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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 20, episode 12, airs Thursday, November 20, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our culinary journey kicks off in San Francisco’s Lower Nob Hill, where \u003cstrong>DACHA\u003c/strong> pairs Eastern European dishes with California flair in a sleek, modern setting. Named for the Russian word for “summer home,” Chef Katya Skye’s restaurant draws on her heritage, offering comfort dishes like syrniki brulee and sweet or savory blinchiki, alongside an elaborate mixology program. Across the Bay in downtown Berkeley, \u003cstrong>Pizzeria da Laura\u003c/strong> serves up something for every pizza lover — from New York to Detroit, Sicilian to grandma style. Chef Laura Meyer, a three-time World Pizza Champion and the first woman and first American to win Italy’s teglia category, brings her expertise to pies ranging from the Ray J to La Regina. Lastly, in Petaluma, \u003cstrong>Brigitte Bistro\u003c/strong> channels the flavors of Southern France through Chef Nick Ronan’s childhood memories. Named for his mother, this lively North Bay spot showcases French classics like soupe à l’oignon, steak tartare, and île flottante, all infused with a spirit of love and joie de vivre.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23659\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1280px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23659 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Guests.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Guests.png 1280w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Guests-160x90.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Guests-768x432.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Candace Hynson, Rob Everett and Nala Kun from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.dachaprojects.com/\">\u003cstrong>DACHA Kitchen & Bar\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.pizzeriadalaura.com/\">\u003cstrong>Pizzeria da Laura\u003c/strong> (Berkeley)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.brigittebistropetaluma.com/\">\u003cstrong>Brigitte Bistro \u003c/strong>(Petaluma)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23660\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-2000x2470.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"2470\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-2000x2470.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-160x198.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-768x948.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-1244x1536.jpg 1244w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-1658x2048.jpg 1658w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"https://www.dallaterra.com/tech-sheet/adami-bosco-di-gica-brut-valdobbiadene-docg-prosecco-superiore\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Adami “Bosco di Gica” Brut Prosecco Superiore\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>Valdobbiadene DOCG, Italy $22\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>I am an unabashed fan of top-quality Prosecco, including this classic bottling. Founded in 1920 by the Adami family, the winery sets a high bar for bubbles hailing from famous Valdobbiadene vineyards in northern Italy’s hilly Veneto region. This tongue-twisting name refers to a town that is part of the larger Conegliano Valdobbiadene Prosecco DOCG, which designates it as among the best. The Bosco di Gica name refers to a historical forest where the family’s vineyards are planted today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The primary grape used is white Glera, though this sparkler has a dollop of Chardonnay. It’s aromatic, juicy and vibrant. With a creamy, softer mousse (the bubbles part), it’s the ideal option for a brunch wine pairing with egg casserole, ham, quiche and fruit, but my favorite is alongside sushi at dinner time. With the Adami’s affordable price tag, you’ll want to stock up on this winning wine. It’s an Italian treasure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sadlerswellwine.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Sadler’s Well 2024 Chardonnay\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>Monterey County, California $35\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>Chardonnay grown in cool-climate Monterey County, running along the central California coast, expresses a distinct character. This refreshing and complex white embodies the area with its dash of class. Ripe melon and pear aromas and flavors are what titillate your palate, but it’s the crisp minerality that sets it apart from other fruit-forward Chardonnays. Well balanced and delicious, it’s a wine to try with flavorful fish dishes, chicken or pork in mustard-based sauces, or creamy cheeses like Brie and Camembert.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"https://www.calerawine.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Calera 2021 “Muns Vineyard” Pinot Noir\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>Santa Cruz Mountains, California $59\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>When it comes to California Pinot Noir, one of the icons is Calera. In 1975, founder Josh Jensen discovered a streak of limestone soils running through the Gabilan Mountains of California’s Central Coast. Jensen was a French Burgundy lover, and he knew these similarly unique soils and climate would be a perfect place to grow Pinot Noir. He quietly began crafting some of the state’s best pinot noir, which grew over the years to the status of vying with the best in the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their Muns Vineyard bottling is compelling because it hails from another rugged, high-altitude place in the nearby Santa Cruz Mountains. The vineyard is in eyesight of Monterey Bay, and the Pinot produced there expresses cool-climate elegance and intensity in the bottle. Swirl and smell the wine. Aromas of wild strawberry, cherry and red fruits jump from the glass. When you taste it, the fruit notes become even more intense, followed by long-lasting flavors of tea leaves and a hint of spice wrapped in a silky texture. It’s a red to enjoy now with beef bourguignon and grilled salmon, or simply sip it fireside and savor the flavor.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"209\" data-end=\"221\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Eastern European brunch in San Francisco.\u003cbr data-start=\"263\" data-end=\"266\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"266\" data-end=\"277\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> There are so many options.\u003cbr data-start=\"304\" data-end=\"307\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"307\" data-end=\"319\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mix-and-match pies by a world pizza champion in Berkeley.\u003cbr data-start=\"377\" data-end=\"380\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"380\" data-end=\"392\">Everett:\u003c/strong> You could feed a fraternity with this pizza.\u003cbr data-start=\"437\" data-end=\"440\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"440\" data-end=\"452\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And French favorites in Petaluma.\u003cbr data-start=\"486\" data-end=\"489\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"489\" data-end=\"497\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I lost my virginity with onion soup.\u003cbr data-start=\"534\" data-end=\"537\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"537\" data-end=\"549\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Just ahead on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” I love Blinchikis.\u003cbr data-start=\"609\" data-end=\"612\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"612\" data-end=\"620\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Blinchiki.\u003cbr data-start=\"631\" data-end=\"634\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"634\" data-end=\"646\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] [Indistinct conversations] ♪♪ Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to “Check, Please! Bay Area,” the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now we have three guests and each one recommends one of their favorite spots. And the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the “Check, Please!” table today are stylist Candace Hynson, artist Nala Kun, and retired teacher Rob Everett. Welcome, everyone. Are you ready to have a good time?\u003cbr data-start=\"1148\" data-end=\"1151\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1151\" data-end=\"1159\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Thank you for having us.\u003cbr data-start=\"1184\" data-end=\"1187\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1187\" data-end=\"1198\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003cbr data-start=\"1203\" data-end=\"1206\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1206\" data-end=\"1218\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Nala gets things started with her go-to brunch spot. Offering traditional Eastern European dishes in a modern, welcoming space, it brings back childhood memories every time she visits. Located in San Francisco’s Lower Nob Hill, it’s DACHA Kitchen & Bar.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"72\" data-end=\"80\">Man:\u003c/strong> How are you doing?\u003cbr data-start=\"99\" data-end=\"102\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"102\" data-end=\"112\">Katya:\u003c/strong> Great to see you.\u003cbr data-start=\"130\" data-end=\"133\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"133\" data-end=\"142\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Suki:\u003c/strong> “DACHA” means summer home in Eastern European countries. And it’s a place where families gather. They create fresh food together, and they create memories together. [Indistinct chatter] We like to think that when you step through DACHA’s doors, that you are leaving the world behind and you’re coming into a place of peace, of coziness, of love.\u003cbr data-start=\"488\" data-end=\"491\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"491\" data-end=\"501\">Katya:\u003c/strong> Empathy and kindness.\u003cbr data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"526\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"526\" data-end=\"535\">Suki:\u003c/strong> Yes. ♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"543\" data-end=\"546\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"546\" data-end=\"556\">Katya:\u003c/strong> I am from outside of the polar circle in Russia. The name of the place is Vorkuta. So very small town.\u003cbr data-start=\"659\" data-end=\"662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"662\" data-end=\"671\">Suki:\u003c/strong> And I am from the East Coast, from Maryland originally, but I’ve been in the Bay Area for almost 25 years. It’s such an interesting part of the world and cuisine that I did not know about before I met Katya.\u003cbr data-start=\"879\" data-end=\"882\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"882\" data-end=\"892\">Katya:\u003c/strong> We get inspiration from many countries of Eastern Europe. Usually in northern parts, it’s heavy. It’s a lot of meat. It’s a lot of potatoes to keep you warm. But of course, we use everything that California gives us. So what we are doing here, we are bringing a healthier version of Eastern European cuisine.\u003cbr data-start=\"1201\" data-end=\"1204\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1204\" data-end=\"1213\">Suki:\u003c/strong> We also really encourage family-style eating. When I see people sharing off of each other’s plates, I love that. [Indistinct chatter] [Mixer rattling]\u003cbr data-start=\"1364\" data-end=\"1367\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1367\" data-end=\"1377\">Katya:\u003c/strong> The bar program, I always felt very comfortable in the high-end mixology, so we wanted to build a pretty extensive menu. And of course it’s inspired with many Eastern European ingredients like Halva daiquiri.\u003cbr data-start=\"1586\" data-end=\"1589\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1589\" data-end=\"1598\">Suki:\u003c/strong> We also have a lot of spirit-free cocktails. We want everybody to find something delicious. When someone walks into DACHA, I want them to feel like they’ve come home, even if they’ve never been through our doors. And it’s set up in several different zones. There’s the forest room, there’s the meadow, there’s the living room, there’s the tea room, so that you can kind of choose your adventure of where you want to sit. We kind of joke that we got into this project so that we could spend more time together, and it’s like 24 hours a day, pretty much.\u003cbr data-start=\"2151\" data-end=\"2154\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2154\" data-end=\"2164\">Katya:\u003c/strong> And it’s still not enough. [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"2200\" data-end=\"2203\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2203\" data-end=\"2212\">Suki:\u003c/strong> So we love being here and love being together. We’re very lucky.\u003cbr data-start=\"2277\" data-end=\"2280\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2280\" data-end=\"2290\">Katya:\u003c/strong> Nice to see you!\u003cbr data-start=\"2307\" data-end=\"2310\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2310\" data-end=\"2319\">Suki:\u003c/strong> Hello!\u003cbr data-start=\"2326\" data-end=\"2329\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"2341\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Nala, it’s not easy to find an Eastern European restaurant in the Bay Area, is it?\u003cbr data-start=\"2429\" data-end=\"2432\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2432\" data-end=\"2440\">Kun:\u003c/strong> That’s for sure. Yeah, especially if you’re a foodie and picky. And if you’re looking for aesthetically attractive food and atmosphere. It’s not easy to find.\u003cbr data-start=\"2599\" data-end=\"2602\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2602\" data-end=\"2614\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But you have found one, haven’t you?\u003cbr data-start=\"2651\" data-end=\"2654\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2654\" data-end=\"2662\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I have, yes. I’ve been lucky. I do art walks in San Francisco, and I love to end it up with my guest at DACHA.\u003cbr data-start=\"2773\" data-end=\"2776\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2776\" data-end=\"2788\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You go for brunch typically?\u003cbr data-start=\"2817\" data-end=\"2820\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2820\" data-end=\"2828\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I do love brunches.\u003cbr data-start=\"2848\" data-end=\"2851\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2851\" data-end=\"2863\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003cbr data-start=\"2871\" data-end=\"2874\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2874\" data-end=\"2882\">Kun:\u003c/strong> So usually I crave Syrniki. It’s a love affair between pancakes and cheesecake, but it’s made with cottage cheese, so it’s full of protein and it’s good for your health.\u003cbr data-start=\"3052\" data-end=\"3055\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3066\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3072\" data-end=\"3075\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3075\" data-end=\"3083\">Kun:\u003c/strong> But she put a little bit of sugar on top and burned it. So they call it Syrniki Brulée. And they do raspberry jam, homemade, served with the sour cream. So it’s a good beautiful combination inside your mouth.\u003cbr data-start=\"3292\" data-end=\"3295\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3307\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have that?\u003cbr data-start=\"3326\" data-end=\"3329\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3329\" data-end=\"3341\">Everett:\u003c/strong> That was my favorite dish at DACHA. I like to call it brunch dessert.\u003cbr data-start=\"3411\" data-end=\"3414\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3414\" data-end=\"3426\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"3435\" data-end=\"3438\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3438\" data-end=\"3446\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"3451\" data-end=\"3454\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3454\" data-end=\"3466\">Everett:\u003c/strong> It has just enough brulée on the top to be interesting—\u003cbr data-start=\"3522\" data-end=\"3525\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3525\" data-end=\"3537\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> To be a little bit sweet.\u003cbr data-start=\"3563\" data-end=\"3566\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3566\" data-end=\"3578\">Everett:\u003c/strong> To be a little bit sweet. And it was just perfect. I really wanted to take some home.\u003cbr data-start=\"3664\" data-end=\"3667\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3667\" data-end=\"3678\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"3687\" data-end=\"3690\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3690\" data-end=\"3702\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But there was none left. Ah!\u003cbr data-start=\"3731\" data-end=\"3734\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3734\" data-end=\"3746\">Everett:\u003c/strong> There was none left.\u003cbr data-start=\"3767\" data-end=\"3770\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3770\" data-end=\"3781\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> There was none left.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"68\" data-end=\"80\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And, Candace, did you have that dish as well?\u003cbr data-start=\"126\" data-end=\"129\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"129\" data-end=\"140\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I feel like third here. That was my favorite at DACHA. And also I brought my 11-month-old son with me and that was his favorite.\u003cbr data-start=\"275\" data-end=\"278\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"278\" data-end=\"290\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Of course.\u003cbr data-start=\"301\" data-end=\"304\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"304\" data-end=\"315\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> He also loved it.\u003cbr data-start=\"333\" data-end=\"336\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"348\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what other things should people look for on the brunch menu?\u003cbr data-start=\"413\" data-end=\"416\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"416\" data-end=\"424\">Kun:\u003c/strong> As an Eastern European person, we do love blini, which is crepes, which is thin pancakes, right? And I love it with chicken and eggs. And the crepes are so thin and beautifully rolled. And they have a little bit of microgreens on top. So typically on a plate it’s two blinchikis and you can share it with your loved ones.\u003cbr data-start=\"746\" data-end=\"749\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"749\" data-end=\"761\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I love Blinchikis.\u003cbr data-start=\"780\" data-end=\"783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"783\" data-end=\"791\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Blinchiki.\u003cbr data-start=\"802\" data-end=\"805\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"805\" data-end=\"817\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] Blinchikis.\u003cbr data-start=\"838\" data-end=\"841\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"841\" data-end=\"853\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Did you have it with the salmon ever? The salmon is fabulous.\u003cbr data-start=\"915\" data-end=\"918\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"918\" data-end=\"929\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Ooh.\u003cbr data-start=\"934\" data-end=\"937\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"937\" data-end=\"945\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"950\" data-end=\"953\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"953\" data-end=\"965\">Everett:\u003c/strong> It’s a savory crepe with the freshest salmon I think I’ve had in ages. And a little bit of the sour cream. And you just put it together and it’s delightful.\u003cbr data-start=\"1122\" data-end=\"1125\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1125\" data-end=\"1136\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Nice. I got the crepes. But I did the sweet. I did the condensed milk. Which was perfect as well. It was so yummy.\u003cbr data-start=\"1251\" data-end=\"1254\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1254\" data-end=\"1266\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So you’re going sweet on sweet.\u003cbr data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1301\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1301\" data-end=\"1312\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> I know. And they brought it towards the end after we had our other dishes. So it was the perfect way to end our brunch.\u003cbr data-start=\"1432\" data-end=\"1435\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1435\" data-end=\"1443\">Kun:\u003c/strong> What other dishes you had?\u003cbr data-start=\"1470\" data-end=\"1473\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1473\" data-end=\"1484\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> So we started with the Latkes, the potato pancakes, with the little bit of caviar and sour cream. That— I said that the Syrniki was my favorite, but that actually might be my favorite. That was perfect. Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1693\" data-end=\"1696\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1696\" data-end=\"1708\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did your baby under a year old like the caviar?\u003cbr data-start=\"1760\" data-end=\"1763\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1763\" data-end=\"1774\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> I did not. I was greedy. I didn’t give him any of that. That I kept all for myself.\u003cbr data-start=\"1858\" data-end=\"1861\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1861\" data-end=\"1869\">Kun:\u003c/strong> As a Siberian, we eat red caviar pretty much every day, because it’s essential, you know. It’s omega-3.\u003cbr data-start=\"1973\" data-end=\"1976\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1976\" data-end=\"1987\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Ooh. Ooh!\u003cbr data-start=\"1997\" data-end=\"2000\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2000\" data-end=\"2008\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Yeah, it’s like typical dish for morning.\u003cbr data-start=\"2050\" data-end=\"2053\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2053\" data-end=\"2064\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"2070\" data-end=\"2073\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2073\" data-end=\"2081\">Kun:\u003c/strong> For whole family.\u003cbr data-start=\"2099\" data-end=\"2102\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2102\" data-end=\"2114\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Is this something you would make at home?\u003cbr data-start=\"2156\" data-end=\"2159\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2167\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Yes, all the time.\u003cbr data-start=\"2186\" data-end=\"2189\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2189\" data-end=\"2201\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What’s your address? Because we’ll be there.\u003cbr data-start=\"2246\" data-end=\"2249\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2249\" data-end=\"2261\">Everett:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"2270\" data-end=\"2273\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2273\" data-end=\"2281\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I live next to SFMoMA. But the thing is, sometimes you get lazy. You want to dress up, you want to go to places that someone takes care of you.\u003cbr data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2428\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2428\" data-end=\"2439\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"2445\" data-end=\"2448\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2448\" data-end=\"2460\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Of course.\u003cbr data-start=\"2471\" data-end=\"2474\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2474\" data-end=\"2482\">Kun:\u003c/strong> DACHA is place where they hug you. They meet you with your name. They’re like, “Nala, would you like your regular?” And I’m like, “Oh, yes.”\u003cbr data-start=\"2623\" data-end=\"2626\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2626\" data-end=\"2638\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you— Did you feel that level of service?\u003cbr data-start=\"2687\" data-end=\"2690\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2690\" data-end=\"2702\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. First of all, the bartender’s considered one of the best mixologists in San Francisco. And he created a Bloody Mary for me. He started by infusing cherry wood smoke into the glass. It was quite a show. And the Bloody Mary was delicious. He made a special spritz for my wife, and her favorite dish was the Mama’s eggs.\u003cbr data-start=\"3032\" data-end=\"3035\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3047\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Shakshuka style.\u003cbr data-start=\"3064\" data-end=\"3067\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3067\" data-end=\"3079\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Shakshuka in the red spicy sauce. Just the right amount of spice. The eggs were not overcooked at all, and it was a beautiful presentation.\u003cbr data-start=\"3219\" data-end=\"3222\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3222\" data-end=\"3234\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright.\u003cbr data-start=\"3243\" data-end=\"3246\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3246\" data-end=\"3258\">Everett:\u003c/strong> And then we ended up with Piroshki.\u003cbr data-start=\"3294\" data-end=\"3297\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3297\" data-end=\"3309\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"3318\" data-end=\"3321\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3321\" data-end=\"3329\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I love Piroshki!\u003cbr data-start=\"3346\" data-end=\"3349\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3349\" data-end=\"3361\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Talk about the Piroshki.\u003cbr data-start=\"3386\" data-end=\"3389\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3389\" data-end=\"3397\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Piroshki— to be honest, I went to every Eastern European place in San Francisco to try Piroshki. DACHA’s— oh my God, ten out of ten. The dough is so thin and the filling, a lot of meat, juicy. So it’s crunchy outside because it’s baked.\u003cbr data-start=\"3634\" data-end=\"3637\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3637\" data-end=\"3648\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Fried, yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3661\" data-end=\"3664\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3664\" data-end=\"3672\">Kun:\u003c/strong> It’s not like fried. With black tea, hot black tea. Oh my God. It’s like, literally, time machine brought me back to my home kitchen. I’m like— feel hugged with my mom. It’s like amazing.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"77\" data-end=\"89\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, you were reacting, Candace, to that dish too. Tell us about it.\u003cbr data-start=\"159\" data-end=\"162\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"162\" data-end=\"173\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I was gonna say that was my son’s favorite. I was like, “Oh!” because, you know. I’m like, “Oh, this is like a good size.” Like, I’ll have a little bit. And he, like, knocked the whole thing out. I managed to get a little bit of it, but yeah, that was probably his favorite.\u003cbr data-start=\"454\" data-end=\"457\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"457\" data-end=\"469\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you have anything to imbibe alongside?\u003cbr data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"519\" data-is-only-node=\"\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"519\" data-end=\"530\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes. So the Halva Daiquiri, which is a really good kind of sweet and savory— not too sweet— but it did almost taste like a rum punch, so it was really nice for brunch cocktail. And then I also had the coffee.\u003cbr data-start=\"739\" data-end=\"742\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"742\" data-end=\"754\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what about affordability? This is not an inexpensive spot.\u003cbr data-start=\"817\" data-end=\"820\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"820\" data-end=\"832\">Everett:\u003c/strong> No, it’s not, but in this day and age, it’s right in line with any good brunch spot. And certainly it’s worth going to. The quality, the service, the atmosphere— the walls are painted with beautiful gallery-style artwork. I’m sure you appreciated that. We can’t wait to go back again.\u003cbr data-start=\"1117\" data-end=\"1120\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1120\" data-end=\"1132\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Aww, that’s wonderful. Alright. If you would like to try DACHA Kitchen & Bar, it’s located on Sutter Street in San Francisco’s Lower Nob Hill, and the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $85. When it comes to pizza, hm, whether it’s New York versus Detroit, deep dish or thin crust, red or white sauce, there’s no end to the debate over which pie style ranks supreme. Luckily, Candace has found a place where all pizza lovers can find common ground, thanks to a menu brimming with options. Located in downtown Berkeley, it’s Pizzeria da Laura. ♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"1704\" data-end=\"1707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1707\" data-end=\"1717\">Meyer:\u003c/strong> My love for pizza is vast. We always finish with some Parmigiano-Reggiano. I think the secret to pizza— everyone loves to say, oh, it’s the water, oh, it’s the flour, but honestly, it’s the know-how. So this is just, like, the beginning of the melting process, because you can see the fat coming out of it. It is never just any one ingredient, but it’s the compilation of all of the things. I love a good whole milk mozzarella. But sometimes a part skim is great depending on the cooking process. Pizza was my first job as a 16-year-old kid, and from day one I worked with Tony Gemignani, who ended up being my mentor for 18 years. I travel a lot for pizza. You’ve got competitions in which I’m a three-time world champ, so I’ve actually won twice in Italy and one here in the United States. And I was the first American and the first female to win the Pan style competition. ♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"2596\" data-end=\"2599\">Most pizzerias, it’s kind of a one-option deal. You got one crust and then the topping combinations. But I wanted to be able to give people options. I would say the style of pizza that I offer are my take on tradition. We do a classic New York, which is going to be that standard round pie, super thin in the middle with a pronounced crust around the edge, and then we go as large as a Sicilian, which is a half sheet pan, but it’s on a focaccia-like crust. And then it comes down to a Detroit, a little bit smaller, but way more robust because it has a caramelized cheese crust around the entire perimeter. It’s going to be a lot more rich, a lot more indulgent, just kind of like a flavor bomb. Then we go down to the grandma, which is going to be the thinnest of the pan pizzas. Some of the East Coasters might balk at my grandma because it’s a little bit different. ♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"3471\" data-end=\"3474\">I hope when people eat here that they feel the sense of community. The neighborhood itself is the theater district. You’ve got UC Berkeley literally a block away, as well as the high school campus two blocks away. So there’s a constant evolution of young people, but at the same time, we get a lot of the older generation as well. So I love the fact that Pizzeria da Laura serves everyone.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"3867\" data-end=\"3879\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Candace. I mean, I guess this place has so many different styles. Are you team thin crust, team thick crust? Where do you go? What do you order?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"68\" data-end=\"79\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> It’s hard to choose because there are so many options. But I love the Ray J pizza. My first trip there, it was what the waitress recommended. And ever since I’ve been going back, I always get it. Sicilian style. It’s kind of like a really light, deep-dish crust, not too dense, perfect kind of complement to everything that’s going on top of the pizza, amazing Burrata cheese, pepperoni…\u003cbr data-start=\"467\" data-end=\"470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"470\" data-end=\"482\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Two kinds of pepperoni.\u003cbr data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"509\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"509\" data-end=\"520\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Two kinds of pepperoni, a little bit of garlic, fermented honey. So there’s like this sweetness that comes in. I think they finish it off with a little bit of chili oil as well. So it’s kind of the perfect blend for me. Everything I want in a pizza.\u003cbr data-start=\"770\" data-end=\"773\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"773\" data-end=\"785\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And I love Grandma pizza.\u003cbr data-start=\"811\" data-end=\"814\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"814\" data-end=\"825\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah, Grandma’s, which is what I got the last time I went. We did two, and I had not had the grandma’s style before. And it was great. It was with a vegetarian-based pizza, so lots of really good roasted veggies. They finished it with this really gorgeous pesto sauce. And that was— I’m like, I’m going to need to bring this into my rotation of pizza here.\u003cbr data-start=\"1188\" data-end=\"1191\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1191\" data-end=\"1203\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Because you can choose from already sort of set menu pizzas.\u003cbr data-start=\"1264\" data-end=\"1267\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1267\" data-end=\"1278\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Exactly, exactly.\u003cbr data-start=\"1296\" data-end=\"1299\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1299\" data-end=\"1311\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What did you have?\u003cbr data-start=\"1330\" data-end=\"1333\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1333\" data-end=\"1345\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Well, we started with some appetizers.\u003cbr data-start=\"1384\" data-end=\"1387\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1387\" data-end=\"1399\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And they do have a large list of those.\u003cbr data-start=\"1439\" data-end=\"1442\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1442\" data-end=\"1454\">Everett:\u003c/strong> They sure do. And we had the meatballs served in a red sauce, which was a nice spicy red sauce. They brought the meatballs to us in a bowl. And I thought, “That’s just a bowl of red sauce.”\u003cbr data-start=\"1644\" data-end=\"1647\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1647\" data-end=\"1658\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"1667\" data-end=\"1670\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1670\" data-end=\"1682\">Everett:\u003c/strong> They’re down inside. You have to spoon them out.\u003cbr data-start=\"1731\" data-end=\"1734\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1745\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"1750\" data-end=\"1753\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1753\" data-end=\"1765\">Everett:\u003c/strong> And I did find the meatballs a little bit dense for my taste. The Arancini, on the other hand, was perfect. We went with an Italian friend. He said they were the best he’d had.\u003cbr data-start=\"1942\" data-end=\"1945\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1945\" data-end=\"1956\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Ooh.\u003cbr data-start=\"1961\" data-end=\"1964\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1964\" data-end=\"1976\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Isn’t that amazing? Arancini is just those little Sicilian rice balls.\u003cbr data-start=\"2047\" data-end=\"2050\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2050\" data-end=\"2062\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Yeah, fried rice balls, but creamy in the center. And served on the red sauce with a dusting of cheese. It was absolutely fabulous.\u003cbr data-start=\"2194\" data-end=\"2197\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2197\" data-end=\"2209\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So even if you’re not a pizza lover, there’s something.\u003cbr data-start=\"2265\" data-end=\"2268\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2268\" data-end=\"2280\">Everett:\u003c/strong> There’s something for you in there.\u003cbr data-start=\"2316\" data-end=\"2319\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2319\" data-end=\"2327\">Kun:\u003c/strong> So I have to confess. I’m not a big fan of pizza.\u003cbr data-start=\"2377\" data-end=\"2380\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2380\" data-end=\"2392\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003cbr data-start=\"2396\" data-end=\"2399\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2399\" data-end=\"2407\">Kun:\u003c/strong> So I went to this place, which was lovely. Downtown Berkeley. Nice weather, beautiful patio, beautiful place. And I’m like, “Okay, I haven’t had pizza for two years. Now I want to try something.” But before that, I need to eat a salad to make a pillow before—\u003cbr data-start=\"2667\" data-end=\"2670\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2670\" data-end=\"2678\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"2686\" data-end=\"2689\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2689\" data-end=\"2697\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Before gluten, you know? So I ordered Arugula salad, which was fresh. It’s so generous, the amount of salad for two or three people—\u003cbr data-start=\"2830\" data-end=\"2833\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2833\" data-end=\"2845\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So you had a big pillow?\u003cbr data-start=\"2870\" data-end=\"2873\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2873\" data-end=\"2881\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"2887\" data-end=\"2890\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2890\" data-end=\"2902\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Like a layer there.\u003cbr data-start=\"2922\" data-end=\"2925\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2925\" data-end=\"2936\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"2945\" data-end=\"2948\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2948\" data-end=\"2956\">Kun:\u003c/strong> With generous amount of Parmigiano-Reggiano. I loved the salad.\u003cbr data-start=\"3020\" data-end=\"3023\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3023\" data-end=\"3034\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3040\" data-end=\"3043\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3051\">Kun:\u003c/strong> And the pizza. I went to New York Style Ray J.\u003cbr data-start=\"3098\" data-end=\"3101\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3101\" data-end=\"3112\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3118\" data-end=\"3121\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3121\" data-end=\"3129\">Kun:\u003c/strong> It was nice hint of honey and smoke.\u003cbr data-start=\"3166\" data-end=\"3169\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3169\" data-end=\"3180\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3186\" data-end=\"3189\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3189\" data-end=\"3197\">Kun:\u003c/strong> It was juicy. It was beautifully plated. Very artistic. Cheese was a little bit chewy for me, but overall, one-slice pizza is enough.\u003cbr data-start=\"3331\" data-end=\"3334\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3334\" data-end=\"3345\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3351\" data-end=\"3354\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3354\" data-end=\"3362\">Kun:\u003c/strong> And now I’m like, “Okay. Another two years.”\u003cbr data-start=\"3407\" data-end=\"3410\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3410\" data-end=\"3421\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3427\" data-end=\"3430\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3438\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"3446\" data-end=\"3449\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3449\" data-end=\"3461\">Everett:\u003c/strong> And I had the La Regina pizza. Had the red sauce. It had soppressata, Parmigiano-Reggiano. It had prosciutto. It was delightful. Loved it.\u003cbr data-start=\"3600\" data-end=\"3603\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3603\" data-end=\"3614\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"68\" data-end=\"80\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have anything else, I mean, in terms of appetizers?\u003cbr data-start=\"140\" data-end=\"143\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"143\" data-end=\"154\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes, so we did the beet and radicchio salad, a little bit of bitterness, but then also there’s like a subtle sweetness with the beet. For summer, I thought it was a perfect addition, because I don’t remember seeing that the last couple times I’ve been in, so I was happy to try that this time. It was great.\u003cbr data-start=\"462\" data-end=\"465\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"465\" data-end=\"477\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And they have vegan options.\u003cbr data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"509\" data-is-only-node=\"\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"509\" data-end=\"520\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> They do. Yeah. Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"541\" data-end=\"544\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"544\" data-end=\"556\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If anybody wants to check out vegan.\u003cbr data-start=\"593\" data-end=\"596\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"596\" data-end=\"607\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah. Exactly.\u003cbr data-start=\"622\" data-end=\"625\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"637\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And quite a nice wine and beer selection.\u003cbr data-start=\"679\" data-end=\"682\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"682\" data-end=\"693\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes. Their pours are generous. I’m, like, similar to this. I’m, like, beautiful pours.\u003cbr data-start=\"780\" data-end=\"783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"783\" data-end=\"795\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> We are generous with our pours here at “Check, Please!”\u003cbr data-start=\"851\" data-end=\"854\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"854\" data-end=\"865\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> I know, I know. Great pours. Yeah. It was a beautiful, light white. They actually recommended it for me. Perfect complement to my dishes there.\u003cbr data-start=\"1009\" data-end=\"1012\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1012\" data-end=\"1024\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright. Any desserts?\u003cbr data-start=\"1047\" data-end=\"1050\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1050\" data-end=\"1058\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Tiramisu!\u003cbr data-start=\"1068\" data-end=\"1071\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1071\" data-end=\"1082\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Tiramisu, oh, yeah!\u003cbr data-start=\"1102\" data-end=\"1105\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1105\" data-end=\"1117\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] I was waiting for that to pop to the top.\u003cbr data-start=\"1168\" data-end=\"1171\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1171\" data-end=\"1182\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Uh-huh.\u003cbr data-start=\"1190\" data-end=\"1193\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1193\" data-end=\"1205\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, take it away.\u003cbr data-start=\"1228\" data-end=\"1231\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1231\" data-end=\"1239\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I ordered cappuccino. It was good. Decent cappuccino, which is nice. And they brought Tiramisu in the same cup. Yes. And it was nice, layered. For my taste buds, a little too sweet. But still. It’s tiramisu. It’s supposed to be sweet, right? And a little juice on the bottom. Lovely. Lovely.\u003cbr data-start=\"1531\" data-end=\"1534\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1534\" data-end=\"1545\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> It’s my favorite. One time we went kind of later in the— like, around maybe 8:00 or 9:00, and they were out of tiramisu.\u003cbr data-start=\"1666\" data-end=\"1669\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1669\" data-end=\"1681\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What?!\u003cbr data-start=\"1688\" data-end=\"1691\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1691\" data-end=\"1702\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> So get there early. Get there early. But it’s— it’s so good. It’s— yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1775\" data-end=\"1778\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1778\" data-end=\"1790\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s a pro tip. That’s a pro tip. Get there early. [Laughs] Alright, if you would like to try Pizzeria da Laura, it’s located on Shattuck Avenue in Berkeley. And the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $40. As a former culinary instructor, Rob has a huge appreciation for timeless French classics executed with precision and care. He finds them at a cozy bistro, offering crusty baguettes, buttery sauces and just the right touch of that certain je ne sais quoi. Located in Petaluma, it’s Brigitte Bistro. ♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"2326\" data-end=\"2329\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"2339\">Ronan:\u003c/strong> The Bistro, I see it as very casual, yet extremely well executed. Fresh products, traditional French cuisine… Mussels and fries. …very lively… I love it! …noisy… [Howls] Full of life. Full of life. Et voilà! [Laughs] The name of the restaurant is Brigitte, which is my mother. She was definitely not a cook. She had love and passion for life. She transmitted that to me. Bon appétit. Enjoy. The menu here is from my childhood. Everything I remember as a child that brightened my day, that made me feel very, very good. Steak tartare— as a child, my mother would send me to buy some beef and half of it would be gone because I would eat, while on my way back home, raw beef. [Laughing]\u003cbr data-start=\"3024\" data-end=\"3027\">[ Lively music playing ]\u003cbr data-start=\"3051\" data-end=\"3054\">The soupe à l’oignon. I add Port wine and I add sherry vinegar. The cheese has to be Swiss cheese Gruyère.\u003cbr data-start=\"3160\" data-end=\"3163\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3163\" data-end=\"3173\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Oh, wow.\u003cbr data-start=\"3182\" data-end=\"3185\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3185\" data-end=\"3195\">Ronan:\u003c/strong> I’m crazy about cheese. And the melted cheese. I’m not being shy on my plates. So, yeah, this is my childhood.\u003cbr data-start=\"3306\" data-end=\"3309\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3309\" data-end=\"3317\">Man:\u003c/strong> A little bit of heaven.\u003cbr data-start=\"3341\" data-end=\"3344\">[ Mid-tempo piano music playing ]\u003cbr data-start=\"3377\" data-end=\"3380\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3380\" data-end=\"3390\">Ronan:\u003c/strong> We go back to the old gastronomy way where waiters were as important as the kitchen. They will do a lot of tableside. It’s a whole lot of different details that make a big difference. It makes you feel special because you are special. One phrase— it’s love, food, wine, passion, life and people. And I’m lucky to awaken every single morning feeling like that. [Cheers and applause]\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"3776\" data-end=\"3788\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Rob, this is really a touch of France in California.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"80\" data-end=\"92\">Everett:\u003c/strong> We were so happy. About a year and a half ago, this French chef who had several restaurants in San Francisco fell in love with Petaluma, came up, renovated an old café, opened up this restaurant and named it for his maman, his mom. One of the appetizers I get every time I go there is the Escargots perched on top of the roasted half marrow bone. And it’s served with a sauce of butter, garlic and parsley.\u003cbr data-start=\"499\" data-end=\"502\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"502\" data-end=\"514\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003cbr data-start=\"519\" data-end=\"522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"522\" data-end=\"534\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Everett:\u003c/strong> It was simply delicious. Luckily, they serve it with lots of local Della Fattoria bread. We told the waiter, “Please save the bones for the dogs in the neighborhood.” By the time the evening had progressed, he had brought us five additional bones from other people. It was terrific. They’re very nice there.\u003cbr data-start=\"842\" data-end=\"845\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"845\" data-end=\"857\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, are you a French food lover?\u003cbr data-start=\"891\" data-end=\"894\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"894\" data-end=\"902\">Kun:\u003c/strong> To be honest, I fell in love with French food after this bistro. Oh, my God. I lost my virginity with onion soup.\u003cbr data-start=\"1016\" data-end=\"1019\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1019\" data-end=\"1031\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"1040\" data-end=\"1043\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1043\" data-end=\"1051\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I never had it before. It came from clay pot covered with cheese. It was a nice surprise to find bread inside the soup.\u003cbr data-start=\"1171\" data-end=\"1174\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1174\" data-end=\"1185\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah, yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1203\" data-end=\"1206\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1206\" data-end=\"1214\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Everything was in harmony. And the cheese was so gooey.\u003cbr data-start=\"1270\" data-end=\"1273\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1273\" data-end=\"1284\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes! Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1295\" data-end=\"1298\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1306\">Kun:\u003c/strong> And it was so hot.\u003cbr data-start=\"1325\" data-end=\"1328\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1328\" data-end=\"1339\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1345\" data-end=\"1348\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1348\" data-end=\"1356\">Kun:\u003c/strong> As a Siberian, I appreciate hot dishes…\u003cbr data-start=\"1396\" data-end=\"1399\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1399\" data-end=\"1407\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"1415\" data-end=\"1418\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1418\" data-end=\"1426\">Kun:\u003c/strong> …and hot soups. Oh my God, almost boiling. And I loved it. I loved it.\u003cbr data-start=\"1497\" data-end=\"1500\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1500\" data-end=\"1511\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> I started with the French onion soup as well. I tried to make it at home. I never quite do it. This was phenomenal. So good, so densely flavored and it was a great start to the meal.\u003cbr data-start=\"1694\" data-end=\"1697\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1697\" data-end=\"1709\">Everett:\u003c/strong> The other appetizer that we really loved was the tableside Steak Tartare. Chopped flank steak with a quail egg in the middle, a few sliced cornichons, capers. Mixed together, it’s so delicious. And they serve it with house-made pomme gaufrettes, which are potato chips.\u003cbr data-start=\"1979\" data-end=\"1982\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1982\" data-end=\"1993\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> [Chuckles]\u003cbr data-start=\"2004\" data-end=\"2007\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2007\" data-end=\"2019\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Loved it. Loved it.\u003cbr data-start=\"2039\" data-end=\"2042\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2042\" data-end=\"2054\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Any tartare? Any takers?\u003cbr data-start=\"2079\" data-end=\"2082\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2082\" data-end=\"2093\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> No. No.\u003cbr data-start=\"2101\" data-end=\"2104\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2104\" data-end=\"2116\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> No tartare takers.\u003cbr data-start=\"2135\" data-end=\"2138\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2138\" data-end=\"2146\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I ordered salmon.\u003cbr data-start=\"2164\" data-end=\"2167\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2167\" data-end=\"2179\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, salmon tartare?\u003cbr data-start=\"2199\" data-end=\"2202\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2202\" data-end=\"2210\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Oh, my God. It was not a tartare. It was like generous amount of thin salmon and citruses on a side and croutons. So it was nice, buttery, creamy fish, crunchy croutons and citrusy fruits, which you feel like you like kissing a French young guy.\u003cbr data-start=\"2456\" data-end=\"2459\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2459\" data-end=\"2467\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"2475\" data-end=\"2478\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2478\" data-end=\"2490\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Well, okay.\u003cbr data-start=\"2502\" data-end=\"2505\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2505\" data-end=\"2517\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you feel that one?\u003cbr data-start=\"2540\" data-end=\"2543\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2543\" data-end=\"2555\">Everett:\u003c/strong> I did not.\u003cbr data-start=\"2566\" data-end=\"2569\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2569\" data-end=\"2577\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"2585\" data-end=\"2588\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2588\" data-end=\"2600\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You did not.\u003cbr data-start=\"2613\" data-end=\"2616\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2616\" data-end=\"2628\">Everett:\u003c/strong> But maybe next time.\u003cbr data-start=\"2649\" data-end=\"2652\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2652\" data-end=\"2664\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s right. You never know.\u003cbr data-start=\"2694\" data-end=\"2697\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2697\" data-end=\"2709\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Never know.\u003cbr data-start=\"2721\" data-end=\"2724\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2724\" data-end=\"2736\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. So what else did you have?\u003cbr data-start=\"2769\" data-end=\"2772\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2772\" data-end=\"2784\">Everett:\u003c/strong> I had the seared scallops. And, you know, it’s so easy to overdo scallops. These were perfectly, perfectly seared with a nice purée of leek and also purple cauliflower, which is delicious.\u003cbr data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"2976\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2976\" data-end=\"2987\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> So my husband got the scallops, which I helped myself to. Just kind of melt in your mouth. So good. And then I got the Wagyu Frites for myself. And my baby was with me, so we shared that. He loved it as well.\u003cbr data-start=\"3196\" data-end=\"3199\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3199\" data-end=\"3211\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did he love the frites?\u003cbr data-start=\"3235\" data-end=\"3238\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3238\" data-end=\"3249\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> He did love the frites, he did.\u003cbr data-start=\"3281\" data-end=\"3284\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3284\" data-end=\"3296\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You’ve got a little foodie, don’t you?\u003cbr data-start=\"3335\" data-end=\"3338\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3338\" data-end=\"3349\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> I do. I’m hoping. I’m hoping I’m raising him that way. Steak perfectly done, perfectly seasoned. It was really a delight.\u003cbr data-start=\"3471\" data-end=\"3474\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3474\" data-end=\"3486\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Another dish we had was the famed local Liberty Duck à l’Orange from local producer Jim Reichert. I taught both of his children in sixth grade. And it was served fabulously with duck fat potato mille-feuille.\u003cbr data-start=\"3695\" data-end=\"3698\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3698\" data-end=\"3710\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It means lots of layers.\u003cbr data-start=\"3735\" data-end=\"3738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3738\" data-end=\"3750\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Means a lot of layers. And any potato cooked in duck fat is just perfect.\u003cbr data-start=\"3824\" data-end=\"3827\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3839\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You could cook leather in duck fat.\u003cbr data-start=\"3875\" data-end=\"3878\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3878\" data-end=\"3890\">Everett:\u003c/strong> You could. You could.\u003cbr data-start=\"3912\" data-end=\"3915\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3915\" data-end=\"3927\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It would be good.\u003cbr data-start=\"3945\" data-end=\"3948\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3948\" data-end=\"3960\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"81\" data-end=\"93\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And so now we can get to dessert. Look at this. Look at that face! Okay. You get to start, Nala.\u003cbr data-start=\"190\" data-end=\"193\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"193\" data-end=\"201\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Floating island. Floating island. Oh, my God, it’s cloudy dessert. Soft, spongy, eggy, covered with a lot of caramel and salt popping in your mouth, and very nice roasted cashews on top. And everything floating in a lake of vanilla. Something like that. Overall, the whole texture blew my mind, to be honest.\u003cbr data-start=\"510\" data-end=\"513\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"513\" data-end=\"524\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> We ended the meal with Pistachio Tiramisu. That was my highlight. I’m like, the food was incredible, but it was like dinner and a show.\u003cbr data-start=\"660\" data-end=\"663\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"663\" data-end=\"675\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003cbr data-start=\"687\" data-end=\"690\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"690\" data-end=\"701\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> And also too, like, the aesthetic of how it looked— just perfectly in line, the ladyfingers, just the swirl of this pistachio cream.\u003cbr data-start=\"834\" data-end=\"837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"837\" data-end=\"845\">Man:\u003c/strong> Amazing, buddy.\u003cbr data-start=\"861\" data-end=\"864\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"864\" data-end=\"875\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> It was incredible.\u003cbr data-start=\"894\" data-end=\"897\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"897\" data-end=\"905\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I like the atmosphere a lot. They have open kitchen and it was spotless, so clean. And it was nice feeling that we all in the kitchen.\u003cbr data-start=\"1040\" data-end=\"1043\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1043\" data-end=\"1055\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Chef Nick was known as the Kissing Chef and the Hugging Chef. And of course as a French person does, they would kiss you twice, you know, as a welcome or a hug. Did you get a hug or a kiss?\u003cbr data-start=\"1245\" data-end=\"1248\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1248\" data-end=\"1256\">Kun:\u003c/strong> When I exit the restaurant, we had such a nice heart-to-heart hug. Oh my God.\u003cbr data-start=\"1334\" data-end=\"1337\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1337\" data-end=\"1349\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, obviously, you would go back?\u003cbr data-start=\"1384\" data-end=\"1387\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1387\" data-end=\"1399\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Absolutely go back. Take friends. Can’t wait to see Nick again. Get that hug. It’s a special spot in Petaluma.\u003cbr data-start=\"1510\" data-end=\"1513\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1513\" data-end=\"1521\">Kun:\u003c/strong> It’s worth the drive from San Francisco pretty much every weekend.\u003cbr data-start=\"1588\" data-end=\"1591\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1591\" data-end=\"1599\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"1607\" data-end=\"1610\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1610\" data-end=\"1622\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Every weekend. Alright, you heard it here. Brigitte Bistro is located on Petaluma Boulevard in Petaluma. The average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $65. Looking for more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try?\u003cbr data-start=\"1853\" data-end=\"1856\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1856\" data-end=\"1869\">Phillips:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"1878\" data-end=\"1881\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1881\" data-end=\"1893\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Check out “Cecilia Tries It” online at kqed.org/checkplease.\u003cbr data-start=\"1954\" data-end=\"1957\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1957\" data-end=\"1970\">Phillips:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"1979\" data-end=\"1982\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1982\" data-end=\"1994\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I want to thank my fantastic guests on this week’s show. Candace Hynson, who raves about the Ray J at Pizzeria da Laura in Berkeley; Nala Kun, who savors the Syrniki at DACHA Kitchen & Bar in San Francisco; and Rob Everett, who says bonjour to the roasted bone marrow at Brigitte Bistro in Petaluma. Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers.\u003cbr data-start=\"2463\" data-end=\"2466\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2466\" data-end=\"2478\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have fun?\u003cbr data-start=\"2496\" data-end=\"2499\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2499\" data-end=\"2507\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"2512\" data-end=\"2515\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2515\" data-end=\"2527\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah? Did you have fun?\u003cbr data-start=\"2551\" data-end=\"2554\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2554\" data-end=\"2566\">Everett:\u003c/strong> I did.\u003cbr data-start=\"2573\" data-end=\"2576\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2576\" data-end=\"2588\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"2597\" data-end=\"2600\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2600\" data-end=\"2610\">Meyer:\u003c/strong> This is our version of a margherita pizza. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 20, episode 12, airs Thursday, November 20, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our culinary journey kicks off in San Francisco’s Lower Nob Hill, where \u003cstrong>DACHA\u003c/strong> pairs Eastern European dishes with California flair in a sleek, modern setting. Named for the Russian word for “summer home,” Chef Katya Skye’s restaurant draws on her heritage, offering comfort dishes like syrniki brulee and sweet or savory blinchiki, alongside an elaborate mixology program. Across the Bay in downtown Berkeley, \u003cstrong>Pizzeria da Laura\u003c/strong> serves up something for every pizza lover — from New York to Detroit, Sicilian to grandma style. Chef Laura Meyer, a three-time World Pizza Champion and the first woman and first American to win Italy’s teglia category, brings her expertise to pies ranging from the Ray J to La Regina. Lastly, in Petaluma, \u003cstrong>Brigitte Bistro\u003c/strong> channels the flavors of Southern France through Chef Nick Ronan’s childhood memories. Named for his mother, this lively North Bay spot showcases French classics like soupe à l’oignon, steak tartare, and île flottante, all infused with a spirit of love and joie de vivre.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23659\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1280px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23659 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Guests.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Guests.png 1280w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Guests-160x90.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Guests-768x432.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Candace Hynson, Rob Everett and Nala Kun from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.dachaprojects.com/\">\u003cstrong>DACHA Kitchen & Bar\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.pizzeriadalaura.com/\">\u003cstrong>Pizzeria da Laura\u003c/strong> (Berkeley)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.brigittebistropetaluma.com/\">\u003cstrong>Brigitte Bistro \u003c/strong>(Petaluma)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23660\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-2000x2470.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"2470\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-2000x2470.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-160x198.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-768x948.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-1244x1536.jpg 1244w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2012_Wines-1658x2048.jpg 1658w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"209\" data-end=\"221\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Eastern European brunch in San Francisco.\u003cbr data-start=\"263\" data-end=\"266\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"266\" data-end=\"277\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> There are so many options.\u003cbr data-start=\"304\" data-end=\"307\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"307\" data-end=\"319\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mix-and-match pies by a world pizza champion in Berkeley.\u003cbr data-start=\"377\" data-end=\"380\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"380\" data-end=\"392\">Everett:\u003c/strong> You could feed a fraternity with this pizza.\u003cbr data-start=\"437\" data-end=\"440\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"440\" data-end=\"452\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And French favorites in Petaluma.\u003cbr data-start=\"486\" data-end=\"489\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"489\" data-end=\"497\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I lost my virginity with onion soup.\u003cbr data-start=\"534\" data-end=\"537\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"537\" data-end=\"549\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Just ahead on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” I love Blinchikis.\u003cbr data-start=\"609\" data-end=\"612\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"612\" data-end=\"620\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Blinchiki.\u003cbr data-start=\"631\" data-end=\"634\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"634\" data-end=\"646\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] [Indistinct conversations] ♪♪ Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to “Check, Please! Bay Area,” the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now we have three guests and each one recommends one of their favorite spots. And the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the “Check, Please!” table today are stylist Candace Hynson, artist Nala Kun, and retired teacher Rob Everett. Welcome, everyone. Are you ready to have a good time?\u003cbr data-start=\"1148\" data-end=\"1151\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1151\" data-end=\"1159\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Thank you for having us.\u003cbr data-start=\"1184\" data-end=\"1187\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1187\" data-end=\"1198\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003cbr data-start=\"1203\" data-end=\"1206\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1206\" data-end=\"1218\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Nala gets things started with her go-to brunch spot. Offering traditional Eastern European dishes in a modern, welcoming space, it brings back childhood memories every time she visits. Located in San Francisco’s Lower Nob Hill, it’s DACHA Kitchen & Bar.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"72\" data-end=\"80\">Man:\u003c/strong> How are you doing?\u003cbr data-start=\"99\" data-end=\"102\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"102\" data-end=\"112\">Katya:\u003c/strong> Great to see you.\u003cbr data-start=\"130\" data-end=\"133\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"133\" data-end=\"142\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Suki:\u003c/strong> “DACHA” means summer home in Eastern European countries. And it’s a place where families gather. They create fresh food together, and they create memories together. [Indistinct chatter] We like to think that when you step through DACHA’s doors, that you are leaving the world behind and you’re coming into a place of peace, of coziness, of love.\u003cbr data-start=\"488\" data-end=\"491\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"491\" data-end=\"501\">Katya:\u003c/strong> Empathy and kindness.\u003cbr data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"526\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"526\" data-end=\"535\">Suki:\u003c/strong> Yes. ♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"543\" data-end=\"546\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"546\" data-end=\"556\">Katya:\u003c/strong> I am from outside of the polar circle in Russia. The name of the place is Vorkuta. So very small town.\u003cbr data-start=\"659\" data-end=\"662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"662\" data-end=\"671\">Suki:\u003c/strong> And I am from the East Coast, from Maryland originally, but I’ve been in the Bay Area for almost 25 years. It’s such an interesting part of the world and cuisine that I did not know about before I met Katya.\u003cbr data-start=\"879\" data-end=\"882\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"882\" data-end=\"892\">Katya:\u003c/strong> We get inspiration from many countries of Eastern Europe. Usually in northern parts, it’s heavy. It’s a lot of meat. It’s a lot of potatoes to keep you warm. But of course, we use everything that California gives us. So what we are doing here, we are bringing a healthier version of Eastern European cuisine.\u003cbr data-start=\"1201\" data-end=\"1204\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1204\" data-end=\"1213\">Suki:\u003c/strong> We also really encourage family-style eating. When I see people sharing off of each other’s plates, I love that. [Indistinct chatter] [Mixer rattling]\u003cbr data-start=\"1364\" data-end=\"1367\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1367\" data-end=\"1377\">Katya:\u003c/strong> The bar program, I always felt very comfortable in the high-end mixology, so we wanted to build a pretty extensive menu. And of course it’s inspired with many Eastern European ingredients like Halva daiquiri.\u003cbr data-start=\"1586\" data-end=\"1589\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1589\" data-end=\"1598\">Suki:\u003c/strong> We also have a lot of spirit-free cocktails. We want everybody to find something delicious. When someone walks into DACHA, I want them to feel like they’ve come home, even if they’ve never been through our doors. And it’s set up in several different zones. There’s the forest room, there’s the meadow, there’s the living room, there’s the tea room, so that you can kind of choose your adventure of where you want to sit. We kind of joke that we got into this project so that we could spend more time together, and it’s like 24 hours a day, pretty much.\u003cbr data-start=\"2151\" data-end=\"2154\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2154\" data-end=\"2164\">Katya:\u003c/strong> And it’s still not enough. [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"2200\" data-end=\"2203\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2203\" data-end=\"2212\">Suki:\u003c/strong> So we love being here and love being together. We’re very lucky.\u003cbr data-start=\"2277\" data-end=\"2280\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2280\" data-end=\"2290\">Katya:\u003c/strong> Nice to see you!\u003cbr data-start=\"2307\" data-end=\"2310\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2310\" data-end=\"2319\">Suki:\u003c/strong> Hello!\u003cbr data-start=\"2326\" data-end=\"2329\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"2341\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Nala, it’s not easy to find an Eastern European restaurant in the Bay Area, is it?\u003cbr data-start=\"2429\" data-end=\"2432\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2432\" data-end=\"2440\">Kun:\u003c/strong> That’s for sure. Yeah, especially if you’re a foodie and picky. And if you’re looking for aesthetically attractive food and atmosphere. It’s not easy to find.\u003cbr data-start=\"2599\" data-end=\"2602\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2602\" data-end=\"2614\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But you have found one, haven’t you?\u003cbr data-start=\"2651\" data-end=\"2654\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2654\" data-end=\"2662\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I have, yes. I’ve been lucky. I do art walks in San Francisco, and I love to end it up with my guest at DACHA.\u003cbr data-start=\"2773\" data-end=\"2776\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2776\" data-end=\"2788\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You go for brunch typically?\u003cbr data-start=\"2817\" data-end=\"2820\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2820\" data-end=\"2828\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I do love brunches.\u003cbr data-start=\"2848\" data-end=\"2851\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2851\" data-end=\"2863\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003cbr data-start=\"2871\" data-end=\"2874\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2874\" data-end=\"2882\">Kun:\u003c/strong> So usually I crave Syrniki. It’s a love affair between pancakes and cheesecake, but it’s made with cottage cheese, so it’s full of protein and it’s good for your health.\u003cbr data-start=\"3052\" data-end=\"3055\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3066\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3072\" data-end=\"3075\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3075\" data-end=\"3083\">Kun:\u003c/strong> But she put a little bit of sugar on top and burned it. So they call it Syrniki Brulée. And they do raspberry jam, homemade, served with the sour cream. So it’s a good beautiful combination inside your mouth.\u003cbr data-start=\"3292\" data-end=\"3295\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3307\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have that?\u003cbr data-start=\"3326\" data-end=\"3329\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3329\" data-end=\"3341\">Everett:\u003c/strong> That was my favorite dish at DACHA. I like to call it brunch dessert.\u003cbr data-start=\"3411\" data-end=\"3414\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3414\" data-end=\"3426\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"3435\" data-end=\"3438\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3438\" data-end=\"3446\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"3451\" data-end=\"3454\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3454\" data-end=\"3466\">Everett:\u003c/strong> It has just enough brulée on the top to be interesting—\u003cbr data-start=\"3522\" data-end=\"3525\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3525\" data-end=\"3537\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> To be a little bit sweet.\u003cbr data-start=\"3563\" data-end=\"3566\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3566\" data-end=\"3578\">Everett:\u003c/strong> To be a little bit sweet. And it was just perfect. I really wanted to take some home.\u003cbr data-start=\"3664\" data-end=\"3667\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3667\" data-end=\"3678\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"3687\" data-end=\"3690\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3690\" data-end=\"3702\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But there was none left. Ah!\u003cbr data-start=\"3731\" data-end=\"3734\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3734\" data-end=\"3746\">Everett:\u003c/strong> There was none left.\u003cbr data-start=\"3767\" data-end=\"3770\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3770\" data-end=\"3781\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> There was none left.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"68\" data-end=\"80\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And, Candace, did you have that dish as well?\u003cbr data-start=\"126\" data-end=\"129\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"129\" data-end=\"140\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I feel like third here. That was my favorite at DACHA. And also I brought my 11-month-old son with me and that was his favorite.\u003cbr data-start=\"275\" data-end=\"278\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"278\" data-end=\"290\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Of course.\u003cbr data-start=\"301\" data-end=\"304\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"304\" data-end=\"315\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> He also loved it.\u003cbr data-start=\"333\" data-end=\"336\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"348\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what other things should people look for on the brunch menu?\u003cbr data-start=\"413\" data-end=\"416\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"416\" data-end=\"424\">Kun:\u003c/strong> As an Eastern European person, we do love blini, which is crepes, which is thin pancakes, right? And I love it with chicken and eggs. And the crepes are so thin and beautifully rolled. And they have a little bit of microgreens on top. So typically on a plate it’s two blinchikis and you can share it with your loved ones.\u003cbr data-start=\"746\" data-end=\"749\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"749\" data-end=\"761\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I love Blinchikis.\u003cbr data-start=\"780\" data-end=\"783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"783\" data-end=\"791\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Blinchiki.\u003cbr data-start=\"802\" data-end=\"805\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"805\" data-end=\"817\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] Blinchikis.\u003cbr data-start=\"838\" data-end=\"841\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"841\" data-end=\"853\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Did you have it with the salmon ever? 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It was so yummy.\u003cbr data-start=\"1251\" data-end=\"1254\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1254\" data-end=\"1266\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So you’re going sweet on sweet.\u003cbr data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1301\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1301\" data-end=\"1312\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> I know. And they brought it towards the end after we had our other dishes. So it was the perfect way to end our brunch.\u003cbr data-start=\"1432\" data-end=\"1435\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1435\" data-end=\"1443\">Kun:\u003c/strong> What other dishes you had?\u003cbr data-start=\"1470\" data-end=\"1473\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1473\" data-end=\"1484\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> So we started with the Latkes, the potato pancakes, with the little bit of caviar and sour cream. That— I said that the Syrniki was my favorite, but that actually might be my favorite. That was perfect. Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1693\" data-end=\"1696\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1696\" data-end=\"1708\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did your baby under a year old like the caviar?\u003cbr data-start=\"1760\" data-end=\"1763\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1763\" data-end=\"1774\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> I did not. I was greedy. I didn’t give him any of that. That I kept all for myself.\u003cbr data-start=\"1858\" data-end=\"1861\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1861\" data-end=\"1869\">Kun:\u003c/strong> As a Siberian, we eat red caviar pretty much every day, because it’s essential, you know. It’s omega-3.\u003cbr data-start=\"1973\" data-end=\"1976\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1976\" data-end=\"1987\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Ooh. Ooh!\u003cbr data-start=\"1997\" data-end=\"2000\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2000\" data-end=\"2008\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Yeah, it’s like typical dish for morning.\u003cbr data-start=\"2050\" data-end=\"2053\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2053\" data-end=\"2064\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"2070\" data-end=\"2073\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2073\" data-end=\"2081\">Kun:\u003c/strong> For whole family.\u003cbr data-start=\"2099\" data-end=\"2102\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2102\" data-end=\"2114\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Is this something you would make at home?\u003cbr data-start=\"2156\" data-end=\"2159\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2167\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Yes, all the time.\u003cbr data-start=\"2186\" data-end=\"2189\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2189\" data-end=\"2201\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What’s your address? Because we’ll be there.\u003cbr data-start=\"2246\" data-end=\"2249\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2249\" data-end=\"2261\">Everett:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"2270\" data-end=\"2273\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2273\" data-end=\"2281\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I live next to SFMoMA. But the thing is, sometimes you get lazy. You want to dress up, you want to go to places that someone takes care of you.\u003cbr data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2428\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2428\" data-end=\"2439\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"2445\" data-end=\"2448\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2448\" data-end=\"2460\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Of course.\u003cbr data-start=\"2471\" data-end=\"2474\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2474\" data-end=\"2482\">Kun:\u003c/strong> DACHA is place where they hug you. They meet you with your name. They’re like, “Nala, would you like your regular?” And I’m like, “Oh, yes.”\u003cbr data-start=\"2623\" data-end=\"2626\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2626\" data-end=\"2638\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you— Did you feel that level of service?\u003cbr data-start=\"2687\" data-end=\"2690\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2690\" data-end=\"2702\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. First of all, the bartender’s considered one of the best mixologists in San Francisco. And he created a Bloody Mary for me. He started by infusing cherry wood smoke into the glass. It was quite a show. And the Bloody Mary was delicious. He made a special spritz for my wife, and her favorite dish was the Mama’s eggs.\u003cbr data-start=\"3032\" data-end=\"3035\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3047\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Shakshuka style.\u003cbr data-start=\"3064\" data-end=\"3067\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3067\" data-end=\"3079\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Shakshuka in the red spicy sauce. Just the right amount of spice. The eggs were not overcooked at all, and it was a beautiful presentation.\u003cbr data-start=\"3219\" data-end=\"3222\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3222\" data-end=\"3234\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright.\u003cbr data-start=\"3243\" data-end=\"3246\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3246\" data-end=\"3258\">Everett:\u003c/strong> And then we ended up with Piroshki.\u003cbr data-start=\"3294\" data-end=\"3297\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3297\" data-end=\"3309\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"3318\" data-end=\"3321\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3321\" data-end=\"3329\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I love Piroshki!\u003cbr data-start=\"3346\" data-end=\"3349\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3349\" data-end=\"3361\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Talk about the Piroshki.\u003cbr data-start=\"3386\" data-end=\"3389\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3389\" data-end=\"3397\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Piroshki— to be honest, I went to every Eastern European place in San Francisco to try Piroshki. DACHA’s— oh my God, ten out of ten. The dough is so thin and the filling, a lot of meat, juicy. So it’s crunchy outside because it’s baked.\u003cbr data-start=\"3634\" data-end=\"3637\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3637\" data-end=\"3648\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Fried, yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3661\" data-end=\"3664\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3664\" data-end=\"3672\">Kun:\u003c/strong> It’s not like fried. With black tea, hot black tea. Oh my God. It’s like, literally, time machine brought me back to my home kitchen. I’m like— feel hugged with my mom. It’s like amazing.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"77\" data-end=\"89\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, you were reacting, Candace, to that dish too. Tell us about it.\u003cbr data-start=\"159\" data-end=\"162\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"162\" data-end=\"173\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I was gonna say that was my son’s favorite. I was like, “Oh!” because, you know. I’m like, “Oh, this is like a good size.” Like, I’ll have a little bit. And he, like, knocked the whole thing out. I managed to get a little bit of it, but yeah, that was probably his favorite.\u003cbr data-start=\"454\" data-end=\"457\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"457\" data-end=\"469\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you have anything to imbibe alongside?\u003cbr data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"519\" data-is-only-node=\"\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"519\" data-end=\"530\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes. So the Halva Daiquiri, which is a really good kind of sweet and savory— not too sweet— but it did almost taste like a rum punch, so it was really nice for brunch cocktail. And then I also had the coffee.\u003cbr data-start=\"739\" data-end=\"742\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"742\" data-end=\"754\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what about affordability? This is not an inexpensive spot.\u003cbr data-start=\"817\" data-end=\"820\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"820\" data-end=\"832\">Everett:\u003c/strong> No, it’s not, but in this day and age, it’s right in line with any good brunch spot. And certainly it’s worth going to. The quality, the service, the atmosphere— the walls are painted with beautiful gallery-style artwork. I’m sure you appreciated that. We can’t wait to go back again.\u003cbr data-start=\"1117\" data-end=\"1120\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1120\" data-end=\"1132\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Aww, that’s wonderful. Alright. If you would like to try DACHA Kitchen & Bar, it’s located on Sutter Street in San Francisco’s Lower Nob Hill, and the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $85. When it comes to pizza, hm, whether it’s New York versus Detroit, deep dish or thin crust, red or white sauce, there’s no end to the debate over which pie style ranks supreme. Luckily, Candace has found a place where all pizza lovers can find common ground, thanks to a menu brimming with options. Located in downtown Berkeley, it’s Pizzeria da Laura. ♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"1704\" data-end=\"1707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1707\" data-end=\"1717\">Meyer:\u003c/strong> My love for pizza is vast. We always finish with some Parmigiano-Reggiano. I think the secret to pizza— everyone loves to say, oh, it’s the water, oh, it’s the flour, but honestly, it’s the know-how. So this is just, like, the beginning of the melting process, because you can see the fat coming out of it. It is never just any one ingredient, but it’s the compilation of all of the things. I love a good whole milk mozzarella. But sometimes a part skim is great depending on the cooking process. Pizza was my first job as a 16-year-old kid, and from day one I worked with Tony Gemignani, who ended up being my mentor for 18 years. I travel a lot for pizza. You’ve got competitions in which I’m a three-time world champ, so I’ve actually won twice in Italy and one here in the United States. And I was the first American and the first female to win the Pan style competition. ♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"2596\" data-end=\"2599\">Most pizzerias, it’s kind of a one-option deal. You got one crust and then the topping combinations. But I wanted to be able to give people options. I would say the style of pizza that I offer are my take on tradition. We do a classic New York, which is going to be that standard round pie, super thin in the middle with a pronounced crust around the edge, and then we go as large as a Sicilian, which is a half sheet pan, but it’s on a focaccia-like crust. And then it comes down to a Detroit, a little bit smaller, but way more robust because it has a caramelized cheese crust around the entire perimeter. It’s going to be a lot more rich, a lot more indulgent, just kind of like a flavor bomb. Then we go down to the grandma, which is going to be the thinnest of the pan pizzas. Some of the East Coasters might balk at my grandma because it’s a little bit different. ♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"3471\" data-end=\"3474\">I hope when people eat here that they feel the sense of community. The neighborhood itself is the theater district. You’ve got UC Berkeley literally a block away, as well as the high school campus two blocks away. So there’s a constant evolution of young people, but at the same time, we get a lot of the older generation as well. So I love the fact that Pizzeria da Laura serves everyone.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"3867\" data-end=\"3879\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Candace. I mean, I guess this place has so many different styles. Are you team thin crust, team thick crust? Where do you go? What do you order?\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"68\" data-end=\"79\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> It’s hard to choose because there are so many options. But I love the Ray J pizza. My first trip there, it was what the waitress recommended. And ever since I’ve been going back, I always get it. Sicilian style. It’s kind of like a really light, deep-dish crust, not too dense, perfect kind of complement to everything that’s going on top of the pizza, amazing Burrata cheese, pepperoni…\u003cbr data-start=\"467\" data-end=\"470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"470\" data-end=\"482\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Two kinds of pepperoni.\u003cbr data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"509\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"509\" data-end=\"520\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Two kinds of pepperoni, a little bit of garlic, fermented honey. So there’s like this sweetness that comes in. I think they finish it off with a little bit of chili oil as well. So it’s kind of the perfect blend for me. Everything I want in a pizza.\u003cbr data-start=\"770\" data-end=\"773\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"773\" data-end=\"785\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And I love Grandma pizza.\u003cbr data-start=\"811\" data-end=\"814\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"814\" data-end=\"825\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah, Grandma’s, which is what I got the last time I went. We did two, and I had not had the grandma’s style before. And it was great. It was with a vegetarian-based pizza, so lots of really good roasted veggies. They finished it with this really gorgeous pesto sauce. And that was— I’m like, I’m going to need to bring this into my rotation of pizza here.\u003cbr data-start=\"1188\" data-end=\"1191\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1191\" data-end=\"1203\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Because you can choose from already sort of set menu pizzas.\u003cbr data-start=\"1264\" data-end=\"1267\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1267\" data-end=\"1278\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Exactly, exactly.\u003cbr data-start=\"1296\" data-end=\"1299\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1299\" data-end=\"1311\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What did you have?\u003cbr data-start=\"1330\" data-end=\"1333\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1333\" data-end=\"1345\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Well, we started with some appetizers.\u003cbr data-start=\"1384\" data-end=\"1387\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1387\" data-end=\"1399\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And they do have a large list of those.\u003cbr data-start=\"1439\" data-end=\"1442\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1442\" data-end=\"1454\">Everett:\u003c/strong> They sure do. And we had the meatballs served in a red sauce, which was a nice spicy red sauce. They brought the meatballs to us in a bowl. And I thought, “That’s just a bowl of red sauce.”\u003cbr data-start=\"1644\" data-end=\"1647\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1647\" data-end=\"1658\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"1667\" data-end=\"1670\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1670\" data-end=\"1682\">Everett:\u003c/strong> They’re down inside. You have to spoon them out.\u003cbr data-start=\"1731\" data-end=\"1734\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1745\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"1750\" data-end=\"1753\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1753\" data-end=\"1765\">Everett:\u003c/strong> And I did find the meatballs a little bit dense for my taste. The Arancini, on the other hand, was perfect. We went with an Italian friend. He said they were the best he’d had.\u003cbr data-start=\"1942\" data-end=\"1945\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1945\" data-end=\"1956\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Ooh.\u003cbr data-start=\"1961\" data-end=\"1964\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1964\" data-end=\"1976\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Isn’t that amazing? Arancini is just those little Sicilian rice balls.\u003cbr data-start=\"2047\" data-end=\"2050\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2050\" data-end=\"2062\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Yeah, fried rice balls, but creamy in the center. And served on the red sauce with a dusting of cheese. It was absolutely fabulous.\u003cbr data-start=\"2194\" data-end=\"2197\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2197\" data-end=\"2209\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So even if you’re not a pizza lover, there’s something.\u003cbr data-start=\"2265\" data-end=\"2268\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2268\" data-end=\"2280\">Everett:\u003c/strong> There’s something for you in there.\u003cbr data-start=\"2316\" data-end=\"2319\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2319\" data-end=\"2327\">Kun:\u003c/strong> So I have to confess. I’m not a big fan of pizza.\u003cbr data-start=\"2377\" data-end=\"2380\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2380\" data-end=\"2392\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003cbr data-start=\"2396\" data-end=\"2399\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2399\" data-end=\"2407\">Kun:\u003c/strong> So I went to this place, which was lovely. Downtown Berkeley. Nice weather, beautiful patio, beautiful place. And I’m like, “Okay, I haven’t had pizza for two years. Now I want to try something.” But before that, I need to eat a salad to make a pillow before—\u003cbr data-start=\"2667\" data-end=\"2670\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2670\" data-end=\"2678\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"2686\" data-end=\"2689\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2689\" data-end=\"2697\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Before gluten, you know? So I ordered Arugula salad, which was fresh. It’s so generous, the amount of salad for two or three people—\u003cbr data-start=\"2830\" data-end=\"2833\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2833\" data-end=\"2845\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So you had a big pillow?\u003cbr data-start=\"2870\" data-end=\"2873\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2873\" data-end=\"2881\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"2887\" data-end=\"2890\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2890\" data-end=\"2902\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Like a layer there.\u003cbr data-start=\"2922\" data-end=\"2925\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2925\" data-end=\"2936\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"2945\" data-end=\"2948\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2948\" data-end=\"2956\">Kun:\u003c/strong> With generous amount of Parmigiano-Reggiano. I loved the salad.\u003cbr data-start=\"3020\" data-end=\"3023\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3023\" data-end=\"3034\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3040\" data-end=\"3043\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3051\">Kun:\u003c/strong> And the pizza. I went to New York Style Ray J.\u003cbr data-start=\"3098\" data-end=\"3101\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3101\" data-end=\"3112\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3118\" data-end=\"3121\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3121\" data-end=\"3129\">Kun:\u003c/strong> It was nice hint of honey and smoke.\u003cbr data-start=\"3166\" data-end=\"3169\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3169\" data-end=\"3180\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3186\" data-end=\"3189\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3189\" data-end=\"3197\">Kun:\u003c/strong> It was juicy. It was beautifully plated. Very artistic. Cheese was a little bit chewy for me, but overall, one-slice pizza is enough.\u003cbr data-start=\"3331\" data-end=\"3334\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3334\" data-end=\"3345\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3351\" data-end=\"3354\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3354\" data-end=\"3362\">Kun:\u003c/strong> And now I’m like, “Okay. Another two years.”\u003cbr data-start=\"3407\" data-end=\"3410\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3410\" data-end=\"3421\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3427\" data-end=\"3430\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3438\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"3446\" data-end=\"3449\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3449\" data-end=\"3461\">Everett:\u003c/strong> And I had the La Regina pizza. Had the red sauce. It had soppressata, Parmigiano-Reggiano. It had prosciutto. It was delightful. Loved it.\u003cbr data-start=\"3600\" data-end=\"3603\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3603\" data-end=\"3614\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"68\" data-end=\"80\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have anything else, I mean, in terms of appetizers?\u003cbr data-start=\"140\" data-end=\"143\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"143\" data-end=\"154\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes, so we did the beet and radicchio salad, a little bit of bitterness, but then also there’s like a subtle sweetness with the beet. For summer, I thought it was a perfect addition, because I don’t remember seeing that the last couple times I’ve been in, so I was happy to try that this time. It was great.\u003cbr data-start=\"462\" data-end=\"465\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"465\" data-end=\"477\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And they have vegan options.\u003cbr data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"509\" data-is-only-node=\"\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"509\" data-end=\"520\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> They do. Yeah. Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"541\" data-end=\"544\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"544\" data-end=\"556\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If anybody wants to check out vegan.\u003cbr data-start=\"593\" data-end=\"596\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"596\" data-end=\"607\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah. Exactly.\u003cbr data-start=\"622\" data-end=\"625\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"637\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And quite a nice wine and beer selection.\u003cbr data-start=\"679\" data-end=\"682\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"682\" data-end=\"693\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes. Their pours are generous. I’m, like, similar to this. I’m, like, beautiful pours.\u003cbr data-start=\"780\" data-end=\"783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"783\" data-end=\"795\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> We are generous with our pours here at “Check, Please!”\u003cbr data-start=\"851\" data-end=\"854\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"854\" data-end=\"865\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> I know, I know. Great pours. Yeah. It was a beautiful, light white. They actually recommended it for me. Perfect complement to my dishes there.\u003cbr data-start=\"1009\" data-end=\"1012\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1012\" data-end=\"1024\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright. Any desserts?\u003cbr data-start=\"1047\" data-end=\"1050\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1050\" data-end=\"1058\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Tiramisu!\u003cbr data-start=\"1068\" data-end=\"1071\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1071\" data-end=\"1082\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Tiramisu, oh, yeah!\u003cbr data-start=\"1102\" data-end=\"1105\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1105\" data-end=\"1117\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] I was waiting for that to pop to the top.\u003cbr data-start=\"1168\" data-end=\"1171\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1171\" data-end=\"1182\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Uh-huh.\u003cbr data-start=\"1190\" data-end=\"1193\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1193\" data-end=\"1205\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, take it away.\u003cbr data-start=\"1228\" data-end=\"1231\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1231\" data-end=\"1239\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I ordered cappuccino. It was good. Decent cappuccino, which is nice. And they brought Tiramisu in the same cup. Yes. And it was nice, layered. For my taste buds, a little too sweet. But still. It’s tiramisu. It’s supposed to be sweet, right? And a little juice on the bottom. Lovely. Lovely.\u003cbr data-start=\"1531\" data-end=\"1534\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1534\" data-end=\"1545\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> It’s my favorite. One time we went kind of later in the— like, around maybe 8:00 or 9:00, and they were out of tiramisu.\u003cbr data-start=\"1666\" data-end=\"1669\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1669\" data-end=\"1681\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What?!\u003cbr data-start=\"1688\" data-end=\"1691\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1691\" data-end=\"1702\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> So get there early. Get there early. But it’s— it’s so good. It’s— yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1775\" data-end=\"1778\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1778\" data-end=\"1790\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s a pro tip. That’s a pro tip. Get there early. [Laughs] Alright, if you would like to try Pizzeria da Laura, it’s located on Shattuck Avenue in Berkeley. And the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $40. As a former culinary instructor, Rob has a huge appreciation for timeless French classics executed with precision and care. He finds them at a cozy bistro, offering crusty baguettes, buttery sauces and just the right touch of that certain je ne sais quoi. Located in Petaluma, it’s Brigitte Bistro. ♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"2326\" data-end=\"2329\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"2339\">Ronan:\u003c/strong> The Bistro, I see it as very casual, yet extremely well executed. Fresh products, traditional French cuisine… Mussels and fries. …very lively… I love it! …noisy… [Howls] Full of life. Full of life. Et voilà! [Laughs] The name of the restaurant is Brigitte, which is my mother. She was definitely not a cook. She had love and passion for life. She transmitted that to me. Bon appétit. Enjoy. The menu here is from my childhood. Everything I remember as a child that brightened my day, that made me feel very, very good. Steak tartare— as a child, my mother would send me to buy some beef and half of it would be gone because I would eat, while on my way back home, raw beef. [Laughing]\u003cbr data-start=\"3024\" data-end=\"3027\">[ Lively music playing ]\u003cbr data-start=\"3051\" data-end=\"3054\">The soupe à l’oignon. I add Port wine and I add sherry vinegar. The cheese has to be Swiss cheese Gruyère.\u003cbr data-start=\"3160\" data-end=\"3163\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3163\" data-end=\"3173\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Oh, wow.\u003cbr data-start=\"3182\" data-end=\"3185\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3185\" data-end=\"3195\">Ronan:\u003c/strong> I’m crazy about cheese. And the melted cheese. I’m not being shy on my plates. So, yeah, this is my childhood.\u003cbr data-start=\"3306\" data-end=\"3309\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3309\" data-end=\"3317\">Man:\u003c/strong> A little bit of heaven.\u003cbr data-start=\"3341\" data-end=\"3344\">[ Mid-tempo piano music playing ]\u003cbr data-start=\"3377\" data-end=\"3380\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3380\" data-end=\"3390\">Ronan:\u003c/strong> We go back to the old gastronomy way where waiters were as important as the kitchen. They will do a lot of tableside. It’s a whole lot of different details that make a big difference. It makes you feel special because you are special. One phrase— it’s love, food, wine, passion, life and people. And I’m lucky to awaken every single morning feeling like that. [Cheers and applause]\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"3776\" data-end=\"3788\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Rob, this is really a touch of France in California.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"80\" data-end=\"92\">Everett:\u003c/strong> We were so happy. About a year and a half ago, this French chef who had several restaurants in San Francisco fell in love with Petaluma, came up, renovated an old café, opened up this restaurant and named it for his maman, his mom. One of the appetizers I get every time I go there is the Escargots perched on top of the roasted half marrow bone. And it’s served with a sauce of butter, garlic and parsley.\u003cbr data-start=\"499\" data-end=\"502\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"502\" data-end=\"514\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003cbr data-start=\"519\" data-end=\"522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"522\" data-end=\"534\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Everett:\u003c/strong> It was simply delicious. Luckily, they serve it with lots of local Della Fattoria bread. We told the waiter, “Please save the bones for the dogs in the neighborhood.” By the time the evening had progressed, he had brought us five additional bones from other people. It was terrific. They’re very nice there.\u003cbr data-start=\"842\" data-end=\"845\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"845\" data-end=\"857\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, are you a French food lover?\u003cbr data-start=\"891\" data-end=\"894\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"894\" data-end=\"902\">Kun:\u003c/strong> To be honest, I fell in love with French food after this bistro. Oh, my God. I lost my virginity with onion soup.\u003cbr data-start=\"1016\" data-end=\"1019\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1019\" data-end=\"1031\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"1040\" data-end=\"1043\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1043\" data-end=\"1051\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I never had it before. It came from clay pot covered with cheese. It was a nice surprise to find bread inside the soup.\u003cbr data-start=\"1171\" data-end=\"1174\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1174\" data-end=\"1185\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah, yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1203\" data-end=\"1206\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1206\" data-end=\"1214\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Everything was in harmony. And the cheese was so gooey.\u003cbr data-start=\"1270\" data-end=\"1273\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1273\" data-end=\"1284\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yes! Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1295\" data-end=\"1298\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1306\">Kun:\u003c/strong> And it was so hot.\u003cbr data-start=\"1325\" data-end=\"1328\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1328\" data-end=\"1339\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1345\" data-end=\"1348\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1348\" data-end=\"1356\">Kun:\u003c/strong> As a Siberian, I appreciate hot dishes…\u003cbr data-start=\"1396\" data-end=\"1399\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1399\" data-end=\"1407\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"1415\" data-end=\"1418\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1418\" data-end=\"1426\">Kun:\u003c/strong> …and hot soups. Oh my God, almost boiling. And I loved it. I loved it.\u003cbr data-start=\"1497\" data-end=\"1500\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1500\" data-end=\"1511\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> I started with the French onion soup as well. I tried to make it at home. I never quite do it. This was phenomenal. So good, so densely flavored and it was a great start to the meal.\u003cbr data-start=\"1694\" data-end=\"1697\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1697\" data-end=\"1709\">Everett:\u003c/strong> The other appetizer that we really loved was the tableside Steak Tartare. Chopped flank steak with a quail egg in the middle, a few sliced cornichons, capers. Mixed together, it’s so delicious. And they serve it with house-made pomme gaufrettes, which are potato chips.\u003cbr data-start=\"1979\" data-end=\"1982\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1982\" data-end=\"1993\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> [Chuckles]\u003cbr data-start=\"2004\" data-end=\"2007\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2007\" data-end=\"2019\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Loved it. Loved it.\u003cbr data-start=\"2039\" data-end=\"2042\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2042\" data-end=\"2054\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Any tartare? Any takers?\u003cbr data-start=\"2079\" data-end=\"2082\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2082\" data-end=\"2093\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> No. No.\u003cbr data-start=\"2101\" data-end=\"2104\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2104\" data-end=\"2116\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> No tartare takers.\u003cbr data-start=\"2135\" data-end=\"2138\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2138\" data-end=\"2146\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I ordered salmon.\u003cbr data-start=\"2164\" data-end=\"2167\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2167\" data-end=\"2179\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, salmon tartare?\u003cbr data-start=\"2199\" data-end=\"2202\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2202\" data-end=\"2210\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Oh, my God. It was not a tartare. It was like generous amount of thin salmon and citruses on a side and croutons. So it was nice, buttery, creamy fish, crunchy croutons and citrusy fruits, which you feel like you like kissing a French young guy.\u003cbr data-start=\"2456\" data-end=\"2459\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2459\" data-end=\"2467\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"2475\" data-end=\"2478\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2478\" data-end=\"2490\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Well, okay.\u003cbr data-start=\"2502\" data-end=\"2505\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2505\" data-end=\"2517\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you feel that one?\u003cbr data-start=\"2540\" data-end=\"2543\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2543\" data-end=\"2555\">Everett:\u003c/strong> I did not.\u003cbr data-start=\"2566\" data-end=\"2569\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2569\" data-end=\"2577\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"2585\" data-end=\"2588\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2588\" data-end=\"2600\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You did not.\u003cbr data-start=\"2613\" data-end=\"2616\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2616\" data-end=\"2628\">Everett:\u003c/strong> But maybe next time.\u003cbr data-start=\"2649\" data-end=\"2652\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2652\" data-end=\"2664\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s right. You never know.\u003cbr data-start=\"2694\" data-end=\"2697\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2697\" data-end=\"2709\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Never know.\u003cbr data-start=\"2721\" data-end=\"2724\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2724\" data-end=\"2736\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. So what else did you have?\u003cbr data-start=\"2769\" data-end=\"2772\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2772\" data-end=\"2784\">Everett:\u003c/strong> I had the seared scallops. And, you know, it’s so easy to overdo scallops. These were perfectly, perfectly seared with a nice purée of leek and also purple cauliflower, which is delicious.\u003cbr data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"2976\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2976\" data-end=\"2987\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> So my husband got the scallops, which I helped myself to. Just kind of melt in your mouth. So good. And then I got the Wagyu Frites for myself. And my baby was with me, so we shared that. He loved it as well.\u003cbr data-start=\"3196\" data-end=\"3199\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3199\" data-end=\"3211\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did he love the frites?\u003cbr data-start=\"3235\" data-end=\"3238\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3238\" data-end=\"3249\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> He did love the frites, he did.\u003cbr data-start=\"3281\" data-end=\"3284\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3284\" data-end=\"3296\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You’ve got a little foodie, don’t you?\u003cbr data-start=\"3335\" data-end=\"3338\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3338\" data-end=\"3349\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> I do. I’m hoping. I’m hoping I’m raising him that way. Steak perfectly done, perfectly seasoned. It was really a delight.\u003cbr data-start=\"3471\" data-end=\"3474\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3474\" data-end=\"3486\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Another dish we had was the famed local Liberty Duck à l’Orange from local producer Jim Reichert. I taught both of his children in sixth grade. And it was served fabulously with duck fat potato mille-feuille.\u003cbr data-start=\"3695\" data-end=\"3698\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3698\" data-end=\"3710\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It means lots of layers.\u003cbr data-start=\"3735\" data-end=\"3738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3738\" data-end=\"3750\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Means a lot of layers. And any potato cooked in duck fat is just perfect.\u003cbr data-start=\"3824\" data-end=\"3827\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3839\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You could cook leather in duck fat.\u003cbr data-start=\"3875\" data-end=\"3878\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3878\" data-end=\"3890\">Everett:\u003c/strong> You could. You could.\u003cbr data-start=\"3912\" data-end=\"3915\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3915\" data-end=\"3927\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It would be good.\u003cbr data-start=\"3945\" data-end=\"3948\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3948\" data-end=\"3960\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"81\" data-end=\"93\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And so now we can get to dessert. Look at this. Look at that face! Okay. You get to start, Nala.\u003cbr data-start=\"190\" data-end=\"193\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"193\" data-end=\"201\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Floating island. Floating island. Oh, my God, it’s cloudy dessert. Soft, spongy, eggy, covered with a lot of caramel and salt popping in your mouth, and very nice roasted cashews on top. And everything floating in a lake of vanilla. Something like that. Overall, the whole texture blew my mind, to be honest.\u003cbr data-start=\"510\" data-end=\"513\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"513\" data-end=\"524\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> We ended the meal with Pistachio Tiramisu. That was my highlight. I’m like, the food was incredible, but it was like dinner and a show.\u003cbr data-start=\"660\" data-end=\"663\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"663\" data-end=\"675\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003cbr data-start=\"687\" data-end=\"690\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"690\" data-end=\"701\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> And also too, like, the aesthetic of how it looked— just perfectly in line, the ladyfingers, just the swirl of this pistachio cream.\u003cbr data-start=\"834\" data-end=\"837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"837\" data-end=\"845\">Man:\u003c/strong> Amazing, buddy.\u003cbr data-start=\"861\" data-end=\"864\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"864\" data-end=\"875\">Hynson:\u003c/strong> It was incredible.\u003cbr data-start=\"894\" data-end=\"897\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"897\" data-end=\"905\">Kun:\u003c/strong> I like the atmosphere a lot. They have open kitchen and it was spotless, so clean. And it was nice feeling that we all in the kitchen.\u003cbr data-start=\"1040\" data-end=\"1043\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1043\" data-end=\"1055\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Chef Nick was known as the Kissing Chef and the Hugging Chef. And of course as a French person does, they would kiss you twice, you know, as a welcome or a hug. Did you get a hug or a kiss?\u003cbr data-start=\"1245\" data-end=\"1248\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1248\" data-end=\"1256\">Kun:\u003c/strong> When I exit the restaurant, we had such a nice heart-to-heart hug. Oh my God.\u003cbr data-start=\"1334\" data-end=\"1337\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1337\" data-end=\"1349\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, obviously, you would go back?\u003cbr data-start=\"1384\" data-end=\"1387\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1387\" data-end=\"1399\">Everett:\u003c/strong> Absolutely go back. Take friends. Can’t wait to see Nick again. Get that hug. It’s a special spot in Petaluma.\u003cbr data-start=\"1510\" data-end=\"1513\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1513\" data-end=\"1521\">Kun:\u003c/strong> It’s worth the drive from San Francisco pretty much every weekend.\u003cbr data-start=\"1588\" data-end=\"1591\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1591\" data-end=\"1599\">All:\u003c/strong> [Laugh]\u003cbr data-start=\"1607\" data-end=\"1610\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1610\" data-end=\"1622\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Every weekend. Alright, you heard it here. Brigitte Bistro is located on Petaluma Boulevard in Petaluma. The average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $65. Looking for more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try?\u003cbr data-start=\"1853\" data-end=\"1856\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1856\" data-end=\"1869\">Phillips:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"1878\" data-end=\"1881\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1881\" data-end=\"1893\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Check out “Cecilia Tries It” online at kqed.org/checkplease.\u003cbr data-start=\"1954\" data-end=\"1957\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1957\" data-end=\"1970\">Phillips:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"1979\" data-end=\"1982\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1982\" data-end=\"1994\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I want to thank my fantastic guests on this week’s show. Candace Hynson, who raves about the Ray J at Pizzeria da Laura in Berkeley; Nala Kun, who savors the Syrniki at DACHA Kitchen & Bar in San Francisco; and Rob Everett, who says bonjour to the roasted bone marrow at Brigitte Bistro in Petaluma. Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers.\u003cbr data-start=\"2463\" data-end=\"2466\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2466\" data-end=\"2478\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have fun?\u003cbr data-start=\"2496\" data-end=\"2499\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2499\" data-end=\"2507\">Kun:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"2512\" data-end=\"2515\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2515\" data-end=\"2527\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah? Did you have fun?\u003cbr data-start=\"2551\" data-end=\"2554\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2554\" data-end=\"2566\">Everett:\u003c/strong> I did.\u003cbr data-start=\"2573\" data-end=\"2576\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2576\" data-end=\"2588\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr data-start=\"2597\" data-end=\"2600\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2600\" data-end=\"2610\">Meyer:\u003c/strong> This is our version of a margherita pizza. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 20, episode 11, airs Thursday, October 30, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On this special episode of \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, we’re joined by some of the Bay Area’s most dynamic storytellers. We kick off the show at \u003cstrong>The Sarap Shop\u003c/strong>! Known for fun but familiar twists like their halo-halo milk tea and lechon sisig carbonara mac, it’s no surprise that they’re located at the heart of the Pilipinas Cultural District in San Francisco’s South of Market neighborhood. Next, we cross the Bay to \u003cstrong>MAMA Oakland\u003c/strong>, where a carefully crafted prix fixe menu maps out Italian-American flavors. Highlights include pork-and-beef meatballs, housemade pastas, chocolate budino, and even a refreshing strawberry-tomato gazpacho — a feast for both savory and sweet lovers. Finally, we head to \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">San Francisco’s Mission District at \u003cstrong>Panchita’s Pupusería & Restaurant\u003c/strong>, where the beloved Salvadoran pupusa takes center stage. A late-night neighborhood staple since 1989, local diners rave about their meat and veggie pupusas alike, always completing the bite with curtido and salsa. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23649\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2011_Group_Food.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1620\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2011_Group_Food.png 1620w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2011_Group_Food-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2011_Group_Food-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2011_Group_Food-1536x1024.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1620px) 100vw, 1620px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.thesarapshop.com/\">\u003cstrong>The Sarap Shop\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://mama-oakland.com/\">\u003cstrong>MAMA Oakland\u003c/strong> (Oakland)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.panchitaspupuseria.com/\">\u003cstrong>Panchita’s Pupusería & Restaurant \u003c/strong>(San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23647\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/2011_Wines-2000x2681.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"2681\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/2011_Wines-2000x2681.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/2011_Wines-160x214.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/2011_Wines-768x1029.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/2011_Wines-1146x1536.jpg 1146w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/2011_Wines-1528x2048.jpg 1528w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/2011_Wines-scaled.jpg 1910w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"http://www.seasmoke.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Sea Smoke 2022 Chardonnay\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>Sta. Rita Hills, California $95\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nYears ago, I had a chance to experience an amazing vineyard in California — Sea Smoke. The name eloquently explains the place. Located in the rolling Sta. Rita Hills north of Santa Barbara, with close proximity to the Pacific Ocean, the cooling influence of what’s dubbed “sea smoke” is apparent in their stunning wines. As the fog flows through the Santa Ynez River canyon, it keeps the climate cool for a long, slow growing season. The grapes ripen and mature but maintain bright acidity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That is the hallmark of Sea Smoke wines, including their world-class lineup of pinot noirs. Sea Smoke’s estate-grown, organically farmed chardonnay, however, is a treasure. It’s a sleek, balanced white with rich lemon cream pie aromas balanced by bright citrus flavors. The texture is layered and lush from 10 months of French oak barrel aging but complemented by a mouth-puckering ping from the vibrant acidity. A wine to savor now with grilled salmon or pork loin, or to save and enjoy a few years from now. Splurge on this new California classic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003cspan class=\"contextualExtensionHighlight ms-font-color-themePrimary ms-border-color-themePrimary ident_1264_1334\" role=\"button\">\u003ca href=\"http://www.cmvineyard.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Centennial Mountain 2021 Nerello Mascalese\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/b>\u003cem>\u003cspan class=\"contextualExtensionHighlight ms-font-color-themePrimary ms-border-color-themePrimary ident_1264_1334\" role=\"button\">Sonoma County, California\u003c/span> $59\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nLooking for a wine that is surprising and rare? Seek out the small-lot, Italian-style wines from the acclaimed team behind Rhys Vineyards. Though they have been crafting stylish Nebbiolo from their Centennial Mountain vineyard since 2013, they later planted the first vines from Sicilian varieties in California. These include the unique Carricante (a white grape) and Nerello Mascalese, the red shining star of Sicily’s volcanic Mount Etna area. The team wanted to showcase how expressive these grape varieties could be from their high-altitude vineyard in northern Sonoma.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4413\" data-end=\"4810\">If you’re a Pinot Noir lover, you will find an exquisite alternative in the Centennial Mountain Nerello Mascalese. The hue is sheer purple, indicating a wine of refinement and brightness. The nose is intense with red berry and wild herbal aromas, while the mouthfeel is silky with a hint of taut tannins on the finish. It’s elegant and complex. Expand your wine horizons with this beautiful wine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"http://www.jonata.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Jonata 2022 “TODOS” Red Blend\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>Ballard Canyon, Santa Ynez Valley, California $60\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nNorthern California’s Sonoma and Napa may have an international reputation, but other Golden State viticultural areas are gaining ground in making world-class wines. One of those spots is the Santa Ynez Valley in Santa Barbara County on California’s Central Coast. Jonata is a rising star in the area. The name is a nod to an 1845 Spanish land grant named Rancho San Carlos de Jonata.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6370\" data-end=\"6853\">It’s a warm area where hearty red grapes thrive. Jonata began more than two decades ago, quietly planting renegade red varieties such as Syrah and Bordeaux varieties. The Todos — meaning “all” in Spanish — is a powerful blend of primarily Syrah, Petite Sirah and Cabernet Sauvignon. The bold, intense wine is inky dark in color with aromas of wild dark berries and spicy black pepper. On the palate, the juicy fruit is complemented by savory, smoky notes wrapped in a plush texture.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"275\" data-end=\"287\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ever wonder where Bay Area celebs grab a bite to unwind? From Filipino comforts…\u003cbr data-start=\"370\" data-end=\"373\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"373\" data-end=\"384\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Every bite is some new wonder.\u003cbr data-start=\"415\" data-end=\"418\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"418\" data-end=\"430\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …to handmade pupusas…\u003cbr data-start=\"456\" data-end=\"459\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"459\" data-end=\"474\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Washington:\u003c/strong> These were some good plantains.\u003cbr data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"509\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"509\" data-end=\"521\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …to seasonal Italian prix fixe plates…\u003cbr data-start=\"564\" data-end=\"567\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"567\" data-end=\"578\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> It felt like home. It felt like community.\u003cbr data-start=\"621\" data-end=\"624\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"624\" data-end=\"636\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …they’re ready to dish just ahead on “Check, Please! Bay Area.”\u003cbr data-start=\"702\" data-end=\"705\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"705\" data-end=\"720\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Boom!\u003cbr data-start=\"726\" data-end=\"729\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"729\" data-end=\"741\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi. I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to “Check, Please! Bay Area,” the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Today we’re joined at the “Check, Please!” table by three highly creative Bay Area locals. Adam Savage is the former co-host and executive producer of the “MythBusters” TV series, a New York Times best-selling author of “Every Tool Is a Hammer,” and editor-in-chief of “Tested” on YouTube. Ruby Ibarra is a rapper, songwriter, and director whose work has appeared in hit TV shows and popular video games.\u003cbr data-start=\"1292\" data-end=\"1295\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1295\" data-end=\"1306\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> ♪ Shoot you down like the moon ♪ ♪ Wear the crown, I resume ♪\u003cbr data-start=\"1368\" data-end=\"1371\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1371\" data-end=\"1383\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But NPR fans may know her best as the winner of the 2025 Tiny Desk Contest. Congratulations there. And Glynn Washington is the co-creator and host of the “Snap Judgment” radio show and podcast…\u003cbr data-start=\"1579\" data-end=\"1582\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1582\" data-end=\"1597\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Downtown Oakland near City Hall, it’s deserted.\u003cbr data-start=\"1645\" data-end=\"1648\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1648\" data-end=\"1660\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …as well as its spinoff podcast, “Spooked.” Welcome, everyone. You ready?\u003cbr data-start=\"1736\" data-end=\"1739\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1739\" data-end=\"1750\">Savage:\u003c/strong> We are so ready.\u003cbr data-start=\"1767\" data-end=\"1770\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1770\" data-end=\"1782\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ready for a party.\u003cbr data-start=\"1801\" data-end=\"1804\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1804\" data-end=\"1819\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Let’s do it.\u003cbr data-start=\"1832\" data-end=\"1835\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1835\" data-end=\"1847\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ruby’s up first with a buzzy little eatery that’s redefining what Filipino food can be without sacrificing taste. It’s a colorful spot where the chef’s plant-based options shine just as brightly as the classics. Located in San Francisco’s SoMa neighborhood, it’s The Sarap Shop.\u003cbr data-start=\"2126\" data-end=\"2129\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2141\">Kristen:\u003c/strong> Alright, tofu sisig carb, mild, lechon sisig carb in a to-go bag. Sarap Shop is a café, catering, and creative food studio, and we specialize in plant-forward Filipino American comfort food.\u003cbr data-start=\"2332\" data-end=\"2335\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2335\" data-end=\"2345\">James:\u003c/strong> That’s the tofu. I love working with my family. My mouth always waters when I make this dish. [ Chuckles ] Each of the characters behind me are a representation of each of us. I am the garlic god. Kristen is the fried egg. And then JP is the garlic rice bowl. So, sarap is a Tagalog word to describe something that feels good or it tastes good. When we were growing up, our lola used to describe our hugs as sarap. So, when we were coming up with the name Sarap Shop, our food tasted good, and it also made you feel good at the same time.\u003cbr data-start=\"2884\" data-end=\"2887\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2887\" data-end=\"2897\">Reyes:\u003c/strong> A dish that we’re super proud of is our tofu sisig. It was a creative challenge for myself where I was like, “I enjoy these foods. How do I make this vegan or vegetarian?” And almost a game of, like, tricking people to see if they can tell if it’s vegan or not.\u003cbr data-start=\"3159\" data-end=\"3162\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3162\" data-end=\"3172\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Oh, it’s really good.\u003cbr data-start=\"3194\" data-end=\"3197\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3197\" data-end=\"3209\">Kristen:\u003c/strong> A lot of the parties we go to, it’s like potlucks, and all of the food touches on your plate. That was our experience growing up. And so one of the dishes we have is our sisig carbonara. My godmother, she would make this carbonara and then my uncle would make a sisig and they would touch and I would be like — I would be the one that would combine it. And so I told JP about that dish, and he’s like, “I’m gonna make it.”\u003cbr data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3636\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3636\" data-end=\"3646\">James:\u003c/strong> Mm. So, adobo is my number-one favorite dish.\u003cbr data-start=\"3692\" data-end=\"3695\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3695\" data-end=\"3707\">Kristen:\u003c/strong> If my brother could tattoo “adobo” on his body, he would totally do it.\u003cbr data-start=\"3779\" data-end=\"3782\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3782\" data-end=\"3792\">James:\u003c/strong> Thick cuts of pork belly with a very sweet, garlicky, soy-forward sauce. It’s addictive.\u003cbr data-start=\"3881\" data-end=\"3884\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3884\" data-end=\"3896\">Kristen:\u003c/strong> I love adobo, too, but then I also really love fried okra. And there was just randomly a day where I was like, “Let’s try to put this on there.” So, it’s just like remixing some of, like, our childhood memories.\u003cbr data-start=\"4108\" data-end=\"4111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4111\" data-end=\"4121\">Reyes:\u003c/strong> We’re actually inside the Filipino cultural district of San Francisco.\u003cbr data-start=\"4192\" data-end=\"4195\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4195\" data-end=\"4207\">Kristen:\u003c/strong> We love being in the district, and we love having, like, the garage open when we can ’cause people can just drop by. Things like identity and culture, they’re meant to be shared and experimented with. And so the more that we can have, like, food be a vehicle for that, we feel very blessed and lucky to get to do it.\u003cbr data-start=\"4524\" data-end=\"4527\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4527\" data-end=\"4535\">All:\u003c/strong> Hope you like it!\u003cbr data-start=\"4553\" data-end=\"4556\">[ Indistinct conversations, laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"4594\" data-end=\"4597\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4597\" data-end=\"4609\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Ruby, you’re originally from the Philippines, but certainly have been in the Bay Area for a while. And what’s been your inspiration in your music career?\u003cbr data-start=\"4768\" data-end=\"4771\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4771\" data-end=\"4782\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I think a lot of the inspiration that I’ve had in my music is definitely my own experiences. I love to be able to showcase people who I am and where I come from and also give people some light into the stories from my community.\u003cbr data-start=\"5011\" data-end=\"5014\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5014\" data-end=\"5026\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, I think your music showcases diversity, as you said, and I think The Sarap Shop does, too, right?\u003cbr data-start=\"5130\" data-end=\"5133\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5133\" data-end=\"5144\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> They absolutely do.\u003cbr data-start=\"5164\" data-end=\"5167\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5167\" data-end=\"5179\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Let’s talk about that.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"11\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> So, I love The Sarap Shop. I’ve been such a huge fan of their food, and I think they’ve become a staple actually in the Filipino American community. They actually used to start as a food truck, and so seeing them grow just makes me very proud.\u003cbr data-start=\"255\" data-end=\"258\" data-is-only-node=\"\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"258\" data-end=\"270\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And the word means, you know, to feel good or to taste good, right?\u003cbr data-start=\"338\" data-end=\"341\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"341\" data-end=\"352\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Yeah, sarap means delicious.\u003cbr data-start=\"381\" data-end=\"384\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"384\" data-end=\"396\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Delicious, right? Did you find it delicious?\u003cbr data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"444\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"444\" data-end=\"455\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I absolutely did. It’s amazing how it is in this little spot that is — Like, I was 20 feet from the door, and I’m like, “I don’t think it’s anywhere near here.” [ Laughter ] And then you walk into this —\u003cbr data-start=\"661\" data-end=\"664\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"664\" data-end=\"676\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They make you work for it, Adam.\u003cbr data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"712\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"712\" data-end=\"723\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Exactly!\u003cbr data-start=\"732\" data-end=\"735\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"735\" data-end=\"746\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> It’s kind of like a hidden gem.\u003cbr data-start=\"778\" data-end=\"781\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"781\" data-end=\"792\">Savage:\u003c/strong> It feels like a hidden gem. It feels like a secret spot. And, yeah, everything I had there was so comforting. So, I ordered the pork belly adobo, which was phenomenal. And the adobo can be served both as a sandwich and as a rice bowl. And I looked up to the guy who was taking my order, and I was like, “I should get the rice bowl,” and he was like, “Yes, you should get the rice bowl.” And I was like, “That’s the guidance I want.” And then he’s like, “Do you want an egg on it?” And I’m like, “Am I a monster? Of course I want an egg on this.” Stirring of all the fat into the rice. And every bite is a little different. You know, the gold standard is that it’s just like every bite is some new wonder of a mix of the sweet and the savory and the fat and rice.\u003cbr data-start=\"1555\" data-end=\"1558\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1558\" data-end=\"1570\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All the good stuff.\u003cbr data-start=\"1590\" data-end=\"1593\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1593\" data-end=\"1604\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And I think — I’m pretty sure that they clocked that I was me, and they gave me some other things, as well.\u003cbr data-start=\"1713\" data-end=\"1716\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1716\" data-end=\"1728\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, nice.\u003cbr data-start=\"1738\" data-end=\"1741\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1741\" data-end=\"1752\">Savage:\u003c/strong> The —\u003cbr data-start=\"1759\" data-end=\"1762\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1762\" data-end=\"1774\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You got the VIP treatment.\u003cbr data-start=\"1801\" data-end=\"1804\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1804\" data-end=\"1815\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I did. They gave me an order of the little egg rolls.\u003cbr data-start=\"1869\" data-end=\"1872\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1872\" data-end=\"1883\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Lumpia.\u003cbr data-start=\"1891\" data-end=\"1894\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1894\" data-end=\"1905\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Lumpia, yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"1918\" data-end=\"1921\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1921\" data-end=\"1933\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. Did you like them?\u003cbr data-start=\"1958\" data-end=\"1961\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1961\" data-end=\"1972\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh.\u003cbr data-start=\"1985\" data-end=\"1988\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2000\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Crispy little sticks of like —\u003cbr data-start=\"2032\" data-end=\"2035\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2035\" data-end=\"2046\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Crispy. I’ve since looked them up, and the pastry that they’re wrapped in is just — it deep-fries to such a crispy, crispy — Oh, my God, it was fantastic.\u003cbr data-start=\"2203\" data-end=\"2206\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2206\" data-end=\"2218\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Do you love the lumpias when you go?\u003cbr data-start=\"2255\" data-end=\"2258\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2258\" data-end=\"2269\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I love lumpia. It’s pretty much — It’s one of those things where, in a Filipino household, you always have it stocked up in your freezer ready to fry, ready to go.\u003cbr data-start=\"2434\" data-end=\"2437\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2437\" data-end=\"2452\">Washington:\u003c/strong> My experience was — I felt like they must have thought I was Adam as well because I got a very much — it was very personal experience. They were excited to have me there.\u003cbr data-start=\"2625\" data-end=\"2628\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2628\" data-end=\"2640\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"2646\" data-end=\"2649\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2649\" data-end=\"2664\">Washington:\u003c/strong> They were like, “You coming here to try some food? We got some food for you. And I was like, Okay!” I just wanted to get — What do you recommend?” The first one I had was sisig, the pork sisig dish on rice.\u003cbr data-start=\"2872\" data-end=\"2875\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2875\" data-end=\"2887\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003cbr data-start=\"2895\" data-end=\"2898\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2898\" data-end=\"2913\">Washington:\u003c/strong> It was delicious. And it was like — The, like, pickled vegetables and stuff were all in this beautiful bowl. Again, they came out and said — Someone’s throwing down something like, “What do you think about that there?” I was like, “Yeah!”\u003cbr data-start=\"3154\" data-end=\"3157\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3157\" data-end=\"3168\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> They need your on-the-spot review.\u003cbr data-start=\"3203\" data-end=\"3206\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3206\" data-end=\"3221\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Right, like, “What do you think?” I’m like, “Yeah, I appreciate that.” And I also ordered a vegan one that was wrapped in, like, a flatbread.\u003cbr data-start=\"3363\" data-end=\"3366\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3366\" data-end=\"3378\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003cbr data-start=\"3386\" data-end=\"3389\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3389\" data-end=\"3404\">Washington:\u003c/strong> And that — Again, I’m not s– I ate the pork one first. I ate this up. I literally was cleaning the plate, like, the whole thing. I didn’t want to do that ’cause I didn’t want to clown, but I really did. It was so delicious. It was so flavorful. It was really colorful. The food was amazing to look at.\u003cbr data-start=\"3708\" data-end=\"3711\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3711\" data-end=\"3723\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Do you agree with his description of that?\u003cbr data-start=\"3766\" data-end=\"3769\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3769\" data-end=\"3780\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I’m so happy to hear those descriptions and those words because I feel the exact same way. I feel like, as Filipino food has entered the mainstream, a lot of the focus has been more so on, like, the meats. And so with thinking about health in mind, too, as I get older, I typically order the vegan tofu sisig rice bowl. So, it’s garlic notes, soy sauce, citrusy, over a bed of white rice with a garnish of veggies. And it’s so good. It’s crispy. I love how it has a very bold depth of flavors that just all seem to, like, work together really well.\u003cbr data-start=\"4329\" data-end=\"4332\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4332\" data-end=\"4343\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Well, I think a lot of Bay Area restaurants will have — if they serve vegan food primarily, they’ll have a meat dish to satisfy.\u003cbr data-start=\"4473\" data-end=\"4476\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4476\" data-end=\"4488\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr data-start=\"4495\" data-end=\"4498\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4498\" data-end=\"4509\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Or it’s the other way. This felt like every dish, whether meat or vegan, was delivered to be amazing.\u003cbr data-start=\"4611\" data-end=\"4614\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4614\" data-end=\"4625\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"4631\" data-end=\"4634\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4634\" data-end=\"4649\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I don’t love a lot of vegan food sometimes. I eat it because I’m supposed to and all that kind of stuff. [ Laughter ] This was great.\u003cbr data-start=\"4783\" data-end=\"4786\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4786\" data-end=\"4797\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I think the big mistake I made was going alone. I need to go back with at least two people so I can try everything on the menu. As I was leaving, they ran out to give me a drink. [ Laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"4995\" data-end=\"4998\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4998\" data-end=\"5013\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I guess I didn’t get the VIP treatment. I didn’t get any drinks, Adam. I don’t appreciate it.\u003cbr data-start=\"5107\" data-end=\"5110\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5110\" data-end=\"5121\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I took it home.\u003cbr data-start=\"5137\" data-end=\"5140\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5140\" data-end=\"5152\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They might have recognized you. Okay.\u003cbr data-start=\"5190\" data-end=\"5193\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5193\" data-end=\"5204\">Savage:\u003c/strong> It was a little jar of some purple liquid that was like a smoothie with little chunks in it, which normally bothers me, but was absolutely delicious.\u003cbr data-start=\"5354\" data-end=\"5357\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5357\" data-end=\"5368\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Oh, I love that one. That’s actually halo-halo.\u003cbr data-start=\"5416\" data-end=\"5419\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5419\" data-end=\"5430\">Savage:\u003c/strong> That’s what that’s called.\u003cbr data-start=\"5457\" data-end=\"5460\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5460\" data-end=\"5471\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> So, it’s a typical Filipino dessert, and they do it extremely well at Sarap Shop because it’s also plant-based…\u003cbr data-start=\"5585\" data-end=\"5588\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5588\" data-end=\"5599\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"5605\" data-end=\"5608\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5608\" data-end=\"5619\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> …but it’s very refreshing, kind of creamy, too, on the creamy side.\u003cbr data-start=\"5689\" data-end=\"5692\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5692\" data-end=\"5703\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah, super creamy.\u003cbr data-start=\"5723\" data-end=\"5726\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5726\" data-end=\"5738\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah. And what about the pricing? Did you feel that was fair?\u003cbr data-start=\"5800\" data-end=\"5803\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5803\" data-end=\"5814\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Actually, I think what you described about the accessibility of the spaces typifies all three of the restaurants we’re talking about today. They all feel very unassuming, but ludicrously welcoming.\u003cbr data-start=\"6024\" data-end=\"6027\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6027\" data-end=\"6039\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"6045\" data-end=\"6048\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6048\" data-end=\"6059\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And all three were incredibly reasonably priced. And I don’t know about you guys —\u003cbr data-start=\"6143\" data-end=\"6146\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6146\" data-end=\"6158\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Which is hard to find these days when you go out to eat.\u003cbr data-start=\"6215\" data-end=\"6218\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6218\" data-end=\"6233\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Yes, it was a bargain. I want to just — They were — That pride of ownership, you can’t fake. You can’t fake it. They were — They just looked, and you’re — “You like that, don’t you? I bet you like that.” [ Laughter ] You can’t fake that, right?\u003cbr data-start=\"6482\" data-end=\"6485\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6485\" data-end=\"6497\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Eagerly awaiting. Right. Eagerly awaiting. I love it. If you would like to try The Sarap Shop, it’s located on Stillman Street in San Francisco’s SoMa neighborhood. The average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $30. Glynn’s pick takes us to a beloved family-run spot where the spirit of nonna’s kitchen lives on. Here, the vibe is just as important as the food — warm, welcoming and rooted in community. Located just steps from Lake Merritt, it’s MAMA Oakland.\u003cbr data-start=\"6978\" data-end=\"6981\">[ Indistinct conversations ]\u003cbr data-start=\"7009\" data-end=\"7012\">♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"7014\" data-end=\"7017\">♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"7019\" data-end=\"7022\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7022\" data-end=\"7036\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> The name of the restaurant is MAMA Oakland ’cause it’s based off of my grandmother, Maria Stacionis. We call her Mama. She was a feisty lady.\u003cbr data-start=\"7178\" data-end=\"7181\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7181\" data-end=\"7195\">Przygocki:\u003c/strong> Okay, guys, this is MAMA’s sugo, tossed with pappardelle, Parmesan cheese, and basil.\u003cbr data-start=\"7281\" data-end=\"7284\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7284\" data-end=\"7298\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> The goal for the service and the vibe at MAMA is to feel like you’re walking into Mama’s house, to feel like, “Oh, my gosh, I’m so glad you’re here.” It feels convivial. It feels warm. It feels comfortable. The entire restaurant is based around the idea of sugo, MAMA’s sugo. It’s like the quintessential Italian American red sauce. Josiah, my business partner and husband, and I had this idea like, “What if we made a restaurant and it just served sugo? And then we were like, “Maybe we need a couple more things than just one dish.”\u003cbr data-start=\"7833\" data-end=\"7836\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7836\" data-end=\"7850\">Przygocki:\u003c/strong> The format of our menu is a three-course prix fixe menu. It changes based off of seasonality. So it’s always gonna have five or six fruits and vegetables that are super prime and ready to go. I am a basil freak. I’m a fennel freak. And anything that is, like, super fatty and delicious. If it’s gonna put me in a coma after I eat it, I want it.\u003cbr data-start=\"8195\" data-end=\"8198\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8198\" data-end=\"8212\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> The signature dish besides sugo is definitely meatballs.\u003cbr data-start=\"8269\" data-end=\"8272\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8272\" data-end=\"8286\">Przygocki:\u003c/strong> The key to a really great meatball is don’t over mix it and make sure that you have enough fat, so we do double pork to beef.\u003cbr data-start=\"8412\" data-end=\"8415\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8415\" data-end=\"8429\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> I remember Mama teaching me how to make meatballs because she’s, like, borderline inappropriate. There was a lot of talk about… manipulating the balls.\u003cbr data-start=\"8583\" data-end=\"8586\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8586\" data-end=\"8600\">Przygocki:\u003c/strong> [ Laughs ]\u003cbr data-start=\"8611\" data-end=\"8614\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8614\" data-end=\"8624\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Mmm!\u003cbr data-start=\"8629\" data-end=\"8632\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8632\" data-end=\"8646\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> It’s your first time here?\u003cbr data-start=\"8673\" data-end=\"8676\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8676\" data-end=\"8686\">Woman:\u003c/strong> It’s our first time here.\u003cbr data-start=\"8712\" data-end=\"8715\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8715\" data-end=\"8729\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> Oh, amazing.\u003cbr data-start=\"8742\" data-end=\"8745\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8745\" data-end=\"8755\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Cheers.\u003cbr data-start=\"8763\" data-end=\"8766\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8766\" data-end=\"8780\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> You go back to your favorite restaurants because, like, oh, you want that one thing, you want that same feeling that you experienced.\u003cbr data-start=\"8914\" data-end=\"8917\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8917\" data-end=\"8931\">Przygocki:\u003c/strong> There are so many people that walk up to me at the line and actually pass me and go directly into the kitchen, and they say, “You guys did a fantastic job. We’re so happy.\u003cbr data-start=\"9103\" data-end=\"9106\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9106\" data-end=\"9120\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> Mama is up there in heaven. She is having a dance party, she’s drinking wine, and she is stoked. She is so grateful that people come in here and look like they’re at our house having an amazing time.\u003cbr data-start=\"9320\" data-end=\"9323\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9323\" data-end=\"9335\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Glynn, how did you find MAMA?\u003cbr data-start=\"9370\" data-end=\"9373\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9373\" data-end=\"9388\">Washington:\u003c/strong> This is in my neighborhood, the Grand Lake neighborhood of Oakland.\u003cbr data-start=\"9456\" data-end=\"9459\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9459\" data-end=\"9471\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr data-start=\"9478\" data-end=\"9481\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9481\" data-end=\"9496\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I go there a lot, and so they give me the Adam treatment, which is, if I have to wait even a moment, they’ll come out and hand a glass of wine while I’m waiting, which is fabulous. It feels so continental and delicious.\u003cbr data-start=\"9716\" data-end=\"9719\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9719\" data-end=\"9731\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you feel so special.\u003cbr data-start=\"9756\" data-end=\"9759\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9759\" data-end=\"9774\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I feel so special. I was like, “Did I do ‘MythBusters’?” [ Laughter ] I really — It’s really, really great. You want to know the move. This is the move.\u003cbr data-start=\"9928\" data-end=\"9931\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9931\" data-end=\"9943\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, attention. Pro tip. Pro tip.\u003cbr data-start=\"9978\" data-end=\"9981\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9981\" data-end=\"9992\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Take notes.\u003cbr data-start=\"10004\" data-end=\"10007\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10007\" data-end=\"10018\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"10024\" data-end=\"10027\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10027\" data-end=\"10042\">Washington:\u003c/strong> This is what you do at MAMA’s. MAMA’s is a prix fixe menu.\u003cbr data-start=\"10101\" data-end=\"10104\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10104\" data-end=\"10116\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003cbr data-start=\"10124\" data-end=\"10127\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10127\" data-end=\"10142\">Washington:\u003c/strong> They’re gonna have two different things. They have a soup and a salad. They’re gonna have a pasta dish, and they’re gonna have dessert. You and your companion should get one, and you get the other.\u003cbr data-start=\"10340\" data-end=\"10343\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10343\" data-end=\"10354\">Savage:\u003c/strong> We did the move. We ordered everything on the menu.\u003cbr data-start=\"10406\" data-end=\"10409\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10409\" data-end=\"10424\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Right, right.\u003cbr data-start=\"10438\" data-end=\"10441\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10441\" data-end=\"10452\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And then we split it all. The soup was a gazpacho, which they brought out with some of the ingredients on and then they poured the gazpacho over it. I’m a soup guy.\u003cbr data-start=\"10617\" data-end=\"10620\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10620\" data-end=\"10632\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"10638\" data-end=\"10641\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10641\" data-end=\"10652\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I love any kind of soup. The gazpacho was cold. It was crisp. It was fantastic.\u003cbr data-start=\"10732\" data-end=\"10735\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10735\" data-end=\"10746\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I also did the Glynn method. I went with my husband, and we decided to just do one of each so we can try everything on the menu. I really remember the crostata. It was just so refreshing. It was just incredible to start off the three-course meal. And then afterwards we had the campanelle pasta. And I loved how that tomato sauce wasn’t very strong. It was nice and light. It’s unique. I don’t think I’ve had a pasta sauce that tasted exactly like that.\u003cbr data-start=\"11200\" data-end=\"11203\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11203\" data-end=\"11214\">Savage:\u003c/strong> The other thing that I particularly loved was the pappardelle. I love just the widest noodle I could possibly get.\u003cbr data-start=\"11329\" data-end=\"11332\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11332\" data-end=\"11344\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Me too.\u003cbr data-start=\"11352\" data-end=\"11355\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11355\" data-end=\"11366\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And the pappardelle was fantastic.\u003cbr data-start=\"11401\" data-end=\"11404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11404\" data-end=\"11416\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And again, these rotate and they change, so you —\u003cbr data-start=\"11467\" data-end=\"11470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11470\" data-end=\"11485\">Washington:\u003c/strong> You never know. You never know.\u003cbr data-start=\"11517\" data-end=\"11520\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11520\" data-end=\"11531\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> That’s why you got to keep going.\u003cbr data-start=\"11565\" data-end=\"11568\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11568\" data-end=\"11580\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s right.\u003cbr data-start=\"11594\" data-end=\"11597\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11597\" data-end=\"11608\">Savage:\u003c/strong> There’s something I really loved about the add-ons which was unique.\u003cbr data-start=\"11677\" data-end=\"11680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11680\" data-end=\"11692\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So you can order the prix fixe, but then do the add-ons, like $10 more for meatballs and things like.\u003cbr data-start=\"11794\" data-end=\"11797\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11797\" data-end=\"11808\">Savage:\u003c/strong> The add-ons were where the savory arrived. Like, the dishes themselves were a little more on the sweet and vegetable side.\u003cbr data-start=\"11931\" data-end=\"11934\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11934\" data-end=\"11946\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Interesting.\u003cbr data-start=\"11959\" data-end=\"11962\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11962\" data-end=\"11973\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And then the add-ons delivered this wonderful savory note for all the other dishes.\u003cbr data-start=\"12057\" data-end=\"12060\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12060\" data-end=\"12072\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr data-start=\"12079\" data-end=\"12082\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12082\" data-end=\"12097\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I’ll say this. You got to get the meatballs.\u003cbr data-start=\"12142\" data-end=\"12145\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12145\" data-end=\"12156\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Bingo.\u003cbr data-start=\"12163\" data-end=\"12166\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12166\" data-end=\"12181\">Washington:\u003c/strong> You have to get the meatballs.\u003cbr data-start=\"12212\" data-end=\"12215\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12215\" data-end=\"12227\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I was waiting for that.\u003cbr data-start=\"12251\" data-end=\"12254\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12254\" data-end=\"12269\">Washington:\u003c/strong> The meatballs are like — The meatballs are not an add-on. You have to order —\u003cbr data-start=\"12349\" data-end=\"12352\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12352\" data-end=\"12363\">Savage:\u003c/strong> It’s true.\u003cbr data-start=\"12374\" data-end=\"12377\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12377\" data-end=\"12392\">Washington:\u003c/strong> They’re meatballs.\u003cbr data-start=\"12411\" data-end=\"12414\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12414\" data-end=\"12426\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Again, pro tip.\u003cbr data-start=\"12442\" data-end=\"12445\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12445\" data-end=\"12460\">Washington:\u003c/strong> The meatballs are part of the meal, and the focaccia and the sauce of whatever pasta dish you do, you’ve got to do one of these numbers a lot. You got to do that, yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"12629\" data-end=\"12632\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12632\" data-end=\"12644\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah. Okay, what about dessert?\u003cbr data-start=\"12676\" data-end=\"12679\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12679\" data-end=\"12690\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Wait, wait, wait. Before we get to dessert, there was a palate cleanser.\u003cbr data-start=\"12763\" data-end=\"12766\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12766\" data-end=\"12778\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh!\u003cbr data-start=\"12782\" data-end=\"12785\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12785\" data-end=\"12796\">Savage:\u003c/strong> They brought us some little ball of lemon granitas in some cherry syrup.\u003cbr data-start=\"12869\" data-end=\"12872\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12872\" data-end=\"12884\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you guys get that treatment?!\u003cbr data-start=\"12918\" data-end=\"12921\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12921\" data-end=\"12936\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I don’t know what happened.\u003cbr data-start=\"12964\" data-end=\"12967\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12967\" data-end=\"12978\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I was not informed.\u003cbr data-start=\"12998\" data-end=\"13001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13001\" data-end=\"13016\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Again. It keeps happening, and I’m against the whole thing. I don’t appreciate what is going down here. I do not appreciate it. No lemon granitas in cherry syrup.\u003cbr data-start=\"13179\" data-end=\"13182\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13182\" data-end=\"13194\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> “It’s Adam Savage! We got to bring him something!”\u003cbr data-start=\"13245\" data-end=\"13248\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13248\" data-end=\"13263\">Washington:\u003c/strong> It’s outrageous. [ Laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"13293\" data-end=\"13296\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13296\" data-end=\"13308\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, go ahead, VIP. [ Laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"13342\" data-end=\"13345\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13345\" data-end=\"13356\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Tell us what else we don’t know.\u003cbr data-start=\"13389\" data-end=\"13392\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13392\" data-end=\"13403\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Well, I thought the foot rub was a great ending to the meal. [ Laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"13477\" data-end=\"13480\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13480\" data-end=\"13492\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ooh. So?\u003cbr data-start=\"13501\" data-end=\"13504\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13504\" data-end=\"13515\">Savage:\u003c/strong> The desserts were spectacular.\u003cbr data-start=\"13546\" data-end=\"13549\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13549\" data-end=\"13561\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, which one did you have?\u003cbr data-start=\"13591\" data-end=\"13594\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13594\" data-end=\"13605\">Savage:\u003c/strong> There was a chocolate and a cheesecake. I ate most of the cheesecake. My wife ate most of the chocolate.\u003cbr data-start=\"13710\" data-end=\"13713\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13713\" data-end=\"13725\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> There you go. That sounds fair.\u003cbr data-start=\"13757\" data-end=\"13760\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13760\" data-end=\"13771\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I had both as well, and what I really appreciated about the cheesecake is — I’m typically not a cheesecake fan. To me, most of the time, it’s just too rich and just too much. Like, one bite, that’s good enough for me. But I almost finished the entire plate and then took it away from my husband. And it was just so good. I felt like the berries that they added on top gave it a nice touch to kind of balance the flavor so it wasn’t, like, kind of too much. And then the chocolate — I don’t know if it was, like, a mousse. That was also rich and creamy and very delicious. And the portions are perfect.\u003cbr data-start=\"14375\" data-end=\"14378\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14378\" data-end=\"14393\">Washington:\u003c/strong> When I was there, I guess they called it the end of the stone fruit season. And so I had an apricot something or another deliciousness that they whipped up. It was fantastic. I think whenever you go there — They’re not gonna have that. That’s gonna be gone because they’ve moved on.\u003cbr data-start=\"14677\" data-end=\"14680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14680\" data-end=\"14692\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But there’ll be two other choices.\u003cbr data-start=\"14727\" data-end=\"14730\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14730\" data-end=\"14745\">Washington:\u003c/strong> There’ll be two other choices, and they’re gonna be delicious as well. It’s like, I trust these people.\u003cbr data-start=\"14849\" data-end=\"14852\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14852\" data-end=\"14863\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"14869\" data-end=\"14872\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14872\" data-end=\"14887\">Washington:\u003c/strong> At least, I did before Adam got the special situation going on there. [ Laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"14970\" data-end=\"14973\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14973\" data-end=\"14985\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> He’s got this down. I can’t wait to hear about the next restaurant. Alright, if you would like to try MAMA Oakland, it’s located on Grand Avenue in Oakland’s Lake Merritt neighborhood, and the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $60.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"12\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Adam’s pick is a cozy spot where the scent of masa and melting cheese has filled the air for more than 35 years. It’s a Salvadoran restaurant where handmade pupusas and other Latin American specialties keep generations of diners — and Adam — coming back for more. Located in San Francisco’s Mission District, it’s Panchita’s Pupuseria & Restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"flex max-w-full flex-col grow\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"min-h-8 text-message relative flex w-full flex-col items-end gap-2 text-start break-words whitespace-normal [.text-message+&]:mt-1\" dir=\"auto\" data-message-author-role=\"assistant\" data-message-id=\"a80d708a-6018-49bc-b125-2f88965c7a65\" data-message-model-slug=\"gpt-5-1\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"flex w-full flex-col gap-1 empty:hidden first:pt-[1px]\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"markdown prose dark:prose-invert w-full break-words light markdown-new-styling\">\n\u003cp data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"9092\" data-is-last-node=\"\" data-is-only-node=\"\">♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"368\" data-end=\"371\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"371\" data-end=\"381\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Thank you.\u003cbr data-start=\"392\" data-end=\"395\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"395\" data-end=\"406\">Campos:\u003c/strong> El Salvador is the house of pupusas. And the pupusa is fresh masa with any kind of meat or vegetable inside. And we roll it and grill it. The pupusa you can eat anytime, in the morning, in the afternoon, at night. That’s the good thing to pupusas. My mother started Panchita’s in 1976. We started with nothing. Every day we buy everything and we sell it and we buy again and we sell it and we buy again. That’s the way we started. But in 1989, I opened my own Panchita’s. This is Panchita’s #2. Everybody asks me, “How do you make those so good pupusas?” So, my mother showed me how to do those really good pupusas. That’s spinach. That’s cheese. I always tell everybody this is my mother’s recipe. That’s like my legado. Here in Panchita’s, we have our 30 kinds of pupusas. I added every year one different kind. These ones are good. My favorite thing in the menu is the sopa de gallina. Every day it’s fresh, and the gallina is the mother of the chicken. That’s why the soup is so good. [ Up-tempo guitar music plays ] I really like this place. Always here for people who really need job, food. People who are hungry, this is the place to come in. My two daughters — they are really working hard. I want to see this next generation and still pupusas will be here.\u003cbr data-start=\"1673\" data-end=\"1676\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1676\" data-end=\"1686\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Oh, my God!\u003cbr data-start=\"1698\" data-end=\"1701\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1712\">Campos:\u003c/strong> I never be tired to eating pupusas. I hope you, too. [ Laughs ] Ooh! [ Laughs ]\u003cbr data-start=\"1792\" data-end=\"1795\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1795\" data-end=\"1807\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Adam, it sounds like you’ve been living in the Mission as long as the restaurant has been open, right?\u003cbr data-start=\"1919\" data-end=\"1922\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1922\" data-end=\"1933\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Pretty much.\u003cbr data-start=\"1946\" data-end=\"1949\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1949\" data-end=\"1961\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1967\" data-end=\"1970\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1970\" data-end=\"1981\">Savage:\u003c/strong> So, Panchita’s has been a part of my entire Mission journey since 1990 in San Francisco. I eat there maybe once a week. I’ve taken heads of state and astronauts there. I love that the interior is weirdly painted trompe l’oeil, almost like a favela, right?\u003cbr data-start=\"2237\" data-end=\"2240\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2240\" data-end=\"2252\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"2258\" data-end=\"2261\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2261\" data-end=\"2272\">Savage:\u003c/strong> With, like, corrugated roofing and hurricane fencing, but it’s all trompe l’oeil.\u003cbr data-start=\"2354\" data-end=\"2357\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2357\" data-end=\"2369\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"2375\" data-end=\"2378\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2378\" data-end=\"2389\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And the pupusas are just one of my main comfort-food dishes.\u003cbr data-start=\"2450\" data-end=\"2453\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2453\" data-end=\"2465\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And it’s one of the best words to say, isn’t it? Everybody say it.\u003cbr data-start=\"2532\" data-end=\"2535\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2535\" data-end=\"2543\">All:\u003c/strong> Pupusas.\u003cbr data-start=\"2552\" data-end=\"2555\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2555\" data-end=\"2566\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"2571\" data-end=\"2574\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2574\" data-end=\"2586\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s a great word to say.\u003cbr data-start=\"2612\" data-end=\"2615\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2615\" data-end=\"2626\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Totally. Now, the main thing about a pupusa is that you want to eat it with the slaw and the red sauce. And you got to dump the slaw on, and then you drown it in the red sauce, which is not super spicy. And my favorite pupusa is the mixed, which is pork and vegetables with the cheese. It’s like a little bit of everything I want in my meal.\u003cbr data-start=\"2968\" data-end=\"2971\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2971\" data-end=\"2983\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And that lovely masa, yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3011\" data-end=\"3014\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3014\" data-end=\"3025\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And then I always — I love their plátanos, the plantains with the crema and the refried beans, right?\u003cbr data-start=\"3128\" data-end=\"3131\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3131\" data-end=\"3143\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Uh, over here. I can feel — I feel Glynn going, “This is it.”\u003cbr data-start=\"3206\" data-end=\"3209\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3209\" data-end=\"3224\">Washington:\u003c/strong> This is the move. This is the move. I don’t know from pupusas. I don’t. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. But I do know from plantains, and these were some good plantains right here, just the crisp but sweet. You’ve got the avocado, the sour cream right there. You can kind of like get a little bit of it all in one bite. Boom! It was like — That was my favorite aspect of the meal.\u003cbr data-start=\"3602\" data-end=\"3605\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3605\" data-end=\"3616\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3622\" data-end=\"3625\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3625\" data-end=\"3637\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What about you, Ruby?\u003cbr data-start=\"3659\" data-end=\"3662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3662\" data-end=\"3673\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I just fell in love with the pupusa. So, I’ve only had a handful of pupusas so far in my life, but, hands down, the mushroom and garlic one that I had at Panchita’s has to be for me, my personal opinion, the best pupusas I’ve ever had. And it was just creamy, cheesy. The mushrooms inside were seasoned very well. I appreciate it also how there was a nice kind of char on the outside of the pupusas. I think there was also some excess cheese, which gave it a nice crisp, so when you bit into it, I’m like, “Oh, my gosh, this is so good.”\u003cbr data-start=\"4211\" data-end=\"4214\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4214\" data-end=\"4226\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Is there really excess cheese, though?\u003cbr data-start=\"4265\" data-end=\"4268\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4268\" data-end=\"4279\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> You can never have too much cheese.\u003cbr data-start=\"4315\" data-end=\"4318\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4318\" data-end=\"4330\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You can never have too much cheese.\u003cbr data-start=\"4366\" data-end=\"4369\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4369\" data-end=\"4384\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I got the pupusa you mentioned, the mushroom, and I got a pork and beef one. This was not sitting in the back somewhere. They made that for me like 30 seconds before they put it on the plate, which was really, really wonderful. And I just loved it.\u003cbr data-start=\"4633\" data-end=\"4636\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4636\" data-end=\"4647\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> And this was another restaurant, I think, out of the three that we’ve had where, again, it felt like home. It felt like community. And for me growing up, me and my family didn’t eat a lot of restaurants. We usually ate at home. So when I go to restaurants like Panchita’s and it gives you a sense of home, that sense of, like, home-cooked meals…\u003cbr data-start=\"4995\" data-end=\"4998\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4998\" data-end=\"5010\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr data-start=\"5017\" data-end=\"5020\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5020\" data-end=\"5031\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> …I just love that. And it has that nostalgic feel to it.\u003cbr data-start=\"5090\" data-end=\"5093\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5104\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I’ve eaten at a lot of great restaurants where I felt just like a customer.\u003cbr data-start=\"5180\" data-end=\"5183\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5183\" data-end=\"5195\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"5201\" data-end=\"5204\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5204\" data-end=\"5215\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And in all three of the places that we ate, I felt like I was being fed by people whose joy was feeding.\u003cbr data-start=\"5320\" data-end=\"5323\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5323\" data-end=\"5338\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003cbr data-start=\"5343\" data-end=\"5346\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5346\" data-end=\"5357\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Right? Just giving you that succor.\u003cbr data-start=\"5393\" data-end=\"5396\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5396\" data-end=\"5408\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> He says that because he gets the VIP treatment.\u003cbr data-start=\"5456\" data-end=\"5459\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5459\" data-end=\"5474\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Well, again — [ Laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"5502\" data-end=\"5505\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5505\" data-end=\"5516\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I’m never gonna live that down.\u003cbr data-start=\"5548\" data-end=\"5551\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5551\" data-end=\"5566\">Washington:\u003c/strong> This place — I don’t know from the VIP treatment, Adam, but I felt like I got it with the dessert empanada. This empanada had some sort of leche cream in it, maybe some more plantain stuff. It was crispy and hot, but delicious. You stick your finger in there, and you lick that leche stuff off of it. It was just — It was really — I don’t — I don’t know that I’ve ever had something quite like that before.\u003cbr data-start=\"5977\" data-end=\"5980\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5980\" data-end=\"5992\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"5998\" data-end=\"6001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6001\" data-end=\"6016\">Washington:\u003c/strong> It was really wonderful.\u003cbr data-start=\"6041\" data-end=\"6044\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6044\" data-end=\"6055\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I usually have their Mexican wedding cookies as a dessert. I’ve never tried that. I’m gonna have to.\u003cbr data-start=\"6156\" data-end=\"6159\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6159\" data-end=\"6171\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You’ve never tried it in all the years you’ve been there?\u003cbr data-start=\"6229\" data-end=\"6232\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6232\" data-end=\"6247\">Washington:\u003c/strong> They only brought it out for me. It’s not available in stores because…\u003cbr data-start=\"6320\" data-end=\"6323\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6323\" data-end=\"6335\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The win goes to Glynn.\u003cbr data-start=\"6358\" data-end=\"6361\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6361\" data-end=\"6376\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Right, right. In the end, yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"6407\" data-end=\"6410\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6410\" data-end=\"6421\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I did want to mention their horchata. They have agua frescas and they revolve and they’re seasonal. I’m particularly addicted to horchata. I love — And theirs has —\u003cbr data-start=\"6588\" data-end=\"6591\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6591\" data-end=\"6603\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Talk about texture. It’s really about texture.\u003cbr data-start=\"6650\" data-end=\"6653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6653\" data-end=\"6664\">Savage:\u003c/strong> It is texture, and their horchata has a little grit to it, which I want. That’s what I like out of my horchata, yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"6782\" data-end=\"6785\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6785\" data-end=\"6796\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I wish I had tried the horchata, but I did have, like, the Jarritos that they had. And they have a wide selection of beverages, so I’m gonna have to go back next time and try a little bit more. Yeah, I felt like the price was really fair, too, especially for the amount of food that you get. That was a sizable plate, and it’s completely filled. And I would say though, that the — I mean, ’cause it is in a busy part of the city where parking was a little bit challenging, but it’s well worth it.\u003cbr data-start=\"7294\" data-end=\"7297\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7297\" data-end=\"7308\">Savage:\u003c/strong> There is a parking garage half a block away on Hoff Street.\u003cbr data-start=\"7368\" data-end=\"7371\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7371\" data-end=\"7383\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> There we go. See? Another inside tip right there when you go back. If you would like to try Panchita’s Pupuseria & Restaurant, it’s located on 16th Street in San Francisco’s Mission District. The average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $30.\u003cbr data-start=\"7645\" data-end=\"7648\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7648\" data-end=\"7660\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Looking for more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try?\u003cbr data-start=\"7716\" data-end=\"7719\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7719\" data-end=\"7732\">Phillips:\u003c/strong> [ Laughs ]\u003cbr data-start=\"7743\" data-end=\"7746\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7746\" data-end=\"7758\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Check out “Cecilia Tries It” online at kqed.org/checkplease. I have to thank my fabulous guests on this week’s show — Adam Savage, who practically nosedives into the red sauce at Panchita’s Pupuseria & Restaurant in San Francisco, Ruby Ibarra, who loves the vegan twist on Filipino favorites at the Sarap Shop in San Francisco, and Glynn Washington, whose home away from home just might be MAMA Oakland. Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers. And cheers to you.\u003cbr data-start=\"8351\" data-end=\"8354\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8354\" data-end=\"8365\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Cheers.\u003cbr data-start=\"8373\" data-end=\"8376\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8376\" data-end=\"8388\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What do you think of the places we featured today? 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 20, episode 11, airs Thursday, October 30, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On this special episode of \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, we’re joined by some of the Bay Area’s most dynamic storytellers. We kick off the show at \u003cstrong>The Sarap Shop\u003c/strong>! Known for fun but familiar twists like their halo-halo milk tea and lechon sisig carbonara mac, it’s no surprise that they’re located at the heart of the Pilipinas Cultural District in San Francisco’s South of Market neighborhood. Next, we cross the Bay to \u003cstrong>MAMA Oakland\u003c/strong>, where a carefully crafted prix fixe menu maps out Italian-American flavors. Highlights include pork-and-beef meatballs, housemade pastas, chocolate budino, and even a refreshing strawberry-tomato gazpacho — a feast for both savory and sweet lovers. Finally, we head to \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">San Francisco’s Mission District at \u003cstrong>Panchita’s Pupusería & Restaurant\u003c/strong>, where the beloved Salvadoran pupusa takes center stage. A late-night neighborhood staple since 1989, local diners rave about their meat and veggie pupusas alike, always completing the bite with curtido and salsa. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23649\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2011_Group_Food.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1620\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2011_Group_Food.png 1620w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2011_Group_Food-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2011_Group_Food-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/11/CPBA_2011_Group_Food-1536x1024.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1620px) 100vw, 1620px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.thesarapshop.com/\">\u003cstrong>The Sarap Shop\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://mama-oakland.com/\">\u003cstrong>MAMA Oakland\u003c/strong> (Oakland)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.panchitaspupuseria.com/\">\u003cstrong>Panchita’s Pupusería & Restaurant \u003c/strong>(San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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Ruby Ibarra is a rapper, songwriter, and director whose work has appeared in hit TV shows and popular video games.\u003cbr data-start=\"1292\" data-end=\"1295\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1295\" data-end=\"1306\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> ♪ Shoot you down like the moon ♪ ♪ Wear the crown, I resume ♪\u003cbr data-start=\"1368\" data-end=\"1371\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1371\" data-end=\"1383\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But NPR fans may know her best as the winner of the 2025 Tiny Desk Contest. Congratulations there. And Glynn Washington is the co-creator and host of the “Snap Judgment” radio show and podcast…\u003cbr data-start=\"1579\" data-end=\"1582\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1582\" data-end=\"1597\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Downtown Oakland near City Hall, it’s deserted.\u003cbr data-start=\"1645\" data-end=\"1648\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1648\" data-end=\"1660\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …as well as its spinoff podcast, “Spooked.” Welcome, everyone. 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Located in San Francisco’s SoMa neighborhood, it’s The Sarap Shop.\u003cbr data-start=\"2126\" data-end=\"2129\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2141\">Kristen:\u003c/strong> Alright, tofu sisig carb, mild, lechon sisig carb in a to-go bag. Sarap Shop is a café, catering, and creative food studio, and we specialize in plant-forward Filipino American comfort food.\u003cbr data-start=\"2332\" data-end=\"2335\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2335\" data-end=\"2345\">James:\u003c/strong> That’s the tofu. I love working with my family. My mouth always waters when I make this dish. [ Chuckles ] Each of the characters behind me are a representation of each of us. I am the garlic god. Kristen is the fried egg. And then JP is the garlic rice bowl. So, sarap is a Tagalog word to describe something that feels good or it tastes good. When we were growing up, our lola used to describe our hugs as sarap. 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My godmother, she would make this carbonara and then my uncle would make a sisig and they would touch and I would be like — I would be the one that would combine it. And so I told JP about that dish, and he’s like, “I’m gonna make it.”\u003cbr data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3636\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3636\" data-end=\"3646\">James:\u003c/strong> Mm. So, adobo is my number-one favorite dish.\u003cbr data-start=\"3692\" data-end=\"3695\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3695\" data-end=\"3707\">Kristen:\u003c/strong> If my brother could tattoo “adobo” on his body, he would totally do it.\u003cbr data-start=\"3779\" data-end=\"3782\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3782\" data-end=\"3792\">James:\u003c/strong> Thick cuts of pork belly with a very sweet, garlicky, soy-forward sauce. It’s addictive.\u003cbr data-start=\"3881\" data-end=\"3884\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3884\" data-end=\"3896\">Kristen:\u003c/strong> I love adobo, too, but then I also really love fried okra. And there was just randomly a day where I was like, “Let’s try to put this on there.” So, it’s just like remixing some of, like, our childhood memories.\u003cbr data-start=\"4108\" data-end=\"4111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4111\" data-end=\"4121\">Reyes:\u003c/strong> We’re actually inside the Filipino cultural district of San Francisco.\u003cbr data-start=\"4192\" data-end=\"4195\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4195\" data-end=\"4207\">Kristen:\u003c/strong> We love being in the district, and we love having, like, the garage open when we can ’cause people can just drop by. Things like identity and culture, they’re meant to be shared and experimented with. And so the more that we can have, like, food be a vehicle for that, we feel very blessed and lucky to get to do it.\u003cbr data-start=\"4524\" data-end=\"4527\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4527\" data-end=\"4535\">All:\u003c/strong> Hope you like it!\u003cbr data-start=\"4553\" data-end=\"4556\">[ Indistinct conversations, laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"4594\" data-end=\"4597\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4597\" data-end=\"4609\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Ruby, you’re originally from the Philippines, but certainly have been in the Bay Area for a while. And what’s been your inspiration in your music career?\u003cbr data-start=\"4768\" data-end=\"4771\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4771\" data-end=\"4782\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I think a lot of the inspiration that I’ve had in my music is definitely my own experiences. 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They actually used to start as a food truck, and so seeing them grow just makes me very proud.\u003cbr data-start=\"255\" data-end=\"258\" data-is-only-node=\"\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"258\" data-end=\"270\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And the word means, you know, to feel good or to taste good, right?\u003cbr data-start=\"338\" data-end=\"341\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"341\" data-end=\"352\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Yeah, sarap means delicious.\u003cbr data-start=\"381\" data-end=\"384\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"384\" data-end=\"396\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Delicious, right? Did you find it delicious?\u003cbr data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"444\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"444\" data-end=\"455\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I absolutely did. 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And I looked up to the guy who was taking my order, and I was like, “I should get the rice bowl,” and he was like, “Yes, you should get the rice bowl.” And I was like, “That’s the guidance I want.” And then he’s like, “Do you want an egg on it?” And I’m like, “Am I a monster? Of course I want an egg on this.” Stirring of all the fat into the rice. And every bite is a little different. 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I eat it because I’m supposed to and all that kind of stuff. [ Laughter ] This was great.\u003cbr data-start=\"4783\" data-end=\"4786\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4786\" data-end=\"4797\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I think the big mistake I made was going alone. I need to go back with at least two people so I can try everything on the menu. As I was leaving, they ran out to give me a drink. [ Laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"4995\" data-end=\"4998\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4998\" data-end=\"5013\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I guess I didn’t get the VIP treatment. I didn’t get any drinks, Adam. I don’t appreciate it.\u003cbr data-start=\"5107\" data-end=\"5110\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5110\" data-end=\"5121\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I took it home.\u003cbr data-start=\"5137\" data-end=\"5140\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5140\" data-end=\"5152\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They might have recognized you. Okay.\u003cbr data-start=\"5190\" data-end=\"5193\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5193\" data-end=\"5204\">Savage:\u003c/strong> It was a little jar of some purple liquid that was like a smoothie with little chunks in it, which normally bothers me, but was absolutely delicious.\u003cbr data-start=\"5354\" data-end=\"5357\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5357\" data-end=\"5368\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Oh, I love that one. That’s actually halo-halo.\u003cbr data-start=\"5416\" data-end=\"5419\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5419\" data-end=\"5430\">Savage:\u003c/strong> That’s what that’s called.\u003cbr data-start=\"5457\" data-end=\"5460\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5460\" data-end=\"5471\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> So, it’s a typical Filipino dessert, and they do it extremely well at Sarap Shop because it’s also plant-based…\u003cbr data-start=\"5585\" data-end=\"5588\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5588\" data-end=\"5599\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"5605\" data-end=\"5608\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5608\" data-end=\"5619\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> …but it’s very refreshing, kind of creamy, too, on the creamy side.\u003cbr data-start=\"5689\" data-end=\"5692\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5692\" data-end=\"5703\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah, super creamy.\u003cbr data-start=\"5723\" data-end=\"5726\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5726\" data-end=\"5738\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah. And what about the pricing? Did you feel that was fair?\u003cbr data-start=\"5800\" data-end=\"5803\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5803\" data-end=\"5814\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Actually, I think what you described about the accessibility of the spaces typifies all three of the restaurants we’re talking about today. They all feel very unassuming, but ludicrously welcoming.\u003cbr data-start=\"6024\" data-end=\"6027\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6027\" data-end=\"6039\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"6045\" data-end=\"6048\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6048\" data-end=\"6059\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And all three were incredibly reasonably priced. And I don’t know about you guys —\u003cbr data-start=\"6143\" data-end=\"6146\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6146\" data-end=\"6158\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Which is hard to find these days when you go out to eat.\u003cbr data-start=\"6215\" data-end=\"6218\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6218\" data-end=\"6233\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Yes, it was a bargain. I want to just — They were — That pride of ownership, you can’t fake. You can’t fake it. They were — They just looked, and you’re — “You like that, don’t you? I bet you like that.” [ Laughter ] You can’t fake that, right?\u003cbr data-start=\"6482\" data-end=\"6485\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6485\" data-end=\"6497\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Eagerly awaiting. Right. Eagerly awaiting. I love it. If you would like to try The Sarap Shop, it’s located on Stillman Street in San Francisco’s SoMa neighborhood. The average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $30. Glynn’s pick takes us to a beloved family-run spot where the spirit of nonna’s kitchen lives on. Here, the vibe is just as important as the food — warm, welcoming and rooted in community. Located just steps from Lake Merritt, it’s MAMA Oakland.\u003cbr data-start=\"6978\" data-end=\"6981\">[ Indistinct conversations ]\u003cbr data-start=\"7009\" data-end=\"7012\">♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"7014\" data-end=\"7017\">♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"7019\" data-end=\"7022\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7022\" data-end=\"7036\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> The name of the restaurant is MAMA Oakland ’cause it’s based off of my grandmother, Maria Stacionis. We call her Mama. She was a feisty lady.\u003cbr data-start=\"7178\" data-end=\"7181\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7181\" data-end=\"7195\">Przygocki:\u003c/strong> Okay, guys, this is MAMA’s sugo, tossed with pappardelle, Parmesan cheese, and basil.\u003cbr data-start=\"7281\" data-end=\"7284\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7284\" data-end=\"7298\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> The goal for the service and the vibe at MAMA is to feel like you’re walking into Mama’s house, to feel like, “Oh, my gosh, I’m so glad you’re here.” It feels convivial. It feels warm. It feels comfortable. The entire restaurant is based around the idea of sugo, MAMA’s sugo. It’s like the quintessential Italian American red sauce. Josiah, my business partner and husband, and I had this idea like, “What if we made a restaurant and it just served sugo? And then we were like, “Maybe we need a couple more things than just one dish.”\u003cbr data-start=\"7833\" data-end=\"7836\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7836\" data-end=\"7850\">Przygocki:\u003c/strong> The format of our menu is a three-course prix fixe menu. It changes based off of seasonality. So it’s always gonna have five or six fruits and vegetables that are super prime and ready to go. I am a basil freak. I’m a fennel freak. And anything that is, like, super fatty and delicious. If it’s gonna put me in a coma after I eat it, I want it.\u003cbr data-start=\"8195\" data-end=\"8198\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8198\" data-end=\"8212\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> The signature dish besides sugo is definitely meatballs.\u003cbr data-start=\"8269\" data-end=\"8272\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8272\" data-end=\"8286\">Przygocki:\u003c/strong> The key to a really great meatball is don’t over mix it and make sure that you have enough fat, so we do double pork to beef.\u003cbr data-start=\"8412\" data-end=\"8415\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8415\" data-end=\"8429\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> I remember Mama teaching me how to make meatballs because she’s, like, borderline inappropriate. There was a lot of talk about… manipulating the balls.\u003cbr data-start=\"8583\" data-end=\"8586\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8586\" data-end=\"8600\">Przygocki:\u003c/strong> [ Laughs ]\u003cbr data-start=\"8611\" data-end=\"8614\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8614\" data-end=\"8624\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Mmm!\u003cbr data-start=\"8629\" data-end=\"8632\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8632\" data-end=\"8646\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> It’s your first time here?\u003cbr data-start=\"8673\" data-end=\"8676\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8676\" data-end=\"8686\">Woman:\u003c/strong> It’s our first time here.\u003cbr data-start=\"8712\" data-end=\"8715\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8715\" data-end=\"8729\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> Oh, amazing.\u003cbr data-start=\"8742\" data-end=\"8745\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8745\" data-end=\"8755\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Cheers.\u003cbr data-start=\"8763\" data-end=\"8766\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8766\" data-end=\"8780\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> You go back to your favorite restaurants because, like, oh, you want that one thing, you want that same feeling that you experienced.\u003cbr data-start=\"8914\" data-end=\"8917\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8917\" data-end=\"8931\">Przygocki:\u003c/strong> There are so many people that walk up to me at the line and actually pass me and go directly into the kitchen, and they say, “You guys did a fantastic job. We’re so happy.\u003cbr data-start=\"9103\" data-end=\"9106\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9106\" data-end=\"9120\">Stacionis:\u003c/strong> Mama is up there in heaven. She is having a dance party, she’s drinking wine, and she is stoked. She is so grateful that people come in here and look like they’re at our house having an amazing time.\u003cbr data-start=\"9320\" data-end=\"9323\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9323\" data-end=\"9335\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Glynn, how did you find MAMA?\u003cbr data-start=\"9370\" data-end=\"9373\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9373\" data-end=\"9388\">Washington:\u003c/strong> This is in my neighborhood, the Grand Lake neighborhood of Oakland.\u003cbr data-start=\"9456\" data-end=\"9459\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9459\" data-end=\"9471\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr data-start=\"9478\" data-end=\"9481\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9481\" data-end=\"9496\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I go there a lot, and so they give me the Adam treatment, which is, if I have to wait even a moment, they’ll come out and hand a glass of wine while I’m waiting, which is fabulous. It feels so continental and delicious.\u003cbr data-start=\"9716\" data-end=\"9719\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9719\" data-end=\"9731\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you feel so special.\u003cbr data-start=\"9756\" data-end=\"9759\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9759\" data-end=\"9774\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I feel so special. I was like, “Did I do ‘MythBusters’?” [ Laughter ] I really — It’s really, really great. You want to know the move. This is the move.\u003cbr data-start=\"9928\" data-end=\"9931\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9931\" data-end=\"9943\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, attention. Pro tip. Pro tip.\u003cbr data-start=\"9978\" data-end=\"9981\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"9981\" data-end=\"9992\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Take notes.\u003cbr data-start=\"10004\" data-end=\"10007\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10007\" data-end=\"10018\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"10024\" data-end=\"10027\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10027\" data-end=\"10042\">Washington:\u003c/strong> This is what you do at MAMA’s. MAMA’s is a prix fixe menu.\u003cbr data-start=\"10101\" data-end=\"10104\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10104\" data-end=\"10116\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003cbr data-start=\"10124\" data-end=\"10127\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10127\" data-end=\"10142\">Washington:\u003c/strong> They’re gonna have two different things. They have a soup and a salad. They’re gonna have a pasta dish, and they’re gonna have dessert. You and your companion should get one, and you get the other.\u003cbr data-start=\"10340\" data-end=\"10343\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10343\" data-end=\"10354\">Savage:\u003c/strong> We did the move. We ordered everything on the menu.\u003cbr data-start=\"10406\" data-end=\"10409\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10409\" data-end=\"10424\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Right, right.\u003cbr data-start=\"10438\" data-end=\"10441\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10441\" data-end=\"10452\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And then we split it all. The soup was a gazpacho, which they brought out with some of the ingredients on and then they poured the gazpacho over it. I’m a soup guy.\u003cbr data-start=\"10617\" data-end=\"10620\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10620\" data-end=\"10632\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"10638\" data-end=\"10641\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10641\" data-end=\"10652\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I love any kind of soup. The gazpacho was cold. It was crisp. It was fantastic.\u003cbr data-start=\"10732\" data-end=\"10735\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"10735\" data-end=\"10746\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I also did the Glynn method. I went with my husband, and we decided to just do one of each so we can try everything on the menu. I really remember the crostata. It was just so refreshing. It was just incredible to start off the three-course meal. And then afterwards we had the campanelle pasta. And I loved how that tomato sauce wasn’t very strong. It was nice and light. It’s unique. I don’t think I’ve had a pasta sauce that tasted exactly like that.\u003cbr data-start=\"11200\" data-end=\"11203\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11203\" data-end=\"11214\">Savage:\u003c/strong> The other thing that I particularly loved was the pappardelle. I love just the widest noodle I could possibly get.\u003cbr data-start=\"11329\" data-end=\"11332\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11332\" data-end=\"11344\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Me too.\u003cbr data-start=\"11352\" data-end=\"11355\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11355\" data-end=\"11366\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And the pappardelle was fantastic.\u003cbr data-start=\"11401\" data-end=\"11404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11404\" data-end=\"11416\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And again, these rotate and they change, so you —\u003cbr data-start=\"11467\" data-end=\"11470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11470\" data-end=\"11485\">Washington:\u003c/strong> You never know. You never know.\u003cbr data-start=\"11517\" data-end=\"11520\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11520\" data-end=\"11531\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> That’s why you got to keep going.\u003cbr data-start=\"11565\" data-end=\"11568\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11568\" data-end=\"11580\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s right.\u003cbr data-start=\"11594\" data-end=\"11597\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11597\" data-end=\"11608\">Savage:\u003c/strong> There’s something I really loved about the add-ons which was unique.\u003cbr data-start=\"11677\" data-end=\"11680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11680\" data-end=\"11692\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So you can order the prix fixe, but then do the add-ons, like $10 more for meatballs and things like.\u003cbr data-start=\"11794\" data-end=\"11797\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11797\" data-end=\"11808\">Savage:\u003c/strong> The add-ons were where the savory arrived. Like, the dishes themselves were a little more on the sweet and vegetable side.\u003cbr data-start=\"11931\" data-end=\"11934\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11934\" data-end=\"11946\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Interesting.\u003cbr data-start=\"11959\" data-end=\"11962\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"11962\" data-end=\"11973\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And then the add-ons delivered this wonderful savory note for all the other dishes.\u003cbr data-start=\"12057\" data-end=\"12060\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12060\" data-end=\"12072\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr data-start=\"12079\" data-end=\"12082\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12082\" data-end=\"12097\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I’ll say this. You got to get the meatballs.\u003cbr data-start=\"12142\" data-end=\"12145\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12145\" data-end=\"12156\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Bingo.\u003cbr data-start=\"12163\" data-end=\"12166\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12166\" data-end=\"12181\">Washington:\u003c/strong> You have to get the meatballs.\u003cbr data-start=\"12212\" data-end=\"12215\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12215\" data-end=\"12227\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I was waiting for that.\u003cbr data-start=\"12251\" data-end=\"12254\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12254\" data-end=\"12269\">Washington:\u003c/strong> The meatballs are like — The meatballs are not an add-on. You have to order —\u003cbr data-start=\"12349\" data-end=\"12352\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12352\" data-end=\"12363\">Savage:\u003c/strong> It’s true.\u003cbr data-start=\"12374\" data-end=\"12377\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12377\" data-end=\"12392\">Washington:\u003c/strong> They’re meatballs.\u003cbr data-start=\"12411\" data-end=\"12414\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12414\" data-end=\"12426\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Again, pro tip.\u003cbr data-start=\"12442\" data-end=\"12445\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12445\" data-end=\"12460\">Washington:\u003c/strong> The meatballs are part of the meal, and the focaccia and the sauce of whatever pasta dish you do, you’ve got to do one of these numbers a lot. You got to do that, yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"12629\" data-end=\"12632\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12632\" data-end=\"12644\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah. Okay, what about dessert?\u003cbr data-start=\"12676\" data-end=\"12679\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12679\" data-end=\"12690\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Wait, wait, wait. Before we get to dessert, there was a palate cleanser.\u003cbr data-start=\"12763\" data-end=\"12766\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12766\" data-end=\"12778\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh!\u003cbr data-start=\"12782\" data-end=\"12785\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12785\" data-end=\"12796\">Savage:\u003c/strong> They brought us some little ball of lemon granitas in some cherry syrup.\u003cbr data-start=\"12869\" data-end=\"12872\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12872\" data-end=\"12884\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you guys get that treatment?!\u003cbr data-start=\"12918\" data-end=\"12921\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12921\" data-end=\"12936\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I don’t know what happened.\u003cbr data-start=\"12964\" data-end=\"12967\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"12967\" data-end=\"12978\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I was not informed.\u003cbr data-start=\"12998\" data-end=\"13001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13001\" data-end=\"13016\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Again. It keeps happening, and I’m against the whole thing. I don’t appreciate what is going down here. I do not appreciate it. No lemon granitas in cherry syrup.\u003cbr data-start=\"13179\" data-end=\"13182\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13182\" data-end=\"13194\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> “It’s Adam Savage! We got to bring him something!”\u003cbr data-start=\"13245\" data-end=\"13248\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13248\" data-end=\"13263\">Washington:\u003c/strong> It’s outrageous. [ Laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"13293\" data-end=\"13296\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13296\" data-end=\"13308\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, go ahead, VIP. [ Laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"13342\" data-end=\"13345\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13345\" data-end=\"13356\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Tell us what else we don’t know.\u003cbr data-start=\"13389\" data-end=\"13392\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13392\" data-end=\"13403\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Well, I thought the foot rub was a great ending to the meal. [ Laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"13477\" data-end=\"13480\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13480\" data-end=\"13492\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ooh. So?\u003cbr data-start=\"13501\" data-end=\"13504\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13504\" data-end=\"13515\">Savage:\u003c/strong> The desserts were spectacular.\u003cbr data-start=\"13546\" data-end=\"13549\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13549\" data-end=\"13561\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, which one did you have?\u003cbr data-start=\"13591\" data-end=\"13594\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13594\" data-end=\"13605\">Savage:\u003c/strong> There was a chocolate and a cheesecake. I ate most of the cheesecake. My wife ate most of the chocolate.\u003cbr data-start=\"13710\" data-end=\"13713\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13713\" data-end=\"13725\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> There you go. That sounds fair.\u003cbr data-start=\"13757\" data-end=\"13760\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"13760\" data-end=\"13771\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I had both as well, and what I really appreciated about the cheesecake is — I’m typically not a cheesecake fan. To me, most of the time, it’s just too rich and just too much. Like, one bite, that’s good enough for me. But I almost finished the entire plate and then took it away from my husband. And it was just so good. I felt like the berries that they added on top gave it a nice touch to kind of balance the flavor so it wasn’t, like, kind of too much. And then the chocolate — I don’t know if it was, like, a mousse. That was also rich and creamy and very delicious. And the portions are perfect.\u003cbr data-start=\"14375\" data-end=\"14378\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14378\" data-end=\"14393\">Washington:\u003c/strong> When I was there, I guess they called it the end of the stone fruit season. And so I had an apricot something or another deliciousness that they whipped up. It was fantastic. I think whenever you go there — They’re not gonna have that. That’s gonna be gone because they’ve moved on.\u003cbr data-start=\"14677\" data-end=\"14680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14680\" data-end=\"14692\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But there’ll be two other choices.\u003cbr data-start=\"14727\" data-end=\"14730\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14730\" data-end=\"14745\">Washington:\u003c/strong> There’ll be two other choices, and they’re gonna be delicious as well. It’s like, I trust these people.\u003cbr data-start=\"14849\" data-end=\"14852\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14852\" data-end=\"14863\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"14869\" data-end=\"14872\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14872\" data-end=\"14887\">Washington:\u003c/strong> At least, I did before Adam got the special situation going on there. [ Laughter ]\u003cbr data-start=\"14970\" data-end=\"14973\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"14973\" data-end=\"14985\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> He’s got this down. I can’t wait to hear about the next restaurant. Alright, if you would like to try MAMA Oakland, it’s located on Grand Avenue in Oakland’s Lake Merritt neighborhood, and the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $60.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"12\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Adam’s pick is a cozy spot where the scent of masa and melting cheese has filled the air for more than 35 years. It’s a Salvadoran restaurant where handmade pupusas and other Latin American specialties keep generations of diners — and Adam — coming back for more. Located in San Francisco’s Mission District, it’s Panchita’s Pupuseria & Restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"flex max-w-full flex-col grow\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"min-h-8 text-message relative flex w-full flex-col items-end gap-2 text-start break-words whitespace-normal [.text-message+&]:mt-1\" dir=\"auto\" data-message-author-role=\"assistant\" data-message-id=\"a80d708a-6018-49bc-b125-2f88965c7a65\" data-message-model-slug=\"gpt-5-1\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"flex w-full flex-col gap-1 empty:hidden first:pt-[1px]\">\n\u003cdiv class=\"markdown prose dark:prose-invert w-full break-words light markdown-new-styling\">\n\u003cp data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"9092\" data-is-last-node=\"\" data-is-only-node=\"\">♪♪\u003cbr data-start=\"368\" data-end=\"371\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"371\" data-end=\"381\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Thank you.\u003cbr data-start=\"392\" data-end=\"395\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"395\" data-end=\"406\">Campos:\u003c/strong> El Salvador is the house of pupusas. And the pupusa is fresh masa with any kind of meat or vegetable inside. And we roll it and grill it. The pupusa you can eat anytime, in the morning, in the afternoon, at night. That’s the good thing to pupusas. My mother started Panchita’s in 1976. We started with nothing. Every day we buy everything and we sell it and we buy again and we sell it and we buy again. That’s the way we started. But in 1989, I opened my own Panchita’s. This is Panchita’s #2. Everybody asks me, “How do you make those so good pupusas?” So, my mother showed me how to do those really good pupusas. That’s spinach. That’s cheese. I always tell everybody this is my mother’s recipe. That’s like my legado. Here in Panchita’s, we have our 30 kinds of pupusas. I added every year one different kind. These ones are good. My favorite thing in the menu is the sopa de gallina. Every day it’s fresh, and the gallina is the mother of the chicken. That’s why the soup is so good. [ Up-tempo guitar music plays ] I really like this place. Always here for people who really need job, food. People who are hungry, this is the place to come in. My two daughters — they are really working hard. I want to see this next generation and still pupusas will be here.\u003cbr data-start=\"1673\" data-end=\"1676\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1676\" data-end=\"1686\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Oh, my God!\u003cbr data-start=\"1698\" data-end=\"1701\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1712\">Campos:\u003c/strong> I never be tired to eating pupusas. I hope you, too. [ Laughs ] Ooh! [ Laughs ]\u003cbr data-start=\"1792\" data-end=\"1795\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1795\" data-end=\"1807\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Adam, it sounds like you’ve been living in the Mission as long as the restaurant has been open, right?\u003cbr data-start=\"1919\" data-end=\"1922\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1922\" data-end=\"1933\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Pretty much.\u003cbr data-start=\"1946\" data-end=\"1949\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1949\" data-end=\"1961\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"1967\" data-end=\"1970\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1970\" data-end=\"1981\">Savage:\u003c/strong> So, Panchita’s has been a part of my entire Mission journey since 1990 in San Francisco. I eat there maybe once a week. I’ve taken heads of state and astronauts there. I love that the interior is weirdly painted trompe l’oeil, almost like a favela, right?\u003cbr data-start=\"2237\" data-end=\"2240\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2240\" data-end=\"2252\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"2258\" data-end=\"2261\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2261\" data-end=\"2272\">Savage:\u003c/strong> With, like, corrugated roofing and hurricane fencing, but it’s all trompe l’oeil.\u003cbr data-start=\"2354\" data-end=\"2357\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2357\" data-end=\"2369\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"2375\" data-end=\"2378\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2378\" data-end=\"2389\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And the pupusas are just one of my main comfort-food dishes.\u003cbr data-start=\"2450\" data-end=\"2453\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2453\" data-end=\"2465\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And it’s one of the best words to say, isn’t it? Everybody say it.\u003cbr data-start=\"2532\" data-end=\"2535\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2535\" data-end=\"2543\">All:\u003c/strong> Pupusas.\u003cbr data-start=\"2552\" data-end=\"2555\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2555\" data-end=\"2566\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"2571\" data-end=\"2574\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2574\" data-end=\"2586\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s a great word to say.\u003cbr data-start=\"2612\" data-end=\"2615\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2615\" data-end=\"2626\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Totally. Now, the main thing about a pupusa is that you want to eat it with the slaw and the red sauce. And you got to dump the slaw on, and then you drown it in the red sauce, which is not super spicy. And my favorite pupusa is the mixed, which is pork and vegetables with the cheese. It’s like a little bit of everything I want in my meal.\u003cbr data-start=\"2968\" data-end=\"2971\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2971\" data-end=\"2983\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And that lovely masa, yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3011\" data-end=\"3014\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3014\" data-end=\"3025\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And then I always — I love their plátanos, the plantains with the crema and the refried beans, right?\u003cbr data-start=\"3128\" data-end=\"3131\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3131\" data-end=\"3143\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Uh, over here. I can feel — I feel Glynn going, “This is it.”\u003cbr data-start=\"3206\" data-end=\"3209\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3209\" data-end=\"3224\">Washington:\u003c/strong> This is the move. This is the move. I don’t know from pupusas. I don’t. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. But I do know from plantains, and these were some good plantains right here, just the crisp but sweet. You’ve got the avocado, the sour cream right there. You can kind of like get a little bit of it all in one bite. Boom! It was like — That was my favorite aspect of the meal.\u003cbr data-start=\"3602\" data-end=\"3605\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3605\" data-end=\"3616\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"3622\" data-end=\"3625\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3625\" data-end=\"3637\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What about you, Ruby?\u003cbr data-start=\"3659\" data-end=\"3662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3662\" data-end=\"3673\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> I just fell in love with the pupusa. So, I’ve only had a handful of pupusas so far in my life, but, hands down, the mushroom and garlic one that I had at Panchita’s has to be for me, my personal opinion, the best pupusas I’ve ever had. And it was just creamy, cheesy. The mushrooms inside were seasoned very well. I appreciate it also how there was a nice kind of char on the outside of the pupusas. I think there was also some excess cheese, which gave it a nice crisp, so when you bit into it, I’m like, “Oh, my gosh, this is so good.”\u003cbr data-start=\"4211\" data-end=\"4214\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4214\" data-end=\"4226\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Is there really excess cheese, though?\u003cbr data-start=\"4265\" data-end=\"4268\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4268\" data-end=\"4279\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> You can never have too much cheese.\u003cbr data-start=\"4315\" data-end=\"4318\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4318\" data-end=\"4330\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You can never have too much cheese.\u003cbr data-start=\"4366\" data-end=\"4369\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4369\" data-end=\"4384\">Washington:\u003c/strong> I got the pupusa you mentioned, the mushroom, and I got a pork and beef one. This was not sitting in the back somewhere. They made that for me like 30 seconds before they put it on the plate, which was really, really wonderful. And I just loved it.\u003cbr data-start=\"4633\" data-end=\"4636\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4636\" data-end=\"4647\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> And this was another restaurant, I think, out of the three that we’ve had where, again, it felt like home. It felt like community. And for me growing up, me and my family didn’t eat a lot of restaurants. We usually ate at home. So when I go to restaurants like Panchita’s and it gives you a sense of home, that sense of, like, home-cooked meals…\u003cbr data-start=\"4995\" data-end=\"4998\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4998\" data-end=\"5010\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr data-start=\"5017\" data-end=\"5020\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5020\" data-end=\"5031\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> …I just love that. And it has that nostalgic feel to it.\u003cbr data-start=\"5090\" data-end=\"5093\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5104\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I’ve eaten at a lot of great restaurants where I felt just like a customer.\u003cbr data-start=\"5180\" data-end=\"5183\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5183\" data-end=\"5195\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"5201\" data-end=\"5204\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5204\" data-end=\"5215\">Savage:\u003c/strong> And in all three of the places that we ate, I felt like I was being fed by people whose joy was feeding.\u003cbr data-start=\"5320\" data-end=\"5323\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5323\" data-end=\"5338\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003cbr data-start=\"5343\" data-end=\"5346\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5346\" data-end=\"5357\">Savage:\u003c/strong> Right? 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It was just — It was really — I don’t — I don’t know that I’ve ever had something quite like that before.\u003cbr data-start=\"5977\" data-end=\"5980\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5980\" data-end=\"5992\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr data-start=\"5998\" data-end=\"6001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6001\" data-end=\"6016\">Washington:\u003c/strong> It was really wonderful.\u003cbr data-start=\"6041\" data-end=\"6044\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6044\" data-end=\"6055\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I usually have their Mexican wedding cookies as a dessert. I’ve never tried that. I’m gonna have to.\u003cbr data-start=\"6156\" data-end=\"6159\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6159\" data-end=\"6171\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You’ve never tried it in all the years you’ve been there?\u003cbr data-start=\"6229\" data-end=\"6232\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6232\" data-end=\"6247\">Washington:\u003c/strong> They only brought it out for me. It’s not available in stores because…\u003cbr data-start=\"6320\" data-end=\"6323\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6323\" data-end=\"6335\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The win goes to Glynn.\u003cbr data-start=\"6358\" data-end=\"6361\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6361\" data-end=\"6376\">Washington:\u003c/strong> Right, right. In the end, yes.\u003cbr data-start=\"6407\" data-end=\"6410\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6410\" data-end=\"6421\">Savage:\u003c/strong> I did want to mention their horchata. They have agua frescas and they revolve and they’re seasonal. I’m particularly addicted to horchata. I love — And theirs has —\u003cbr data-start=\"6588\" data-end=\"6591\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6591\" data-end=\"6603\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Talk about texture. It’s really about texture.\u003cbr data-start=\"6650\" data-end=\"6653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6653\" data-end=\"6664\">Savage:\u003c/strong> It is texture, and their horchata has a little grit to it, which I want. 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Another inside tip right there when you go back. If you would like to try Panchita’s Pupuseria & Restaurant, it’s located on 16th Street in San Francisco’s Mission District. The average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $30.\u003cbr data-start=\"7645\" data-end=\"7648\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7648\" data-end=\"7660\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Looking for more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try?\u003cbr data-start=\"7716\" data-end=\"7719\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7719\" data-end=\"7732\">Phillips:\u003c/strong> [ Laughs ]\u003cbr data-start=\"7743\" data-end=\"7746\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7746\" data-end=\"7758\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Check out “Cecilia Tries It” online at kqed.org/checkplease. I have to thank my fabulous guests on this week’s show — Adam Savage, who practically nosedives into the red sauce at Panchita’s Pupuseria & Restaurant in San Francisco, Ruby Ibarra, who loves the vegan twist on Filipino favorites at the Sarap Shop in San Francisco, and Glynn Washington, whose home away from home just might be MAMA Oakland. Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers. And cheers to you.\u003cbr data-start=\"8351\" data-end=\"8354\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8354\" data-end=\"8365\">Ibarra:\u003c/strong> Cheers.\u003cbr data-start=\"8373\" data-end=\"8376\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8376\" data-end=\"8388\">Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What do you think of the places we featured today? 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 20, episode 9, airs Thursday, October 30, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week, we’re serving up serious flavor with the Golden State Warriors players as they dish on their favorite San Francisco restaurants! Our all-star lineup kicks off at \u003cstrong>North Beach Restaurant\u003c/strong>, a historic Italian restaurant with vintage elegance featuring housemade pastas and other standouts including hearty, creamy lasagna bolognese and classic chicken al mattone. Next, our guests head to \u003cstrong>House of Nanking\u003c/strong> in Chinatown, a beloved institution since the 1980s where the Fang family dishes out Chinese American favorites. Warriors guests praise the house sizzling fried rice and Nanking’s sesame chicken, longtime fan favorite dishes. Finally, \u003cstrong>Bon Délire\u003c/strong> on the Embarcadero delivers traditional French comfort with a modern twist, from buttery steak frites to their rich and tender duck confit, a tribute to owner Kais Boudizi’s Parisian roots. Reporter Cecilia Phillips wraps up the episode at the \u003cstrong>Chase Center\u003c/strong>, where she digs into what Dub Nation is eating and soaks up the vibrant community energy surrounding the evolving food scene at the home of the Warriors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23627\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23627 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Guests.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Guests.png 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Guests-160x90.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Guests-768x432.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Guests-1536x864.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Trayce Jackson-Davis, Festus Ezeli and Adonal Foyle from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.northbeachrestaurant.com/\">\u003cstrong>North Beach Restaurant\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.houseofnankingsf.com/\">\u003cstrong>House of Nanking\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bondeliresf.com/\">\u003cstrong>Bon Délire \u003c/strong>(San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.chasecenter.com/thrive-city/shops/\">\u003cstrong>Chase Center \u003c/strong>(San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! 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Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23630\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-2000x2476.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"2476\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-2000x2476.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-160x198.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-768x951.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-1241x1536.jpg 1241w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-1655x2048.jpg 1655w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"https://griffodistillery.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Griffo Distillery, Scott Street Gin\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>Petaluma, California $36\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>You don’t have to look too far in the Bay Area for handcrafted spirits that shine, but Griffo Distillery is a hidden gem that just so happens to hail from my hometown of Petaluma in Sonoma County. This world-class, highly awarded gin just won the title of America’s Greatest London Dry Gin 2025 by the Gin Guild.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Griffo crafts several styles of gin (and some delicious vodka and whiskey, too), but the Scott Street Gin is my jam. I adore the smooth texture and delicate balance of botanicals, making for an ideal gin and tonic. Distilled in a single run, the sophisticated 92-proof spirit captures the herbal essence of wild juniper and coriander with a citrusy ping from Sonoma-grown Meyer lemons. Headed to Wine Country? Griffo is a fun spot to visit before or after hitting the wineries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.gloriaferrer.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">\u003cstrong>Gloria Ferrer 2021 “Cremoso” Sparkling Wine\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Carneros, Sonoma County, California $85\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>When I first tasted this wine, I was impressed with its unique style and succulent deliciousness. I am a dedicated bubble lover and appreciate different expressions of sparkling. This is one you don’t want to put down. The Cremoso is luxurious to sip, as it’s made in a crémant (creamy) style. This accounts for the lower pressure, creating bubbles that are silky smooth on the palate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A blend of Chardonnay, Pinot Noir and a dash of Pinot Blanc grapes combine to give complexity to the finished wine. With a balance of acidity and sweetness, its fruit-driven, floral aromas are layered with a finish that glides on your palate. A perfect wine to end a meal with cheese or light desserts, due to its whisper of sweetness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://kutchwines.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">\u003cstrong>Kutch Falstaff Vineyard 2024 Pinot Noir\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Sonoma Coast, California $69\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>Pinot Noir is called the “heartbreak grape” for a reason. The variety is highly particular about where it’s planted, needing just the right soils and climate to create world-class wines. Pinot Noir’s home is in Burgundy, France, but it’s grown in a handful of cool-climate areas around the world. Some say seeking pinot perfection is nearly impossible. But in the talented hands of winemaker Jamie Kutch, that perfection is a reality.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A boutique Sonoma producer celebrating its 20th anniversary, Kutch’s single-vineyard wines are coveted by pinot lovers globally. Kutch’s 2024 Falstaff Vineyard Pinot Noir is perfect. Hailing from a cold vineyard site planted only eight miles from the Pacific Ocean, the vines thrive in the sandy loam marine soils. Elegance, purity and balance are the words that define this wine. As you sip, red berry fruit aromas hit you first, then earthy undertones appear, followed by racy acidity and a silky texture. Nothing is out of place. That’s Pinot Perfection.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> From old-school Italian…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Sounds kind of weird, but it was really, really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …to classic Chinese comforts…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> You kind of discover the mystery inside. …and bistro bites by the Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> I was like, I need that. I need all of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The Golden State Warriors give us their favorite San Francisco hangouts just ahead on a special \u003ci>Check, Please! Bay Area:\u003c/i>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I feel like this is going to guarantee some swishes tonight. [indistinct conversations]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Do you find that the energy is different at the end? Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003ci>Check, Please! Bay Area:\u003c/i>,” the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. [music playing] This time we’re “banging the boards” with members of the Golden State Warriors organization, the Bay Area’s beloved NBA team. Former center Adonal Foyle played ten seasons with the Warriors from 1997 to 2007, and is the team’s all-time leader in blocked shots. Whoo! [clapping]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Whoo!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> In the years since his retirement, he’s become a political activist, philanthropist, and sports analyst, and commentator.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Announcer:\u003c/strong> Jarrett Jack — the lob! And Ezeli!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And former center Festus Ezeli played four seasons with the Warriors and helped the team win the 2015 NBA Championship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> A-ha! [clapping]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Like Adonal, he’s now a seasoned sports commentator and also a big time foodie who’s gaining a following with his “Festus Feasts,” social media channel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Announcer:\u003c/strong> The feed and the finish!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And center Trayce Jackson-Davis, whose father also played in the NBA, is a rising young star for the Warriors. He made his debut during the 2023-24 season, when he became the first Warrior rookie to lead the team in blocked shots since… Festus in 2013. [laughter and applause] A lot of blocking going on right here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Yes, it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, welcome y’all. Thank you for having us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> We’re excited. Let’s talk food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Let’s talk food!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Let’s do it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> For nearly half a century, Adonal’s spot has been a cornerstone of San Francisco’s rich Italian dining tradition, offering classic Tuscan cucina and house-made vino. It’s his go-to for great meals and even better memories with friends. Nestled in the heart of San Francisco’s North Beach neighborhood, it’s the iconic North Beach Restaurant. [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Francesco Covucci:\u003c/strong> North Beach Restaurant is the classic Italian restaurant. Una Tagliatelle Bolognese. You come here and from the minute that you walk in, you want to be part of the family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Francesco Covucci:\u003c/strong> How are we doing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Good thank, you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Francesco Covucci:\u003c/strong> Hi, there. Mwah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> It’s so good to see you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Francesco Covucci:\u003c/strong> North Beach Restaurant opened in 1970 by Lorenzo Petroni. And Bruno Orsi, he was the chef. Zucchini flower. North Beach Restaurant has been around for over 54 years. And now we’re here to keep the legacy and tradition going. [music playing] The menu is an Tuscan with an influence of Emilia-Romagna. We do the Bolognese with a recipe 100 years old, the tortellini, one by one, tortelloni, the lasagna, which are seven layers of lasagna. We have an amazing Mediterranean branzino we butterfly. Very simple, but very nice. Very healthy. [music playing] The old school dish like the pasta della casa when we took over the restaurant. I’ve been having people send me e-mails. Do whatever you want, but do not change the pasta della casa recipe. Ah, Mayor Brown. Welcome back. North Beach Restaurant has been such a tradition. We have in a lot of celebrities, a lot of artists, a lot of politicians. Right now, we see a lot of restaurants that they’re doing the fast casual. At North Beach Restaurant, the guests, what they enjoy the most is a laid back experience. They like to stay a long time. You hear the people say, “Oh, we stayed for an hour at the dinner table. We finish at midnight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Salute!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Francesco Covucci:\u003c/strong> [speaking indistinctly] We love to make you feel like to be in Italy without taking overseas flights. [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Adonal, this is really a mainstay of classic San Francisco restaurants. I’ve been going there for almost 20-something years, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Really?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> I mean, the atmosphere in that place is incredible. There is incredible wine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> You know, my favorite is the chicken mattone. [chicken sizzling] It’s just perfect when it comes to the table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Juicy, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Juicy. And, you know, with a nice glass of wine. I mean, how could you go wrong?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And their wine list is great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> And their wine list is amazing. [laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Their wine list is Italian, Italian, Italian. All right, Trayce, what did you have? Did you start with something like an appetizer or a salad?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I started with just the potato soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> And, um… The way that the dish came out, I mean, I’ve never had — There was like a pomegranate puree in the soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Which sounds kind of weird, but it was really, really good. But I think my favorite dish was the lasagna just because it’s classic. The way that they had the parmesan on top, it was almost crusted over. It was delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> And lasagna is one of those things that’s a staple. It’s like red sauce on pasta.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Like, if you make it well there, then you know that the food there is really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> The amazing thing about this place, because it’s been around for so long, almost anything that you try is going to be good because the chef’s been doing it for a very long time. So the veal, absolutely exquisite. I mean, it’s tasty, but I think, you know —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Veal is tricky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> It’s very tricky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s very tricky to get it right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> And it’s not everybody could do it. But I mean, they make it so perfectly. I mean, so you go there and you just look at the waiter and you say, “Just bring me something amazing.” That’s what I say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I’m in your hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Just bring me something amazing. I’m in your care. [laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I’m in your hands. That’s right, that’s right. That’s all you have to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> When I go, I just say, “Do what you do for Adonal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> There you go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Whatever you make him smile like that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Not the bill, though! [all laugh]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You throw Adonal’s name in and you’re going to get places. And did you have anything else, Trayce?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I had a Bolognese, which was really good. It’s another classic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I was with one of my buddies, and he thought it was his favorite dish, but just the meat sauce and how it was the noodles. You can tell that they were freshly made and I’m kind of a foodie myself. And so I know that when you make pasta fresh, you only boil it for about 2 to 3 minutes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> And so… It changes everything. [all cheering] [indistinct] I love it!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> I learned something new.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s true. I make my own. Listen, at the holiday time I’m known for homemade raviolis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Really?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> What?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So we do the whole thing, you know, make the dough and cut them by hand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Which holiday is this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> We’re coming over.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Come to my house. I’ll put you to work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> You don’t want me your kitchen. You don’t want me anywhere near it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> He’s gonna eat everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Well, or burn everything down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What did you get for dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Uh, we got a tiramisu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Ooh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Yes, it was perfect. Just layered with alcohol the way we like it, but it was delicious. Melted in your mouth, and I would definitely go back for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, well, I’m going to go with you three. We’re going to all go together. Okay? If you would like to try North Beach Restaurant, it’s located on Stockton Street in San Francisco, and the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $75. Festus’s restaurant is another classic in the San Francisco culinary scene, with dishes like their famed sesame chicken and crispy potstickers, the Fang family has created a beacon for Chinese comfort food ever since they opened in 1988. Located in San Francisco’s Chinatown. It’s House of Nanking. [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kathy Fang:\u003c/strong> House of Nanking, when you walk in is loud, it’s boisterous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Patrons:\u003c/strong> Whoa! We’re all yelling at each other. The service is very curt and quick, and you come in and you’re like, “Okay, hm. Interesting.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Mmm!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kathy Fang:\u003c/strong> But then once you taste our food, I think everything settles in and you realize, “Wow, this is a special place.” My parents, Peter and Lily, opened this restaurant back in 1988. I was 7 years old and I was always tasting my dad’s food first because I’m right there and I’ll give it to you blunt, because I’m a child. I don’t know how to lie. And it was just like the best culinary work experience ever. [music playing] Cuisine here we like to say it’s Chinese food, but with a twist. We make all of our sauces in-house. When people think of House of Nanking, I would say 95% always think about the sesame chicken, because it’s the one dish that put my dad on the map. He decided that he wanted to make his own version of an orange chicken, but my dad didn’t like how it was heavily battered. So he changed it, made it so that it was very lightly battered, and he made it a little less sweet. And then he paired it with sweet potato. Chinese people don’t really cook with sweet potato, but he said, “Americans love sweet potato with turkey.” And he’s like, “Why not do chicken and sweet potato?” Our sizzling fried rice is one of our most iconic dishes. It’s super aromatic. It’s smoky. You’ve got deliciousness. You’ve got a show. I mean, what’s not to love about it? [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Peter Fang:\u003c/strong> Don’t tell me what you’re thinking. [laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kathy Fang:\u003c/strong> When people think House of Nanking, they think of the older gentleman who likes to tell you what to eat or won’t let you order off the menu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Peter Fang:\u003c/strong> If you trust me, I’ll bring you a couple of things to share.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kathy Fang:\u003c/strong> My dad’s so — it’s, like, ingrained in him that he’s like, that’s what I want to do. I want to take care of the people who come in. Let me decide. Let me take care of you. That’s the way to do it here at the restaurant. I think the longevity of all of this is because of my parents. I don’t know if they could do anything else besides this. Now, for me, I want to continue their legacy. And I also love it. Like, this is my whole world. I meet all kinds of people. And people love our restaurant so it’s a happy place. [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. Festus, “Festus Feasts.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> “Festus Feasts,” Yes. Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right? How did you become such a lover of food?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Uh, it’s really the Bay area. There’s so much great food here. So I really wanted to bring a lot of love with the platform that we have as basketball players. We have fans that follow us. So I wanted to bring those people to the local restaurants to support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you chose House of Nanking. Why is that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yes. Oh my gosh. First off, I love the story. Immigrant family comes here and makes a name for themselves, and they build this staple in the community that really feeds everybody. But the food there is incredible, that’s why.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And there’s a lot of food. It’s a big menu, isn’t it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Oh man, I go there specifically — Just trust me. The fish soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> First time I heard it, it sounded weird. I was like, I don’t know if this is what I can do, but I asked them and they said, “You have to get this.” And when I got it, it was — It comes in this big container. It’s still on the fire. They keep it going the whole time. It has everything in there. It has, obviously it’s fish in there, but the broth, it is so good. [sbrocco laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> It’s so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It has you dreaming about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Oh, I still think — I’m thinking about it now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, did you have any fish soup, Adonal? I didn’t — I didn’t dare try the fish soup. [laughter] Like, I wanted to kind of get a sense of it. And so I told the chef I was like, “You know, treat me like, you know, I’m new here and I don’t know what’s happening and just surprise me with your greatness.” And, you know, five meals later, it was absolutely incredible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, I have to do that, sort of chef’s special.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> The chef’s special is amazing. [laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And tell me one of the favorite things that you had, Adonal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> They had a short ribs and it was tender, a little fried and hard on the outside. It was so exquisite. And you’re eating it and you just feel like, “You know what? “My mama could make this.” And it’s like the atmosphere in that place is almost like that nonchalant. It’s like, “Our food is good. We don’t have to have a pretty building, just eat!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yes! Yes!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> [laughing] I love it!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> That’s why I liked it. They’re like, “Yo. Our food is good. Hey, sit down over there. We’ll just figure it out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> There’s a long line out the door. We’ve gotta check them out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> [laughing] Exactly!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What about your experience?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> My experience was great. I mean, when I went, it was probably like, 6:30-7, but it was packed. I mean, people literally waiting outside in lines. And so I think that just tells you about the culture that they have and about their food. [pan sizzling] My favorite dish was probably the fried rice. And it’s just because he was cooking in front of us, and it’s like a huge tower. And then they pour the egg around it and they start sauteing it, almost like you’re at a hibachi restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> That’s true. That’s amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> We had the pork dumplings as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Ooh, yeah. The pork dumplings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> They’re good! You know the sauce in the pork dumplings? I would take the sauce and I’d put it on the fried rice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yo, you did it right!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Come on now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> You did it right. That’s a pro. That’s a pro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s a tip. That’s a pro tip. An insider tip you will only get on \u003ci>Check, Please! Bay Area:\u003c/i>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> That’s a pro right there. I didn’t even have to say nothing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You nailed that. Okay, talk a little bit about the dumplings. Are you a dumpling fan too?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> I love dumplings. Anything where meat is wrapped in dough. [laughter] Meat pies, dumplings. Anything like that, for me, is great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Every culture has a type of dumplings. Yeah, absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> And it’s so amazing, right? Because it’s moist and it’s like you kind of discover the mystery inside. I mean, I think that what makes the food so unique is that you can tell the care that it’s taken to prepare. And each of them is so amazing in its own way, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Any y’all do the sesame chicken?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I should’ve. I should’ve.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> You really is thinking about the sesame chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yo, I need, like, the sweet and savory together in one dish. The sesame chicken is — I — that was one of my favorites as well, because that’s what I also eat with the rice if I want to. If I’m feeling a little freaky, I want to mix the sesame chicken with the fried rice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> “Festus Feasts Freaky.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> [laughing] Freaky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> I don’t know. It’s like “Festus Feasts After Dark.” I don’t know if we’re ready for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> That’s his freaky place. [laughter]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I love that. So what about service?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> I was there at like 12:00, in the 12:00 session. I think what was interesting, there wasn’t a lot of people there, but the service is almost — I call it like laissez-faire. But it was, like, so awesome because they do pay attention, just not hover. So I was like, okay, I like that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah. Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> They’re there. But they just — they want you to enjoy the food. -Sbrocco: Yeah. -Jackson-Davis: I agree 100%. Another thing, just shout-out to — we call her Mama. So she was there and she’s just kind of going around. It’s like you’re in her home and she’s just serving everyone if you need something. And then — it was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> They’re definitely a staple in the community. I love them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Absolutely. Alright, if you would like to try House of Nanking, it’s located on Kearny Street in San Francisco, and the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $40. Trayce is a relative newcomer to the city, so it’s pretty fitting he chose a hip new bistro as his local escape. Boasting both bay and bridge views, it’s the perfect place to indulge in Parisian classics. Located in Pier 3 along San Francisco’s Embarcadero, it’s Bon Délire. [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Patrick Thillard:\u003c/strong> “Bon délire” means a lot of things. You know, in France, when you go to restaurants, the vibe, the music, the smell. If the place is good, It’s called “bon délire.” [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vernon Morales:\u003c/strong> As far as technique, we stick to the classics, but we try to just do it a little better than the normal. We have the farmers market a stone’s throw away. I go there every Saturday, every Tuesday, and we get fresh product. We have a special board, a chalkboard that is constantly changing, and we have some fun with that. The steak frites that we have at Bon Délire, we use two cuts. One is prime New York, and the other one is onglet, which is the hanger steak. We finish it with a little butter, thyme, and garlic. This actually helps us infuse the flavor of the thyme a little bit into the meat. It’s rich. It’s got a beautiful texture. The sauce is a classic French sauce — au poivre. We use three kinds of peppercorns and a little bit of brandy, a little cream, a lot of love.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Patrick Thillard:\u003c/strong> The sauce au poivre — the chef make it. It’s fabulous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vernon Morales:\u003c/strong> I’m sorry, what did you say again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Patrick Thillard:\u003c/strong> It’s fabulous. Honestly, it’s fabulous. [music playing] It’s a brasserie. This was the most important for us to have the bar, central bar. The top of the bar, it’s zinc from France. When you sit at the bar, you can see everything. When you go to the good restaurant and you have a good night. It’s not just about the food experience. It’s everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vernon Morales:\u003c/strong> The staff will get caught up in the energy. We’ll have a little bit of fun with the guests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Patrick Thillard:\u003c/strong> When the customer leave, automatically they remember the place. All the time they think about, “Oh, this restaurant was bon délire.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vernon Morales:\u003c/strong> [chuckles]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Trayce, how did you find this place?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I’m a newcomer, and I’m kind of in that Gen Z, like, media. So I actually found it on TikTok.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> There you go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> So…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You actually found it on “Festus Feasts.” [laughter]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Exactly. But when I walked into the place and you see the circle bar, and they’re playing movies on the wall, and the deejay and the vinyls that they have, it was amazing to see, like, a modern twist on French cuisine. And, obviously, when you go French, you got to get the frites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Steak frites. That’s kind of a benchmark dish. Like a lasagna in an Italian restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> How are the steak frites? And how did you get yours prepared?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Medium rare. I’m good like that. I need a little chewy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I need a little blood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> A little blood. Just a little.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I like that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> With the sauce that they put on it. But I also subbed the fries for the truffle fries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Mmm!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, with champagne…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Now we’re eating. I like it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Champagne. I’ll tell you, truffle fries and champagne. It’s about the best thing you can —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yeah?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Put us onto something.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Salt and sparkly. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell me about your experience and what you had there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Well, the movies on the wall was a huge plus. Walk in, it’s a kind of cool vibe. I also thought, “This is a really fancy restaurant. I wonder which of y’all picked this fancy restaurant. Is the food any good?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Of course the young buck.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Listen, I was blown away. The first thing I had was the anchovies. I don’t know much about anchovies, but they recommended this. And the anchovy comes on this brioche, so it’s like this sweet and salty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Love it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yo, it started like that and I was like, yo, it’s about to be a roller-coaster ride now ’cause this is a great start.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What about you, Adonal? What did you have?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> So I had the house salad, which was amazing. And I had a burger. But I was like, “Really?” You know, as a big man, the table, like, was, like, this size of just this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> So I find myself, like, you know… With my burger, like, trying to figure out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Boxing out at the table? You know, like, how to do it, right, you know? So I finally went, like, in a corner seat, and I’m like, “You know what? I’m just gonna go in.” So I just grab it and, you know, went in and get it. No, it was amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And how was the burger?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> The burger was so good. Juicy. The sauce they used. But I think, for me the bun was like really, really, really amazing. Just like perfectly — not too hard, but just hard enough.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s all about the bun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Soft on the outside. I mean, it was really, really incredible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> I don’t know if you guys are like this, but I always watch — look at other people’s plates when I walk in. So I peeped the duck confit. Ooh. I was like, “I need that. I need all of that.” So the duck confit came, and it was incredible. Incredible. Crispy. But on the outside, so the skin is crispy. I love when the skin is crispy. On everything. Even on fish. Any kind of poultry. It’s great. Crispy on the outside. Lot of flavor. Juicy on the inside. And, wow, yeah, I was really happy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Any dessert? Or drinks?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I didn’t do dessert or drinks, but I do want to say something. I want to go back there just so I can try — and I’m trying to bring myself to it, but the escargot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh! Escargot. It’s delicious. It’s just a little snail.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I’ve never — I know it’s just a little snail, but it’s just…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You know, when you add garlic and butter to anything — a piece of cardboard, a shoe leather — it tastes good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> That is true.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, escargot. Don’t be afraid of those little snails.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You’re gonna love it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> I am a little afraid. I am a little afraid.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So you liked the spot?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> But I like that you will try things.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I will.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> That, for me, is, I will always try anything once.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Dessert. I had the chocolate mousse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> I don’t know if it comes like this, but they did it special, I think. They had the madeleines that came out with the chocolate syrup and the vanilla — whatever it was. I was dipping it in every which sauce. Had the chocolate mousse in one hand, the madeleine in the other hand. They must have thought, “Man, where did this guy come from?” [laughter]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> His hands were full! Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> It was very, very good. I was very happy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So a new discovery for everyone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, If you would like to try Bon Délire, it’s located on Pier 3 in San Francisco’s Embarcadero. And the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $75. Well, now that we’ve got the scoop on the players’ favorite eats, it’s time to find out what the rest of the Dub Nation are snacking on. [music playing] Reporter Cecilia Phillips heads to Chase Center for more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I am so excited to be here today at Chase Center. This is one of my favorite sporting events — a Warriors game. But before I even go there, there’s so much to do outside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donna Daniels:\u003c/strong> So right now we’re standing in Thrive City. It is a community gathering space, 365, morning, noon, and night. And anything you want to eat, we’ve got it. [music playing] Splash is our 30,000-square foot sports bar. There’s literally nothing like Splash in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Ugh! Aah! No! Mario, I’m so excited. These cocktails look amazing!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mario Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah, for sure. They’re all tasty. We have a little bit of everything for everybody here. If you want something spirit forward, that would be this guy right here — the Night, Night. It’s named Night, Night because, you know…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Night, night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mario Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> Steph Curry, all day. Yeah, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> [laughs] [people cheering]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mario Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> And then over here we have the Splash cocktail, a vodka base with some vanilla, passionfruit, some citrus, and then the cantaloupe with some chia seeds on top.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Looks like basketballs, I feel like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mario Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> Correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Mmm! Gets you in the mood to splash.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mario Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah. Pop-A-Shot’s right over there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Now? Oh, my gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mario Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> It’s on. Yeah, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Buzzer beater! Oh! Whoa! [laughs] [music playing] Alright, Chef T. We’re at Swish & Sugar at Chase Center. Club level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Chef T:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> And I cannot tell you how excited I am to start with dessert. [music playing] So what is this concept?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Chef T:\u003c/strong> The concept is, we realized that there weren’t a lot of desert offerings, so we said let’s have some fun here. And this is our creations. [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> That brownie is really gooey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Chef T:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> [laughs] Let me just wash it down with this root beer float really quickly. [music playing] All right. Have to get into the savory now. You like to have different vendors come in from the community, and Hot Dog Bills is an example of that with a big history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Chef T:\u003c/strong> Correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> The shape is super unique, and that’s kind of why they created it. So what is it? It’s a hot dog? It’s a hamburger? It’s a dog burger?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Chef T:\u003c/strong> It’s a Burgerdog. Get it on the grill, be able to cook it quick and keep all that flavor and juice right there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Alright, here we go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Chef T:\u003c/strong> You got a burger there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> But it feels like I’m gonna be able to enjoy this for a much longer period of time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Chef T:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> [laughs] That’s great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Here we go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> It would not be a Bay Area food experience unless there was some sort of healthy new options out there, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Chef T:\u003c/strong> Of course. We have a vegan nacho.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Mmm! 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[laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I have to thank my fun and fabulous guests on this week’s show who all chose restaurants in San Francisco. Festus Ezeli, who savors the sesame chicken at House of Nanking. Adonal Foyle, lover of the veal alla Bologna at North Beach Restaurant. And Trayce Jackson-Davis, who basks in the bay views at Bon Délire. Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on \u003ci>Check, Please! Bay Area:\u003c/i>.” I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers. And cheers to you all. You were fabulous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Salute.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Fabulous, fabulous, fabulous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Should I try it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mario Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> You should definitely try Pop-A-Shot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Are you any good?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mario Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> I mean, once the Night, Night’s flowing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> [laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mario Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> How to use the backboard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> If I don’t beat you, I will be so mad. I’m not even joking. I love this game. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 20, episode 9, airs Thursday, October 30, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week, we’re serving up serious flavor with the Golden State Warriors players as they dish on their favorite San Francisco restaurants! Our all-star lineup kicks off at \u003cstrong>North Beach Restaurant\u003c/strong>, a historic Italian restaurant with vintage elegance featuring housemade pastas and other standouts including hearty, creamy lasagna bolognese and classic chicken al mattone. Next, our guests head to \u003cstrong>House of Nanking\u003c/strong> in Chinatown, a beloved institution since the 1980s where the Fang family dishes out Chinese American favorites. Warriors guests praise the house sizzling fried rice and Nanking’s sesame chicken, longtime fan favorite dishes. Finally, \u003cstrong>Bon Délire\u003c/strong> on the Embarcadero delivers traditional French comfort with a modern twist, from buttery steak frites to their rich and tender duck confit, a tribute to owner Kais Boudizi’s Parisian roots. Reporter Cecilia Phillips wraps up the episode at the \u003cstrong>Chase Center\u003c/strong>, where she digs into what Dub Nation is eating and soaks up the vibrant community energy surrounding the evolving food scene at the home of the Warriors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23627\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23627 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Guests.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Guests.png 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Guests-160x90.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Guests-768x432.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Guests-1536x864.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Trayce Jackson-Davis, Festus Ezeli and Adonal Foyle from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.northbeachrestaurant.com/\">\u003cstrong>North Beach Restaurant\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.houseofnankingsf.com/\">\u003cstrong>House of Nanking\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bondeliresf.com/\">\u003cstrong>Bon Délire \u003c/strong>(San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.chasecenter.com/thrive-city/shops/\">\u003cstrong>Chase Center \u003c/strong>(San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23630\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-2000x2476.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"2476\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-2000x2476.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-160x198.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-768x951.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-1241x1536.jpg 1241w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/10/2009_Wines-1655x2048.jpg 1655w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"https://griffodistillery.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Griffo Distillery, Scott Street Gin\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>Petaluma, California $36\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>You don’t have to look too far in the Bay Area for handcrafted spirits that shine, but Griffo Distillery is a hidden gem that just so happens to hail from my hometown of Petaluma in Sonoma County. This world-class, highly awarded gin just won the title of America’s Greatest London Dry Gin 2025 by the Gin Guild.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Griffo crafts several styles of gin (and some delicious vodka and whiskey, too), but the Scott Street Gin is my jam. I adore the smooth texture and delicate balance of botanicals, making for an ideal gin and tonic. Distilled in a single run, the sophisticated 92-proof spirit captures the herbal essence of wild juniper and coriander with a citrusy ping from Sonoma-grown Meyer lemons. Headed to Wine Country? Griffo is a fun spot to visit before or after hitting the wineries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.gloriaferrer.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">\u003cstrong>Gloria Ferrer 2021 “Cremoso” Sparkling Wine\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Carneros, Sonoma County, California $85\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>When I first tasted this wine, I was impressed with its unique style and succulent deliciousness. I am a dedicated bubble lover and appreciate different expressions of sparkling. This is one you don’t want to put down. The Cremoso is luxurious to sip, as it’s made in a crémant (creamy) style. This accounts for the lower pressure, creating bubbles that are silky smooth on the palate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A blend of Chardonnay, Pinot Noir and a dash of Pinot Blanc grapes combine to give complexity to the finished wine. With a balance of acidity and sweetness, its fruit-driven, floral aromas are layered with a finish that glides on your palate. A perfect wine to end a meal with cheese or light desserts, due to its whisper of sweetness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://kutchwines.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">\u003cstrong>Kutch Falstaff Vineyard 2024 Pinot Noir\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Sonoma Coast, California $69\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>Pinot Noir is called the “heartbreak grape” for a reason. The variety is highly particular about where it’s planted, needing just the right soils and climate to create world-class wines. Pinot Noir’s home is in Burgundy, France, but it’s grown in a handful of cool-climate areas around the world. 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That’s Pinot Perfection.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> From old-school Italian…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Sounds kind of weird, but it was really, really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …to classic Chinese comforts…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> You kind of discover the mystery inside. …and bistro bites by the Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> I was like, I need that. I need all of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The Golden State Warriors give us their favorite San Francisco hangouts just ahead on a special \u003ci>Check, Please! Bay Area:\u003c/i>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I feel like this is going to guarantee some swishes tonight. [indistinct conversations]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Do you find that the energy is different at the end? Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003ci>Check, Please! Bay Area:\u003c/i>,” the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. [music playing] This time we’re “banging the boards” with members of the Golden State Warriors organization, the Bay Area’s beloved NBA team. Former center Adonal Foyle played ten seasons with the Warriors from 1997 to 2007, and is the team’s all-time leader in blocked shots. Whoo! [clapping]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Whoo!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> In the years since his retirement, he’s become a political activist, philanthropist, and sports analyst, and commentator.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Announcer:\u003c/strong> Jarrett Jack — the lob! And Ezeli!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And former center Festus Ezeli played four seasons with the Warriors and helped the team win the 2015 NBA Championship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> A-ha! [clapping]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Like Adonal, he’s now a seasoned sports commentator and also a big time foodie who’s gaining a following with his “Festus Feasts,” social media channel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Announcer:\u003c/strong> The feed and the finish!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And center Trayce Jackson-Davis, whose father also played in the NBA, is a rising young star for the Warriors. He made his debut during the 2023-24 season, when he became the first Warrior rookie to lead the team in blocked shots since… Festus in 2013. 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[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Francesco Covucci:\u003c/strong> North Beach Restaurant is the classic Italian restaurant. Una Tagliatelle Bolognese. You come here and from the minute that you walk in, you want to be part of the family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Francesco Covucci:\u003c/strong> How are we doing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Good thank, you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Francesco Covucci:\u003c/strong> Hi, there. Mwah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> It’s so good to see you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Francesco Covucci:\u003c/strong> North Beach Restaurant opened in 1970 by Lorenzo Petroni. And Bruno Orsi, he was the chef. Zucchini flower. North Beach Restaurant has been around for over 54 years. And now we’re here to keep the legacy and tradition going. [music playing] The menu is an Tuscan with an influence of Emilia-Romagna. We do the Bolognese with a recipe 100 years old, the tortellini, one by one, tortelloni, the lasagna, which are seven layers of lasagna. We have an amazing Mediterranean branzino we butterfly. Very simple, but very nice. Very healthy. [music playing] The old school dish like the pasta della casa when we took over the restaurant. I’ve been having people send me e-mails. Do whatever you want, but do not change the pasta della casa recipe. Ah, Mayor Brown. Welcome back. North Beach Restaurant has been such a tradition. We have in a lot of celebrities, a lot of artists, a lot of politicians. Right now, we see a lot of restaurants that they’re doing the fast casual. At North Beach Restaurant, the guests, what they enjoy the most is a laid back experience. They like to stay a long time. You hear the people say, “Oh, we stayed for an hour at the dinner table. We finish at midnight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Salute!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Francesco Covucci:\u003c/strong> [speaking indistinctly] We love to make you feel like to be in Italy without taking overseas flights. [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Adonal, this is really a mainstay of classic San Francisco restaurants. I’ve been going there for almost 20-something years, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Really?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> I mean, the atmosphere in that place is incredible. There is incredible wine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> You know, my favorite is the chicken mattone. [chicken sizzling] It’s just perfect when it comes to the table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Juicy, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Juicy. And, you know, with a nice glass of wine. I mean, how could you go wrong?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And their wine list is great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> And their wine list is amazing. [laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Their wine list is Italian, Italian, Italian. All right, Trayce, what did you have? Did you start with something like an appetizer or a salad?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I started with just the potato soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> And, um… The way that the dish came out, I mean, I’ve never had — There was like a pomegranate puree in the soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Which sounds kind of weird, but it was really, really good. But I think my favorite dish was the lasagna just because it’s classic. The way that they had the parmesan on top, it was almost crusted over. It was delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> And lasagna is one of those things that’s a staple. It’s like red sauce on pasta.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Like, if you make it well there, then you know that the food there is really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> The amazing thing about this place, because it’s been around for so long, almost anything that you try is going to be good because the chef’s been doing it for a very long time. So the veal, absolutely exquisite. I mean, it’s tasty, but I think, you know —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Veal is tricky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> It’s very tricky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s very tricky to get it right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> And it’s not everybody could do it. But I mean, they make it so perfectly. I mean, so you go there and you just look at the waiter and you say, “Just bring me something amazing.” That’s what I say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I’m in your hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Just bring me something amazing. I’m in your care. [laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I’m in your hands. That’s right, that’s right. That’s all you have to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> When I go, I just say, “Do what you do for Adonal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> There you go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Whatever you make him smile like that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Not the bill, though! [all laugh]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You throw Adonal’s name in and you’re going to get places. And did you have anything else, Trayce?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I had a Bolognese, which was really good. It’s another classic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I was with one of my buddies, and he thought it was his favorite dish, but just the meat sauce and how it was the noodles. You can tell that they were freshly made and I’m kind of a foodie myself. And so I know that when you make pasta fresh, you only boil it for about 2 to 3 minutes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> And so… It changes everything. [all cheering] [indistinct] I love it!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> I learned something new.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s true. I make my own. Listen, at the holiday time I’m known for homemade raviolis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Really?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> What?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So we do the whole thing, you know, make the dough and cut them by hand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Which holiday is this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> We’re coming over.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Come to my house. I’ll put you to work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> You don’t want me your kitchen. You don’t want me anywhere near it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> He’s gonna eat everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Well, or burn everything down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What did you get for dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Uh, we got a tiramisu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Ooh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Yes, it was perfect. Just layered with alcohol the way we like it, but it was delicious. Melted in your mouth, and I would definitely go back for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, well, I’m going to go with you three. We’re going to all go together. Okay? If you would like to try North Beach Restaurant, it’s located on Stockton Street in San Francisco, and the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $75. Festus’s restaurant is another classic in the San Francisco culinary scene, with dishes like their famed sesame chicken and crispy potstickers, the Fang family has created a beacon for Chinese comfort food ever since they opened in 1988. Located in San Francisco’s Chinatown. It’s House of Nanking. [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kathy Fang:\u003c/strong> House of Nanking, when you walk in is loud, it’s boisterous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Patrons:\u003c/strong> Whoa! We’re all yelling at each other. The service is very curt and quick, and you come in and you’re like, “Okay, hm. Interesting.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Mmm!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kathy Fang:\u003c/strong> But then once you taste our food, I think everything settles in and you realize, “Wow, this is a special place.” My parents, Peter and Lily, opened this restaurant back in 1988. I was 7 years old and I was always tasting my dad’s food first because I’m right there and I’ll give it to you blunt, because I’m a child. I don’t know how to lie. And it was just like the best culinary work experience ever. [music playing] Cuisine here we like to say it’s Chinese food, but with a twist. We make all of our sauces in-house. When people think of House of Nanking, I would say 95% always think about the sesame chicken, because it’s the one dish that put my dad on the map. He decided that he wanted to make his own version of an orange chicken, but my dad didn’t like how it was heavily battered. So he changed it, made it so that it was very lightly battered, and he made it a little less sweet. And then he paired it with sweet potato. Chinese people don’t really cook with sweet potato, but he said, “Americans love sweet potato with turkey.” And he’s like, “Why not do chicken and sweet potato?” Our sizzling fried rice is one of our most iconic dishes. It’s super aromatic. It’s smoky. You’ve got deliciousness. You’ve got a show. I mean, what’s not to love about it? [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Peter Fang:\u003c/strong> Don’t tell me what you’re thinking. [laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kathy Fang:\u003c/strong> When people think House of Nanking, they think of the older gentleman who likes to tell you what to eat or won’t let you order off the menu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Peter Fang:\u003c/strong> If you trust me, I’ll bring you a couple of things to share.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kathy Fang:\u003c/strong> My dad’s so — it’s, like, ingrained in him that he’s like, that’s what I want to do. I want to take care of the people who come in. Let me decide. Let me take care of you. That’s the way to do it here at the restaurant. I think the longevity of all of this is because of my parents. I don’t know if they could do anything else besides this. Now, for me, I want to continue their legacy. And I also love it. Like, this is my whole world. I meet all kinds of people. And people love our restaurant so it’s a happy place. [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. Festus, “Festus Feasts.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> “Festus Feasts,” Yes. Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right? How did you become such a lover of food?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Uh, it’s really the Bay area. There’s so much great food here. So I really wanted to bring a lot of love with the platform that we have as basketball players. We have fans that follow us. So I wanted to bring those people to the local restaurants to support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you chose House of Nanking. Why is that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yes. Oh my gosh. First off, I love the story. Immigrant family comes here and makes a name for themselves, and they build this staple in the community that really feeds everybody. But the food there is incredible, that’s why.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And there’s a lot of food. It’s a big menu, isn’t it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Oh man, I go there specifically — Just trust me. The fish soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> First time I heard it, it sounded weird. I was like, I don’t know if this is what I can do, but I asked them and they said, “You have to get this.” And when I got it, it was — It comes in this big container. It’s still on the fire. They keep it going the whole time. It has everything in there. It has, obviously it’s fish in there, but the broth, it is so good. [sbrocco laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> It’s so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It has you dreaming about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Oh, I still think — I’m thinking about it now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, did you have any fish soup, Adonal? I didn’t — I didn’t dare try the fish soup. [laughter] Like, I wanted to kind of get a sense of it. And so I told the chef I was like, “You know, treat me like, you know, I’m new here and I don’t know what’s happening and just surprise me with your greatness.” And, you know, five meals later, it was absolutely incredible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, I have to do that, sort of chef’s special.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> The chef’s special is amazing. [laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And tell me one of the favorite things that you had, Adonal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> They had a short ribs and it was tender, a little fried and hard on the outside. It was so exquisite. And you’re eating it and you just feel like, “You know what? “My mama could make this.” And it’s like the atmosphere in that place is almost like that nonchalant. It’s like, “Our food is good. We don’t have to have a pretty building, just eat!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yes! Yes!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> [laughing] I love it!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> That’s why I liked it. They’re like, “Yo. Our food is good. Hey, sit down over there. We’ll just figure it out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> There’s a long line out the door. We’ve gotta check them out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> [laughing] Exactly!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What about your experience?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> My experience was great. I mean, when I went, it was probably like, 6:30-7, but it was packed. I mean, people literally waiting outside in lines. And so I think that just tells you about the culture that they have and about their food. [pan sizzling] My favorite dish was probably the fried rice. And it’s just because he was cooking in front of us, and it’s like a huge tower. And then they pour the egg around it and they start sauteing it, almost like you’re at a hibachi restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> That’s true. That’s amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> We had the pork dumplings as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> Ooh, yeah. The pork dumplings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> They’re good! You know the sauce in the pork dumplings? I would take the sauce and I’d put it on the fried rice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yo, you did it right!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Come on now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> You did it right. That’s a pro. That’s a pro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s a tip. That’s a pro tip. An insider tip you will only get on \u003ci>Check, Please! Bay Area:\u003c/i>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> That’s a pro right there. I didn’t even have to say nothing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You nailed that. Okay, talk a little bit about the dumplings. Are you a dumpling fan too?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> I love dumplings. Anything where meat is wrapped in dough. [laughter] Meat pies, dumplings. Anything like that, for me, is great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Every culture has a type of dumplings. Yeah, absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> And it’s so amazing, right? Because it’s moist and it’s like you kind of discover the mystery inside. I mean, I think that what makes the food so unique is that you can tell the care that it’s taken to prepare. And each of them is so amazing in its own way, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Any y’all do the sesame chicken?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I should’ve. I should’ve.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> You really is thinking about the sesame chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yo, I need, like, the sweet and savory together in one dish. The sesame chicken is — I — that was one of my favorites as well, because that’s what I also eat with the rice if I want to. If I’m feeling a little freaky, I want to mix the sesame chicken with the fried rice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> “Festus Feasts Freaky.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> [laughing] Freaky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> I don’t know. It’s like “Festus Feasts After Dark.” I don’t know if we’re ready for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> That’s his freaky place. [laughter]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I love that. So what about service?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> I was there at like 12:00, in the 12:00 session. I think what was interesting, there wasn’t a lot of people there, but the service is almost — I call it like laissez-faire. But it was, like, so awesome because they do pay attention, just not hover. So I was like, okay, I like that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah. Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adonal Foyle:\u003c/strong> They’re there. But they just — they want you to enjoy the food. -Sbrocco: Yeah. -Jackson-Davis: I agree 100%. Another thing, just shout-out to — we call her Mama. So she was there and she’s just kind of going around. It’s like you’re in her home and she’s just serving everyone if you need something. And then — it was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> They’re definitely a staple in the community. I love them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Absolutely. Alright, if you would like to try House of Nanking, it’s located on Kearny Street in San Francisco, and the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $40. Trayce is a relative newcomer to the city, so it’s pretty fitting he chose a hip new bistro as his local escape. Boasting both bay and bridge views, it’s the perfect place to indulge in Parisian classics. Located in Pier 3 along San Francisco’s Embarcadero, it’s Bon Délire. [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Patrick Thillard:\u003c/strong> “Bon délire” means a lot of things. You know, in France, when you go to restaurants, the vibe, the music, the smell. If the place is good, It’s called “bon délire.” [music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vernon Morales:\u003c/strong> As far as technique, we stick to the classics, but we try to just do it a little better than the normal. We have the farmers market a stone’s throw away. I go there every Saturday, every Tuesday, and we get fresh product. We have a special board, a chalkboard that is constantly changing, and we have some fun with that. The steak frites that we have at Bon Délire, we use two cuts. One is prime New York, and the other one is onglet, which is the hanger steak. We finish it with a little butter, thyme, and garlic. This actually helps us infuse the flavor of the thyme a little bit into the meat. It’s rich. It’s got a beautiful texture. The sauce is a classic French sauce — au poivre. We use three kinds of peppercorns and a little bit of brandy, a little cream, a lot of love.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Patrick Thillard:\u003c/strong> The sauce au poivre — the chef make it. It’s fabulous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vernon Morales:\u003c/strong> I’m sorry, what did you say again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Patrick Thillard:\u003c/strong> It’s fabulous. Honestly, it’s fabulous. [music playing] It’s a brasserie. This was the most important for us to have the bar, central bar. The top of the bar, it’s zinc from France. When you sit at the bar, you can see everything. When you go to the good restaurant and you have a good night. It’s not just about the food experience. It’s everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vernon Morales:\u003c/strong> The staff will get caught up in the energy. We’ll have a little bit of fun with the guests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Patrick Thillard:\u003c/strong> When the customer leave, automatically they remember the place. All the time they think about, “Oh, this restaurant was bon délire.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vernon Morales:\u003c/strong> [chuckles]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Trayce, how did you find this place?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I’m a newcomer, and I’m kind of in that Gen Z, like, media. So I actually found it on TikTok.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> There you go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> So…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You actually found it on “Festus Feasts.” [laughter]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Exactly. But when I walked into the place and you see the circle bar, and they’re playing movies on the wall, and the deejay and the vinyls that they have, it was amazing to see, like, a modern twist on French cuisine. And, obviously, when you go French, you got to get the frites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Steak frites. That’s kind of a benchmark dish. Like a lasagna in an Italian restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> How are the steak frites? And how did you get yours prepared?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> Medium rare. I’m good like that. I need a little chewy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I need a little blood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> A little blood. Just a little.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I like that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> With the sauce that they put on it. But I also subbed the fries for the truffle fries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Mmm!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, with champagne…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Now we’re eating. I like it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Champagne. I’ll tell you, truffle fries and champagne. It’s about the best thing you can —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Yeah?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Festus Ezeli:\u003c/strong> Put us onto something.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Salt and sparkly. 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Incredible. Crispy. But on the outside, so the skin is crispy. I love when the skin is crispy. On everything. Even on fish. Any kind of poultry. It’s great. Crispy on the outside. Lot of flavor. Juicy on the inside. And, wow, yeah, I was really happy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Any dessert? Or drinks?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Trayce Jackson-Davis:\u003c/strong> I didn’t do dessert or drinks, but I do want to say something. I want to go back there just so I can try — and I’m trying to bring myself to it, but the escargot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh! Escargot. It’s delicious. 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[music playing] Reporter Cecilia Phillips heads to Chase Center for more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I am so excited to be here today at Chase Center. This is one of my favorite sporting events — a Warriors game. But before I even go there, there’s so much to do outside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Donna Daniels:\u003c/strong> So right now we’re standing in Thrive City. It is a community gathering space, 365, morning, noon, and night. And anything you want to eat, we’ve got it. [music playing] Splash is our 30,000-square foot sports bar. There’s literally nothing like Splash in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Ugh! Aah! No! Mario, I’m so excited. These cocktails look amazing!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mario Gutierrez:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah, for sure. They’re all tasty. We have a little bit of everything for everybody here. 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[laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I have to thank my fun and fabulous guests on this week’s show who all chose restaurants in San Francisco. Festus Ezeli, who savors the sesame chicken at House of Nanking. Adonal Foyle, lover of the veal alla Bologna at North Beach Restaurant. And Trayce Jackson-Davis, who basks in the bay views at Bon Délire. Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on \u003ci>Check, Please! Bay Area:\u003c/i>.” I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers. And cheers to you all. 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The episode ends in downtown San Mateo at \u003cstrong>Rise Woodfire Pizza & Rotisserie\u003c/strong>, where a former finance professional-turned-pizzaiolo dishes out wood-fired pies and rotisserie meats in a stunning converted train station. Highlights include the housemade meatballs, tender beef back rib pizza, and a decadent brownie-stuffed cookie for dessert. Plus, in Cecilia Tries It, reporter Cecilia Philips dives into the rhythms, flavors, and reverence of \u003cstrong>San Jose’s Japantown\u003c/strong>, from fresh market finds to the drums and dances of the annual \u003cstrong>Obon Festival\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23557\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1620px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-23557\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/07/2008_Guests.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1620\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/07/2008_Guests.png 1620w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/07/2008_Guests-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/07/2008_Guests-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/07/2008_Guests-1536x1024.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1620px) 100vw, 1620px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests JG, Kristie Ramirez and Vanessa Guerra from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.brezorestaurant.com/\">\u003cstrong>Brezo\u003c/strong> (Albany)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://minniebellssoul.com/\">\u003cstrong>Minnie Bell’s Soul Movement\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.risewoodfire.com/\">\u003cstrong>Rise Woodfire Pizza & Rotisserie \u003c/strong>(San Mateo)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"https://jtownfarm.org/\">Japantown Farmers Market\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.sjbetsuin.org/annual_obon_festival/\">Obon Festival \u003c/a>\u003c/strong>(San Jose)\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"458\" data-end=\"476\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Southern-style comforts in San Francisco?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>JG\u003c/strong>: It’s one of those places where you just feel at home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"576\" data-end=\"594\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Seasonal Cal-Mex fusion in Albany.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"630\" data-end=\"633\" data-is-only-node=\"\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"633\" data-end=\"651\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: The blueberry pancakes.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"676\" data-end=\"679\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"679\" data-end=\"698\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Huge.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"705\" data-end=\"708\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"708\" data-end=\"726\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Huge.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"733\" data-end=\"736\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"679\" data-end=\"698\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: And wood-fired favorites in San Mateo. I kind of went a little exotic with mine.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"836\" data-end=\"839\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"839\" data-end=\"857\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Just ahead on \u003cem data-start=\"873\" data-end=\"901\">“Check, Please! Bay Area.”\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cbr data-start=\"901\" data-end=\"904\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"904\" data-end=\"924\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Ooh, look at this. I’m never going to have anything more delicious.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"993\" data-end=\"996\">[music playing]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1011\" data-end=\"1014\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1014\" data-end=\"1032\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem data-start=\"1069\" data-end=\"1096\">“Check Please! Bay Area,”\u003c/em> the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now we have three guests and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem data-start=\"1337\" data-end=\"1351\">Check Please\u003c/em> table today are culture curator JG, HR manager Vanessa Guerra, and graphic designer and illustrator Kristie Ramirez. Welcome, everyone.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1487\" data-end=\"1490\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1490\" data-end=\"1508\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Hi, Leslie.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1521\" data-end=\"1524\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1524\" data-end=\"1543\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: How are you doing?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1563\" data-end=\"1566\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1566\" data-end=\"1584\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Let’s kick things off with Kristie’s go-to brunch spot. Offering a blend of both California and Latin specialties, fresh mimosas, and a sunny patio to soak it all in, it’s the perfect place when this mom of two under two needs her own “timeout.” Located in Albany’s Solano Avenue district, it’s Brezo.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1887\" data-end=\"1890\">[music playing]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1905\" data-end=\"1908\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1908\" data-end=\"1927\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: Brezo is a family restaurant where we serve up a lot of just homey meals with a little Californian and Latin mix that makes people happy. Our menu here is a mix between me, a Californian, and him coming from Mexico.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2144\" data-end=\"2147\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2147\" data-end=\"2166\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: Who had chilaquiles?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2188\" data-end=\"2191\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2191\" data-end=\"2210\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: I grew up on a farm, so we wanted to make everything fresh and everything from scratch. We use recipes that I’ve been developing for a long time. Like the pancakes, we make a blueberry butter for the top, so it’s like blueberry on blueberry. The polenta is like from when I was a kid, my dad used to make me polenta for breakfast. We like to cook it slow and low, and we put lots of cheese.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2602\" data-end=\"2605\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2605\" data-end=\"2625\">Hector Hernandez\u003c/strong>: Lots.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2632\" data-end=\"2635\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2635\" data-end=\"2654\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: The yummy part.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2671\" data-end=\"2674\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2674\" data-end=\"2694\">Hector Hernandez\u003c/strong>: Yeah.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2701\" data-end=\"2704\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2704\" data-end=\"2716\">Customer\u003c/strong>: Wow. It’s so cheesy.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2738\" data-end=\"2741\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2741\" data-end=\"2760\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: On the Latin side, we have gordita, the sopes, chilaquiles — that’s more Mexico City. My favorite thing to cook is the braised lamb. It will take hours and hours to cook, but as soon as they come out, it’s the best thing ever. And then we have a little Latin. The chimichurri goes on top of it, and it’s like, that’s all the combination of us.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3106\" data-end=\"3109\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3109\" data-end=\"3128\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: Here at Brezo, we welcome everybody. You can come for a date or you can come with your kids. We put a lot of love in our food.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3256\" data-end=\"3259\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3259\" data-end=\"3278\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: I love to put smiles on people’s faces. I couldn’t think of doing anything else. I think we’re, like, a really good team.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3401\" data-end=\"3404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3404\" data-end=\"3422\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Now, Kristie, what’s unique about Brezo is it is this mixture of cultures, isn’t it?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3508\" data-end=\"3511\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3511\" data-end=\"3530\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Yeah, definitely. You know, I love breakfast and I like the idea of using two different types of, kind of, my favorite food. I’ve gone all around the Bay Area trying to look for the best chilaquiles, and I think that they’re here. It’s a huge portion. It’s a perfect tomatillo sauce, the chips are always crisp. What makes it slightly different is they drizzle their own homemade salsa roja. So you’re kind of getting a mix of the two best worlds — the red sauce and the green sauce. I love ordering it with the egg over easy. Once you pop that little yolk and it kind of runs in, it adds like a buttery texture to the chilaquiles. So good. And it was kind of a girls day out, and so we had mimosas. I specifically had the peach cider mimosa. It was really light, bubbly, with a hint of the peach. I really enjoyed it and I think it complemented the chilaquiles really well.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4407\" data-end=\"4410\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4410\" data-end=\"4428\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: And it’s nice to have a cider.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4460\" data-end=\"4463\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4463\" data-end=\"4482\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Yeah. Yeah, definitely.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4507\" data-end=\"4510\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4510\" data-end=\"4528\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: What did you have when you went?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4562\" data-end=\"4565\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4565\" data-end=\"4583\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: I had the woodland omelet.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4611\" data-end=\"4614\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4614\" data-end=\"4632\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Okay.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4639\" data-end=\"4642\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4642\" data-end=\"4660\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Vegetarian, full of provolone and lots and lots of grilled mushrooms, spinach, some garlic. It came with a nice portion of home fries and it was really delicious. It was huge. The portions are huge and so it was hard to finish. I only got through about half of that portion.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4936\" data-end=\"4939\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4939\" data-end=\"4957\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: So you get two meals.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4980\" data-end=\"4983\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4983\" data-end=\"5001\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: I got two meals. Yeah, exactly.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5034\" data-end=\"5037\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5037\" data-end=\"5055\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, JG, what was your experience?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5097\" data-end=\"5100\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5100\" data-end=\"5106\">JG\u003c/strong>: The staff was really, really friendly. The food was amazing. I actually went for a dinner and they have a salad called the calico salad. It’s like a southwestern, romaine lettuce, it has a nice zesty chili lime dressing to it, and it had a right amount of crunch to it. I wish it had more chips because who doesn’t like a good chip? And a little bit more avocado, but the overall salad was really good. And I had the lamb shank which was super fall-of-the-bone tender. It had a polenta that was nice and creamy. It had a nice, interesting sauce to it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"4463\" data-end=\"4482\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: You can never go wrong with their Mexican dishes as well. You know, when I’ve gone, their gorditas — they are handmade tortillas and they’re stuffed with meat, they have beans in them, their housemade salsa, cheese, lettuce. Very, very good.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5902\" data-end=\"5905\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5905\" data-end=\"5923\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Very good. Did you have anything else? Did you try anything else?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5990\" data-end=\"5993\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6583\" data-end=\"6601\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Well, we ordered a lot of food while we were there, so my sister got a cheeseburger that I had complete entrée envy over because it was on this huge brioche bun with tons of fun vegetables on it, bacon, cheese dripping off of it, huge burger. She could only get through about half, and then she got a really lovely side salad full of fresh veggies, garbanzo beans, cucumbers, and a delightful vinaigrette that was perfectly bright on the salad. Perfect accompaniment to that burger. And then my uncle, he got the blueberry pancakes, which were like–\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6551\" data-end=\"6554\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6554\" data-end=\"6573\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Huge.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6580\" data-end=\"6583\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6583\" data-end=\"6601\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Huge!\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6608\" data-end=\"6611\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6611\" data-end=\"6629\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: The size of your plate.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6654\" data-end=\"6657\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6657\" data-end=\"6675\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Yeah, the size of the plate, and there’s three of them. They had the blueberries folded into the batter, which was great. Tons of blueberries on top. I think it even had blueberries in the butter, which was a nice touch. And we got the Kahlua banana French toast, and that was also a fan favorite. It was nice and crispy, bananas — sweet, kind of that flambé style, and it was delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"6554\" data-end=\"6573\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: One thing I also did want to note that we had the scones. Oh, my God. They are so good. The scone itself was very fluffy. Cut in half, it was filled with a cream. And then it had a really nice preserve on it. And I felt like it was a great balance, because the acidity of that preserve really cut through that sweetness and heaviness of that cream.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7414\" data-end=\"7417\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7417\" data-end=\"7435\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Now come on, JG, you’re getting a little breakfast envy over there, aren’t you?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7516\" data-end=\"7519\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7519\" data-end=\"7525\">JG\u003c/strong>: I’m not an egg fan, actually, so I’m super limited with breakfast. So, like, I didn’t know that chilaquiles was that fire. I would get that without the egg ’cause I’ve done that before. I wish I would have definitely got the chilaquiles, ’cause now the way you explain it, I’m like, okay.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7815\" data-end=\"7818\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7818\" data-end=\"7836\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Well, you can always go back.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7867\" data-end=\"7870\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7870\" data-end=\"7876\">JG\u003c/strong>: Oh yeah, definitely. For sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"7818\" data-end=\"7836\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: You can always go back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"7870\" data-end=\"7876\">JG\u003c/strong>: And like I said, the staff was really cool. Definitely nice to know that there’s scones there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"8186\" data-end=\"8204\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: We were super disappointed ’cause I wanted to try that scone, but they sold out, so it must be very popular.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8136\" data-end=\"8139\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8139\" data-end=\"8158\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Oh, yeah. It’s so good.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8183\" data-end=\"8186\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8186\" data-end=\"8204\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Oh, I’m sure.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8219\" data-end=\"8222\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8222\" data-end=\"8241\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Go back for that.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8260\" data-end=\"8263\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8263\" data-end=\"8281\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Yeah, we’ll have to do that.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8311\" data-end=\"8314\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8314\" data-end=\"8332\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, if you would like to try Brezo, it’s located on Solano Avenue in Albany. The average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $65.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8487\" data-end=\"8490\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8490\" data-end=\"8508\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: JG’s local favorite dishes up Southern classics paired with an equally warm side of hospitality. Whenever he’s craving the chef’s signature fried chicken and rich mac and cheese, he heads to San Francisco’s historic Fillmore District, home to Minnie Bell’s Soul Movement.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8781\" data-end=\"8784\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"575\">Fernay McPherson\u003c/strong>: Soul food can be any type of cuisine. It’s just what resonates to people in their spirit, in their souls. It’s comfort food, you know? So I want people to feel that comfort when they’re eating it. Minnie is my great aunt, and Lillie Bell was my grandmother. Everything is food that I learned to cook from them with just little twists and spins that I learned over the years. I grew up going to church, and after church it was fried chicken, you know, dinners that people wanted. So I wanted to do something that just really resonated with my childhood, something that was scratch-made. But I also wanted to put a little twist on it, so that’s where my rosemary fried chicken came from. We have all your classic Southern sides, which is collard greens, mac and cheese, cornbread, which is my favorite. So we’re going to put that brown butter in slowly so that we don’t cook our eggs. The brown butter in our cornbread just adds another layer of flavor that really has people thinking, “What is this?” Like, what’s in this cornbread? I hear people say, “I don’t even like cornbread, but this is some good cornbread.” The Fillmore is the neighborhood that I was born and raised in. My great aunt Minnie and my grandmother, when they migrated here, they saw a different Fillmore. The fact that I am able to open up this Black-owned restaurant in a historic, Black-owned neighborhood, to be here and represent that bygone era is just so important.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2019\" data-end=\"2022\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2022\" data-end=\"2034\">Customer\u003c/strong>: How you doing?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2050\" data-end=\"2053\" data-is-only-node=\"\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2053\" data-end=\"2073\">Fernay McPherson\u003c/strong>: When people come in here and they tell me how proud they are, how they have a space that feels like home to them, it makes me feel good that I’m able to do that. I’m here. I’m home. I appreciate everybody. Thank you.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2291\" data-end=\"2294\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2294\" data-end=\"2312\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Now, JG, have you been a fan of Chef Fernay for a long time?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2374\" data-end=\"2377\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2377\" data-end=\"2383\">JG\u003c/strong>: For a good moment, um, she was actually in Emeryville prior to, at the public market. That’s kind of, like, where I found it randomly one day. But honestly, I think that it has a different flavor and just energy coming from the Fillmore District because of, historically, where she’s from. It’s just one of those places where you just feel at home. And the rosemary fried chicken is something that’s just — I think is very unique with the brine. Leg and thighs is my go-to. So sometimes four is not enough, unfortunately, so I usually get like an eight piece. They have a house hot sauce that they make. It has a nice, like–\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3011\" data-end=\"3014\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3014\" data-end=\"3032\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Kick to it.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3045\" data-end=\"3048\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3048\" data-end=\"3054\">JG\u003c/strong>: It’s just a nice kick to it, yeah. Like a nice kick. And they come with sides whether you get the four or the eight, And the yams has a nice sweet nutmeg, cinnamon, whatever it is, that I just imagine that yams would be ’cause growing up my grandma used to put vanilla extract, cinnamon, and nutmeg in it. And just like a big hug, actually.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3396\" data-end=\"3399\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3399\" data-end=\"3417\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, now tell me about that mac and cheese that goes with it.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3486\" data-end=\"3489\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3489\" data-end=\"3495\">JG\u003c/strong>: The mac and cheese is definitely her signature.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3544\" data-end=\"3547\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3565\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Yeah.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3572\" data-end=\"3575\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3575\" data-end=\"3581\">JG\u003c/strong>: And that’s one of the few places that I enjoy the mac and cheese in public because of the layers of cheese and how gooey it is.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3710\" data-end=\"3713\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3713\" data-end=\"3732\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Yeah, so I have to agree. The mac and cheese was super cheesy, very creamy. But for me, the braised greens were the star of the show. Perfect seasoning, the broth was really good, like, I basically killed that by myself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"4434\" data-end=\"4452\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Those were the best collard greens, braised collard greens I’ve ever had. They were delicious. We got the pickled vegetables also, They house make them, it’s in a quick pickle. And there is four or five different kinds of vegetables in there that really also helped cut the richness of the chicken, along with the richness of the collard greens and the hot sauces and everything. It was really great on the palate. Loved those.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4382\" data-end=\"4385\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4385\" data-end=\"4403\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Did you get fried chicken?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4431\" data-end=\"4434\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4434\" data-end=\"4452\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: We did. We got the fried chicken and the wings in a hot honey sauce. And the wings were a huge portion of these, like, six or eight dinosaur-sized wings. And when we saw those come out first, I thought, “Oh dear, we probably over-ordered again.” And we only got through about half of those before we started moving on to the four-piece chicken that we ordered.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4814\" data-end=\"4817\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4817\" data-end=\"4835\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Right, and fried chicken for you?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4870\" data-end=\"4873\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4873\" data-end=\"4892\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: You know, I’m not a huge fried chicken fan and that place made me a fan.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4966\" data-end=\"4969\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4969\" data-end=\"4987\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Okay, there we go. High praise.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5020\" data-end=\"5023\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4873\" data-end=\"4892\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: I have to say that rosemary, the seasoning, it’s just so unique to me. Also, we’re, like, hot sauce people, so we have to add hot sauce. But, you know, the chicken can stand alone without the hot sauce also.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5250\" data-end=\"5253\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5253\" data-end=\"5271\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, and did you have anything to drink?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5319\" data-end=\"5322\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4873\" data-end=\"4892\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Yeah, I actually had the sangria and it was really refreshing, light, paired really well with that chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"4873\" data-end=\"4892\">JG\u003c/strong>: I like that their wine menu is from Black vendors as well, which is pretty cool. That kind of encompasses that Fillmore energy.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5577\" data-end=\"5580\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5580\" data-end=\"5598\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right. Did you have dessert?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5632\" data-end=\"5635\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5635\" data-end=\"5654\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: I did, I had their banana pudding, which was kind of like a crème brûlée. It was the fusion that I didn’t know that I needed so badly in my life. Me and my husband were, like, fighting for the last bite of it. You know, it had that beautiful crème brûlée that you crack into. It was, like, super creamy. Never experienced a dessert like that.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5998\" data-end=\"6001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6001\" data-end=\"6019\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: We had the sour cream pound cake that had a caramel drizzle on it, and some homemade whipped cream on the side. Came with a bunch of strawberries and it was so good. It wasn’t too sweet. It wasn’t too dense. It was perfect and kind of had to hide it at the very, very back of my fridge when I got home so nobody else would gobble it down later that night but me. So, delicious. Highly–\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6407\" data-end=\"6410\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6410\" data-end=\"6428\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Had no calories either.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6453\" data-end=\"6456\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6456\" data-end=\"6474\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Zero calories.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"6583\" data-end=\"6589\">JG: \u003c/strong>I don’t know if you guys got the cornbread.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6534\" data-end=\"6537\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6537\" data-end=\"6555\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: The cornbread was good.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6580\" data-end=\"6583\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6583\" data-end=\"6589\">JG\u003c/strong>: The honey butter cornbread is definitely where it’s at, too. I’m not a big dessert fan personally, so I usually opt out of desserts.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6723\" data-end=\"6726\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6726\" data-end=\"6744\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Well, you got cornbread and yams.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6779\" data-end=\"6782\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6782\" data-end=\"6788\">JG\u003c/strong>: I got yams. I think I got enough sugar for the day. And the vibe there, to me, is what you think of the Harlem of the West would be. I think it brings a different light into a neighborhood that really needs some light on it, and it has a really historical, happy thing to say about culture. So that’s the reason why I like going there, ’cause for me, it’s nostalgic. It has great music, great people, and it brings people together in a way that I think people in San Francisco should be together.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7286\" data-end=\"7289\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7385\" data-end=\"7403\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: I mean, the vibe in there is really comfortable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"6726\" data-end=\"6744\">Leslie Sbrocco: \u003c/strong>It’s about hospitality.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7382\" data-end=\"7385\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7385\" data-end=\"7403\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Hospitality all the way. It was a wonderful little restaurant. It’s small, but it felt very big and a lot of spirit. And the personality of it was great.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7558\" data-end=\"7561\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7561\" data-end=\"7579\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, I think you got some fans, JG.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7622\" data-end=\"7625\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7625\" data-end=\"7643\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Yeah.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7650\" data-end=\"7653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7653\" data-end=\"7671\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: If you would like to try Minnie Bell’s Soul Movement, It’s located on Fillmore Street in San Francisco, and the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $45.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7850\" data-end=\"7853\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7853\" data-end=\"7871\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Vanessa says any way you slice it, her restaurant serves some of the Bay Area’s most delectable wood-fired pizzas. But that’s just a small part of the draw for her. The high ceilings, lively bar, and family-friendly vibe, all make for a great night out, no matter what the occasion. Located in San Mateo, it’s Rise Woodfire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[music playing]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"501\" data-end=\"504\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"504\" data-end=\"519\">Omid Zahedi\u003c/strong>: The cuisine at Rise Woodfire is Italian American comfort food, as well as American comfort food. All the things that we grew up on with a chef’s touch.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"672\" data-end=\"675\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"675\" data-end=\"692\">Susan Payrovi\u003c/strong>: We decided to call this Rise because Omid has been working on his dough for seven years.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"782\" data-end=\"785\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"785\" data-end=\"800\">Omid Zahedi\u003c/strong>: There’s four flours that make up the pizza dough. It has wheat germ in it, rye in it, it also has whole wheat, and then it has a high-powered, high-gluten flour. This dough has already seen four rises. The fifth rise is when it goes in the oven, and that’s the final rise. You can make a pretty good pizza at home, but there’s no competing with giant 5,000 pound brick oven from Naples, Italy. We use almond wood. It just adds another layer of flavor. This is our prosciutto slicer. It is actually hand-cranked. We want it to go nice and slow and give us paper thin prosciutto. My love affair with the menu or any individual item kind of rotates in and out. Our prime rib is awesome. Sometimes I’m all about just a straight-up Napoli pizza, other times it’s all about the wings.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1580\" data-end=\"1583\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1583\" data-end=\"1600\">Susan Payrovi\u003c/strong>: I actually love the chicken. It has a really good flavor to it. You know, the white meat is great, the dark meat is great, and the different sauces. A big hit is the chimichurri.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1780\" data-end=\"1783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1783\" data-end=\"1798\">Omid Zahedi\u003c/strong>: We love being here at the train station. The ambiance of this place with the 40-foot ceilings, I think we got the largest, tallest bar, maybe in the peninsula. [Laughs] One of the funny things that happens here is sometimes the conductors will give us a phone call and place a pizza order, and then we’ll have it ready for them, and then they’ll just run in and throw a 20 down, and grab it and jump back into the train and take off. I’ve eaten thousands of pizzas and I’m still not tired of it. Yummy! There’s a lot of things to disagree about, but pizza has no enemies. [Laughs]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2380\" data-end=\"2383\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2383\" data-end=\"2390\">All\u003c/strong>: Cheers!\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2399\" data-end=\"2402\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2402\" data-end=\"2420\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Now, Vanessa, they do a very large menu here, don’t they?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2479\" data-end=\"2482\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2482\" data-end=\"2500\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: They do. Pretty eclectic menu.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2532\" data-end=\"2535\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2535\" data-end=\"2553\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: And is that one of the reasons you love it so much?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2606\" data-end=\"2609\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2609\" data-end=\"2627\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: I do. My daughter is a vegan, my son’s a full carnivore, and there’s something on the menu for all of us there. We always start with the prosciutto and arugula pizza. Their crust is nice and chewy and especially love the delicate slicing on the prosciutto. I love the meatballs. The meatballs are absolutely delicious. They’re soft, they’re in a very savory, robust meat sauce. It comes with a very delicate crostini. It’s a perfect accompaniment to the richness of the meatballs.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3109\" data-end=\"3112\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3112\" data-end=\"3131\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: I actually started also with meatballs, and I have to say that I loved them. I feel like that tomato sauce was what made that meatball.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3268\" data-end=\"3271\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3271\" data-end=\"3289\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Isn’t it good?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3305\" data-end=\"3308\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3308\" data-end=\"3327\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: It’s so good. You can just scoop up that sauce. And the meatballs are perfectly seasoned.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3418\" data-end=\"3421\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3421\" data-end=\"3427\">JG\u003c/strong>: Unfortunately, I didn’t have the best meatball experience.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3487\" data-end=\"3490\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3490\" data-end=\"3508\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Oh, no.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3517\" data-end=\"3520\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3520\" data-end=\"3526\">JG\u003c/strong>: The bread was nice and warm, but the meatballs was kind of lukewarm, kind of cold. And I know that’s something that’s fixable, and I did get pizza. I actually went with the back rib and arugula pizza. The white sauce was really good. The beef rib was super tender, the crust was nice and chewy, and it’s actually a good shareable pizza for like two people.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3884\" data-end=\"3887\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3887\" data-end=\"3905\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: And did you wash that down with anything?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3948\" data-end=\"3951\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3951\" data-end=\"3957\">JG\u003c/strong>: I actually had a Mezcal club soda ’cause that’s usually my default cocktail. Their mezcal was a really good well, two limes, that’s like my Sprite — a spicy Sprite. That’s kind of what I rock with.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4156\" data-end=\"4159\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4159\" data-end=\"4178\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: I actually had the Lovely Locomotive. I thought it was great. It’s a gin-based drink with a peach puree. The gin wasn’t so strong, and it paired well with that puree. I got the lemon pesto shrimp pizza. I kind of went a little exotic with mine. And it was beautiful. It was really, really bright. It was garnished with this, like, dried lemon on top, it had chili flakes, and when you would bite into it, it had whole garlic that would kind of like pop in your mouth and give you kind of this sweetness.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4683\" data-end=\"4686\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4686\" data-end=\"4704\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, and they’ve got a whole selection of grilled items, right?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4775\" data-end=\"4778\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4778\" data-end=\"4796\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Oh, they do. They have prime rib Thursday through Sunday, they have Scottish salmon, chicken, and that lovely wood-fired rotisserie.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4930\" data-end=\"4933\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4933\" data-end=\"4952\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: My husband got the Pitman chicken. I had a few bites. It was extremely tender. But the thing that got my attention was actually the coleslaw. It had like a horseradish sauce. So it was a very bold flavor. And my husband said that was probably the favorite thing that he got.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5228\" data-end=\"5231\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5231\" data-end=\"5249\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Was the coleslaw?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5268\" data-end=\"5271\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5271\" data-end=\"5290\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Was the coleslaw, yeah.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5315\" data-end=\"5318\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5318\" data-end=\"5336\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Okay.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5343\" data-end=\"5346\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5346\" data-end=\"5364\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Their hummus is also delicious. They make their own pita bread, they put the hummus with Persian cucumbers, feta, some tomatoes to give it a little texture.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5522\" data-end=\"5525\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5525\" data-end=\"5543\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Nice. Did you have any dessert?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5576\" data-end=\"5579\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5579\" data-end=\"5597\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Celebration cake. We had the chocolate celebration cake. And it is wonderful. Nice chocolatey flavor. I think they put a little bit of coffee or espresso in there to balance out the richness of the cake. It’s served with a scoop of ice cream, and we’re usually fighting over finishing up that.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5892\" data-end=\"5895\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5895\" data-end=\"5901\">JG\u003c/strong>: I got the chocolate chip cookie brownie situation. Yeah, that’s delicious. I wish the cookie was sweeter, but the texture, the brownie, and everything was definitely nice.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6074\" data-end=\"6077\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6077\" data-end=\"6095\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: And what about the atmosphere?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6127\" data-end=\"6130\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6130\" data-end=\"6149\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: I love the atmosphere. The restaurant itself is really lovely and it’s right there next to the train.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6252\" data-end=\"6255\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6255\" data-end=\"6261\">JG\u003c/strong>: What makes it unique is actually the space. The patio is really beautiful. There’s a lot of natural light that’s inside. My biggest disappointment is I was just kind of standing there for a little bit, and it was really not that busy. And I’m, like, I’m just waiting to sit down.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6542\" data-end=\"6545\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6545\" data-end=\"6563\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Was it an off night?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6585\" data-end=\"6588\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6588\" data-end=\"6594\">JG\u003c/strong>: Could have been an off night.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6625\" data-end=\"6628\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6628\" data-end=\"6646\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: We’ve always had great customer service and friendly waiters.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6709\" data-end=\"6712\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6712\" data-end=\"6718\">JG\u003c/strong>: But that was just my personal experience, but I would definitely give it another chance for sure. I think it’s a very good large group setting spot because the menu is so vast, and I love how it’s close to public transit too, you know what I mean, and it’s free parking. You know, I live in San Francisco. Free parking is not the norm. Some free 90 minute parking, or I could take Caltrain and pull up and it’s right there. So it’s easy for people to get to as well.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7186\" data-end=\"7189\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7189\" data-end=\"7207\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Excellent. If you would like to try Rise Woodfire, it’s located on B Street in San Mateo, and the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $35.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"165\" data-end=\"268\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"165\" data-end=\"185\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: And now reporter Cecilia Phillips has more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"270\" data-end=\"272\">♪♪\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"274\" data-end=\"479\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"274\" data-end=\"294\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: So we’re here in San Jose at the Japantown Farmers Market, and the Obon Festival is happening. But this is a really awesome place to visit year round. What makes this area so special?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"481\" data-end=\"913\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"481\" data-end=\"498\">Jennifer Rast\u003c/strong>: It’s the most historic of the three Japantowns in the United States. We’re tiny, but mighty. We’ve got a lot of legacy businesses. My family’s been in Japantown for five generations doing agriculture in the Valley, so agriculture means everything to us. The Obon Festival is kind of like our version of Day of the Dead. It celebrates our ancestors. We dance, we have games, and then some foods over there as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"915\" data-end=\"952\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"915\" data-end=\"935\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Excellent food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"954\" data-end=\"978\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"954\" data-end=\"971\">Jennifer Rast\u003c/strong>: Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"980\" data-end=\"982\">♪♪\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"984\" data-end=\"1075\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"984\" data-end=\"1004\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Mogu mogu means, like, “num num” in English. Like chowing down sound.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1077\" data-end=\"1114\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1077\" data-end=\"1096\">Jennifer Kimura\u003c/strong>: Like, nyom-nyom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1116\" data-end=\"1206\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1116\" data-end=\"1136\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Nyom-nyom. Yes. So then I’m hoping that your food is yum-yum, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1208\" data-end=\"1242\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1208\" data-end=\"1227\">Jennifer Kimura\u003c/strong>: Very yum yum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1244\" data-end=\"1271\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1244\" data-end=\"1264\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1273\" data-end=\"1456\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1273\" data-end=\"1292\">Jennifer Kimura\u003c/strong>: We do make a beef curry sando, which is Wagyu beef with curry sauce that I make, a little bit of potato, one with the cheddar cheese, one with red cabbage pickle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1458\" data-end=\"1516\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1458\" data-end=\"1478\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Whoa! Delicious. Mogu mogu. Yum yum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1518\" data-end=\"1601\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1518\" data-end=\"1538\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: So you’ve been doing the Obon and doing tempura for 20 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1603\" data-end=\"1643\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1603\" data-end=\"1619\">Wayne Kogura\u003c/strong>: Close to 30 years now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1645\" data-end=\"1702\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1645\" data-end=\"1665\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Oh my gosh. Hot, fresh, fried food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1704\" data-end=\"1754\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1704\" data-end=\"1720\">Wayne Kogura\u003c/strong>: That’s what we’re talking about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1756\" data-end=\"1810\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1756\" data-end=\"1776\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: It is not cool here in San Jose.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1812\" data-end=\"2099\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1812\" data-end=\"1828\">Wayne Kogura\u003c/strong>: No, no, no, but we keep it cool. We got the good music going, we got the good refreshments. Yeah, we’re good. So today what we’re cooking is the tempura. Onions, we got green beans, we got zucchini, some yams, and one shrimp on top, and then there’s your dipping sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2101\" data-end=\"2147\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2101\" data-end=\"2138\">Wayne Kogura and Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2149\" data-end=\"2182\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2149\" data-end=\"2165\">Wayne Kogura\u003c/strong>: Cheers it. Top.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2184\" data-end=\"2241\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2184\" data-end=\"2204\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: So it’s light, airy, not too heavy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2243\" data-end=\"2266\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2243\" data-end=\"2259\">Wayne Kogura\u003c/strong>: Nope.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2268\" data-end=\"2299\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2268\" data-end=\"2288\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Not oily.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2301\" data-end=\"2323\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2301\" data-end=\"2317\">Wayne Kogura\u003c/strong>: Yep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2325\" data-end=\"2362\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2325\" data-end=\"2345\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: It’s delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2364\" data-end=\"2562\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2364\" data-end=\"2384\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: So we’re at the Obon Festival, and it’s all about remembering ancestors. Do you have anything that comes to your mind when you think of, like, ancestral dishes, family history?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2564\" data-end=\"2819\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2564\" data-end=\"2579\">Kristie Tam\u003c/strong>: That would be our guava cake. My grandparents owned Aki’s Bakery in Japantown and they were here for many years. So we brought our guava cake, and this is what Aki’s Bakery was known for. And we do the same thing just with a little twist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2821\" data-end=\"2932\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2821\" data-end=\"2841\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Ooh, look at this. The cake is so light. I’m never going to have anything more delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2934\" data-end=\"3034\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2934\" data-end=\"2949\">Kristie Tam\u003c/strong>: This is Imagawayaki, a Japanese pancake sandwich with red bean paste in the middle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3036\" data-end=\"3149\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3036\" data-end=\"3056\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: So this is a very traditional dish? Is it a dessert? Is it like a breakfast? Is it a snack?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3151\" data-end=\"3265\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3151\" data-end=\"3166\">Kristie Tam\u003c/strong>: I’ve had it at all times of the day, but we’ll call it a dessert just because of how sweet it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3267\" data-end=\"3328\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3267\" data-end=\"3287\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Mmm! They smell so good. These are hot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3330\" data-end=\"3356\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3330\" data-end=\"3345\">Kristie Tam\u003c/strong>: They are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3358\" data-end=\"3375\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3358\" data-end=\"3366\">Both\u003c/strong>: Cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3377\" data-end=\"3425\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3377\" data-end=\"3397\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Oh, my gosh, it’s so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3427\" data-end=\"3451\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3427\" data-end=\"3442\">Kristie Tam\u003c/strong>: Fluffy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3453\" data-end=\"3578\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3453\" data-end=\"3473\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: It’s so fluffy. And the red bean paste has only a little bit of sweetness. It’s actually pretty savory.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3602\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3595\">Kristie Tam\u003c/strong>: Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3604\" data-end=\"3670\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3604\" data-end=\"3624\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Half dessert, half you can have at any time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3672\" data-end=\"3730\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3672\" data-end=\"3687\">Kristie Tam\u003c/strong>: Yeah. I want these all the time actually.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3732\" data-end=\"3746\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3732\" data-end=\"3746\">Both laugh\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3748\" data-end=\"4237\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3748\" data-end=\"3766\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: I have to thank my great guests on this week’s show. JG, who raves about the rosemary fried chicken at Minnie Bell’s Soul Movement in San Francisco. Vanessa Guerra, lover of all things smoky and charred at Rise Woodfire in San Mateo. And Kristie Ramirez, who dreams of mimosas on the patio at Brezo in Albany. Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on “Check Please! Bay Area.” I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4239\" data-end=\"4255\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4239\" data-end=\"4246\">All\u003c/strong>: Cheers!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4257\" data-end=\"4304\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4257\" data-end=\"4275\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Cheers. I hope you had fun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4306\" data-end=\"4343\">[Conversation continues indistinctly]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4345\" data-end=\"4456\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4345\" data-end=\"4370\">Man\u003c/strong>: The temple here is a religious center. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"576\" data-end=\"594\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Seasonal Cal-Mex fusion in Albany.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"630\" data-end=\"633\" data-is-only-node=\"\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"633\" data-end=\"651\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: The blueberry pancakes.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"676\" data-end=\"679\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"679\" data-end=\"698\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Huge.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"705\" data-end=\"708\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"708\" data-end=\"726\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Huge.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"733\" data-end=\"736\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"679\" data-end=\"698\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: And wood-fired favorites in San Mateo. I kind of went a little exotic with mine.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"836\" data-end=\"839\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"839\" data-end=\"857\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Just ahead on \u003cem data-start=\"873\" data-end=\"901\">“Check, Please! Bay Area.”\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cbr data-start=\"901\" data-end=\"904\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"904\" data-end=\"924\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Ooh, look at this. I’m never going to have anything more delicious.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"993\" data-end=\"996\">[music playing]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1011\" data-end=\"1014\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1014\" data-end=\"1032\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem data-start=\"1069\" data-end=\"1096\">“Check Please! Bay Area,”\u003c/em> the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now we have three guests and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem data-start=\"1337\" data-end=\"1351\">Check Please\u003c/em> table today are culture curator JG, HR manager Vanessa Guerra, and graphic designer and illustrator Kristie Ramirez. Welcome, everyone.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1487\" data-end=\"1490\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1490\" data-end=\"1508\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Hi, Leslie.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1521\" data-end=\"1524\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1524\" data-end=\"1543\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: How are you doing?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1563\" data-end=\"1566\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1566\" data-end=\"1584\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Let’s kick things off with Kristie’s go-to brunch spot. Offering a blend of both California and Latin specialties, fresh mimosas, and a sunny patio to soak it all in, it’s the perfect place when this mom of two under two needs her own “timeout.” Located in Albany’s Solano Avenue district, it’s Brezo.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1887\" data-end=\"1890\">[music playing]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1905\" data-end=\"1908\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1908\" data-end=\"1927\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: Brezo is a family restaurant where we serve up a lot of just homey meals with a little Californian and Latin mix that makes people happy. Our menu here is a mix between me, a Californian, and him coming from Mexico.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2144\" data-end=\"2147\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2147\" data-end=\"2166\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: Who had chilaquiles?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2188\" data-end=\"2191\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2191\" data-end=\"2210\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: I grew up on a farm, so we wanted to make everything fresh and everything from scratch. We use recipes that I’ve been developing for a long time. Like the pancakes, we make a blueberry butter for the top, so it’s like blueberry on blueberry. The polenta is like from when I was a kid, my dad used to make me polenta for breakfast. We like to cook it slow and low, and we put lots of cheese.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2602\" data-end=\"2605\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2605\" data-end=\"2625\">Hector Hernandez\u003c/strong>: Lots.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2632\" data-end=\"2635\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2635\" data-end=\"2654\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: The yummy part.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2671\" data-end=\"2674\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2674\" data-end=\"2694\">Hector Hernandez\u003c/strong>: Yeah.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2701\" data-end=\"2704\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2704\" data-end=\"2716\">Customer\u003c/strong>: Wow. It’s so cheesy.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2738\" data-end=\"2741\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2741\" data-end=\"2760\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: On the Latin side, we have gordita, the sopes, chilaquiles — that’s more Mexico City. My favorite thing to cook is the braised lamb. It will take hours and hours to cook, but as soon as they come out, it’s the best thing ever. And then we have a little Latin. The chimichurri goes on top of it, and it’s like, that’s all the combination of us.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3106\" data-end=\"3109\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3109\" data-end=\"3128\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: Here at Brezo, we welcome everybody. You can come for a date or you can come with your kids. We put a lot of love in our food.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3256\" data-end=\"3259\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3259\" data-end=\"3278\">Heather Mervine\u003c/strong>: I love to put smiles on people’s faces. I couldn’t think of doing anything else. I think we’re, like, a really good team.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3401\" data-end=\"3404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3404\" data-end=\"3422\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Now, Kristie, what’s unique about Brezo is it is this mixture of cultures, isn’t it?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3508\" data-end=\"3511\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3511\" data-end=\"3530\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Yeah, definitely. You know, I love breakfast and I like the idea of using two different types of, kind of, my favorite food. I’ve gone all around the Bay Area trying to look for the best chilaquiles, and I think that they’re here. It’s a huge portion. It’s a perfect tomatillo sauce, the chips are always crisp. What makes it slightly different is they drizzle their own homemade salsa roja. So you’re kind of getting a mix of the two best worlds — the red sauce and the green sauce. I love ordering it with the egg over easy. Once you pop that little yolk and it kind of runs in, it adds like a buttery texture to the chilaquiles. So good. And it was kind of a girls day out, and so we had mimosas. I specifically had the peach cider mimosa. It was really light, bubbly, with a hint of the peach. I really enjoyed it and I think it complemented the chilaquiles really well.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4407\" data-end=\"4410\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4410\" data-end=\"4428\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: And it’s nice to have a cider.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4460\" data-end=\"4463\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4463\" data-end=\"4482\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Yeah. 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I only got through about half of that portion.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4936\" data-end=\"4939\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4939\" data-end=\"4957\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: So you get two meals.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4980\" data-end=\"4983\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4983\" data-end=\"5001\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: I got two meals. Yeah, exactly.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5034\" data-end=\"5037\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5037\" data-end=\"5055\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, JG, what was your experience?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5097\" data-end=\"5100\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5100\" data-end=\"5106\">JG\u003c/strong>: The staff was really, really friendly. The food was amazing. I actually went for a dinner and they have a salad called the calico salad. It’s like a southwestern, romaine lettuce, it has a nice zesty chili lime dressing to it, and it had a right amount of crunch to it. I wish it had more chips because who doesn’t like a good chip? And a little bit more avocado, but the overall salad was really good. And I had the lamb shank which was super fall-of-the-bone tender. It had a polenta that was nice and creamy. It had a nice, interesting sauce to it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"4463\" data-end=\"4482\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: You can never go wrong with their Mexican dishes as well. You know, when I’ve gone, their gorditas — they are handmade tortillas and they’re stuffed with meat, they have beans in them, their housemade salsa, cheese, lettuce. Very, very good.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5902\" data-end=\"5905\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5905\" data-end=\"5923\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Very good. Did you have anything else? Did you try anything else?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5990\" data-end=\"5993\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6583\" data-end=\"6601\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Well, we ordered a lot of food while we were there, so my sister got a cheeseburger that I had complete entrée envy over because it was on this huge brioche bun with tons of fun vegetables on it, bacon, cheese dripping off of it, huge burger. She could only get through about half, and then she got a really lovely side salad full of fresh veggies, garbanzo beans, cucumbers, and a delightful vinaigrette that was perfectly bright on the salad. Perfect accompaniment to that burger. And then my uncle, he got the blueberry pancakes, which were like–\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6551\" data-end=\"6554\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6554\" data-end=\"6573\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Huge.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6580\" data-end=\"6583\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6583\" data-end=\"6601\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Huge!\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6608\" data-end=\"6611\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6611\" data-end=\"6629\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: The size of your plate.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6654\" data-end=\"6657\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6657\" data-end=\"6675\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Yeah, the size of the plate, and there’s three of them. They had the blueberries folded into the batter, which was great. Tons of blueberries on top. I think it even had blueberries in the butter, which was a nice touch. And we got the Kahlua banana French toast, and that was also a fan favorite. It was nice and crispy, bananas — sweet, kind of that flambé style, and it was delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"6554\" data-end=\"6573\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: One thing I also did want to note that we had the scones. Oh, my God. They are so good. The scone itself was very fluffy. Cut in half, it was filled with a cream. And then it had a really nice preserve on it. And I felt like it was a great balance, because the acidity of that preserve really cut through that sweetness and heaviness of that cream.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7414\" data-end=\"7417\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7417\" data-end=\"7435\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Now come on, JG, you’re getting a little breakfast envy over there, aren’t you?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7516\" data-end=\"7519\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7519\" data-end=\"7525\">JG\u003c/strong>: I’m not an egg fan, actually, so I’m super limited with breakfast. So, like, I didn’t know that chilaquiles was that fire. I would get that without the egg ’cause I’ve done that before. I wish I would have definitely got the chilaquiles, ’cause now the way you explain it, I’m like, okay.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7815\" data-end=\"7818\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7818\" data-end=\"7836\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Well, you can always go back.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7867\" data-end=\"7870\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7870\" data-end=\"7876\">JG\u003c/strong>: Oh yeah, definitely. For sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"7818\" data-end=\"7836\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: You can always go back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"7870\" data-end=\"7876\">JG\u003c/strong>: And like I said, the staff was really cool. Definitely nice to know that there’s scones there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"8186\" data-end=\"8204\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: We were super disappointed ’cause I wanted to try that scone, but they sold out, so it must be very popular.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8136\" data-end=\"8139\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8139\" data-end=\"8158\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Oh, yeah. It’s so good.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8183\" data-end=\"8186\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8186\" data-end=\"8204\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Oh, I’m sure.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8219\" data-end=\"8222\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8222\" data-end=\"8241\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Go back for that.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8260\" data-end=\"8263\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8263\" data-end=\"8281\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Yeah, we’ll have to do that.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8311\" data-end=\"8314\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8314\" data-end=\"8332\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, if you would like to try Brezo, it’s located on Solano Avenue in Albany. The average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $65.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8487\" data-end=\"8490\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"8490\" data-end=\"8508\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: JG’s local favorite dishes up Southern classics paired with an equally warm side of hospitality. Whenever he’s craving the chef’s signature fried chicken and rich mac and cheese, he heads to San Francisco’s historic Fillmore District, home to Minnie Bell’s Soul Movement.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"8781\" data-end=\"8784\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"575\">Fernay McPherson\u003c/strong>: Soul food can be any type of cuisine. It’s just what resonates to people in their spirit, in their souls. It’s comfort food, you know? So I want people to feel that comfort when they’re eating it. Minnie is my great aunt, and Lillie Bell was my grandmother. Everything is food that I learned to cook from them with just little twists and spins that I learned over the years. I grew up going to church, and after church it was fried chicken, you know, dinners that people wanted. So I wanted to do something that just really resonated with my childhood, something that was scratch-made. But I also wanted to put a little twist on it, so that’s where my rosemary fried chicken came from. We have all your classic Southern sides, which is collard greens, mac and cheese, cornbread, which is my favorite. So we’re going to put that brown butter in slowly so that we don’t cook our eggs. The brown butter in our cornbread just adds another layer of flavor that really has people thinking, “What is this?” Like, what’s in this cornbread? I hear people say, “I don’t even like cornbread, but this is some good cornbread.” The Fillmore is the neighborhood that I was born and raised in. My great aunt Minnie and my grandmother, when they migrated here, they saw a different Fillmore. The fact that I am able to open up this Black-owned restaurant in a historic, Black-owned neighborhood, to be here and represent that bygone era is just so important.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2019\" data-end=\"2022\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2022\" data-end=\"2034\">Customer\u003c/strong>: How you doing?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2050\" data-end=\"2053\" data-is-only-node=\"\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2053\" data-end=\"2073\">Fernay McPherson\u003c/strong>: When people come in here and they tell me how proud they are, how they have a space that feels like home to them, it makes me feel good that I’m able to do that. I’m here. I’m home. I appreciate everybody. Thank you.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2291\" data-end=\"2294\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2294\" data-end=\"2312\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Now, JG, have you been a fan of Chef Fernay for a long time?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2374\" data-end=\"2377\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2377\" data-end=\"2383\">JG\u003c/strong>: For a good moment, um, she was actually in Emeryville prior to, at the public market. That’s kind of, like, where I found it randomly one day. But honestly, I think that it has a different flavor and just energy coming from the Fillmore District because of, historically, where she’s from. It’s just one of those places where you just feel at home. And the rosemary fried chicken is something that’s just — I think is very unique with the brine. Leg and thighs is my go-to. So sometimes four is not enough, unfortunately, so I usually get like an eight piece. They have a house hot sauce that they make. It has a nice, like–\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3011\" data-end=\"3014\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3014\" data-end=\"3032\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Kick to it.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3045\" data-end=\"3048\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3048\" data-end=\"3054\">JG\u003c/strong>: It’s just a nice kick to it, yeah. Like a nice kick. And they come with sides whether you get the four or the eight, And the yams has a nice sweet nutmeg, cinnamon, whatever it is, that I just imagine that yams would be ’cause growing up my grandma used to put vanilla extract, cinnamon, and nutmeg in it. And just like a big hug, actually.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3396\" data-end=\"3399\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3399\" data-end=\"3417\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, now tell me about that mac and cheese that goes with it.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3486\" data-end=\"3489\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3489\" data-end=\"3495\">JG\u003c/strong>: The mac and cheese is definitely her signature.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3544\" data-end=\"3547\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3565\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Yeah.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3572\" data-end=\"3575\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3575\" data-end=\"3581\">JG\u003c/strong>: And that’s one of the few places that I enjoy the mac and cheese in public because of the layers of cheese and how gooey it is.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3710\" data-end=\"3713\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3713\" data-end=\"3732\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Yeah, so I have to agree. The mac and cheese was super cheesy, very creamy. But for me, the braised greens were the star of the show. Perfect seasoning, the broth was really good, like, I basically killed that by myself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"4434\" data-end=\"4452\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Those were the best collard greens, braised collard greens I’ve ever had. They were delicious. We got the pickled vegetables also, They house make them, it’s in a quick pickle. And there is four or five different kinds of vegetables in there that really also helped cut the richness of the chicken, along with the richness of the collard greens and the hot sauces and everything. It was really great on the palate. Loved those.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4382\" data-end=\"4385\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4385\" data-end=\"4403\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Did you get fried chicken?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4431\" data-end=\"4434\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4434\" data-end=\"4452\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: We did. We got the fried chicken and the wings in a hot honey sauce. And the wings were a huge portion of these, like, six or eight dinosaur-sized wings. And when we saw those come out first, I thought, “Oh dear, we probably over-ordered again.” And we only got through about half of those before we started moving on to the four-piece chicken that we ordered.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4814\" data-end=\"4817\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4817\" data-end=\"4835\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Right, and fried chicken for you?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4870\" data-end=\"4873\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4873\" data-end=\"4892\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: You know, I’m not a huge fried chicken fan and that place made me a fan.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4966\" data-end=\"4969\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4969\" data-end=\"4987\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Okay, there we go. High praise.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5020\" data-end=\"5023\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4873\" data-end=\"4892\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: I have to say that rosemary, the seasoning, it’s just so unique to me. Also, we’re, like, hot sauce people, so we have to add hot sauce. But, you know, the chicken can stand alone without the hot sauce also.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5250\" data-end=\"5253\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5253\" data-end=\"5271\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, and did you have anything to drink?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5319\" data-end=\"5322\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4873\" data-end=\"4892\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: Yeah, I actually had the sangria and it was really refreshing, light, paired really well with that chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"4873\" data-end=\"4892\">JG\u003c/strong>: I like that their wine menu is from Black vendors as well, which is pretty cool. That kind of encompasses that Fillmore energy.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5577\" data-end=\"5580\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5580\" data-end=\"5598\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right. Did you have dessert?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5632\" data-end=\"5635\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5635\" data-end=\"5654\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: I did, I had their banana pudding, which was kind of like a crème brûlée. It was the fusion that I didn’t know that I needed so badly in my life. Me and my husband were, like, fighting for the last bite of it. You know, it had that beautiful crème brûlée that you crack into. It was, like, super creamy. Never experienced a dessert like that.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5998\" data-end=\"6001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6001\" data-end=\"6019\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: We had the sour cream pound cake that had a caramel drizzle on it, and some homemade whipped cream on the side. Came with a bunch of strawberries and it was so good. It wasn’t too sweet. It wasn’t too dense. It was perfect and kind of had to hide it at the very, very back of my fridge when I got home so nobody else would gobble it down later that night but me. So, delicious. Highly–\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6407\" data-end=\"6410\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6410\" data-end=\"6428\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Had no calories either.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6453\" data-end=\"6456\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6456\" data-end=\"6474\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Zero calories.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"6583\" data-end=\"6589\">JG: \u003c/strong>I don’t know if you guys got the cornbread.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6534\" data-end=\"6537\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6537\" data-end=\"6555\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: The cornbread was good.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6580\" data-end=\"6583\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6583\" data-end=\"6589\">JG\u003c/strong>: The honey butter cornbread is definitely where it’s at, too. I’m not a big dessert fan personally, so I usually opt out of desserts.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6723\" data-end=\"6726\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6726\" data-end=\"6744\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Well, you got cornbread and yams.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6779\" data-end=\"6782\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6782\" data-end=\"6788\">JG\u003c/strong>: I got yams. I think I got enough sugar for the day. And the vibe there, to me, is what you think of the Harlem of the West would be. I think it brings a different light into a neighborhood that really needs some light on it, and it has a really historical, happy thing to say about culture. So that’s the reason why I like going there, ’cause for me, it’s nostalgic. It has great music, great people, and it brings people together in a way that I think people in San Francisco should be together.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7286\" data-end=\"7289\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7385\" data-end=\"7403\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: I mean, the vibe in there is really comfortable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong data-start=\"6726\" data-end=\"6744\">Leslie Sbrocco: \u003c/strong>It’s about hospitality.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7382\" data-end=\"7385\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7385\" data-end=\"7403\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Hospitality all the way. It was a wonderful little restaurant. It’s small, but it felt very big and a lot of spirit. And the personality of it was great.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7558\" data-end=\"7561\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7561\" data-end=\"7579\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, I think you got some fans, JG.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7622\" data-end=\"7625\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7625\" data-end=\"7643\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Yeah.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7650\" data-end=\"7653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7653\" data-end=\"7671\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: If you would like to try Minnie Bell’s Soul Movement, It’s located on Fillmore Street in San Francisco, and the average multi-course tab per person without drinks is around $45.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"7850\" data-end=\"7853\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"7853\" data-end=\"7871\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Vanessa says any way you slice it, her restaurant serves some of the Bay Area’s most delectable wood-fired pizzas. But that’s just a small part of the draw for her. The high ceilings, lively bar, and family-friendly vibe, all make for a great night out, no matter what the occasion. Located in San Mateo, it’s Rise Woodfire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[music playing]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"501\" data-end=\"504\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"504\" data-end=\"519\">Omid Zahedi\u003c/strong>: The cuisine at Rise Woodfire is Italian American comfort food, as well as American comfort food. All the things that we grew up on with a chef’s touch.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"672\" data-end=\"675\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"675\" data-end=\"692\">Susan Payrovi\u003c/strong>: We decided to call this Rise because Omid has been working on his dough for seven years.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"782\" data-end=\"785\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"785\" data-end=\"800\">Omid Zahedi\u003c/strong>: There’s four flours that make up the pizza dough. It has wheat germ in it, rye in it, it also has whole wheat, and then it has a high-powered, high-gluten flour. This dough has already seen four rises. The fifth rise is when it goes in the oven, and that’s the final rise. You can make a pretty good pizza at home, but there’s no competing with giant 5,000 pound brick oven from Naples, Italy. We use almond wood. It just adds another layer of flavor. This is our prosciutto slicer. It is actually hand-cranked. We want it to go nice and slow and give us paper thin prosciutto. My love affair with the menu or any individual item kind of rotates in and out. Our prime rib is awesome. Sometimes I’m all about just a straight-up Napoli pizza, other times it’s all about the wings.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1580\" data-end=\"1583\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1583\" data-end=\"1600\">Susan Payrovi\u003c/strong>: I actually love the chicken. It has a really good flavor to it. You know, the white meat is great, the dark meat is great, and the different sauces. A big hit is the chimichurri.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1780\" data-end=\"1783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1783\" data-end=\"1798\">Omid Zahedi\u003c/strong>: We love being here at the train station. The ambiance of this place with the 40-foot ceilings, I think we got the largest, tallest bar, maybe in the peninsula. [Laughs] One of the funny things that happens here is sometimes the conductors will give us a phone call and place a pizza order, and then we’ll have it ready for them, and then they’ll just run in and throw a 20 down, and grab it and jump back into the train and take off. I’ve eaten thousands of pizzas and I’m still not tired of it. Yummy! There’s a lot of things to disagree about, but pizza has no enemies. [Laughs]\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2380\" data-end=\"2383\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2383\" data-end=\"2390\">All\u003c/strong>: Cheers!\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2399\" data-end=\"2402\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2402\" data-end=\"2420\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: Now, Vanessa, they do a very large menu here, don’t they?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2479\" data-end=\"2482\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2482\" data-end=\"2500\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: They do. Pretty eclectic menu.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2532\" data-end=\"2535\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2535\" data-end=\"2553\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: And is that one of the reasons you love it so much?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2606\" data-end=\"2609\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2609\" data-end=\"2627\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: I do. My daughter is a vegan, my son’s a full carnivore, and there’s something on the menu for all of us there. We always start with the prosciutto and arugula pizza. Their crust is nice and chewy and especially love the delicate slicing on the prosciutto. I love the meatballs. The meatballs are absolutely delicious. They’re soft, they’re in a very savory, robust meat sauce. It comes with a very delicate crostini. It’s a perfect accompaniment to the richness of the meatballs.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3109\" data-end=\"3112\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3112\" data-end=\"3131\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: I actually started also with meatballs, and I have to say that I loved them. I feel like that tomato sauce was what made that meatball.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3268\" data-end=\"3271\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3271\" data-end=\"3289\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Isn’t it good?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3305\" data-end=\"3308\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3308\" data-end=\"3327\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: It’s so good. You can just scoop up that sauce. And the meatballs are perfectly seasoned.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3418\" data-end=\"3421\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3421\" data-end=\"3427\">JG\u003c/strong>: Unfortunately, I didn’t have the best meatball experience.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3487\" data-end=\"3490\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3490\" data-end=\"3508\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Oh, no.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3517\" data-end=\"3520\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3520\" data-end=\"3526\">JG\u003c/strong>: The bread was nice and warm, but the meatballs was kind of lukewarm, kind of cold. And I know that’s something that’s fixable, and I did get pizza. I actually went with the back rib and arugula pizza. The white sauce was really good. The beef rib was super tender, the crust was nice and chewy, and it’s actually a good shareable pizza for like two people.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3884\" data-end=\"3887\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3887\" data-end=\"3905\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: And did you wash that down with anything?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3948\" data-end=\"3951\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3951\" data-end=\"3957\">JG\u003c/strong>: I actually had a Mezcal club soda ’cause that’s usually my default cocktail. Their mezcal was a really good well, two limes, that’s like my Sprite — a spicy Sprite. That’s kind of what I rock with.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4156\" data-end=\"4159\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4159\" data-end=\"4178\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: I actually had the Lovely Locomotive. I thought it was great. It’s a gin-based drink with a peach puree. The gin wasn’t so strong, and it paired well with that puree. I got the lemon pesto shrimp pizza. I kind of went a little exotic with mine. And it was beautiful. It was really, really bright. It was garnished with this, like, dried lemon on top, it had chili flakes, and when you would bite into it, it had whole garlic that would kind of like pop in your mouth and give you kind of this sweetness.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4683\" data-end=\"4686\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4686\" data-end=\"4704\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>: All right, and they’ve got a whole selection of grilled items, right?\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4775\" data-end=\"4778\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4778\" data-end=\"4796\">Vanessa Guerra\u003c/strong>: Oh, they do. They have prime rib Thursday through Sunday, they have Scottish salmon, chicken, and that lovely wood-fired rotisserie.\u003cbr>\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4930\" data-end=\"4933\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4933\" data-end=\"4952\">Kristie Ramirez\u003c/strong>: My husband got the Pitman chicken. I had a few bites. It was extremely tender. 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Yum yum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1518\" data-end=\"1601\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1518\" data-end=\"1538\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: So you’ve been doing the Obon and doing tempura for 20 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1603\" data-end=\"1643\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1603\" data-end=\"1619\">Wayne Kogura\u003c/strong>: Close to 30 years now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1645\" data-end=\"1702\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1645\" data-end=\"1665\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong>: Oh my gosh. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 20, episode 3, airs Thursday, April 24, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just steps from Benicia’s waterfront, \u003cstrong>Got Plate Lunch\u003c/strong> brings a taste of Hawaii to the North Bay, serving up island-style comfort food with an extra helping of aloha. Diners dig into da “Mixed Plate”, featuring a little bit of everything, along with crispy kalua pork tots and the rich, savory ultimate loco moco, complete with beef patties, grilled Spam, and fried eggs. Nestled in the heart of North Berkeley, \u003cstrong>Via del Corso\u003c/strong> brings the flavors of central Italy to the Bay Area, with handmade pastas, slow-braised meats, and a menu inspired by the country’s diverse culinary regions. The ravioli alla coda di bue, stuffed with slow-braised oxtail, and the garlicky tagliolini alle vongole are standouts, while the creme caramel di zucca — a pumpkin custard with cranberry compote — makes for a perfect sweet finish. Rounding out the episode, \u003cstrong>Curry Leaves Bistro\u003c/strong> in Pleasanton takes guests on a journey through the vibrant street food of Penang, Malaysia. The bold, smoky char kway teow, wok-fried with prawns and bursting with wok hei — the inimitable flavor imparted by the wok — is a must-try, as is the crispy roti canai served with fragrant chicken curry. To cap off the episode, reporter Cecilia Phillips immerses herself in the high-energy world of \u003cstrong>Bhangra and Beats\u003c/strong>, a San Francisco festival that brings together pulsating Punjabi rhythms, electrifying dance performances, and a vibrant night bazaar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23469\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23469 size-medium\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b.png 1620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Dashini Jeyathurai, Erin Hurd and Rashawn Moore from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.gotplatelunchca.com/\">\u003cstrong>Got Plate Lunch\u003c/strong> (Benicia)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.viadelcorso.net/\">\u003cstrong>Via del Corso\u003c/strong> (Berkeley)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.curryleavesbistro.com/\">\u003cstrong>Curry Leaves Bistro \u003c/strong>(Pleasanton)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bhangraandbeats.com/\">\u003cstrong>Bhangra and Beats\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23465\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-800x450.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-800x450.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-1020x574.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-160x90.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-768x432.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-1536x864.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://presquilewine.com/wines/aligote/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #008000\">\u003cstrong>Presqu’ile 2023 Aligoté\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Santa Maria Valley, California $36\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nFor those who are into finding wine discoveries, this is one to put on your list. The family-owned winery is in the beautiful Santa Maria Valley of Santa Barbara County. Hailing from the Presqu’ile Vineyard, which is situated among the top vineyards of California (think Sanford and Benedict and Bien Nacido), their debut Aligoté is a complex yet approachable white. The grape is known in France’s Burgundy region but less well known across the world. To taste such a unique variety in California is a treat. Alluring fresh lime aromas followed by tart lemon cream flavors, the dry, crisp white lingers on the palate. Don’t miss the eye-catching, artist-designed label that pays homage to the family’s Mississippi Gulf Coast roots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://domaineedem.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #008000\">\u003cstrong>Domaine EdeM 2024 “N.0 (ROSÆ)” Dealcoholized Sparkling Rosé\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>La Mancha, Spain $27\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nOne of the hottest trends in wine is offerings with no alcohol. This new entry into the market is a quality-driven yet quaffable creation. It honors Elena Maza, the wife of Nicolás Catena, head of Argentina’s most famous wine family. Elena requested that her daughter, Laura Catena, and the Catena Institute of Wine craft “something lighter than traditional wine yet enjoyable as an aperitif before dinner.” This ethereal sipper is made with Airén grape juice from Toledo, Spain, using a specialized process that removes alcohol at low temperatures. Rose petals are then infused before bottling to capture a floral, citrus tanginess that makes your mouth water. A perfect aperitif and a refreshing drink on warm summer days for picnics and poolside.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"139\" data-end=\"303\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"139\" data-end=\"158\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hawaiian comfort food in Benicia…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"139\" data-end=\"303\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"139\" data-end=\"158\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> The soy sauce, the umami, the sweetness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"139\" data-end=\"303\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"372\">Leslie Sbrocco: \u003c/strong>Trattoria classics in Berkeley… Everything is better with butter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"305\" data-end=\"351\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"833\" data-end=\"851\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> This type of butter? Yes. Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"499\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"372\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And Malaysian curries in Pleasanton.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"499\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"786\" data-end=\"809\">Dashini Jeyathurai: \u003c/strong>It’s like the Malaysian embassy of the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"499\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"372\">Leslie Sbrocco: \u003c/strong>Just ahead on \u003cem data-start=\"473\" data-end=\"499\">Check, Please! Bay Area.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"501\" data-end=\"609\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"501\" data-end=\"520\">Aurum Kathuria:\u003c/strong> You can tell when someone likes it based on how much of a sip they take. That was a sip!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"611\" data-end=\"639\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"611\" data-end=\"625\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> It’s so good!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"641\" data-end=\"1137\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"641\" data-end=\"660\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem data-start=\"696\" data-end=\"722\">Check, Please! Bay Area,\u003c/em> the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. We have three guests and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem data-start=\"959\" data-end=\"975\">Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today, are Senior Director \u003cstrong data-start=\"1009\" data-end=\"1031\">Dashini Jeyathurai\u003c/strong>, healthcare administrator \u003cstrong data-start=\"1058\" data-end=\"1075\">Rashawn Moore\u003c/strong>, and facilities coordinator \u003cstrong data-start=\"1104\" data-end=\"1117\">Erin Hurd\u003c/strong>. Welcome, everyone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1139\" data-end=\"1158\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1139\" data-end=\"1147\">All:\u003c/strong> Thank you!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1194\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1179\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Are you ready?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1196\" data-end=\"1249\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1196\" data-end=\"1207\">Guests:\u003c/strong> We’re ready. We’re so excited to dive in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1251\" data-end=\"1582\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1251\" data-end=\"1270\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Let’s do it. Alright, it’s time to say aloha to Erin’s favorite lunchtime hangout. Offering island classics like fresh poke, spam musubi, and loco moco just steps from the beach, it’s the perfect place to satisfy her Hawaiian comfort food cravings. Located along the waterfront in Benicia, it’s Got Plate Lunch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1584\" data-end=\"1599\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1601\" data-end=\"1635\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1601\" data-end=\"1612\">Server:\u003c/strong> I have your loco moco!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1637\" data-end=\"1662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1637\" data-end=\"1651\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Thank you!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1859\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1681\">Myk Bigornia:\u003c/strong> The aloha spirit in Hawaii is probably like no other place in the world. How are you guys doing? You brought the whole baseball team! We try to represent more of an island vibe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1861\" data-end=\"1890\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1861\" data-end=\"1874\">Customer:\u003c/strong> Happy birthday!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1892\" data-end=\"1918\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1892\" data-end=\"1902\">Group:\u003c/strong> Happy birthday!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1920\" data-end=\"2311\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1920\" data-end=\"1937\">Myk Bigornia:\u003c/strong> Slower paced, more relaxed. Got Plate Lunch is a restaurant that brings back the flavors of Hawaii that my wife and I grew up with. Plate lunch is a multicultural food. Japanese, Chinese, Filipino… It’s derived from the days of the plantation workers, all different ethnicities, eating lunch together, and they didn’t know how to communicate. But through lunch, they did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2313\" data-end=\"2415\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2313\" data-end=\"2323\">Jamie Bigornia:\u003c/strong> Plate lunch is two scoops of rice, meat entree, and mac salad. Everything we make is fresh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2417\" data-end=\"2535\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2417\" data-end=\"2434\">Myk Bigornia:\u003c/strong> Fresh ahi poke… Bath time, kimchi. Our Kalua pork and cabbage is smoked, slow cooked for 24 hours.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2537\" data-end=\"2571\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2537\" data-end=\"2550\">Customer:\u003c/strong> This is my favorite.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2573\" data-end=\"2673\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2573\" data-end=\"2583\">Jamie Bigornia:\u003c/strong> So, it’s flavorful, moist, and what we say in Hawaii… That means, like, it literally…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2675\" data-end=\"2711\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2675\" data-end=\"2689\">Customers:\u003c/strong> Delicious. Delicious!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2713\" data-end=\"3018\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2713\" data-end=\"2730\">Myk Bigornia:\u003c/strong> I love to eat the loco moco. I eat it five or six times a week. Ground beef patties seared on the flat top placed on top of rice with two over-easy eggs, and then smothered in our own proprietary brown gravy. It’s fabulous. [Chuckles] It’s fabulous. I’m getting hungry thinking about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3020\" data-end=\"3035\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3037\" data-end=\"3185\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3037\" data-end=\"3054\">Myk Bigornia:\u003c/strong> In Benicia, I think there’s three or four restaurants with a true water view, and everybody tells us that we’ve got the best view.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3187\" data-end=\"3292\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3187\" data-end=\"3197\">Jamie Bigornia:\u003c/strong> We get to see the sunset every night, so be comfortable and enjoy the view and enjoy the food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3294\" data-end=\"3405\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3294\" data-end=\"3313\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Erin. Got Plate Lunch started out as a food truck. Is that how you first found it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3407\" data-end=\"3984\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3407\" data-end=\"3421\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Actually, no. I actually found them at their brick and mortar store. I was just craving some really good Hawaiian food that wasn’t a chain restaurant, and had those comfort foods that I look for. My favorite dish is absolutely, hands down, the ultimate loco moco that they have because it is so simple, yet so delicious. Two scoops of rice and two hamburger patties on the ultimate, actually, and two pieces of spam, and then two runny eggs, and then you top that with some brown gravy and a side of mac salad. And it is just all the calories, but all delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3986\" data-end=\"4033\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3986\" data-end=\"4005\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And a carb lover’s delight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4035\" data-end=\"4061\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4035\" data-end=\"4049\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Absolutely!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4063\" data-end=\"4104\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4063\" data-end=\"4082\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Carb lover’s delight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"784\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"833\" data-end=\"851\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> I’ll usually start with a salad. I was going to be basic with, like, a regular garden one, but I’m like, no, let’s not be basic. What I had was the grilled pineapple salad and three different types of leaves, green leaves, and then they just grill the pineapple and then they make, like, a garlic pineapple vinaigrette. I even asked them, I was like, “What do y’all put in here?” And they were like, “We can’t tell you!” And then, I’m tasting it, I’m like, “I know exactly what that is.” So, I’m going to try to make it at home. I haven’t yet, but it was so good. I love the smokiness from the grilled pineapple. I’ve never had that on a salad before and it was amazing. And then, I had the loaded tater tots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"786\" data-end=\"831\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"786\" data-end=\"809\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Ooh, I got that, too!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"833\" data-end=\"984\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"833\" data-end=\"851\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> So good, with the smokiness from the meat, and it had, like, honey mustard sauce, but then it had a lot of tang and really upped it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"986\" data-end=\"1073\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"986\" data-end=\"1009\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I loved how crispy those were. I like the salad idea next time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1075\" data-end=\"1124\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1075\" data-end=\"1089\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> You go straight for the loco moco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1126\" data-end=\"1277\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1126\" data-end=\"1149\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Oh, I absolutely do. I mean, I do have, there’s the spam muwasabi, and so, that has a actual wasabi aioli that they put on top.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1279\" data-end=\"1337\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1279\" data-end=\"1298\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s a little creative twist, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1339\" data-end=\"1444\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1339\" data-end=\"1353\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Yeah, it has that little bit of kick, but not too much, from the wasabi. And it’s amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1446\" data-end=\"1803\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1446\" data-end=\"1469\">Rashawn Moore: \u003c/strong> I got the Portuguese sausage musubi. It was so good, not like normal musubi. It comes with the rice on the top and the bottom, has a little bit of a sweet teriyaki sauce in the middle, and then, it’s wrapped in seaweed. The Portuguese sausage has a little bit of a smokiness and the sweetness, and it’s just really, really delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1805\" data-end=\"2129\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1805\" data-end=\"1819\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I also had Da Mixed Plate, which has Portuguese sausage, there’s spam, and then there’s also some teriyaki chicken, and it’s just perfectly grilled, loaded with the soy sauce, the umami, the sweetness. And that chicken just has the perfect amount of char on it to where it gives it flavor, but not bitterness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2131\" data-end=\"2411\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1446\" data-end=\"1469\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I also had an udon noodle dish which came with vegetables. We had cabbage, peppers… This one was a little more on the sweet side for me. I would love something a little bit more savory, but we took it home, added some hot sauce to it, and got it to my flavor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2413\" data-end=\"2446\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2413\" data-end=\"2432\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Unbelievable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2448\" data-end=\"2705\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2448\" data-end=\"2462\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I do get the saimin, which is very Hawaiian, traditional. It is just like this big bowl of these egg noodle saimin, and it has slices of spam. It just has all of this umami and flavor. It’s just so delicious, it takes me right back to Hawaii.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2707\" data-end=\"2794\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2707\" data-end=\"2726\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And they do have sort of Hawaiian drinks, and Hawaiian, you know…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2796\" data-end=\"2819\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2796\" data-end=\"2814\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2821\" data-end=\"2909\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2821\" data-end=\"2835\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Yeah. The last time that I went, they had something called the sun mosas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2911\" data-end=\"2935\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2911\" data-end=\"2930\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ooh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2937\" data-end=\"3032\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2937\" data-end=\"2951\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> So, they had a flight of mimosas that were mixed with different flavors of wine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3034\" data-end=\"3096\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3034\" data-end=\"3053\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’ll really put you in the island mood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3098\" data-end=\"3133\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3098\" data-end=\"3112\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Oh, yes. Absolutely!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3135\" data-end=\"3527\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3135\" data-end=\"3158\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I got one of the ube mochi desserts, which was really delicious. I brought my 7-year-old with me, and so there had to be a dessert ordered at the end of the meal. One of the things that I noticed about this place was that it reminded me so much of, like, restaurants that I’d gone to in Hawaii. It’s a really great, like, chill island vibe restaurant, which was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3529\" data-end=\"3749\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3529\" data-end=\"3547\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> I went there right when it opened, and within the next 20 minutes, it was packed. And a place that’s so far away and by itself, you wouldn’t expect it to be super, super packed, but they was coming in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3751\" data-end=\"3928\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3751\" data-end=\"3770\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright! If you would like to go to Got Plate Lunch, it’s located on West 9th Street in Benicia, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $25.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"78\" data-end=\"387\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"78\" data-end=\"97\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Rashawn’s a culinary school grad who dreams of having his own restaurant one day. In the meantime, he’s happy to perch right up at the counter at his neighborhood trattoria, watching the chefs prepare all the classic Italian fare his heart desires. Located in Berkeley, it’s Via del Corso.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"389\" data-end=\"755\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"389\" data-end=\"409\">Massimo Orlando:\u003c/strong> Via del Corso is a neighborhood restaurant. Come in, relax, and just have a great time. Via del Corso is a boulevard in Rome. A lot of the regions of Italy have their names on the streets that come into that boulevard. It’s a landmark in Rome. When we opened the restaurant, we thought we didn’t want to just cook one region, but all over Italy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"757\" data-end=\"915\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"757\" data-end=\"776\">Peter Chastain:\u003c/strong> We’ve been working together for about 22 years. He’s from Emilia-Romagna. My grandfather was from Tuscany. So, we argue about seasoning…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"917\" data-end=\"1156\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"917\" data-end=\"937\">Massimo Orlando:\u003c/strong> My dad’s from Sicily. I do a lot of southern Italian cooking, as well. My cooking started when I was a really young age from my grandma. We used to make ravioli during holidays. The love of food, that’s how we started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1158\" data-end=\"1630\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1158\" data-end=\"1177\">Peter Chastain:\u003c/strong> These are beautiful truffles. We use products that a lot of people cut corners on. Prosciutto di San Daniele that’s 20 years, not 10 years. Burrata that’s made by a women-owned cooperative in Puglia and it’s just to die for. Real aceto balsamico tradizionale. We make pasta uovo, which is fresh egg pasta. One of the signature dishes is tagliatelle al ragù. People call it bolognese, but it is not bolognese. It’s a ragù from the countryside of Emilia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1632\" data-end=\"1692\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1632\" data-end=\"1652\">Massimo Orlando:\u003c/strong> My grandma used to cook me tagliatelle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1694\" data-end=\"1764\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1694\" data-end=\"1713\">Peter Chastain:\u003c/strong> People go nuts for that. We really like that dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1766\" data-end=\"1819\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1766\" data-end=\"1786\">Massimo Orlando:\u003c/strong> Can’t take that off of the menu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1821\" data-end=\"2350\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1821\" data-end=\"1840\">Peter Chastain:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that’s right. Our wine list is exclusively Italian, which is rare in California. Wine is part of the meal in Italy. We had to have a glass of wine before we left the table when we were 7 years old in my family. The biggest comments we get from people is that it’s such a great vibe. People tell me that almost every night. It’s a small place, and yes, it’s a little bit loud, but the food speaks for itself. We’re trying to really ring the real memory bells of Italy cooked here in Berkeley, California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2352\" data-end=\"2502\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2352\" data-end=\"2371\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Fantastic. That’s fantastic. Alright, Rashawn, is this the next best thing to, you know, being on a trip to Florence or something?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2504\" data-end=\"2556\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2504\" data-end=\"2522\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Might even be better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2558\" data-end=\"2580\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2558\" data-end=\"2569\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2582\" data-end=\"2647\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2582\" data-end=\"2600\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> You have to deal with the hassle of the plane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2649\" data-end=\"2699\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2649\" data-end=\"2668\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. No plane rides.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2701\" data-end=\"2898\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2701\" data-end=\"2719\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Being born and raised in Berkeley, you know, I’ve watched a bunch of different restaurants come and go. This one has been there for years. Great chefs, great service, great wine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2944\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What do you order first?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2946\" data-end=\"3241\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2946\" data-end=\"2964\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> So, I always start with the lattuga, and it’s almost like a Caesar salad, but heavy on the citrus and the lemon. It also comes with the parmesan cheese on top. This romaine lettuce is really crisp. There’s not a wilted leaf in there at all. Very lightly dressed. It’s perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3243\" data-end=\"3301\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3243\" data-end=\"3262\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright. Did you start with the salad?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3303\" data-end=\"3392\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3303\" data-end=\"3317\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I did not start with the salad, but I did have the burrata and prosciutto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3394\" data-end=\"3443\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3394\" data-end=\"3413\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You can’t go wrong with that!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3445\" data-end=\"3739\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3445\" data-end=\"3459\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> You cannot, it’s drizzled with this aged balsamic that’s sweet, yet has a little bit of tang to kind of balance out the creaminess of the cheese. And then, the saltiness of the prosciutto. It’s a healthy portion, too. I split it with my dining partner, and we just devoured that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3741\" data-end=\"3785\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3741\" data-end=\"3760\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What did you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3787\" data-end=\"3877\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3787\" data-end=\"3810\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I think it’s a trend. Erin and I are not starting with the salads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3879\" data-end=\"3901\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3879\" data-end=\"3890\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3903\" data-end=\"4129\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3903\" data-end=\"3926\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I got the crostone. This came with a mound of tuna, beans, and I love the amount of herbs that they had on this because it gave it a really citrusy, bright flavor and that really gets your palate going.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4131\" data-end=\"4208\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4131\" data-end=\"4150\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Where did you move to after that first delicious burrata?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4210\" data-end=\"4639\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4210\" data-end=\"4224\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I had the tagliolini alle vongole. It was just filled with so many manila clams, and the fresh pasta was to die for. It was absolutely my favorite. Just had all this, like, buttery, winey sauce. Definitely a shareable amount. You know, we had expressed that we were going to be sharing our dishes a little bit, so they were more than happy to bring over an extra plate, some extra forks, just extremely hospitable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4641\" data-end=\"4678\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4641\" data-end=\"4660\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, good service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4680\" data-end=\"4706\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4680\" data-end=\"4694\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"231\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"67\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> My go-to dish is the pollo alla sostanza. It’s a chicken breast cooked in brown butter, and it’s perfectly crisp on the outside and very, very juicy in the middle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"233\" data-end=\"451\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"233\" data-end=\"256\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> You know when you’re at a Mexican restaurant and the fajitas come out and there’s the sizzling sound — that had that effect because you bring that out and everyone looks at what you’re ordering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"453\" data-end=\"576\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"453\" data-end=\"471\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> And there’s that nuttiness that you get with the brown butter. And it’s perfect for that bread, as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"578\" data-end=\"631\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"578\" data-end=\"597\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Everything is better with butter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"633\" data-end=\"679\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"633\" data-end=\"647\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Yeah. This type of butter? Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"681\" data-end=\"812\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"681\" data-end=\"699\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Yeah. And it comes with a slice of lemon. So, you can just squeeze that right on top, and it really balances it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"814\" data-end=\"1078\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"814\" data-end=\"832\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Another dish I had was the braised oxtail stuffed ravioli. It has, like, really great savory flavors complemented by white wine sauce. Another one of those dishes that people are like, “I want that,” you know, from the other table. It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1080\" data-end=\"1462\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1080\" data-end=\"1103\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> And I also got another pasta dish, something called torchio, and this was a really interesting pasta, I’d never had it before, and it came with leeks, as well as chanterelle mushrooms. But what surprised me was the butternut squash in there. So, it added this sweet flavor that I wasn’t really expecting with the pasta. But another one that I really enjoyed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1464\" data-end=\"1582\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1464\" data-end=\"1478\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I had a seasonal mocktail that they had listed. It was a Bellini-type cocktail and it was so delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1584\" data-end=\"1832\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1584\" data-end=\"1602\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> The bartender’s really knowledgeable, too, so you can go up to him and just be like, “Hey, these are my flavors,” and Justin literally will put a whole bunch of ideas in your head and you’re like, “Whatever, I’ll try everything.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1834\" data-end=\"1889\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1834\" data-end=\"1853\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, did you have room for dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1891\" data-end=\"1917\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1891\" data-end=\"1905\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1919\" data-end=\"1950\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1919\" data-end=\"1938\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1952\" data-end=\"2235\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1952\" data-end=\"1966\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I had the affogato — vanilla, so I went classic. And the little shot of espresso, I love that it came separate because I was able to pour a little bit on, eat a little bit, pour a little bit more, finish it, but then I definitely drank out of that little dessert bowl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2237\" data-end=\"2265\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2237\" data-end=\"2256\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2267\" data-end=\"2570\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2267\" data-end=\"2281\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> It was so good! I also had the creme caramel di zucca, and it was so delicious. It was like this pumpkin cheesecake sprinkled with crushed Amaretti cookies, as well as two big pieces of Amaretti cookies right next to it, beautiful dessert, and it was such a perfect ending to our evening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2572\" data-end=\"2713\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2572\" data-end=\"2591\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And do you feel like, you know, it was a reasonably priced restaurant for the atmosphere and for the quality of the food?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2715\" data-end=\"2880\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2715\" data-end=\"2729\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Especially for the standard of service that they provide and the quality of food. That was, like, a perfect date night kind of restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2882\" data-end=\"3096\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2882\" data-end=\"2900\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> What I noticed when I walked in immediately was just how buzzy the vibe of the restaurant was. It just was like a really warm energy that translated through the whole restaurant, so I loved that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3098\" data-end=\"3163\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3098\" data-end=\"3117\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And it saves you the money of going to Italy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3165\" data-end=\"3194\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3165\" data-end=\"3176\">Guests:\u003c/strong> Right! [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3196\" data-end=\"3224\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3196\" data-end=\"3210\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> We love that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3226\" data-end=\"3398\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3226\" data-end=\"3245\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try Via del Corso, it’s located on Shattuck Avenue in Berkeley, and the average dinner tab per person without drinks is around $70.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"85\" data-end=\"427\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"85\" data-end=\"104\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s been more than 20 years since Dashini moved to America from her native Malaysia, and in all that time, she’s dreamt of finding a restaurant offering authentic flavors of home. Luckily, she’s finally found a spot that serves up all her childhood favorites. Located in the heart of Pleasanton, it’s Curry Leaves Bistro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"429\" data-end=\"444\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"446\" data-end=\"837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"446\" data-end=\"463\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> Curry Leaves Bistro is a Malaysian restaurant specializing in Malaysian street food. Mee rebus. I’m originally from an island called Penang. You ask any Malaysian, you know, “When someone says Penang, what is the first thing that you say?” They’ll say “Food.” We like our gravy a little bit thick. Truth be told, we eat seven or eight times a day. It’s just the way we are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"839\" data-end=\"854\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"856\" data-end=\"1237\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"856\" data-end=\"873\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> Defining Malaysian food is not an easy task. There are so many cultures and influences from all over the world. You want something savory, something sweet, you want something spicy, there’s something for everyone. Curry leaf is something that all cultures in Malaysia primarily use. The Indian, Chinese, Malay, and the Peranakan cultures, they all use curry leaf.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1239\" data-end=\"1653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1239\" data-end=\"1256\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> One of my favorite things to cook is char koay teow. It is a flat rice noodle similar to Pad Thai. Char koay teow is a favorite of everybody in Malaysia. Drinks are part of the Malaysian cuisine, but you know, our most popular item, which is the teh tarik, which is literally translated to “pulled tea.” We mix them and cool them down by pouring from one cup to the other cup as high as possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1692\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1665\">Group:\u003c/strong> Wow! [cheers and applause]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1694\" data-end=\"1718\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1694\" data-end=\"1707\">Customer:\u003c/strong> Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1720\" data-end=\"1759\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1720\" data-end=\"1737\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> Don’t change a thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1761\" data-end=\"1792\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1761\" data-end=\"1774\">Customer:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay, okay!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1794\" data-end=\"2084\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1794\" data-end=\"1811\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> The best compliment that I can get from any Malaysian who comes in here is like, “Wow, this is just like going back home to eat. Now, I don’t have to fly back to eat.” Your regular. It makes me feel good that I’ve done justice to our national food and to my favorite dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2086\" data-end=\"2101\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2103\" data-end=\"2209\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2103\" data-end=\"2122\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, Dashini, it’s been a challenge for you, hasn’t it, to find real Malaysian cuisine?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2211\" data-end=\"2483\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2211\" data-end=\"2234\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> It has been. I tend to try and get the adjacent cuisines like Thai food, et cetera, but it’s not the same, and I’ve been on the hunt, and I finally chanced upon Curry Leaves Bistro and lo and behold, it’s like the Malaysian embassy of the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2485\" data-end=\"2507\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2485\" data-end=\"2496\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2509\" data-end=\"2556\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2509\" data-end=\"2528\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You found it! You found it!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2558\" data-end=\"2599\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2558\" data-end=\"2581\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I found it, yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2601\" data-end=\"2682\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2601\" data-end=\"2620\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what is it? What do you, you know, draws you in the door?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2684\" data-end=\"3163\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2684\" data-end=\"2707\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Oh, the dish that brings me into that restaurant is char koay teow, which is a childhood favorite. And char means, sort of, stir-fried. And it’s rice noodles cooked with soy sauce, bean sprouts, green chives in there, tons of shrimp, which I love. This real flavor from the wok that it’s cooked in — that sense of, I think it’s called wok hei — and that is something that char koay teow from Curry Leaves Bistro has in spades. So, that’s one of my go-tos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3165\" data-end=\"3230\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3165\" data-end=\"3184\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what did you start with when you went in?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3232\" data-end=\"3413\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3232\" data-end=\"3255\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> So, as a starter, I had the roti canai, which is, like, the roti crispy bread paired with the curry. And I have a weakness for, like, layered crispy bread…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3415\" data-end=\"3447\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3415\" data-end=\"3434\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Who doesn’t?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3449\" data-end=\"3578\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3449\" data-end=\"3472\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Right, exactly. And it was so buttery. And then, you just dip it right in that curry, and it was so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3741\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3598\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Super delicious to just dip it inside the curry that had a piece of chicken in it that was an actual piece of chicken with a bone still in it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3743\" data-end=\"3765\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3743\" data-end=\"3754\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3767\" data-end=\"4120\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3767\" data-end=\"3785\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Like, it was great bang for your buck for just this one plate. And I also had the mee goreng, and it is kind of like a Chinese chow mein. That’s what it reminded me of. It came with a healthy portion of shrimp, and calamari, and just beansprouts for crunch, and green onions for freshness. And it was just a delicious, delicious meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4122\" data-end=\"4723\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4122\" data-end=\"4145\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> So, one of the dishes that I really like to also get there is called nasi kandar. And that means carried rice, and it was brought to Malaysia by Indian immigrants who would sell rice on wooden poles. And so, that rice dish comes with a beautiful curry as well as a side of pickles. So, it’s a nice complement to the spiciness of the curry. Always comes with some kind of protein, I get it with chicken, but my daughter is vegetarian and so she got it with tofu and really enjoyed it. And we got something called mee rebus, which was a noodle dish that came with a potato gravy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4725\" data-end=\"4775\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4725\" data-end=\"4742\">Jai Kandayah:\u003c/strong> It’s a sweet potato based gravy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4777\" data-end=\"4953\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4777\" data-end=\"4800\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Sounds dodgy, but it’s actually very good. And on top of it was a couple of crispy shrimp. It has udon vibes, but yes, I went to town on that, loved it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4955\" data-end=\"5008\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4955\" data-end=\"4974\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have any of those dishes?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5010\" data-end=\"5059\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5010\" data-end=\"5024\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I didn’t have any of those dishes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5061\" data-end=\"5098\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5061\" data-end=\"5080\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But now you know.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5100\" data-end=\"5175\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5100\" data-end=\"5114\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. And I will get everything that you just said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5177\" data-end=\"5211\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5177\" data-end=\"5200\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Next time!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"150\" data-end=\"249\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"150\" data-end=\"164\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I also got a fried chicken, kind of traditional fried chicken, but spiced very well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"251\" data-end=\"326\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"251\" data-end=\"268\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> We double fry our chicken so that it is moist and crispy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"328\" data-end=\"401\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"328\" data-end=\"346\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> And yeah, it’s really simple, but it’s really crunchy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"403\" data-end=\"470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"403\" data-end=\"422\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And is that a Malaysian traditional dish or no?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"512\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"489\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> We love fried chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"514\" data-end=\"536\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"514\" data-end=\"525\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"538\" data-end=\"669\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"538\" data-end=\"555\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> You know, I mean, in Malaysia, you could get fried chicken for breakfast. So, you can eat it any time of the day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"671\" data-end=\"785\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"671\" data-end=\"689\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> It was the spices that really got me. You know, it’s not seasoned how a normal fried chicken…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"787\" data-end=\"818\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"787\" data-end=\"804\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> That’s right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"820\" data-end=\"960\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"820\" data-end=\"838\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> You know? It definitely had the seasons from Malaysia. Then, I got a rose drink. Very smooth, almost like horchata vibes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"962\" data-end=\"999\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"962\" data-end=\"985\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Yes! Bandung?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1001\" data-end=\"1167\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1001\" data-end=\"1019\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Bandung, yes, exactly. It was so different because I’ve never had a floral drink. I got a large, and it was just like, I have to drink all of this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1169\" data-end=\"1305\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1169\" data-end=\"1192\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> So, I tried it, and I’m not much of a floral kind of person, but you know who drank all of it was my 3-year-old!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1307\" data-end=\"1329\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1307\" data-end=\"1318\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1331\" data-end=\"1433\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1331\" data-end=\"1354\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> She said, “Ooh, it’s a pink, pretty drink! And it tastes sweet and delicious!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1435\" data-end=\"1511\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1435\" data-end=\"1454\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you feel like the portions were big? Just right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1513\" data-end=\"1543\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1513\" data-end=\"1527\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Decently sized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1545\" data-end=\"1580\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1545\" data-end=\"1568\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1582\" data-end=\"1653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1582\" data-end=\"1601\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you bring any home or did you eat it all there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1683\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1669\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I ate it all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1685\" data-end=\"1707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1685\" data-end=\"1696\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1709\" data-end=\"1782\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1709\" data-end=\"1728\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, it’s a real discovery, isn’t it, for everybody.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1784\" data-end=\"1820\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1784\" data-end=\"1807\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I love that!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1822\" data-end=\"1896\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1822\" data-end=\"1841\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And hard for you to find! It was hard for you to find.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1898\" data-end=\"1969\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1898\" data-end=\"1921\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> It was hard to find but now we’ve got our spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1971\" data-end=\"1993\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1971\" data-end=\"1982\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1995\" data-end=\"2174\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1995\" data-end=\"2014\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try Curry Leaves Bistro, it’s located on Las Positas Boulevard in Pleasanton, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $25.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2176\" data-end=\"2302\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2176\" data-end=\"2195\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And now, reporter \u003cstrong data-start=\"2214\" data-end=\"2234\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong> samples South Asian treats and beats in the heart of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2304\" data-end=\"2456\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2304\" data-end=\"2325\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Bhangra and Beats is an all-ages free night market that celebrates South Asian culture through food, through music, through dance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2458\" data-end=\"2496\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2458\" data-end=\"2473\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> Lift them up and walk!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2498\" data-end=\"2673\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2498\" data-end=\"2519\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I heard that tonight’s celebration was especially important because this is the first time that San Francisco has put on an event that celebrates Diwali.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2675\" data-end=\"2961\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2675\" data-end=\"2690\">Vicki Virk:\u003c/strong> Yes, Diwali is a time to reflect, come together, give thanks, and to remember the beautiful things in life. There is such a massive population of South Asians in the Bay Area, and to be able to have their culture celebrated at a platform like this is absolutely amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2963\" data-end=\"2978\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2980\" data-end=\"3111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2980\" data-end=\"2995\">Ranjan Dey:\u003c/strong> New Delhi Restaurant is a mixed immigrant family legacy business serving the most freaking Dey-licious Indian food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3178\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3134\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Dey-licious. A play on your last name, Dey?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3180\" data-end=\"3207\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3180\" data-end=\"3195\">Ranjan Dey:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3209\" data-end=\"3236\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3209\" data-end=\"3230\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3238\" data-end=\"3372\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3238\" data-end=\"3253\">Ranjan Dey:\u003c/strong> This is called joy bomb. A rice ball covered with panko batter and fried. And you will be so joyful, you will tear up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3374\" data-end=\"3441\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3374\" data-end=\"3395\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Oh, okay, alright! Somebody grab me a tissue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3443\" data-end=\"3510\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3443\" data-end=\"3458\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> Then you can do, screw the light bulb, pet the dog.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3512\" data-end=\"3552\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3512\" data-end=\"3533\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Is that the dance?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3554\" data-end=\"3581\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3554\" data-end=\"3569\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> Dance move!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3583\" data-end=\"3624\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3583\" data-end=\"3604\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> So, it goes like…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3626\" data-end=\"3652\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3626\" data-end=\"3641\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> Like that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3654\" data-end=\"3695\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3654\" data-end=\"3675\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Yeah! There you go!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3697\" data-end=\"3759\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3697\" data-end=\"3718\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Alright, so I’ve danced. Now, can I eat?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3761\" data-end=\"3781\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3761\" data-end=\"3776\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3783\" data-end=\"3842\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3783\" data-end=\"3804\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I do feel myself starting to tear up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3844\" data-end=\"3869\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3844\" data-end=\"3859\">Ranjan Dey:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3871\" data-end=\"3900\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3871\" data-end=\"3882\">Guests:\u003c/strong> That’s beautiful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3902\" data-end=\"3934\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3902\" data-end=\"3923\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> [Chuckles]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3936\" data-end=\"4001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3936\" data-end=\"3947\">Vendor:\u003c/strong> Wahjeewah specializes in Indian barbecue street food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4003\" data-end=\"4081\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4003\" data-end=\"4024\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> So, Wahjeewah, what does the name of your business mean?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4083\" data-end=\"4392\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4083\" data-end=\"4094\">Vendor:\u003c/strong> It’s an expression, when you eat something amazing, you’re like, “Wow, that’s fantastic.” When you’re satisfied, your heart speaks like “wahjeewah.” This is the lamb kebab. We wrapped it in a naan bread that we cooked fresh here. It has some pickled onions, some chutney on the side for some heat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4394\" data-end=\"4507\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4394\" data-end=\"4415\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Here we go! Honestly, like, the lamb is so tender. Oh, my gosh, this is wahjeewah for sure!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4509\" data-end=\"4836\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4509\" data-end=\"4520\">Vendor:\u003c/strong> Barfia is a unique Indian confections and dessert business. Barfia’s almost like a fudge, but it’s not made out of chocolate. It’s made out of dried milk powder, ghee, and sugar. Here we have khoya, raspberry white chocolate, peanut butter, ube, Oreo, mango coconut, pistachio, celebration cake, and orange blossom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4838\" data-end=\"4891\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4838\" data-end=\"4859\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Happy Diwali! Here we go, okay!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4893\" data-end=\"4916\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4893\" data-end=\"4904\">Vendor:\u003c/strong> Here we go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4918\" data-end=\"5008\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4918\" data-end=\"4939\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> It’s a really light, very subtle flavor of pistachio. Mm, delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5010\" data-end=\"5039\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5010\" data-end=\"5021\">Vendor:\u003c/strong> Delicious, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5078\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5062\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> That’s so good!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5080\" data-end=\"5411\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5080\" data-end=\"5099\">Aurum Kathuria:\u003c/strong> Naya Delights is all about the love of rose. And these days, I find a way to infuse it into every little thing I can. Here, we’ve got our rose chai — oat milk, chai latte, and then we add some rose water and rose syrup to really give it that rose flavor. We top it with crushed pistachios and fresh rose petals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5413\" data-end=\"5523\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5413\" data-end=\"5434\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> You’re in pink. I got a little pink here. And a pink straw. Wow, you’re really on brand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5525\" data-end=\"5553\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5525\" data-end=\"5544\">Aurum Kathuria:\u003c/strong> [laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5555\" data-end=\"5617\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5555\" data-end=\"5576\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh, it’s so light. I want more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5619\" data-end=\"5629\">[cheering]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5631\" data-end=\"5646\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5648\" data-end=\"6152\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5648\" data-end=\"5667\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I have to thank my fabulous guests on this week’s show, \u003cstrong data-start=\"5724\" data-end=\"5746\">Dashini Jeyathurai\u003c/strong>, who shared a taste of Malaysia at Curry Leaves Bistro in Pleasanton, \u003cstrong data-start=\"5817\" data-end=\"5834\">Rashawn Moore\u003c/strong>, who can’t get enough of the butter-basted chicken at Via del Corso in Berkeley, and \u003cstrong data-start=\"5920\" data-end=\"5933\">Erin Hurd\u003c/strong>, lover of the loco moco at Got Plate Lunch in Benicia. Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on \u003cem data-start=\"6080\" data-end=\"6106\">Check, Please! Bay Area.\u003c/em> I’m \u003cstrong data-start=\"6111\" data-end=\"6129\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong> and I’ll see you then.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6154\" data-end=\"6199\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6154\" data-end=\"6173\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Cheers! Did you have fun?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6201\" data-end=\"6225\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6201\" data-end=\"6219\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6227\" data-end=\"6253\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6227\" data-end=\"6241\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6255\" data-end=\"6274\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6255\" data-end=\"6266\">Guests:\u003c/strong> Cheers!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6276\" data-end=\"6300\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6276\" data-end=\"6290\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Whoo-hoo!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6302\" data-end=\"6510\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6302\" data-end=\"6323\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Bhangra and Beats is a brainchild of Into the Streets, a non-stop Bhangra. It’s so time to come together, eat good food, dress up in beautiful clothing and just celebrate being together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6512\" data-end=\"6533\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6512\" data-end=\"6522\">Woman:\u003c/strong> And dance!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6535\" data-end=\"6567\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6535\" data-end=\"6556\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> And dance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6569\" data-end=\"6652\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6569\" data-end=\"6590\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Can you teach me, like, one dance move so I have something…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6654\" data-end=\"6722\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6654\" data-end=\"6669\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. So, clap, clap, dance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6724\" data-end=\"6778\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6724\" data-end=\"6745\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh! Am I doing Bhangra?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6780\" data-end=\"6817\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6780\" data-end=\"6795\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> You’re doing Bhangra!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6819\" data-end=\"6841\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6819\" data-end=\"6830\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6843\" data-end=\"6914\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6843\" data-end=\"6858\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> All else fails, you just have to bounce your shoulders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6916\" data-end=\"6979\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6916\" data-end=\"6937\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Just bounce the shoulders. I can do that.\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 20, episode 3, airs Thursday, April 24, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just steps from Benicia’s waterfront, \u003cstrong>Got Plate Lunch\u003c/strong> brings a taste of Hawaii to the North Bay, serving up island-style comfort food with an extra helping of aloha. Diners dig into da “Mixed Plate”, featuring a little bit of everything, along with crispy kalua pork tots and the rich, savory ultimate loco moco, complete with beef patties, grilled Spam, and fried eggs. Nestled in the heart of North Berkeley, \u003cstrong>Via del Corso\u003c/strong> brings the flavors of central Italy to the Bay Area, with handmade pastas, slow-braised meats, and a menu inspired by the country’s diverse culinary regions. The ravioli alla coda di bue, stuffed with slow-braised oxtail, and the garlicky tagliolini alle vongole are standouts, while the creme caramel di zucca — a pumpkin custard with cranberry compote — makes for a perfect sweet finish. Rounding out the episode, \u003cstrong>Curry Leaves Bistro\u003c/strong> in Pleasanton takes guests on a journey through the vibrant street food of Penang, Malaysia. The bold, smoky char kway teow, wok-fried with prawns and bursting with wok hei — the inimitable flavor imparted by the wok — is a must-try, as is the crispy roti canai served with fragrant chicken curry. To cap off the episode, reporter Cecilia Phillips immerses herself in the high-energy world of \u003cstrong>Bhangra and Beats\u003c/strong>, a San Francisco festival that brings together pulsating Punjabi rhythms, electrifying dance performances, and a vibrant night bazaar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23469\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23469 size-medium\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Guests_b.png 1620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Dashini Jeyathurai, Erin Hurd and Rashawn Moore from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.gotplatelunchca.com/\">\u003cstrong>Got Plate Lunch\u003c/strong> (Benicia)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.viadelcorso.net/\">\u003cstrong>Via del Corso\u003c/strong> (Berkeley)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.curryleavesbistro.com/\">\u003cstrong>Curry Leaves Bistro \u003c/strong>(Pleasanton)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bhangraandbeats.com/\">\u003cstrong>Bhangra and Beats\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23465\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-800x450.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-800x450.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-1020x574.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-160x90.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-768x432.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines-1536x864.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/04/2003_Wines.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://presquilewine.com/wines/aligote/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #008000\">\u003cstrong>Presqu’ile 2023 Aligoté\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Santa Maria Valley, California $36\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nFor those who are into finding wine discoveries, this is one to put on your list. The family-owned winery is in the beautiful Santa Maria Valley of Santa Barbara County. Hailing from the Presqu’ile Vineyard, which is situated among the top vineyards of California (think Sanford and Benedict and Bien Nacido), their debut Aligoté is a complex yet approachable white. The grape is known in France’s Burgundy region but less well known across the world. To taste such a unique variety in California is a treat. Alluring fresh lime aromas followed by tart lemon cream flavors, the dry, crisp white lingers on the palate. Don’t miss the eye-catching, artist-designed label that pays homage to the family’s Mississippi Gulf Coast roots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://domaineedem.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #008000\">\u003cstrong>Domaine EdeM 2024 “N.0 (ROSÆ)” Dealcoholized Sparkling Rosé\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>La Mancha, Spain $27\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nOne of the hottest trends in wine is offerings with no alcohol. This new entry into the market is a quality-driven yet quaffable creation. It honors Elena Maza, the wife of Nicolás Catena, head of Argentina’s most famous wine family. Elena requested that her daughter, Laura Catena, and the Catena Institute of Wine craft “something lighter than traditional wine yet enjoyable as an aperitif before dinner.” This ethereal sipper is made with Airén grape juice from Toledo, Spain, using a specialized process that removes alcohol at low temperatures. Rose petals are then infused before bottling to capture a floral, citrus tanginess that makes your mouth water. A perfect aperitif and a refreshing drink on warm summer days for picnics and poolside.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"139\" data-end=\"303\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"139\" data-end=\"158\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hawaiian comfort food in Benicia…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"139\" data-end=\"303\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"139\" data-end=\"158\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> The soy sauce, the umami, the sweetness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"139\" data-end=\"303\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"372\">Leslie Sbrocco: \u003c/strong>Trattoria classics in Berkeley… Everything is better with butter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"305\" data-end=\"351\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"833\" data-end=\"851\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> This type of butter? Yes. Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"499\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"372\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And Malaysian curries in Pleasanton.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"499\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"786\" data-end=\"809\">Dashini Jeyathurai: \u003c/strong>It’s like the Malaysian embassy of the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"499\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"353\" data-end=\"372\">Leslie Sbrocco: \u003c/strong>Just ahead on \u003cem data-start=\"473\" data-end=\"499\">Check, Please! Bay Area.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"501\" data-end=\"609\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"501\" data-end=\"520\">Aurum Kathuria:\u003c/strong> You can tell when someone likes it based on how much of a sip they take. That was a sip!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"611\" data-end=\"639\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"611\" data-end=\"625\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> It’s so good!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"641\" data-end=\"1137\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"641\" data-end=\"660\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem data-start=\"696\" data-end=\"722\">Check, Please! Bay Area,\u003c/em> the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. We have three guests and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem data-start=\"959\" data-end=\"975\">Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today, are Senior Director \u003cstrong data-start=\"1009\" data-end=\"1031\">Dashini Jeyathurai\u003c/strong>, healthcare administrator \u003cstrong data-start=\"1058\" data-end=\"1075\">Rashawn Moore\u003c/strong>, and facilities coordinator \u003cstrong data-start=\"1104\" data-end=\"1117\">Erin Hurd\u003c/strong>. Welcome, everyone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1139\" data-end=\"1158\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1139\" data-end=\"1147\">All:\u003c/strong> Thank you!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1194\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1179\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Are you ready?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1196\" data-end=\"1249\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1196\" data-end=\"1207\">Guests:\u003c/strong> We’re ready. We’re so excited to dive in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1251\" data-end=\"1582\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1251\" data-end=\"1270\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Let’s do it. Alright, it’s time to say aloha to Erin’s favorite lunchtime hangout. Offering island classics like fresh poke, spam musubi, and loco moco just steps from the beach, it’s the perfect place to satisfy her Hawaiian comfort food cravings. Located along the waterfront in Benicia, it’s Got Plate Lunch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1584\" data-end=\"1599\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1601\" data-end=\"1635\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1601\" data-end=\"1612\">Server:\u003c/strong> I have your loco moco!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1637\" data-end=\"1662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1637\" data-end=\"1651\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Thank you!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1859\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1681\">Myk Bigornia:\u003c/strong> The aloha spirit in Hawaii is probably like no other place in the world. How are you guys doing? You brought the whole baseball team! We try to represent more of an island vibe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1861\" data-end=\"1890\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1861\" data-end=\"1874\">Customer:\u003c/strong> Happy birthday!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1892\" data-end=\"1918\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1892\" data-end=\"1902\">Group:\u003c/strong> Happy birthday!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1920\" data-end=\"2311\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1920\" data-end=\"1937\">Myk Bigornia:\u003c/strong> Slower paced, more relaxed. Got Plate Lunch is a restaurant that brings back the flavors of Hawaii that my wife and I grew up with. Plate lunch is a multicultural food. Japanese, Chinese, Filipino… It’s derived from the days of the plantation workers, all different ethnicities, eating lunch together, and they didn’t know how to communicate. But through lunch, they did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2313\" data-end=\"2415\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2313\" data-end=\"2323\">Jamie Bigornia:\u003c/strong> Plate lunch is two scoops of rice, meat entree, and mac salad. Everything we make is fresh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2417\" data-end=\"2535\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2417\" data-end=\"2434\">Myk Bigornia:\u003c/strong> Fresh ahi poke… Bath time, kimchi. Our Kalua pork and cabbage is smoked, slow cooked for 24 hours.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2537\" data-end=\"2571\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2537\" data-end=\"2550\">Customer:\u003c/strong> This is my favorite.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2573\" data-end=\"2673\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2573\" data-end=\"2583\">Jamie Bigornia:\u003c/strong> So, it’s flavorful, moist, and what we say in Hawaii… That means, like, it literally…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2675\" data-end=\"2711\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2675\" data-end=\"2689\">Customers:\u003c/strong> Delicious. Delicious!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2713\" data-end=\"3018\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2713\" data-end=\"2730\">Myk Bigornia:\u003c/strong> I love to eat the loco moco. I eat it five or six times a week. Ground beef patties seared on the flat top placed on top of rice with two over-easy eggs, and then smothered in our own proprietary brown gravy. It’s fabulous. [Chuckles] It’s fabulous. I’m getting hungry thinking about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3020\" data-end=\"3035\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3037\" data-end=\"3185\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3037\" data-end=\"3054\">Myk Bigornia:\u003c/strong> In Benicia, I think there’s three or four restaurants with a true water view, and everybody tells us that we’ve got the best view.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3187\" data-end=\"3292\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3187\" data-end=\"3197\">Jamie Bigornia:\u003c/strong> We get to see the sunset every night, so be comfortable and enjoy the view and enjoy the food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3294\" data-end=\"3405\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3294\" data-end=\"3313\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Erin. Got Plate Lunch started out as a food truck. Is that how you first found it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3407\" data-end=\"3984\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3407\" data-end=\"3421\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Actually, no. I actually found them at their brick and mortar store. I was just craving some really good Hawaiian food that wasn’t a chain restaurant, and had those comfort foods that I look for. My favorite dish is absolutely, hands down, the ultimate loco moco that they have because it is so simple, yet so delicious. Two scoops of rice and two hamburger patties on the ultimate, actually, and two pieces of spam, and then two runny eggs, and then you top that with some brown gravy and a side of mac salad. And it is just all the calories, but all delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3986\" data-end=\"4033\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3986\" data-end=\"4005\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And a carb lover’s delight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4035\" data-end=\"4061\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4035\" data-end=\"4049\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Absolutely!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4063\" data-end=\"4104\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4063\" data-end=\"4082\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Carb lover’s delight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"784\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"833\" data-end=\"851\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> I’ll usually start with a salad. I was going to be basic with, like, a regular garden one, but I’m like, no, let’s not be basic. What I had was the grilled pineapple salad and three different types of leaves, green leaves, and then they just grill the pineapple and then they make, like, a garlic pineapple vinaigrette. I even asked them, I was like, “What do y’all put in here?” And they were like, “We can’t tell you!” And then, I’m tasting it, I’m like, “I know exactly what that is.” So, I’m going to try to make it at home. I haven’t yet, but it was so good. I love the smokiness from the grilled pineapple. I’ve never had that on a salad before and it was amazing. And then, I had the loaded tater tots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"786\" data-end=\"831\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"786\" data-end=\"809\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Ooh, I got that, too!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"833\" data-end=\"984\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"833\" data-end=\"851\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> So good, with the smokiness from the meat, and it had, like, honey mustard sauce, but then it had a lot of tang and really upped it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"986\" data-end=\"1073\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"986\" data-end=\"1009\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I loved how crispy those were. I like the salad idea next time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1075\" data-end=\"1124\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1075\" data-end=\"1089\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> You go straight for the loco moco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1126\" data-end=\"1277\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1126\" data-end=\"1149\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Oh, I absolutely do. I mean, I do have, there’s the spam muwasabi, and so, that has a actual wasabi aioli that they put on top.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1279\" data-end=\"1337\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1279\" data-end=\"1298\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s a little creative twist, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1339\" data-end=\"1444\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1339\" data-end=\"1353\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Yeah, it has that little bit of kick, but not too much, from the wasabi. And it’s amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1446\" data-end=\"1803\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1446\" data-end=\"1469\">Rashawn Moore: \u003c/strong> I got the Portuguese sausage musubi. It was so good, not like normal musubi. It comes with the rice on the top and the bottom, has a little bit of a sweet teriyaki sauce in the middle, and then, it’s wrapped in seaweed. The Portuguese sausage has a little bit of a smokiness and the sweetness, and it’s just really, really delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1805\" data-end=\"2129\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1805\" data-end=\"1819\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I also had Da Mixed Plate, which has Portuguese sausage, there’s spam, and then there’s also some teriyaki chicken, and it’s just perfectly grilled, loaded with the soy sauce, the umami, the sweetness. And that chicken just has the perfect amount of char on it to where it gives it flavor, but not bitterness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2131\" data-end=\"2411\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1446\" data-end=\"1469\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I also had an udon noodle dish which came with vegetables. We had cabbage, peppers… This one was a little more on the sweet side for me. I would love something a little bit more savory, but we took it home, added some hot sauce to it, and got it to my flavor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2413\" data-end=\"2446\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2413\" data-end=\"2432\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Unbelievable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2448\" data-end=\"2705\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2448\" data-end=\"2462\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I do get the saimin, which is very Hawaiian, traditional. It is just like this big bowl of these egg noodle saimin, and it has slices of spam. It just has all of this umami and flavor. It’s just so delicious, it takes me right back to Hawaii.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2707\" data-end=\"2794\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2707\" data-end=\"2726\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And they do have sort of Hawaiian drinks, and Hawaiian, you know…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2796\" data-end=\"2819\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2796\" data-end=\"2814\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2821\" data-end=\"2909\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2821\" data-end=\"2835\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Yeah. The last time that I went, they had something called the sun mosas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2911\" data-end=\"2935\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2911\" data-end=\"2930\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Ooh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2937\" data-end=\"3032\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2937\" data-end=\"2951\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> So, they had a flight of mimosas that were mixed with different flavors of wine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3034\" data-end=\"3096\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3034\" data-end=\"3053\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’ll really put you in the island mood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3098\" data-end=\"3133\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3098\" data-end=\"3112\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Oh, yes. Absolutely!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3135\" data-end=\"3527\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3135\" data-end=\"3158\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I got one of the ube mochi desserts, which was really delicious. I brought my 7-year-old with me, and so there had to be a dessert ordered at the end of the meal. One of the things that I noticed about this place was that it reminded me so much of, like, restaurants that I’d gone to in Hawaii. It’s a really great, like, chill island vibe restaurant, which was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3529\" data-end=\"3749\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3529\" data-end=\"3547\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> I went there right when it opened, and within the next 20 minutes, it was packed. And a place that’s so far away and by itself, you wouldn’t expect it to be super, super packed, but they was coming in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3751\" data-end=\"3928\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3751\" data-end=\"3770\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright! If you would like to go to Got Plate Lunch, it’s located on West 9th Street in Benicia, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $25.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"78\" data-end=\"387\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"78\" data-end=\"97\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Rashawn’s a culinary school grad who dreams of having his own restaurant one day. In the meantime, he’s happy to perch right up at the counter at his neighborhood trattoria, watching the chefs prepare all the classic Italian fare his heart desires. Located in Berkeley, it’s Via del Corso.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"389\" data-end=\"755\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"389\" data-end=\"409\">Massimo Orlando:\u003c/strong> Via del Corso is a neighborhood restaurant. Come in, relax, and just have a great time. Via del Corso is a boulevard in Rome. A lot of the regions of Italy have their names on the streets that come into that boulevard. It’s a landmark in Rome. When we opened the restaurant, we thought we didn’t want to just cook one region, but all over Italy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"757\" data-end=\"915\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"757\" data-end=\"776\">Peter Chastain:\u003c/strong> We’ve been working together for about 22 years. He’s from Emilia-Romagna. My grandfather was from Tuscany. So, we argue about seasoning…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"917\" data-end=\"1156\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"917\" data-end=\"937\">Massimo Orlando:\u003c/strong> My dad’s from Sicily. I do a lot of southern Italian cooking, as well. My cooking started when I was a really young age from my grandma. We used to make ravioli during holidays. The love of food, that’s how we started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1158\" data-end=\"1630\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1158\" data-end=\"1177\">Peter Chastain:\u003c/strong> These are beautiful truffles. We use products that a lot of people cut corners on. Prosciutto di San Daniele that’s 20 years, not 10 years. Burrata that’s made by a women-owned cooperative in Puglia and it’s just to die for. Real aceto balsamico tradizionale. We make pasta uovo, which is fresh egg pasta. One of the signature dishes is tagliatelle al ragù. People call it bolognese, but it is not bolognese. It’s a ragù from the countryside of Emilia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1632\" data-end=\"1692\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1632\" data-end=\"1652\">Massimo Orlando:\u003c/strong> My grandma used to cook me tagliatelle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1694\" data-end=\"1764\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1694\" data-end=\"1713\">Peter Chastain:\u003c/strong> People go nuts for that. We really like that dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1766\" data-end=\"1819\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1766\" data-end=\"1786\">Massimo Orlando:\u003c/strong> Can’t take that off of the menu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1821\" data-end=\"2350\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1821\" data-end=\"1840\">Peter Chastain:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that’s right. Our wine list is exclusively Italian, which is rare in California. Wine is part of the meal in Italy. We had to have a glass of wine before we left the table when we were 7 years old in my family. The biggest comments we get from people is that it’s such a great vibe. People tell me that almost every night. It’s a small place, and yes, it’s a little bit loud, but the food speaks for itself. We’re trying to really ring the real memory bells of Italy cooked here in Berkeley, California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2352\" data-end=\"2502\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2352\" data-end=\"2371\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Fantastic. That’s fantastic. Alright, Rashawn, is this the next best thing to, you know, being on a trip to Florence or something?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2504\" data-end=\"2556\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2504\" data-end=\"2522\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Might even be better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2558\" data-end=\"2580\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2558\" data-end=\"2569\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2582\" data-end=\"2647\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2582\" data-end=\"2600\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> You have to deal with the hassle of the plane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2649\" data-end=\"2699\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2649\" data-end=\"2668\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. No plane rides.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2701\" data-end=\"2898\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2701\" data-end=\"2719\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Being born and raised in Berkeley, you know, I’ve watched a bunch of different restaurants come and go. This one has been there for years. Great chefs, great service, great wine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2944\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What do you order first?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2946\" data-end=\"3241\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2946\" data-end=\"2964\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> So, I always start with the lattuga, and it’s almost like a Caesar salad, but heavy on the citrus and the lemon. It also comes with the parmesan cheese on top. This romaine lettuce is really crisp. There’s not a wilted leaf in there at all. Very lightly dressed. It’s perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3243\" data-end=\"3301\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3243\" data-end=\"3262\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright. Did you start with the salad?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3303\" data-end=\"3392\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3303\" data-end=\"3317\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I did not start with the salad, but I did have the burrata and prosciutto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3394\" data-end=\"3443\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3394\" data-end=\"3413\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You can’t go wrong with that!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3445\" data-end=\"3739\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3445\" data-end=\"3459\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> You cannot, it’s drizzled with this aged balsamic that’s sweet, yet has a little bit of tang to kind of balance out the creaminess of the cheese. And then, the saltiness of the prosciutto. It’s a healthy portion, too. I split it with my dining partner, and we just devoured that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3741\" data-end=\"3785\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3741\" data-end=\"3760\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> What did you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3787\" data-end=\"3877\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3787\" data-end=\"3810\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I think it’s a trend. Erin and I are not starting with the salads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3879\" data-end=\"3901\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3879\" data-end=\"3890\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3903\" data-end=\"4129\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3903\" data-end=\"3926\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I got the crostone. This came with a mound of tuna, beans, and I love the amount of herbs that they had on this because it gave it a really citrusy, bright flavor and that really gets your palate going.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4131\" data-end=\"4208\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4131\" data-end=\"4150\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Where did you move to after that first delicious burrata?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4210\" data-end=\"4639\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4210\" data-end=\"4224\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I had the tagliolini alle vongole. It was just filled with so many manila clams, and the fresh pasta was to die for. It was absolutely my favorite. Just had all this, like, buttery, winey sauce. Definitely a shareable amount. You know, we had expressed that we were going to be sharing our dishes a little bit, so they were more than happy to bring over an extra plate, some extra forks, just extremely hospitable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4641\" data-end=\"4678\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4641\" data-end=\"4660\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, good service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4680\" data-end=\"4706\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4680\" data-end=\"4694\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"231\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"67\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> My go-to dish is the pollo alla sostanza. It’s a chicken breast cooked in brown butter, and it’s perfectly crisp on the outside and very, very juicy in the middle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"233\" data-end=\"451\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"233\" data-end=\"256\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> You know when you’re at a Mexican restaurant and the fajitas come out and there’s the sizzling sound — that had that effect because you bring that out and everyone looks at what you’re ordering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"453\" data-end=\"576\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"453\" data-end=\"471\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> And there’s that nuttiness that you get with the brown butter. And it’s perfect for that bread, as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"578\" data-end=\"631\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"578\" data-end=\"597\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Everything is better with butter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"633\" data-end=\"679\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"633\" data-end=\"647\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Yeah. This type of butter? Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"681\" data-end=\"812\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"681\" data-end=\"699\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Yeah. And it comes with a slice of lemon. So, you can just squeeze that right on top, and it really balances it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"814\" data-end=\"1078\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"814\" data-end=\"832\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Another dish I had was the braised oxtail stuffed ravioli. It has, like, really great savory flavors complemented by white wine sauce. Another one of those dishes that people are like, “I want that,” you know, from the other table. It was great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1080\" data-end=\"1462\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1080\" data-end=\"1103\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> And I also got another pasta dish, something called torchio, and this was a really interesting pasta, I’d never had it before, and it came with leeks, as well as chanterelle mushrooms. But what surprised me was the butternut squash in there. So, it added this sweet flavor that I wasn’t really expecting with the pasta. But another one that I really enjoyed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1464\" data-end=\"1582\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1464\" data-end=\"1478\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I had a seasonal mocktail that they had listed. It was a Bellini-type cocktail and it was so delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1584\" data-end=\"1832\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1584\" data-end=\"1602\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> The bartender’s really knowledgeable, too, so you can go up to him and just be like, “Hey, these are my flavors,” and Justin literally will put a whole bunch of ideas in your head and you’re like, “Whatever, I’ll try everything.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1834\" data-end=\"1889\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1834\" data-end=\"1853\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, did you have room for dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1891\" data-end=\"1917\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1891\" data-end=\"1905\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1919\" data-end=\"1950\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1919\" data-end=\"1938\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1952\" data-end=\"2235\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1952\" data-end=\"1966\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I had the affogato — vanilla, so I went classic. And the little shot of espresso, I love that it came separate because I was able to pour a little bit on, eat a little bit, pour a little bit more, finish it, but then I definitely drank out of that little dessert bowl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2237\" data-end=\"2265\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2237\" data-end=\"2256\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2267\" data-end=\"2570\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2267\" data-end=\"2281\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> It was so good! I also had the creme caramel di zucca, and it was so delicious. It was like this pumpkin cheesecake sprinkled with crushed Amaretti cookies, as well as two big pieces of Amaretti cookies right next to it, beautiful dessert, and it was such a perfect ending to our evening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2572\" data-end=\"2713\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2572\" data-end=\"2591\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And do you feel like, you know, it was a reasonably priced restaurant for the atmosphere and for the quality of the food?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2715\" data-end=\"2880\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2715\" data-end=\"2729\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Especially for the standard of service that they provide and the quality of food. That was, like, a perfect date night kind of restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2882\" data-end=\"3096\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2882\" data-end=\"2900\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> What I noticed when I walked in immediately was just how buzzy the vibe of the restaurant was. It just was like a really warm energy that translated through the whole restaurant, so I loved that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3098\" data-end=\"3163\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3098\" data-end=\"3117\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And it saves you the money of going to Italy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3165\" data-end=\"3194\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3165\" data-end=\"3176\">Guests:\u003c/strong> Right! [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3196\" data-end=\"3224\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3196\" data-end=\"3210\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> We love that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3226\" data-end=\"3398\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3226\" data-end=\"3245\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try Via del Corso, it’s located on Shattuck Avenue in Berkeley, and the average dinner tab per person without drinks is around $70.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"85\" data-end=\"427\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"85\" data-end=\"104\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s been more than 20 years since Dashini moved to America from her native Malaysia, and in all that time, she’s dreamt of finding a restaurant offering authentic flavors of home. Luckily, she’s finally found a spot that serves up all her childhood favorites. Located in the heart of Pleasanton, it’s Curry Leaves Bistro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"429\" data-end=\"444\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"446\" data-end=\"837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"446\" data-end=\"463\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> Curry Leaves Bistro is a Malaysian restaurant specializing in Malaysian street food. Mee rebus. I’m originally from an island called Penang. You ask any Malaysian, you know, “When someone says Penang, what is the first thing that you say?” They’ll say “Food.” We like our gravy a little bit thick. Truth be told, we eat seven or eight times a day. It’s just the way we are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"839\" data-end=\"854\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"856\" data-end=\"1237\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"856\" data-end=\"873\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> Defining Malaysian food is not an easy task. There are so many cultures and influences from all over the world. You want something savory, something sweet, you want something spicy, there’s something for everyone. Curry leaf is something that all cultures in Malaysia primarily use. The Indian, Chinese, Malay, and the Peranakan cultures, they all use curry leaf.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1239\" data-end=\"1653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1239\" data-end=\"1256\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> One of my favorite things to cook is char koay teow. It is a flat rice noodle similar to Pad Thai. Char koay teow is a favorite of everybody in Malaysia. Drinks are part of the Malaysian cuisine, but you know, our most popular item, which is the teh tarik, which is literally translated to “pulled tea.” We mix them and cool them down by pouring from one cup to the other cup as high as possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1692\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1665\">Group:\u003c/strong> Wow! [cheers and applause]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1694\" data-end=\"1718\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1694\" data-end=\"1707\">Customer:\u003c/strong> Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1720\" data-end=\"1759\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1720\" data-end=\"1737\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> Don’t change a thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1761\" data-end=\"1792\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1761\" data-end=\"1774\">Customer:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay, okay!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1794\" data-end=\"2084\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1794\" data-end=\"1811\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> The best compliment that I can get from any Malaysian who comes in here is like, “Wow, this is just like going back home to eat. Now, I don’t have to fly back to eat.” Your regular. It makes me feel good that I’ve done justice to our national food and to my favorite dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2086\" data-end=\"2101\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2103\" data-end=\"2209\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2103\" data-end=\"2122\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, Dashini, it’s been a challenge for you, hasn’t it, to find real Malaysian cuisine?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2211\" data-end=\"2483\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2211\" data-end=\"2234\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> It has been. I tend to try and get the adjacent cuisines like Thai food, et cetera, but it’s not the same, and I’ve been on the hunt, and I finally chanced upon Curry Leaves Bistro and lo and behold, it’s like the Malaysian embassy of the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2485\" data-end=\"2507\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2485\" data-end=\"2496\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2509\" data-end=\"2556\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2509\" data-end=\"2528\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You found it! You found it!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2558\" data-end=\"2599\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2558\" data-end=\"2581\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I found it, yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2601\" data-end=\"2682\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2601\" data-end=\"2620\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what is it? What do you, you know, draws you in the door?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2684\" data-end=\"3163\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2684\" data-end=\"2707\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Oh, the dish that brings me into that restaurant is char koay teow, which is a childhood favorite. And char means, sort of, stir-fried. And it’s rice noodles cooked with soy sauce, bean sprouts, green chives in there, tons of shrimp, which I love. This real flavor from the wok that it’s cooked in — that sense of, I think it’s called wok hei — and that is something that char koay teow from Curry Leaves Bistro has in spades. So, that’s one of my go-tos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3165\" data-end=\"3230\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3165\" data-end=\"3184\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what did you start with when you went in?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3232\" data-end=\"3413\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3232\" data-end=\"3255\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> So, as a starter, I had the roti canai, which is, like, the roti crispy bread paired with the curry. And I have a weakness for, like, layered crispy bread…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3415\" data-end=\"3447\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3415\" data-end=\"3434\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Who doesn’t?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3449\" data-end=\"3578\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3449\" data-end=\"3472\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Right, exactly. And it was so buttery. And then, you just dip it right in that curry, and it was so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3741\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3598\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Super delicious to just dip it inside the curry that had a piece of chicken in it that was an actual piece of chicken with a bone still in it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3743\" data-end=\"3765\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3743\" data-end=\"3754\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3767\" data-end=\"4120\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3767\" data-end=\"3785\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Like, it was great bang for your buck for just this one plate. And I also had the mee goreng, and it is kind of like a Chinese chow mein. That’s what it reminded me of. It came with a healthy portion of shrimp, and calamari, and just beansprouts for crunch, and green onions for freshness. And it was just a delicious, delicious meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4122\" data-end=\"4723\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4122\" data-end=\"4145\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> So, one of the dishes that I really like to also get there is called nasi kandar. And that means carried rice, and it was brought to Malaysia by Indian immigrants who would sell rice on wooden poles. And so, that rice dish comes with a beautiful curry as well as a side of pickles. So, it’s a nice complement to the spiciness of the curry. Always comes with some kind of protein, I get it with chicken, but my daughter is vegetarian and so she got it with tofu and really enjoyed it. And we got something called mee rebus, which was a noodle dish that came with a potato gravy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4725\" data-end=\"4775\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4725\" data-end=\"4742\">Jai Kandayah:\u003c/strong> It’s a sweet potato based gravy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"4777\" data-end=\"4953\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4777\" data-end=\"4800\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Sounds dodgy, but it’s actually very good. And on top of it was a couple of crispy shrimp. 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And I will get everything that you just said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"5177\" data-end=\"5211\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5177\" data-end=\"5200\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Next time!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"150\" data-end=\"249\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"150\" data-end=\"164\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I also got a fried chicken, kind of traditional fried chicken, but spiced very well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"251\" data-end=\"326\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"251\" data-end=\"268\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> We double fry our chicken so that it is moist and crispy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"328\" data-end=\"401\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"328\" data-end=\"346\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> And yeah, it’s really simple, but it’s really crunchy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"403\" data-end=\"470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"403\" data-end=\"422\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And is that a Malaysian traditional dish or no?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"512\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"489\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> We love fried chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"514\" data-end=\"536\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"514\" data-end=\"525\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"538\" data-end=\"669\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"538\" data-end=\"555\">Rounak Dumra:\u003c/strong> You know, I mean, in Malaysia, you could get fried chicken for breakfast. 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Bandung?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1001\" data-end=\"1167\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1001\" data-end=\"1019\">Rashawn Moore:\u003c/strong> Bandung, yes, exactly. It was so different because I’ve never had a floral drink. I got a large, and it was just like, I have to drink all of this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1169\" data-end=\"1305\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1169\" data-end=\"1192\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> So, I tried it, and I’m not much of a floral kind of person, but you know who drank all of it was my 3-year-old!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1307\" data-end=\"1329\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1307\" data-end=\"1318\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1331\" data-end=\"1433\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1331\" data-end=\"1354\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> She said, “Ooh, it’s a pink, pretty drink! And it tastes sweet and delicious!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1435\" data-end=\"1511\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1435\" data-end=\"1454\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you feel like the portions were big? Just right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1513\" data-end=\"1543\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1513\" data-end=\"1527\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> Decently sized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1545\" data-end=\"1580\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1545\" data-end=\"1568\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1582\" data-end=\"1653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1582\" data-end=\"1601\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you bring any home or did you eat it all there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1683\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1669\">Erin Hurd:\u003c/strong> I ate it all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1685\" data-end=\"1707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1685\" data-end=\"1696\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1709\" data-end=\"1782\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1709\" data-end=\"1728\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, it’s a real discovery, isn’t it, for everybody.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1784\" data-end=\"1820\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1784\" data-end=\"1807\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> I love that!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1822\" data-end=\"1896\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1822\" data-end=\"1841\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And hard for you to find! It was hard for you to find.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1898\" data-end=\"1969\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1898\" data-end=\"1921\">Dashini Jeyathurai:\u003c/strong> It was hard to find but now we’ve got our spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1971\" data-end=\"1993\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1971\" data-end=\"1982\">Guests:\u003c/strong> [laughing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"1995\" data-end=\"2174\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1995\" data-end=\"2014\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try Curry Leaves Bistro, it’s located on Las Positas Boulevard in Pleasanton, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $25.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2176\" data-end=\"2302\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2176\" data-end=\"2195\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And now, reporter \u003cstrong data-start=\"2214\" data-end=\"2234\">Cecilia Phillips\u003c/strong> samples South Asian treats and beats in the heart of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2304\" data-end=\"2456\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2304\" data-end=\"2325\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Bhangra and Beats is an all-ages free night market that celebrates South Asian culture through food, through music, through dance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2458\" data-end=\"2496\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2458\" data-end=\"2473\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> Lift them up and walk!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2498\" data-end=\"2673\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2498\" data-end=\"2519\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I heard that tonight’s celebration was especially important because this is the first time that San Francisco has put on an event that celebrates Diwali.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2675\" data-end=\"2961\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2675\" data-end=\"2690\">Vicki Virk:\u003c/strong> Yes, Diwali is a time to reflect, come together, give thanks, and to remember the beautiful things in life. There is such a massive population of South Asians in the Bay Area, and to be able to have their culture celebrated at a platform like this is absolutely amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2963\" data-end=\"2978\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"2980\" data-end=\"3111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2980\" data-end=\"2995\">Ranjan Dey:\u003c/strong> New Delhi Restaurant is a mixed immigrant family legacy business serving the most freaking Dey-licious Indian food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3178\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3134\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Dey-licious. A play on your last name, Dey?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3180\" data-end=\"3207\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3180\" data-end=\"3195\">Ranjan Dey:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3209\" data-end=\"3236\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3209\" data-end=\"3230\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3238\" data-end=\"3372\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3238\" data-end=\"3253\">Ranjan Dey:\u003c/strong> This is called joy bomb. A rice ball covered with panko batter and fried. And you will be so joyful, you will tear up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3374\" data-end=\"3441\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3374\" data-end=\"3395\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Oh, okay, alright! Somebody grab me a tissue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3443\" data-end=\"3510\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3443\" data-end=\"3458\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> Then you can do, screw the light bulb, pet the dog.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3512\" data-end=\"3552\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3512\" data-end=\"3533\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Is that the dance?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3554\" data-end=\"3581\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3554\" data-end=\"3569\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> Dance move!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3583\" data-end=\"3624\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3583\" data-end=\"3604\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> So, it goes like…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3626\" data-end=\"3652\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3626\" data-end=\"3641\">Instructor:\u003c/strong> Like that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3654\" data-end=\"3695\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3654\" data-end=\"3675\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Yeah! There you go!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"3697\" data-end=\"3759\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3697\" data-end=\"3718\">Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Alright, so I’ve danced. 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Bay Area.\u003c/em> I’m \u003cstrong data-start=\"6111\" data-end=\"6129\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong> and I’ll see you then.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"\" data-start=\"6154\" data-end=\"6199\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6154\" data-end=\"6173\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Cheers! 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 19, episode 15, airs Thursday, February 20, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This week’s culinary adventure begins at \u003cstrong>Bhan Mae Vane\u003c/strong> in Alameda, a vibrant eatery specializing in bold, aromatic Laotian cuisine. Highlights include tangy, refreshing papaya salad, spicy and savory pad kee mao noodles, and perfectly crisped pork belly. Next, \u003cstrong>Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack\u003c/strong> in San Francisco’s Mission District combines a quirky, eclectic vibe with satisfying Italian-American comfort food. Guests enjoy their hearty five-layer Cadillac lasagna, spaghetti and meatballs, and their juicy, flavorful steak dinners served with red peppercorn jus and pesto spaghetti. Lastly, \u003cstrong>District\u003c/strong> in downtown Oakland brings an elegant yet approachable dining experience, offering expertly crafted shareable plates designed to pair with an artfully curated selection of wines and cocktails. From classic Margherita pizza and crispy arancini romano to tender lamb meatballs and elote topped with roasted chili crema and cotija cheese, District’s menu thrills both wine enthusiasts and food lovers alike.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23378\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23378\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03.png 1620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Richard Hsu, Tonya Thomas and Jeff Hunt from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bhanmaevane.com/\">\u003cstrong>Bhan Mae Vane\u003c/strong> (Alameda)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://sfspaghettishack.com/\">\u003cstrong>Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://districtoak.com/\">\u003cstrong>District\u003c/strong> (Oakland)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23379\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1020x1360.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-160x213.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-768x1024.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1152x1536.png 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1536x2048.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1920x2560.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cuvaison.com/wines/release/2023-estate-sauvignon-blanc-2023\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">\u003cb>Cuvaison 2022 Sauvignon Blanc\u003c/b>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Napa Valley, Los Carneros, California $28\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nAs one of Napa Valley’s classic family producers, Cuvaison was founded in 1969 and has become not only a wine country destination but also a creator of benchmark wines. 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This is one of the first examples I heartily recommend. Light lemon-lime aromas are followed by a bright mouthful of flavor. Enjoy with chips and salsa on a sunny day.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"386\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"340\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Bold Laotian and Thai flavors in Alameda…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"439\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"402\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Hands on. I like to touch my food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"485\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"459\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"553\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"506\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …a quirky Italian spot in San Francisco…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"623\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"572\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"697\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"644\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and a hip wine and whiskey lounge in Oakland…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"756\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"715\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Trust me, that dish did not last long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"777\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …just ahead on \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"847\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"841\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"879\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"868\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"881\" data-end=\"898\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"1426\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>, the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today are retired lawyer and podcaster \u003cstrong data-start=\"1286\" data-end=\"1301\">Richard Hsu\u003c/strong>, podcaster and editor \u003cstrong data-start=\"1324\" data-end=\"1337\">Jeff Hunt\u003c/strong>, and senior analyst \u003cstrong data-start=\"1358\" data-end=\"1374\">Tonya Thomas\u003c/strong>. Well, welcome, everyone. Are you ready to party?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1443\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1436\">All:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1699\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1464\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Richard’s up first with his favorite date-night spot. It’s a casual little eatery founded by two sisters, bringing their own modern twist to traditional Thai and Laotian dishes. Nestled in the heart of Alameda, it’s Bhan Mae Vane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1732\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1715\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> Welcome, guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1841\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1748\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane is a Lao and Thai restaurant in the heart of Alameda, family-run business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1986\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1857\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> When we created this business, we created it in honor of our mom. My family came from Vientiane, which is the capital of Laos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2327\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2002\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Growing up, my mom ran a family restaurant. But back in those days, it was Thai food. It wasn’t Laotian food. My mom was afraid to really bring that out because nobody knew anything about Laos. Lao food, some ingredients are pungent, like anchovy sauce and shrimp paste sauce, so it adds a little bit more depth of flavor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"3041\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"2343\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Nam Khao is our crispy rice ball salad that is a traditional Laotian dish, but it’s my mom’s twist to things—like add a little bit of this to give it more flavor here—because people don’t do that. So we’ve learned those little tips and tricks from her. My favorite item on the menu is the sakoo. Sakoo is savory tapioca balls. It’s ground pork with fresh shallots, onions, garlic, peanuts, wrapped with tapioca dough. Back in the day before we opened our restaurant, you’d get lucky if you’d get it from a little old lady selling it at the temple. It’s just a dish that you just can’t find anywhere. You wrap it all up in a bite-size and just pop it in, and it’s like, the best thing ever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3146\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3057\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> People are actually coming in and ordering the Thai food and exploring the Lao food…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3170\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3162\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3211\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3186\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> …and also loving it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3578\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3227\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> If my mom was here and she could see what we’ve done with this restaurant in honor of her, I think she would be proud. My mom did get a chance to try my food, and one of the last things that she asked for before she passed away was, um… [voice breaking] my Pad Thai. She loved my food. And if she were to be looking down, she’d be very proud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3607\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3588\">All:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3609\" data-end=\"3621\">[cheering]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3742\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3642\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, Richard, you live in San Francisco, but you make that trek to Alameda. Is it worth it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"4016\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"3760\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s totally worth it for Bhan Mae Vane. My girlfriend grew up in Alameda. She discovered this restaurant. It’s very family-friendly. You can have large groups of people there. It’s bright and airy, it’s modern. It’s really a fun place to have dinner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4067\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4037\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what do you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4444\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4085\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So we always start with the sakoo, which is this amazing dish that’s served in a bamboo platter. And actually, eating it is kind of like a project. You take the tapioca ball, you put the mint leaf on top, you wrap it in lettuce, and then you eat it like a little burrito, maybe. And then you just get this wonderful sensation of chewiness and crispiness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4465\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s one of those dishes we call “you can play with your food,” right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4567\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4614\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4588\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have that dish?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4765\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4630\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I did. Hands on. I like to touch my food. And there’s no manual, so you’re just kind of making it up as you go. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"5177\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"4784\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I ended up getting the pineapple khao pad. It was a beautiful dish. It had raisins. It had pineapple. Oh, and I can’t forget the cashews. That was just delicious and made everything come together very, very well. Then we ordered the garlic noodles. The noodles were buttery, which was absolutely delicious. It wasn’t overly garlicky. Very creamy. They came out hot. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5221\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5195\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s good to hear that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5277\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5242\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. What about you, Jeff?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5524\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5293\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Fried tofu. Yum! With the Thai-style peanut sauce. I will never kick fried anything—especially tofu—out of bed. And it was delicious. I don’t know if it had to do with the way they cut it in triangles, but the fry was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5545\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Because triangles maybe give more fry sides?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> On the outsides. And the inside stayed soft and delicious and creamy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5753\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5698\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did you notice how generous the portions were there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5769\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yes, I did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5904\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5801\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> That’s one thing—you really get good bang for your buck at this restaurant. There’s often leftovers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5932\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5920\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5965\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5951\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"6620\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"5983\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> The main dish that we like that’s really excellent is their papaya salad, which is hand-shredded papaya. They make two styles. There’s a Thai style and a Laotian style. Now, the Thai style a lot of people have had—that’s just with standard fish sauce. But the Laotian style has a shrimp paste, so it makes it a little bit more seafoody. And Laotian food can be extremely spicy, so you have to specify which level of spiciness you want. It’s served with crunchy pork rinds, some soft noodles, as well as some cabbage, so it’s just an interesting experience. I’ve never been to Thailand or Laos, but it just makes me want to go there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6641\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, they’re right next to each other, right? So the cuisines are very, very similar. But as you said, just those minor differences make quite a difference in what you’re getting on the plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6866\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6855\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6901\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6887\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"89\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I actually visited Laos, and one of the things I loved the most was the food. And larb, in Thai, is one of my favorite Thai dishes. At this place, I believe it’s the same thing, called laab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"334\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"299\">Server:\u003c/strong> I have Laab Seen for you guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"504\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"350\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And I was asked about the spice, and I said medium. I’m adventurous. And it was a little more than what I would call medium. I’ll just put it that way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"550\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"522\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was probably a killer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"566\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> [laughs] Yeah, right, right. But it was delicious all the same. It’s minced chicken meat and then herbs and peppers, and it’s so flavorful and just a really good dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"792\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"759\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Any other dishes that you had?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"1126\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"811\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I did. I tried the red curry, and the protein that we used was the chicken. It came in this beautiful dish. It had lots of vegetables—bell peppers, radish. It had a whole lot of different vegetables in there that just merged very nicely together. The only thing, I just wish they had a little bit more chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1158\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1144\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1257\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1177\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> And the sauce was a little spicy, but the dish itself was delicious, so yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1278\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1393\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1302\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I don’t want to leave this restaurant discussion without talking about the pork belly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1417\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1411\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1487\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1438\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us. Tell us. ‘Cause I’m a pork belly fan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1503\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Good morning, good afternoon, and good night. I mean, I also won’t kick any pork belly out of bed, but what I really loved is that the crispiness was crisp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1688\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1680\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1812\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1704\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And the belly was soft. So you had that texture experience in your mouth, and the flavors—oh my goodness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1830\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1882\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1853\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s just so, so, so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"2001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"1900\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So one of the drinks that I don’t know if you guys got to try is called the Thai iced green tea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2032\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2017\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, wow. No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2297\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2050\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Which is not like a regular Thai iced tea. This is actually a green-colored drink with maybe a little bit of matcha in it. And it was layered so that the milk was on top and the green part was on the bottom, but it was very floral and fragrant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2349\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2318\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you get any dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2367\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They only have two desserts there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2423\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2416\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2478\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2441\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> One is a sticky rice mango dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2505\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2494\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2971\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2523\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> And one is an egg custard purple rice dish. And they’re both served with this coconut creamy sauce, which makes it kind of a little savory and kind of a little bit sweet, and in both cases, you have the contrast of the rice, which is warm, and then you’ve got the cold mango, and then you have the warm purple rice with kind of a cold egg custard. So it just makes a beautiful kind of a soft dessert. But it really kind of rounds out the meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"3033\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"2992\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Definitely cleanses your palate after.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3051\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It cleanses your palate. It’s just kind of perfect, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3175\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3127\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s like a goodbye kiss from the restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3232\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3193\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that’s exactly what it’s like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3293\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3253\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I love that. Would you stop by again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3631\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3312\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, absolutely. The service was good. We got there about lunchtime, and it wasn’t that many folks. We got seated pretty quickly. But I kid you not, within about 15 minutes, it started getting very full, to the point where they needed a wait list. So it just kind of attests to it being a very popular place to go to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3714\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3652\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And it sounded like you’ll go back just for those desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3825\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3730\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Especially after this conversation, I’m going back, yeah. I’ll find a way to get to Alameda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3892\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3846\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You need that little kiss of dessert there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3919\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3908\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"4099\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"3940\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. If you would like to try Bhan Mae Vane, it’s located on Webster Street in Alameda, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $30.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"357\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> As a podcaster, Jeff has a passion for telling stories of the unique people and places you can only find in the city by the Bay. Case in point—the eclectic spot that’s become his go-to for Italian comfort food. Located in San Francisco’s Mission District, it’s Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"503\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"377\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The vibe of Emmy’s is super laid back, a little quirky. And I think it’s really, really hard to not have fun in this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"521\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"519\">[Cheering]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"539\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> I founded the restaurant in 2001. I was a server at the time in some pretty fancy places. We wanted somewhere to eat after work at 10:00, 11:00. We wanted music, we wanted good food, and a place where we could all feel like we belonged and we didn’t have to dress up and get fancy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"1096\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"843\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> We don’t shy away from the portions here at Emmy’s. Italian-American comfort food, top to bottom. It’s big spaghetti and meatballs. It’s a big lasagna. You can share it with your friends. You can eat it yourself. No judgment, whatever you want to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1422\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1114\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> The thing I’m most proud of on the menu is the Cadillac Lasagna—vodka sauce, ricotta, sunflower seed pesto. We do a pork and beef ragu. You don’t get a lot of al dente lasagna. It’s not easy to do it. You should never be baking your lasagna. You’re baking your lasagna, you’re going the wrong direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1442\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The clientele at Emmy’s is all over the place, and I love that. It’s young, old. The servers—they’re always really nice people. They’re gonna be smiling. We’ll tell jokes. We’ll do shots if that’s your thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1704\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1665\">Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers, prost, yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1873\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1724\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> It’s really a community place. And that’s the thing that Emmy did, and I’m gonna keep going with. It’s one of my favorite things about this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1985\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1894\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You know, to use the word unique about Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack, why do you think that is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2127\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2001\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I think of the place as part art gallery, part little kids’ playground, and part delicious, warm, comforting, hugging food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2157\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2148\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2181\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2173\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2216\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2202\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> In a shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2341\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2232\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> In a shack, yeah. I mean, yeah, and also the alliteration. Spaghetti Shack—who doesn’t want to go there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2425\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2362\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s right. Okay, you walk in the door. What do you order?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2805\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2441\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> The first thing I usually order is their Caesar salad, which I think of as kind of a deconstructed Caesar. They’ve got the long strips of romaine covered with toasted Parmesan, and I don’t know what they do to their croutons, but they stay crunchy through the dressing, which is an anchovy dressing. And, hello, hello, hello, hello. Get in my mouth, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2862\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2826\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. It checks all those boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2898\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2878\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> All of the boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2973\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what about you, Tonya? What did you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"3267\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"2992\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> So I started with the butter lettuce salad. I’m a little disappointed now that I didn’t get the Caesar salad. The butter lettuce salad was basic. It had some radishes on it, and it had a citrusy dressing. It was good, but I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3326\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3283\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> You gotta be a little naughty at Emmy’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3365\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3345\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Exactly, exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3428\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3386\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. What did you start with, Richard?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3537\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3446\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, I started with their spaghetti and meatballs. That’s what—they’re famous for it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3574\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3556\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Skip the salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3942\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3592\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. The spaghetti and meatballs. And I have to say, like, you know, I’m not a really big spaghetti person, but this spaghetti was just—it tasted like homemade. The meatballs were gigantic. This made me remember, like, how my mom might have made it. Or maybe my grandma made it. And I think that’s why people really love this restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"4022\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"3963\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Jeff, did you get the spaghetti and meatballs this time?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4150\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4038\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Because the spaghetti and meatballs is one of my best friends in the city, I chose not to get that this time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4243\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4171\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But do you agree, when you have gotten it, with Richard’s assessment?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4523\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4259\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s one of my good friends. I like to hang out with him. Him and her. No, because in general, I love lasagna. It’s one of my best comfort foods. And I had never had their lasagna. But it’s a different sauce than the spaghetti. It’s a light red vodka sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4565\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4541\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yes, I remember that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4780\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4581\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Also delicious. And then they do a little dollop of pesto and a little dollop of ricotta. So it’s got that Margherita, tricolore kind of Italian thing going on, and it was out of this world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"5029\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"4799\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I had the lasagna as well, and I wholeheartedly agree. It was delicious. What I also enjoyed, too, was that the noodle itself was al dente, because sometimes people make it a little mushy. It was perfect, and you get a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5118\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5047\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did either of you get the garlic bread on the side, by any chance?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5208\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5134\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I didn’t on this last trip, but I know exactly that of which you speak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5560\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5226\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was so funny, because we ordered that kind of accidentally at the very end. And when that came out, we went with a group of friends, and they just wolfed that thing down. [laughs] I mean, this might be the best dish here. So I didn’t know. I just thought, “Maybe we should have a little garlic bread with spaghetti, you know?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5576\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> To sop it up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5643\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And it was—people just loved it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5691\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5664\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread for you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5907\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5710\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread. I had the focaccia bread that came with my dish. So that piece of bread came in handy. Was able to sop it up and finish it all. I literally—there was nothing left on my plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5934\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5923\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"419\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"65\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, we had the lasagna also, but the dish that we also had on top of that—we had a lot of people—was the peppercorn steak and the pesto spaghetti that goes on the side. And what’s amazing about the steak—it’s very tender and grilled and everything—is they put peppercorns in the steak, which I think tenderizes it. I’d never had that before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"435\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s also a peppercorn au jus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"514\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"488\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, is that what it is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"530\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Got it, got it. And I wasn’t expecting that at a Spaghetti Shack, but it was really a nice dish. And we were really thrilled that we ordered that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"767\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"728\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you have anything to sip on?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"979\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"785\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I had this really interesting drink called Lupe Under the Sun, and it was served with a little orange, and it had an umbrella in it, and it was a spicy mango tequila. Really hit the spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"1002\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"995\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1077\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1023\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You would definitely be on the beach under the sun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1117\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1095\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> For sure, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1153\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1138\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1637\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1171\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They have two off-the-menu desserts. There are actually no desserts on the menu, but we saw two desserts go by us as we were sitting there. So we, you know, pulled off the waiter and said, “Hey, what are those?” And then they told us it’s this decadent, decadent brownie with two scoops of ice cream, and they have a peanut butter bar with two scoops of ice cream. So when he said, “Look, these are the only two desserts,” we said, “We’ll take them both.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1661\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1653\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1721\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1682\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I’m gonna call you my dessert guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1804\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1739\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I know. I’m your dessert guy. We went all out on the desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1874\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1825\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm. And you did not have dessert, did you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1910\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1893\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No, I did not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1975\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1931\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. You did not see the desserts go by?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"2000\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"1994\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2044\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2018\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They’re off-menu, so…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2065\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Think of the calories you saved yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2591\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2130\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, lots. Although I think I made up with it with the wine because I absolutely had wine with my dinner. And I actually made it for happy hour, which was nice. I went on a Tuesday. So what I didn’t realize was that on Tuesdays, kids eat free. And I just kept seeing all these little kids coming. I’m like, “Oh, they’re cute.” I’m all, “Oh, there’s a lot of them.” And then I go, “Oh, it’s…” you know, they said, “Yes, it’s Kids Eat Free night.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2593\" data-end=\"2730\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2593\" data-end=\"2612\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s a beautiful thing to have in that neighborhood, especially with the cost of food and taking your family out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2732\" data-end=\"2763\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2732\" data-end=\"2749\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2765\" data-end=\"2787\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2765\" data-end=\"2779\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2789\" data-end=\"2881\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2789\" data-end=\"2808\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you go back repeatedly, so you obviously feel the prices are fair?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2883\" data-end=\"3053\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2883\" data-end=\"2897\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I do, and I don’t always finish my meal. So sometimes it’s two meals, so even more bang for your buck. It’s a comforting food and a comforting place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3263\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3074\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, if you would like to try Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack, it’s located on Mission Street in San Francisco, and the average dinner tab per person without drinks is around \u003cstrong data-start=\"3253\" data-end=\"3260\">$50\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3265\" data-end=\"3522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3265\" data-end=\"3284\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tonya’s a girl after my own heart. Give her a glass of Pinot paired with some globally inspired small plates, and she’s all set for the perfect night out. She’s found her happy place in the heart of Old Oakland at District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3524\" data-end=\"3545\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3524\" data-end=\"3543\">[music playing]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3714\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3562\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> When you walk into District, it’s so fun, energetic, good food, good conversation. It’s a wonderful place to hang out and enjoy downtown Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3751\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3725\">Host:\u003c/strong> We need a spot for two?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3753\" data-end=\"3807\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3753\" data-end=\"3768\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> All right. Let’s see what we can do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3809\" data-end=\"4136\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3809\" data-end=\"3824\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Our original location in San Francisco was solely a wine bar. When we opened up the Oakland location, our concept expanded into a wine and whiskey bar. We do flights of whiskey as well as single portions, and we have a large amount of allocated whiskeys you really can’t find almost anywhere else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4138\" data-end=\"4172\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4138\" data-end=\"4148\">Guest:\u003c/strong> Cheers to District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4174\" data-end=\"4201\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4174\" data-end=\"4187\">Guest #2:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4218\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Here at District, we do love our strong flavors. 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We have so many regulars who support us. People enjoy coming here after work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5065\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5054\">Guest #3:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5067\" data-end=\"5091\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5067\" data-end=\"5080\">Guest #4:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5373\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5108\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> And then in the evening time, we turn into a more vibrant lounge with exciting music and just a lot of fun entertainment. Walk in on any Friday night, I know half the people at the bar, and they know each other. It’s really a wonderful place to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5375\" data-end=\"5423\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5375\" data-end=\"5388\">Guest #5:\u003c/strong> That’s the town biz, baby. Uh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"184\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Tonya, this place looks like a good spot to watch a game, right, or sit at the bar. What brings you there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"186\" data-end=\"515\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"186\" data-end=\"203\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> So not only can you watch the game. There might be a birthday party going on, an anniversary. There’s a lot of different things that go on at District. People think, “Oh, it’s a bar.” But when you look at the menu, you’re like, “Okay, these aren’t typical things that you could see at a bar per se.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"517\" data-end=\"903\">I always start with the Arancini Romano. It has a nice breadcrumb crust on the outside, and inside, nice cheesy risotto and spinach. Really delicious. It also is plated very nicely. It has this little garnish that comes on top. And then there’s this delicious smoked tomato sauce. Oh, my goodness. You have to get that and put it on there. It’s absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"905\" data-end=\"980\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"905\" data-end=\"924\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, Jeff, what was your experience at District?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"982\" data-end=\"1025\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"982\" data-end=\"996\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Big fan of deviled eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1027\" data-end=\"1084\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1027\" data-end=\"1043\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, they have the deviled eggs, yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1086\" data-end=\"1259\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1086\" data-end=\"1100\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Fermented chili and pickled radish is what’s inside. And it just filled my mouth with experience, flavor, and happiness. Yeah, wonderful way to start.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1261\" data-end=\"1296\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1261\" data-end=\"1280\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Happy eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1320\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1312\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1322\" data-end=\"1680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1322\" data-end=\"1338\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> We had the lamb meatballs with the garlic bread. I don’t know if you’ve tried that, but they were really delicious. You know, lamb can be gamey sometimes, but what they do is they put mint leaves into the lamb. So it really makes it a nice flavor. And then the garlic bread to go with it—it was just the perfect contrast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1682\" data-end=\"1718\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1682\" data-end=\"1699\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes. Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1720\" data-end=\"1747\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1720\" data-end=\"1739\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1749\" data-end=\"2044\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1749\" data-end=\"1766\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Because I go there often, I got the dinner for two. The dinner for two is actually a great value. It comes with a starter, entrée, and it also comes with a salad. So it’s a perfect thing to get when you go there and you don’t want to spend a whole lot of money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2295\">The organic greens—oh, my goodness. It’s probably one of the best salads that I’ve had any place. They have the avocados, the spicy sunflower seeds, the citrus, the watermelon radish. It’s just a beautiful salad and absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2297\" data-end=\"2402\">And then recently, I ordered their pizza. I’m not sure if you guys got a chance to try their pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2404\" data-end=\"2431\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2404\" data-end=\"2420\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2433\" data-end=\"2666\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2433\" data-end=\"2450\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> It’s a very simple pizza. It’s on a thin crust. Very cheesy. I love the Margherita and the basil on there, so it’s really good. But you can definitely order all kinds of different varieties on there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2668\" data-end=\"2758\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2668\" data-end=\"2684\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> We did have that pizza, and we actually added prosciutto to that…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2760\" data-end=\"2784\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2760\" data-end=\"2777\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2786\" data-end=\"2862\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2786\" data-end=\"2802\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> …which they said was one of the most common things…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2910\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2881\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Good choice. Yes, it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2912\" data-end=\"3030\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2912\" data-end=\"2928\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Our waiter said, “This is one of the most popular dishes.” So, yes, that was really terrific.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3032\" data-end=\"3056\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3032\" data-end=\"3049\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3058\" data-end=\"3544\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3058\" data-end=\"3072\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I’m also a big fan of a Spanish dish called gambas al ajillo. And it’s prawns and garlic—that’s kind of the base of it. The way that District did it was very special. It’s served on a lemon risotto, so full of flavor and so bright and beautiful yellow, which contrasts with the redness of the prawns. They were grilled perfectly, and there were fried capers that were kind of dotted all around it. I didn’t know that existed, and now I do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3546\" data-end=\"3609\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3546\" data-end=\"3565\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They add a nice little pop of herbal…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3611\" data-end=\"3750\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3611\" data-end=\"3625\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> A pop, and that beautiful—yes. So good. My companion that day is vegan, so the Brussels sprouts that we ordered…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3752\" data-end=\"3783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3752\" data-end=\"3769\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3785\" data-end=\"3881\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3785\" data-end=\"3799\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> …we had to get them without the pork, and he also has a pine nut allergy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3883\" data-end=\"3908\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3883\" data-end=\"3900\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3910\" data-end=\"3943\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3910\" data-end=\"3924\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Still amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3945\" data-end=\"3970\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3945\" data-end=\"3962\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3972\" data-end=\"4087\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3972\" data-end=\"3986\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I think Brussels sprouts aren’t easy, I’m gonna say. But they did them absolutely perfectly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4089\" data-end=\"4114\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4089\" data-end=\"4106\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4116\" data-end=\"4202\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4116\" data-end=\"4130\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And I felt like all the food was on a level above. Really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4204\" data-end=\"4275\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4204\" data-end=\"4220\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, and since I’m the dessert guy, apparently…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4277\" data-end=\"4371\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4277\" data-end=\"4296\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I know. I was waiting to get to dessert. Richard, what did you have?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4373\" data-end=\"4434\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4373\" data-end=\"4389\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They had a pear and black currant crisp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4436\" data-end=\"4459\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4436\" data-end=\"4450\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yum!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4461\" data-end=\"4624\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4461\" data-end=\"4477\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Okay? It had that oat crisp, served hot with, of course, cold ice cream on top, which melted over the edges. Anyway, it was fantastic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4626\" data-end=\"4698\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4626\" data-end=\"4645\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, how many spoons were ordered with that one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4700\" data-end=\"4832\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4700\" data-end=\"4716\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> We had four spoons. And trust me, that dish did not last long. The ice cream didn’t even have time to melt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4834\" data-end=\"4982\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4834\" data-end=\"4853\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s good! And with all that food, did you feel like, hey, this is affordable? This is a place I could come back to?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4984\" data-end=\"5254\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4984\" data-end=\"5000\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Definitely. I mean, definitely. I’m not sure about bringing, like, a family, because it’s kind of more of an adult place, but definitely for coworkers to come after work and kind of decompress after a long week, I think it’s perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5256\" data-end=\"5289\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5256\" data-end=\"5273\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5291\" data-end=\"5400\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5291\" data-end=\"5305\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah. I’m a city kid, but I love Oakland. And I especially—you know, it’s BART-able.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5402\" data-end=\"5428\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5402\" data-end=\"5419\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5430\" data-end=\"5590\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5430\" data-end=\"5444\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Short walk from BART. I love that little part of Oakland. Old Oakland is a really cool section, so I will definitely be going back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5592\" data-end=\"5618\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5592\" data-end=\"5609\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5620\" data-end=\"5658\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5620\" data-end=\"5636\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Fantastic choice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5660\" data-end=\"5837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5660\" data-end=\"5679\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try District, it’s located on Washington Street in Old Oakland, and the average tab per person without drinks is around \u003cstrong data-start=\"5827\" data-end=\"5834\">$45\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"198\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Looking for more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try? 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Bay Area\u003c/em>.” I’m \u003cstrong data-start=\"653\" data-end=\"671\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>, and I’ll see you then.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"701\" data-end=\"733\">Cheers, and \u003cstrong data-start=\"713\" data-end=\"731\">cheers to you!\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"735\" data-end=\"763\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"735\" data-end=\"751\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"765\" data-end=\"821\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"765\" data-end=\"784\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Great job, great job, great job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"823\" data-end=\"854\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"823\" data-end=\"852\">[Indistinct conversation]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"907\" data-end=\"1212\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"907\" data-end=\"925\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The space has been here about 24 years now. When I first walked in three years ago, I thought this place was so awesome. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 19, episode 15, airs Thursday, February 20, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This week’s culinary adventure begins at \u003cstrong>Bhan Mae Vane\u003c/strong> in Alameda, a vibrant eatery specializing in bold, aromatic Laotian cuisine. Highlights include tangy, refreshing papaya salad, spicy and savory pad kee mao noodles, and perfectly crisped pork belly. Next, \u003cstrong>Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack\u003c/strong> in San Francisco’s Mission District combines a quirky, eclectic vibe with satisfying Italian-American comfort food. Guests enjoy their hearty five-layer Cadillac lasagna, spaghetti and meatballs, and their juicy, flavorful steak dinners served with red peppercorn jus and pesto spaghetti. Lastly, \u003cstrong>District\u003c/strong> in downtown Oakland brings an elegant yet approachable dining experience, offering expertly crafted shareable plates designed to pair with an artfully curated selection of wines and cocktails. From classic Margherita pizza and crispy arancini romano to tender lamb meatballs and elote topped with roasted chili crema and cotija cheese, District’s menu thrills both wine enthusiasts and food lovers alike.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23378\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23378\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03.png 1620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Richard Hsu, Tonya Thomas and Jeff Hunt from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bhanmaevane.com/\">\u003cstrong>Bhan Mae Vane\u003c/strong> (Alameda)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://sfspaghettishack.com/\">\u003cstrong>Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://districtoak.com/\">\u003cstrong>District\u003c/strong> (Oakland)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23379\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1020x1360.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-160x213.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-768x1024.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1152x1536.png 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1536x2048.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1920x2560.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cuvaison.com/wines/release/2023-estate-sauvignon-blanc-2023\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">\u003cb>Cuvaison 2022 Sauvignon Blanc\u003c/b>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Napa Valley, Los Carneros, California $28\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nAs one of Napa Valley’s classic family producers, Cuvaison was founded in 1969 and has become not only a wine country destination but also a creator of benchmark wines. They are well known for elegant pinot noir and chardonnay. My pick for their superstar sipper, however, is sauvignon blanc. Made in a crisp, zesty style overflowing with lip-smacking citrus notes, this white has aromatic complexity from a touch of the grape semillon blended with the sauvignon blanc. A perfect complement to grilled fish dishes, feta-topped chicken and quinoa, and brunch casseroles. Stock up for year-round enjoyment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.vineyardbrands.com/wine.aspx?pid=159&cid=49446&wid=1625\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">\u003cstrong>Serena 2023 “MODE 0,0” Sauvignon Blanc\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Chile $15\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\nIf you’re looking for a nonalcoholic white that still captures the freshness and character of sauvignon blanc, look no further than this impressive bottling from Miguel Torres in Chile. Finding delicious wine without alcohol can be a challenge. This is one of the first examples I heartily recommend. Light lemon-lime aromas are followed by a bright mouthful of flavor. Enjoy with chips and salsa on a sunny day.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"386\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"340\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Bold Laotian and Thai flavors in Alameda…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"439\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"402\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Hands on. I like to touch my food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"485\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"459\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"553\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"506\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …a quirky Italian spot in San Francisco…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"623\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"572\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"697\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"644\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and a hip wine and whiskey lounge in Oakland…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"756\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"715\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Trust me, that dish did not last long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"777\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …just ahead on \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"847\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"841\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"879\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"868\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"881\" data-end=\"898\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"1426\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>, the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today are retired lawyer and podcaster \u003cstrong data-start=\"1286\" data-end=\"1301\">Richard Hsu\u003c/strong>, podcaster and editor \u003cstrong data-start=\"1324\" data-end=\"1337\">Jeff Hunt\u003c/strong>, and senior analyst \u003cstrong data-start=\"1358\" data-end=\"1374\">Tonya Thomas\u003c/strong>. Well, welcome, everyone. Are you ready to party?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1443\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1436\">All:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1699\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1464\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Richard’s up first with his favorite date-night spot. It’s a casual little eatery founded by two sisters, bringing their own modern twist to traditional Thai and Laotian dishes. Nestled in the heart of Alameda, it’s Bhan Mae Vane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1732\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1715\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> Welcome, guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1841\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1748\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane is a Lao and Thai restaurant in the heart of Alameda, family-run business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1986\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1857\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> When we created this business, we created it in honor of our mom. My family came from Vientiane, which is the capital of Laos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2327\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2002\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Growing up, my mom ran a family restaurant. But back in those days, it was Thai food. It wasn’t Laotian food. My mom was afraid to really bring that out because nobody knew anything about Laos. Lao food, some ingredients are pungent, like anchovy sauce and shrimp paste sauce, so it adds a little bit more depth of flavor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"3041\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"2343\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Nam Khao is our crispy rice ball salad that is a traditional Laotian dish, but it’s my mom’s twist to things—like add a little bit of this to give it more flavor here—because people don’t do that. So we’ve learned those little tips and tricks from her. My favorite item on the menu is the sakoo. Sakoo is savory tapioca balls. It’s ground pork with fresh shallots, onions, garlic, peanuts, wrapped with tapioca dough. Back in the day before we opened our restaurant, you’d get lucky if you’d get it from a little old lady selling it at the temple. It’s just a dish that you just can’t find anywhere. You wrap it all up in a bite-size and just pop it in, and it’s like, the best thing ever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3146\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3057\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> People are actually coming in and ordering the Thai food and exploring the Lao food…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3170\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3162\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3211\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3186\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> …and also loving it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3578\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3227\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> If my mom was here and she could see what we’ve done with this restaurant in honor of her, I think she would be proud. My mom did get a chance to try my food, and one of the last things that she asked for before she passed away was, um… [voice breaking] my Pad Thai. She loved my food. And if she were to be looking down, she’d be very proud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3607\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3588\">All:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3609\" data-end=\"3621\">[cheering]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3742\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3642\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, Richard, you live in San Francisco, but you make that trek to Alameda. Is it worth it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"4016\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"3760\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s totally worth it for Bhan Mae Vane. My girlfriend grew up in Alameda. She discovered this restaurant. It’s very family-friendly. You can have large groups of people there. It’s bright and airy, it’s modern. It’s really a fun place to have dinner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4067\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4037\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what do you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4444\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4085\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So we always start with the sakoo, which is this amazing dish that’s served in a bamboo platter. And actually, eating it is kind of like a project. You take the tapioca ball, you put the mint leaf on top, you wrap it in lettuce, and then you eat it like a little burrito, maybe. And then you just get this wonderful sensation of chewiness and crispiness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4465\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s one of those dishes we call “you can play with your food,” right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4567\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4614\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4588\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have that dish?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4765\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4630\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I did. Hands on. I like to touch my food. And there’s no manual, so you’re just kind of making it up as you go. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"5177\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"4784\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I ended up getting the pineapple khao pad. It was a beautiful dish. It had raisins. It had pineapple. Oh, and I can’t forget the cashews. That was just delicious and made everything come together very, very well. Then we ordered the garlic noodles. The noodles were buttery, which was absolutely delicious. It wasn’t overly garlicky. Very creamy. They came out hot. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5221\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5195\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s good to hear that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5277\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5242\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. What about you, Jeff?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5524\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5293\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Fried tofu. Yum! With the Thai-style peanut sauce. I will never kick fried anything—especially tofu—out of bed. And it was delicious. I don’t know if it had to do with the way they cut it in triangles, but the fry was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5545\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Because triangles maybe give more fry sides?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> On the outsides. And the inside stayed soft and delicious and creamy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5753\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5698\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did you notice how generous the portions were there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5769\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yes, I did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5904\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5801\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> That’s one thing—you really get good bang for your buck at this restaurant. There’s often leftovers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5932\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5920\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5965\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5951\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"6620\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"5983\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> The main dish that we like that’s really excellent is their papaya salad, which is hand-shredded papaya. They make two styles. There’s a Thai style and a Laotian style. Now, the Thai style a lot of people have had—that’s just with standard fish sauce. But the Laotian style has a shrimp paste, so it makes it a little bit more seafoody. And Laotian food can be extremely spicy, so you have to specify which level of spiciness you want. It’s served with crunchy pork rinds, some soft noodles, as well as some cabbage, so it’s just an interesting experience. I’ve never been to Thailand or Laos, but it just makes me want to go there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6641\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, they’re right next to each other, right? So the cuisines are very, very similar. But as you said, just those minor differences make quite a difference in what you’re getting on the plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6866\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6855\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6901\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6887\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"89\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I actually visited Laos, and one of the things I loved the most was the food. And larb, in Thai, is one of my favorite Thai dishes. At this place, I believe it’s the same thing, called laab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"334\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"299\">Server:\u003c/strong> I have Laab Seen for you guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"504\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"350\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And I was asked about the spice, and I said medium. I’m adventurous. And it was a little more than what I would call medium. I’ll just put it that way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"550\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"522\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was probably a killer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"566\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> [laughs] Yeah, right, right. But it was delicious all the same. It’s minced chicken meat and then herbs and peppers, and it’s so flavorful and just a really good dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"792\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"759\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Any other dishes that you had?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"1126\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"811\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I did. I tried the red curry, and the protein that we used was the chicken. It came in this beautiful dish. It had lots of vegetables—bell peppers, radish. It had a whole lot of different vegetables in there that just merged very nicely together. The only thing, I just wish they had a little bit more chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1158\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1144\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1257\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1177\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> And the sauce was a little spicy, but the dish itself was delicious, so yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1278\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1393\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1302\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I don’t want to leave this restaurant discussion without talking about the pork belly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1417\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1411\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1487\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1438\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us. Tell us. ‘Cause I’m a pork belly fan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1503\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Good morning, good afternoon, and good night. I mean, I also won’t kick any pork belly out of bed, but what I really loved is that the crispiness was crisp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1688\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1680\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1812\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1704\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And the belly was soft. So you had that texture experience in your mouth, and the flavors—oh my goodness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1830\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1882\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1853\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s just so, so, so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"2001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"1900\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So one of the drinks that I don’t know if you guys got to try is called the Thai iced green tea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2032\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2017\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, wow. No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2297\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2050\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Which is not like a regular Thai iced tea. This is actually a green-colored drink with maybe a little bit of matcha in it. And it was layered so that the milk was on top and the green part was on the bottom, but it was very floral and fragrant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2349\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2318\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you get any dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2367\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They only have two desserts there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2423\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2416\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2478\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2441\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> One is a sticky rice mango dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2505\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2494\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2971\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2523\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> And one is an egg custard purple rice dish. And they’re both served with this coconut creamy sauce, which makes it kind of a little savory and kind of a little bit sweet, and in both cases, you have the contrast of the rice, which is warm, and then you’ve got the cold mango, and then you have the warm purple rice with kind of a cold egg custard. So it just makes a beautiful kind of a soft dessert. But it really kind of rounds out the meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"3033\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"2992\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Definitely cleanses your palate after.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3051\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It cleanses your palate. It’s just kind of perfect, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3175\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3127\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s like a goodbye kiss from the restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3232\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3193\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that’s exactly what it’s like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3293\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3253\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I love that. Would you stop by again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3631\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3312\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, absolutely. The service was good. We got there about lunchtime, and it wasn’t that many folks. We got seated pretty quickly. But I kid you not, within about 15 minutes, it started getting very full, to the point where they needed a wait list. So it just kind of attests to it being a very popular place to go to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3714\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3652\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And it sounded like you’ll go back just for those desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3825\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3730\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Especially after this conversation, I’m going back, yeah. I’ll find a way to get to Alameda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3892\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3846\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You need that little kiss of dessert there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3919\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3908\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"4099\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"3940\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. If you would like to try Bhan Mae Vane, it’s located on Webster Street in Alameda, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $30.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"357\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> As a podcaster, Jeff has a passion for telling stories of the unique people and places you can only find in the city by the Bay. Case in point—the eclectic spot that’s become his go-to for Italian comfort food. Located in San Francisco’s Mission District, it’s Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"503\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"377\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The vibe of Emmy’s is super laid back, a little quirky. And I think it’s really, really hard to not have fun in this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"521\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"519\">[Cheering]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"539\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> I founded the restaurant in 2001. I was a server at the time in some pretty fancy places. We wanted somewhere to eat after work at 10:00, 11:00. We wanted music, we wanted good food, and a place where we could all feel like we belonged and we didn’t have to dress up and get fancy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"1096\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"843\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> We don’t shy away from the portions here at Emmy’s. Italian-American comfort food, top to bottom. It’s big spaghetti and meatballs. It’s a big lasagna. You can share it with your friends. You can eat it yourself. No judgment, whatever you want to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1422\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1114\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> The thing I’m most proud of on the menu is the Cadillac Lasagna—vodka sauce, ricotta, sunflower seed pesto. We do a pork and beef ragu. You don’t get a lot of al dente lasagna. It’s not easy to do it. You should never be baking your lasagna. You’re baking your lasagna, you’re going the wrong direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1442\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The clientele at Emmy’s is all over the place, and I love that. It’s young, old. The servers—they’re always really nice people. They’re gonna be smiling. We’ll tell jokes. We’ll do shots if that’s your thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1704\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1665\">Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers, prost, yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1873\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1724\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> It’s really a community place. And that’s the thing that Emmy did, and I’m gonna keep going with. It’s one of my favorite things about this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1985\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1894\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You know, to use the word unique about Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack, why do you think that is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2127\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2001\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I think of the place as part art gallery, part little kids’ playground, and part delicious, warm, comforting, hugging food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2157\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2148\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2181\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2173\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2216\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2202\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> In a shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2341\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2232\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> In a shack, yeah. I mean, yeah, and also the alliteration. Spaghetti Shack—who doesn’t want to go there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2425\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2362\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s right. Okay, you walk in the door. What do you order?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2805\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2441\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> The first thing I usually order is their Caesar salad, which I think of as kind of a deconstructed Caesar. They’ve got the long strips of romaine covered with toasted Parmesan, and I don’t know what they do to their croutons, but they stay crunchy through the dressing, which is an anchovy dressing. And, hello, hello, hello, hello. Get in my mouth, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2862\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2826\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. It checks all those boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2898\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2878\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> All of the boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2973\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what about you, Tonya? What did you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"3267\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"2992\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> So I started with the butter lettuce salad. I’m a little disappointed now that I didn’t get the Caesar salad. The butter lettuce salad was basic. It had some radishes on it, and it had a citrusy dressing. It was good, but I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3326\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3283\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> You gotta be a little naughty at Emmy’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3365\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3345\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Exactly, exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3428\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3386\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. What did you start with, Richard?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3537\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3446\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, I started with their spaghetti and meatballs. That’s what—they’re famous for it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3574\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3556\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Skip the salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3942\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3592\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. The spaghetti and meatballs. And I have to say, like, you know, I’m not a really big spaghetti person, but this spaghetti was just—it tasted like homemade. The meatballs were gigantic. This made me remember, like, how my mom might have made it. Or maybe my grandma made it. And I think that’s why people really love this restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"4022\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"3963\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Jeff, did you get the spaghetti and meatballs this time?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4150\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4038\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Because the spaghetti and meatballs is one of my best friends in the city, I chose not to get that this time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4243\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4171\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But do you agree, when you have gotten it, with Richard’s assessment?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4523\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4259\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s one of my good friends. I like to hang out with him. Him and her. No, because in general, I love lasagna. It’s one of my best comfort foods. And I had never had their lasagna. But it’s a different sauce than the spaghetti. It’s a light red vodka sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4565\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4541\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yes, I remember that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4780\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4581\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Also delicious. And then they do a little dollop of pesto and a little dollop of ricotta. So it’s got that Margherita, tricolore kind of Italian thing going on, and it was out of this world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"5029\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"4799\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I had the lasagna as well, and I wholeheartedly agree. It was delicious. What I also enjoyed, too, was that the noodle itself was al dente, because sometimes people make it a little mushy. It was perfect, and you get a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5118\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5047\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did either of you get the garlic bread on the side, by any chance?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5208\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5134\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I didn’t on this last trip, but I know exactly that of which you speak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5560\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5226\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was so funny, because we ordered that kind of accidentally at the very end. And when that came out, we went with a group of friends, and they just wolfed that thing down. [laughs] I mean, this might be the best dish here. So I didn’t know. I just thought, “Maybe we should have a little garlic bread with spaghetti, you know?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5576\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> To sop it up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5643\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And it was—people just loved it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5691\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5664\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread for you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5907\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5710\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread. I had the focaccia bread that came with my dish. So that piece of bread came in handy. Was able to sop it up and finish it all. I literally—there was nothing left on my plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5934\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5923\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"419\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"65\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, we had the lasagna also, but the dish that we also had on top of that—we had a lot of people—was the peppercorn steak and the pesto spaghetti that goes on the side. And what’s amazing about the steak—it’s very tender and grilled and everything—is they put peppercorns in the steak, which I think tenderizes it. I’d never had that before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"435\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s also a peppercorn au jus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"514\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"488\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, is that what it is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"530\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Got it, got it. And I wasn’t expecting that at a Spaghetti Shack, but it was really a nice dish. And we were really thrilled that we ordered that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"767\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"728\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you have anything to sip on?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"979\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"785\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I had this really interesting drink called Lupe Under the Sun, and it was served with a little orange, and it had an umbrella in it, and it was a spicy mango tequila. Really hit the spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"1002\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"995\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1077\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1023\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You would definitely be on the beach under the sun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1117\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1095\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> For sure, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1153\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1138\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1637\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1171\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They have two off-the-menu desserts. There are actually no desserts on the menu, but we saw two desserts go by us as we were sitting there. So we, you know, pulled off the waiter and said, “Hey, what are those?” And then they told us it’s this decadent, decadent brownie with two scoops of ice cream, and they have a peanut butter bar with two scoops of ice cream. So when he said, “Look, these are the only two desserts,” we said, “We’ll take them both.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1661\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1653\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1721\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1682\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I’m gonna call you my dessert guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1804\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1739\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I know. I’m your dessert guy. We went all out on the desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1874\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1825\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm. And you did not have dessert, did you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1910\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1893\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No, I did not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1975\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1931\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. You did not see the desserts go by?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"2000\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"1994\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2044\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2018\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They’re off-menu, so…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2065\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Think of the calories you saved yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2591\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2130\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, lots. Although I think I made up with it with the wine because I absolutely had wine with my dinner. And I actually made it for happy hour, which was nice. I went on a Tuesday. So what I didn’t realize was that on Tuesdays, kids eat free. And I just kept seeing all these little kids coming. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 19, episode 11, airs Thursday, November 21, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">First, our journey begins in San Jose at \u003cstrong>Cicero’s Pizza\u003c/strong>, a beloved local institution since 1968, offering thin-crust, crispy-edged pies loaded with fresh toppings. Next, guests visit \u003cstrong>Cafe Soleil\u003c/strong> in El Sobrante, a charming spot for comforting breakfast and lunch classics, from chicken fried steak to sweet cream pancakes. Then, it’s off to the Marshall’s scenic coast and \u003cstrong>Tony’s Seafood Restaurant\u003c/strong>, where diners enjoy fresh, sustainably sourced seafood with breathtaking views of Tomales Bay. Lastly, reporter Cecilia Phillips wraps up the episode with a tour of \u003cstrong>Hog Island Oyster Farm\u003c/strong>, where she dives into the world of oysters, exploring how these bivalves go from ocean to table.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23281\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23281\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests.png 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Charles Tsang, Laurel Valaris and Luis Ferguson from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://cicerospizza.com/\">\u003cstrong>Cicero’s Pizza\u003c/strong> (San Jose)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://cafe-soleil.com/the-cafe\">\u003cstrong>Cafe Soleil\u003c/strong> (El Sobrante)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://tonysseafoodrestaurant.com/\">\u003cstrong>Tony’s Seafood Restaurant\u003c/strong> (Marshall)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://hogislandoysters.com/hog-hq/farm-tours/\">\u003cstrong>Hog Island Oyster Farm\u003c/strong> (Marshall)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23327\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-800x974.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"974\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-800x974.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1020x1242.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-160x195.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-768x935.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1261x1536.jpg 1261w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1682x2048.jpg 1682w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1920x2338.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"x_MsoNormal\">\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"https://us.bolledrinks.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Bolle Rosé, Twice Fermented Non-Alcoholic Sparkling Wine\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>$30\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>With the surge of interest in nonalcoholic beverages, nonalcoholic beer leads the way with plenty that taste similar to their alcoholic counterparts. That’s followed closely by faux spirits used to make virgin versions of cocktails. I find nonalcoholic wine, however, lags behind both these categories in terms of options that taste like wine with alcohol. That is, until I sampled the new sparklers from Bolle. A Europe-based company founded by Italian Roberto Vanin, this pink fizz looks stylishly elegant and tastes delicious — making you want another glass, or three. Enticingly delicate red berry fruit aromas lead the way with this crisp, flavorful bubbly (clocking in at a mere 15 calories per serving). It’s an ideal option for savvy sippers of all sorts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"x_MsoNormal\">\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"http://thacherwinery.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Thacher 2022 Grenache, Homestead Hill Vineyard\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>\u003cspan class=\"contextualExtensionHighlight ms-font-color-themePrimary ms-border-color-themePrimary ident_1291_1337\" role=\"button\">Willow Creek District, Paso Robles, California\u003c/span> $65\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003c/b>One of my favorite red grapes is Grenache. It’s a unique variety responsible for the likes of hearty French Rhône reds and spicy Spanish stunners. In Paso Robles, California, however, it has found its American home. One Grenache that’s a shining star is a small-production version from Thacher Winery. This family-owned spot specializes in handcrafted, terroir-driven wines. Their Homestead Hill Vineyard Grenache is hand-harvested, hand-sorted, gently basket pressed, then aged in concrete tulips, and finally bottled unfiltered and unfined. Exploding with medium-bodied freshness and complexity, it showcases wild strawberry and maraschino cherry succulence, followed by a spicy kick and vibrant yet plush texture. A perfect partner for braised meats or fiery veggie chili.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"x_MsoNormal\">\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"https://montelena.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Chateau Montelena 2021 Cabernet Sauvignon\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>Napa Valley, California $85\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003c/b>When it comes to California classics, look no further than Chateau Montelena. I adore this winery, its story, its wines and its people. The historic winery, begun by Alfred Tubbs in the 1880s, is one of Napa Valley’s most beautiful properties to visit, with gorgeous grounds and a grand chateau. Nearly 100 years after its founding, it became even more famous when their 1973 Chardonnay bested French versions in the benchmark “Judgement of Paris” wine competition of 1976. They are, however, known for their Cabernet Sauvignon bottlings — and for good reason. The 2021 Cabernet is structured and age-worthy, but also ready to drink now with a few hours of decanting and alongside a sumptuous grilled steak. Sporting dark berry fruit notes layered with hints of toasty oak spiciness and a lush finish, this collectible wine is yet another reason to love Montelena.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> An old-school pizzeria in San Jose…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It was just such a heartwarming experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …a cozy brunch spot in El Sobrante…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> This dish defeated me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and fresh seafood by the Bay in Marshall…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It’s definitely ingrained in my soul.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Never seen anything like this before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …just ahead on “Check, Please! Bay Area.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Were you slurping?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We slurped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughs] \u003c/em>\u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to “Check, Please! Bay Area,” the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check ’em out to see what they think. Joining me at the “Check, Please!” table today are product marketing executive Charles Tsang, FDA inspector Luis Ferguson, and Deputy Director with the City of Oakland Laurel Valaris. Welcome, everyone. How are you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Doing great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Great. Thanks for having us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright. Charles is throwing it all the way back to 1968 with his nostalgic pick, a pizzeria that’s been serving up their signature crispy crust pies for more than five decades. Tucked away in West San Jose, it’s Cicero’s Pizza.\u003cem> [music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> When someone new comes into Cicero’s Pizza, I think the first vibe they’re gonna get is this is an old-fashioned pizzeria.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> Rhiannon, your pizza is ready. Rhiannon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> We’re not trying to be fancy, but we excel at what we do. So, Cicero’s Pizza’s recipe originally started in Niagara Falls, New York. There was a fellow named Pee-Wee—it was his mother’s recipe from Sicily. And eventually, when he moved from Niagara Falls to Cupertino, Nunzio Cicero bought one of the pizzerias. So he ran the place from 1968 to 2001. I worked for him going through college, and then carried on the legacy for the last 20 years at this location.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> You guys gonna eat here or take out? Our tagline is “The Pizza with the Secret.” Everyone asks me, “So, Rik, what’s the secret?” And as I tell them, “If I told you, it wouldn’t be a secret.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Scraping sound]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> Unlike any other place in the Bay Area that I know of, Cicero’s Pizza cooks the pizzas in a pan with oil, so it kind of fries the bottom, makes a nice, crispy crust, which you don’t find very often. A lot of people that start pizzerias are able to just get off-the-shelf—cans of tomato sauce. That’s not what we do at all. We make our own spice mixture. It has some sweetness to it, and it’s a very unique and great taste.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> The key is getting the cheese on. My favorite pizza is probably just a plain old cheese pizza. I like cheese. That’s how you can really tell whether a pizza is any good or not. Toppings can vary. The pizza itself—cheese—you’re always gonna know. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> It is a family business, very family-focused. We have photos on the wall of many of our customers. For example, we have Steve Wozniak, whose family has been coming here long before he started Apple Computer. But we have a lot of what we call Cicero’s babies. And they’re either customers who met here or their first date was here—they end up getting married and having children. We have a number of employees who’ve met here and have had children, so we got a lot of little Cicero’s babies out there. We have great history, and I’m glad about that. But the real reason people come here is ’cause they know they’re gonna get a great pizza—every single time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All: \u003c/strong>♪ Happy birthday to you ♪\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Charles, how old were you when you had your first bite of Cicero’s Pizza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> I was 16 years old. My friends and I, we all grew up in Cupertino, so it was like a local spot for us. After my first visit, I was hooked, and I’ve been going ever since.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And do you have a pie that you just love?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> So, I’m a big eater. There’s multiple pies—I usually get a couple for myself, and my wife will share a little bit of it. So I’m a big fan of the Belly Buster pizza. It comes with pepperoni, Italian sausage, salami, a ton of different vegetables, mushrooms, peppers. It usually comes with onions, but I’m not an onion guy, so I forgo that. It’s a delicious pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It was actually one of my favorite pizzas that we had there. And the Italian sausage isn’t chunks of Italian sausage—it’s more like chopped-up Italian sausage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s like a fine crumble.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Well, it was one of the four pies, actually, that we had, so…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> We’ll be here a long time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Yeah. \u003cem>[Chuckles]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We ate a lot, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> So, we went with four people. So we each kind of like got our own thing. We also had the Baker’s Pride, which was like your typical supreme pizza—your vegetables, and I believe it had a different type of sausage than was on the Belly Buster, which was cool because we got to try both of the sausages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, veggies—you had, like, mushrooms, bell pepper, onions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly. Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Blue-cheese salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And it was a really classic pizza place. Like, there’s no appetizers except for two massive salads—one house, one Caesar—and we tried both, which was perfect because they’re like $5…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> …for this big, heaping plate of salad, which justified the pizza for us. And it’s exactly what you would imagine your local pizza place’s salad to look like—like, big hunks of lettuce, one or two vegetables, and those little square croutons from your childhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> But it was really yummy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Nice. My other favorite pizza that I get there is the All Meat Combo. It’s delicious. It’s hearty. It’s got a ton of different meats on it—pepperoni, salami, Italian sausage, ham. But they don’t overdo it with the composition of meat. It’s really, really well-balanced. It’s super, super savory, super delicious. And the thing that really elevates the pizza overall—and this goes for all the pizzas, not just the meat lover’s pizza—is the crispy crust. It is like one of a kind. I’ve never had a thin-crust pizza quite like that before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I was even, like, trying to think of, like, New York-style pizza. I mean, I know it’s like a New York-style pizza spot, but the crust is completely different than any New York-style pizza that I’ve had before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. It’s not foldable, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Unh-unh. No, it’s—and it’s good, too. I actually really enjoyed the crust. I usually leave the crust behind, but this one, I ate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> This one you ate the crust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I ate the crust. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> So, we took a page out of your book. We had five small pizzas. So, we all got to try a little, and we had Hawaiian, which was really good, like unexpectedly a favorite of ours. Really thin ham.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And the owner actually talked to us a little bit about the sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> That’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And they make it all there, and they always have. She told us all of the ingredients except for one, which is a secret. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> And the sauce was really, really good, really tangy, and on top of that cracker crust, it made for a really great pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, we also got the Spicy Vegetarian, which surprisingly enough, I actually liked more of any of the pizza that we had there. The fresh tomatoes that were on there, the jalapeños that were roasted, the onions. It just all complemented themselves. And then my sister-in-law actually got a pepperoni and jalapeño pizza. She custom-made it. And even though she got the medium of that one, but we got the smalls of the other three, we literally almost finished everything. That’s really what made it—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> When they said spicy on that spicy vegetarian, they meant it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s really spicy. I even took off the jalapeños, just to kind of get the essence of it. And it was really spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, be aware.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Be aware.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah? Do you drink anything there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> We got a pitcher of Modelos, which I feel like goes hand in hand with pizza. Yeah, the beer, they got a nice local beer selection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Yeah. It felt like a really nostalgic place. Like, we all have our hometown pizza place, and this felt like the kind of place that if you were from that area of San Jose, you would, like, go off to college and come back and have to have Cicero’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It’d be on your list, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Totally. So, it felt like it was a special place for a lot of families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> You’ve described me, like, right there. Like, to this day, every birthday, my wife will be like, “What do you want for your birthday?” I’m like, “Can we just go to Cicero’s?” That’s all I want.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> That was the vibe, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> That’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It is. And the service was exceptional. I mean, it was fast service, but even above that, the owners were so happy to see me and my young family there. I actually brought my five-day-old to the restaurant along with my two toddlers. And some folks may, like, shy away from that much kid activity in a busy spot. But the owner actually was so pumped that my baby—it was their first restaurant experience at Cicero’s—that she brought out a little red onesie that said Cicero’s Pizza and two T-shirts for my two little boys. And it was just overall such a heartwarming experience for us that I wouldn’t normally drive down to San Jose just for pizza, but I totally would, just based on that experience alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, well, if you would like to try Cicero’s Pizza, it’s located on Bollinger Road in San Jose, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $20.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> As a mom to three little ones, Laurel is a huge fan of classic diners where the menu, service, and vibe is all-around family friendly. Luckily, her neighborhood hangout checks all those boxes. Located in El Sobrante, it’s Cafe Soleil. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Server:\u003c/strong> Chicken fried steak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Cafe Soleil means to me sun, light, love, community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> A lot of people that walk in the door are kind of amazed, because it looks like a little hidden place. And they come in, and it’s such a nice big open spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> There’s just something about starting someone’s day with a good breakfast. Cafe Soleil has been here since 1997. At 18, I had the opportunity to open my own small café. I was the cook, the waitress, the dishwasher, the prepper, the busser, and Todd was one of my customers. He used to order French toast, bacon, and over-medium eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I was always going around and trying to find the best breakfasts everywhere I could go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> And he was like, “I’ve always wanted a little café.” And I’m like, “Great, I’m going to teach you to cook.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> We serve steaks, burgers and fries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> Salads, homemade soups, and we even have a vegan menu. I love the vegan avocado toast—fresh-shaved radish, arugula, fresh jalapeños, fresh cherry tomatoes. It’s just garden fresh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> Our portion sizes are actually very large. Our customers, when they leave here are very satisfied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I hope they just feel full and happy and content and energized, but not so much where they’re like, “I need to go sleep.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Server:\u003c/strong> Alright, you guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I would say 99% of every employee that we hired in 1998 still works for us, to this day. We all grew up together, and we all built this business. They are so intertwined with these customers. It’s amazing. It’s family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Laurel, obviously you need a family-friendly spot, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And this one is your favorite.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It is my favorite. Not only is it super kid-friendly, but also the food is really, really good. I feel like it’s hard to find a neighborhood diner where everything is consistent, and for me, Cafe Soleil is that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, what do you get when you go in?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> One of the things I really like to share with my family is the Workers Special. It’s biscuits and gravy with a little bit of spice to it. It has kind of a smoky taste, and then you can get a meat side or egg side, anything of your choosing—over-easy, sausage, bacon. And so, that’s something that we all usually share. And then this time around, my husband got the Chicken Fried Steak. And it was a very thin-sliced piece of steak, really crispy. And the eggs over-easy serving as, like, an additional sauce was a real win. So, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I actually got the same thing, and I didn’t even have to cut it with a knife, actually.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, really? Cut it with a fork?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Cut it with my fork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, that’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah. Super juicy, super tender. It wasn’t dry at all. Sometimes you go to places with chicken fried steak, and it might be a little dry. Definitely not the case here. My wife, she was blown away by this restaurant. She actually literally said it was the best breakfast place that she’s been to in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> And she is kind of like a breakfast potato connoisseur. And she loved the home fries. They had this nice, thin, crispy layer, perfectly seasoned. She loved it. The Workers Special, like you said, was great. And I know I mentioned earlier, I’m a big eater. No, this dish defeated me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> I was defeated after this dish. But it was great, and the biscuits were very, very fluffy. It was amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We also got a side with the pancakes. Sweet Cream Pancakes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, Sweet Cream Pancakes. Yeah, they were super good, actually. That was, like, one of the highlights for my breakfast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Didn’t it taste just like the sweet cream you would put in your coffee?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly. And, like, even with syrup over the pancakes, the Sweet Cream Pancake itself shined through no matter how much syrup you drenched on it or dipped onto it, which was really nice, was refreshing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Were they big pancakes?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> They were plate-sized. We only actually got one because of everything that we got. I mean, I wish I would have gotten more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, this is also a lunch spot, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> So, my standard order is usually the Cobb Salad. I wouldn’t normally send someone to a restaurant specifically for a salad, but this is, like, a big, epic meal salad. But then it has really hearty elements like chicken. It has bacon, it has boiled egg, it has a really beautiful house-made blue cheese, and together it makes for at least two meals for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We also had the Green Chili & Jack Burger, which is a really beautiful charbroiled burger, and it has this thick piece of Jack cheese on it with grilled Ortega chili. And that Ortega chili really adds some heat to the dish, and it makes it super yummy. You can get all kinds of sides there, too. We like the sweet potato fries. We like the regular fries. They have potato salad. But I really like that, like a diner, there’s a lot of options.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> We did get a burger. We got the Mike’s Burger. It’s got the pepper Jack cheese and the jalapeños on it. Juicy burger, bun was great. The ratio of just, like, burger to vegetables to everything kind of played off of each other. And then you obviously got a side with it. We went with the chili. Probably would have opted for something different than the chili, maybe a salad. But overall, like, the burger was actually really, really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It was good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what did you get to drink?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We had mimosas, and they were really yummy. They were the exact color that I like them. Barely orange.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Almost an eyedropper of orange juice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Mostly champagne, but they have a wide variety of different drinks there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And in terms of value, you said the size is —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> 100% great value. The price to portion, and quantity and quality of food ratio is outstanding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I would go back, especially for the pancakes. For the pancakes and the burger, I would stop by again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. If you would like to try Cafe Soleil, it’s located on San Pablo Dam Road in El Sobrante, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $25.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s a bit of a journey for Luis to get to his favorite seafood spot, but he says that’s all part of the fun. And once he’s there, it’s no holds barred as he slurps down fresh oysters by the dozens. Luckily, there’s always plenty more where those come from, in the Tomales Bay town of Marshall, which is home to Tony’s Seafood Restaurant. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> Tony’s Seafood is a restaurant started in 1948. It was started by a Croatian fishing family. We first started at Hog Island in 1983, and they were one of our first customers for oysters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Alright.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> We all started talking a few years ago that if they ever decided to get out of the business, to let us know, and they did. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> I mean, Tony’s was always just this classic West Coast seafood house, you know, where the views were incredible, the beer was cold, you got fresh, local seafood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Oh, man. Check those out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #2:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> There are not many places like this anywhere. We feel just so honored to be able to carry on the tradition. We feature a lot of local halibut, a lot of local rockfish, a lot of crab out of Bodega.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> I think that one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> Of course, we have oysters and clams on the menu. But it’s really about those classics, like the fish and chips, clams and pasta. The sort of comfort seafood definitely is a big part of it. So, Marshall is a really unique place. This might feel super far away, but it’s really not that far. It’s an easy drive out here. I mean, we have incredible sunsets out the windows here, and I think it’s a really special place because of that. I mean, I love this. I love growing food in the bay. I’ve got saltwater in my veins. This has always been something that’s near and dear to me. And then to see people enjoy the food that you’ve grown is just a tremendous opportunity and tremendous honor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Luis, there are so many seafood spots in the Bay Area. How did this become your favorite?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> To be honest, I don’t even know where I found out about this spot, but we’ve been going there for, I want to say, five years now, at least. Of course, it’s kind of a journey. It’s kind of a trek, but once you finally get there, you’re just relaxed. It’s just a part of the vibe, getting the beer, getting the fresh oysters, being on the coast, like, the sun in your face.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s just the atmosphere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The vibe. Now, is it true that you eat dozens—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Dozens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …of oysters? Dozens?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Dozens. We literally will. We know—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Is that like 24 or 36?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we get the beer and the champagne, it’s like, bring us a dozen. When they bring this dozen, they come and check on the beer and champagne. We’re ordering another dozen, you know what I mean? They just keep coming and coming. It’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. And is there a particular type of oyster you like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> So, the smaller, the better, in my opinion. But the Kumamotos are honestly our favorite. They’re from Humboldt. They’re local. The brininess, the saltiness. You add a little bit of lemon on top with Crystal’s or Tabasco, whatever hot sauce is to your liking. They’re just really are amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Just take your time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Just take your time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Take your time slurping. So, were you slurping when you went there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We slurped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay. Alright.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Definitely. We got a dozen just for ourselves. They’re fresh, tasty, delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> And I like the Sweetwater one in particular.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And I totally agree, when it comes to oysters, the smaller, the better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And the batch of dozen that we got, we just got tiny, beautiful, flavorful oysters. We ordered the 12 that they basically chose for us, and it did not disappoint.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> But we started with the Route One bread starter, which is half of a loaf of bread covered in black sesame seeds, and it almost had a bagel-like quality, and I wouldn’t have expected to enjoy bread that much. I really came for the oysters, but it was really good, and it came with this big honking piece of butter that was gone instantly. We had to ask for more, but it was sweet, and it was a really great addition to the rest of the meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you get anything else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We got a lot. We got a lot. We ordered the grilled oysters. My wife and I loved. We got two of the garlic butter one and two of the miso butter one, and they were delicious, super savory. It was just novel, like a little bit of a Japanese twist to it. I got the Fish Tacos for myself. Very, very fresh and tasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> They do have a seasonal rotating menu. Which tacos did you get?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> It came with rockfish, a little bit of cabbage, chipotle aioli. My wife got the mussels, and the thing that she was pleasantly surprised by is it had a little bit of chorizo in the mussels, which she liked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> And then a pro tip that I definitely personally recommend, especially for the mussels and the fries, you got to use the mussel as a spoon to get the broth and then slurp it up. It just makes it a part of the experience. It’s really what makes it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, pro tip. We got it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you get something else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We did. We ordered several other things, but the standout for me was the Fish & Chips. It was a really light fry, and they had this beautiful white rockfish, super flaky. My husband is an expert fisherman, worked on a boat for many years. And so, I’m always kind of nervous when we eat the fish. Is it up to par? And he loved it, I loved it. A beautiful house-made tartar sauce. I would totally order that again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We also ordered the clam chowder. We loved it. The clams still have the shell on, so they were really, really fresh, and the aromatic vegetables that were added in there, great composition. There was a little bit of potato, celery, carrot, and even a little bit of bacon. The one thing to keep in mind is I’m not quite as used to having clam chowder that’s not, like, New England style and chunky. The one they have here at Tony’s is a little bit more soupy and liquidy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We had an It’s-It. It’s their only dessert item, which for a Bay Area restaurant, I respect that, the Bay Area treat, and that was really nice to have at the end of a big meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Yeah, when we went, they actually also had a second dessert option, which was a pie, but unfortunately, they ran out, and I was like, “Oh, my God, I really, really want to try that.” So, the next time we stop by, hopefully they’ll still have it on the menu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Value-wise, is it worth it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It was worth it for me. But I would say next time, I would definitely consolidate my pennies on just the oysters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> There you go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> The oysters themselves were so outstanding. I would do what Luis did and maybe order five dozen of them, as opposed to just the one, and spreading it out over the menu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I can honestly recall, like, in the first times that we had gone there, we had went there literally for two months straight every weekend, just because of the oysters. We tried everything we possibly can. The specials are always changing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It sounds like it’s part of your life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, I mean, it’s definitely ingrained in my soul now, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> I would make a day of it. It was a great drive. It was a great experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try Tony’s Seafood Restaurant, it’s located on Shoreline Highway in Marshall, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $75.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And now, reporter Cecilia Phillips hits the Marin County coast for a little oyster shucking 101. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> So, we’re here up north in this beautiful bay with the water behind us and a ton of oysters around. What are some of the things that you love to educate people on about oysters?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Tomales Bay is a fascinating place, both historically and environmentally. It’s one of the only bays left in California that is clean enough to grow food-grade oysters. We actually harvest about 3, 3.5 million oysters a year. So, the whole Hog Farm experience is a special tour that we created to give the super fan a little extra look. We look at both the natural history and the aquaculture processes. This tank is called a nursery tank, and this is where we keep baby oysters. Check them out. About two millimeters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Oh, my gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Right? And so, it takes us about a year and a half to get that lovely raw bar-sized oyster. So, this is our stock in trade. This is a Hog Island sweetwater. It’s a Japanese or Miyagi variety. This is its close cousin, the Kumamoto, also from Japan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Well, this one is just so interesting to me because I’ve never seen this before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> This is the European flat oyster. This is what the Romans were eating. It’s one of the rarest oysters you’ll see in North America. And then these are the wild natives of the West Coast. Even though they’re different species from different parts of the world, we grow all these right here in Tomales Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Okay, so, let’s taste some oysters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Let’s go shuck some oysters and see what you’re made of.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I’m ready. I’m ready to show you. Let’s go. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Cecilia, I’ve got a dozen oysters here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Are you ready?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Alright, my goal is to start here with the hinge and begin here. Okay, so here we go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Did you go to med school?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[laughs]\u003c/em> Oh, I got some shell. Aw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Here’s a little pro tip, Cecilia. I like to think of it as the Tomales Bay three-step. Right? So, when you put the knife in the hinge and apply pressure, just use a side-to-side motion. And that’ll keep you from breaking up the shell. I like to let the knife do the work for me. Do you notice you broke a sweat?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> I was struggling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> You were struggling. So, if I just twist the knife, that action of the blade standing up will lift that shell. Now I’m going to slide the knife under the top shell. This is the second step. And free that top shell from the adductor muscle. Third thing is to separate the adductor muscle from the bottom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> And so, it’s easier to come up the side here and kind of release it versus digging straight in?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> That’s right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Alright. So, I’m up underneath and then… oh, my gosh, that was so much easier.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Well done. See?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> So, after someone comes and does a full, whole-hog tour experience, you get to eat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> That’s right.\u003cem> [music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Is slurping permitted?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Of course.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Mmm. Did you have as much fun with me today as I had with you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> I had more fun, Cecilia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Aw, shucks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> Oh, my…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong>\u003cem> [laughs]\u003c/em> I did it. I had to do it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gary Fleener:\u003c/strong> You got to do it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I have to thank my great guests on this week’s show — Charles Tsang, who busts his belly with the crispy pies at Cicero’s Pizza in San Jose; Luis Ferguson, who zips up to Marin every chance he gets to Tony’s Seafood Restaurant in Marshall; and Laurel Valaris, who’s crazy for the Cobb Salad at Cafe Soleil in El Sobrante. So, join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers, everyone. Cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Cheers. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[high-pitched voice]\u003c/em> We’re here at Hog Island… \u003cem>[laughs]\u003c/em> Is there a best way to eat oysters?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Raw.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah. Raw with a lot of Hogwash is the best.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> Raw with horseradish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #3:\u003c/strong> I like them grilled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #4:\u003c/strong> I’ve tried it in an oyster pot pie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #5:\u003c/strong> I’m going to say raw, but a close second is the barbecue here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #7:\u003c/strong> You know what? 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 19, episode 11, airs Thursday, November 21, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">First, our journey begins in San Jose at \u003cstrong>Cicero’s Pizza\u003c/strong>, a beloved local institution since 1968, offering thin-crust, crispy-edged pies loaded with fresh toppings. Next, guests visit \u003cstrong>Cafe Soleil\u003c/strong> in El Sobrante, a charming spot for comforting breakfast and lunch classics, from chicken fried steak to sweet cream pancakes. Then, it’s off to the Marshall’s scenic coast and \u003cstrong>Tony’s Seafood Restaurant\u003c/strong>, where diners enjoy fresh, sustainably sourced seafood with breathtaking views of Tomales Bay. Lastly, reporter Cecilia Phillips wraps up the episode with a tour of \u003cstrong>Hog Island Oyster Farm\u003c/strong>, where she dives into the world of oysters, exploring how these bivalves go from ocean to table.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23281\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23281\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1911_Guests.png 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Charles Tsang, Laurel Valaris and Luis Ferguson from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://cicerospizza.com/\">\u003cstrong>Cicero’s Pizza\u003c/strong> (San Jose)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://cafe-soleil.com/the-cafe\">\u003cstrong>Cafe Soleil\u003c/strong> (El Sobrante)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://tonysseafoodrestaurant.com/\">\u003cstrong>Tony’s Seafood Restaurant\u003c/strong> (Marshall)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://hogislandoysters.com/hog-hq/farm-tours/\">\u003cstrong>Hog Island Oyster Farm\u003c/strong> (Marshall)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23327\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-800x974.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"974\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-800x974.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1020x1242.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-160x195.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-768x935.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1261x1536.jpg 1261w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1682x2048.jpg 1682w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1911_Wines-1920x2338.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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Enticingly delicate red berry fruit aromas lead the way with this crisp, flavorful bubbly (clocking in at a mere 15 calories per serving). It’s an ideal option for savvy sippers of all sorts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"x_MsoNormal\">\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"http://thacherwinery.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Thacher 2022 Grenache, Homestead Hill Vineyard\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>\u003cspan class=\"contextualExtensionHighlight ms-font-color-themePrimary ms-border-color-themePrimary ident_1291_1337\" role=\"button\">Willow Creek District, Paso Robles, California\u003c/span> $65\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003c/b>One of my favorite red grapes is Grenache. It’s a unique variety responsible for the likes of hearty French Rhône reds and spicy Spanish stunners. In Paso Robles, California, however, it has found its American home. One Grenache that’s a shining star is a small-production version from Thacher Winery. This family-owned spot specializes in handcrafted, terroir-driven wines. Their Homestead Hill Vineyard Grenache is hand-harvested, hand-sorted, gently basket pressed, then aged in concrete tulips, and finally bottled unfiltered and unfined. Exploding with medium-bodied freshness and complexity, it showcases wild strawberry and maraschino cherry succulence, followed by a spicy kick and vibrant yet plush texture. A perfect partner for braised meats or fiery veggie chili.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp class=\"x_MsoNormal\">\u003cb>\u003ca href=\"https://montelena.com\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966\">Chateau Montelena 2021 Cabernet Sauvignon\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003c/b>\u003cem>Napa Valley, California $85\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003cb>\u003c/b>When it comes to California classics, look no further than Chateau Montelena. I adore this winery, its story, its wines and its people. The historic winery, begun by Alfred Tubbs in the 1880s, is one of Napa Valley’s most beautiful properties to visit, with gorgeous grounds and a grand chateau. Nearly 100 years after its founding, it became even more famous when their 1973 Chardonnay bested French versions in the benchmark “Judgement of Paris” wine competition of 1976. They are, however, known for their Cabernet Sauvignon bottlings — and for good reason. The 2021 Cabernet is structured and age-worthy, but also ready to drink now with a few hours of decanting and alongside a sumptuous grilled steak. Sporting dark berry fruit notes layered with hints of toasty oak spiciness and a lush finish, this collectible wine is yet another reason to love Montelena.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> An old-school pizzeria in San Jose…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It was just such a heartwarming experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …a cozy brunch spot in El Sobrante…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> This dish defeated me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and fresh seafood by the Bay in Marshall…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It’s definitely ingrained in my soul.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/strong> Never seen anything like this before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …just ahead on “Check, Please! Bay Area.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Were you slurping?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We slurped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughs] \u003c/em>\u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to “Check, Please! Bay Area,” the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check ’em out to see what they think. Joining me at the “Check, Please!” table today are product marketing executive Charles Tsang, FDA inspector Luis Ferguson, and Deputy Director with the City of Oakland Laurel Valaris. Welcome, everyone. How are you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Doing great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Great. Thanks for having us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright. Charles is throwing it all the way back to 1968 with his nostalgic pick, a pizzeria that’s been serving up their signature crispy crust pies for more than five decades. Tucked away in West San Jose, it’s Cicero’s Pizza.\u003cem> [music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> When someone new comes into Cicero’s Pizza, I think the first vibe they’re gonna get is this is an old-fashioned pizzeria.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> Rhiannon, your pizza is ready. Rhiannon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> We’re not trying to be fancy, but we excel at what we do. So, Cicero’s Pizza’s recipe originally started in Niagara Falls, New York. There was a fellow named Pee-Wee—it was his mother’s recipe from Sicily. And eventually, when he moved from Niagara Falls to Cupertino, Nunzio Cicero bought one of the pizzerias. So he ran the place from 1968 to 2001. I worked for him going through college, and then carried on the legacy for the last 20 years at this location.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> You guys gonna eat here or take out? Our tagline is “The Pizza with the Secret.” Everyone asks me, “So, Rik, what’s the secret?” And as I tell them, “If I told you, it wouldn’t be a secret.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Scraping sound]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> Unlike any other place in the Bay Area that I know of, Cicero’s Pizza cooks the pizzas in a pan with oil, so it kind of fries the bottom, makes a nice, crispy crust, which you don’t find very often. A lot of people that start pizzerias are able to just get off-the-shelf—cans of tomato sauce. That’s not what we do at all. We make our own spice mixture. It has some sweetness to it, and it’s a very unique and great taste.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> The key is getting the cheese on. My favorite pizza is probably just a plain old cheese pizza. I like cheese. That’s how you can really tell whether a pizza is any good or not. Toppings can vary. The pizza itself—cheese—you’re always gonna know. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rik Jones:\u003c/strong> It is a family business, very family-focused. We have photos on the wall of many of our customers. For example, we have Steve Wozniak, whose family has been coming here long before he started Apple Computer. But we have a lot of what we call Cicero’s babies. And they’re either customers who met here or their first date was here—they end up getting married and having children. We have a number of employees who’ve met here and have had children, so we got a lot of little Cicero’s babies out there. We have great history, and I’m glad about that. But the real reason people come here is ’cause they know they’re gonna get a great pizza—every single time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All: \u003c/strong>♪ Happy birthday to you ♪\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, Charles, how old were you when you had your first bite of Cicero’s Pizza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> I was 16 years old. My friends and I, we all grew up in Cupertino, so it was like a local spot for us. After my first visit, I was hooked, and I’ve been going ever since.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And do you have a pie that you just love?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> So, I’m a big eater. There’s multiple pies—I usually get a couple for myself, and my wife will share a little bit of it. So I’m a big fan of the Belly Buster pizza. It comes with pepperoni, Italian sausage, salami, a ton of different vegetables, mushrooms, peppers. It usually comes with onions, but I’m not an onion guy, so I forgo that. It’s a delicious pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It was actually one of my favorite pizzas that we had there. And the Italian sausage isn’t chunks of Italian sausage—it’s more like chopped-up Italian sausage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s like a fine crumble.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Well, it was one of the four pies, actually, that we had, so…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> We’ll be here a long time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Yeah. \u003cem>[Chuckles]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We ate a lot, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> So, we went with four people. So we each kind of like got our own thing. We also had the Baker’s Pride, which was like your typical supreme pizza—your vegetables, and I believe it had a different type of sausage than was on the Belly Buster, which was cool because we got to try both of the sausages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, veggies—you had, like, mushrooms, bell pepper, onions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly. Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Blue-cheese salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And it was a really classic pizza place. Like, there’s no appetizers except for two massive salads—one house, one Caesar—and we tried both, which was perfect because they’re like $5…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> …for this big, heaping plate of salad, which justified the pizza for us. And it’s exactly what you would imagine your local pizza place’s salad to look like—like, big hunks of lettuce, one or two vegetables, and those little square croutons from your childhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> But it was really yummy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Nice. My other favorite pizza that I get there is the All Meat Combo. It’s delicious. It’s hearty. It’s got a ton of different meats on it—pepperoni, salami, Italian sausage, ham. But they don’t overdo it with the composition of meat. It’s really, really well-balanced. It’s super, super savory, super delicious. And the thing that really elevates the pizza overall—and this goes for all the pizzas, not just the meat lover’s pizza—is the crispy crust. It is like one of a kind. I’ve never had a thin-crust pizza quite like that before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I was even, like, trying to think of, like, New York-style pizza. I mean, I know it’s like a New York-style pizza spot, but the crust is completely different than any New York-style pizza that I’ve had before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. It’s not foldable, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Unh-unh. No, it’s—and it’s good, too. I actually really enjoyed the crust. I usually leave the crust behind, but this one, I ate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> This one you ate the crust.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I ate the crust. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> So, we took a page out of your book. We had five small pizzas. So, we all got to try a little, and we had Hawaiian, which was really good, like unexpectedly a favorite of ours. Really thin ham.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And the owner actually talked to us a little bit about the sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> That’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And they make it all there, and they always have. She told us all of the ingredients except for one, which is a secret. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> And the sauce was really, really good, really tangy, and on top of that cracker crust, it made for a really great pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, we also got the Spicy Vegetarian, which surprisingly enough, I actually liked more of any of the pizza that we had there. The fresh tomatoes that were on there, the jalapeños that were roasted, the onions. It just all complemented themselves. And then my sister-in-law actually got a pepperoni and jalapeño pizza. She custom-made it. And even though she got the medium of that one, but we got the smalls of the other three, we literally almost finished everything. That’s really what made it—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> When they said spicy on that spicy vegetarian, they meant it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It’s really spicy. I even took off the jalapeños, just to kind of get the essence of it. And it was really spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, be aware.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Be aware.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah? Do you drink anything there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> We got a pitcher of Modelos, which I feel like goes hand in hand with pizza. Yeah, the beer, they got a nice local beer selection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Yeah. It felt like a really nostalgic place. Like, we all have our hometown pizza place, and this felt like the kind of place that if you were from that area of San Jose, you would, like, go off to college and come back and have to have Cicero’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> It’d be on your list, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Totally. So, it felt like it was a special place for a lot of families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> You’ve described me, like, right there. Like, to this day, every birthday, my wife will be like, “What do you want for your birthday?” I’m like, “Can we just go to Cicero’s?” That’s all I want.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> That was the vibe, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> That’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It is. And the service was exceptional. I mean, it was fast service, but even above that, the owners were so happy to see me and my young family there. I actually brought my five-day-old to the restaurant along with my two toddlers. And some folks may, like, shy away from that much kid activity in a busy spot. But the owner actually was so pumped that my baby—it was their first restaurant experience at Cicero’s—that she brought out a little red onesie that said Cicero’s Pizza and two T-shirts for my two little boys. And it was just overall such a heartwarming experience for us that I wouldn’t normally drive down to San Jose just for pizza, but I totally would, just based on that experience alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Alright, well, if you would like to try Cicero’s Pizza, it’s located on Bollinger Road in San Jose, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $20.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> As a mom to three little ones, Laurel is a huge fan of classic diners where the menu, service, and vibe is all-around family friendly. Luckily, her neighborhood hangout checks all those boxes. Located in El Sobrante, it’s Cafe Soleil. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Server:\u003c/strong> Chicken fried steak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Cafe Soleil means to me sun, light, love, community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> A lot of people that walk in the door are kind of amazed, because it looks like a little hidden place. And they come in, and it’s such a nice big open spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> There’s just something about starting someone’s day with a good breakfast. Cafe Soleil has been here since 1997. At 18, I had the opportunity to open my own small café. I was the cook, the waitress, the dishwasher, the prepper, the busser, and Todd was one of my customers. He used to order French toast, bacon, and over-medium eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I was always going around and trying to find the best breakfasts everywhere I could go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> And he was like, “I’ve always wanted a little café.” And I’m like, “Great, I’m going to teach you to cook.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> We serve steaks, burgers and fries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> Salads, homemade soups, and we even have a vegan menu. I love the vegan avocado toast—fresh-shaved radish, arugula, fresh jalapeños, fresh cherry tomatoes. It’s just garden fresh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Todd Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> Our portion sizes are actually very large. Our customers, when they leave here are very satisfied.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I hope they just feel full and happy and content and energized, but not so much where they’re like, “I need to go sleep.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Server:\u003c/strong> Alright, you guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Arrouzet:\u003c/strong> I would say 99% of every employee that we hired in 1998 still works for us, to this day. We all grew up together, and we all built this business. They are so intertwined with these customers. It’s amazing. It’s family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Laurel, obviously you need a family-friendly spot, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And this one is your favorite.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It is my favorite. Not only is it super kid-friendly, but also the food is really, really good. I feel like it’s hard to find a neighborhood diner where everything is consistent, and for me, Cafe Soleil is that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, what do you get when you go in?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> One of the things I really like to share with my family is the Workers Special. It’s biscuits and gravy with a little bit of spice to it. It has kind of a smoky taste, and then you can get a meat side or egg side, anything of your choosing—over-easy, sausage, bacon. And so, that’s something that we all usually share. And then this time around, my husband got the Chicken Fried Steak. And it was a very thin-sliced piece of steak, really crispy. And the eggs over-easy serving as, like, an additional sauce was a real win. So, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I actually got the same thing, and I didn’t even have to cut it with a knife, actually.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, really? Cut it with a fork?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Cut it with my fork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, that’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah. Super juicy, super tender. It wasn’t dry at all. Sometimes you go to places with chicken fried steak, and it might be a little dry. Definitely not the case here. My wife, she was blown away by this restaurant. She actually literally said it was the best breakfast place that she’s been to in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> And she is kind of like a breakfast potato connoisseur. And she loved the home fries. They had this nice, thin, crispy layer, perfectly seasoned. She loved it. The Workers Special, like you said, was great. And I know I mentioned earlier, I’m a big eater. No, this dish defeated me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>All:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> I was defeated after this dish. But it was great, and the biscuits were very, very fluffy. It was amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We also got a side with the pancakes. Sweet Cream Pancakes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, Sweet Cream Pancakes. Yeah, they were super good, actually. That was, like, one of the highlights for my breakfast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Didn’t it taste just like the sweet cream you would put in your coffee?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly. And, like, even with syrup over the pancakes, the Sweet Cream Pancake itself shined through no matter how much syrup you drenched on it or dipped onto it, which was really nice, was refreshing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Were they big pancakes?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> They were plate-sized. We only actually got one because of everything that we got. I mean, I wish I would have gotten more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, this is also a lunch spot, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> So, my standard order is usually the Cobb Salad. I wouldn’t normally send someone to a restaurant specifically for a salad, but this is, like, a big, epic meal salad. But then it has really hearty elements like chicken. It has bacon, it has boiled egg, it has a really beautiful house-made blue cheese, and together it makes for at least two meals for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We also had the Green Chili & Jack Burger, which is a really beautiful charbroiled burger, and it has this thick piece of Jack cheese on it with grilled Ortega chili. And that Ortega chili really adds some heat to the dish, and it makes it super yummy. You can get all kinds of sides there, too. We like the sweet potato fries. We like the regular fries. They have potato salad. But I really like that, like a diner, there’s a lot of options.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> We did get a burger. We got the Mike’s Burger. It’s got the pepper Jack cheese and the jalapeños on it. Juicy burger, bun was great. The ratio of just, like, burger to vegetables to everything kind of played off of each other. And then you obviously got a side with it. We went with the chili. Probably would have opted for something different than the chili, maybe a salad. But overall, like, the burger was actually really, really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> It was good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what did you get to drink?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We had mimosas, and they were really yummy. They were the exact color that I like them. Barely orange.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Almost an eyedropper of orange juice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> Mostly champagne, but they have a wide variety of different drinks there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And in terms of value, you said the size is —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> 100% great value. The price to portion, and quantity and quality of food ratio is outstanding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> I would go back, especially for the pancakes. For the pancakes and the burger, I would stop by again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. If you would like to try Cafe Soleil, it’s located on San Pablo Dam Road in El Sobrante, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $25.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s a bit of a journey for Luis to get to his favorite seafood spot, but he says that’s all part of the fun. And once he’s there, it’s no holds barred as he slurps down fresh oysters by the dozens. Luckily, there’s always plenty more where those come from, in the Tomales Bay town of Marshall, which is home to Tony’s Seafood Restaurant. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> Tony’s Seafood is a restaurant started in 1948. It was started by a Croatian fishing family. We first started at Hog Island in 1983, and they were one of our first customers for oysters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Alright.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> We all started talking a few years ago that if they ever decided to get out of the business, to let us know, and they did. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> I mean, Tony’s was always just this classic West Coast seafood house, you know, where the views were incredible, the beer was cold, you got fresh, local seafood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Oh, man. Check those out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man #2:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> There are not many places like this anywhere. We feel just so honored to be able to carry on the tradition. We feature a lot of local halibut, a lot of local rockfish, a lot of crab out of Bodega.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> I think that one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>John Finger:\u003c/strong> Of course, we have oysters and clams on the menu. But it’s really about those classics, like the fish and chips, clams and pasta. The sort of comfort seafood definitely is a big part of it. So, Marshall is a really unique place. This might feel super far away, but it’s really not that far. It’s an easy drive out here. I mean, we have incredible sunsets out the windows here, and I think it’s a really special place because of that. I mean, I love this. I love growing food in the bay. I’ve got saltwater in my veins. This has always been something that’s near and dear to me. And then to see people enjoy the food that you’ve grown is just a tremendous opportunity and tremendous honor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Luis, there are so many seafood spots in the Bay Area. How did this become your favorite?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> To be honest, I don’t even know where I found out about this spot, but we’ve been going there for, I want to say, five years now, at least. Of course, it’s kind of a journey. It’s kind of a trek, but once you finally get there, you’re just relaxed. It’s just a part of the vibe, getting the beer, getting the fresh oysters, being on the coast, like, the sun in your face.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s just the atmosphere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The vibe. Now, is it true that you eat dozens—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Dozens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …of oysters? Dozens?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Dozens. We literally will. We know—\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Is that like 24 or 36?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we get the beer and the champagne, it’s like, bring us a dozen. When they bring this dozen, they come and check on the beer and champagne. We’re ordering another dozen, you know what I mean? They just keep coming and coming. It’s awesome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. And is there a particular type of oyster you like?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> So, the smaller, the better, in my opinion. But the Kumamotos are honestly our favorite. They’re from Humboldt. They’re local. The brininess, the saltiness. You add a little bit of lemon on top with Crystal’s or Tabasco, whatever hot sauce is to your liking. They’re just really are amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Just take your time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Just take your time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Take your time slurping. So, were you slurping when you went there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We slurped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay. Alright.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> Definitely. We got a dozen just for ourselves. They’re fresh, tasty, delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> And I like the Sweetwater one in particular.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And I totally agree, when it comes to oysters, the smaller, the better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> And the batch of dozen that we got, we just got tiny, beautiful, flavorful oysters. We ordered the 12 that they basically chose for us, and it did not disappoint.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> But we started with the Route One bread starter, which is half of a loaf of bread covered in black sesame seeds, and it almost had a bagel-like quality, and I wouldn’t have expected to enjoy bread that much. I really came for the oysters, but it was really good, and it came with this big honking piece of butter that was gone instantly. We had to ask for more, but it was sweet, and it was a really great addition to the rest of the meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you get anything else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We got a lot. We got a lot. We ordered the grilled oysters. My wife and I loved. We got two of the garlic butter one and two of the miso butter one, and they were delicious, super savory. It was just novel, like a little bit of a Japanese twist to it. I got the Fish Tacos for myself. Very, very fresh and tasty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> They do have a seasonal rotating menu. Which tacos did you get?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> It came with rockfish, a little bit of cabbage, chipotle aioli. My wife got the mussels, and the thing that she was pleasantly surprised by is it had a little bit of chorizo in the mussels, which she liked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> And then a pro tip that I definitely personally recommend, especially for the mussels and the fries, you got to use the mussel as a spoon to get the broth and then slurp it up. It just makes it a part of the experience. It’s really what makes it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, pro tip. We got it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Luis Ferguson:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you get something else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We did. We ordered several other things, but the standout for me was the Fish & Chips. It was a really light fry, and they had this beautiful white rockfish, super flaky. My husband is an expert fisherman, worked on a boat for many years. And so, I’m always kind of nervous when we eat the fish. Is it up to par? And he loved it, I loved it. A beautiful house-made tartar sauce. I would totally order that again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Charles Tsang:\u003c/strong> We also ordered the clam chowder. We loved it. The clams still have the shell on, so they were really, really fresh, and the aromatic vegetables that were added in there, great composition. There was a little bit of potato, celery, carrot, and even a little bit of bacon. The one thing to keep in mind is I’m not quite as used to having clam chowder that’s not, like, New England style and chunky. The one they have here at Tony’s is a little bit more soupy and liquidy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laurel Valaris:\u003c/strong> We had an It’s-It. 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