has stripped millions of dollars away from foreign aid groups that didn’t abide by it. It also had \u003ca href=\"https://ghrp.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s41256-019-0113-3\">a chilling effect\u003c/a>: In Zambia, one group removed information in brochures on contraception, and in Turkey, some providers stopped talking with patients about menstrual regulation as a form of family planning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Project 2025 called on the next president to reinstate the gag rule, saying it “should be drafted broadly to apply to all foreign assistance.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump also signed an executive order rolling back transgender rights by \u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-children-from-chemical-and-surgical-mutilation/\">banning federal funds\u003c/a> for transition-related care for people under age 19. \u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/\">An order he signed\u003c/a> also directed the federal government to recognize only two sexes, male and female, and use the term “sex” instead of “gender.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Project 2025 document calls for deleting the term “gender identity” from federal rules, regulations, and grants and for unwinding policies and procedures that its authors say are used to advance a “radical redefinition of sex.” In addition, it states that Department of Health and Human Services programs should “protect children’s minds and bodies.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Radical actors inside and outside government are promoting harmful identity politics that replaces biological sex with subjective notions of ‘gender identity,’” the Project 2025 road map reads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://flo.uri.sh/visualisation/21719665/embed?auto=1\" width=\"800\" height=\"1600\" scrolling=\"yes\" class=\"iframe-class\" frameborder=\"0\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Data disappears\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>As a result of Trump’s order on gender identity, health researchers say, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention \u003ca href=\"https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/public-health/removal-pages-cdc-website-brings-confusion-dismay\">took down online information\u003c/a> about transgender health and removed data on LGBTQ+ health. A federal judge on Feb. 11 ordered that much of the information be restored; the administration complied but \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/data-research/facts-stats/transgender-people.html\">added notices to some webpages\u003c/a> labeling them “extremely inaccurate” and claiming they don’t “reflect biological reality.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The CDC also delayed the release of information and findings on bird flu in the agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. Federal workers have said they were told \u003ca href=\"https://healthexec.com/topics/healthcare-management/healthcare-policy/cdc-reportedly-instructed-ban-words-including-gender-and-transgender\">to retract papers\u003c/a> that contain words such as “nonbinary” or “transgender.” And some hospitals suspended gender-affirming care such as hormone therapy and puberty blockers for youths.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocacy groups say the orders discriminate and pose barriers to medically necessary care, and transgender children and their families have filed a number of court challenges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawyers, advocates, and researchers say implementation of many of Project 2025’s health policy goals poses a threat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The playbook presents an antiscience, antidata and antimedicine agenda,” according to a \u003ca href=\"https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2824058\">piece last year\u003c/a> by Boston University researchers in JAMA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Project 2025 blueprint sets out goals to curb access to medication abortion, restructure public health agencies, and weaken protections against sex-based discrimination. It would have seniors enroll by default in Medicare Advantage plans run by commercial insurers, in essence privatizing the health program for older Americans. And it calls for eliminating coverage requirements for Affordable Care Act plans that people buy without federal subsidies, which, insurance experts say, risks leaving people underinsured.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s the agenda of the Trump administration,” said Robert Weissman, a co-president of Public Citizen, a progressive consumer rights advocacy group. “It’s to minimize access to care under the guise of strict work requirements in Medicaid, privatizing Medicare, and rolling back consumer protections and subsidies in the Affordable Care Act.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The White House didn’t respond to a message seeking comment. Conservatives have said implementation of the project’s proposals would curb waste and fraud in federal health programs and free health systems from the clutches of a radical “woke” agenda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Americans are tired of their government being used against them,” Paul Dans, a lawyer and former director of Project 2025, \u003ca href=\"https://www.heritage.org/press/project-2025-reaches-100-coalition-partners-continues-grow-preparation-next-president\">said last year\u003c/a> in a statement. “The administrative state is, at best, completely out of touch with the American people and, at worst, is weaponized against them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dans did not return messages seeking comment for this article.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Heritage Foundation has sought to separate itself and Project 2025 from Trump’s executive orders and other initiatives on health.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This isn’t about our recommendations in Project 2025 — something we’ve been doing for more than 40 years. This is about President Trump delivering on his promises to make America safer, stronger, and better than ever before, and he and his team deserve the credit,” Ellen Keenan, a spokesperson for Heritage, said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/health-brief-project-2025-department-of-life-hhs/\">Versions of the document\u003c/a> have been produced roughly every four years since the 1980s and have influenced other GOP presidents. Former President Ronald Reagan adopted about two-thirds of the recommendations from an earlier Heritage guide, the group said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In some instances, the Trump administration hasn’t just followed Project 2025’s proposals but has gone beyond them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The document called on the next president to scale back and “deradicalize” the U.S. Agency for International Development, an independent federal agency that provides foreign aid and assistance, including for many international health programs. The administration hasn’t just scaled back USAID. 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"content": "\u003cp>“\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101906159/whats-inside-project-2025\">Project 2025,” the 900-page right-wing\u003c/a> policy agenda by allies of former President Donald Trump, has \u003ca href=\"https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=Project%202025&hl=en\">entered the mainstream in the last month\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite Trump’s claims that he has nothing to do with the extensive document — authored by the conservative Heritage Foundation think tank — many of its authors and supporters are Trump allies, former and current Trump staffers and \u003ca href=\"https://newrepublic.com/article/184393/jd-vance-violent-foreword-kevin-roberts-project-2025-leader-book\">even his vice presidential pick\u003c/a>. The lengthy treatise puts forth concrete plans for the next Republican administration to consolidate presidential power, sideline critics and \u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/politics/360318/project-2025-trump-policies-abortion-divorce\">implement an extreme religious-right social agenda\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11993255/if-trump-wins-project-2025\">It’s not just a policy agenda, though\u003c/a>: The Heritage Foundation has also created a personnel database of pre-vetted conservatives who could serve in the next GOP administration; a training program to get potential personnel up to speed; and a secret plan for the first 180 days of a new Republican administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, Heritage announced that its director, Paul Gans, was stepping down but that \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/07/30/g-s1-14455/project-2025-trump-heritage\">Project 2025’s work would now instead be led by its president, Kevin Roberts.\u003c/a> But what is in Project 2025, and how achievable are its aims?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED’s Political Breakdown podcast spoke to Philip Bump, national columnist for \u003cem>The\u003c/em> \u003cem>Washington Post\u003c/em>, to dig into Project 2025 as a right-wing “wish list,” why Trump keeps attempting to publicly disavow it, and how fast a second Trump administration could be able to enact such plans starting January 2025.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keep reading for the takeaways from their conversation with Bump about Project 2025, or listen to the audio below (the Project 2025 conversation begins at 10:53.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC7758550327\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>There’s a reason Trump hasn’t provided many concrete presidential policy plans himself\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Phillip Bump: \u003c/strong>Over the course of the Republican primary, especially before he really started to gain ground against Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Trump started to do these little videos articulating what they called Agenda 47: What he would do when he came back in office. And most of them were very responsive to whatever the hot issue on Fox News, and in the right, happened to be at the moment … all these really random things.\u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/18/trump-has-unveiled-an-agenda-his-own-he-just-doesnt-mention-it-much/\"> [See Bump’s searchable tool for Agenda 47 for \u003cem>The Washington Post\u003c/em>.] \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But fundamentally … he doesn’t want to offer a lot of specifics. This is a guy whose career prior to becoming a politician was a salesman — and not only was he a salesman, he was a guy selling real estate in New York. Which is, you know, like selling used cars in Topeka. This is not someone whose track record of salesmanship is rooted in the most robust ethics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so he doesn’t \u003cem>want \u003c/em>to commit. He wants to tell people what he wants to tell them in order to make the sale, and so that means being very vague. He frames this as being part of his art in negotiation. … But it’s really fundamentally about telling as few people as possible something they don’t want to hear so that he can maximize the number of people who might be receptive to his candidacy.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>It benefits Trump to deny any association with Project 2025\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>First of all, I think it’s fundamentally dishonest. You can’t both say, “I know nothing about Project 2025” and “I disagree with some of its elements.” Like that doesn’t make sense, right? But it is about recognizing that \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/07/11/nx-s1-5035272/project-2025-trump-biden-heritage-foundation-conservative\">Project 2025 establishes something for Democrats to point at\u003c/a> — it says, “Here are the things that Donald Trump would do.” And it does so very credibly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Heritage Foundation, which put together Project 2025, did tap a lot of people from Trump World, in part because that’s the locus of power within the political right at this point in time. It has people like John McEntee, who was basically in charge of staffing at the tail end of the Trump administration. It has Russ Vought, who used to run [the U.S. Office of Management and Budget] and has been talked about as being potentially Trump’s chief of staff. And a number of other individuals who participated in Donald Trump’s administration and who are now saying, “Here’s what we think the government should do, should a conservative return to power in the White House” — which, of course, means should Donald Trump be elected in 2024 and take office in 2025.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, for the Trump campaign, it is crucially urgent … to get people to think that Project 2025 is something else that isn’t theirs, isn’t what they want to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Trump’s campaign was not prepared for their 2016 win — but Project 2025 shows how they’d hit the ground running this time\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>I think that part of it is a response to the way in which Trump took power in 2017. It’s important to remember, of course, that no one expected Donald Trump to be taking the presidency. The polling up until the very end showed that he was likely to lose.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then, of course, he took power, and he came into the White House with this amalgamation of both the establishment side of the GOP — Reince Priebus, who used to run the actual RNC, and then he had Steve Bannon, representing the fringe right on the other side. And he tried to mesh those things together, and he didn’t know what the balance of his power was, and he was concerned about reelection and all these aspects that were in place in 2017 that won’t be in 2025.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“We take a lot of exception with Joe Biden. But the one thing I do credit his team with was being prepared. So they were signing things all week long the first week, and we are going to be doing the same. We are now in the course of drafting these executive orders, and rethinking and identifying the stuff that needs to come down. We’re not going to wait and do this in the 90 days between the election. We’re going to be doing this as a team, as an entire movement years ahead.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>– Paul Gans, the now-departed director of the Heritage Foundation\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>So [Trump]’s returning to the White House, should he win the election this year, with a clearer sense of purpose — with a better understanding of where the boundaries are, with no concern about being reelected down the road. And with an entire movement already lined up behind him to affect the things that he wants to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which, of course, are really the things that \u003cem>they \u003c/em>want.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>A major focus of Project 2025 is reshaping the federal government — quickly\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Among [the 2025 plans] is this plan to very dramatically overhaul the federal government, to get rid of as many federal governments [sic] as they possibly can so that they can be replaced with Trump sympathizers. And to do so in the context of having already tested the limits and seeing where the limits don’t really exist, and seeing limits removed by the Supreme Court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For a long time, the core focus of the political right was to unwind the power of government. And that has been reshaped in the Trump era to imbue a lot more power in the presidency for presidents who don’t carry a “D” on their ballot assignation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Everyone, I think, recognizes that Donald Trump himself doesn’t care a whole lot about what policies are implemented. And so what they’re trying to do is get a big cadre of people together who \u003cem>do \u003c/em>care about it, to give Donald Trump the mechanism to actually overhaul as much of the government as possible and then put these people in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Project 2025 is about things like identifying who can move into these positions, who should be hired, who can serve in cabinet positions, but who can also serve in government agencies. And there is a training program that is for people who are interested in coming and learning about the ideals that the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025 are trying to have government employees arrive in D.C. with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is this broad effort to overhaul the government — in a way that it is responsive to the will of the president.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11998326\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1024px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11998326\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/GettyImages-2163946228.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/GettyImages-2163946228.jpg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/GettyImages-2163946228-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/GettyImages-2163946228-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/GettyImages-2163946228-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An exterior view of The Heritage Foundation building on July 30, 2024, in Washington, D.C. \u003ccite>(Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>When it comes to removing government workers in 2025, there aren’t as many guardrails as you’d think\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Trump tried to do this at the tail end of his presidency and introduce a new category for federal officials called Schedule F, which would make it easier to fire a number of people. He tried to implement that. It didn’t take hold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Biden reversed the decision, came into office, and then tried to put in some roadblocks to keep doing that. But there really is broad power that [Trump]’s got to effect the changes, the bureaucracies he wants to see.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He’s also, of course, empowered by a Supreme Court that has shown a lot of deference to the worldview that Donald Trump represents. I mean, if this comes down to a fight at the Supreme Court between federal employees and Donald Trump in terms of where power should lie, it’s pretty obvious where the Supreme Court’s going to land.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Project 2025 is a wishlist that goes beyond reshaping government\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>I think it’s important to recognize, too, that when we talk about this, it’s sort of a wish list that the people who, for a long time, have been frustrated with particular aspects of the federal government are happy to put down on paper. “Oh, well, we should get rid of this agency or that agency,” and so on and so forth. There’s a lot of that sort of thing that exists in Project 2025, or at least in this 900-page document.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/politics/360318/project-2025-trump-policies-abortion-divorce\">There’s also a lot of social issues\u003c/a>: things like overhauling the ways in which people can be charged with crimes for alleged voter fraud; things that are responsive to Donald Trump’s efforts to try and claim that the 2020 election was stolen. There are changes, potentially, in the ways in which divorce is handled in the United States.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is really a wish list of: if you have heard a conservative or a Republican say, “Hey, wouldn’t it be great if?” over the course of the past 20 years, the odds are good that they got someone to write up 300 words and put it in this document explaining why this should be part of the next administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/politics/360318/project-2025-trump-policies-abortion-divorce\">[See Vox’s roundup of what is — and isn’t — in Project 2025, including plans to restrict abortion and contraceptives.]\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>It won’t necessarily matter if Project 2025 isn’t ‘popular’ with most Americans\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Part of the reason the Trump campaign is freaked out [about being associated with Project 2025] is because they don’t want to be tied to this thing, because they \u003cem>know \u003c/em>there are aspects of it that can be picked out and pointed to that are not popular. Even his vague statement about how he disagrees with some of what’s in there, they can apply that to whatever they want to apply to, to say that he disagrees with it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s important to recognize, too, that all of this is predicated on, to some extent, the minority position having more power. The minority position in 2016 was that Donald Trump should not be president. And then he won because of the Electoral College.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Supreme Court that scaled back \u003ca href=\"https://www.nrdc.org/stories/what-happens-if-supreme-court-ends-chevron-deference\">Chevron deference\u003c/a> and that \u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-due-rule-trumps-immunity-bid-blockbuster-case-2024-07-01/\">gave Trump — or presidents — immunity\u003c/a> was one that was appointed. Three of the justices were appointed by Trump after he won only because he liked the Electoral College. Four of the six Republican-nominated justices got votes from senators who represent less than half of the country right there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unless he wins the popular vote in November, which is possible … the ways in which he wields power, or plans to wield power, are based on a minority of Americans getting their way.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>The Heritage Foundation behind Project 2025 has openly spoken of ‘revolution’\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>– Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>The Heritage Foundation was, for a long time, one of the key think tanks on the right in Washington, D.C. And it did the work that right-wing think tanks usually do, which is put together policy proposals and advocate for a reduction in the size of government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But unlike some other think tanks, it really leaned into the power shift that accompanied Donald Trump. And part of it, I think, is the advent of Roberts, who has only been there for a couple of years — and the Heritage Foundation has really perceptively shifted in tone since Roberts has been in charge.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think his “revolution” comments were obviously alarming and, frankly, from the context of the head of the Heritage Foundation, unprecedented. And it was striking to me because he was basically saying that we’re in the process of a second American Revolution, but what he and Project 2025 are advocating for — if we extend that analogy — is not an increase in freedom and independence as the first revolution was fought, but a return to the monarchy and establishing a very powerful, unchecked political figure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So it’s sort of another revolution — in reverse. And I think we’re all praying that it remains “bloodless.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>“\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101906159/whats-inside-project-2025\">Project 2025,” the 900-page right-wing\u003c/a> policy agenda by allies of former President Donald Trump, has \u003ca href=\"https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=Project%202025&hl=en\">entered the mainstream in the last month\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite Trump’s claims that he has nothing to do with the extensive document — authored by the conservative Heritage Foundation think tank — many of its authors and supporters are Trump allies, former and current Trump staffers and \u003ca href=\"https://newrepublic.com/article/184393/jd-vance-violent-foreword-kevin-roberts-project-2025-leader-book\">even his vice presidential pick\u003c/a>. The lengthy treatise puts forth concrete plans for the next Republican administration to consolidate presidential power, sideline critics and \u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/politics/360318/project-2025-trump-policies-abortion-divorce\">implement an extreme religious-right social agenda\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11993255/if-trump-wins-project-2025\">It’s not just a policy agenda, though\u003c/a>: The Heritage Foundation has also created a personnel database of pre-vetted conservatives who could serve in the next GOP administration; a training program to get potential personnel up to speed; and a secret plan for the first 180 days of a new Republican administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, Heritage announced that its director, Paul Gans, was stepping down but that \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/07/30/g-s1-14455/project-2025-trump-heritage\">Project 2025’s work would now instead be led by its president, Kevin Roberts.\u003c/a> But what is in Project 2025, and how achievable are its aims?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED’s Political Breakdown podcast spoke to Philip Bump, national columnist for \u003cem>The\u003c/em> \u003cem>Washington Post\u003c/em>, to dig into Project 2025 as a right-wing “wish list,” why Trump keeps attempting to publicly disavow it, and how fast a second Trump administration could be able to enact such plans starting January 2025.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keep reading for the takeaways from their conversation with Bump about Project 2025, or listen to the audio below (the Project 2025 conversation begins at 10:53.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC7758550327\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This interview has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>There’s a reason Trump hasn’t provided many concrete presidential policy plans himself\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Phillip Bump: \u003c/strong>Over the course of the Republican primary, especially before he really started to gain ground against Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Trump started to do these little videos articulating what they called Agenda 47: What he would do when he came back in office. And most of them were very responsive to whatever the hot issue on Fox News, and in the right, happened to be at the moment … all these really random things.\u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/18/trump-has-unveiled-an-agenda-his-own-he-just-doesnt-mention-it-much/\"> [See Bump’s searchable tool for Agenda 47 for \u003cem>The Washington Post\u003c/em>.] \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But fundamentally … he doesn’t want to offer a lot of specifics. This is a guy whose career prior to becoming a politician was a salesman — and not only was he a salesman, he was a guy selling real estate in New York. Which is, you know, like selling used cars in Topeka. This is not someone whose track record of salesmanship is rooted in the most robust ethics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so he doesn’t \u003cem>want \u003c/em>to commit. He wants to tell people what he wants to tell them in order to make the sale, and so that means being very vague. He frames this as being part of his art in negotiation. … But it’s really fundamentally about telling as few people as possible something they don’t want to hear so that he can maximize the number of people who might be receptive to his candidacy.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>It benefits Trump to deny any association with Project 2025\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>First of all, I think it’s fundamentally dishonest. You can’t both say, “I know nothing about Project 2025” and “I disagree with some of its elements.” Like that doesn’t make sense, right? But it is about recognizing that \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/07/11/nx-s1-5035272/project-2025-trump-biden-heritage-foundation-conservative\">Project 2025 establishes something for Democrats to point at\u003c/a> — it says, “Here are the things that Donald Trump would do.” And it does so very credibly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Heritage Foundation, which put together Project 2025, did tap a lot of people from Trump World, in part because that’s the locus of power within the political right at this point in time. It has people like John McEntee, who was basically in charge of staffing at the tail end of the Trump administration. It has Russ Vought, who used to run [the U.S. Office of Management and Budget] and has been talked about as being potentially Trump’s chief of staff. And a number of other individuals who participated in Donald Trump’s administration and who are now saying, “Here’s what we think the government should do, should a conservative return to power in the White House” — which, of course, means should Donald Trump be elected in 2024 and take office in 2025.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, for the Trump campaign, it is crucially urgent … to get people to think that Project 2025 is something else that isn’t theirs, isn’t what they want to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Trump’s campaign was not prepared for their 2016 win — but Project 2025 shows how they’d hit the ground running this time\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>I think that part of it is a response to the way in which Trump took power in 2017. It’s important to remember, of course, that no one expected Donald Trump to be taking the presidency. The polling up until the very end showed that he was likely to lose.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then, of course, he took power, and he came into the White House with this amalgamation of both the establishment side of the GOP — Reince Priebus, who used to run the actual RNC, and then he had Steve Bannon, representing the fringe right on the other side. And he tried to mesh those things together, and he didn’t know what the balance of his power was, and he was concerned about reelection and all these aspects that were in place in 2017 that won’t be in 2025.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“We take a lot of exception with Joe Biden. But the one thing I do credit his team with was being prepared. So they were signing things all week long the first week, and we are going to be doing the same. We are now in the course of drafting these executive orders, and rethinking and identifying the stuff that needs to come down. We’re not going to wait and do this in the 90 days between the election. 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