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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Updated at 10:56 p.m. ET\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Senators weighing impeachment charges against President Trump spent Thursday firing questions at lawyers as they did the day before, just as the prospect of former national security adviser John Bolton's appearance as a witness continues to stoke speculation. The Senate will enter its next phase Friday — considering whether to allow witnesses and evidence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The president faces two articles of impeachment: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress related to accusations that he held up military aid to Ukraine until the country announced investigations into potential political rival former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Late Thursday, Sen. Susan Collins said she would vote in support of allowing witnesses:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/SenatorCollins/status/1223091529872564225?s=20\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democrats need four Republicans to support their push for witnesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Thursday night at a rally in Des Moines, Iowa, days ahead of the caucuses Monday, President Trump took jabs at House Managers prosecuting him over alleged abuse of office and obstruction of Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Congressional Democrats are consumed with partisan rage and obsessed with a deranged witch hunt hoax,\" said Trump to a booing crowd.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We're having probably the best years we've ever had in the history of our country, and I just got impeached. Can you believe these people? I got impeached. They impeached Trump,\" Trump said. \"That's not gonna work. Watch. Just watch,\" Trump said. \"They want to nullify your ballots, poison our democracy and overthrow the entire system of government. That's not happening.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Roberts Refuses Early Question\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>U.S. Chief Justice John Roberts, presiding over the trial, refused to read a question from Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The presiding officer declines to read the question as submitted,\" Roberts said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is believed that Paul's question would have identified the whistleblower whose complaint sparked the House's impeachment investigation of Trump.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The person's identity is protected by law, and neither Roberts nor Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., want it to be in the official trial record. McConnell had urged senators to be respectful of Roberts, who is supervising the trial as specified in the Constitution while also attempting to keep above the partisan aspects.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11799022\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11799022\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2020/01/ap_20030072534176_custom-0e7bb3e33b8f4d60f55a42a8b14525ead67bf69c-e1580402190880.jpg\" alt=\"In this image from video, House impeachment manager Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., speaks during the impeachment trial in the Senate. Schiff's stance is that "you can't have a fair trial without witnesses."\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1081\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">In this image from video, House impeachment manager Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., speaks during the impeachment trial in the Senate. Schiff's stance is that \"you can't have a fair trial without witnesses.\" \u003ccite>(Senate Television via AP)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>'Madness'\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>House impeachment manager Adam Schiff, D-Calif., took issue with the wide view of presidential powers put forth by Trump attorney Alan Dershowitz on Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response to a question about whether a quid pro quo in the foreign policy arena was ever appropriate, Dershowitz said, \"Every public official that I know believes that his election is in the public interest.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Eric Herschmann, Trump's attorney\"]'Maybe we could even get more done. Let's try something different now. Join us. Join us. One nation, one nation, one people.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He added, \"If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After wide condemnation by Democrats and on social media, Dershowitz said his comments were misinterpreted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Schiff declared, \"That way madness lies, if we are to accept the president essentially can do whatever he wants.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>'Join Us'\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The answer to one question posed by Republican senators must have brought joy to the president's ears. Asked whether the president has the best interests of Americans and their families in mind, Trump attorney Eric Herschmann recited a litany of positive economic statistics in what may have sounded like a Trump reelection ad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There are more than 7 million jobs created since the election. Illegal border crossings are down 78% since May, and 100 miles of the wall have been built. The unemployment rate is the lowest in 50 years,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Turning to the House managers, he concluded, \"Maybe we could even get more done. Let's try something different now. Join us. Join us. One nation, one nation, one people.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqTn2cc91Sc\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Sen. Warren Considers Chief Justice's Position\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., had a sharply worded question for the House managers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"At a time when large majorities of Americans have lost faith in government, does the fact that the chief justice is presiding over an impeachment trial in which Republican senators have thus far refused to allow witnesses or evidence contribute to the loss of legitimacy of the chief justice, the Supreme Court and the Constitution?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schiff answered by first saying, \"The chief justice has presided admirably.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He added that the country \"does deserve a fair trial,\" which, for Democrats, means calling witnesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If they don't get that fair trial, it will just further a cynicism that is corrosive to this institution and to our democracy,\" Schiff said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Acquittal at Hand?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The Senate is expected to finish the 16 hours of written questions on Thursday night. On Friday, the Senate is expected to convene at 1 p.m. ET and have up to four hours of debate — equally divided between the managers and president's counsels — on whether to consider more evidence or witness testimony.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is possible that at the end of that debate (or any time during or thereafter), the Senate will go in to closed session for private deliberation on the witness question. Only in closed deliberation can they speak to one another on the floor. There is no time limit for closed deliberations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the motion to consider more evidence is approved — a 51-vote majority is required — then senators can offer motions on which witnesses and documents they want to subpoena.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A 50-50 tie fails. Technically, the presiding officer, Roberts, could move to break a tie, but he is not expected to insert himself into a political process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the motion fails, there are still any number of procedural motions Democrats could offer, and there is potential for another long series of votes. For example, Democrats could offer motions requesting more time to debate, but these would likely be delaying tactics or protest votes that will not affect the outcome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the lawmakers are done debating all motions, the Senate will then vote on each article of impeachment. Those votes could occur as early as Friday evening. Republicans would like Trump to be acquitted by then, but Democrats are working to recruit enough members to support bringing in witnesses to testify.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That effort is flagging, senators say.\u003cbr>\n[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi\"]'You cannot be acquitted if you don't have a trial. You don't have a trial if you don't have witnesses and documentation.'[/pullquote]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The momentum is clearly in the direction of moving to final judgment on Friday,\" said Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo. \"We still have a couple members who said they want to listen to answers to questions, but that's where the momentum is in the caucus right now.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., tried to walk a tightrope when he gave his assessment on the possibility of bringing in witnesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Probably no,\" Schumer told reporters on Wednesday. \"But is it a decent, good chance? Yes.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Democrats need to persuade at least four Republicans to cross party lines in order to lock in enough votes to subpoena witnesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among the most-discussed potential witness is Bolton, who has drawn attention because of a report in \u003cem>The New York Times\u003c/em> that he wrote in a forthcoming book that the president had directly linked the aid for Ukraine to an investigation of the Bidens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speaking before Thursday's session, Schiff said the Trump administration has \"gone to extraordinary lengths to put a muzzle on John Bolton to avoid calling him as a witness, to avoid letting the American people hear what he has to say.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another House manager, Rep. 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We're going to call witnesses that will turn this into a circus.' It shouldn't be a circus. It should be a fair trial. You can't have a fair trial without witnesses.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some Republicans have been discussing a possible deal involving a witness-for-witness swap, in which Bolton might be exchange for Biden. Sen. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Updated at 9:15 p.m. ET\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As President Trump's legal team pressed the case for acquittal on Monday, they repeatedly made two points: the charges against Trump do not meet the constitution's criteria for impeachment. And if the president is removed from office for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, it will set a \"dangerous\" precedent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You cannot turn conduct that is not impeachable into impeachable conduct simply by using words like quid pro quo,\" said one of Trump's lawyers, Alan Dershowitz, calling the charges \"vague, indefinable.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Said Dershowitz on the impeachment charges sent to the Senate by House Democrats: \"This is a realistic threat to all future presidents.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump's lawyers maintain that the president was legally justified in freezing military assistance to Ukraine and that the case against Trump presented by Democrats in the Senate last week does not constitute a crime and thus cannot trigger removal from office, a notion that has received strenuous skepticism from legal scholars.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most impeachment trial watchers on Monday, however, were following a major development that occurred outside of the Senate chamber.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside id=\"ad-backstage-wrap\" aria-label=\"advertisement\">\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/politics/trump-bolton-book-ukraine.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">report\u003c/a> in \u003cem>The New York Times \u003c/em>about the alleged conversation between Trump and former National Security Adviser John Bolton — contained in a draft of the former national security adviser's book manuscript — shifted the focus to whether senators would vote to call witnesses, including Bolton, as part of the proceedings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report was based on Bolton's forthcoming book, a draft of which had been sent to the White House as part of a standard review process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As speculation grew about whether Republicans would support calling Bolton, Dershowitz referenced the former top Trump official and dismissed the portions of his yet-to-be-published book that have grabbed the headlines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Nothing in the Bolton revelations, even if true, would rise to the level of an abuse of power or an impeachable offense,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two Republican senators, Mitt Romney of Utah and Susan Collins of Maine, said Monday that the revelations about Bolton's book have made it more likely that senators will want to call Bolton to testify.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think it's increasingly likely that other Republicans will join those of us who think we should hear from John Bolton,\" Romney said, noting that he would make his final decision on the issue after hearing from Trump's defense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Collins\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/SenatorCollins/status/1221822472292634625?s=20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> tweeted\u003c/a> that the reports about Bolton's book \"strengthen the case for witnesses and have prompted a number of conversations among my colleagues.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two others who are seen as more open to calling witnesses — Sens. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Lamar Alexander of Tennessee — were tight-lipped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alexander said senators will decide \"to call witnesses or other documents if we needed them after we hear all the arguments.\" Murkowski said in a tweet that while she was \"curious\" about what Bolton had to say, there is \"an appropriate time for us to evaluate whether we need additional information.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jay Sekulow, Trump's personal attorney, argued that the president \"was at all times\" acting under his constitutional and legal authority by withholding aid to Ukraine, saying that Trump's impeachment is about \"deep policy concerns.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ken Starr, the former independent counsel who led the impeachment efforts against President Bill Clinton in 1998 and is now part of Trump's defense team, began his arguments by reciting a history of impeachment and declared, \"Like war, impeachment is hell.\" He said, \"It divides the country like nothing else. Those of us who lived through the Clinton impeachment understand that in a deep and personal way. \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Starr went on to accuse the House of abusing its power by approving article 2, which charges that Trump obstructed Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Here, we have, tragically for the country and, I believe, tragically for the House of Representatives, in article 2 of these impeachment articles, a runaway House,\" Starr said. \"It has run away not only from its long-standing procedures — it has run away from the Constitution's demand of fundamental fairness.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another of Trump's attorneys, Jane Raskin, spoke to defend Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyer who was painted by the House managers as leading a rogue foreign policy operation by pursuing information against former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, as well as pressuring to remove former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Giuliani, said Raskin, was the House's \"colorful distraction,\" and, \"a shiny object designed to distract you.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said the \"House managers may not like his style, you may not like his style. But one might argue, that he is everything that Clarence Darrow said a defense lawyer must be, outrageous, irreverent, blasphemous, a rogue, a renegade.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Later in the afternoon, Trump attorney Pam Bondi, a former Florida attorney general, rose to attack former Vice President Biden and his son Hunter's dealings in Ukraine. The younger Biden was hired to sit on the board of a Ukrainian gas company Burisma at the same time his father was the Obama administration's point man in fighting corruption there. In the infamous July 25th phone call, Trump asked Ukraine's president to \"do us a favor, though\" and investigate the Bidens. The first article of impeachment charges Trump with abusing the power of his office by asking for the investigation in return for releasing nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine. Trump denies any such link was made, though Bolton's book appears to undercut that assertion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bondi said the younger Biden was paid $83,000 a month to sit on the Burisma board, and played a news clip in which Hunter was asked if would have been hired by the firm if his last name wasn't Biden. \"I don't know, I don't know, he responded. Probably not.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>The Push for Witnesses\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Over three days of arguments last week, House impeachment managers \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/01/24/799426878/trump-impeachment-recap-dems-wrap-with-exhortation-to-act\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">outlined their case\u003c/a> that Trump enlisted a foreign power to help him cheat in the 2020 election and then has tried to cover it up. \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/01/18/797600385/read-the-impeachment-managers-response-to-the-senate-impeachment-trial-summons\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">They've said\u003c/a> that the president's conduct is the \"worst nightmare\" of the nation's Framers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump's legal team is facing a mostly sympathetic group of jurors in the Republican-controlled Senate. An acquittal on the two articles of impeachment is all but guaranteed, since the Democratic caucus would need 20 GOP members' support to have the two-thirds majority needed to convict and remove the president.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More up in the air, however, is whether Democrats will be able to recruit enough Republicans to call witnesses for the trial. That vote has a lower threshold than the one required to remove the president from office. At least four GOP senators would have to cross party lines to call witnesses or subpoena documents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In light of the \u003cem>Times'\u003c/em> report on Sunday, Democrats were quick to reiterate that Bolton should testify.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said Monday that the revelations should remove the GOP resistance against witnesses. He said details in the book provide \"further evidence that a large number of people were in the loop\" on Trump's alleged pressure campaign on Ukraine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schumer said there seems to be a \"giant cover-up\" within the White House and added that if Republicans don't vote to call witnesses, including Bolton, \"they are going to be part of the cover-up too.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Angus King, I-Maine, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/01/27/800158076/independent-sen-angus-king-reflects-on-bolton-bombshell\">told NPR\u003c/a> on Monday that up to 10 Republican senators could vote for witnesses following the \u003cem>Times' \u003c/em>report about the Bolton manuscript.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I'm already hearing a number of Republicans who are moving toward voting to at least hear from John Bolton, if not other witnesses,\" he said. When asked if four Republicans would vote for witnesses, he said: \"I think there'll be more. My bold prediction will be five or 10.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the lead impeachment manager, linked testimony from Bolton to the very notion of a fair trial. \"To say we will blind ourselves from a witness who has so clearly relevant testimony to one of the central most serious allegations against the president — I don't see how we can have a fair trial without testimony like that,\" he told reporters on Monday before the White House lawyers continued their arguments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>House Democrats had asked Bolton to testify during the impeachment inquiry but did not issue him a subpoena. The White House had ordered senior officials to not testify.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Any vote on witnesses and new evidence would come after the defense team rests (it has up to 24 hours over three days) and after senators have a chance to ask questions in writing of both House prosecutors and Trump's legal team. The questions will be read out loud by Chief Justice John Roberts, who's presiding over the trial.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Bolton's Manuscript\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>NPR has not seen a draft of the manuscript and cannot vouch for the accuracy of the report on Trump's comments to the former national security adviser. A spokesman for the National Security Council said no one at the White House other than people at the NSC had reviewed Bolton's book.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Ambassador Bolton's manuscript was submitted to the NSC for pre-publication review and has been under initial review by the NSC,\" NSC spokesman John Ullyot said in a statement. \"No White House personnel outside NSC have reviewed the manuscript.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump denied Bolton's account in a series of tweets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I NEVER told John Bolton that the aid to Ukraine was tied to investigations into Democrats, including the Bidens,\" \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1221663763138588672\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">he said\u003c/a>. \"If John Bolton said this,\" Trump continued, \"it was only to sell a book.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1221663763138588672?s=20\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The military assistance and the desired investigations are at the heart of the impeachment proceedings. Democrats say Trump's actions constitute a clear case of abuse of power, with Trump placing his personal interests over the country's. The legal team representing Trump in the Senate trial argues that the president had justifiable concern about corruption in Ukraine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The aid was ultimately released without the inquiries.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>The Constitutional Standard\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Lawyers for the president \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/01/25/799535269/trump-impeachment-recap-white-house-team-vows-to-deflate-dems-case\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">offered a brief glimpse\u003c/a> of their defense Saturday, minimizing the evidence House investigators gathered before the Democratic-led chamber impeached Trump for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat Cipollone, the White House counsel, claimed Democrats' push to remove Trump from office is aimed at overturning the result of the 2016 election and \"tearing up [voters'] ballots\" months before the 2020 election.\u003cbr>\n[aside tag=\"impeachment\" label=\"related coverage\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Sunday, Alan Dershowitz, another member of the defense team, said on \u003cem>Fox News Sunday\u003c/em> that the Democratic-led prosecution does not have a case that passes constitutional muster.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"They completely failed to meet that high constitutional standard, and therefore it would be unconstitutional to remove a president based on the allegations that were made against him,\" Dershowitz said. \"They imposed very stringent criteria for impeachment that haven't been met in this case,\" citing the Founders' standard for impeachment, which is \"treason, bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In December, the House passed \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/12/10/786579846/read-articles-of-impeachment-against-president-trump\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">two articles of impeachment\u003c/a> against Trump: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. The vote for impeachment followed \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/10/28/771287237/trump-impeachment-inquiry-a-guide-to-key-people-facts-and-documents\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">hours of testimony\u003c/a>, in private and in public, with more than a dozen witnesses during the House impeachment inquiry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump's legal team is also expected to take aim at the president's potential political opponent, Joe Biden, and his son Hunter, making the case that Trump had good reason to want Ukrainian investigators to launch criminal probes into \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/09/24/763502822/what-were-the-bidens-doing-in-ukraine-5-questions-answered\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the activities of the Bidens in Ukraine\u003c/a>. (While Joe Biden was vice president, Hunter Biden took a position as board member of a gas company in Ukraine.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The full-throated defense of Trump comes after the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office declared that the president \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/01/16/796806517/trump-broke-the-law-in-freezing-ukraine-funds-watchdog-report-concludes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">broke the law\u003c/a> in ordering a hold on nearly $400 million in security assistance to Ukraine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because the Trump administration refused to participate in the House impeachment inquiry, the president's defense in the Senate is the first time Trump's team will present a lengthy rebuttal to the charges against him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>NPR's Roberta Rampton and Deirdre Walsh contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2020 NPR. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most impeachment trial watchers on Monday, however, were following a major development that occurred outside of the Senate chamber.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside id=\"ad-backstage-wrap\" aria-label=\"advertisement\">\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/politics/trump-bolton-book-ukraine.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">report\u003c/a> in \u003cem>The New York Times \u003c/em>about the alleged conversation between Trump and former National Security Adviser John Bolton — contained in a draft of the former national security adviser's book manuscript — shifted the focus to whether senators would vote to call witnesses, including Bolton, as part of the proceedings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report was based on Bolton's forthcoming book, a draft of which had been sent to the White House as part of a standard review process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As speculation grew about whether Republicans would support calling Bolton, Dershowitz referenced the former top Trump official and dismissed the portions of his yet-to-be-published book that have grabbed the headlines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Nothing in the Bolton revelations, even if true, would rise to the level of an abuse of power or an impeachable offense,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two Republican senators, Mitt Romney of Utah and Susan Collins of Maine, said Monday that the revelations about Bolton's book have made it more likely that senators will want to call Bolton to testify.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I think it's increasingly likely that other Republicans will join those of us who think we should hear from John Bolton,\" Romney said, noting that he would make his final decision on the issue after hearing from Trump's defense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Collins\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/SenatorCollins/status/1221822472292634625?s=20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> tweeted\u003c/a> that the reports about Bolton's book \"strengthen the case for witnesses and have prompted a number of conversations among my colleagues.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two others who are seen as more open to calling witnesses — Sens. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Lamar Alexander of Tennessee — were tight-lipped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alexander said senators will decide \"to call witnesses or other documents if we needed them after we hear all the arguments.\" Murkowski said in a tweet that while she was \"curious\" about what Bolton had to say, there is \"an appropriate time for us to evaluate whether we need additional information.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jay Sekulow, Trump's personal attorney, argued that the president \"was at all times\" acting under his constitutional and legal authority by withholding aid to Ukraine, saying that Trump's impeachment is about \"deep policy concerns.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ken Starr, the former independent counsel who led the impeachment efforts against President Bill Clinton in 1998 and is now part of Trump's defense team, began his arguments by reciting a history of impeachment and declared, \"Like war, impeachment is hell.\" He said, \"It divides the country like nothing else. Those of us who lived through the Clinton impeachment understand that in a deep and personal way. \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Starr went on to accuse the House of abusing its power by approving article 2, which charges that Trump obstructed Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Here, we have, tragically for the country and, I believe, tragically for the House of Representatives, in article 2 of these impeachment articles, a runaway House,\" Starr said. \"It has run away not only from its long-standing procedures — it has run away from the Constitution's demand of fundamental fairness.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another of Trump's attorneys, Jane Raskin, spoke to defend Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyer who was painted by the House managers as leading a rogue foreign policy operation by pursuing information against former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, as well as pressuring to remove former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Giuliani, said Raskin, was the House's \"colorful distraction,\" and, \"a shiny object designed to distract you.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said the \"House managers may not like his style, you may not like his style. But one might argue, that he is everything that Clarence Darrow said a defense lawyer must be, outrageous, irreverent, blasphemous, a rogue, a renegade.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Later in the afternoon, Trump attorney Pam Bondi, a former Florida attorney general, rose to attack former Vice President Biden and his son Hunter's dealings in Ukraine. The younger Biden was hired to sit on the board of a Ukrainian gas company Burisma at the same time his father was the Obama administration's point man in fighting corruption there. In the infamous July 25th phone call, Trump asked Ukraine's president to \"do us a favor, though\" and investigate the Bidens. The first article of impeachment charges Trump with abusing the power of his office by asking for the investigation in return for releasing nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine. Trump denies any such link was made, though Bolton's book appears to undercut that assertion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bondi said the younger Biden was paid $83,000 a month to sit on the Burisma board, and played a news clip in which Hunter was asked if would have been hired by the firm if his last name wasn't Biden. \"I don't know, I don't know, he responded. Probably not.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>The Push for Witnesses\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Over three days of arguments last week, House impeachment managers \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/01/24/799426878/trump-impeachment-recap-dems-wrap-with-exhortation-to-act\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">outlined their case\u003c/a> that Trump enlisted a foreign power to help him cheat in the 2020 election and then has tried to cover it up. \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2020/01/18/797600385/read-the-impeachment-managers-response-to-the-senate-impeachment-trial-summons\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">They've said\u003c/a> that the president's conduct is the \"worst nightmare\" of the nation's Framers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump's legal team is facing a mostly sympathetic group of jurors in the Republican-controlled Senate. An acquittal on the two articles of impeachment is all but guaranteed, since the Democratic caucus would need 20 GOP members' support to have the two-thirds majority needed to convict and remove the president.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More up in the air, however, is whether Democrats will be able to recruit enough Republicans to call witnesses for the trial. That vote has a lower threshold than the one required to remove the president from office. At least four GOP senators would have to cross party lines to call witnesses or subpoena documents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In light of the \u003cem>Times'\u003c/em> report on Sunday, Democrats were quick to reiterate that Bolton should testify.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said Monday that the revelations should remove the GOP resistance against witnesses. 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