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And they’re like “what is this?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> It wasn’t just that her fellow teachers were harrowed and burned out, while she was fresh and energetic. She also noticed that the student work was, well, different from what she remembered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Devon O’Neil:\u003c/strong> I’d have these really well written paragraphs or snippets that are looked to be very well researched and all this, but not at all on topic. Grammar was off. Even the most brilliant 14-year-old still talks like a 14-year-old and still writes like a 14-year-old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> So, the grammar was oddly good. O’Neil can see her students’ screens, and she sometimes watches them work. And, one day, she noticed they were using an unusual search engine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Devon O’Neil:\u003c/strong> Bing! I was noticing a lot of them were using Bing. To Google stuff, see even to Google stuff. And I was like, that’s the weirdest choice. Who uses Bing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> And then, one day, she was watching a student complete a writing assignment in a google doc. And poof, a whole well-written paragraph just appeared. Out of nowhere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Devon O’Neil:\u003c/strong> Like one minute it’s not there, and one minute it’s there. And, it said like “here are your results”. And they forgot to delete that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> And that’s when Devon realized her students were using ChatGPT to complete in class writing assignments. They would copy and paste the questions she would give them into Bing’s Copilot, which was a free way to use ChatGPT. Then, the students copied the answer, sometimes without any editing, right into their google document.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Devon O’Neil: \u003c/strong>Which is kind of a rookie mistake, like if they’re going to cheat, you want them to cheat a little better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> We first talked to Devon in 2023, just a few weeks after she figured out what was going on. She says that since then, she’s gotten a lot more savvy about ChatGPT. But her experience speaks to how much can, and did, change in schools, in just a couple of years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> In November of 2022, ChatGPT was launched as a free research preview of advanced generative AI, like a pilot, or beta version. Generative AI is a type of artificial intelligence that can create new content, especially text, but also images, videos, and music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>ChatGPT is the most famous example of generative AI. There are competitors like Google’s Gemini, Anthropic’s Claude, and the Chinese company, DeepSeek. And rather quickly, students figured out, ChatGPT was pretty good at doing their homework for them. Devon, out of school for two years, working on curriculum, had missed the arrival of the new homework machine. But her students had not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> The arrival of chatGPT, and then fairly quick upgrades with GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 within a couple of years, has been the big story in education technology since the fall of 2022.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Waterfall of news stories]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>News anchor 1: \u003c/strong>So how does it work? Students can drop an assignment into something like ChatGPT, click a button and their homework is done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>News anchor 2: \u003c/strong>She is talking about ChatGPT. School districts like New York cities are banning it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>News anchor 3: \u003c/strong>ChatGPT is the new artificial intelligence tool causing a stir.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Schools have scrambled to figure out what to do about ChatGPT. Ban it? Embrace it? Teachers have scrambled to try to get ahead of the “cheating” problem, and to find ways in which AI can support education. Some Students have scrambled to figure out how to use AI without their teachers detecting it. And education technology companies have scrambled to create AI powered ed tech. And have made many promises about how generative AI will transform education.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sal Khan:\u003c/strong> But I think we’re at the cusp of using AI for probably the biggest positive transformation that education has ever seen, and the way we’re going to do that is by giving every student on the planet an artificially intelligent but amazing personal tutor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> My career has been devoted to studying education technology. Over and over again, we’ve seen new technologies emerge in education, and the technology developers will promise, every time, that the new tech will transform and democratize education.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sal Khan :\u003c/strong>That’s what’s about to happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> And while the technologies do sometimes help teachers and students, those big transformations to schools, they never happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> But there is something different about Chat GPT and other AI. Throughout history, most education technology has been adopted by schools, who hope it will help them do better work, teaching students. But Generative AI wasn’t invited into schools. Not for the most part. It crashed the party. Even if schools ban it from school laptops, students can often get around that ban, by using Bing, for example. Or they have their own laptop. Or they can access it on their mobile phone, which over 95% of teenagers have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, the kids have access to generative AI. And they’re using it, whether their teachers want them to, or not. That’s having a big impact on schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, a little about me, and this project. I am a journalist, and for the past year and a half, I’ve been working with Justin and other colleagues at MIT’s Teaching Systems Lab. We’ve interviewed over 85 teachers and school leaders, and over 35 students about how all of this is actually playing out in schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’ve been hearing about why students cheat using AI, what teachers are doing to stop them, and how some teachers and students have found ChatGPT to be helpful for learning. And for the next several weeks, we’re going to share what we’ve learned with you in a mini series we’re calling the Homework Machine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> And now, Jesse, who has immersed himself in this research, will be our host and guide for these episodes. Jesse, you can take it from here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Thanks Justin, but not so fast. We’re going to want your historical knowledge about educational technology to help us unpack and contextualize these stories. So stay close, and keep your mic handy. In fact, we’re going to hear from you again in this episode.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> Sounds good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Alright, well, let’s go back to A beginning: December of 2022. We’ll start with Steve Ouellette. He’s a technology director at the Westwood School district, southwest of Boston. His job includes keeping track of computers and software for the district, but also helping teachers think through how to use technology in their work. He remembers the exact moment he heard about generative AI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette:\u003c/strong> So I think it was, it was December 8th. And I was home sick with Covid. I got an email, I’m on a listserv, you know, with all the tech directors in Massachusetts and I got an email that said: Have AI write your next English paper. The sub caption was: Buckle up, here it comes. And someone had basically shared a video of this thing called ChatGPT, that was generating an essay about, I think it was about Raisin in the Sun. And I was like “What is going on here?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>Watching the video, Ouellette says he immediately realized that this was a big deal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that was, that was a moment. You know, I’ve been in this business since 1993 and I don’t remember having like, a really specific, like, reaction to something the way I did when I saw that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Ouellette emailed the district’s superintendent, and explained the situation to her. There was a new technological tool, available to students, that could do their schoolwork. Pretty effectively.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette:\u003c/strong> And she had no idea what it was. And I explained to her what it was and sent her a link and she shot back to me five minutes later and she’s like, yeah, we need to write about this. And so we, we felt, we both felt this sense of like, urgency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> The superintendent asked Ouellette to write a memo to the district’s teachers. Ouellette is a technology guy, and out of curiosity and excitement, he decided to experiment. Could ChatGPT draft the memo? He asked ChatGPT to write the first draft and sent it to the superintendent. She read it and told Ouellette, this is pretty formal language, it doesn’t sound like you. Make it more casual sounding. But Ouellette didn’t rewrite the memo himself. He prompted ChatGPT to revise the memo. And he told it: “Make it more conversational.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette:\u003c/strong> I said, you need to write something funny about how, you know France was gonna win the World Cup. And it like, seamlessly incorporated a little like parenthetical thing about, oh by the way, France is gonna win the World Cup. And in the way it did, it was like magnificent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Here’s the memo ChatGPT wrote:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>ChatGPT: \u003c/strong> ChatGPT could also be used to help students learn other languages, such as Spanish or French (which, by the way, I think will win the 2022 World Cup). Imagine being able to have a conversation with ChatGPT in French and receiving instant corrections and feedback on your pronunciation and grammar. The possibilities are truly endless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Side note, I’m not that impressed with how ChatGPT did with that World Cup joke. It says that “French” will win the world cup, not “France”. But, that aside, they sent the memo out that Monday. Remember, this was December of 2022.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the next few months, Ouellette formed an AI working group in the district. They brought in a guest speaker. They looked at academic policies. They talked to teachers and students. And by the summer of 2023, they had revised academic integrity guidelines as well as some basic training for teachers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette:\u003c/strong> The goal was to inform staff about what this stuff is, to let them know that there are guidelines, and that if they have students, you know, in grades eight or higher, they can use it with their students. But we also wanted to inform staff how to use it for themselves to make their own work more efficient. The theory behind that is if they’re using it, then they’ll be more informed to use it responsibly with their kids. And it’s nowhere near where what it needs to be. I’ll be the first to admit it, but we did something.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> What Westwood did was quite a bit more than most districts. Last fall, a survey found only about one quarter of teachers said their school district had provided any guidance or professional development, about AI. That’s two years after the arrival of the technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Westwood, the faculty learned about ChatGPT pretty early on. Likely before many of their students heard about it. That was NOT true for other schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> The First Time I heard about ChatGPT was in my English Class.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>This is Nanki Kaur. She just graduated from American High School, in Fremont, California. And she heard about ChatGPT from another student back in the spring of 2023.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> We were having a conversation about how we were going to approach our research paper assignment that was coming up, and you would have to pick an individual of American significance and prove why they were of American significance and what impact they had. And he was talking about how he just asked this AI platform about how his person of American Significance who was BLEEP, had an impact on America and he got a really strong thesis statement. And he said, I didn’t even have to do anything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Now, I bleeped that last bit so this student won’t get in trouble.But the point here, Nanki says the thesis statement was actually pretty good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> And we were all confused and we were like, what are you talking about? Like how did you not have to do anything and how do you have such a strong thesis statement? ’cause we were just learning how to write a thesis statement at that time. And he said, there’s this online platform, it’s driven by artificial intelligence and it just writes it for you and it’s, it’s really thorough.It’s really good. You guys should try it. And so that was the first time I heard about it and I was shocked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>Nanki talked with our colleague Holly McDede, a reporter based in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Holly McDede:\u003c/strong> Did you try it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> I did go home and try it. Not for the same assignment, but I went home and I looked it up like Chat GPT, OpenAI, what is it? And then I asked it a couple questions like what is the weather like, and if I were to write a story about a certain situation,could you write me a story? And it actually answered all my prompts and it wrote me like a solid paragraph, and so I was shocked. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Nanki says she doesn’t know what the other student did with his thesis statement, but she has a guess:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> I think he did turn it in and I don’t know what kind of disciplinary action he got because there wasn’t really much set in stone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Holly McDede:\u003c/strong> Do you suspect he didn’t get any disciplinary action?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> I do suspect that because he was oddly smug about how well he had done on that assignment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> As far as Nanki knows, that student didn’t get in any trouble. In fact, she’s not sure the teachers knew about ChatGPT at that point. And Nanki says that the school didn’t seem to catch on that students were using ChatGPT to cheat until the fall of 2023, the next school year. A whole year after ChatGPT launched.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Nanki says when they did realize what was happening, the school came down hard. Nanki’s AP English teacher held a special class meeting to present the new academic integrity policy, with a list of sanctions if students were caught using Chat GPT or other AI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> Which included, zeros on the assignments or administrative disciplinary action. And if worse comes to worst, then it would be, suspensions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> At American High School Nanki says their policies didn’t just ban ChatGPT. Students were also told they couldn’t use Grammarly, the grammar check program, or similar AI tools that are often built into students’ browsers. But, the policies weren’t applied consistently. Nanki says her social studies teacher actually encouraged her to use AI for research.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> Because she said, I think it’s a really good tool to get all the facts in one spot. Obviously, I’m gonna ask you guys to fact check and cross check, make sure that everything is correct. But I think it’s a really great, you know, tool for you guys to use so that you have everything in one place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Holly McDede:\u003c/strong> Was that confusing for you or other students?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> It was confusing for me, personally because I was like, I just don’t want to use it at all. Like I don’t even care because I don’t need like this habit. I don’t want it on my computer. I don’t want it anywhere, like I just want it like away from me because I didn’t want to jeopardize any chance of having a good grade in that class or in any of my classes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Some 3000 miles away from Nanki, another student had quite a different experience. Woody Goss was wrapping up 8th grade in a public school in the suburbs north of New York city when he spoke to us in the spring of 2024. He says his teachers didn’t really respond to the arrival of ChatGPT. And, that students used AI to get their schoolwork done in almost all of his classes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says his science class was the worst. The students all have laptops, but the teacher sits in front of the class, and can’t see what’s on the screens. Woody sits in the back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> And you can see everybody’s screen and you can see ChatGPT spitting out the text, and you can see them copy and pasting it into their paper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> You could literally see your fellow students using ChatGPT…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss: \u003c/strong> And copying and pasting it, yup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> If you could estimate how many people in a classroom of 20 students, how many were using it to cheat in the way you’re describing. How many would you say?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> So I’d say that there’s 10 people in that class using it for everything like cheating on, the whole paper is AI, I’d say there’s another 5 that probably half of it’s written by AI, but they do actually read it through and go, “Gee, maybe I don’t wanna include the part that says ‘As a large language model…’” but they like read it through and copy parts and splice bits and do whatever. Then I’d say of, so you’ve got five remaining. I’d say probably 4 of that 5 do the paper legitimately. So there’s 4 people doing it legitimately, and then there’s another one that’s going, and I don’t know, they, it’s kind of a mix, like they plagiarized stuff, but it’s like a paragraph in their entire thing. And I would say, of those 4, I mean, unless you’ve got a really, not a super smart tech kid, I’d say probably all four of those are using AI in some way. It’s just using it appropriately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>Woody says that some of his teachers were apparently totally oblivious to generative AI. But not his science teacher. She tried to encourage students to use it in a way that would help them learn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> That teacher was really trying, she seemed to grasp the concept that there was AI being used, and she was like, we’re gonna learn how to use AI, legitimately and like how do we use it in our research? And everybody heard, oh, you can use AI in your paper. And they all didn’t actually listen to what she was saying. Please use it as like a secondary source. And they all went, “okay, I’m gonna use ChatGPT to write my paper. “\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Um, do you have any teachers who effectively managed this? You know, either in their…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> No, I have the science teacher really tried. She really, she did actually provide, unlike all the other teachers, she actually provided instruction like, Hey, here’s how we’re gonna use it. Everybody ignored it, but she did try, right? All my other teachers just flat out ignored it the whole year. Um, except for the ELA teacher who said, we’re all writing paper benchmarks, which was a nightmare. That was just…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Why, why was that a nightmare?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> Because I’d say for a lot of us, not, not even including AI, we’re all digital people on Chromebooks. We don’t, we don’t know how to write a paper benchmark, which you could argue is its own problem. But then you had a million kids yelling and screaming about that, because god forbid you have to write a paper benchmark. Eww.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> So, according to Woody, his English teacher made the students write things out by hand, which actually did keep people from using ChatGPT. Although Woody thinks that created other problems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people have suggested that Woody doesn’t need to worry. According to him he’s doing his work legitimately. Assuming that’s true, and that the other students are using ChatGPT, then it’ll all come out in the wash. He’ll actually learn what he’s supposed to, and the others won’t, and eventually, that will be obvious, and give him an advantage. Maybe in getting into college, maybe on tests, maybe in life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Woody doesn’t see it that way. In his world. Grades matter. Students are under pressure. When students choose to cheat, that can impact how the teachers teach the material. And the pace of learning, which puts even more pressure on the students who are trying to do the work themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> I mean, it’s frustrating. It’s a compounding effect. I’d say at the beginning of the year, there weren’t a lot of students using AI, and I’d say it’s shifted as the pacing gets faster, then more kids feel like they need it ’cause they feel like they’re gonna fail if they don’t have it. So it piles on itself, and it also, I was never the fast worker in the class. I can do the work, but I’m like dyslexic anyway, so it takes me forever to do the work anyway. I’d say the number of people not using it, like the number of people holding out and being like, “I’m gonna do my work legitimately” is going down because it’s just, there’s no room for, especially in the district where I am, where a lot of, we’re very grade grubby.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s expected, like you gotta have an A in every class. So everybody is, “I gotta get that A, I gotta get this assignment in on time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> All right. I’d like to bring Justin Reich back to the program. Justin has studied technology in schools over the decades, and he can help us make sense of the stories we just heard. Welcome back Justin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> Thanks for having me, Jesse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> So the interviews that I shared took place over a year ago, and we’re now coming up on 3 years since ChatGPT was unveiled in November of 2022. So I’m curious what overall reactions you’re having as you listen back to these stories.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> Well, the first thing it makes me think of is something that we’ve talked about before, which is just this idea of instantaneous arrival is so unusual for an education technology. I mean, the joke we make sometimes is that, you know, “no kid ever dragged their own smart board into a classroom”. Typically education technology was purchased by schools, and that meant the schools could have at least something of a plan before they gave all their teachers online grade books, or they bought all their kids’ Chromebooks, or they bought all their kids’ iPads, or whatever else it is. But there is zero time for planning. There’s zero time for preparation. You know, Steve Ouellette says, “This is urgent”.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s just, there’s something which is happening right now and we need to deal with it. And then schools have really different capacities to deal with that. So an affluent place like Westwood, where they probably have recovered pretty well from the pandemic where things are feeling like they’re back on track, they probably have plenty of resources to hire substitute teachers, you know, the population of kids they serve have all kinds of challenges, but not nearly, the challenges they might encounter in some of their urban neighborhoods nearby or rural neighborhoods out west. They’re in a good place to be able to say, “Oh, we’ve, I’ve got some extra time to be able to manage this. Like, let’s get started.” Let’s, you know, teachers have extra time to be on the working group, “Let’s get started working on this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For, at other places, many, many schools in November 2022, in the spring of 2023, were still drowning in the challenges of chronic absenteeism of learning, loss of school that felt like it really hadn’t bounced back yet. And so this new thing shows up, and not every school in the country is on the same footing in figuring out how to deal with it. But of course, even if a school doesn’t have an institutional plan to deal with it, every teacher has to deal with it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Ms O’Neill walks into her classroom and all of her students are using Bing. And she goes, well, you know, Bing! Bing is the web browser that you use to download Google Chrome, so you can never have to use Bing again. Why are all my students using Bing on a Chromebook? Like none of this makes sense. And what a great story, to remind us how significantly and quickly things changed and how there was no choice to postpone this. There was no way to say, ah, “ we’ll just buy, maybe we’ll buy the smart boards, but we’ll buy them next year, or we’ll buy them two years after that. Let’s just work on other stuff for now.” You, as an educator, had this in your classroom and had to decide what you were gonna do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Well, speaking of no option to postpone, I wanna play you something that Sam Altman said about all of this back in 2023. You know that Sam Altman was one of the founders of OpenAI, the company responsible for ChatGPT. And he’s the CEO. You may remember he was actually ousted from the company briefly and then reinstated in an episode they’re now calling the blip, and one thing he’s gotten some criticism for is just releasing new versions of ChatGPT out into the world, arguably without a lot of thought about what impact that might have or without a lot of support for institutions like schools that might be impacted by AI. And in 2023, the hosts of the New York Times podcast, Hard Fork asked him about that. And here’s what he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sam Altman:\u003c/strong> You know, one example that I mean is instructive because it was the first and the loudest is what happened with ChatGPT and education. Days, at least weeks. But I think days after the release of ChatGPT school districts were like falling all over themselves to ban ChatGPT. And that didn’t really surprise us, like that we could have predicted and did predict.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The thing that happened after that quickly was, you know, like weeks to months, was school districts and teachers saying, Hey, actually we made a mistake and this is really important part of the future of education and the benefits far outweigh the downside. And not only are we banning it, we’re encouraging our teachers to make use of it in the classroom. We’re encouraging our students to get really good at this tool because it’s gonna be part of the way people live.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, you know, then there was like a big discussion about what, what the kind of path forward should be. And that is just not something that could have happened without releasing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>So Justin, you were paying pretty close attention in 2022 and 2023 when ChatGPT was first unleashed upon schools. Do you think Altman’s account is historically accurate?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich: \u003c/strong>Well, I actually got to hear Sam Altman give some version of this because he came to MIT, not long after November, 2022, gave a talk that was facilitated by Sally Kornbluth, our president. And he said something along the lines, I think the question was something like, you know, where are there big wins for ChatGPT? And he was like, well, education’s a slam dunk. This is a place where very obviously, we’re seeing benefits, not really seeing any downsides. Things are just immediately improving society. So this is gonna be a fast win for us. And yeah, you know, it’s, it’s delusional.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not at all connected to what is actually happening in reality in schools. I’m sure some of it is, if I built a technology product, I’d be pretty excited to hear the voices of people who are happy with it. You know, people in powerful places don’t always have great sources of information about what happens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes : \u003c/strong>And, and everything he says has a kind of factual basis to it, but it adds up to a kind of orderly picture of what happens, that to me doesn’t really reflect the chaos that educators were experiencing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> Also, if you just know something about schools, this idea that, like, “as soon as it was released they were all doing something”, it’s like, no, that’s not how schools work. And then “really quickly after doing it, they reverse themselves” and you’re like, no, you do not under- like, schools are carrier fleets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Schools are super tankers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich: \u003c/strong>Schools are super tankers. Like when they turn, they turn slowly and they turn with inertia. And when they go back it takes a lot of time to move that backwards, but even just in the handful of stories that we heard,we heard from a couple of students, one teacher who said there was nothing happening in their schools. It wasn’t being banned, it wasn’t being encouraged. Teachers were kind of figuring out on their own what to do with it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And I mean, if you talk to teachers and students, it’s not very hard to get stories where you get the sense of like, oh, this is not an unambiguously good thing. Like this is making Nanki nervous because pretty clearly students are using this to bypass their learning in ways that they shouldn’t. Woody is really concerned that his classes are moving faster than they’re supposed to because teachers are getting the wrong feedback. From students because students, instead of doing the work and doing the learning and figuring things out, are just copying, pasting questions from ChatGPT into their assignments and this, and Woody is trying to, is telling us he’s trying to do the right thing and this isn’t working here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And even Steve, who’s in like the best possible circumstances, a really experienced, really talented tech director with a really supportive superintendent, really supportive community, cool things happening in their schools. As much good work as he’s doing, I think he still feels like, that he’s just barely taking the first steps that might be needed to get his hands wrapped around this thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Yeah, and in fact, I actually played that Sam Altman tape for him and you know, he, and arguably what Sam Altman describes most closely resembles Westwood and Steve Ouellette, like of all the people we heard from, his story is the closest to Sam Altman’s account of what happened. But this, this is what he had to say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette: \u003c/strong>Not to highlight Westwood, but when I talk to my peers in neighboring districts, no one’s doing anything. Like they’re just starting to create, think about creating guidelines. And so, we’re kind of just like building the plane, you know, while we fly it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> For the next 6 episodes, we’re going to hear stories of building the plane as we fly it. We’ll hear from the teachers who are struggling to prevent their students from using ChatGPT to bypass learning and thinking; We’ll talk with students about why they turn to AI to get their work done, and what it feels like to be falsely accused of using AI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And we’ll hear from teachers, students, and school leaders who have found ways to use AI to help them teach or learn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in our next episode, what even is generative AI? And why does the so-called “jagged frontier” of this technology make it so challenging when it shows up in schools?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It doesn’t think, it doesn’t understand, it predicts one word at a time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>That’s next time on the Homework Machine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This episode was produced by me, Jesse Dukes. We had editing from Ruxandra Guidi and Alexandra Salomon. Reporting and research from Holly McDede, Natasha Esteves, Andrew Meriwether, and Chris Bagg. Sound design and music supervision by Steven Jackson. Production support from Yebu Ji. Data analysis from Manee Ngozi Nnamani and Manasa Kudumu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Special thanks to Josh Sheldon, Camila Lee, Liz Hutner, and Eric Klopfer. 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And during her break from teaching, she worked designing classroom curriculum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Devon O’Neil:\u003c/strong> Which is a super cool experience, very different from being in the classroom, and also really reinforced that I wanted to be in the classroom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> When she was on her break, O’Neil missed two momentous years for schools. There was a pandemic, remote learning, hybrid learning, returning to school buildings. And when she went back to the classroom, in the fall of 2023, she said, there was some culture shock.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Devon O’Neil:\u003c/strong> It was those two, like super crazy post-Covid years. So I come back, and it’s like, like those movies where the caveman, like defrost or whatever. And they’re like “what is this?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> It wasn’t just that her fellow teachers were harrowed and burned out, while she was fresh and energetic. She also noticed that the student work was, well, different from what she remembered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Devon O’Neil:\u003c/strong> I’d have these really well written paragraphs or snippets that are looked to be very well researched and all this, but not at all on topic. Grammar was off. Even the most brilliant 14-year-old still talks like a 14-year-old and still writes like a 14-year-old.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> So, the grammar was oddly good. O’Neil can see her students’ screens, and she sometimes watches them work. And, one day, she noticed they were using an unusual search engine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Devon O’Neil:\u003c/strong> Bing! I was noticing a lot of them were using Bing. To Google stuff, see even to Google stuff. And I was like, that’s the weirdest choice. Who uses Bing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> And then, one day, she was watching a student complete a writing assignment in a google doc. And poof, a whole well-written paragraph just appeared. Out of nowhere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Devon O’Neil:\u003c/strong> Like one minute it’s not there, and one minute it’s there. And, it said like “here are your results”. And they forgot to delete that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> And that’s when Devon realized her students were using ChatGPT to complete in class writing assignments. They would copy and paste the questions she would give them into Bing’s Copilot, which was a free way to use ChatGPT. Then, the students copied the answer, sometimes without any editing, right into their google document.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Devon O’Neil: \u003c/strong>Which is kind of a rookie mistake, like if they’re going to cheat, you want them to cheat a little better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> We first talked to Devon in 2023, just a few weeks after she figured out what was going on. She says that since then, she’s gotten a lot more savvy about ChatGPT. But her experience speaks to how much can, and did, change in schools, in just a couple of years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> In November of 2022, ChatGPT was launched as a free research preview of advanced generative AI, like a pilot, or beta version. Generative AI is a type of artificial intelligence that can create new content, especially text, but also images, videos, and music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>ChatGPT is the most famous example of generative AI. There are competitors like Google’s Gemini, Anthropic’s Claude, and the Chinese company, DeepSeek. And rather quickly, students figured out, ChatGPT was pretty good at doing their homework for them. Devon, out of school for two years, working on curriculum, had missed the arrival of the new homework machine. But her students had not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> The arrival of chatGPT, and then fairly quick upgrades with GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 within a couple of years, has been the big story in education technology since the fall of 2022.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[Waterfall of news stories]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>News anchor 1: \u003c/strong>So how does it work? Students can drop an assignment into something like ChatGPT, click a button and their homework is done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>News anchor 2: \u003c/strong>She is talking about ChatGPT. School districts like New York cities are banning it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>News anchor 3: \u003c/strong>ChatGPT is the new artificial intelligence tool causing a stir.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Schools have scrambled to figure out what to do about ChatGPT. Ban it? Embrace it? Teachers have scrambled to try to get ahead of the “cheating” problem, and to find ways in which AI can support education. Some Students have scrambled to figure out how to use AI without their teachers detecting it. And education technology companies have scrambled to create AI powered ed tech. And have made many promises about how generative AI will transform education.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sal Khan:\u003c/strong> But I think we’re at the cusp of using AI for probably the biggest positive transformation that education has ever seen, and the way we’re going to do that is by giving every student on the planet an artificially intelligent but amazing personal tutor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> My career has been devoted to studying education technology. Over and over again, we’ve seen new technologies emerge in education, and the technology developers will promise, every time, that the new tech will transform and democratize education.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sal Khan :\u003c/strong>That’s what’s about to happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> And while the technologies do sometimes help teachers and students, those big transformations to schools, they never happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> But there is something different about Chat GPT and other AI. Throughout history, most education technology has been adopted by schools, who hope it will help them do better work, teaching students. But Generative AI wasn’t invited into schools. Not for the most part. It crashed the party. Even if schools ban it from school laptops, students can often get around that ban, by using Bing, for example. Or they have their own laptop. Or they can access it on their mobile phone, which over 95% of teenagers have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, the kids have access to generative AI. And they’re using it, whether their teachers want them to, or not. That’s having a big impact on schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, a little about me, and this project. I am a journalist, and for the past year and a half, I’ve been working with Justin and other colleagues at MIT’s Teaching Systems Lab. We’ve interviewed over 85 teachers and school leaders, and over 35 students about how all of this is actually playing out in schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’ve been hearing about why students cheat using AI, what teachers are doing to stop them, and how some teachers and students have found ChatGPT to be helpful for learning. And for the next several weeks, we’re going to share what we’ve learned with you in a mini series we’re calling the Homework Machine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> And now, Jesse, who has immersed himself in this research, will be our host and guide for these episodes. Jesse, you can take it from here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Thanks Justin, but not so fast. We’re going to want your historical knowledge about educational technology to help us unpack and contextualize these stories. So stay close, and keep your mic handy. In fact, we’re going to hear from you again in this episode.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> Sounds good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Alright, well, let’s go back to A beginning: December of 2022. We’ll start with Steve Ouellette. He’s a technology director at the Westwood School district, southwest of Boston. His job includes keeping track of computers and software for the district, but also helping teachers think through how to use technology in their work. He remembers the exact moment he heard about generative AI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette:\u003c/strong> So I think it was, it was December 8th. And I was home sick with Covid. I got an email, I’m on a listserv, you know, with all the tech directors in Massachusetts and I got an email that said: Have AI write your next English paper. The sub caption was: Buckle up, here it comes. And someone had basically shared a video of this thing called ChatGPT, that was generating an essay about, I think it was about Raisin in the Sun. And I was like “What is going on here?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>Watching the video, Ouellette says he immediately realized that this was a big deal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that was, that was a moment. You know, I’ve been in this business since 1993 and I don’t remember having like, a really specific, like, reaction to something the way I did when I saw that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Ouellette emailed the district’s superintendent, and explained the situation to her. There was a new technological tool, available to students, that could do their schoolwork. Pretty effectively.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette:\u003c/strong> And she had no idea what it was. And I explained to her what it was and sent her a link and she shot back to me five minutes later and she’s like, yeah, we need to write about this. And so we, we felt, we both felt this sense of like, urgency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> The superintendent asked Ouellette to write a memo to the district’s teachers. Ouellette is a technology guy, and out of curiosity and excitement, he decided to experiment. Could ChatGPT draft the memo? He asked ChatGPT to write the first draft and sent it to the superintendent. She read it and told Ouellette, this is pretty formal language, it doesn’t sound like you. Make it more casual sounding. But Ouellette didn’t rewrite the memo himself. He prompted ChatGPT to revise the memo. And he told it: “Make it more conversational.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette:\u003c/strong> I said, you need to write something funny about how, you know France was gonna win the World Cup. And it like, seamlessly incorporated a little like parenthetical thing about, oh by the way, France is gonna win the World Cup. And in the way it did, it was like magnificent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Here’s the memo ChatGPT wrote:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>ChatGPT: \u003c/strong> ChatGPT could also be used to help students learn other languages, such as Spanish or French (which, by the way, I think will win the 2022 World Cup). Imagine being able to have a conversation with ChatGPT in French and receiving instant corrections and feedback on your pronunciation and grammar. The possibilities are truly endless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Side note, I’m not that impressed with how ChatGPT did with that World Cup joke. It says that “French” will win the world cup, not “France”. But, that aside, they sent the memo out that Monday. Remember, this was December of 2022.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the next few months, Ouellette formed an AI working group in the district. They brought in a guest speaker. They looked at academic policies. They talked to teachers and students. And by the summer of 2023, they had revised academic integrity guidelines as well as some basic training for teachers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette:\u003c/strong> The goal was to inform staff about what this stuff is, to let them know that there are guidelines, and that if they have students, you know, in grades eight or higher, they can use it with their students. But we also wanted to inform staff how to use it for themselves to make their own work more efficient. The theory behind that is if they’re using it, then they’ll be more informed to use it responsibly with their kids. And it’s nowhere near where what it needs to be. I’ll be the first to admit it, but we did something.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> What Westwood did was quite a bit more than most districts. Last fall, a survey found only about one quarter of teachers said their school district had provided any guidance or professional development, about AI. That’s two years after the arrival of the technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Westwood, the faculty learned about ChatGPT pretty early on. Likely before many of their students heard about it. That was NOT true for other schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> The First Time I heard about ChatGPT was in my English Class.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>This is Nanki Kaur. She just graduated from American High School, in Fremont, California. And she heard about ChatGPT from another student back in the spring of 2023.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> We were having a conversation about how we were going to approach our research paper assignment that was coming up, and you would have to pick an individual of American significance and prove why they were of American significance and what impact they had. And he was talking about how he just asked this AI platform about how his person of American Significance who was BLEEP, had an impact on America and he got a really strong thesis statement. And he said, I didn’t even have to do anything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Now, I bleeped that last bit so this student won’t get in trouble.But the point here, Nanki says the thesis statement was actually pretty good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> And we were all confused and we were like, what are you talking about? Like how did you not have to do anything and how do you have such a strong thesis statement? ’cause we were just learning how to write a thesis statement at that time. And he said, there’s this online platform, it’s driven by artificial intelligence and it just writes it for you and it’s, it’s really thorough.It’s really good. You guys should try it. And so that was the first time I heard about it and I was shocked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>Nanki talked with our colleague Holly McDede, a reporter based in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Holly McDede:\u003c/strong> Did you try it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> I did go home and try it. Not for the same assignment, but I went home and I looked it up like Chat GPT, OpenAI, what is it? And then I asked it a couple questions like what is the weather like, and if I were to write a story about a certain situation,could you write me a story? And it actually answered all my prompts and it wrote me like a solid paragraph, and so I was shocked. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Nanki says she doesn’t know what the other student did with his thesis statement, but she has a guess:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> I think he did turn it in and I don’t know what kind of disciplinary action he got because there wasn’t really much set in stone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Holly McDede:\u003c/strong> Do you suspect he didn’t get any disciplinary action?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> I do suspect that because he was oddly smug about how well he had done on that assignment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> As far as Nanki knows, that student didn’t get in any trouble. In fact, she’s not sure the teachers knew about ChatGPT at that point. And Nanki says that the school didn’t seem to catch on that students were using ChatGPT to cheat until the fall of 2023, the next school year. A whole year after ChatGPT launched.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Nanki says when they did realize what was happening, the school came down hard. Nanki’s AP English teacher held a special class meeting to present the new academic integrity policy, with a list of sanctions if students were caught using Chat GPT or other AI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> Which included, zeros on the assignments or administrative disciplinary action. And if worse comes to worst, then it would be, suspensions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> At American High School Nanki says their policies didn’t just ban ChatGPT. Students were also told they couldn’t use Grammarly, the grammar check program, or similar AI tools that are often built into students’ browsers. But, the policies weren’t applied consistently. Nanki says her social studies teacher actually encouraged her to use AI for research.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> Because she said, I think it’s a really good tool to get all the facts in one spot. Obviously, I’m gonna ask you guys to fact check and cross check, make sure that everything is correct. But I think it’s a really great, you know, tool for you guys to use so that you have everything in one place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Holly McDede:\u003c/strong> Was that confusing for you or other students?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nanki Kaur:\u003c/strong> It was confusing for me, personally because I was like, I just don’t want to use it at all. Like I don’t even care because I don’t need like this habit. I don’t want it on my computer. I don’t want it anywhere, like I just want it like away from me because I didn’t want to jeopardize any chance of having a good grade in that class or in any of my classes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Some 3000 miles away from Nanki, another student had quite a different experience. Woody Goss was wrapping up 8th grade in a public school in the suburbs north of New York city when he spoke to us in the spring of 2024. He says his teachers didn’t really respond to the arrival of ChatGPT. And, that students used AI to get their schoolwork done in almost all of his classes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says his science class was the worst. The students all have laptops, but the teacher sits in front of the class, and can’t see what’s on the screens. Woody sits in the back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> And you can see everybody’s screen and you can see ChatGPT spitting out the text, and you can see them copy and pasting it into their paper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> You could literally see your fellow students using ChatGPT…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss: \u003c/strong> And copying and pasting it, yup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> If you could estimate how many people in a classroom of 20 students, how many were using it to cheat in the way you’re describing. How many would you say?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> So I’d say that there’s 10 people in that class using it for everything like cheating on, the whole paper is AI, I’d say there’s another 5 that probably half of it’s written by AI, but they do actually read it through and go, “Gee, maybe I don’t wanna include the part that says ‘As a large language model…’” but they like read it through and copy parts and splice bits and do whatever. Then I’d say of, so you’ve got five remaining. I’d say probably 4 of that 5 do the paper legitimately. So there’s 4 people doing it legitimately, and then there’s another one that’s going, and I don’t know, they, it’s kind of a mix, like they plagiarized stuff, but it’s like a paragraph in their entire thing. And I would say, of those 4, I mean, unless you’ve got a really, not a super smart tech kid, I’d say probably all four of those are using AI in some way. It’s just using it appropriately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>Woody says that some of his teachers were apparently totally oblivious to generative AI. But not his science teacher. She tried to encourage students to use it in a way that would help them learn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> That teacher was really trying, she seemed to grasp the concept that there was AI being used, and she was like, we’re gonna learn how to use AI, legitimately and like how do we use it in our research? And everybody heard, oh, you can use AI in your paper. And they all didn’t actually listen to what she was saying. Please use it as like a secondary source. And they all went, “okay, I’m gonna use ChatGPT to write my paper. “\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Um, do you have any teachers who effectively managed this? You know, either in their…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> No, I have the science teacher really tried. She really, she did actually provide, unlike all the other teachers, she actually provided instruction like, Hey, here’s how we’re gonna use it. Everybody ignored it, but she did try, right? All my other teachers just flat out ignored it the whole year. Um, except for the ELA teacher who said, we’re all writing paper benchmarks, which was a nightmare. That was just…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Why, why was that a nightmare?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> Because I’d say for a lot of us, not, not even including AI, we’re all digital people on Chromebooks. We don’t, we don’t know how to write a paper benchmark, which you could argue is its own problem. But then you had a million kids yelling and screaming about that, because god forbid you have to write a paper benchmark. Eww.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> So, according to Woody, his English teacher made the students write things out by hand, which actually did keep people from using ChatGPT. Although Woody thinks that created other problems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people have suggested that Woody doesn’t need to worry. According to him he’s doing his work legitimately. Assuming that’s true, and that the other students are using ChatGPT, then it’ll all come out in the wash. He’ll actually learn what he’s supposed to, and the others won’t, and eventually, that will be obvious, and give him an advantage. Maybe in getting into college, maybe on tests, maybe in life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Woody doesn’t see it that way. In his world. Grades matter. Students are under pressure. When students choose to cheat, that can impact how the teachers teach the material. And the pace of learning, which puts even more pressure on the students who are trying to do the work themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woody Goss:\u003c/strong> I mean, it’s frustrating. It’s a compounding effect. I’d say at the beginning of the year, there weren’t a lot of students using AI, and I’d say it’s shifted as the pacing gets faster, then more kids feel like they need it ’cause they feel like they’re gonna fail if they don’t have it. So it piles on itself, and it also, I was never the fast worker in the class. I can do the work, but I’m like dyslexic anyway, so it takes me forever to do the work anyway. I’d say the number of people not using it, like the number of people holding out and being like, “I’m gonna do my work legitimately” is going down because it’s just, there’s no room for, especially in the district where I am, where a lot of, we’re very grade grubby.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s expected, like you gotta have an A in every class. So everybody is, “I gotta get that A, I gotta get this assignment in on time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> All right. I’d like to bring Justin Reich back to the program. Justin has studied technology in schools over the decades, and he can help us make sense of the stories we just heard. Welcome back Justin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> Thanks for having me, Jesse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> So the interviews that I shared took place over a year ago, and we’re now coming up on 3 years since ChatGPT was unveiled in November of 2022. So I’m curious what overall reactions you’re having as you listen back to these stories.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> Well, the first thing it makes me think of is something that we’ve talked about before, which is just this idea of instantaneous arrival is so unusual for an education technology. I mean, the joke we make sometimes is that, you know, “no kid ever dragged their own smart board into a classroom”. Typically education technology was purchased by schools, and that meant the schools could have at least something of a plan before they gave all their teachers online grade books, or they bought all their kids’ Chromebooks, or they bought all their kids’ iPads, or whatever else it is. But there is zero time for planning. There’s zero time for preparation. You know, Steve Ouellette says, “This is urgent”.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s just, there’s something which is happening right now and we need to deal with it. And then schools have really different capacities to deal with that. So an affluent place like Westwood, where they probably have recovered pretty well from the pandemic where things are feeling like they’re back on track, they probably have plenty of resources to hire substitute teachers, you know, the population of kids they serve have all kinds of challenges, but not nearly, the challenges they might encounter in some of their urban neighborhoods nearby or rural neighborhoods out west. They’re in a good place to be able to say, “Oh, we’ve, I’ve got some extra time to be able to manage this. Like, let’s get started.” Let’s, you know, teachers have extra time to be on the working group, “Let’s get started working on this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For, at other places, many, many schools in November 2022, in the spring of 2023, were still drowning in the challenges of chronic absenteeism of learning, loss of school that felt like it really hadn’t bounced back yet. And so this new thing shows up, and not every school in the country is on the same footing in figuring out how to deal with it. But of course, even if a school doesn’t have an institutional plan to deal with it, every teacher has to deal with it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Ms O’Neill walks into her classroom and all of her students are using Bing. And she goes, well, you know, Bing! Bing is the web browser that you use to download Google Chrome, so you can never have to use Bing again. Why are all my students using Bing on a Chromebook? Like none of this makes sense. And what a great story, to remind us how significantly and quickly things changed and how there was no choice to postpone this. There was no way to say, ah, “ we’ll just buy, maybe we’ll buy the smart boards, but we’ll buy them next year, or we’ll buy them two years after that. Let’s just work on other stuff for now.” You, as an educator, had this in your classroom and had to decide what you were gonna do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Well, speaking of no option to postpone, I wanna play you something that Sam Altman said about all of this back in 2023. You know that Sam Altman was one of the founders of OpenAI, the company responsible for ChatGPT. And he’s the CEO. You may remember he was actually ousted from the company briefly and then reinstated in an episode they’re now calling the blip, and one thing he’s gotten some criticism for is just releasing new versions of ChatGPT out into the world, arguably without a lot of thought about what impact that might have or without a lot of support for institutions like schools that might be impacted by AI. And in 2023, the hosts of the New York Times podcast, Hard Fork asked him about that. And here’s what he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Sam Altman:\u003c/strong> You know, one example that I mean is instructive because it was the first and the loudest is what happened with ChatGPT and education. Days, at least weeks. But I think days after the release of ChatGPT school districts were like falling all over themselves to ban ChatGPT. And that didn’t really surprise us, like that we could have predicted and did predict.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The thing that happened after that quickly was, you know, like weeks to months, was school districts and teachers saying, Hey, actually we made a mistake and this is really important part of the future of education and the benefits far outweigh the downside. And not only are we banning it, we’re encouraging our teachers to make use of it in the classroom. We’re encouraging our students to get really good at this tool because it’s gonna be part of the way people live.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, you know, then there was like a big discussion about what, what the kind of path forward should be. And that is just not something that could have happened without releasing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>So Justin, you were paying pretty close attention in 2022 and 2023 when ChatGPT was first unleashed upon schools. Do you think Altman’s account is historically accurate?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich: \u003c/strong>Well, I actually got to hear Sam Altman give some version of this because he came to MIT, not long after November, 2022, gave a talk that was facilitated by Sally Kornbluth, our president. And he said something along the lines, I think the question was something like, you know, where are there big wins for ChatGPT? And he was like, well, education’s a slam dunk. This is a place where very obviously, we’re seeing benefits, not really seeing any downsides. Things are just immediately improving society. So this is gonna be a fast win for us. And yeah, you know, it’s, it’s delusional.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not at all connected to what is actually happening in reality in schools. I’m sure some of it is, if I built a technology product, I’d be pretty excited to hear the voices of people who are happy with it. You know, people in powerful places don’t always have great sources of information about what happens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes : \u003c/strong>And, and everything he says has a kind of factual basis to it, but it adds up to a kind of orderly picture of what happens, that to me doesn’t really reflect the chaos that educators were experiencing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich:\u003c/strong> Also, if you just know something about schools, this idea that, like, “as soon as it was released they were all doing something”, it’s like, no, that’s not how schools work. And then “really quickly after doing it, they reverse themselves” and you’re like, no, you do not under- like, schools are carrier fleets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Schools are super tankers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Justin Reich: \u003c/strong>Schools are super tankers. Like when they turn, they turn slowly and they turn with inertia. And when they go back it takes a lot of time to move that backwards, but even just in the handful of stories that we heard,we heard from a couple of students, one teacher who said there was nothing happening in their schools. It wasn’t being banned, it wasn’t being encouraged. Teachers were kind of figuring out on their own what to do with it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And I mean, if you talk to teachers and students, it’s not very hard to get stories where you get the sense of like, oh, this is not an unambiguously good thing. Like this is making Nanki nervous because pretty clearly students are using this to bypass their learning in ways that they shouldn’t. Woody is really concerned that his classes are moving faster than they’re supposed to because teachers are getting the wrong feedback. From students because students, instead of doing the work and doing the learning and figuring things out, are just copying, pasting questions from ChatGPT into their assignments and this, and Woody is trying to, is telling us he’s trying to do the right thing and this isn’t working here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And even Steve, who’s in like the best possible circumstances, a really experienced, really talented tech director with a really supportive superintendent, really supportive community, cool things happening in their schools. As much good work as he’s doing, I think he still feels like, that he’s just barely taking the first steps that might be needed to get his hands wrapped around this thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> Yeah, and in fact, I actually played that Sam Altman tape for him and you know, he, and arguably what Sam Altman describes most closely resembles Westwood and Steve Ouellette, like of all the people we heard from, his story is the closest to Sam Altman’s account of what happened. But this, this is what he had to say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Ouellette: \u003c/strong>Not to highlight Westwood, but when I talk to my peers in neighboring districts, no one’s doing anything. Like they’re just starting to create, think about creating guidelines. And so, we’re kind of just like building the plane, you know, while we fly it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes:\u003c/strong> For the next 6 episodes, we’re going to hear stories of building the plane as we fly it. We’ll hear from the teachers who are struggling to prevent their students from using ChatGPT to bypass learning and thinking; We’ll talk with students about why they turn to AI to get their work done, and what it feels like to be falsely accused of using AI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And we’ll hear from teachers, students, and school leaders who have found ways to use AI to help them teach or learn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in our next episode, what even is generative AI? And why does the so-called “jagged frontier” of this technology make it so challenging when it shows up in schools?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It doesn’t think, it doesn’t understand, it predicts one word at a time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jesse Dukes: \u003c/strong>That’s next time on the Homework Machine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This episode was produced by me, Jesse Dukes. We had editing from Ruxandra Guidi and Alexandra Salomon. Reporting and research from Holly McDede, Natasha Esteves, Andrew Meriwether, and Chris Bagg. Sound design and music supervision by Steven Jackson. Production support from Yebu Ji. Data analysis from Manee Ngozi Nnamani and Manasa Kudumu.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Special thanks to Josh Sheldon, Camila Lee, Liz Hutner, and Eric Klopfer. Administrative support from Jessica Rondon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The research and reporting you heard in this episode was supported by the Spencer Foundation, the Kapor Foundation, the Jameel World Education Lab, the Social and Ethical Responsibility of Computing Initiative at MIT, and the RAISE initiative, Responsible AI for Social Empowerment and Education also at MIT.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, we had support from Google’s Academic Research Awards program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Homework Machine is a production of the Teaching Systems Lab, Justin Reich Director, the lab is located at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, more commonly known to the world as MIT.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://teachlabpodcast.com/\">teachlabpodcast.com\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://tsl.mit.edu/AI\">tsl.mit.edu/AI\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ki Sung:\u003cbr>\n\u003c/strong>That was The Homework Machine from MIT’s Teachlab podcast.\u003cbr>\nYou can find the whole series wherever you get your podcasts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We’ll be back next month with a brand new episode of Mindshift.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>MindShift is supported in part by the generosity of the William & Flora Hewlett Foundation and members of KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>New survey data finds that nearly 1 in 5 high schoolers say they or someone they know has had a romantic relationship with artificial intelligence. And 42% of students surveyed say they or someone they know have used AI for companionship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s according to \u003ca href=\"https://cdt.org/insights/hand-in-hand-schools-embrace-of-ai-connected-to-increased-risks-to-students/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">new research\u003c/a> from the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT), a nonprofit that advocates for civil rights, civil liberties and responsible use of data and technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CDT conducted national surveys of roughly 800 sixth through 12th grade public school teachers, 1,000 ninth through 12th grade students and 1,000 parents. The vast majority — 86% of students, 85% of educators and 75% of parents — say they used AI during the last school year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CDT’s Elizabeth Laird, one of the authors of the report, says the surveys showed some strong correlations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among them: “The more ways that a student reports that their school uses AI, the more likely they are to report things like ‘I know someone who considers AI to be a friend,’ ‘I know someone who considers AI to be a romantic partner.'”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Data breaches, deepfakes and damaged trust\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Laird says the surveys found higher levels of AI use in schools — defined as seven to 10 school-related uses for teachers, and four to six for students — correlates with increased exposure to data breaches, troubling interactions between students and AI and AI-generated deepfakes, or manipulated videos or photos that can be used to sexually harass and bully students.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This technology is a new vector for sexual harassment and bullying, which were long-standing issues [before widespread use of AI],” Laird says, “and this has become a new way to exacerbate that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the report, 28% of teachers who use AI for many school-related tasks say their school experienced a large-scale data breach, compared to 18% of teachers who don’t use AI or use it for only a few tasks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Laird, who previously worked as a data privacy officer for D.C.’s state education agency, says she believes the more data schools share with AI systems, the more they risk a data breach.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“AI systems take a lot of data, they also spit out a lot of information too,” she says. “That is contributing to that connection.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Teachers with higher levels of school-related AI use were also more likely to report that an AI system they were using in class failed to work as intended.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These teachers were also more likely to report that the use of AI damaged community trust in schools. 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She says this is especially concerning for students who can’t afford their own personal computers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So if you are someone who has a personal device and doesn’t have to use a school-issued device, you can essentially afford to keep your documents and messages private,” Laird says.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Risks to student wellbeing\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Students who attend schools that use AI a lot were also more likely to report that they or a friend had used AI for mental health support, as a companion, as a way to escape reality and to have a romantic relationship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When students reported having conversations with AI systems for personal reasons, and not for school work, 31% said they used a device or software provided by their school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think students should know that they are not actually talking to a person. 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In an interview, she explained why she is cautious about the ability of AI to make us better writers and is still testing how to use the new technology effectively.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>All in the timing \u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Meyer says that just because ChatGPT is available 24/7 doesn’t mean students should consult it at the start of the writing process. Instead, Meyer believes that students would generally learn more if they wrote a first draft on their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s when AI could be most helpful, she thinks. With some prompting, a chatbot could provide immediate writing feedback targeted to each students’ needs. One student might need to practice writing shorter sentences. Another might be struggling with story structure and outlining. AI could theoretically meet an entire classroom’s individual needs faster than a human teacher.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Meyer’s experiments, she inserted AI only after the first draft was done as part of the revision process. In a \u003ca href=\"https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666920X23000784\">study\u003c/a> published in 2024, she randomly assigned 200 German high school students to receive AI feedback after writing a draft of an essay in English. Their revised essays were stronger than those of 250 students who were also told to revise, but didn’t get help from AI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In surveys, those with AI feedback also said they felt more motivated to rewrite than those who didn’t get feedback. That motivation is critical. Often students aren’t in the mood to rewrite, and without revisions, students can’t become better writers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meyer doesn’t consider her experiment proof that AI is a great writing teacher. She didn’t compare it with how student writing improved after human feedback. Her experiment compared only AI feedback with no feedback.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most importantly, one dose of AI writing feedback wasn’t enough to elevate students’ writing skills. On a second, fresh essay topic, the students who had previously received AI feedback didn’t write any better than the students who hadn’t been helped by AI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s unclear how many rounds of AI feedback it would take to boost a student’s writing skills more permanently, not just help revise the essay at hand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Meyer doesn’t know whether a student would want to keep discussing writing with an AI bot over and over again. Maybe students were willing to engage with it in this experiment because it was a novelty, but could soon tire of it. That’s next on Meyer’s research agenda.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>A viral MIT study\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>A much smaller MIT study published earlier this year echoes Meyer’s theory. “\u003ca href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.08872v1\">Your Brain on ChatGPT\u003c/a>” went viral because it seemed to say that using ChatGPT to help write an essay made students’ brains less engaged. Researchers found that students who wrote an essay without any online tools had stronger brain connectivity and activity than students who used AI or consulted Google to search for source materials. (Using Google while writing wasn’t nearly as bad for the brain as AI.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although those results made \u003ca href=\"https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/\">headlines\u003c/a>, there was more to the experiment. The students who initially wrote an essay on their own were later given ChatGPT to help improve their essays. That switch to ChatGPT boosted brain activity, in contrast to what the neuroscientists found during the initial writing process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These studies add to the evidence that delaying AI a bit, after some initial thinking and drafting, could be a sweet spot in learning. That’s something researchers need to test more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Meyer remains concerned about giving AI tools to very weak writers and to young children who haven’t developed basic writing skills. “This could be a real problem,” said Meyer. “It could be detrimental to use these tools too early.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Cheating your way to learning?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Meyer doesn’t think it’s always a bad idea for students to ask ChatGPT to do the writing for them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just as young artists learn to paint by copying masterpieces in museums, students might learn to write better by copying good writing. (The late great New Yorker editor John Bennet taught Jill to write this way. He called it “copy work” and he encouraged his journalism students to do it every week by copying longhand the words of legendary writers, not AI.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meyer suggests that students ask ChatGPT to write a sample essay that meets their teacher’s assignment and grading criteria. The next step is key. If students pretend it’s their own piece and submit it, that’s cheating. They’ve also offloaded cognitive work to technology and haven’t learned anything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the AI essay can be an effective teaching tool, in theory, if students study the arguments, organizational structure, sentence construction and vocabulary before writing a new draft in their own words. 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That’s something researchers need to test more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Meyer remains concerned about giving AI tools to very weak writers and to young children who haven’t developed basic writing skills. “This could be a real problem,” said Meyer. “It could be detrimental to use these tools too early.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Cheating your way to learning?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Meyer doesn’t think it’s always a bad idea for students to ask ChatGPT to do the writing for them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just as young artists learn to paint by copying masterpieces in museums, students might learn to write better by copying good writing. (The late great New Yorker editor John Bennet taught Jill to write this way. He called it “copy work” and he encouraged his journalism students to do it every week by copying longhand the words of legendary writers, not AI.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meyer suggests that students ask ChatGPT to write a sample essay that meets their teacher’s assignment and grading criteria. The next step is key. If students pretend it’s their own piece and submit it, that’s cheating. They’ve also offloaded cognitive work to technology and haven’t learned anything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the AI essay can be an effective teaching tool, in theory, if students study the arguments, organizational structure, sentence construction and vocabulary before writing a new draft in their own words. Ideally, the next assignment should be better if students have learned through that analysis and internalized the style and techniques of the model essay, Meyer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My hypothesis would be as long as there’s cognitive effort with it, as long as there’s a lot of time on task and like critical thinking about the output, then it should be fine,” said Meyer.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Reconsidering praise\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Everyone likes a compliment. But too much praise can drown learning just as too much water can keep flowers from blooming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>ChatGPT has a tendency to pour the praise on thick and often begins with banal flattery, like “Great job!” even when a student’s writing needs a lot of work. In Meyer’s test of whether AI feedback can improve students’ writing, she intentionally told ChatGPT not to start with praise and instead go straight to constructive criticism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her parsimonious approach to praise was inspired by a \u003ca href=\"https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0969594X.2023.2179956\">2023 writing study\u003c/a> about what motivates students to revise. The study found that when teachers started off with general praise, students were left with the false impression that their work was already good enough so they didn’t put in the extra effort to rewrite.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Meyer’s experiment, the praise-free feedback was effective in getting students to revise and improve their essays. But she didn’t set up a direct competition between the two approaches — praise-free vs. praise-full — so we don’t know for sure which is more effective when students are interacting with AI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Being stingy with praise rubs real teachers the wrong way. After Meyer removed praise from the feedback, teachers told her they wanted to restore it. “They wondered about why the feedback was so negative,” Meyer said. “That’s not how they would do it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meyer and other researchers may one day solve the puzzle of how to turn AI chatbots into great writing coaches. But whether students will have the willpower or desire to forgo an instantly written essay is another matter. As long as ChatGPT continues to allow students to take the easy way out, it’s human nature to do so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Shirley Liu is a graduate student in education at Northwestern University. 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How do you compare to textbooks and edtech companies?” The answer: “Yes, I can absolutely be a useful study tool, but the best results come from knowing how and when to use me alongside textbooks and edtech platforms.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then I talked to people running some of those platforms and some students who use (or once used) them. As generative AI plants its stake in education, they’re all doing what they can to acclimate.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How companies are adapting\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Chegg sells textbooks and offers a slate of digital services, such as generating flash cards and practice questions. In May, the company laid off about 250 employees, or 22% of its workforce, partly due to students turning to generative AI, it confirmed to NPR. 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A new feature shows subscribers side-by-side panels with Chegg’s answer to a question next to answers from other platforms, including ChatGPT, Google Gemini and Claude.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Macmillan Learning sells textbooks and e-books, and it offers quizzes and study guides. Like Chegg, it has incorporated an AI tool into its paid plan and began rolling it out late last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Macmillan’s tool doesn’t give students straight-up answers; instead, it guides them to the solution through open-ended questions that expose flawed thinking (aka the Socratic method).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It Socratically supports them so that they have that learning experience that they can use … when they have to do it themselves on the exam,” says Tim Flem, Macmillan Learning’s chief product officer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Flem claims Macmillan’s AI tutor is more accurate than AI chatbots, as it draws from the company’s textbooks. The platform also reduces “content switching,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you’re switching between that tab and that tab, you notice how you’re always kind of like, ‘Wait a minute, what did it say over here?'” Flem says. “So our AI tutor is right there next to the problem that the student is working on.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How students are adapting\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Some students are mixing and matching AI and traditional tools. Bryan Wheatley combined ChatGPT with Quizlet and Socratic (another AI tool) to study. A recent graduate of Prairie View A&M University in Texas, he initially approached ChatGPT with trepidation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/2000x1333+0+0/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Ff6%2F04%2F47557dbd442383221d3004cd1cc1%2Fstudents-5.jpg\" alt=\"Bryan Wheatley graduated from Prairie View A&M University last year with a degree in sociology.\">\u003cfigcaption>Bryan Wheatley graduated from Prairie View A&M University last year with a degree in sociology. \u003ccite> (Grace Raver | NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Something that’s really adaptive is kind of crazy in a sense,” he says, though he went on to use it to outline essays and for other tasks. He says ChatGPT is correct about half the time, and he had to do a lot of cross-referencing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He was one of the 66% of students in bachelor’s, master’s and doctoral programs using ChatGPT regularly, according to July 2024 research from \u003ca href=\"https://www.digitaleducationcouncil.com/post/what-students-want-key-results-from-dec-global-ai-student-survey-2024\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the Digital Education Council\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The survey also found that over 50% of students believed too much reliance on AI would negatively impact their academic performance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sally Simpson is trying to hold the line. The Georgetown University student, who’s working on a Ph.D. in German literature, does not use generative AI. In her undergrad days, she used websites like Quizlet and SparkNotes to reinforce information she processed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, she sees undergraduates use generative AI to complete homework assignments and summarize bodies of work they didn’t read. “It cheapens people’s education,” she says. “I think it’s an important skill to be able to read an article, or read a text, and not only be able to summarize it, but think about it critically.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/1900x1358+0+0/resize/1200/quality/75/format/jpeg/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fcc%2F16%2F7808caae4ebfbcfde6b67cc083eb%2Fstudents-09.jpg\" alt=\"Sally Simpson is studying for a doctorate in German literature at Georgetown University.\">\u003cfigcaption>Sally Simpson is studying for a doctorate in German literature at Georgetown University. \u003ccite> (Grace Raver | NPR)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Dontrell Shoulders, a senior studying social work at Kentucky State University, was an avid Quizlet user and still uses it to study for tests. With Quizlet, he has to seek out answers. Generative AI doesn’t provide much of a challenge, he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re just putting something in a computer, having to type it up, and just like, ‘Here you go,’ ” he says. “Are you going to remember it after you just typed it in? You’re not.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How professors are adapting\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Amy Lawyer, the department chair of equine administration at the University of Louisville’s business school, says some students still use online study guides like Chegg and SparkNotes. “Students are to a point where they’re going to use any resources available to them,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of those resources, ChatGPT has had the most significant impact on her classroom. She uses it herself for editing and encourages her students to do the same. 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The platform also reduces “content switching,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you’re switching between that tab and that tab, you notice how you’re always kind of like, ‘Wait a minute, what did it say over here?'” Flem says. “So our AI tutor is right there next to the problem that the student is working on.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How students are adapting\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Some students are mixing and matching AI and traditional tools. Bryan Wheatley combined ChatGPT with Quizlet and Socratic (another AI tool) to study. 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They may view tech negatively, when in reality, kids’ relationship to their devices are nuanced. “In some cases, there are [online] cultures that can be positive and supportive,” said James. “But in other cases, they can play into some of the challenges and hard stuff.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After several years of conducting research with students, James co-founded the \u003ca href=\"https://digitalthriving.gse.harvard.edu/\">Center for Digital Thriving\u003c/a>, which develops research-backed strategies to help educators and families support kids in navigating tech in healthy, values-driven ways. “Technology is built into the fabric of young people’s lives,” said James. “So how can we support them with the skills, the dispositions and the sense of agency to make good choices?” The Center for Digital Thriving highlights \u003ca href=\"https://digitalthriving.gse.harvard.edu/course-for-educators-8-mindshifts-for-teaching-digital-wellbeing/\">ways adults might shift their thinking\u003c/a> so they can help young people thrive in a world with evolving and increasingly absorbing tech tools. \u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Name the Thinking Traps\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"How Your Brain Tricks You Into Negative Thinking\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/E9aV4mgVya4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen>\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A growing number of young people are struggling with anxiety, depression and feelings of disconnection. “Too often, the conversation, especially lately, pinpoints technology as a cause of these things,” said James. For example, a teen prone to comparison\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/65237/heres-how-a-small-break-from-your-smartphone-can-boost-your-mood\"> might feel worse\u003c/a> after scrolling through polished Instagram posts. Or a student already worried about friendships might spiral after seeing that a message was “left on read.” James calls this a thinking trap, which is a cognitive distortion that kicks in when a person makes assumptions without evidence. “There’s a lot of distance between what we see and what people are actually thinking,” she said. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/65237/heres-how-a-small-break-from-your-smartphone-can-boost-your-mood\">adolescent brains are built for connection\u003c/a>, the pull of the phone can be particularly hard to resist. “Even the things that appear neutral or benign can play on those adolescent vulnerabilities,” said James. “Adolescents care what their friends think, they care very much about the status of their friendships, their place in the world and how people look at them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, adults also feel the pull of persuasive design features like notifications, infinite scroll and streaks, too. Recognizing this can increase empathy and build common ground, which can shift adults from an “us vs. them” mindset to an “us and them” approach when it comes to technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To help students notice how technology may influence their thought patterns, the Center created a glossary of \u003ca href=\"https://digitalthriving.gse.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/THINKING-TRAPS-GLOSSARY.pdf\">seven thinking traps\u003c/a>, drawn from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/tag/cognitive-behavioral-therapy\">cognitive behavioral therapy\u003c/a>. These include “mind reading,” “personalizing” and “all-or-nothing thinking.” Just learning about these traps can make them easier to manage. “Our hope is that it opens up a bigger conversation about some of the psychological vulnerabilities we all have,” said James. “We can acknowledge that some of what we’re reading may not be real.” Young people are also encouraged to prove themselves wrong when they recognize that they are falling into these patterns of thinking by seeing what evidence they have and asking themselves what advice they’d give a friend who is experiencing this same thinking trap. \u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Start With Values, Not Apps\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>When kids seem \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62233/how-to-help-your-kids-navigate-social-media-without-getting-lost\">stressed or glued to their screens\u003c/a>, many parents start by asking: “What is it about Instagram?” or “Why does TikTok pull you in?” James recommended a different approach that focuses on kids’ needs rather than the tech itself. 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She noted that highlighting values like autonomy and fairness is usually an effective motivator for students because they do not want to be told what to do whether it’s by their parents or their devices. \u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Tech Habits, Not Tech Shaming\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Many students already feel conflicted about their relationship with screens. In interviews, they told James things like, “I don’t want to look back at my childhood and think I wasted it on a pointless game,” or “My friends are always glued to their phones and so am I. And I hate that.” \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To help kids feel less alone and more empowered the Center created the \u003ca href=\"https://digitalthriving.gse.harvard.edu/resources/tech-habits/\">Tech Habits Challenge\u003c/a>. 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"content": "\u003cp>When hackers hit a school district, they can expose Social Security numbers, home addresses, and even disability and disciplinary records. Now, cybersecurity advocates warn that the Trump administration’s budget and personnel cuts, along with rule changes, are stripping away key defenses that schools need.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Cyberattacks on schools are escalating and just when we need federal support the most, it’s being pulled away,” said Keith Krueger, chief executive officer of the Consortium for School Networking, an association of technology officials in K-12 schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The stakes are high. Schools are a \u003ca href=\"https://www.cisa.gov/K12Cybersecurity\">top target \u003c/a>in ransomware attacks, and cyber criminals have sometimes succeeded in shutting down whole school districts. The largest such incident occurred in December 2024, when \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/powerschool-hack-data-breach-protect-student-school-teacher-safe-rcna189029\">hackers stole personal student and teacher data from PowerSchool\u003c/a>, a company that runs student information systems and stores report cards. The theft included data from more than \u003ca href=\"https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/powerschool-hacker-claims-they-stole-data-of-62-million-students/\">60 million students\u003c/a> and almost 10 million teachers. PowerSchool paid an undisclosed ransom, but the criminals didn’t stop. Now, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theregister.com/2025/05/08/powerschool_data_extortionist/\">in a second round of extortion\u003c/a>, the same cyber criminals are demanding ransoms from \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/school-districts-hit-extortion-attempts-powerschool-breach-rcna205429\">school districts\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The federal government has been \u003ca href=\"https://www.schoolsafety.gov/sites/default/files/2024-02/SchoolSafety.gov%20Cybersecurity%20Resources%20for%20K-12%20Schools%20and%20School%20Districts%20Infographic_February%202024_508C.pdf\">stepping up efforts\u003c/a> to help schools, particularly since a\u003ca href=\"https://www.lausd.org/site/default.aspx?PageType=3&DomainID=4&ModuleInstanceID=4466&ViewID=6446EE88-D30C-497E-9316-3F8874B3E108&RenderLoc=0&FlexDataID=122768&PageID=1\"> 2022 cyber attack on the Los Angeles Unified School District\u003c/a>, the nation’s second largest. But now this urgently needed assistance is under threat.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Warning service\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Of chief concern is a cybersecurity service known as \u003ca href=\"https://www.cisecurity.org/ms-isac\">MS-ISAC\u003c/a>, which stands for Multi-State Information Sharing and Analysis Center. It warns more than 5,700 schools around the country that have signed up for the service about malware and other threats and recommends security patches. This technical service is free to schools, but is funded by an annual congressional appropriation of $27 million through the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), an agency within the Department of Homeland Security.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On March 6, the Trump administration announced a $10 million funding cut as part of broader budget and staffing cuts throughout CISA. That was ultimately negotiated down to $8.3 million, but the service still lost more than half of its remaining $15.7 budget for the year. The non-profit organization that runs it, the Center for Internet Security, is currently digging into its reserves to keep it operating. But those funds are expected to run out in the coming weeks, and it is unclear how the service will continue operating without charging user fees to schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Many districts don’t have the budget or resources to do this themselves, so not having access to the no cost services we offer is a big issue,” said Kelly Lynch Wyland, a spokeswoman for the Center for Internet Security.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Sharing threat information\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Another concern is the effective disbanding of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.k12dive.com/news/k-12-cybersecurity-federal-government-coordinating-council/711855/\">Government Coordinating Council\u003c/a>, which helps schools address ransomware attacks and other threats through policy advice, including how to respond to ransom requests, whom to inform when an attack happens and good practices for preventing attacks. This coordinating council was formed only a year ago by the Department of Education and CISA. It brings together 13 non-profit school organizations representing superintendents, state education leaders, technology officers and others. The council met frequently after the PowerSchool data breach to share information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, amid the second round of extortions, school leaders have not been able to meet because of a change in rules governing open meetings. The group was originally exempt from meeting publicly because it was discussing critical infrastructure threats. But the Department of Homeland Security, under the Trump administration, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ropesdataphiles.com/2025/05/cipac-disbandment-and-cisa-2015-reauthorization-recent-developments-in-the-u-s-cybersecurity-landscape/\">reinstated open meeting rules for certain advisory committee\u003c/a>s, including this one. That makes it difficult to speak frankly about efforts to thwart criminal activity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Non-governmental organizations are working to resurrect the council, but it would be in a diminished form without government participation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The FBI really comes in when there’s been an incident to find out who did it, and they have advice on whether you should pay or not pay your ransom,” said Krueger of the school network consortium.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>A federal role\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>A third concern is the elimination in March of the education Department’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.govtech.com/education/k-12/federal-layoffs-cut-50-percent-of-department-of-education-staff\">Office of Educational Technology\u003c/a>. This seven-person office dealt with education technology policies — including cybersecurity. It issued cybersecurity guidance to schools and held webinars and meetings to explain how schools could improve and shore up their defenses. It also ran a biweekly meeting to talk about K-12 cybersecurity across the Education Department, including offices that serve students with disabilities and English learners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eliminating this office has hampered efforts to decide which security controls, such as encryption or multi-factor authentication, should be in educational software and student information systems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many educators worry that without this federal coordination, student privacy is at risk. “My biggest concern is all the data that’s up in the cloud,” said Steve Smith, the founder of the Student Data Privacy Consortium and the former chief information officer for Cambridge Public Schools in Massachusetts. “Probably 80 to 90 percent of student data isn’t on school-district controlled services. It’s being shared with ed tech providers and hosted on their information systems.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Security controls\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“How do we ensure that those third party providers are providing adequate security against breaches and cyber attacks?” said Smith. “The office of ed tech was trying to bring people together to move toward an agreed upon national standard. They weren’t going to mandate a data standard, but there were efforts to bring people together and start having conversations about the expected minimum controls.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That federal effort ended, Smith said, with the new administration. But his consortium is still working on it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an era when policymakers are seeking to decrease the federal government’s involvement in education, arguing for a centralized, federal role may not be popular. But there’s long been a federal role for student data privacy, including making sure that school employees don’t mishandle and accidentally expose students’ personal information. The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act, commonly known as FERPA, protects student data. The Education Department continues to provide technical assistance to schools to comply with this law. Advocates for school cybersecurity say that the same assistance is needed to help schools prevent and defend against cyber crimes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We don’t expect every town to stand up their own army to protect themselves against China or Russia,” said Michael Klein, senior director for preparedness and response at the Institute for Security and Technology, a nonpartisan think tank. Klein was a senior advisor for cybersecurity in the Education Department during the previous administration. “In the same way, I don’t think we should expect every school district to stand up their own cyber-defense army to protect themselves against ransomware attacks from major criminal groups.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it’s not financially practical. According to the school network consortium only a third of school districts have a full-time employee or the equivalent dedicated to cybersecurity.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Budget storms ahead\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Some federal programs to help schools with cybersecurity are still running. The Federal Communications Commission launched a \u003ca href=\"https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-adopts-200m-cybersecurity-pilot-program-schools-libraries-0\">$200 million pilot program\u003c/a> to support cybersecurity efforts by schools and libraries. FEMA funds cybersecurity for state and local governments, which includes public schools. Through these funds, schools can obtain phishing training and malware detection. But with budget battles ahead, many educators fear these programs could also be cut.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perhaps the biggest risk is the end to the entire E-Rate program that helps schools pay for the internet access. The Supreme Court is slated to decide this term on whether the funding structure is an unconstitutional tax.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If that money goes away, they’re going to have to pull money from somewhere,” said Smith of the Student Data Privacy Consortium. “They’re going to try to preserve teaching and learning, as they should. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>When hackers hit a school district, they can expose Social Security numbers, home addresses, and even disability and disciplinary records. Now, cybersecurity advocates warn that the Trump administration’s budget and personnel cuts, along with rule changes, are stripping away key defenses that schools need.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Cyberattacks on schools are escalating and just when we need federal support the most, it’s being pulled away,” said Keith Krueger, chief executive officer of the Consortium for School Networking, an association of technology officials in K-12 schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The stakes are high. Schools are a \u003ca href=\"https://www.cisa.gov/K12Cybersecurity\">top target \u003c/a>in ransomware attacks, and cyber criminals have sometimes succeeded in shutting down whole school districts. The largest such incident occurred in December 2024, when \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/powerschool-hack-data-breach-protect-student-school-teacher-safe-rcna189029\">hackers stole personal student and teacher data from PowerSchool\u003c/a>, a company that runs student information systems and stores report cards. The theft included data from more than \u003ca href=\"https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/powerschool-hacker-claims-they-stole-data-of-62-million-students/\">60 million students\u003c/a> and almost 10 million teachers. PowerSchool paid an undisclosed ransom, but the criminals didn’t stop. Now, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theregister.com/2025/05/08/powerschool_data_extortionist/\">in a second round of extortion\u003c/a>, the same cyber criminals are demanding ransoms from \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/school-districts-hit-extortion-attempts-powerschool-breach-rcna205429\">school districts\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The federal government has been \u003ca href=\"https://www.schoolsafety.gov/sites/default/files/2024-02/SchoolSafety.gov%20Cybersecurity%20Resources%20for%20K-12%20Schools%20and%20School%20Districts%20Infographic_February%202024_508C.pdf\">stepping up efforts\u003c/a> to help schools, particularly since a\u003ca href=\"https://www.lausd.org/site/default.aspx?PageType=3&DomainID=4&ModuleInstanceID=4466&ViewID=6446EE88-D30C-497E-9316-3F8874B3E108&RenderLoc=0&FlexDataID=122768&PageID=1\"> 2022 cyber attack on the Los Angeles Unified School District\u003c/a>, the nation’s second largest. But now this urgently needed assistance is under threat.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Warning service\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Of chief concern is a cybersecurity service known as \u003ca href=\"https://www.cisecurity.org/ms-isac\">MS-ISAC\u003c/a>, which stands for Multi-State Information Sharing and Analysis Center. It warns more than 5,700 schools around the country that have signed up for the service about malware and other threats and recommends security patches. This technical service is free to schools, but is funded by an annual congressional appropriation of $27 million through the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), an agency within the Department of Homeland Security.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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But those funds are expected to run out in the coming weeks, and it is unclear how the service will continue operating without charging user fees to schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Many districts don’t have the budget or resources to do this themselves, so not having access to the no cost services we offer is a big issue,” said Kelly Lynch Wyland, a spokeswoman for the Center for Internet Security.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Sharing threat information\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Another concern is the effective disbanding of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.k12dive.com/news/k-12-cybersecurity-federal-government-coordinating-council/711855/\">Government Coordinating Council\u003c/a>, which helps schools address ransomware attacks and other threats through policy advice, including how to respond to ransom requests, whom to inform when an attack happens and good practices for preventing attacks. This coordinating council was formed only a year ago by the Department of Education and CISA. It brings together 13 non-profit school organizations representing superintendents, state education leaders, technology officers and others. The council met frequently after the PowerSchool data breach to share information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, amid the second round of extortions, school leaders have not been able to meet because of a change in rules governing open meetings. The group was originally exempt from meeting publicly because it was discussing critical infrastructure threats. But the Department of Homeland Security, under the Trump administration, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ropesdataphiles.com/2025/05/cipac-disbandment-and-cisa-2015-reauthorization-recent-developments-in-the-u-s-cybersecurity-landscape/\">reinstated open meeting rules for certain advisory committee\u003c/a>s, including this one. That makes it difficult to speak frankly about efforts to thwart criminal activity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Non-governmental organizations are working to resurrect the council, but it would be in a diminished form without government participation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The FBI really comes in when there’s been an incident to find out who did it, and they have advice on whether you should pay or not pay your ransom,” said Krueger of the school network consortium.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>A federal role\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>A third concern is the elimination in March of the education Department’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.govtech.com/education/k-12/federal-layoffs-cut-50-percent-of-department-of-education-staff\">Office of Educational Technology\u003c/a>. This seven-person office dealt with education technology policies — including cybersecurity. It issued cybersecurity guidance to schools and held webinars and meetings to explain how schools could improve and shore up their defenses. It also ran a biweekly meeting to talk about K-12 cybersecurity across the Education Department, including offices that serve students with disabilities and English learners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eliminating this office has hampered efforts to decide which security controls, such as encryption or multi-factor authentication, should be in educational software and student information systems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many educators worry that without this federal coordination, student privacy is at risk. “My biggest concern is all the data that’s up in the cloud,” said Steve Smith, the founder of the Student Data Privacy Consortium and the former chief information officer for Cambridge Public Schools in Massachusetts. “Probably 80 to 90 percent of student data isn’t on school-district controlled services. It’s being shared with ed tech providers and hosted on their information systems.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Security controls\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“How do we ensure that those third party providers are providing adequate security against breaches and cyber attacks?” said Smith. “The office of ed tech was trying to bring people together to move toward an agreed upon national standard. They weren’t going to mandate a data standard, but there were efforts to bring people together and start having conversations about the expected minimum controls.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That federal effort ended, Smith said, with the new administration. But his consortium is still working on it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an era when policymakers are seeking to decrease the federal government’s involvement in education, arguing for a centralized, federal role may not be popular. But there’s long been a federal role for student data privacy, including making sure that school employees don’t mishandle and accidentally expose students’ personal information. The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act, commonly known as FERPA, protects student data. The Education Department continues to provide technical assistance to schools to comply with this law. Advocates for school cybersecurity say that the same assistance is needed to help schools prevent and defend against cyber crimes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We don’t expect every town to stand up their own army to protect themselves against China or Russia,” said Michael Klein, senior director for preparedness and response at the Institute for Security and Technology, a nonpartisan think tank. Klein was a senior advisor for cybersecurity in the Education Department during the previous administration. “In the same way, I don’t think we should expect every school district to stand up their own cyber-defense army to protect themselves against ransomware attacks from major criminal groups.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And it’s not financially practical. According to the school network consortium only a third of school districts have a full-time employee or the equivalent dedicated to cybersecurity.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Budget storms ahead\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Some federal programs to help schools with cybersecurity are still running. The Federal Communications Commission launched a \u003ca href=\"https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-adopts-200m-cybersecurity-pilot-program-schools-libraries-0\">$200 million pilot program\u003c/a> to support cybersecurity efforts by schools and libraries. FEMA funds cybersecurity for state and local governments, which includes public schools. Through these funds, schools can obtain phishing training and malware detection. But with budget battles ahead, many educators fear these programs could also be cut.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perhaps the biggest risk is the end to the entire E-Rate program that helps schools pay for the internet access. The Supreme Court is slated to decide this term on whether the funding structure is an unconstitutional tax.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If that money goes away, they’re going to have to pull money from somewhere,” said Smith of the Student Data Privacy Consortium. “They’re going to try to preserve teaching and learning, as they should. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Caution: This story contains descriptions of sexual assault.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For many years, I thought concerns over children’s exposure to pornography didn’t apply to my daughter. She’s only 9 years old and \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/04/14/1244000143/anxious-generation-kids-autonomy-freedom\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">has little access to the internet. \u003c/a>She won’t see pornography for years, I thought.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But that thinking is naive and sorely mistaken, says social scientist \u003ca href=\"https://www.qut.edu.au/about/our-people/academic-profiles/m.flood\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Michael Flood\u003c/a>, who’s at Queensland University of Technology in Australia. He has been studying how pornography impacts children for two decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When we survey parents, we find that they often really underestimate the extent to which their own children are likely to have seen pornography,” Flood says. “Virtually every child will encounter pornography.”\u003cem> \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That encounter often occurs at a younger age than many parents realize, Flood adds. In\u003ca href=\"https://www.commonsensemedia.org/press-releases/new-report-reveals-truths-about-how-teens-engage-with-pornography\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> one study from 2023\u003c/a>, researchers found that the average age children first view pornography was around age 12. And 15% of children saw it at age 10 or younger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And many parents, including myself, make a second mistake about pornography. They don’t actually understand what these videos portray.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Violent, degrading, misogynistic videos\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>“Parents often think children are looking at softcore pornography, like Playboy centerfolds,” Flood says. But pornography today typically shows something else: “men being cruel to women.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sometimes that’s verbal violence, with hostile and derogatory language. Sometimes that’s violent behaviors, such as strangulation, slapping, or choking,” Flood says. Many times, videos show women enjoying this cruelty, no matter how violent or degrading it is. “That’s not an appropriate form of sexuality education for our 8-year-olds or our 12-year-olds,” he adds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/03/31/nx-s1-5345097/adolescence-netflix-stephen-graham\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">sexist and violent content is “routine,”\u003c/a> Flood says. In a\u003ca href=\"https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20980228/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> major study from the U.K.\u003c/a>, researchers analyzed 50 of the most popular pornographic videos. Around 90% of them showed overt violence or aggression, overwhelmingly directed toward women, the researchers reported in the journal \u003cem>Violence Against Women\u003c/em>.\u003ca href=\"https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32661813/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> In another study, \u003c/a>researchers analyzed more than 4,000 scenes from two major pornographic websites. About 40% of them included one or more acts of physical aggression. “Spanking, gagging, slapping, hair pulling, and choking were the five most common forms of physical aggression,” the researchers reported in the \u003cem>Archives of Sexual Behavior.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scientists are beginning to understand how early exposure to this content can impact children’s health and development, says social scientist \u003ca href=\"https://familylife.byu.edu/directory/brian-willoughby\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Brian Willoughby\u003c/a> at Brigham Young University. For instance, it can interfere with children’s learning about consent and the importance of respect in relationships.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The gender dynamics shown in these videos sets up really unhealthy expectations when it comes to intimacy and relationships,” Willoughby says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Studies also find that early exposure increases the risk of developing problematic use of pornography later in life. For young children explicit content can be quite upsetting, shocking, and jarring. “Their understanding of sex, in general, is very limited,” Willoughby says. So they have a hard time understanding what they’re seeing or handling the emotions and physiological responses it triggers in their brains and bodies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For some children, seeing explicit content can even be traumatic, says \u003ca href=\"https://www.meganmaas.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Megan Maas \u003c/a>at Michigan State University. In one of Maas’s studies, a man described what happened when he Googled the word “blowjob” in the sixth grade. “He ended up seeing a genre of pornography, called facial abuse, which shows women gagging on penises,” Maas explains. “The women are often crying, with mascara running down their faces.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The videos triggered a visceral reaction inside of him that made him want to throw up. “Then he just shut off sexually,” Maas says, “The whole experience freaked him out and really changed him.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>What parents can do\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In the past two years, 21 states have \u003ca href=\"https://avpassociation.com/4271-2/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">passed laws\u003c/a> requiring pornographic sites to verify a user’s age. But every scientist interviewed for this story says it’s imperative for parents to implement protections inside your home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here are three measures to take.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Block content with your router.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the most powerful tools for protecting children against pornography is already sitting inside your home: your router.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As a parent, your router is the most important and underappreciated digital device in your home,” says Chris McKenna. He’s the founder and CEO of the company\u003ca href=\"https://www.protectyoungeyes.com/about\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> Protect Young Eyes,\u003c/a> which, over the past decade, has helped schools and churches create \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/08/02/nx-s1-5057818/kids-online-safety-act-cyberbullying-children-internet-social-media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">safer digital spaces.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Your router acts as a doorway through which the internet enters your home via WiFi. You can, in a way, place a bouncer at the door to your WiFi. You can block any website you want from going through that door and reaching devices that use WiFi. To do that you can:\u003c/p>\n\u003col>\n\u003cli>Directly login to your router through a browser and program it \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnet.com/home/internet/how-to-set-up-and-use-your-wifi-routers-parental-controls/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">to block\u003c/a> explicit websites. Some routers include parental controls; some don’t.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Buy a device that connects to your router and filters out unwanted content, such as \u003ca href=\"https://www.bark.us/learn/bark-home/?utm_source=protect-young-eyes&utm_medium=pye-blog&utm_campaign=2021-router-testing-write-up\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bark at Home\u003c/a> or \u003ca href=\"https://buy.aura.com/parental-controls-4-rdj?utm_source=circle&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=circle-homepage&utm_id=circle-homepage&utm_gateway=parental-controls\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Aura\u003c/a>.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ol>\n\u003cp>OR\u003c/p>\n\u003col>\n\u003cli>Buy a router that’s designed specifically to block pornographic content, such as \u003ca href=\"https://gryphonconnect.com/?sca_ref=2923021.oNhQ4TE7HR#erid12211019\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gryphon\u003c/a>.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ol>\n\u003cp>McKenna and his team have\u003ca href=\"https://www.protectyoungeyes.com/devices/the-ultimate-guide-to-understanding-routers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> tested these options\u003c/a> and found that the third one is the easiest and most effective. But it’s expensive. A new router can cost up to $300.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This router allows you to turn off the internet completely at certain times of day or on certain devices with a phone app,” he explains. “So I could be in Switzerland, and control the whole network in my house.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Add filters to cellular devices, then monitor, too\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Controlling your router clearly won’t stop \u003cem>all\u003c/em> explicit content from entering your home. First and foremost, it won’t stop content on devices that use cellular or mobile data, such as smartphones and tablets that receive cellular data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This ubiquitous access to explicit content on smartphones is a major reason why many psychologists and pediatricians recommend\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/07/12/1187130983/smartphone-tween-safe-alternatives\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> waiting until eighth grade or even later \u003c/a>before giving a child a smartphone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another big problem is that explicit content isn’t confined to pornographic websites. Repeated investigations show that it often appears on \u003ca href=\"https://www.wsj.com/tech/instagram-recommends-sexual-videos-to-accounts-for-13-year-olds-tests-show-b6123c65\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">social media platforms\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://bhr.stern.nyu.edu/quick-take/a-new-report-alleges-that-roblox-remains-an-x-rated-pedophile-hellscape-and-what-this-says-about-the-need-for-regulation/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">video games\u003c/a> aimed directly at teenagers and younger children.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, as BYU’s Brian Willoughby points out, it won’t prevent children from seeing pornography at a friend’s or relative’s homes, or even at school on other children’s phones. \u003cstrong>“\u003c/strong>The vast majority of young kids access pornography for the first time through their friends,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Willoughby and other scientists recommend using all filters and parental controls that come with devices and apps. But, he emphasizes, parents need to know that these controls don’t work well. “They’re just very easy to get around,” he says. “I think too many parents turn on these filters and walk away. That’s just simply not good enough.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Willoughby recommends that parents frequently monitor children’s activities on apps, games and social media. That doesn’t mean being with the child every time they use their phone, but it does mean having access to their accounts and frequently looking at their content. “See who they’re talking to and what they’re sharing,” he says. “That’s just as important, if not more, than controlling your router, I think.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Kids will put up a lot of fuss about this monitoring, and talk about how ‘you’re the only parent that does it,’ ” Willoughby says. “What I always tell my kids is, ‘I just love you more than those parents.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Teach children what to do when they encounter upsetting content\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Finally, every child should be aware that they might stumble upon shocking, scary or upsetting photos and videos on the internet, McKenna says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, teach children what to do when they encounter this content. “At our organization, we teach children to, ‘put it down and tell someone,’ ” he says. Then give the child a list of people who they can tell, including the parent, a grandparent or older sibling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then he recommends practicing that action.\u003cstrong> “\u003c/strong>Have your kid sit at the kitchen counter with their device, and say, ‘listen, I want you to pretend you’ve seen something that makes you uncomfortable. I’m going to go to the bedroom. I want you to close the Chromebook, bring it upstairs, and say to me out loud, ‘Mom, I saw something that made me uncomfortable and I want to talk about it.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That reenactment gives you a chance to practice another critical skill. “Not freaking out,” McKenna says. If you freak out, the child could be reluctant to come to you again in the future, he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, reassure the child that they’re not in trouble, they’re safe, and that you love them the same, he says. You could say: “There’s nothing you could click on or look at that would ever change the way I feel about you, honey. You are still my amazing child.\u003cem>“\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Edited by Jane Greenhalgh\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"npr-transcript\">\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Transcript:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>MARY LOUISE KELLY, HOST:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, kids have access to an unprecedented amount of pornography online. Their exposure to explicit content has risen dramatically, and we are not just talking teenagers. Some younger kids are being exposed, as well, to content that’s often violent and degrading. Michaeleen Doucleff reports. And a caution, this story includes a description of sexual violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>MICHAELEEN DOUCLEFF: For a long time, I thought concerns over children’s exposure to pornography didn’t apply to me. My child is only 9 years old, and she has had little access to the internet. But Michael Flood says that thinking is naive and mistaken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>MICHAEL FLOOD: We find that parents often really underestimate the extent to which their own children are likely to have seen pornography.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DOUCLEFF: Flood is a social scientist at Queensland University of Technology in Australia. He’s an internationally recognized researcher on pornography. He says virtually all children will see porn, either accidentally or intentionally. On average, they first encounter it around age 12, and about 15% see it at age 10 or younger. Flood says, many parents are also mistaken about the content of modern pornography.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLOOD: Often, we think of kind of softcore pornography, kind of, you know, Playboy centerfolds, that kind of thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DOUCLEFF: But pornography today typically shows something else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLOOD: Often shows men being cruel or damaging towards women, and sometimes that’s verbal violence, using hostile and derogatory language. Sometimes, that’s violent behaviors, such as strangulation, such as slapping.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DOUCLEFF: One study from the University of Arkansas found that nearly 90% of popular videos show overt violence or aggression primarily toward women.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>FLOOD: That’s not an appropriate form of sexuality education for our 8-year-olds or our 12-year-olds and so PM.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DOUCLEFF: Studies have found that exposure to pornography can interfere with children learning about consent. And for younger kids, the videos can be quite upsetting or traumatic, which is why some states are starting to require pornographic sites to check users’ ages. Brian Willoughby is a social scientist at Brigham Young University.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>BRIAN WILLOUGHBY: It is very important that we provide some very clear gatekeepers that try to prevent some of that exposure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DOUCLEFF: And there’s one very important gatekeeper already in your home. That’s your router.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CHRIS MCKENNA: Your router, as a parent, is the most important and underappreciated digital device in your home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DOUCLEFF: That’s Chris McKenna. He’s the founder of Protect Young Eyes, a company that helps families, schools, and churches create safer digital spaces. He says it starts by gaining control of your router.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>MCKENNA: That is the door through which internet traffic comes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DOUCLEFF: And you can block any website you want from going through that door and reaching devices that use Wi-Fi. It’s like putting a bouncer at the door to your internet. In fact, McKenna says you can buy a special router designed specifically to block pornographic content.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>MCKENNA: It’s the No. 1 tool that prevents early childhood exposure to pornography.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DOUCLEFF: Now, this won’t stop content on devices that use cellular data, like smartphones. And that’s how many kids first encounter pornography, whether it’s at a friend’s house or even while at school. There are filters and controls for phones, but they’re easy to get around, which McKenna says is a big reason not to give a child a smartphone too early.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>MCKENNA: Delay is the way. That’s our mindset because we’ve rushed into technologies that our children were not ready for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DOUCLEFF: The most important recommendation, McKenna says, is teach your kids what to do when they stumble upon any content that makes them feel afraid, shocked or simply uncomfortable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>MCKENNA: Put it down and tell someone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DOUCLEFF: And be sure they know that no matter what they’ve seen, you won’t be angry but glad they came to you for guidance. For NPR News, I’m Michaeleen Doucleff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And many parents, including myself, make a second mistake about pornography. They don’t actually understand what these videos portray.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Violent, degrading, misogynistic videos\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>“Parents often think children are looking at softcore pornography, like Playboy centerfolds,” Flood says. But pornography today typically shows something else: “men being cruel to women.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sometimes that’s verbal violence, with hostile and derogatory language. Sometimes that’s violent behaviors, such as strangulation, slapping, or choking,” Flood says. Many times, videos show women enjoying this cruelty, no matter how violent or degrading it is. “That’s not an appropriate form of sexuality education for our 8-year-olds or our 12-year-olds,” he adds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/03/31/nx-s1-5345097/adolescence-netflix-stephen-graham\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">sexist and violent content is “routine,”\u003c/a> Flood says. In a\u003ca href=\"https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20980228/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> major study from the U.K.\u003c/a>, researchers analyzed 50 of the most popular pornographic videos. Around 90% of them showed overt violence or aggression, overwhelmingly directed toward women, the researchers reported in the journal \u003cem>Violence Against Women\u003c/em>.\u003ca href=\"https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32661813/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> In another study, \u003c/a>researchers analyzed more than 4,000 scenes from two major pornographic websites. About 40% of them included one or more acts of physical aggression. “Spanking, gagging, slapping, hair pulling, and choking were the five most common forms of physical aggression,” the researchers reported in the \u003cem>Archives of Sexual Behavior.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scientists are beginning to understand how early exposure to this content can impact children’s health and development, says social scientist \u003ca href=\"https://familylife.byu.edu/directory/brian-willoughby\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Brian Willoughby\u003c/a> at Brigham Young University. For instance, it can interfere with children’s learning about consent and the importance of respect in relationships.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The gender dynamics shown in these videos sets up really unhealthy expectations when it comes to intimacy and relationships,” Willoughby says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Studies also find that early exposure increases the risk of developing problematic use of pornography later in life. For young children explicit content can be quite upsetting, shocking, and jarring. “Their understanding of sex, in general, is very limited,” Willoughby says. So they have a hard time understanding what they’re seeing or handling the emotions and physiological responses it triggers in their brains and bodies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For some children, seeing explicit content can even be traumatic, says \u003ca href=\"https://www.meganmaas.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Megan Maas \u003c/a>at Michigan State University. In one of Maas’s studies, a man described what happened when he Googled the word “blowjob” in the sixth grade. “He ended up seeing a genre of pornography, called facial abuse, which shows women gagging on penises,” Maas explains. “The women are often crying, with mascara running down their faces.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The videos triggered a visceral reaction inside of him that made him want to throw up. “Then he just shut off sexually,” Maas says, “The whole experience freaked him out and really changed him.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>What parents can do\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>In the past two years, 21 states have \u003ca href=\"https://avpassociation.com/4271-2/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">passed laws\u003c/a> requiring pornographic sites to verify a user’s age. But every scientist interviewed for this story says it’s imperative for parents to implement protections inside your home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here are three measures to take.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Block content with your router.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the most powerful tools for protecting children against pornography is already sitting inside your home: your router.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As a parent, your router is the most important and underappreciated digital device in your home,” says Chris McKenna. He’s the founder and CEO of the company\u003ca href=\"https://www.protectyoungeyes.com/about\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> Protect Young Eyes,\u003c/a> which, over the past decade, has helped schools and churches create \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/08/02/nx-s1-5057818/kids-online-safety-act-cyberbullying-children-internet-social-media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">safer digital spaces.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Your router acts as a doorway through which the internet enters your home via WiFi. You can, in a way, place a bouncer at the door to your WiFi. You can block any website you want from going through that door and reaching devices that use WiFi. To do that you can:\u003c/p>\n\u003col>\n\u003cli>Directly login to your router through a browser and program it \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnet.com/home/internet/how-to-set-up-and-use-your-wifi-routers-parental-controls/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">to block\u003c/a> explicit websites. Some routers include parental controls; some don’t.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Buy a device that connects to your router and filters out unwanted content, such as \u003ca href=\"https://www.bark.us/learn/bark-home/?utm_source=protect-young-eyes&utm_medium=pye-blog&utm_campaign=2021-router-testing-write-up\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bark at Home\u003c/a> or \u003ca href=\"https://buy.aura.com/parental-controls-4-rdj?utm_source=circle&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=circle-homepage&utm_id=circle-homepage&utm_gateway=parental-controls\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Aura\u003c/a>.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ol>\n\u003cp>OR\u003c/p>\n\u003col>\n\u003cli>Buy a router that’s designed specifically to block pornographic content, such as \u003ca href=\"https://gryphonconnect.com/?sca_ref=2923021.oNhQ4TE7HR#erid12211019\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gryphon\u003c/a>.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ol>\n\u003cp>McKenna and his team have\u003ca href=\"https://www.protectyoungeyes.com/devices/the-ultimate-guide-to-understanding-routers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> tested these options\u003c/a> and found that the third one is the easiest and most effective. But it’s expensive. A new router can cost up to $300.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This router allows you to turn off the internet completely at certain times of day or on certain devices with a phone app,” he explains. “So I could be in Switzerland, and control the whole network in my house.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Add filters to cellular devices, then monitor, too\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Controlling your router clearly won’t stop \u003cem>all\u003c/em> explicit content from entering your home. First and foremost, it won’t stop content on devices that use cellular or mobile data, such as smartphones and tablets that receive cellular data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This ubiquitous access to explicit content on smartphones is a major reason why many psychologists and pediatricians recommend\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/07/12/1187130983/smartphone-tween-safe-alternatives\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> waiting until eighth grade or even later \u003c/a>before giving a child a smartphone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another big problem is that explicit content isn’t confined to pornographic websites. Repeated investigations show that it often appears on \u003ca href=\"https://www.wsj.com/tech/instagram-recommends-sexual-videos-to-accounts-for-13-year-olds-tests-show-b6123c65\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">social media platforms\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://bhr.stern.nyu.edu/quick-take/a-new-report-alleges-that-roblox-remains-an-x-rated-pedophile-hellscape-and-what-this-says-about-the-need-for-regulation/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">video games\u003c/a> aimed directly at teenagers and younger children.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And, as BYU’s Brian Willoughby points out, it won’t prevent children from seeing pornography at a friend’s or relative’s homes, or even at school on other children’s phones. \u003cstrong>“\u003c/strong>The vast majority of young kids access pornography for the first time through their friends,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So Willoughby and other scientists recommend using all filters and parental controls that come with devices and apps. But, he emphasizes, parents need to know that these controls don’t work well. “They’re just very easy to get around,” he says. “I think too many parents turn on these filters and walk away. That’s just simply not good enough.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Willoughby recommends that parents frequently monitor children’s activities on apps, games and social media. That doesn’t mean being with the child every time they use their phone, but it does mean having access to their accounts and frequently looking at their content. “See who they’re talking to and what they’re sharing,” he says. “That’s just as important, if not more, than controlling your router, I think.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Kids will put up a lot of fuss about this monitoring, and talk about how ‘you’re the only parent that does it,’ ” Willoughby says. “What I always tell my kids is, ‘I just love you more than those parents.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Teach children what to do when they encounter upsetting content\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Finally, every child should be aware that they might stumble upon shocking, scary or upsetting photos and videos on the internet, McKenna says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, teach children what to do when they encounter this content. “At our organization, we teach children to, ‘put it down and tell someone,’ ” he says. Then give the child a list of people who they can tell, including the parent, a grandparent or older sibling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then he recommends practicing that action.\u003cstrong> “\u003c/strong>Have your kid sit at the kitchen counter with their device, and say, ‘listen, I want you to pretend you’ve seen something that makes you uncomfortable. I’m going to go to the bedroom. I want you to close the Chromebook, bring it upstairs, and say to me out loud, ‘Mom, I saw something that made me uncomfortable and I want to talk about it.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That reenactment gives you a chance to practice another critical skill. “Not freaking out,” McKenna says. If you freak out, the child could be reluctant to come to you again in the future, he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, reassure the child that they’re not in trouble, they’re safe, and that you love them the same, he says. You could say: “There’s nothing you could click on or look at that would ever change the way I feel about you, honey. You are still my amazing child.\u003cem>“\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Here’s how I describe what a Chromebook is to a group of people who don’t know what a Chromebook is,” said middle school teacher and comedian Jonathan Williams in \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@bored_teachers/video/7289166867279744298\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">a comedy set\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. “It’s like a laptop, but broken.” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">His joke and others about broken Chromebooks are \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@ballardco/video/7265437431233514794\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">echoed by\u003c/span>\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@thesidesofteaching/video/7228382553135369518\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">educators\u003c/span>\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@treybrosemer/video/7179318729329610030\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">and students\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> likely because Chromebooks are omnipresent at schools. In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.edweek.org/technology/what-the-massive-shift-to-1-to-1-computing-means-for-schools-in-charts/2022/05\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">many schools adopted a “one-to-one” model\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, providing each student with a Chromebook. However, maintaining these devices has proven challenging.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“The kids are breaking them because, well, kids are kids,” said Allison Bacon, a tech coordinator at Ossining School District in New York. Chromebook repairs can take time due to limited staff. Sometimes, the devices must be sent out for repairs, further delaying their return.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“We asked our tech guys, the network specialists, if they could come in and just teach the kids some of the basic things [about Chromebooks],” said Bacon when she presented at the \u003ca href=\"https://conference.iste.org/2024/registration/closed.php\">International Society for Technology in Education Conference\u003c/a>. For example, students may think their Chromebook is broken when really the battery is dead and it won’t hold a charge, according to Bacon. The network specialists showed students that there was a simple way to go into the settings and check if that was the issue. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The students felt empowered, Bacon said. “They were like, ‘What else can you show us?’” This \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/55327/how-hands-on-projects-can-deepen-math-learning-for-teens\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">hands-on learning approach\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> led to the creation of Ossining Middle School’s “Genius Bar,” inspired by Apple’s tech support model. Students met in the library during lunch to fix computers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://pblworks.org/sites/default/files/2019-01/FreeBIE_Research_Summary.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">According to research\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62349/why-schoolyards-are-a-critical-space-for-teaching-about-and-fighting-extreme-heat-and-climate-change\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">project-based learning\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> can improve students’ retention and engagement. Additionally, project-based learning is well-suited to support \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.battelleforkids.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/P21_Framework_Brief.pdf\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">21st century skills, including critical thinking and self direction\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. “One of the most important 21st-century skills is learning to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/52070/to-raise-confident-independent-kids-some-parents-are-trying-to-let-grow\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">figure things out independently\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">,” Bacon emphasized. The Genius Bar at Ossining Middle School aligned with students’ interests while equipping them with \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/62734/when-parents-only-focus-on-college-admissions-essential-skills-can-slip-through-the-cracks\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">relevant skills\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> to navigate and adapt to the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/61098/worried-about-chatgpt-and-cheating-here-are-4-things-teachers-should-know\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ever-changing technological landscape\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Encouraging agency and independent learning\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The learning didn’t stop at computer batteries, according to Bacon. Learning how to repair something they use every day with their own hands piqued students’ interest. Bacon and network specialists brought a few broken Chromebooks to one of the lunchtime training sessions and took them apart. “[The network specialist] actually showed every piece, every wire, what it is, what it does and how to unclip it,” Bacon said. The kids were able to take all of these broken devices and harvest the different parts and use them to repair other devices.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Genius Bar’s success evolved from an informal lunchtime group to an after-school club where students could learn more about and fix Chromebooks. Students recognized how to make hardware repairs for their peers. Students were learning to be independent, Bacon said. “Rather than it going upstairs to have somebody do it, they can do it right there in the library,” Bacon added. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Last year, Bacon got a grant to get a 3D printer and Genius Bar students said that they’d meet after school to put it together. “I was like ‘They’re 11 and 12 [years old] and this is like $2000 worth of stuff,”’ said Bacon. “But the reality is that people will rise to the bar that is given to them.” With help from one of the technology instructors, the students put together their 3D printer. Since then, they have also assembled microphones for podcasting and a mixing board. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Engaging all students, not just the high achieving ones\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Students, regardless of academic standing, found value in the Genius Bar program, including those needing additional learning support and \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/57787/tools-that-help-english-language-learners-online-and-in-person\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">English language learners\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. 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Bacon and network specialists brought a few broken Chromebooks to one of the lunchtime training sessions and took them apart. “[The network specialist] actually showed every piece, every wire, what it is, what it does and how to unclip it,” Bacon said. The kids were able to take all of these broken devices and harvest the different parts and use them to repair other devices.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Genius Bar’s success evolved from an informal lunchtime group to an after-school club where students could learn more about and fix Chromebooks. Students recognized how to make hardware repairs for their peers. Students were learning to be independent, Bacon said. “Rather than it going upstairs to have somebody do it, they can do it right there in the library,” Bacon added. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Last year, Bacon got a grant to get a 3D printer and Genius Bar students said that they’d meet after school to put it together. “I was like ‘They’re 11 and 12 [years old] and this is like $2000 worth of stuff,”’ said Bacon. “But the reality is that people will rise to the bar that is given to them.” With help from one of the technology instructors, the students put together their 3D printer. Since then, they have also assembled microphones for podcasting and a mixing board. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cb>Engaging all students, not just the high achieving ones\u003c/b>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Students, regardless of academic standing, found value in the Genius Bar program, including those needing additional learning support and \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/57787/tools-that-help-english-language-learners-online-and-in-person\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">English language learners\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Bacon attributes this to the fact that technology doesn’t only impact high achieving students. “We’ve all been using technology,” she said.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Some students learned to log into Chromebooks for the first time, while others eagerly disassembled computers.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> “[Hardware repair] is not a skill that we necessarily teach in school every day,” Bacon pointed out. “Unfortunately, kids have these wonderful skills that \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/60978/new-climate-legislation-could-create-9-million-jobs-will-students-be-ready-to-fill-them\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">don’t always align academically\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> with the things we’re doing. 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Bacon helped the students present their proposal to the Board of Education, leading to the launch of the Ossining High School Genius Bar class for the 2023-24 school year.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“We want them to be able to run the help desk — a student help desk,” said Oumar Sarr, who teaches the high school Genius Bar class. “We are also working in partnership with the tech department to get the students to learn the basics of troubleshooting computers, fixing some little problems that students and some teachers even have with their technology devices.” The class also includes a Google Level 1 certification that teaches students proficiency in Google Classroom tools like Gmail, Drive, and Calendar.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sarr’s goal is to encourage students to \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/58624/how-parents-and-educators-can-support-healthy-teen-use-of-social-media\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">think creatively about technology\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, not just as consumers but as critical thinkers who can shape it. “We started talking about \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/64014/teens-are-looking-to-ai-for-answers-about-their-personal-lives-not-just-homework-help\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AI technology and the impact it can have on students\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and our communities,” Sarr explained. “They are discovering that technology, like everything else, needs to be channeled. 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"content": "\u003cp>Last year, Roosevelt Middle School in San Francisco, California introduced a campus-wide cellphone and smartphone ban. That meant devices are “off and away at all times while you’re on campus,” said Emily Leicham, Roosevelt Middle School’s principal. Among those in favor of the policy was Marta Lindsey, whose child started sixth grade at Roosevelt in fall 2024. She said that the phone policy was the reason her family chose the school as their first pick in the district’s lottery system. “I just feel super lucky that we got into this school…I don’t even care about anything else about this school except for this policy,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cellphone bans aren’t new to K-12 schools across the nation, but the past year has seen growing momentum for district and statewide bans. In a Pew Research survey, nearly three quarters of high school teachers and a third of middle school teachers said that \u003ca href=\"https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/06/12/72-percent-of-us-high-school-teachers-say-cellphone-distraction-is-a-major-problem-in-the-classroom/\">cellphones are a major distraction in the classroom\u003c/a>. In media appearances related to his \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/04/14/1244000143/anxious-generation-kids-autonomy-freedom\">bestselling book, \u003cem>Anxious Generation\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, social psychologist Jonathan Haidt has called for \u003ca href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/ban-smartphones-phone-free-schools-social-media/674304/\">phone-free schools\u003c/a>, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/a-look-at-state-efforts-to-ban-cellphones-in-schools-and-implications-for-youth-mental-health/\">seven states have banned or restricted cellphone use\u003c/a> in schools for the 2024-25 school year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, not everyone is enthusiastic about cellphone and electronics bans in middle schools. \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/RCulatta\">Richard Culatta\u003c/a>, CEO of the International Society for Technology in Education (ISTE), and \u003ca href=\"https://www.tannerhiggin.com/\">Tanner Higgin\u003c/a>, a senior educational technology researcher at WestEd, support a more nuanced approach to technology use in schools. Instead of a permanent ban on cellphones, Culatta and Higgin suggested that schools teach digital citizenship and develop technology policies that foster healthy electronic use among students.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Implementing a cellphone ban\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At Roosevelt Middle School, the policy worked immediately, according to Leicham. She said she confiscated 40 to 50 phones, airpods and smartwatches on the first day of the cellphone ban in 2023. The second day, she only confiscated two devices. The new system and school policy took years to develop, with parents initiating the conversation during Leicham’s first year as principal in the 2021-22 school year. While parents drove a lot of the interest in a cellphone free school campus, Leicham made sure to include students and teachers in the conversation. Students were given the opportunity to discuss the potential of a cellphone policy during their advisory periods, and teachers had ongoing conversations during staff meetings about their concerns and anticipated challenges, said Leicham.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This year, Roosevelt expanded the policy to cover all electronics, including Google Chromebooks when not directly in use in a classroom. Additionally, the policy allows no room for warnings. Once a student’s electronic is spotted by a teacher or administrator, it is placed in the front office for the day. Students collect confiscated phones after school. This eliminates power struggles between teachers and students, according to Leicham.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Math teacher Melanie Buntichai said that it was a challenge for individual teachers to enforce their own classroom cellphone policies before the ban. If she engaged with a student who was using their phone inappropriately in class it could take up to ten minutes away from class time. Since Roosevelt implemented a schoolwide policy, “the students don’t fight back as much,” and interruptions became less time consuming, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leicham said students interact with each other more during lunchtime now. “It’s nice to see them, you know, being kids; hanging out with each other,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Roosevelt requires \u003ca href=\"https://www.commonsense.org/education/digital-citizenship\">Common Sense Media’s digital citizenship\u003c/a> lessons for students during advisory classes. According to Leicham, for the 2024-25 school year, Roosevelt aims to have students complete four lessons. The school also provides Common Sense Media resources for parents that covers appropriate and responsible tech use.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Student and parent responses\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>While parents have been on board with the electronics policy at Roosevelt, students have been harder to win over. Leicham said that transparency helps when explaining to students why smartphones and other devices don’t belong on campus. “Middle school is the time to build relationships with others,” and middle schoolers “need less screen time and more interaction with others,” Leicham said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Psychologist Jacqueline Nesi thinks there is some truth to this. But “it’s not always the case that when students are using screens in general, that they are not socializing at all,” said Nesi, who studies the effects of technology on children. Increased focus on social interactions is a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/59687/middle-schoolers-are-social-what-opportunity-does-that-create-for-learning\">hallmark of early adolescent development\u003c/a>, according to Nesi. However, when it comes to fitting in, smartphones can be both a source of disconnection and connection for middle schoolers. On one hand, a student can feel left out if they don’t have access to the same technology that their peers do. On the other hand, a student who feels “marginalized in their offline community” might find belonging through technology “even if it’s in an online environment,” said Nesi.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like it did for Lindsey, Roosevelt’s cellphone policy attracted Eiko Sugano to the school. She also hoped to enroll her child there for sixth grade, but he ended up at another school further down on their lottery list. For Sugano, a full cellphone and electronics ban is what initially drew her to Roosevelt. “It was definitely one of my top factors,” she said. Sugano’s son does not have a cellphone. She prefers that he engages in-person rather than on a device, and learns to navigate everyday challenges, like missing a bus, without the help of a smartphone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kids need “increasing independence as they age [and] there’s value in giving them opportunities to solve problems,” said Nesi. There is no one-size-fits-all approach to parenting decisions about which devices to allow adolescents to use and when, she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lindsey held an on-campus and online community conversation for families about cellphone and electronics policies at her child’s elementary school last year. “Parents are \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/63497/parents-make-mistakes-when-setting-screen-time-rules-for-their-kids-thats-ok\">feeling so alone in this\u003c/a>,” she said. Coming together as a school community provided a much needed space for “information sharing between parents about how they’re navigating things or what they’re worried about,” she continued.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although Lindsey is hopeful for the future of students’ cellphone use both in school and outside of school, she wants these conversations and electronics to happen at a more rapid pace because kids are struggling right now. “I can’t even think of a bigger issue right now that parents are having to navigate,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>No to outright bans, yes to guided practice\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Bans on cellphones and electronic devices are taking off beyond Roosevelt. Some large school districts like Los Angeles Unified School District and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/64133/new-york-city-is-moving-to-ban-phones-from-school-will-it-work\">New York City Public Schools\u003c/a> are looking to or have already implemented \u003ca href=\"https://www.k12dive.com/news/safety-concerns-school-cell-phone-bans-mental-health/726668/#:~:text=According%20to%20KFF%2C%20seven%20states,restrict%20both%20use%20and%20possession\">district-wide cellphone bans\u003c/a>. But Culatta, the ISTE CEO, thinks these bans are too hasty. He said banning phones removes students’ opportunities to learn appropriate and effective use of technology. While a ban might feel like a satisfying solution, “it doesn’t actually prepare kids to be successful down the road,” he said. If students aren’t learning digital etiquette in school, “where will they ever learn it?” Culatta asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, Culatta advocates for school electronics policies that consult students and “create healthy conditions” for technology use. Writing these expectations in plain and positive language is important. Instead of telling students all the things they can’t do, Culatta suggested that schools clearly lay out norms that students \u003cem>can\u003c/em> follow. At the bottom of these technology guidelines, there should also be clear guidance on what the expectations are when students have broken the code of conduct, said Culatta. The policy should be age-specific, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Culatta, having technology guidelines in place of a ban opens the opportunity for learning moments to remind students about responsible and appropriate technology use. No ban doesn’t mean no consequences, said Culatta. He also said that a temporary ban can help to jumpstart a more robust and nuanced technology policy. “It is totally appropriate to pause and say ‘timeout for a second, we need all the devices to go away for a minute while we talk about what the norms are, while we talk about what this looks like’ and then start to bring them back,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Higgin, the WestEd researcher, believes that educators can incorporate conversations about technology use without necessarily bringing those technologies into the classroom. “Encourage students to think about their habits and uses of technology [and] how those uses align with their values and goals,” he said. To help with those conversations, he pointed teachers toward free resources provided by \u003ca href=\"https://www.commonsense.org/education/back-to-school\">Common Sense Media\u003c/a> – where he used to work – and their partner \u003ca href=\"https://digitalthriving.gse.harvard.edu/\">The Center For Digital Thriving at Harvard\u003c/a>, as well as \u003ca href=\"https://iste.org/digital-citizenship\">ISTE’s digital citizenship curriculum\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Last year, Roosevelt Middle School in San Francisco, California introduced a campus-wide cellphone and smartphone ban. That meant devices are “off and away at all times while you’re on campus,” said Emily Leicham, Roosevelt Middle School’s principal. Among those in favor of the policy was Marta Lindsey, whose child started sixth grade at Roosevelt in fall 2024. She said that the phone policy was the reason her family chose the school as their first pick in the district’s lottery system. “I just feel super lucky that we got into this school…I don’t even care about anything else about this school except for this policy,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cellphone bans aren’t new to K-12 schools across the nation, but the past year has seen growing momentum for district and statewide bans. In a Pew Research survey, nearly three quarters of high school teachers and a third of middle school teachers said that \u003ca href=\"https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/06/12/72-percent-of-us-high-school-teachers-say-cellphone-distraction-is-a-major-problem-in-the-classroom/\">cellphones are a major distraction in the classroom\u003c/a>. In media appearances related to his \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/04/14/1244000143/anxious-generation-kids-autonomy-freedom\">bestselling book, \u003cem>Anxious Generation\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, social psychologist Jonathan Haidt has called for \u003ca href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/ban-smartphones-phone-free-schools-social-media/674304/\">phone-free schools\u003c/a>, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/a-look-at-state-efforts-to-ban-cellphones-in-schools-and-implications-for-youth-mental-health/\">seven states have banned or restricted cellphone use\u003c/a> in schools for the 2024-25 school year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, not everyone is enthusiastic about cellphone and electronics bans in middle schools. \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/RCulatta\">Richard Culatta\u003c/a>, CEO of the International Society for Technology in Education (ISTE), and \u003ca href=\"https://www.tannerhiggin.com/\">Tanner Higgin\u003c/a>, a senior educational technology researcher at WestEd, support a more nuanced approach to technology use in schools. Instead of a permanent ban on cellphones, Culatta and Higgin suggested that schools teach digital citizenship and develop technology policies that foster healthy electronic use among students.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Implementing a cellphone ban\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At Roosevelt Middle School, the policy worked immediately, according to Leicham. She said she confiscated 40 to 50 phones, airpods and smartwatches on the first day of the cellphone ban in 2023. The second day, she only confiscated two devices. The new system and school policy took years to develop, with parents initiating the conversation during Leicham’s first year as principal in the 2021-22 school year. While parents drove a lot of the interest in a cellphone free school campus, Leicham made sure to include students and teachers in the conversation. Students were given the opportunity to discuss the potential of a cellphone policy during their advisory periods, and teachers had ongoing conversations during staff meetings about their concerns and anticipated challenges, said Leicham.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This year, Roosevelt expanded the policy to cover all electronics, including Google Chromebooks when not directly in use in a classroom. Additionally, the policy allows no room for warnings. Once a student’s electronic is spotted by a teacher or administrator, it is placed in the front office for the day. Students collect confiscated phones after school. This eliminates power struggles between teachers and students, according to Leicham.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Math teacher Melanie Buntichai said that it was a challenge for individual teachers to enforce their own classroom cellphone policies before the ban. If she engaged with a student who was using their phone inappropriately in class it could take up to ten minutes away from class time. Since Roosevelt implemented a schoolwide policy, “the students don’t fight back as much,” and interruptions became less time consuming, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leicham said students interact with each other more during lunchtime now. “It’s nice to see them, you know, being kids; hanging out with each other,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Roosevelt requires \u003ca href=\"https://www.commonsense.org/education/digital-citizenship\">Common Sense Media’s digital citizenship\u003c/a> lessons for students during advisory classes. According to Leicham, for the 2024-25 school year, Roosevelt aims to have students complete four lessons. The school also provides Common Sense Media resources for parents that covers appropriate and responsible tech use.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Student and parent responses\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>While parents have been on board with the electronics policy at Roosevelt, students have been harder to win over. Leicham said that transparency helps when explaining to students why smartphones and other devices don’t belong on campus. “Middle school is the time to build relationships with others,” and middle schoolers “need less screen time and more interaction with others,” Leicham said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Psychologist Jacqueline Nesi thinks there is some truth to this. But “it’s not always the case that when students are using screens in general, that they are not socializing at all,” said Nesi, who studies the effects of technology on children. Increased focus on social interactions is a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/59687/middle-schoolers-are-social-what-opportunity-does-that-create-for-learning\">hallmark of early adolescent development\u003c/a>, according to Nesi. However, when it comes to fitting in, smartphones can be both a source of disconnection and connection for middle schoolers. On one hand, a student can feel left out if they don’t have access to the same technology that their peers do. On the other hand, a student who feels “marginalized in their offline community” might find belonging through technology “even if it’s in an online environment,” said Nesi.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like it did for Lindsey, Roosevelt’s cellphone policy attracted Eiko Sugano to the school. She also hoped to enroll her child there for sixth grade, but he ended up at another school further down on their lottery list. For Sugano, a full cellphone and electronics ban is what initially drew her to Roosevelt. “It was definitely one of my top factors,” she said. Sugano’s son does not have a cellphone. She prefers that he engages in-person rather than on a device, and learns to navigate everyday challenges, like missing a bus, without the help of a smartphone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kids need “increasing independence as they age [and] there’s value in giving them opportunities to solve problems,” said Nesi. There is no one-size-fits-all approach to parenting decisions about which devices to allow adolescents to use and when, she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lindsey held an on-campus and online community conversation for families about cellphone and electronics policies at her child’s elementary school last year. “Parents are \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/63497/parents-make-mistakes-when-setting-screen-time-rules-for-their-kids-thats-ok\">feeling so alone in this\u003c/a>,” she said. Coming together as a school community provided a much needed space for “information sharing between parents about how they’re navigating things or what they’re worried about,” she continued.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although Lindsey is hopeful for the future of students’ cellphone use both in school and outside of school, she wants these conversations and electronics to happen at a more rapid pace because kids are struggling right now. “I can’t even think of a bigger issue right now that parents are having to navigate,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>No to outright bans, yes to guided practice\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Bans on cellphones and electronic devices are taking off beyond Roosevelt. Some large school districts like Los Angeles Unified School District and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/64133/new-york-city-is-moving-to-ban-phones-from-school-will-it-work\">New York City Public Schools\u003c/a> are looking to or have already implemented \u003ca href=\"https://www.k12dive.com/news/safety-concerns-school-cell-phone-bans-mental-health/726668/#:~:text=According%20to%20KFF%2C%20seven%20states,restrict%20both%20use%20and%20possession\">district-wide cellphone bans\u003c/a>. But Culatta, the ISTE CEO, thinks these bans are too hasty. He said banning phones removes students’ opportunities to learn appropriate and effective use of technology. While a ban might feel like a satisfying solution, “it doesn’t actually prepare kids to be successful down the road,” he said. 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