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"content": "\u003cp>Devastating. Catastrophic. Deadly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These words are often used to describe wildfires in our state. As we’ve seen in the last five years, wildfires and the toxic smoke that comes with them have impacted all Californians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether it’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11834305/masks-for-smoke-and-covid-19-what-kind-is-best\">grabbing an N95 mask on smoky days\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11833686/what-to-pack-in-your-emergency-bag-with-covid-19-in-mind\">preparing an emergency go bag\u003c/a>, or \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11834901/fire-evacuation-what-actually-happens-and-how-can-you-plan\">evacuating your home\u003c/a> as a fire encroaches upon your town, communities across the state are now dealing with more aggressive fire seasons. But if fire — and all that comes in its wake — is an inevitable aspect of life here, how do we live \u003cem>with\u003c/em> it? And could we change our relationship to fire?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/dventon\">KQED Science’s Danielle Venton\u003c/a> has reported on fire and our changing climate for six years. She’s witnessed firsthand how we’ve come to think and talk about the role major fire phenomena have on our lives. Shifting our conversations, and even the metrics for measuring a fire’s impact, could help us craft multipronged solutions. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11885698/how-to-think-about-fire-in-a-different-way\">She spoke with Devin Katayama of The Bay\u003c/a> to discuss why the dominant fire narrative must change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC3762305706&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://bit.ly/3AZNKFy\">Read the episode transcript.\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Why are California’s wildfires so destructive now?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>[aside label ='Prepare for a Possible Evacuation' tag='prepare-evacuation']In 2021, \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/CALFIRE/posts/10159468556157390\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">fires \u003c/a>\u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/CALFIRE/posts/10159468556157390\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">already\u003c/a>\u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/CALFIRE/posts/10159468556157390\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> have burned through more acres than during last year’s record-breaking season\u003c/a> compared to this time last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For the first maybe two or three years, it kind of felt like a fluke,” Venton said. “[Now] it feels inevitable.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A century of fire suppression, \u003ca href=\"https://www.capradio.org/articles/2020/09/16/the-racist-removal-of-native-americans-in-california-is-often-missing-from-wildfire-discussions-experts-say/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the forced removal of California’s Indigenous people\u003c/a> from their land, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.summitdaily.com/news/playing-with-fire-how-a-history-of-mining-suppression-and-climate-change-has-fueled-a-new-generation-of-wildfires/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">extractive industries\u003c/a> combined with \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1962273/megadrought-conditions-not-seen-for-400-years-have-returned-to-the-west-scientists-say\">climate change-fueled megadroughts\u003c/a> have produced a uniquely combustible scenario that makes fires in the West more unpredictable than in previous decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to do some big rethinking about the state’s relationship with fires,” Venton said. “We might talk about being at war with fire, or we saw big dramatic headlines like ‘The West Is Burning,’ and that really indicates to me that we haven’t gotten over the idea that all fire is bad and that Western forests are not supposed to burn.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As fires have grown more destructive, engulfing entire towns and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11873396/i-cant-abandon-this-community-months-after-czu-fires-survivors-struggle-to-rebuild\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">displacing thousands of Californians\u003c/a>, scientists and ecologists are placing renewed attention on \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1973196/the-karuk-used-fire-to-manage-the-forest-for-centuries-now-they-want-to-do-that-again\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">prescribed burns, a centuries-old practice\u003c/a> that Indigenous tribes like the Klamath’s Karuk used for stewarding their land. The practice involves setting controlled fires, or “good fire,” to burn through dry debris in the understory of forests, which, if left dry and unmanaged, becomes the perfect fuel for a blaze.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"tiktok-embed\" style=\"max-width: 605px;min-width: 325px\" cite=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@kqedofficial/video/6997511512524901638\" data-video-id=\"6997511512524901638\">\n\u003csection>\u003ca title=\"@kqedofficial\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@kqedofficial\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">@kqedofficial\u003c/a>We break down how CA’s fire season got so bad. \u003ca title=\"california\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/california\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">##california\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"californiafire\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/californiafire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">##californiafire\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"wildfire2021\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/wildfire2021\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">##wildfire2021\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"dixiefire\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/dixiefire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">##dixiefire\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"climatechange\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/climatechange\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">##climatechange\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"droughtlife\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/droughtlife\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">##droughtlife\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"localnews\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/localnews\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">##localnews\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"firetok\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/firetok\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">##firetok\u003c/a>\u003ca title=\"♬ original sound - kqed\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/music/original-sound-6997511357541190406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">♬ original sound – kqed\u003c/a>\u003c/section>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>[tiktok]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How do you measure the impact of fire?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Not all fires are bad. But fire coverage and reporting often frame an incident as a disaster that must be contained, redirected or stopped. Californians are often used to understanding the magnitude of a developing disaster by dividing the incident into digestible pieces, like how many acres it’s burned, or how contained it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Venton says that fire’s impact can’t just be measured by acres and area contained. “If the fire is burning in a healthy way, in a place where it’s doing ecological good, a fire could be 15% contained. And that doesn’t tell you that it’s catastrophic necessarily,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, she argues that we should reassess and reprioritize metrics for measuring a fire’s impact. “How many people are being evacuated? Is it threatening towns?” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Is it burning in a way that is out of control and … how many firefighters are involved in the firefight? When did they last have a break?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11887361\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11887361 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021.jpg\" alt=\"Ash remains of a structure and a stone fireplace surrounded by dozens of charred trees.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A burned structure off Highway 50 near Phillips, California, on Tuesday, Aug. 31, 2021, after the Caldor Fire spread through the area that Monday evening. Until recently, federal firefighters — also known as “forestry technicians” — were paid about $13 an hour. A new plan under President Biden would increase that amount to $15 an hour. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>Who really fights fires?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Calling people heroes is not productive, Venton said. Instead, she urges us to think about who is doing this work and how they’re compensated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Until recently, federal firefighters — also known as “forestry technicians” — were paid about $13 an hour. \u003ca href=\"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-biden-expected-to-announce-pay-raises-for-federal-firefighters\">A new plan under President Biden would increase that amount to $15 an hour\u003c/a>, but “most of the livable wage comes from overtime, meaning that people rely on it, meaning that they feel like it’s never OK to say no to an assignment,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that doesn’t include the work of incarcerated firefighters who fight California’s blazes. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11846622/whats-next-for-incarcerated-firefighters-in-california\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Incarcerated firefighters are paid $2 to $5 per day\u003c/a>, and they get an extra dollar per hour when they’re actively working at a fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The work itself is brutal, and many firefighters are working long hours in dangerous situations while disconnected from their families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I would much rather they be fairly paid and fairly treated professionals,” Venton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A second change she recommends is to treat the work of fire prevention with the same attention and value as fighting existing blazes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The hero narrative feeds into this thing I see in our culture that I don’t like,” she explained. “We value coming to the rescue more than preventing problems in the first place.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size='large' align='right' citation='Danielle Venton, KQED Science Reporter']‘We value coming to the rescue more than preventing problems in the first place.’[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How can you create community-based solutions?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>“Fires are a human-caused problem, and that means that humans can be part of the solution,” Venton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">Through her reporting, Venton has met \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1973138/how-a-small-forest-community-saved-itself-from-fire\">neighbors who are taking fire prevention into their own hands\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the Fresno County town of Shaver Lake, bordered in part by land owned by Southern California Edison, communities spent decades putting in fire breaks and setting prescribed burns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While this approach might seem long and fairly unglamorous, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1973159/how-to-save-a-california-town-from-wildfire-plentyy-of-advance-work-and-agency-cooperation\">their mitigation efforts helped interrupt the spread of the 2020 Creek Fire\u003c/a>, which ultimately saved their town from devastation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the end, regarded as heroes were the firefighters, rather than the foresters and land managers who spent a decade building fuel breaks and lighting “good fires” as part of their mitigation strategy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People who extinguish flames are called heroes. People who trim brush and light prescribed fires aren’t thought of that way,” Venton said earlier this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2021/05/KQEDSCIENCE_CRKFR-1.gif\" alt=\"A gif shows how fuel breaks interrupted fire paths in the 2020 Creek Fire. The area with a previous prescribed burn is also indicated near the origin of the Creek Fire. Text reads: Forest treatments and fuel breaks helped interrupt the spread of the Creek Fire in the Shaver Lake area, Sept. 2020. \" width=\"400\" height=\"709\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Venton also points out that wildfires are a multifaceted and constantly evolving problem. One solution does not fit all. The solutions themselves are constantly evolving as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In her reporting, she says attention often falls on where mitigation attempts to prevent catastrophic fires have failed. “Of course, some fires are not going to respond to a firebreak,” she explained. “That doesn’t mean it’s not worth it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She points to an analogy of seatbelts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the 1950s, cars were incredibly dangerous and accidents could result in serious injury or death. But after iterations of new safety strategies, cars are now manufactured to include seatbelts, “crumple zones,” and airbags. That shift came about after years of experimenting and testing multiple solutions. The same goes for future wildfire prevention, which could involve variations of mitigation strategies.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>If not all fires are bad, what about wildfire smoke?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>“Wildfire smoke is likely the No. 1 way Californians will feel the effects of fires and really the effects of climate change,” Venton said. “Smoke is really its own natural disaster.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The 2018 Camp Fire in Butte County nearly obliterated the town of Paradise, killing 106 people and displacing thousands. On top of that devastation, researchers estimated that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1971666/california-wildfires-killed-106-people-two-years-ago-researchers-say-the-smoke-killed-3652\">the smoke of that fire killed an additional 3,600 people\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That’s 30 times more than a heart attack or respiratory illness,” Venton added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Venton says a major solution to mitigating hazardous levels of wildfire smoke would involve dramatically scaling up the amount of controlled and prescribed fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A little bit of smoke we should not worry about,” she explained. “It’s the really heavy, toxic smoke when homes and cars [burn] — and that’s the really bad smoke.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Venton urges us to reconsider the notion that blue skies mean ecological balance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bill Tripp, a member of the Karuk Tribe and an advocate for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1976240/californias-forests-are-at-a-turning-point-why-arent-we-committing-to-good-fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a return to prescribed burns\u003c/a>, told Venton that California’s skies have always been hazy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The historical records show that the forest looked like a well-pruned orchard with a constant haze of smoke in the air,” he said. “That haze, constant haze is part of that natural background. And that’s what people don’t understand.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But identifying ways to protect people from the hazardous smoke emitted from megafires is a necessary part of our fire conversation now. Researchers and journalists are just now measuring the full impacts smoke has on communities. For her part, Venton urges that questions like \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1976551/how-to-get-or-make-a-free-low-cost-air-purifier-for-your-home\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">how to access affordable air purifiers\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1969271/making-sense-of-purple-air-vs-airnow-and-a-new-map-to-rule-them-all\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">reliable information on air quality\u003c/a> be part of these conversations.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How can we live \u003cem>with\u003c/em> fire?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>[aside label ='Preparing An Emergency Bag' tag='emergency-bag']“I want us to have a better relationship with fire in this state so that this state continues to be habitable and a wonderful place to live,” Venton said\u003cstrong>.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our ecosystems would be healthier, our lungs would be healthier. Our communities would not have to live in so much fear.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While she admits California has a long way to go, she believes that a future with a restored relationship with fire is possible. It requires investment and a conversation toward solutions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If I can do anything to try to help the conversation towards those\u003cbr>\nsolutions, that’s what I want to do,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This episode was edited and mixed by \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realchrisjbeale\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Christopher Beale\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/amontecillo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Alan Montecillo\u003c/a> and hosted by \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/dkatayama\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Devin Katayama\u003c/a>. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Follow \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/the-bay\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u003cem>The Bay\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> to hear more local Bay Area stories like this one. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Devastating. Catastrophic. Deadly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These words are often used to describe wildfires in our state. As we’ve seen in the last five years, wildfires and the toxic smoke that comes with them have impacted all Californians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether it’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11834305/masks-for-smoke-and-covid-19-what-kind-is-best\">grabbing an N95 mask on smoky days\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11833686/what-to-pack-in-your-emergency-bag-with-covid-19-in-mind\">preparing an emergency go bag\u003c/a>, or \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11834901/fire-evacuation-what-actually-happens-and-how-can-you-plan\">evacuating your home\u003c/a> as a fire encroaches upon your town, communities across the state are now dealing with more aggressive fire seasons. But if fire — and all that comes in its wake — is an inevitable aspect of life here, how do we live \u003cem>with\u003c/em> it? And could we change our relationship to fire?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/dventon\">KQED Science’s Danielle Venton\u003c/a> has reported on fire and our changing climate for six years. She’s witnessed firsthand how we’ve come to think and talk about the role major fire phenomena have on our lives. Shifting our conversations, and even the metrics for measuring a fire’s impact, could help us craft multipronged solutions. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11885698/how-to-think-about-fire-in-a-different-way\">She spoke with Devin Katayama of The Bay\u003c/a> to discuss why the dominant fire narrative must change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC3762305706&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://bit.ly/3AZNKFy\">Read the episode transcript.\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Why are California’s wildfires so destructive now?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How do you measure the impact of fire?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Not all fires are bad. But fire coverage and reporting often frame an incident as a disaster that must be contained, redirected or stopped. Californians are often used to understanding the magnitude of a developing disaster by dividing the incident into digestible pieces, like how many acres it’s burned, or how contained it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Venton says that fire’s impact can’t just be measured by acres and area contained. “If the fire is burning in a healthy way, in a place where it’s doing ecological good, a fire could be 15% contained. And that doesn’t tell you that it’s catastrophic necessarily,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, she argues that we should reassess and reprioritize metrics for measuring a fire’s impact. “How many people are being evacuated? Is it threatening towns?” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Is it burning in a way that is out of control and … how many firefighters are involved in the firefight? When did they last have a break?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11887361\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11887361 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021.jpg\" alt=\"Ash remains of a structure and a stone fireplace surrounded by dozens of charred trees.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/09/071_CaldorFire_08312021-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A burned structure off Highway 50 near Phillips, California, on Tuesday, Aug. 31, 2021, after the Caldor Fire spread through the area that Monday evening. Until recently, federal firefighters — also known as “forestry technicians” — were paid about $13 an hour. A new plan under President Biden would increase that amount to $15 an hour. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>Who really fights fires?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Calling people heroes is not productive, Venton said. Instead, she urges us to think about who is doing this work and how they’re compensated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Until recently, federal firefighters — also known as “forestry technicians” — were paid about $13 an hour. \u003ca href=\"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-biden-expected-to-announce-pay-raises-for-federal-firefighters\">A new plan under President Biden would increase that amount to $15 an hour\u003c/a>, but “most of the livable wage comes from overtime, meaning that people rely on it, meaning that they feel like it’s never OK to say no to an assignment,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that doesn’t include the work of incarcerated firefighters who fight California’s blazes. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11846622/whats-next-for-incarcerated-firefighters-in-california\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Incarcerated firefighters are paid $2 to $5 per day\u003c/a>, and they get an extra dollar per hour when they’re actively working at a fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The work itself is brutal, and many firefighters are working long hours in dangerous situations while disconnected from their families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I would much rather they be fairly paid and fairly treated professionals,” Venton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A second change she recommends is to treat the work of fire prevention with the same attention and value as fighting existing blazes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The hero narrative feeds into this thing I see in our culture that I don’t like,” she explained. “We value coming to the rescue more than preventing problems in the first place.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How can you create community-based solutions?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>“Fires are a human-caused problem, and that means that humans can be part of the solution,” Venton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">Through her reporting, Venton has met \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1973138/how-a-small-forest-community-saved-itself-from-fire\">neighbors who are taking fire prevention into their own hands\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the Fresno County town of Shaver Lake, bordered in part by land owned by Southern California Edison, communities spent decades putting in fire breaks and setting prescribed burns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While this approach might seem long and fairly unglamorous, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1973159/how-to-save-a-california-town-from-wildfire-plentyy-of-advance-work-and-agency-cooperation\">their mitigation efforts helped interrupt the spread of the 2020 Creek Fire\u003c/a>, which ultimately saved their town from devastation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the end, regarded as heroes were the firefighters, rather than the foresters and land managers who spent a decade building fuel breaks and lighting “good fires” as part of their mitigation strategy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People who extinguish flames are called heroes. People who trim brush and light prescribed fires aren’t thought of that way,” Venton said earlier this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2021/05/KQEDSCIENCE_CRKFR-1.gif\" alt=\"A gif shows how fuel breaks interrupted fire paths in the 2020 Creek Fire. The area with a previous prescribed burn is also indicated near the origin of the Creek Fire. Text reads: Forest treatments and fuel breaks helped interrupt the spread of the Creek Fire in the Shaver Lake area, Sept. 2020. \" width=\"400\" height=\"709\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Venton also points out that wildfires are a multifaceted and constantly evolving problem. One solution does not fit all. The solutions themselves are constantly evolving as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In her reporting, she says attention often falls on where mitigation attempts to prevent catastrophic fires have failed. “Of course, some fires are not going to respond to a firebreak,” she explained. “That doesn’t mean it’s not worth it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She points to an analogy of seatbelts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the 1950s, cars were incredibly dangerous and accidents could result in serious injury or death. But after iterations of new safety strategies, cars are now manufactured to include seatbelts, “crumple zones,” and airbags. That shift came about after years of experimenting and testing multiple solutions. 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They have UC Extension agents all over the state who are watching for different things. So the end of August of 2021, the whole state was in at least moderate drought.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:45] \u003c/em>And it’s not just California. Right. I know I’ve heard about low water levels across a lot of the West.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Amy Mayer: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:51] \u003c/em>That’s right. Yeah. The drought conditions extend across Arizona and Nevada, even Oregon. And the heat and low water obviously also have an impact on the Colorado River and everyone who uses water from that river.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Newscaster: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:04] \u003c/em>For the first time ever, the federal government has declared a water shortage on the Colorado River. Two decades of drought means reservoirs that store runoff are depleted and there’s not enough water to meet demand. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Amy Mayer: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:18] \u003c/em>So there’s five stages in that drought monitor. Nearly half of California, plus a large swath of Nevada right now, are in exceptional drought. That’s the top category. That includes six Bay Area counties. Paul Rogers of the San Jose Mercury News pulled out some old data showing that San Francisco is seeing its third driest year since the gold rush and San Jose experienced its driest year in 128 years of record keeping. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:47] \u003c/em>All right, so it’s bad. I know that we’ve been flirting with exceptional drought on and off for many years now, so much so that people, like our question asker Nicholas, bring up this term megadrought. 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The paper came out last year and they looked at a lot of tree records across the southwest. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Abatzoglou: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:35] \u003c/em>We can actually compile trees both that are living today, as well as trees that may have died, but their skeletons remain and sort of piece those together to go back a bit further through time. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Amy Mayer: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:46] \u003c/em>So these tree skeletons led them back thousands of years to droughts during medieval times that lasted for decades. And that helped them conclude the 20th century was anomalous for its lack of droughts in this area. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:59] \u003c/em>Wow. So that really turns everything on its head. 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So Abatzoglou says the water supply coming into this megadrought may have actually been lower than it was in the past when the area entered other megadroughts. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Abatzoglou: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:52] \u003c/em>We have increased population. We have the bountiful Central Valley that is basically all irrigated. That has increased the demand through time, right? A human driven increase in demand. And that makes it easier to actually realize drought impacts. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:09] \u003c/em>That really gets us to a question that we heard from a lot of listeners, which was: long term, can a drier California be home to so many people?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Amy Mayer: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:19] \u003c/em>Well, both Seager and Abatzoglou think so, but how water is used and for what is probably going to need to change some. And of course, they both mentioned farming. 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