Hot Eats Round-Up: Humphry Slocombe Ice Cream, Brews & BBQ from Dave McLean
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Photo: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\" width=\"1000\" height=\"1000\" class=\"size-full wp-image-79153\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ice cream service at the new Humphry Slocombe shop at the SF Ferry Building.\u003cbr>Photo credit: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>With so many hot new food projects happening it can be hard to keep track of them all. Here are the fresh updates on folks we've profiled in the past: the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2010/11/12/food-secrets-of-humphry-slocombes-jake-godby-sean-vahey/\">Humphry Slocombe\u003c/a> team, as well as Dave McLean of \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2013/05/28/into-the-cellar-with-dave-mclean-brews-dogpatch-news/\">Magnolia Brewery\u003c/a> fame. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fans of the wildly popular artisan \u003ca href=\"http://www.humphryslocombe.com/www.humphryslocombe.com/Home.html\" target=\"_blank\">Humphry Slocombe\u003c/a> ice cream store, from Sean Vahey and Jake Godby, are able to now enjoy scoop action at a new Ferry Building outpost (Ferry Plaza Farmers Market at The Embarcadero), which opened earlier this month. We caught up with Vahey to find out more. His comments have been edited for content and clarity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_79154\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/humphry-slocombe-sign1000.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/humphry-slocombe-sign1000.jpg\" alt=\"Humphry Slocombe signage at Ferry Building. Photo: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\" width=\"1000\" height=\"667\" class=\"size-full wp-image-79154\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Humphry Slocombe signage at Ferry Building\u003cbr>Photo: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\u003cbr>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Tell us about your new spot.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vahey:\u003c/strong> The Ferry Building approached us and we're honored to be asked. We'd been doing the Tuesday market outside and have a lot of great relationships with folks in the building like \u003ca href=\"http://www.bluebottlecoffee.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Blue Bottle coffee\u003c/a>--they serve our ice cream with their affogato. There's also \u003ca href=\"http://www.farwestfungi.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Far West Fungi\u003c/a>, who helped us do our candy cap popsicles. Some say they taste like waffles, or pancakes, I say “Who cares?” It's that maple-y, \"Who knew mushrooms could taste like that?\" thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_79151\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 487px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/Frankeny-Viet-Coffee-Slocombe.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/Frankeny-Viet-Coffee-Slocombe.jpg\" alt=\"Blue Bottle Coffee Co. Vietnamese Coffee Humphry Slocombe ice cream with Brownie. Photo: Frankeny Images\" width=\"487\" height=\"576\" class=\"size-full wp-image-79151\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Blue Bottle Coffee Co. Vietnamese Coffee Humphry Slocombe ice cream with Brownie. Photo: Frankeny Images\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Other relationships include \u003ca href=\"http://www.mcevoyranch.com/\" target=\"_blank\">McEvoy Ranch Olive Oil\u003c/a>, who has our pints. And then there's \u003ca href=\"http://www.boccalone.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Boccalone Salumeria\u003c/a> who worked on our lard caramels. Since we're involved with so many people at the Ferry Building, it's a good fit for us.\u003cbr>\n \u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Tell us about what folks can look forward to now that you're open. \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vahey:\u003c/strong> The first thing people ask is “You will have Secret Breakfast, right?” I love the look on everyone's face—they have their nose down and this sort of panicked look. Yes, we will have Secret Breakfast, and very similar flavors as our Mission shop: Tahitian Vanilla, Blue Bottle Vietnamese coffee and Secret Breakfast will always be offered so people can get their fix.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some flavors will change and there's no rhyme or reason to it, like in the Mission. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We are most proud of the space--Jane Martin at \u003ca href=\"http://www.shiftdesignstudio.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Shift Design\u003c/a> is our Mission neighbor and that's how we got to know her. She's also a friend and customer. Her idea on how to change the space really went along with what we were thinking -- it was darker and we wanted it be more interactive. We fought her on some things -- the open up wall, that continues the space out into the breezeway, makes the store appear bigger and more welcoming. We'll have stand up tables, because we want customers to stay and hang out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_79184\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 500px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/humphry-slocombe-ingredients.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/humphry-slocombe-ingredients-645x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Humphry Slocombe ingredients. Photo: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\" width=\"500\" class=\"size-large wp-image-79184\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Humphry Slocombe ingredients. Photo: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What is the toughest part about opening?\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Vahey:\u003c/strong> Probably the transition of the space, which took a lot longer than we thought. We demolished the whole space, and made it completely our own.\u003cbr>\n \u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What do you have planned for the future?\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Vahey:\u003c/strong> We want to get the Ferry Building spot up and running. We do all of our production out of the Mission shop. It's almost 24 hour production at this point. We have a great kitchen manager and bought a new bigger machine. I do see us growing out of that space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We're so lucky to be working with \u003ca href=\"http://www.virginamerica.com/press-release/2014/virgin-america-introduces-posh-new-first-class-food-service.html\" target=\"_blank\">Virgin America\u003c/a>, which will serve our Butter By Moodlight flavor on eastbound flights. It's a creamy combination of brown butter and blueberry glaze and was voted in based on a people's choice contest on Twitter. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What’s your guilty food pleasure?\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Vahey:\u003c/strong> Salt and vinegar chips, and fries--anything that has salt and vinegar in front of it. I can't believe I just said that.\u003cbr>\n \u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>The wait for a new brewery and BBQ spot—called Smokestack (2505 3rd St. at 22nd St.) -- from \u003ca href=\"http://www.magnoliapub.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Dave McLean\u003c/a> has been eagerly anticipated and means a new place to eat and drink in the increasingly popular Dogpatch neighborhood. The brewery is reportedly up and running and played host to SF Beer Week and Strong Beer Month happenings--but it's not yet open for business. The targeted opening remains uncertain but is said to be as soon as this month. McLean filled us in on what to expect; his comments have been edited for content and clarity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62690\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/davemclean640x360b.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/davemclean640x360b.jpg\" alt=\"Dave Mclean at Magnolia Brewery. Screenshot from video Magnolia Dogpatch coming soon\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62690\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dave Mclean at Magnolia Brewery. Screenshot from video \u003ca href=\"http://vimeo.com/59381997\">Magnolia Dogpatch coming soon\u003c/a>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Tell us about your new spot.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> It’s a BBQ place, Smokestack, in the front of our new production brewery in the Dogpatch. Like brewing, BBQ is a time-honored craft, full of tradition and regional variation but ultimately an opportunity for creative expression in the hands of people who love it and dedicate themselves to it. For us, it’s a great extension of many of our longtime culinary values, especially sustainable sourcing, in-house butchery and making everything from scratch. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beer and BBQ just go so well together. So do bourbon and BBQ, and Smokestack has an extensive whiskey selection, focusing on American producers, and a somewhat whiskey-centric cocktail menu developed by bar manager, Eric Quilty. We forged an exciting partnership with Dennis Lee to man the smokers and bring our BBQ vision to life in a unique and expressive way. I’ve always loved his food and it’s exciting to be working with him. Smokestack brings together a great team of people, along with products and ideas that we love, in a special place that we hope exudes both warm hospitality and a nod to the neighborhood’s industrial past. Like the original Magnolia Pub as well as Alembic, we hope it further highlights the delicious interconnectedness of beer and brewing with all manner of food and other beverages. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: For food, what can folks look forward to?\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> The heart of the kitchen is in its smokers. In fact, everything in the kitchen is wood-fired. It’s an order by the pound at the counter place so diners will get to try a lot of different items, especially if they bring a hungry friend or two. The selection will vary based on availability but look for smoked pork belly, beef brisket and house-made sausages like Thai chili cheddar pork. Sides include burnt ends heirloom beans, collard greens with Kölsch, miso and chili, and Namu’s signature old family recipe kimchee. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: And share about the beers of course!\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> We’ve brewed over 75 different beers since Magnolia opened in 1997 and our new brewery in the Dogpatch allows us to experiment even more. The beer selection will rotate often, as it does at the original Haight pub, but we have a core lineup that includes our Kalifornia Kölsch, Proving Ground IPA, and Blue Bell Bitter, which is our ode to the great heirloom barley from the UK, Maris Otter. Alongside those and others, there will be Magnolia beers at Smokestack that are only available at our own two pubs. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What is the toughest part about opening?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McLean: It’s the classic adage — everything takes a lot longer and costs a lot more than planned, no matter how well you plan. I think it might be a little different every time, in terms of which variables are the toughest to figure out. It has its challenging moments but in the end love for what we do keeps enthusiasm high and there’s plenty of energy to weather the hurdles and delays. \u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Which of these new spots are you excited to try? What other openings are on your list?\u003c/h3>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Mary Ladd reports the juiciest updates on hot new spots from cult ice cream maker Humphry Slocombe--yes, there will be Secret Breakfast! Then there's the Dogpatch project from Dave McLean, the beer maker behind Magnolia Gastropub and Brewery and Alembic--look for tasty BBQ (including smoked pork belly, beef brisket and house-made sausages) from Chef Dennis Lee of Namu.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1395237588,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":23,"wordCount":1353},"headData":{"title":"Hot Eats Round-Up: Humphry Slocombe Ice Cream, Brews & BBQ from Dave McLean | KQED","description":"Mary Ladd reports the juiciest updates on hot new spots from cult ice cream maker Humphry Slocombe--yes, there will be Secret Breakfast! Then there's the Dogpatch project from Dave McLean, the beer maker behind Magnolia Gastropub and Brewery and Alembic--look for tasty BBQ (including smoked pork belly, beef brisket and house-made sausages) from Chef Dennis Lee of Namu.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Hot Eats Round-Up: Humphry Slocombe Ice Cream, Brews & BBQ from Dave McLean","datePublished":"2014-03-17T18:27:50.000Z","dateModified":"2014-03-19T13:59:48.000Z","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"disqusIdentifier":"79087 http://blogs.kqed.org/bayareabites/?p=79087","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2014/03/17/hot-eats-round-up-humphry-slocombe-ice-cream-brews-bbq-from-dave-mclean/","disqusTitle":"Hot Eats Round-Up: Humphry Slocombe Ice Cream, Brews & BBQ from Dave McLean","path":"/bayareabites/79087/hot-eats-round-up-humphry-slocombe-ice-cream-brews-bbq-from-dave-mclean","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_79153\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/humphry-slocombe-service1000.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/humphry-slocombe-service1000.jpg\" alt=\"Ice cream service at the new Humphry Slocombe shop at the SF Ferry Building. Photo: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\" width=\"1000\" height=\"1000\" class=\"size-full wp-image-79153\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ice cream service at the new Humphry Slocombe shop at the SF Ferry Building.\u003cbr>Photo credit: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>With so many hot new food projects happening it can be hard to keep track of them all. Here are the fresh updates on folks we've profiled in the past: the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2010/11/12/food-secrets-of-humphry-slocombes-jake-godby-sean-vahey/\">Humphry Slocombe\u003c/a> team, as well as Dave McLean of \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2013/05/28/into-the-cellar-with-dave-mclean-brews-dogpatch-news/\">Magnolia Brewery\u003c/a> fame. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fans of the wildly popular artisan \u003ca href=\"http://www.humphryslocombe.com/www.humphryslocombe.com/Home.html\" target=\"_blank\">Humphry Slocombe\u003c/a> ice cream store, from Sean Vahey and Jake Godby, are able to now enjoy scoop action at a new Ferry Building outpost (Ferry Plaza Farmers Market at The Embarcadero), which opened earlier this month. We caught up with Vahey to find out more. His comments have been edited for content and clarity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_79154\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/humphry-slocombe-sign1000.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/humphry-slocombe-sign1000.jpg\" alt=\"Humphry Slocombe signage at Ferry Building. Photo: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\" width=\"1000\" height=\"667\" class=\"size-full wp-image-79154\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Humphry Slocombe signage at Ferry Building\u003cbr>Photo: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\u003cbr>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Tell us about your new spot.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vahey:\u003c/strong> The Ferry Building approached us and we're honored to be asked. We'd been doing the Tuesday market outside and have a lot of great relationships with folks in the building like \u003ca href=\"http://www.bluebottlecoffee.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Blue Bottle coffee\u003c/a>--they serve our ice cream with their affogato. There's also \u003ca href=\"http://www.farwestfungi.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Far West Fungi\u003c/a>, who helped us do our candy cap popsicles. Some say they taste like waffles, or pancakes, I say “Who cares?” It's that maple-y, \"Who knew mushrooms could taste like that?\" thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_79151\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 487px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/Frankeny-Viet-Coffee-Slocombe.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/Frankeny-Viet-Coffee-Slocombe.jpg\" alt=\"Blue Bottle Coffee Co. Vietnamese Coffee Humphry Slocombe ice cream with Brownie. Photo: Frankeny Images\" width=\"487\" height=\"576\" class=\"size-full wp-image-79151\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Blue Bottle Coffee Co. Vietnamese Coffee Humphry Slocombe ice cream with Brownie. Photo: Frankeny Images\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Other relationships include \u003ca href=\"http://www.mcevoyranch.com/\" target=\"_blank\">McEvoy Ranch Olive Oil\u003c/a>, who has our pints. And then there's \u003ca href=\"http://www.boccalone.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Boccalone Salumeria\u003c/a> who worked on our lard caramels. Since we're involved with so many people at the Ferry Building, it's a good fit for us.\u003cbr>\n \u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Tell us about what folks can look forward to now that you're open. \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Vahey:\u003c/strong> The first thing people ask is “You will have Secret Breakfast, right?” I love the look on everyone's face—they have their nose down and this sort of panicked look. Yes, we will have Secret Breakfast, and very similar flavors as our Mission shop: Tahitian Vanilla, Blue Bottle Vietnamese coffee and Secret Breakfast will always be offered so people can get their fix.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some flavors will change and there's no rhyme or reason to it, like in the Mission. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We are most proud of the space--Jane Martin at \u003ca href=\"http://www.shiftdesignstudio.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Shift Design\u003c/a> is our Mission neighbor and that's how we got to know her. She's also a friend and customer. Her idea on how to change the space really went along with what we were thinking -- it was darker and we wanted it be more interactive. We fought her on some things -- the open up wall, that continues the space out into the breezeway, makes the store appear bigger and more welcoming. We'll have stand up tables, because we want customers to stay and hang out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_79184\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 500px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/humphry-slocombe-ingredients.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/03/humphry-slocombe-ingredients-645x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Humphry Slocombe ingredients. Photo: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\" width=\"500\" class=\"size-large wp-image-79184\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Humphry Slocombe ingredients. Photo: Sean Vahey, Humphry Slocombe\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What is the toughest part about opening?\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Vahey:\u003c/strong> Probably the transition of the space, which took a lot longer than we thought. We demolished the whole space, and made it completely our own.\u003cbr>\n \u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What do you have planned for the future?\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Vahey:\u003c/strong> We want to get the Ferry Building spot up and running. We do all of our production out of the Mission shop. It's almost 24 hour production at this point. We have a great kitchen manager and bought a new bigger machine. I do see us growing out of that space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We're so lucky to be working with \u003ca href=\"http://www.virginamerica.com/press-release/2014/virgin-america-introduces-posh-new-first-class-food-service.html\" target=\"_blank\">Virgin America\u003c/a>, which will serve our Butter By Moodlight flavor on eastbound flights. It's a creamy combination of brown butter and blueberry glaze and was voted in based on a people's choice contest on Twitter. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What’s your guilty food pleasure?\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Vahey:\u003c/strong> Salt and vinegar chips, and fries--anything that has salt and vinegar in front of it. I can't believe I just said that.\u003cbr>\n \u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>The wait for a new brewery and BBQ spot—called Smokestack (2505 3rd St. at 22nd St.) -- from \u003ca href=\"http://www.magnoliapub.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Dave McLean\u003c/a> has been eagerly anticipated and means a new place to eat and drink in the increasingly popular Dogpatch neighborhood. The brewery is reportedly up and running and played host to SF Beer Week and Strong Beer Month happenings--but it's not yet open for business. The targeted opening remains uncertain but is said to be as soon as this month. McLean filled us in on what to expect; his comments have been edited for content and clarity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62690\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/davemclean640x360b.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/davemclean640x360b.jpg\" alt=\"Dave Mclean at Magnolia Brewery. Screenshot from video Magnolia Dogpatch coming soon\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62690\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dave Mclean at Magnolia Brewery. Screenshot from video \u003ca href=\"http://vimeo.com/59381997\">Magnolia Dogpatch coming soon\u003c/a>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Tell us about your new spot.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> It’s a BBQ place, Smokestack, in the front of our new production brewery in the Dogpatch. Like brewing, BBQ is a time-honored craft, full of tradition and regional variation but ultimately an opportunity for creative expression in the hands of people who love it and dedicate themselves to it. For us, it’s a great extension of many of our longtime culinary values, especially sustainable sourcing, in-house butchery and making everything from scratch. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beer and BBQ just go so well together. So do bourbon and BBQ, and Smokestack has an extensive whiskey selection, focusing on American producers, and a somewhat whiskey-centric cocktail menu developed by bar manager, Eric Quilty. We forged an exciting partnership with Dennis Lee to man the smokers and bring our BBQ vision to life in a unique and expressive way. I’ve always loved his food and it’s exciting to be working with him. Smokestack brings together a great team of people, along with products and ideas that we love, in a special place that we hope exudes both warm hospitality and a nod to the neighborhood’s industrial past. Like the original Magnolia Pub as well as Alembic, we hope it further highlights the delicious interconnectedness of beer and brewing with all manner of food and other beverages. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: For food, what can folks look forward to?\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> The heart of the kitchen is in its smokers. In fact, everything in the kitchen is wood-fired. It’s an order by the pound at the counter place so diners will get to try a lot of different items, especially if they bring a hungry friend or two. The selection will vary based on availability but look for smoked pork belly, beef brisket and house-made sausages like Thai chili cheddar pork. Sides include burnt ends heirloom beans, collard greens with Kölsch, miso and chili, and Namu’s signature old family recipe kimchee. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: And share about the beers of course!\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> We’ve brewed over 75 different beers since Magnolia opened in 1997 and our new brewery in the Dogpatch allows us to experiment even more. The beer selection will rotate often, as it does at the original Haight pub, but we have a core lineup that includes our Kalifornia Kölsch, Proving Ground IPA, and Blue Bell Bitter, which is our ode to the great heirloom barley from the UK, Maris Otter. Alongside those and others, there will be Magnolia beers at Smokestack that are only available at our own two pubs. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What is the toughest part about opening?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>McLean: It’s the classic adage — everything takes a lot longer and costs a lot more than planned, no matter how well you plan. I think it might be a little different every time, in terms of which variables are the toughest to figure out. It has its challenging moments but in the end love for what we do keeps enthusiasm high and there’s plenty of energy to weather the hurdles and delays. \u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Which of these new spots are you excited to try? What other openings are on your list?\u003c/h3>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/bayareabites/79087/hot-eats-round-up-humphry-slocombe-ice-cream-brews-bbq-from-dave-mclean","authors":["5092"],"categories":["bayareabites_109","bayareabites_301","bayareabites_1653","bayareabites_1875","bayareabites_1807","bayareabites_90"],"tags":["bayareabites_11737","bayareabites_2804","bayareabites_4153","bayareabites_8399","bayareabites_312","bayareabites_11666"],"featImg":"bayareabites_79152","label":"bayareabites"},"bayareabites_62217":{"type":"posts","id":"bayareabites_62217","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"bayareabites","id":"62217","score":null,"sort":[1369781607000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"into-the-cellar-with-dave-mclean-brews-dogpatch-news","title":"Into the Cellar with Dave McLean: Brews & Dogpatch News","publishDate":1369781607,"format":"aside","headTitle":"Bay Area Bites | KQED Food","labelTerm":{"site":"bayareabites"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62492\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 500px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Pub-Young-Couple-In-Front600.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Pub-Young-Couple-In-Front600.jpg\" alt=\"Magnolia Pub & Brewery on Haight Street\" width=\"500\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62492\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Magnolia Pub & Brewery on Haight Street\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62498\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 250px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Dave-in-Brewery-Basement400.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Dave-in-Brewery-Basement400.jpg\" alt=\"Dave McLean in the Magnolia Brewery basement\" width=\"250\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62498\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dave McLean in the Magnolia Brewery basement\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While the craft beer movement continues to rake in more fans willing to spend their hard-earned green on the finer beers in life, San Francisco-based Brewmaster Dave McLean remains a key figure to watch. Ever since he opened \u003ca href=\"http://www.magnoliapub.com/\">Magnolia Gastropub and Brewery\u003c/a> in the Haight in 1997, the spot has increasingly been a draw for those seeking Kalifornia Kolsch and Big Cypress Brown and cask-conditioned beer (Blue Bell Bitter, Spud's Boy IPA). There's also food with a local bent that covers favorites like Scotch eggs and a decadent Prather Ranch burger. McLean, who is on the Board of Directors for the \u003ca href=\"http://sfbrewersguild.org/\">San Francisco Brewers Guild\u003c/a>, told us that even today, people are still shocked that the restaurant also houses a working brewery in the basement. He is close to opening a bigger, better, new \u003ca href=\"http://magnoliapub.com/dogpatch.html\">brewery\u003c/a> with BBQ offerings from the folks from \u003ca href=\"http://www.namusf.com/\">Namu\u003c/a>... across town, in the morphing Dogpatch neighborhood. McClean also owns \u003ca href=\"http://www.alembicbar.com/\">The Alembic\u003c/a>, which dishes up craft cocktails and bites right down the lane from Magnolia. We caught up in person recently to find out more about the new Dogpatch space and McLean's career. His comments have been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62501\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Scotch-eggs1000.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Scotch-eggs1000.jpg\" alt=\"Quail Scotch eggs\" width=\"1000\" height=\"750\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62501\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Quail Scotch eggs\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Tell us about the new Magnolia Dogpatch brewery.\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> The whole move to go over there was basically driven by us not having enough beer production capacity here. We were already maxed out with continually growing the business and have a nice wholesale draft business. We were looking at the whole place craft beer has gotten to and it makes sense to grow in a more robust way. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We built Magnolia Brewery 15 years ago and it’s really a finite space—we can’t add another tank or vessel downstairs. We created a way to grow our business as well as grow our packaging and bottling. To give the amount of energy and attention needed to do this, I have broken things up into phase one and phase two.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We will open in the Dogpatch in very late June or early July. There are a lot of moving parts because we are also building a full service restaurant over there. With expanding, there’s always the fear of losing the thing you do well that makes you special. We want to focus on a few initial steps that are logical and get the brewery up and running and get the beer to taste the way we want it, which is no small task. For us, bigger and better things means doing packaged beer outside of the Bay Area and bigger distribution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62500\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Prather-burger-with-cheese1000.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Prather-burger-with-cheese1000.jpg\" alt=\" Magnolia’s Prather Ranch cheeseburger\" width=\"1000\" height=\"750\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62500\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Magnolia’s Prather Ranch cheeseburger\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: How did you decide to work with the Namu Gaji folks, who will do the restaurant portion of the brewery?\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> I think that honestly evolved organically out of mutual admiration. I’ve long been a huge fan of what they do since the Namu in Balboa opened. I love going there. They have amazing sake and I drink the beer we make there. They’ve been semi-regulars to Magnolia and Alembic, too. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: How will the Dogpatch brewery be similar and different to your other places? \u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62499\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 250px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-kegs-to-the-left400.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-kegs-to-the-left400.jpg\" alt=\"Magnolia’s kegs\" width=\"250\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62499\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Magnolia’s kegs\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> Nobody sees the brewery here because it’s tucked in the basement. Fifteen years later people still express shock that there is a brewery down there. With the new spot, people may think, “Hey, there’s a relatively large brewery here.” We’re not putting the brewery behind glass because that style doesn’t really appeal to me. Customers will certainly be exposed to this idea that you’re in a beer production facility. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In terms of the restaurant itself, the extended Magnolia family has grown and evolved. The everyday customer is most familiar with the relationships we have: Prather Ranch and Arnold Sutton. That’s what you taste when you eat and drink here. I think people understand who our extended family is. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s also the family of craftsman and artisans who have been creating with us. At the new place that will make for a similar look and feel. If it’s similar, it’s because we have some of the same people and we can almost finish each others sentences. The flip side of that is it’s an industrial space in a very different neighborhood across town. We’re very sensitive to not produce the “Haight Alembic Magnolia experience.” The only truly identical thread is the beer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What’s it like working with the City on the Dogpatch build out?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> Everyone likes to complain about the city and I feel like I could. The most enthusiastic people we’ve seen are the Dogpatch residents and businesses. The neighborhood association was very welcoming and there’s already a sense of community there. It’s great to feel welcome and it really wasn’t an easy process to go through. Small artisan manufacturing is the kind of business the city wants to cultivate on the 3rd Street corridor. Some people in planning and the Mayor’s office of economic development are focused on the health of the neighborhood and that was kind of great. The planning and building department process can be convoluted and it definitely added a lot of time and cost to the project. No one can just make that go away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[vimeo 59381997]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What beer are you brewing now that is more experimental? Where do your ideas come from?\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> I’m currently working on a potential family of beers from the same starting point using wooden barrels. The beer is blended with an unaged version of itself. Since I’ve got elements of time and space, I can stack in the new space and let the beers sit and do their thing. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We work with a farmer in England. Each year we started out trying one ton of malt which sounds like a lot but it got us through four or five batches of beer. This year since we had the space we can get malt and have it at Dogpatch and then bring it over here and use as needed. We have room to play around with it. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Inspiration comes from everywhere. There’s a general receptivity about ideas that strike you at time--in conversations with colleagues. Collaboration is the nature of our industry. We talk a lot online and in person. That fosters an environment. An idea can come from any time if you’re being open to it. Research is not the norm anymore, but it was at the beginning of my career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62502\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Shot-of-People-Eating1000.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Shot-of-People-Eating1000.jpg\" alt=\"Magnolia Lunch scene\" width=\"1000\" height=\"750\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62502\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Magnolia Lunch scene\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Where do you think we are with craft beer production and appreciation in the Bay Area and nationally?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> In both cases it’s at an all time high. I don’t know if my peers 15-20 years ago were setting out to change the American beer industry. The American beer culture has changed. The share of the market that is craft beer is higher than people ever thought possible. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just like the food movement, people are showing that they prefer to identify with things made in their back yard by people they know. Those same hallmarks are showing up in the craft beer world. Not that long ago that you had to go to a craft beer pub but now you can’t open a restaurant without a decent craft beer component. I would expect it for the Bay Area because this is the cradle of the craft beer movement. One could argue that only recently the Bay Area is realizing its potential for the craft beer community. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rest of the country is definitely catching up. There are more interesting statistics --a vast majority of Americans live within ten miles of a craft brewery. That was a surprise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Tell us about your career and goals.\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> The nature of this craft beer movement at magnolia is that what’s possible continues to expand and that bucket gets bigger. It allows for this constant assessment and reformulation of vision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the beginning I was a 26 year-old home brewer. At that point the goal was surviving and not going out of business. The industry grew and we started making more beer. I got involved in events and had a history with people, which is important to add that to my vision. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This next growth spurt is a new level of visioning of what to do with the beer. I don't want to characterize things as doing it by the seat of our pants because there is strategic thinking involved. Yet some of the charm of what makes it fun to come to work is figuring out, “Where are we going with this?” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not all been a super easy or rosy path to get here and I have made dumb mistakes. Thinking as a brewer that it is easy to run a restaurant was almost catastrophic mistake Number One. I hired friends, and we spent a lot of time nearly failing. Now I’d like to pivot off the trial and error period that’s lasted ten to fifteen years and make something that’s built to last.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now that I’m in my forties, I think about the fact that there are breweries that outlive their founders. So it’s coming up with a succession plan. We’re going to grow the business and grow the brand. I’d like it to be such a great place to work that we keep folks for a long time. There’s a natural maturation when you manage and operate something that leaves a good mark. Being a bit bigger gives you more freedom and flexibility to create a better work place that’s more sustainable in all ways, not just in ingredient sourcing. I try to live up to that. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What are your favorite local joints for beer and food?\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> We have such a community of people approaching their craft in the same way. When you go out, it’s “who do you want to check in on and see what they’re up to?” I subconsciously landed myself at the nexus of cocktails, craft beer and food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I love the Ferry Building. My wife and I love \u003ca href=\"http://www.nopasf.com/\">Nopa\u003c/a> and our whole family loves the quesadilla roja con chicharon at \u003ca href=\"http://www.nopalitosf.com/\">Nopalito\u003c/a>. I admire and look to Nopa and Nopalito to see how they do it – the folks there are kindred spirits. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Similarly, running into Bi-Rite Market’s \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2011/08/06/favorite-food-spots-of-bi-rites-sam-mogannam/\">Sam Mogannam\u003c/a> at events always feels like I’m with a long lost cousin or brother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.zunicafe.com/\">Zuni\u003c/a> is a familiar comfort spot. At the off peak times, it’s better and feels like an awesome San Francisco thing. That inspires me. I love that you can be hungry at three in the afternoon and find a place that’s doing killer drinks and food. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2010/06/05/farr-out-bay-area-eats-with-ryan-and-cesalee-farr-of-4505-meats/\">Ryan Farr's\u003c/a> burger at his 4505 Meats stand is always amazing. It’s an addiction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Related Information:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.magnoliapub.com/\">Magnolia Gastropub and Brewery\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Address:\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"http://goo.gl/maps/xzGuo\">Map\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n1398 Haight St.\u003cbr>\nSan Francisco CA 94117\u003cbr>\n(415) 864-7468\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Facebook:\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/pages/Magnolia-Gastropub-Brewery/62902472652\">Magnolia Gastropub & Brewery\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Twitter:\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/magnoliapub\">@magnoliapub\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.alembicbar.com/\">The Alembic\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Address:\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"http://goo.gl/maps/JX1hR\">Map\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n1725 Haight St.\u003cbr>\nSan Francisco CA 94117\u003cbr>\n(415) 666-0822\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Facebook:\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alembic/57162567265?fref=ts&rf=135646313172083\">The Alembic\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Twitter:\u003c/strong> \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/alembicbar\">@alembicbar\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Brewmaster Dave McLean dishes about his new Dogpatch brewery, set to open soon. McLean is the owner of the Magnolia Gastropub & Brewery and Alembic hotspots and shares about the state of craft beer (hint: we're in such a sweet spot for suds lovers). ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1383235208,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":39,"wordCount":1978},"headData":{"title":"Into the Cellar with Dave McLean: Brews & Dogpatch News | KQED","description":"Brewmaster Dave McLean dishes about his new Dogpatch brewery, set to open soon. McLean is the owner of the Magnolia Gastropub & Brewery and Alembic hotspots and shares about the state of craft beer (hint: we're in such a sweet spot for suds lovers). 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Ever since he opened \u003ca href=\"http://www.magnoliapub.com/\">Magnolia Gastropub and Brewery\u003c/a> in the Haight in 1997, the spot has increasingly been a draw for those seeking Kalifornia Kolsch and Big Cypress Brown and cask-conditioned beer (Blue Bell Bitter, Spud's Boy IPA). There's also food with a local bent that covers favorites like Scotch eggs and a decadent Prather Ranch burger. McLean, who is on the Board of Directors for the \u003ca href=\"http://sfbrewersguild.org/\">San Francisco Brewers Guild\u003c/a>, told us that even today, people are still shocked that the restaurant also houses a working brewery in the basement. He is close to opening a bigger, better, new \u003ca href=\"http://magnoliapub.com/dogpatch.html\">brewery\u003c/a> with BBQ offerings from the folks from \u003ca href=\"http://www.namusf.com/\">Namu\u003c/a>... across town, in the morphing Dogpatch neighborhood. McClean also owns \u003ca href=\"http://www.alembicbar.com/\">The Alembic\u003c/a>, which dishes up craft cocktails and bites right down the lane from Magnolia. We caught up in person recently to find out more about the new Dogpatch space and McLean's career. His comments have been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62501\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Scotch-eggs1000.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Scotch-eggs1000.jpg\" alt=\"Quail Scotch eggs\" width=\"1000\" height=\"750\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62501\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Quail Scotch eggs\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Tell us about the new Magnolia Dogpatch brewery.\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> The whole move to go over there was basically driven by us not having enough beer production capacity here. We were already maxed out with continually growing the business and have a nice wholesale draft business. We were looking at the whole place craft beer has gotten to and it makes sense to grow in a more robust way. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We built Magnolia Brewery 15 years ago and it’s really a finite space—we can’t add another tank or vessel downstairs. We created a way to grow our business as well as grow our packaging and bottling. To give the amount of energy and attention needed to do this, I have broken things up into phase one and phase two.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We will open in the Dogpatch in very late June or early July. There are a lot of moving parts because we are also building a full service restaurant over there. With expanding, there’s always the fear of losing the thing you do well that makes you special. We want to focus on a few initial steps that are logical and get the brewery up and running and get the beer to taste the way we want it, which is no small task. For us, bigger and better things means doing packaged beer outside of the Bay Area and bigger distribution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62500\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Prather-burger-with-cheese1000.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Prather-burger-with-cheese1000.jpg\" alt=\" Magnolia’s Prather Ranch cheeseburger\" width=\"1000\" height=\"750\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62500\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Magnolia’s Prather Ranch cheeseburger\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: How did you decide to work with the Namu Gaji folks, who will do the restaurant portion of the brewery?\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> I think that honestly evolved organically out of mutual admiration. I’ve long been a huge fan of what they do since the Namu in Balboa opened. I love going there. They have amazing sake and I drink the beer we make there. They’ve been semi-regulars to Magnolia and Alembic, too. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: How will the Dogpatch brewery be similar and different to your other places? \u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62499\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 250px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-kegs-to-the-left400.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-kegs-to-the-left400.jpg\" alt=\"Magnolia’s kegs\" width=\"250\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62499\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Magnolia’s kegs\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> Nobody sees the brewery here because it’s tucked in the basement. Fifteen years later people still express shock that there is a brewery down there. With the new spot, people may think, “Hey, there’s a relatively large brewery here.” We’re not putting the brewery behind glass because that style doesn’t really appeal to me. Customers will certainly be exposed to this idea that you’re in a beer production facility. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In terms of the restaurant itself, the extended Magnolia family has grown and evolved. The everyday customer is most familiar with the relationships we have: Prather Ranch and Arnold Sutton. That’s what you taste when you eat and drink here. I think people understand who our extended family is. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s also the family of craftsman and artisans who have been creating with us. At the new place that will make for a similar look and feel. If it’s similar, it’s because we have some of the same people and we can almost finish each others sentences. The flip side of that is it’s an industrial space in a very different neighborhood across town. We’re very sensitive to not produce the “Haight Alembic Magnolia experience.” The only truly identical thread is the beer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What’s it like working with the City on the Dogpatch build out?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> Everyone likes to complain about the city and I feel like I could. The most enthusiastic people we’ve seen are the Dogpatch residents and businesses. The neighborhood association was very welcoming and there’s already a sense of community there. It’s great to feel welcome and it really wasn’t an easy process to go through. Small artisan manufacturing is the kind of business the city wants to cultivate on the 3rd Street corridor. Some people in planning and the Mayor’s office of economic development are focused on the health of the neighborhood and that was kind of great. The planning and building department process can be convoluted and it definitely added a lot of time and cost to the project. No one can just make that go away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"vimeo","attributes":{"named":{"label":"59381997"},"numeric":["59381997"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What beer are you brewing now that is more experimental? Where do your ideas come from?\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> I’m currently working on a potential family of beers from the same starting point using wooden barrels. The beer is blended with an unaged version of itself. Since I’ve got elements of time and space, I can stack in the new space and let the beers sit and do their thing. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We work with a farmer in England. Each year we started out trying one ton of malt which sounds like a lot but it got us through four or five batches of beer. This year since we had the space we can get malt and have it at Dogpatch and then bring it over here and use as needed. We have room to play around with it. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Inspiration comes from everywhere. There’s a general receptivity about ideas that strike you at time--in conversations with colleagues. Collaboration is the nature of our industry. We talk a lot online and in person. That fosters an environment. An idea can come from any time if you’re being open to it. Research is not the norm anymore, but it was at the beginning of my career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62502\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Shot-of-People-Eating1000.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2013/05/Magnolia-Shot-of-People-Eating1000.jpg\" alt=\"Magnolia Lunch scene\" width=\"1000\" height=\"750\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62502\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Magnolia Lunch scene\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Where do you think we are with craft beer production and appreciation in the Bay Area and nationally?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> In both cases it’s at an all time high. I don’t know if my peers 15-20 years ago were setting out to change the American beer industry. The American beer culture has changed. The share of the market that is craft beer is higher than people ever thought possible. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just like the food movement, people are showing that they prefer to identify with things made in their back yard by people they know. Those same hallmarks are showing up in the craft beer world. Not that long ago that you had to go to a craft beer pub but now you can’t open a restaurant without a decent craft beer component. I would expect it for the Bay Area because this is the cradle of the craft beer movement. One could argue that only recently the Bay Area is realizing its potential for the craft beer community. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rest of the country is definitely catching up. There are more interesting statistics --a vast majority of Americans live within ten miles of a craft brewery. That was a surprise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: Tell us about your career and goals.\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> The nature of this craft beer movement at magnolia is that what’s possible continues to expand and that bucket gets bigger. It allows for this constant assessment and reformulation of vision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the beginning I was a 26 year-old home brewer. At that point the goal was surviving and not going out of business. The industry grew and we started making more beer. I got involved in events and had a history with people, which is important to add that to my vision. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This next growth spurt is a new level of visioning of what to do with the beer. I don't want to characterize things as doing it by the seat of our pants because there is strategic thinking involved. Yet some of the charm of what makes it fun to come to work is figuring out, “Where are we going with this?” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not all been a super easy or rosy path to get here and I have made dumb mistakes. Thinking as a brewer that it is easy to run a restaurant was almost catastrophic mistake Number One. I hired friends, and we spent a lot of time nearly failing. Now I’d like to pivot off the trial and error period that’s lasted ten to fifteen years and make something that’s built to last.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now that I’m in my forties, I think about the fact that there are breweries that outlive their founders. So it’s coming up with a succession plan. We’re going to grow the business and grow the brand. I’d like it to be such a great place to work that we keep folks for a long time. There’s a natural maturation when you manage and operate something that leaves a good mark. Being a bit bigger gives you more freedom and flexibility to create a better work place that’s more sustainable in all ways, not just in ingredient sourcing. I try to live up to that. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bay Area Bites: What are your favorite local joints for beer and food?\u003c/strong> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>McLean:\u003c/strong> We have such a community of people approaching their craft in the same way. When you go out, it’s “who do you want to check in on and see what they’re up to?” I subconsciously landed myself at the nexus of cocktails, craft beer and food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I love the Ferry Building. My wife and I love \u003ca href=\"http://www.nopasf.com/\">Nopa\u003c/a> and our whole family loves the quesadilla roja con chicharon at \u003ca href=\"http://www.nopalitosf.com/\">Nopalito\u003c/a>. I admire and look to Nopa and Nopalito to see how they do it – the folks there are kindred spirits. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Similarly, running into Bi-Rite Market’s \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2011/08/06/favorite-food-spots-of-bi-rites-sam-mogannam/\">Sam Mogannam\u003c/a> at events always feels like I’m with a long lost cousin or brother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.zunicafe.com/\">Zuni\u003c/a> is a familiar comfort spot. At the off peak times, it’s better and feels like an awesome San Francisco thing. That inspires me. I love that you can be hungry at three in the afternoon and find a place that’s doing killer drinks and food. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2010/06/05/farr-out-bay-area-eats-with-ryan-and-cesalee-farr-of-4505-meats/\">Ryan Farr's\u003c/a> burger at his 4505 Meats stand is always amazing. 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