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Local officials said ICE does not appear to have warrants or be targeting individuals with criminal backgrounds or final deportation orders.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Although local rapid response agencies said Friday that they hadn’t yet seen increased ICE activity, there have been rumors and fears that the preelection surge could extend to Northern California.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We are definitely on the alert and preparing in case of increased ICE activity or large-scale raids in our region,” said Lourdes Martinez, co-director of the Alameda County Immigration Legal and Education Partnership, the county’s rapid response network. “We have not been able to verify any specifics, so we are monitoring the situation.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250718-RidealongRapidResponse-02-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12052237\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250718-RidealongRapidResponse-02-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250718-RidealongRapidResponse-02-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250718-RidealongRapidResponse-02-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A dispatcher for the Rapid Response Network gathers supplies at the group’s office in San José on July 21, 2025. 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Anna Caballero, who represents parts of Fresno and Merced, said she had heard of an estimated 60 arrests this week within the communities she represents.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“There are over 60 detainees, and the facility in downtown Fresno is having trouble processing,” Caballero’s spokesperson Elisa Rivera wrote to KQED. “Legal observers are having little success gaining access.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We also had a young person call our office after both of his parents were picked up,” Caballero said. “He did not know where to turn or what he was supposed to do.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In Fresno County’s city of Kerman alone, Mayor Maria Pacheco said eight residents were detained between Wednesday and Thursday. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“These are people with families, jobs and lives here in Kerman,” she said. “As Mayor, I refuse to accept that residents should be afraid to carry out the most ordinary parts of their day.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Pacheco said she has been aiding affected families to locate their detained relatives and get legal assistance. She added that Kerman police do not work with ICE on immigration enforcement operations. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Our local police officers have a different responsibility. They serve our residents, protect our community and work to keep Kerman safe,” she said. “What we are witnessing from ICE does the opposite.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1760\" height=\"1320\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/immigrants-central-valley-6751c0512ec92.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12016800\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/immigrants-central-valley-6751c0512ec92.jpg 1760w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/immigrants-central-valley-6751c0512ec92-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/immigrants-central-valley-6751c0512ec92-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/immigrants-central-valley-6751c0512ec92-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/immigrants-central-valley-6751c0512ec92-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1760px) 100vw, 1760px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Maria Pacheco, mayor of Kerman, California, speaks at a press conference in Fresno calling for the protection of undocumented immigrants following President-elect Donald Trump’s win. (Esther Quintanilla/KVPR)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Four men were detained while getting pan dulce and coffee on their way to work,” Pacheco continued. “How does that make Kerman safer? …. Fear is not public safety.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>East Bay Rep. Lateefah Simon said in a statement that local elected leaders and community organizations will “stand by our communities and continue to be fully opposed to the Trump administration’s unwanted, unwarranted, and illegal immigration enforcement actions.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>She said she believes Trump is trying to “intimidate, terrorize and tear apart immigrant families” before the Nov. 3 midterm elections.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Earlier this year, Trump claimed without proof that the DHS had identified more than \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2026/07/31/nx-s1-5906708/trump-claim-noncitizens-midterms-election-interference-voter-rolls\">250,000 non-U.S. citizens\u003c/a> on voter rolls between four states, including California, reigniting fears about whether the administration will interfere with vote-counting.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“My office has resources for immigrant communities to ensure everyone knows their rights and can assist in immigration casework,” she said in a statement. “We know what Republicans are trying to do — intimidate Latino citizens so they stay at home and don’t exercise their right to vote, and we will not stand for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#Transcript\">View Full Episode Transcript\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In 2016,\u003cstrong> \u003c/strong>Nancy Pelosi was planning on retiring from Congress. But Donald Trump’s presidential victory disrupted her plans, and her legacy. Pelosi’s public battles with the President cemented her status as a liberal warrior – spearheading two impeachments and navigating the January 6th attack. But to some in her caucus, including the young progressives of “The Squad,” Pelosi’s approach wasn’t enough to address a new wave of populism and a growing mistrust of government. And amidst this politically fraught landscape, did Pelosi’s actions around stock trading — or inaction, according to some — add fuel to the fire?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"Transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Last episode, we focused on the Affordable Care Act, which then Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi pushed through Congress. But when you ask people about Pelosi, like our producer Ariella Markowitz did on the streets in DC, something else tends to come up. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ariella Markowitz: \u003c/strong>What comes to mind when you think of Nancy Pelosi?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vox 1: \u003c/strong>Man, California, stocks, stock trades, that’s funny. Insider stock trading. He defends that, he’s gotten quite wealthy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vox 2:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>She has manipulated her position and used it to her benefit.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>It’s something her opponents bring up a lot. Here’s President Trump earlier this year during his State of the Union address. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>Let’s also ensure that members of Congress cannot corruptly profit from using insider information. They stood up for that, I can’t believe it. Did Nancy Pelosi stand up if she’s here? Doubt it. Pass the Stop Insider Trading Act without delay. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>A few months later, the House passed a stock trading ban for members of Congress, and Nancy Pelosi voted against it. Some Democrats had an issue with the bill because it included an unrelated voter ID provision, which many critics say is really a way of suppressing Democratic turnout in elections. And the stock trading bill? It wouldn’t have applied if it were the president. Profiteering by President Trump and his family, including prolific stock trading, are a trademark of his second term. But to many, the name Pelosi triggers allegations of corruption. In her second run as Speaker, Pelosi and President Trump became full-on enemies, locked in public brawls that would define both of their legacies. But Pelosi doesn’t really want to go there.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>I don’t spend a whole lot of time talking about Trump, so…\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>I know he’s not your favorite.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, it’s not my favorite compared to almost any creature crawling the earth. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Still, this creature has defined her final chapter in unexpected ways. From KQED, this is The Speaker. I’m Scott Shafer. Today, how Pelosi responds to what she and many see as a fundamental threat to democracy. President Trump. And with faith in the Democratic Party and public trust in U.S. Institutions at their lowest in decades, the shadow that hangs over her legacy. Accusations of insider stock trading in Congress. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Pelosi says she planned on retiring after the 2016 election. She would have been 76 years old, and she was assuming that a Democrat would win. You were really ready to say, that’s it, I’m done.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Well, I was ready to say it a number of times, but I only thought I would go 10 years. I never thought I’d run for Congress, much less for leadership. And then the members, you have to stay, you have stay, you to stay. And so I did.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>She thought her crowning achievement, the Affordable Care Act, her baby, would be protected under a President Hillary Clinton. On November 8, 2016, Pelosi was in Washington with her colleagues, waiting for the returns to come in.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>One of my colleagues was the chairman of the party in Philadelphia. And we were getting returns from him saying, they told us if we got over 500,000 in Philadelphia, we would carry Pennsylvania. So one night he’d say, it’s getting closer, but we’re okay, it was getting closer. Then finally he said, you know, the turnout from McCall, but you know just naming the names of some counties is just unprecedented. We’re not gonna be able to offset it. I was like getting kicked in the back by a mule.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>During his first campaign for president, Trump had leaned into people’s cynicism and mistrust of politicians.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>If we win on November 8th, we are going to drain the swamp in Washington, D.C. We’re draining the swamp.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>After he won, President Trump issued a flurry of executive orders and policies. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>President Trump’s most recent executive order effectively banned citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. For at least 90 days. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>Today President Donald Trump is continuing to defend his administration’s policy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>When you prosecute the parents for coming in illegally, which should happen, you have to take the children away. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>And, in 2017, when white supremacists rallied in Charlottesville, Virginia? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>There are people, bodies laying on the ground right now.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>NAZIS GO HOME! \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In response to the violence, Trump said this.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>Very fine people on both sides \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In the midst of all this, Pelosi and Democrats campaigned hard to defeat Republicans in the 2018 midterms. But economic unrest was starting to influence the Democratic Party’s politics. For years there had been discontent on the left about the 2008 bailout and economic disparity. A movement called Occupy Wall Street kicked off in 2011. The slogan was, we are the 99 percent. In 2016, Senator Bernie Sanders had been a grassroots presidential candidate, and he was popular. More than 40 percent of people who voted in the primaries wanted him to be the nominee.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bernie Sanders: \u003c/strong>The reason that we have done so well, the reason I believe we’re going to do so well in the Hampshire and in the other states that follow, the reason is the American people are saying no to a rigged economy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Sanders had run on a message about economic inequality.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bernie Sanders: \u003c/strong>They no longer want to see an economy in which the average American works longer hours for low wages while almost all new income and wealth is going to the top 1%.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Some people argue that this energy helped Democrats take back the House in 2018, two years into Trump’s presidency. They’d been out of power since the Tea Party had stormed into Congress almost a decade earlier. That election night, Pelosi took the stage again to the chants of \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Thank you all, thank you all very much, remember this feeling, know the power to win. Today is more than about Democrats and Republicans, it’s about restoring the Constitution’s checks and balances to the Trump administration.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>And with that election, a wave of newcomers with bold ideas, including four progressive women who became known as the Squad. Ayanna Pressley from Massachusetts, Rashida Tlaib from Michigan, Ilhan Omar from Minnesota, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, AOC, from New York. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: \u003c/strong>I think what we’ve seen is that working-class Americans want a clear champion and there is nothing radical about moral clarity in 2018.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>AOC is a democratic socialist, like Bernie Sanders. She defeated Joe Crowley, one of Pelosi’s top deputies in leadership. Many had actually seen Crowley as the person best positioned to become speaker after Pelosi left. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>He didn’t pay enough attention to his district. That, you know, that’s really what it is. It was an election in the summer. So I had very low turnout. I mean, he was predicating his success on how things go in a full election. But AOC ran a great campaign and it was stunning because he’s terrific and respected and he was chair of the caucus, I think, at the time. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Needless to say, there was some friction between the new members and the old guard. Before being sworn in, AOC joined a climate protest outside Pelosi’s office. People are holding yellow signs that say Green Jobs for All.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: \u003c/strong>I just want to let you all know how proud I am of each and every single one of you for putting yourselves and your bodies and everything on the line to make sure that we save our planet, our generation, and our home.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Pelosi told me she was the wrong target for their protest.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>They should not have been in my office as a start because we had done more on climate than anybody.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Once they won back the House, some new, younger members were among those questioning whether Pelosi was the right leader for the House Democrats. But after cutting some deals, Pelosi was easily elected speaker for a second time. The squad cast their votes for her, too. Her swearing in was joyous.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>I’d like to call my grandchildren up to be here when I take you, and any other children who want to join them. Come on, kids. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>She’d have her work cut out for her. In June of 2019, the House was considering an appropriations bill that would provide funds to process and detain migrants at the border, but also for an emergency food and shelter program, money to help deal with what people were calling a humanitarian crisis. This bill was being debated a year after the Trump administration rolled out and then backed down on a policy that criminally prosecuted all adults crossing the border without papers. The Zero Tolerance Policy meant children were separated from their parents. It was something AOC spoke about at an oversight committee hearing in July 2019. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: \u003c/strong>And what was worse about this, Mr. Chairman, was the fact that there were American flags hanging all over these facilities, that children being separated from their parents in front of an American flag.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Progressives didn’t want to give more money to the agencies that carried out Trump’s harsh border policies. Pelosi and other Democratic leaders negotiated with them, added additional health and safety standards for migrant children to the bill, but the squad still defected. They were the only Democrats to vote no on the House bill. You described the squad as just four votes. It was. That’s what it was. It was four votes This may sound harsh, but it’s how Pelosi sees things. They were a small obstacle that didn’t affect her vote count. But Pelosi would be challenged again by the progressive wing when she had to give up the House bill with stronger protections for a Senate version. She was disappointed that Senate Democrats hadn’t fought for a better bill, but she decided to compromise and push it through. That caused public outrage from House progressives. AOC took her issues with Pelosi public. She said in an interview with the Washington Post… That she felt the squad had been singled out by Pelosi, implied it was because they were four women of color. AOC’s chief of staff compared centrist Democrats to segregationists on Twitter. He asked why this so-called legislative mastermind, referring to Pelosi, couldn’t get more done on kitchen table issues. By some accounts, Pelosi was furious. Even today, you can hear the annoyance in her voice.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>If you want to legislate, don’t be on airwaves criticizing the people whose votes you need. You can be here as a legislator where you need the votes of people for an issue that you may want to advance, or you can be an internet where you’re here to criticize your colleagues and expect them to vote for your bill.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In one closed-door meeting with her Democratic caucus, she told them to bring their grievances to her, not tweet about them to the public. She said at the end of the day, her goal was to help the children. She told them, some of you are here to make a beautiful pate, but we’re making sausage most of the time. Our producer Ariella asked Representative Ilhan Omar, part of the squad, about this.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ariella Markowitz: \u003c/strong>She was giving speeches about sausages versus pates and all of this. What do you think about that got under her skin? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ilhan Omar: \u003c/strong>I think she herself saw herself as a progressive and in some ways might’ve felt insulted that the progressive movement didn’t think of her as being one of them. And she felt like because she was the speaker and she’s the leader for the whole caucus and the whole House, that the decisions that she had to make had to be for the good of the whole.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Now as I thought about these showdowns between the squad and the speaker, I remember how Pelosi herself had sort of ignored Congressional norms when she got to Washington. So I asked her how she felt about AOC. I wonder if you saw a little bit of yourself in her.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, I didn’t at all.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>I don’t know. Well, wait until you hear the question. Well, you just asked it, and I said no. I mean, whatBrase I’m thinking of is when you first got there in your very first speech, you talked about AIDS. You were kind of breaking the protocol a little bit. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>She’s operational, make no mistake, some of those squads are not. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Say what you mean by that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Operational is that she knows that she wants to accomplish something. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Operational. This is one of Pelosi’s favorite words. It’s what Congresswoman Sala Burton said about Pelosi before she endorsed her back in 1987. So when Pelosi called AOC operational, this was a mark of respect. She’s learned how to get things done. Here’s the thing, Pelosi comes from progressive San Francisco. She thinks of herself as a liberal, cares about things like ending poverty, providing health care, and believes the government should be a force for good. But she values something else, too, maybe even more than anything else, being effective. It means working within a system she ultimately believes in to get things done, being willing to compromise in the process. But in this era of President Trump… Was being operational enough? Even though she loathed President Trump, Pelosi tried to enter their first meeting with an open mind. Out of respect for the institution.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>This is historic. It’s a meeting between the new president and the leadership of the Congress, bipartisan leadership in the Congress. I’ve been in that meeting many times with President Bush, Obama. It’s historic. And so I’m sitting there thinking, why don’t we begin? Will he quote the Bible? Will he talk about America and founders and what America means to us? And we talk about his family and what this… Means to him, how will he begin this meeting? He leans over on the desk like this, the table, and says, you know, I won the popular vote. It was totally offensive. So I thought, well, that’s not true. That’s not truth. And he said, well I’m not even counting California.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>The relationship went downhill from there. You may remember some of those moments, like in 2018 when Pelosi walked out of a meeting with Trump in a red coat and Armani sunglasses looking completely relaxed. She put her sunglasses on right in time for the photos. The image went viral.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>The new power suit for women, red coats, sunglasses, nerves of steel. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>I had no idea, I just put on my coat and walked out to the press, which is outside. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Or you may remember her dressed in all white, standing behind the president. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>But Nancy Pelosi became the queen of condescending applause. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Clapping sarcastically at Trump during his 2019 State of the Union address. She clearly wasn’t intimidated by him. After all, this is the same woman who called Bush incompetent on national TV and refused to apologize for it. To me, it seems like Pelosi was adapting to the moment. She was smart enough to sense that in this era of politics, it’s those viral images that stick with people, not the closed-door legislative rooms Pelosi was used cutting deals in. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>The fact is, people want to see moments. You know, I hear speeches, they want to see moments, what people are happy about is that I did that, that I pointed to him, that I walked out of the office, because it spoke to their, how they felt or believed at the time. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>She was getting under his skin. To those in the Trump 1.0 administration, Pelosi was an obstructionist. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mick Mulvaney: \u003c/strong>Nancy was just so difficult to work with. Again, she may take that as a badge of honor, and I get it, there’s a lot of Republicans who take their unwillingness to compromise with Democrats as a badge of honor. So she’s not unique in that, but she had zero interest in doing anything with Donald Trump.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>That’s Mick Mulvaney, who was President Trump’s chief of staff when Pelosi regained the speakership. We talked to him last episode, a Tea Party guy who campaigned for his House seat against the Affordable Care Act and won. He said President Trump respected Pelosi at first.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mick Mulvaney: \u003c/strong>He respects strength and that’s certainly what she has. When she was doing what she was doing, she had a margin roughly the same size that Mike Johnson has today in the House. And she was able to corral her party and he respected that. But at the end of the day, she had zero interest in being with the guy and I think the country is worse for it. If they had wanted to sit down and cut some deals, they could have had a tremendous bipartisan deal on infrastructure. I even think they could’ve had a tremendous bipartisan on immigration. But it was fight, fight, fighting the whole time. And it was bitter and poisonous.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>While Republicans felt Pelosi was just an obstacle to getting anything done, many Democrats were calling for Trump’s impeachment. But Pelosi was wary.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>People wanted to impeach him just because he was obnoxious and dyed his hair orange. Everybody had a thing of he’s not really presidential. That’s not a cause for impeachment. You know what I’m saying?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>But then, in the summer of 2019, President Trump gave Democrats their opportunity.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>I’ve said the only person who’s responsible for the impeachment of Donald Trump, not once but twice, is Donald Trump. He gave us no choice.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>A whistleblower said that in a phone call, Trump tried to get Ukrainian President Zelensky to investigate Trump’s rival in the upcoming election, Joe Biden, and his son Hunter. The White House released a transcript of the call, and President Trump tried to deflect to the debunked claim that Joe Biden was linked to a corruption scandal. And let me tell you something, Biden’s son is corrupt, and Biden is corrupt. To Pelosi, this attempt to interfere with the 2020 election was the unconstitutional violation Democrats could not ignore. This would be the grounds for the impeachment case.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>What he did was wrong. Now, different other things you could have included in that we said, you have to keep it simple. What is the thing that crosses the line, not just on its own might be grounds for impeachment, but not on the caliber of the Zelensky letter. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>But Pelosi didn’t revel in the impeachment, she actually silenced the applause after the impeachment vote with a stern glance and a hand gesture.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Article 1 is adopted. The question is on adoption of Article 2.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>You can count votes. You were probably, I’m guessing, pretty confident the Senate would not convict, right? They needed 67 votes. Why did you think it was important to go ahead and really start a process that you knew ultimately you would not?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>We did succeed. We impeached him twice. But you think that we should be guided by what the Senate might do? You think that, we would say, well, the president has committed impregnable offenses of highest magnitude, and we shouldn’t do that because we don’t know what some senators are going to do? No. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>I am thrilled to report to you tonight that our economy is the best it has ever been. Our military is completely rebuilt, with its power being unmatched anywhere in the world, and it’s not even close. It was February\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>The day before the Senate voted to acquit Trump of both impeachment charges. President Trump was giving his State of the Union speech, and Pelosi went a step further than she’d ever gone before. She was sitting behind Trump, in her house. He’d chosen that night to honor right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh, who held notoriously homophobic views. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>And Rush, in recognition of all that you have done for our nation, the millions of people a day that you speak to and that you inspire, I am proud to announce tonight that you will be receiving our country’s highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Pelosi sat there, lips pursed, looking down at the printed speech, looking away from the balcony where Limbaugh was, and toward her caucus in the audience. As Trump finished his speech, saying the best was yet to come, she stood up, not clapping, but ripping up the president’s printed remarks two or three pages at a time, biting her lip. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>I didn’t intend to do that. It just was a manifesto of lies. And I wasn’t just gonna let that stand. I just wasn’t gonna let it stand. As courteous as we are to a guest in our house, when he abuses that courtesy, when he lies there the whole time, gives a medal of freedom to an anti-gay, blah, blah, and our house. Do that at the White House. We don’t agree with your choice, but that’s your choice. You’re the president, but don’t come here and sully the House of Representatives chamber. With your obnoxious behavior. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>Pelosi, at her heart, believes in institutions. She respects the separation of powers, the three branches of government, and the staying power of those institutions. But to me, it seemed like at that moment something changed for her, not even standing with polite, respectful applause for the president as she did behind President George W. Bush for both of his State of the Union addresses when she was speaker, instead A stunning act of defiance on primetime television. Nine months later, Joe Biden won the presidential election. Trump was out. On January 6, 2021, Pelosi, along with Vice President Mike Pence, were overseeing the certification of the election. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>We didn’t anticipate violence. We didn’t expect the President of the United States to incite an insurrection.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jan 6 Archival: \u003c/strong>We’re starting to get surrounded. They’re taking the north-west scaffolding. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Protesters attack the west side of the Capitol, where presidential inauguration ceremonies are held. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Security came to me and they said we’re taking you out I said I can handle this guy you know we’re ready \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jan 6 Archival: \u003c/strong>We are walking over now to the tunnel\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>We could see on TV, because when you’re in the chamber, you can’t see. You see on tv what was happening, that they were coming to the Capitol. It’s really hard to explain. This is the citadel of democracy to the world. And these people are coming in, breaking windows, and they go in, and we’re seeing them go into the Capitol with Dixie flags, you know, Confederate flags, under the dome that Lincoln built when he was president. He built it during the Civil War. People said to him, use the steel for the war and the personnel for the War. He said. No, we have to show the world that we are resilient. So they continue with the dome. Under Lincoln’s dome, Confederate flags. One guy with a shirt, six million Jews were not enough. Auschwitz. That’s. What this was, assaulting police, all the rest of that, defecating on the floor. I say this because this brute who was president now wants to give them money for killing or endangering the lives of police officers. They were gonna get a bullet in my effing brain. They use the F word a lot about me throughout the whole thing. They were going to hang the vice president. Gallows for him.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>No doubt, many in the mob hated Pelosi. They came looking for her. They broke into her speaker’s office. A man put his feet up on her desk. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jan 6 Archival: \u003c/strong>Where are you Nancy? We’re looking for you! She’s in jail!\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Have you ever, you know, given yourself the permission to think about what would have happened if they had found you?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Well, here’s the thing that I thought. I wasn’t really thinking so much about my personal safety. I was thinking about my grandson who was with me. His mother, Alexandra, took the boys to see an historic event, the transfer of power.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>But something fundamental had broken.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>And this vile creature, the vilest creature to ever crawl the face of the earth. And they said, well, what about Hitler? I said, he wasn’t president of the United States. Insights are an insurrection, sits in his office, and then won’t let the police, the National Guard come and then lies about it the whole time. I called the governor of Virginia. They said they had their troops ready. These people are so idiotic, but let’s put that over all of them. The secretary of the army who had the jurisdiction to. So I have to talk to my boss. That’s the secretary of defense. Haven’t you done that yet? Well, this is hard. It’s complicated. It takes time. I said, they have been attacking the Capitol. Well, I have to go ask my boss and well, you have to have authority at the location. I said there, look, authority is there. You need to be able to send the national guard. But they may, they avoided everything about it because their boss. The Commander-in-Chief, who can say over any of that, was just holding them back. And even some of the Republicans were asking the President to call off those guys, and he still wouldn’t do it. This is, I want to tell you something, this is a demonic figure, this guy who is unfortunately in the White House.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>I know you’re very religious. Did you pray?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Of course we prayed, prayed for our country. We prayed for those who were under assault.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>A few hours after the attack, authorities confirmed the Capitol had been secured. Congress was going to continue certifying the election results\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>I said, you know what, we’re going to the floor. That’s where this assault occurred, that’s where we’re going back to show the world.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In the early hours of the morning on January 7th, 2021, the election was certified. In his final days in office, Nancy Pelosi would lead another impeachment against President Trump for inciting the insurrection. The FBI investigated the rioters. There were prosecutions. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>The Arkansas man who was photographed on January 6th with his feet up on Nancy Pelosi’s desk was sentenced yesterday. He got four and a half years in prison. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Biden became president. Working together in the midst of the COVID pandemic, he and Pelosi muscled some big bills through a divided Congress. The Inflation Reduction Act, the CHIPS and Science Act. But during her last years as speaker, Pelosi made headlines for another reason. In 2021, at a press conference, a reporter from Business Insider asked Pelosi a question.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Business Insider Reporter: \u003c/strong>Should members of Congress and their spouses be banned from trading individual stocks while serving in Congress? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, I don’t know to this second one, we have a responsibility to report in the stock, on the stock but I’m not familiar with that five month review but if people aren’t reporting they should be. Because this is a free market and people, we have a free-market economy, they should be able to participate in that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Pelosi was firm in her response. No ban on stock trading. At that moment, she didn’t see the backlash, but it had been coming for years. Back in 2011, Pelosi had just gotten the Affordable Care Act across the finish line. She lost the speakership, but was still leader of House Democrats. Then, the CBS News magazine 60 Minutes published a bombshell investigation.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Peter Schweizer: \u003c/strong>There are all sorts of forms of honest grafts that congressmen engage in that allow them to become very, very wealthy. So it’s not illegal, but I think it’s highly unethical. I think it’s highly offensive and wrong.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>That’s Peter Schweizer, the main source in the story. At the time, Schweizer was a fellow at the Hoover Institute, a conservative think tank. He’d been criticized as early as 1993 for fabricating sources and events in his book, Friendly Spies. He’d go on to publish Clinton Cash in 2015, a book that Media Matters concluded contained over 20 errors, fabrications, and distortions. On 60 Minutes, Schweiser claimed that members of Congress… Have been trading stocks based on inside information.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Peter Schweizer: \u003c/strong>We know that during the health care debate, people were trading health care stocks. We know during the financial crisis of 2008, they were getting out of the market before the rest of America really knew what was going on.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>The 60 Minutes story didn’t exclusively focus on Pelosi. They called out other lawmakers, too, including Republican Speaker John Boehner. But the report looked at an incident from 2008. Pelosi’s husband, Paul, had bought shares of stock from Visa, the credit card company. The report called into question whether the family’s investment influenced Pelosi’s decision-making around regulations to protect credit card consumers. To investigate this, the 60 Minutes correspondent, Steve Croft, went to a press conference and asked Pelosi about it.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Kroft: \u003c/strong>Madam Leader, I wanted to ask you why you and your husband back in March of 2008 accepted and participated in a very large IPO deal from Visa, at a time there was major legislation affecting the credit card companies making its way through the house, and did you consider that to be a conflict of interest.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>I don’t know what your point is of your question. Is there some point that you want to make with that? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>This response is classic Pelosi, full-throated denial.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>It’s not true, and that’s that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Kroft:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>I don’t understand what part’s not true.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Yes, sir, that I would act upon an investment\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>After the piece aired, Pelosi’s office put out a statement. It denied that her decisions about regulating credit card companies were swayed by her husband’s stock purchases. The statement said, quote, It is very troubling that 60 Minutes would base their reporting off of an already discredited conservative author who has made a career out of attacking Democrats. Peter Schweizer was a close ally of Steve Bannon, one of Trump’s top advisors. Schweizer would become editor of the far-right website Breitbart News. It’s true that Democrats had introduced a bill that would regulate credit card swipe fees in the House and that the bill died later that year. But Pelosi said it wasn’t because she was trying to help her husband’s portfolio. By the time the bill made it out of committee, Pelosi said, it was too late to bring the for a vote before the session ended. The Democratic congressman who introduced the bill, John Conyers from Michigan, said even if they’d somehow managed to pass it, President Bush would probably have vetoed it. So Pelosi said they waited until President Obama was in the White House to push card regulations through. In 2010, the Dodd-Frank Act included a cap on debit card swipe fees and other protections for credit card consumers. There are lots of moving parts here. It’s hard to say definitively what happened or why. But the accusations were very powerful. They touched a nerve. In 2012, public anger about the issue of stock trading in Congress was mounting. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Kroft: \u003c/strong>Both the House and the\u003cem> \u003c/em>Senate in a rare display of bipartisanship overwhelmingly passed the Stock Act, which prohibits its members from trading on non-public information gathered during the course of their duties.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Congress passed the Stock Act, stopped trading on congressional knowledge. It’s been said sunlight is the best disinfectant, meaning transparency. The Stock Act required members of Congress to disclose their trades within 30 to 45 days of making them. But the issue didn’t go away. Actually, with the information available to the public, people became more aware of how much money Congress members were making on stock trading. There are even apps you can use to track and literally copy the same stock trades the Pelosi’s and other members of Congress do. When Pelosi came to Congress, she and her husband were already wealthy. Her husband is a finance guy. The family had at least $610,000 worth in stocks. In today’s money, that’s something like 1.8 million. The stock research platform, Quiver Quantitative, estimates that her family currently holds around $135 million in publicly traded assets. In 2021, Pelosi ranked in the top 25 richest people in Congress. Here’s Hillary Brossith, she’s executive director at OpenSecrets, a non-profit that tracks money and politics. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Hilary Braseth: \u003c/strong>We often find that some of the highest drivers of traffic to our site are citizens who are curious about the net worth of any given member of Congress. And Nancy Pelosi, I think in many ways, is one of the main profiles that we often see folks looking up, perhaps because she has quite high of a net worth.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Now, owning stocks can benefit anyone, but the richer you are and the more stocks you own, the more you make when the market goes up. Having private briefings, like members of Congress do, can give them a leg up before the market reacts to news. Business Insider recently published an investigation that found that dozens of Congress members have violated federal conflict of interest laws. Pelosi wasn’t on that list, but many of her colleagues were accused of disclosing after the required disclosure window. And a few were accused of insider trading. It seems obvious that banning members of Congress from trading stocks wouldn’t just stop the practice from happening, but would also remove the appearance of a conflict, but Pelosi opposed it. When Pelosi first ran for her seat back in 1987, her opponents argued that Pelosi’s wealth would put her out of touch with working class people. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carol Ruth Silver: \u003c/strong>How can she relate to people like me, a single parent, working mother, or somebody else? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Fast forward to 2020. In the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, Pelosi went on the James Corden show.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>James Corden: \u003c/strong>Welcome back, we’re here with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and we’ve asked her to share something from her home for late, late show and tell. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In the segment she showed her freezer full of ice cream.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Speaker Pelosi, what have you found? I don’t know what I would have done if ice cream were not invented.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>People were losing their jobs, terrified about the economy. Trump’s reelection campaign seized on an opportunity to punch back at Pelosi. They posted a video on YouTube called Let Them Eat Ice Cream, Nancy Antoinette, a reference to the infamous Queen of France. It featured the James Corden interview with some creative edits. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival – Nancy Antoinette Video: \u003c/strong>Speaker Pelosi, what are you gonna share with us from your home? Chocolate candy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival – Nancy Antoinette Video: \u003c/strong>Thousands have been forced to wait for hours at food banks all across the country. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival – Nancy Antoinette Video:\u003c/strong>Oh my chocolate and then we have some other chocolate \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>It was a partisan attack, but like her opposition to the congressional stock trading ban, the moment highlighted one of Pelosi’s weaknesses. She can be a little tone deaf to how her own behavior strikes others and how it stokes anger. When we started making this podcast, I knew I wanted to ask Pelosi about congressional stock trading, but I have to say I wasn’t looking forward to bringing it up. I know how she can sometimes go into attack mode when she’s asked about a topic she doesn’t like. She completely rejects accusations that she used knowledge gained as a member of Congress to make favorable stock transactions. She defended her stock trades to me as something everyone does.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>My point of view is if family has investments, stock, I’m not talking about big deal. Most people don’t even realize that their 401k is in the stock market. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>But there are a lot of people who’ve come to Congress and left with a lot more money than they got there. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>If they’re doing something illegal, then they should be charged with that. They have investigated me personally, politically, economically, all the time. They have never come up with anything. They’ve spent a lot of money and a lot time. They can say I have cloven feet and horns in my head and I’m a devil and the rest of that, but they’ve never come with anything that I did anything wrong in Congress. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Josh Hawley was on Fox News saying that, you know, insider trading corruption should be prosecuted.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Not me. Nobody’s ever accused me… \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Well, he was referring to you. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In 2023, Republican Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri introduced the Pelosi act preventing elected leaders from owning securities and investments. I tried asking Pelosi why she didn’t try and pass a ban when she was leader. So you don’t feel that not getting that passed is a negative part of your legacy.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, I don’t at all, because the people who, the members didn’t, it’s up to the members to get something passed like that. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Yeah, although as leader, you have a lot of say in what the caucus wants to do. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, I didn’t. All you need is a few people to say, we’re not doing this. And some of them were in the leadership. They just thought it was insulting to the members to say you don’t have any values and you don’t have any judgment. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>But now she says she does support a ban on stock trading for members of Congress. So I kept pushing her. What changed? You oppose that for many years and I’m wondering.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, I didn’t pose it for many years. I posed it when they suggested it, and then Kalkus said they won it and I supported it. It didn’t come forward because there weren’t the votes to bring it forward.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>At the top of the episode, I mentioned a stock trading ban passed Congress in July. But Pelosi didn’t vote for it, because she says it exempted the president.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>It was a terrible bill. And we wanted it to be more comprehensive, including the President of the United States, because they would never get that signed by the President of the United States. But if you look at that bill, it is totally incomplete. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Now, Pelosi doesn’t like to back down, especially when she feels like these are partisan attacks. But she also knows that appearances matter, and they can undercut trust in elected officials. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>We want to do whatever it takes, and that means even this issue, to restore the confidence people have in the system. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Hilary Braseth of Open Secrets again.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Hilary Braseth: \u003c/strong>Earlier this year, there was a survey that roughly 75% of the country thinks that there is too much money in politics and does not like it. And so this really presents a quandary that those who get elected into public office tend to benefit from the system as it’s designed and don’t have much incentive to change the system or to create tighter rules around how much money they can raise, whether or not they can trade stocks based on. Knowledge they might be privy to.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Senate Democrats ended up blocking the stock trading ban. They promised future reform, but needless to say, any ban passed now wouldn’t take effect until Pelosi leaves office. It’s been over five years since the violent riot at the Capitol. A lot has changed since then. Back in 2018, to round up votes to regain the gavel, Pelosi agreed to a four-year limit on her second speakership. And in 2023, after Democrats lost the House, she stepped down from leadership. President Trump is back in power after defeating former Vice President Kamala Harris in 2024. Republicans also maintain control of the House. And after he came back into office, President Trump pardoned those who’d been successfully prosecuted for their role in the January 6th attacks. The formal office of the Speaker of the House is historic and spacious, with vaulted ceilings and ornate wooden furniture, outer sitting areas full of comfortable couches and arm chairs. From a window you can see out across the National Mall. But that’s no longer Pelosi’s domain. Her party’s in the minority now, and her current office? It’s nice enough, but decidedly un-grand. It’s relatively cramped, packed with memorabilia. Colorful gavels, gifts from her constituents, chocolate for people who come to visit her, and sitting on a table, a pair of pink boxing gloves with her initials, NP, bedazzled in rhinestones, a gift from her friend Barbara Boxer. They were a little joke, boxing gloves from a boxer, but I think they really fit. No matter the cost, she goes down swinging. 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Original theme song composed by Cedric Wilson. Additional music from APM. Maha Sanad is KQED’s podcast engagement producer. Ethan Toven-Lindsey is KQED’s editor-in-chief. Special thanks to our partners from the Oral History Center at the University of California, Berkeley. Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by the Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television, and radio artists, San Francisco, Northern California local.\u003c/p>\n",
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While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Last episode, we focused on the Affordable Care Act, which then Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi pushed through Congress. But when you ask people about Pelosi, like our producer Ariella Markowitz did on the streets in DC, something else tends to come up. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ariella Markowitz: \u003c/strong>What comes to mind when you think of Nancy Pelosi?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vox 1: \u003c/strong>Man, California, stocks, stock trades, that’s funny. Insider stock trading. He defends that, he’s gotten quite wealthy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vox 2:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>She has manipulated her position and used it to her benefit.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>It’s something her opponents bring up a lot. Here’s President Trump earlier this year during his State of the Union address. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>Let’s also ensure that members of Congress cannot corruptly profit from using insider information. They stood up for that, I can’t believe it. Did Nancy Pelosi stand up if she’s here? Doubt it. Pass the Stop Insider Trading Act without delay. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>A few months later, the House passed a stock trading ban for members of Congress, and Nancy Pelosi voted against it. Some Democrats had an issue with the bill because it included an unrelated voter ID provision, which many critics say is really a way of suppressing Democratic turnout in elections. And the stock trading bill? It wouldn’t have applied if it were the president. Profiteering by President Trump and his family, including prolific stock trading, are a trademark of his second term. But to many, the name Pelosi triggers allegations of corruption. In her second run as Speaker, Pelosi and President Trump became full-on enemies, locked in public brawls that would define both of their legacies. But Pelosi doesn’t really want to go there.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>I don’t spend a whole lot of time talking about Trump, so…\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>I know he’s not your favorite.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, it’s not my favorite compared to almost any creature crawling the earth. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Still, this creature has defined her final chapter in unexpected ways. From KQED, this is The Speaker. I’m Scott Shafer. Today, how Pelosi responds to what she and many see as a fundamental threat to democracy. President Trump. And with faith in the Democratic Party and public trust in U.S. Institutions at their lowest in decades, the shadow that hangs over her legacy. Accusations of insider stock trading in Congress. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Pelosi says she planned on retiring after the 2016 election. She would have been 76 years old, and she was assuming that a Democrat would win. You were really ready to say, that’s it, I’m done.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Well, I was ready to say it a number of times, but I only thought I would go 10 years. I never thought I’d run for Congress, much less for leadership. And then the members, you have to stay, you have stay, you to stay. And so I did.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>She thought her crowning achievement, the Affordable Care Act, her baby, would be protected under a President Hillary Clinton. On November 8, 2016, Pelosi was in Washington with her colleagues, waiting for the returns to come in.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>One of my colleagues was the chairman of the party in Philadelphia. And we were getting returns from him saying, they told us if we got over 500,000 in Philadelphia, we would carry Pennsylvania. So one night he’d say, it’s getting closer, but we’re okay, it was getting closer. Then finally he said, you know, the turnout from McCall, but you know just naming the names of some counties is just unprecedented. We’re not gonna be able to offset it. I was like getting kicked in the back by a mule.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>During his first campaign for president, Trump had leaned into people’s cynicism and mistrust of politicians.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>If we win on November 8th, we are going to drain the swamp in Washington, D.C. We’re draining the swamp.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>After he won, President Trump issued a flurry of executive orders and policies. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>President Trump’s most recent executive order effectively banned citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. For at least 90 days. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>Today President Donald Trump is continuing to defend his administration’s policy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>When you prosecute the parents for coming in illegally, which should happen, you have to take the children away. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>And, in 2017, when white supremacists rallied in Charlottesville, Virginia? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>There are people, bodies laying on the ground right now.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>NAZIS GO HOME! \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In response to the violence, Trump said this.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>Very fine people on both sides \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In the midst of all this, Pelosi and Democrats campaigned hard to defeat Republicans in the 2018 midterms. But economic unrest was starting to influence the Democratic Party’s politics. For years there had been discontent on the left about the 2008 bailout and economic disparity. A movement called Occupy Wall Street kicked off in 2011. The slogan was, we are the 99 percent. In 2016, Senator Bernie Sanders had been a grassroots presidential candidate, and he was popular. More than 40 percent of people who voted in the primaries wanted him to be the nominee.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bernie Sanders: \u003c/strong>The reason that we have done so well, the reason I believe we’re going to do so well in the Hampshire and in the other states that follow, the reason is the American people are saying no to a rigged economy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Sanders had run on a message about economic inequality.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bernie Sanders: \u003c/strong>They no longer want to see an economy in which the average American works longer hours for low wages while almost all new income and wealth is going to the top 1%.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Some people argue that this energy helped Democrats take back the House in 2018, two years into Trump’s presidency. They’d been out of power since the Tea Party had stormed into Congress almost a decade earlier. That election night, Pelosi took the stage again to the chants of \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Thank you all, thank you all very much, remember this feeling, know the power to win. Today is more than about Democrats and Republicans, it’s about restoring the Constitution’s checks and balances to the Trump administration.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>And with that election, a wave of newcomers with bold ideas, including four progressive women who became known as the Squad. Ayanna Pressley from Massachusetts, Rashida Tlaib from Michigan, Ilhan Omar from Minnesota, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, AOC, from New York. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: \u003c/strong>I think what we’ve seen is that working-class Americans want a clear champion and there is nothing radical about moral clarity in 2018.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>AOC is a democratic socialist, like Bernie Sanders. She defeated Joe Crowley, one of Pelosi’s top deputies in leadership. Many had actually seen Crowley as the person best positioned to become speaker after Pelosi left. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>He didn’t pay enough attention to his district. That, you know, that’s really what it is. It was an election in the summer. So I had very low turnout. I mean, he was predicating his success on how things go in a full election. But AOC ran a great campaign and it was stunning because he’s terrific and respected and he was chair of the caucus, I think, at the time. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Needless to say, there was some friction between the new members and the old guard. Before being sworn in, AOC joined a climate protest outside Pelosi’s office. People are holding yellow signs that say Green Jobs for All.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: \u003c/strong>I just want to let you all know how proud I am of each and every single one of you for putting yourselves and your bodies and everything on the line to make sure that we save our planet, our generation, and our home.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Pelosi told me she was the wrong target for their protest.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>They should not have been in my office as a start because we had done more on climate than anybody.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Once they won back the House, some new, younger members were among those questioning whether Pelosi was the right leader for the House Democrats. But after cutting some deals, Pelosi was easily elected speaker for a second time. The squad cast their votes for her, too. Her swearing in was joyous.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>I’d like to call my grandchildren up to be here when I take you, and any other children who want to join them. Come on, kids. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>She’d have her work cut out for her. In June of 2019, the House was considering an appropriations bill that would provide funds to process and detain migrants at the border, but also for an emergency food and shelter program, money to help deal with what people were calling a humanitarian crisis. This bill was being debated a year after the Trump administration rolled out and then backed down on a policy that criminally prosecuted all adults crossing the border without papers. The Zero Tolerance Policy meant children were separated from their parents. It was something AOC spoke about at an oversight committee hearing in July 2019. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: \u003c/strong>And what was worse about this, Mr. Chairman, was the fact that there were American flags hanging all over these facilities, that children being separated from their parents in front of an American flag.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Progressives didn’t want to give more money to the agencies that carried out Trump’s harsh border policies. Pelosi and other Democratic leaders negotiated with them, added additional health and safety standards for migrant children to the bill, but the squad still defected. They were the only Democrats to vote no on the House bill. You described the squad as just four votes. It was. That’s what it was. It was four votes This may sound harsh, but it’s how Pelosi sees things. They were a small obstacle that didn’t affect her vote count. But Pelosi would be challenged again by the progressive wing when she had to give up the House bill with stronger protections for a Senate version. She was disappointed that Senate Democrats hadn’t fought for a better bill, but she decided to compromise and push it through. That caused public outrage from House progressives. AOC took her issues with Pelosi public. She said in an interview with the Washington Post… That she felt the squad had been singled out by Pelosi, implied it was because they were four women of color. AOC’s chief of staff compared centrist Democrats to segregationists on Twitter. He asked why this so-called legislative mastermind, referring to Pelosi, couldn’t get more done on kitchen table issues. By some accounts, Pelosi was furious. Even today, you can hear the annoyance in her voice.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>If you want to legislate, don’t be on airwaves criticizing the people whose votes you need. You can be here as a legislator where you need the votes of people for an issue that you may want to advance, or you can be an internet where you’re here to criticize your colleagues and expect them to vote for your bill.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In one closed-door meeting with her Democratic caucus, she told them to bring their grievances to her, not tweet about them to the public. She said at the end of the day, her goal was to help the children. She told them, some of you are here to make a beautiful pate, but we’re making sausage most of the time. Our producer Ariella asked Representative Ilhan Omar, part of the squad, about this.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ariella Markowitz: \u003c/strong>She was giving speeches about sausages versus pates and all of this. What do you think about that got under her skin? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ilhan Omar: \u003c/strong>I think she herself saw herself as a progressive and in some ways might’ve felt insulted that the progressive movement didn’t think of her as being one of them. And she felt like because she was the speaker and she’s the leader for the whole caucus and the whole House, that the decisions that she had to make had to be for the good of the whole.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Now as I thought about these showdowns between the squad and the speaker, I remember how Pelosi herself had sort of ignored Congressional norms when she got to Washington. So I asked her how she felt about AOC. I wonder if you saw a little bit of yourself in her.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, I didn’t at all.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>I don’t know. Well, wait until you hear the question. Well, you just asked it, and I said no. I mean, whatBrase I’m thinking of is when you first got there in your very first speech, you talked about AIDS. You were kind of breaking the protocol a little bit. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>She’s operational, make no mistake, some of those squads are not. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Say what you mean by that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Operational is that she knows that she wants to accomplish something. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Operational. This is one of Pelosi’s favorite words. It’s what Congresswoman Sala Burton said about Pelosi before she endorsed her back in 1987. So when Pelosi called AOC operational, this was a mark of respect. She’s learned how to get things done. Here’s the thing, Pelosi comes from progressive San Francisco. She thinks of herself as a liberal, cares about things like ending poverty, providing health care, and believes the government should be a force for good. But she values something else, too, maybe even more than anything else, being effective. It means working within a system she ultimately believes in to get things done, being willing to compromise in the process. But in this era of President Trump… Was being operational enough? Even though she loathed President Trump, Pelosi tried to enter their first meeting with an open mind. Out of respect for the institution.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>This is historic. It’s a meeting between the new president and the leadership of the Congress, bipartisan leadership in the Congress. I’ve been in that meeting many times with President Bush, Obama. It’s historic. And so I’m sitting there thinking, why don’t we begin? Will he quote the Bible? Will he talk about America and founders and what America means to us? And we talk about his family and what this… Means to him, how will he begin this meeting? He leans over on the desk like this, the table, and says, you know, I won the popular vote. It was totally offensive. So I thought, well, that’s not true. That’s not truth. And he said, well I’m not even counting California.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>The relationship went downhill from there. You may remember some of those moments, like in 2018 when Pelosi walked out of a meeting with Trump in a red coat and Armani sunglasses looking completely relaxed. She put her sunglasses on right in time for the photos. The image went viral.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>The new power suit for women, red coats, sunglasses, nerves of steel. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>I had no idea, I just put on my coat and walked out to the press, which is outside. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Or you may remember her dressed in all white, standing behind the president. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>But Nancy Pelosi became the queen of condescending applause. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Clapping sarcastically at Trump during his 2019 State of the Union address. She clearly wasn’t intimidated by him. After all, this is the same woman who called Bush incompetent on national TV and refused to apologize for it. To me, it seems like Pelosi was adapting to the moment. She was smart enough to sense that in this era of politics, it’s those viral images that stick with people, not the closed-door legislative rooms Pelosi was used cutting deals in. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>The fact is, people want to see moments. You know, I hear speeches, they want to see moments, what people are happy about is that I did that, that I pointed to him, that I walked out of the office, because it spoke to their, how they felt or believed at the time. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>She was getting under his skin. To those in the Trump 1.0 administration, Pelosi was an obstructionist. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mick Mulvaney: \u003c/strong>Nancy was just so difficult to work with. Again, she may take that as a badge of honor, and I get it, there’s a lot of Republicans who take their unwillingness to compromise with Democrats as a badge of honor. So she’s not unique in that, but she had zero interest in doing anything with Donald Trump.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>That’s Mick Mulvaney, who was President Trump’s chief of staff when Pelosi regained the speakership. We talked to him last episode, a Tea Party guy who campaigned for his House seat against the Affordable Care Act and won. He said President Trump respected Pelosi at first.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mick Mulvaney: \u003c/strong>He respects strength and that’s certainly what she has. When she was doing what she was doing, she had a margin roughly the same size that Mike Johnson has today in the House. And she was able to corral her party and he respected that. But at the end of the day, she had zero interest in being with the guy and I think the country is worse for it. If they had wanted to sit down and cut some deals, they could have had a tremendous bipartisan deal on infrastructure. I even think they could’ve had a tremendous bipartisan on immigration. But it was fight, fight, fighting the whole time. And it was bitter and poisonous.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>While Republicans felt Pelosi was just an obstacle to getting anything done, many Democrats were calling for Trump’s impeachment. But Pelosi was wary.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>People wanted to impeach him just because he was obnoxious and dyed his hair orange. Everybody had a thing of he’s not really presidential. That’s not a cause for impeachment. You know what I’m saying?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>But then, in the summer of 2019, President Trump gave Democrats their opportunity.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>I’ve said the only person who’s responsible for the impeachment of Donald Trump, not once but twice, is Donald Trump. He gave us no choice.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>A whistleblower said that in a phone call, Trump tried to get Ukrainian President Zelensky to investigate Trump’s rival in the upcoming election, Joe Biden, and his son Hunter. The White House released a transcript of the call, and President Trump tried to deflect to the debunked claim that Joe Biden was linked to a corruption scandal. And let me tell you something, Biden’s son is corrupt, and Biden is corrupt. To Pelosi, this attempt to interfere with the 2020 election was the unconstitutional violation Democrats could not ignore. This would be the grounds for the impeachment case.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>What he did was wrong. Now, different other things you could have included in that we said, you have to keep it simple. What is the thing that crosses the line, not just on its own might be grounds for impeachment, but not on the caliber of the Zelensky letter. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>But Pelosi didn’t revel in the impeachment, she actually silenced the applause after the impeachment vote with a stern glance and a hand gesture.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Article 1 is adopted. The question is on adoption of Article 2.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>You can count votes. You were probably, I’m guessing, pretty confident the Senate would not convict, right? They needed 67 votes. Why did you think it was important to go ahead and really start a process that you knew ultimately you would not?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>We did succeed. We impeached him twice. But you think that we should be guided by what the Senate might do? You think that, we would say, well, the president has committed impregnable offenses of highest magnitude, and we shouldn’t do that because we don’t know what some senators are going to do? No. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>I am thrilled to report to you tonight that our economy is the best it has ever been. Our military is completely rebuilt, with its power being unmatched anywhere in the world, and it’s not even close. It was February\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>The day before the Senate voted to acquit Trump of both impeachment charges. President Trump was giving his State of the Union speech, and Pelosi went a step further than she’d ever gone before. She was sitting behind Trump, in her house. He’d chosen that night to honor right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh, who held notoriously homophobic views. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donald Trump: \u003c/strong>And Rush, in recognition of all that you have done for our nation, the millions of people a day that you speak to and that you inspire, I am proud to announce tonight that you will be receiving our country’s highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Pelosi sat there, lips pursed, looking down at the printed speech, looking away from the balcony where Limbaugh was, and toward her caucus in the audience. As Trump finished his speech, saying the best was yet to come, she stood up, not clapping, but ripping up the president’s printed remarks two or three pages at a time, biting her lip. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>I didn’t intend to do that. It just was a manifesto of lies. And I wasn’t just gonna let that stand. I just wasn’t gonna let it stand. As courteous as we are to a guest in our house, when he abuses that courtesy, when he lies there the whole time, gives a medal of freedom to an anti-gay, blah, blah, and our house. Do that at the White House. We don’t agree with your choice, but that’s your choice. You’re the president, but don’t come here and sully the House of Representatives chamber. With your obnoxious behavior. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>Pelosi, at her heart, believes in institutions. She respects the separation of powers, the three branches of government, and the staying power of those institutions. But to me, it seemed like at that moment something changed for her, not even standing with polite, respectful applause for the president as she did behind President George W. Bush for both of his State of the Union addresses when she was speaker, instead A stunning act of defiance on primetime television. Nine months later, Joe Biden won the presidential election. Trump was out. On January 6, 2021, Pelosi, along with Vice President Mike Pence, were overseeing the certification of the election. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>We didn’t anticipate violence. We didn’t expect the President of the United States to incite an insurrection.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jan 6 Archival: \u003c/strong>We’re starting to get surrounded. They’re taking the north-west scaffolding. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Protesters attack the west side of the Capitol, where presidential inauguration ceremonies are held. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Security came to me and they said we’re taking you out I said I can handle this guy you know we’re ready \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jan 6 Archival: \u003c/strong>We are walking over now to the tunnel\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>We could see on TV, because when you’re in the chamber, you can’t see. You see on tv what was happening, that they were coming to the Capitol. It’s really hard to explain. This is the citadel of democracy to the world. And these people are coming in, breaking windows, and they go in, and we’re seeing them go into the Capitol with Dixie flags, you know, Confederate flags, under the dome that Lincoln built when he was president. He built it during the Civil War. People said to him, use the steel for the war and the personnel for the War. He said. No, we have to show the world that we are resilient. So they continue with the dome. Under Lincoln’s dome, Confederate flags. One guy with a shirt, six million Jews were not enough. Auschwitz. That’s. What this was, assaulting police, all the rest of that, defecating on the floor. I say this because this brute who was president now wants to give them money for killing or endangering the lives of police officers. They were gonna get a bullet in my effing brain. They use the F word a lot about me throughout the whole thing. They were going to hang the vice president. Gallows for him.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>No doubt, many in the mob hated Pelosi. They came looking for her. They broke into her speaker’s office. A man put his feet up on her desk. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jan 6 Archival: \u003c/strong>Where are you Nancy? We’re looking for you! She’s in jail!\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Have you ever, you know, given yourself the permission to think about what would have happened if they had found you?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Well, here’s the thing that I thought. I wasn’t really thinking so much about my personal safety. I was thinking about my grandson who was with me. His mother, Alexandra, took the boys to see an historic event, the transfer of power.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>But something fundamental had broken.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>And this vile creature, the vilest creature to ever crawl the face of the earth. And they said, well, what about Hitler? I said, he wasn’t president of the United States. Insights are an insurrection, sits in his office, and then won’t let the police, the National Guard come and then lies about it the whole time. I called the governor of Virginia. They said they had their troops ready. These people are so idiotic, but let’s put that over all of them. The secretary of the army who had the jurisdiction to. So I have to talk to my boss. That’s the secretary of defense. Haven’t you done that yet? Well, this is hard. It’s complicated. It takes time. I said, they have been attacking the Capitol. Well, I have to go ask my boss and well, you have to have authority at the location. I said there, look, authority is there. You need to be able to send the national guard. But they may, they avoided everything about it because their boss. The Commander-in-Chief, who can say over any of that, was just holding them back. And even some of the Republicans were asking the President to call off those guys, and he still wouldn’t do it. This is, I want to tell you something, this is a demonic figure, this guy who is unfortunately in the White House.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>I know you’re very religious. Did you pray?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Of course we prayed, prayed for our country. We prayed for those who were under assault.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>A few hours after the attack, authorities confirmed the Capitol had been secured. Congress was going to continue certifying the election results\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>I said, you know what, we’re going to the floor. That’s where this assault occurred, that’s where we’re going back to show the world.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In the early hours of the morning on January 7th, 2021, the election was certified. In his final days in office, Nancy Pelosi would lead another impeachment against President Trump for inciting the insurrection. The FBI investigated the rioters. There were prosecutions. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival News: \u003c/strong>The Arkansas man who was photographed on January 6th with his feet up on Nancy Pelosi’s desk was sentenced yesterday. He got four and a half years in prison. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Biden became president. Working together in the midst of the COVID pandemic, he and Pelosi muscled some big bills through a divided Congress. The Inflation Reduction Act, the CHIPS and Science Act. But during her last years as speaker, Pelosi made headlines for another reason. In 2021, at a press conference, a reporter from Business Insider asked Pelosi a question.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Business Insider Reporter: \u003c/strong>Should members of Congress and their spouses be banned from trading individual stocks while serving in Congress? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, I don’t know to this second one, we have a responsibility to report in the stock, on the stock but I’m not familiar with that five month review but if people aren’t reporting they should be. Because this is a free market and people, we have a free-market economy, they should be able to participate in that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Pelosi was firm in her response. No ban on stock trading. At that moment, she didn’t see the backlash, but it had been coming for years. Back in 2011, Pelosi had just gotten the Affordable Care Act across the finish line. She lost the speakership, but was still leader of House Democrats. Then, the CBS News magazine 60 Minutes published a bombshell investigation.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Peter Schweizer: \u003c/strong>There are all sorts of forms of honest grafts that congressmen engage in that allow them to become very, very wealthy. So it’s not illegal, but I think it’s highly unethical. I think it’s highly offensive and wrong.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>That’s Peter Schweizer, the main source in the story. At the time, Schweizer was a fellow at the Hoover Institute, a conservative think tank. He’d been criticized as early as 1993 for fabricating sources and events in his book, Friendly Spies. He’d go on to publish Clinton Cash in 2015, a book that Media Matters concluded contained over 20 errors, fabrications, and distortions. On 60 Minutes, Schweiser claimed that members of Congress… Have been trading stocks based on inside information.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Peter Schweizer: \u003c/strong>We know that during the health care debate, people were trading health care stocks. We know during the financial crisis of 2008, they were getting out of the market before the rest of America really knew what was going on.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>The 60 Minutes story didn’t exclusively focus on Pelosi. They called out other lawmakers, too, including Republican Speaker John Boehner. But the report looked at an incident from 2008. Pelosi’s husband, Paul, had bought shares of stock from Visa, the credit card company. The report called into question whether the family’s investment influenced Pelosi’s decision-making around regulations to protect credit card consumers. To investigate this, the 60 Minutes correspondent, Steve Croft, went to a press conference and asked Pelosi about it.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Kroft: \u003c/strong>Madam Leader, I wanted to ask you why you and your husband back in March of 2008 accepted and participated in a very large IPO deal from Visa, at a time there was major legislation affecting the credit card companies making its way through the house, and did you consider that to be a conflict of interest.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>I don’t know what your point is of your question. Is there some point that you want to make with that? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>This response is classic Pelosi, full-throated denial.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>It’s not true, and that’s that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Kroft:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>I don’t understand what part’s not true.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Yes, sir, that I would act upon an investment\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>After the piece aired, Pelosi’s office put out a statement. It denied that her decisions about regulating credit card companies were swayed by her husband’s stock purchases. The statement said, quote, It is very troubling that 60 Minutes would base their reporting off of an already discredited conservative author who has made a career out of attacking Democrats. Peter Schweizer was a close ally of Steve Bannon, one of Trump’s top advisors. Schweizer would become editor of the far-right website Breitbart News. It’s true that Democrats had introduced a bill that would regulate credit card swipe fees in the House and that the bill died later that year. But Pelosi said it wasn’t because she was trying to help her husband’s portfolio. By the time the bill made it out of committee, Pelosi said, it was too late to bring the for a vote before the session ended. The Democratic congressman who introduced the bill, John Conyers from Michigan, said even if they’d somehow managed to pass it, President Bush would probably have vetoed it. So Pelosi said they waited until President Obama was in the White House to push card regulations through. In 2010, the Dodd-Frank Act included a cap on debit card swipe fees and other protections for credit card consumers. There are lots of moving parts here. It’s hard to say definitively what happened or why. But the accusations were very powerful. They touched a nerve. In 2012, public anger about the issue of stock trading in Congress was mounting. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Kroft: \u003c/strong>Both the House and the\u003cem> \u003c/em>Senate in a rare display of bipartisanship overwhelmingly passed the Stock Act, which prohibits its members from trading on non-public information gathered during the course of their duties.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Congress passed the Stock Act, stopped trading on congressional knowledge. It’s been said sunlight is the best disinfectant, meaning transparency. The Stock Act required members of Congress to disclose their trades within 30 to 45 days of making them. But the issue didn’t go away. Actually, with the information available to the public, people became more aware of how much money Congress members were making on stock trading. There are even apps you can use to track and literally copy the same stock trades the Pelosi’s and other members of Congress do. When Pelosi came to Congress, she and her husband were already wealthy. Her husband is a finance guy. The family had at least $610,000 worth in stocks. In today’s money, that’s something like 1.8 million. The stock research platform, Quiver Quantitative, estimates that her family currently holds around $135 million in publicly traded assets. In 2021, Pelosi ranked in the top 25 richest people in Congress. Here’s Hillary Brossith, she’s executive director at OpenSecrets, a non-profit that tracks money and politics. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Hilary Braseth: \u003c/strong>We often find that some of the highest drivers of traffic to our site are citizens who are curious about the net worth of any given member of Congress. And Nancy Pelosi, I think in many ways, is one of the main profiles that we often see folks looking up, perhaps because she has quite high of a net worth.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Now, owning stocks can benefit anyone, but the richer you are and the more stocks you own, the more you make when the market goes up. Having private briefings, like members of Congress do, can give them a leg up before the market reacts to news. Business Insider recently published an investigation that found that dozens of Congress members have violated federal conflict of interest laws. Pelosi wasn’t on that list, but many of her colleagues were accused of disclosing after the required disclosure window. And a few were accused of insider trading. It seems obvious that banning members of Congress from trading stocks wouldn’t just stop the practice from happening, but would also remove the appearance of a conflict, but Pelosi opposed it. When Pelosi first ran for her seat back in 1987, her opponents argued that Pelosi’s wealth would put her out of touch with working class people. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carol Ruth Silver: \u003c/strong>How can she relate to people like me, a single parent, working mother, or somebody else? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Fast forward to 2020. In the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, Pelosi went on the James Corden show.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>James Corden: \u003c/strong>Welcome back, we’re here with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and we’ve asked her to share something from her home for late, late show and tell. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In the segment she showed her freezer full of ice cream.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Speaker Pelosi, what have you found? I don’t know what I would have done if ice cream were not invented.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>People were losing their jobs, terrified about the economy. Trump’s reelection campaign seized on an opportunity to punch back at Pelosi. They posted a video on YouTube called Let Them Eat Ice Cream, Nancy Antoinette, a reference to the infamous Queen of France. It featured the James Corden interview with some creative edits. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival – Nancy Antoinette Video: \u003c/strong>Speaker Pelosi, what are you gonna share with us from your home? Chocolate candy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival – Nancy Antoinette Video: \u003c/strong>Thousands have been forced to wait for hours at food banks all across the country. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Archival – Nancy Antoinette Video:\u003c/strong>Oh my chocolate and then we have some other chocolate \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>It was a partisan attack, but like her opposition to the congressional stock trading ban, the moment highlighted one of Pelosi’s weaknesses. She can be a little tone deaf to how her own behavior strikes others and how it stokes anger. When we started making this podcast, I knew I wanted to ask Pelosi about congressional stock trading, but I have to say I wasn’t looking forward to bringing it up. I know how she can sometimes go into attack mode when she’s asked about a topic she doesn’t like. She completely rejects accusations that she used knowledge gained as a member of Congress to make favorable stock transactions. She defended her stock trades to me as something everyone does.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>My point of view is if family has investments, stock, I’m not talking about big deal. Most people don’t even realize that their 401k is in the stock market. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>But there are a lot of people who’ve come to Congress and left with a lot more money than they got there. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>If they’re doing something illegal, then they should be charged with that. They have investigated me personally, politically, economically, all the time. They have never come up with anything. They’ve spent a lot of money and a lot time. They can say I have cloven feet and horns in my head and I’m a devil and the rest of that, but they’ve never come with anything that I did anything wrong in Congress. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Josh Hawley was on Fox News saying that, you know, insider trading corruption should be prosecuted.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>Not me. Nobody’s ever accused me… \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Well, he was referring to you. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>In 2023, Republican Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri introduced the Pelosi act preventing elected leaders from owning securities and investments. I tried asking Pelosi why she didn’t try and pass a ban when she was leader. So you don’t feel that not getting that passed is a negative part of your legacy.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, I don’t at all, because the people who, the members didn’t, it’s up to the members to get something passed like that. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Yeah, although as leader, you have a lot of say in what the caucus wants to do. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, I didn’t. All you need is a few people to say, we’re not doing this. And some of them were in the leadership. They just thought it was insulting to the members to say you don’t have any values and you don’t have any judgment. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>But now she says she does support a ban on stock trading for members of Congress. So I kept pushing her. What changed? You oppose that for many years and I’m wondering.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>No, I didn’t pose it for many years. I posed it when they suggested it, and then Kalkus said they won it and I supported it. It didn’t come forward because there weren’t the votes to bring it forward.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>At the top of the episode, I mentioned a stock trading ban passed Congress in July. But Pelosi didn’t vote for it, because she says it exempted the president.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> \u003c/em>It was a terrible bill. And we wanted it to be more comprehensive, including the President of the United States, because they would never get that signed by the President of the United States. But if you look at that bill, it is totally incomplete. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Now, Pelosi doesn’t like to back down, especially when she feels like these are partisan attacks. But she also knows that appearances matter, and they can undercut trust in elected officials. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>We want to do whatever it takes, and that means even this issue, to restore the confidence people have in the system. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Hilary Braseth of Open Secrets again.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Hilary Braseth: \u003c/strong>Earlier this year, there was a survey that roughly 75% of the country thinks that there is too much money in politics and does not like it. And so this really presents a quandary that those who get elected into public office tend to benefit from the system as it’s designed and don’t have much incentive to change the system or to create tighter rules around how much money they can raise, whether or not they can trade stocks based on. Knowledge they might be privy to.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>Senate Democrats ended up blocking the stock trading ban. They promised future reform, but needless to say, any ban passed now wouldn’t take effect until Pelosi leaves office. It’s been over five years since the violent riot at the Capitol. A lot has changed since then. Back in 2018, to round up votes to regain the gavel, Pelosi agreed to a four-year limit on her second speakership. And in 2023, after Democrats lost the House, she stepped down from leadership. President Trump is back in power after defeating former Vice President Kamala Harris in 2024. Republicans also maintain control of the House. And after he came back into office, President Trump pardoned those who’d been successfully prosecuted for their role in the January 6th attacks. The formal office of the Speaker of the House is historic and spacious, with vaulted ceilings and ornate wooden furniture, outer sitting areas full of comfortable couches and arm chairs. From a window you can see out across the National Mall. But that’s no longer Pelosi’s domain. Her party’s in the minority now, and her current office? It’s nice enough, but decidedly un-grand. It’s relatively cramped, packed with memorabilia. Colorful gavels, gifts from her constituents, chocolate for people who come to visit her, and sitting on a table, a pair of pink boxing gloves with her initials, NP, bedazzled in rhinestones, a gift from her friend Barbara Boxer. They were a little joke, boxing gloves from a boxer, but I think they really fit. No matter the cost, she goes down swinging. She’s not the speaker anymore, but she’s still Pelosi, calling shots behind the scenes, doing her best to shape the future of a Democratic party that’s up for grabs.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>We’re seeing a lot of turmoil in the Democratic Party in terms of candidates. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nancy Pelosi: \u003c/strong>I disagree with your terminology. A lot of turmoil in the Democratic Party. There isn’t a lot of turmoil.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Scott Shafer: \u003c/strong>That’s coming up next week on The Speaker. The Speaker is a production of KQED in San Francisco and distributed by NPR. It’s hosted and reported by me, Scott Shafer. It’s reported and produced by Ariella Markowitz. It’s edited by Padmini Raghunath. Final mix and sound designed by Christopher Beale. Fact checking by Mark Betancourt. Additional editing from Anna Sussman and Jen Chien, KQED’s director of podcasts. Original theme song composed by Cedric Wilson. Additional music from APM. Maha Sanad is KQED’s podcast engagement producer. Ethan Toven-Lindsey is KQED’s editor-in-chief. Special thanks to our partners from the Oral History Center at the University of California, Berkeley. Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by the Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television, and radio artists, San Francisco, Northern California local.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\n\u003cp>A steaming tray of hot taquitos arrived at the center of the table, as the family passed sides of rice and vegetables around while three small dogs yapped in the background. It was a typical night for Rosa, a single mother of three who lives in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/san-francisco\">San Francisco\u003c/a>’s Sunnydale neighborhood. But even the ordinary feels surreal right now. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>This spring, Rosa, who is originally from Honduras, was released from an immigration detention facility in Tacoma, Washington, and allowed to return to her children and modest apartment just north of the Cow Palace. She was locked up for nearly 11 months, leaving behind three daughters who were forced to look after themselves for almost a year. Rosa’s release ranks her among the lucky few not deported, but the experience and its aftermath have left the close-knit family reeling.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED is not using Rosa’s last name because she fears it could hurt her pending visa application and because she is a domestic violence victim. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101915523/the-babies-left-behind-caitlin-dickerson-on-the-new-family-separation-crisis\">Family separation\u003c/a> has become a hallmark of the Trump administration’s approach to immigration enforcement, including in Northern California, where arrests by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12097313/northern-california-ice-arrests-surged-this-summer\">have surged\u003c/a>. Experts in youth well-being say it’s had devastating impacts on children in the Bay Area and beyond.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Approximately 400,000 immigrants were booked into ICE detention between Jan. 20, 2025, and April 9, 2026, and researchers estimate that approximately 205,000 children experienced the detention of a parent during that period, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/yUSgCmZEBgF8mo28iGf88iRUmCq?domain=brookings.edu\">Brookings Institution analysis\u003c/a>. The study found that most children whose parents have been detained are U.S. citizens. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-03-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101505\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-03-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-03-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-03-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Rosa eats dinner with her family at their home in San Francisco on Aug. 27, 2026. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Many of the adults caught in recent immigration enforcement are parents,” said Kristina Lovato, an assistant professor in the School of Social Welfare at UC Berkeley who also directs the Center on Immigration and Child Welfare. “Forced family separation is traumatic. Not only is it sudden and involuntary, but it’s often accompanied by uncertainty, whether a parent will return.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Immigration enforcement under Trump has increasingly involved arrests away from the border. On June 2, 2025, ICE agents in unmarked vehicles arrested Rosa outside her apartment building.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“I just started screaming, ‘let me call my daughter,’” Rosa said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“She didn’t know what happened for three hours. 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Her 28-year-old nephew, who had been helping her daughters in their mom’s absence, died suddenly in April. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-04-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101506\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-04-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-04-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-04-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Rosa at her home in San Francisco on Aug. 27, 2026. 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As in Rosa’s case, it can mean that a mother can’t pick up her children from school, children are put at risk of losing their homes, and their loved ones worry themselves sick,” said Jennifer Friedman, managing attorney of the San Francisco Public Defender’s Immigration Defense Unit. “Whether a person was born in the U.S. or has had contact with the criminal legal system, it does not justify violating their civil and human rights.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees ICE, said in an emailed statement that it “does not separate families.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Parents are asked if they want to be removed with their children or ICE will place the children with a safe person the parent designates. This is consistent with past administrations’ immigration enforcement,” a representative for DHS said. “Under President Trump and Secretary Mullin, if you break the law, you will face the consequences. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>A steaming tray of hot taquitos arrived at the center of the table, as the family passed sides of rice and vegetables around while three small dogs yapped in the background. It was a typical night for Rosa, a single mother of three who lives in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/san-francisco\">San Francisco\u003c/a>’s Sunnydale neighborhood. But even the ordinary feels surreal right now. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>This spring, Rosa, who is originally from Honduras, was released from an immigration detention facility in Tacoma, Washington, and allowed to return to her children and modest apartment just north of the Cow Palace. She was locked up for nearly 11 months, leaving behind three daughters who were forced to look after themselves for almost a year. Rosa’s release ranks her among the lucky few not deported, but the experience and its aftermath have left the close-knit family reeling.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED is not using Rosa’s last name because she fears it could hurt her pending visa application and because she is a domestic violence victim. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101915523/the-babies-left-behind-caitlin-dickerson-on-the-new-family-separation-crisis\">Family separation\u003c/a> has become a hallmark of the Trump administration’s approach to immigration enforcement, including in Northern California, where arrests by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12097313/northern-california-ice-arrests-surged-this-summer\">have surged\u003c/a>. Experts in youth well-being say it’s had devastating impacts on children in the Bay Area and beyond.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Approximately 400,000 immigrants were booked into ICE detention between Jan. 20, 2025, and April 9, 2026, and researchers estimate that approximately 205,000 children experienced the detention of a parent during that period, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/yUSgCmZEBgF8mo28iGf88iRUmCq?domain=brookings.edu\">Brookings Institution analysis\u003c/a>. The study found that most children whose parents have been detained are U.S. citizens. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-03-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101505\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-03-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-03-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-03-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Rosa eats dinner with her family at their home in San Francisco on Aug. 27, 2026. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Many of the adults caught in recent immigration enforcement are parents,” said Kristina Lovato, an assistant professor in the School of Social Welfare at UC Berkeley who also directs the Center on Immigration and Child Welfare. “Forced family separation is traumatic. Not only is it sudden and involuntary, but it’s often accompanied by uncertainty, whether a parent will return.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Immigration enforcement under Trump has increasingly involved arrests away from the border. On June 2, 2025, ICE agents in unmarked vehicles arrested Rosa outside her apartment building.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“I just started screaming, ‘let me call my daughter,’” Rosa said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“She didn’t know what happened for three hours. She saw me go outside, but never come back,” Rosa said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Jenn, a bubbly college student pursuing a career in fashion, had just arrived home from a trip to Cabo San Lucas with friends for her birthday the day before her life turned upside down. She was sleeping in after the trip when suddenly her doorbell started ringing over and over. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We don’t really get a lot of visitors here, but the doorbell just kept ringing, and I finally got up,” said her daughter, Jenn, who is now 21. It was one of the community workers who provides resident support services at their affordable housing complex. “One of my family members called him to come tell me that my mom was detained.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>That day, Jenn immediately stepped into the role of parent, looking after her two younger siblings, now ages 11 and 15, in their mother’s absence. While taking community college classes, she navigated legal and immigration systems for her mother and paid the family’s bills working long hours in customer service, foregoing sleep and her own social life. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“It was summer, my friends wanted to vacation and do so much, but I had to take so much time off to just be home with my sisters,” she said. “When the holidays came around, that’s when it really made me feel like this is not right, and especially for their birthdays and everything.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>She had help from a cousin who was like a brother, and whom Rosa had legal guardianship of when he was a child. But every day was still marked by uncertainty and unanswerable questions from her siblings about what would happen to their mother or themselves. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>On the days she was most exhausted, Jenn said it felt easier to go hungry than try to put a meal together, whereas her mother had always made sure they had good food on the table. “Nobody wanted to cook. Nobody wanted to spend money going out to eat, either,” Jenn said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>While her mom was detained, Jenn’s younger sibling, then 14, experienced a mental-health crisis and was diagnosed with Autism spectrum disorder. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The clinical psychologist who saw the teen wrote a letter in support of Rosa’s release, saying the family separation was causing the child’s condition to worsen. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-01-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101503\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-01-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-01-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-01-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Rosa prepares dinner for her family at her home in San Francisco on Aug. 27, 2026. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Continuity of caregiving with her mother is not a preference but a clinical necessity, as disruptions in caregiving or reliance on individuals without autism-specific understanding are likely to exacerbate anxiety, dysregulation and functional decline,” the doctor wrote in September 2025, nearly seven months before Rosa was finally released. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>ICE arrests more than quadrupled in the first year of the second Trump administration, according to UC Berkeley’s \u003ca href=\"https://deportationdata.org/\">Deportation Data Project\u003c/a>. During that time, experts tracking immigration enforcement actions say more people without any criminal background were detained, and releases from ICE facilities became increasingly rare.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“The release rate, which was never that high, has gone way down,” said David Hausman, assistant professor at UC Berkeley School of Law. Releases within 60 days of arrest went from around 35% under the Biden administration to about 7% in 2025, according to the Deportation Data Project, which Hausman co-directs. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Immigration officials arrested Rosa under the pretense that she was a “fugitive” because she had returned to the country following a past removal in 2010.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>As a 15-year-old, Rosa escaped physical and sexual violence in Honduras. She came to the U.S. seeking safety, but was ultimately revictimized by an older man who groomed her and fathered two of her children. During their relationship, he forced her to assist him in illegal activity like shoplifting and drug sales. She was later convicted of both crimes, which led to her first deportation 16 years ago.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-05-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101507\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-05-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-05-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-05-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Rosa’s daughter holds a photo on her phone of her mother from when she was in detention at their San Francisco home on Aug. 27, 2026. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Her ex brought her back to the U.S. after only about two weeks. She was later deported a second time in October of the same year, and he brought her back within a month.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Rosa escaped the relationship in 2014, and parented her three children in San Francisco for the next decade solo. She assisted local police in investigating crimes tied to her former criminal charges, and her cooperation, along with her recognized status as a trafficking victim, allowed her to vacate the convictions from her record. She has since been seeking a T visa, for victims of human trafficking, and U visa, for victims of other abuse crimes. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But the work to clear her record did not deter the immigration agents who arrested her last year.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“There was lots of back and forth, and the government argued she was a danger because of these arrests 15 years ago related to the trafficking,” said Hayley Upshaw, an attorney with San Francisco’s public defender’s office who worked on Rosa’s case.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>While she was detained in Washington, tragedy struck Rosa’s family again. Her 28-year-old nephew, who had been helping her daughters in their mom’s absence, died suddenly in April. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-04-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101506\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-04-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-04-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/260827-SFICEDetaineeReleased-04-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Rosa at her home in San Francisco on Aug. 27, 2026. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Immediately afterward, the public defender’s office worked with Northwest Immigrant Rights Project, a Seattle-based organization that provides direct legal aid, to file a temporary restraining order and a habeas petition that legally challenged Rosa’s detention. Nearly a month after her nephew’s death, Rosa was released. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“I’m here now. But he is not here,” Rosa said, fighting back tears. “They let me come home because he passed away, you know. But they didn’t let me come home because I deserved to come home.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Attorneys and advocates working with Rosa say that her release was a rare reprieve from the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement and detention policies, but the trauma her family has endured persists across all cases. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Tearing families apart deeply harms our communities. As in Rosa’s case, it can mean that a mother can’t pick up her children from school, children are put at risk of losing their homes, and their loved ones worry themselves sick,” said Jennifer Friedman, managing attorney of the San Francisco Public Defender’s Immigration Defense Unit. “Whether a person was born in the U.S. or has had contact with the criminal legal system, it does not justify violating their civil and human rights.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees ICE, said in an emailed statement that it “does not separate families.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Parents are asked if they want to be removed with their children or ICE will place the children with a safe person the parent designates. This is consistent with past administrations’ immigration enforcement,” a representative for DHS said. “Under President Trump and Secretary Mullin, if you break the law, you will face the consequences. Criminal illegal aliens are not welcome in the U.S.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Much is unknown about the long-term outcomes for children whose parents have been detained, said Lovato, from the Center on Immigration and Child Welfare. ICE is not involved in follow-up care for detainees’ children, according to the Brookings report, and parents will often avoid engaging with child protective services because they fear more targeting by law enforcement. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Rosa and her children are relieved she is back home, but they are all still adjusting.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“It’s been really hard,” Jenn said. “To this day, sometimes my sisters are like, ‘Oh, can I go do this, can I go do that?’ I’m like, ‘I’m not your mom anymore, like, you can go ask mom.’” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Rosa can’t be re-detained unless new charges, or evidence in her past cases, are brought forward. But she is still awaiting the outcome of her T or U visa applications, as well as an appeal for asylum. If she is granted any of those, she will have lawful status. But if they are denied, she could lose asylum and be removed from the country. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Rosa is slowly getting back to a more normal life. She’s taking English classes, shuttling the kids to school and work, and enjoying her hobbies, like dancing and cooking. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But the threat of deportation, no longer abstract for the family, still looms over Rosa and her children. Now, she avoids some activities out of fear of exposing herself too much, like posting on social media or advertising where she’ll be when she goes out to sell food during the day for income. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“After this happened, I worry more than before,” she said. “But I will always fight for my family and for me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\n\u003cp>A controversial \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101914067/trump-administration-shovels-75-million-into-controversial-oakland-coal-terminal\">proposed coal terminal\u003c/a> in West Oakland was dealt two major blows this week, presenting new obstacles for the Trump administration-backed project.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>On Wednesday, a Kentucky federal court threw out a $1 billion lawsuit against Oakland from one of the developers behind the proposed export facility. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The company in that case, Insight Terminal Solutions, argued that the city interfered with its plans to build a facility that would process millions of tons of coal, leading to the company’s bankruptcy.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>That same day, Gov. Gavin Newsom signed Assembly Bill 40 into law, which requires that developers prepare an environmental impact report before building a large-volume bulk coal facility. The law applies to any such new facility in the state but its author, Oakland Assemblymember Mia Bonta, designed the bill to apply to the so-called West Gateway Terminal project. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/GavinNewsomAP.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12084670\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/GavinNewsomAP.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/GavinNewsomAP-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/GavinNewsomAP-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">California Gov. Gavin Newsom speaks about his state budget proposal on Thursday, May 14, 2026, in Sacramento, California. Newsom signed AB 40 into law this week, which requires developers prepare an environmental impact report before building a large-volume bulk coal facility. (Jeff Chiu/AP)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>If approved, more than 13 million tons of coal per year would be shipped overseas from the facility and stored in the open, according to a recent \u003ca href=\"https://ruic.utah.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/Port-Study-RUIC-Bulk-Commodity-Ocean-Terminals-Study.pdf\">report\u003c/a> prepared for investors. After lawsuits from the city of Oakland bogged the project down for decades, the Trump administration announced a $75 million investment into the project in June. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The project, which would be built on part of the former Oakland Army Base, is being pushed by developer Oakland Bulk Oversized Terminal, and formerly by Kentucky-based ITS, which was contracted to ship the coal out of the terminal. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>After a years-long legal battle with the city, OBOT succeeded through appeals last year and is still moving forward with the project. But the court drama didn’t end there. In 2025, a Kentucky bankruptcy judge found that Oakland \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/24/us/oakland-coal-port-budget-bankruptcy.html#commentsContainer\">burdened\u003c/a> ITS, and could owe the company between $230 and $654 million. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Kicked from Kentucky court \u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In a higher court, however, ITS’s case ran into challenges. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In his decision Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Benjamin Beaton said he chose to abstain from the case because it likely belonged in a California court instead, and vacated the 2025 bankruptcy ruling. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“ITS’s decision to file an adversary proceeding in bankruptcy court in Kentucky, rather than to sue in the California courts, carries at least a whiff of forum shopping,” Beaton wrote. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1306\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/CoalOaklandGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12087608\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/CoalOaklandGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/CoalOaklandGetty-160x104.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/CoalOaklandGetty-1536x1003.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A train loaded with coal approaches the Levin-Richmond Terminal in Richmond, California, on July 23, 2015. (Carlos Avila Gonzalez/The San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“The City of Oakland maintained from the start that this case was improper and should be dismissed,” the Oakland city attorney’s office said in a statement. “The district court agreed, and we’re pleased with the result.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Had Oakland been forced to pay ITS, it also could have also pushed the city to bankruptcy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“This is wonderful news for Oakland, and I think it takes the sword off of their neck,” said Ben Eichenberg, a senior staff attorney for pollution watchdog group San Francisco Baykeeper. “It’s my hope that what this means is that the city feels it can once again take a stand representing the majority of people in Oakland who do not want this terminal.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">New roadblocks and concerns \u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Though the coal would not be burned in Oakland, residents and environmental justice advocates worry that coal dust from uncovered trains blowing through the city could \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11749299/asthma-rates-higher-in-californias-historically-redlined-communities-new-study-finds\">add to existing health burdens\u003c/a>. Parts of West and East Oakland already suffer from some of the highest asthma-related emergency room visits and hospitalization \u003ca href=\"https://www.baaqmd.gov/~/media/files/ab617-community-health/air-pollution-and-health-risks_oakland-060418-pdf.pdf?la=en\">rates\u003c/a> in the country due to pollution from highways and industrial operations.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Bonta’s Community First Coal Review Act specifically addresses West Oakland’s environmental justice concerns. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“West Oakland residents are predominantly people of color, and the life expectancy for an African American child born and raised in West Oakland is at least 15 years fewer than for a white child born and raised in wealthier Oakland neighborhoods,” reads part of the legislation. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Local advocates who have been opposing the development for years applauded the governor’s signing of AB 40. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“This clears the way for a very comprehensive examination of the environmental impacts and requirements for mitigating all of those impacts,” Ted Franklin, an organizer with No Coal in Oakland said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>A 2023 \u003ca href=\"https://www.ucdavis.edu/climate/news/coal-trains-increase-air-pollution-san-francisco-bay-area\">study\u003c/a> by UC Davis researchers looked at trains carrying coal on the way to a terminal in Richmond and found that the transportation, handling and storage of coal all significantly increase community exposure to PM 2.5, or fine particulate matter. Exposure to fine particulate matter can \u003ca href=\"https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4740125/\">cause\u003c/a> asthma and respiratory inflammation, jeopardize lung functions and even promote cancers.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“The adverse effects are borne disproportionately by the most vulnerable, including infants, children and the elderly, people of color, those with low incomes, and those with underlying health conditions,” the study’s authors wrote.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Advocates have repeatedly raised those concerns despite assurances from developers that they would make a state-of-the-art facility to minimize health impacts.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>At least some of the concerns were validated by the \u003ca href=\"https://ruic.utah.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/Port-Study-RUIC-Bulk-Commodity-Ocean-Terminals-Study.pdf\">recent\u003c/a> investor report, which contained a surprising revelation: that the coal would be stored in “open-air bunkers.” That appeared to contradict previous assurances from developers that they would store the coal in covered silos to minimize the spread of toxic dust. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“In this incredibly windy area we live in, all that coal is gonna get blown all around and really impact the community,” Eichenberg said “And the developer had promised to have a state-of-the-art facility with everything covered. 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The law applies to any such new facility in the state but its author, Oakland Assemblymember Mia Bonta, designed the bill to apply to the so-called West Gateway Terminal project. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/GavinNewsomAP.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12084670\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/GavinNewsomAP.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/GavinNewsomAP-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/05/GavinNewsomAP-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">California Gov. Gavin Newsom speaks about his state budget proposal on Thursday, May 14, 2026, in Sacramento, California. Newsom signed AB 40 into law this week, which requires developers prepare an environmental impact report before building a large-volume bulk coal facility. (Jeff Chiu/AP)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>If approved, more than 13 million tons of coal per year would be shipped overseas from the facility and stored in the open, according to a recent \u003ca href=\"https://ruic.utah.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/Port-Study-RUIC-Bulk-Commodity-Ocean-Terminals-Study.pdf\">report\u003c/a> prepared for investors. After lawsuits from the city of Oakland bogged the project down for decades, the Trump administration announced a $75 million investment into the project in June. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The project, which would be built on part of the former Oakland Army Base, is being pushed by developer Oakland Bulk Oversized Terminal, and formerly by Kentucky-based ITS, which was contracted to ship the coal out of the terminal. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>After a years-long legal battle with the city, OBOT succeeded through appeals last year and is still moving forward with the project. But the court drama didn’t end there. In 2025, a Kentucky bankruptcy judge found that Oakland \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/24/us/oakland-coal-port-budget-bankruptcy.html#commentsContainer\">burdened\u003c/a> ITS, and could owe the company between $230 and $654 million. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Kicked from Kentucky court \u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In a higher court, however, ITS’s case ran into challenges. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In his decision Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Benjamin Beaton said he chose to abstain from the case because it likely belonged in a California court instead, and vacated the 2025 bankruptcy ruling. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“ITS’s decision to file an adversary proceeding in bankruptcy court in Kentucky, rather than to sue in the California courts, carries at least a whiff of forum shopping,” Beaton wrote. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1306\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/CoalOaklandGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12087608\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/CoalOaklandGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/CoalOaklandGetty-160x104.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/CoalOaklandGetty-1536x1003.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A train loaded with coal approaches the Levin-Richmond Terminal in Richmond, California, on July 23, 2015. (Carlos Avila Gonzalez/The San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“The City of Oakland maintained from the start that this case was improper and should be dismissed,” the Oakland city attorney’s office said in a statement. “The district court agreed, and we’re pleased with the result.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Had Oakland been forced to pay ITS, it also could have also pushed the city to bankruptcy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“This is wonderful news for Oakland, and I think it takes the sword off of their neck,” said Ben Eichenberg, a senior staff attorney for pollution watchdog group San Francisco Baykeeper. “It’s my hope that what this means is that the city feels it can once again take a stand representing the majority of people in Oakland who do not want this terminal.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">New roadblocks and concerns \u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Though the coal would not be burned in Oakland, residents and environmental justice advocates worry that coal dust from uncovered trains blowing through the city could \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11749299/asthma-rates-higher-in-californias-historically-redlined-communities-new-study-finds\">add to existing health burdens\u003c/a>. Parts of West and East Oakland already suffer from some of the highest asthma-related emergency room visits and hospitalization \u003ca href=\"https://www.baaqmd.gov/~/media/files/ab617-community-health/air-pollution-and-health-risks_oakland-060418-pdf.pdf?la=en\">rates\u003c/a> in the country due to pollution from highways and industrial operations.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Bonta’s Community First Coal Review Act specifically addresses West Oakland’s environmental justice concerns. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“West Oakland residents are predominantly people of color, and the life expectancy for an African American child born and raised in West Oakland is at least 15 years fewer than for a white child born and raised in wealthier Oakland neighborhoods,” reads part of the legislation. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Local advocates who have been opposing the development for years applauded the governor’s signing of AB 40. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“This clears the way for a very comprehensive examination of the environmental impacts and requirements for mitigating all of those impacts,” Ted Franklin, an organizer with No Coal in Oakland said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>A 2023 \u003ca href=\"https://www.ucdavis.edu/climate/news/coal-trains-increase-air-pollution-san-francisco-bay-area\">study\u003c/a> by UC Davis researchers looked at trains carrying coal on the way to a terminal in Richmond and found that the transportation, handling and storage of coal all significantly increase community exposure to PM 2.5, or fine particulate matter. Exposure to fine particulate matter can \u003ca href=\"https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4740125/\">cause\u003c/a> asthma and respiratory inflammation, jeopardize lung functions and even promote cancers.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“The adverse effects are borne disproportionately by the most vulnerable, including infants, children and the elderly, people of color, those with low incomes, and those with underlying health conditions,” the study’s authors wrote.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Advocates have repeatedly raised those concerns despite assurances from developers that they would make a state-of-the-art facility to minimize health impacts.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>At least some of the concerns were validated by the \u003ca href=\"https://ruic.utah.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/Port-Study-RUIC-Bulk-Commodity-Ocean-Terminals-Study.pdf\">recent\u003c/a> investor report, which contained a surprising revelation: that the coal would be stored in “open-air bunkers.” That appeared to contradict previous assurances from developers that they would store the coal in covered silos to minimize the spread of toxic dust. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“In this incredibly windy area we live in, all that coal is gonna get blown all around and really impact the community,” Eichenberg said “And the developer had promised to have a state-of-the-art facility with everything covered. 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Legal experts warn, however, that the law and the lawsuits relying on it face unlikely odds in federal court.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>All three plaintiffs had preexisting lawsuits against the government and amended those complaints this week after the law’s signing. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>That includes Javier Ramirez, who was arrested on June 12, 2025, amid roving immigration raids in the Los Angeles area and less than a week after President Donald Trump sent more than 2,000 National Guardsmen and U.S. Marines into the region. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps://youtu.be/KXHFkYjpoeg\n\u003c/div>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Ramirez, who exports cars to Mexico and splits his time between Los Angeles and Tijuana, was at his family’s car lot in Montebello when agents drove up and walked in through a gate, left slightly open, according to security footage of the incident. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Ramirez told KQED the agents ignored posted signs saying “No Trespassing” and “Private Property.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“One of them points me out and yells, ‘Hey, just get him, he’s Mexican,’” Ramirez said, recounting the arrest. “That’s when they threw me down to the ground. I yelled at them, I’m telling them, ‘You know what, I have my passport. I was born here.’ They didn’t care. They didn’t care. They didn’t even check out my wallet or anything like that.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In the video, shared by his lawyer, agents can be seen wrestling Ramirez to the ground and kneeling on his back while an agent stands with another detained man nearby. Ramirez can be heard in the recordings telling agents he’s a citizen. His brother offered to give the officers Ramirez’ diabetes medication, according to his lawsuit, but they declined to take it.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>He spent four days in a federal detention facility. There, he fainted due to lack of medical care before he was released, he said. The case against him was later dropped. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>He’s now suing the U.S. and 20 agents who were involved in his arrest and detention for various rights violations, including unlawful detention, denial of due process and excessive use of force. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“I want justice,” Ramirez said. “I have kids as well, and as a proud Latino I also teach my kids to speak Spanish, and I don’t want them to, in the near future, just by looking Hispanic or them talking Spanish, have this happen to them.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Maria Garcia Baldizzone, an attorney representing Ramirez and the two other cases amended after the No Kings Act was signed, said all three cases involve U.S. citizens being wrongfully and violently detained, seemingly just for “looking Latino.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Our clients have been beaten by ICE agents or Border Patrol agents, they’ve been thrown to the ground,” Garcia Baldizzone said. “One of the other ones we filed [Tuesday] was Cary Lopez. She was nine months pregnant, and they had twisted her arm and pressed her body and her pregnant belly against their cars.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps://youtu.be/cqGkGxKNSHQ\n\u003c/div>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The third case involved a man named Angel Piña who said he was with his wife when he witnessed federal agents harassing three minors. Piña’s wife called 911, and soon after, an agent tackled him to the ground and two others piled on top. He was arrested and taken by ambulance to the hospital after suffering injuries to his head, ankle and shoulder. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps://youtu.be/lV77pDgNLlM\n\u003c/div>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Garcia Baldizzone said all three cases are seeking compensatory damages for the suffering that the plaintiffs endured and punitive damages from the individual agents for these violations of rights. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“I’m hoping to hold these agents accountable for what they’ve done to our clients, what they have done to other people and to show them that it’s not right, that what they’re doing is not right,” she said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Whether the cases will succeed, however, remains to be seen. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Although Congress has passed laws establishing a right to sue local and state officials for violating constitutional rights, the Legislature has never done the same for federal officials, said Kevin Johnson, a distinguished professor of law emeritus at the UC Davis School of Law.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The Supreme Court ruled in favor of a man named Webster Bivens in 1971 who sued six agents for violating his constitutional rights. Cases in later years seeking accountability from federal officials cited the Bivens ruling, but Johnson said two rulings in the past decade have significantly limited the ability to bring such suits, called Bivens actions. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The No Kings Act, introduced by San Francisco state Sen. 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They could end up on appeal, perhaps,” Johnson said. “I’m sympathetic with the concept of providing a right to relief, but I don’t see how the state government can regulate the federal law enforcement functions.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>California follows New York, Vermont, Connecticut and Massachusetts, which passed similar laws earlier this year meant to create a cause of action in their respective states for suing federal officials, according to \u003ca href=\"https://protectdemocracy.org/work/protect-democracy-applauds-california-legislatures-passage-of-the-no-kings-act/\">Protecting Democracy\u003c/a>, a co-sponsor of the No Kings Act. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Time will tell whether the ensuing lawsuits are able to withstand legal scrutiny and secure the compensation plaintiffs are seeking. 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Piña’s wife called 911, and soon after, an agent tackled him to the ground and two others piled on top. 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"content": "\n\u003cp>Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a slate of 21 bills on Tuesday \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12097637/lawmakers-send-immigration-detention-bills-to-gov-newsom\">aimed at increasing oversight\u003c/a> of federal immigration detention and reining in what he called the “Orwellian” tactics of the Trump administration’s approach to immigration enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The enactment of the new laws comes as immigration arrests have \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12097313/northern-california-ice-arrests-surged-this-summer\">soared to new levels\u003c/a>, with nearly 50,000 arrests nationwide in July. California had the third-highest number of those arrests, and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has recently expanded detention capacity in the state as part of President Donald Trump’s campaign to achieve “mass deportation.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/2026/09/29/governor-newsom-signs-bills-to-push-back-on-trumps-orwellian-immigration-tactics-to-protect-immigrant-communities/\">wide-ranging laws\u003c/a>, authored by Democrats from across the state, included measures to restrict law enforcement use of electroshock gloves, masks and flash-bang grenades, enable individuals to sue federal officials in state court over rights violations and require local agencies to release 911 call records originating from ICE facilities.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Several bills focused on expanding the state’s power to enforce health and safety standards in immigration detention, restrict construction of new detention centers and tax private detention facilities.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1706\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101938\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-2000x1333.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-2048x1365.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents walk outside the Ventura County Government Center in Ventura, California, on July 27, 2026. (Blake Fagan/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003cp>In his signing statement, Newsom noted that the underlying authority for immigration enforcement lies with the federal government. But he insisted that facilities in California are subject to the state’s standards and oversight. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Trump has put his political interests above the health, safety and livelihood of American families,” Newsom said. “California is taking action to strengthen transparency, accountability, and oversight around immigration enforcement in our state. This is about stepping up where the federal government has failed our communities.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>At a time when the number of people who died in ICE custody hit a two-decade high last year and continues to surge, legal watchdogs are raising alarms about the conditions inside the eight immigration jails in California. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>One of the new laws, SB 942, authored by Central Valley Sen. Ana Caballero, creates a bill of rights for people in all forms of civil custody in California, including immigration detention. It establishes minimum standards for medical care, food, water, sanitation, religious practice, contact with family and access to legal counsel. And it gives the state attorney general new powers to enforce those standards.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Hamid Yazdan Panah, co-director of Immigrant Defense Advocates, called it a “first of its kind” law.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“California in many ways is leading the nation when it comes to pushing the envelope in terms of protecting the health and safety of immigrants in detention,” he said. “For years, we’ve passed bills that have been the first of their kind in the entire country and other states have followed suit and taken inspiration from those bills. This year is no different.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Attorney General Rob Bonta co-sponsored that bill with Immigrant Defense Advocates in conjunction with another bill that extends existing state inspections of ICE facilities. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Here in California, we know our diversity is our strength. There is no room in California for President Trump’s hateful mass deportation and detention agenda,” Bonta said in a statement. “We will continue to fight to provide immigrants with the rights, necessities, and respect that they deserve.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Neither Core Civic nor GEO Group, the largest private prison companies operating ICE detention in California, responded to KQED’s request for comment.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Advocates who work with California immigrant families applauded the legislature and the governor for backing new legal protections at a time when fear is coursing through immigrant communities — even for individuals who have lawful status or have lived in the U.S. for decades.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Todd Benson, executive director of the multi-denominational community organization Faith in Action East Bay, credited the grassroots efforts of his members and others, who met with lawmakers and wrote letters to the governor, for the passage of the bills.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We’ve all seen examples of the brutality of ICE agents. This goes against our faith values,” he said. “We believe that all human beings have dignity and should be treated with dignity and respect.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>He said increasing ICE arrests unnecessarily separate families and traumatize California children, and inhumane conditions in detention appear to be a “deliberate effort to get people to self deport.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>A bill from San Francisco Assemblymember Matt Haney will impose a 25% tax on the gross income of for-profit companies that operate immigration detention facilities — and put the money into a state fund to support immigration services.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12027566\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Assemblymember Matt Haney speaks during a press conference announcing legislation to increase nightlife in Downtown San Francisco to help the recovery of the neighborhood, in Union Square, San Francisco, on Feb. 18, 2025. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Masih Fouladi, executive director of the California Immigrant Policy Center, called it a win for accountability. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“No one should profit from tearing families apart,” Fouladi said. “Private detention corporations make hundreds of millions of dollars every year in California by separating parents from their children and locking up our neighbors in inhumane conditions. AB 1633 makes them pay for the trauma and suffering they inflict.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>He urged the governor to also sign a companion bill, AB 2465, that would bar private detention contractors from receiving state grants or loans.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The move to halt the use of electric shock gloves came as \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/ice-electric-shock-gloves-immigration-680c6f8a96736f46529287178c57b44b\">ICE awarded a nearly $17 million contract\u003c/a> last month to purchase 6,000 pairs. California sheriffs and other law enforcement groups \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2026/08/california-ice-electric-shock-gloves/\">opposed the ban\u003c/a>, which they consider a “less lethal” de-escalation tool. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>San Francisco Sen. Scott Wiener celebrated the signing of his bill to bar law enforcement officers from wearing masks, as well as another, dubbed the “No Kings Act,” to allow people to sue in state court over allegations that immigration agents have violated their civil rights. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20170515_StateCapitol_Sen_ScottWeiner_credit_BertJohnson-2_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101942\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20170515_StateCapitol_Sen_ScottWeiner_credit_BertJohnson-2_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20170515_StateCapitol_Sen_ScottWeiner_credit_BertJohnson-2_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20170515_StateCapitol_Sen_ScottWeiner_credit_BertJohnson-2_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">California State Senator Scott Weiner in Sacramento on May 15, 2017. (Bert Johnson/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003cp>He said that’s needed because of cases across the country where immigration agents have violently pulled people from their cars and homes, and have fatally shot both immigrants and U.S. citizens.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“ICE and Border Patrol have terrorized California communities with impunity. That ends today,” Wiener said. “When federal agents act lawlessly, they should be held accountable the same as any other lawbreaker.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Wiener’s office said they expect a few individuals to file suit shortly under the new law, which takes effect immediately and applies to incidents going back to March 2025. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, legal analysts expect the Trump administration to challenge a number of the new laws in court. Kevin Johnson, an emeritus professor at the UC Davis School of Law, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-gloves-shock-law-newsom-bill-91b68ae4fbd44065256fb5e6b06891ad\">told the Associated Press\u003c/a> that courts are likely to rule that the state cannot bar federal officers from wearing shock gloves or face coverings.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“The state has very limited, if any, powers in dictating to the federal government how its officers are armed,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>A few measures passed by the legislature were not among the 21 bills signed. They included a bill — vetoed by Newsom on Sunday night — that would have fortified a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12101563/newsom-vetoes-bill-to-fund-immigration-attorneys-in-rural-california\">pipeline of new immigration lawyers\u003c/a> to work in rural parts of California.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Also not signed were bills to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260sb941\">cap at 35% the markup private facilities can charge \u003c/a>detainees for commissary items, and the one to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab2465\">bar private detention contractors\u003c/a> from receiving state grants. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Newsom has until midnight on Sep. 30 to act on the remaining bills on his desk, in his last year as California’s governor.\u003c/p>\n",
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California had the third-highest number of those arrests, and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has recently expanded detention capacity in the state as part of President Donald Trump’s campaign to achieve “mass deportation.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/2026/09/29/governor-newsom-signs-bills-to-push-back-on-trumps-orwellian-immigration-tactics-to-protect-immigrant-communities/\">wide-ranging laws\u003c/a>, authored by Democrats from across the state, included measures to restrict law enforcement use of electroshock gloves, masks and flash-bang grenades, enable individuals to sue federal officials in state court over rights violations and require local agencies to release 911 call records originating from ICE facilities.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Several bills focused on expanding the state’s power to enforce health and safety standards in immigration detention, restrict construction of new detention centers and tax private detention facilities.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1706\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101938\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-2000x1333.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2287296637-2048x1365.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents walk outside the Ventura County Government Center in Ventura, California, on July 27, 2026. (Blake Fagan/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003cp>In his signing statement, Newsom noted that the underlying authority for immigration enforcement lies with the federal government. But he insisted that facilities in California are subject to the state’s standards and oversight. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Trump has put his political interests above the health, safety and livelihood of American families,” Newsom said. “California is taking action to strengthen transparency, accountability, and oversight around immigration enforcement in our state. This is about stepping up where the federal government has failed our communities.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>At a time when the number of people who died in ICE custody hit a two-decade high last year and continues to surge, legal watchdogs are raising alarms about the conditions inside the eight immigration jails in California. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>One of the new laws, SB 942, authored by Central Valley Sen. Ana Caballero, creates a bill of rights for people in all forms of civil custody in California, including immigration detention. It establishes minimum standards for medical care, food, water, sanitation, religious practice, contact with family and access to legal counsel. And it gives the state attorney general new powers to enforce those standards.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Hamid Yazdan Panah, co-director of Immigrant Defense Advocates, called it a “first of its kind” law.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“California in many ways is leading the nation when it comes to pushing the envelope in terms of protecting the health and safety of immigrants in detention,” he said. “For years, we’ve passed bills that have been the first of their kind in the entire country and other states have followed suit and taken inspiration from those bills. This year is no different.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Attorney General Rob Bonta co-sponsored that bill with Immigrant Defense Advocates in conjunction with another bill that extends existing state inspections of ICE facilities. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Here in California, we know our diversity is our strength. There is no room in California for President Trump’s hateful mass deportation and detention agenda,” Bonta said in a statement. “We will continue to fight to provide immigrants with the rights, necessities, and respect that they deserve.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Neither Core Civic nor GEO Group, the largest private prison companies operating ICE detention in California, responded to KQED’s request for comment.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Advocates who work with California immigrant families applauded the legislature and the governor for backing new legal protections at a time when fear is coursing through immigrant communities — even for individuals who have lawful status or have lived in the U.S. for decades.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Todd Benson, executive director of the multi-denominational community organization Faith in Action East Bay, credited the grassroots efforts of his members and others, who met with lawmakers and wrote letters to the governor, for the passage of the bills.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We’ve all seen examples of the brutality of ICE agents. This goes against our faith values,” he said. “We believe that all human beings have dignity and should be treated with dignity and respect.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>He said increasing ICE arrests unnecessarily separate families and traumatize California children, and inhumane conditions in detention appear to be a “deliberate effort to get people to self deport.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>A bill from San Francisco Assemblymember Matt Haney will impose a 25% tax on the gross income of for-profit companies that operate immigration detention facilities — and put the money into a state fund to support immigration services.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12027566\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/250218-SFDowntown-14-BL-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Assemblymember Matt Haney speaks during a press conference announcing legislation to increase nightlife in Downtown San Francisco to help the recovery of the neighborhood, in Union Square, San Francisco, on Feb. 18, 2025. (Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Masih Fouladi, executive director of the California Immigrant Policy Center, called it a win for accountability. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“No one should profit from tearing families apart,” Fouladi said. “Private detention corporations make hundreds of millions of dollars every year in California by separating parents from their children and locking up our neighbors in inhumane conditions. AB 1633 makes them pay for the trauma and suffering they inflict.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>He urged the governor to also sign a companion bill, AB 2465, that would bar private detention contractors from receiving state grants or loans.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The move to halt the use of electric shock gloves came as \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/ice-electric-shock-gloves-immigration-680c6f8a96736f46529287178c57b44b\">ICE awarded a nearly $17 million contract\u003c/a> last month to purchase 6,000 pairs. California sheriffs and other law enforcement groups \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2026/08/california-ice-electric-shock-gloves/\">opposed the ban\u003c/a>, which they consider a “less lethal” de-escalation tool. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>San Francisco Sen. Scott Wiener celebrated the signing of his bill to bar law enforcement officers from wearing masks, as well as another, dubbed the “No Kings Act,” to allow people to sue in state court over allegations that immigration agents have violated their civil rights. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20170515_StateCapitol_Sen_ScottWeiner_credit_BertJohnson-2_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101942\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20170515_StateCapitol_Sen_ScottWeiner_credit_BertJohnson-2_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20170515_StateCapitol_Sen_ScottWeiner_credit_BertJohnson-2_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20170515_StateCapitol_Sen_ScottWeiner_credit_BertJohnson-2_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">California State Senator Scott Weiner in Sacramento on May 15, 2017. (Bert Johnson/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003cp>He said that’s needed because of cases across the country where immigration agents have violently pulled people from their cars and homes, and have fatally shot both immigrants and U.S. citizens.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“ICE and Border Patrol have terrorized California communities with impunity. That ends today,” Wiener said. “When federal agents act lawlessly, they should be held accountable the same as any other lawbreaker.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Wiener’s office said they expect a few individuals to file suit shortly under the new law, which takes effect immediately and applies to incidents going back to March 2025. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, legal analysts expect the Trump administration to challenge a number of the new laws in court. Kevin Johnson, an emeritus professor at the UC Davis School of Law, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-gloves-shock-law-newsom-bill-91b68ae4fbd44065256fb5e6b06891ad\">told the Associated Press\u003c/a> that courts are likely to rule that the state cannot bar federal officers from wearing shock gloves or face coverings.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“The state has very limited, if any, powers in dictating to the federal government how its officers are armed,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>A few measures passed by the legislature were not among the 21 bills signed. They included a bill — vetoed by Newsom on Sunday night — that would have fortified a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12101563/newsom-vetoes-bill-to-fund-immigration-attorneys-in-rural-california\">pipeline of new immigration lawyers\u003c/a> to work in rural parts of California.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Also not signed were bills to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260sb941\">cap at 35% the markup private facilities can charge \u003c/a>detainees for commissary items, and the one to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab2465\">bar private detention contractors\u003c/a> from receiving state grants. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Newsom has until midnight on Sep. 30 to act on the remaining bills on his desk, in his last year as California’s governor.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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General Assembly.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>State and local governments are leading, he said, as “Trump is trying to recreate the 19th century” by reopening coal plants, announcing new plans for \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/offshore-drilling-california-trump-newsom-oil-1e5b0c52b128daddb3a1f112acd44fd6\">oil drilling including off California\u003c/a>, and centering his energy policy on \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/trump-coal-zeldin-mercury-epa-emissions-b770d6efd05f19ed24b179511c726196\">fossil fuels\u003c/a> that cause climate change.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“He’s doubling down on stupid, and he’s putting the American economy at risk,” Newsom said in an interview. He called Trump the most destructive environmental president in American history and “an invasive species.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6_Kl2oVOTs\n\u003c/div>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>White House spokeswoman Taylor Rogers used Trump’s derogatory nickname for the governor, “Newscum,” in responding to the comments. She said his “doubling down on Biden’s unpopular, unreliable and costly Green New Scam is stupid.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“No one is surprised to see him whining about the climate change hoax at another conference instead of fixing the problems plaguing his state: out-of-control crime, the highest homeless population in the United States, and wildfire victims still waiting on state permits to rebuild their homes and businesses,” Taylor wrote in an email.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Newsom has long been trying to counter Trump’s climate approach\u003cbr>\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Newsom, a Democrat eyeing a 2028 presidential run, has sought to counter Trump’s stance on climate issues before. \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/newsom-california-climate-change-cop30-trump-942d4d6847130d9ffc4dc2eb3e630a6e\">He went to the U.N. climate talks\u003c/a> hosted in Belem, Brazil in 2025 when Trump skipped it.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Trump prioritizes \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/trump-coal-mining-power-plant-climate-electricity-0a7126d66de97b10f32eaa39b1af669f\">fossil fuels to produce electricity\u003c/a>. The Biden administration \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/business-gulf-of-mexico-wind-power-environment-and-nature-e91e930df8b002390da02e524e7f6441\">sought to ramp up clean energy\u003c/a> as a climate change solution. Trump began reversing U.S. energy policies his first day back in office.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Last year at the UN, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/trump-un-climate-change-renewable-energy-5c033a24ec523a56f8244d85f3672eda\">Trump called climate change\u003c/a> the “greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world.” He has hindered renewable energy, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/trump-offshore-wind-energy-climate-c0ac1e447c93126327f1922327921aa0\">particularly offshore wind\u003c/a>, while \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/offshore-wind-energy-climate-trump-b8be5561c56d8932ef97fcbec9062fe1\">China and other countries invest heavily\u003c/a>. China leads the world in adding wind and solar power, though it also added a lot of coal power last year.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Chinese President Xi Jinping \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/trump-xi-arrival-washington-state-visit-baea8dbdb8c832ae1b295579709dc967\">begins his state visit\u003c/a> to Washington Wednesday. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>As the economic and technological competition between the countries escalates, Newsom said the Chinese leader is “cleaning our clock from an economic perspective.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Trump and Xi are expected to discuss artificial intelligence as they meet this week. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said the U.S. has proposed a new “ \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/bessent-ai-xi-trump-china-trade-2c7f54f07e755f506d9db9b91df282bd\">notification mechanism\u003c/a> ” for AI incidents that could affect national security.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Newsom also not happy with Trump AI stance\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Newsom was critical of Trump for not doing more to add guardrails and instead listening to advice to let artificial intelligence “rip.” Newsom announced Wednesday a group of experts who will advise on \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/2026/09/23/governor-newsom-announces-world-leading-experts-to-deliver-on-his-ai-executive-order-including-advancing-creation-of-a-kill-switch/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">oversight recommendations in California\u003c/a>, including advancing the creation of a potential “kill switch” for rogue frontier models.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Trump was in New York on Tuesday. Unlike last year’s climate-focused speech, Trump defended his actions against Iran as he spoke at the U.N. General Assembly and \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/trump-united-nations-unga-iran-ai-f7cb0b3ebc492446c0be97ed3a6843aa\">made the diplomatic rounds\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1291\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/GettyImages-2296206709-scaled-e1790208734376.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12101160\"/>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ministers speak at a UN Security Council meeting on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly at the United Nations on Sept. 20, 2026 in New York. 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He said that he hopes that the court’s decision “could hopefully protect all Americans” in the process.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In August, Trump launched “Truth API,” a feed that delivers posts from the “ten most influential accounts” on his social media platform, Truth Social, to users who pay $100,000 a month, before the same information is delivered to other users. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>According to the lawsuit, Trump Media Interim CEO Kevin McGurn “expressly stated that Truth API pushes out information at a ‘50 millisecond advantage’ that ‘goes right into an algorithmic trading platform,’” allowing subscribers to gain an advantage in the financial market by trading on that information.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The accounts have included Trump’s, along with other executive branch officials, including Vice President JD Vance, White House Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Scavino and outgoing White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, according to the complaint. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Chiu alleges that Truth Social is aiding and abetting Trump’s violation of federal ethics and anti-corruption law, which prohibits federal officials from profiting off of nonpublic information they obtain through government service.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>It also says Trump Media is violating other federal laws protecting against insider trading that prohibit selling nonpublic information from people with a duty of trust to individuals who might trade it for unfair financial advantage.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The suit alleges that Trump, who owns 41% of Trump Media, has made “numerous” announcements of policy decisions or official government information via posts on Truth Social that have influenced financial markets — including around high country-by-country tariffs in 2025, and conversations with international leaders regarding the war in Iran.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Chiu said Tuesday that the service is particularly troubling because Truth Social is “often the first and only venue where the president announces major federal actions” as the White House moves to \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2026/09/22/nx-s1-5976917/news-organizations-barred-from-white-house-sue-trump-as-other-outlets-protests-ban\">limit access\u003c/a> to traditional media outlets. 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The blockbuster deal \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/warner-discovery-paramount-skydance-cbs-cnn-26252771aa58c8b6b2243809bad13e77\">will still bring together\u003c/a> two of Hollywood’s oldest studios, key TV networks like CBS and CNN and streaming platforms HBO Max and Paramount+, as well as decades-old libraries with titles ranging from “Harry Potter” to “Top Gun.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But among terms of Monday’s agreement announced by California Attorney General Rob Bonta — who led the states’ case — Paramount pledged to increase film production in the U.S., commit millions of dollars to a fund aimed at supporting workers who are displaced by the merger and establish monitoring of editorial independence of the company’s news operations.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The settlement still needs a final sign-off by a judge. Bonta said Monday’s agreement was about “protecting people’s careers, the lives they’ve built here in California, the livelihoods their families rely on” — but he maintained it was not a vote in support of the merger.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260717-FILMMAKER-RALLY-MD-01-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12091614\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260717-FILMMAKER-RALLY-MD-01-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260717-FILMMAKER-RALLY-MD-01-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/07/260717-FILMMAKER-RALLY-MD-01-KQED-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Filmmaker and comedian W. Kamau Bell speaks at a rally calling for immediate action to stop the proposed $110 billion Paramount Skydance and Warner Bros. Discovery merger, in front of the federal courthouse in Oakland on July 17, 2026. (Martin do Nascimento/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“I don’t think these two companies should merge,” Bonta said in a Monday press conference. “But that’s not something that we are focused on with our resolution here.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Paramount CEO David Ellison welcomed the settlement, which he said marked “complete clearance for this merger.” He added that “bringing Paramount and Warner Bros. Discovery together will build that stronger Hollywood, creating expanded opportunity for our people and even more great entertainment for audiences around the world.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The coalition of states — including entertainment heavyweights like California and New York — sued to block the merger in July, alleging a Paramount-Warner combo would “extinguish competition” and lead to fewer choices for consumers, particularly movie theatergoers and cable customers across the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The Writers Guild of America also filed suit, and both challenges were headed toward a full antitrust trial set to kick off in March. 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It then \u003ca href=\"https://ir.paramount.com/news-releases/news-release-details/paramount-skydance-satisfies-all-regulatory-conditions-under\">quickly called\u003c/a> for a settlement — arguing that it had satisfied all regulatory clearances worldwide (including from \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/paramount-warner-regulation-antitrust-994c277d12297b8a7507fcb78004f679\">the Trump administration’s Justice Department\u003c/a> ), saying that the states’ lawsuit, in particular, was its “final obstacle.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>As reports of the states reaching a settlement with Paramount emerged Monday, critics decried the deal — while warning of what further consolidation could mean in an industry \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/warner-discovery-paramount-skydance-cbs-cnn-26252771aa58c8b6b2243809bad13e77\">already controlled\u003c/a> by just a few major players.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Today, billionaires have yet again bribed, censored, and bullied their way to the top,” Alvaro Bedoya, senior adviser at the American Economic Liberties Project and a former commissioner of the Federal Trade Commission, said in a statement. “Layoffs will follow. 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Reporter Sara DiNatale joins us to explain how the airport has become a de facto detention center.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/sfo-immigration-detention-ice-22405344.php\">Under Trump, SFO is now a de facto immigration detention center (San Francisco Chronicle)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\u003cstrong>Episode transcript\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This transcript is computer-generated. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. Earlier this summer, plain clothes immigration officers were seen at San Francisco International Airport, pinning down a woman as she cried for help. Concerned travelers hovered nearby, recording the incident.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Iryna Gorb: \u003c/strong>No, they’re fucking ICE! I’m from Ukraine!\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>The woman would be later identified as 38-year-old Iryna Gorb, a Ukrainian photographer and barista who’s been living and working in the U.S. for the last 16 years. Here’s her friend, Andy Eblin, speaking to KQED.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Andy Eblin: \u003c/strong>There’s a reason that she’s got a lot of support, she is a good person that helped out a lot. That’s just kinda how she was.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Gorb was detained by ICE for seven weeks. And it’s not just people being arrested by ICE at airports. According to reporting from the San Francisco Chronicle, SFO is also being used as a de facto detention center by Customs and Border Protection.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sara DiNatale: \u003c/strong>The impression that a lot of immigration attorneys have and folks who have been in the detention centers recently have told me like, yeah, a lot of people I’m in here with are people who were picked up at the airport.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Today, we talk with the San Francisco Chronicle’s Sara DiNatale about how airports have become the new frontier in Trump’s immigration crackdown.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sara DiNatale: \u003c/strong>It’s not like this is happening constantly, but it is still happening more because it used to never happen. Historically ICE agents have not entered airports, domestic terminals, picking up people for visa overstays, especially people with visa overstay that have no criminal history. 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So the thought among immigration attorneys and other experts in immigration is that the shift to focusing on airports is a response to the fact that it is not as easy anymore to get people when they’re doing court hearings or check-ins with ICE because of these court orders. Trump has still made it clear that he has, you know, these large deportation goals. And so that is why people think airports have become a shift in that strategy.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Can you kind of describe some of the kinds of immigration actions that are happening at airports like SFO?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sara DiNatale: \u003c/strong>Yeah, the videos we’ve seen all follow a very similar formula. You typically see plain, closed ICE agents. It’s not particularly obvious that they’re federal immigration enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Iryna Gorb: \u003c/strong>I need more! No!\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sara DiNatale: \u003c/strong>They are coming to the airport with some kind of list or understanding of exactly who they’re targeting. TSA is likely sharing information. So they’re intersecting them either right when they’re getting off a flight or waiting to get on a flight.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So we’re seeing these videos of people getting arrested at airports, but also your reporting has shown that people are actually being detained and held at San Francisco International Airport by Customs and Border Protection sometimes for days. Can you tell us a little bit more about what your reporting found?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sara DiNatale: \u003c/strong>Yeah, and there’s an important distinction here. Both practices are both part of Trump’s broader deportation crackdown, but the methods and framework that are being used are a little different. So when we’re talking about the people who are in domestic terminals that ICE agents are arresting in, those people are not the same people that we found being held in the airport. The people being held at the airport are flying internationally. Because when you’re flying internationally, you are essentially at the border asking for entry. And what we found and what our reporting found is that the people held at the airport are having this longer in-between step. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:\u003c/strong> So what exactly has changed? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sara DiNatale:\u003c/strong> Traditionally, if you had been flying internationally you have a work permit visa or a green card and something about your background check pops in the Customs and Border Protection system. If it wasn’t like an active warrant, typically they would say, hey, something weird popped up on your your background check, we need to set up a follow up appointment to go through this, you would get like a temporary release. So you’re allowed to leave the airport and you know, you have to come back and check with the customs officers. Sometimes you would be able to bring your immigration attorney. And they’re basically holding your green card or your work permit as collateral. So like people always came back for these appointments. It wasn’t like people were running off. But now the follow-up appointment, which is called deferred inspection, is essentially dead. And so instead of a follow-up appointment, they’re just holding them at the airport until they can decide what to do with them. 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You just have to hold tight and the time that they’re waiting to get those records can span. If it is a Friday, the court is not going to send the certified records over the weekend. I’ve also had immigration attorneys tell me like, I have certified court records for the, like for this individual and I’m happy to bring them. And the agent said, no, we need them directly from either the arresting police agency or the court. Even if that was the case in the before times, it didn’t automatically mean you needed to be detained while you were awaiting that hearing. But now under Trump’s current executive orders, he’s made it very clear if there is a question about your admissibility and questions about your criminal history, you absolutely need to remain detained. They still have in there, it’s still linked on their website, you can read it, that people should not be held for more than 72 hours. And when we looked at the federal data which encompassed all the airports, we found that Customs and Border Protection has detained more than 400 people at international airports for longer than 72-hours since January and through July. And then of that 400 people, 146 were people who had valid green cards, so they were lawful permanent residents.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>And where exactly in the airport are they being held?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sara DiNatale:\u003c/strong> It’s between A and G and like the part that connects both terminals that you like walk between. It’s all behind like the area you can’t get to unless like a customs agent is like walking with you. So this particular room is like kind of deep into the innards of the airport. There’s no windows. I have not been inside of it. They will not let me in. But it’s been described to me as just like a very, it looks like a basic like waiting room. Not somewhere you wanna sleep for days. There’s no beds. If you’ve ever been through customs and you get pulled for a secondary interview, you’re not allowed to have your phone. And that is the same with when you’re in being held in one of these rooms. You don’t have a phone or anything. So at SFO we know of 25 people who were held there for more than 72 hours from January through July and then 19 of those 25 people were transferred to ICE custody.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>We’ll have more with The Chronicle’s Sara DiNatale right after this. By the way, if you appreciate the local deep dives that we bring you on the bay, consider supporting our work by becoming a sustaining member of KQED. We can’t do this work without you. Just go to donate.kqed.org/podcasts. 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"innerHTML": "\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sara DiNatale: \u003c/strong>So when someone is coming, re-entering the country, court history and case law history, time and time again says the government has its peak authority at that moment, because it is a matter of national security. And that gives them a lot of latitude to do these things within a legal framework. That’s not to say that like everything they’re doing is legal and won’t face legal challenges. We have seen attorneys challenge these spaces and, you know, saying, hey, you need to at least make sure they meet, like, the minimum requirement for what makes a facility safe.\u003c/p>\n",
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So we have seen this happen at our airport in San Francisco, it picked up over the summer and around that same time that we were noticing it locally, the New York Times tracked that it was happening regularly or at least semi-regularly at 15 major airports across the country.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>And I mean, this is not something that we’ve seen before, like these kinds of immigration enforcement actions happening at airports. 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So the thought among immigration attorneys and other experts in immigration is that the shift to focusing on airports is a response to the fact that it is not as easy anymore to get people when they’re doing court hearings or check-ins with ICE because of these court orders. Trump has still made it clear that he has, you know, these large deportation goals. And so that is why people think airports have become a shift in that strategy.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Can you kind of describe some of the kinds of immigration actions that are happening at airports like SFO?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sara DiNatale: \u003c/strong>Yeah, the videos we’ve seen all follow a very similar formula. You typically see plain, closed ICE agents. It’s not particularly obvious that they’re federal immigration enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Iryna Gorb: \u003c/strong>I need more! 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So when we’re talking about the people who are in domestic terminals that ICE agents are arresting in, those people are not the same people that we found being held in the airport. The people being held at the airport are flying internationally. Because when you’re flying internationally, you are essentially at the border asking for entry. And what we found and what our reporting found is that the people held at the airport are having this longer in-between step. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:\u003c/strong> So what exactly has changed? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sara DiNatale:\u003c/strong> Traditionally, if you had been flying internationally you have a work permit visa or a green card and something about your background check pops in the Customs and Border Protection system. If it wasn’t like an active warrant, typically they would say, hey, something weird popped up on your your background check, we need to set up a follow up appointment to go through this, you would get like a temporary release. So you’re allowed to leave the airport and you know, you have to come back and check with the customs officers. Sometimes you would be able to bring your immigration attorney. And they’re basically holding your green card or your work permit as collateral. So like people always came back for these appointments. It wasn’t like people were running off. But now the follow-up appointment, which is called deferred inspection, is essentially dead. And so instead of a follow-up appointment, they’re just holding them at the airport until they can decide what to do with them. 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And when we looked at the federal data which encompassed all the airports, we found that Customs and Border Protection has detained more than 400 people at international airports for longer than 72-hours since January and through July. And then of that 400 people, 146 were people who had valid green cards, so they were lawful permanent residents.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>And where exactly in the airport are they being held?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sara DiNatale:\u003c/strong> It’s between A and G and like the part that connects both terminals that you like walk between. It’s all behind like the area you can’t get to unless like a customs agent is like walking with you. So this particular room is like kind of deep into the innards of the airport. There’s no windows. I have not been inside of it. They will not let me in. But it’s been described to me as just like a very, it looks like a basic like waiting room. Not somewhere you wanna sleep for days. There’s no beds. If you’ve ever been through customs and you get pulled for a secondary interview, you’re not allowed to have your phone. And that is the same with when you’re in being held in one of these rooms. You don’t have a phone or anything. So at SFO we know of 25 people who were held there for more than 72 hours from January through July and then 19 of those 25 people were transferred to ICE custody.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>We’ll have more with The Chronicle’s Sara DiNatale right after this. By the way, if you appreciate the local deep dives that we bring you on the bay, consider supporting our work by becoming a sustaining member of KQED. We can’t do this work without you. Just go to donate.kqed.org/podcasts. 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They cuffed his wrists and his feet, and they put him into a van, and they drove him to SFO. He was very confused about like what he was being arrested for on his way there actually in the van. He’s already starting to panic, especially because of his medical conditions. So he has diabetes and it was the end of his trip. So he didn’t have any more insulin on him because he was expecting to go home. Customs agents put him in this room. He is allowed one phone call to contact his son specifically just to ask for his medications. His son has to drive then from Fresno to SFO to deliver the medications. He also has no way to test his blood sugar. And it isn’t until a paramedic from the airport comes in to check him. That it becomes clear that he is having an episode. His blood sugar is way out of a normal range, he clearly needs insulin, and they do give him his insulin from his son finally, and he’s able to use it. He’s there for eight days. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003c!-- Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/ -->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was originally published by \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/\">CalMatters\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/subscribe-to-calmatters/\">Sign up\u003c/a> for their newsletters.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was March when a group of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/california\">California\u003c/a> lawmakers decided they’d broach a sticky topic: child marriage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the next three months, Democrats would devise a plan to persuade reluctant colleagues to finally outlaw the practice and contend with special interest groups that might work against them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In what might come as a surprise, it’s legal for anyone \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2023/06/child-marriage-california/\">younger than 18\u003c/a> to get married in California, so long as a parent and judge approve. Perhaps even more surprising, two influential groups in Democratic politics — the American Civil Liberties Union and Planned Parenthood — have historically staunchly supported the law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Children have a right to marry, the ACLU argues, and stripping them of that right would take away a pathway to their emancipation and independent healthcare decisions. For Planned Parenthood, the freedom for children to marry is about allowing people reproductive choice and bodily autonomy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just two other states — New Mexico and Mississippi — have no minimum age to wed. And while minors can marry at any age in California, advocates say it’s hard to hire a divorce attorney before 18.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About 9,000 children are married each year in California, the vast majority of them girls marrying adult men, according to the nonprofit advocacy group \u003ca href=\"https://unchainedatlast.org/\">Unchained at Last\u003c/a>. Because the age of consent for sexual activity is 18, advocates say marriages between children under 18 and adults implicitly legalize a sexual relationship that would otherwise be considered statutory rape under state law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953900\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11953900\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/ChildBridesCM01.jpg\" alt=\"Protestors in white wedding gowns and lacey veils walk toward California's Capitol Building. Some have black tape over their mouths in an X shape. Each individual also wears a red stop sign on their chest that reads, "Stop Child Marriage in CA."\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1279\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/ChildBridesCM01.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/ChildBridesCM01-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/ChildBridesCM01-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/ChildBridesCM01-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/ChildBridesCM01-1536x1023.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Forced and child marriage survivors arrive at a protest, organized to support a ban on child marriage, at the state Capitol in Sacramento on June 22, 2023. \u003ccite>(Rahul Lal/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The organization has worked for the past decade to push for bans in New York, Oklahoma, Washington and a dozen other states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But their efforts have repeatedly failed in California, where Planned Parenthood and the ACLU have lobbied hard against restricting child marriage, although those groups have largely stayed silent on the issue in other Democratic-controlled states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That can partially be explained by their outsize influence in California politics. Planned Parenthood advocates on behalf of some of the most cherished liberal causes and has donated at least $2.7 million to Democratic lawmakers since 2002, according to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/organizations/-9294\">CalMatters’ Digital Democracy\u003c/a> database.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This year, Democrats faced different circumstances with the organization, prompting Democratic lawmakers in June to introduce \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab1267\">Assembly Bill 1267\u003c/a> to finally bar children from marrying.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assemblymember \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/legislators/gail-pellerin-149519\">Gail Pellerin\u003c/a> authored the bill through what’s called a “gut-and-amend” when lawmakers strip the language of an unrelated bill to fast-track a new one after the deadline to introduce bills the typical way had passed. Democrats missed the deadline because they wanted to make sure Planned Parenthood wouldn’t get in the way, according to advocates.[aside postID=news_12100528 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/ImmigrationCourtSFGetty.jpg']While the ACLU again opposed the legislation this year, there were no lobbyists to be found advocating for minors’ right to marry in committee hearings this summer, and Planned Parenthood stayed “neutral” on the bill, declining to take a position.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And even as some Democrats expressed hesitation about not allowing two teenagers in love to tie the knot, the ban passed the Legislature with near-unanimous support in August.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to make it clear that girls, despite their perceived maturity, are children,” Pellerin said in an interview. “Children don’t have unprotected freedom.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After nearly a decade of failed attempts to outlaw child marriage, the bill now awaits Gov. Gavin Newsom’s signature or veto. He has until Sept. 30.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>ACLU spokesperson Carmen King declined to respond to questions about why the group opposes the bill and did not make anyone available for an interview with CalMatters for this story.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a June opposition letter, the organization wrote, “Prohibiting minors from marrying in every case is a departure from California’s longstanding commitment to honoring minors’ ability to make important personal decisions for themselves, particularly in the realm of reproductive autonomy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Planned Parenthood did not say anything official about the bill and spokesperson Shelby McMichael declined to make anyone available for an interview with CalMatters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an emailed statement, McMichael said the group “takes positions on a bill-by-bill basis each session. Given the ‘defund’ of Planned Parenthood health centers this past year, we made the decision to prioritize issues related to the Trump administration and congressional Republicans’ ongoing attacks on health care.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘Planned Parenthood’s voice matters’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Its abortion care services at more than 100 clinics across the state have made Planned Parenthood a symbol of reproductive freedom in California for decades, though the group notes that abortion services make up only a fraction of its services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Its enmeshment with Democrats politics has only accelerated during the first and second Trump administrations as party leaders worked overtime to stave off federal defunding efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In February, California lawmakers approved \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2025/10/california-gives-planned-parenthood-140-million-boost-to-keep-clinics-open/\">$140 million in emergency funding\u003c/a> for the group to offset federal cuts. And on its website, Planned Parenthood keeps a \u003ca href=\"https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/uploads/filer_public/88/50/8850755d-bb8a-405e-bc9a-6799147c4cf0/ppac_legislative_scorecard_2025.pdf\">scorecard\u003c/a> of how often legislators vote in agreement with it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On its 2025 scorecard, all but one Democrat had a score of 100%.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12086554\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12086554\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/PlannedParenthoodSF.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/PlannedParenthoodSF.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/PlannedParenthoodSF-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/PlannedParenthoodSF-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Planned Parenthood Northern California health center in San Francisco, California, on Sept. 30, 2025. \u003ccite>(Smith Collection/Gado via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Two years ago, Irvine Assemblymember \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/legislators/cottie-petrie-norris-165040\">Cottie Petrie-Norris\u003c/a>, a Democrat, introduced Assembly Bill 2924 to ban minors from marrying.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assemblymember \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/legislators/ash-kalra-100938\">Ash Kalra\u003c/a> told advocates that Planned Parenthood had to drop its opposition before lawmakers could consider voting on the legislation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Jose Democrat, who chairs the Assembly Judiciary Committee, said banning minors from marriage would threaten their right to an abortion, which he said California hadn’t yet codified into law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Voters enshrined the right to an abortion in 2022, two years before the 2024 bill was introduced.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some lawmakers were also skeptical about whether the data on child marriages was accurate, Kalra said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He never gave the bill a hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think that absolutely was one of the factors, certainly,” Kalra said of Planned Parenthood’s opposition and his decision to kill the legislation. “Planned Parenthood’s voice matters in that, and in other issues that come before us in the Capitol.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047163\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047163\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/011_KQED_CrisisPregnancyCenter_11042022_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/011_KQED_CrisisPregnancyCenter_11042022_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/011_KQED_CrisisPregnancyCenter_11042022_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/011_KQED_CrisisPregnancyCenter_11042022_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Two women speak outside of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Napa on Nov. 4, 2022, about the dangers of abortion and birth control. She distributes pamphlets and refers people to the Napa Women’s Center, a facility next door opened by faith-based non-profit Napa Valley Culture of LIfe. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This reasoning harkened to earlier failed attempts, including in 2017 when Democrats killed another bill to change the state’s child marriage laws over similar reasons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then-Sen. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/people/66\">Jerry Hill\u003c/a> said he sought an outright ban on the practice after he learned of a 13-year-old girl in his district who was engaged to a 38-year-old man from another country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I thought, ‘Who could oppose that? Who could say that it was wrong?’” Hill said of the bill he introduced to ban child marriage. But he was left perplexed that what he thought was a commonsense policy proposal evolved into a larger debate about cultural differences, childhood freedom and bodily autonomy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In some cultures it’s acceptable for girls to be wedded to older men or be placed into arranged marriages, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-protection/child-marriage/#status\">United Nations report\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawmakers in recent years have proposed measures to clamp down on forced marriages, which are already a crime. Kalra is among them, this year authoring \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab2534\">Assembly Bill 2534\u003c/a> which would allow victims to file a restraining order against anyone coercing them into a marriage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kalra and women’s rights groups say it would be the first policy of its kind in the country if enacted into law. Planned Parenthood supports it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12041588\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12041588\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy-800x532.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy-160x106.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Planned Parenthood-East Los Angeles Health Center in East Los Angeles on Aug. 8th, 2022. \u003ccite>(Raquel Natalicchio for CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On the 2017 child marriage legislation, the ACLU and Planned Parenthood were staunch opponents, and then-Assemblymember \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/people/53\">Lorena Gonzalez\u003c/a>, a Democratic labor leader who chaired the Assembly Appropriations Committee at the time, told Hill she wouldn’t let a ban move forward unless it was amended to lower the minimum age to 16- or 17-year-olds instead of 18.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That bill was eventually weakened to become current law: Any young person can get married if a parent and the courts sign off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hill said his attempt and others were killed by special interest groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re so powerful, these interest groups in Sacramento. They have a lot of say and sway over what comes out of the Legislature,” said Hill, who represented Silicon Valley for 12 years. “Politics trumps policy about 80% of the time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gonzalez recalled it differently. While it’s true she refused to let an outright ban pass, she said, she doesn’t remember Planned Parenthood opposing the bill or considering it in her decision-making.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said when older teenage girls in her district got pregnant, it was common for some Latino families to encourage them to marry the father if he was the same or of similar age.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I had girls where they were telling me this is the best choice,” Gonzalez told CalMatters. She said the difference in age between partners seemed to matter more than the marriage itself. “At the time, it seemed very classist” to impose an outright ban, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘At least we’re here now’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>President Donald Trump’s push to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2025/07/planned-parenthood-california-defunded/\">defund Planned Parenthood\u003c/a> clinics put more political pressure on the group than usual in recent years and made the organization more reliant on state funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Things were made worse last November, when a \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/01/opinion/child-marriage-us.html?unlocked_article_code=1.x08.m5zB.NnTZyMPzpl2G&smid=url-share\">New York Times opinion\u003c/a> piece criticized the ACLU and Planned Parenthood for their roles in blocking legislation against child marriage while Republican-controlled states such as Arkansas and Louisiana imposed tighter restrictions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For survivor and advocate Sara Tasneem, California’s failure to act for several decades allowed her to be forcibly married at 15 to a 28-year-old man by her father, who she said was part of a Northern California “Sufi cult” that orchestrated it. When her father learned Tasneem was dating a high school classmate, he found someone for her to marry, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11312440\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11312440\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/02/IMG_5616-e1486854590713.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eva Muntean, right, protests in front of the Planned Parenthood clinic in San Francisco as part of a nationwide effort to get the federal government to cut off funding to the program. \u003ccite>(April Dembosky/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I was handed over to this complete stranger who I just met,” she said. She dropped out of school and was repeatedly raped, feeling trapped and unable to leave before she turned 18 because she couldn’t hire an attorney as a minor. Tasneem said she had two kids with her rapist, who she left in 2003, at age 23, taking her children.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Looking back and realizing she “didn’t grow up with a lot of power,” Tasneem turned to advocacy more than a decade later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most advocates are hopeful Newsom will sign the bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Should it have happened a decade earlier? Yes, it should have,” said Unchained at Last executive director Fraidy Reiss, who at 19 was forced to marry an older man in her New York Orthodox Jewish community. “But at least we’re here now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This article was \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2026/09/california-child-marriage/\">originally published on CalMatters\u003c/a> and was republished under the \u003ca href=\"https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/\">Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives\u003c/a> license.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>While the ACLU again opposed the legislation this year, there were no lobbyists to be found advocating for minors’ right to marry in committee hearings this summer, and Planned Parenthood stayed “neutral” on the bill, declining to take a position.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And even as some Democrats expressed hesitation about not allowing two teenagers in love to tie the knot, the ban passed the Legislature with near-unanimous support in August.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to make it clear that girls, despite their perceived maturity, are children,” Pellerin said in an interview. “Children don’t have unprotected freedom.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After nearly a decade of failed attempts to outlaw child marriage, the bill now awaits Gov. Gavin Newsom’s signature or veto. He has until Sept. 30.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>ACLU spokesperson Carmen King declined to respond to questions about why the group opposes the bill and did not make anyone available for an interview with CalMatters for this story.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a June opposition letter, the organization wrote, “Prohibiting minors from marrying in every case is a departure from California’s longstanding commitment to honoring minors’ ability to make important personal decisions for themselves, particularly in the realm of reproductive autonomy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Planned Parenthood did not say anything official about the bill and spokesperson Shelby McMichael declined to make anyone available for an interview with CalMatters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an emailed statement, McMichael said the group “takes positions on a bill-by-bill basis each session. Given the ‘defund’ of Planned Parenthood health centers this past year, we made the decision to prioritize issues related to the Trump administration and congressional Republicans’ ongoing attacks on health care.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘Planned Parenthood’s voice matters’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Its abortion care services at more than 100 clinics across the state have made Planned Parenthood a symbol of reproductive freedom in California for decades, though the group notes that abortion services make up only a fraction of its services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Its enmeshment with Democrats politics has only accelerated during the first and second Trump administrations as party leaders worked overtime to stave off federal defunding efforts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In February, California lawmakers approved \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2025/10/california-gives-planned-parenthood-140-million-boost-to-keep-clinics-open/\">$140 million in emergency funding\u003c/a> for the group to offset federal cuts. And on its website, Planned Parenthood keeps a \u003ca href=\"https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/uploads/filer_public/88/50/8850755d-bb8a-405e-bc9a-6799147c4cf0/ppac_legislative_scorecard_2025.pdf\">scorecard\u003c/a> of how often legislators vote in agreement with it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On its 2025 scorecard, all but one Democrat had a score of 100%.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12086554\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12086554\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/PlannedParenthoodSF.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/PlannedParenthoodSF.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/PlannedParenthoodSF-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/PlannedParenthoodSF-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Planned Parenthood Northern California health center in San Francisco, California, on Sept. 30, 2025. \u003ccite>(Smith Collection/Gado via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Two years ago, Irvine Assemblymember \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/legislators/cottie-petrie-norris-165040\">Cottie Petrie-Norris\u003c/a>, a Democrat, introduced Assembly Bill 2924 to ban minors from marrying.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Assemblymember \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/legislators/ash-kalra-100938\">Ash Kalra\u003c/a> told advocates that Planned Parenthood had to drop its opposition before lawmakers could consider voting on the legislation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Jose Democrat, who chairs the Assembly Judiciary Committee, said banning minors from marriage would threaten their right to an abortion, which he said California hadn’t yet codified into law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Voters enshrined the right to an abortion in 2022, two years before the 2024 bill was introduced.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some lawmakers were also skeptical about whether the data on child marriages was accurate, Kalra said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He never gave the bill a hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think that absolutely was one of the factors, certainly,” Kalra said of Planned Parenthood’s opposition and his decision to kill the legislation. “Planned Parenthood’s voice matters in that, and in other issues that come before us in the Capitol.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12047163\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12047163\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/011_KQED_CrisisPregnancyCenter_11042022_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/011_KQED_CrisisPregnancyCenter_11042022_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/011_KQED_CrisisPregnancyCenter_11042022_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/011_KQED_CrisisPregnancyCenter_11042022_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Two women speak outside of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Napa on Nov. 4, 2022, about the dangers of abortion and birth control. She distributes pamphlets and refers people to the Napa Women’s Center, a facility next door opened by faith-based non-profit Napa Valley Culture of LIfe. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This reasoning harkened to earlier failed attempts, including in 2017 when Democrats killed another bill to change the state’s child marriage laws over similar reasons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then-Sen. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/people/66\">Jerry Hill\u003c/a> said he sought an outright ban on the practice after he learned of a 13-year-old girl in his district who was engaged to a 38-year-old man from another country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I thought, ‘Who could oppose that? Who could say that it was wrong?’” Hill said of the bill he introduced to ban child marriage. But he was left perplexed that what he thought was a commonsense policy proposal evolved into a larger debate about cultural differences, childhood freedom and bodily autonomy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In some cultures it’s acceptable for girls to be wedded to older men or be placed into arranged marriages, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-protection/child-marriage/#status\">United Nations report\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawmakers in recent years have proposed measures to clamp down on forced marriages, which are already a crime. Kalra is among them, this year authoring \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab2534\">Assembly Bill 2534\u003c/a> which would allow victims to file a restraining order against anyone coercing them into a marriage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kalra and women’s rights groups say it would be the first policy of its kind in the country if enacted into law. Planned Parenthood supports it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12041588\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12041588\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1331\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy-800x532.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy-160x106.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/080822-LA-Planned-Parenthood-RN-CM-05-copy-1920x1278.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Planned Parenthood-East Los Angeles Health Center in East Los Angeles on Aug. 8th, 2022. \u003ccite>(Raquel Natalicchio for CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On the 2017 child marriage legislation, the ACLU and Planned Parenthood were staunch opponents, and then-Assemblymember \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/people/53\">Lorena Gonzalez\u003c/a>, a Democratic labor leader who chaired the Assembly Appropriations Committee at the time, told Hill she wouldn’t let a ban move forward unless it was amended to lower the minimum age to 16- or 17-year-olds instead of 18.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That bill was eventually weakened to become current law: Any young person can get married if a parent and the courts sign off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hill said his attempt and others were killed by special interest groups.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re so powerful, these interest groups in Sacramento. They have a lot of say and sway over what comes out of the Legislature,” said Hill, who represented Silicon Valley for 12 years. “Politics trumps policy about 80% of the time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gonzalez recalled it differently. While it’s true she refused to let an outright ban pass, she said, she doesn’t remember Planned Parenthood opposing the bill or considering it in her decision-making.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said when older teenage girls in her district got pregnant, it was common for some Latino families to encourage them to marry the father if he was the same or of similar age.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I had girls where they were telling me this is the best choice,” Gonzalez told CalMatters. She said the difference in age between partners seemed to matter more than the marriage itself. “At the time, it seemed very classist” to impose an outright ban, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘At least we’re here now’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>President Donald Trump’s push to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2025/07/planned-parenthood-california-defunded/\">defund Planned Parenthood\u003c/a> clinics put more political pressure on the group than usual in recent years and made the organization more reliant on state funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Things were made worse last November, when a \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/01/opinion/child-marriage-us.html?unlocked_article_code=1.x08.m5zB.NnTZyMPzpl2G&smid=url-share\">New York Times opinion\u003c/a> piece criticized the ACLU and Planned Parenthood for their roles in blocking legislation against child marriage while Republican-controlled states such as Arkansas and Louisiana imposed tighter restrictions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For survivor and advocate Sara Tasneem, California’s failure to act for several decades allowed her to be forcibly married at 15 to a 28-year-old man by her father, who she said was part of a Northern California “Sufi cult” that orchestrated it. When her father learned Tasneem was dating a high school classmate, he found someone for her to marry, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11312440\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11312440\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/02/IMG_5616-e1486854590713.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eva Muntean, right, protests in front of the Planned Parenthood clinic in San Francisco as part of a nationwide effort to get the federal government to cut off funding to the program. \u003ccite>(April Dembosky/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I was handed over to this complete stranger who I just met,” she said. She dropped out of school and was repeatedly raped, feeling trapped and unable to leave before she turned 18 because she couldn’t hire an attorney as a minor. 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