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"innerHTML": "\n\u003cp>(And a heads up that in October, there’ll be \u003ca href=\"https://dot.ca.gov/caltrans-near-me/district-4/d4-news/2026-09-09-us101bayshore-freeway-full-closure\">two more weekend Hwy 101 closures\u003c/a> — this time on the southbound side — between Cesar Chavez Street and 10th Street. These closures will take place Oct. 2-5 and Oct. 16-19.)\u003c/p>\n",
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It’ll be closed again this weekend.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Over a mile of 101 near Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital will be \u003ca href=\"https://dot.ca.gov/caltrans-near-me/district-4/d4-news/2026-08-19-us101-nb-bayshore-freeway-hospital-curve-upcoming-full-closures\">fully closed to all northbound traffic \u003c/a>starting the night of Friday, Sept. 18 and won’t reopen until early morning on Monday, Sept. 21. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>These closures on what’s known as the “Hospital Curve” part of 101 will affect not only drivers trying to drive from the South Bay and Peninsula to the East Bay or North Bay — including people arriving at San Francisco International Airport — but also anyone wanting to travel through the city on this weekend.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260822-zuckerbergsfhospitalfile-00101_TV_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12096569\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260822-zuckerbergsfhospitalfile-00101_TV_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260822-zuckerbergsfhospitalfile-00101_TV_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/260822-zuckerbergsfhospitalfile-00101_TV_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital and Trauma Center is located at 1001 Potrero Avenue in San Francisco on Aug. 22, 2026. (Tâm Vũ for KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003cp>This weekend closure is part of Caltrans’s ongoing work on what the agency calls “the Fab 4”: 101’s Hospital Curve, I-280, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12080206/whats-the-deal-with-i-80-and-sfs-central-freeway-heres-a-brief-history\">Central Freeway\u003c/a> and 19th Avenue. The work is coming on the heels of\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12078991/i80-101-closure-san-francisco-weekend-april-17-18-19-bay-bridge-detour-traffic-alternative-route\"> April’s major Interstate 80 closure \u003c/a>through San Francisco and last month’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12093934/carquinez-bridge-closure-update-weekend-i-80-westbound-alfred-zampa-memorial-bridge-crockett-vallejo-detours-august-21-24\">highway shutdown over the Carquinez Bridge\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>With the upcoming 101 work, “all of those lanes are going to be completely closed to traffic so that major pavement work can happen,” said Lori Shepherd, Caltrans’ Bay Area public information officer. “Basically, they’re putting on a brand new repaving [on] the whole entire road.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jump straight to:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#northbound\">When exactly will 101 through San Francisco be closed?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#detour\">What kind of detour will I have to take?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Warning: Delays and detours ahead\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Shepherd said that drivers should know that “this is going to be a major, major impact,” and that any travelers planning to drive in San Francisco during the weekend closure should expect sizable delays getting through the city — not just around 101, but on surrounding streets and detours.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Shepherd said that the greatest traffic impacts from the closure could be felt around Cesar Chavez and 17th streets, as well as around Potrero Avenue — and also on entrances to I-280.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Caltrans is urging travelers wherever possible to take \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfmta.com/trip-planner\">public \u003c/a>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bart.gov/planner\">transportation \u003c/a>to travel through San Francisco this weekend, instead of using the roads.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>It “really remains the best option to bypass congestion and work zone delays — because there \u003cem>will \u003c/em>be some major delays getting through the city,” warned Shepherd. Delays from the closures could also have a knock-on effect on other routes through the city.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But if you \u003cem>really \u003c/em>have to drive through San Francisco this weekend, what should you know about timings, detours and delays?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Keep reading for what we know about navigating the upcoming 101 closure without having your weekend completely hijacked by traffic.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>(And a heads up that in October, there’ll be \u003ca href=\"https://dot.ca.gov/caltrans-near-me/district-4/d4-news/2026-09-09-us101bayshore-freeway-full-closure\">two more weekend Hwy 101 closures\u003c/a> — this time on the southbound side — between Cesar Chavez Street and 10th Street. These closures will take place Oct. 2-5 and Oct. 16-19.)\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"northbound\">Where will northbound 101 through San Francisco be closed?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>All northbound lanes on 101 between Cesar Chavez Street and 10th Street will be closed to traffic — a 1.2-mile stretch of highway.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Any drivers on northbound 101 approaching this closure will be forced to take the Cesar Chavez Street/Potrero Avenue off-ramp before the closed area.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>All southbound lanes on 101 will remain open during the closures of the northbound lanes.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">When will the northbound 101 closures in San Francisco take place?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Closure starts: 11 p.m. on Friday, Sept. 18\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Closure ends: by 6 a.m. on Monday, Sept. 21\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"detour\">I need to drive north through San Francisco during the closures. What detour should I take?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003ch3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">If you’re already on 101 north through San Francisco\u003c/h3>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Caltrans recommends that \u003ca href=\"https://dot.ca.gov/caltrans-near-me/district-4/d4-news/2026-08-19-us101-nb-bayshore-freeway-hospital-curve-upcoming-full-closures\">motorists use I-280 northbound \u003c/a>to reach downtown areas of the city or the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>You can merge onto I-280 by staying in the right two lanes of 101 around Silver Avenue. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1757\" height=\"2560\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/1-Detour-101-closure-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12096917\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/1-Detour-101-closure-scaled.jpg 1757w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/1-Detour-101-closure-160x233.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/1-Detour-101-closure-1054x1536.jpg 1054w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/1-Detour-101-closure-1406x2048.jpg 1406w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1757px) 100vw, 1757px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Caltrans’ suggested detour for drivers on northbound Highway 101 through San Francisco during the two September weekend closures. (Courtesy of Caltrans)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003cp>If you don’t take the I-280 exit and continue on 101 northbound toward the closure, you’ll be forced to take the last exit before the closed area: the Cesar Chavez Street/Potrero Avenue off-ramp. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>From here, you can take Potrero Avenue north and either connect back onto northbound 101 to the Golden Gate Bridge or to Bryant Street, where you can take the Ninth Street/Bryant on-ramp to I-80 over the Bay Bridge.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">If you want to drive north through the city from SFO, the Peninsula or South Bay\u003c/h3>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Caltrans’ detour map suggests drivers on 101 by SFO merge onto I-380 westbound, and then transfer to northbound 280 into San Francisco. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-image\">\n\u003cfigure class=\"aligncenter size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1913\" height=\"2560\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/2-Detour-101-closure-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12096918\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/2-Detour-101-closure-scaled.jpg 1913w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/2-Detour-101-closure-160x214.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/2-Detour-101-closure-1148x1536.jpg 1148w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/2-Detour-101-closure-1531x2048.jpg 1531w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1913px) 100vw, 1913px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Caltrans’ suggested detour for drivers heading northbound from SFO during the two September weekend closures. (Courtesy of Caltrans)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003c/div>\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Why can’t these 101 closures take place overnight instead?\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Shepherd attributed the length of the multiple closures — first Labor Day weekend, now this weekend — to the sheer scope of the “24-7” repaving work being undertaken on 101 at this time.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“It’s a major, massive project, if you can imagine, repaving the freeway,” she said, and despite the Labor Day weekend, Caltrans has timed these closures “to do it with the least amount of impact on the public,” Shepherd said.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>According to the traffic data Caltrans consulted, “holiday weekends actually are [a] lower volume of traffic,” she said. “So we knew that this would be a good weekend to come in and get the work done as quickly as possible.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The concrete used in this kind of repaving work also needs the kind of dry conditions that September brings. “There’s a lot of emphasis on getting work done — as much of it completed in the summer during the dry season as much as possible,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“It’s difficult, yes, for the traveling public to have to find ways around,” Shepherd said. “But in the end, it will produce long-term gains, because the road will be safer and smoother to drive [and] less prone to flooding.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/jlara\">\u003cem>Juan Carlos Lara\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\n\u003cp>San Francisco’s AI boom is making the rental market more competitive than ever. Prospective tenants face intense pressure to stand out, leaving them susceptible to substandard living conditions or outright scams. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-megaphone wp-block-embed-megaphone\">\u003cdiv class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC6264762819\n\u003c/div>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\u003cli>Part 1: \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12099253/as-ai-booms-daniel-lurie-declares-rent-emergency-in-san-francisco\">As AI Booms, Daniel Lurie Declares ‘Rent Emergency’ in San Francisco \u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\n\n\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12095536/after-the-18000-scam-how-can-bay-area-renters-protect-themselves\">After the $18,000 Scam, How Can Bay Area Renters Protect Themselves? | KQED\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\u003cstrong>Episode transcript\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This transcript is computer-generated. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra, and welcome to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Beyond Deng is packing up the Mission District apartment he’d been living in for the last few years. He has yet to find his next landing spot, but he’s got a big deadline looming over him. On Friday, he’ll have to be out of this apartment.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Beyond Deng: \u003c/strong>I wake up every single morning in my bed that’s now on the floor because we did it to sell our bed frame. And I think I’m just, damn, where am I going to be next week?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Earlier this summer, Deng’s landlord announced that they were selling the apartment building, throwing Deng and everyone else in the building into San Francisco’s crazy rental market.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Beyond Deng: \u003c/strong>So the last month and a half, we’ve been through this whole tedious, arduous journey on learning more about how we can project ourselves as tenants to now try to face this brutal landscape of the rental market.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>The AI boom has injected even more money into an already competitive rental market. So renters like Deng are now facing a desperate situation. Some are willing to pay extra, others are accepting substandard living conditions, and some are even falling for scams.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>People are accepting things that they otherwise wouldn’t, in these circumstances. It’s making renters more vulnerable. This is a landlord’s market right now.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker 1: \u003c/strong>What makes San Francisco special is being threatened right now. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daniel Lurie:\u003c/strong> When San Franciscans sit down at the kitchen table at night, many are asking another question. Can I still afford to live here?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker 2: \u003c/strong>The listings are pretty sparse to begin with.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker 3: \u003c/strong>I really hope we’re not being priced out of our move to the city.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker 4: \u003c/strong>It was so competitive that we’re moving to the East Bay.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Today, in part two of the Bay’s series on San Francisco’s AI-fueled rental crisis, KQED’s Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí tells us about how far some renters are willing to go to stay in San Francisco. I wonder if you can just tell me about like the range of crazy things that you’re hearing renters settle for in this rental market right now.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>People are accepting things that they otherwise wouldn’t. It’s not a new thing that you find someone in San Francisco or the Bay Area who has four, five, six roommates. But things start getting a little strange when you start hearing folks having to visit places with no kitchen, no bathroom, no sunlight. On Reddit, one user shared that he went to visit a spot. He walked around the room and then he’s like, where am I supposed to go use the restroom? And the landlord was like, oh, well, there’s a gym down the street. You should get a membership.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Oh my god. San Francisco has always been a very expensive place to live, a difficult place to rent in, and we talked in our last episode of The Bay about how this is just a unique moment in the city because of just the sheer wealth that is being injected into the city with the AI boom, but how is this competition and this pressure in the rental market right now changing renters’ behavior?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>We know that in San Francisco, there’s always been a market for living spaces that offer the minimum. But now we’re seeing people who are, you know, have full-time jobs, who are professionals, who let’s say would be in most other places in the country in very comfortable circumstances, having to then also compete for the same exact spaces. As a renter, you don’t have any guarantee that a landlord’s even going to look at message right on Zillow or Craigslist, whatever. One way to stand out is to offer more. You know, if the listing was, hey, this is for 4,000, you’re gonna have some people emailing the landlord being, hey, I’m willing to pay 5,000. If I set my homie up in a closet, they might say, oh, this good, man, I’ll settle here.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ora Prochovnick: \u003c/strong>People feel desperate and sometimes just think any four walls and ceiling and a floor is worth it and they’ll put up with a lot of problems.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>As part of my reporting, I spoke to Ora Prochovnick. She is the Director of Litigation at the San Francisco Eviction Defense Collaborative. This is a renter’s rights group. She’s seen how in this tight market, people are making desperate choices to find a home.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ora Prochovnick: \u003c/strong>The escalating anxiety around, if you find a place that’s at all desirable and within your ballpark about what you can afford, you know that in one afternoon, at least 20 other tenants are gonna be putting in their applications to compete with yours.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I mean, people are desperate. People are desperate to stay here and find a way to make it work here in San Francisco. And so, I mean it sounds like people are kind of not just going through crazy lengths in order to stay there, but are also more vulnerable, as you say. And another part of your reporting too is that folks have been more susceptible to scams.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>When competition is this intense, this is both anecdotal and this is something that I’ve seen again and again, especially on Craigslist, are scams.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alvin Tran: \u003c/strong>I was super excited to see the listing because it was a two bed, one and a half bath. And that was exactly what my roommate and I were looking for.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>I spoke to Alvin Tran who lives in San Francisco and he got a 10% rent increase. You know, with his bestie, he starts looking for a new spot and they’re looking everywhere and they find a spot on Craigslist.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alvin Tran: \u003c/strong>Photos and the description, the place looks huge. There’s a lot of sunlight and it was in an ideal location. It was within our top three neighborhoods that we were looking for and it within our budget.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>He emails the contact on Craigslist. The person on Craiglist who put up the listing says, fantastic, why don’t you come to the open house?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alvin Tran: \u003c/strong>So when I arrived at the open house, I saw that there were around six or seven other parties there and people have already mentioned that they have already applied online on Zillow.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>He sees the competition and he’s like, okay, obviously, you know, he’s proactive as soon as they get home, let me email the person I’ve been talking to on Craigslist, makes his interest very clear. He says, hey, I’m ready to put money down.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alvin Tran: \u003c/strong>I was feeling a little bit pressured on how do I make myself stand out? How do I be able to kind of secure this apartment?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>He and his roomie were asked to put down $18,000 together. It was $6,000 for the first month of rent, another $6000 for last month of the rent, and an additional $6k for a deposit.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alvin Tran: \u003c/strong>I was super excited to finally get confirmation that we were approved and that lease included a signed signature. So I assumed that everything went well and this is the end.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>Of a journey. And it turns out that the person he sent the money to on Craigslist was not the landlord. What this scammer had done was, you know, he had seen other listings on Zillow and other places and created a fake one on Craigslist and sent Alvin to the open house that the real landlord was doing. So he intercepted what would otherwise been a regular normal interaction between Alvin and the real landlord.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alvin Tran: \u003c/strong>I tried texting the number that I had. I tried calling and emailing. I even tried knocking on the door, but never got any response.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>The person he sent the money to just disappeared, blocked Alvin, you know, stop taking his calls, stop responding his emails, but obviously he was able to like keep the money, right? Because it was done through a bank wire, bank transfer.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alvin Tran: \u003c/strong>I was just shocked and floored that it turned out to be a scam. And then that sadness turned into frustration and then devastation because I then now realized that I have wired a big chunk of money to the wrong person and to a scammer.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So Alvin lost $18,000 through this scam. And I think maybe some people might hear this, Carlos, and have very little empathy for Alvin, because, I mean, Craigslist scams are not new, but also $18000 is a lot of money. I mean what stands out to you about his situation?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>Yeah, yeah. Alvin told me, he’s like, what was his blind spot? And what he shared was like, if he had just, maybe at the open house, talked with the landlord and was like hey, wanna confirm? Is this your email or is this your phone number? This wouldn’t have happened. But his mind was elsewhere. 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While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra, and welcome to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Beyond Deng is packing up the Mission District apartment he’d been living in for the last few years. He has yet to find his next landing spot, but he’s got a big deadline looming over him. On Friday, he’ll have to be out of this apartment.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Beyond Deng: \u003c/strong>I wake up every single morning in my bed that’s now on the floor because we did it to sell our bed frame. And I think I’m just, damn, where am I going to be next week?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Earlier this summer, Deng’s landlord announced that they were selling the apartment building, throwing Deng and everyone else in the building into San Francisco’s crazy rental market.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Beyond Deng: \u003c/strong>So the last month and a half, we’ve been through this whole tedious, arduous journey on learning more about how we can project ourselves as tenants to now try to face this brutal landscape of the rental market.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>The AI boom has injected even more money into an already competitive rental market. So renters like Deng are now facing a desperate situation. Some are willing to pay extra, others are accepting substandard living conditions, and some are even falling for scams.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>People are accepting things that they otherwise wouldn’t, in these circumstances. It’s making renters more vulnerable. This is a landlord’s market right now.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker 1: \u003c/strong>What makes San Francisco special is being threatened right now. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daniel Lurie:\u003c/strong> When San Franciscans sit down at the kitchen table at night, many are asking another question. Can I still afford to live here?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker 2: \u003c/strong>The listings are pretty sparse to begin with.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker 3: \u003c/strong>I really hope we’re not being priced out of our move to the city.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker 4: \u003c/strong>It was so competitive that we’re moving to the East Bay.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Today, in part two of the Bay’s series on San Francisco’s AI-fueled rental crisis, KQED’s Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí tells us about how far some renters are willing to go to stay in San Francisco. I wonder if you can just tell me about like the range of crazy things that you’re hearing renters settle for in this rental market right now.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>People are accepting things that they otherwise wouldn’t. It’s not a new thing that you find someone in San Francisco or the Bay Area who has four, five, six roommates. But things start getting a little strange when you start hearing folks having to visit places with no kitchen, no bathroom, no sunlight. On Reddit, one user shared that he went to visit a spot. He walked around the room and then he’s like, where am I supposed to go use the restroom? And the landlord was like, oh, well, there’s a gym down the street. You should get a membership.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Oh my god. San Francisco has always been a very expensive place to live, a difficult place to rent in, and we talked in our last episode of The Bay about how this is just a unique moment in the city because of just the sheer wealth that is being injected into the city with the AI boom, but how is this competition and this pressure in the rental market right now changing renters’ behavior?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>We know that in San Francisco, there’s always been a market for living spaces that offer the minimum. But now we’re seeing people who are, you know, have full-time jobs, who are professionals, who let’s say would be in most other places in the country in very comfortable circumstances, having to then also compete for the same exact spaces. As a renter, you don’t have any guarantee that a landlord’s even going to look at message right on Zillow or Craigslist, whatever. One way to stand out is to offer more. You know, if the listing was, hey, this is for 4,000, you’re gonna have some people emailing the landlord being, hey, I’m willing to pay 5,000. If I set my homie up in a closet, they might say, oh, this good, man, I’ll settle here.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ora Prochovnick: \u003c/strong>People feel desperate and sometimes just think any four walls and ceiling and a floor is worth it and they’ll put up with a lot of problems.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>As part of my reporting, I spoke to Ora Prochovnick. She is the Director of Litigation at the San Francisco Eviction Defense Collaborative. This is a renter’s rights group. 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You know, that could be for a later story, but there’s a huge significance to mental health to just basic wellbeing, knowing that you wake up and if you want, you can raise the curtains or you can just open the window and have access to fresh air and sunlight.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So landlords owe you basic things as a tenant, but what about how to avoid scams like Alvin’s situation?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>There’s a few small things that you can do to just kind of immediately spot a scam. And in Alvin’s case, the $18,000 that he was asked for, that should have been the first red flag. And Ora had a lot to say about that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ora Prochovnick: \u003c/strong>California limits the amount of money that landlords are allowed to charge at the start of a tenancy.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>Landlords, especially, you know, at the big level where they own multiple properties, they can’t charge you more than one month of rent and then a deposit. And in Alvin’s case, it was $6,000 for first month of rental, $6000 for last month of rent, and then $6K for an additional deposit.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>So if they ask you for any more than that?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>Red flag because it’s well one it’s illegal so it’s either you have a landlord that doesn’t read the law which is okay that’s already a problem or two a scammer that doesn’ know anything about California rental law and something that everyone I spoke to told me is avoid a wire transfer which is unfortunately what Alvin you know ended up doing he sent the $18,000 via wire transfer.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ora Prochovnick: \u003c/strong>It’s never a good idea to do, unfortunately, what was done in this case. Don’t wire money, don’t use crypto, don’t us those digital apps that we’ve all come to love like Venmo and Zelle because you’re not protected when you use those tools.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>Once you send that money out, there’s no way for you to get it back, versus if I sign you a check, or even if I pay you through my credit card, I still have a chance to be able to cancel that and get that money back.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I mean, one thing I’m struggling with here, Carlos, is the fact that I think you could be as aware of your rights as a tenant as possible. You could be read up on California state law, but it sounds like there are enough renters in the market right now who are willing to settle for less. I mean what advice would you give to people right now on how to navigate San Francisco’s rental market?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>We’ve been in a landlord’s market before. There’s a lot of circumstances, right, out of our control where the AI boom goes next. But we have to also remember that individual actions add up to a collective result. You know, like we normalize landlords charging $4,000, $5,000. We’re putting ourselves in a position where we as tenants collectively will have less power. You gotta make these rights worth it somehow, right? Like you gotta fight for them if they’re not, you know, rights are only there if you fight for them, if you stand up for them, if you use them, if you work them.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Carlos, thank you so much for sharing your reporting. I appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí: \u003c/strong>Thank you ECG.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí, a community reporter for KQED. By the way, this episode is the first in a series of stories we’re doing here on the Bay about how AI is affecting the Bay Area’s rental crisis. We’ll leave a link to the first episode in our show notes. This episode was cut down and edited by senior editor Alan Montecillo. Gabriela Glueck is our producer. She scored this episode and added all the tape. Music courtesy of Audio Network. If you wanna get in touch with us here at The Bay, feel free to send us an email. We’re at thebayatkqed.org. Support for The Bay is provided in part by the Osher Production Fund. Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by the Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, San Francisco, Northern California Local. And I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Thanks so much for listening. Peace.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, San Francisco-Northern California Local.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#Transcript\">View Full Episode Transcript\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Before her historic Speakership, even before she got to the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi worked for years outside the spotlight as an official in the California Democratic party while she raised her family in San Francisco. That was until 1987, when tragic circumstances led her to do something she hadn’t considered before: run for Congress. Her first hurdle? A city in crisis and a motivated opponent from a community impacted by a deadly epidemic.\u003cbr>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003ch2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"Transcript\">Episode Transcript \u003c/h2>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Hi, I’m Scott Schafer. I’ve been covering politics for nearly 30 years, especially here in San Francisco. As a reporter, I’ve watched a lot of people rise from San Francisco into the national arena. Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, Dianne Feinstein. But no one has fascinated me more than Nancy Pelosi, trailblazer, power broker, lightning rod, first woman ever speaker of the house. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Tonight on Express, the campaigning has been intense. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: I remember watching her way back in 1987. That was the first time she was running for Congress here in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: We do have 14 candidates here, so can we keep this discussion on an even scale? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: This is from a televised debate hosted here at KQED, the public media outlet where I work. All the candidates are sitting on risers, lots of poofy, teased hair, wide-framed glasses, and Pelosi is in the front row, perfect blowout, wearing a purple blazer. [00:00:57][15.8]\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: I think this is the most hilarious thing that a woman can come into this district from outside of it and buy this election. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: [00:01:04] Pelosi’s critics, mostly other Democrats, call her a wealthy socialite. They say she’s the establishment pick. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: And what we have is we have, in this election, somebody saying, the machine backs me, I’ve got a million bucks, I don’t live in your district, I have never met many of your slobs, but I’m going to be your new leader because I got bucks and I’m powerful. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: How can she relate to people like me a single-parent working mother? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Let’s let Nancy talk. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: I don’t think you have to be sick to be a doctor or poor to understand the problems of the poor. I have spent my life committed to the ideals of the Democratic Party. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: It’s an interesting moment, Pelosi turns their argument around, saying that she’s the right candidate precisely because she’s been working behind the scenes. She knows the game inside out. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: I believe that I will be the best and most effective representative for San Francisco because I have worked in that arena for 25 years, both at the local, state, and national level. I have work with the members of Congress long before they went to Congress and long since. I have persuaded them on votes, both by one-on-one persuasion and by mobilizing in their districts.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Last year, Pelosi announced she was retiring. As a journalist, I started thinking about how she went from being relatively unknown to one of the most formidable politicians of her generation, and about the role she’s played leading up to this political moment, a moment where faith in the Democratic Party and public trust in U.S. Institutions are at their lowest in decades. And she agreed to talk, a series of five interviews. Okay, we’re gonna put you right there I wear the red light.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Unfortunately, this is not visual because I got off the plane. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Our first interview, she had just gotten off a cross-country flight, she was also nursing a cold, but I knew how to get things started on the right foot.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: I’m glad I’m seeing that. I’m going to go right into it, okay? I think I should test them.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Nancy Pelosi is kind of a tough interview. I’ve done it many times before, usually about a political issue. She’s always warm and gracious until you ask something that annoys her and then she lets you know it.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: I don’t feel that way at all. I don’t even know why you’re asking that question. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She can be loyal to her talking points. Frustrating. How do you want people to remember your legacy?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Not so fast on the legacy. We have to win the house, which we will do. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She’ll completely deny the premise of your question. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: No, I didn’t oppose it for many years. I posed it when they suggested it, and then Kalka said they won it and I supported it.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: But I figured this is the time, right now, before she leaves office, to really reckon with the force that is Nancy Pelosi. From KQED, this is The Speaker, how Nancy Pelosi changed the face of power. This is the inside story of her rise and what she did when she got there, as told by the people who were in the rooms where it all happened.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Anna Eshoo: Nancy always would talk about winning and how to win. I said, Mr. President, we’re so excited about doing health care, but understand this, it’s going to be carpet bombing, take no prisoners, you name it, total warfare.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Rahm Emanuel: She is comfortable with power and exercising it. Nancy exists in the arena. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mick Mulvaney: I’ve often described it with a little bit tongue-in-cheek, because I’m not going to accuse anybody. I want to make clear here that I’m not slandering anybody, I’m not accusing anybody of any criminal activity, but she reminded me of a mafia boss. That’s how she ran the place.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: They were going to get a bullet in my effing brain. You know, they used the F word a lot about me throughout the whole thing. They were gonna hang Vice President Gallows for him.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Today, how Nancy Pelosi got to Congress. She had been the ultimate insider, working for years as a high-up official in the Democratic Party, forged by San Francisco politics. But also an outsider, a woman, a mother of five kids, behind the scenes. Had you not ever considered running with her?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: I had zero interest in running for office. Why? It was like, did you not want to go skydiving? I didn’t even think of it. I loved public service, and I was the ultimate volunteer, the chair of the California Democratic Party.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: There she was, diligently working behind the scenes, until a twist of fate tested what she was made of. Nancy Pelosi never planned to run for public office, but in 1987, San Francisco’s congresswoman, Sala Burton, was dying. She was a big woman. She was, like, shrunk up on cancer. That’s John Burton, Sala’s brother-in-law, part of the family’s political operation. Let me set the scene here. The congresswoman is on her deathbed. She hasn’t yet endorsed a successor, but her endorsement is priceless. Her family has held this seat since the \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>John Burton: She calls the group of us back to her hospital bed, where she’s just like, and she tells us, I’m not going to run again. I’d like you to support Nancy Pelosi. She starts going into Nancy Pelosi, she’s operational. She’s right on the issue. She says, she said, he said, and I walk out, she says, is she bullshitting or what?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: John Burton didn’t see Nancy Pelosi as a candidate. She was the Democratic fundraiser, organizer, behind the scenes. But Sawa saw it.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>John Burton: Something else. She saw in Nancy Pelosi a tough, strong, determined, liberal, caring for people person. I mean, it was just, I walked out and I said, holy my God. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: She said to me, I’m going to ask you if you will run for my seat, and I need to know your answer now.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi told Salah she had to check with her family first. She had five kids. By 1987, only one was still living at home.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: My daughter Alexandra, she says, mother, what teenage girl does not want her mother out of the house three nights of the week? Then she said, get a life.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Maybe her youngest daughter didn’t really see it, but Pelosi definitely had a life. She moved her family to San Francisco in 1969, just a couple years after the Summer of Love, a time when the city was home to artists like Janis Joplin and the Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane. Pelosi was hardly a member of the counterculture, but insists she loves the Gratiful Dead. For those first few years, she had her hands full with the kids.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Especially, I have five and six years to have to understand. Sometimes I didn’t even wash my face. Being a mom is probably the best preparation for anything because you are multitasking all of the time.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: But politics was in her DNA. She’d grown up in a political family. Her dad became the mayor of Baltimore when she was just seven. San Francisco is her husband Paul’s hometown. The year they moved back, his brother Ron was on the board of supervisors. They lived down the street from San Francisco mayor Joe Alioto.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: When people came and saw our house, they would say, oh, this is a big house. We’ll have lots of political events here.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: And you did.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: And we did. How do you turn people down then? And my kids were so cute as they were getting a little bit bigger, they were making the hors d’oeuvres and serving the hors-d’oeuves and the rest of that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She started taking on more political stuff, organizing volunteers, hosting candidates in her home, raising money. She became a prolific fundraiser for Democratic candidates. In 1976, California Governor Jerry Brown decided to run for president. A left coast challenge to Jimmy Carter.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Jerry Brown: Ten years of problems in Vietnam and Watergate and all the scandals you read about in the FBI and the CIA. I think people, I think the people are ready for a new generation of leadership.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Brown entered the race pretty late in the game, but Pelosi used her Baltimore political connections to help him win Maryland’s Democratic primary. Here’s another candidate, Barbara Mikulski. Pelosi helped her win a Senate seat.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Barbara Mikulski: [00:09:44] I was out there going earring to earring with Linda Chavez. She had Ronald Reagan, and I had Nancy Pelosi.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: By 1981, Pelosi was chair of the California Democratic Party, in charge of getting Democrats elected all across the state. She had a reputation for being relentless, but she was also known for her personal touch. When Nancy talked to you, you felt like you were the center of the world. That’s Art Agnos, a former mayor of San Francisco and also, by the way, my ex-boss. I worked on his staff from 1986 to 1992. That was before I became a reporter for KQED in 1998. Anyway, Art remembers going over to Pelosi’s house for dinner back in the 70s. He was just a staffer himself back then. She invited us to her home for dinner with Leo, who was the main person. Art’s talking about Leo McCarthy. McCarthy was the speaker of the state assembly. That’s California’s version of the House of Representatives. She made sure that… \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Art Agnos: I brought my kids? No one ever said bring your kids. Pelosi even had her kids babysitting his kids, taking them upstairs to the bedroom, playing games. Her kids are taking care of my kids. I was the staff guy. She generated a kind of loyalty and love from my family that came from her attentive, thoughtful, sweet interest in us.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: This is what Sala Burton saw in Nancy Pelosi, according to Art.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Sala Burton anointed Nancy Pelosi to be her successor. After she died on February 1st, there would be a primary just two months later, in April, to pick the top candidate for each party. So now the race was on. Sala’s brother-in-law, John Burton, would run Pelosi’s campaign and they would use the Burton playbook.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Phil Burton: No person is an island under themselves. We all need each other and we’ve got each other, I promise you that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: That’s Phil Burton, John’s older brother, Sal’s husband, a chain-smoking giant in San Francisco politics. The Burton political machine specialized in something that seems pretty standard today — coalition politics. They mobilized groups other politicians overlooked. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Their coalition was gay. It wasn’t LGBT as it is today, but you know, it was, it wasn’t called that. Gay, African-American, labor.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Phil Burton put it a little differently.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Phil Burton: I’ve got the support of the gays and the cops as well, ain’t that a bitch? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Willie Brown: We ran everything at that day’s game. We were the most diverse operation politically in this city, period. And Nancy was a part of that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: That’s another former San Francisco mayor.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Willie Brown: I’m Willie Brown, period. I was part of Phil Burton’s operation. What do you remember about her? Well, I just remember that she was a very attractive woman. Oh, very opinionated, I must say.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She sort of had an unlikely friendship with John, who once accidentally left cocaine in the pocket of a suit he sent to the dry cleaners.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Willie Brown: In the drinking world. John was all the things that you wouldn’t even think Nancy would know about. But they had a friendship.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Close with the Burtons, raised campaign funds for them, but she also helped their rivals within the party.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Willie Brown: I’m telling you.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She had her whole body in both camps.” Her campaign chose the slogan, a voice that will be heard. Her campaign promised all the other candidates could talk, but with her connections and her experience, she would be the most effective at doing things in Congress. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Willie Brown: It was not like she was going to be the next Jesse Jackson. No, Nancy was the pro who was going to help orchestrate the process.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She pulled together a team of field captains who had experience with the United Farm Workers Union to set up her ground game. An army of volunteers knocked on doors, made phone calls, staffed campaign events and signed up other volunteers to get out the vote on election day. At one point, Pelosi’s brother Tommy came to visit campaign headquarters in San Francisco. He’d been the mayor of Baltimore just like their father.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: And he said, Daddy sent me to make sure that you had your ground game in place. So I said, well, come see what it is.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: On sheets of butcher paper, Pelosi and her team had mapped out the strategy in true Burton fashion. They had divided up the city into factions and were seeing how they could make a winning coalition, gaming out worst-case scenarios.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Every black vote, Asian, gay vote, the lefties, if we give them every possible vote, not that they would get every possible, Nancy loses by a couple thousand votes. We have sent our troops out to get 5,000 more votes.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Their team sent targeted mailers to different communities—Italian, African American, gay—and they quietly slipped some to Republicans. John Burton again. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>John Burton: I’d go to things with her, go to that, and just watch her. One time some group was kind of screwing over her and walked out and she says, don’t worry, we will show them how truly unimportant they are after the election.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: But, she wasn’t going to take a single vote for granted. Before she ran for the House in 1987, Pelosi had run in one other election inside the party for chair of the Democratic National Committee. That’s the group that coordinates strategy, establishes the Democratic Party platform. She lost. And she learned a lesson she never forgot.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: I had done everything in the party and worked with many people. People that I had worked with forever were making terrible statements about me.\u003cbr>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi said she was the target of all sorts of attacks, including sexist ones. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: So when I ran for Congress, and people would call me and say, did you see what someone so said? I said, yeah, don’t bother me with that. If you’re concerned about that, get on the phone and make some calls, walk some precincts, but don’t think I care about what somebody else says. And I would not have realized that had I not seen how Democrats treated Democrats when I run for the other office.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Democrats against Democrats, a knife fight in a phone booth. That’s what Pelosi was entering in the primary. Against a motivated opponent fighting for a city reeling from a deadly epidemic.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Where did it go?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: This is an old news clip from 1987. A singer charms a crowd with a famous Judy Garland cover.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Politics in San Francisco, a fundraiser in a cabaret that caters to gays. At this event, the candidate is gay as well, Democrat Harry Britt.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The bar is packed with gay and lesbian supporters. The sign at the door reads, We’re just wild about Harry Britt.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: While he would be a political outsider elsewhere in the country with his progressive agenda, he fits in easily in San Francisco. Liberal credentials are essential. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Harry Britt was a San Francisco supervisor and Nancy Pelosi’s toughest rival. He was soft-spoken, with a serious tone, kind of an intellectual, a little socially awkward. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harry Britt: I’m from Texas and I come from a family of Southerners. I was a Methodist minister for a major part of my life and that was\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: That was Britt in a TV interview. He never intended to run for office. Like Pelosi, he was more behind the scenes. In 1977, he volunteered to help elect Harvey Milk to the board of supervisors. Milk was the first openly gay person elected in California.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harvey Milk: There are 15 million lesbian and gay men waiting to hear your voice! We are coming out of the closet! When are you going to come out of yours?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The next year, Harvey Milk was assassinated, along with the mayor at the time, George Moscone. The killer was Dan White. He had been on the board of supervisors with Milk. A year before he died, Harvey milk made a recording. A list of people he would want to replace him if he were assassinated. And who was on that list?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harvey Milk: The third choice I would have would be Harry Britt, who most people don’t know, but I’ve watched Harry, and Harry’s been involved with three campaigns, and I’ve watched Harry grow and grow and grow, and a very, very dedicated and strong person. One who will not be pushed around. One who understands where the movement is and where it must go. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Harry Britt again.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harry Britt: Harvey’s gone, but all of us who cared about him and the things that he stood for realize now that it’s our job.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Tom Ammiano: The murders unified, made us cohesive, and that translated into political muscle. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Tom Amiano was active in the gay rights movement, friends with Harvey Milk, and Harry.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Tom Ammiano: Harvey was very charismatic and out there, and Harry was just a steady, even presence.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: In the early 80s, the community was still reeling from the assassinations, and then another deadly threat emerged. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Tom Ammiano: AIDS was rampant. Every day somebody died. Every day you saw somebody with purple splotches or you’d say, hey, what happened to Michael? He was supposed to show. You didn’t hear, he died.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: I moved to San Francisco in 1981, just as some gay men started coming down with some unusual symptoms. Thrush or yeast infections in the throat that wouldn’t go away, fungal infections in the lungs, lesions on the skin, weight loss. Doctors didn’t know why, but soon they were dying. As the casualties mounted, so did the fear. There was no test for the virus yet. We didn’t even know it was a virus. Many of us were worried, afraid we had this ticking time bomb inside of us. But there was nothing to do but be careful and wait. It escalated quickly. By 1984, it became common to see people with full blown AIDS emaciated, looking old beyond their years, covered with purple splotches, Kaposi sarcoma. We’d see men who looked to be at death’s door, slowly walking or shuffling around the Castro neighborhood. There were funerals, lots of funerals, many for people in their 20s, 30s, and 40s. It was a slow motion disaster. But it seemed no one in Washington cared. Harry Britt again. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harry Britt: So I think it’s legitimate for us to point out that the people who care the most about AIDS and certainly the gay community which cares in a passionate way about AIDS is very united behind my candidacy.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: These were the stakes of the 87th Special Election. In that Congressional race, many saw Harry Britt, not Pelosi, as the champion the gay community needed in Washington. It was also a chance to make history.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Gwenn Craig: It was beyond who’s Harry Britt, it was beyond whose Nancy Pelosi. It was that we might get an openly gay member of Congress.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: That’s Gwen Craig. She came to San Francisco in 1975. She worked closely with Milk and would become involved in Harry Britt’s campaign.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Gwenn Craig: The nonchalance, it seemed, of Congress and the executive administrations just was maddening.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The CDC first published an article describing five young gay patients in Los Angeles whose immune systems suddenly failed in 1981. But President Reagan didn’t publicly address the crisis for four years, only then because he was asked about it. By 1987, nearly 2,000 San Franciscans had died of AIDS. I remember a lot of people in the gay community thought that Pelosi, a wealthy, straight, white woman, wasn’t the best person to fight for them in Washington. The Brit campaign didn’t hold back. Here’s one ad they ran.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival Ad: Inspector Riley, Missing Person Squad. Yeah, we’ve heard that report. No, we haven’t seen Nancy Pelosi. That’s why she’s a missing person. Nobody has seen Nancy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Britt’s campaign sent out mailers calling her a dilettante.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Most people didn’t know what that meant.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi again. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: And they said, does that mean you’re a debut talent? Aren’t you old to be a debut? They did one piece.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Gwenn Craig: Call that referred to Nancy Pelosi as party girl because she came from being head of the Democratic Party.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Gwen Craig again, Lesbian Activist. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Gwenn Craig: I didn’t like that piece at all.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: What was it that you didn’t like about it?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Gwenn Craig: Well, I thought it was rather misogynist. You know, I though it was sexist. I thought that it belittled her in a way because of her gender. So I became then uncomfortable with my support of Harry for a while after that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: They warned us it would be brutal, and it would a bloodbath, and I’d be sorry I ever got in the race, but I wasn’t frightened by any of that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi did something in 1987 that she rarely does. She agreed to a televised debate a week before the election, right here at KQED. Pelosi was the front-runner. She had a lot to lose.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Nancy Pelosi, a Democratic Party insider, runs ahead in recent polls. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Harry Britt was close on her heels. In addition to being part of the gay movement, he was a democratic socialist. He believed in challenging corporate power structures, and once tried to rein in wealthy landlords with commercial rent control.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: A gay activist who is to the left of his chief opponents. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Just before the debate, Pelosi’s campaign threatened to pull out. Her staff was worried the other candidates would gang up on her.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Calm down a little bit.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: It was a free for all, with all 14 candidates left, right and center. It made for great live television.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Mr. Zur, this is not a forum for you just to make a speech. At this point in this discussion, we are—you’ve got a lot of words in.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The moderators asked if her critics were right, that she was out of touch. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: But there are a lot of people who seem to be disturbed by, I guess, where you come from. The idea of your wealth and your connections among the well-to-do. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: And Harry Britt questioned whether she could be trusted to fight for everyday people.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harry Britt: How can you be an effective advocate for consumer issues like keeping interest rates low on credit cards when you’ve gotten money from banks and savings and loan associations? How can really fight to get oil companies to clean up toxic waste when you got money from Chevron and Getty and all these people? I challenge Nancy Pelosi who has never had to stand up to that kind of pressure.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Based on available campaign finance records, we couldn’t verify if Pelosi took money from Chevron for her campaign. But members of the influential Getty family, her family friends who made their fortune in oil, did donate $5,000 to her congressional campaign. But Pelosi pointed her finger and returned fire.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Harry, have you taken any PAC money? Have you taken a PAC money. I have not taken any money. Any PAC money, have any you taken PAC money \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Britt’s campaign was mostly grassroots funded, but Pelosi? Her campaign spent around a million dollars, more than the other 13 candidates combined. 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She never worried about the things that worry most of the people in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Let’s let Nancy answer.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: First of all, my ability to fund my own campaign to the extent that I can and to raise money over 1,500 contributors to my campaign gives me an independence that none of my candidates, I believe, share, especially the four supervisors who were reported this week to have received $1,000 each from the Embarcadero Center and then voted to give them a street this week. So if you want to talk about independence, let’s talk about Independence.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi knew that she needed to do something to neutralize the idea that she was beholden to wealthy interests. So she counterpunched by saying to her opponents, well, you’re not exactly pure either. According to federal campaign fundraising data, each of the four city supervisors did receive a thousand dollar contribution from the CEO of the Embarcadero Center. That’s a set of high-rise office buildings downtown. We couldn’t verify the claim that he got a favor in return. But she’s doing something here by implying that. She’s undercutting them. It’s a classic campaign tactic, pointing out the hypocrisy in your opponent’s charge. After the primary, that same CEO gave $1,000 to Pelosi’s campaign for Congress. That’s politics. Pelosi has always argued that the PAC money she took was from Democratic allies who cared about regular people. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Labor unions, from the Nurses Association, from organizations dedicated to the election of women to Congress.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: To her, raising money was just a means to an end. This was the late 80s. Money was changing politics as we knew it, and Pelosi was going to do everything she needed to do to win. You didn’t take any of that personally.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: No, I mean it’s a campaign. What do you expect?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival: There was a special election here in San Francisco today to fill a congressional seat left empty by the death of congresswoman Sala Burton.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: As the election got close, Pelosi had dropped in the polls, so election day was a nail-biter. Britt needed a big turnout in the predominantly gay Castro neighborhood, and he got that. But in the end, he could not overcome Pelosi’s ground game.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival: And here in San Francisco, the Democrat Nancy Pelosi defeated Harry Britt, a city supervisor who is gay.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Under rules for special elections like this one, the top contender from each party would move on to a runoff in June. Britt was out. Gwen Craig and Tom Amiano again. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Gwenn Craig: People took it pretty hard. They were really disappointed, because I think a lot of people thought, we’re gonna actually get an openly gay person going to Congress. That’s going to be such a huge step forward.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Tom Ammiano: We’re all in a little bit of despair. You know, who is this woman? What does she know?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: After she won the primary, Pelosi called a meeting with AIDS activists. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Tom Ammiano: It wasn’t milquetoast ones, you know, it was angry ones. And they met with her. And I’m not saying that the reaction was 100% positive. I know that she shed some tears and I’m sure that they were sincere. But to the hard-bitten, we didn’t want tears.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Britt wasn’t the only person who understood the magnitude of the crisis. Pelosi also knew people who died of the disease, family friends, political staffers, people in her community.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: People were dying and I was visiting people in the hospital that we were close to and they were robust young men out there and then they were like a bag of bones in the hospitals, a bag a bones.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: During the election, Pelosi had also promised action on AIDS.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival: We want to stop spending money on a big defense budget and instead address it to the most important crisis of our time, the AIDS crisis.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: In the runoff, Pelosi easily defeated the Republican. She was on her way to Congress.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival of Pelosi’s Swearing In: Without objection, the gentlewoman from California is reckoned.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival of Pelosi’s Swearing In: Thank you very much for your kind remarks and to all of you. It’s a very sentimental day for me as you can see.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: When a new member of Congress is first sworn in, it’s kind of rare for them to say anything of note, let alone something controversial. But on that day, in June of 1987, Pelosi, sounding a little nervous, surprised everyone.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival of Pelosi’s Swearing In: And now we must take the leadership, of course, in the crisis of AIDS, and I look forward to working with you on that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Now Brit’s supporters would have to put their faith in the person who defeated him. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: On a foggy morning in 1989, protesters unfurled a banner across the Golden Gate Bridge reading AIDS equals genocide, silence equals death, calling out the newly elected president and former Vice President George H.W. Bush.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: They blocked traffic for more than an hour. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: I was one of the persons that sat on the bridge on January 31st, 1989. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: It was so cold.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Since 1988 Mike Shriver had been organizing with act up a direct action group focused on AIDS.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: During Pelosi’s first full term in Congress, the deaths continued unabated. There was no vaccine, no cure, limited treatment. So people took to the bridge.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: It’s one of the proudest moments of my life, actually. And as we were being pulled one person at a time to being arrested, my mentor, he said to me, if I could feel the way that I feel right now, I will live forever. I will survive the epidemic.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: By 1988, Shriver and his peers had started focusing on how to change policy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: This whole cadre of ACT UP individuals taught themselves how to become experts in research, experts in policy, experts in drug development. I happened to go down the track of the public health policy stuff.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: He remembers a meeting with Nancy Pelosi. He was there with someone who needed access to an experimental AIDS treatment.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: I got to sit there in the room and he talked to Mrs. Pelosi and he said, I didn’t vote for you, but you’re my representative and I expect that you’ll take care of me. And she looked him deadpan and said, absolutely, that is my job.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: It was our purpose. That’s just the way it was. It wasn’t like, I really hope you will do this. This is absolutely urgent that you do this.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: When I asked Pelosi about her support for AIDS funding, she was very matter of fact about it. To her, it seemed like a no-brainer.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Was not prepared for discrimination. Now these people were not anti-gay, they just thought the rest of the room was.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: For sure, Pelosi had solid allies, like California Congressmembers Barbara Boxer and Henry Waxman from Los Angeles. But they faced opposition because of the stigma of AIDS. And then activists had an idea.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Cleve Jones came to my house with Art Agnos when I’m a newly elected member of Congress and says he has this idea that people will make a quilt for their loved ones. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Cleve Jones was a young activist who had worked for Harvey Milk. He later went on to mobilize the community to respond to HIV AIDS and co-created what became known as the AIDS Memorial Quilt. Tens of thousands of panels, handcrafted with care, by mothers and fathers, brothers, co-workers, friends, lovers and spouses, sewn into three by six foot panels. Panels for everyone, from musicians like Freddie Mercury of Queen and Sylvester. To political activists and artists like Keith Haring and Robert Mapplethorpe, to others who lived quieter lives but whose death crushed those who loved them. Jones had a vision. He wanted to spread huge sections of the quilt out on the National Mall in Washington.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Enormous quilts, enormous, big as the mall. Pelosi was on board to help bring the quilt to DC, but there was a hitch.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: The National Park Service says, we’ll give you a corner where you can have a few patches. Can you imagine? So I said, well, they’re certainly not gonna do that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She asked the National Park Service, why can’t we display the full quilt? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: It’s gonna kill the grass, but why? Because if you have something on the grass for more than 20 minutes, it kills the grass.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi had an idea.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: We have hundreds of people, we can pick it up every 20 minutes.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The National Park Service caved, and on October 11, 1987, the AIDS quilt was first displayed in Washington, D.C.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: It was so beautiful.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival – AIDS memorial quilt: Bill Cathcart. Bob Greenwood.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Across the National Mall, the names of the fallen echoed as Cleve Jones read some of them. I was there then.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival – AIDS memorial quilt: Douglas Lowery.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi was one of the few members of Congress there. Even then, she was laser-focused. She told a reporter for GayUSA…\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Now, the first day I… \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Became a member, I became a co-sponsor of the Gay Civil Rights Bill, Ted Weiss’ bill, and we have a few pieces of legislation regarding AIDS, more money for AIDS, confidentiality, non-discrimination.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: At a time when HIV AIDS still felt like a death sentence, Nancy Pelosi helped change the prognosis. Pelosi co-authored the Ryan White Care Act. Ryan White was a teenager from Indiana who had hemophilia. He got AIDS from a medical treatment. After his diagnosis, his school banned him from attending class. To some lawmakers, White was someone they could help without worrying about attacks by religious zealots who thought AIDS was God’s punishment of gay men and IV drug users. Pelosi understood this. Former San Francisco Mayor Art Agnos again.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Art Agnos: She looked like the all-American woman. She was, she is beautiful. She had lovely kids, she had a handsome husband. What the hell is she doing with these weird people? When she showed up, she looks like us. How come she’s talking like that? And I think that gave her a entree to discussing AIDS, gay people, all the kinds of issues that are important to us in San Francisco. They listened because she looked like them.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The Ryan White Care Act passed in 1990. It created a financial safety net for people with HIV who were underinsured. She also helped push through a bill that allocated funds that people with HIV could use for housing.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: I got to go with her, and I’m sitting there watching her work.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: That’s the conference between the House and Senate that divides up government funding. Mike Shriver remembers one instance.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: The very first year that she got the most significant increase for HIV prevention was a year that a senator from Pennsylvania looked for some money for substance abuse treatment that he needed.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: That Senator, Arlen Specter, promised Nancy Pelosi he would restore her funding for HIV programs the next year. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: He made the commitment to her and he did it. For her, you know, you live up to your word. And if you don’t remember your word, I’ll tell you what you told me. And I thought, that’s magic.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Mike Shriver lives with HIV.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: I relied on Ryan White funding for my care and for my dental care and had I not had that, I would not have had access to the drugs that eventually had become what continue to keep me alive and keep me in remission with my HIV disease.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: So you’re saying she’s the reason you’re still here?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: I absolutely believe that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: There’s this one thing Mike told me that really stuck with me. He was telling me about a text exchange he had with Nancy after a health emergency in 2022.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: I had just emailed her the day before talking about finishing my IVIG infusion, which took five consecutive days, which just flattened me out. And she wrote back, Michael, loved getting your promising report. Love you, Nancy. A couple of emojis and then thank you. I’m so lucky, I am so privileged. I do not ever underestimate, like I don’t take this for granted. Nancy is not really good about receiving compliments. It’s not her favorite thing to experience and I’ve had to do it a couple of times and realize I know this is gonna piss you off or it’s gonna make you a little bit mad but I need you to hear how important it is of what you’ve done for us. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: When Pelosi ran in 1987, her slogan was a voice that will be heard. And when Nancy Pelosi became the first woman Speaker of the House\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: San Francisco for giving me the privilege.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She brought it back home.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: When I ran, my slogan was, a voice that will be heard. I think they’ve heard us. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: It took nearly 20 years, but Pelosi was on a path to becoming the first woman ever elected House Speaker. Next time on the speaker.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: I don’t see a plan here to win.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Rahm Emanuel: If you win, you get to set the table. Nancy Pelosi’s path to the top. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Barbara Boxer: One of those days on the plane, we were talking about, what is your dream in politics? And she said, I want to be Speaker of the House.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: You had to have some chutzpah at that point in her career to say I want to be speaker.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Barbara Boxer: Chutzpah doesn’t begin to describe it. It was impossible.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The Speaker is a production of KQED in San Francisco and distributed by NPR. It’s hosted and reported by me, Scott Shafer. Co-reported and produced by Ariella Markowitz. It’s edited by Padmini Raghunath. Final mix and sound design by Christopher Beale. Additional mixing by Brendan Willard. Fact checking by Mark Betancourt. Additional editing from Anna Sussman and Jen Chien, KQED’s director of podcasts. Original theme song composed by Cedric Wilson. Additional music from APM. Maha Sanad is KQED’s podcast engagement producer. Ethan Toven-Lindsey is KQED’s editor-in-chief. Special thanks to our partners from the Oral History Center at the University of California, Berkeley. Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by the Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television, and radio artists, San Francisco, Northern California Local. \u003c/p>\n",
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"innerHTML": "\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Hi, I’m Scott Schafer. I’ve been covering politics for nearly 30 years, especially here in San Francisco. As a reporter, I’ve watched a lot of people rise from San Francisco into the national arena. Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, Dianne Feinstein. But no one has fascinated me more than Nancy Pelosi, trailblazer, power broker, lightning rod, first woman ever speaker of the house. \u003c/p>\n",
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"innerHTML": "\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: This is from a televised debate hosted here at KQED, the public media outlet where I work. All the candidates are sitting on risers, lots of poofy, teased hair, wide-framed glasses, and Pelosi is in the front row, perfect blowout, wearing a purple blazer. [00:00:57][15.8]\u003c/p>\n",
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"innerHTML": "\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: [00:01:04] Pelosi’s critics, mostly other Democrats, call her a wealthy socialite. They say she’s the establishment pick. \u003c/p>\n",
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"innerHTML": "\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Last year, Pelosi announced she was retiring. As a journalist, I started thinking about how she went from being relatively unknown to one of the most formidable politicians of her generation, and about the role she’s played leading up to this political moment, a moment where faith in the Democratic Party and public trust in U.S. Institutions are at their lowest in decades. And she agreed to talk, a series of five interviews. Okay, we’re gonna put you right there I wear the red light.\u003c/p>\n",
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"innerHTML": "\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: But politics was in her DNA. She’d grown up in a political family. Her dad became the mayor of Baltimore when she was just seven. San Francisco is her husband Paul’s hometown. The year they moved back, his brother Ron was on the board of supervisors. They lived down the street from San Francisco mayor Joe Alioto.\u003c/p>\n",
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As a reporter, I’ve watched a lot of people rise from San Francisco into the national arena. Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, Dianne Feinstein. But no one has fascinated me more than Nancy Pelosi, trailblazer, power broker, lightning rod, first woman ever speaker of the house. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Tonight on Express, the campaigning has been intense. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: I remember watching her way back in 1987. That was the first time she was running for Congress here in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: We do have 14 candidates here, so can we keep this discussion on an even scale? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: This is from a televised debate hosted here at KQED, the public media outlet where I work. All the candidates are sitting on risers, lots of poofy, teased hair, wide-framed glasses, and Pelosi is in the front row, perfect blowout, wearing a purple blazer. 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I’ve done it many times before, usually about a political issue. She’s always warm and gracious until you ask something that annoys her and then she lets you know it.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: I don’t feel that way at all. I don’t even know why you’re asking that question. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She can be loyal to her talking points. Frustrating. How do you want people to remember your legacy?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Not so fast on the legacy. We have to win the house, which we will do. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She’ll completely deny the premise of your question. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: No, I didn’t oppose it for many years. I posed it when they suggested it, and then Kalka said they won it and I supported it.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: But I figured this is the time, right now, before she leaves office, to really reckon with the force that is Nancy Pelosi. From KQED, this is The Speaker, how Nancy Pelosi changed the face of power. This is the inside story of her rise and what she did when she got there, as told by the people who were in the rooms where it all happened.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Anna Eshoo: Nancy always would talk about winning and how to win. I said, Mr. President, we’re so excited about doing health care, but understand this, it’s going to be carpet bombing, take no prisoners, you name it, total warfare.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Rahm Emanuel: She is comfortable with power and exercising it. Nancy exists in the arena. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mick Mulvaney: I’ve often described it with a little bit tongue-in-cheek, because I’m not going to accuse anybody. I want to make clear here that I’m not slandering anybody, I’m not accusing anybody of any criminal activity, but she reminded me of a mafia boss. That’s how she ran the place.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: They were going to get a bullet in my effing brain. You know, they used the F word a lot about me throughout the whole thing. They were gonna hang Vice President Gallows for him.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Today, how Nancy Pelosi got to Congress. She had been the ultimate insider, working for years as a high-up official in the Democratic Party, forged by San Francisco politics. But also an outsider, a woman, a mother of five kids, behind the scenes. Had you not ever considered running with her?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: I had zero interest in running for office. Why? It was like, did you not want to go skydiving? I didn’t even think of it. I loved public service, and I was the ultimate volunteer, the chair of the California Democratic Party.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: There she was, diligently working behind the scenes, until a twist of fate tested what she was made of. Nancy Pelosi never planned to run for public office, but in 1987, San Francisco’s congresswoman, Sala Burton, was dying. She was a big woman. She was, like, shrunk up on cancer. That’s John Burton, Sala’s brother-in-law, part of the family’s political operation. Let me set the scene here. The congresswoman is on her deathbed. She hasn’t yet endorsed a successor, but her endorsement is priceless. Her family has held this seat since the \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>John Burton: She calls the group of us back to her hospital bed, where she’s just like, and she tells us, I’m not going to run again. I’d like you to support Nancy Pelosi. She starts going into Nancy Pelosi, she’s operational. She’s right on the issue. She says, she said, he said, and I walk out, she says, is she bullshitting or what?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: John Burton didn’t see Nancy Pelosi as a candidate. She was the Democratic fundraiser, organizer, behind the scenes. But Sawa saw it.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>John Burton: Something else. She saw in Nancy Pelosi a tough, strong, determined, liberal, caring for people person. I mean, it was just, I walked out and I said, holy my God. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: She said to me, I’m going to ask you if you will run for my seat, and I need to know your answer now.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi told Salah she had to check with her family first. She had five kids. By 1987, only one was still living at home.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: My daughter Alexandra, she says, mother, what teenage girl does not want her mother out of the house three nights of the week? Then she said, get a life.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Maybe her youngest daughter didn’t really see it, but Pelosi definitely had a life. She moved her family to San Francisco in 1969, just a couple years after the Summer of Love, a time when the city was home to artists like Janis Joplin and the Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane. Pelosi was hardly a member of the counterculture, but insists she loves the Gratiful Dead. For those first few years, she had her hands full with the kids.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Especially, I have five and six years to have to understand. Sometimes I didn’t even wash my face. Being a mom is probably the best preparation for anything because you are multitasking all of the time.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: But politics was in her DNA. She’d grown up in a political family. Her dad became the mayor of Baltimore when she was just seven. San Francisco is her husband Paul’s hometown. The year they moved back, his brother Ron was on the board of supervisors. They lived down the street from San Francisco mayor Joe Alioto.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: When people came and saw our house, they would say, oh, this is a big house. We’ll have lots of political events here.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: And you did.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: And we did. How do you turn people down then? And my kids were so cute as they were getting a little bit bigger, they were making the hors d’oeuvres and serving the hors-d’oeuves and the rest of that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She started taking on more political stuff, organizing volunteers, hosting candidates in her home, raising money. She became a prolific fundraiser for Democratic candidates. In 1976, California Governor Jerry Brown decided to run for president. A left coast challenge to Jimmy Carter.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Jerry Brown: Ten years of problems in Vietnam and Watergate and all the scandals you read about in the FBI and the CIA. I think people, I think the people are ready for a new generation of leadership.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Brown entered the race pretty late in the game, but Pelosi used her Baltimore political connections to help him win Maryland’s Democratic primary. Here’s another candidate, Barbara Mikulski. Pelosi helped her win a Senate seat.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Barbara Mikulski: [00:09:44] I was out there going earring to earring with Linda Chavez. She had Ronald Reagan, and I had Nancy Pelosi.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: By 1981, Pelosi was chair of the California Democratic Party, in charge of getting Democrats elected all across the state. She had a reputation for being relentless, but she was also known for her personal touch. When Nancy talked to you, you felt like you were the center of the world. That’s Art Agnos, a former mayor of San Francisco and also, by the way, my ex-boss. I worked on his staff from 1986 to 1992. That was before I became a reporter for KQED in 1998. Anyway, Art remembers going over to Pelosi’s house for dinner back in the 70s. He was just a staffer himself back then. She invited us to her home for dinner with Leo, who was the main person. Art’s talking about Leo McCarthy. McCarthy was the speaker of the state assembly. That’s California’s version of the House of Representatives. She made sure that… \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Art Agnos: I brought my kids? No one ever said bring your kids. Pelosi even had her kids babysitting his kids, taking them upstairs to the bedroom, playing games. Her kids are taking care of my kids. I was the staff guy. She generated a kind of loyalty and love from my family that came from her attentive, thoughtful, sweet interest in us.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: This is what Sala Burton saw in Nancy Pelosi, according to Art.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Sala Burton anointed Nancy Pelosi to be her successor. After she died on February 1st, there would be a primary just two months later, in April, to pick the top candidate for each party. So now the race was on. Sala’s brother-in-law, John Burton, would run Pelosi’s campaign and they would use the Burton playbook.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Phil Burton: No person is an island under themselves. We all need each other and we’ve got each other, I promise you that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: That’s Phil Burton, John’s older brother, Sal’s husband, a chain-smoking giant in San Francisco politics. The Burton political machine specialized in something that seems pretty standard today — coalition politics. They mobilized groups other politicians overlooked. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Their coalition was gay. It wasn’t LGBT as it is today, but you know, it was, it wasn’t called that. Gay, African-American, labor.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Phil Burton put it a little differently.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Phil Burton: I’ve got the support of the gays and the cops as well, ain’t that a bitch? \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Willie Brown: We ran everything at that day’s game. We were the most diverse operation politically in this city, period. And Nancy was a part of that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: That’s another former San Francisco mayor.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Willie Brown: I’m Willie Brown, period. I was part of Phil Burton’s operation. What do you remember about her? Well, I just remember that she was a very attractive woman. Oh, very opinionated, I must say.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She sort of had an unlikely friendship with John, who once accidentally left cocaine in the pocket of a suit he sent to the dry cleaners.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Willie Brown: In the drinking world. John was all the things that you wouldn’t even think Nancy would know about. But they had a friendship.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Close with the Burtons, raised campaign funds for them, but she also helped their rivals within the party.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Willie Brown: I’m telling you.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She had her whole body in both camps.” Her campaign chose the slogan, a voice that will be heard. Her campaign promised all the other candidates could talk, but with her connections and her experience, she would be the most effective at doing things in Congress. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Willie Brown: It was not like she was going to be the next Jesse Jackson. No, Nancy was the pro who was going to help orchestrate the process.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: She pulled together a team of field captains who had experience with the United Farm Workers Union to set up her ground game. An army of volunteers knocked on doors, made phone calls, staffed campaign events and signed up other volunteers to get out the vote on election day. At one point, Pelosi’s brother Tommy came to visit campaign headquarters in San Francisco. He’d been the mayor of Baltimore just like their father.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: And he said, Daddy sent me to make sure that you had your ground game in place. So I said, well, come see what it is.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: On sheets of butcher paper, Pelosi and her team had mapped out the strategy in true Burton fashion. They had divided up the city into factions and were seeing how they could make a winning coalition, gaming out worst-case scenarios.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Every black vote, Asian, gay vote, the lefties, if we give them every possible vote, not that they would get every possible, Nancy loses by a couple thousand votes. We have sent our troops out to get 5,000 more votes.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Their team sent targeted mailers to different communities—Italian, African American, gay—and they quietly slipped some to Republicans. John Burton again. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>John Burton: I’d go to things with her, go to that, and just watch her. One time some group was kind of screwing over her and walked out and she says, don’t worry, we will show them how truly unimportant they are after the election.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: But, she wasn’t going to take a single vote for granted. Before she ran for the House in 1987, Pelosi had run in one other election inside the party for chair of the Democratic National Committee. That’s the group that coordinates strategy, establishes the Democratic Party platform. She lost. And she learned a lesson she never forgot.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: I had done everything in the party and worked with many people. People that I had worked with forever were making terrible statements about me.\u003cbr>\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi said she was the target of all sorts of attacks, including sexist ones. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: So when I ran for Congress, and people would call me and say, did you see what someone so said? I said, yeah, don’t bother me with that. If you’re concerned about that, get on the phone and make some calls, walk some precincts, but don’t think I care about what somebody else says. And I would not have realized that had I not seen how Democrats treated Democrats when I run for the other office.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Democrats against Democrats, a knife fight in a phone booth. That’s what Pelosi was entering in the primary. Against a motivated opponent fighting for a city reeling from a deadly epidemic.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Where did it go?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: This is an old news clip from 1987. A singer charms a crowd with a famous Judy Garland cover.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Politics in San Francisco, a fundraiser in a cabaret that caters to gays. At this event, the candidate is gay as well, Democrat Harry Britt.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The bar is packed with gay and lesbian supporters. The sign at the door reads, We’re just wild about Harry Britt.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: While he would be a political outsider elsewhere in the country with his progressive agenda, he fits in easily in San Francisco. Liberal credentials are essential. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Harry Britt was a San Francisco supervisor and Nancy Pelosi’s toughest rival. He was soft-spoken, with a serious tone, kind of an intellectual, a little socially awkward. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harry Britt: I’m from Texas and I come from a family of Southerners. I was a Methodist minister for a major part of my life and that was\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: That was Britt in a TV interview. He never intended to run for office. Like Pelosi, he was more behind the scenes. In 1977, he volunteered to help elect Harvey Milk to the board of supervisors. Milk was the first openly gay person elected in California.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harvey Milk: There are 15 million lesbian and gay men waiting to hear your voice! We are coming out of the closet! When are you going to come out of yours?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The next year, Harvey Milk was assassinated, along with the mayor at the time, George Moscone. The killer was Dan White. He had been on the board of supervisors with Milk. A year before he died, Harvey milk made a recording. A list of people he would want to replace him if he were assassinated. And who was on that list?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harvey Milk: The third choice I would have would be Harry Britt, who most people don’t know, but I’ve watched Harry, and Harry’s been involved with three campaigns, and I’ve watched Harry grow and grow and grow, and a very, very dedicated and strong person. One who will not be pushed around. One who understands where the movement is and where it must go. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Harry Britt again.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harry Britt: Harvey’s gone, but all of us who cared about him and the things that he stood for realize now that it’s our job.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Tom Ammiano: The murders unified, made us cohesive, and that translated into political muscle. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Tom Amiano was active in the gay rights movement, friends with Harvey Milk, and Harry.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Tom Ammiano: Harvey was very charismatic and out there, and Harry was just a steady, even presence.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: In the early 80s, the community was still reeling from the assassinations, and then another deadly threat emerged. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Tom Ammiano: AIDS was rampant. Every day somebody died. Every day you saw somebody with purple splotches or you’d say, hey, what happened to Michael? He was supposed to show. You didn’t hear, he died.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: I moved to San Francisco in 1981, just as some gay men started coming down with some unusual symptoms. Thrush or yeast infections in the throat that wouldn’t go away, fungal infections in the lungs, lesions on the skin, weight loss. Doctors didn’t know why, but soon they were dying. As the casualties mounted, so did the fear. There was no test for the virus yet. We didn’t even know it was a virus. Many of us were worried, afraid we had this ticking time bomb inside of us. But there was nothing to do but be careful and wait. It escalated quickly. By 1984, it became common to see people with full blown AIDS emaciated, looking old beyond their years, covered with purple splotches, Kaposi sarcoma. We’d see men who looked to be at death’s door, slowly walking or shuffling around the Castro neighborhood. There were funerals, lots of funerals, many for people in their 20s, 30s, and 40s. It was a slow motion disaster. But it seemed no one in Washington cared. Harry Britt again. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harry Britt: So I think it’s legitimate for us to point out that the people who care the most about AIDS and certainly the gay community which cares in a passionate way about AIDS is very united behind my candidacy.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: These were the stakes of the 87th Special Election. In that Congressional race, many saw Harry Britt, not Pelosi, as the champion the gay community needed in Washington. It was also a chance to make history.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Gwenn Craig: It was beyond who’s Harry Britt, it was beyond whose Nancy Pelosi. It was that we might get an openly gay member of Congress.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: That’s Gwen Craig. She came to San Francisco in 1975. She worked closely with Milk and would become involved in Harry Britt’s campaign.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Gwenn Craig: The nonchalance, it seemed, of Congress and the executive administrations just was maddening.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The CDC first published an article describing five young gay patients in Los Angeles whose immune systems suddenly failed in 1981. But President Reagan didn’t publicly address the crisis for four years, only then because he was asked about it. By 1987, nearly 2,000 San Franciscans had died of AIDS. I remember a lot of people in the gay community thought that Pelosi, a wealthy, straight, white woman, wasn’t the best person to fight for them in Washington. The Brit campaign didn’t hold back. Here’s one ad they ran.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival Ad: Inspector Riley, Missing Person Squad. Yeah, we’ve heard that report. No, we haven’t seen Nancy Pelosi. That’s why she’s a missing person. Nobody has seen Nancy. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Britt’s campaign sent out mailers calling her a dilettante.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: Most people didn’t know what that meant.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi again. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: And they said, does that mean you’re a debut talent? Aren’t you old to be a debut? They did one piece.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Gwenn Craig: Call that referred to Nancy Pelosi as party girl because she came from being head of the Democratic Party.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Gwen Craig again, Lesbian Activist. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Gwenn Craig: I didn’t like that piece at all.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: What was it that you didn’t like about it?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Gwenn Craig: Well, I thought it was rather misogynist. You know, I though it was sexist. I thought that it belittled her in a way because of her gender. So I became then uncomfortable with my support of Harry for a while after that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: They warned us it would be brutal, and it would a bloodbath, and I’d be sorry I ever got in the race, but I wasn’t frightened by any of that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi did something in 1987 that she rarely does. She agreed to a televised debate a week before the election, right here at KQED. Pelosi was the front-runner. She had a lot to lose.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Nancy Pelosi, a Democratic Party insider, runs ahead in recent polls. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Harry Britt was close on her heels. In addition to being part of the gay movement, he was a democratic socialist. He believed in challenging corporate power structures, and once tried to rein in wealthy landlords with commercial rent control.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: A gay activist who is to the left of his chief opponents. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Just before the debate, Pelosi’s campaign threatened to pull out. Her staff was worried the other candidates would gang up on her.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Calm down a little bit.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: It was a free for all, with all 14 candidates left, right and center. It made for great live television.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Mr. Zur, this is not a forum for you just to make a speech. At this point in this discussion, we are—you’ve got a lot of words in.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The moderators asked if her critics were right, that she was out of touch. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: But there are a lot of people who seem to be disturbed by, I guess, where you come from. The idea of your wealth and your connections among the well-to-do. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: And Harry Britt questioned whether she could be trusted to fight for everyday people.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Harry Britt: How can you be an effective advocate for consumer issues like keeping interest rates low on credit cards when you’ve gotten money from banks and savings and loan associations? How can really fight to get oil companies to clean up toxic waste when you got money from Chevron and Getty and all these people? I challenge Nancy Pelosi who has never had to stand up to that kind of pressure.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Based on available campaign finance records, we couldn’t verify if Pelosi took money from Chevron for her campaign. But members of the influential Getty family, her family friends who made their fortune in oil, did donate $5,000 to her congressional campaign. But Pelosi pointed her finger and returned fire.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Harry, have you taken any PAC money? Have you taken a PAC money. I have not taken any money. Any PAC money, have any you taken PAC money \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Britt’s campaign was mostly grassroots funded, but Pelosi? Her campaign spent around a million dollars, more than the other 13 candidates combined. Pelosi also self-funded, giving more than $200,000 to her own campaign.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: How can she relate to people like me, a single parent, working mother, or somebody else?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Another candidate, San Francisco City Supervisor Carol Rue Silver, jumped in. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Problems are different. She’s never met a payroll. She has never had to worry about child care. She has not had a kid in a public school. She never worried about the things that worry most of the people in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Let’s let Nancy answer.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: First of all, my ability to fund my own campaign to the extent that I can and to raise money over 1,500 contributors to my campaign gives me an independence that none of my candidates, I believe, share, especially the four supervisors who were reported this week to have received $1,000 each from the Embarcadero Center and then voted to give them a street this week. So if you want to talk about independence, let’s talk about Independence.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Pelosi knew that she needed to do something to neutralize the idea that she was beholden to wealthy interests. So she counterpunched by saying to her opponents, well, you’re not exactly pure either. According to federal campaign fundraising data, each of the four city supervisors did receive a thousand dollar contribution from the CEO of the Embarcadero Center. That’s a set of high-rise office buildings downtown. We couldn’t verify the claim that he got a favor in return. But she’s doing something here by implying that. She’s undercutting them. It’s a classic campaign tactic, pointing out the hypocrisy in your opponent’s charge. After the primary, that same CEO gave $1,000 to Pelosi’s campaign for Congress. That’s politics. Pelosi has always argued that the PAC money she took was from Democratic allies who cared about regular people. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: Labor unions, from the Nurses Association, from organizations dedicated to the election of women to Congress.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: To her, raising money was just a means to an end. This was the late 80s. Money was changing politics as we knew it, and Pelosi was going to do everything she needed to do to win. You didn’t take any of that personally.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>KQED 1987 Debate Package: No, I mean it’s a campaign. What do you expect?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival: There was a special election here in San Francisco today to fill a congressional seat left empty by the death of congresswoman Sala Burton.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: As the election got close, Pelosi had dropped in the polls, so election day was a nail-biter. Britt needed a big turnout in the predominantly gay Castro neighborhood, and he got that. But in the end, he could not overcome Pelosi’s ground game.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Archival: And here in San Francisco, the Democrat Nancy Pelosi defeated Harry Britt, a city supervisor who is gay.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Under rules for special elections like this one, the top contender from each party would move on to a runoff in June. 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To some lawmakers, White was someone they could help without worrying about attacks by religious zealots who thought AIDS was God’s punishment of gay men and IV drug users. Pelosi understood this. Former San Francisco Mayor Art Agnos again.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Art Agnos: She looked like the all-American woman. She was, she is beautiful. She had lovely kids, she had a handsome husband. What the hell is she doing with these weird people? When she showed up, she looks like us. How come she’s talking like that? And I think that gave her a entree to discussing AIDS, gay people, all the kinds of issues that are important to us in San Francisco. They listened because she looked like them.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The Ryan White Care Act passed in 1990. It created a financial safety net for people with HIV who were underinsured. 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And I thought, that’s magic.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: Mike Shriver lives with HIV.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: I relied on Ryan White funding for my care and for my dental care and had I not had that, I would not have had access to the drugs that eventually had become what continue to keep me alive and keep me in remission with my HIV disease.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: So you’re saying she’s the reason you’re still here?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: I absolutely believe that.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: There’s this one thing Mike told me that really stuck with me. He was telling me about a text exchange he had with Nancy after a health emergency in 2022.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Mike Shriver: I had just emailed her the day before talking about finishing my IVIG infusion, which took five consecutive days, which just flattened me out. And she wrote back, Michael, loved getting your promising report. Love you, Nancy. 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I think they’ve heard us. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: It took nearly 20 years, but Pelosi was on a path to becoming the first woman ever elected House Speaker. Next time on the speaker.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nancy Pelosi: I don’t see a plan here to win.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Rahm Emanuel: If you win, you get to set the table. Nancy Pelosi’s path to the top. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Barbara Boxer: One of those days on the plane, we were talking about, what is your dream in politics? And she said, I want to be Speaker of the House.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: You had to have some chutzpah at that point in her career to say I want to be speaker.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Barbara Boxer: Chutzpah doesn’t begin to describe it. It was impossible.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Scott Shafer: The Speaker is a production of KQED in San Francisco and distributed by NPR. It’s hosted and reported by me, Scott Shafer. Co-reported and produced by Ariella Markowitz. It’s edited by Padmini Raghunath. Final mix and sound design by Christopher Beale. Additional mixing by Brendan Willard. Fact checking by Mark Betancourt. Additional editing from Anna Sussman and Jen Chien, KQED’s director of podcasts. Original theme song composed by Cedric Wilson. Additional music from APM. Maha Sanad is KQED’s podcast engagement producer. Ethan Toven-Lindsey is KQED’s editor-in-chief. Special thanks to our partners from the Oral History Center at the University of California, Berkeley. Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by the Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television, and radio artists, San Francisco, Northern California Local. \u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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That’s really been sitting with me throughout this case,” said Renee Coe, who filmed police in riot gear breaking up the June block party when she was arrested. “It’s not really about these individual charges against us, but just the fact that the city is choosing to attack queer people during Pride weekend, while [it] advertises itself as a sanctuary.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The San Francisco District Attorney’s Office did not respond to a request for comment Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1303\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/160719_The-Stud-Bar_bhs05.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12099746\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/160719_The-Stud-Bar_bhs05.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/160719_The-Stud-Bar_bhs05-160x109.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/160719_The-Stud-Bar_bhs05-1536x1042.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Patrons of The Stud Bar mingle outside. 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"content": "\n\u003cp>When a patient comes into Dr. Miguel San Miguel Benavides’ exam room at \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/san-francisco-general-hospital\">San Francisco General Hospital\u003c/a> with a cough, a rash, diabetes or high blood pressure, he knows where to start. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But over the past year, people have been bringing him a problem he feels less equipped to tackle as a primary care physician: their fear over immigration enforcement. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Among other actions, the Trump administration has rolled back protections keeping immigration agents away from healthcare facilities and sought to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kff.org/immigrant-health/potential-implications-of-the-new-medicaid-data-sharing-agreement-between-cms-and-ice/\">give ICE access to Medicaid data\u003c/a>. Since then, San Miguel and colleagues at SF General who work with immigrant patients say they’ve watched with a sense of powerlessness as people avoid or delay treatment, and as mounting stress exacerbates their underlying conditions.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://phr.org/news/ice-tactics-and-deportation-fears-limit-access-to-health-care-for-children-of-immigrants-survey/\">2025 survey\u003c/a> of healthcare workers who serve immigrants echoes that experience: Among hundreds of respondents across 30 states, 84% said patient visits were down substantially; many said their ability to provide preventive care and manage chronic conditions suffered.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-5-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12097362\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-5-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-5-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-5-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Miguel San Miguel Benavides, a resident physician at the Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital, poses for a portrait at the hospital on Aug. 26, 2026. (Gina Castro for KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Now, a small study from UCSF suggests that immigration policies can force some doctors to practice in a way that’s at odds with their sense of moral or professional duty, taking a toll on them. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The experience has become routine for San Miguel as he finishes his residency.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“This is the type of care that I always wanted to give,” he said of working with patients who, like him, immigrated to this country. “But I think part of that has become realizing that the amount of support we can give isn’t necessarily enough.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Researchers call that kind of ethical conflict “\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2012/11/21/165663154/moral-injury-the-psychological-wounds-of-war\">moral injury\u003c/a>,” a term coined by a Department of Veterans Affairs psychiatrist working with Vietnam War veterans.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Dr. Marlene Martín, a UCSF clinical medicine professor, was inspired to do the study last summer, around the time ICE was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12049326/as-ice-operations-expand-how-are-immigrant-allies-responding\">conducting widespread raids\u003c/a> in Los Angeles. A colleague who works with immigrant patients told her no one had shown up to their appointment that day at SF General. If that was happening in San Francisco, where there was relatively little high-profile ICE activity at the time, Martín wondered what doctors elsewhere were seeing. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>So she and her colleagues interviewed 38 primary care doctors in 13 states about their experiences caring for immigrant patients in this climate. They recently published their findings \u003ca href=\"https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2851433\">in JAMA Internal Medicine\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The interviews confirmed that doctors across the country were seeing patients miss appointments, with some suffering more from chronic diseases as their treatment lapsed. For instance, Martín said, one interviewee described a patient whose diabetes had spiraled out of control because his son, who’d been driving him to his appointments, had been arrested by ICE. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“You can’t fix that,” she said. “You can’t address that in a clinical visit.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Some doctors told the researchers they were afraid to even ask their patients how they were doing, “because it would open this whole topic that they didn’t know how to answer. They didn’t know how to make it better,” Martín said. “In medicine we’re used to being able to address things that patients are talking about and to help them get better.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>One doctor described to researchers the kind of dilemmas they face, given fears about encountering immigration agents in hospitals: “Would I rather have [my patient] be at home while they’re having substernal, crushing chest pain vs. what are the costs and benefits of going [to the hospital]?” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1350\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-10-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12097364\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-10-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-10-KQED-160x108.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-10-KQED-1536x1037.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital and Trauma Center on Aug. 26, 2026. (Gina Castro for KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In some cases, the interviewees reported their clinics had stopped accepting undocumented patients altogether, for fear of losing federal funding. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Those experiences, day after day, are what can lead to moral injury.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>What surprised study co-author Dr. Alicia Fernandez was how much doctors changed the way they practiced in response to immigration policy changes. “What we saw was many physicians and practices, entire practices, altering their patterns of care,” the UCSF professor and SF General primary care doctor said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Some transitioned to telehealth appointments. Others switched medications so patients didn’t have to go into the clinic or pharmacy as often. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But Fernandez said the changes can come at a cost — both for the patients and the doctors who care for them. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1421\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-8-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12097363\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-8-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-8-KQED-160x114.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-8-KQED-1536x1091.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Miguel San Miguel Benavides, a resident physician at the Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital, and Alicia Fernandez, a UCSF professor and general internist at SF General, talk at the hospital on Aug. 26, 2026. (Gina Castro for KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We definitely feel that our patients are getting worse, and we feel that the care that we are giving is an inferior form of care, and that’s why it’s associated with moral distress,” Fernandez said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>She points to a recent experience with an undocumented patient who’d avoided being seen out of fear. “He came in already having damage from his diabetes,” she said. “That’s a terrible feeling.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>This kind of distress isn’t just bad for individual doctors. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Moral injury can contribute to burnout,” said Dr. Robert Pearl, a physician and Stanford professor who served as CEO of the Permanente Medical Group for nearly two decades. And data show burnout affects doctors’ quality of care.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“If the patient before you required all this extra work, has had this added fear, had all these challenges,” he said, referencing the study, “when the clinician sees you, he or she may not be as good and sharp as you would like them to be.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-11_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12099231\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-11_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-11_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-11_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Individuals walk towards the Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital and Trauma Center on Aug. 26, 2026. 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That has broad implications given that almost half of the country’s internal medicine doctors are foreign-born, according to \u003ca href=\"https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2852745?guestAccessKey=da3ba888-5ff2-456f-9d94-b301cf5d2884&utm_source=for_the_media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_term=081226\">a study\u003c/a> released last month. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>While the UCSF study on moral injury is small and qualitative, it points to ways healthcare institutions can support staff in an increasingly difficult environment. Doctors whose clinics protected patients’ immigration-related information and expanded telehealth, for example, described ways those changes helped them care for patients.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>A sense of powerlessness contributed to the moral distress doctors in the study felt. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>When a patient comes into Dr. Miguel San Miguel Benavides’ exam room at \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/san-francisco-general-hospital\">San Francisco General Hospital\u003c/a> with a cough, a rash, diabetes or high blood pressure, he knows where to start. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But over the past year, people have been bringing him a problem he feels less equipped to tackle as a primary care physician: their fear over immigration enforcement. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Among other actions, the Trump administration has rolled back protections keeping immigration agents away from healthcare facilities and sought to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kff.org/immigrant-health/potential-implications-of-the-new-medicaid-data-sharing-agreement-between-cms-and-ice/\">give ICE access to Medicaid data\u003c/a>. Since then, San Miguel and colleagues at SF General who work with immigrant patients say they’ve watched with a sense of powerlessness as people avoid or delay treatment, and as mounting stress exacerbates their underlying conditions.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://phr.org/news/ice-tactics-and-deportation-fears-limit-access-to-health-care-for-children-of-immigrants-survey/\">2025 survey\u003c/a> of healthcare workers who serve immigrants echoes that experience: Among hundreds of respondents across 30 states, 84% said patient visits were down substantially; many said their ability to provide preventive care and manage chronic conditions suffered.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-5-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12097362\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-5-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-5-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-5-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Miguel San Miguel Benavides, a resident physician at the Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital, poses for a portrait at the hospital on Aug. 26, 2026. (Gina Castro for KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Now, a small study from UCSF suggests that immigration policies can force some doctors to practice in a way that’s at odds with their sense of moral or professional duty, taking a toll on them. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The experience has become routine for San Miguel as he finishes his residency.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“This is the type of care that I always wanted to give,” he said of working with patients who, like him, immigrated to this country. “But I think part of that has become realizing that the amount of support we can give isn’t necessarily enough.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Researchers call that kind of ethical conflict “\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2012/11/21/165663154/moral-injury-the-psychological-wounds-of-war\">moral injury\u003c/a>,” a term coined by a Department of Veterans Affairs psychiatrist working with Vietnam War veterans.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Dr. Marlene Martín, a UCSF clinical medicine professor, was inspired to do the study last summer, around the time ICE was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12049326/as-ice-operations-expand-how-are-immigrant-allies-responding\">conducting widespread raids\u003c/a> in Los Angeles. A colleague who works with immigrant patients told her no one had shown up to their appointment that day at SF General. If that was happening in San Francisco, where there was relatively little high-profile ICE activity at the time, Martín wondered what doctors elsewhere were seeing. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>So she and her colleagues interviewed 38 primary care doctors in 13 states about their experiences caring for immigrant patients in this climate. They recently published their findings \u003ca href=\"https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2851433\">in JAMA Internal Medicine\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The interviews confirmed that doctors across the country were seeing patients miss appointments, with some suffering more from chronic diseases as their treatment lapsed. For instance, Martín said, one interviewee described a patient whose diabetes had spiraled out of control because his son, who’d been driving him to his appointments, had been arrested by ICE. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“You can’t fix that,” she said. “You can’t address that in a clinical visit.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Some doctors told the researchers they were afraid to even ask their patients how they were doing, “because it would open this whole topic that they didn’t know how to answer. They didn’t know how to make it better,” Martín said. “In medicine we’re used to being able to address things that patients are talking about and to help them get better.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>One doctor described to researchers the kind of dilemmas they face, given fears about encountering immigration agents in hospitals: “Would I rather have [my patient] be at home while they’re having substernal, crushing chest pain vs. what are the costs and benefits of going [to the hospital]?” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1350\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-10-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12097364\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-10-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-10-KQED-160x108.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-10-KQED-1536x1037.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital and Trauma Center on Aug. 26, 2026. (Gina Castro for KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In some cases, the interviewees reported their clinics had stopped accepting undocumented patients altogether, for fear of losing federal funding. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Those experiences, day after day, are what can lead to moral injury.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>What surprised study co-author Dr. Alicia Fernandez was how much doctors changed the way they practiced in response to immigration policy changes. “What we saw was many physicians and practices, entire practices, altering their patterns of care,” the UCSF professor and SF General primary care doctor said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Some transitioned to telehealth appointments. Others switched medications so patients didn’t have to go into the clinic or pharmacy as often. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>But Fernandez said the changes can come at a cost — both for the patients and the doctors who care for them. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1421\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-8-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12097363\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-8-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-8-KQED-160x114.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/08/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-8-KQED-1536x1091.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Miguel San Miguel Benavides, a resident physician at the Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital, and Alicia Fernandez, a UCSF professor and general internist at SF General, talk at the hospital on Aug. 26, 2026. (Gina Castro for KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We definitely feel that our patients are getting worse, and we feel that the care that we are giving is an inferior form of care, and that’s why it’s associated with moral distress,” Fernandez said. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>She points to a recent experience with an undocumented patient who’d avoided being seen out of fear. “He came in already having damage from his diabetes,” she said. “That’s a terrible feeling.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>This kind of distress isn’t just bad for individual doctors. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Moral injury can contribute to burnout,” said Dr. Robert Pearl, a physician and Stanford professor who served as CEO of the Permanente Medical Group for nearly two decades. And data show burnout affects doctors’ quality of care.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“If the patient before you required all this extra work, has had this added fear, had all these challenges,” he said, referencing the study, “when the clinician sees you, he or she may not be as good and sharp as you would like them to be.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-11_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12099231\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-11_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-11_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/20260826_UCSFStudy_GC-11_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Individuals walk towards the Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital and Trauma Center on Aug. 26, 2026. 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(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We remember when the towers fell, and the lives were lost,” said Rev. Staci Current, pastor of Temple United Methodist Church in San Francisco, speaking at an event in the city’s Presidio. “We remember the dust, the despair, the smoke, the grief. We remember this sense of vulnerability and shock. We remember that numbness that overwhelmed us as we watched our screen for hours and hours waiting for explanation or understanding that never came. We remember.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Katie Miller, a veteran and an ambassador for the Heart and Armor Foundation for Veterans Health, was a sophomore in high school when the towers went down. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“I remember very specifically walking into my parents’ room, and the news was on, and my dad said, ‘We’re going to war.’I think back to it now and that day changed the entire course of my life,” said Miller, who joined the military as soon as she graduated from college and served in the U.S. Navy for 10 years. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In the aftermath of the attacks, Miller said she felt a sense of “true patriotism.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“It just felt like everyone was together and we all had a common bond,” Miller said. “I think grief does that to people in many different ways.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In the South Bay, residents and officials planned to hold an event on Friday at 6:45 p.m. before the Los Gatos High School varsity football game at Helm Field, 20 High School Court. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Friday marks 25 years since the terrorist attacks on \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/911\">Sept. 11\u003c/a> changed a nation.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Nearly 3,000 people were killed. It also changed an untold number of lives. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Each year, Masanao Morimoto wears a shirt honoring Mark Bingham, a friend from the UC Berkeley rugby team, who attempted to take back United Airlines Flight 93 from the hijackers before it crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“There are people in our lives who support us, and maybe we don’t appreciate how much they support us, or how much they impact our lives, until they’re gone,” Morimoto said, describing Bingham as a jokester and a steadfast teammate. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>On Friday, officials, interfaith leaders and residents across the Bay Area gathered to honor the lives lost on 9/11, the communities forever transformed and the veterans who served in the wars that followed in its wake. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/091126_911_25YearsOn_GH_008.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12099245\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/091126_911_25YearsOn_GH_008.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/091126_911_25YearsOn_GH_008-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/091126_911_25YearsOn_GH_008-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A San Francisco officer looks toward the stage during a ceremony marking the 25th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks at the Presidio’s Main Post in San Francisco on Sept. 11, 2026. (Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“We remember when the towers fell, and the lives were lost,” said Rev. Staci Current, pastor of Temple United Methodist Church in San Francisco, speaking at an event in the city’s Presidio. “We remember the dust, the despair, the smoke, the grief. We remember this sense of vulnerability and shock. We remember that numbness that overwhelmed us as we watched our screen for hours and hours waiting for explanation or understanding that never came. We remember.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Katie Miller, a veteran and an ambassador for the Heart and Armor Foundation for Veterans Health, was a sophomore in high school when the towers went down. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“I remember very specifically walking into my parents’ room, and the news was on, and my dad said, ‘We’re going to war.’I think back to it now and that day changed the entire course of my life,” said Miller, who joined the military as soon as she graduated from college and served in the U.S. Navy for 10 years. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In the aftermath of the attacks, Miller said she felt a sense of “true patriotism.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“It just felt like everyone was together and we all had a common bond,” Miller said. “I think grief does that to people in many different ways.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>In the South Bay, residents and officials planned to hold an event on Friday at 6:45 p.m. before the Los Gatos High School varsity football game at Helm Field, 20 High School Court. The event will honor high school alumni Bingham and Todd Beamer, who were also on Flight 93 and took part in the passenger revolt against the hijackers. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The event will include a military jet flyover, recognition of their families and a newly relocated 9/11 memorial plaque. Rep. Sam Liccardo, D-San José, and Los Gatos Mayor Rob Moore are scheduled to speak.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Bingham, Beamer and Flight 11 flight attendant Betty Ann Ong were among the Bay Area victims of the attacks. But the ripple effects were felt across the region. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Army veteran Andre Rogers spoke on Friday about how finding ways to serve his community after leaving the military helped him adjust to civilian life. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Serving as a civilian has been good for my soul. Purpose helps me heal. Even when you are tired, discouraged, doing something for others always makes life feel better,” Rogers said. “It’s better to give blessings than to receive them.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/091126_911_25YearsOn_GH_012.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12099246\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/091126_911_25YearsOn_GH_012.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/091126_911_25YearsOn_GH_012-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/091126_911_25YearsOn_GH_012-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi poses for a photo with Vietnam War veteran Mickey Kwok during a ceremony marking the 25th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks at the Presidio’s Main Post in San Francisco on Sept. 11, 2026. (Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Kashif Abdullah, a veteran and the principal of the San Francisco Islamic School, described the ways that 9/11 changed life in America for Muslims, many of whom experienced a wave of Islamophobia after the attacks and the subsequent “War on Terror.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“As the principal of an Islamic school, the only one in the city, I must also acknowledge that our students inherited a different part of the 911 story,” Abdullah said. “Muslim Americans experienced suspicion, discrimination and hatred after the attacks.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Abdullah emphasized the importance of remembering these events in their entirety, because learning about the attacks and their aftermath “teaches us what can happen when fear becomes stronger than our commitment to one another.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“That may be one of the greatest lessons of Sept. 11,” Abdullah said. “Do not allow fear to decide who your neighbor is. 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This week, New York City officials \u003ca href=\"https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/09/25-years-later--mamdani-administration-opens-city-s-9-11-records\">released \u003c/a>previously sealed records documenting air quality concerns after 9/11.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Crispen, whose team spent almost a week on the “pile” — the massive heap of scrap metal at Ground Zero — said several of the folks who went with him can’t attend one of San Francisco’s 9/11 memorials on Friday because of lung issues and other health problems.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/WorldTradeCenterNYGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12099120\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/WorldTradeCenterNYGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/WorldTradeCenterNYGetty-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/WorldTradeCenterNYGetty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">People walk past One World Trade Center and the Freedom Tower in Lower Manhattan on Sept. 10, 2026, in New York City, ahead of the 25th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. 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How did you get deployed?\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dean Crispen:\u003c/strong> Even before the first tower had collapsed, we decided we were going. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>We had a group of members who had a lot of training in urban search and rescue. We had all just completed some courses on this. We were a little hesitant because we didn’t want to intrude. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>We weren’t sure we were accepted there, but we received nothing but positive feedback saying, ‘Come here as soon as you can. Bring your turnouts and your dress uniform.’ \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>At first we were taken aback by what the dress uniform piece was. 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This week, New York City officials \u003ca href=\"https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/09/25-years-later--mamdani-administration-opens-city-s-9-11-records\">released \u003c/a>previously sealed records documenting air quality concerns after 9/11.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Crispen, whose team spent almost a week on the “pile” — the massive heap of scrap metal at Ground Zero — said several of the folks who went with him can’t attend one of San Francisco’s 9/11 memorials on Friday because of lung issues and other health problems.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/WorldTradeCenterNYGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12099120\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/WorldTradeCenterNYGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/WorldTradeCenterNYGetty-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/09/WorldTradeCenterNYGetty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">People walk past One World Trade Center and the Freedom Tower in Lower Manhattan on Sept. 10, 2026, in New York City, ahead of the 25th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. 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"content": "\n\u003cp>Blasting the “rent emergency” driving up evictions across \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/san-francisco\">San Francisco\u003c/a>, Mayor Daniel Lurie announced a $30 million package of reforms on Thursday morning to keep families in their homes. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Today, most San Franciscans feel our city is finally moving in the right direction, but many are also asking whether they can still afford to live here,” Lurie said in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.sf.gov/news-mayor-lurie-unveils-sweeping-package-with-immediate-actions-to-address-san-franciscos-rent-emergency\">statement\u003c/a> memorializing the \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/live/SLkYNFthvlo\">speech\u003c/a> he gave this morning in the city’s Alamo Square Park. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Signs of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12098307/the-price-of-raising-kids-in-the-bay\">affordability crisis in San Francisco\u003c/a> are everywhere. According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.apartmentlist.com/research/national-rent-data\">new data\u003c/a> from online rental service Apartment List, the city led the nation in “fastest year-over-year rent growth,” at 11%. San José, it should be noted, is in second place at 7.9% growth.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Citing the wave of high-paying tech jobs and ensuing housing frenzy \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12097632/chatbots-data-centers-and-surveillance-5-silicon-valley-bills-land-on-newsoms-desk\">sparked by the AI boom\u003c/a>, the company said that San Francisco rents are up a \u003ca href=\"https://www.apartmentlist.com/rent-report/ca/san-francisco\">staggering\u003c/a> 25.6% in just the last year — numbers that it said are “far outpacing all other markets in the country.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“It is absolutely an emergency,” Meg Heisler, policy director San Francisco Anti-Displacement Coalition, said in an interview Thursday with KQED, underscoring the need for “enforcement that reflects the gravity of the crisis we’re in.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1391\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/GettyImages-2250030108-scaled-e1789077751622.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12078788\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">An apartment for rent sign hangs outside of an apartment building on Dec. 4, 2025, in San Francisco, California. (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“But we also know that most tenants are forced out before they ever get to court,” Heisler said, pointing to harassment, eviction threats and illegal rent increases. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“That is a whole universe of things that we think need to be addressed in addition to any proposals put forward today,” she added.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>San Francisco already \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11971908/as-california-evictions-boom-whether-tenants-get-lawyers-depends-on-where-they-live\">provides an attorney\u003c/a> to all tenants facing eviction, but the reform package that Lurie announced on Thursday earmarks $3 million to expand the right to counsel for 400 San Francisco households who previously would have received only partial representation, according to the city’s announcement.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Compared with those who receive “limited-scope representation,” Lurie’s office said tenants who receive “full-scope legal representation were 39% more likely to remain in their homes.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Another tack of the new reforms addresses discriminatory or other illegal renting practices, something City Attorney David Chiu laid out at the press conference with the mayor.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“Everyday San Franciscans cannot afford to live here, and even those paying astronomical rents are getting evicted,” Chiu said in a statement. “This is not sustainable, and renters need help. Our renter protection laws can only help if tenants know about them and they are enforced. My office is bringing a renewed focus on weeding out systemic bad behavior that forces people out of their homes.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>To drive awareness for both tenants and owners of what housing laws mandate, primarily about evictions, the Mayor’s Office of Housing and Community Development is launching a $1 million education campaign.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>District 9 Supervisor Jackie Fielder is behind a new reform aimed at stopping evictions for renters who have fallen only a bit behind on rent. Unless the tenant is one month late or more, the new law would bar their eviction on the basis of nonpayment.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Another prong of the reform package gives a 25% bump to payouts for displaced tenants under the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/117540/the-ellis-act-and-san-francisco-evictions-a-primer\">Ellis Act\u003c/a>, amounting to nearly $3,000 per person.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>For tenant advocates at the San Francisco Anti-Displacement Coalition, however, they want to see the Ellis Act fully repealed, along with \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/costa-hawkins\">Costa Hawkins\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Speaking on KQED’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101915202/sf-renters-face-buyout-offers-and-evictions-as-ai-boom-sends-prices-soaring\">Forum\u003c/a> this week, eviction defense lawyer Tuesday Thornton said that the Ellis Act “incentivizes landlords to empty out buildings and essentially convert rent-controlled units to housing for the rich.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/260622-SF-CHINATOWN-TENANT-RALLY-MD-08-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12088408\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/260622-SF-CHINATOWN-TENANT-RALLY-MD-08-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/260622-SF-CHINATOWN-TENANT-RALLY-MD-08-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/06/260622-SF-CHINATOWN-TENANT-RALLY-MD-08-KQED-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">People rally in front of 1120 Jackson St. in San Francisco to protest evictions and rent hikes proposed by the property’s new owner, on June 22, 2026. (Martin do Nascimento/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“If tenants organize, they can fight,” she said. “They can stay housed for longer, but the Ellis Act does need to be repealed or reformed to stop incentivizing these kinds of evictions.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Lurie billed the tenant-protection package on Thursday as a component of his Family Opportunity Agenda, the two pillars of which are childcare assistance and affordable housing. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Most of the $30 million infusion from the city will go toward filling the gap of \u003ca href=\"https://sfha.org/about/news-updates/end-emergency-housing-voucher-ehv-program\">expiring\u003c/a> federal vouchers that have been a lifeline to more than \u003ca href=\"https://www.sf.gov/data--emergency-housing-vouchers\">900 people\u003c/a> in San Francisco since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. President Donald Trump and his U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development announced that the $5 billion voucher program would expire at the end of 2026, four years earlier than originally envisioned.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Lurie said Thursday that some 650 “extremely low-income households” will benefit now from the $27 million being unlocked by the city’s Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing. \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>The San Francisco Apartment Association, which advocates for landlords, said it has fought with the city in the past over reforms that encroach illegally on state law, and may do so again here.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/01/024_SanFrancisco_Housing_07292021_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12069627\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/01/024_SanFrancisco_Housing_07292021_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/01/024_SanFrancisco_Housing_07292021_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/01/024_SanFrancisco_Housing_07292021_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A “For Rent” sign hangs in the window of an apartment building in Nob Hill in San Francisco on July 29, 2021. 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According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.apartmentlist.com/research/national-rent-data\">new data\u003c/a> from online rental service Apartment List, the city led the nation in “fastest year-over-year rent growth,” at 11%. San José, it should be noted, is in second place at 7.9% growth.\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>Citing the wave of high-paying tech jobs and ensuing housing frenzy \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12097632/chatbots-data-centers-and-surveillance-5-silicon-valley-bills-land-on-newsoms-desk\">sparked by the AI boom\u003c/a>, the company said that San Francisco rents are up a \u003ca href=\"https://www.apartmentlist.com/rent-report/ca/san-francisco\">staggering\u003c/a> 25.6% in just the last year — numbers that it said are “far outpacing all other markets in the country.” \u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cp>“It is absolutely an emergency,” Meg Heisler, policy director San Francisco Anti-Displacement Coalition, said in an interview Thursday with KQED, underscoring the need for “enforcement that reflects the gravity of the crisis we’re in.”\u003c/p>\n\n\n\n\u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1391\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/GettyImages-2250030108-scaled-e1789077751622.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12078788\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">An apartment for rent sign hangs outside of an apartment building on Dec. 4, 2025, in San Francisco, California. 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