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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“The problem here is not e-bikes and scooters, the problem is when people are using non-UL certified batteries in them,” Mahmood said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His ordinance, which was set to be introduced at Tuesday afternoon’s Board of Supervisors meeting, aims to solve this problem upstream by prohibiting the sale of uncertified lithium-ion batteries, authorizing enforcement by the San Francisco Fire Department and establishing penalties of up to $1,000 per violation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Glen Martin, the owner of In and Out E-Bike Repair in the Mission District, believes this legislation will have a positive impact. “I think the highest standards need to be employed behind these batteries,” Martin said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While there is a state law in California that regulates lithium-ion batteries, Mahmood said his law would go further by regulating the online delivery component and giving the fire chief authority to issue citations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to the new legislation, the Fire Department is working hard to increase public awareness around lithium-ion battery safety and telling citizens to spot fires early.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Fire Department \u003ca href=\"https://sf-fire.org/safety-resources-and-information/lithium-ion-battery-safety\">recommends\u003c/a> taking precautions such as only using the manufacturer’s charger, storing your e-bikes and scooters away from exits, and charging on flat, non-combustible surfaces out of direct sunlight (i.e., don’t leave your phone on the bed while it’s charging). If you hear popping or hissing, see a bulging battery or feel the device temperature rising, you may be in trouble.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/aaliahmad\">\u003cem>Ayah Ali-Ahmad\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Fire officials and bike advocates are warning people to take precautions when buying, charging and storing \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/e-bikes\">e-bikes\u003c/a> following the death of a man who tried to extinguish a battery fire in the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/south-bay\">South Bay\u003c/a> last week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the popularity of e-bikes grows, so does the risk of fires from damaged, failing or lower-quality battery packs that power them. Taking safety measures, such as never leaving an e-bike charging unattended, can help reduce the likelihood of a fire, injuries or death if the batteries do ignite, officials said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“All across the country, we’re seeing a rapid increase in lithium-ion battery fires,” San José Fire Department Battalion Chief Jeff Fielding said Monday during a news conference. “It is becoming a much more common problem.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Around 8:30 a.m. on Friday, fire officials received reports of a fire in an apartment on Norwalk Drive in West San José. Firefighters arrived to find one person collapsed in a hallway, and another who had escaped the fire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the incident report from SJFD, a woman who lived in the apartment told fire investigators she heard “buzzing and popping” coming from the e-bike, and it immediately caught fire, looking like “it had fireworks coming from it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The woman ran to the balcony, while a man came out of a bedroom and tried to extinguish the fire amid thick smoke. The man went out to the balcony briefly, as he was struggling to breathe, then went back in to attempt to control the fire before going to the hallway, where he collapsed, officials and the report said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12078946\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1770px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12078946\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260406-EBIKEFIRE-KQED-1_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1770\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260406-EBIKEFIRE-KQED-1_qed.jpg 1770w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260406-EBIKEFIRE-KQED-1_qed-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260406-EBIKEFIRE-KQED-1_qed-1536x1157.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1770px) 100vw, 1770px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Battalion Chief Jeff Fielding of the San José Fire Department speaks about an e-bike fire during a press conference on April 6, 2026. \u003ccite>(Joseph Geha/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A neighbor ran to the balcony to rescue the woman, and then performed CPR on the man, who was taken by paramedics to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead a short time later. He has not yet been publicly identified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire department said the cause of the fire was the failure of the battery, which ignited while it was plugged into a wall outlet. The crews were able to contain the fire quickly enough that there was little damage to the structure, and it didn’t spread outside of the apartment where the bike was stored.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fielding said that when lithium-ion batteries fail or catch fire, they do so with little to no warning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The fire spreads very rapidly and produces a very large amount of toxic smoke that spreads very quickly,” he said. ”It can overwhelm victims very quickly and can also make it very, very difficult to escape the fire.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot of toxic chemicals in them, a lot of heavy metals, a lot of different chemicals in that smoke that is very, very much different than traditional structure-fire smoke, which is what makes them so deadly,” he said.[aside postID=news_12070694 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250805-MARINEBIKES-03-KQED-1.jpg']Lithium-ion batteries power many consumer products, from cell phones to vacuum cleaners, as well as electric vehicles, and the e-bike market is a fast-growing one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Battery packs for e-bikes are much larger than those for personal electronics, and they are exposed to the elements more. Bicycle advocates and fire officials have raised concerns about regulations on manufacturing standards, user modifications to enhance speed or power and the risk of damage to the batteries from impacts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fielding said if e-bike users notice a battery beginning to show signs that it might be damaged, like an odor, bulging shape, or if it is starting to smoke, and they have time, they can take it outside to avoid a fire in a living space. But more often, he said, firefighters recommend simply evacuating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Try and enclose that living space and get out. Your life is not worth any property, so close that living place, shut all the doors, get out and call 911. It’s the best advice,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There have been an estimated 198,000 lithium-ion battery fires in structures since 2011, according to an \u003ca href=\"https://www.nist.gov/publications/understanding-risk-lithium-ion-battery-fires-multi-source-data-analysis\">analysis\u003c/a> of multiple data sources on such incidents by the National Institute of Standards and Technology last month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Consumer-level lithium-ion battery fires appear to be growing at a rate of about 10% per year, the analysis said. Fires starting with e-bikes and micromobility devices “are among the leading causes of home-related lithium-ion battery fires, especially in urban areas,” the analysis said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12078945\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 1066px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12078945\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260406-EBIKEFIRE-KQED-2_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1066\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260406-EBIKEFIRE-KQED-2_qed.jpg 1066w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260406-EBIKEFIRE-KQED-2_qed-160x200.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1066px) 100vw, 1066px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The San José Fire Department shared this photo of an e-bike that ignited causing a fire at an apartment on Friday, April 3, 2026. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of San José Fire Department)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Fielding and biking advocates said following some simple steps can help avoid a fire in the first place, including only charging e-bike batteries under supervision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When a lithium e-bike battery is plugged in for too long, it can get overheated and for a variety of reasons, it can catch on fire. Not leaving your battery plugged in overnight is key, and then keeping an eye on it while it’s charging is very important,” said Jared Sanchez, the policy director at the nonprofit California Bicycle Coalition, known as CalBike.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2024, California passed SB 1271, a law that went into effect this year and requires all e-bikes sold in the state to include batteries that meet certain standards based on lab testing. But Sanchez said it’s still important to verify that an e-bike a rider is considering buying or renting meets and displays those certifications, and to use manufacturer parts if anything needs to be replaced.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As we often see, most battery fires are in unregulated or aftermarket products that will often be more likely to catch fire than the certified ones,” he said. “Make sure the battery is designed for the motor for your particular bike. Extension cords have been linked to battery fires, so always plug in your battery charger directly into an outlet.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a fire sparked by a lithium-ion battery displaced dozens of residents of an apartment building in the Tenderloin neighborhood of San Francisco, lawmakers there are \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12078969/sf-legislation-aims-to-crack-down-on-uncertified-batteries-as-fires-grow-more-common\">considering legislation\u003c/a> to outlaw uncertified batteries and devices in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A good way for cyclists to ensure they are purchasing a quality product is to buy directly from a reputable bike store or dealer. They will be required to follow the laws around battery certification, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re concerned about making the right choices, you can also seek help or advice from local organizations, like the Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition, which offers an “\u003ca href=\"https://bikesiliconvalley.org/learn-ride/learn\">E-Bike Basics\u003c/a>” class in San Mateo and Santa Clara counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As we see e-bikes really surge in popularity, it’s so important that people know what they’re buying so that they can use this transportation tool that really does have the power to be transformative safely and effectively and never put themselves in harm’s way,” said Amy Thomson, the policy director at Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12051118\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12051118\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250729-MARINEBIKES-03-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250729-MARINEBIKES-03-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250729-MARINEBIKES-03-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250729-MARINEBIKES-03-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An electric bicycle sits on display at Tam Bikes in Mill Valley on July 29, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She said the class helps people understand what they’re buying, including whether the products have the proper \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12070694/these-bay-area-researchers-say-the-e-bike-problem-may-be-an-e-moto-problem\">power levels\u003c/a>. Many products on the market have motors with too much power and too high a top speed — above 28 miles per hour — to be classified as an e-bike in California. Instead, experts say those devices are more akin to an e-motorcycle or an e-moped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are a lot of options out there, and not all of them are legitimate. We see e-devices called e-bikes when they are not legal e-bikes. And you run the same risk with the battery that’s inside the bike,” Thomson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thomson said that because an e-bike can be plugged in, some consumers might think it can be treated like any rechargeable home item.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is a transportation tool. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Lithium-ion batteries power many consumer products, from cell phones to vacuum cleaners, as well as electric vehicles, and the e-bike market is a fast-growing one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Battery packs for e-bikes are much larger than those for personal electronics, and they are exposed to the elements more. Bicycle advocates and fire officials have raised concerns about regulations on manufacturing standards, user modifications to enhance speed or power and the risk of damage to the batteries from impacts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fielding said if e-bike users notice a battery beginning to show signs that it might be damaged, like an odor, bulging shape, or if it is starting to smoke, and they have time, they can take it outside to avoid a fire in a living space. But more often, he said, firefighters recommend simply evacuating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Try and enclose that living space and get out. Your life is not worth any property, so close that living place, shut all the doors, get out and call 911. It’s the best advice,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There have been an estimated 198,000 lithium-ion battery fires in structures since 2011, according to an \u003ca href=\"https://www.nist.gov/publications/understanding-risk-lithium-ion-battery-fires-multi-source-data-analysis\">analysis\u003c/a> of multiple data sources on such incidents by the National Institute of Standards and Technology last month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Consumer-level lithium-ion battery fires appear to be growing at a rate of about 10% per year, the analysis said. Fires starting with e-bikes and micromobility devices “are among the leading causes of home-related lithium-ion battery fires, especially in urban areas,” the analysis said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12078945\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 1066px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12078945\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260406-EBIKEFIRE-KQED-2_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1066\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260406-EBIKEFIRE-KQED-2_qed.jpg 1066w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/260406-EBIKEFIRE-KQED-2_qed-160x200.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1066px) 100vw, 1066px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The San José Fire Department shared this photo of an e-bike that ignited causing a fire at an apartment on Friday, April 3, 2026. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of San José Fire Department)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Fielding and biking advocates said following some simple steps can help avoid a fire in the first place, including only charging e-bike batteries under supervision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When a lithium e-bike battery is plugged in for too long, it can get overheated and for a variety of reasons, it can catch on fire. Not leaving your battery plugged in overnight is key, and then keeping an eye on it while it’s charging is very important,” said Jared Sanchez, the policy director at the nonprofit California Bicycle Coalition, known as CalBike.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2024, California passed SB 1271, a law that went into effect this year and requires all e-bikes sold in the state to include batteries that meet certain standards based on lab testing. But Sanchez said it’s still important to verify that an e-bike a rider is considering buying or renting meets and displays those certifications, and to use manufacturer parts if anything needs to be replaced.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As we often see, most battery fires are in unregulated or aftermarket products that will often be more likely to catch fire than the certified ones,” he said. “Make sure the battery is designed for the motor for your particular bike. Extension cords have been linked to battery fires, so always plug in your battery charger directly into an outlet.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a fire sparked by a lithium-ion battery displaced dozens of residents of an apartment building in the Tenderloin neighborhood of San Francisco, lawmakers there are \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12078969/sf-legislation-aims-to-crack-down-on-uncertified-batteries-as-fires-grow-more-common\">considering legislation\u003c/a> to outlaw uncertified batteries and devices in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A good way for cyclists to ensure they are purchasing a quality product is to buy directly from a reputable bike store or dealer. They will be required to follow the laws around battery certification, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re concerned about making the right choices, you can also seek help or advice from local organizations, like the Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition, which offers an “\u003ca href=\"https://bikesiliconvalley.org/learn-ride/learn\">E-Bike Basics\u003c/a>” class in San Mateo and Santa Clara counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As we see e-bikes really surge in popularity, it’s so important that people know what they’re buying so that they can use this transportation tool that really does have the power to be transformative safely and effectively and never put themselves in harm’s way,” said Amy Thomson, the policy director at Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12051118\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12051118\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250729-MARINEBIKES-03-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250729-MARINEBIKES-03-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250729-MARINEBIKES-03-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250729-MARINEBIKES-03-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An electric bicycle sits on display at Tam Bikes in Mill Valley on July 29, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She said the class helps people understand what they’re buying, including whether the products have the proper \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12070694/these-bay-area-researchers-say-the-e-bike-problem-may-be-an-e-moto-problem\">power levels\u003c/a>. Many products on the market have motors with too much power and too high a top speed — above 28 miles per hour — to be classified as an e-bike in California. Instead, experts say those devices are more akin to an e-motorcycle or an e-moped.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are a lot of options out there, and not all of them are legitimate. We see e-devices called e-bikes when they are not legal e-bikes. And you run the same risk with the battery that’s inside the bike,” Thomson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thomson said that because an e-bike can be plugged in, some consumers might think it can be treated like any rechargeable home item.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is a transportation tool. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"#Viewthefullepisodetranscript\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/bart\">Bay Area Rapid Transit\u003c/a> — or BART — was a brand new, cutting-edge transportation system when it opened in 1972. Since then, its reputation has become a bit less high-tech. And while riders hear a variety of voices making announcements throughout the BART system, there are two that sound different — robotic, synthesized voices, one male and one female, that sound like they are from yesteryear.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And at least one rider has taken particular note.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I never understood what it was saying,” Bay Curious listener Jimmy Tobin said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To Jimmy, the voices sound rudimentary, like the voice of 1990s Microsoft Sam.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m baffled by this thing,” he said. “I just can’t justify why this is so hard to understand and so easy to update.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12078618\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/250403-BART-VOICES-01-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12078618\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/250403-BART-VOICES-01-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1522\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/250403-BART-VOICES-01-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/250403-BART-VOICES-01-KQED-160x122.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/04/250403-BART-VOICES-01-KQED-1536x1169.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sept. 11, 1972, BART opens to the public. On the first day alone, 15,000 people rode the new trains, despite the fact that they only ran between Fremont and MacArthur Stations in the East Bay. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Bay Area Rapid Transit))\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It seems like a blatant contradiction to him that trains running through communities at the heart of the AI boom sound like they’re from the first computers ever made. He wants to know why these robotic announcements have never been updated.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Passengers used to just wait\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Before the late 1990s, BART had no live train information or announcements for passengers. There would occasionally be voiced announcements in the case of major disruptions, but on a regular day, riders would consult a paper schedule to see when a train was supposed to arrive. In the case of delays, riders would wait on the platform, without any information on when the train might actually come.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, in 2000, BART began using a new piece of technology.[aside postID=news_12077572 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251027-ALMADENQUICKSILVER00034_TV-KQED.jpg'] The Advance Passenger Information System (APIS) is a data hub that allows BART to calculate and communicate live train locations. For the first time, BART had the ability to share real-time information with riders, like the estimated time of arrival of a train. They initially did this with digital signage on the train platforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The data would later be made publicly available, allowing for other platforms like navigation apps to utilize the live train information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When this technology was rolling out in 2000, BART was also assessing the accessibility of its system for blind and visually impaired riders. BART’s policy became, “Anything that’s been written down, we need to also verbally say,” said Alicia Trost, chief communications officer at BART.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In order to translate the digital signs with real-time updates into verbal announcements, BART acquired a text-to-speech system from Lucent Technologies, a telecommunications company. And those synthesized voices that bug Tobin so much, they have names — George and Gracie. Listen closely, and you’ll hear that George announces trains in one direction and the Gracie announces trains in the opposite direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the time, this was cutting-edge technology — the system could vocalize thousands of announcements per day with real-time information, all without any human involvement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in the past 26 years, George and Gracie have stayed mostly the same, and their limitations have become apparent. For an accessibility tool, they can be hard to understand, and compared to today’s voice synthesizing technology, they don’t sound very human.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Why hasn’t BART updated George and Gracie?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>George and Gracie are proprietary to Lucent Technologies, which went out of business in the mid-2000s. The company is no longer around to provide updates, and BART doesn’t have access to the source code to make its own changes. The only thing that can be updated is the text that George and Gracie read.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“BART has really limited funding, and we have to think about the priority,” Trost said. “Things like replacing our trains are more important.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12044953\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/20241204-BART-JY-009_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12044953\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/20241204-BART-JY-009_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/20241204-BART-JY-009_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/20241204-BART-JY-009_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/20241204-BART-JY-009_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Passengers wait to board BART at Daly City Station in Daly City, on Dec. 4, 2024. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>George and Gracie may be a bit outdated, but the system works, so updating it isn’t a top priority, Trost said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s also clear that some Bay Area residents love George and Gracie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the computer game Roblox, users have \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24yglNNGJZ4\">featured their voices\u003c/a> in recreations of the BART system. As players drive or board a virtual BART train, George and Gracie are there announcing: “Now boarding at Embarcadero.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They have also been a topic of discussion on Reddit and YouTube. \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/Bart/comments/1g130wj/the_voices_of_bart/?solution=4a4ea784b52b90a34a4ea784b52b90a3&js_challenge=1&token=bbbe4bf1c9a2b5160829c4be34da586108bdd3256eb2920042534355492efd5e\">One Reddit user, ‘get-a-mac,’\u003c/a> wrote, “I never want those voices gone. They are the voice of BART!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another with the handle StreetyMcCarface wrote, “Keep George and Gracie, they are iconic.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Trost said BART \u003cem>is \u003c/em>looking to replace the announcement system at some point, which will force some tough decisions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Do we introduce new voices or do we actually replicate the old George and Gracie that sound so dated, because people love them?” Trost said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>BART is currently facing a $376 million deficit, raising big questions about its future. It’s forcing Bay Area residents to consider a world without BART and its role in the culture of the bay, big and small.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"Viewthefullepisodetranscript\">\u003c/a>Episode transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Bay Area Rapid Transit. Our dear friend, BART. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For regular riders, your whirs, squeaks and horns are part of the everyday soundtrack of life.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">always\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> hear you coming. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Whir of a train pulling into the station\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We appreciate those timely warnings… \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The doors are closing please stand clear of the doors\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And how you help us not miss our stop. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Arriving at 16th street Mission\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Every now and then, someone \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">real\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> pops in\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is BART operation control…\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jimmy Tobin, our question asker, has been fixated on one particular sound in the BART ecosystem. A set of announcements …\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jimmy Tobin:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> So sometimes it feels like there’s like a lower kind of male voice that’s like, feels like it’s from like war games, like WOPR kind of style. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Wargames Clip:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> This box interprets signals from the computer and turns it into sounds. “Shall we play a game?” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jimmy Tobin:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And there’s a higher female voice is kind of like 90s Microsoft Sam style.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Microsoft Sam: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hello, I am Microsoft Sam. I am the most popular voice of Microsoft.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There are a variety of voices riders hear throughout BART, some of which are voiced by actual people. But it’s \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">these\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> robotic and synthesized voices that Jimmy can’t stop hearing … \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Three car Fremont Train now boarding, platform 2.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jimmy is an audio engineer at Google who actually works on synthesized speech models, and these voices really \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">bothered\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> him. One day when he was waiting for a BART train and heard an announcement for a train heading toward the Oakland Airport.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">6-car Blue line train for OAK Airport Dublin in 15 minutes. 6-car Green line train for OAK Airport Barryessa in 19 minutes\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jimmy Tobin:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I never understood what it was saying. I always thought it was, like, Oasis? And so I was just like, what is this word? And then I look at the board and it’s like, OAK, and I’m like, why didn’t it say Oakland? Like, and so I’m baffled by this thing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It felt like such a contradiction to him that \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">this \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">was a voice of the transit system going through the home to the AI Boom… where all the newest tech is being developed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jimmy Tobin:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And I kept being like, it must be for, like, accessibility or maybe it’s like, it doesn’t have accents or something. And I was just like, I just can’t justify why this is so hard to understand and so easy to update. That’s why I came to you guys.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He wants to know the backstory behind these voices – and where they came from.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jimmy Tobin: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What has been the decision-making to keep it?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Olivia Allen-Price and you’re listening to Bay Curious. Today on the show we answer Jimmy’s questions. Stay with us. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sponsor Break\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To tell us more about the voices behind BART, we pass it to KQED’s Ana De Almeida Amaral…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When BART first opened to the public on Sept. 11, 1972, the world looked different.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">1970s music plays\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Richard Nixon was president of the United States. Elvis Presley’s “Burning Love” was charting. And Bay Area residents flocked to try out the new Bay Area Rapid Transit system.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At the time it only ran for 11 stops — from the McArthur Station in Oakland down to Fremont.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>BART Commercial:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The decade of the 1970s, is the decade of the decade of transportation alternatives…but the first large-scale breakthrough in moving great numbers of people rapidly and economically is the SF Bay Area Rapid Transit system, commonly called BART.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When BART first opened, there was no live train information for riders. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The only way riders knew when a train was coming was by reading a paper schedule. You might hear an announcement for major occurrences like if a train was completely out of service. But if your train was a little delayed, you’d sit and wait– without any information on when it would actually arrive.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But then in 2000, everything changed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BART developed a piece of technology called the Advanced Passenger Information System. For the first time, BART knew the live locations of trains throughout the system. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Riders now got real time information about when their train would arrive..\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Alicia Trost is the Chief Communications Officer at BART. She told me more about this era.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We had digital screens on the platform that gave you the, what we call ETAs, estimated time arrivals of the train. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And this was a pretty big deal… but at a time where new legislation mandated accessibility for disabled people— BART had to ask some important questions…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But what if you’re low vision and you can’t see or you’re blind? And so there was this big policy decision to say anything that’s been written down, we need to also verbally say.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BART chose a text-to-speech system to voice these announcements. It came from Lucent Technologies– a telecommunications company. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so in 2000, this synthesized voice speaking for BART was born. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s a computer with zero emotion, and it’s… every… word… is… spaced… apart.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Voices were tested at different speeds and levels of breathiness. Riders gave input on the versions that were easiest to understand that led to the final version.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The feminine voice of this system was named Gracie.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Gracie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> 6 car richmond train now approaching platform 1 \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the masculine voice was named George.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>George:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> 10 car San Francisco-Milbrae train in 8 minutes\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">George and Gracie announce a train’s estimated time of arrival, when a train is actively arriving, and when it is boarding. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In 2000, this was cutting edge technology– announcements made automatically, without any human involvement.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yes, there were and still also are \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">human voiced\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> announcements when there are big disruptions or delays… but even today, you’ll hear George and Gracie while waiting for a train. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So next time you’re in a bart station, really pay attention. You’ll hear George’s voice for one direction only and Gracie’s voice for the opposite direction.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Beat]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Since 2000, George and Gracie have been the voices we hear on BART platforms. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And in the past 26 years, there has been very little change. That’s because the actual text-to-speech system is \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">proprietary\u003c/span>\u003c/i> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">to Lucent Technologies\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. And after the demise of the company in the mid 2000s, they haven’t been around to provide any updates. And the kicker is BART doesn’t have access to the source code so they can’t change it. The only thing they can do is change the text that George and Gracie speak. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, I asked Alicia Jimmy’s question: Why hasn’t this been replaced ?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because it works and BART has really limited funding and when we go for capital funds, that’s the type of money we use to replace this system we have to think about the priority and things like replacing our trains is more important.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But she says that BART \u003c/span>\u003cb>\u003ci>is\u003c/i>\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">aware of the limitations of this technology– they’ve gotten that feedback and they want to replace it in the future. So, they are looking at piloting a new PA system.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And part of that is introducing what will be new voices. And it makes me nervous to even say that because this is going to cause great fear and debate among riders and the public… Do we introduce new voices or do we actually replicate the old George and Gracie that sounds so dated, but because people love them. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, despite their flaws, it seems like lots of people love these voices.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We frequently get asked about George and Gracie, and people tell us they love it. And we also know that there’s a lot of young people who adore the sound and have actually built in Roblox full-on BART systems.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And they include recordings George and Gracie.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So as you’re driving or boarding a virtual BART train in the 3D world of roblox, you’ll hear their voices!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sounds of Roblox game\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Aside from Roblox, George and Gracie have been a topic of discussion on Reddit and Youtube. And while there are the usual criticisms and suggestions to change it, it’s interesting to see what these voices represent for some people who love them: \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One person on reddit with the username ‘Get-a-Mac’ says:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Voice Over:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> “I never want those voices gone. They are the voice of BART!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Another user, COD Gamer 19, says:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Voice Over: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Gracie and George are a part of BART’s history, it wouldn’t feel the same without them, they’re a part of the bay as a whole.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> So I just know that it’s a popular topic because of how much I see it like in the culture of the Bay Area.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today, there are questions about the future of BART, especially as \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“They face a 376 million dollar budget deficit.”\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s forcing us to consider the ways BART impacts our lives and culture. And frankly, what it might be like to live without it.These questions go far beyond George and Gracie.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But still, this little piece of technology, stuck in time, reminds us of how quickly things have changed. And maybe, it brings you a little joy –or frustration –iin the monotony of your commute. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Gracie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> George, it’s time to get back to work.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>George:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You are right as usual, Gracie. Goodbye and thanks for visiting.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That was KQED’s Ana De Almeida Amaral. Jimmy Tobin thank you for asking the question. There is no question too big or small for Bay Curious – if you’ve got one that’s been itching in your mind, send it our way over at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://baycurious.org\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BayCurious.org\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> or shoot us an email. We’re at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"mailto:baycurious@kqed.org\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">baycurious@kqed.org\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bay Curious is made by Katrina Schwartz, Christopher Beale and me Olivia Allen-Price.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Extra support from Maha Sanad, Katie Sprenger, Jen Chien, Ethan Toven-Lindsey and everyone on team KQED.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, San Francisco Northern California Local.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Olivia Allen-Price. Thanks for listening.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp> The Advance Passenger Information System (APIS) is a data hub that allows BART to calculate and communicate live train locations. For the first time, BART had the ability to share real-time information with riders, like the estimated time of arrival of a train. They initially did this with digital signage on the train platforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The data would later be made publicly available, allowing for other platforms like navigation apps to utilize the live train information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When this technology was rolling out in 2000, BART was also assessing the accessibility of its system for blind and visually impaired riders. BART’s policy became, “Anything that’s been written down, we need to also verbally say,” said Alicia Trost, chief communications officer at BART.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In order to translate the digital signs with real-time updates into verbal announcements, BART acquired a text-to-speech system from Lucent Technologies, a telecommunications company. And those synthesized voices that bug Tobin so much, they have names — George and Gracie. Listen closely, and you’ll hear that George announces trains in one direction and the Gracie announces trains in the opposite direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the time, this was cutting-edge technology — the system could vocalize thousands of announcements per day with real-time information, all without any human involvement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in the past 26 years, George and Gracie have stayed mostly the same, and their limitations have become apparent. For an accessibility tool, they can be hard to understand, and compared to today’s voice synthesizing technology, they don’t sound very human.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Why hasn’t BART updated George and Gracie?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>George and Gracie are proprietary to Lucent Technologies, which went out of business in the mid-2000s. The company is no longer around to provide updates, and BART doesn’t have access to the source code to make its own changes. The only thing that can be updated is the text that George and Gracie read.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“BART has really limited funding, and we have to think about the priority,” Trost said. “Things like replacing our trains are more important.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12044953\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/20241204-BART-JY-009_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12044953\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/20241204-BART-JY-009_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/20241204-BART-JY-009_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/20241204-BART-JY-009_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/20241204-BART-JY-009_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Passengers wait to board BART at Daly City Station in Daly City, on Dec. 4, 2024. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>George and Gracie may be a bit outdated, but the system works, so updating it isn’t a top priority, Trost said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s also clear that some Bay Area residents love George and Gracie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the computer game Roblox, users have \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24yglNNGJZ4\">featured their voices\u003c/a> in recreations of the BART system. As players drive or board a virtual BART train, George and Gracie are there announcing: “Now boarding at Embarcadero.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They have also been a topic of discussion on Reddit and YouTube. \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/Bart/comments/1g130wj/the_voices_of_bart/?solution=4a4ea784b52b90a34a4ea784b52b90a3&js_challenge=1&token=bbbe4bf1c9a2b5160829c4be34da586108bdd3256eb2920042534355492efd5e\">One Reddit user, ‘get-a-mac,’\u003c/a> wrote, “I never want those voices gone. They are the voice of BART!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another with the handle StreetyMcCarface wrote, “Keep George and Gracie, they are iconic.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, Trost said BART \u003cem>is \u003c/em>looking to replace the announcement system at some point, which will force some tough decisions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Do we introduce new voices or do we actually replicate the old George and Gracie that sound so dated, because people love them?” Trost said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>BART is currently facing a $376 million deficit, raising big questions about its future. It’s forcing Bay Area residents to consider a world without BART and its role in the culture of the bay, big and small.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"Viewthefullepisodetranscript\">\u003c/a>Episode transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Bay Area Rapid Transit. Our dear friend, BART. \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">For regular riders, your whirs, squeaks and horns are part of the everyday soundtrack of life.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">always\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> hear you coming. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Whir of a train pulling into the station\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We appreciate those timely warnings… \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The doors are closing please stand clear of the doors\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And how you help us not miss our stop. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Arriving at 16th street Mission\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Every now and then, someone \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">real\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> pops in\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This is BART operation control…\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jimmy Tobin, our question asker, has been fixated on one particular sound in the BART ecosystem. A set of announcements …\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jimmy Tobin:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> So sometimes it feels like there’s like a lower kind of male voice that’s like, feels like it’s from like war games, like WOPR kind of style. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Wargames Clip:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> This box interprets signals from the computer and turns it into sounds. “Shall we play a game?” \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jimmy Tobin:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And there’s a higher female voice is kind of like 90s Microsoft Sam style.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Microsoft Sam: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hello, I am Microsoft Sam. I am the most popular voice of Microsoft.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There are a variety of voices riders hear throughout BART, some of which are voiced by actual people. But it’s \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">these\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> robotic and synthesized voices that Jimmy can’t stop hearing … \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Three car Fremont Train now boarding, platform 2.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jimmy is an audio engineer at Google who actually works on synthesized speech models, and these voices really \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">bothered\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> him. One day when he was waiting for a BART train and heard an announcement for a train heading toward the Oakland Airport.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">6-car Blue line train for OAK Airport Dublin in 15 minutes. 6-car Green line train for OAK Airport Barryessa in 19 minutes\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jimmy Tobin:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I never understood what it was saying. I always thought it was, like, Oasis? And so I was just like, what is this word? And then I look at the board and it’s like, OAK, and I’m like, why didn’t it say Oakland? Like, and so I’m baffled by this thing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It felt like such a contradiction to him that \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">this \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">was a voice of the transit system going through the home to the AI Boom… where all the newest tech is being developed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jimmy Tobin:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And I kept being like, it must be for, like, accessibility or maybe it’s like, it doesn’t have accents or something. And I was just like, I just can’t justify why this is so hard to understand and so easy to update. That’s why I came to you guys.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He wants to know the backstory behind these voices – and where they came from.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jimmy Tobin: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What has been the decision-making to keep it?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Olivia Allen-Price and you’re listening to Bay Curious. Today on the show we answer Jimmy’s questions. Stay with us. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sponsor Break\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">To tell us more about the voices behind BART, we pass it to KQED’s Ana De Almeida Amaral…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When BART first opened to the public on Sept. 11, 1972, the world looked different.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">1970s music plays\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Richard Nixon was president of the United States. Elvis Presley’s “Burning Love” was charting. And Bay Area residents flocked to try out the new Bay Area Rapid Transit system.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">At the time it only ran for 11 stops — from the McArthur Station in Oakland down to Fremont.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>BART Commercial:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The decade of the 1970s, is the decade of the decade of transportation alternatives…but the first large-scale breakthrough in moving great numbers of people rapidly and economically is the SF Bay Area Rapid Transit system, commonly called BART.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When BART first opened, there was no live train information for riders. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The only way riders knew when a train was coming was by reading a paper schedule. You might hear an announcement for major occurrences like if a train was completely out of service. But if your train was a little delayed, you’d sit and wait– without any information on when it would actually arrive.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But then in 2000, everything changed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BART developed a piece of technology called the Advanced Passenger Information System. For the first time, BART knew the live locations of trains throughout the system. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Riders now got real time information about when their train would arrive..\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Alicia Trost is the Chief Communications Officer at BART. She told me more about this era.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We had digital screens on the platform that gave you the, what we call ETAs, estimated time arrivals of the train. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And this was a pretty big deal… but at a time where new legislation mandated accessibility for disabled people— BART had to ask some important questions…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> But what if you’re low vision and you can’t see or you’re blind? And so there was this big policy decision to say anything that’s been written down, we need to also verbally say.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BART chose a text-to-speech system to voice these announcements. It came from Lucent Technologies– a telecommunications company. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And so in 2000, this synthesized voice speaking for BART was born. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s a computer with zero emotion, and it’s… every… word… is… spaced… apart.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Voices were tested at different speeds and levels of breathiness. Riders gave input on the versions that were easiest to understand that led to the final version.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The feminine voice of this system was named Gracie.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Gracie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> 6 car richmond train now approaching platform 1 \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And the masculine voice was named George.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>George:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> 10 car San Francisco-Milbrae train in 8 minutes\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">George and Gracie announce a train’s estimated time of arrival, when a train is actively arriving, and when it is boarding. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In 2000, this was cutting edge technology– announcements made automatically, without any human involvement.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yes, there were and still also are \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">human voiced\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> announcements when there are big disruptions or delays… but even today, you’ll hear George and Gracie while waiting for a train. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So next time you’re in a bart station, really pay attention. You’ll hear George’s voice for one direction only and Gracie’s voice for the opposite direction.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[Beat]\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Since 2000, George and Gracie have been the voices we hear on BART platforms. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And in the past 26 years, there has been very little change. That’s because the actual text-to-speech system is \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">proprietary\u003c/span>\u003c/i> \u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">to Lucent Technologies\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. And after the demise of the company in the mid 2000s, they haven’t been around to provide any updates. And the kicker is BART doesn’t have access to the source code so they can’t change it. The only thing they can do is change the text that George and Gracie speak. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, I asked Alicia Jimmy’s question: Why hasn’t this been replaced ?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because it works and BART has really limited funding and when we go for capital funds, that’s the type of money we use to replace this system we have to think about the priority and things like replacing our trains is more important.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But she says that BART \u003c/span>\u003cb>\u003ci>is\u003c/i>\u003c/b> \u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">aware of the limitations of this technology– they’ve gotten that feedback and they want to replace it in the future. 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And we also know that there’s a lot of young people who adore the sound and have actually built in Roblox full-on BART systems.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And they include recordings George and Gracie.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So as you’re driving or boarding a virtual BART train in the 3D world of roblox, you’ll hear their voices!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sounds of Roblox game\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Aside from Roblox, George and Gracie have been a topic of discussion on Reddit and Youtube. And while there are the usual criticisms and suggestions to change it, it’s interesting to see what these voices represent for some people who love them: \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">One person on reddit with the username ‘Get-a-Mac’ says:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Voice Over:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> “I never want those voices gone. They are the voice of BART!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Another user, COD Gamer 19, says:\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Voice Over: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Gracie and George are a part of BART’s history, it wouldn’t feel the same without them, they’re a part of the bay as a whole.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alicia Trost:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> So I just know that it’s a popular topic because of how much I see it like in the culture of the Bay Area.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today, there are questions about the future of BART, especially as \u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">“They face a 376 million dollar budget deficit.”\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s forcing us to consider the ways BART impacts our lives and culture. And frankly, what it might be like to live without it.These questions go far beyond George and Gracie.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But still, this little piece of technology, stuck in time, reminds us of how quickly things have changed. And maybe, it brings you a little joy –or frustration –iin the monotony of your commute. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Gracie:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> George, it’s time to get back to work.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>George:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You are right as usual, Gracie. Goodbye and thanks for visiting.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That was KQED’s Ana De Almeida Amaral. Jimmy Tobin thank you for asking the question. There is no question too big or small for Bay Curious – if you’ve got one that’s been itching in your mind, send it our way over at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"http://baycurious.org\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BayCurious.org\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> or shoot us an email. We’re at \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"mailto:baycurious@kqed.org\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">baycurious@kqed.org\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bay Curious is made by Katrina Schwartz, Christopher Beale and me Olivia Allen-Price.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Extra support from Maha Sanad, Katie Sprenger, Jen Chien, Ethan Toven-Lindsey and everyone on team KQED.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, San Francisco Northern California Local.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Olivia Allen-Price. Thanks for listening.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Update: On July 28, immigrant rights advocates released guidance that said people without U.S. citizenship should try to \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12092697/bay-area-immigrant-advocates-warn-noncitizens-to-avoid-air-travel-after-ice-arrests\">\u003cem>avoid air travel\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem>, including domestic flights, after a series of airport detainments in the Bay Area. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>An \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/arocupdates/\">\u003cem>Arab Resource and Organizing Center post\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> reads, “If you do not have permanent status in the United States, or have been recently charged with a crime, we advise that you do not travel until you are able to consult with an attorney.”\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2026/03/13/nx-s1-5744648/as-partial-shutdown-drags-on-morning-edition-checks-out-tsa-lines-at-3-airports\">Feb. 14\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/air-travel\">Transportation Security Administration\u003c/a> staff have worked without pay due to the ongoing partial government shutdown — and with many calling out of work, passengers across the United States have experienced \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2026/03/21/nx-s1-5755796/airport-security-tsa-lines-travel-tips\">hourslong security screening lines\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This weekend, President Donald Trump announced that as of Monday, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents would be deployed to airports to support TSA operations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Trump administration said that ICE officers would be on duty to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12077292/is-ice-at-sfo-heres-what-we-know-about-videos-of-woman-being-forcefully-detained\">assist with airport security staffing\u003c/a>. But the presence of ICE officers has \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeBTNUdzvN8\">sparked fear and\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2026/03/23/ice-officers-at-airports-could-sow-fear-latino-group-warns/89294194007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z116320p119050l004550c119050e1123xxv116320d--45--b--45--&gca-ft=168&gca-ds=sophi\">uncertainty \u003c/a>among travelers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco International Airport, the Bay Area’s biggest airport, has been spared long wait lines by the fact that its security screening is \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/flysfo/p/DWHseVzDnnc/\">contracted by a private company\u003c/a> rather than TSA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But on Sunday night, in an incident\u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/1s1a3lq/ice_already_causing_havoc_at_sfo/\"> captured on video\u003c/a>, plainclothes immigration officers were seen at SFO \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12077292/is-ice-at-sfo-heres-what-we-know-about-videos-of-woman-being-forcefully-detained\">forcefully handling a woman in front of her young child\u003c/a>. SFO was not on the list of 14 airports \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/tsa-wait-times-ice-airports-03-23-26?post-id=cmn37qf65000q3b6rfo32wpep\">obtained by CNN\u003c/a> where ICE would be appearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jump straight to: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#SFO\">Why was ICE at SFO on Sunday?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#Questions\">Do I have to answer ICE’s questions in an airport?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#Film\">Is it legal to film ICE in an airport?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12067064\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEATING-91-BL-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12067064\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEATING-91-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEATING-91-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEATING-91-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEATING-91-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The International Terminal at San Francisco International Airport on Dec. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>So what should you know about ICE in U.S. airports right now? Keep reading for what we know about immigration officers, air travel and your rights around ICE officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bear in mind that the following information doesn’t constitute legal advice, and you should direct any specific questions about your individual situation to a lawyer.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Which U.S. airports have ICE been deployed to?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/22/us/politics/ice-airports-homan-trump.html?smid=url-share\">reporting by\u003cem> The New York Times\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, 14 airports around the country will host ICE agents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/tsa-wait-times-ice-airports-03-23-26?post-id=cmn37qf65000q3b6rfo32wpep\">CNN reported\u003c/a> that these locations include Chicago-O’Hare International Airport, Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, John F. Kennedy International and LaGuardia airports in New York and Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No California airports appear on CNN’s current list.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Tuesday, a TSA spokesperson confirmed to KQED that ICE would be deployed to “airports being adversely impacted” by TSA callouts and resignations — and that none of these were in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"SFO\">\u003c/a>Why was ICE at SFO on Sunday?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In footage from around 10 p.m. Sunday that was posted to social media, men wearing dark clothing were filmed at SFO pulling a crying woman from an airport terminal bench and then pushing her into a wheelchair — as a girl of around 10 is heard crying nearby. San Francisco police officers were seen standing by as the arrest occurred.[aside postID=news_12047506 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/250609-SEIUProtests-07-BL_qed.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The men are not wearing visible badges or agency markings, but the Department of Homeland Security \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2036158826341077203?s=46&t=PMxn5DJx4Cr-fWgaQBUvVA\">said\u003c/a> on the social media platform X Monday that they were, in fact, ICE officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to a DHS spokesperson, the woman and her daughter were arrested at the airport and were being “escorted to the international terminal for processing” when the woman tried to flee. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12077292/is-ice-at-sfo-heres-what-we-know-about-videos-of-woman-being-forcefully-detained\">Read more about Sunday night’s incident at SFO.\u003c/a> As reported by \u003cem>The New York Times\u003c/em> on Tuesday evening, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/tsa-data-ice-deportation-san-francisco-airport.html\">ICE had originally been alerted\u003c/a> to the pair’s presence at SFO by TSA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/flysfo/p/DWPA-h5D_QG/\">a statement released by SFO\u003c/a>, the airport was “not involved in or notified in advance of this incident.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We understand federal officers were transporting two individuals on an outbound flight when this incident occurred,” the statement reads. “We believe this is an isolated incident and have no reason to suspect broader enforcement action at SFO.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/DWPGTBvmGX9/\">San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lurie echoed the airport’s statement on Monday in a social media post\u003c/a>. Lurie said in his statement that local law enforcement “does not participate in federal civil immigration enforcement,” although \u003ca href=\"https://missionlocal.org/2026/03/attorneys-say-sfpd-may-have-violated-the-law-during-ice-arrest-at-sfo/\">some immigration attorneys have nonetheless questioned SFPD’s presence\u003c/a> during the arrest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As of Monday afternoon, local immigration advocates said they were \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/sfrrn_/p/DWPQRS4lMjl/\">still assessing the situation\u003c/a> and working to “confirm all the facts related to this incident.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“After killing people in our streets and detaining U.S. citizens, ICE has lost all credibility and trust with the public,” Bay Area Rep. Kevin Mullin and Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi said in a joint statement. “We demand immediate answers as to the mother’s and her child’s condition and the grounds for their detainment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Can ICE arrest people at the airport?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Yes, there have been documented instances of \u003ca href=\"https://www.nilc.org/resources/community-alert-immigration-arrests-at-airports/\">ICE arresting people at airports\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jonathan Blazer, director of border strategies and senior advisor at the American Civil Liberties Union, said that there is “nothing that categorically prohibits ICE from going into an airport as an immigration enforcement agent.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, Blazer said, ICE agents have used commercial flights in the past to transport individuals on deportation flights — or to transfer arrested people to immigration detention centers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12067210\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEating-86-BL_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12067210\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEating-86-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEating-86-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEating-86-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEating-86-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Passengers wait for their flight at San Francisco International Airport on Dec. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Additionally, as first reported by \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/us/politics/immigration-tsa-passenger-data.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U8.1lIj.Qa1WfLVCwcJB&smid=url-share\">\u003cem>The New York Times\u003c/em>\u003c/a> in December 2025, TSA has shared information about air travelers who are believed to be under deportation orders with ICE, enabling immigration agents to make arrests at the airport.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Blazer said that this week’s deployment of ICE to airports — the “mere presence for this purpose, in an untargeted fashion, in large numbers” — was “unprecedented.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ice-tsa-wait-times-shutdown-03-24-26?post-id=cmn48kb0y00823b6p6u9q5bxl\">CNN on Tuesday morning\u003c/a>, Trump said that agents will continue arresting undocumented people, but said of ICE agents in airports: “That’s not why they’re there; they’re really there to help.” (Most TSA officers are \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-when-encountering-law-enforcement-airports-and-other-ports-entry-us#what-types-of-law-enforcement-officers-and-other-government-officials-could-i-encounter-during-the-security-screening-process-at-the-airport\">not commissioned law enforcement officers\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Part of what’s so challenging here is that the Trump administration hasn’t really made clear what authorities they are vesting with ICE as part of this mission,” Blazer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In its roundup of \u003ca href=\"https://www.nilc.org/resources/community-alert-immigration-arrests-at-airports/\">risks of air travel,\u003c/a> the National Immigration Law Center said that for people who are undocumented, have temporary immigration status or who are under a deportation order, there is “a significant risk of arrest at a U.S. airport.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, NILC also said that “all non-citizens face some risk” while traveling through U.S. airports, including those with green cards, if they have certain criminal convictions or who have Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals status.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates encourage \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/DWMjSDSgeoZ/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D\">passengers who aren’t U.S. citizens to talk to a lawyer\u003c/a> about their specific situation before traveling.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Customs and Border Protection already regularly works in airports. What’s the difference between their powers and ICE’s?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>ICE and CBP are both immigration enforcement agencies within DHS.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While \u003ca href=\"https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10362\">ICE conducts enforcement within the U.S.\u003c/a> and manages detention and deportation operations, CBP conducts inspections at all U.S. “ports of entry” — at land borders, seaports and airports.[aside postID=news_12025647 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/GettyImages-1243312873-1020x680.jpg'] ACLU’s Blazer said that while CBP has a lot of “power when they’re screening people coming in on an international flight,” that doesn’t apply to \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/cbp-cant-detain-domestic-flight-passengers-refusing-suspicionless-id-checks#:~:text=CBP%20is%20bound%20by%20those,actions%20that%20participation%20is%20voluntary.\">domestic flights\u003c/a>. For example, CBP — and ICE — should not be able to check your electronic devices without a warrant for a domestic flight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nicole Hallett, director of the Immigrants’ Rights Clinic and a clinical professor of law at the University of Chicago, told the \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/tips/ice-agents-tsa-airports/\">\u003cem>Washington Post\u003c/em>\u003c/a> that ICE cannot search a passenger’s personal belongings without a warrant — and can only do this if they are working on behalf of an agency that \u003cem>can\u003c/em>, like CBP.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If they’re acting as a TSA agent, they have to follow TSA rules. If they’re acting as a CBP agent and doing Border Patrol work, then they have the authority that Border Patrol has,” Hallett said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And if they are just merely standing in the airport as ICE officers, then they have the same legal authority that any ICE officer standing in a public location has,” she said. (Regardless, she said that ICE can \u003ca href=\"https://archive.ph/YWJ1z#selection-853.62-853.119\">approach passengers anywhere\u003c/a> in the airport, including after security.)\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>What should I do if ICE approaches me in the airport?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At border checkpoints — including airports — officers can ask questions, carry out personal searches and detain people with wide latitude, Ahilan Arulanantham, co-director of the UCLA School of Law’s Center for Immigration Law & Policy, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5517998/ice-arrest-rules-explained\">told NPR\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Blazer said that in order for ICE to arrest someone for an immigration violation \u003cem>without\u003c/em> a warrant, they would \u003ca href=\"https://immigrantjustice.org/sites/default/files/content-type/page/documents/2025-01/Castanon-Nava_training_slides_2025-01-16-english.pdf\">need to establish probable cause\u003c/a> that the person is in the U.S. in violation of U.S. immigration laws — and that the person is likely to escape before a warrant can be obtained for the arrest. There has been \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/five-individuals-launch-class-action-lawsuit-over-warrantless-immigration-arrests-in-north-carolina\">recent litigation across the country\u003c/a> challenging some of ICE’s warrantless arrests, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12067757\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12067757\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Passengers walk past a flight board in Harvey Milk Terminal 1 at San Francisco International Airport on Dec. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>ICE officers \u003cstrong>“\u003c/strong>have no additional authority in an airport,” Blazer said. But in reality, he said, the constitutional protections and rights people have can be “a lot trickier to make the choice to exercise them” in an airport setting for most people — who are dealing not only with the added pressures of catching expensive flights but also the impatience of other passengers in the security line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, people — whether \u003ca href=\"https://www.ilrc.org/community-resources/know-your-rights-faq#item-5131\">citizens or immigrants\u003c/a> — have the right to ask an immigration officer, “Am I free to go?” If they don’t have a specific, individualized, reasonable suspicion that you’ve committed a crime, they can’t question you further and you can go, Blazer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But let’s think about how that works in the airport context,” he said. “‘Am I free to go?’ and leaving means that I’m probably leaving the airport to get myself out of a situation, and I may miss my flight at that point.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"Questions\">\u003c/a>Do I have to answer ICE’s questions at the airport?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If an ICE agent asks you questions in the airport, you “have the same right to remain silent as you do on the street,” Blazer said. “Nothing changes just because you’re in an airport.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But this is another example of how the pressures of the airport setting can affect your situation, Blazer said. If you choose to exercise your right to remain silent, the officer may pull you out of the security line and try to ask more questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have the same rights, but in that environment, there are additional costs associated with exercising those rights,” Blazer said. “Many people in that situation, out of their own self-interest … ‘go along to get along’ as much as possible.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>What if ICE asks me for ID?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2026/03/23/ice-agents-airports-tsa-my-rights/89278550007/\">reporting from USA Today\u003c/a>, travelers do need to provide identification and comply with TSA screening to board a flight. But generally, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ilrc.org/community-resources/know-your-rights-faq#item-5131\">citizens and immigrants \u003c/a>have the right to remain silent when talking to law enforcement, including ICE.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Asian Law Caucus said that if you believe you are being taken into ICE custody, \u003ca href=\"https://www.asianlawcaucus.org/news-resources/guides-reports/know-your-rights-at-airports\">you should practice your right to remain silent and should not answer any questions\u003c/a>. You should also not sign any documents without a lawyer reviewing them, the organization said.[aside postID=news_12038914 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/ICE-three-agents.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Blazer said that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12065885/ice-immigration-us-citizens-detained-carry-passports-documentation-green-card\">federal law \u003c/a>said people with lawful permanent residency or other visas that grant them lawful status must carry proof of their status with them — like their green card. “And it may be in their interest, in terms of avoiding further improper questioning or improper unlawful arrests, to answer those questions and to show that proof of status,” Blazer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So even though you have a right \u003cem>not \u003c/em>to, I want to make clear that people are going to need to make an individualized decision as to whether it’s in their interest to exercise that right,” he said. “Especially if they are an adult green cardholder or somebody else who is subject to a federal law requiring them to carry proof of their status at all times.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"Film\">\u003c/a>Is it legal to film ICE?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“Taking photographs and video of things that are plainly visible in public spaces is \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/photographers-rights/filming-and-photographing-police\">a constitutional right\u003c/a> — and that includes police and other government officials carrying out their duties,” the ACLU’s guidance reads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And while there’s no Supreme Court ruling on an unambiguous First Amendment right to film law enforcement officers, “all of the seven U.S. Federal Circuit Courts that have considered the issue have pretty much said there is\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12069590/are-you-allowed-to-record-ice\"> a First Amendment right to record the police \u003c/a>and observe the police,” criminal justice reporter C.J. Ciaramella at Reason told KQED’s Close All Tabs podcast earlier this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12068316\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/BorderPatrolAgentsGetty.jpeg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12068316\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/BorderPatrolAgentsGetty.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/BorderPatrolAgentsGetty.jpeg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/BorderPatrolAgentsGetty-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/BorderPatrolAgentsGetty-1536x1025.jpeg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gregory Bovino, former Border Patrol commander at large (center), marches with federal agents to the Edward R. Roybal Federal Building after U.S. Border Patrol agents produced a show of force outside the Japanese American National Museum, where Gov. Newsom was holding a redistricting press conference on Thursday, Aug. 14, 2025, in Los Angeles. \u003ccite>(Carlin Stiehl / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But airports \u003cem>could\u003c/em> be a potentially harder environment to film, Blazer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not as though the First Amendment doesn’t exist at airports, but airports are not traditional public domain in a way that parks [are],” Blazer said. For example, some TSA security lines have a sign nearby that says “no photos.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They rarely enforce that, but it just shows you that it’s already a more regulated environment in which they can impose certain restrictions,” Blazer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It \u003cem>is\u003c/em> lawful to film law enforcement in “any open, visible place when they’re performing their duties,” Blazer said, echoing the guidance laid out in \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/photographers-rights/filming-and-photographing-police\">this thorough guide by the ACLU\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But at the same time, it can be permissible for airport operators to impose certain reasonable rules, and those rules might include restricting photographing in particular areas of the airport,” Blazer said.[aside postID=news_12026817 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/02/GettyImages-2197914000-1020x680.jpg'] Practically, it could be hard to argue against an airport official who is telling you not to take photos in an area, Blazer said. And there may be a legal fight after the fact, “if a person doesn’t comply with that order and is arrested or is taken out of the line,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But, I think, the practical reality is that” in an airport “environment, it gets harder to exercise that right,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11871364/recording-the-police-what-to-know-and-how-to-stay-safe-doing-it\">Bystander videos also provide important counternarratives\u003c/a> to official law enforcement accounts. After the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti by ICE officers in Minnesota earlier this year, Trump administration officials immediately claimed Pretti was a “domestic terrorist” intending to “massacre” officers — \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2026/01/25/nx-s1-5687875/minneapolis-shooting-minnesota-ice-alex-pretti-dhs-investigation\">claims contradicted\u003c/a> by the multiple eyewitness videos taken of the killing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Officials with the Trump administration have, however, \u003ca href=\"https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/secretary-kristi-noem-addresses-surge-in-attacks-on-ice-agents-in-tampa-dhs-us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-agents-florida-department-of-homeland-security-july-13-2025\">characterized filming ICE as “violence” and “doxing,”\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12069590/are-you-allowed-to-record-ice\">Americans have faced detention\u003c/a> by ICE \u003ca href=\"https://www.fox9.com/news/ice-detains-woodbury-man-filming-agents\">after filming agents.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So all in all, while recording ICE might be your constitutional right, it also brings increasing risks. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11871364/recording-the-police-what-to-know-and-how-to-stay-safe-doing-it\">Read more about the logistics — and risks — of recording law enforcement officers like ICE agents.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>What do immigrant advocates say about traveling during this time? \u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>San Francisco advocacy group \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/sfrrn_/p/DWPQRS4lMjl/?img_index=2\">Mission Action\u003c/a> warns that noncitizens who do not currently have legal status “should carefully consider the risks of air travel, including domestic flights within the U.S.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Recent reporting suggests increased risks, including that TSA may be sharing traveler information with ICE, which could expose individuals to enforcement,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/sfrrn_/p/DWPQRS4lMjl/?img_index=2\">their social media post\u003c/a> reads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12077525\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/GettyImages-2267556279-scaled-e1774466569963.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12077525\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/GettyImages-2267556279-scaled-e1774466569963.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Atlanta Police Department officers look on as travelers stand in long lines at Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport on March 23, 2026, in Atlanta, Georgia. \u003ccite>(Photo by Megan Varner/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Alameda County Immigration Legal Education Partnership said people should \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/DWMjSDSgeoZ/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D\">“talk to an attorney before flying to understand your risk.”\u003c/a> The \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/DWMjSDSgeoZ/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D\">guidance\u003c/a> suggested people plan extra time before traveling and keep key documents — like \u003ca href=\"https://www.nilc.org/resources/community-alert-immigration-arrests-at-airports/\">proof of lawful status, pending applications or certified copies of criminal cases if the case was closed\u003c/a> — on hand. The organization emphasized that people should not “sign anything” they’re given by immigration agents that they “don’t understand.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ACLU Northern California has \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunorcal.org/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-us-airports-and-ports-entry/\">a page that breaks down your rights at the airport \u003c/a>and whether or not border officers can ask about your immigration status.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to ACLU NorCal, U.S. citizens only have to \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunorcal.org/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-us-airports-and-ports-entry/\">“answer questions establishing your identity and citizenship\u003c/a> (in addition to customs-related questions).”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, the organization cautions that \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-when-encountering-law-enforcement-airports-and-other-ports-entry-us\">“refusing to answer routine questions \u003c/a>about the nature and purpose of your travel could result in delay and/or further inspection.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Noncitizen visa holders and visitors who refuse to answer questions could face a delay or be denied entry. Lawful permanent residents, like green card holders, only have to answer questions about their identity and permanent residency, \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunorcal.org/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-us-airports-and-ports-entry/\">according to ACLU NorCal.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Refusal to answer other questions will likely cause delay, but officials may not deny you entry into the U.S. for failure to answer other questions,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunorcal.org/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-us-airports-and-ports-entry/\">ACLU NorCal\u003c/a> advised legal permanent residents — noting that green card status “may be revoked only by an immigration judge,” and warning, “Do not give up your green card voluntarily!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Asian Law Caucus also has \u003ca href=\"https://www.asianlawcaucus.org/news-resources/guides-reports/know-your-rights-at-airports\">a helpful chart\u003c/a> on what people of differing statuses can expect in airports when it comes to their baggage, device searches and length of potential detainment.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>What should I do if I think I see ICE in an airport?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Instead of posting possible ICE sightings to social media, immigration advocates \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12025647/what-to-do-if-you-encounter-ice\">highly encourage\u003c/a> people to call them first instead. With these hotlines, advocates can \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12024332/ice-raids-in-california-how-to-sort-fact-from-rumor-online\">fact-check these sightings\u003c/a>, with the goal of preventing the spread of misinformation online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can find the complete and updated list of rapid response numbers on \u003ca href=\"https://www.ccijustice.org/carrn\">the California Collaborative for Immigrant Justice’s website\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can also follow these organizations on \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/acilep_rapidresponse/\">their social media accounts\u003c/a> to see if these are confirmed sightings or just rumors.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Immigration agents detained someone I know. How do I find them?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Typically, a person of any status can be \u003ca href=\"https://www.asianlawcaucus.org/news-resources/guides-reports/know-your-rights-at-airports\">detained up to 72 hours at a port of entry\u003c/a>, according to the Asian Law Caucus. They can also be transferred to criminal or ICE custody.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED has\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12047506/searching-for-a-loved-one-in-ice-custody-heres-what-you-need-to-know\"> a guide that walks you through\u003c/a> how to potentially locate someone through different detention centers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The primary way to find someone is through \u003ca href=\"https://locator.ice.gov/odls/#/search\">ICE’s Online Detainee Locator System\u003c/a>. You can also call ICE at \u003ca href=\"https://www.help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-1706?language=en_US\">866-347-2423\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the \u003ca href=\"https://help.asylumadvocacy.org/faqs-other-topics/#detained-loved-one\">Asylum Seeker Advocacy Project\u003c/a>, it may take a few days for a person to appear in the ICE database. If the name you’re searching for isn’t showing up in the ICE system — or if you’re concerned about their safety and possible deportation — you can seek out assistance from advocacy organizations such as \u003ca href=\"https://www.freedomforimmigrants.org/hotline\">Freedom for Immigrants\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12013522/free-legal-aid-in-the-bay-area-how-it-works-where-to-find-it\">Read more on how to find free or low-cost legal aid in the Bay Area.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story contains reporting from KQED’s Katie DeBenedetti, Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí, Tyche Hendricks and Carly Severn.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This weekend, President Donald Trump announced that as of Monday, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents would be deployed to airports to support TSA operations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Trump administration said that ICE officers would be on duty to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12077292/is-ice-at-sfo-heres-what-we-know-about-videos-of-woman-being-forcefully-detained\">assist with airport security staffing\u003c/a>. But the presence of ICE officers has \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeBTNUdzvN8\">sparked fear and\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2026/03/23/ice-officers-at-airports-could-sow-fear-latino-group-warns/89294194007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z116320p119050l004550c119050e1123xxv116320d--45--b--45--&gca-ft=168&gca-ds=sophi\">uncertainty \u003c/a>among travelers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco International Airport, the Bay Area’s biggest airport, has been spared long wait lines by the fact that its security screening is \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/flysfo/p/DWHseVzDnnc/\">contracted by a private company\u003c/a> rather than TSA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But on Sunday night, in an incident\u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/1s1a3lq/ice_already_causing_havoc_at_sfo/\"> captured on video\u003c/a>, plainclothes immigration officers were seen at SFO \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12077292/is-ice-at-sfo-heres-what-we-know-about-videos-of-woman-being-forcefully-detained\">forcefully handling a woman in front of her young child\u003c/a>. SFO was not on the list of 14 airports \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/tsa-wait-times-ice-airports-03-23-26?post-id=cmn37qf65000q3b6rfo32wpep\">obtained by CNN\u003c/a> where ICE would be appearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jump straight to: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#SFO\">Why was ICE at SFO on Sunday?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#Questions\">Do I have to answer ICE’s questions in an airport?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#Film\">Is it legal to film ICE in an airport?\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12067064\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEATING-91-BL-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12067064\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEATING-91-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEATING-91-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEATING-91-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEATING-91-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The International Terminal at San Francisco International Airport on Dec. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>So what should you know about ICE in U.S. airports right now? 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The men are not wearing visible badges or agency markings, but the Department of Homeland Security \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2036158826341077203?s=46&t=PMxn5DJx4Cr-fWgaQBUvVA\">said\u003c/a> on the social media platform X Monday that they were, in fact, ICE officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to a DHS spokesperson, the woman and her daughter were arrested at the airport and were being “escorted to the international terminal for processing” when the woman tried to flee. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12077292/is-ice-at-sfo-heres-what-we-know-about-videos-of-woman-being-forcefully-detained\">Read more about Sunday night’s incident at SFO.\u003c/a> As reported by \u003cem>The New York Times\u003c/em> on Tuesday evening, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/tsa-data-ice-deportation-san-francisco-airport.html\">ICE had originally been alerted\u003c/a> to the pair’s presence at SFO by TSA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/flysfo/p/DWPA-h5D_QG/\">a statement released by SFO\u003c/a>, the airport was “not involved in or notified in advance of this incident.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We understand federal officers were transporting two individuals on an outbound flight when this incident occurred,” the statement reads. “We believe this is an isolated incident and have no reason to suspect broader enforcement action at SFO.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/DWPGTBvmGX9/\">San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lurie echoed the airport’s statement on Monday in a social media post\u003c/a>. Lurie said in his statement that local law enforcement “does not participate in federal civil immigration enforcement,” although \u003ca href=\"https://missionlocal.org/2026/03/attorneys-say-sfpd-may-have-violated-the-law-during-ice-arrest-at-sfo/\">some immigration attorneys have nonetheless questioned SFPD’s presence\u003c/a> during the arrest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As of Monday afternoon, local immigration advocates said they were \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/sfrrn_/p/DWPQRS4lMjl/\">still assessing the situation\u003c/a> and working to “confirm all the facts related to this incident.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“After killing people in our streets and detaining U.S. citizens, ICE has lost all credibility and trust with the public,” Bay Area Rep. Kevin Mullin and Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi said in a joint statement. “We demand immediate answers as to the mother’s and her child’s condition and the grounds for their detainment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Can ICE arrest people at the airport?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Yes, there have been documented instances of \u003ca href=\"https://www.nilc.org/resources/community-alert-immigration-arrests-at-airports/\">ICE arresting people at airports\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jonathan Blazer, director of border strategies and senior advisor at the American Civil Liberties Union, said that there is “nothing that categorically prohibits ICE from going into an airport as an immigration enforcement agent.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, Blazer said, ICE agents have used commercial flights in the past to transport individuals on deportation flights — or to transfer arrested people to immigration detention centers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12067210\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEating-86-BL_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12067210\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEating-86-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEating-86-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEating-86-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/251210-SFOEating-86-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Passengers wait for their flight at San Francisco International Airport on Dec. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Additionally, as first reported by \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/us/politics/immigration-tsa-passenger-data.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U8.1lIj.Qa1WfLVCwcJB&smid=url-share\">\u003cem>The New York Times\u003c/em>\u003c/a> in December 2025, TSA has shared information about air travelers who are believed to be under deportation orders with ICE, enabling immigration agents to make arrests at the airport.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Blazer said that this week’s deployment of ICE to airports — the “mere presence for this purpose, in an untargeted fashion, in large numbers” — was “unprecedented.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ice-tsa-wait-times-shutdown-03-24-26?post-id=cmn48kb0y00823b6p6u9q5bxl\">CNN on Tuesday morning\u003c/a>, Trump said that agents will continue arresting undocumented people, but said of ICE agents in airports: “That’s not why they’re there; they’re really there to help.” (Most TSA officers are \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-when-encountering-law-enforcement-airports-and-other-ports-entry-us#what-types-of-law-enforcement-officers-and-other-government-officials-could-i-encounter-during-the-security-screening-process-at-the-airport\">not commissioned law enforcement officers\u003c/a>.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Part of what’s so challenging here is that the Trump administration hasn’t really made clear what authorities they are vesting with ICE as part of this mission,” Blazer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In its roundup of \u003ca href=\"https://www.nilc.org/resources/community-alert-immigration-arrests-at-airports/\">risks of air travel,\u003c/a> the National Immigration Law Center said that for people who are undocumented, have temporary immigration status or who are under a deportation order, there is “a significant risk of arrest at a U.S. airport.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, NILC also said that “all non-citizens face some risk” while traveling through U.S. airports, including those with green cards, if they have certain criminal convictions or who have Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals status.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates encourage \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/DWMjSDSgeoZ/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D\">passengers who aren’t U.S. citizens to talk to a lawyer\u003c/a> about their specific situation before traveling.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Customs and Border Protection already regularly works in airports. What’s the difference between their powers and ICE’s?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>ICE and CBP are both immigration enforcement agencies within DHS.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While \u003ca href=\"https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10362\">ICE conducts enforcement within the U.S.\u003c/a> and manages detention and deportation operations, CBP conducts inspections at all U.S. “ports of entry” — at land borders, seaports and airports.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp> ACLU’s Blazer said that while CBP has a lot of “power when they’re screening people coming in on an international flight,” that doesn’t apply to \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/cbp-cant-detain-domestic-flight-passengers-refusing-suspicionless-id-checks#:~:text=CBP%20is%20bound%20by%20those,actions%20that%20participation%20is%20voluntary.\">domestic flights\u003c/a>. For example, CBP — and ICE — should not be able to check your electronic devices without a warrant for a domestic flight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nicole Hallett, director of the Immigrants’ Rights Clinic and a clinical professor of law at the University of Chicago, told the \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/tips/ice-agents-tsa-airports/\">\u003cem>Washington Post\u003c/em>\u003c/a> that ICE cannot search a passenger’s personal belongings without a warrant — and can only do this if they are working on behalf of an agency that \u003cem>can\u003c/em>, like CBP.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If they’re acting as a TSA agent, they have to follow TSA rules. If they’re acting as a CBP agent and doing Border Patrol work, then they have the authority that Border Patrol has,” Hallett said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And if they are just merely standing in the airport as ICE officers, then they have the same legal authority that any ICE officer standing in a public location has,” she said. (Regardless, she said that ICE can \u003ca href=\"https://archive.ph/YWJ1z#selection-853.62-853.119\">approach passengers anywhere\u003c/a> in the airport, including after security.)\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>What should I do if ICE approaches me in the airport?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At border checkpoints — including airports — officers can ask questions, carry out personal searches and detain people with wide latitude, Ahilan Arulanantham, co-director of the UCLA School of Law’s Center for Immigration Law & Policy, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5517998/ice-arrest-rules-explained\">told NPR\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Blazer said that in order for ICE to arrest someone for an immigration violation \u003cem>without\u003c/em> a warrant, they would \u003ca href=\"https://immigrantjustice.org/sites/default/files/content-type/page/documents/2025-01/Castanon-Nava_training_slides_2025-01-16-english.pdf\">need to establish probable cause\u003c/a> that the person is in the U.S. in violation of U.S. immigration laws — and that the person is likely to escape before a warrant can be obtained for the arrest. There has been \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/five-individuals-launch-class-action-lawsuit-over-warrantless-immigration-arrests-in-north-carolina\">recent litigation across the country\u003c/a> challenging some of ICE’s warrantless arrests, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12067757\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12067757\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Passengers walk past a flight board in Harvey Milk Terminal 1 at San Francisco International Airport on Dec. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>ICE officers \u003cstrong>“\u003c/strong>have no additional authority in an airport,” Blazer said. But in reality, he said, the constitutional protections and rights people have can be “a lot trickier to make the choice to exercise them” in an airport setting for most people — who are dealing not only with the added pressures of catching expensive flights but also the impatience of other passengers in the security line.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, people — whether \u003ca href=\"https://www.ilrc.org/community-resources/know-your-rights-faq#item-5131\">citizens or immigrants\u003c/a> — have the right to ask an immigration officer, “Am I free to go?” If they don’t have a specific, individualized, reasonable suspicion that you’ve committed a crime, they can’t question you further and you can go, Blazer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But let’s think about how that works in the airport context,” he said. “‘Am I free to go?’ and leaving means that I’m probably leaving the airport to get myself out of a situation, and I may miss my flight at that point.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"Questions\">\u003c/a>Do I have to answer ICE’s questions at the airport?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If an ICE agent asks you questions in the airport, you “have the same right to remain silent as you do on the street,” Blazer said. “Nothing changes just because you’re in an airport.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But this is another example of how the pressures of the airport setting can affect your situation, Blazer said. If you choose to exercise your right to remain silent, the officer may pull you out of the security line and try to ask more questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have the same rights, but in that environment, there are additional costs associated with exercising those rights,” Blazer said. “Many people in that situation, out of their own self-interest … ‘go along to get along’ as much as possible.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>What if ICE asks me for ID?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2026/03/23/ice-agents-airports-tsa-my-rights/89278550007/\">reporting from USA Today\u003c/a>, travelers do need to provide identification and comply with TSA screening to board a flight. But generally, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ilrc.org/community-resources/know-your-rights-faq#item-5131\">citizens and immigrants \u003c/a>have the right to remain silent when talking to law enforcement, including ICE.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Asian Law Caucus said that if you believe you are being taken into ICE custody, \u003ca href=\"https://www.asianlawcaucus.org/news-resources/guides-reports/know-your-rights-at-airports\">you should practice your right to remain silent and should not answer any questions\u003c/a>. You should also not sign any documents without a lawyer reviewing them, the organization said.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Blazer said that \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12065885/ice-immigration-us-citizens-detained-carry-passports-documentation-green-card\">federal law \u003c/a>said people with lawful permanent residency or other visas that grant them lawful status must carry proof of their status with them — like their green card. “And it may be in their interest, in terms of avoiding further improper questioning or improper unlawful arrests, to answer those questions and to show that proof of status,” Blazer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So even though you have a right \u003cem>not \u003c/em>to, I want to make clear that people are going to need to make an individualized decision as to whether it’s in their interest to exercise that right,” he said. “Especially if they are an adult green cardholder or somebody else who is subject to a federal law requiring them to carry proof of their status at all times.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"Film\">\u003c/a>Is it legal to film ICE?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“Taking photographs and video of things that are plainly visible in public spaces is \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/photographers-rights/filming-and-photographing-police\">a constitutional right\u003c/a> — and that includes police and other government officials carrying out their duties,” the ACLU’s guidance reads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And while there’s no Supreme Court ruling on an unambiguous First Amendment right to film law enforcement officers, “all of the seven U.S. Federal Circuit Courts that have considered the issue have pretty much said there is\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12069590/are-you-allowed-to-record-ice\"> a First Amendment right to record the police \u003c/a>and observe the police,” criminal justice reporter C.J. Ciaramella at Reason told KQED’s Close All Tabs podcast earlier this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12068316\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/BorderPatrolAgentsGetty.jpeg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12068316\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/BorderPatrolAgentsGetty.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/BorderPatrolAgentsGetty.jpeg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/BorderPatrolAgentsGetty-160x107.jpeg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/12/BorderPatrolAgentsGetty-1536x1025.jpeg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gregory Bovino, former Border Patrol commander at large (center), marches with federal agents to the Edward R. Roybal Federal Building after U.S. Border Patrol agents produced a show of force outside the Japanese American National Museum, where Gov. Newsom was holding a redistricting press conference on Thursday, Aug. 14, 2025, in Los Angeles. \u003ccite>(Carlin Stiehl / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But airports \u003cem>could\u003c/em> be a potentially harder environment to film, Blazer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not as though the First Amendment doesn’t exist at airports, but airports are not traditional public domain in a way that parks [are],” Blazer said. For example, some TSA security lines have a sign nearby that says “no photos.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They rarely enforce that, but it just shows you that it’s already a more regulated environment in which they can impose certain restrictions,” Blazer said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It \u003cem>is\u003c/em> lawful to film law enforcement in “any open, visible place when they’re performing their duties,” Blazer said, echoing the guidance laid out in \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/photographers-rights/filming-and-photographing-police\">this thorough guide by the ACLU\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But at the same time, it can be permissible for airport operators to impose certain reasonable rules, and those rules might include restricting photographing in particular areas of the airport,” Blazer said.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp> Practically, it could be hard to argue against an airport official who is telling you not to take photos in an area, Blazer said. And there may be a legal fight after the fact, “if a person doesn’t comply with that order and is arrested or is taken out of the line,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But, I think, the practical reality is that” in an airport “environment, it gets harder to exercise that right,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11871364/recording-the-police-what-to-know-and-how-to-stay-safe-doing-it\">Bystander videos also provide important counternarratives\u003c/a> to official law enforcement accounts. After the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti by ICE officers in Minnesota earlier this year, Trump administration officials immediately claimed Pretti was a “domestic terrorist” intending to “massacre” officers — \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2026/01/25/nx-s1-5687875/minneapolis-shooting-minnesota-ice-alex-pretti-dhs-investigation\">claims contradicted\u003c/a> by the multiple eyewitness videos taken of the killing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Officials with the Trump administration have, however, \u003ca href=\"https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/secretary-kristi-noem-addresses-surge-in-attacks-on-ice-agents-in-tampa-dhs-us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-agents-florida-department-of-homeland-security-july-13-2025\">characterized filming ICE as “violence” and “doxing,”\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12069590/are-you-allowed-to-record-ice\">Americans have faced detention\u003c/a> by ICE \u003ca href=\"https://www.fox9.com/news/ice-detains-woodbury-man-filming-agents\">after filming agents.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So all in all, while recording ICE might be your constitutional right, it also brings increasing risks. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11871364/recording-the-police-what-to-know-and-how-to-stay-safe-doing-it\">Read more about the logistics — and risks — of recording law enforcement officers like ICE agents.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>What do immigrant advocates say about traveling during this time? \u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>San Francisco advocacy group \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/sfrrn_/p/DWPQRS4lMjl/?img_index=2\">Mission Action\u003c/a> warns that noncitizens who do not currently have legal status “should carefully consider the risks of air travel, including domestic flights within the U.S.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Recent reporting suggests increased risks, including that TSA may be sharing traveler information with ICE, which could expose individuals to enforcement,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/sfrrn_/p/DWPQRS4lMjl/?img_index=2\">their social media post\u003c/a> reads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12077525\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/GettyImages-2267556279-scaled-e1774466569963.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12077525\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/GettyImages-2267556279-scaled-e1774466569963.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Atlanta Police Department officers look on as travelers stand in long lines at Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport on March 23, 2026, in Atlanta, Georgia. \u003ccite>(Photo by Megan Varner/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Alameda County Immigration Legal Education Partnership said people should \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/DWMjSDSgeoZ/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D\">“talk to an attorney before flying to understand your risk.”\u003c/a> The \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/DWMjSDSgeoZ/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D\">guidance\u003c/a> suggested people plan extra time before traveling and keep key documents — like \u003ca href=\"https://www.nilc.org/resources/community-alert-immigration-arrests-at-airports/\">proof of lawful status, pending applications or certified copies of criminal cases if the case was closed\u003c/a> — on hand. The organization emphasized that people should not “sign anything” they’re given by immigration agents that they “don’t understand.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The ACLU Northern California has \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunorcal.org/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-us-airports-and-ports-entry/\">a page that breaks down your rights at the airport \u003c/a>and whether or not border officers can ask about your immigration status.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to ACLU NorCal, U.S. citizens only have to \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunorcal.org/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-us-airports-and-ports-entry/\">“answer questions establishing your identity and citizenship\u003c/a> (in addition to customs-related questions).”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, the organization cautions that \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-when-encountering-law-enforcement-airports-and-other-ports-entry-us\">“refusing to answer routine questions \u003c/a>about the nature and purpose of your travel could result in delay and/or further inspection.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Noncitizen visa holders and visitors who refuse to answer questions could face a delay or be denied entry. Lawful permanent residents, like green card holders, only have to answer questions about their identity and permanent residency, \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunorcal.org/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-us-airports-and-ports-entry/\">according to ACLU NorCal.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Refusal to answer other questions will likely cause delay, but officials may not deny you entry into the U.S. for failure to answer other questions,” \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunorcal.org/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-us-airports-and-ports-entry/\">ACLU NorCal\u003c/a> advised legal permanent residents — noting that green card status “may be revoked only by an immigration judge,” and warning, “Do not give up your green card voluntarily!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Asian Law Caucus also has \u003ca href=\"https://www.asianlawcaucus.org/news-resources/guides-reports/know-your-rights-at-airports\">a helpful chart\u003c/a> on what people of differing statuses can expect in airports when it comes to their baggage, device searches and length of potential detainment.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>What should I do if I think I see ICE in an airport?\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Instead of posting possible ICE sightings to social media, immigration advocates \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12025647/what-to-do-if-you-encounter-ice\">highly encourage\u003c/a> people to call them first instead. With these hotlines, advocates can \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12024332/ice-raids-in-california-how-to-sort-fact-from-rumor-online\">fact-check these sightings\u003c/a>, with the goal of preventing the spread of misinformation online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can find the complete and updated list of rapid response numbers on \u003ca href=\"https://www.ccijustice.org/carrn\">the California Collaborative for Immigrant Justice’s website\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can also follow these organizations on \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/acilep_rapidresponse/\">their social media accounts\u003c/a> to see if these are confirmed sightings or just rumors.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Immigration agents detained someone I know. 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"content": "\u003cp>While Bay Area officials criticized the actions of plainclothes immigration officers seen forcefully handling a woman at \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/san-francisco-international-airport\">San Francisco International Airport\u003c/a> on Sunday night, they said there does not seem to be a wider federal operation at SFO.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In footage that spread quickly \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/1s1a3lq/ice_already_causing_havoc_at_sfo/\">on social media\u003c/a>, men wearing dark clothing without visible badges or agency markings are seen pulling a visibly distraught woman from a bench in an airport terminal around 10 p.m. Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the men pries her fingers from the bench while the other pushes her into a wheelchair. Eyewitnesses can be heard asking the agents to show their badges and provide badge numbers. Nearby, a girl who appears to be about 10 years old is heard crying.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One person in the background of the video said, “This is illegal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For ICE agents to be at SFO, deporting someone with a child and engaging in pretty violent behavior towards that person, it is so disgusting and unacceptable. We want ICE to get the hell out,” state Sen. Scott Wiener said Monday, speaking to reporters outside of SFO’s international terminal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson, the woman and her daughter were arrested at the airport and were being “escorted to the international terminal for processing” when the woman tried to flee. The family had a final order of removal from an immigration judge in 2019, according to the DHS spokesperson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SFO spokesperson Doug Yakel said in a statement that the agents were “transporting two individuals on an outbound flight when this incident occurred,” though DHS did not clarify if the woman had been arrested prior to arriving at the airport.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12067757\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12067757\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/251210-SFOEating-24-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Passengers walk past a flight board in Harvey Milk Terminal 1 at San Francisco International Airport on Dec. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Mayor Daniel Lurie said in a statement on social media that he found the incident upsetting but believes it was an isolated event.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have no reason to believe there is broader federal immigration enforcement at SFO,” he wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The detention comes as Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/tsa-wait-times-ice-airports-03-23-26\">deployed to more than a dozen U.S. airports\u003c/a>, a move that the Trump administration said is meant to supplement security staffing during a partial government shutdown that has led to long waits for air travelers across the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Transportation Security Administration employees have been working without pay since DHS funding lapsed in February, and now many are calling out sick or resigning, according to the agency. SFO has privately contracted security screeners, who are not affected by the lapse in federal funding.[aside postID=news_12076626 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/GettyImages-2231342596.jpg']Videos of the SFO incident show a line of San Francisco police officers standing between a crowd of onlookers and the federal authorities detaining the woman. The San Francisco Police Department said its officers responded to the scene around 10 p.m. after receiving a 911 call related to the incident, but that they were not involved in the woman’s detention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SFPD spokesperson Robert Rueca said in a statement that the officers determined that the incident involved federal law enforcement agents and “remained at the scene to maintain public safety.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The San Francisco Rapid Response Network, which verifies community alerts about possible ICE sightings, was still trying to determine details midday Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Milli Atkinson, who directs the Immigrant Legal Defense Program at the Bar Association of San Francisco, said travelers who are concerned about ICE should refer to the American Civil Liberties Union’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.aclunorcal.org/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-us-airports-and-ports-entry/\">“Know Your Rights in Airports”\u003c/a> guidelines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The video of a mother being aggressively detained by ICE agents in front of her daughter at the San Francisco International Airport is yet another heartbreaking example of how Trump’s inhumane immigration enforcement is terrorizing communities across America,” Bay Area Rep. 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400\">starting \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">your journey to find recommendations nearby.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#SanFranciscothePeninsulaBARTstationsincluding\">San Francisco & the Peninsula BART stations, including:\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Embarcadero\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Powell Street\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">24th Street Mission\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Daly City\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#OaklandBARTstationsincluding\">Oakland BART stations, including:\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">MacArthur\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rockridge\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">19th Street and 12th Street stations\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Lake Merritt\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">West Oakland\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#OtherEastBayBARTstationsincluding\">Other East Bay BART stations, including:\u003cbr>\n\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Richmond\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">El Cerrito stations \u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Downtown Berkeley\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">San Leandro\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hayward\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Fremont\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"SanFranciscothePeninsulaBARTstationsincluding\">\u003c/a>I want to cross the Bay from San Francisco or the Peninsula\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Assuming that BART trains are still running through San Francisco, you can take any train to Montgomery Street station to access the city’s \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfmta.com/projects/salesforce-transit-center\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Salesforce Transit Center\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> nearby. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you’re planning to catch a ferry, you can get off at Embarcadero station. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12063708\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12063708\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/240111-TransitFile-06-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/240111-TransitFile-06-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/240111-TransitFile-06-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/240111-TransitFile-06-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A MUNI train stops at the Embarcadero station in San Francisco on Jan. 11, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If trains are \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">not \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">running through the city, you can hop on a 14, 14R or 49 bus that connects most BART stations in San Francisco (to make roughly the same journey within the city that you would have done using BART, to get you to one of the connecting transit agencies below).\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Taking AC Transit across the Bay Bridge \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While San Francisco-bound AC Transit buses will have different starting points, all East Bay-bound routes will start at Salesforce Transit Center. The Transbay \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/NL\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">NL\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/O\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">O\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/F\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">F\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/J\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">J\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/L\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">L\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> and \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/W\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">W\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> lines will make stops at or near BART stations, while others — like the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/P\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">P\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — also cross the bay but will pass through areas not served by BART.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Taking the San Francisco Bay Ferry across the bay\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All East Bay-bound ferries set sail from the San Francisco Ferry Building, near the Embarcadero BART/Muni station.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12039604\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12039604\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A San Francisco Bay Ferry pulls into the Golden Gate Ferry Terminal in San Francisco on Dec. 13, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On all days of the week, there are ferries that can take you to the Oakland Ferry Terminal in Jack London Square, a 20-minute walk from 12th Street station and roughly a 25-minute walk from 19th Street station. Other destinations are Richmond, Vallejo and Alameda Island.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You can buy an actual ferry ticket in the Ferry Building, pay with your Clipper card or \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12065714/clipper-card-new-bart-caltrain-login-next-generation-discounts\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">tap on and off using a credit or debit card\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Taking Caltrain south to go \u003ci>around \u003c/i>the bay\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A significantly longer option that will require taking the southbound Caltrain to the end of the line at San José Diridon station. From there, you can hop on the 500 Rapid VTA bus line that goes straight to Berryessa BART, usually a 20-minute ride.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12076190\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12076190\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/3W0A6625-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/3W0A6625-2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/3W0A6625-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/3W0A6625-2-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">One of Caltrain’s electric trains, which may offer BART users a way to go around the Bay in the event of a Transbay Tube shutdown. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Caltrain)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This option also assumes \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bart.gov/system-map\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BART’s orange line\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — which connects San José with Richmond and offers stops at or further connections to all East Bay stations — is still running.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>A bonus option for folks starting their commute from South San Francisco\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The South San Francisco ferry connects the South San Francisco Ferry Terminal to Oakland’s Jack London Square, which is near 12th Street and 19th Street BART stations.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12063162\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12063162\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/20251103_SB304_Folo_GH-6_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/20251103_SB304_Folo_GH-6_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/20251103_SB304_Folo_GH-6_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/20251103_SB304_Folo_GH-6_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The city-owned parking structure at 255 Second St. on Nov. 3, 2025, in Oakland. The garage serves ferry commuters and visitors to Jack London Square. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">South San Francisco ferry service is only available on weekdays, with three ferries scheduled for the morning and one in the afternoon. You can ride the 130 SamTrans bus from South San Francisco BART to the Ferry Terminal.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"OaklandBARTstationsincluding\">\u003c/a>I want to cross the bay from Oakland\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Taking AC Transit across the Bay Bridge\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/NL\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">NL line\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: An option for commuters waiting at 12th Street and 19th Street stations. Runs from early mornings till past midnight, seven days a week.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/O\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">O line\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: An option for commuters waiting at Fruitvale and Lake Merritt stations. Runs from early mornings till past midnight, seven days a week.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/W\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">W line\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: An option for commuters waiting at Lake Merritt and 12th Street stations. Note: Only runs on weekdays during morning and evening commute times.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/800\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">800 All Nighter line\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: an option for late-night commuters waiting at Richmond, El Cerrito del Norte, El Cerrito Plaza, Downtown Berkeley, Ashby, MacArthur, 19th Street, 12th Street and West Oakland stations. This route actually starts at Richmond station around the same time that the last BART train leaves and moves through multiple East Bay cities while BART stops running overnight. Runs until early mornings, seven days a week.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taking the San Francisco Bay Ferry across the bay\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://sanfranciscobayferry.com/routes-schedules/oakland-alameda/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oakland & Alameda ferry\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: An option for commuters waiting at 12th Street and 19th Street Oakland stations. Ferries depart every 30 minutes from the Oakland Ferry Terminal in Jack London Square, which is a 20-minute walk from the 12th Street BART station and roughly a 25-minute walk from the 19th Street BART station. You can also ride the 72, 72L or 72M AC Transit bus from either BART station to Jack London Square for a faster journey. This ferry is available seven days a week.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://sanfranciscobayferry.com/routes-schedules/alameda-seaplane/#map-scroll\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Alameda Seaplane ferry\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: A weekdays-only option for commuters waiting at 12th Street and Lake Merritt stations.[aside postID=news_12073883 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/02/021826_LATEBUSES-_GH_014-KQED.jpg']Ferries leave the Seaplane Lagoon Ferry Terminal in Alameda from 6:30 a.m. to 8:25 p.m. The 96 AC Transit bus stops at both 12th Street and Lake Merritt stations before heading to the ferry terminal.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://sanfranciscobayferry.com/routes-schedules/harbor-bay/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Harbor Bay ferry\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: A weekdays-only option for commuters waiting at Fruitvale station. You can ride the 31 AC Transit Bus from Fruitvale to Harbor Bay Ferry Terminal on Alameda island, which should take between 25-30 minutes. Ferries then leave the Harbor Bay Ferry Terminal to San Francisco’s Ferry Building between 6:30 a.m. and 7:55 p.m.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://sanfranciscobayferry.com/routes-schedules/south-san-francisco/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">South San Francisco ferry\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: an option for commuters waiting at 12th Street and 19th Street stations trying to reach South San Francisco, and vice versa. Service in both directions is much more limited, with three ferries scheduled for the morning and only one in the afternoon. You can walk from the downtown Oakland stations or ride the 72, 72L or 72M bus for a quicker journey. This ferry is available only on weekdays.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"OtherEastBayBARTstationsincluding\">\u003c/a>I want to cross the bay from other East Bay BART stations\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taking AC Transit across the Bay Bridge\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">F line: An option for commuters waiting at Downtown Berkeley and Ashby stations. Runs from early mornings till past midnight, seven days a week.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">J line: Another option for commuters waiting at Downtown Berkeley and Ashby stations. Only runs on weekdays during morning and evening commute times.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">L line: An option for those at El Cerrito del Norte and El Cerrito Plaza stations (and a \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">potential\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> option for commuters waiting at Richmond, as this bus route is a 10-minute drive or 45-minute walk from that station). Note: Only runs on weekdays during morning and evening commute times.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">800 line: An option for late-night commuters at Richmond, El Cerrito del Norte, El Cerrito Plaza, Downtown Berkeley, Ashby, MacArthur, 19th Street, 12th Street and West Oakland stations. This route actually starts at Richmond station around the same time that the last BART train leaves and moves through multiple East Bay cities while BART stops running overnight. Runs until early mornings, seven days a week.\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>San Francisco Bay Ferry\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While not located super close to the Richmond BART station, the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://sanfranciscobayferry.com/routes-schedules/richmond/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Richmond Ferry Terminal\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> is where San Francisco-bound ferries are available 6:30 a.m.–8:40 p.m on weekdays only. You can reach the Richmond Ferry from BART by riding the 74 AC Transit, which should take between 10 and 15 minutes. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Golden Gate Transit from El Cerrito del Norte BART\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A suggestion from KQED’s Dan Brekke for those who are more adventurous. At El Cerrito del Norte station, there’s also a stop for the Golden Gate Transit 580 bus, which moves through Richmond before crossing the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge. After a roughly 40-minute ride, the bus will reach the San Rafael Transit Center, where you can transfer to the San Francisco-bound Golden Gate Transit 101 bus.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11971763\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11971763\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/240103-RSR-BIKE-LANE-MD-03-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A bike lane on a large bridge on which cars are also driving.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/240103-RSR-BIKE-LANE-MD-03-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/240103-RSR-BIKE-LANE-MD-03-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/240103-RSR-BIKE-LANE-MD-03-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/240103-RSR-BIKE-LANE-MD-03-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/240103-RSR-BIKE-LANE-MD-03-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/240103-RSR-BIKE-LANE-MD-03-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The upper deck of the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge on Jan. 3, 2024. \u003ccite>(Martin do Nascimento/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Once in San Francisco, the 101 makes frequent stops along the city’s Lombard, Van Ness and Mission streets as it approaches the Salesforce Transit Center, its final destination.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Taking BART south to Caltrain to get around the bay\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Confirm with BART staff that the Berryessa-bound \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bart.gov/system-map\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">orange line\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> is currently running. If so, ride the southbound train to Berryessa BART. From there, you can hop on the 500 Rapid VTA bus line that goes straight to San José Diridon station, usually a 20-minute ride. You can then take Caltrain all the way up to most cities in the peninsula and San Francisco.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">KQED’s \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/danbrekke\">\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dan Brekke\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> contributed to this report.\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So when the Transbay Tube shuts down — meaning that no trains can cross the bay from San Francisco to the East Bay, or vice versa — the impact on how folks move around the region is massive.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it’s not a super-rare issue. BART riders have already seen two \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12074729/network-fail-disrupts-transbay-bart-service-delaying-morning-commuters\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">TransBay tunnel closures\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> this year, leaving would-be passengers \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12074259/west-oakland-rv-fire-cause-of-hours-long-bart-transbay-tube-shutdown\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">waiting for hours\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> for service to resume. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When this happens, calling a taxi or using a rideshare like Uber or Lyft to cross the Bay Bridge isn’t an option available to everyone. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But there’s some good news: When Transbay BART service shuts down, the Bay Area’s public transit network offers a few alternatives to waiting for a crowded shuttle, including the region’s ferry and bus routes — even if they might not necessarily be the quickest way back across the bay, and require a longer walk from your BART station. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12034008\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1989px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12034008\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/bartnostrike20130804_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1989\" height=\"1333\" 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your alternatives based on which BART station they’re closest to, for you to bookmark and use the next time Transbay service is down. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Click or tap on the Bay Area region where you’re \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">starting \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">your journey to find recommendations nearby.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#SanFranciscothePeninsulaBARTstationsincluding\">San Francisco & the Peninsula BART stations, including:\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Embarcadero\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Powell Street\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">24th Street Mission\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Daly City\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#OaklandBARTstationsincluding\">Oakland BART stations, including:\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">MacArthur\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Rockridge\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">19th Street and 12th Street stations\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Lake Merritt\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">West Oakland\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003ca href=\"#OtherEastBayBARTstationsincluding\">Other East Bay BART stations, including:\u003cbr>\n\u003c/a>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Richmond\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">El Cerrito stations \u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Downtown Berkeley\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">San Leandro\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hayward\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Fremont\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"SanFranciscothePeninsulaBARTstationsincluding\">\u003c/a>I want to cross the Bay from San Francisco or the Peninsula\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Assuming that BART trains are still running through San Francisco, you can take any train to Montgomery Street station to access the city’s \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfmta.com/projects/salesforce-transit-center\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Salesforce Transit Center\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> nearby. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you’re planning to catch a ferry, you can get off at Embarcadero station. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12063708\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12063708\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/240111-TransitFile-06-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/240111-TransitFile-06-BL_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/240111-TransitFile-06-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/240111-TransitFile-06-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A MUNI train stops at the Embarcadero station in San Francisco on Jan. 11, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If trains are \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">not \u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">running through the city, you can hop on a 14, 14R or 49 bus that connects most BART stations in San Francisco (to make roughly the same journey within the city that you would have done using BART, to get you to one of the connecting transit agencies below).\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Taking AC Transit across the Bay Bridge \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">While San Francisco-bound AC Transit buses will have different starting points, all East Bay-bound routes will start at Salesforce Transit Center. The Transbay \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/NL\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">NL\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/O\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">O\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/F\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">F\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/J\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">J\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/L\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">L\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> and \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/W\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">W\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> lines will make stops at or near BART stations, while others — like the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.actransit.org/bus-lines-schedules/P\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">P\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — also cross the bay but will pass through areas not served by BART.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Taking the San Francisco Bay Ferry across the bay\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All East Bay-bound ferries set sail from the San Francisco Ferry Building, near the Embarcadero BART/Muni station.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12039604\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12039604\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/241213-PortFlood-59_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A San Francisco Bay Ferry pulls into the Golden Gate Ferry Terminal in San Francisco on Dec. 13, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">On all days of the week, there are ferries that can take you to the Oakland Ferry Terminal in Jack London Square, a 20-minute walk from 12th Street station and roughly a 25-minute walk from 19th Street station. Other destinations are Richmond, Vallejo and Alameda Island.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You can buy an actual ferry ticket in the Ferry Building, pay with your Clipper card or \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12065714/clipper-card-new-bart-caltrain-login-next-generation-discounts\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">tap on and off using a credit or debit card\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Taking Caltrain south to go \u003ci>around \u003c/i>the bay\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A significantly longer option that will require taking the southbound Caltrain to the end of the line at San José Diridon station. From there, you can hop on the 500 Rapid VTA bus line that goes straight to Berryessa BART, usually a 20-minute ride.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12076190\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12076190\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/3W0A6625-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/3W0A6625-2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/3W0A6625-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/3W0A6625-2-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">One of Caltrain’s electric trains, which may offer BART users a way to go around the Bay in the event of a Transbay Tube shutdown. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Caltrain)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This option also assumes \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bart.gov/system-map\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">BART’s orange line\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> — which connects San José with Richmond and offers stops at or further connections to all East Bay stations — is still running.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>A bonus option for folks starting their commute from South San Francisco\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The South San Francisco ferry connects the South San Francisco Ferry Terminal to Oakland’s Jack London Square, which is near 12th Street and 19th Street BART stations.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12063162\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12063162\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/20251103_SB304_Folo_GH-6_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/20251103_SB304_Folo_GH-6_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/20251103_SB304_Folo_GH-6_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/11/20251103_SB304_Folo_GH-6_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The city-owned parking structure at 255 Second St. on Nov. 3, 2025, in Oakland. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Ferries leave the Seaplane Lagoon Ferry Terminal in Alameda from 6:30 a.m. to 8:25 p.m. The 96 AC Transit bus stops at both 12th Street and Lake Merritt stations before heading to the ferry terminal.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://sanfranciscobayferry.com/routes-schedules/harbor-bay/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Harbor Bay ferry\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: A weekdays-only option for commuters waiting at Fruitvale station. You can ride the 31 AC Transit Bus from Fruitvale to Harbor Bay Ferry Terminal on Alameda island, which should take between 25-30 minutes. Ferries then leave the Harbor Bay Ferry Terminal to San Francisco’s Ferry Building between 6:30 a.m. and 7:55 p.m.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://sanfranciscobayferry.com/routes-schedules/south-san-francisco/\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">South San Francisco ferry\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">: an option for commuters waiting at 12th Street and 19th Street stations trying to reach South San Francisco, and vice versa. Service in both directions is much more limited, with three ferries scheduled for the morning and only one in the afternoon. You can walk from the downtown Oakland stations or ride the 72, 72L or 72M bus for a quicker journey. 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"content": "\u003cp>In a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/housing\">majority-renter city \u003c/a>like San Francisco, the prospect of electric vehicle ownership presents a conundrum: Without access to private parking spots, where are people supposed to charge their vehicles?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Aiming to address that issue, San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lurie on Tuesday introduced legislation that would create a permitting pathway to expand the city’s curbside electric vehicle charging program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ For the first time, San Francisco will have a clear process to allow curbside EV chargers to be built across neighborhoods,” Lurie said at a press conference on Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He added that his proposal would expand reliable charging access, “especially for renters and people who live in apartment buildings.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lurie and other top city officials announced the legislation next to two Duboce Triangle neighborhood curbside chargers, which have been in use since last April as part of a curbside EV charger \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12020242/san-francisco-1st-curbside-ev-charging-stations-debut-these-2-neighborhoods\">pilot program\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said the city’s goal is to install 100 curbside chargers by 2030.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12073557\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12073557 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/02/DanielLurieSFUSDStrike.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1500\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/02/DanielLurieSFUSDStrike.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/02/DanielLurieSFUSDStrike-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/02/DanielLurieSFUSDStrike-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mayor Daniel Lurie speaks at a press conference on Friday, Feb. 13, 2026, in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Sydney Johnson/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If passed, the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency would be the lead permitting agency for the program, and is set to begin accepting applications from curbside charging providers this summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SFMTA Director of Transportation Julie Kirschbaum said the chargers would be privately funded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ The permit will enable us to solicit proposals from EV charging companies,” Kirschbaum said. “Based on the pilot, we believe there is a lot of interest in this area and that this is a viable investment for companies to make.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The SFMTA would set expectations on performance and proposed locations of future chargers, Kirschbaum said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters of the mayor’s proposal said the legislation would help San Francisco achieve its goal of net-zero emissions by 2040, laid out in the city’s \u003ca href=\"https://media.api.sf.gov/documents/2025_DRAFT_Climate_Action_Plan_Strategies_and_Actions91.pdf\">Climate Action Plan\u003c/a>, and increase equity in electric vehicle ownership. The city is also \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12049202/san-francisco-approves-plan-to-add-hundreds-of-ev-chargers-at-city-facilities\">working to transition\u003c/a> its own fleet of vehicles to electric.[aside postID=news_12023483 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/ElectricVehicleChargingStatonSFGetty-1020x680.jpg']“ I was actually close to selling my EV when I discovered the curbside pilot program run by the city,” said Ashkan Javaherian, a Duboce Triangle resident. Javaherian said the neighborhood’s curbside chargers, which he regularly uses, changed his mind.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In practice, owning an EV in San Francisco is only realistic for people who own their home and have a garage,” Javaherian said. “In a city where so many residents are renters, that’s just not an equitable solution.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the curbside EV chargers in his neighborhood, a full charge on his EV costs $14, whereas a faster charger at a private parking lot or a grocery store might cost \u003ca href=\"https://driveclean.ca.gov/electric-car-charging#:~:text=Charging%20costs%20for%20electric%20cars%20in%20California,about%2018%20cents%20per%20kilowatt%20hour%20(kWh).\">about 25% more\u003c/a>, plus possible parking fees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Susan Green, a volunteer on the steering committee of the San Francisco Climate Emergency Coalition, said that private-public partnerships will be key for the city to realize its net-zero climate goals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The city doesn’t actually have to fund the installation of these chargers,” Green said, adding that the city’s broader net-zero emissions goal will cost “billions of dollars.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Green’s coalition has been advocating “for years” for the city to expand EV charging infrastructure, she said, adding that San Francisco is lagging behind others like Los Angeles and New York City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Ben Jones, a product engineer with the curbside EV charging company It’s Electric, the two Duboce Triangle chargers are actively charging electric vehicles more than 70% of the time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12075950\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12075950\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260310-EVCHARGING-05-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260310-EVCHARGING-05-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260310-EVCHARGING-05-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2026/03/260310-EVCHARGING-05-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An electric vehicle charges at a curbside EV charging station in San Francisco on March 10, 2026. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Although it’s been established that drivers can receive tickets if they park non-electric vehicles in the charging spots, how long electric vehicle owners are allowed to keep their vehicles in a charging spot once their battery is full remains a gray area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ We don’t expect somebody to come out in the middle of the night and move their car,” Kirschbaum said. “We’re going to try as much as possible to just apply some common sense rules to keep it fair for everyone.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Javaherian said he hasn’t yet encountered this kind of problem with the shared charging spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When it’s in use, he parks somewhere else. “Then, I come back and check on it, and then I get it,” Javaherian said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, he added, as more people in the city get EVs, “We’re gonna need more of these, which is why it’s so important for the city to expand EV charging.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeeeKhyuk-_odJH80iw5eAlpLBF-YWJnOi_Yqs4BEN9fY1YJA/viewform?usp=publish-editor\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>West Oakland’s 18th Street is one of the city’s most dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers, with wide lanes, hidden stop signs, and virtually nonexistent crosswalks in a residential area. It’s one of many Oakland roads that has not been fixed for decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, improvements are finally coming to 18th Street. \u003cem>The Oaklandside\u003c/em>’s Jose Fermoso joins us to talk about what changes are on the horizon, and how upgrading roads can pave the way for broader changes in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links\u003c/strong>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/2026/02/13/18th-street-west-oakland-paving-construction-safe-streets-mandela-project/\">18th St. is one of Oakland’s most dangerous. Here’s how the city is fixing it\u003c/a> (\u003cem>The Oaklandside\u003c/em>)\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC9733342565&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, San Francisco-Northern California Local.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"\" title=\"\">\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:01:36] How would you describe what it’s like to drive or walk or even bike on 18th Street?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:01:56] This is an old arterial road in West Oakland that actually led up to the old Cypress Highway, which obviously, if people remember, before the 1989 earthquake, used to lead from Oakland into San Francisco, and then it fell during the 1989 Earthquake. It’s dangerous less because of the potholes and more because of width of the street. There’s a lot of academic research that says that the wider. A local road is, the more likely it is that people will speed on it just because of psychological and visual reasons. The other thing is that there’s not a ton of traffic slowing infrastructure on it. There’s not modern street lights. You don’t really have bulb outs, which are the little, you know, little corner sections of a sidewalk at an intersection that jut out into the section in the little Sections of it that do have a stop sign. They’re like way on the side. You can’t really see it. People just don’t treat it like a normal street From 2019 to 2023, there were 16 collisions on 18th Street, including three that involved cyclists. I double-checked some of this data, and I didn’t see that any of those collisions were deaths. A few of them were serious injuries. But 18th street, still just because it didn’t lead to any people dying last year, doesn’t mean that it’s not dangerous. Sometimes this means that the community understands how dangerous it is and actually does not try to use it or cross it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:03:44] Yeah, that’s actually, I’d say something I heard as well from colleagues who live in Oakland is that even if it might be faster for them to take 18th Street to get home, they’re going the longer way, just to avoid walking on that street or driving on it. And if they have to bike on it, they’re biking on the sidewalk. They’re not biking on that actual street itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:04:08] I saw that too yesterday, yeah, I saw a couple of people use the sidewalk as a mini bicycle highway.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:17] What kind of changes exactly are they going to make to 18th Street to make it safer?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:04:24] So on 18th Street, we’re going to have new protected intersections, pedestrian safety islands. There’s also going to be a road diet, which means that the road itself is going to narrow. In the map and plans that I’ve seen, I’ve seen all-way stops, which means that they won’t just put a stop red signal on the side of the road, but they will actually put a pole at the top where you see it right as you’re driving. And so it’s right in front of your face. So one of the worst things that they’re trying to figure out all across the city is to figure out how to get people to pay more attention when they’re turning right into the street. A lot of people everywhere will get to a stop sign and even if it’s not their green go, they’ll see a red and then they’ll turn right often while you’re looking to your left. It’s the quick turn, right? Well, what my grandfather used to say, the California turn. You’re not actually stopping, which means that if somebody’s coming from your right side, a lot of are getting hit by that. And so this project has protected intersections where you have this like little V, little concrete portion that is jutting out into the street where you’re literally, it’s physically impossible to do that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:05:54] They have a lot of those on Telegraph Avenue, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:05:57] You’ve had some of them on Telegraph Avenue, yep. I think High Street also has a bunch of them now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:06:03] I mean, it just sounds to me like they’re adding things on to 18th Street that maybe most of us aren’t even thinking about as we’re driving, but they’re just things that psychologically help us to slow down, drive more safely on a street like…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:06:23] And what I would also say is that it’s like science in terms of the encouragement of it, right? So if you have a terrible street, like 18th street, yes, I had the responsibility to look out for these signals, responsibility to drive responsibly. But when the street is not giving me any signals about what to do, then it is also encouraging me to not do the right thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:06:57] Coming up, how road fixes could unlock broader improvements to the city of Oakland. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:07:20] Can you talk about why I guess this is happening? It seems like this has been a long time coming. Where is the money coming from to even do this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:07:24] I believe that this is coming from a affordable housing and sustainable communities grant, which is connected to housing complex development at Mandela station, which is right next to the West Oakland BART station. This is actually happening a lot now, where the Oak Dot transportation department is working with other projects and other departments in the city in order to kind of, you know, I would almost call it like mooch off or like add to their little pile of money of what they’re doing so that the construction and the design of it all becomes cheaper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:08:02] And it happens all in one go, right? If you’re gonna build a large building and block it all off, you might as well fix this street too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:08:11] That’s right. And what I heard about this project was that they’ve been ready. The planning and design of 18th Street has been ready to go, but they’ve been waiting for this housing part of it to really start going. And that’s going to happen this spring, finally. I think that there’s a lot of positives that are going to come out of this, including I think you probably saw this, that once you have a better 18th street, people will be able to bike from downtown Oakland all the way to Peralta and Campbell and Wood Street in West Oakland, which is now the Oakland Ballers’ stadium. So people are very excited that they’ll be able to take a straight shot from downtown Oakland and just bike to the games.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:08:57] I mean, how much safer do you think this is going to make 18th Street? Is it is it pretty significant? Are people really hopeful?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:09:04] I think anytime you add new infrastructure to a road that has been basically untouched for decades, it will definitely make a difference. How much of a difference? We don’t actually know, but sometimes it is surprising. I mentioned High Street earlier. That was always a really difficult road. I used to take it as a kid with my grandfather to go to the A’s games and that was always a nightmare and just in the last few years when they added infrastructure there, including speed bumps with the little spaces. If you take that street now, which is in East Oakland, you can see that it literally does feel safer. I never wanted to cross the street on high street and now I feel there’s a couple of really nice restaurants over there, including a Jamaican restaurant that I like. And I’ve actually thought a couple times where I’m like, oh, I want to go to that restaurant and I don’t have this abject fear of having to park across or on the other side of the street to go there. So this might lead to a couple other developments that are unexpected, you know, maybe more people. Might be willing to have small businesses or another grocery store or a restaurant on 18th Street.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:10:24] That’s really interesting to think about how improving the road paves the way, if I may use that term, for maybe helping us to think about the potential opportunities in the community. Having more people walking around, I imagine, might encourage other kinds of development, maybe, in this area that didn’t maybe feel possible before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:10:51] Absolutely. And again, this goes back to the Mandela station development. And this is why they kind of need to change this road. Because if you think about a 240 unit, affordable housing complex, then you’re going to have, you know, a thousand more people hanging out in that area. And you can’t have another thousand people at least walking up and down an absolutely dangerous road.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:11:15] In terms of the timeline, Jose, of this 18th Street project, you mentioned the spring, but I’m wondering about, I guess, the money that it takes to do this kind of stuff and also the political will. How much of a priority would you say this is for the city?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:11:35] Over the last, especially over the last five, six years, the changing of the roads has been a gigantic and important thing that the city has really focused on changing because it got to such a point that it was affecting your daily life. Politicians that pay attention and wanna serve their community and serve their residents in a way that really matters, pay attention to what people say. And so… I think they looked at it and they also were seeing some of the data. Only a couple of Did I actually start to see city council members list out specifically changes in road conditions as one of their top line first page goals of their administration? All this stuff that seems very, very basic, it became such a part of our environment in Oakland to expect nothing. I think at some point people were just like fed up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:12:41] My last question for you, Jose, I mean, we’ve been talking about just this one street in Oakland, but I wonder what this story about 18th Street says about hopes for improving streets and road safety citywide and even across the whole Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:13:00] What I mentioned earlier about the politicians knowing how important this issue is, is something that is replicated across cities, counties, and increasingly across states. People are seeing how much these changes can make to a city. When people come here and they want to see what’s happening, you might hear about and see a lot of these other positive changes. But if your streets are absolutely crap, you’re gonna be like, well, is it really, is Oakland really on the come up? Is it really doing well? But if the streets are doing well, if they’re well-developed and it feels like it’s safe to be there, to walk around in, that just becomes part of the story and it’s feels. A much better positive environment to be in, potentially bring in a new family, you know, with kids and everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:55] I guess if you see kids on 18th Street, that’s a good sign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:13:58] If you see kids anywhere, that’s a good sign. Yeah, it shows that the infrastructure is better, that there’s good schools and that parents feel comfortable enough.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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This is actually happening a lot now, where the Oak Dot transportation department is working with other projects and other departments in the city in order to kind of, you know, I would almost call it like mooch off or like add to their little pile of money of what they’re doing so that the construction and the design of it all becomes cheaper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:08:02] And it happens all in one go, right? If you’re gonna build a large building and block it all off, you might as well fix this street too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:08:11] That’s right. And what I heard about this project was that they’ve been ready. The planning and design of 18th Street has been ready to go, but they’ve been waiting for this housing part of it to really start going. And that’s going to happen this spring, finally. I think that there’s a lot of positives that are going to come out of this, including I think you probably saw this, that once you have a better 18th street, people will be able to bike from downtown Oakland all the way to Peralta and Campbell and Wood Street in West Oakland, which is now the Oakland Ballers’ stadium. So people are very excited that they’ll be able to take a straight shot from downtown Oakland and just bike to the games.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:08:57] I mean, how much safer do you think this is going to make 18th Street? Is it is it pretty significant? Are people really hopeful?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:09:04] I think anytime you add new infrastructure to a road that has been basically untouched for decades, it will definitely make a difference. How much of a difference? We don’t actually know, but sometimes it is surprising. I mentioned High Street earlier. That was always a really difficult road. I used to take it as a kid with my grandfather to go to the A’s games and that was always a nightmare and just in the last few years when they added infrastructure there, including speed bumps with the little spaces. If you take that street now, which is in East Oakland, you can see that it literally does feel safer. I never wanted to cross the street on high street and now I feel there’s a couple of really nice restaurants over there, including a Jamaican restaurant that I like. And I’ve actually thought a couple times where I’m like, oh, I want to go to that restaurant and I don’t have this abject fear of having to park across or on the other side of the street to go there. So this might lead to a couple other developments that are unexpected, you know, maybe more people. 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Only a couple of Did I actually start to see city council members list out specifically changes in road conditions as one of their top line first page goals of their administration? All this stuff that seems very, very basic, it became such a part of our environment in Oakland to expect nothing. I think at some point people were just like fed up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:12:41] My last question for you, Jose, I mean, we’ve been talking about just this one street in Oakland, but I wonder what this story about 18th Street says about hopes for improving streets and road safety citywide and even across the whole Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:13:00] What I mentioned earlier about the politicians knowing how important this issue is, is something that is replicated across cities, counties, and increasingly across states. People are seeing how much these changes can make to a city. When people come here and they want to see what’s happening, you might hear about and see a lot of these other positive changes. But if your streets are absolutely crap, you’re gonna be like, well, is it really, is Oakland really on the come up? Is it really doing well? But if the streets are doing well, if they’re well-developed and it feels like it’s safe to be there, to walk around in, that just becomes part of the story and it’s feels. A much better positive environment to be in, potentially bring in a new family, you know, with kids and everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:55] I guess if you see kids on 18th Street, that’s a good sign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jose Fermoso \u003c/strong>[00:13:58] If you see kids anywhere, that’s a good sign. Yeah, it shows that the infrastructure is better, that there’s good schools and that parents feel comfortable enough.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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