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But it has some potential drawbacks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not really designed to take any damage, like at all, so you have to be like really gentle with it,” Murphy says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What I really like about that is steam’s kind of an old tech,” Kravitz tells him. “Steam works. We know that. So, yeah, that’s a really cool idea.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This conversation is part of a larger lesson about developing technologies that reduce planet-heating pollution. \u003ca href=\"https://scholarworks.iu.edu/journals/index.php/thst/article/view/37892/41081\">The lesson\u003c/a> was created by Kravitz, an assistant professor of earth and atmospheric sciences at Indiana University; his colleague Paul Goddard; and Kirstin Milks, DeWayne Murphy’s science teacher at Bloomington High School South in Bloomington, Ind.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62303/as-classes-resume-in-sweltering-heat-many-schools-lack-air-conditioning\">heat waves\u003c/a> and extreme weather becoming more and more common, Milks \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/63120/the-climate-change-lesson-plans-teachers-need-and-dont-have\">wants to empower her students with information\u003c/a> and the creative freedom to dream up \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62224/student-activists-go-to-summer-camp-to-learn-how-to-help-institute-a-green-new-deal-on-their-campuses\">big ideas for a better climate future\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The fact is that climate change is the story of these young people’s lives,” Milks says. “Our students need to know not just the stuff about it that is challenging and difficult, the stuff we hear about in the news, but also they need to see how change can happen. They need to feel like they understand and can actually make a difference in our shared future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Milks \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62349/why-schoolyards-are-a-critical-space-for-teaching-about-and-fighting-extreme-heat-and-climate-change\">teaches her students the basic facts about human-caused climate change\u003c/a>: that burning fossil fuels — like coal, oil and gas — is the biggest single driver of increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Carbon dioxide heats the planet, which has led to more frequent droughts, hurricanes, floods and intense heat waves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kravitz says, “The only permanent solution to stopping that is reducing our greenhouse gas emissions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scientists already know some \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/60978/new-climate-legislation-could-create-9-million-jobs-will-students-be-ready-to-fill-them\">technologies that could help\u003c/a>. Solar and wind energy combined with big batteries are helping the world transition away from oil, coal and gas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Kravitz says the world isn’t moving fast enough. So he and other scientists are studying strategies to temporarily alter the Earth’s climate to reduce the effects of climate change. It’s known as climate engineering, or \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/04/21/1244357506/earth-day-solar-geoengineering-climate-make-sunsets-stardust\">geoengineering\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Climate engineering covers a range of strategies, including reflecting sunlight back into space and \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/12/27/1210928126/oil-climate-change-carbon-capture-removal-direct-air-capture-occidental\">removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere\u003c/a>. But these strategies can also \u003ca href=\"https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/geoengineering-is-not-a-quick-fix-for-the-climate-crisis-new-analysis-shows/\">pose significant risks\u003c/a> — like disruptions to rain patterns and impacts on global crops. Meanwhile, there’s still little regulation over how these technologies might get used.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The people who are going to be voting on whether to [pursue climate engineering], or even leading the charge, are sitting in high school classrooms right now,” Kravitz says. “So if they don’t know what this topic is, that’s a real problem. So that’s why we developed the lesson.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Milks says she isn’t trying to persuade students to embrace climate engineering — rather, she wants to give them the knowledge they need to make informed decisions about it, if and when the time comes.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Students think up wild ideas, like covering the desert in glitter\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Creativity is at the core of this lesson, Milks explains. After students learn the basics of climate engineering, they’re asked to “come up with interesting wild ideas” to slow global warming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/1716x1080+0+0/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fce%2Fe2%2Fa59c996f48cea345acafebf02140%2Fcelberfeld-teacher-student.jpg\" alt=\"High school freshman DeWayne Murphy consults with Milks, his science teacher, on a classroom experiment.\">\u003cfigcaption>High school freshman DeWayne Murphy consults with Kirstin Milks, his science teacher, on a classroom experiment. \u003ccite> (Chris Elberfeld/WFYI)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At first, no idea is too out there, says Goddard, an assistant research scientist at Indiana University who helped develop the lesson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As we progress along throughout the lessons, then we add more details, more constraints to their designs,” Goddard says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the first round of brainstorming, students imagined a solar-powered helicopter; artificial trees that store rainwater to help fight wildfires; and lots of ways to reflect light back into the atmosphere, like covering the desert in shiny glitter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Next, students are asked to consider the potential limitations and risks to their ideas. Take glitter in the desert, for example:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“How are we going to make sure that the glitter doesn’t get eaten by the rock pocket mouse … or like snakes and stuff?” Milks asks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The student suggests making the glitter large and smooth enough so it won’t be eaten by animals or otherwise harm them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For their final assignment, students present their concepts — including their anticipated benefits and risks — to Kravitz, Goddard and other scientists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>High school junior Campbell Brown has an idea for a flying air filter that sucks carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and turns it into a harmless byproduct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’ll decrease the amount of greenhouse gases that are in the air,” she explains during her presentation. “The risks could be that it just doesn’t work the way I want it to.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kravitz is impressed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So you want to know something? It does work,” he tells Brown. “The waste product that you get out of it is baking soda, essentially. So yeah, it works, it just can’t be widely deployed right now because it’s too expensive.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Fostering climate optimism\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Brown is thrilled that her idea is something scientists are currently studying, especially because she didn’t know much about climate change before this lesson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/1568x882+0+99/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F53%2F26%2Fa5d07ce44635b84255c97599cc1e%2Fcelberfeld-students-chat.jpg\" alt=\"Ben Kravitz, an assistant professor of earth and atmospheric sciences at Indiana University, chats with high school students DeWayne Murphy and Emerald Yee during a class at Bloomington High School South.\">\u003cfigcaption>Ben Kravitz, an assistant professor of earth and atmospheric sciences at Indiana University, chats with high school students DeWayne Murphy and Emerald Yee during a class at Bloomington High School South. \u003ccite> (Chris Elberfeld/WFYI)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She was saddened to learn how humans have contributed to climate change and its effects on the planet, but she says she’s leaving this lesson with a newfound \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62894/how-to-inspire-climate-hope-in-kids-get-their-hands-dirty\">sense of hope\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because rather than the old generation leaving something broken for us to fix, we’re also getting help from that generation. And so that way, we’re all helping each other out and fixing what we have caused,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Emerald Yee, a senior in Milks’ class, has been concerned about climate change for a while. She has a family member with a chronic health condition that’s exacerbated by heat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So for me, I’m mainly just worried about [their] safety when it comes to climate change and global warming,” Yee says. She says this lesson gave her the tools to “really think about climate change and how we can change it and make it better for not just our generation, but the younger generations, our younger siblings, or even our kids and grandkids.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Kravitz, fostering climate optimism is a big part of this lesson. And he says hearing students’ ideas for solutions always makes him feel better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The neat thing about seeing all of these ideas come out of the classroom is it’s not \u003cem>I can’t do it\u003c/em>. It’s \u003cem>we can do it\u003c/em>. Humans, when they get together, can do amazing things. And that’s what gives me hope.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Copyright 2024 NPR. 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But it has some potential drawbacks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not really designed to take any damage, like at all, so you have to be like really gentle with it,” Murphy says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What I really like about that is steam’s kind of an old tech,” Kravitz tells him. “Steam works. We know that. So, yeah, that’s a really cool idea.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This conversation is part of a larger lesson about developing technologies that reduce planet-heating pollution. \u003ca href=\"https://scholarworks.iu.edu/journals/index.php/thst/article/view/37892/41081\">The lesson\u003c/a> was created by Kravitz, an assistant professor of earth and atmospheric sciences at Indiana University; his colleague Paul Goddard; and Kirstin Milks, DeWayne Murphy’s science teacher at Bloomington High School South in Bloomington, Ind.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62303/as-classes-resume-in-sweltering-heat-many-schools-lack-air-conditioning\">heat waves\u003c/a> and extreme weather becoming more and more common, Milks \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/63120/the-climate-change-lesson-plans-teachers-need-and-dont-have\">wants to empower her students with information\u003c/a> and the creative freedom to dream up \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62224/student-activists-go-to-summer-camp-to-learn-how-to-help-institute-a-green-new-deal-on-their-campuses\">big ideas for a better climate future\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The fact is that climate change is the story of these young people’s lives,” Milks says. “Our students need to know not just the stuff about it that is challenging and difficult, the stuff we hear about in the news, but also they need to see how change can happen. They need to feel like they understand and can actually make a difference in our shared future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Milks \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62349/why-schoolyards-are-a-critical-space-for-teaching-about-and-fighting-extreme-heat-and-climate-change\">teaches her students the basic facts about human-caused climate change\u003c/a>: that burning fossil fuels — like coal, oil and gas — is the biggest single driver of increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Carbon dioxide heats the planet, which has led to more frequent droughts, hurricanes, floods and intense heat waves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kravitz says, “The only permanent solution to stopping that is reducing our greenhouse gas emissions.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scientists already know some \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/60978/new-climate-legislation-could-create-9-million-jobs-will-students-be-ready-to-fill-them\">technologies that could help\u003c/a>. Solar and wind energy combined with big batteries are helping the world transition away from oil, coal and gas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Kravitz says the world isn’t moving fast enough. So he and other scientists are studying strategies to temporarily alter the Earth’s climate to reduce the effects of climate change. It’s known as climate engineering, or \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/04/21/1244357506/earth-day-solar-geoengineering-climate-make-sunsets-stardust\">geoengineering\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Climate engineering covers a range of strategies, including reflecting sunlight back into space and \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/12/27/1210928126/oil-climate-change-carbon-capture-removal-direct-air-capture-occidental\">removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere\u003c/a>. But these strategies can also \u003ca href=\"https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/geoengineering-is-not-a-quick-fix-for-the-climate-crisis-new-analysis-shows/\">pose significant risks\u003c/a> — like disruptions to rain patterns and impacts on global crops. Meanwhile, there’s still little regulation over how these technologies might get used.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The people who are going to be voting on whether to [pursue climate engineering], or even leading the charge, are sitting in high school classrooms right now,” Kravitz says. “So if they don’t know what this topic is, that’s a real problem. So that’s why we developed the lesson.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Milks says she isn’t trying to persuade students to embrace climate engineering — rather, she wants to give them the knowledge they need to make informed decisions about it, if and when the time comes.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Students think up wild ideas, like covering the desert in glitter\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Creativity is at the core of this lesson, Milks explains. After students learn the basics of climate engineering, they’re asked to “come up with interesting wild ideas” to slow global warming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/1716x1080+0+0/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fce%2Fe2%2Fa59c996f48cea345acafebf02140%2Fcelberfeld-teacher-student.jpg\" alt=\"High school freshman DeWayne Murphy consults with Milks, his science teacher, on a classroom experiment.\">\u003cfigcaption>High school freshman DeWayne Murphy consults with Kirstin Milks, his science teacher, on a classroom experiment. \u003ccite> (Chris Elberfeld/WFYI)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At first, no idea is too out there, says Goddard, an assistant research scientist at Indiana University who helped develop the lesson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As we progress along throughout the lessons, then we add more details, more constraints to their designs,” Goddard says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the first round of brainstorming, students imagined a solar-powered helicopter; artificial trees that store rainwater to help fight wildfires; and lots of ways to reflect light back into the atmosphere, like covering the desert in shiny glitter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Next, students are asked to consider the potential limitations and risks to their ideas. Take glitter in the desert, for example:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“How are we going to make sure that the glitter doesn’t get eaten by the rock pocket mouse … or like snakes and stuff?” Milks asks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The student suggests making the glitter large and smooth enough so it won’t be eaten by animals or otherwise harm them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For their final assignment, students present their concepts — including their anticipated benefits and risks — to Kravitz, Goddard and other scientists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>High school junior Campbell Brown has an idea for a flying air filter that sucks carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and turns it into a harmless byproduct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’ll decrease the amount of greenhouse gases that are in the air,” she explains during her presentation. “The risks could be that it just doesn’t work the way I want it to.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kravitz is impressed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So you want to know something? It does work,” he tells Brown. “The waste product that you get out of it is baking soda, essentially. So yeah, it works, it just can’t be widely deployed right now because it’s too expensive.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Fostering climate optimism\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Brown is thrilled that her idea is something scientists are currently studying, especially because she didn’t know much about climate change before this lesson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/1568x882+0+99/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F53%2F26%2Fa5d07ce44635b84255c97599cc1e%2Fcelberfeld-students-chat.jpg\" alt=\"Ben Kravitz, an assistant professor of earth and atmospheric sciences at Indiana University, chats with high school students DeWayne Murphy and Emerald Yee during a class at Bloomington High School South.\">\u003cfigcaption>Ben Kravitz, an assistant professor of earth and atmospheric sciences at Indiana University, chats with high school students DeWayne Murphy and Emerald Yee during a class at Bloomington High School South. \u003ccite> (Chris Elberfeld/WFYI)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She was saddened to learn how humans have contributed to climate change and its effects on the planet, but she says she’s leaving this lesson with a newfound \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62894/how-to-inspire-climate-hope-in-kids-get-their-hands-dirty\">sense of hope\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because rather than the old generation leaving something broken for us to fix, we’re also getting help from that generation. And so that way, we’re all helping each other out and fixing what we have caused,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Emerald Yee, a senior in Milks’ class, has been concerned about climate change for a while. She has a family member with a chronic health condition that’s exacerbated by heat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So for me, I’m mainly just worried about [their] safety when it comes to climate change and global warming,” Yee says. She says this lesson gave her the tools to “really think about climate change and how we can change it and make it better for not just our generation, but the younger generations, our younger siblings, or even our kids and grandkids.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Kravitz, fostering climate optimism is a big part of this lesson. And he says hearing students’ ideas for solutions always makes him feel better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The neat thing about seeing all of these ideas come out of the classroom is it’s not \u003cem>I can’t do it\u003c/em>. It’s \u003cem>we can do it\u003c/em>. Humans, when they get together, can do amazing things. And that’s what gives me hope.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Copyright 2024 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/mindshift/64385/in-the-face-of-climate-change-science-class-can-help-students-dream-up-a-better-future","authors":["byline_mindshift_64385"],"categories":["mindshift_21508","mindshift_193"],"tags":["mindshift_21124","mindshift_551","mindshift_47"],"featImg":"mindshift_64386","label":"mindshift"},"mindshift_63429":{"type":"posts","id":"mindshift_63429","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"mindshift","id":"63429","score":null,"sort":[1711468472000]},"parent":0,"labelTerm":{"site":"mindshift"},"blocks":[],"publishDate":1711468472,"format":"standard","title":"How a Second-Grade Teacher is Using the Solar Eclipse to Inspire Her Students","headTitle":"How a Second-Grade Teacher is Using the Solar Eclipse to Inspire Her Students | KQED","content":"\u003cp>It’s a sunny March afternoon at Winchester Village Elementary School in Indianapolis, and teacher Natasha Cummings is leading her class in a brand new lesson. It’s the first time she’s teaching it – and also likely the last.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The second graders audibly gasp when Cummings explains the day’s activity: They’ll be simulating a total solar eclipse using the real sun, an inflatable globe and a moon made out of a play dough ball mounted on a stick.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On April 8, a narrow strip of North America will experience a total solar eclipse, in which the moon entirely covers the sun, darkening the sky so that only the sun’s corona, a ghostly white ring, will be visible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Indianapolis is one of several cities in the path of totality. The last time that happened was over 800 years ago, and it won’t happen again until 2153.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For many of Cummings’ students, this event is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Cummings hopes learning about and witnessing the eclipse will inspire her students, and get them excited about science.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s an experience she expects them to remember for the rest of their lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is a story you’re gonna be able to tell,” she reflects before class.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You, as a second grader, you experienced this totality.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a grassy area outside the school, Cummings’ eclipse simulation begins: Students take turns holding the inflatable globes, and casting a shadow with their play dough moons. Cummings directs them to aim the shadow over the spot on the globe where Indianapolis would be. It’s a little chaotic, but the students quickly figure out how to properly position the moon’s shadow over their hometown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Good job guys, you’re really smart,” a student says to his friends.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How an eclipse can inspire a career in the sciences\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Thomas Hockey, a professor of astronomy at the University of Northern Iowa, remembers his first eclipse experience fondly. On March 7, 1970, when Hockey was 10 years old, he witnessed a partial solar eclipse outside his home in Angola, Ind. — a two-and-a-half hour drive north of Indianapolis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_63432\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-63432\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Natasha Cummings also led her fifth graders through a solar eclipse lesson. The older kids’ eclipse simulation incorporated measurements. \u003ccite>(Kaiti Sullivan for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It was nearly a year after the Apollo program had put the first person on the moon, and Hockey’s interest in space was already developing. But he credits this partial eclipse as one of the reasons he chose to study astronomy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was mesmerizing, as more and more of the sun disappeared, producing an odd shape,” Hockey recalls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It also sparked a fascination with eclipses. Hockey would go on to become what’s called an umbraphile — someone who chases eclipses all over the world — and he recently published a book about the history of eclipse chasers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hockey says he didn’t learn about solar eclipses when he was in grade school. He thinks the fact that elementary school teachers like Cummings are now teaching about them is an indication that science education has improved since he was a child.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_63433\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-63433\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cummings (left) walks fifth graders Donavan Clarke (center) and Kevin Trinidad Cuautle through a solar eclipse simulation using a ping pong ball to represent the moon, and a bright spotlight for the sun. \u003ccite>(Kaiti Sullivan for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It’s also an opportunity to show kids that science doesn’t just happen behind closed doors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Science is not done by old, gray-haired people in lab coats, necessarily. Citizens can participate in it. It’s not a magic black box, it’s all around us,” Hockey says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The April 8 total solar eclipse will be Hockey’s ninth. He plans to bring a group of undergraduate students with him to experience totality in his home state of Indiana. He says some of them plan to become science teachers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And so they will talk about eclipses to their students, and perhaps we will have a new generation of astronomers inspired by eclipses,” Hockey says.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Another important lesson: eclipse safety\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>For Cummings, teaching her students how to view the eclipse safely is a top priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The only glasses that you should use are the solar eclipse glasses to look at the sun safely,” she tells her class.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Exposure to the sun without proper protection \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/03/18/1238944697/get-ready-april-8-eclipse-glasses-eye-safety-damage-protection-doctors#:~:text=Looking%20at%20any%20part%20of,offices%20with%20significant%20eye%20damage.\">can permanently damage\u003c/a> the eye’s retina. But during totality, which lasts only a few minutes, you won’t see the sun’s corona with those eclipse glasses on. Totality is the only part of the eclipse that’s safe to look at without them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_63431\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-63431\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Second graders Hanah Sung, Izaac Stuck and Amaurie Robinson simulate an eclipse by casting a shadow with a play dough moon on an inflatable globe. Their teacher, Natasha Cummings, directs them to aim the shadow over the spot on the globe where Indianapolis would be. \u003ccite>(Kaiti Sullivan for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Outside, her students take turns trying the glasses on and looking up at the sun. They shriek with excitement as they gaze at the unfamiliar orb.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you look up and see that orange thing that’s right there — it looks like a street light,” says second grader Ja’Aire Tate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cummings’ district, Perry Township Schools, is one of several Indianapolis school systems that chose to make April 8 a remote learning day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The district says the decision is an effort to keep kids safe: In Indianapolis, the eclipse will become visible around 1:50 p.m., and totality will begin at about 3:06 p.m. — right around the time of school dismissal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Traffic will be pretty backed up… we don’t want to have buses and cars stuck on the road,” says Elizabeth Choi, director of communications for Perry Township Schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cummings tells her students they can ask their parents to purchase eclipse glasses online or at local stores, like Kroger. Or, she says, they can watch a live-stream of the eclipse on YouTube.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Hockey hopes these kids do get a chance to go outside during the eclipse. Even without eclipse glasses, he says they can make \u003ca href=\"https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/learn/project/how-to-make-a-pinhole-camera/\">a pinhole viewer\u003c/a> with a few common household supplies that will allow them to view the event safely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says, “I pretty much guarantee that those children in the path of totality, who have been guided by their teachers or parents to observe the eclipse and do so safely, will remember it the rest of their lives.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2024 WFYI Public Media. 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It’s the first time she’s teaching it – and also likely the last.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The second graders audibly gasp when Cummings explains the day’s activity: They’ll be simulating a total solar eclipse using the real sun, an inflatable globe and a moon made out of a play dough ball mounted on a stick.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On April 8, a narrow strip of North America will experience a total solar eclipse, in which the moon entirely covers the sun, darkening the sky so that only the sun’s corona, a ghostly white ring, will be visible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Indianapolis is one of several cities in the path of totality. The last time that happened was over 800 years ago, and it won’t happen again until 2153.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For many of Cummings’ students, this event is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Cummings hopes learning about and witnessing the eclipse will inspire her students, and get them excited about science.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s an experience she expects them to remember for the rest of their lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is a story you’re gonna be able to tell,” she reflects before class.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You, as a second grader, you experienced this totality.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a grassy area outside the school, Cummings’ eclipse simulation begins: Students take turns holding the inflatable globes, and casting a shadow with their play dough moons. Cummings directs them to aim the shadow over the spot on the globe where Indianapolis would be. It’s a little chaotic, but the students quickly figure out how to properly position the moon’s shadow over their hometown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Good job guys, you’re really smart,” a student says to his friends.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How an eclipse can inspire a career in the sciences\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Thomas Hockey, a professor of astronomy at the University of Northern Iowa, remembers his first eclipse experience fondly. On March 7, 1970, when Hockey was 10 years old, he witnessed a partial solar eclipse outside his home in Angola, Ind. — a two-and-a-half hour drive north of Indianapolis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_63432\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-63432\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_01_slide-91c7f299191f16422a588ea678948908356138da-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Natasha Cummings also led her fifth graders through a solar eclipse lesson. The older kids’ eclipse simulation incorporated measurements. \u003ccite>(Kaiti Sullivan for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It was nearly a year after the Apollo program had put the first person on the moon, and Hockey’s interest in space was already developing. But he credits this partial eclipse as one of the reasons he chose to study astronomy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was mesmerizing, as more and more of the sun disappeared, producing an odd shape,” Hockey recalls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It also sparked a fascination with eclipses. Hockey would go on to become what’s called an umbraphile — someone who chases eclipses all over the world — and he recently published a book about the history of eclipse chasers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hockey says he didn’t learn about solar eclipses when he was in grade school. He thinks the fact that elementary school teachers like Cummings are now teaching about them is an indication that science education has improved since he was a child.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_63433\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-63433\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-768x512.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_41_slide-04d3b65735391053d1e81172d5cae9059fef837b-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cummings (left) walks fifth graders Donavan Clarke (center) and Kevin Trinidad Cuautle through a solar eclipse simulation using a ping pong ball to represent the moon, and a bright spotlight for the sun. \u003ccite>(Kaiti Sullivan for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It’s also an opportunity to show kids that science doesn’t just happen behind closed doors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Science is not done by old, gray-haired people in lab coats, necessarily. Citizens can participate in it. It’s not a magic black box, it’s all around us,” Hockey says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The April 8 total solar eclipse will be Hockey’s ninth. He plans to bring a group of undergraduate students with him to experience totality in his home state of Indiana. He says some of them plan to become science teachers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And so they will talk about eclipses to their students, and perhaps we will have a new generation of astronomers inspired by eclipses,” Hockey says.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Another important lesson: eclipse safety\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>For Cummings, teaching her students how to view the eclipse safely is a top priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The only glasses that you should use are the solar eclipse glasses to look at the sun safely,” she tells her class.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Exposure to the sun without proper protection \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/03/18/1238944697/get-ready-april-8-eclipse-glasses-eye-safety-damage-protection-doctors#:~:text=Looking%20at%20any%20part%20of,offices%20with%20significant%20eye%20damage.\">can permanently damage\u003c/a> the eye’s retina. But during totality, which lasts only a few minutes, you won’t see the sun’s corona with those eclipse glasses on. Totality is the only part of the eclipse that’s safe to look at without them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_63431\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-63431\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-768x576.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2024/03/solareclipseeducation_39-23298c08e6b5cba7b2174a2433e63841201c49c5-1920x1440.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Second graders Hanah Sung, Izaac Stuck and Amaurie Robinson simulate an eclipse by casting a shadow with a play dough moon on an inflatable globe. Their teacher, Natasha Cummings, directs them to aim the shadow over the spot on the globe where Indianapolis would be. \u003ccite>(Kaiti Sullivan for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Outside, her students take turns trying the glasses on and looking up at the sun. They shriek with excitement as they gaze at the unfamiliar orb.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you look up and see that orange thing that’s right there — it looks like a street light,” says second grader Ja’Aire Tate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cummings’ district, Perry Township Schools, is one of several Indianapolis school systems that chose to make April 8 a remote learning day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The district says the decision is an effort to keep kids safe: In Indianapolis, the eclipse will become visible around 1:50 p.m., and totality will begin at about 3:06 p.m. — right around the time of school dismissal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Traffic will be pretty backed up… we don’t want to have buses and cars stuck on the road,” says Elizabeth Choi, director of communications for Perry Township Schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cummings tells her students they can ask their parents to purchase eclipse glasses online or at local stores, like Kroger. Or, she says, they can watch a live-stream of the eclipse on YouTube.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Hockey hopes these kids do get a chance to go outside during the eclipse. Even without eclipse glasses, he says they can make \u003ca href=\"https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/learn/project/how-to-make-a-pinhole-camera/\">a pinhole viewer\u003c/a> with a few common household supplies that will allow them to view the event safely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says, “I pretty much guarantee that those children in the path of totality, who have been guided by their teachers or parents to observe the eclipse and do so safely, will remember it the rest of their lives.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2024 WFYI Public Media. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.wfyi.org\">WFYI Public Media\u003c/a>.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=How+an+Indianapolis+teacher+is+using+the+solar+eclipse+to+inspire+her+students&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/mindshift/63429/how-a-second-grade-teacher-is-using-the-solar-eclipse-to-inspire-her-students","authors":["byline_mindshift_63429"],"categories":["mindshift_193"],"tags":["mindshift_551","mindshift_21904","mindshift_47"],"featImg":"mindshift_63430","label":"mindshift"},"mindshift_63315":{"type":"posts","id":"mindshift_63315","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"mindshift","id":"63315","score":null,"sort":[1710151256000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"learning-science-might-help-kids-read-better","title":"Learning Science Might Help Kids Read Better","publishDate":1710151256,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Learning Science Might Help Kids Read Better | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"mindshift"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A growing chorus of education researchers, pundits and “science of reading” advocates are calling for young children to be taught more about \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/60793/gholdy-muhammad-wants-teachers-to-see-the-world-as-curriculum\">the world around them\u003c/a>. It’s an indirect way of teaching reading comprehension. The theory is that what we grasp from what we read depends on whether we can hook it to concepts and topics that we already know. Natalie Wexler’s 2019 best-selling book, \u003c/span>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://nataliewexler.com/the-knowledge-gap/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Knowledge Gap\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, championed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/54452/why-deeply-diving-into-content-could-be-the-key-to-reading-comprehension\">knowledge-building curricula\u003c/a> and more schools around the country, from \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.baltimorecp.org/resources/core-knowledge-lessons/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Baltimore\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/reading-comprehension-hinges-on-building-knowledge-new-curricula-aim-to-help/2024/01\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Michigan\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.libertycommon.org/about/news-and-events/colorado-core-knowledge-network\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Colorado\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, are adopting these content-filled lesson plans to teach geography, astronomy and even art history. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Makers of knowledge-building curricula say their lessons are based on research, but the truth is that there is scant classroom evidence that building knowledge first increases future reading comprehension. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In 2023, University of Virginia researchers promoted \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://edworkingpapers.com/index.php/ai23-755\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">a study of Colorado charter schools that had adopted E.D. Hirsch’s Core Knowledge curriculum\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. Children who had won lotteries to attend these charter schools had higher reading scores than students who lost the lotteries. But it was \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/61475/what-the-latest-reading-study-thats-getting-a-lot-of-buzz-says-and-where-its-evidence-falls-short\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">impossible to tell whether the Core Knowledge curriculum itself made the difference\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> or if the boost to reading scores could be attributed to other things that these charter schools were doing, such as hiring great teachers and training them well. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">More importantly, the students at these charter schools were largely from middle and upper middle class families. And what we really want to know is whether knowledge building at school helps poorer children, who are less likely to be exposed to the world through travel, live performances and other experiences that money can buy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A new study, published online on Feb. 26, 2024, in the peer-reviewed journal Developmental Psychology, now provides stronger causal evidence that \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://psycnet.apa.org/fulltext/2024-55174-001.html\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">building background knowledge can translate into higher reading achievement for low-income children\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. The study took place in an unnamed, large urban school district in North Carolina where most of the students are Black and Hispanic and 40% are from low-income families.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In 2019, a group of researchers, led by James Kim, a professor at Harvard University’s Graduate School of Education, randomly selected 15 of the district’s 30 elementary schools to teach first graders special \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.harvard.edu/jameskim/pages/research-summary\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">knowledge-building lessons\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> for three years, through third grade. Kim, a reading specialist, and other researchers had developed two sets of multi-year lesson plans, one for science and one for social studies. Students were also given related books to read during the summer. (\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This research was funded by the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, which is among the many funders of The Hechinger Report.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">)\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The remaining 15 elementary schools in the district continued to teach their students as usual, still delivering some social studies and science instruction, but not these special lessons. Regular reading class was untouched in the experiment. All 30 schools were using the same reading curriculum, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.edreports.org/reports/overview/el-education-k-5-language-arts-2017\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Expeditionary Learning\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, which follows science of reading principles and teaches phonics. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">COVID-19 hit in the middle of the experiment. When schools shut down in the spring of 2020, the researchers scrapped the planned social studies units for second graders. In 2021, students were still not attending school in person. The researchers revised their science curriculum and decided to give an abridged online version to all 30 schools instead of just half. In the end, children in the original 15 schools received one year of social studies lessons and three years of science lessons compared to only one year of science in the comparison group. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Still, approximately 1,000 students who had received the special science and social studies lessons in first and second grades outperformed the 1,000 students who got only the abbreviated online science in third grade. Their reading and math scores on the North Carolina state tests were higher not only in third grade, but also in fourth grade, more than a year after the knowledge-building experiment ended. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It wasn’t a huge boost to reading achievement, but it was significant and long-lasting. It cost about $400 per student in instructional materials and teacher training.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Timothy Shanahan, a literacy expert and a professor emeritus at the University of Illinois at Chicago who was not involved in this research or the development of these science lessons, praised the study. “The study makes it very clear (as have a few others recently) that it is possible to combine reading with social studies and science curriculum in powerful ways that can improve both literacy and content knowledge,” he said by email. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Connecting background knowledge to reading comprehension is not a new idea. A \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0022-0663.80.1.16\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">famous 1987 experiment\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> documented that children who were weaker readers but knowledgeable about baseball understood a reading passage about baseball better than children who were stronger readers but didn’t know much about the sport. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Obviously, it’s not realistic for schools to attempt to familiarize students with every topic they might encounter in a book. And there is disagreement among researchers about how general knowledge of the world translates into higher reading performance.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kim thinks that a knowledge-building curriculum doesn’t need to teach many topics. Random facts, he says, are not important. He argues for depth instead of breadth. He says it’s important to construct a thoughtful sequence of lessons over the years, allowing students to see how the same patterns crop up in different ways. He calls these patterns “schemas.” In this experiment, for example, students learned about animal survival in first grade and dinosaur extinction in second grade. In third grade, that evolved into a more general understanding of how living systems function. By the end of third grade, many students were able to see how the idea of functioning systems can apply to inanimate objects, such as skyscrapers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s the patterns that can be analogized to new circumstances, Kim explained. Once a student is familiar with the template, a new text on an unfamiliar topic can be easier to grasp.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kim and his team also paired the science lessons with clusters of vocabulary words that were likely to come up again in the future – almost like wine pairings with a meal. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The full benefits of this kind of knowledge building didn’t materialize until after several years of coordinated instruction. In the first years, students were only able to transfer their ability to comprehend text on one topic to another if the topics were very similar. This study indicates that as their content knowledge deepened, their ability to generalize increased as well.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s a lot going on here: a spiraling curriculum that revisits and builds upon themes year after year; an explicit teaching of underlying patterns; new vocabulary words, and a progression from the simple to the complex. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There are many versions of knowledge-rich curricula and this one isn’t about exposing students to a classical canon. It remains unclear if all knowledge-building curricula work as well. Other programs sometimes replace the main reading class with knowledge-building lessons. This one didn’t tinker with regular reading class. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The biggest challenge with the approach used in the North Carolina experiment is that it requires schools to coordinate lessons across grades. That’s hard. Some teachers may want to keep their favorite units on, say, growing a bean plant, and may bristle at the idea of throwing away their old lesson plans.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s also worth noting that students’ math scores improved as much as their reading scores did in this North Carolina experiment. It might seem surprising that a literacy intervention would also boost math. But math also requires a lot of reading; the state’s math tests were full of word problems. Any successful effort to boost reading skills is also likely to have positive spillovers into math, researchers explained.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">School leaders are under great pressure to boost test scores. To do that, they’ve often doubled time spent on reading and cut science and social studies classes. Studies like this one suggest that those cuts may have been costly, further undermining reading achievement instead of improving it. As researchers discover more about the science of reading, it may well turn out to be that more time on science itself is what kids need to become good readers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This story about \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/proof-points-learning-science-might-help-kids-read-better/\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">background knowledge\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> was written by Jill Barshay and produced by \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Hechinger Report\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, a nonprofit, independent news organization focused on inequality and innovation in education. Sign up for the \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/proofpoints/\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Proof Points newsletter\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A recent study provides stronger causal evidence that building background knowledge can translate into higher reading achievement for low-income children.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1718651863,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":1454},"headData":{"title":"Learning Science Might Help Kids Read Better | KQED","description":"A recent study provides stronger causal evidence that building background knowledge can translate into higher reading achievement for low-income children.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","socialDescription":"A recent study provides stronger causal evidence that building background knowledge can translate into higher reading achievement for low-income children.","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Learning Science Might Help Kids Read Better","datePublished":"2024-03-11T03:00:56-07:00","dateModified":"2024-06-17T12:17:43-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"Jill Barshay, \u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/\" target=\"_blank\">The Hechinger Report\u003c/a>","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/mindshift/63315/learning-science-might-help-kids-read-better","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A growing chorus of education researchers, pundits and “science of reading” advocates are calling for young children to be taught more about \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/60793/gholdy-muhammad-wants-teachers-to-see-the-world-as-curriculum\">the world around them\u003c/a>. It’s an indirect way of teaching reading comprehension. The theory is that what we grasp from what we read depends on whether we can hook it to concepts and topics that we already know. Natalie Wexler’s 2019 best-selling book, \u003c/span>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://nataliewexler.com/the-knowledge-gap/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Knowledge Gap\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, championed \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/54452/why-deeply-diving-into-content-could-be-the-key-to-reading-comprehension\">knowledge-building curricula\u003c/a> and more schools around the country, from \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.baltimorecp.org/resources/core-knowledge-lessons/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Baltimore\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/reading-comprehension-hinges-on-building-knowledge-new-curricula-aim-to-help/2024/01\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Michigan\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.libertycommon.org/about/news-and-events/colorado-core-knowledge-network\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Colorado\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, are adopting these content-filled lesson plans to teach geography, astronomy and even art history. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Makers of knowledge-building curricula say their lessons are based on research, but the truth is that there is scant classroom evidence that building knowledge first increases future reading comprehension. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In 2023, University of Virginia researchers promoted \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://edworkingpapers.com/index.php/ai23-755\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">a study of Colorado charter schools that had adopted E.D. Hirsch’s Core Knowledge curriculum\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. Children who had won lotteries to attend these charter schools had higher reading scores than students who lost the lotteries. But it was \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/61475/what-the-latest-reading-study-thats-getting-a-lot-of-buzz-says-and-where-its-evidence-falls-short\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">impossible to tell whether the Core Knowledge curriculum itself made the difference\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> or if the boost to reading scores could be attributed to other things that these charter schools were doing, such as hiring great teachers and training them well. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">More importantly, the students at these charter schools were largely from middle and upper middle class families. And what we really want to know is whether knowledge building at school helps poorer children, who are less likely to be exposed to the world through travel, live performances and other experiences that money can buy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A new study, published online on Feb. 26, 2024, in the peer-reviewed journal Developmental Psychology, now provides stronger causal evidence that \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://psycnet.apa.org/fulltext/2024-55174-001.html\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">building background knowledge can translate into higher reading achievement for low-income children\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. The study took place in an unnamed, large urban school district in North Carolina where most of the students are Black and Hispanic and 40% are from low-income families.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In 2019, a group of researchers, led by James Kim, a professor at Harvard University’s Graduate School of Education, randomly selected 15 of the district’s 30 elementary schools to teach first graders special \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.harvard.edu/jameskim/pages/research-summary\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">knowledge-building lessons\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> for three years, through third grade. Kim, a reading specialist, and other researchers had developed two sets of multi-year lesson plans, one for science and one for social studies. Students were also given related books to read during the summer. (\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This research was funded by the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, which is among the many funders of The Hechinger Report.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">)\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The remaining 15 elementary schools in the district continued to teach their students as usual, still delivering some social studies and science instruction, but not these special lessons. Regular reading class was untouched in the experiment. All 30 schools were using the same reading curriculum, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.edreports.org/reports/overview/el-education-k-5-language-arts-2017\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Expeditionary Learning\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, which follows science of reading principles and teaches phonics. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">COVID-19 hit in the middle of the experiment. When schools shut down in the spring of 2020, the researchers scrapped the planned social studies units for second graders. In 2021, students were still not attending school in person. The researchers revised their science curriculum and decided to give an abridged online version to all 30 schools instead of just half. In the end, children in the original 15 schools received one year of social studies lessons and three years of science lessons compared to only one year of science in the comparison group. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Still, approximately 1,000 students who had received the special science and social studies lessons in first and second grades outperformed the 1,000 students who got only the abbreviated online science in third grade. Their reading and math scores on the North Carolina state tests were higher not only in third grade, but also in fourth grade, more than a year after the knowledge-building experiment ended. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It wasn’t a huge boost to reading achievement, but it was significant and long-lasting. It cost about $400 per student in instructional materials and teacher training.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Timothy Shanahan, a literacy expert and a professor emeritus at the University of Illinois at Chicago who was not involved in this research or the development of these science lessons, praised the study. “The study makes it very clear (as have a few others recently) that it is possible to combine reading with social studies and science curriculum in powerful ways that can improve both literacy and content knowledge,” he said by email. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Connecting background knowledge to reading comprehension is not a new idea. A \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0022-0663.80.1.16\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">famous 1987 experiment\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> documented that children who were weaker readers but knowledgeable about baseball understood a reading passage about baseball better than children who were stronger readers but didn’t know much about the sport. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Obviously, it’s not realistic for schools to attempt to familiarize students with every topic they might encounter in a book. And there is disagreement among researchers about how general knowledge of the world translates into higher reading performance.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kim thinks that a knowledge-building curriculum doesn’t need to teach many topics. Random facts, he says, are not important. He argues for depth instead of breadth. He says it’s important to construct a thoughtful sequence of lessons over the years, allowing students to see how the same patterns crop up in different ways. He calls these patterns “schemas.” In this experiment, for example, students learned about animal survival in first grade and dinosaur extinction in second grade. In third grade, that evolved into a more general understanding of how living systems function. By the end of third grade, many students were able to see how the idea of functioning systems can apply to inanimate objects, such as skyscrapers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s the patterns that can be analogized to new circumstances, Kim explained. Once a student is familiar with the template, a new text on an unfamiliar topic can be easier to grasp.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kim and his team also paired the science lessons with clusters of vocabulary words that were likely to come up again in the future – almost like wine pairings with a meal. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The full benefits of this kind of knowledge building didn’t materialize until after several years of coordinated instruction. In the first years, students were only able to transfer their ability to comprehend text on one topic to another if the topics were very similar. This study indicates that as their content knowledge deepened, their ability to generalize increased as well.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s a lot going on here: a spiraling curriculum that revisits and builds upon themes year after year; an explicit teaching of underlying patterns; new vocabulary words, and a progression from the simple to the complex. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There are many versions of knowledge-rich curricula and this one isn’t about exposing students to a classical canon. It remains unclear if all knowledge-building curricula work as well. Other programs sometimes replace the main reading class with knowledge-building lessons. This one didn’t tinker with regular reading class. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The biggest challenge with the approach used in the North Carolina experiment is that it requires schools to coordinate lessons across grades. That’s hard. Some teachers may want to keep their favorite units on, say, growing a bean plant, and may bristle at the idea of throwing away their old lesson plans.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s also worth noting that students’ math scores improved as much as their reading scores did in this North Carolina experiment. It might seem surprising that a literacy intervention would also boost math. But math also requires a lot of reading; the state’s math tests were full of word problems. Any successful effort to boost reading skills is also likely to have positive spillovers into math, researchers explained.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">School leaders are under great pressure to boost test scores. To do that, they’ve often doubled time spent on reading and cut science and social studies classes. Studies like this one suggest that those cuts may have been costly, further undermining reading achievement instead of improving it. As researchers discover more about the science of reading, it may well turn out to be that more time on science itself is what kids need to become good readers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This story about \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/proof-points-learning-science-might-help-kids-read-better/\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">background knowledge\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> was written by Jill Barshay and produced by \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Hechinger Report\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, a nonprofit, independent news organization focused on inequality and innovation in education. Sign up for the \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/proofpoints/\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Proof Points newsletter\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/mindshift/63315/learning-science-might-help-kids-read-better","authors":["byline_mindshift_63315"],"categories":["mindshift_21504","mindshift_193"],"tags":["mindshift_21292","mindshift_444","mindshift_550","mindshift_20713","mindshift_21616","mindshift_20615","mindshift_47"],"featImg":"mindshift_63317","label":"mindshift"},"mindshift_62724":{"type":"posts","id":"mindshift_62724","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"mindshift","id":"62724","score":null,"sort":[1699873234000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"professors-say-high-school-math-doesnt-prepare-most-students-for-their-college-majors","title":"Professors Say High School Math Doesn’t Prepare Most Students For Their College Majors","publishDate":1699873234,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Professors Say High School Math Doesn’t Prepare Most Students For Their College Majors | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"mindshift"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The typical ambitious high school student takes advanced algebra, trigonometry, pre-calculus and calculus. None of that math may be necessary for the vast majority of undergraduates who don’t intend to major in science or another STEM field. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But those same students don’t have many of the math skills that professors think they actually do need. In a survey, humanities, arts and social science professors say they really want their students to be able to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/58326/could-data-science-diversify-the-stem-field-why-courses-designed-this-century-feel-so-relevant-to-all-students\">analyze data, create charts and spreadsheets and reason mathematically\u003c/a> – skills that high school math courses often skip or rush through.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“We still need the traditional algebra-to-calculus curriculum for students who are intending a STEM major,” said Gary Martin, a professor of mathematics education at Auburn University in Alabama who led the team that conducted this survey of college professors. “But that’s maybe 20%. The other 80%, what about them?” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Martin said that the survey showed that high schools should stress “reasoning and critical thinking skills, decrease the emphasis on specific mathematical topics, and increase the focus on data analysis and statistics.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This damning assessment of the content of high school math comes from a survey of about 300 Alabama college professors who oversee majors and undergraduate degree programs at both two-year and four-year public colleges in the humanities, arts, social sciences and some natural sciences. Majors that require calculus were excluded. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The 2021 survey prompted Alabama’s public colleges and universities to allow more students to meet their math requirements by taking a statistics course instead of a traditional math class, such as college algebra or calculus. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Martin and his colleagues later realized that the survey had implications for high school math too, and \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://conference-handouts.s3.amazonaws.com/2023-ncsm-washington-dc/files/0930_0_Martin_3111.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">presented these results at an Oct. 26, 2023 session\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> of the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics annual conference in Washington D.C. Full survey results are slated to be published in the winter 2024 issue of the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://amatyc.org/page/MathAMATYCEducator\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">MathAMATYC Educator\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Mathematical Association of Two-Year Colleges.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the survey, professors were asked \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">detailed questions\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> about which mathematical concepts and skills students need in their programs. Many high school math topics were unimportant to college professors. For example, most professors said they wanted students to understand functions, particularly linear and exponential functions, which are used to model trends, population changes or compound interest. But Martin said that non-STEM students didn’t really need to learn trigonometric functions, which are used in satellite navigation or mechanical engineering. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">College professors were more keen on an assortment of what was described as mathematical “practices,” including the ability to “interpret quantitative information,” “strategically infer, evaluate and reason,” “apply the mathematics they know to solve everyday life, society and the workplace,” and to “look for patterns and relationships and make generalizations.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Teachers are so focused on covering all the topics that they don’t have time to do the practices when the practices are what really matters,” said Martin.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Understanding statistics was high on the list. An overwhelming majority of college professors said students in their programs needed to be familiar with statistics and data analysis, including concepts like correlation, causation and the importance of sample size. They wanted students to be able to “interpret displays of data and statistical analyses to understand the reasonableness of the claims being presented.” Professors say students need to be able to produce bar charts, histograms and line charts. Facility with spreadsheets, such as Excel, is useful too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Statistics is what you need,” said Martin. “Yet, in many K-12 classrooms, statistics is the proverbial end-of-the-year unit that you may or may not get to. And if you do, you rush through it, just to say you did it. But there’s not this sense of urgency to get through the statistics, as there is to get through the math topics.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Though the survey took place only in Alabama and professors in other states might have different thoughts on the math that students need, Martin suspects that there are more similarities than differences.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The mismatch between what students learn in high school and what they need in college isn’t easy to fix. Teachers generally don’t have time for longer statistics units, or the ability to go deeper into math concepts so that students can develop their reasoning skills, because high school math courses have become bloated with too many topics. However, there is no consensus on which algebra topics to jettison.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Encouraging high school students to take statistics classes during their junior and senior years is also fraught. College admissions officers value calculus, almost as a proxy for intelligence. And college admissions tests tend to emphasize math skills that students will practice more on the algebra-to-calculus track. A diversion to data analysis risks putting students at a disadvantage. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The thorniest problem is that revamping high school math could force students to make big choices in school before they know what they want to study in college. Students who want to enter STEM fields still need calculus and the country needs more people to pursue STEM careers. Taking more students off of the calculus track could close doors to many students and ultimately weaken the U.S. economy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Martin said it’s also important to remember that vocational training is not the only purpose of math education. “We don’t have students read Shakespeare because they need it to be effective in whatever they’re going to do later,” he said. “It adds something to your life. I felt that it really gave me breadth as a human being.” He wants high school students to study some math concepts they will never need because there’s a beauty to them. “Appreciating mathematics is a really intriguing way of looking at the world,” he said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Martin and his colleagues don’t have any definitive solutions, but their survey is a helpful data point in demonstrating how too few students are getting the mathematical foundations they need for the future. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This story about \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/proof-points-professors-say-high-school-math-doesnt-prepare-most-students-for-their-college-majors/\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">high school math\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">was written by Jill Barshay and produced by The Hechinger Report, a nonprofit, independent news organization focused on inequality and innovation in education. Sign up for the \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"http://hechingerreport.us2.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=66c306eebb323868c3ce353c1&id=d3ee4c3e04\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hechinger newsletter.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In a survey, non-STEM professors said they really want their students to be able to analyze data, create charts and spreadsheets and reason mathematically.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1723562994,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":21,"wordCount":1100},"headData":{"title":"Professors Say High School Math Doesn’t Prepare Most Students For Their College Majors | KQED","description":"In a survey, non-STEM professors said they really want their students to be able to analyze data, create charts and spreadsheets and reason mathematically.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":"","socialDescription":"In a survey, non-STEM professors said they really want their students to be able to analyze data, create charts and spreadsheets and reason mathematically.","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Professors Say High School Math Doesn’t Prepare Most Students For Their College Majors","datePublished":"2023-11-13T03:00:34-08:00","dateModified":"2024-08-13T08:29:54-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"sticky":false,"nprByline":"Jill Barshay, \u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/\" target=\"_blank\">The Hechinger Report\u003c/a>","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/mindshift/62724/professors-say-high-school-math-doesnt-prepare-most-students-for-their-college-majors","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The typical ambitious high school student takes advanced algebra, trigonometry, pre-calculus and calculus. None of that math may be necessary for the vast majority of undergraduates who don’t intend to major in science or another STEM field. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But those same students don’t have many of the math skills that professors think they actually do need. In a survey, humanities, arts and social science professors say they really want their students to be able to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/58326/could-data-science-diversify-the-stem-field-why-courses-designed-this-century-feel-so-relevant-to-all-students\">analyze data, create charts and spreadsheets and reason mathematically\u003c/a> – skills that high school math courses often skip or rush through.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“We still need the traditional algebra-to-calculus curriculum for students who are intending a STEM major,” said Gary Martin, a professor of mathematics education at Auburn University in Alabama who led the team that conducted this survey of college professors. “But that’s maybe 20%. The other 80%, what about them?” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Martin said that the survey showed that high schools should stress “reasoning and critical thinking skills, decrease the emphasis on specific mathematical topics, and increase the focus on data analysis and statistics.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This damning assessment of the content of high school math comes from a survey of about 300 Alabama college professors who oversee majors and undergraduate degree programs at both two-year and four-year public colleges in the humanities, arts, social sciences and some natural sciences. Majors that require calculus were excluded. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The 2021 survey prompted Alabama’s public colleges and universities to allow more students to meet their math requirements by taking a statistics course instead of a traditional math class, such as college algebra or calculus. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Martin and his colleagues later realized that the survey had implications for high school math too, and \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://conference-handouts.s3.amazonaws.com/2023-ncsm-washington-dc/files/0930_0_Martin_3111.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">presented these results at an Oct. 26, 2023 session\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> of the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics annual conference in Washington D.C. Full survey results are slated to be published in the winter 2024 issue of the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://amatyc.org/page/MathAMATYCEducator\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">MathAMATYC Educator\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Mathematical Association of Two-Year Colleges.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the survey, professors were asked \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">detailed questions\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> about which mathematical concepts and skills students need in their programs. Many high school math topics were unimportant to college professors. For example, most professors said they wanted students to understand functions, particularly linear and exponential functions, which are used to model trends, population changes or compound interest. But Martin said that non-STEM students didn’t really need to learn trigonometric functions, which are used in satellite navigation or mechanical engineering. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">College professors were more keen on an assortment of what was described as mathematical “practices,” including the ability to “interpret quantitative information,” “strategically infer, evaluate and reason,” “apply the mathematics they know to solve everyday life, society and the workplace,” and to “look for patterns and relationships and make generalizations.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Teachers are so focused on covering all the topics that they don’t have time to do the practices when the practices are what really matters,” said Martin.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Understanding statistics was high on the list. An overwhelming majority of college professors said students in their programs needed to be familiar with statistics and data analysis, including concepts like correlation, causation and the importance of sample size. They wanted students to be able to “interpret displays of data and statistical analyses to understand the reasonableness of the claims being presented.” Professors say students need to be able to produce bar charts, histograms and line charts. Facility with spreadsheets, such as Excel, is useful too.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Statistics is what you need,” said Martin. “Yet, in many K-12 classrooms, statistics is the proverbial end-of-the-year unit that you may or may not get to. And if you do, you rush through it, just to say you did it. But there’s not this sense of urgency to get through the statistics, as there is to get through the math topics.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Though the survey took place only in Alabama and professors in other states might have different thoughts on the math that students need, Martin suspects that there are more similarities than differences.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The mismatch between what students learn in high school and what they need in college isn’t easy to fix. Teachers generally don’t have time for longer statistics units, or the ability to go deeper into math concepts so that students can develop their reasoning skills, because high school math courses have become bloated with too many topics. However, there is no consensus on which algebra topics to jettison.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Encouraging high school students to take statistics classes during their junior and senior years is also fraught. College admissions officers value calculus, almost as a proxy for intelligence. And college admissions tests tend to emphasize math skills that students will practice more on the algebra-to-calculus track. A diversion to data analysis risks putting students at a disadvantage. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The thorniest problem is that revamping high school math could force students to make big choices in school before they know what they want to study in college. Students who want to enter STEM fields still need calculus and the country needs more people to pursue STEM careers. Taking more students off of the calculus track could close doors to many students and ultimately weaken the U.S. economy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Martin said it’s also important to remember that vocational training is not the only purpose of math education. “We don’t have students read Shakespeare because they need it to be effective in whatever they’re going to do later,” he said. “It adds something to your life. I felt that it really gave me breadth as a human being.” He wants high school students to study some math concepts they will never need because there’s a beauty to them. “Appreciating mathematics is a really intriguing way of looking at the world,” he said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Martin and his colleagues don’t have any definitive solutions, but their survey is a helpful data point in demonstrating how too few students are getting the mathematical foundations they need for the future. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This story about \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/proof-points-professors-say-high-school-math-doesnt-prepare-most-students-for-their-college-majors/\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">high school math\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">was written by Jill Barshay and produced by The Hechinger Report, a nonprofit, independent news organization focused on inequality and innovation in education. 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As they work, a machine rises in their midst — a black aluminum frame loaded with advanced tech like high-powered brushless motors and 3D vision systems. Say hello to the Space Cookies, aka \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> Robotics Competition Team 1868, a Girl Scout troop that builds tournament robots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, over 3,300 high school and community teams like the Space Cookies are assembling around the world in anticipation of the upcoming season of the \u003cem>FIRST \u003c/em>(For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology) Robotics Competition. This giant non-profit/sport league started in 1989 as a local program to inspire New Hampshire teens in engineering and technology fields. It has grown to encompass more than 83,000 high schoolers in 31 countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Through the fall, students meet outside the school day to develop skills in areas like component milling, gear ratios and Java coding as tools for problem-solving, gamesmanship and intelligence — both human and artificial. Local engineering and IT professionals volunteer as mentors, but older students also teach their younger teammates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62554\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62554\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"971\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1-800x598.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1-1020x762.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1-768x574.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Team 299 Valkyrie Robotics of Cupertino, Calif., tend to their robot in the pit area at the 2023 San Francisco Regional; (left) the workshop for Girl Scout Space Cookies Team 1868 displaying many awards, including a couple of their recent prestigious blue banners. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Some teams take over corridors of classrooms, while others meet in neighborhood garages. Some teams are like student-led companies, with separate departments for public outreach and merch. Depending on their goals and expectations, students may participate from a few hours to a few dozen hours a week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They are ramping up for January, when \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> will reveal the season’s game rules, kicking off a feverish eight weeks of designing, fabricating and programming fresh machines. Then it’s onto the three-day regional tournaments that serve as qualifiers for April’s world \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> Championship in Houston.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62556\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62556\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Team 5419 Berkelium team members, from Berkeley High School in Berkeley, Calif., test a prototype system to shoot cones onto poles. Caroline Soffer (second from left), 16, is a competitive gymnast and a designer. “I’m never going to be a pro gymnast, while there’s a very, very good chance that I’m going to end up in engineering or computer science,” she says. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The tournaments are a whirring, banging combination of science fair, Pac-Man and March Madness played by demon-possessed lawnmowers. Robots compete in alliances of 3-vs-3 on a volleyball-sized playing area in two-and-half minute matches. 2023’s season-specific tasks involved gathering up yellow traffic cones and inflatable purple cubes to deposit on poles or in slots at either end. Each match starts with fifteen seconds of autonomous action, when robots are programmed to score points on their own. Then, behind a plexi shield, the humans step up to control their mechanical avatars, and it’s on – speed, power, grace, defense, teamwork, showboating and the occasional collision with bits of plastic and metal flying around. Yes, those safety glasses are necessary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robotics competitions are nothing new, but over the last few years, the \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> Robotics Competition has evolved from a fascinating after-school activity to having a real impact on the tech and engineering world, and colleges are catching on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We like to see evidence of project-based learning, working in teams, hands-on experience and that sense of discovery,” says Jennifer Cluett, dean of admissions at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. In 2022, WPI added a custom question to the Common App, asking about students’ experience in competitive robotics. Cluett says 218 of 1365 enrollees in WPI’s freshman class this year have participated in\u003cem> FIRST.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62557\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62557\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"865\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3-800x532.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3-160x106.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3-768x511.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Spartan Robotics control board and pistol-grip controller from 2022, when robots had to catapult giant tennis balls into a basket and dangle from a chin-up bar. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I was just blown away by these students and their robots, with team logos and t-shirts and buttons, sponsors and cheering sections. It was like Texas high school football,” says Jonathan Hoster, associate admissions director at the Syracuse College of Engineering. Two years after he first saw a tournament in 2014, Syracuse earmarked ten scholarships for \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> alumni.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62558\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62558\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ivy Mahncke, 18, who had very little mechanical experience before joining Lowell High School Team 4159 CardinalBotics in San Francisco, Calif., will major in engineering with robotics at Olin College of Engineering. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A who’s-who list of \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> sponsors — including Boeing, Dow, Coca Cola, Amazon, FedEx, Johnson & Johnson, Apple, Ford, and Disney — shows how eager big businesses are to prime the pipeline. Demand for workers in fields like automation and connectivity, against recent declines in engineering college graduates, makes a resume showing multiple years of hands-on high school robotics increasingly desirable in corporate America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Traditionally we would look very heavily at a college GPA. But increasingly companies are looking for more well-rounded employees,” says Jody Howard, vice president of innovation and emerging technology at Caterpillar Inc. “What’s so interesting about \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> is that, while they may be coming out with robotic or programming skills, it’s really the teaming and problem-solving that make them stand out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62559\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62559\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"970\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5-800x597.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5-1020x761.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5-160x119.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5-768x573.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The hand-like effector on Archbishop Mitty High School Team 1351 TKO’s robot (left) telescopes and tilts to handle game pieces. (Right) Team 971 Spartan Robotics are known for their innovative tech. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Howard compares a \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> team scrambling to put a damaged robot back into the fray with a Caterpillar on-site service engineer cooperating with a client to rush one of their autonomous mining trucks back on line. “They already have experience going through the process under pressure,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lara Fernando is a senior leader on Team 971 Spartan Robotics at Mountain View High School, in Mountain View, Calif. — a few miles from the Space Cookies. Two years ago, she was hired as a paid intern at agricultural technology startup FarmX. “I was the youngest person in the building, 15 years old, and the first woman there. From robotics I already had the skills to be there with the college engineering majors — soldering circuit boards, assembling sensors, running 3D printers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Besides providing capable personnel, high school \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> teams may also contribute tech back to the industry, from debugging open source code to coming up with innovative rapid prototyping approaches. At a higher level, engineers who mentor Spartan Robotics say John Deere’s weed-killing agribots now use an AI framework originally created for the team’s 2017 robot to climb ropes and fire Wiffle Balls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62560\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62560\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kevin Mendoza, 15, a member of Team 8048 Churrobots of East Palo Alto, Calif., cleans dust particles off a gearbox component. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As impressive as these contributions may be, gritty problem-solving is a far more central element of the \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> ethos. Anika Zhou, 16, quit basketball to make more time for design and mechanical work with the Space Cookies. She thinks what sets the robotics team apart from school is, “They let us make mistakes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Celien Bill, 17, technical manager for Team 5419 Berkelium of Berkeley High School in Berkeley, Calif., estimates he spent over 200 hours last season tuning their cone launching system. “Getting it to work the first time was super exhilarating. That feeling lasts about 10 minutes … and then you go back to improving.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the long term, winning and losing have about the same benefit — all the benefit is in the process,” says Dirk Wright, lead mentor for Berkelium. “You can’t understate the importance of self-confidence. It opens up a huge amount of opportunities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Plus, it’s a lot of fun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62561\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62561\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The 2023 Sacramento Regional at UC Davis involved 46 teams and over 1,000 students. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At competitions, there are team flags, zebra-striped referees, huge video screens, people dressed as vikings and penguins, face paint, singalongs to “Sweet Caroline” and parents in funny hats cheering in the stands. There also are hundreds and thousands of other high schoolers in their team t-shirts, roaming between the pit area and playing field, checking out everybody and every machine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Besides on-field triumph, teams vie for more than 20 other awards, in categories from Rookie All Star to Gracious Professionalism. Only one, the Engineering Inspiration Award, for which sponsor NASA will cover registration fees for the \u003cem>FIRST \u003c/em>Championship in Houston, has any real material value. The prestige prizes are the blue gym banners that tournament victors and major community award winners can hang in their workshops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62562\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62562\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Team 6238 Popcorn Penguins of Santa Clara County, Calif. won the Team Spirit Award at the 2023 Sacramento Regional. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But anybody can take home that warm glow of satisfaction when, in the midst of a big competition, one of their peers walks by, nods and says, “Cool robot.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62563\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62563\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lara Fernando (upper right corner, black sleeves extended upward) and Spartan Robotics explode the moment they know they have won the 2023 San Francisco Regional and qualified for Houston. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Photos and Reporting by Mark Leong/Redux Pictures\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Visual design by LA Johnson\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Edited by LA Johnson and Steve Drummond\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Meet+the+high+school+sport+that+builds+robots+%E2%80%94+and+the+next+generation+of+engineers+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":1634,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":26},"modified":1697056275,"excerpt":"The FIRST Robotics Competition has evolved from a fascinating after-school activity to having an impact on the tech and engineering world, involving tens of thousands of teens across the globe.","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"The FIRST Robotics Competition has evolved from a fascinating after-school activity to having an impact on the tech and engineering world, involving tens of thousands of teens across the globe.","socialDescription":"The FIRST Robotics Competition has evolved from a fascinating after-school activity to having an impact on the tech and engineering world, involving tens of thousands of teens across the globe.","title":"Meet the high school sport that builds robots — and the next generation of engineers | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Meet the high school sport that builds robots — and the next generation of engineers","datePublished":"2023-10-07T13:26:14-07:00","dateModified":"2023-10-11T13:31:15-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"meet-the-high-school-sport-that-builds-robots-and-the-next-generation-of-engineers","status":"publish","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=1200615634&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprByline":"Mark Leong, LA Johnson","nprStoryDate":"Sat, 07 Oct 2023 06:01:28 -0400","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","nprLastModifiedDate":"Sat, 07 Oct 2023 06:01:28 -0400","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2023/10/07/1200615634/meet-the-high-school-sport-that-builds-robots-and-the-next-generation-of-enginee?ft=nprml&f=1200615634","nprImageAgency":"Mark Leong for NPR","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","nprStoryId":"1200615634","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Sat, 07 Oct 2023 06:01:00 -0400","path":"/mindshift/62512/meet-the-high-school-sport-that-builds-robots-and-the-next-generation-of-engineers","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>On a Thursday night inside a NASA hangar in Mountain View, Calif., a group of teenage girls cluster around two large tables strewn with wires, hex wrenches and laptops. As they work, a machine rises in their midst — a black aluminum frame loaded with advanced tech like high-powered brushless motors and 3D vision systems. Say hello to the Space Cookies, aka \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> Robotics Competition Team 1868, a Girl Scout troop that builds tournament robots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, over 3,300 high school and community teams like the Space Cookies are assembling around the world in anticipation of the upcoming season of the \u003cem>FIRST \u003c/em>(For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology) Robotics Competition. This giant non-profit/sport league started in 1989 as a local program to inspire New Hampshire teens in engineering and technology fields. It has grown to encompass more than 83,000 high schoolers in 31 countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Through the fall, students meet outside the school day to develop skills in areas like component milling, gear ratios and Java coding as tools for problem-solving, gamesmanship and intelligence — both human and artificial. Local engineering and IT professionals volunteer as mentors, but older students also teach their younger teammates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62554\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62554\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"971\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1-800x598.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1-1020x762.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots1-768x574.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Team 299 Valkyrie Robotics of Cupertino, Calif., tend to their robot in the pit area at the 2023 San Francisco Regional; (left) the workshop for Girl Scout Space Cookies Team 1868 displaying many awards, including a couple of their recent prestigious blue banners. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Some teams take over corridors of classrooms, while others meet in neighborhood garages. Some teams are like student-led companies, with separate departments for public outreach and merch. Depending on their goals and expectations, students may participate from a few hours to a few dozen hours a week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They are ramping up for January, when \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> will reveal the season’s game rules, kicking off a feverish eight weeks of designing, fabricating and programming fresh machines. Then it’s onto the three-day regional tournaments that serve as qualifiers for April’s world \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> Championship in Houston.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62556\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62556\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots2-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Team 5419 Berkelium team members, from Berkeley High School in Berkeley, Calif., test a prototype system to shoot cones onto poles. Caroline Soffer (second from left), 16, is a competitive gymnast and a designer. “I’m never going to be a pro gymnast, while there’s a very, very good chance that I’m going to end up in engineering or computer science,” she says. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The tournaments are a whirring, banging combination of science fair, Pac-Man and March Madness played by demon-possessed lawnmowers. Robots compete in alliances of 3-vs-3 on a volleyball-sized playing area in two-and-half minute matches. 2023’s season-specific tasks involved gathering up yellow traffic cones and inflatable purple cubes to deposit on poles or in slots at either end. Each match starts with fifteen seconds of autonomous action, when robots are programmed to score points on their own. Then, behind a plexi shield, the humans step up to control their mechanical avatars, and it’s on – speed, power, grace, defense, teamwork, showboating and the occasional collision with bits of plastic and metal flying around. Yes, those safety glasses are necessary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robotics competitions are nothing new, but over the last few years, the \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> Robotics Competition has evolved from a fascinating after-school activity to having a real impact on the tech and engineering world, and colleges are catching on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We like to see evidence of project-based learning, working in teams, hands-on experience and that sense of discovery,” says Jennifer Cluett, dean of admissions at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. In 2022, WPI added a custom question to the Common App, asking about students’ experience in competitive robotics. Cluett says 218 of 1365 enrollees in WPI’s freshman class this year have participated in\u003cem> FIRST.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62557\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62557\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"865\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3-800x532.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3-160x106.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots3-768x511.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Spartan Robotics control board and pistol-grip controller from 2022, when robots had to catapult giant tennis balls into a basket and dangle from a chin-up bar. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I was just blown away by these students and their robots, with team logos and t-shirts and buttons, sponsors and cheering sections. It was like Texas high school football,” says Jonathan Hoster, associate admissions director at the Syracuse College of Engineering. Two years after he first saw a tournament in 2014, Syracuse earmarked ten scholarships for \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> alumni.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62558\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62558\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots4-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ivy Mahncke, 18, who had very little mechanical experience before joining Lowell High School Team 4159 CardinalBotics in San Francisco, Calif., will major in engineering with robotics at Olin College of Engineering. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A who’s-who list of \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> sponsors — including Boeing, Dow, Coca Cola, Amazon, FedEx, Johnson & Johnson, Apple, Ford, and Disney — shows how eager big businesses are to prime the pipeline. Demand for workers in fields like automation and connectivity, against recent declines in engineering college graduates, makes a resume showing multiple years of hands-on high school robotics increasingly desirable in corporate America.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Traditionally we would look very heavily at a college GPA. But increasingly companies are looking for more well-rounded employees,” says Jody Howard, vice president of innovation and emerging technology at Caterpillar Inc. “What’s so interesting about \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> is that, while they may be coming out with robotic or programming skills, it’s really the teaming and problem-solving that make them stand out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62559\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62559\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"970\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5-800x597.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5-1020x761.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5-160x119.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots5-768x573.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The hand-like effector on Archbishop Mitty High School Team 1351 TKO’s robot (left) telescopes and tilts to handle game pieces. (Right) Team 971 Spartan Robotics are known for their innovative tech. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Howard compares a \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> team scrambling to put a damaged robot back into the fray with a Caterpillar on-site service engineer cooperating with a client to rush one of their autonomous mining trucks back on line. “They already have experience going through the process under pressure,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lara Fernando is a senior leader on Team 971 Spartan Robotics at Mountain View High School, in Mountain View, Calif. — a few miles from the Space Cookies. Two years ago, she was hired as a paid intern at agricultural technology startup FarmX. “I was the youngest person in the building, 15 years old, and the first woman there. From robotics I already had the skills to be there with the college engineering majors — soldering circuit boards, assembling sensors, running 3D printers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Besides providing capable personnel, high school \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> teams may also contribute tech back to the industry, from debugging open source code to coming up with innovative rapid prototyping approaches. At a higher level, engineers who mentor Spartan Robotics say John Deere’s weed-killing agribots now use an AI framework originally created for the team’s 2017 robot to climb ropes and fire Wiffle Balls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62560\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62560\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots7-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kevin Mendoza, 15, a member of Team 8048 Churrobots of East Palo Alto, Calif., cleans dust particles off a gearbox component. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As impressive as these contributions may be, gritty problem-solving is a far more central element of the \u003cem>FIRST\u003c/em> ethos. Anika Zhou, 16, quit basketball to make more time for design and mechanical work with the Space Cookies. She thinks what sets the robotics team apart from school is, “They let us make mistakes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Celien Bill, 17, technical manager for Team 5419 Berkelium of Berkeley High School in Berkeley, Calif., estimates he spent over 200 hours last season tuning their cone launching system. “Getting it to work the first time was super exhilarating. That feeling lasts about 10 minutes … and then you go back to improving.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the long term, winning and losing have about the same benefit — all the benefit is in the process,” says Dirk Wright, lead mentor for Berkelium. “You can’t understate the importance of self-confidence. It opens up a huge amount of opportunities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Plus, it’s a lot of fun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62561\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62561\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots8-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The 2023 Sacramento Regional at UC Davis involved 46 teams and over 1,000 students. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At competitions, there are team flags, zebra-striped referees, huge video screens, people dressed as vikings and penguins, face paint, singalongs to “Sweet Caroline” and parents in funny hats cheering in the stands. There also are hundreds and thousands of other high schoolers in their team t-shirts, roaming between the pit area and playing field, checking out everybody and every machine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Besides on-field triumph, teams vie for more than 20 other awards, in categories from Rookie All Star to Gracious Professionalism. Only one, the Engineering Inspiration Award, for which sponsor NASA will cover registration fees for the \u003cem>FIRST \u003c/em>Championship in Houston, has any real material value. The prestige prizes are the blue gym banners that tournament victors and major community award winners can hang in their workshops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62562\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62562\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots9-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Team 6238 Popcorn Penguins of Santa Clara County, Calif. won the Team Spirit Award at the 2023 Sacramento Regional. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But anybody can take home that warm glow of satisfaction when, in the midst of a big competition, one of their peers walks by, nods and says, “Cool robot.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_62563\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1300px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-62563\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1300\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10.jpeg 1300w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10-800x533.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10-1020x679.jpeg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/10/robots10-768x512.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1300px) 100vw, 1300px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lara Fernando (upper right corner, black sleeves extended upward) and Spartan Robotics explode the moment they know they have won the 2023 San Francisco Regional and qualified for Houston. \u003ccite>(Mark Leong for NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Photos and Reporting by Mark Leong/Redux Pictures\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Visual design by LA Johnson\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Edited by LA Johnson and Steve Drummond\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2023 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Meet+the+high+school+sport+that+builds+robots+%E2%80%94+and+the+next+generation+of+engineers+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/mindshift/62512/meet-the-high-school-sport-that-builds-robots-and-the-next-generation-of-engineers","authors":["byline_mindshift_62512"],"categories":["mindshift_20579","mindshift_20639"],"tags":["mindshift_21188","mindshift_20967","mindshift_21818","mindshift_434","mindshift_20947","mindshift_47","mindshift_21522","mindshift_21817"],"featImg":"mindshift_62513","label":"mindshift"},"mindshift_62436":{"type":"posts","id":"mindshift_62436","meta":{"index":"posts_1716263798","site":"mindshift","id":"62436","score":null,"sort":[1695722443000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"how-listening-to-students-stories-can-improve-math-class","title":"How Listening to Students’ Stories Can Improve Math Class","publishDate":1695722443,"format":"standard","headTitle":"How Listening to Students’ Stories Can Improve Math Class | KQED","labelTerm":{"term":21942,"site":"mindshift"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003cem>View the full episode transcript\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Walking into her sophomore year math class, Taylor Paris was nervous. She’d had a rocky relationship with the subject ever since long division showed up in elementary school. “I knew I didn’t understand math concepts very well. I knew that it was something that took me a longer time (than classmates),” she recalled.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So she was pleasantly surprised when one of the first assignments from teacher Sarah Strong required no calculating. Instead, Strong asked the class to write a letter to math – as if it were a person. These \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/60108/using-dear-math-letters-to-overcome-dread-in-math-class\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Dear Math” letters\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> are a tool that Strong developed as a way to understand students’ relationship to math, which researchers call \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://journals.library.columbia.edu/index.php/jmetc/article/view/9187/4897\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">mathematical identity\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. What Strong learns from these letters informs how she teaches individual students and whole classes throughout the year. Often that means working to disrupt the negative beliefs that students hold about their math abilities, which tend to revolve around comparisons to classmates, like “fast” vs. “slow” or “math person” vs. “not a math person.”\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Strong models the Dear Math activity by reading her own letter to math. Then she gives students prompts, such as:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What is one of your greatest mathematical strengths?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How do you plan to engage with math in the future?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What would you like more of in math classrooms?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Paris, who is now 20, was excited to apply her writing skills in math, but also to unpack some of her deeply rooted emotions about math. “I was finally able to write all of the things that made me sad and things that made me mad, like everything into one letter, addressing math directly,” she said. Here’s what she wrote in 10th grade: \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"padding-left: 40px\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dear Math, \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, do I have some things to say to you. You’ve followed me through every school year, caused me the worst headaches, and given me numerous counts of anxiety just thinking about you … The memories of my seventh grade math teacher telling me ‘maybe you’re just not a math person’ still ringing in my head and the constant Bs and Cs are still imprinted in my mind. You’ve been a never ending challenge and struggle, and it’s always been hard to understand you. No matter how many times my friends and teachers explain you, I never grasp you completely.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For Paris, having a teacher acknowledge emotions in math class was \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/54980/why-teachers-want-math-with-more-human-ties\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">humanizing\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. “She recognized my experience as a part of this really big experience that so many other people have. And that was really validating,” Paris said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Strong devotes a few hours to reading the letters, making notes about broad patterns and individual details. “It’s the beginning of an ongoing story between you and the students and their math experience for that semester or year, and it’s really important to start by listening to them well,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Hierarchy in math education\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Strong teaches at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.hightechhigh.org/about/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">High Tech High\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> and its Graduate School of Education in San Diego. She developed the Dear Math routine almost a decade ago, and she published a book about it, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.10publications.com/dear-math\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dear Math: Why Kids Hate Math And What Teachers Can Do About It\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, co-authored by her former\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">student Gigi Butterfield. In it, the teacher and former student reflect on the themes across hundreds of letters. One pervasive theme is hierarchy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Kids as young as kindergarten and first grade are defining themselves as good at math or not good at math,” said \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/amynoelleparks\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Amy Parks\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, an elementary math education researcher at Michigan State University. Much of that definition comes from how they rank among classmates – from timed tests, to ‘high’ and ‘low’ groups, to subtle cues in teachers’ language. “I’ve been in classrooms where teachers have had kids line up by how many questions they answered or how many things they got right,” Parks said. “These hierarchies get reinforced so often and in so many different ways it’s almost overwhelming.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For many kids, the comparisons add up to a negative self-perception around math. And by the time they reach high school, that mathematical identity can feel immutable. But math class doesn’t have to be this way. “Teachers and parents can affect the way kids think about these things,” said \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://mathematizing4all.com/about-the-author/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rachel Lambert\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, a professor and researcher at University of California, Santa Barbara.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s a stubborn cultural \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/54389/3-ways-to-shape-math-into-a-positive-experience\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">myth that some of us are “math people” and some of us aren’t\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. This idea gets repeated explicitly all the time, and often \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aah6524\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">implicitly with gendered and racialized associations\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. But neuroscience shows that \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youcubed.org/resources/brain-science/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">everyone is capable of learning math\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, and Lambert said \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/57997/how-to-build-students-math-confidence-with-culturally-sustaining-teaching-practices\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">it matters that kids hear that\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. “Students connect subjects to teachers in a pretty intense way that I think as adults we often forget. So if they feel their math teacher believes in them as a human being and believes in their competence in mathematics, that can make a huge difference,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In Strong’s classroom, listening to students’ stories is the first step toward disrupting those hierarchies. She also looks for ways to highlight students’ mathematical thinking on a daily basis. One way she does this is by having multiple students write their problem-solving ideas on the whiteboard and asking other students to comment on what they like about the strategies they see. Another routine is an exit ticket that asks students to share something they learned from a classmate that day. She might share the details the next day with a student who was mentioned or with the whole class if there’s a bigger lesson in it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Math is for everyone\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Isabela Avila, another of Strong’s former students, said these kinds of practices created a sense of community: “It was never even like a question of did you get it right or wrong. It just seemed like we were always just all learning together as a class.” She had Strong as a teacher twice and wrote Dear Math letters both times. In her letter as a sophomore, her self-doubts showed up in the first sentence:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"padding-left: 40px\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dear Math, I really like you, but you don’t come naturally to me. I have to work extra hard to understand and fully conceptualize what you have to offer.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In her letter as a senior, Avila wrote about her math growth over the prior two years:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"padding-left: 40px\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I developed a sense of patience and open mindedness for the first time ever. … I know this will help me a lot in college and beyond, and I look forward to using it in the future.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Avila got to the highly competitive environment of Johns Hopkins University, however, the usual order of things returned. “I really struggled a lot with comparing myself, especially in math,” she said, discussing her freshman year. “And I just found that to be super, super counterproductive for both my learning and my self esteem.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Strong said her own math story has had a lot of highs and lows, too. Though she can’t protect students from the ways math is taught and talked about beyond her classroom, her hope is that before they leave high school, “they start to see themselves as mathematicians in new ways and that they start to see their peers as mathematically brilliant in new ways.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For Avila, the persistence she developed in high school did pay off in the long, emotionally tough hours of college calculus. “I feel like how you think about yourself and how fast you are to get back up and keep trying is really, truly so much more important than if you can actually do the math,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Fast and slow\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Paris, Strong’s former student who liked expressing her emotions in a Dear Math letter, still remembers the heart-racing stress that accompanied \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/61712/do-math-drills-help-children-learn\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">timed multiplication tests\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> in third grade. In Strong’s classroom, she said, there was never a timer. When Paris needed extra support, Strong brought out old algebra textbooks to reinforce foundational concepts. She designed projects where Paris could make connections between math and art – a subject that she already loved. Most importantly, Strong helped Paris learn how to break down complex problems into smaller steps. “Which is such a simple concept, but it didn’t even cross my mind that I could do that in math,” said Paris. “And that taking my time in math meant that I was being a mathematician.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Many students have this conception that they’re the only one who’s taking time to understand this concept, that everybody around them has already got it,” said Lambert, the UC Santa Barbara professor. Lambert suggested that teachers can reduce the rush of the pacing calendar by thinking of it not as going slowly but choosing where to invest time. “You can’t do every standard every year with your students. You have to figure out what is worth investment, and then spend more time with those topics so that students feel that they have enough time learning those things,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In Strong’s view, this requires shifting away from math instruction that is built around the ideas the teacher wants to get to in a given period. Student-centered instruction requires a lot more listening, she said: “Listening first off to their stories and how they’re showing up to class, and then second off (listening to) the ways that they are thinking of and understanding and making sense of mathematical ideas.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Paris, who had Strong as a teacher for three years, said that time transformed her. She now works at a bridal shop, where she was recently promoted from stylist to sales manager – a role that involves a lot of math. “If I want to teach my stylists how to increase their productivity in their sales, then I need to think like a mathematician and come up with the ways that I can do that,” she explained. In tenth grade, that would have scared her. Not now. “There’s no reason for me to be afraid of math because I’ve proven to myself time and time again that I can do it,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC8301605465&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Welcome to MindShift, where we explore the future of learning and how we raise our kids. I’m Kara Newhouse.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’m Nimah Gobir.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today we’re talking about math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Because it involves numbers and formulas, we often think of math as straightforward and objective.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But learning math is actually packed with emotions. I met a high school teacher who starts the year with an unusual assignment. She has her students write a letter to math, describing their feelings about the subject. Here’s that teacher, Sarah Strong.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A Dear Math letter is a letter that students write to math as if math were personified sitting across the table from them. … And it really helps inform teachers better understand the students stories and experiences that they’re coming to class with so that teachers can better design math experiences for students to thrive and flourish in math class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We’ll hear more from Sarah later in the episode. First, here’s part of a Dear Math letter from one of her former students, Taylor Paris.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Reading letter\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">] Dear math, Oh, do I have some things to say to you. You’ve followed me throughout every school year, caused me the worst headaches, and given me numerous counts of anxiety just thinking about you … The memories of my seventh grade math teacher telling me, ‘Maybe you’re just not a math person’ still ringing in my head, and the constant Bs and Cs are still imprinted in my mind. You’ve been a never ending challenge and struggle, and it’s always been hard to understand you. No matter how many times my friends and teachers explain you, I never grasp you completely.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The anxiety and frustration that Taylor described in her letter are familiar feelings for many young people. And by the time students get to high school, it can feel like if they don’t understand math now, they never will.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But math doesn’t have to be this way.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When we get back from the break, we’ll hear more about Dear Math letters and how they help students like Taylor strengthen their mathematical identities.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Taylor Paris graduated high school a few years ago, but she still remembers the first week of tenth grade math with her teacher Sarah Strong. That’s when students wrote letters to math, as if it were a person.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I remember being so excited because basically you’re writing in math, and that’s never the case.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Interdisciplinary learning allows students to think about a subject from new perspectives. For Taylor, writing the Dear Math letter gave her a chance to reflect on how her early school years shaped her relationship to math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I remember, my first, like, scariness of math was long division, because it was like so abstract to me, and everyone around me understood it and was just like, ‘Yeah, well that’s just the way it is and that’s totally fine.’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Writing about those memories was cathartic. It also helped Taylor feel connected to her teacher.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I have never had a math teacher talk about emotions behind math ever. Like, truly ever … She recognized my experience as a part of this really big experience that so many other people have. And that was really validating.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Her teacher, Sarah Strong, also made it clear that it was okay for those feelings to surface throughout the year. Which made it possible for Taylor to focus on actually learning math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She did a great job at making me feel like I could take a really complex problem and break it down to the bare bones of it, which is such a simple concept. But it didn’t even cross my mind that I could do that in math and that taking my time in math meant that I was being a mathematician. And that’s what mathematicians did, was take their time and work on problems slowly to really understand every aspect.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I met Taylor, she had just been promoted from a stylist to a sales manager at a bridal shop in San Diego. That’s a fashion job that involves a lot of math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So stylists are responsible for obviously, you know, the customer service side of things, but on the sales side, there is a certain goal that you need to meet or would ideally meet day to day and kind of week to day, month to day. …\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so when you think about it, sales is like one big math problem every day because there’s a question, there’s an answer that you have to get to, and then there’s variables that go into, you know, the answer to your problem, essentially.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Taylor is 20. Not that long ago, doing a math-related job would have been unimaginable to her.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you told sophomore year Taylor that I would be doing something that was directly correlated with math and numbers all the time, I would be terrified and probably laugh.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Taylor had Sarah Strong as a math teacher from 10th grade through 12th grade. She said that those years totally changed her view of math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so while I may have been scared to take a sales manager position at, you know, in my sophomore year, it makes a ton of sense for me now because what I do is help people find their wedding dress. And who would have thought that math was in finding a wedding dress?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Taylor now sees herself as a doer of math. This is what’s called mathematical identity.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We did an episode featuring Chris Emdin, who talked about students’ STEM identities. Mathematical identity is one form of a STEM identity.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mathematical identity is a way that students see themselves as a mathematician, and therefore it connects to the ways that they enter into mathematical spaces and connect with other mathematicians around them.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s teacher Sarah Strong again. She created the Dear Math activity during a bigger project where students were exploring their mathematical identities. They were using different types of math as metaphors for their experiences. And Sarah wanted to add a writing component to that project.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And one of my colleagues shared with me the idea of writing letters to a thing like books or basketball, and how she’d heard of that practice. And she thought I could do Dear Math letters, and I thought that was an amazing idea. So I ran with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The letters were powerful. And Sarah realized that having students write them at the beginning of the year could help her teach each class better. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s how she does it now. She introduces the assignment during the first week of school. She reads her own Dear Math letter as a model, because most students aren’t used to writing in math class. Hearing her letter also lets them know that even though she teaches math, it hasn’t always been easy for her.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After reading her letter, Sarah gives her students prompts for writing their own. Questions like…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What is one of your greatest mathematical strengths?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How do you plan to engage with math in the future?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What would you like more of in math classrooms?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They spend 15 to 30 minutes writing in class. Anyone who wants to write more can finish at home.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Then Sarah reads the letters on her own. She says this is the most important step.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘Cause it’s the beginning of an ongoing story between you and the students and their math experience for that semester or year, and it’s really important to start by listening to them well.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She first looks for broad patterns across the class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If I’ve got a disproportionate amount of students that hate math, don’t think they’re mathematicians, that I have to be really intentional about my class design, where I am regularly noticing and calling out their mathematical strengths and giving them opportunities to see themselves as mathematicians and see each other as mathematicians.\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Or do I have a lot of students who, who feel like ‘I am a really strong mathematician. Ever since I was young, I get all the right answers. I’m really fast.’ Then I can note that that’s a trend in the class and be thinking how I can continue to push those students while also broadening their understanding of how they are mathematical and how important it is to also listen to other students’ ways of being mathematical.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She also reads the letters for individual details about things students love and things that trip them up. She might make a few notes and …\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Check in with students like, ‘Gosh, I remember you said that you had a really hard time with the idea of percents and like whenever percents come up, you panic. Well, tomorrow we’re going to need some percents in our work with exponential functions. And so I wanted to make sure that you knew that I believe that you’ve got this. If you want to do a little practice beforehand, we can do that because I want you to feel confident. I don’t want some story from sixth grade impacting your confidence in what we’re working on right now.’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sarah said that getting to know students was always important to her. Even before she created the Dear Math assignment.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I would often try to connect with them in a variety of ways and I would hear their comments here and there that were both positive and negative. And I always tried to be a really good listener and understand my students’ feelings.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But she wasn’t always getting a full picture.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sometimes I think I was being a little delusional before I got to hear their whole stories because I would think, ‘Oh, they had really negative experiences. They don’t like math, but now that they’re in my class, everything’s going to be fine.’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The letters helped her take off her rose-colored glasses.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It wasn’t until I started having them write Dear Math letters that I got to hear more complete stories and gain a bigger picture for their previous experience and how those experiences were informing the ways they were showing up to my class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That knowledge enables her to help students grow as math learners throughout the year.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My biggest hope is that they start to see themselves as mathematicians in new ways and that they start to see their peers as mathematically brilliant in new ways.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nimah, it would be great if writing a Dear Math letter helped all students see themselves as capable of doing math – the way it did for Taylor Paris.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It would. But of course not every student’s math story is linear.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No… Some math stories go up and down over time, like a periodic function. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hey, nice math analogy! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I got that one from Sarah Strong. She described her own math story that way. It also applies to another of her former students, Isabela Avila. Here’s the start of a Dear Math letter Isabela wrote in tenth grade.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Reading letter\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">] Dear Math, I really like you, but you don’t come naturally to me. I have to work extra hard to understand and fully conceptualize what you have to offer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In previous math classes, Isabela felt pressure to always be fast and have the right answer. But she told me that expectation wasn’t there in Sarah Strong’s class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was never even like a question of like, did you get it right or wrong? It was just seemed like we were always just all learning together, as a class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> That sense of togetherness mattered. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And like, I think that really helped me like number one, like, think highly of myself as like a problem solver and also … be confident in my ideas.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Isabela had Sarah Strong as a teacher twice, and she wrote a Dear Math letter both times. You can hear her increased confidence in the letter she wrote as a senior.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Reading letter\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">] The most mathematical growth I feel I have ever experienced was during my junior year. I felt confident in my algebra skills for the first time ever. … My mindset also shifted drastically. I developed a sense of patience and open mindedness for the first time ever. … I know this will help me a lot in college and beyond, and I look forward to using it in the future. Sincerely, Isabela Avila.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Isabela actually got to college, the transition was rocky. She’s a pre-med major at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our like math department is known for being like notoriously hard.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> All around her, Isabela saw classmates who had come from elite high schools and seemed to understand calculus more easily than she did.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I really struggled a lot with like comparing myself, especially in math. And I just found that to be super, super counter-productive for both my learning and like my self esteem.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sometimes she would break down crying while doing homework, which could take eight hours to complete. In class, she didn’t participate as much as she had hoped to.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I just really didn’t want to sound like I didn’t know what I was talking about or like, not that I don’t belong there, but I don’t know. It was just, everyone around me was so smart. And I know, like, tests don’t define you, but everyone around me, like, even if they were starting in calc one, they, like, got fives on like the AP calc exams and did exceptionally well.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Back in high school, Isabela had written in one of her letters that she’d had a lot of highs and lows with math. Freshman year of college was definitely another low.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I talked to her during her sophomore year at Johns Hopkins, being a premed major was still very stressful. Something that helped, though, was making friends who didn’t talk about grades.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We don’t talk about, like, what score we got. We don’t talk about how we’re doing in the class. We don’t talk about — honestly we don’t talk that much about like our actual like school. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And she said the persistence that she developed in high school did help her get through calculus.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Especially in math here in college, like, I feel like how you think about yourself and like how fast you are to like, get back up and keep trying is really, truly so much more important than if you can actually do the math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Kara, the way Isabela compared herself to her calculus classmates isn’t unique to being at a university full of high achievers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> That’s right. Sarah Strong said those comparisons have been pervasive in students’ Dear Math letters. And according to experts, this kind of thinking starts early.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Researchers say even kindergarteners start to notice their spot in the pecking order of math ability.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It often starts with those one-minute math quizzes that so many of us remember.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sound of pencils scribbling and slamming down\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Students might hear their classmates furiously scribbling answers and slamming their pencils down when they finish. They equate that with being “good” at math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And there are lots of other ways in school that students are ranked and sorted. In younger grades, teachers often group students by ability when they’re practicing math. In upper grades, students may get tracked into ‘regular’ and ‘advanced’ classes. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some teachers will even publicly display kids’ progress in certain math skills. This can look like a bulletin board that uses paper ice cream scoops to represent how many multiplication facts each student knows.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One researcher I talked to had a lot of ideas about how to disrupt hierarchies in math education. This is Rachel Lambert, from University of California, Santa Barbara.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think if there’s one one thing I’d like to communicate, it’s that teachers and parents can affect the way kids think about these things.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rachel shared five tips that teachers can use to help kids stop comparing themselves to others in math. The first tip is to change the narrative about who can do math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Students would tell me how much it mattered to them to hear their teacher say, ‘There is no difference in who can be good at math.’ Like very clear messages around race and gender and the clear message that there is no one group of people that is better in math than other people, those students told me that was helpful to them.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Changing the narrative isn’t just about what we say to kids. It’s also about how teachers talk to each other. And how they group students in class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We might think as teachers – and I was a teacher for over 10 years – that kids don’t know that we might be calling them low kids or high kids when we’re having lunch with other teachers. … But they know, they always know and they know how they’re being grouped and classified and seen. … If we decide that kids are going to do well in mathematics, we do a lot of things in our teaching to set them up for success day after day. If we think kids will fail when we hand them a mathematical task, we’re doing subtle things to set them up for failure every single time we do that. So if we put them in groups that never change, we’re teaching them who they are and we’re also affecting who they become, because we’re only allowing them opportunities to do things quote-unquote at their level. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rachel’s second tip for teachers is to stop focusing on speed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Think of it not as a matter of going slow. Think of it as investing in certain things. So you can’t hit everything on your pacing calendar. You can’t do every standard every year with your students. You have to figure out what is worth investment and what is worth extra time, and then spend more time with those topics so that students feel that they have enough time learning those things.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Her third tip is to normalize mistakes. It can help students learn from each other’s thinking when you have them share their mistakes. Rachel told me about a teacher who did this.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She would even put a little heart next to a mistake and she’d be, ‘This was my favorite mistake of the day.’ And she drew a little heart next to it. And the kids would go, ‘awww.’ It’s adorable.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Tip number four is to give students problems that can be approached from multiple angles.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I see that some kids really love to engage in the visual aspect of a problem. Other students like to make, say, an organized list. And that doesn’t mean – there’s no such thing as learning styles; it doesn’t mean that that’s the way they’re going to approach every problem, but it does mean that a problem that draws on multiple ways of engaging can be more rich mathematically and also disrupt ideas of who’s the best at math and who isn’t.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rachel Lambert’s fifth and final tip is to make supports available to everyone.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That is the one of the simplest interventions you can do in math to make it more equitable … And it doesn’t send any negative messages to kids because they are choosing if they want to use a calculator. They are choosing if they want to hear the directions a second time. They are choosing if they use manipulatives.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Making these resources available to everyone takes the teacher’s assumptions out of the equation. And it helps kids develop the skills to recognize what they need to succeed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kara, there are some people who say math teachers should just focus on content. That activities like writing letters to math are more about self-esteem than learning.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">These goals don’t have to be separate. Direct instruction and problem-solving practice are essential parts of math education. But like we said at the beginning, doing math involves emotions. Although we’ve heard a lot about the frustrating parts of math, it can also evoke positive emotions.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kids who are absorbed in math problem-solving often express wonder and excitement.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Listening to young people’s stories and honoring all of these emotions allows students to be more human in math class. And that doesn’t just make them \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">believe \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">in their math abilities, it empowers them to learn math and to do math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This episode would not have been possible without Sarah Strong. To learn more about Dear Math letters, you can read the book she wrote with her former student, Gigi Butterfield. The book is called, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dear Math: Why Kids Hate Math and What Teachers Can Do About It.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thanks also to Taylor Paris, Isabela Avila, Rachel Lambert and Amy Parks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The MindShift team includes Nimah Gobir, Ki Sung, Marlena Jackson-Retondo and me, Kara Newhouse.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our editor is Chris Hambrick. Chris Hoff engineered this episode.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Additional support from Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldaña and Holly Kernan.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">MindShift is supported in part by the generosity of the William & Flora Hewlett Foundation and members of KQED.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> If you love MindShift, and enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend. We really appreciate it. You can also read more or subscribe to our newsletter at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://kqed.org/mindshift\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">kqed.org/mindshift\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Thank you for listening to Season 8 of the MindShift podcast. That’s it for these deep dive episodes. We’re taking a little break, but we’ll be back soon with new episodes featuring conversations about big ideas in education. Be sure to follow the show or subscribe so you don’t miss a thing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"In this math class, students write letters about their math history. The process can change their future.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1726872322,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":135,"wordCount":5839},"headData":{"title":"How Listening to Students’ Stories Can Improve Math Class | KQED","description":"In this math class, students write letters about their math history. 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She’d had a rocky relationship with the subject ever since long division showed up in elementary school. “I knew I didn’t understand math concepts very well. I knew that it was something that took me a longer time (than classmates),” she recalled.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So she was pleasantly surprised when one of the first assignments from teacher Sarah Strong required no calculating. Instead, Strong asked the class to write a letter to math – as if it were a person. These \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/60108/using-dear-math-letters-to-overcome-dread-in-math-class\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Dear Math” letters\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> are a tool that Strong developed as a way to understand students’ relationship to math, which researchers call \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://journals.library.columbia.edu/index.php/jmetc/article/view/9187/4897\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">mathematical identity\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. What Strong learns from these letters informs how she teaches individual students and whole classes throughout the year. Often that means working to disrupt the negative beliefs that students hold about their math abilities, which tend to revolve around comparisons to classmates, like “fast” vs. “slow” or “math person” vs. “not a math person.”\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Strong models the Dear Math activity by reading her own letter to math. Then she gives students prompts, such as:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What is one of your greatest mathematical strengths?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How do you plan to engage with math in the future?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What would you like more of in math classrooms?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Paris, who is now 20, was excited to apply her writing skills in math, but also to unpack some of her deeply rooted emotions about math. “I was finally able to write all of the things that made me sad and things that made me mad, like everything into one letter, addressing math directly,” she said. Here’s what she wrote in 10th grade: \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"padding-left: 40px\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dear Math, \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, do I have some things to say to you. You’ve followed me through every school year, caused me the worst headaches, and given me numerous counts of anxiety just thinking about you … The memories of my seventh grade math teacher telling me ‘maybe you’re just not a math person’ still ringing in my head and the constant Bs and Cs are still imprinted in my mind. You’ve been a never ending challenge and struggle, and it’s always been hard to understand you. No matter how many times my friends and teachers explain you, I never grasp you completely.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For Paris, having a teacher acknowledge emotions in math class was \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/54980/why-teachers-want-math-with-more-human-ties\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">humanizing\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. “She recognized my experience as a part of this really big experience that so many other people have. And that was really validating,” Paris said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Strong devotes a few hours to reading the letters, making notes about broad patterns and individual details. “It’s the beginning of an ongoing story between you and the students and their math experience for that semester or year, and it’s really important to start by listening to them well,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Hierarchy in math education\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Strong teaches at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.hightechhigh.org/about/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">High Tech High\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> and its Graduate School of Education in San Diego. She developed the Dear Math routine almost a decade ago, and she published a book about it, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.10publications.com/dear-math\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dear Math: Why Kids Hate Math And What Teachers Can Do About It\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, co-authored by her former\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">student Gigi Butterfield. In it, the teacher and former student reflect on the themes across hundreds of letters. One pervasive theme is hierarchy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Kids as young as kindergarten and first grade are defining themselves as good at math or not good at math,” said \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/amynoelleparks\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Amy Parks\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, an elementary math education researcher at Michigan State University. Much of that definition comes from how they rank among classmates – from timed tests, to ‘high’ and ‘low’ groups, to subtle cues in teachers’ language. “I’ve been in classrooms where teachers have had kids line up by how many questions they answered or how many things they got right,” Parks said. “These hierarchies get reinforced so often and in so many different ways it’s almost overwhelming.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For many kids, the comparisons add up to a negative self-perception around math. And by the time they reach high school, that mathematical identity can feel immutable. But math class doesn’t have to be this way. “Teachers and parents can affect the way kids think about these things,” said \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://mathematizing4all.com/about-the-author/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rachel Lambert\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, a professor and researcher at University of California, Santa Barbara.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There’s a stubborn cultural \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/54389/3-ways-to-shape-math-into-a-positive-experience\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">myth that some of us are “math people” and some of us aren’t\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. This idea gets repeated explicitly all the time, and often \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aah6524\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">implicitly with gendered and racialized associations\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. But neuroscience shows that \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youcubed.org/resources/brain-science/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">everyone is capable of learning math\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, and Lambert said \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/57997/how-to-build-students-math-confidence-with-culturally-sustaining-teaching-practices\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">it matters that kids hear that\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. “Students connect subjects to teachers in a pretty intense way that I think as adults we often forget. So if they feel their math teacher believes in them as a human being and believes in their competence in mathematics, that can make a huge difference,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In Strong’s classroom, listening to students’ stories is the first step toward disrupting those hierarchies. She also looks for ways to highlight students’ mathematical thinking on a daily basis. One way she does this is by having multiple students write their problem-solving ideas on the whiteboard and asking other students to comment on what they like about the strategies they see. Another routine is an exit ticket that asks students to share something they learned from a classmate that day. She might share the details the next day with a student who was mentioned or with the whole class if there’s a bigger lesson in it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Math is for everyone\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Isabela Avila, another of Strong’s former students, said these kinds of practices created a sense of community: “It was never even like a question of did you get it right or wrong. It just seemed like we were always just all learning together as a class.” She had Strong as a teacher twice and wrote Dear Math letters both times. In her letter as a sophomore, her self-doubts showed up in the first sentence:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"padding-left: 40px\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dear Math, I really like you, but you don’t come naturally to me. I have to work extra hard to understand and fully conceptualize what you have to offer.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In her letter as a senior, Avila wrote about her math growth over the prior two years:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"padding-left: 40px\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I developed a sense of patience and open mindedness for the first time ever. … I know this will help me a lot in college and beyond, and I look forward to using it in the future.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Avila got to the highly competitive environment of Johns Hopkins University, however, the usual order of things returned. “I really struggled a lot with comparing myself, especially in math,” she said, discussing her freshman year. “And I just found that to be super, super counterproductive for both my learning and my self esteem.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Strong said her own math story has had a lot of highs and lows, too. Though she can’t protect students from the ways math is taught and talked about beyond her classroom, her hope is that before they leave high school, “they start to see themselves as mathematicians in new ways and that they start to see their peers as mathematically brilliant in new ways.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For Avila, the persistence she developed in high school did pay off in the long, emotionally tough hours of college calculus. “I feel like how you think about yourself and how fast you are to get back up and keep trying is really, truly so much more important than if you can actually do the math,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Fast and slow\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Paris, Strong’s former student who liked expressing her emotions in a Dear Math letter, still remembers the heart-racing stress that accompanied \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/61712/do-math-drills-help-children-learn\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">timed multiplication tests\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> in third grade. In Strong’s classroom, she said, there was never a timer. When Paris needed extra support, Strong brought out old algebra textbooks to reinforce foundational concepts. She designed projects where Paris could make connections between math and art – a subject that she already loved. Most importantly, Strong helped Paris learn how to break down complex problems into smaller steps. “Which is such a simple concept, but it didn’t even cross my mind that I could do that in math,” said Paris. “And that taking my time in math meant that I was being a mathematician.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“Many students have this conception that they’re the only one who’s taking time to understand this concept, that everybody around them has already got it,” said Lambert, the UC Santa Barbara professor. Lambert suggested that teachers can reduce the rush of the pacing calendar by thinking of it not as going slowly but choosing where to invest time. “You can’t do every standard every year with your students. You have to figure out what is worth investment, and then spend more time with those topics so that students feel that they have enough time learning those things,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In Strong’s view, this requires shifting away from math instruction that is built around the ideas the teacher wants to get to in a given period. Student-centered instruction requires a lot more listening, she said: “Listening first off to their stories and how they’re showing up to class, and then second off (listening to) the ways that they are thinking of and understanding and making sense of mathematical ideas.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Paris, who had Strong as a teacher for three years, said that time transformed her. She now works at a bridal shop, where she was recently promoted from stylist to sales manager – a role that involves a lot of math. “If I want to teach my stylists how to increase their productivity in their sales, then I need to think like a mathematician and come up with the ways that I can do that,” she explained. In tenth grade, that would have scared her. Not now. “There’s no reason for me to be afraid of math because I’ve proven to myself time and time again that I can do it,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC8301605465&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Welcome to MindShift, where we explore the future of learning and how we raise our kids. I’m Kara Newhouse.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’m Nimah Gobir.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today we’re talking about math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Because it involves numbers and formulas, we often think of math as straightforward and objective.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But learning math is actually packed with emotions. I met a high school teacher who starts the year with an unusual assignment. She has her students write a letter to math, describing their feelings about the subject. Here’s that teacher, Sarah Strong.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A Dear Math letter is a letter that students write to math as if math were personified sitting across the table from them. … And it really helps inform teachers better understand the students stories and experiences that they’re coming to class with so that teachers can better design math experiences for students to thrive and flourish in math class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We’ll hear more from Sarah later in the episode. First, here’s part of a Dear Math letter from one of her former students, Taylor Paris.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Reading letter\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">] Dear math, Oh, do I have some things to say to you. You’ve followed me throughout every school year, caused me the worst headaches, and given me numerous counts of anxiety just thinking about you … The memories of my seventh grade math teacher telling me, ‘Maybe you’re just not a math person’ still ringing in my head, and the constant Bs and Cs are still imprinted in my mind. You’ve been a never ending challenge and struggle, and it’s always been hard to understand you. No matter how many times my friends and teachers explain you, I never grasp you completely.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The anxiety and frustration that Taylor described in her letter are familiar feelings for many young people. And by the time students get to high school, it can feel like if they don’t understand math now, they never will.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But math doesn’t have to be this way.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When we get back from the break, we’ll hear more about Dear Math letters and how they help students like Taylor strengthen their mathematical identities.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Taylor Paris graduated high school a few years ago, but she still remembers the first week of tenth grade math with her teacher Sarah Strong. That’s when students wrote letters to math, as if it were a person.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I remember being so excited because basically you’re writing in math, and that’s never the case.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Interdisciplinary learning allows students to think about a subject from new perspectives. For Taylor, writing the Dear Math letter gave her a chance to reflect on how her early school years shaped her relationship to math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I remember, my first, like, scariness of math was long division, because it was like so abstract to me, and everyone around me understood it and was just like, ‘Yeah, well that’s just the way it is and that’s totally fine.’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Writing about those memories was cathartic. It also helped Taylor feel connected to her teacher.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I have never had a math teacher talk about emotions behind math ever. Like, truly ever … She recognized my experience as a part of this really big experience that so many other people have. And that was really validating.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Her teacher, Sarah Strong, also made it clear that it was okay for those feelings to surface throughout the year. Which made it possible for Taylor to focus on actually learning math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She did a great job at making me feel like I could take a really complex problem and break it down to the bare bones of it, which is such a simple concept. But it didn’t even cross my mind that I could do that in math and that taking my time in math meant that I was being a mathematician. And that’s what mathematicians did, was take their time and work on problems slowly to really understand every aspect.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I met Taylor, she had just been promoted from a stylist to a sales manager at a bridal shop in San Diego. That’s a fashion job that involves a lot of math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So stylists are responsible for obviously, you know, the customer service side of things, but on the sales side, there is a certain goal that you need to meet or would ideally meet day to day and kind of week to day, month to day. …\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so when you think about it, sales is like one big math problem every day because there’s a question, there’s an answer that you have to get to, and then there’s variables that go into, you know, the answer to your problem, essentially.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Taylor is 20. Not that long ago, doing a math-related job would have been unimaginable to her.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you told sophomore year Taylor that I would be doing something that was directly correlated with math and numbers all the time, I would be terrified and probably laugh.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Taylor had Sarah Strong as a math teacher from 10th grade through 12th grade. She said that those years totally changed her view of math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taylor Paris: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so while I may have been scared to take a sales manager position at, you know, in my sophomore year, it makes a ton of sense for me now because what I do is help people find their wedding dress. And who would have thought that math was in finding a wedding dress?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Taylor now sees herself as a doer of math. This is what’s called mathematical identity.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We did an episode featuring Chris Emdin, who talked about students’ STEM identities. Mathematical identity is one form of a STEM identity.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mathematical identity is a way that students see themselves as a mathematician, and therefore it connects to the ways that they enter into mathematical spaces and connect with other mathematicians around them.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s teacher Sarah Strong again. She created the Dear Math activity during a bigger project where students were exploring their mathematical identities. They were using different types of math as metaphors for their experiences. And Sarah wanted to add a writing component to that project.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And one of my colleagues shared with me the idea of writing letters to a thing like books or basketball, and how she’d heard of that practice. And she thought I could do Dear Math letters, and I thought that was an amazing idea. So I ran with it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The letters were powerful. And Sarah realized that having students write them at the beginning of the year could help her teach each class better. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here’s how she does it now. She introduces the assignment during the first week of school. She reads her own Dear Math letter as a model, because most students aren’t used to writing in math class. Hearing her letter also lets them know that even though she teaches math, it hasn’t always been easy for her.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">After reading her letter, Sarah gives her students prompts for writing their own. Questions like…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What is one of your greatest mathematical strengths?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How do you plan to engage with math in the future?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What would you like more of in math classrooms?\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They spend 15 to 30 minutes writing in class. Anyone who wants to write more can finish at home.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Then Sarah reads the letters on her own. She says this is the most important step.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘Cause it’s the beginning of an ongoing story between you and the students and their math experience for that semester or year, and it’s really important to start by listening to them well.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She first looks for broad patterns across the class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If I’ve got a disproportionate amount of students that hate math, don’t think they’re mathematicians, that I have to be really intentional about my class design, where I am regularly noticing and calling out their mathematical strengths and giving them opportunities to see themselves as mathematicians and see each other as mathematicians.\u003c/span> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Or do I have a lot of students who, who feel like ‘I am a really strong mathematician. Ever since I was young, I get all the right answers. I’m really fast.’ Then I can note that that’s a trend in the class and be thinking how I can continue to push those students while also broadening their understanding of how they are mathematical and how important it is to also listen to other students’ ways of being mathematical.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She also reads the letters for individual details about things students love and things that trip them up. She might make a few notes and …\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Check in with students like, ‘Gosh, I remember you said that you had a really hard time with the idea of percents and like whenever percents come up, you panic. Well, tomorrow we’re going to need some percents in our work with exponential functions. And so I wanted to make sure that you knew that I believe that you’ve got this. If you want to do a little practice beforehand, we can do that because I want you to feel confident. I don’t want some story from sixth grade impacting your confidence in what we’re working on right now.’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sarah said that getting to know students was always important to her. Even before she created the Dear Math assignment.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I would often try to connect with them in a variety of ways and I would hear their comments here and there that were both positive and negative. And I always tried to be a really good listener and understand my students’ feelings.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But she wasn’t always getting a full picture.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sometimes I think I was being a little delusional before I got to hear their whole stories because I would think, ‘Oh, they had really negative experiences. They don’t like math, but now that they’re in my class, everything’s going to be fine.’\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The letters helped her take off her rose-colored glasses.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It wasn’t until I started having them write Dear Math letters that I got to hear more complete stories and gain a bigger picture for their previous experience and how those experiences were informing the ways they were showing up to my class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That knowledge enables her to help students grow as math learners throughout the year.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Strong:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">My biggest hope is that they start to see themselves as mathematicians in new ways and that they start to see their peers as mathematically brilliant in new ways.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nimah, it would be great if writing a Dear Math letter helped all students see themselves as capable of doing math – the way it did for Taylor Paris.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It would. But of course not every student’s math story is linear.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No… Some math stories go up and down over time, like a periodic function. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hey, nice math analogy! \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I got that one from Sarah Strong. She described her own math story that way. It also applies to another of her former students, Isabela Avila. Here’s the start of a Dear Math letter Isabela wrote in tenth grade.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Reading letter\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">] Dear Math, I really like you, but you don’t come naturally to me. I have to work extra hard to understand and fully conceptualize what you have to offer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In previous math classes, Isabela felt pressure to always be fast and have the right answer. But she told me that expectation wasn’t there in Sarah Strong’s class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It was never even like a question of like, did you get it right or wrong? It was just seemed like we were always just all learning together, as a class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> That sense of togetherness mattered. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And like, I think that really helped me like number one, like, think highly of myself as like a problem solver and also … be confident in my ideas.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Isabela had Sarah Strong as a teacher twice, and she wrote a Dear Math letter both times. You can hear her increased confidence in the letter she wrote as a senior.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Reading letter\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">] The most mathematical growth I feel I have ever experienced was during my junior year. I felt confident in my algebra skills for the first time ever. … My mindset also shifted drastically. I developed a sense of patience and open mindedness for the first time ever. … I know this will help me a lot in college and beyond, and I look forward to using it in the future. Sincerely, Isabela Avila.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When Isabela actually got to college, the transition was rocky. She’s a pre-med major at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our like math department is known for being like notoriously hard.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> All around her, Isabela saw classmates who had come from elite high schools and seemed to understand calculus more easily than she did.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I really struggled a lot with like comparing myself, especially in math. And I just found that to be super, super counter-productive for both my learning and like my self esteem.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sometimes she would break down crying while doing homework, which could take eight hours to complete. In class, she didn’t participate as much as she had hoped to.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I just really didn’t want to sound like I didn’t know what I was talking about or like, not that I don’t belong there, but I don’t know. It was just, everyone around me was so smart. And I know, like, tests don’t define you, but everyone around me, like, even if they were starting in calc one, they, like, got fives on like the AP calc exams and did exceptionally well.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Back in high school, Isabela had written in one of her letters that she’d had a lot of highs and lows with math. Freshman year of college was definitely another low.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I talked to her during her sophomore year at Johns Hopkins, being a premed major was still very stressful. Something that helped, though, was making friends who didn’t talk about grades.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We don’t talk about, like, what score we got. We don’t talk about how we’re doing in the class. We don’t talk about — honestly we don’t talk that much about like our actual like school. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And she said the persistence that she developed in high school did help her get through calculus.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Isabela Avila:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Especially in math here in college, like, I feel like how you think about yourself and like how fast you are to like, get back up and keep trying is really, truly so much more important than if you can actually do the math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Kara, the way Isabela compared herself to her calculus classmates isn’t unique to being at a university full of high achievers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> That’s right. Sarah Strong said those comparisons have been pervasive in students’ Dear Math letters. And according to experts, this kind of thinking starts early.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Researchers say even kindergarteners start to notice their spot in the pecking order of math ability.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It often starts with those one-minute math quizzes that so many of us remember.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sound of pencils scribbling and slamming down\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Students might hear their classmates furiously scribbling answers and slamming their pencils down when they finish. They equate that with being “good” at math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And there are lots of other ways in school that students are ranked and sorted. In younger grades, teachers often group students by ability when they’re practicing math. In upper grades, students may get tracked into ‘regular’ and ‘advanced’ classes. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some teachers will even publicly display kids’ progress in certain math skills. This can look like a bulletin board that uses paper ice cream scoops to represent how many multiplication facts each student knows.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One researcher I talked to had a lot of ideas about how to disrupt hierarchies in math education. This is Rachel Lambert, from University of California, Santa Barbara.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think if there’s one one thing I’d like to communicate, it’s that teachers and parents can affect the way kids think about these things.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rachel shared five tips that teachers can use to help kids stop comparing themselves to others in math. The first tip is to change the narrative about who can do math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Students would tell me how much it mattered to them to hear their teacher say, ‘There is no difference in who can be good at math.’ Like very clear messages around race and gender and the clear message that there is no one group of people that is better in math than other people, those students told me that was helpful to them.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Changing the narrative isn’t just about what we say to kids. It’s also about how teachers talk to each other. And how they group students in class.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We might think as teachers – and I was a teacher for over 10 years – that kids don’t know that we might be calling them low kids or high kids when we’re having lunch with other teachers. … But they know, they always know and they know how they’re being grouped and classified and seen. … If we decide that kids are going to do well in mathematics, we do a lot of things in our teaching to set them up for success day after day. If we think kids will fail when we hand them a mathematical task, we’re doing subtle things to set them up for failure every single time we do that. So if we put them in groups that never change, we’re teaching them who they are and we’re also affecting who they become, because we’re only allowing them opportunities to do things quote-unquote at their level. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rachel’s second tip for teachers is to stop focusing on speed. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Think of it not as a matter of going slow. Think of it as investing in certain things. So you can’t hit everything on your pacing calendar. You can’t do every standard every year with your students. You have to figure out what is worth investment and what is worth extra time, and then spend more time with those topics so that students feel that they have enough time learning those things.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Her third tip is to normalize mistakes. It can help students learn from each other’s thinking when you have them share their mistakes. Rachel told me about a teacher who did this.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She would even put a little heart next to a mistake and she’d be, ‘This was my favorite mistake of the day.’ And she drew a little heart next to it. And the kids would go, ‘awww.’ It’s adorable.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Tip number four is to give students problems that can be approached from multiple angles.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert:\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I see that some kids really love to engage in the visual aspect of a problem. Other students like to make, say, an organized list. And that doesn’t mean – there’s no such thing as learning styles; it doesn’t mean that that’s the way they’re going to approach every problem, but it does mean that a problem that draws on multiple ways of engaging can be more rich mathematically and also disrupt ideas of who’s the best at math and who isn’t.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rachel Lambert’s fifth and final tip is to make supports available to everyone.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Rachel Lambert: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That is the one of the simplest interventions you can do in math to make it more equitable … And it doesn’t send any negative messages to kids because they are choosing if they want to use a calculator. They are choosing if they want to hear the directions a second time. They are choosing if they use manipulatives.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Making these resources available to everyone takes the teacher’s assumptions out of the equation. And it helps kids develop the skills to recognize what they need to succeed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kara, there are some people who say math teachers should just focus on content. That activities like writing letters to math are more about self-esteem than learning.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">These goals don’t have to be separate. Direct instruction and problem-solving practice are essential parts of math education. But like we said at the beginning, doing math involves emotions. Although we’ve heard a lot about the frustrating parts of math, it can also evoke positive emotions.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kids who are absorbed in math problem-solving often express wonder and excitement.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Listening to young people’s stories and honoring all of these emotions allows students to be more human in math class. And that doesn’t just make them \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">believe \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">in their math abilities, it empowers them to learn math and to do math.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[\u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Music\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This episode would not have been possible without Sarah Strong. To learn more about Dear Math letters, you can read the book she wrote with her former student, Gigi Butterfield. The book is called, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dear Math: Why Kids Hate Math and What Teachers Can Do About It.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thanks also to Taylor Paris, Isabela Avila, Rachel Lambert and Amy Parks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The MindShift team includes Nimah Gobir, Ki Sung, Marlena Jackson-Retondo and me, Kara Newhouse.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our editor is Chris Hambrick. Chris Hoff engineered this episode.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Additional support from Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Cesar Saldaña and Holly Kernan.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">MindShift is supported in part by the generosity of the William & Flora Hewlett Foundation and members of KQED.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Nimah Gobir:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> If you love MindShift, and enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend. We really appreciate it. You can also read more or subscribe to our newsletter at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://kqed.org/mindshift\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">kqed.org/mindshift\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kara Newhouse:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Thank you for listening to Season 8 of the MindShift podcast. That’s it for these deep dive episodes. We’re taking a little break, but we’ll be back soon with new episodes featuring conversations about big ideas in education. 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Parents often caution their kids against sharing too much information online, weary about how all that data gets used. But one Texas high schooler wants to use that digital footprint to save lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Siddhu Pachipala is a senior at The Woodlands College Park High School, in a suburb outside Houston. He’s been thinking about psychology since seventh grade, when he read \u003cem>Thinking, Fast and Slow \u003c/em>by psychologist Daniel Kahneman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Concerned about teen suicide, Pachipala saw a role for artificial intelligence in detecting risk before it’s too late. In his view, it takes too long to get kids help when they’re suffering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://afsp.org/risk-factors-protective-factors-and-warning-signs\">Early warning signs of suicide\u003c/a>, like persistent feelings of hopelessness, changes in mood and sleep patterns, are often missed by loved ones. “So it’s hard to get people spotted,” says Pachipala.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For a local science fair, he designed an app that uses AI to scan text for signs of suicide risk. He thinks it could, someday, help replace outdated methods of diagnosis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our writing patterns can reflect what we’re thinking, but it hasn’t really been extended to this extent,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The app won him national recognition, a trip to D.C., and \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXMGHReRtEY\">a speech on behalf of his peers\u003c/a>. It’s one of many efforts under way to use AI to help young people with their mental health and to better identify when they’re at risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Experts point out that this kind of AI, called natural language processing, \u003ca href=\"https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~ylataus/files/TausczikPennebaker2010.pdf\">has been around since the mid-1990s\u003c/a>. And, it’s not a panacea. “Machine learning is helping us get better. As we get more and more data, we’re able to improve the system,” says Matt Nock, a professor of psychology at Harvard University, who studies self-harm in young people. “But chat bots aren’t going to be the silver bullet.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Colorado-based psychologist Nathaan Demers, who oversees mental health websites and apps, says that personalized tools like Pachipala’s could help fill a void. “When you walk into CVS, there’s that blood pressure cuff,” Demers said. “And maybe that’s the first time that someone realizes, ‘Oh, I have high blood pressure. I had no idea.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He hasn’t seen Pachipala’s app but theorizes that innovations like his raise self-awareness about underlying mental health issues that might otherwise go unrecognized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Building SuiSensor\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_61667\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 160px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-61667\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/05/pachipala_siddhu_031123_029_ca_cf__custom-88b8678fceb876c366626fd9902ef1d71eaf4ffd-160x240.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"160\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/05/pachipala_siddhu_031123_029_ca_cf__custom-88b8678fceb876c366626fd9902ef1d71eaf4ffd-160x240.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/05/pachipala_siddhu_031123_029_ca_cf__custom-88b8678fceb876c366626fd9902ef1d71eaf4ffd.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Siddhu Pachipala \u003ccite>(Chris Ayers Photography/Society for Science)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Pachipala set himself to designing an app that someone could download to take a self-assessment of their suicide risk. They could use their results to advocate for their care needs and get connected with providers. After many late nights spent coding, he had \u003cem>SuiSensor\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Using sample data from a medical study, based on journal entries by adults, Pachipala said \u003cem>SuiSensor\u003c/em> predicted suicide risk with 98% accuracy. Although it was only a prototype, the app could also generate a contact list of local clinicians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the fall of his senior year of high school, Pachipala entered his research into the \u003ca href=\"https://www.societyforscience.org/blog/students-win-at-2023-regeneron-science-talent-search/\">Regeneron Science Talent Search\u003c/a>, an 81-year-old national science and math competition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There, panels of judges grilled him on his knowledge of psychology and general science with questions like: “Explain how pasta boils. … OK, now let’s say we brought that into space. What happens now?” Pachipala recalled. “You walked out of those panels and you were battered and bruised, but, like, better for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He placed \u003ca href=\"https://hellowoodlands.com/twcps-siddhu-pachipala-named-a-top-winner-in-regeneron-science-talent-search/\">ninth overall\u003c/a> at the competition and took home a $50,000 prize.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://investor.regeneron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/students-win-more-18-million-2023-regeneron-science-talent\">The judges found that\u003c/a>, “His work suggests that the semantics in an individual’s writing could be correlated with their psychological health and risk of suicide.” While the app is not currently downloadable, Pachipala hopes that, as an undergraduate at MIT, he can continue working on it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think we don’t do that enough: trying to address [suicide intervention] from an innovation perspective,” he said. “I think that we’ve stuck to the status quo for a long time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Current AI mental health applications\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How does his invention fit into broader efforts to use AI in mental health? Experts note that there are many such efforts underway, and Matt Nock, for one, expressed concerns about false alarms. He applies \u003ca href=\"https://www.ibm.com/topics/machine-learning\">machine learning\u003c/a> to electronic health records to identify people who are at risk for suicide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The majority of our predictions are false positives,” he said. “Is there a cost there? Does it do harm to tell someone that they’re at risk of suicide when really they’re not?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And data privacy expert Elizabeth Laird has concerns about implementing such approaches in schools in particular, given the lack of research. She directs the \u003ca href=\"https://cdt.org/insights/equity-in-civic-technology-project-faqs/\">Equity in Civic Technology Project\u003c/a> at the Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While acknowledging that “we have a mental health crisis and we should be doing whatever we can to prevent students from harming themselves,” she remains skeptical about the lack of “independent evidence that these tools do that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All this attention on AI comes as youth suicide rates (and risk) are on the rise. Although there’s a lag in the data, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/disparities-in-suicide.html\">suicide is the second leading cause of death\u003c/a> for youth and young adults ages 10 to 24 in the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Efforts like Pachipala’s fit into a broad range of AI-backed tools available to track youth mental health, accessible to clinicians and nonprofessionals alike. Some schools are using activity monitoring software that scans devices for warning signs of a student doing harm to themselves or others. One concern though, is that once these red flags surface, that information can be used to discipline students rather than support them, “and that that discipline falls along racial lines,” Laird said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://cdt.org/insights/report-hidden-harms-the-misleading-promise-of-monitoring-students-online/\">a survey\u003c/a> Laird shared, 70% of teachers whose schools use data-tracking software said it was used to discipline students. Schools can stay within the bounds of \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/ferpa.html#:~:text=The%20Family%20Educational%20Rights%20and,%2C%20or%20post%2Dsecondary%20school.\">student record privacy laws\u003c/a>, but fail to implement safeguards that protect them from unintended consequences, Laird said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The conversation around privacy has shifted from just one of legal compliance to what is actually ethical and right,” she said. She points to survey data that shows \u003ca href=\"https://cdt.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Hidden-Harms-The-Misleading-Promise-of-Monitoring-Students-Online-Research-Report-Final-Accessible.pdf\">nearly 1 in 3 LGBTQ+ students\u003c/a> report they’ve been outed, or know someone who has been outed, as a consequence of activity monitoring software.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Matt Nock, the Harvard researcher, recognizes the place of AI in crunching numbers. He uses machine learning technology similar to Pachipala’s to analyze medical records. But he stresses that much more experimentation is needed to vet computational assessments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of this work is really well-intended, trying to use machine learning, artificial intelligence to improve people’s mental health … but unless we do the research, we’re not going to know if this is the right solution,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More students and families are \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/03/15/1163617428/schools-across-the-country-say-more-students-are-asking-for-mental-health-servic\">turning to schools for mental health support\u003c/a>. Software that scans young peoples’ words, and by extension thoughts, is one approach to taking the pulse on youth mental health. But, it can’t take the place of human interaction, Nock said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Technology is going to help us, we hope, get better at knowing who is at risk and knowing when,” he said. “But people want to see humans; they want to talk to humans.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2023 NPR. 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Parents often caution their kids against sharing too much information online, weary about how all that data gets used. But one Texas high schooler wants to use that digital footprint to save lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Siddhu Pachipala is a senior at The Woodlands College Park High School, in a suburb outside Houston. He’s been thinking about psychology since seventh grade, when he read \u003cem>Thinking, Fast and Slow \u003c/em>by psychologist Daniel Kahneman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Concerned about teen suicide, Pachipala saw a role for artificial intelligence in detecting risk before it’s too late. In his view, it takes too long to get kids help when they’re suffering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://afsp.org/risk-factors-protective-factors-and-warning-signs\">Early warning signs of suicide\u003c/a>, like persistent feelings of hopelessness, changes in mood and sleep patterns, are often missed by loved ones. “So it’s hard to get people spotted,” says Pachipala.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For a local science fair, he designed an app that uses AI to scan text for signs of suicide risk. He thinks it could, someday, help replace outdated methods of diagnosis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Our writing patterns can reflect what we’re thinking, but it hasn’t really been extended to this extent,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The app won him national recognition, a trip to D.C., and \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXMGHReRtEY\">a speech on behalf of his peers\u003c/a>. It’s one of many efforts under way to use AI to help young people with their mental health and to better identify when they’re at risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Experts point out that this kind of AI, called natural language processing, \u003ca href=\"https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~ylataus/files/TausczikPennebaker2010.pdf\">has been around since the mid-1990s\u003c/a>. And, it’s not a panacea. “Machine learning is helping us get better. As we get more and more data, we’re able to improve the system,” says Matt Nock, a professor of psychology at Harvard University, who studies self-harm in young people. “But chat bots aren’t going to be the silver bullet.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Colorado-based psychologist Nathaan Demers, who oversees mental health websites and apps, says that personalized tools like Pachipala’s could help fill a void. “When you walk into CVS, there’s that blood pressure cuff,” Demers said. “And maybe that’s the first time that someone realizes, ‘Oh, I have high blood pressure. I had no idea.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He hasn’t seen Pachipala’s app but theorizes that innovations like his raise self-awareness about underlying mental health issues that might otherwise go unrecognized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Building SuiSensor\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_61667\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 160px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-61667\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/05/pachipala_siddhu_031123_029_ca_cf__custom-88b8678fceb876c366626fd9902ef1d71eaf4ffd-160x240.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"160\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/05/pachipala_siddhu_031123_029_ca_cf__custom-88b8678fceb876c366626fd9902ef1d71eaf4ffd-160x240.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/05/pachipala_siddhu_031123_029_ca_cf__custom-88b8678fceb876c366626fd9902ef1d71eaf4ffd.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Siddhu Pachipala \u003ccite>(Chris Ayers Photography/Society for Science)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Pachipala set himself to designing an app that someone could download to take a self-assessment of their suicide risk. They could use their results to advocate for their care needs and get connected with providers. After many late nights spent coding, he had \u003cem>SuiSensor\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Using sample data from a medical study, based on journal entries by adults, Pachipala said \u003cem>SuiSensor\u003c/em> predicted suicide risk with 98% accuracy. Although it was only a prototype, the app could also generate a contact list of local clinicians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the fall of his senior year of high school, Pachipala entered his research into the \u003ca href=\"https://www.societyforscience.org/blog/students-win-at-2023-regeneron-science-talent-search/\">Regeneron Science Talent Search\u003c/a>, an 81-year-old national science and math competition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There, panels of judges grilled him on his knowledge of psychology and general science with questions like: “Explain how pasta boils. … OK, now let’s say we brought that into space. What happens now?” Pachipala recalled. “You walked out of those panels and you were battered and bruised, but, like, better for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He placed \u003ca href=\"https://hellowoodlands.com/twcps-siddhu-pachipala-named-a-top-winner-in-regeneron-science-talent-search/\">ninth overall\u003c/a> at the competition and took home a $50,000 prize.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://investor.regeneron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/students-win-more-18-million-2023-regeneron-science-talent\">The judges found that\u003c/a>, “His work suggests that the semantics in an individual’s writing could be correlated with their psychological health and risk of suicide.” While the app is not currently downloadable, Pachipala hopes that, as an undergraduate at MIT, he can continue working on it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think we don’t do that enough: trying to address [suicide intervention] from an innovation perspective,” he said. “I think that we’ve stuck to the status quo for a long time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Current AI mental health applications\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How does his invention fit into broader efforts to use AI in mental health? Experts note that there are many such efforts underway, and Matt Nock, for one, expressed concerns about false alarms. He applies \u003ca href=\"https://www.ibm.com/topics/machine-learning\">machine learning\u003c/a> to electronic health records to identify people who are at risk for suicide.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The majority of our predictions are false positives,” he said. “Is there a cost there? Does it do harm to tell someone that they’re at risk of suicide when really they’re not?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And data privacy expert Elizabeth Laird has concerns about implementing such approaches in schools in particular, given the lack of research. She directs the \u003ca href=\"https://cdt.org/insights/equity-in-civic-technology-project-faqs/\">Equity in Civic Technology Project\u003c/a> at the Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While acknowledging that “we have a mental health crisis and we should be doing whatever we can to prevent students from harming themselves,” she remains skeptical about the lack of “independent evidence that these tools do that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All this attention on AI comes as youth suicide rates (and risk) are on the rise. Although there’s a lag in the data, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/disparities-in-suicide.html\">suicide is the second leading cause of death\u003c/a> for youth and young adults ages 10 to 24 in the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Efforts like Pachipala’s fit into a broad range of AI-backed tools available to track youth mental health, accessible to clinicians and nonprofessionals alike. Some schools are using activity monitoring software that scans devices for warning signs of a student doing harm to themselves or others. One concern though, is that once these red flags surface, that information can be used to discipline students rather than support them, “and that that discipline falls along racial lines,” Laird said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://cdt.org/insights/report-hidden-harms-the-misleading-promise-of-monitoring-students-online/\">a survey\u003c/a> Laird shared, 70% of teachers whose schools use data-tracking software said it was used to discipline students. Schools can stay within the bounds of \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/ferpa.html#:~:text=The%20Family%20Educational%20Rights%20and,%2C%20or%20post%2Dsecondary%20school.\">student record privacy laws\u003c/a>, but fail to implement safeguards that protect them from unintended consequences, Laird said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The conversation around privacy has shifted from just one of legal compliance to what is actually ethical and right,” she said. She points to survey data that shows \u003ca href=\"https://cdt.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Hidden-Harms-The-Misleading-Promise-of-Monitoring-Students-Online-Research-Report-Final-Accessible.pdf\">nearly 1 in 3 LGBTQ+ students\u003c/a> report they’ve been outed, or know someone who has been outed, as a consequence of activity monitoring software.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Matt Nock, the Harvard researcher, recognizes the place of AI in crunching numbers. He uses machine learning technology similar to Pachipala’s to analyze medical records. But he stresses that much more experimentation is needed to vet computational assessments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of this work is really well-intended, trying to use machine learning, artificial intelligence to improve people’s mental health … but unless we do the research, we’re not going to know if this is the right solution,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More students and families are \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/03/15/1163617428/schools-across-the-country-say-more-students-are-asking-for-mental-health-servic\">turning to schools for mental health support\u003c/a>. Software that scans young peoples’ words, and by extension thoughts, is one approach to taking the pulse on youth mental health. But, it can’t take the place of human interaction, Nock said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Technology is going to help us, we hope, get better at knowing who is at risk and knowing when,” he said. “But people want to see humans; they want to talk to humans.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2023 NPR. 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Nationwide, the cost of remedial education exceeded\u003ca href=\"https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272775716304605\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> $1 billion \u003c/a>annually; many colleges operated separate departments of “developmental education,” higher-education’s euphemistic jargon for non-credit catch-up classes. “Nobody could tell me if we were doing it the right way,” Logue said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She suspected they weren’t. More than \u003ca href=\"https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2016/2016405.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">two-thirds of all community college students and 40 percent of undergraduates\u003c/a> in four-year colleges had to start with at least one remedial class, according to a statistical report from the U.S. Department of Education. The majority of these students dropped out without degrees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An experimental psychologist by training, Logue designed an experiment. She compared remedial math classes to the alternative of letting ill-prepared students proceed straight to a college course accompanied by extra help. The early results of her randomized control trial were so extraordinary that her study influenced not only CUNY in 2016 but also\u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/blog/ensuring-all-students-benefit-from-landmark-community-college-reform/#:~:text=What%20does%20the%20new%20law,actually%20enroll%20in%20those%20courses.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> California lawmakers in 2017\u003c/a> to start phasing out remedial education in their state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the seven years of Logue’s study, which took place at three of CUNY’s seven two-year community colleges, the results kept getting better. Students who started with college math were successfully passing the course at a fraction of the cost of remediation, getting their math requirements out of the way, earning their degrees faster and earning thousands more in the labor market. Many public colleges, from Nevada and Colorado to Connecticut and Tennessee, have followed suit, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ecs.org/50-state-comparison-developmental-education-policies/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">phasing out remedial ed\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other \u003ca href=\"https://completecollege.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/CCA_NoRoomForDoubt_CorequisiteSupport.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">data analyses\u003c/a> have also shown benefits to bypassing remedial education, but this was one of the only real-life experiments, like a clinical trial, and so it carried a lot of weight. Most importantly, it studied math, often an insurmountable requirement for many students to complete their college degrees. This study has arguably been one of the most influential attempts to use experimental evidence to change how higher education operates and is now affecting the lives of millions of college students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a great feeling of satisfaction,” said Logue, now a research professor at CUNY’s Graduate Center, “because it isn’t just CUNY. It’s across the country, using this really great evidence to help make things better.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The third and final chapter of this long-term study was \u003ca href=\"https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3102/0013189X221138848\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">published in the January/February 2023 issue of the journal Educational Researcher\u003c/a>, and as I pored over this body of research, I became confused about what it proved. The study could be seen as evidence against remedial education, but it could equally be seen as evidence for letting college students meet their math requirements without taking algebra.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The confusion stems from the study design. Instead of testing remedial versus college algebra, which would be a direct test of remedial education, the study compared remedial algebra to college statistics, a sort of apples to oranges comparison. In the experiment, CUNY randomly assigned almost 300 students who failed the algebra portion of a math placement test to an introductory statistics course. In tandem with this college class, students attended an extra two-hour workshop each week where a college classmate who had already passed the class tutored them. Researchers then compared what happened to these stats students with a similar group of almost 300 students who were sent to remedial algebra, the traditional first step for students who fail the algebra subtest. Logue had the same teachers teach sections of both courses – remedial algebra and college stats – so that no one could argue instructional quality was different. Also, only students who struggled with algebra, but not arithmetic, were part of this experiment; students with more severe math difficulties, as measured by the freshman placement test, weren’t asked to attempt the college course and were excluded from the control group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By all measures, the students who went straight to college stats did better. More than half of the students who bypassed remedial algebra passed the stats class and earned college credit. Ultimately, these students finished their degrees a lot faster than those who started off in remedial algebra. They were 50 percent more likely to complete a two-year associate’s degree within three years and, according to the latest chapter of this seven-year study, they were twice as likely to transfer to a four-year institution and complete a bachelor’s degree within five years. Seven years after bypassing remedial ed, students were earning $4,600 more a year in the workplace, on average, than those who started in remedial math.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What we can say is, for students who have been assigned to remediation, put them into statistics with extra help, and you will get a good result,” said Logue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some researchers argue that the shift to statistics might have made the difference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That switch from algebra to stats is a big one for a lot of students,” said Lindsay Daugherty, a senior policy researcher at the RAND Corporation who has studied remedial education and efforts to reform it. She said all the other studies that have looked at replacing remedial classes with college courses plus extra support haven’t produced better graduation rates. “This CUNY study is the only one,” said Daugherty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The only other randomized control trial of remedial education is Daugherty’s Texas experiment to \u003ca href=\"https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19345747.2021.1932000\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">replace remedial English courses\u003c/a> with college courses plus extra support. Going straight to college courses helped more students earn college credits in English but that didn’t help them get through college. Dropout rates were the same for students in both the remedial and the “corequisite” courses, as the college plus extra help version is often called.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We know that the way that we did it before with these standalone [remedial] courses was not helping students, and most states and colleges have made a change and are moving towards corequisites,” said Daugherty. “But the evidence does not suggest that these corequisite courses are the magic potion that is going to change completion and persistence. It’s going to take a lot more and a lot of other support.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What we don’t know from this study is how to help students who are behind in math learn college algebra, a course that is similar to intermediate high school algebra, which remains a requirement for many business, health and engineering majors. All the students in this landmark CUNY study had intended to major in non-STEM fields that didn’t require algebra, such as criminal justice and the humanities, and for which college statistics would fulfill their math requirements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Logue originally sought to conduct a simpler, cleaner study of only algebra, comparing the remedial prerequisite to the college course plus tutoring support. But she ran into problems with the algebra faculty. (There were too many different versions of college algebra for different majors and across different colleges at CUNY, each covering different topics, she said, and it was impossible to test one version of a basic college algebra course.) Meanwhile, the statistics department was open to the experiment and their introductory courses were very similar from professor to professor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s unclear from this study how essential the weekly tutoring sessions were to helping students pass the statistics course. The experiment didn’t test whether students could pass the normal college stats class without peer tutoring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The good news is that the switch from remedial algebra to college stats didn’t seem to harm anyone. Indeed, the students in the statistics group were just as likely to complete advanced math courses, along the algebra-to-calculus track, as students who started with remedial algebra, according to co-author Daniel Douglas, director of social science research at Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut, who led the data analysis. In the final number crunching, the stats students were just as likely to complete math-intensive degrees that required college algebra. Starting with stats didn’t thwart students from changing their minds about their majors and returning to an algebra-to-calculus track, Douglas said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bad news is that a lot of community college students still fell through the cracks. Although there was a 50 percent boost to the number of students who completed an associate’s degree within three years, only a quarter of the statistics students hit this milestone. Almost three-quarters didn’t. And though bypassing math remediation and heading straight to college stats led to a 100 percent increase in the number of bachelor’s degrees, only 14 percent of the statistics students earned a four-year degree.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The main benefit of allowing students to bypass remedial classes is speed, according to Douglas. Over the course of seven years, the students who started in remedial algebra eventually caught up and hit many of the same milestones as the students who started with statistics. “At the end of our data collection in the fall of 2020, their degree completion – the elementary algebra group and the stats group – they’re not that different,” said Douglas. As those students enter the workforce and gain experience, it’s quite possible that their wages will catch up too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A CUNY spokesperson told me that their college system stopped placing new students into remedial classes in the fall of 2022. For students who are behind in math, there are now “corequisite” math classes, where the extra support is more costly and differs from the tutoring that was tested in this study I am writing about here. Now the college-level course is two hours longer each week, blurring the lines between regular instruction and extra help support, and entirely taught by instructors, not peer tutors. Many instructors who used to teach remedial courses now teach these corequisite courses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For students who are significantly behind — struggling not only in algebra, but also in basic arithmetic — CUNY operates a separate pre-college program, called CUNY Start, where students take only remedial classes. These students haven’t yet matriculated at the college and don’t pay tuition, and so CUNY doesn’t count them as students. And the numbers of students in this \u003ca href=\"https://www1.cuny.edu/sites/cunystart/resources/how-are-we-doing/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">pre-college remedial program had been swelling before the pandemic.\u003c/a>*\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www1.cuny.edu/sites/cunystart/wp-content/uploads/sites/51/2021/03/CUNYStartWorkingpaper_rev.pdf\">Students did better in these newer pre-college remedial classes\u003c/a> than those who took traditional remedial classes, according to a separate 2021 study that Logue was also involved in. But these students aren’t necessarily doing better in college and earning more credits, unless they get a lot more advising and counseling support during their college years. Helping more young adults get through college isn’t going to be easy or cheap.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>*Clarification: This paragraph has been modified to reflect that the CUNY Start program dates to 2009 and the number of students in it grew during the 2010s. Enrollment in CUNY Start has decreased in recent years, mirroring the general drop in enrollment at community colleges. An earlier version implied that the CUNY Start program was new and that the number of students in it is still increasing. \u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This story about \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/proof-points-inside-the-perplexing-study-thats-inspired-college-to-drop-remedial-math/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">remedial math in college\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> was written by Jill Barshay and produced by \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/special-reports/higher-education/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Hechinger Report\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, a nonprofit, independent news organization focused on inequality and innovation in education. Sign up for \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/proofpoints/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Proof Points\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> and other \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/newsletters/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hechinger newsletters\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\n","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":1964,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":27},"modified":1684275524,"excerpt":"A study found that skipping remedial math classes and going straight into a college course can actually help students graduate more often and make more money after graduation.","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"A study found that skipping remedial math classes and going straight into a college course can actually help students graduate more often and make more money after graduation.","socialDescription":"A study found that skipping remedial math classes and going straight into a college course can actually help students graduate more often and make more money after graduation.","title":"Inside the perplexing study that’s inspired colleges to drop remedial math | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"Inside the perplexing study that’s inspired colleges to drop remedial math","datePublished":"2023-05-15T03:00:42-07:00","dateModified":"2023-05-16T15:18:44-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"inside-the-perplexing-study-thats-inspired-college-to-drop-remedial-math","status":"publish","nprByline":"Jill Barshay, \u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/\" target=\"_blank\">The Hechinger Report\u003c/a>","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","showOnAuthorArchivePages":"No","articleAge":"0","path":"/mindshift/61606/inside-the-perplexing-study-thats-inspired-college-to-drop-remedial-math","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>When Alexandra Logue served as the chief academic officer of the City University of New York (CUNY) from 2008 to 2014, she discovered that her 25-college system was spending over $20 million a year on remedial classes. Nationwide, the cost of remedial education exceeded\u003ca href=\"https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272775716304605\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> $1 billion \u003c/a>annually; many colleges operated separate departments of “developmental education,” higher-education’s euphemistic jargon for non-credit catch-up classes. “Nobody could tell me if we were doing it the right way,” Logue said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She suspected they weren’t. More than \u003ca href=\"https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2016/2016405.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">two-thirds of all community college students and 40 percent of undergraduates\u003c/a> in four-year colleges had to start with at least one remedial class, according to a statistical report from the U.S. Department of Education. The majority of these students dropped out without degrees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An experimental psychologist by training, Logue designed an experiment. She compared remedial math classes to the alternative of letting ill-prepared students proceed straight to a college course accompanied by extra help. The early results of her randomized control trial were so extraordinary that her study influenced not only CUNY in 2016 but also\u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/blog/ensuring-all-students-benefit-from-landmark-community-college-reform/#:~:text=What%20does%20the%20new%20law,actually%20enroll%20in%20those%20courses.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> California lawmakers in 2017\u003c/a> to start phasing out remedial education in their state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the seven years of Logue’s study, which took place at three of CUNY’s seven two-year community colleges, the results kept getting better. Students who started with college math were successfully passing the course at a fraction of the cost of remediation, getting their math requirements out of the way, earning their degrees faster and earning thousands more in the labor market. Many public colleges, from Nevada and Colorado to Connecticut and Tennessee, have followed suit, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ecs.org/50-state-comparison-developmental-education-policies/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">phasing out remedial ed\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other \u003ca href=\"https://completecollege.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/CCA_NoRoomForDoubt_CorequisiteSupport.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">data analyses\u003c/a> have also shown benefits to bypassing remedial education, but this was one of the only real-life experiments, like a clinical trial, and so it carried a lot of weight. Most importantly, it studied math, often an insurmountable requirement for many students to complete their college degrees. This study has arguably been one of the most influential attempts to use experimental evidence to change how higher education operates and is now affecting the lives of millions of college students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a great feeling of satisfaction,” said Logue, now a research professor at CUNY’s Graduate Center, “because it isn’t just CUNY. It’s across the country, using this really great evidence to help make things better.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The third and final chapter of this long-term study was \u003ca href=\"https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3102/0013189X221138848\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">published in the January/February 2023 issue of the journal Educational Researcher\u003c/a>, and as I pored over this body of research, I became confused about what it proved. The study could be seen as evidence against remedial education, but it could equally be seen as evidence for letting college students meet their math requirements without taking algebra.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The confusion stems from the study design. Instead of testing remedial versus college algebra, which would be a direct test of remedial education, the study compared remedial algebra to college statistics, a sort of apples to oranges comparison. In the experiment, CUNY randomly assigned almost 300 students who failed the algebra portion of a math placement test to an introductory statistics course. In tandem with this college class, students attended an extra two-hour workshop each week where a college classmate who had already passed the class tutored them. Researchers then compared what happened to these stats students with a similar group of almost 300 students who were sent to remedial algebra, the traditional first step for students who fail the algebra subtest. Logue had the same teachers teach sections of both courses – remedial algebra and college stats – so that no one could argue instructional quality was different. Also, only students who struggled with algebra, but not arithmetic, were part of this experiment; students with more severe math difficulties, as measured by the freshman placement test, weren’t asked to attempt the college course and were excluded from the control group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By all measures, the students who went straight to college stats did better. More than half of the students who bypassed remedial algebra passed the stats class and earned college credit. Ultimately, these students finished their degrees a lot faster than those who started off in remedial algebra. They were 50 percent more likely to complete a two-year associate’s degree within three years and, according to the latest chapter of this seven-year study, they were twice as likely to transfer to a four-year institution and complete a bachelor’s degree within five years. Seven years after bypassing remedial ed, students were earning $4,600 more a year in the workplace, on average, than those who started in remedial math.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What we can say is, for students who have been assigned to remediation, put them into statistics with extra help, and you will get a good result,” said Logue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some researchers argue that the shift to statistics might have made the difference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That switch from algebra to stats is a big one for a lot of students,” said Lindsay Daugherty, a senior policy researcher at the RAND Corporation who has studied remedial education and efforts to reform it. She said all the other studies that have looked at replacing remedial classes with college courses plus extra support haven’t produced better graduation rates. “This CUNY study is the only one,” said Daugherty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The only other randomized control trial of remedial education is Daugherty’s Texas experiment to \u003ca href=\"https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19345747.2021.1932000\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">replace remedial English courses\u003c/a> with college courses plus extra support. Going straight to college courses helped more students earn college credits in English but that didn’t help them get through college. Dropout rates were the same for students in both the remedial and the “corequisite” courses, as the college plus extra help version is often called.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We know that the way that we did it before with these standalone [remedial] courses was not helping students, and most states and colleges have made a change and are moving towards corequisites,” said Daugherty. “But the evidence does not suggest that these corequisite courses are the magic potion that is going to change completion and persistence. It’s going to take a lot more and a lot of other support.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What we don’t know from this study is how to help students who are behind in math learn college algebra, a course that is similar to intermediate high school algebra, which remains a requirement for many business, health and engineering majors. All the students in this landmark CUNY study had intended to major in non-STEM fields that didn’t require algebra, such as criminal justice and the humanities, and for which college statistics would fulfill their math requirements.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Logue originally sought to conduct a simpler, cleaner study of only algebra, comparing the remedial prerequisite to the college course plus tutoring support. But she ran into problems with the algebra faculty. (There were too many different versions of college algebra for different majors and across different colleges at CUNY, each covering different topics, she said, and it was impossible to test one version of a basic college algebra course.) Meanwhile, the statistics department was open to the experiment and their introductory courses were very similar from professor to professor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s unclear from this study how essential the weekly tutoring sessions were to helping students pass the statistics course. The experiment didn’t test whether students could pass the normal college stats class without peer tutoring.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The good news is that the switch from remedial algebra to college stats didn’t seem to harm anyone. Indeed, the students in the statistics group were just as likely to complete advanced math courses, along the algebra-to-calculus track, as students who started with remedial algebra, according to co-author Daniel Douglas, director of social science research at Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut, who led the data analysis. In the final number crunching, the stats students were just as likely to complete math-intensive degrees that required college algebra. Starting with stats didn’t thwart students from changing their minds about their majors and returning to an algebra-to-calculus track, Douglas said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bad news is that a lot of community college students still fell through the cracks. Although there was a 50 percent boost to the number of students who completed an associate’s degree within three years, only a quarter of the statistics students hit this milestone. Almost three-quarters didn’t. And though bypassing math remediation and heading straight to college stats led to a 100 percent increase in the number of bachelor’s degrees, only 14 percent of the statistics students earned a four-year degree.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The main benefit of allowing students to bypass remedial classes is speed, according to Douglas. Over the course of seven years, the students who started in remedial algebra eventually caught up and hit many of the same milestones as the students who started with statistics. “At the end of our data collection in the fall of 2020, their degree completion – the elementary algebra group and the stats group – they’re not that different,” said Douglas. As those students enter the workforce and gain experience, it’s quite possible that their wages will catch up too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A CUNY spokesperson told me that their college system stopped placing new students into remedial classes in the fall of 2022. For students who are behind in math, there are now “corequisite” math classes, where the extra support is more costly and differs from the tutoring that was tested in this study I am writing about here. Now the college-level course is two hours longer each week, blurring the lines between regular instruction and extra help support, and entirely taught by instructors, not peer tutors. Many instructors who used to teach remedial courses now teach these corequisite courses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For students who are significantly behind — struggling not only in algebra, but also in basic arithmetic — CUNY operates a separate pre-college program, called CUNY Start, where students take only remedial classes. These students haven’t yet matriculated at the college and don’t pay tuition, and so CUNY doesn’t count them as students. And the numbers of students in this \u003ca href=\"https://www1.cuny.edu/sites/cunystart/resources/how-are-we-doing/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">pre-college remedial program had been swelling before the pandemic.\u003c/a>*\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www1.cuny.edu/sites/cunystart/wp-content/uploads/sites/51/2021/03/CUNYStartWorkingpaper_rev.pdf\">Students did better in these newer pre-college remedial classes\u003c/a> than those who took traditional remedial classes, according to a separate 2021 study that Logue was also involved in. But these students aren’t necessarily doing better in college and earning more credits, unless they get a lot more advising and counseling support during their college years. Helping more young adults get through college isn’t going to be easy or cheap.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>*Clarification: This paragraph has been modified to reflect that the CUNY Start program dates to 2009 and the number of students in it grew during the 2010s. Enrollment in CUNY Start has decreased in recent years, mirroring the general drop in enrollment at community colleges. An earlier version implied that the CUNY Start program was new and that the number of students in it is still increasing. \u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This story about \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/proof-points-inside-the-perplexing-study-thats-inspired-college-to-drop-remedial-math/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">remedial math in college\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> was written by Jill Barshay and produced by \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://hechingerreport.org/special-reports/higher-education/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Hechinger Report\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, a nonprofit, independent news organization focused on inequality and innovation in education. 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(2023). \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://hep.gse.harvard.edu/hep-home/books/growing-and-sustaining-student-centered-science-cl\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Growing and Sustaining Student-Centered Science Classrooms\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> (p. 1-5). \u003ca href=\"https://www.hepg.org/hep-home/home\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Harvard Education Press\u003c/a>. \u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Teaching has always been a crucial and underappreciated profession across the world. Almost everyone spends some time in a school, and in those spaces, teachers play an important role in designing and facilitating opportunities for participation and learning. Many people fondly remember a favorite teacher and classroom or, conversely, might hope to forget a school that made them feel rejected. While society might collectively forget, those of us who spend time in schools know that teachers and administrators have a great responsibility as we shape the lives of children. By representing and upholding equitable communities and participatory structures that ensure powerful learning opportunities for children, especially those from marginalized communities, teachers and administrators can help change the world…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Let’s peek]\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> into the classrooms of two teachers, who I will refer to as Teacher A and Teacher B. Both teachers graduated from the same teacher preparation program, and both taught life science in very diverse schools in the same district. However, Teacher A and Teacher B differed in how they chose to open up, or restrict, avenues for student talk and participation around knowledge in their science classrooms. Let’s look at an example from each class, both of which occurred at the beginning of the school year. As teachers and administrators, we know that the beginning of the school year is such an important time for building a foundation for a science community. For each example, imagine you are sitting in the room, as I was when I watched these lessons unfold, and immerse yourself in the sights and sounds of middle and high school science classes.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In Teacher A’s classroom, students are learning about why identical twins look alike, and why differences might exist even with their similar DNA. Following the first lessons in which students share some initial ideas about why identical twins might look similar and begin to hear terms such as “dominant,” “recessive,” “trait,”, “allele,” Teacher A decides that students should complete Punnett squares to visualize how physical traits and alleles are related. If you need a quick refresher about Punnett squares, recall that a Punnett square provides a space for visualizing and writing potential allele combinations for one offspring given the parents’ alleles. A typical example usually includes a two-by-two table, with two alleles from one parent on the side of the table, and two alleles from another parent above the table.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In this example, Teacher A demonstrated how to complete and interpret a Punnett square and asked students, in groups of two or three, to attempt three example squares as practice. After showing students how to correctly complete the squares, Teacher A wrote a new square on the whiteboard for students to attempt individually. As the murmurs of talk receded into individual pondering of the problem, a quiet student — one I had never heard speak in class before this moment — raised his hand. Tentatively, he asked, “Excuse me, Ms. [A]? I have a question. When we do Punnett squares, we also do examples with four kids. What if there are five kids? Where does the fifth kid go?”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Let’s pause here, in this moment, to think about the layers of what the quiet student said. For some people, the focus might fall on science knowledge and the student’s “incorrect” idea about Punnett squares; after all, the cells in a Punnett square provide a space for people to record possible allele combinations for an individual, and do not represent multiple children. Others might be interested in the student deciding to share a question in the class. What prompted this student to speak at this time, when they had never previously spoken in class? Another layer is that the student might be speaking on behalf of other students in the class. After all, if one student thinks that Punnett Squares illustrate multiple children, how many other students have the same question?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While Teacher A could have been considering any of those possibilities, their thinking remained invisible as they said back to the student: “That’s not how this works. We need to keep moving to finish the practice problems.” While this talk move (a talk move is a statement made by a teacher or student to open up or restrict future classroom talk) may seem routine to some teacher and administrators, from the perspective of this student, Teacher A’s words caused silence. Whenever I visited the classroom for the remainder of the school year, this student never spoke in class again — not to the teacher, other students, or administrators who entered the space.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Let’s move from Teacher A’s classroom to Teacher B’s classroom, just a few miles away. In Teacher B’s classroom, students were learning about evolution by asking “How did we get chihuahuas from wolves?” which a student asked Teacher B in the hallway after school early in the academic year. Before the class began, Teacher B told me that they wanted to make students feel like their ideas had value, and that, like scientists, ideas about the world could be put into the public plane of talk and analyzed by a larger community. For this lesson, Teacher B created a poster using a large piece of construction paper and wrote a title: “Our hypotheses: From Wolf to Woof.” After students had five minutes to discuss ideas in pairs, Teacher B announced that the whole class would now think together, given their discussions. To catalyze the conversation, Teacher B asked students to share ideas about why chihuahuas exist, especially if they look so different from wolves. Importantly, Teacher B told the class to share ideas, if possible, that they considered during conversations with peers. After several students offered hypotheses (“Maybe the DNA changed because of a mutation,” “Maybe a wolf had pups that were all really different in size”), a series of student comments occurred in quick succession:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 1:\u003c/strong> “Maybe mating with a rabbit would make a dog small.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 2:\u003c/strong> “Yeah, a rabbit would make a small baby, not a Great Dane.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 3:\u003c/strong> “What about the ankle biter? Maybe a wolf mated with a rabbit to make an ankle biter.” [The class started calling chihuahuas “ankle biters” as a joke.]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Again, let’s pause here to consider the layers of complexity that arise \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">simultaneously when these students shared ideas. Some teachers and administrators might worry about the students’ wrong ideas — we know that wolves and rabbits cannot create babies together. Other people might wonder about the students’ purpose in sharing ideas: Were they seeking attention, or purposefully trying to disrupt the class? Still others might be focused on Teacher B’s actions, questioning whether such a conversation is a productive use of class time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Teacher B, however, recognized this moment as a point of departure from instruction that might limit students’ opportunities to engage in knowledge practices in a classroom. Here’s how the next minute of class unfolded:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>TEACHER B:\u003c/strong> “Wait, why did you just joke that a rabbit mating with a wolf would make an ankle-biter dog as opposed to a Great Dane?”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 3:\u003c/strong> Maybe because . . . rabbits are small. And ankle biters are small.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 2:\u003c/strong> Oh, you feel my word. [Student 2 originally injected “ankle biter” into the science community.]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>TEACHER B:\u003c/strong> It’s become a class word now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 3:\u003c/strong> Right. Rabbits have big ears. And ankle biters have ears that bend and look like rabbit ears.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>TEACHER B:\u003c/strong> So what are you really suggesting about where chihuahuas get their traits?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>MULTIPLE STUDENTS IN CLASS CALL OUT:\u003c/strong> From their parents.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Once students chimed into the discussion, the classroom talk exploded. Almost every student in the class raised their hand to contribute to the conversation, and by the end of class, three important ideas emerged: (1) parents must be close together to make babies (but all parents or just some species?, several students wondered); (2) Babies get traits from parents; (3) not all babies are identical to parents (some students wondered about animals that can clone themselves). Teacher B recorded these three ideas on the poster and told the students that their homework was to observe animals in the neighborhood to see if they all looked alike.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While these examples show a snapshot of the science communities found in the classrooms of Teacher A and Teacher B, there are three important features of the communities to highlight as a foundation for this book and our work as science teachers. First, how Teacher A and Teacher B opened up or constrained opportunities for student talk set the tone for the remainder of the school year. Students pay attention to teachers’ words and actions, and they notice how teachers respond to their ideas. Second, Teacher A and Teacher B sent different messages to students about what counts as a good statement to say out loud. By denying or valuing students’ statements, teachers demonstrate to students what words and ideas matter, and what words and ideas should remain silent. Third, Teacher A and Teacher B treated the purpose of participation differently. Teacher A wanted students to say correct answers and complete predetermined practice problems, while Teacher B helped students to shape the direction of knowledge production in the classroom by asking for multiple hypotheses, generating and using language to describe a phenomenon, and by encouraging and supporting students to share ideas. Each of these features sends visible and invisible messages to students about what knowledge matters, how knowledge should be invoked and used in a classroom, and who is allowed to share ideas and claims to knowledge in a classroom.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-61321 alignleft\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/23/2023/03/Stroupe-David.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"138\" height=\"165\">\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://education.msu.edu/people/Stroupe-David/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">David Stroupe\u003c/a> is an associate professor of teacher education and science education, the associate director of STEM Teacher Education at the CREATE for STEM Institute, and the Director of Science and Society at State at Michigan State University. He has three overlapping areas of research interests anchored around ambitious and equitable teaching. First, he frames classrooms as science practice communities. Using lenses from Science, Technology, and Society (STS) and the History and Philosophy of Science (HPS), he examines how teachers and students disrupt epistemic injustice through the negotiation of power, knowledge, and epistemic agency. Second, he examines how beginning teachers learn from practice in and across their varied contexts. Third, he studies how teacher preparation programs can provide support and opportunities for beginning teachers to learn from practice. David has a background in biology and taught secondary life science for four years.\u003c/em>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\n","stats":{"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"hasAudio":false,"hasPolis":false,"wordCount":1829,"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"paragraphCount":25},"modified":1682642172,"excerpt":"The ways a teacher chooses to open up or constrain opportunities for student talk sets the tone for classroom engagement. David Stroupe explores two examples from science classes in an excerpt from his book, \"Growing and Sustaining Student-Centered Science Classrooms.\"","headData":{"twImgId":"","twTitle":"","ogTitle":"","ogImgId":"","twDescription":"","description":"The ways a teacher chooses to open up or constrain opportunities for student talk sets the tone for classroom engagement.","title":"A tale of two science classrooms: How different approaches to participation shape learning | KQED","ogDescription":"","schema":{"@context":"http://schema.org","@type":"Article","headline":"A tale of two science classrooms: How different approaches to participation shape learning","datePublished":"2023-04-04T03:00:33-07:00","dateModified":"2023-04-27T17:36:12-07:00","image":"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/KQED-OG-Image@1x.png"}},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"a-tale-of-two-science-classrooms","status":"publish","excludeFromSiteSearch":"Include","articleAge":"0","path":"/mindshift/61319/a-tale-of-two-science-classrooms","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Adapted with permission from Stroupe, D. (2023). \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://hep.gse.harvard.edu/hep-home/books/growing-and-sustaining-student-centered-science-cl\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Growing and Sustaining Student-Centered Science Classrooms\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> (p. 1-5). \u003ca href=\"https://www.hepg.org/hep-home/home\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Harvard Education Press\u003c/a>. \u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Teaching has always been a crucial and underappreciated profession across the world. Almost everyone spends some time in a school, and in those spaces, teachers play an important role in designing and facilitating opportunities for participation and learning. Many people fondly remember a favorite teacher and classroom or, conversely, might hope to forget a school that made them feel rejected. While society might collectively forget, those of us who spend time in schools know that teachers and administrators have a great responsibility as we shape the lives of children. By representing and upholding equitable communities and participatory structures that ensure powerful learning opportunities for children, especially those from marginalized communities, teachers and administrators can help change the world…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Let’s peek]\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> into the classrooms of two teachers, who I will refer to as Teacher A and Teacher B. Both teachers graduated from the same teacher preparation program, and both taught life science in very diverse schools in the same district. However, Teacher A and Teacher B differed in how they chose to open up, or restrict, avenues for student talk and participation around knowledge in their science classrooms. Let’s look at an example from each class, both of which occurred at the beginning of the school year. As teachers and administrators, we know that the beginning of the school year is such an important time for building a foundation for a science community. For each example, imagine you are sitting in the room, as I was when I watched these lessons unfold, and immerse yourself in the sights and sounds of middle and high school science classes.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In Teacher A’s classroom, students are learning about why identical twins look alike, and why differences might exist even with their similar DNA. Following the first lessons in which students share some initial ideas about why identical twins might look similar and begin to hear terms such as “dominant,” “recessive,” “trait,”, “allele,” Teacher A decides that students should complete Punnett squares to visualize how physical traits and alleles are related. If you need a quick refresher about Punnett squares, recall that a Punnett square provides a space for visualizing and writing potential allele combinations for one offspring given the parents’ alleles. A typical example usually includes a two-by-two table, with two alleles from one parent on the side of the table, and two alleles from another parent above the table.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In this example, Teacher A demonstrated how to complete and interpret a Punnett square and asked students, in groups of two or three, to attempt three example squares as practice. After showing students how to correctly complete the squares, Teacher A wrote a new square on the whiteboard for students to attempt individually. As the murmurs of talk receded into individual pondering of the problem, a quiet student — one I had never heard speak in class before this moment — raised his hand. Tentatively, he asked, “Excuse me, Ms. [A]? I have a question. When we do Punnett squares, we also do examples with four kids. What if there are five kids? Where does the fifth kid go?”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Let’s pause here, in this moment, to think about the layers of what the quiet student said. For some people, the focus might fall on science knowledge and the student’s “incorrect” idea about Punnett squares; after all, the cells in a Punnett square provide a space for people to record possible allele combinations for an individual, and do not represent multiple children. Others might be interested in the student deciding to share a question in the class. What prompted this student to speak at this time, when they had never previously spoken in class? Another layer is that the student might be speaking on behalf of other students in the class. After all, if one student thinks that Punnett Squares illustrate multiple children, how many other students have the same question?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While Teacher A could have been considering any of those possibilities, their thinking remained invisible as they said back to the student: “That’s not how this works. We need to keep moving to finish the practice problems.” While this talk move (a talk move is a statement made by a teacher or student to open up or restrict future classroom talk) may seem routine to some teacher and administrators, from the perspective of this student, Teacher A’s words caused silence. Whenever I visited the classroom for the remainder of the school year, this student never spoke in class again — not to the teacher, other students, or administrators who entered the space.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Let’s move from Teacher A’s classroom to Teacher B’s classroom, just a few miles away. In Teacher B’s classroom, students were learning about evolution by asking “How did we get chihuahuas from wolves?” which a student asked Teacher B in the hallway after school early in the academic year. Before the class began, Teacher B told me that they wanted to make students feel like their ideas had value, and that, like scientists, ideas about the world could be put into the public plane of talk and analyzed by a larger community. For this lesson, Teacher B created a poster using a large piece of construction paper and wrote a title: “Our hypotheses: From Wolf to Woof.” After students had five minutes to discuss ideas in pairs, Teacher B announced that the whole class would now think together, given their discussions. To catalyze the conversation, Teacher B asked students to share ideas about why chihuahuas exist, especially if they look so different from wolves. Importantly, Teacher B told the class to share ideas, if possible, that they considered during conversations with peers. After several students offered hypotheses (“Maybe the DNA changed because of a mutation,” “Maybe a wolf had pups that were all really different in size”), a series of student comments occurred in quick succession:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 1:\u003c/strong> “Maybe mating with a rabbit would make a dog small.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 2:\u003c/strong> “Yeah, a rabbit would make a small baby, not a Great Dane.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 3:\u003c/strong> “What about the ankle biter? 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Still others might be focused on Teacher B’s actions, questioning whether such a conversation is a productive use of class time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Teacher B, however, recognized this moment as a point of departure from instruction that might limit students’ opportunities to engage in knowledge practices in a classroom. Here’s how the next minute of class unfolded:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>TEACHER B:\u003c/strong> “Wait, why did you just joke that a rabbit mating with a wolf would make an ankle-biter dog as opposed to a Great Dane?”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 3:\u003c/strong> Maybe because . . . rabbits are small. And ankle biters are small.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 2:\u003c/strong> Oh, you feel my word. [Student 2 originally injected “ankle biter” into the science community.]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>TEACHER B:\u003c/strong> It’s become a class word now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>STUDENT 3:\u003c/strong> Right. Rabbits have big ears. And ankle biters have ears that bend and look like rabbit ears.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>TEACHER B:\u003c/strong> So what are you really suggesting about where chihuahuas get their traits?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>MULTIPLE STUDENTS IN CLASS CALL OUT:\u003c/strong> From their parents.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Once students chimed into the discussion, the classroom talk exploded. Almost every student in the class raised their hand to contribute to the conversation, and by the end of class, three important ideas emerged: (1) parents must be close together to make babies (but all parents or just some species?, several students wondered); (2) Babies get traits from parents; (3) not all babies are identical to parents (some students wondered about animals that can clone themselves). Teacher B recorded these three ideas on the poster and told the students that their homework was to observe animals in the neighborhood to see if they all looked alike.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While these examples show a snapshot of the science communities found in the classrooms of Teacher A and Teacher B, there are three important features of the communities to highlight as a foundation for this book and our work as science teachers. 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