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The ground is mostly covered in mulch and astroturf instead of asphalt, which can radiate dangerously high temperatures, cutting outdoor playtime short.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To extend that time, playground builders studied the sun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12054024\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12054024\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-05-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-05-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-05-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-05-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A child from the infant program plays in the outdoor area at the North Bay Children’s Center in Novato on Aug. 27, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Babies, toddlers and kids under 5 are more vulnerable to heat exhaustion because their bodies heat up faster, and they have a harder time cooling down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We live in an area where those extreme heat days are hotter and they last longer, so we have to make sure that our environments can support what children need,” Gilmore said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Crews carefully positioned fabric panels above the sandbox to provide shade as sunlight shifts, said Brian St. Peter, head of facilities for the NBCC.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12054028\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12054028\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-12-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-12-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-12-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-12-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Teresa Fogolini, director of Garden of Eatin’, checks on lettuce growing in the garden at the North Bay Children’s Center in Novato on Aug. 27, 2025. The program teaches children about healthy food through hands-on gardening. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We really had to look at exactly where it’s coming during the summer months, just to be able to accommodate the most shade for kids where they’re actually going to be playing,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The $12.5 million campus is on former military land that the NBCC purchased from the federal government for $1 years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gilmore already had blueprints for the building in 2015, but when the 2017 North Bay wildfires devastated the region and upended the lives of many families — including teachers and other members of the staff — Gilmore said it became crucial to add design features that address climate change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12054031\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12054031\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-19-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-19-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-19-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250827-CLIMATERESILIENTCHILDCARECENTER-19-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Students learn how to cut vegetables for a salad at the North Bay Children’s Center in Novato on Aug. 27, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>To prepare for future emergencies, the new building will serve as a “resiliency hub” where families can go and be safe instead of an evacuation shelter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>“\u003c/strong>If they’re in a place where they can’t get to their home, it’s important that we do have enough food, we do have enough water, and that we do have space outside of the classrooms where families can gather,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\u003cp>On this edition of The Bay’s monthly news roundup, Ericka is joined by The Bay’s senior editor Alan Montecillo and KQED associate arts and culture editor Nastia Voynovskaya. We talk about the Pickett Fire currently burning in Napa, scheduling and payment changes to public transit across the Bay, and why some local artists have decided to take their music off Spotify.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC1460162369&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ci>Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. San Francisco Northern California Local.\u003c/i>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Links:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents/2025/8/21/pickett-fire\">Pickett Fire\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/napa/pickett-fire-napa-cause-woodbridge/\">Did ‘escaped control burn’ cause Napa County’s Pickett Fire? Dispatch records raise questions about blaze’s origin\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12052690/bart-fares-2025-credit-card-clipper-tap-and-ride-contactless\">Starting This Week, You Can Tap Onto BART With a Credit Card — Here’s How\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13978141/deerhoof-quits-spotify-daniel-ek-700-million-military-ai-investment\">SF Band Ditches Spotify Over CEO’s $700M Military AI Investment\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bart.gov/news/articles/2025/news20250811\">Bay Area transit’s latest Big Sync improves transfers, saving riders up to 20 minutes per trip\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:02] I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. And welcome to our August news roundup where we talk about some of the other stories that The Bay team and today a special guest have been following this month. I’m joined by senior editor, Alan Montecillo. What’s up, Alan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:00:21] Hello.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:22] And our very special guest today is Nastia Vojnovskaya, associate editor of arts and culture for KQED. Hey Nastia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:29] Hi Ericka!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:30] Thank you so much for joining us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:32] Thanks for having me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:35] Before we dig into the stories that we’ve been following, Nastia, we wanted to have you on because it’s been a pretty busy August for you and the Arts Desk. Can you tell us a little bit about all the things you’ve been covering this month?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:49] It’s music festival season and full swing in the Bay Area. So earlier this month, I had the pleasure of covering Outside Lands. Um, I cover it every year. And this was a particularly good one where had I not been covering, I would have definitely wanted to be there for fun. Super standout performance by Doechii, who was not even a headliner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:01:13] Wow. I was just going to ask what were your favorite sets?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:01:25] She already had been at the top of my list of artists I’m watching, just based on her super strong album from last year, Alligator Bites Never Heal. And she just really showed everyone what showmanship and what being a performer is all about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:01:52] She can rap with the dexterity of Kendrick Lamar while moving like Megan Thee Stallion with no backing track. And then the whole performance was also formatted with this cheeky classroom lesson theme about hip hop. There were also so many homages to who came before and where she came from while creating this super futuristic vision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:02:16] August was kind of the month of music festivals or concerts in Golden Gate Park, right? There was Denton Company, Outside Lands, Zach Bryan. With Outside Lands how did it compare to previous years? And I mean, how do you know as an attendee and as someone covering it, whether it was like a big success compared to years past?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:02:35] I would say this year they did some very, very savvy booking. So in addition to Doechii, they had Doja Cat and also Tyler, The Creator. Tyler, he had played Outside Lands before, so when they announced it back in April, I was like, okay, I’m excited to see him again. I like him. But shortly before the festival, he released a fantastic new album. And it’s called Don’t Tap the Glass and the whole theme of that album is being present for the music in person and not being on your phone. And you kind of saw that translate in the crowd the way that people were so engaged. There were some really smart choices of well-positioned breakout acts that they booked. There’s this Brooklyn indie band whose name unfortunately we cannot say on the Radio, and it’s spelled F-C-U-K-E-R-S. And they played this smaller side stage earlier in the day. And I was so impressed by just how they packed out that stage with teens and 20-somethings who were just in this very dense crowd jumping up and down. They kind of have this indie sleaze vibe with electronics and live instruments and just like very sassy vocals. It’s very children of brat. And that band actually had a super packed high energy show, The Rickshaw Stop the night before. So I was just very impressed by how the festival had this mix of established and breaking acts that I think are about to be a lot bigger soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:05] I know LaRussell also performed at Outside Lands, and we also did a really amazing event with him this month as well. More on that on the show next month, actually. We did a real cool music showcase with LaRussall and the Good Company team. Really got to see some amazing artists locally, and we’re gonna do an interview with the winner next month. So look out for that, listeners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:34] I have a confession to make. I live next to the park. I have lived next to park for several years and I haven’t been to outside lands yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:04:41] But at least you can hear it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:43] I can hear it, I can definitely hear it. Some of my neighbors don’t love the fact that they can hear it, but I don’t mind. I should go and I will go. It’s expensive, but from what I hear, it’s worth it. I will get around to it, but I’m always a little embarrassed whenever this comes up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:59] Very clutch parking spot in front of his house, if you’re an outside lens attendee. Not that I’m offering it to our listeners. Well we’re gonna take a quick break and when we come back we’re going to dig into all the stories that we have been following this month. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:05:27] Let’s go ahead and dive into some of the other stories that we have been following this month. Alan, I wanna start with you and you’ve been following the Pickett Fire in Napa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:05:38] Yes, after a cold summer, a robust marine layer, Karl the Fog, out in full force, we are essentially in peak fire season from now until winter, basically, when it starts raining. And over the last week, we’ve had what has been the largest fire in the Bay Area so far, which is the Pickett fire. As of this taping, so Thursday morning, it has burned about 6,800 acres and is about 33% contained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:06:07] Yeah, and obviously whenever it comes to fire in the Bay Area, I think one of the main ways folks experience it is air quality, and I’ve been really watching that very closely. But can you tell us a little bit about where the fire is burning exactly? I know it’s pretty close to some big wineries in Napa, right, who are just about to approach harvest season.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:06:33] Yeah. So the fire broke out on the 21st of August along Pickett road in Napa County, just outside the town of Calistoga near several vineyards. So this fire is firmly, you know, in wine country, you know, In terms of smoke, the air quality management district did lift that advisory on Tuesday. So hopefully it’s not too bad anymore, but there’s still many areas where there are evacuation orders or evacuation warnings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:07:00] So has it burned down any residential areas?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:03] So far, it doesn’t seem like that’s happened. Not all the damage has been assessed yet. It seems like the main damage that’s been done, apart from smoke that can be hazardous to people’s health, is to crops. As Ericka mentioned, it is harvest season for these wineries. One early estimate from the county ag commissioner says approximately 1,500 acres of crops have been affected either by fire, by heat, or by smoke. Totaling and estimated, and again this is preliminary, about $65 million in damage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:07:38] Oh, wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:38] And what that means in a practical sense is, are wine grapes going to get ruined by the fire? This happened in 2020. And so the question just is, could that happen again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:07:50] Do you know how the wine industry has been adapting to that, if at all?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:54] Winemakers say, you know, over the last decade or so, the industry is trying to push for more research to figure out how to reduce the taste of smoke and minimize the effects of wildfire because you know it’s hard to tell immediately if the smoke has ruined your grapes. You won’t really know until you taste it. And there actually isn’t a ton of research yet on how to at least mitigate that. So maybe you do have smoke in your area because fire is a reality in California, but maybe there’s ways to minimize the taste and save the crops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:08:23] And I know it usually takes a while to figure out how a fire actually started, but do we know anything about how this fire in Napa began?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:08:33] So that is still under investigation. We don’t know for sure. But there have been some questions and details trickling out, and reporters asking whether this fire started as the result of a “escaped control burn”, basically a fire that’s intended to reduce vegetation on a property. The Press Democrat noted that those words, escape control, burn, appeared on a Cal Fire public safety dispatch around the same time the fire was reported. For what it’s worth, the winery in question said through a spokesperson, you know, we’re working with fire investigators. This is premature. So nothing has been confirmed officially yet, but there are some worries that this could have been how the fire started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:19] Well, Alan, thank you so much for sharing that story with us. We’re going to be following that one in the weeks ahead, I’m sure. Moving on to the story that I have been following this month, Nastia, Alan, you’re both public transit writers in the Bay Area, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:09:39] Yes, I took BART here this morning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:09:42] I’m a regular N rider.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:44] Nice and of course I’m a regular ferry rider and this might be of interest to all of us in this room. Some big changes have been happening to public transit in the Bay Area that is really all about making transit easier to ride. Not sure if you all have started using your debit or credit cards to ride BART but that is now a thing that you can do. And there’s also something called the Big Sync that is happening. Basically, all these transit systems in the Bay Area coordinating to make transfers a lot easier if you’re using one or more transit system. It’s about time. Right. I remember going to New York a couple of years ago and being able to ride the subway by just tapping my credit card. And as a tourist. I was amazed. I was mind blown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:10:43] Yeah, when they got rid of paper tickets and introduced clipper cards, I honestly always found it really problematic that if you lose your clipper card, you have to spend three dollars or something to get a new plastic card. And if you’re a low-income rider, you know that’s money you could be using for a meal. So I’m glad that they’re changing the way it’s done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:11:02] Well, and it also brings BART closer to transit systems that already have this. You mentioned this already. New York has it. Chicago has it, many places overseas have it already. Sadly, for those of us who travel among multiple transit agencies, so let’s say you’re going BART to Muni like you do, it hasn’t come to Muni yet, right? You’ll still tap your credit card for BART and then use something else for Muni.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:11:25] Yeah, fumble to find your other plastic card to ride Muni. Yes, that is correct. This open payment system, as it’s called, of using a debit card or a credit card has not rolled out for Muni yet, but that kind of is the goal. Bay Area Transit officials say that they do want to use this eventually for all regional operators, Muni, Caltrain, AC Transit. So TBD for you, Alan. But I will say there is still something for Muni writers in the month of August, which is this big sink that I’m talking about. Have any of you heard of that? No, tell us more. So if you’re using more than one transit system, so you’re going from BART to Muni, all these agencies have tried to overhaul their schedules in order to make transfers a lot easier and a lot faster. So the focus is really for transfer hubs. In the Bay Area, so Dublin Pleasanton, BART, Daly City BART, Palo Alto Caltrain, and Concord BART Station. In all, these agencies adjusted 18 bus routes at these four hubs to improve connection times with each other. No more sprinting from Caltrain to BART for example. These agencies are saying that these changes account for a 33% increase in weekday ideal transfers. So basically you get five to 10 minutes in between one transit system to another to calmly start your morning and walk to your next transfer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:13:08] That’s gonna make a big difference for a lot of people, because I talk to so many people that want to ride public transit more, but oftentimes it just takes so much longer than driving or getting a rideshare.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:19] Right, exactly. You know, these agencies, these transportation agencies that have been really struggling since the pandemic, they got a lot of work to do to get people back on busses and trains, right? And this is really part of it. In terms of the why, this is part of an ongoing implementation of what’s known as the Bay Area Transformation Action Plan from 2021, which is all about improving public transit, making it more user-friendly. And creating a more connected system among all these different transit agencies around the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:13:54] Love to see it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:13:55] See you on the N, or the 22…maybe I shouldn’t give out —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:58] Yeah you’re right. We’re just getting closer and closer to figuring out where Alan Montecillo lives in this episode.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:14:15] Well, that is the story that I have been following. Nastia, we’re gonna wrap this one up with you. What story have you been following this month?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:14:24] I’ve been following the story of cultural boycotts. So in late July, a bunch of artists announced that they’re taking their music off Spotify because the CEO, Daniel Ek actually just became the chairman of an AI weapons company called Helsing. In light of Israel’s war in Gaza, a lot of artists have been thinking in past couple of years, how… Cultural institutions and companies that serve the culture sector can be complicit in war profiteering. Gabe Moline from KQED Arts wrote a great piece about how Dear Hoof, which is an indie band that formed in San Francisco and are pretty big, announced taking their music off Spotify. And another big voice in that has been Kadia Bonet, who’s this great singer-songwriter, also from the Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:15:19] How much of a financial hit would artists take for deciding to pull their music off something like Spotify, which obviously is huge, you know, so many people use it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:15:28] Well, just based off streams, honestly, negligible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:15:32] Because they don’t get paid that much?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:15:32] They do not. They do not get paid much at all. I’ve actually been covering artists’ fight for better pay on streaming services for a few years now. And Spotify doesn’t release its exact figures of how much it pays, but the general estimate going around in the industry is that they get a third of a cent per stream. 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Boiler Room, for those that don’t know, it’s this huge online platform for DJs and they basically go to all these really cool music scenes from around the world and produce these really high quality videos of DJs killing it at parties that really puts you in the scene. So in previous years, being in BoilerRoom for a DJ was a stamp of approval. So it was a really big deal that all these smaller electronic music collectives that I’m sure would want the clout that comes with Boiler Room put their foot down and they pretty much organized an anti-Boiler Room music festival as a sign of protest because Boiler Rooms parent company, KKR, has weapons investments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:17:44] Has Spotify said anything about this? Are they noticing that there are some artists who are upset, whether it’s about their CEO specifically or payment in general?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:17:54] So Spotify has not issued a public statement about its CEO becoming chairman of the AI weapons company, but it does have a lot of information on its website kind of arguing that it does give artists all these opportunities and that artists wouldn’t be making a certain amount of money if it wasn’t for Spotify. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:02] I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to The Bay, local news to keep you rooted. And welcome to our August news roundup where we talk about some of the other stories that The Bay team and today a special guest have been following this month. I’m joined by senior editor, Alan Montecillo. What’s up, Alan?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:00:21] Hello.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:22] And our very special guest today is Nastia Vojnovskaya, associate editor of arts and culture for KQED. Hey Nastia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:29] Hi Ericka!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:30] Thank you so much for joining us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:32] Thanks for having me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:00:35] Before we dig into the stories that we’ve been following, Nastia, we wanted to have you on because it’s been a pretty busy August for you and the Arts Desk. Can you tell us a little bit about all the things you’ve been covering this month?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:00:49] It’s music festival season and full swing in the Bay Area. So earlier this month, I had the pleasure of covering Outside Lands. Um, I cover it every year. And this was a particularly good one where had I not been covering, I would have definitely wanted to be there for fun. Super standout performance by Doechii, who was not even a headliner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:01:13] Wow. I was just going to ask what were your favorite sets?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:01:25] She already had been at the top of my list of artists I’m watching, just based on her super strong album from last year, Alligator Bites Never Heal. And she just really showed everyone what showmanship and what being a performer is all about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:01:52] She can rap with the dexterity of Kendrick Lamar while moving like Megan Thee Stallion with no backing track. And then the whole performance was also formatted with this cheeky classroom lesson theme about hip hop. There were also so many homages to who came before and where she came from while creating this super futuristic vision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:02:16] August was kind of the month of music festivals or concerts in Golden Gate Park, right? There was Denton Company, Outside Lands, Zach Bryan. With Outside Lands how did it compare to previous years? And I mean, how do you know as an attendee and as someone covering it, whether it was like a big success compared to years past?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:02:35] I would say this year they did some very, very savvy booking. So in addition to Doechii, they had Doja Cat and also Tyler, The Creator. Tyler, he had played Outside Lands before, so when they announced it back in April, I was like, okay, I’m excited to see him again. I like him. But shortly before the festival, he released a fantastic new album. And it’s called Don’t Tap the Glass and the whole theme of that album is being present for the music in person and not being on your phone. And you kind of saw that translate in the crowd the way that people were so engaged. There were some really smart choices of well-positioned breakout acts that they booked. There’s this Brooklyn indie band whose name unfortunately we cannot say on the Radio, and it’s spelled F-C-U-K-E-R-S. And they played this smaller side stage earlier in the day. And I was so impressed by just how they packed out that stage with teens and 20-somethings who were just in this very dense crowd jumping up and down. They kind of have this indie sleaze vibe with electronics and live instruments and just like very sassy vocals. It’s very children of brat. And that band actually had a super packed high energy show, The Rickshaw Stop the night before. So I was just very impressed by how the festival had this mix of established and breaking acts that I think are about to be a lot bigger soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:05] I know LaRussell also performed at Outside Lands, and we also did a really amazing event with him this month as well. More on that on the show next month, actually. We did a real cool music showcase with LaRussall and the Good Company team. Really got to see some amazing artists locally, and we’re gonna do an interview with the winner next month. So look out for that, listeners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:34] I have a confession to make. I live next to the park. I have lived next to park for several years and I haven’t been to outside lands yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:04:41] But at least you can hear it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:04:43] I can hear it, I can definitely hear it. Some of my neighbors don’t love the fact that they can hear it, but I don’t mind. I should go and I will go. It’s expensive, but from what I hear, it’s worth it. I will get around to it, but I’m always a little embarrassed whenever this comes up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:59] Very clutch parking spot in front of his house, if you’re an outside lens attendee. Not that I’m offering it to our listeners. Well we’re gonna take a quick break and when we come back we’re going to dig into all the stories that we have been following this month. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:05:27] Let’s go ahead and dive into some of the other stories that we have been following this month. Alan, I wanna start with you and you’ve been following the Pickett Fire in Napa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:05:38] Yes, after a cold summer, a robust marine layer, Karl the Fog, out in full force, we are essentially in peak fire season from now until winter, basically, when it starts raining. And over the last week, we’ve had what has been the largest fire in the Bay Area so far, which is the Pickett fire. As of this taping, so Thursday morning, it has burned about 6,800 acres and is about 33% contained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:06:07] Yeah, and obviously whenever it comes to fire in the Bay Area, I think one of the main ways folks experience it is air quality, and I’ve been really watching that very closely. But can you tell us a little bit about where the fire is burning exactly? I know it’s pretty close to some big wineries in Napa, right, who are just about to approach harvest season.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:06:33] Yeah. So the fire broke out on the 21st of August along Pickett road in Napa County, just outside the town of Calistoga near several vineyards. So this fire is firmly, you know, in wine country, you know, In terms of smoke, the air quality management district did lift that advisory on Tuesday. So hopefully it’s not too bad anymore, but there’s still many areas where there are evacuation orders or evacuation warnings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:07:00] So has it burned down any residential areas?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:03] So far, it doesn’t seem like that’s happened. Not all the damage has been assessed yet. It seems like the main damage that’s been done, apart from smoke that can be hazardous to people’s health, is to crops. As Ericka mentioned, it is harvest season for these wineries. One early estimate from the county ag commissioner says approximately 1,500 acres of crops have been affected either by fire, by heat, or by smoke. Totaling and estimated, and again this is preliminary, about $65 million in damage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:07:38] Oh, wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:38] And what that means in a practical sense is, are wine grapes going to get ruined by the fire? This happened in 2020. And so the question just is, could that happen again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:07:50] Do you know how the wine industry has been adapting to that, if at all?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:07:54] Winemakers say, you know, over the last decade or so, the industry is trying to push for more research to figure out how to reduce the taste of smoke and minimize the effects of wildfire because you know it’s hard to tell immediately if the smoke has ruined your grapes. You won’t really know until you taste it. And there actually isn’t a ton of research yet on how to at least mitigate that. So maybe you do have smoke in your area because fire is a reality in California, but maybe there’s ways to minimize the taste and save the crops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:08:23] And I know it usually takes a while to figure out how a fire actually started, but do we know anything about how this fire in Napa began?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:08:33] So that is still under investigation. We don’t know for sure. But there have been some questions and details trickling out, and reporters asking whether this fire started as the result of a “escaped control burn”, basically a fire that’s intended to reduce vegetation on a property. The Press Democrat noted that those words, escape control, burn, appeared on a Cal Fire public safety dispatch around the same time the fire was reported. For what it’s worth, the winery in question said through a spokesperson, you know, we’re working with fire investigators. This is premature. So nothing has been confirmed officially yet, but there are some worries that this could have been how the fire started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:19] Well, Alan, thank you so much for sharing that story with us. We’re going to be following that one in the weeks ahead, I’m sure. Moving on to the story that I have been following this month, Nastia, Alan, you’re both public transit writers in the Bay Area, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:09:39] Yes, I took BART here this morning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:09:42] I’m a regular N rider.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:09:44] Nice and of course I’m a regular ferry rider and this might be of interest to all of us in this room. Some big changes have been happening to public transit in the Bay Area that is really all about making transit easier to ride. Not sure if you all have started using your debit or credit cards to ride BART but that is now a thing that you can do. And there’s also something called the Big Sync that is happening. Basically, all these transit systems in the Bay Area coordinating to make transfers a lot easier if you’re using one or more transit system. It’s about time. Right. I remember going to New York a couple of years ago and being able to ride the subway by just tapping my credit card. And as a tourist. I was amazed. I was mind blown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:10:43] Yeah, when they got rid of paper tickets and introduced clipper cards, I honestly always found it really problematic that if you lose your clipper card, you have to spend three dollars or something to get a new plastic card. And if you’re a low-income rider, you know that’s money you could be using for a meal. So I’m glad that they’re changing the way it’s done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:11:02] Well, and it also brings BART closer to transit systems that already have this. You mentioned this already. New York has it. Chicago has it, many places overseas have it already. Sadly, for those of us who travel among multiple transit agencies, so let’s say you’re going BART to Muni like you do, it hasn’t come to Muni yet, right? You’ll still tap your credit card for BART and then use something else for Muni.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:11:25] Yeah, fumble to find your other plastic card to ride Muni. Yes, that is correct. This open payment system, as it’s called, of using a debit card or a credit card has not rolled out for Muni yet, but that kind of is the goal. Bay Area Transit officials say that they do want to use this eventually for all regional operators, Muni, Caltrain, AC Transit. So TBD for you, Alan. But I will say there is still something for Muni writers in the month of August, which is this big sink that I’m talking about. Have any of you heard of that? No, tell us more. So if you’re using more than one transit system, so you’re going from BART to Muni, all these agencies have tried to overhaul their schedules in order to make transfers a lot easier and a lot faster. So the focus is really for transfer hubs. In the Bay Area, so Dublin Pleasanton, BART, Daly City BART, Palo Alto Caltrain, and Concord BART Station. In all, these agencies adjusted 18 bus routes at these four hubs to improve connection times with each other. No more sprinting from Caltrain to BART for example. These agencies are saying that these changes account for a 33% increase in weekday ideal transfers. So basically you get five to 10 minutes in between one transit system to another to calmly start your morning and walk to your next transfer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:13:08] That’s gonna make a big difference for a lot of people, because I talk to so many people that want to ride public transit more, but oftentimes it just takes so much longer than driving or getting a rideshare.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:19] Right, exactly. You know, these agencies, these transportation agencies that have been really struggling since the pandemic, they got a lot of work to do to get people back on busses and trains, right? And this is really part of it. In terms of the why, this is part of an ongoing implementation of what’s known as the Bay Area Transformation Action Plan from 2021, which is all about improving public transit, making it more user-friendly. And creating a more connected system among all these different transit agencies around the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:13:54] Love to see it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:13:55] See you on the N, or the 22…maybe I shouldn’t give out —\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:13:58] Yeah you’re right. We’re just getting closer and closer to figuring out where Alan Montecillo lives in this episode.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:14:15] Well, that is the story that I have been following. Nastia, we’re gonna wrap this one up with you. What story have you been following this month?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:14:24] I’ve been following the story of cultural boycotts. So in late July, a bunch of artists announced that they’re taking their music off Spotify because the CEO, Daniel Ek actually just became the chairman of an AI weapons company called Helsing. In light of Israel’s war in Gaza, a lot of artists have been thinking in past couple of years, how… Cultural institutions and companies that serve the culture sector can be complicit in war profiteering. Gabe Moline from KQED Arts wrote a great piece about how Dear Hoof, which is an indie band that formed in San Francisco and are pretty big, announced taking their music off Spotify. And another big voice in that has been Kadia Bonet, who’s this great singer-songwriter, also from the Bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:15:19] How much of a financial hit would artists take for deciding to pull their music off something like Spotify, which obviously is huge, you know, so many people use it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:15:28] Well, just based off streams, honestly, negligible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:15:32] Because they don’t get paid that much?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:15:32] They do not. They do not get paid much at all. I’ve actually been covering artists’ fight for better pay on streaming services for a few years now. And Spotify doesn’t release its exact figures of how much it pays, but the general estimate going around in the industry is that they get a third of a cent per stream. So basically to make the equivalent of earning $15 an hour at a full time job, an artist would have to get over 650,000 Spotify streams per month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:16:06] Oh my gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya\u003c/strong> [00:16:06] So you have to be very popular to even see any amount of money. Most of the money in the music industry is in touring, but of course, Spotify does have a lot of clout. There’s a lot clout attached to being featured in a prominent playlist and having your music served up. To listeners, but despite that, there are a lot of artists that have been saying the way that Spotify is set up is rigged against the small indie artists.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:16:32] This is making me think about the story of the Bay Area DJs who protested boiler room for coming to San Francisco because of the company’s investments in the defense industry in Israel. Sort of the same kind of deal, and I feel like Bay Area artists really like putting their foot down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:16:53] Yeah, very similar. My good friend Olivia Cruz Mayeda covered that story for SF Chronicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:16:59] Shout out Olivia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:17:00] Yeah, shout out Olivia! Boiler Room, for those that don’t know, it’s this huge online platform for DJs and they basically go to all these really cool music scenes from around the world and produce these really high quality videos of DJs killing it at parties that really puts you in the scene. So in previous years, being in BoilerRoom for a DJ was a stamp of approval. So it was a really big deal that all these smaller electronic music collectives that I’m sure would want the clout that comes with Boiler Room put their foot down and they pretty much organized an anti-Boiler Room music festival as a sign of protest because Boiler Rooms parent company, KKR, has weapons investments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:17:44] Has Spotify said anything about this? Are they noticing that there are some artists who are upset, whether it’s about their CEO specifically or payment in general?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:17:54] So Spotify has not issued a public statement about its CEO becoming chairman of the AI weapons company, but it does have a lot of information on its website kind of arguing that it does give artists all these opportunities and that artists wouldn’t be making a certain amount of money if it wasn’t for Spotify. So they do have a whole section of their website that’s all about payment structure that people can go look at.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:18:20] From the consumer side, let’s say I really like one of these bands and I use Spotify and they’ve taken their music off, how should I listen to and support these artists?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:18:30] A lot of people recommend Bandcamp, not every artist has their music on there, but you can buy it directly and a big percentage goes to the artists. I know Apple Music introduced a new feature that easily allows you to transfer your Spotify playlists to Apple Music. People are talking about title. There are other streaming alternatives, but I will say I don’t think any of these artists would say that any of the services are perfect and all have their drawbacks. But I think if people want to support artists, especially the independent artists and their community, the best way is to buy tickets and show up to live shows and honestly buy merch, because merch is really the way that most artists make money these days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:19:16] Well, Nastia Voynovskaya, Associate Editor of Arts and Culture, thank you so much for bringing that story.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nastia Voynovskaya \u003c/strong>[00:19:22] Thank you, Ericka and Alan for having me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:19:26] And Alan Montecillo, Senior Editor of The Bay, thank you as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>In 2017, after the Tubbs Fire blazed through parts of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/california\">California’s\u003c/a> wine country, a Santa Rosa resident returned home to one of the few structures left standing in his fire-scarred neighborhood. He turned on the tap and reported that the water smelled like gasoline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sampling identified the source of the odor as benzene, a compound found in petroleum products. One sample contained 8,000 times the amount of benzene that the Environmental Protection Agency allows in drinking water.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After ruling out the usual culprits for benzene contamination, such as a gasoline spill or leaking underground storage tanks, utility staff were left with a startling realization: The wildfire had contaminated the water system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Typically, state regulators support and guide how public water systems address contamination. But this threat from wildfire was new.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No guidance or protocol existed for Santa Rosa’s water system to follow. Staff at Santa Rosa Water started reaching out to experts with experience responding to chemical spills, including a Purdue University engineering professor named Andrew Whelton. Whelton replied with exceptional interest, said Emma Walton, then a deputy director at the utility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since then, at least eight wildfires have contaminated public drinking water systems across the United States, and Whelton has become the de facto national authority on response and recovery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053442\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1760px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053442\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/LA_BFeinzimer.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1760\" height=\"1174\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/LA_BFeinzimer.jpg 1760w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/LA_BFeinzimer-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/LA_BFeinzimer-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1760px) 100vw, 1760px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Firefighters spray water onto a burning property in Altadena, California, during the L.A. wildfires earlier this year. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Brian Feinzimer/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>He has rushed from his home in Indiana to the side of utility managers from Colorado to Hawaii who were facing some of the most stressful infrastructure crises of their careers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He has clashed with California regulators over specific protocol and recommended managers test for more contaminants than regulators there require. Last year, Whelton published a blueprint for how water utility staff can look for and decontaminate their systems. Utility managers say it provides a resource in an area where federal and state guidelines are lacking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to describe how complex it was before we had this resource, because you were doing a lot of guessing on what was right and wrong,” said Kurt Kowar, a utility director who sought Whelton’s help in the aftermath of Colorado’s Marshall Fire in 2021. “And now, there’s no more guessing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jonathan Leung, director of water quality at Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, said his staff referred to this playbook to make their recovery plan after the LA fires earlier this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Armed with this tool, LADWP was able to restore water service in two months.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘He wrote back, I think within 30 minutes’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The benzene found in Santa Rosa’s water is one of many VOCs, or volatile organic compounds, that can enter municipal water systems when the buildings they’re connected to are destroyed by wildfire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>VOCs are a broad category of chemicals known for their ability to off-gas. They’re found in household and industrial products, including paints, pesticides, dry cleaning agents and petroleum fuels. They also form during natural processes such as volcanic eruptions and forest fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053565\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053565\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1452\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM2-160x116.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM2-1536x1115.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Purdue professor Andrew Whelton in his office on the school’s campus. \u003ccite>(Benjamin Thorp/APM Reports)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Before the Tubbs Fires, experts understood that wildfires can contaminate water sources through soil erosion and runoff. Events in Santa Rosa revealed that wildfires can also contaminate water systems at the pipes that bring treated drinking water to buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Experts say it works like this: damage to structures and excess demand for water cause depressurization. This creates a vacuum in the distribution system that can pull contaminants into service lines, water mains and connecting fixtures. Plastic pipes can also degrade at high temperatures, causing chemicals in the plastic to leach into the water. The contamination can be distributed unevenly in damaged areas, making it difficult to catch without sufficient sampling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Environmental Protection Agency regulates about 20 VOCs in drinking water that harm human health. Benzene, for example, has been linked to anemia, a decrease in blood platelets, and an increased risk of cancer. The agency limits benzene in drinking water to 5 micrograms per liter.[aside postID=news_12043312 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/06/CLAIRE-SCHWARTZ-L-AND-NINA-RAJ-WITH-A-CHILD_S-DRAWING-RECOVERED-BY-RAJ-AFTER-THE-EATON-FIRE-KQED-1020x765.jpg']California has a lower allowable maximum at 1 microgram per liter. If a million people consumed contaminated drinking water at this concentration over a 70-year period, the chemical would cause between six and seven cases of cancer, according to California regulators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But national drinking water standards set by the EPA do not account for this newly understood mode of contamination from wildfires. Water utilities routinely monitor for VOCs as the water leaves the treatment plant, upstream of where wildfire contamination is likely to occur.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2018, after the Camp Fire engulfed more than 90% of Paradise, California, Kevin Phillips needed answers to some pressing questions. The Paradise Irrigation District had just confirmed the presence of benzene in its water system and Phillips, the district manager, wanted to know if it would permanently contaminate the pipes. A contact at the University of California, Berkeley, suggested his team reach out to Whelton.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“[Whelton] wrote back, I think within 30 minutes, a list of things we should look for and how we go about this,” Phillips said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his response, Whelton recommended that Paradise begin by flushing the distribution network to remove any contaminated water currently in the pipes. But, he cautioned, success depended on the types of materials the water came into contact with, the concentration of chemicals in the water, the water temperature and other factors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053446\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053446\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-2000x1333.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-2048x1365.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Debris left behind by the Camp Fire in Paradise, California. \u003ccite>(Danielle Venton/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Plastics would be my biggest concern,” Whelton wrote. “Once you flush away the contaminated water, chemicals absorbed inside the plastic will then begin to leach out into the clean water.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The speed at which the chemicals leach out of the plastic determines how long decontamination takes, regardless of flushing, Whelton added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About a month later, Phillips flew Whelton and a small team from Purdue to Paradise to assist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“From that point on, he was really kind of our go-to expert when it came to water contamination,” Phillips said.[aside postID=news_12051854 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed-1020x680.jpg']This would not be the last time Whelton would steer a besieged water utility through such a crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About three years later, the Marshall Fire plowed through several neighborhoods in the town of Louisville, Colorado. Kurt Kowar, director of public works and utilities in Louisville, said state regulators told him their agency didn’t have the expertise to address this kind of contamination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, they suggested that he call Whelton, whom Kowar then looked up on Twitter. Kowar said Whelton called within a half hour of receiving Kowar’s introductory email.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the end of their conversation, Kowar said he knew what he needed to do next. “That’s when I said, ‘I’m gonna buy you a plane ticket. You’re gonna get on a plane. You’re gonna come here tomorrow, because we got to figure this out.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whelton, who had just returned home from a business trip, immediately headed to the airport, booking a redeye flight on his way there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The next morning, Whelton, Louisville water system staff, state regulators and others Whelton had recommended met in a nondescript conference room to make a plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>From his seat in the back of the room, Whelton noticed their questions were similar to the ones utility staff in Santa Rosa and Paradise had posed when they were going through their respective water contamination crises.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053454\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1024px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053454\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/C1.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/C1.jpeg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/C1-160x107.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Colorado’s Marshall Fire destroyed some homes while leaving others intact. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Hart Van Denburg/Colorado Public Radio)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This time, Whelton decided to take notes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whelton had worked for the U.S. Army on water infrastructure security before going into academia. The experience left him a firm believer in establishing military decision-making frameworks to address emerging disasters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He decided to turn their questions into a similarly styled manual for water utility recovery in the aftermath of a wildfire.[aside postID=news_12033286 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/20250312_Stay-Behinds_JB_00010-1020x680.jpg']He started putting together a concept of operations, or CONOPS, plan for water distribution system testing and recovery. The name was a nod to his military experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With funding from the Water Research Foundation, a nonprofit that serves water utilities, Whelton and two other Purdue researchers published the guide in 2024 to help utility managers “get from Point A to Point B with an evidence-based approach,” Whelton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report outlines the responsibilities of different parties during disaster response, from water utility staff to public health officials to state drinking water regulators. It also helps utility managers determine their options after a system tests positive for contamination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prior to the CONOPS, such information was spread out “on websites or in news articles or in people’s heads,” Kowar said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The EPA issued a seven-page document in 2021, but it reads like a “high-level guidance,” Kowar said. The CONOPS plan “is a much more thorough, vetted document” that takes the guesswork out of recovery efforts and reflects industry best practices, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the 2023 wildfires in Maui, the CONOPS plan got its first test run with Whelton, Phillips and Kowar present.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have no interest in doing this for the next 10 to 20 years,” Whelton said. “We need to train these leaders, operators and engineers in communities to help themselves in times of crises.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘If somebody would have shown me a draft’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In 2024, California law began requiring water utilities to test for benzene contamination whenever a wildfire of 300 or more acres damaged or destroyed structures connected to a water system. California appears to be the only state with mandated testing after wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But according to Whelton, California’s law is not protective enough because it only requires water systems to test for benzene and not other VOCs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053455\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1024px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053455\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/C2.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/C2.jpeg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/C2-160x107.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">VOC contamination tends to occur in areas where water systems lose pressure and structures connected to the water system are damaged. Photo from a flyover of neighborhoods affected by the Marshall Fire. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Hart Van Denburg/Colorado Public Radio)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The idea that a single chemical could be “the panacea for a complex issue is bonkers,” he said. “If somebody would have shown me a draft of what actually got promulgated, I would have made clear that the code as written is going to result in potentially unsafe water for people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While benzene is the most common VOC found in water after wildfires, data from previous fires show that other VOCs can contaminate drinking water after wildfires, too. Sometimes those VOCs are present even when benzene isn’t.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This happened in about a quarter of the samples taken after the Marshall Fire, according to Corona Environmental Consulting, a local agency that worked on the response.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053681\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053681\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM3.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM3-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM3-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Andrew Whelton holds a piece of fire-damaged water infrastructure in his lab. \u003ccite>(Benjamin Thorp/APM Reports)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Regulators at the California State Water Resources Control Board who weighed in on the law have said benzene is an adequate indicator for VOC contamination, nevertheless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Darrin Polhemus, deputy director of the state water board’s drinking water division, acknowledged that other VOCs will sometimes show up in samples where benzene is not present. But he said that benzene has the highest signal of all the VOCs based on sampling data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because of that, what we believe is that if you can manage for benzene, you’re basically managing for all of them,” Polhemus said, chalking the differences in perspective up to risk perception. “We’re dealing with the practicalities of cost and time and how to manage that compared with getting people back to their homes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Whelton disagrees, he said he is glad that “California decided that it’s important that people have their drinking water tested after a wildfire.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>On the ground in Los Angeles\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>After the January wildfires, Leung, the director of water quality at LAWDP, said his team opted to test for a broad panel of VOCs even though state law only required them to test for benzene.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of the 482 samples they took, Leung said, VOCs were detected without benzene present about 11 percent of the time, but “at levels far below the drinking water standard.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12023445\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12023445\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The remains of a house in Altadena, California, after the Eaton Fire swept through the area northeast of Los Angeles, on Thursday, Jan. 9, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Leung said his counterparts at the public water system in Oakland, California, sent him Whelton’s plan in the days after the fires. It was a document Leung said he found himself returning to as he began thinking about the water system’s next steps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Screening for and removing wildfire contaminants is “not necessarily intuitive,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the past, water utilities have thought their water systems were clean after analyzing samples taken immediately after flushing, only to have contaminants show up later as chemicals that had adhered to plastic pipes leached back into the water.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leung said he took care to make sure that the water sat in the pipes for 72 hours before collecting samples, even though the water system used mostly metal pipes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said Whelton’s plan helped him understand how different pipe materials absorb, retain and release VOCs, which cleaning strategies to use, and which areas of the water system to prioritize. Since LADWP’s water system had mostly copper, steel and galvanized iron water lines, Leung realized there was less concern about chemicals adhering to pipes.\u003cbr>\n[aside postID=news_12034277 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250328_Zorthian-Ranch_SK_17-1020x680.jpg']This, to Whelton, is proof that the CONOPS plan is working.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The plan empowered water utilities in Los Angeles County to address the threat of contamination head-on, Whelton said. “They actually read the plan, they used it, they called us on the telephone or webinar, and then they made decisions for themselves and were able to find their way out of that disaster.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whelton said he worries that some people outside of California may see VOC contamination as “a California problem,” even though wildfires are increasingly intersecting with urban communities because of climate change. And outside of California, it is completely discretionary whether a water system tests for contamination after a wildfire, Whelton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Effective disaster response depends on who’s in the room making decisions and the information they have access to, Whelton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whelton takes heart in the fact that public servants such as Walton, Phillips and Kowar have “stepped up when they were not legally required to,” and in doing so helped create the CONOPS plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I drove the effort, but it was because of everyone else coming together [that] we were able to deliver,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Typically, state regulators support and guide how public water systems address contamination. But this threat from wildfire was new.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No guidance or protocol existed for Santa Rosa’s water system to follow. Staff at Santa Rosa Water started reaching out to experts with experience responding to chemical spills, including a Purdue University engineering professor named Andrew Whelton. Whelton replied with exceptional interest, said Emma Walton, then a deputy director at the utility.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since then, at least eight wildfires have contaminated public drinking water systems across the United States, and Whelton has become the de facto national authority on response and recovery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053442\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1760px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053442\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/LA_BFeinzimer.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1760\" height=\"1174\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/LA_BFeinzimer.jpg 1760w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/LA_BFeinzimer-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/LA_BFeinzimer-1536x1025.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1760px) 100vw, 1760px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Firefighters spray water onto a burning property in Altadena, California, during the L.A. wildfires earlier this year. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Brian Feinzimer/LAist)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>He has rushed from his home in Indiana to the side of utility managers from Colorado to Hawaii who were facing some of the most stressful infrastructure crises of their careers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He has clashed with California regulators over specific protocol and recommended managers test for more contaminants than regulators there require. Last year, Whelton published a blueprint for how water utility staff can look for and decontaminate their systems. Utility managers say it provides a resource in an area where federal and state guidelines are lacking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s hard to describe how complex it was before we had this resource, because you were doing a lot of guessing on what was right and wrong,” said Kurt Kowar, a utility director who sought Whelton’s help in the aftermath of Colorado’s Marshall Fire in 2021. “And now, there’s no more guessing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jonathan Leung, director of water quality at Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, said his staff referred to this playbook to make their recovery plan after the LA fires earlier this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Armed with this tool, LADWP was able to restore water service in two months.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘He wrote back, I think within 30 minutes’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The benzene found in Santa Rosa’s water is one of many VOCs, or volatile organic compounds, that can enter municipal water systems when the buildings they’re connected to are destroyed by wildfire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>VOCs are a broad category of chemicals known for their ability to off-gas. They’re found in household and industrial products, including paints, pesticides, dry cleaning agents and petroleum fuels. They also form during natural processes such as volcanic eruptions and forest fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053565\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053565\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1452\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM2-160x116.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/WildfiresAPM2-1536x1115.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Purdue professor Andrew Whelton in his office on the school’s campus. \u003ccite>(Benjamin Thorp/APM Reports)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Before the Tubbs Fires, experts understood that wildfires can contaminate water sources through soil erosion and runoff. Events in Santa Rosa revealed that wildfires can also contaminate water systems at the pipes that bring treated drinking water to buildings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Experts say it works like this: damage to structures and excess demand for water cause depressurization. This creates a vacuum in the distribution system that can pull contaminants into service lines, water mains and connecting fixtures. Plastic pipes can also degrade at high temperatures, causing chemicals in the plastic to leach into the water. The contamination can be distributed unevenly in damaged areas, making it difficult to catch without sufficient sampling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Environmental Protection Agency regulates about 20 VOCs in drinking water that harm human health. Benzene, for example, has been linked to anemia, a decrease in blood platelets, and an increased risk of cancer. The agency limits benzene in drinking water to 5 micrograms per liter.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>California has a lower allowable maximum at 1 microgram per liter. If a million people consumed contaminated drinking water at this concentration over a 70-year period, the chemical would cause between six and seven cases of cancer, according to California regulators.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But national drinking water standards set by the EPA do not account for this newly understood mode of contamination from wildfires. Water utilities routinely monitor for VOCs as the water leaves the treatment plant, upstream of where wildfire contamination is likely to occur.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2018, after the Camp Fire engulfed more than 90% of Paradise, California, Kevin Phillips needed answers to some pressing questions. The Paradise Irrigation District had just confirmed the presence of benzene in its water system and Phillips, the district manager, wanted to know if it would permanently contaminate the pipes. A contact at the University of California, Berkeley, suggested his team reach out to Whelton.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“[Whelton] wrote back, I think within 30 minutes, a list of things we should look for and how we go about this,” Phillips said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his response, Whelton recommended that Paradise begin by flushing the distribution network to remove any contaminated water currently in the pipes. But, he cautioned, success depended on the types of materials the water came into contact with, the concentration of chemicals in the water, the water temperature and other factors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053446\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053446\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-scaled.jpg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-2000x1333.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/Paradise_DVenton-2048x1365.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Debris left behind by the Camp Fire in Paradise, California. \u003ccite>(Danielle Venton/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Plastics would be my biggest concern,” Whelton wrote. “Once you flush away the contaminated water, chemicals absorbed inside the plastic will then begin to leach out into the clean water.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The speed at which the chemicals leach out of the plastic determines how long decontamination takes, regardless of flushing, Whelton added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About a month later, Phillips flew Whelton and a small team from Purdue to Paradise to assist.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“From that point on, he was really kind of our go-to expert when it came to water contamination,” Phillips said.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>This would not be the last time Whelton would steer a besieged water utility through such a crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About three years later, the Marshall Fire plowed through several neighborhoods in the town of Louisville, Colorado. Kurt Kowar, director of public works and utilities in Louisville, said state regulators told him their agency didn’t have the expertise to address this kind of contamination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, they suggested that he call Whelton, whom Kowar then looked up on Twitter. Kowar said Whelton called within a half hour of receiving Kowar’s introductory email.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the end of their conversation, Kowar said he knew what he needed to do next. “That’s when I said, ‘I’m gonna buy you a plane ticket. You’re gonna get on a plane. You’re gonna come here tomorrow, because we got to figure this out.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whelton, who had just returned home from a business trip, immediately headed to the airport, booking a redeye flight on his way there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The next morning, Whelton, Louisville water system staff, state regulators and others Whelton had recommended met in a nondescript conference room to make a plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>From his seat in the back of the room, Whelton noticed their questions were similar to the ones utility staff in Santa Rosa and Paradise had posed when they were going through their respective water contamination crises.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053454\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1024px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053454\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/C1.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/C1.jpeg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/C1-160x107.jpeg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Colorado’s Marshall Fire destroyed some homes while leaving others intact. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Hart Van Denburg/Colorado Public Radio)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This time, Whelton decided to take notes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whelton had worked for the U.S. Army on water infrastructure security before going into academia. The experience left him a firm believer in establishing military decision-making frameworks to address emerging disasters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He decided to turn their questions into a similarly styled manual for water utility recovery in the aftermath of a wildfire.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>He started putting together a concept of operations, or CONOPS, plan for water distribution system testing and recovery. The name was a nod to his military experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With funding from the Water Research Foundation, a nonprofit that serves water utilities, Whelton and two other Purdue researchers published the guide in 2024 to help utility managers “get from Point A to Point B with an evidence-based approach,” Whelton said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report outlines the responsibilities of different parties during disaster response, from water utility staff to public health officials to state drinking water regulators. It also helps utility managers determine their options after a system tests positive for contamination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prior to the CONOPS, such information was spread out “on websites or in news articles or in people’s heads,” Kowar said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The EPA issued a seven-page document in 2021, but it reads like a “high-level guidance,” Kowar said. The CONOPS plan “is a much more thorough, vetted document” that takes the guesswork out of recovery efforts and reflects industry best practices, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the 2023 wildfires in Maui, the CONOPS plan got its first test run with Whelton, Phillips and Kowar present.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have no interest in doing this for the next 10 to 20 years,” Whelton said. “We need to train these leaders, operators and engineers in communities to help themselves in times of crises.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘If somebody would have shown me a draft’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In 2024, California law began requiring water utilities to test for benzene contamination whenever a wildfire of 300 or more acres damaged or destroyed structures connected to a water system. 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But he said that benzene has the highest signal of all the VOCs based on sampling data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because of that, what we believe is that if you can manage for benzene, you’re basically managing for all of them,” Polhemus said, chalking the differences in perspective up to risk perception. “We’re dealing with the practicalities of cost and time and how to manage that compared with getting people back to their homes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Whelton disagrees, he said he is glad that “California decided that it’s important that people have their drinking water tested after a wildfire.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>On the ground in Los Angeles\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>After the January wildfires, Leung, the director of water quality at LAWDP, said his team opted to test for a broad panel of VOCs even though state law only required them to test for benzene.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of the 482 samples they took, Leung said, VOCs were detected without benzene present about 11 percent of the time, but “at levels far below the drinking water standard.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12023445\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12023445\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240109-CAWindStorm-075_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The remains of a house in Altadena, California, after the Eaton Fire swept through the area northeast of Los Angeles, on Thursday, Jan. 9, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Leung said his counterparts at the public water system in Oakland, California, sent him Whelton’s plan in the days after the fires. It was a document Leung said he found himself returning to as he began thinking about the water system’s next steps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Screening for and removing wildfire contaminants is “not necessarily intuitive,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the past, water utilities have thought their water systems were clean after analyzing samples taken immediately after flushing, only to have contaminants show up later as chemicals that had adhered to plastic pipes leached back into the water.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Leung said he took care to make sure that the water sat in the pipes for 72 hours before collecting samples, even though the water system used mostly metal pipes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said Whelton’s plan helped him understand how different pipe materials absorb, retain and release VOCs, which cleaning strategies to use, and which areas of the water system to prioritize. Since LADWP’s water system had mostly copper, steel and galvanized iron water lines, Leung realized there was less concern about chemicals adhering to pipes.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Shivering in your sleeping bag on a freezing cold night camping is an experience that many can relate to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But California summer camping in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1998156/the-bay-area-weekend-warm-up-isnt-a-heat-wave-although-it-may-feel-like-one\">hot weather\u003c/a> can be equally unpleasant — not to mention potentially dangerous.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Heat-related illness is one of the leading causes of weather-related deaths in the country, \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdc.gov/nssp/php/partnerships/health-impact-from-heat-waves.html\">according to data from the Centers for Disease and Control\u003c/a>. And at the very least, hot weather in the forecast can dampen your plans for a fun-filled weekend of camping, that is, if you’re not prepared.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But if you’re worrying about sky-high temperatures on your next summer camping trip, rest assured, there are ways to get the most out of even a broiling hot campsite.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keep reading for tips from the experts on how to keep safe, keep cool and keep having fun while camping during super hot weather.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Seek out shade — or make some\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you’ve got plans to go inland toward the heat and can’t change them, finding — or bringing — shade can be a lifesaver.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12035546\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1998px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12035546\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1998\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed.jpg 1998w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed-1020x681.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1998px) 100vw, 1998px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Look for a spot with ample trees for shade, away from valleys or even a space on a ridgeline for more wind. \u003ccite>(Twenty47studio/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If you have flexibility with your choice, site selection is key here. Look for a spot with ample trees for shade or that’s away from valleys, or even a spot on a ridgeline for more wind.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Worried that your campsite might be too exposed? Sports Basement rental operations manager Mateo Sanchez recommends \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12052357/campsites-california-rentals-comfort-bougie-camping\">renting \u003c/a>a pop-up canopy to create your own shade, which you can even set up \u003cem>above \u003c/em>your tent to keep your sleeping space sheltered from the hot sun.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Make sure you’re dressing right for the heat\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>This may sound counterintuitive, but wearing more clothes can sometimes keep you cooler. Put on generous amounts of sunscreen, but also look for shirts with a \u003ca href=\"https://www.skincancer.org/skin-cancer-prevention/sun-protection/sun-protective-clothing/\">UPF rating\u003c/a> or that are made of natural fibers like linen, cotton or even lightweight wool, and won’t be as stuffy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Covering up means your skin stays cool and protected from the sun’s harsh rays, and you’re less likely to get a sunburn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You always want to dress in layers,” California State Parks Central Valley District spokesperson Amber Sprock said. “Even if it’s hot, it may cool off in the evening.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bring a hat and sunglasses to keep you comfortable even while you’re out and about. You can even dunk your hat, a bandana or your clothes into cold water to keep cool. To combat sweaty feet, leave the hiking boots at home and opt for mesh-topped running shoes or sandals if you don’t plan on hiking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bottom line, Sanchez said: “Stay out of the sun.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Create ventilation for your tent\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Sometimes, all it takes to turn a boiling hot campsite into a summer paradise is a strong breeze. So set up your site to take advantage of \u003cem>any \u003c/em>wind that comes through the area by looking for perches like ridgelines up and out of valleys and sites that aren’t enclosed by dense forest or buildings on more than one side. If your tent has mesh windows, aim them toward the source of the wind.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pitch your tent to take advantage of the morning shade by tracing the sun’s path backwards toward the east and finding trees that might block it in the morning — and so long as there’s no rain in the forecast, leave your rain fly off the tent. That will allow for more ventilation to run through your sleeping area to keep you cool at night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://koa.com/blog/tips-for-staying-cool-on-summer-camping-trips/\">You can even disassemble your tent during the hottest part of the day\u003c/a> to avoid it heating up on the inside. Skip the bedtime campfire and the sleeping bag if it’s too hot, or try out sleeping in a hammock in the shade to avoid a stuffy tent entirely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Going to bed early and starting early can also keep you from waking up in a pool of your own nighttime sweat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you’ve got the space, consider bringing a portable fan that’s solar or battery powered or a large box fan and a generator to your campsite to help create your own wind. Or, you can choose to camp in a spot like \u003ca href=\"https://www.ebparks.org/parks/anthony-chabot/camping\">Anthony Chabot Campground \u003c/a>in Castro Valley that has full electricity, sewer and water hookups — typically used by RVers — even if you’re just tent camping.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the hookup sites, people have all kinds of things,” Anthony Chabot Campground Park Supervisor Maurice Quince said. “I’ve even seen people with misters on the side of their pop-up tents.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A strong crosswind will also help disperse bugs like mosquitoes, as they tend to be active during the summer months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953871\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11953871 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A view of two yellow tents in a forest of tall redwood treats, in low light\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1291\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut-800x538.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut-1020x686.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut-160x108.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut-1536x1033.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">There are many ways to keep your campsite cool in high summer heat. \u003ccite>(Robert Holmes/Getty)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Plan activities during morning and evening\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Sprock, whose district covers Central Valley parks like \u003ca href=\"https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=557\">Caswell Memorial State Park\u003c/a> in San Joaquin County — \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/newsletter/extreme-heat-california-illness/\">one of the hottest areas in the state \u003c/a>— said she recommends getting an early start to your day or delaying strenuous activities so you’re not out in direct sun during the hottest part of the day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you have a hike you want to do, or you have some outdoor picnicking you’d like to do, maybe planning it earlier in the morning or later towards the evening is better so you can avoid that heat,” she said.[aside postID=news_12052357 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/GettyImages-1707931940-2000x1334.jpg']Caswell is situated on the \u003ca href=\"https://stanislausriver.com/\">Stanislaus River\u003c/a> and has plenty of shade from its oak riparian forest, making it an ideal pick for hot-weather campers who want plenty of access to cool shade and water.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And while you’re out and about, don’t forget to bring \u003cem>lots \u003c/em>of water, Sprock said. A cooler full of ice and cold drinks, \u003ca href=\"https://www.uab.edu/news/news-you-can-use/understanding-the-relationship-between-electrolytes-hydration-and-summer-heat\">especially those with electrolytes,\u003c/a> will help you keep your body hydrated and your temperature in check — and you can use the ice water it creates as relief for your neck or back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of all, it’s OK to pause what you’re doing, get out of the heat and stay safe during midday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you know it’s gonna be 105,” Sprock said, “make sure that there is a place for you to take a break — either in your vehicle or on a shaded picnic bench.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>For your next trip: Head toward cooler temperatures …\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>While \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/28/us-weather-heatwave-temperatures-east\">some areas of the country have been experiencing a heat wave\u003c/a> this summer, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1997911/cool-for-the-summer-bay-area-sweater-weather-could-linger-into-august\">parts of the Bay Area have been largely spared\u003c/a> and are even reporting colder-than-normal summer temperatures. That’s in large part due to its \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1997579/bay-area-hikes-views-clouds-marine-inversion-layer\">proximity to the Pacific Ocean, \u003c/a>which brings ample fog to the California coast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So if you’re worried about heat while camping in the future, consider heading away from inland locations and out toward the ocean — where wind and fog will keep you cooler.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12049142\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12049142\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/BigSurGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/BigSurGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/BigSurGetty-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/BigSurGetty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A couple climbs a pilaster to get a view south to the coastline of Julia Pfeiffer Burns State Park along California Highway 1 on May 2, 2021, in Big Sur, California. \u003ccite>(Brian van der Brug/Los Angeles Times via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Our rule of thumb is: ‘When it gets hot, head more towards the coast,’” Sports Basement’s Sanchez said. “That’s going to be cooler nine times out of 10.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alternatively, you can always go up in altitude — think Tahoe or the High Sierra, where temperatures tend to stay below the 90s during the day and cool down rapidly at night, especially if you camp outside \u003ca href=\"https://www.fs.usda.gov/r05/laketahoebasin\">the Lake Tahoe Basin\u003c/a> itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>… and plan to camp near water\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you’re planning to stay close by, consider camping near a river or lake where you can take frequent dips to stay cool. For example, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12048728/where-to-swim-lakes-bay-area-not-lake-tahoe\">some non-Lake Tahoe lake spots that are still within a few hours’ drive of the Bay Area\u003c/a> may be less crowded once school is back in session.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stacy Wyman, who manages \u003ca href=\"https://www.goldcountrycampground.com/\">Gold Country Campground Resort\u003c/a> in Amador County’s Pine Grove, said the hottest months bring their peak visitation, between May and October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s also when their swimming pool and spray park are open to keep visitors cool during the heat of the summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“On holidays, especially when it’s super hot, we’ll even have water games,” Wyman said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12045255/south-yuba-state-park-american-river-safety-2025-weather\">Just remember — if you’re planning to cool off in a fast-moving river, stay aware of the dangers\u003c/a>, and don’t forget your life jacket.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeCeDp_MY_h4G6VWj_-VPl-BJlQ3Uya2H0vxRZZd_47BpXwVA/viewform?embedded=true\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But if you’re worrying about sky-high temperatures on your next summer camping trip, rest assured, there are ways to get the most out of even a broiling hot campsite.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keep reading for tips from the experts on how to keep safe, keep cool and keep having fun while camping during super hot weather.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Seek out shade — or make some\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you’ve got plans to go inland toward the heat and can’t change them, finding — or bringing — shade can be a lifesaver.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12035546\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1998px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12035546\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1998\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed.jpg 1998w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed-1020x681.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/GettyImages-1366211065_qed-1920x1281.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1998px) 100vw, 1998px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Look for a spot with ample trees for shade, away from valleys or even a space on a ridgeline for more wind. \u003ccite>(Twenty47studio/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If you have flexibility with your choice, site selection is key here. Look for a spot with ample trees for shade or that’s away from valleys, or even a spot on a ridgeline for more wind.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Worried that your campsite might be too exposed? Sports Basement rental operations manager Mateo Sanchez recommends \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12052357/campsites-california-rentals-comfort-bougie-camping\">renting \u003c/a>a pop-up canopy to create your own shade, which you can even set up \u003cem>above \u003c/em>your tent to keep your sleeping space sheltered from the hot sun.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Make sure you’re dressing right for the heat\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>This may sound counterintuitive, but wearing more clothes can sometimes keep you cooler. Put on generous amounts of sunscreen, but also look for shirts with a \u003ca href=\"https://www.skincancer.org/skin-cancer-prevention/sun-protection/sun-protective-clothing/\">UPF rating\u003c/a> or that are made of natural fibers like linen, cotton or even lightweight wool, and won’t be as stuffy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Covering up means your skin stays cool and protected from the sun’s harsh rays, and you’re less likely to get a sunburn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You always want to dress in layers,” California State Parks Central Valley District spokesperson Amber Sprock said. “Even if it’s hot, it may cool off in the evening.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bring a hat and sunglasses to keep you comfortable even while you’re out and about. You can even dunk your hat, a bandana or your clothes into cold water to keep cool. To combat sweaty feet, leave the hiking boots at home and opt for mesh-topped running shoes or sandals if you don’t plan on hiking.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The bottom line, Sanchez said: “Stay out of the sun.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Create ventilation for your tent\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Sometimes, all it takes to turn a boiling hot campsite into a summer paradise is a strong breeze. So set up your site to take advantage of \u003cem>any \u003c/em>wind that comes through the area by looking for perches like ridgelines up and out of valleys and sites that aren’t enclosed by dense forest or buildings on more than one side. If your tent has mesh windows, aim them toward the source of the wind.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pitch your tent to take advantage of the morning shade by tracing the sun’s path backwards toward the east and finding trees that might block it in the morning — and so long as there’s no rain in the forecast, leave your rain fly off the tent. That will allow for more ventilation to run through your sleeping area to keep you cool at night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://koa.com/blog/tips-for-staying-cool-on-summer-camping-trips/\">You can even disassemble your tent during the hottest part of the day\u003c/a> to avoid it heating up on the inside. Skip the bedtime campfire and the sleeping bag if it’s too hot, or try out sleeping in a hammock in the shade to avoid a stuffy tent entirely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Going to bed early and starting early can also keep you from waking up in a pool of your own nighttime sweat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you’ve got the space, consider bringing a portable fan that’s solar or battery powered or a large box fan and a generator to your campsite to help create your own wind. Or, you can choose to camp in a spot like \u003ca href=\"https://www.ebparks.org/parks/anthony-chabot/camping\">Anthony Chabot Campground \u003c/a>in Castro Valley that has full electricity, sewer and water hookups — typically used by RVers — even if you’re just tent camping.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the hookup sites, people have all kinds of things,” Anthony Chabot Campground Park Supervisor Maurice Quince said. “I’ve even seen people with misters on the side of their pop-up tents.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A strong crosswind will also help disperse bugs like mosquitoes, as they tend to be active during the summer months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11953871\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11953871 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A view of two yellow tents in a forest of tall redwood treats, in low light\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1291\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut-800x538.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut-1020x686.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut-160x108.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/06/RS66535_GettyImages-523679818-1-qut-1536x1033.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">There are many ways to keep your campsite cool in high summer heat. \u003ccite>(Robert Holmes/Getty)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Plan activities during morning and evening\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Sprock, whose district covers Central Valley parks like \u003ca href=\"https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=557\">Caswell Memorial State Park\u003c/a> in San Joaquin County — \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/newsletter/extreme-heat-california-illness/\">one of the hottest areas in the state \u003c/a>— said she recommends getting an early start to your day or delaying strenuous activities so you’re not out in direct sun during the hottest part of the day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you have a hike you want to do, or you have some outdoor picnicking you’d like to do, maybe planning it earlier in the morning or later towards the evening is better so you can avoid that heat,” she said.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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He’s a father, he has two kids, so he thinks about this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Matthew Milner \u003c/strong>[00:02:53] Because the world is changing and so we’re just trying to make the world a better place for our kids and we wanted to get rooftop solar but it’s so expensive this kind of allows us to dip our toe in a little bit without having a huge financial cost.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:03:10] He saw something about Plug& Solar, and he was curious. And he saw one of the organizations that was doing it was based in the Bay Area. And he was like, oh, interesting. That organization turns out to be this nonprofit called Bright Saver.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rupert Mayer \u003c/strong>[00:03:23] Do you want a hammer to drive it in? No, I was thinking where I’m getting the shuffle. I’m just digging a little bit of a hole.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:03:28] Two of the co-founders were there. One of them was Rupert Mayer, who was helping to do this installation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rupert Mayer \u003c/strong>[00:03:34] This is all the gear that we’ll be using. Oftentimes, including here, we are mounting a dedicated outlet outside the house because the break-up handle is…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:03:44] And they had an electrician as well to make sure it was, you know, totally fine. And it took like two or three hours.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rupert Mayer \u003c/strong>[00:03:51] You know what? I think I’ll grab another of these legs and mount it on this side. Then both sides are standing on a leg and we could fine tune…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:04:06] What it looks like is just angled solar panels against his wooden fence. They’re secured to the fence. There’s like, they dug a little bit of holes and stuff into the dirt at the bottom. So they’re secured there. And then they ran a cord through something that will convert the power from solar to something we can use in our homes. And then there’s just another cord and goes with a standard plug and they can plug it right in. So they plugged it into an outside outlet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rupert Mayer \u003c/strong>[00:04:32] So we will be plugging in the solar panel, big moment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:04:39] And then he started offsetting his bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rupert Mayer \u003c/strong>[00:04:43] Are running your house on clean, free energy from your backyard. The investment aside, the marginal cost is zero.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:56] So for Matthew, it took about two to three hours to install this thing. How much did it ultimately cost him? And also how much power is he going to be able to get out of this plugin solar?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:05:07] Yeah, so it cost him $1,700 and that is before he’ll get 30% back from federal rebates. A lot of the cost of solar is in the labor and the installation. It generates at most 800 watts of electricity. So it could offset like a refrigerator, your phones, your laptop, your TV, some, you know, your lights. It’s around a fifth of the amount of energy that a typical California household would use.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:05:40] That $1,700 that Matt Milner paid is much lower than the usual cost of rooftop solar, which can go for anywhere from $8,000 to $30,000. Supporters of Plugin Solar hope that someday, anyone could just go to a store, buy Plugin solar, and set it up themselves. And it turns out that’s not a pipe dream. And there are also other countries where this technology is actually pretty normal, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:06:16] Yeah, in Germany, it’s very common. And they have built a movement that’s taken more than a decade to break through some of the barriers that exist right now for this to take off in the United States. But in Germany there are about 4 million arrays, like 4 million people or households with these.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cora Stryker \u003c/strong>[00:06:36] We don’t want it to take 10 years like it took in Germany. We feel much more urgency when it comes to climate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:06:42] Cora Stryker is one of the co-founders of Bright Saver.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Cora Stryker \u003c/strong>[00:06:46] Here to jumpstart the movement, get more manufacturers into the game, competition will drive down prices, increase ease of use.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:06:53] Their goal is to move this plug-in solar idea forward in the United States. And then there’s a bunch of other companies in this space around the country too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:07:07] So, I mean, you mentioned barriers in Germany. I imagine that might be the reason why not a lot of people here seem to have plug-in solar or even know about them. I mean why isn’t it sort of more widespread?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:07:24] There are a lot of barriers right now in the United States. So there’s some technical barriers, but those don’t seem to be really the biggest ones. The biggest ones are, this is such a new technology, so we don’t have this written into electrical codes. You know, these codes exist for safety and for utilities to be able to plan. There are also safety standards. Like any appliance, there are risks for plug-in solar. You could overheat a wire and cause a fire or send electricity back to the grid in a way that might harm a utility worker. The companies that I talked to all had mechanisms that prevented those things from happening. There’s also what’s required from state regulators and utilities. So for example, right now in California, our state regulator and PG&E say you have to register a plug-in solar system as if it were a rooftop solar system. That’s just a decent amount of paperwork. It comes with a fee anywhere from 100 ish dollars to 800 dollars depending on how you apply and it can take some time for PG&E They say it often only takes three days But it’s a barrier and and the idea with this thing is like off the shelf plug it in. In Germany for example, the registration form is just four questions. Then you’re legit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:08:48] All this registration stuff means that plug-in solar is something of a gray area. PG&E says this process is important for safety and reliability, but supporters of plug-ins solar say it puts up unnecessary barriers. For now, Bright Saver, the nonprofit that installed Matt Milner’s plug-In Solar, is shifting its focus to education. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you want solar power in your home, you usually need to be a homeowner with a good roof and a decent amount of cash to pay up front.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But some Bay Area residents are trying out plug-in solar, which can hang from an apartment balcony, out a window, or be tented in the backyard.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Links:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1997918/forget-rooftops-bay-area-residents-are-plugging-solar-into-the-wall\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Forget Rooftops — Bay Area Residents Are Plugging Solar Into the Wall\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cdiv>\u003cem>\u003ci>Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. San Francisco Northern California Local.\u003c/i>\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm?e=KQINC1091634272&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\n\u003cdiv>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:01:44] The dream for Plugin Solar is you go to a big box store or you just look online and you click a button or you check out, you set it up and then you plug it into your wall and you start offsetting your electrical bill. The idea here is like, this makes solar available to all kinds of people. 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He’s a father, he has two kids, so he thinks about this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Matthew Milner \u003c/strong>[00:02:53] Because the world is changing and so we’re just trying to make the world a better place for our kids and we wanted to get rooftop solar but it’s so expensive this kind of allows us to dip our toe in a little bit without having a huge financial cost.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:03:10] He saw something about Plug& Solar, and he was curious. And he saw one of the organizations that was doing it was based in the Bay Area. And he was like, oh, interesting. That organization turns out to be this nonprofit called Bright Saver.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rupert Mayer \u003c/strong>[00:03:23] Do you want a hammer to drive it in? No, I was thinking where I’m getting the shuffle. I’m just digging a little bit of a hole.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:03:28] Two of the co-founders were there. One of them was Rupert Mayer, who was helping to do this installation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rupert Mayer \u003c/strong>[00:03:34] This is all the gear that we’ll be using. Oftentimes, including here, we are mounting a dedicated outlet outside the house because the break-up handle is…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:03:44] And they had an electrician as well to make sure it was, you know, totally fine. And it took like two or three hours.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rupert Mayer \u003c/strong>[00:03:51] You know what? I think I’ll grab another of these legs and mount it on this side. Then both sides are standing on a leg and we could fine tune…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:04:06] What it looks like is just angled solar panels against his wooden fence. They’re secured to the fence. There’s like, they dug a little bit of holes and stuff into the dirt at the bottom. So they’re secured there. And then they ran a cord through something that will convert the power from solar to something we can use in our homes. And then there’s just another cord and goes with a standard plug and they can plug it right in. So they plugged it into an outside outlet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rupert Mayer \u003c/strong>[00:04:32] So we will be plugging in the solar panel, big moment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura Klivans \u003c/strong>[00:04:39] And then he started offsetting his bill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rupert Mayer \u003c/strong>[00:04:43] Are running your house on clean, free energy from your backyard. The investment aside, the marginal cost is zero.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:04:56] So for Matthew, it took about two to three hours to install this thing. How much did it ultimately cost him? 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That’s just a decent amount of paperwork. It comes with a fee anywhere from 100 ish dollars to 800 dollars depending on how you apply and it can take some time for PG&E They say it often only takes three days But it’s a barrier and and the idea with this thing is like off the shelf plug it in. In Germany for example, the registration form is just four questions. Then you’re legit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra \u003c/strong>[00:08:48] All this registration stuff means that plug-in solar is something of a gray area. PG&E says this process is important for safety and reliability, but supporters of plug-ins solar say it puts up unnecessary barriers. For now, Bright Saver, the nonprofit that installed Matt Milner’s plug-In Solar, is shifting its focus to education. 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Justices did not rule on whether the changes to the solar program were legal, requiring the court of appeals to determine this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They basically said the lower court kind of punted on the whole substance of the [solar payments] decision,” Bernadette Del Chiaro, vice president for California at the Environmental Working Group, said. “I do think they’re clearly stating this needs to be reviewed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003cbr>\nAt issue is a 2022 decision by state regulators to reduce by about 75% payments to solar panel owners for excess power. The change was intended to help make bills affordable for all customers while still encouraging the adoption of renewable energy sources. Three environmental groups that brought the lawsuit — the Center for Biological Diversity, The Protect our Communities Foundation, and the Environmental Working Group — argued in the case that the state utility commission’s decision left out crucial considerations around benefits to customers and disadvantaged communities.\u003cbr>\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\u003c/strong>“We don’t need [to be in] an affordability crisis if we have more local generation,” Roger Lin, senior attorney fro the Center for Biological Diversity, said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11998389\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2560px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/gettyimages-1747758424-scaled.jpeg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/gettyimages-1747758424-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"Two workers wearing hard hats carry a solar panel onto a rooftop.\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1760\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11998389\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/gettyimages-1747758424-scaled.jpeg 2560w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/gettyimages-1747758424-800x550.jpeg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/gettyimages-1747758424-1020x701.jpeg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/gettyimages-1747758424-160x110.jpeg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/gettyimages-1747758424-1536x1056.jpeg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/gettyimages-1747758424-2048x1408.jpeg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/gettyimages-1747758424-1920x1320.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">GRID Alternatives employees Sal Miranda, center, and Tony Chang, left, install no-cost solar panels on the rooftop of a low-income household on Oct. 19, 2023, in Pomona, California. \u003ccite>(Mario Tama/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Utilities pay solar panel owners for their excess power under a program known as “net energy metering.” In previous iterations of the program – “NEM 1.0” and “NEM 2.0” – utilities paid solar customers a retail rate for their extra energy, which is the same price the utilities charge other customers when they resell that energy. 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While the ruling doesn’t release the funds, it does stop them from being used for other purposes until a final ruling is reached in the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The President keeps breaking the law, and we keep holding him accountable in court,” Bonta said in a statement. “Shuttering this program would do nothing to prevent waste, fraud, and abuse or improve government efficiency.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In California, this program is helping to fund projects to reduce risks from landslides, flooding, fires and earthquakes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m pleased the District Court has ensured this funding will not be redirected and misspent while our litigation continues,” Bonta said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11959336\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11959336\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/230828-ROB-BONTA-AP-MJS-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"A man wearing a navy blue suit, white shirt and blue foulard tie speaks into a microphone.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/230828-ROB-BONTA-AP-MJS-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/230828-ROB-BONTA-AP-MJS-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/230828-ROB-BONTA-AP-MJS-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/230828-ROB-BONTA-AP-MJS-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/230828-ROB-BONTA-AP-MJS-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/08/230828-ROB-BONTA-AP-MJS-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">California Attorney General Rob Bonta fields questions during a press conference on Monday, Aug. 28, 2023, in Los Angeles. \u003ccite>(Marcio Jose Sanchez/AP Photo)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While FEMA officials said in public statements and advisories last April that they were concluding the program, they later said in court documents that they have not formally terminated the program, that they have the discretion to reallocate funds from the BRIC account and that the states lacked standing to sue because they hadn’t yet suffered harm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge rejected these arguments and ruled in favor of the states, saying the threat of harm hung overhead like the “Sword of Damocles” and that states didn’t have to wait until the sword dropped before seeking relief.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The judge wrote: “The BRIC program is designed to protect against natural disasters and save lives. The potential hardship to the Government, in contrast, is minimal.”[aside postID=science_1997852 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2025/07/240109-CAWindStorm-081_qed-1.jpg']A FEMA spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment on Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While FEMA has said previously that the program is wasteful and has become politicized, states say it is highly effective and has saved money and lives during disasters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The creation of BRIC after Hurricane Katrina was a milestone in foresight, Jeffrey Schlegelmilch, associate professor at the Columbia Climate School and director of the National Center for Disaster Preparedness, told\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1997852/bonta-sues-trump-again-this-time-for-torching-disaster-prep-in-crisis-prone-summer\"> KQED in July\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has historically been very difficult for states to fund infrastructure projects, but a dollar spent in pre-planning can save many more post-disaster. Indeed, FEMA’s own\u003ca href=\"https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/2020-07/fema_mitsaves-factsheet_2018.pdf\"> fact sheets\u003c/a> say every $1 spent on federal mitigation grants saves $6.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What the BRIC funding did was it created a standing mechanism where states and localities — through the states — could get funding for these really sort of large, kind of expensive infrastructure projects that would actually build resilience and prevent the loss of lives and loss of livelihood,” Schlegelmilch said. “So it marked a really important turning point. It was actually a very forward-looking achievement.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the July lawsuit, in recent years, four states — Louisiana, New Jersey, New York and Texas — have each avoided at least $10 billion in post-disaster costs thanks to BRIC grants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Updated at 3:20 p.m.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As multiple \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/wildfires\">blazes\u003c/a> burn across California, the Bay Area is facing increased fire risk this week, the National Weather Service warned Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meteorologist Rick Canepa said inland parts of Northern California — where grass and brush have dried out in the summer heat — will be particularly vulnerable amid low humidity and winds up to 40 mph during the afternoon and evening hours through Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ll be watching the parameters closely,” he said, especially in interior counties that are far from the typical reach of the San Francisco Bay’s marine layer. “The East Bay hills, down across the southern interior, areas farther inland into Napa County [and] northernmost Sonoma County [are] far removed from any coastal influence so that the conditions have dried out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In inland Lake County, just north of Napa and Sonoma, an “erratic” blaze broke out Sunday afternoon, spreading rapidly through dry brush and grass for multiple hours before firefighters halted forward progress just after 6 p.m.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Lake Fire grew to 400 acres, prompting evacuation orders for more than 3,380 people who reside there. Those orders were downgraded to warnings on Sunday night, and by Monday morning, all evacuation warnings were lifted. The blaze is 40% contained.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One structure was destroyed. One firefighter was taken to a local hospital for treatment of minor injuries, according to Cal Fire’s Sonoma–Lake–Napa unit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12050861\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12050861\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/GiffordFireGetty2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/GiffordFireGetty2.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/GiffordFireGetty2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/GiffordFireGetty2-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Gifford Fire burns 30,000 acres in Los Padres National Forest on Aug. 2, 2025. The fire becomes one of the largest wildfires of the season in California, illustrating the intensifying impact of climate change on fire behavior and frequency on the West Coast. \u003ccite>(Benjamin Hanson/Middle East Images/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Day shift operations will continue focusing on strengthening the established control lines, mopping up the interior of the fire, mitigating any hazards on the site and providing for both public and emergency personnel safety at all times,” the agency \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/CALFIRELNU/status/1952374157900943795\">wrote on social media\u003c/a> on Monday morning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Farther south, in similarly dry San Luis Obispo County, the Gifford Fire has taken a firmer hold. Over the weekend, the blaze grew out of multiple smaller wildfires that sparked Friday afternoon along Highway 166.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fire has so far spanned southern Santa Barbara and northern San Luis Obispo counties. As of Monday morning, it was still spreading north and south.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Los Padres National Forest spokesperson Flemming Bertelsen said that the southern direction is a multiple-front fire and has entered the San Rafael Wilderness — one of the first wilderness areas in the country to gain federal preservation protections.[aside postID=science_1998021 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2025/08/240109-CAWindStorm-069_qed.jpg']The area’s status makes firefighting more difficult, Bertelsen said, in part because it prohibits crews from using certain tools, like specialized bulldozers and chainsaws, without federal permission.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We were doing our best to try to keep it out of the wilderness,” Bertelsen said. “Once the fire gets established in pretty much any wilderness area, it’s significantly more challenging to stop due to the lack of roads and trails and fuel breaks.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The topography on the northern front of the fire is slightly more forgiving, Bertelsen said, and to the northeast, the blaze has already run into an area that burned in a separate, fully contained wildfire. He said firefighters are focused on ensuring flames don’t reach another wilderness area, the Machesna Mountain Wilderness, farther north.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because of the steep, sloping terrain and critically dry brush and other fuels in the area, Bertelsen said it’s likely that tall columns of smoke and gases will form within the fire throughout the day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Just imagine lighting a match, turning it upside down and observing how much faster it burns and how much more aggressively it burns,” he said. “When you have everything coming into alignment — the steep slopes, continuous fuels, the wind and then the solar radiation — it kind of sets things up to burn aggressively.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11840687\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11840687\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/RS45154_008_KQED_Napa_GlassFire_09302020-qut.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/RS45154_008_KQED_Napa_GlassFire_09302020-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/RS45154_008_KQED_Napa_GlassFire_09302020-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/RS45154_008_KQED_Napa_GlassFire_09302020-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/RS45154_008_KQED_Napa_GlassFire_09302020-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/10/RS45154_008_KQED_Napa_GlassFire_09302020-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A building destroyed at Calistoga Ranch in the Napa Valley on Sept. 30, 2020, after the Glass Fire tore through the area. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While Monday’s weather is supposed to be slightly more favorable for fire suppression, Bertelsen said, “We’re still a long ways off from hooking around these flaming fronts and buttoning them up to the point where we can say we’re approaching containment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far, there have been three fire-related injuries. One person driving a car along Highway 166 shortly after the blaze began Friday was burned, and two others were injured while conducting a utility check in the area. Bertelsen said those two injuries were not a direct result of flames or fire smoke.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More than 180 people have been evacuated and an additional 225 are under evacuation warnings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Bertelsen, there are ranches and residential pockets just on the perimeter of the fire that could be at risk as the fire progresses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One building, a historical cabin, has been destroyed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Live fuel moistures — or the moisture level of materials that commonly catch fire, like grasses, brush and trees — are “below critical” in Central California, making it extremely easy for fire to catch, Bertelsen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“[If] you were to drop 10 embers out there, nine of them would ignite force fuels and spread,” he told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The dry, hot and windy conditions there are similar to those forecast in the Bay Area this week, increasing fire risk here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to weather service meteorologist Canepa, the marine layer causing San Francisco’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1997911/cool-for-the-summer-bay-area-sweater-weather-could-linger-into-august\">particularly foggy summer\u003c/a> hasn’t usually extended into the interior counties. Since July is the driest month of the year on average, many of these places are nearing their peak fire risk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Combined with a warming trend through the week, fire risk looks to be at its highest on Wednesday and Thursday. In the month ahead, the weather service is predicting that the Bay Area will shift into a stronger high-pressure system, which could lead to a more prolonged period of warm to hot weather.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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