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No more.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s when hospital staff told him about a program through Sutter Health that would send people to take care of him at home. It’s called the Advanced Illness Management program, or AIM. It’s designed for people like Martinez who have multiple chronic illnesses.\u003c!--more-->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not hospice. That’s for people who doctors say have six months or less to live. This program is for the pre-hospice population, people estimated to be in the last 18 months of life. The AIM program assigns a team of doctors, nurses and social workers to help patients transition home after hospital stays, manage medication, and carefully coordinate care, at home and over the phone, to help keep patients out of the hospital.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Martinez’ nurse, Aileen Capuyan, and social worker, Ally Chu, come to his home in Oakland once a week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Are you coughing? Do you have any shortness of breath?” Capuyan asks as she listens to Martinez’s lungs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He sits in the brown leather armchair in his living room while she takes his temperature and checks his blood pressure. Meanwhile, Chu is in the kitchen talking with Martinez's son, Jimmy, who takes care of him. Jimmy is making tamales. Then Capuyan and Chu switch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of the visit is spent talking: about the pain in Martinez’s leg, how his dominoes game is going at the senior center, and about more sensitive things, like what happens when his health gets worse — what kind of care he wants at the end of life and what care he doesn’t want.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t want to be resuscitated,” Martinez says. “When my time comes — let it go.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ciframe src=\"https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/155994604&color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The founders of the AIM program hope that these ongoing visits build the kind of trust where patients can fully explore these questions. Chief program executive Betsy Gornet says this avoids rushed decisions that don’t capture a person’s real values.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Spending fifteen minutes in a doctor's office or in an ICU in a crisis isn’t necessarily the way to do advanced care planning,” she says. “We do know that a dialogue over time does help foster the right kind of information.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She says that means patients get the kind of care they want, and get help before their conditions reach a crisis level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve been able to track very consistently a 30 percent reduction in emergency room visits by these patients, 70 to 80 percent reduction in ICU days, 50 percent reduction in hospitalizations,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That in turn has saved money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve seen the total cost of care go down anywhere from $3,600 to $5,000 dollar per patient over the course of 90 days,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is the kind of talk that has sparked fiery debates in Washington. 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