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The concern followed comments Trump made at the White House in an Oct. 15 meeting with FBI Director Kash Patel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump called San Francisco “a mess” and said he is encouraging his administration to consider the city for future federal law enforcement interventions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Seeing what’s happening in Chicago, what’s happened in LA, the blowing up of ships in Venezuela — everything is just sending us lots and lots of people to attend,” said Patty Hoyt, one of the organizers of the Marin County “No Kings” rally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alongside the slogan “No Kings,” many of the Bay Area protests will be promoting a “Yes on Prop. 50” message. The measure seeks to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12053140/california-lawmakers-pass-redistricting-plan-now-it-heads-to-voters\">redraw current congressional maps\u003c/a> to favor Democrats in hopes of winning back the House of Representatives.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where can I find my local ‘No Kings’ protests?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Protests are planned across the Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>In San Francisco \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Protest attendees will start gathering at\u003ca href=\"https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/CsNAC73Al2SyRmR7TRuDuoVPEu?domain=maps.app.goo.gl\"> Sue Bierman Park\u003c/a> at 1:30 p.m. The march will begin at 2 p.m., moving down Market Street toward\u003ca href=\"https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/JEY_C829m0uQkjk4szCPuyLm3Q?domain=maps.app.goo.gl\"> Civic Center Plaza\u003c/a>. 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Still, the march is anticipated to bring thousands onto Market Street, the city’s main artery, where a 69-year-old marcher \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12045304/tesla-driver-charged-with-running-into-69-year-old-no-kings-protester-in-sf\">was run over by a Tesla\u003c/a> during the last “No Kings” protest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ahead of the weekend protest, the city’s Department of Emergency Management said it will closely monitor 911 call volume, EMS availability and police and fire resources. The San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency has coordinated transit reroutes throughout the city, which will impact multiple lines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12042524\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12042524\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/250418-SFPDFile-45-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/250418-SFPDFile-45-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/250418-SFPDFile-45-BL_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/250418-SFPDFile-45-BL_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/250418-SFPDFile-45-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/250418-SFPDFile-45-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/250418-SFPDFile-45-BL_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mayor Daniel Lurie walks with Captain Liza Johansen, from the Mission Police Station, and Santiago Lerma, with the Department of Emergency Management, during a public safety walk in San Francisco’s Mission District on April 18, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>San Francisco Police Department Deputy Chief Derrick Lew said at a Friday press conference that all public safety departments “will be fully staffed and ready for anything that may occur.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Public officials encouraged protesters to exercise their right to protest — peacefully.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We will always, always protect the right to free speech and peaceful protests … But I also wanna be very clear,” said San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lurie. “We will not tolerate any violent or destructive behavior, whether it’s directed at an attendee or one of our local businesses or one of our members of law enforcement. If you commit an act of violence, you will be arrested.”[aside postID=news_12060033 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/250609-LuriePresser-04-BL_qed.jpg']Organizers said they are coordinating with city officials to keep the protests peaceful — even family-friendly. In Pleasanton, the “No Kings” event will feature an art-making station, a playlist of songs of dissent and opportunities for people to show off their homemade protest signs. Costumes are encouraged.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Michele Brynjulson, an organizer and member of Indivisible Tri-Valley, formed after the 2024 election, said she’s seen the “No Kings” movement grow over the past year, both nationally and locally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of us protested in the ’60s, a lot of us are retired,” she said. “But outreach to the local high schools and community colleges in the area has gotten the young people involved.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Looking at the map of Saturday’s events, even in just the East Bay, she said, “It seems like we have about double the amount of protest rallies that we had before.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hoyt said Marin County drew about 6,000 people in June and expects even more this weekend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have to thank the right wing for calling it a ‘hate America rally,’ because we’re just getting more and more people signing up to attend,” Hoyt said, referring to comments by House Speaker Mike Johnson. “Really, it’s nothing about hating America.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s Amanda Hernandez and \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/emanoukian\">\u003cem>Elize Manoukian\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> contributed to this report. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>OpenAI isn’t the first developer to announce plans to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12038154/kids-talking-ai-companion-chatbots-stanford-researchers-say-thats-bad-idea\">offer erotic content on its chatbot\u003c/a>. But the blowback against the tech company’s decision to loosen restrictions this week has been bigger, given the San Francisco-based company’s promise to ensure its AI\u003ca href=\"https://openai.com/our-structure/\"> benefits all of humanity\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most significant change will roll out in December, when OpenAI will allow more comprehensive age-gating, allowing verified adults to generate erotic content using the tool — “as part of our ‘treat adult users like adults’ principle,” OpenAI CEO Sam \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/sama/status/1978129344598827128\">Altman posted Tuesday\u003c/a> on the social media platform X.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Consumer advocates say OpenAI is following the lead of xAI’s Grok, which offers loosely moderated “adult” modes with minimal age verification, raising concerns that teenage users may have access to explicit content. Meta AI is believed to be following xAI’s lead as well, and its back and forth over whether it is intentionally pushing mature content to minors has \u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senator-hawley-launches-probe-into-meta-ai-policies-2025-08-15/\">prompted\u003c/a> U.S. Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Missouri, to investigate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We made ChatGPT pretty restrictive to make sure we were being careful with mental health issues. We realize this made it less useful/enjoyable to many users who had no mental health problems, but given the seriousness of the issue, we wanted to get this right,” Altman wrote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The announcement came less than two months after the company was sued by the parents of Adam Raine, a teenager who \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12054490/child-safety-groups-demand-mental-health-guardrails-after-california-teens-suicide-using-chatgpt\">died by suicide\u003c/a> earlier this year, for ChatGPT allegedly providing him with specific advice on how to kill himself — setting off a firestorm of news coverage and comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11989313\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11989313\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/06/GettyImages-2155035557-scaled-e1760733694503.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The OpenAI ChatGPT logo. \u003ccite>(Jaap Arriens/NurPhoto via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Altman delivered \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/sama/status/1978539332215681076\">a follow-up\u003c/a> on Wednesday. “We will still not allow things that cause harm to others, and we will treat users who are having mental health crises very different from users who are not … But we are not the elected moral police of the world. In the same way that society differentiates other appropriate boundaries (R-rated movies, for example), we want to do a similar thing here,” Altman wrote, although it remains unclear whether OpenAI will extend erotica to its AI voice, image and video generation tools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Comparing content moderation of chatbot interactions with movie ratings is not really useful,” wrote Irina Raicu, director of the Internet Ethics program at the Markkula Center for Applied Ethics at Santa Clara University. “It downplays both the nature and the extent of the problems that we’re seeing when people get more and more dependent on and influenced by chatbot ‘relationships.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mark Cuban, the entrepreneur, investor and media personality, argued much the same in a string of \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/mcuban/status/1978317936336028016\">posts on X\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t see how OpenAI can age-gate successfully enough. I’m also not sure that it can’t psychologically damage young adults. We just don’t know yet how addictive LLMs can be. Which, in my OPINION, means that parents and schools, that would otherwise want to use ChatGPT because of its current ubiquity, will decide not to use it,” Cuban wrote.[aside postID=news_12059714 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/GavinNewsomAISF1.jpg']Others see the drive for paying subscribers and increased profit behind the move. As a private company, OpenAI does not release its shareholder reports publicly. However, \u003ca href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-02/openai-completes-share-sale-at-record-500-billion-valuation?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc2MDcxODQwMSwiZXhwIjoxNzYxMzIzMjAxLCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJUM0hLMkNHUFdDSEIwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiJBM0VCRjM5ODM4RDc0RDI4QUJDREM4MDZDMDA5RTVBMiJ9.ADGZysjoeNVhUDWXwiuAxieyKueee-676dgJIAM9BvQ\">Bloomberg\u003c/a> recently reported that OpenAI has completed a deal to help employees sell shares in the company at a $500 billion valuation. According to Altman, ChatGPT is already used by \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/06/sam-altman-says-chatgpt-has-hit-800m-weekly-active-users/\">800 million weekly active users\u003c/a>. With so much investment at stake, OpenAI is under pressure to grow its subscriber base. The company has also raised billions of dollars for a historic infrastructure buildout, an investment OpenAI eventually needs to pay back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is no secret that sexual content is one of the most popular and lucrative aspects of the internet,” wrote Jennifer King, a privacy and data policy fellow at the Stanford University Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence. She noted that nearly 20 U.S. states have passed laws \u003ca href=\"https://www.axios.com/2025/01/16/adult-website-age-verification-states\">requiring age verification for online adult content\u003c/a> sites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“By openly embracing business models that allow access to adult content, mainstream providers like OpenAI will face the burden of demonstrating that they have robust methods for excluding children under 18 and potentially adults under the age of 21,” King said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>AI chatbots appear to be going the way of social media, said California Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan, D-San Ramon, whose bill that would have required child safety guardrails for companion chatbots was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12059714/newsom-vetoes-most-watched-childrens-ai-bill-signs-16-others-targeting-tech\">vetoed earlier this week\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11802216\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11802216\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan says local jurisdictions need the power to stop a wildfire disaster before it starts. The assemblymember and other state lawmakers announced a bill to expand enforcement actions against PG&E and other utilities on February, 18, 2020.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-632x474.jpg 632w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-536x402.jpg 536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan on Feb. 18, 2020. \u003ccite>(Eli Walsh/Bay City News)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“My fear is that we are on a path to creating the next, frankly, more addictive, more harmful version of social media for our children,” Bauer-Kahan told KQED. “I do not think that the addictive features in these chatbots that result in our children having relationships with a chatbot instead of their fellow humans is a positive thing, and the experts \u003ca href=\"https://cdt.org/insights/hand-in-hand-schools-embrace-of-ai-connected-to-increased-risks-to-students/\">confirm that\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>OpenAI did not comment for this story, but the company has written that it’s \u003ca href=\"https://openai.com/index/teen-safety-freedom-and-privacy/\">working\u003c/a> on an under-18 version of ChatGPT, which will redirect minors to age-appropriate content. A couple of weeks ago, OpenAI announced it’s rolling out safety features for minors, including an age prediction system and a way for \u003ca href=\"https://openai.com/index/introducing-parental-controls/\">parents\u003c/a> to control their teens’ ChatGPT accounts. This week, OpenAI announced the formation of \u003ca href=\"https://openai.com/index/expert-council-on-well-being-and-ai/\">an expert council \u003c/a>of mental health professionals to advise the company on well-being and AI.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In mid-September, the Federal Trade Commission launched an \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2025/09/ftc-launches-inquiry-ai-chatbots-acting-companions\">inquiry\u003c/a> into seven AI chatbot developers, including xAI, Meta and OpenAI, “seeking information on how these firms measure, test, and monitor potentially negative impacts of this technology on children and teens.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the most part, a couple of dozen \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2025/09/06/the-growing-debate-over-expanding-age-verification-laws/\">states\u003c/a> and their \u003ca href=\"https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachments/press-docs/AI%20Chatbot_FINAL%20%2844%29.pdf\">attorneys general\u003c/a> have taken the lead on regulation, enacting measures like age verification and requiring many online platforms to verify users’ identities before granting access. East Bay Assemblymember Buffy Wicks won the \u003ca href=\"https://a14.asmdc.org/press-releases/20250909-google-meta-among-tech-leaders-and-child-advocates-voicing-support-wicks\">support of major tech\u003c/a> companies for her measure, \u003ca href=\"https://a14.asmdc.org/press-releases/20250602-asm-wicks-bill-protect-kids-online-passes-assembly-bipartisan-support\">AB 1043\u003c/a>, which was just signed into law by Gov. Gavin Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But any parent knows it’s easy for children to sidestep those controls, or reach out to older siblings or friends who can help them, Bauer-Kahan said. She said she sees a coincidence in the fact that the veto of her toughest bill was announced on Monday, and Altman’s announcement was posted on Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Here was a bill that was really requiring very clear, safe-by-design AI for children with real liability. And I think that was further than the industry wanted California to go. I just found the timing of the veto and then this announcement about access to erotica too coincidental not to call out,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Others see the drive for paying subscribers and increased profit behind the move. As a private company, OpenAI does not release its shareholder reports publicly. However, \u003ca href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-02/openai-completes-share-sale-at-record-500-billion-valuation?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc2MDcxODQwMSwiZXhwIjoxNzYxMzIzMjAxLCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJUM0hLMkNHUFdDSEIwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiJBM0VCRjM5ODM4RDc0RDI4QUJDREM4MDZDMDA5RTVBMiJ9.ADGZysjoeNVhUDWXwiuAxieyKueee-676dgJIAM9BvQ\">Bloomberg\u003c/a> recently reported that OpenAI has completed a deal to help employees sell shares in the company at a $500 billion valuation. According to Altman, ChatGPT is already used by \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/06/sam-altman-says-chatgpt-has-hit-800m-weekly-active-users/\">800 million weekly active users\u003c/a>. With so much investment at stake, OpenAI is under pressure to grow its subscriber base. The company has also raised billions of dollars for a historic infrastructure buildout, an investment OpenAI eventually needs to pay back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is no secret that sexual content is one of the most popular and lucrative aspects of the internet,” wrote Jennifer King, a privacy and data policy fellow at the Stanford University Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence. She noted that nearly 20 U.S. states have passed laws \u003ca href=\"https://www.axios.com/2025/01/16/adult-website-age-verification-states\">requiring age verification for online adult content\u003c/a> sites.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“By openly embracing business models that allow access to adult content, mainstream providers like OpenAI will face the burden of demonstrating that they have robust methods for excluding children under 18 and potentially adults under the age of 21,” King said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>AI chatbots appear to be going the way of social media, said California Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan, D-San Ramon, whose bill that would have required child safety guardrails for companion chatbots was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12059714/newsom-vetoes-most-watched-childrens-ai-bill-signs-16-others-targeting-tech\">vetoed earlier this week\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11802216\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11802216\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut.jpg\" alt=\"Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan says local jurisdictions need the power to stop a wildfire disaster before it starts. The assemblymember and other state lawmakers announced a bill to expand enforcement actions against PG&E and other utilities on February, 18, 2020.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1440\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-632x474.jpg 632w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/02/RS41373_IMG_0396-qut-536x402.jpg 536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan on Feb. 18, 2020. \u003ccite>(Eli Walsh/Bay City News)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“My fear is that we are on a path to creating the next, frankly, more addictive, more harmful version of social media for our children,” Bauer-Kahan told KQED. “I do not think that the addictive features in these chatbots that result in our children having relationships with a chatbot instead of their fellow humans is a positive thing, and the experts \u003ca href=\"https://cdt.org/insights/hand-in-hand-schools-embrace-of-ai-connected-to-increased-risks-to-students/\">confirm that\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>OpenAI did not comment for this story, but the company has written that it’s \u003ca href=\"https://openai.com/index/teen-safety-freedom-and-privacy/\">working\u003c/a> on an under-18 version of ChatGPT, which will redirect minors to age-appropriate content. A couple of weeks ago, OpenAI announced it’s rolling out safety features for minors, including an age prediction system and a way for \u003ca href=\"https://openai.com/index/introducing-parental-controls/\">parents\u003c/a> to control their teens’ ChatGPT accounts. 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"content": "\u003cp>San Franciscans can expect to see up to 100 new, large temporary art installations around the city over the next three years, thanks to a billionaire-backed foundation’s project known as the \u003ca href=\"https://www.bigartloop.org/\">Big Art Loop\u003c/a>. These pieces are also being set up much faster — and with less public oversight — than most public art pieces in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC1317293787\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Links:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13982175/big-art-loop-sijbrandij-foundation-san-francisco-public-art\">Who Has a Say in the Flood of Public Art Coming to San Francisco?\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>An earlier version of this episode misstated the name of Sid Sijbrandij’s wife. It has since been corrected.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:00:47] \u003c/em>I’m Ericka Cruz-Gavara and welcome to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. So there’s this very large public art installation that’s become a staple of my commute to and from work. It’s this 45 foot tall metal statue of a woman, a very fit and naked woman called R-Evolution, which was installed in front of the Ferry Building in San Francisco in April. Turns out, it’s part of a billionaire-backed effort to install 100 temporary large-scale art pieces like this around the city in the next three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:36] \u003c/em>I cannot overstate how much more public art that would be than we would normally see. Essentially what we’re seeing is our public space being leased out to someone who can afford to fill that space and choose the art that goes into it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:58] \u003c/em>Today, the flood of public art that’s coming to San Francisco, whether you like it or not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:14] \u003c/em>Sarah, I feel like people may have noticed a lot of new public art popping up around San Francisco. Can you walk me through some of the examples of that that you’ve been seeing in the past year?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:26] \u003c/em>We can start at the southern end of the Great Highway, where there are now two tall metal giraffes. That’s a new piece of temporary public art.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:38] \u003c/em>Sarah Hotchkiss is senior editor of Arts and Culture for KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:44] \u003c/em>If you move up the Great Highway, there is a 10-ton spinning rock in the center of what used to be the highway. Then if you went through Golden Gate Park, there’s a ton of new stuff. The latest and the biggest is Naga, which is this sea serpent that’s installed in Rainbow Falls Pond along JFK Drive. And then if you went to the ferry building you would see this 45 foot tall mesh statue of a nude woman called Revolution that stands there in Embarcadero Plaza. And the latest is a 18-foot-long mermaid statue that is installed just next to the Ferry Building at Pier One Half that was made by Dana Albany. It’s made out of recycled metal and glass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:36] \u003c/em>What do these pieces of artwork have in common, would you say?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:39] \u003c/em>They are all enormous. Some are bigger than others, obviously 45 feet. Tall is quite large. Naga, I believe, is 100 feet long. So that’s quite large, but yeah, they’re all at least over 10 feet in one direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:56] \u003c/em>And I guess what has the reaction to these artworks been?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:03] \u003c/em>The reaction has been very mixed. Some people are very excited, especially people who may have seen this work before. Some of it has been at Burning Man. They’ve seen it on the Playa. They’re very excited to see it again. I’ve heard that Naga in Golden Gate Park is a real hit with the kids. But then there are people who are like, hey, why, how did this end up in my public space? This is not my idea of site-specific artwork. It has no relationship to the setting that it is now in. And I also heard nothing about this happening before it arrived here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:44] \u003c/em>Yeah, let’s get into that a little bit more, Sarah, because that really has been the, it seems like the driving questions of your reporting. What exactly is driving all these new installations that we’re seeing around the city?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:57] \u003c/em>Yeah, so everything I mentioned was funded either totally or in part by the Sijbrandij Foundation, which is a private philanthropic organization founded by Sid Sebrandy and his wife. Sid was the former CEO of GitLab, and I believe he is a billionaire. The Sijbrandij Foundation has spent $2 million so far to place eight pieces of public art, large-scale temporary art, in spots around San Francisco. The city is not paying for this. The Sijbrandij foundation leases the art and pays to install and eventually, I assume, de-install it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:42] \u003c/em>And this is all part of a project that they’re calling the Big Art Loop. How do they talk about the rationale behind this project?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:51] \u003c/em>The Big Art Loop is a name that came out with the installation of The Mermaid, the Dana Albany piece, and the idea is to place up to a hundred pieces of big art, that’s what they call it, so over ten feet in one direction, around the city of San Francisco over the next three years. It’s an enormous project. Literally. In all directions. They’ve done eight so far. There’s another 12 planned to be installed along the city’s waterfront before the end of 2025. So that’ll bring us to 20. And then they’re going to continue working their way around the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Daniel Lurie: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:31] \u003c/em>All right, we’re here at the big art loop. We have eight pieces up. There’s going to be 100 around the city in the coming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:38] \u003c/em>Mayor Daniel Lurie is very excited about this. He joined on with the announcement of the mermaid on the waterfront and he thinks that arts and culture is gonna bring San Francisco back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Daniel Lurie: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:51] \u003c/em>We’re going to continue to lean into our arts and culture, because that is driving our comeback here in San Francisco. Let’s go, San Francisco!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:00] \u003c/em>Why do this, Sarah, and why do these art pieces have to be so big?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:07] \u003c/em>So Sid Sijbrandij has spoken about why big art and he really wants to interrupt the urban landscape and create something that is going to draw people in specifically for selfie opportunities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sid Sijbrandij: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:22] \u003c/em>Social media has become the new passport stamp. You used to show people where you went with your passport, maybe your luggage tags. Today, you post on Instagram.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:32] \u003c/em>He talks about the being in Chicago that is such a great representation of what you can achieve with large scale art. And he’s really looking at scale as a way to monopolize space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sid Sijbrandij: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:52] \u003c/em>We think that big art can help people to know about a place and want to visit it, making a place more visually desirable and exciting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:07] \u003c/em>We’ll have more with KQED’s Sarah Hotchkiss right after this. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:50] \u003c/em>Sarah, how different is what the Sijbrandij Foundation is doing? How different is this process from how public art usually gets installed in San Francisco?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:09:02] \u003c/em>So the main difference between what the Big Art Loop is and what the city usually does is that these are temporary installations. They are not short-term though, so they’re looking to install these pieces for a year, usually at minimum. Our evolution or revolution at the Ferry Building has just been extended until March, 2026 and could be extended for longer. Sijbrandij Foundation and the Bigart Loop, they’re are looking for pre-existing works. So someone had the ability to make a 45 foot tall sculpture, whether from their own funds or from fundraising, but they had access to those resources. So that is a major difference. You’re drawing from a finite pool of people who make big art. And often in the Bay Area, the people making big art are making it for Burning Man. That is not exclusively where this art is coming from, but it is a measure factor in what’s showing up in our spaces. And the way that they are able to place these in public space is that because they’re paying for it, because it’s temporary, they go through agencies like the Port of San Francisco, which has control over the waterfront, or Recreation and Parks, which governs our parks. And they offer those agencies these pieces of art, and those agencies say, sounds great, we don’t have to pay for it. Beautiful things that will draw people, great. Which is. Very different from how we would usually see public art appear. It would go through an open call process. There would be an ad hoc review committee that was made up of various stakeholders, maybe neighborhood residents, someone from the Public Utilities Commission, arts professionals. And then there would be a period of public feedback.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:10:57] \u003c/em>It sounds like that’s a huge part of what makes what the Sobrandi Foundation is doing so different is that that lack of public input. And I know you talked with an artist who went the traditional way and it took him a long time to put his art in public. Can you tell me a little bit more about Jesse?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:11:18] \u003c/em>I talked to an artist named Jesse Schlesinger about his experience of installing permanent public artwork in the outer sunset.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesse Schlesinger: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:11:25] \u003c/em>To start with the positive, the benefits are really that there was ample opportunity for input from the public.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:11:34] \u003c/em>He had a piece that was finally installed this year, but it was an eight year long project.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesse Schlesinger: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:11:41] \u003c/em>As challenging as those eight years were and they were on occasion like sort of pushed the limits of my patience in the end and what kept me at it was the possibility that I would be able to make a work of this scale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:11:56] \u003c/em>He was originally commissioned to make a piece of public art that could serve as seating at the end due to turnaround in the outer sunset. But over the years, street planning didn’t happen the way it was supposed to. Different schedules conflicted, and so it really took him and the Arts Commission and then everyone who had gotten really invested in this project, like the local businesses and the neighbors, to push it through.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesse Schlesinger: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:22] \u003c/em>Walking the neighborhood where my work would be installed and introducing it to all of the businesses and telling them about the project. And partially as a consequence of that process, it felt like there was real buy-in from the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:38] \u003c/em>It ultimately became slightly different from his original plan, but we now have this piece of beautiful permanent public art in the outer sunset.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesse Schlesinger: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:49] \u003c/em>It really does feel immensely rewarding to see children interacting with the work out there and people walk by it. After all of those efforts, having it realized in that way is really a gift.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:07] \u003c/em>That makes me really curious then about what Jesse thinks, about what the Sibrandi Foundation is doing and what they’re able to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:16] \u003c/em>Yeah, Jesse, even though he went through this eight-year-long process to achieve his public art, thinks that some of the same rigor and vetting should be applied to the artwork that we’re starting to see with the big art loop. And I think it’s a matter of the time frame, like this is all happening so quickly, and the scale. A hundred pieces.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesse Schlesinger: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:40] \u003c/em>I think that if like real care and consideration is applied to the process that it can really benefit the city and I think stop-gap solutions like this maybe are not the optimal approach to that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:57] \u003c/em>I guess, do you think then that this should just all be done differently?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:14:02] \u003c/em>Personally, yes, from my very opinionated point of view, I believe there needs to be public oversight for a project of this scale. Essentially what we’re seeing is public space being leased out to someone who can afford to fill that space. With the Big Art Loop, we’re not really getting any information about how they’re choosing these pieces, how they are addressing issues of diversity, either in the mediums that are being shown, the content, the esthetics, the diversity of the artists being represented. They do have some stats about, you know, local versus international, men and women. But when you’re talking about a hundred pieces, it’d be nice to know what is your rationale for choosing these pieces. Can we see that up front? I do recognize that this is a gift. It’s meant very generously. But I think that there’s a little bit of what we’ve seen in other parts of San Francisco where someone comes in to supposedly fix a problem, hurries something through, we become the beta testing ground of that product, whether it’s a piece of technology or something that’s gonna shake up our infrastructure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:15:29] \u003c/em>A driverless car.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:15:30] \u003c/em>Perhaps, and then it doesn’t work, and they’re kind of problem solving on the ground, and we are experiencing the herky-jerky-ness of them figuring that out in real time. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:00:47] \u003c/em>I’m Ericka Cruz-Gavara and welcome to The Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. So there’s this very large public art installation that’s become a staple of my commute to and from work. It’s this 45 foot tall metal statue of a woman, a very fit and naked woman called R-Evolution, which was installed in front of the Ferry Building in San Francisco in April. Turns out, it’s part of a billionaire-backed effort to install 100 temporary large-scale art pieces like this around the city in the next three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:36] \u003c/em>I cannot overstate how much more public art that would be than we would normally see. Essentially what we’re seeing is our public space being leased out to someone who can afford to fill that space and choose the art that goes into it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:01:58] \u003c/em>Today, the flood of public art that’s coming to San Francisco, whether you like it or not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:14] \u003c/em>Sarah, I feel like people may have noticed a lot of new public art popping up around San Francisco. Can you walk me through some of the examples of that that you’ve been seeing in the past year?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:02:26] \u003c/em>We can start at the southern end of the Great Highway, where there are now two tall metal giraffes. 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It’s made out of recycled metal and glass.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:36] \u003c/em>What do these pieces of artwork have in common, would you say?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:39] \u003c/em>They are all enormous. Some are bigger than others, obviously 45 feet. Tall is quite large. Naga, I believe, is 100 feet long. So that’s quite large, but yeah, they’re all at least over 10 feet in one direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:03:56] \u003c/em>And I guess what has the reaction to these artworks been?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:03] \u003c/em>The reaction has been very mixed. Some people are very excited, especially people who may have seen this work before. Some of it has been at Burning Man. They’ve seen it on the Playa. They’re very excited to see it again. I’ve heard that Naga in Golden Gate Park is a real hit with the kids. But then there are people who are like, hey, why, how did this end up in my public space? This is not my idea of site-specific artwork. It has no relationship to the setting that it is now in. And I also heard nothing about this happening before it arrived here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:44] \u003c/em>Yeah, let’s get into that a little bit more, Sarah, because that really has been the, it seems like the driving questions of your reporting. What exactly is driving all these new installations that we’re seeing around the city?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:04:57] \u003c/em>Yeah, so everything I mentioned was funded either totally or in part by the Sijbrandij Foundation, which is a private philanthropic organization founded by Sid Sebrandy and his wife. Sid was the former CEO of GitLab, and I believe he is a billionaire. The Sijbrandij Foundation has spent $2 million so far to place eight pieces of public art, large-scale temporary art, in spots around San Francisco. The city is not paying for this. The Sijbrandij foundation leases the art and pays to install and eventually, I assume, de-install it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:42] \u003c/em>And this is all part of a project that they’re calling the Big Art Loop. How do they talk about the rationale behind this project?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:05:51] \u003c/em>The Big Art Loop is a name that came out with the installation of The Mermaid, the Dana Albany piece, and the idea is to place up to a hundred pieces of big art, that’s what they call it, so over ten feet in one direction, around the city of San Francisco over the next three years. It’s an enormous project. Literally. In all directions. They’ve done eight so far. There’s another 12 planned to be installed along the city’s waterfront before the end of 2025. So that’ll bring us to 20. And then they’re going to continue working their way around the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Daniel Lurie: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:31] \u003c/em>All right, we’re here at the big art loop. We have eight pieces up. There’s going to be 100 around the city in the coming.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:38] \u003c/em>Mayor Daniel Lurie is very excited about this. He joined on with the announcement of the mermaid on the waterfront and he thinks that arts and culture is gonna bring San Francisco back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Daniel Lurie: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:06:51] \u003c/em>We’re going to continue to lean into our arts and culture, because that is driving our comeback here in San Francisco. Let’s go, San Francisco!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:00] \u003c/em>Why do this, Sarah, and why do these art pieces have to be so big?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:07] \u003c/em>So Sid Sijbrandij has spoken about why big art and he really wants to interrupt the urban landscape and create something that is going to draw people in specifically for selfie opportunities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sid Sijbrandij: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:22] \u003c/em>Social media has become the new passport stamp. You used to show people where you went with your passport, maybe your luggage tags. Today, you post on Instagram.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:32] \u003c/em>He talks about the being in Chicago that is such a great representation of what you can achieve with large scale art. And he’s really looking at scale as a way to monopolize space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sid Sijbrandij: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:07:52] \u003c/em>We think that big art can help people to know about a place and want to visit it, making a place more visually desirable and exciting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:07] \u003c/em>We’ll have more with KQED’s Sarah Hotchkiss right after this. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:08:50] \u003c/em>Sarah, how different is what the Sijbrandij Foundation is doing? How different is this process from how public art usually gets installed in San Francisco?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:09:02] \u003c/em>So the main difference between what the Big Art Loop is and what the city usually does is that these are temporary installations. They are not short-term though, so they’re looking to install these pieces for a year, usually at minimum. Our evolution or revolution at the Ferry Building has just been extended until March, 2026 and could be extended for longer. Sijbrandij Foundation and the Bigart Loop, they’re are looking for pre-existing works. So someone had the ability to make a 45 foot tall sculpture, whether from their own funds or from fundraising, but they had access to those resources. So that is a major difference. You’re drawing from a finite pool of people who make big art. And often in the Bay Area, the people making big art are making it for Burning Man. That is not exclusively where this art is coming from, but it is a measure factor in what’s showing up in our spaces. And the way that they are able to place these in public space is that because they’re paying for it, because it’s temporary, they go through agencies like the Port of San Francisco, which has control over the waterfront, or Recreation and Parks, which governs our parks. And they offer those agencies these pieces of art, and those agencies say, sounds great, we don’t have to pay for it. Beautiful things that will draw people, great. Which is. Very different from how we would usually see public art appear. It would go through an open call process. There would be an ad hoc review committee that was made up of various stakeholders, maybe neighborhood residents, someone from the Public Utilities Commission, arts professionals. 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But over the years, street planning didn’t happen the way it was supposed to. Different schedules conflicted, and so it really took him and the Arts Commission and then everyone who had gotten really invested in this project, like the local businesses and the neighbors, to push it through.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesse Schlesinger: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:22] \u003c/em>Walking the neighborhood where my work would be installed and introducing it to all of the businesses and telling them about the project. And partially as a consequence of that process, it felt like there was real buy-in from the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:38] \u003c/em>It ultimately became slightly different from his original plan, but we now have this piece of beautiful permanent public art in the outer sunset.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Jesse Schlesinger: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:12:49] \u003c/em>It really does feel immensely rewarding to see children interacting with the work out there and people walk by it. After all of those efforts, having it realized in that way is really a gift.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:07] \u003c/em>That makes me really curious then about what Jesse thinks, about what the Sibrandi Foundation is doing and what they’re able to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss: \u003c/b>\u003cem>[00:13:16] \u003c/em>Yeah, Jesse, even though he went through this eight-year-long process to achieve his public art, thinks that some of the same rigor and vetting should be applied to the artwork that we’re starting to see with the big art loop. And I think it’s a matter of the time frame, like this is all happening so quickly, and the scale. 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With the Big Art Loop, we’re not really getting any information about how they’re choosing these pieces, how they are addressing issues of diversity, either in the mediums that are being shown, the content, the esthetics, the diversity of the artists being represented. They do have some stats about, you know, local versus international, men and women. But when you’re talking about a hundred pieces, it’d be nice to know what is your rationale for choosing these pieces. Can we see that up front? I do recognize that this is a gift. It’s meant very generously. 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Scott Wiener calling the guard deployments an “authoritarian crackdown.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside the downtown ICE office, the Interfaith Movement for Human Integrity has a standing presence on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays to pray, sing hymns and serve hot coffee and pastries from the streetside of a chain of metal barricades lining the sidewalk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Along with nonprofits and community organizations and a group of autonomous protesters, IMHI volunteers have been gathering outside the office and immigration court a half-mile away multiple times per week since May, when immigration officials began unprecedented detentions of immigrants who were summoned to court or ICE field offices for mandatory asylum hearings or check-in appointments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few violent altercations between federal officials and protesters marked the summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The immigration court shut down early one day in June after throngs of protesters rallied outside, and in July, one activist was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12047397/ice-officers-drive-through-protesters-trying-to-stop-arrest-at-sf-immigration-court\">sent flying from the side of a car\u003c/a> driven by ICE officers after a group attempted to block it from leaving with a man detained inside the building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12059881\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12059881\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-16-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-16-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-16-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-16-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cindy McPherson, with the Interfaith Movement For Human Integrity, hugs a friend outside the ICE Field Office in downtown San Francisco on Oct. 14, 2025, as people wait for scheduled check-ins and immigration-related appointments. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>More recently, protesters trailed ICE officials on foot from the courthouse to the field office after a person was detained following their hearing. During the standoff, one U.S. citizen was arrested after slashing the tires on an ICE vehicle, while another was pepper-sprayed unprompted alongside a journalist \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12052975/federal-officers-detain-protester-after-clash-outside-san-francisco-ice-office\">reporting on the altercation\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But most mornings, like Tuesday, are calm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the line of immigrants grew along most of Sansome Street, Jeung and the Rev. Deborah Lee, who heads IMHI, spoke with terrified families, offered prayers of safety and took down asylum seekers’ alien registration numbers and emergency contact information to be passed along to the city’s Rapid Response Network. If they don’t come out of an appointment, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12049326/as-ice-operations-expand-how-are-immigrant-allies-responding\">group of immigrant rights organizations\u003c/a> connects them to legal representation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The volunteers greeted and stood with people they recognized, like a grandfather who two weeks ago was instructed to return to his appointment that morning “with documents so we can deport you,” Lee said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12059879\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12059879\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-13-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-13-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-13-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-13-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rev. Deborah Lee (center left) and members of the Interfaith Movement for Human Integrity gather for a prayer outside the ICE Field Office in downtown San Francisco on Oct. 14, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“He could get deported to a country that he hasn’t been in since he was 3 years old,” she told KQED. The man was born in Laos but has been in California with his family for 40 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For decades, he’s been here in the Bay Area and contributing,” Lee said. “Our economy needs him, our community needs him, his family needs him — and probably we could say the same thing about every single person in this line.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He and three others were detained on Tuesday, Lee told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Across downtown, half a dozen protesters stood outside the multi-use building that houses San Francisco’s immigration court, where they gather on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few were set up behind a fold-out table covered in legal resource flyers and red, pocket-sized \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12025647/what-to-do-if-you-encounter-ice\">“Know Your Rights”\u003c/a> cards that contain translated scripts immigrants are encouraged to use if they encounter ICE.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12059883\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12059883\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-20-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-20-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-20-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-20-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ernesto Reyes holds a sign outside the San Francisco Immigration Court in downtown San Francisco on Oct. 14, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Once a week, the cohort is joined by a troupe of clowns who put on a show mocking immigration officials. Other days, artists sketch chalk drawings on the sidewalks and bands play music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group also stations a few people just outside the building’s entrance to offer interpretation and accompaniment to anyone headed to court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not all like militarized confrontation as the federal government would have you believe,” said Ernesto Reyes, 27, who’s been joining the protests weekly since June.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re just helping immigrants out by accompanying them and helping them not feel so alone,” they told KQED. As a Spanish speaker, Reyes said they can help immigrants navigate to the right room and explain what’s happening during the proceedings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12059882\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12059882\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-19-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-19-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-19-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-19-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">People line up outside the ICE Field Office in downtown San Francisco on Oct. 14, 2025, for scheduled check-ins and immigration-related appointments. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If the person being escorted is detained, they also coordinate with the Rapid Response Network. Even if no one is accompanying a person who is arrested, protesters often try to write down the person’s name or a phone number to call on their behalf as immigration officials escort them from the building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reyes credits the protest movement’s presence — and the standoffs with ICE officers on the street — with slowing the pace of enforcement actions at the courthouse. There hasn’t been a detention, they said, in nearly two months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The people here make it so much harder and make it cost so much more money for them to do it. And every time that happens, they get more and more discouraged,” Reyes told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, they said, protesters are preparing for increased ICE and federal law enforcement presence. During a press conference with FBI Director Kash Patel on Wednesday, Trump called San Francisco “a mess” and said he had encouraged his administration to look at it for future federal law enforcement interventions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12059878\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12059878\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-09-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-09-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-09-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-09-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rev. Deborah Lee (center left) and members of the Interfaith Movement for Human Integrity gather to share intentions outside the ICE Field Office in downtown San Francisco on Oct. 14, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In recent days, \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1977277765415321926\">billionaire Elon Musk\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12059728/salesforce-ceo-marc-benioff-sf-mayor-scrap-event-after-national-guard-comment\">Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff\u003c/a> joined in with calls for federal troops, raising alarms about acute safety concerns in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both Reyes and Lee said even if federal forces are deployed, they’ll keep showing up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“All those mischaracterizations that are being leveled are a way to scare people from bearing witness,” Lee said. “They want to keep people away from these areas; they want people to stop being good neighbors, stop showing love and care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m not surprised, but it’s a set of lies.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>On Wednesday, city officials and Democratic representatives \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12060033/trump-calls-out-san-francisco-as-next-target-for-national-guard-deployment\">slammed Trump’s latest threats\u003c/a> to add San Francisco to that list, with state Sen. Scott Wiener calling the guard deployments an “authoritarian crackdown.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside the downtown ICE office, the Interfaith Movement for Human Integrity has a standing presence on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays to pray, sing hymns and serve hot coffee and pastries from the streetside of a chain of metal barricades lining the sidewalk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Along with nonprofits and community organizations and a group of autonomous protesters, IMHI volunteers have been gathering outside the office and immigration court a half-mile away multiple times per week since May, when immigration officials began unprecedented detentions of immigrants who were summoned to court or ICE field offices for mandatory asylum hearings or check-in appointments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few violent altercations between federal officials and protesters marked the summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The immigration court shut down early one day in June after throngs of protesters rallied outside, and in July, one activist was \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12047397/ice-officers-drive-through-protesters-trying-to-stop-arrest-at-sf-immigration-court\">sent flying from the side of a car\u003c/a> driven by ICE officers after a group attempted to block it from leaving with a man detained inside the building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12059881\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12059881\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-16-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-16-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-16-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-16-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cindy McPherson, with the Interfaith Movement For Human Integrity, hugs a friend outside the ICE Field Office in downtown San Francisco on Oct. 14, 2025, as people wait for scheduled check-ins and immigration-related appointments. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>More recently, protesters trailed ICE officials on foot from the courthouse to the field office after a person was detained following their hearing. During the standoff, one U.S. citizen was arrested after slashing the tires on an ICE vehicle, while another was pepper-sprayed unprompted alongside a journalist \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12052975/federal-officers-detain-protester-after-clash-outside-san-francisco-ice-office\">reporting on the altercation\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But most mornings, like Tuesday, are calm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the line of immigrants grew along most of Sansome Street, Jeung and the Rev. Deborah Lee, who heads IMHI, spoke with terrified families, offered prayers of safety and took down asylum seekers’ alien registration numbers and emergency contact information to be passed along to the city’s Rapid Response Network. If they don’t come out of an appointment, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12049326/as-ice-operations-expand-how-are-immigrant-allies-responding\">group of immigrant rights organizations\u003c/a> connects them to legal representation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The volunteers greeted and stood with people they recognized, like a grandfather who two weeks ago was instructed to return to his appointment that morning “with documents so we can deport you,” Lee said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12059879\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12059879\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-13-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-13-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-13-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-13-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rev. Deborah Lee (center left) and members of the Interfaith Movement for Human Integrity gather for a prayer outside the ICE Field Office in downtown San Francisco on Oct. 14, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“He could get deported to a country that he hasn’t been in since he was 3 years old,” she told KQED. The man was born in Laos but has been in California with his family for 40 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For decades, he’s been here in the Bay Area and contributing,” Lee said. “Our economy needs him, our community needs him, his family needs him — and probably we could say the same thing about every single person in this line.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He and three others were detained on Tuesday, Lee told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Across downtown, half a dozen protesters stood outside the multi-use building that houses San Francisco’s immigration court, where they gather on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few were set up behind a fold-out table covered in legal resource flyers and red, pocket-sized \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12025647/what-to-do-if-you-encounter-ice\">“Know Your Rights”\u003c/a> cards that contain translated scripts immigrants are encouraged to use if they encounter ICE.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12059883\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12059883\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-20-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-20-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-20-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-20-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ernesto Reyes holds a sign outside the San Francisco Immigration Court in downtown San Francisco on Oct. 14, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Once a week, the cohort is joined by a troupe of clowns who put on a show mocking immigration officials. Other days, artists sketch chalk drawings on the sidewalks and bands play music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group also stations a few people just outside the building’s entrance to offer interpretation and accompaniment to anyone headed to court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not all like militarized confrontation as the federal government would have you believe,” said Ernesto Reyes, 27, who’s been joining the protests weekly since June.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re just helping immigrants out by accompanying them and helping them not feel so alone,” they told KQED. As a Spanish speaker, Reyes said they can help immigrants navigate to the right room and explain what’s happening during the proceedings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12059882\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12059882\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-19-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-19-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-19-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-19-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">People line up outside the ICE Field Office in downtown San Francisco on Oct. 14, 2025, for scheduled check-ins and immigration-related appointments. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If the person being escorted is detained, they also coordinate with the Rapid Response Network. Even if no one is accompanying a person who is arrested, protesters often try to write down the person’s name or a phone number to call on their behalf as immigration officials escort them from the building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reyes credits the protest movement’s presence — and the standoffs with ICE officers on the street — with slowing the pace of enforcement actions at the courthouse. There hasn’t been a detention, they said, in nearly two months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The people here make it so much harder and make it cost so much more money for them to do it. And every time that happens, they get more and more discouraged,” Reyes told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, they said, protesters are preparing for increased ICE and federal law enforcement presence. During a press conference with FBI Director Kash Patel on Wednesday, Trump called San Francisco “a mess” and said he had encouraged his administration to look at it for future federal law enforcement interventions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12059878\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12059878\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-09-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-09-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-09-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/251014-ANTIFAROUNDTABLEFOLO-09-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rev. Deborah Lee (center left) and members of the Interfaith Movement for Human Integrity gather to share intentions outside the ICE Field Office in downtown San Francisco on Oct. 14, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In recent days, \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1977277765415321926\">billionaire Elon Musk\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12059728/salesforce-ceo-marc-benioff-sf-mayor-scrap-event-after-national-guard-comment\">Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff\u003c/a> joined in with calls for federal troops, raising alarms about acute safety concerns in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both Reyes and Lee said even if federal forces are deployed, they’ll keep showing up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“All those mischaracterizations that are being leveled are a way to scare people from bearing witness,” Lee said. “They want to keep people away from these areas; they want people to stop being good neighbors, stop showing love and care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m not surprised, but it’s a set of lies.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Few places are as legendary in San Francisco’s punk scene as Mabuhay Gardens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Located on Broadway, at the edge of North Beach and Chinatown, it was ground zero for the city’s emerging punk movement in the late 1970s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hybrid Filipino restaurant and music venue hosted bands like the Avengers and the Dead Kennedys — even punk rock icon Patti Smith took the stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When it closed in 1987, much of the city’s punk history seemed to fade with it. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13980619/mabuhay-gardens-reopening-sf-punk-club-north-beach\">But nearly 40 years later, a group of investors and enthusiasts is working to bring the so-called “Fab Mab” back to life.\u003c/a> We dig into the history and legacy of Mabuhay Gardens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There are few places as revered in the San Francisco punk music scene as a place called Mabuhay Gardens.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12060034\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/Punk-band-with-Zippy-Pinhead-performing-at-Mabuhay-Gardens-includes-Vince-Deranged-of-Animal-Things-in-the-audience.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12060034\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/Punk-band-with-Zippy-Pinhead-performing-at-Mabuhay-Gardens-includes-Vince-Deranged-of-Animal-Things-in-the-audience.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"670\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/Punk-band-with-Zippy-Pinhead-performing-at-Mabuhay-Gardens-includes-Vince-Deranged-of-Animal-Things-in-the-audience.jpg 1000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/Punk-band-with-Zippy-Pinhead-performing-at-Mabuhay-Gardens-includes-Vince-Deranged-of-Animal-Things-in-the-audience-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Punk band with Zippy Pinhead performing at Mabuhay Gardens; includes Vince Deranged of Animal Things in the audience, 1978. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Mindaugis Bagdon, San Francisco Punk Archive, San Francisco History Center, San Francisco Public Library)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>V Vale:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> To play, you need a place, be it where you live, the street, a venue. For unrestricted play, you need an unrestricted playground. Dirk Dirksen envisioned the Fab Mab just as such a playground. Without him and the Mab, there might not have been the great punk scene in the late 1970s in San Francisco. The San Francisco punk scene was fun. I miss it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katrina Schwartz:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Located on Broadway, right on the edge of North Beach and Chinatown, Mabuhay Gardens, actually a nightclub, was ground zero for a nascent punk scene in late 1970s San Francisco. Bands like the Avengers, Dead Kennedys, The Nuns, and Patti Smith played there.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Announcer:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s gonna part for a woman. I think Patti died. I’m gonna get her for this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katrina Schwartz:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Originally a Filipino supper club, Mabuhay Gardens was part of the small but vibrant community known as Manilatown. Redevelopment, gentrification, and other factors in the late 1970s forced many of the Filipino residents of Manilatown out. They moved to other neighborhoods or out of the city entirely. But Mabuhay Gardens remained and took on a surprising new life as a punk club.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Audio from Mabuhay Gardens:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Are you ready for some breakdancing right now?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katrina Schwartz:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I’m Katrina Schwartz, and you’re listening to Bay Curious. Today on the show, we’re transporting you back to the epicenter of San Francisco’s ’70s punk scene. And we’ll learn why Mabuhay Gardens was such an important place to so many people. Stay with us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sponsor message\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Legendary punk music venue Mabuhay Gardens, known to fans as the Fab Mab, has been closed since 1987. But it reopened this month to great fanfare from local music lovers. To understand what this place meant to San Francisco’s punk scene, we’re immersing you in 1970s North Beach. Producer Brandi Howell brings us this story, which first aired on the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://play.prx.org/listen?ge=prx_98_b3e69dbd-c23d-498a-9e79-6ea56ec10ad7&uf=https%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.fugitivewaves.org%2Ffugitivewaves\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kitchen Sisters Presents podcast.[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Penelope Houston:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The Mabuhay was not your average rock club.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here was this little club all of a sudden attracting the energy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ron Greco: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Dills, Negative Trend, The Avengers…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, of course, you are going to say, “Oh, what is going on over there?”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Penelope Houston: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">More and more people started coming to town. The Ramones played there. Blondie played there. It just became the punk mecca.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ron Greco: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I was real young, I would go by and see this place. It was there for years.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The music itself was nothing really developed yet in the very beginning. It was just a supper club. People would do the Mabuhay dance and stuff like that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Dirk was helping Ness with the Amapola show. Amapola was this Filipino night club singer, and she was popular within the Filipino community and had a TV show on Channel 26 and a number of characters from The Mab had performed there. My name is Denise Demise Dunne. I was Dirk’s assistant at the very beginning of The Mab.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>V Vale:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Hi, welcome to The Counter Culture Hour. I’m your host, V Vale, and I published starting in ‘77 Search and Destroy, the punk publication chronicling the rise of the punk rock cultural revolution. My guest tonight is Dirk Dirksen, the impresario of The Mabuhay Gardens.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dirk Dirksen: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We were open for 10 years, did 3,600 plus concerts. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>V Vale:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The thing was at the time, things were so conservative that no club wanted anything to do with punk rock until Dirk Dirksen showed up and made The Mabuhay Gardens available.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dirk Dirksen: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ness downstairs at The Mabuhay was having a tough go of it, so I came in and said, Look — how about if you give us Monday nights because that is your dark night. Let me try that, and I will guarantee you $175 a night at the bar. I didn’t have $175 at the time, but I figured there are enough people I know that if I say, “Hey, c’mon down,” and if they each drink two beers, we’ll meet the guarantee. And within a very short time, we were grossing more on the Monday than he was grossing on the weekend with name Filipino acts.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mindy Bagdon:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> My name is Mindy Bagdon. My film’s name is “Louder Faster Shorter”. At one point on Mondays, which was a dead period on the Broadway strip, Dirk convinced Ness Aquino, who owned the club, to let him put on different acts. Little by little, it went from sort of vaudevillian variety acts to where The Nuns, who were one of the first groups to play there, apparently, they went up to Dirk and they found out this venue was available and they said, Well, can we put on a show? And I remember I was walking up Grant Avenue and Vale’s then girlfriend was coming down, and proceeding me was the drummer for The Nuns and he was handing out flyers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>V Vale:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> My girlfriend who looked like a rocker — I guess I looked like one too, you know with platform shoes and spiked hair and all that junk, just superficial style — my girlfriend was walking down the street and a really short guy said, Hey…feel like coming to our band’s debut at The Mabuhay Gardens, which none of us had heard of because it was Filipino. I’ll put you on the guest list! Those are the magic words for any so-called real punk rocker. So we went, and then the rest is history.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mindy Bagdon:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The first time we went to The Mabuhay, there were more people on stage than there were in the audience, because it hadn’t gotten around. But within two weeks, it was packed. I mean, word got around town. Don’t forget this is before the internet, before smartphones; it was literally person-to-person or on the telephone or snail mail to say this venue was doing this. And like I said, within two weeks, it was jammed. The joke was Bruce Conner, the famous artist, said — You’d be watching a band and you said, well, I can do this too. So you’d go home and learn at least one chord on your bass and you’d get on the stand and you were the audience one week and now you are on the stage.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kathy Peck: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Kathy Peck, bass player for The Contractions and the co-founder and executive director of H.E.A.R., Hearing Education Awareness for Rockers. I came here with Don Peck and he was playing drums with Mary Monday. She actually started the punk scene at The Mabuhay Gardens. She was like the first one. There were other people that played there, but she was the one that really…she was amazing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kathy Peck:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> She came from a dancer background, but she was really punk. She was just wild! And I would hear stuff at The Mab and see it being played. I loved the music. I got inspired by Mary, and I had a bass — a Hofner Beatle bass. I was learning to play. I was self-taught. Yeah, it was really exciting. People were like, they call it pogo-ing or whatever, slam dancing. It was like very crowded and electrifying.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Dirk at that point asked me to be his assistant, and it was like, Yeah, but I can’t type. Because I basically avoided typing because as a female you get pigeoned-holed into being someone’s assistant. And he said, Well, you don’t have to type that much, and you get to do a lot of things around there.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Seabury: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pretty often during the evening, he would be wearing what looks like the Groucho Marx nose with the glasses and eyebrows, except this one had a dildo instead of a nose. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mustache, glasses, a bit overweight. I remember the beige jacket, the beret on his hair, and the poodle in his arms. The was the first time I met Dirk.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Seabury:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> At the end of the evenings, of course, he’d come out on stage and tell everyone to get out, which no one is ever paying attention to. So he had a real police whistle which he would blow as hard as he could through the PA til people would leave. His favorite line was “We can’t make any more money off you, so get out!” I’m John Seabury. I started out playing in a band, Psychotic Pineapple, back in the ’70s, and I’m a graphic artist. I did all of the graphics for the band. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ron Greco:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I went to this nightclub called The Night Break, I guess you go downstairs on Columbus. This guy walks up to me. This big eye ball T-shirt and this big chicken hawk hair, red flaming hair, and he looks at me and says, Do you play guitar? And I say yeah. And so we talk for a little bit, and within 30 days, we each get Marshall stacks. That’s how quick it was. Zoom, zoom, zoom. Before we were Crime, we were the Space Invaders. Ron Greco, Ron “The Ripper” Greco. I had a Gibson Ripper Bass and everybody goes — Man, you rip a lot! Ripper!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I took the job and would come in and help him go through all the paperwork. Listen to some of the demo tapes of the bands that came in. Get their press announcement, like Devo. I still remember it saying, Achtung, De-Revolution has begun!\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ron Greco:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I got the band members together and said, Let’s walk in and talk to the owner. We had a good time there talking to him, and so we arranged a show to play.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Penelope Houston:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> In 1977, I moved down to San Francisco to go to the Art Institute in North Beach. And after I got there, I started to see these posters around town for this band called Crime. And they were really intriguing posters and they weren’t like anything I’d ever seen. They were at a club called The Mabuhay. I was 19 at the time, but they let people in 18 or older, but they let people in because it was also a Filipino restaurant, so they were able to let minors in. My name is Penelope Houston, I’m in a band called The Avengers. We started in 1977. That was my first band. I’d been going to these shows and ran into Danny Furious, who ended up being The Avengers drummer. He had a friend in Los Angeles, Greg Ingraham, and he brought Greg to SF to be in a band with him. Danny had rented part of a warehouse out in Dogpatch, and they had a PA set up for their rehearsals. I was staying over there one day, hanging out, and everybody was gone, and I put on some records and started singing through the PA. I just fell in love with the power of amplification. I was like, this is so awesome. I’m so loud, and then when they got back, I said, I’m going to be your singer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Liz Keim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When I found the club, I felt at home. I could be exactly who I was and still be part of it. I was freed. My name is Liz Keim and along with Karen Merchant, we created the film, In The Red. It’s a punk document of the late 1970s, mostly filmed at The Mab. For the last 40 years, I’ve also been working at the Exploratorium. I’ve been the director of the Cinema Arts program, and I’m one of the senior curators. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oh, it was fabulous. There were people that came in for the first time to explore and they were still looking hippie. Then there were folks who had taken on the persona. Leather jacket, jeans, black pants, ripped T-shirts. You’d walk down the corridor, and there were all these little crevices with people hanging out there. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Liz Keim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You’re a night creature, looking for that place to be that feels like home.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I was one of those creatures cuz you’re just kind of there and you’re watching. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Liz Keim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I went up to UC Davis to study art and that was a kind of isolating experience, when I came back into San Francisco I was looking for an intimacy in some ways. Looking for those smaller landscapes. I started filming. I prefer observing and critically assessing where I’m at, and I was drawn to the experimental film genre, so I wasn’t looking for something that followed a bell-curve narrative or, you know, was scripted outside of any experience I was living in. So for me, it was just capturing a kind of way of being in San Francisco. There were all kinds of relationships that didn’t have to feel permanent, where you didn’t have to have names, there was just something about a recognition.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> There was just this excitement. There was the energy back to that word. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Liz Keim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was about being in the mosh pit. It was about hanging on to someone I didn’t know just for counterbalance, and it was fine because my counterbalance was as into me as a counterbalance as I was into him or her as a counterbalance. You didn’t have to talk. You know, in some ways, we just talked through our bodies. Maybe The Mab was an analog experience for me. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was at KSAN at that point, and Lou Reed came in for an interview; he was playing at the Old Waldorf. And he brought this guy in with him, and the DJ didn’t want to deal with him and said, Well, show him around. So we are talking and I’m showing him around and I’m telling this guy about The Mab and what’s going on cuz Lou has his show and I said, Oh, I’ll take you there. You know, and this was Jim Carroll. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Seabury:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Once we got in the Mabuhay, Dirk was really good to us. He had the sense of humor, he kind of got us. So sometimes he would have us open for someone really inappropriate, like the Jim Carroll Band or somebody like that, just because he was being perverse about it. We opened for Jim Carroll twice. And the second time word was out that Patti Smith was in town playing the old Waldorf and she is probably going to show up and jam. So the Mabuhay was double-packed that night. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Patti Smith, Patti Smith, Patti Smith!\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Seabury:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> After the set, we were backstage and Dirk comes up and goes, Hey, you know, Patti Smith is coming. We were like, Yeah yeah, we heard. Well, she needs to borrow a guitar and we were like — No! Because we know she is going to break the guitar.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When Patti played the Mab, it was mesmerizing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Seabury:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Of course, most of the players in the scene at the time would have run home and gotten a guitar just to give to her to smash. Dirk goes off, and he comes back 10 minutes later and goes, Please guys, please….really, just one guitar for Patti. And we were like, No — forget it! So the band was on and Patti did show up, and it was really mobbed and all I could see of the band was the tops of their heads and then I just see the guitar overhead going smash, smash, smash and that was it. And it’s probably in a museum somewhere now. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was awestruck. Like, wow! I mean, these are stupid words to come up with because it was just there and here’s this persona mixing this punk with poetry. It was like, yeah, this is it. This is just taking it to a whole different level. Because there were so many levels. There was the fun part, there was the political part, and here is the poetry — here is the art. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Liz Keim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Hanging outside was like the preamble or whatever. You got your sense of whether it was going to be crowded and what the energy was like. You didn’t just rush in. It was a lingering. The kind of slow meander and then you would hope to just squeeze in and get by admissions. And maybe having enough money for a beer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mindy Bagdon:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Early on, people would throw beer bottles at the stage and that was very dangerous. So they actually thought maybe we will put a screen up between the band and the audience but that didn’t sound like a good idea. So then he got the idea, Ah ha — I’m going to make 55-gallon drums of popcorn!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>V Vale:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> All the super salty popcorn you could eat. I realize later the theory is that this makes you buy drinks. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Seabury:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Free popcorn on the tables. It was really old popcorn and it wasn’t for eating — it was for throwing at the bands.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Penelope Houston:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> There would be this big mess of popcorn and jumbled chairs and tables knocked over and it was kind of like a disaster zone.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I remember being in my house and all of a sudden just having this paradigm shift. The music was playing and all of a sudden, WHAP! Like — reality is not the same anymore. All of a sudden something woke up inside of me. I didn’t even know what it was called at that time, but it was like, Oh, something — something just changed here.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Liz Keim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Not having much money, it was like, how to get into these places without it. You could sometimes climb in through the front window at The Mab and one time someone came and grabbed me and said, Dirk wants to talk to you in his office. So he goes, You don’t think I see you sneaking in all of the time! You know, no more of that. But it didn’t stop you. It was part of the culture. We were there to just get it however we could.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Penelope Houston:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The first show we played at The Mab, we had been asked two weeks before if we would play this show — an after-party for The Nuns. Between when we heard about the gig and when we played it, we went to LA and were visiting with friends of mine from Seattle, The Screamers. Tomata du Plenty and Tommy Gear. And I remember Tommy and Tomato saying to me, Oh, you can’t do cover songs. You guys need to write your own songs. So we got back from LA and we had about a week to go and were like, all right, let’s write some original songs. So we sat down and wrote “Car Crash”, “I Believe in Me”, “Teenage Rebel” — maybe six songs, original songs, in that week. Then, when we got up to play our first time on a real stage in front of a real audience — for me anyway — and someone had written the setlist wrong and so the guitar player was playing a different song from the bass player and the drummer. And when the music started, I was like, Oh my god. Oh my god. I can’t do this. I don’t even know what song this is. It just sounds like a big mish-mash. I can’t remember the lyrics and I was so confused and we stopped playing a few seconds later and was like what? What song are we playing? And then they figured it out, and we started playing the same song and I was like, All right, OK. Here’s how it goes and I can actually do this. But for 10 long seconds there, I thought, Oh, it’s all gone out of my head. I can’t do this. This is a nightmare. So then we just piled through the set and some people who were there were like, that was really amazing. And we were like, Oh my god. That was such a car crash. Jan. 14, 1978, we’d been invited to support the [Sex] Pistols. We got there and the place was absolutely sold out. Between 5-and-6,000 people. The biggest show The Sex Pistols ever played and like 10 times bigger than the biggest show we’d ever played. So when The Nuns were up there performing the stage got covered in things people were throwing, and spit, it was just pretty rough. So we walked out after they were done to take our place on stage and the first thing that happened to me was I slipped on the stage because there was so much spit. And I almost hit the ground but I kind of caught myself and made my way carefully to my microphone. There is a video of the whole night. And you can see how when we start we were a little frightened and shaky and scared. And then as are set progressed we just got more and more confident and got stronger til at the end we were feeling pretty awesome. It was crazy because there were so many people there and they were all mashed together. People were getting squeezed out of the audience like pimples. And passed overhead like they were passing out. You’d look out at the sea of faces and see someone you knew and make eye contact with them and a second later they would disappear into the crowd. So it was intense, especially for us. We were used to seeing a lot of our friends right up front singing along with us and this was like a huge number of people who had never seen punk before and were there for the spectacle. You know, the circus. A lot of people out there, it was a pretty intense experience. I think the throwing of things increased when the Sex Pistols got out there because Johnny Rotten egged them on. Someone threw a camera on stage. He was like, Oh, thank you. Like he was really egging them on to throw stuff. It started out terrifying for us and ended up feeling very good. There were rumors that Sid’s bass was not even plugged in for that set. And I guess I would have to go back and listen to it to see if I could tell, but I think the band was pretty used to making their way through the set without counting on him. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Janet Clyde:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I’m Janet Clyde. I am one of the owners of Vesuvio Cafe in North Beach. I moved here in 1978 when I was 21. I got my first job in San Francisco at The Mabuhay Gardens. I knew how to waitress, I knew how to cocktail, and so it was basically pick up a tray. Dirk right there, he would be at the front, insulting people — What are you wearing, rat fur? He was just the funniest guy. Never took himself or anybody too seriously. And really good to the bands, like really good. You’d come in and it was this long, rectangular room with a low ceiling. Dark, cave-like — really dark — barebones, tables and chairs, bar in the back. You’d walk in and in the front a stage that was only a few feet high. And there was a back seating area that was raised a little bit. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>V Vale:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> After they removed all of the tables and chairs and seating and all that junk then a lot more people could fit in. Legally, you could maybe cram in 200 people. The most crowded night I remember was some show with both Iggy, Blondie, and David Bowie were there in the audience. And somehow everyone found out about it, and that was the most crowded I’ve ever seen The Mabuhay.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Janet Clyde: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’d go in at 10. There would be no one there at 10 at night, nobody there. But by 11–11:30 it would be packed! And I saw 999, Lene Lovich — I mean, more people than I can count — SVT! It was so much fun, so much fun! Two people stand out — waiting on Bill Graham, who terrified me — and waiting on The Clash, who also terrified me! The Clash, though, when Joe Strummer is asking you for a beer and you are just like, OK, and giving you money and you are trying to think about how to make change for this. Like, my brain has just disappeared. It was amazing! He gave me a $50 bill for the beers. I gave him back like $150 in change. I just could not count — I could not think! And the manager, I will never forget, he just took the money out of Strummer’s hand, put the money back into my hand. And then like you would with a child, counted back the change. Like, how much are the beers? They are this…OK then…here’s $12, $13, $14, $15, $20, $30, $50, boom. I will never forget that, it was the funniest thing. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kathy Peck:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Well, what happened was Dirksen started to do some gigs upstairs at the On Broadway. That was pretty successful for a while.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">This was when MTV was coming in, so there was a whole new chapter.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kathy Peck:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When the big earthquake and the freeway collapsed, that really cut people off from coming there really quickly.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Janet Clyde:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I left The Mabuhay after a few years, and time changed on Broadway and they moved the clubs off Broadway.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mindy Bagdon:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Venues like [924] Gilman Street in Berkeley developed around that time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Janet Clyde:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I don’t really know what it was like at the very end. I think it just got harder, it just got harder for them. And you know, the scene just changed. And so do we, so do we.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cb>Mindy Bagdon:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> If it wasn’t for Dirk, punk rock would have started in San Francisco at some point or other anyway, but Dirk really facilitated its rise. He understood what was happening, you know, and he knew how to let it be free.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Liz Keim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It felt intimate to me. I just remember being excited. And that’s a good place to be sometimes when you are that young. Longing and driven — wanting to be nowhere else — and then also just wanting to go crazy, in whatever way that was. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mindy Bagdon: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In America, when you get to a certain age, you’re suddenly told by the urban environment, What are you doing there pogo-ing? You are 45 years old, you should be at the PTA meeting. You have to want to find out something about your life to go to these scenes. I have a Philippine friend and it turns out that “Mabuhay” means “welcome”. And it also means “good life”. So it’s funny in that context because that’s what really happened at The Mabuhay, you know. You were welcome — and it was a good life! When Dirk died, I called Bruce (Conner) and told him because the three of us were going to make a film about the totality of the punk scene in San Francisco. That died with both Bruce and Dirk dying. It was very sad for me. I have not recovered from that to this day because Bruce was a very creative artist and Dirk had every connection necessary in the world.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kathy Peck:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I think a lot of people and musicians and artists and everyone contributed. It was a community, even though it was a misfit community. Dirksen was like an entertainer really, definitely the emcee. He was the ringmaster. I had seen that they had named a street in North Beach after the Beat people, so I thought — Well, punk rock man. It was amazing that the punk rockers got a street named. It was right on Broadway and Rowland, like, who is going to get that done with no money? I wanted it to be Dirk Dirksen Alley. Joel Selvin from the [San Francisco] Chronicle helped. It’s a historic plaque. It’s in the ground right in the alley, so they can’t really ever take it out. It talks about Dirk and Ness and The Mabuhay Gardens. It says, Shut up, you animals! He’d be thrilled.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dirk Dirksen:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You have approximately 290 seconds in which to absorb our Filipino family supper club in the…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katrina Schwartz:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> That was Kitchen Sisters producer Brandi Howell. The reopening of the Fab Mab is still in its early stages, so stay tuned for more shows at the venue. Special thanks to Denise Demise Dunne, Liz Keim, Penelope Houston, Ron Greco, John Seabury, V Vale, Janet Clyde, and Kathy Peck. The archival interview with Dirk Dirksen is from Vale’s Vale’s RE/Search Conversations 13. Production support from Mary Franklin Harvin. Bay Curious is produced at Member Supported KQED in San Francisco. Our show is made in San Francisco at member-supported KQED. Bay Curious is made by Gabriela Glueck, Christopher Beale and me, Katrina Schwartz. With extra support from Maha Sanad, Katie Sprenger, Jen Chien, Ethan Toven-Lindsey and everyone on team KQED.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When it closed in 1987, much of the city’s punk history seemed to fade with it. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13980619/mabuhay-gardens-reopening-sf-punk-club-north-beach\">But nearly 40 years later, a group of investors and enthusiasts is working to bring the so-called “Fab Mab” back to life.\u003c/a> We dig into the history and legacy of Mabuhay Gardens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">There are few places as revered in the San Francisco punk music scene as a place called Mabuhay Gardens.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12060034\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/Punk-band-with-Zippy-Pinhead-performing-at-Mabuhay-Gardens-includes-Vince-Deranged-of-Animal-Things-in-the-audience.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12060034\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/Punk-band-with-Zippy-Pinhead-performing-at-Mabuhay-Gardens-includes-Vince-Deranged-of-Animal-Things-in-the-audience.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"670\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/Punk-band-with-Zippy-Pinhead-performing-at-Mabuhay-Gardens-includes-Vince-Deranged-of-Animal-Things-in-the-audience.jpg 1000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/10/Punk-band-with-Zippy-Pinhead-performing-at-Mabuhay-Gardens-includes-Vince-Deranged-of-Animal-Things-in-the-audience-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Punk band with Zippy Pinhead performing at Mabuhay Gardens; includes Vince Deranged of Animal Things in the audience, 1978. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Mindaugis Bagdon, San Francisco Punk Archive, San Francisco History Center, San Francisco Public Library)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>V Vale:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> To play, you need a place, be it where you live, the street, a venue. For unrestricted play, you need an unrestricted playground. Dirk Dirksen envisioned the Fab Mab just as such a playground. Without him and the Mab, there might not have been the great punk scene in the late 1970s in San Francisco. The San Francisco punk scene was fun. I miss it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katrina Schwartz:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Located on Broadway, right on the edge of North Beach and Chinatown, Mabuhay Gardens, actually a nightclub, was ground zero for a nascent punk scene in late 1970s San Francisco. Bands like the Avengers, Dead Kennedys, The Nuns, and Patti Smith played there.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Announcer:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It’s gonna part for a woman. I think Patti died. I’m gonna get her for this. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katrina Schwartz:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Originally a Filipino supper club, Mabuhay Gardens was part of the small but vibrant community known as Manilatown. Redevelopment, gentrification, and other factors in the late 1970s forced many of the Filipino residents of Manilatown out. They moved to other neighborhoods or out of the city entirely. But Mabuhay Gardens remained and took on a surprising new life as a punk club.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Audio from Mabuhay Gardens:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Are you ready for some breakdancing right now?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katrina Schwartz:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I’m Katrina Schwartz, and you’re listening to Bay Curious. Today on the show, we’re transporting you back to the epicenter of San Francisco’s ’70s punk scene. And we’ll learn why Mabuhay Gardens was such an important place to so many people. Stay with us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Sponsor message\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Legendary punk music venue Mabuhay Gardens, known to fans as the Fab Mab, has been closed since 1987. But it reopened this month to great fanfare from local music lovers. To understand what this place meant to San Francisco’s punk scene, we’re immersing you in 1970s North Beach. Producer Brandi Howell brings us this story, which first aired on the \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://play.prx.org/listen?ge=prx_98_b3e69dbd-c23d-498a-9e79-6ea56ec10ad7&uf=https%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.fugitivewaves.org%2Ffugitivewaves\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kitchen Sisters Presents podcast.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Penelope Houston:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The Mabuhay was not your average rock club.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Here was this little club all of a sudden attracting the energy.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ron Greco: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Dills, Negative Trend, The Avengers…\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So, of course, you are going to say, “Oh, what is going on over there?”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Penelope Houston: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">More and more people started coming to town. The Ramones played there. Blondie played there. It just became the punk mecca.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ron Greco: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When I was real young, I would go by and see this place. It was there for years.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The music itself was nothing really developed yet in the very beginning. It was just a supper club. People would do the Mabuhay dance and stuff like that. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Dirk was helping Ness with the Amapola show. Amapola was this Filipino night club singer, and she was popular within the Filipino community and had a TV show on Channel 26 and a number of characters from The Mab had performed there. My name is Denise Demise Dunne. I was Dirk’s assistant at the very beginning of The Mab.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>V Vale:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Hi, welcome to The Counter Culture Hour. I’m your host, V Vale, and I published starting in ‘77 Search and Destroy, the punk publication chronicling the rise of the punk rock cultural revolution. My guest tonight is Dirk Dirksen, the impresario of The Mabuhay Gardens.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dirk Dirksen: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We were open for 10 years, did 3,600 plus concerts. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>V Vale:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The thing was at the time, things were so conservative that no club wanted anything to do with punk rock until Dirk Dirksen showed up and made The Mabuhay Gardens available.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Dirk Dirksen: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ness downstairs at The Mabuhay was having a tough go of it, so I came in and said, Look — how about if you give us Monday nights because that is your dark night. Let me try that, and I will guarantee you $175 a night at the bar. I didn’t have $175 at the time, but I figured there are enough people I know that if I say, “Hey, c’mon down,” and if they each drink two beers, we’ll meet the guarantee. And within a very short time, we were grossing more on the Monday than he was grossing on the weekend with name Filipino acts.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mindy Bagdon:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> My name is Mindy Bagdon. My film’s name is “Louder Faster Shorter”. At one point on Mondays, which was a dead period on the Broadway strip, Dirk convinced Ness Aquino, who owned the club, to let him put on different acts. Little by little, it went from sort of vaudevillian variety acts to where The Nuns, who were one of the first groups to play there, apparently, they went up to Dirk and they found out this venue was available and they said, Well, can we put on a show? And I remember I was walking up Grant Avenue and Vale’s then girlfriend was coming down, and proceeding me was the drummer for The Nuns and he was handing out flyers. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>V Vale:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> My girlfriend who looked like a rocker — I guess I looked like one too, you know with platform shoes and spiked hair and all that junk, just superficial style — my girlfriend was walking down the street and a really short guy said, Hey…feel like coming to our band’s debut at The Mabuhay Gardens, which none of us had heard of because it was Filipino. I’ll put you on the guest list! Those are the magic words for any so-called real punk rocker. So we went, and then the rest is history.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mindy Bagdon:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The first time we went to The Mabuhay, there were more people on stage than there were in the audience, because it hadn’t gotten around. But within two weeks, it was packed. I mean, word got around town. Don’t forget this is before the internet, before smartphones; it was literally person-to-person or on the telephone or snail mail to say this venue was doing this. And like I said, within two weeks, it was jammed. The joke was Bruce Conner, the famous artist, said — You’d be watching a band and you said, well, I can do this too. So you’d go home and learn at least one chord on your bass and you’d get on the stand and you were the audience one week and now you are on the stage.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kathy Peck: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I’m Kathy Peck, bass player for The Contractions and the co-founder and executive director of H.E.A.R., Hearing Education Awareness for Rockers. I came here with Don Peck and he was playing drums with Mary Monday. She actually started the punk scene at The Mabuhay Gardens. She was like the first one. There were other people that played there, but she was the one that really…she was amazing.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Kathy Peck:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> She came from a dancer background, but she was really punk. She was just wild! And I would hear stuff at The Mab and see it being played. I loved the music. I got inspired by Mary, and I had a bass — a Hofner Beatle bass. I was learning to play. I was self-taught. Yeah, it was really exciting. People were like, they call it pogo-ing or whatever, slam dancing. It was like very crowded and electrifying.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Dirk at that point asked me to be his assistant, and it was like, Yeah, but I can’t type. Because I basically avoided typing because as a female you get pigeoned-holed into being someone’s assistant. And he said, Well, you don’t have to type that much, and you get to do a lot of things around there.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Seabury: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pretty often during the evening, he would be wearing what looks like the Groucho Marx nose with the glasses and eyebrows, except this one had a dildo instead of a nose. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Mustache, glasses, a bit overweight. I remember the beige jacket, the beret on his hair, and the poodle in his arms. The was the first time I met Dirk.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Seabury:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> At the end of the evenings, of course, he’d come out on stage and tell everyone to get out, which no one is ever paying attention to. So he had a real police whistle which he would blow as hard as he could through the PA til people would leave. His favorite line was “We can’t make any more money off you, so get out!” I’m John Seabury. I started out playing in a band, Psychotic Pineapple, back in the ’70s, and I’m a graphic artist. I did all of the graphics for the band. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ron Greco:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I went to this nightclub called The Night Break, I guess you go downstairs on Columbus. This guy walks up to me. This big eye ball T-shirt and this big chicken hawk hair, red flaming hair, and he looks at me and says, Do you play guitar? And I say yeah. And so we talk for a little bit, and within 30 days, we each get Marshall stacks. That’s how quick it was. Zoom, zoom, zoom. Before we were Crime, we were the Space Invaders. Ron Greco, Ron “The Ripper” Greco. I had a Gibson Ripper Bass and everybody goes — Man, you rip a lot! Ripper!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I took the job and would come in and help him go through all the paperwork. Listen to some of the demo tapes of the bands that came in. Get their press announcement, like Devo. I still remember it saying, Achtung, De-Revolution has begun!\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Ron Greco:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I got the band members together and said, Let’s walk in and talk to the owner. We had a good time there talking to him, and so we arranged a show to play.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Penelope Houston:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> In 1977, I moved down to San Francisco to go to the Art Institute in North Beach. And after I got there, I started to see these posters around town for this band called Crime. And they were really intriguing posters and they weren’t like anything I’d ever seen. They were at a club called The Mabuhay. I was 19 at the time, but they let people in 18 or older, but they let people in because it was also a Filipino restaurant, so they were able to let minors in. My name is Penelope Houston, I’m in a band called The Avengers. We started in 1977. That was my first band. I’d been going to these shows and ran into Danny Furious, who ended up being The Avengers drummer. He had a friend in Los Angeles, Greg Ingraham, and he brought Greg to SF to be in a band with him. Danny had rented part of a warehouse out in Dogpatch, and they had a PA set up for their rehearsals. I was staying over there one day, hanging out, and everybody was gone, and I put on some records and started singing through the PA. I just fell in love with the power of amplification. I was like, this is so awesome. I’m so loud, and then when they got back, I said, I’m going to be your singer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Liz Keim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> When I found the club, I felt at home. I could be exactly who I was and still be part of it. I was freed. My name is Liz Keim and along with Karen Merchant, we created the film, In The Red. It’s a punk document of the late 1970s, mostly filmed at The Mab. For the last 40 years, I’ve also been working at the Exploratorium. I’ve been the director of the Cinema Arts program, and I’m one of the senior curators. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oh, it was fabulous. There were people that came in for the first time to explore and they were still looking hippie. Then there were folks who had taken on the persona. Leather jacket, jeans, black pants, ripped T-shirts. 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I prefer observing and critically assessing where I’m at, and I was drawn to the experimental film genre, so I wasn’t looking for something that followed a bell-curve narrative or, you know, was scripted outside of any experience I was living in. So for me, it was just capturing a kind of way of being in San Francisco. There were all kinds of relationships that didn’t have to feel permanent, where you didn’t have to have names, there was just something about a recognition.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> There was just this excitement. There was the energy back to that word. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Liz Keim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It was about being in the mosh pit. It was about hanging on to someone I didn’t know just for counterbalance, and it was fine because my counterbalance was as into me as a counterbalance as I was into him or her as a counterbalance. You didn’t have to talk. You know, in some ways, we just talked through our bodies. Maybe The Mab was an analog experience for me. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I was at KSAN at that point, and Lou Reed came in for an interview; he was playing at the Old Waldorf. And he brought this guy in with him, and the DJ didn’t want to deal with him and said, Well, show him around. So we are talking and I’m showing him around and I’m telling this guy about The Mab and what’s going on cuz Lou has his show and I said, Oh, I’ll take you there. You know, and this was Jim Carroll. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Seabury:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Once we got in the Mabuhay, Dirk was really good to us. He had the sense of humor, he kind of got us. So sometimes he would have us open for someone really inappropriate, like the Jim Carroll Band or somebody like that, just because he was being perverse about it. We opened for Jim Carroll twice. And the second time word was out that Patti Smith was in town playing the old Waldorf and she is probably going to show up and jam. So the Mabuhay was double-packed that night. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Denise Demise Dunne: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Patti Smith, Patti Smith, Patti Smith!\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>John Seabury:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> After the set, we were backstage and Dirk comes up and goes, Hey, you know, Patti Smith is coming. We were like, Yeah yeah, we heard. Well, she needs to borrow a guitar and we were like — No! 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I think it just got harder, it just got harder for them. And you know, the scene just changed. And so do we, so do we.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cbr>\n\u003c/span>\u003cb>Mindy Bagdon:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> If it wasn’t for Dirk, punk rock would have started in San Francisco at some point or other anyway, but Dirk really facilitated its rise. He understood what was happening, you know, and he knew how to let it be free.\u003c/span>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Liz Keim: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It felt intimate to me. I just remember being excited. And that’s a good place to be sometimes when you are that young. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>More than 4,100 workers have received RIF notices, \u003ca href=\"https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.457131/gov.uscourts.cand.457131.40.0.pdf\">according to a legal declaration\u003c/a> by Stephen Billy, a senior advisor at the Office of Management and Budget.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Affected departments include the Department of Commerce, Department of Education, Department of Energy, Environmental Protection Agency, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Department of Homeland Security and Department of the Treasury.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hundreds more notices were also sent out by mistake last week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Department of Health and Human Services sent out more than 1,700 RIF notices on Oct. 10, but actually meant to send out less than 1,000, according to Thomas Nagy, a human resources official within the Department of Health and Human Services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Employees have been working since Oct. 10, 2025, to rescind the notices that had been issued in error,” Nagy said in a \u003ca href=\"https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.457131/gov.uscourts.cand.457131.49.1.pdf\">declaration\u003c/a> to the court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Department of Justice lawyers argued that the judge did not have jurisdiction in this case and that workers were not entitled to relief through the courts because the layoffs had a 60-day notice period — so the government’s actions would not technically harm workers until after that period had lapsed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12057746\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12057746 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/GettyImages-2236329361-scaled-e1760568167148.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A poster of the “Trump Gold Card” is seen as President Donald Trump signs an executive order in the Oval Office at the White House on Sept. 19, 2025, in Washington, DC. \u003ccite>(Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Danielle Leonard, an attorney for the unions, pushed back on the assertion that employees aren’t suffering any harm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re making people come in, work without pay, to fire their fellow employees, and then those employees are being fired in this context. It is traumatic, it is distressing,” said Leonard, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2025/10/14/nx-s1-5574469/cdc-shutdown-federal-layoffs\">alluding to reports\u003c/a> that human resources workers at the Centers for Disease Control were called back into work to process layoffs, including members of their own team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The defense declined to address the lawsuit’s core claim that the layoffs are illegal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I just want to be clear, you’re not making any statement concerning the government’s position on the merits of this, on whether these RIFs are legal or not?” Illston asked during the hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Not today, your honor,” Assistant United States Attorney Elizabeth Hedges said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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So you are standing on this great design that the folks at the MTA came up with, and I love it,” Supervisor Myrna Melgar, whose district includes the neighborhood, said as trains chirped in and out of the Twin Peaks Tunnel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>West Portal station is a key connection point in San Francisco’s transportation system. Three rail lines and two bus routes serving \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfmta.com/press-releases/press-release-san-francisco-city-leaders-join-west-portal-community-announce-completion-street-and-traffic-safety-and-beautification-improvements\">55,000\u003c/a> daily passengers pass through the station, where the tunnel links the light rail lines to the Market Street Subway, according to the SFMTA.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Melgar, who recently authored \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12055304/after-vision-zero-san-francisco-looks-to-a-new-approach-to-traffic-safety\">the city’s new Street Safety Act\u003c/a>, and former Mayor London Breed asked SFMTA to \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfmta.com/projects/west-portal-station-safety-and-community-space-improvements\">reconfigure\u003c/a> the intersection last year after the tragic crash on March 16, 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12021180\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12021180\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/20231128-Muni-013-JY_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/20231128-Muni-013-JY_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/20231128-Muni-013-JY_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/20231128-Muni-013-JY_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/20231128-Muni-013-JY_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/20231128-Muni-013-JY_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/20231128-Muni-013-JY_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Passengers wait to board the L Bus outside of West Portal Station in San Francisco on Nov. 28, 2023. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>That was the day driver Mary Fong Lau, then 78, struck and killed a family waiting for a bus to the San Francisco Zoo. The victims were identified as Diego Cardoso de Oliveira, Matilde Moncada Ramos Pinto and their two young sons, 1-year-old Joaquin Ramos Pinto de Oliveira and 3-month-old Cauê Ramos Pinto do Oliveira, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/west-portal-driver-charges-19552262.php\">\u003cem>San Francisco Chronicle\u003c/em>\u003c/a> reported.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prosecutors said Lau, who was charged with felony vehicular manslaughter, was driving her Mercedes SUV between 65 and 72 mph at the time of the collision. Lau pleaded not guilty in July, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://sfstandard.com/2024/07/05/mary-fong-lau-west-portal-crash-pleads-not-guilty/\">\u003cem>San Francisco Standard\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The crash drew public outcry over the stop’s lack of street safety improvements and renewed criticism over the city’s failure to curb pedestrian traffic fatalities under the Vision Zero initiative, which expired at the end of last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response, transit officials proposed safety upgrades to the intersection, which have rolled out \u003ca href=\"https://abc7news.com/post/changes-come-san-francisco-west-portal-intersection-year-family-4-killed-crash/16048064/\">slowly\u003c/a> throughout the year.[aside postID=news_11992918 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/07/20231128-Muni-010-JY_qed-1020x680.jpg']Some \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11992918/san-francisco-driver-78-arrested-months-after-crash-that-killed-family-of-4\">local businesses and residents opposed the plan\u003c/a>, saying safety improvements would restrict car traffic. Melgar, SFMTA staff and members of the West Portal Merchants Association all addressed the controversy over the changes at the event, which speakers said was — somewhat — resolved through compromise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When you go to mediation, you come out a little unhappy, a little happy,” said Kerry Riordan Sykes, a West Portal business owner and neighbor who served on a \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfmta.com/press-releases/press-release-san-francisco-city-leaders-join-west-portal-community-announce-completion-street-and-traffic-safety-and-beautification-improvements\">committee\u003c/a> approving the changes. “And that’s kind of how we came out with this. But overall … if the goal was … holistically, to make West Portal safer and the traffic calmer out here, has that goal been reached? Yes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The project drew to a close just days after the city’s 13th pedestrian fatality this year. On Oct. 4, 30-year-old Binod Budhathoki, a Nepalese immigrant, was crossing Cortland Avenue at Anderson Street when he was struck by a hit-and-run driver, according to San Francisco police and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner. 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To prepare for the temporary influx of people downtown, California Highway Patrol has sent in 200 extra officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city is shy about 500 officers from recommended staffing levels, according to the Police Department, and Benioff blasted the city for failing to maintain the same levels of policing outside of the conference week. However, it’s common during any major event for the city to ramp up policing and for private event holders to pay for extra security costs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Speaking at the police academy, Lurie did not mention Trump’s name on Wednesday, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12023569/lurie-tiptoes-around-trump-as-sf-leaders-challenge-executive-orders\">staying consistent with his communication strategy\u003c/a> since assuming office in January to avoid calling out the president. He instead emphasized the city’s declining crime rates and growing police force as evidence that the National Guard is not needed in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have seen crime go down in Union Square 40%. Crime citywide is down 30%. We are at 70-year lows when it comes to homicides. Car break-ins are at 22-year lows,” Lurie said. “I am clear-eyed about the challenges that we have. We have a lot of work to do. 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The \u003ca href=\"https://media.api.sf.gov/documents/PoliceCommission10825_-_RAA_Summary_Results_for_Community_Input.pdf\">report\u003c/a>, presented to the Police Commission at their Oct. 8 meeting, found that respondents were looking for a police chief “who embodies integrity, openness, and courage, while also being firmly grounded in the unique needs of San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Benedicto said the community meetings, along with conversations with police officers and other department employees, have already shaped some of the commission’s decision-making and will continue to help them winnow down the candidates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to community input, one of the chief’s key priorities should be “preparedness around federal immigration enforcement activity.” Protesters have faced off against Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers outside San Francisco’s immigration court. 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