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They need to lead it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s why, for the past decade, she’s helped grow Latinas in Tech from a group of friends meeting for coffee into a full-fledged advocacy organization with 25 chapters in seven countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even as Bay Area tech companies have grown to be some of the biggest corporations in the world, Latinx workers of all genders have largely been left out of the tech workforce. Latinas only represent about 2% of tech workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now advocates like van Nierop, the CEO of Latinas in Tech, are confronting a backlash against diversity, equity and inclusion programs at a time when mass layoffs at tech firms have become commonplace.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A study from the Oakland-based Kapor Foundation, a nonprofit focused on making the tech sector more equitable, reported that while about one in five workers in the U.S. is Latine, only one in 10 workers in tech is Latine. In management, only 5% of executive leadership roles and 3% of tech company board seats are held by Latine professionals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I shared van Nierop’s shock at the lack of Latines making inroads in the tech industry in the Bay Area and in professional fields overall. Like van Nierop, I had the experience of working late in San Francisco’s Financial District. 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Van Nierop agrees that we need more Latines graduating with degrees in science, technology, engineering and math, but said companies need to expand their pipelines as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People tend to hire people they know, she added, because if a hiring manager doesn’t have any Latinas in their network, they’re unlikely to hire them. But even when Latines can get a toehold in an industry, they often face barriers to advancement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That is why van Nierop, 44, has emphasized helping Latinas become “jefas” — female bosses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When you’re a Latina in power of hiring, then somehow more Latinos come because people hire people that they get to know in their networks,” she said. “Companies have to be intentional on bringing people in at the same level of qualifications but from different backgrounds.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Van Nierop was born in the U.S. and raised in San Luis Potosi, Mexico, where her parents are from. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s why, for the past decade, she’s helped grow Latinas in Tech from a group of friends meeting for coffee into a full-fledged advocacy organization with 25 chapters in seven countries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even as Bay Area tech companies have grown to be some of the biggest corporations in the world, Latinx workers of all genders have largely been left out of the tech workforce. Latinas only represent about 2% of tech workers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now advocates like van Nierop, the CEO of Latinas in Tech, are confronting a backlash against diversity, equity and inclusion programs at a time when mass layoffs at tech firms have become commonplace.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A study from the Oakland-based Kapor Foundation, a nonprofit focused on making the tech sector more equitable, reported that while about one in five workers in the U.S. is Latine, only one in 10 workers in tech is Latine. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You may have heard some horror stories about electric vehicle charging — long lines, lengthy waits, broken units. Sometimes even\u003cem> finding \u003c/em>a charging station is a challenge. When your car’s low on charge but no charger is available, it’s stressful. Maybe you’re halfway between San Francisco and Los Angeles and you’re stuck waiting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s one of the big things stopping Bay Curious listener Kelly Lindberg from buying an electric car right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m hoping that by 2030, between having some years to save up and the technology getting better and cheaper, maybe that’s around the time [it] could work for our family,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the meantime, Lindberg has an idea to help alleviate the charging congestion. She’s noticed a lot of empty former gas station sites around her neighborhood in Oakland and wondered, “Would it be a good idea to turn some of these spaces into electric car charging stations?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2020, Gov. Gavin Newsom set a goal for the state to ban the sale of new gas-powered vehicles by the year 2035. So even if you’ve got a gas-powered car, and this isn’t a problem you’re facing currently, it may be soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>How to set up a charging station\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>To find out what goes into installing a new charging station, I met up with Jonah Eidus, who oversees real estate development for electric car charging company EVgo. The company has hundreds of charging stalls across the Bay Area and thousands across the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In general, when we’re installing new chargers, we’re looking to be in high-traffic areas where the chargers will be used for about 15 to 45 minutes,” Eidus said. “And that means we also want to have amenities nearby so people have something to do during those 15 to 45 minutes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since charging your car takes longer than pumping gas, stations are designed with the surroundings in mind. They aim to install stations in the parking lot of a Safeway, for example, or close to a coffee shop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are many other considerations too, Eidus said, including the availability of parking stalls. Is there enough space for many cars to park? The goal, after all, is to build as many charging stalls per site as possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Does the site integrate well into the electrical grid? The product they are ultimately selling is electricity, so they have to make sure that a site \u003cem>has \u003c/em>the electricity to sell at an affordable price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additionally, is the charging station set up near those who need it most, including those who live in apartment complexes and don’t have the option to charge from their own garage? There are also city zoning regulations and safety considerations to take into account.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s not even half of what goes into establishing a charging site. In fact, EVgo has a mapping algorithm that integrates 27 different factors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Suffice to say, it is a fairly sophisticated process that we go through,” Eidus said. “When a site goes live, a lot of thought and a lot of data has gone into the decision to build that site.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Improving reliability and keeping up with demand\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>California — particularly the Bay Area — \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/12/us/bay-area-electric-vehicles.html\">leads the nation\u003c/a> in electric vehicle adoption. To meet that growing demand, California has to build 1 million new chargers by the end of 2030, \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24795161/assembly-bill-2127-second-electric-vehicle-charging-infrastructure-second-assessment-revised-staff-report.pdf#page=52\">according to the state’s own projections (PDF)\u003c/a>. Some experts say \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/environment/climate-change/2024/07/california-electric-car-chargers-unrealistic-goals/\">that’s not feasible\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I would say we’re tight on the number of chargers,” said Carleen Cullen, co-founder of the environmental nonprofit Cool the Earth and a former transportation advisor to Gov. Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not only are they in short supply, the ones we do have are not always reliable, Cullen said. She helped conduct a study a few years ago to test the reliability of charging stations in the Bay Area and found that a quarter of them weren’t functional, meaning the screens were broken, the payment system didn’t work or the equipment was flawed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cullen said while the infrastructure has improved a lot since then, there’s still not enough of it — despite the fact that \u003ca href=\"https://smartasset.com/data-studies/ev-chargers-2023\">California is outpacing other states\u003c/a> in both EV adoption and infrastructure. And in order to reach Newsom’s goal, we need consumers, charging companies, EV manufacturers, local governments and utility companies to work together, Cullen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to move the adoption of EVs forward, we need to move the number of charging ports available as well, and we need to move the grid capacity as well,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11999354\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11999354\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tashinda Richardson of Oakland plugs in her rented electric vehicle at an EVgo Fast Charging station in Oakland on Jan. 29. Richardson said it can be hard to find a charger when she needs one. Sometimes, she said, chargers won’t work or the plug will get stuck in the car. \u003ccite>(Kathryn Styer Martínez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A big hold-up right now, according to Cullen, lies with PG&E.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a huge lag time between when the charging station vendor requests the power and when PG&E actually delivers it,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For a charging station to operate, it needs to be hooked up to the power grid. That’s where PG&E comes in. And they won’t just let you set up a charging station anywhere. They have to be able to deliver enough power to that site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Is the section of the grid you’re trying to connect to also connected to a big manufacturing plant, for example? Are your neighbors using a lot of electricity during certain times of the day? Then the available power is likely spoken for. Does that portion of the grid rely heavily on solar power? Then the chargers may not work when the sun goes down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have over 600,000 EVs in our service territory. And we’ve seen EV adoption grow at about 26% of the compound annual growth rate over the last few years. That’s a significant amount of load that we’re seeing on the system,” said David Almeida, a manager within PG&E’s clean energy transportation group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Almeida said the utility company underestimated electricity demand, and as a result, it doesn’t have the infrastructure to support the rapidly growing EV industry right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But they’re working on it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are building out a forecast that doesn’t look at necessarily just historical load, but it looks at where we anticipate load growth,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The goal is to make electric car charging stations faster to build and more reliable once they’re up and running.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite all the work needed to bolster this transportation system overhaul, Almeida said it’s ultimately worth it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, California’s transportation system is by far the \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/ghg-inventory-data\">largest contributor\u003c/a> to our greenhouse gas emissions. Transitioning away from gas-powered cars is critical to mitigating the impacts of climate change, and EVs are already helping to do that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A recent \u003ca href=\"https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.3c09642\">study\u003c/a> by scientists at UC Berkeley showed EV adoption in the Bay Area has already reduced our carbon emissions by almost 2%.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve been a believer from the very beginning,” Almeida said. “And it’s just very cool to see a lot of this prove out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>I’m Olivia Allen-Price. This is Bay curious. And today we’re going on a little road trip.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of a car driving\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>Here we go. So we are driving around San Francisco in my Volkswagen E-golf, and it’s an electric vehicle. And we’re looking for a place to charge. And I’m here with Dana Cronin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>And how do you normally find a place to charge in the city?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> It’s pretty rare that I have to find a place to charge because I mostly charge at home. But when I do have to find a place, I pull up an app on my phone and …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> Safely, of course, pulled over by the side of the road.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Exactly. Let’s actually pull over real quick up here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(sound of car decelerating)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>Okay, so I pull up this app on my phone and what it does is it loads all sorts of different chargers that are nearby that are owned by all sorts of different companies. The numbers mean how many charging stations are in each of these locations. Of the one that’s nearby, it looks like one is out of service; four are currently being used … but looks like one is available.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> 0.2 miles away. That’s not too bad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Yeah, let’s give it a shot. Okay, so the charger is somewhere in this enormous parking lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> You know that there’s a spot open right now because of your app, right? Or is it possible that it’s there but someone’s using it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> I would … I would say I don’t feel 100% confident based on the app.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> There’s a line of Teslas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>So, let’s go and see if the non-Tesla chargers are near the Tesla ones, too. Oh, and here we are to the right. … This is also Tesla charging. Just kidding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>We drove around the parking lot for a while but then finally found the chargers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> So, it’s full. (laughs)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> There was a little dispute with another customer over who was there first. It was totally us, but we let it go. Eventually, another stall opened up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>Charging port here, plug it in and it looks like this one gives me the option to pay by the EVgo app, or I can pay by credit card, which is actually great. It does not seem … Oh, there we go, there we go. Okay, let’s remove the card … (pause) authorization declined. I will try a different card payment. (pause) Authorized!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> Step one: Complete! (laughing)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>Step 7,962: pay for the charging. (laughing)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Generally, I would say this was not super easy, and yet it’s pretty much totally full.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price\u003c/strong>: Yeah, I mean, it’s not easy. I feel really lucky most of the time. I charge at home because it is, you know, it’s a pain and it’s a little stressful, especially if you are really low on charge. Like I’ve been in situations where I’m really sweating it out because I go to one charging station and like the screen is broken or the Wi-Fi isn’t working, or sometimes they’ll have these in paid parking garages and they don’t tell you that. And it’s like $30 just to get in the garage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> Like it feels like you do have to have an at-home charger right now for this to be convenient and conducive to your lifestyle. Like, I can’t imagine, like fully relying on this, you know. I, for one, will probably just stick with my Subaru for now. My gas-powered Subaru, for now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> On today’s episode of Bay Curious, we dive into the world of electric vehicles. I love driving mine, but as you saw, it’s not perfect. California currently dominates the EV market, and the state has a lofty goal of banning the sale of new gas-powered vehicles by 2035. So if you’re not driving an EV yet, you may be soon. Is your community set up for it? Is the Bay area’s current infrastructure matching up with the demand? We’ll get into all that just after a quick break.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>SPONSOR\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>For this episode, I’m tossing to my co-pilot … reporter Dana Cronin … to explain what’s going on with the Bay Area’s EV infrastructure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> Like a lot of Bay Area residents … maybe you included … I want my next car to be electric. But if my 2012 Subaru Outback died tomorrow … I’m not sure I’d be ready to make the switch. Especially after that drive with Olivia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bay Curious listener Kelly Lindberg … feels the same way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kelly Lindberg:\u003c/strong> You hear those stories in the news sometimes about, like, the drive between, like, Las Vegas and Los Angeles. You know, people going in their Teslas and having a super long line at the charging station.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Kelly works for a climate startup accelerator, and she’s thought, “There’s gotta be a solution to this problem.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One came to her… as she was driving through her neighborhood in Oakland. She’s noticed a lot of abandoned gas stations around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kelly Lindberg:\u003c/strong> Would it be a good idea to maybe turn some of these spaces into electric car charging stations?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>I mean … sounds like a good idea to me. I, too, live in Oakland and have noticed quite a few empty lots. Whether they’re former gas stations, convenience stores, or storefronts … it seems like there’s plenty of empty space for charging stations to set up shop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, to do that, you first need a charging company. So, I met with one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(sounds of loud road noise)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Jonah Eidus is wearing a navy-logoed polo and is parked at an EVgo charging station. He oversees EVgo’s real estate department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>EVgo has hundreds of charging stalls in the Bay Area … the one we’re meeting at is in Oakland’s Fruitvale neighborhood … right off of 580 on Fruitvale Avenue. It’s set up at a Shell gas station.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> So this site is an eight-stall, fast-charging site, capable of delivering up to 350 kW to each car. And it is definitely one of the more popular stations in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>That’s enough to charge most modern EVs in less than 20 minutes. And it is popular! Over the course of our interview … all eight stalls were full almost the whole time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Without wasting any time, I posed Kelly’s question. Could empty lots and gas stations near her house get setups like this one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> In general, when we’re installing new chargers, we’re looking to be in high-traffic areas where the chargers will be used for about 15 to 45 minutes. And that means we also want to have amenities nearby so people have something to do during those 15 to 45 minutes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>It takes longer to charge your car’s battery than it does to pump gas. So this charging station, for example, is right next to a Peet’s Coffee and a Farmer Joe’s grocery store. A perfect place to run some errands while you wait.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As we’re talking, Dave Robinson drives up in his brand new 2023 KIA EV6, backs into a stall, and plugs in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>What do you plan to do while you wait?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dave Robinson:\u003c/strong> Just hang out. You know, if it’s going to be a while, there’s coffee shops and everything else around. So it’s easy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Convenience! It’s a big factor in selecting a charging site, Jonah says. But there are lots of other factors, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus: \u003c/strong>Availability of parking stalls, grid interconnection, forecasted charging demand, electricity rates and importantly, multifamily housing density nearby the charging station.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>OK … let’s take those one at a time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> Availability of parking stalls …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Meaning … is there enough space for cars to park here? The goal is to build as many charging stalls as possible per site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> … grid interconnection …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>This one is super important. Because after all, the product they are ultimately selling … is electricity. And they need to make sure that a specific site HAS the electricity to sell\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> … forecasted charging demand … electricity rates …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>How many customers do they expect, and how much will those customers have to pay to charge? The cost of electricity can \u003cem>literally \u003c/em>vary block to block.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>And … EVGo is a for-profit company after all … so it needs to pencil out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> … and importantly, multifamily housing density nearby the charging station.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Is the charging station set up near those who need it the most? Those who live in apartment complexes, for example, don’t have the option to charge from their own garage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s not even \u003cem>half \u003c/em>the considerations that go into establishing a charging site. There’s also things like a city’s zoning regulations … and safety considerations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, EVgo has a mapping algorithm that integrates 27 different factors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus: \u003c/strong>Suffice to say, it is a fairly sophisticated process that we go through. And when a site goes live, a lot of thought and a lot of data has gone into the decision to build that site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Jonah couldn’t say exactly whether the specific abandoned gas stations in Kelly’s neighborhood could be converted to charging sites … I guess that’s a question for the algorithm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(music)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem> \u003c/em>So that’s how companies choose specific charging sites … and avoid others.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But at the \u003cem>heart \u003c/em>of Kelly’s question … is a bigger question. Clearly, we need MORE charging stations … whether at abandoned gas stations … or near coffee shops and grocery stores. So … why hasn’t the electric vehicle charging infrastructure kept up with demand?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To answer that question, I met up with Carleen Cullen. She’s the co-founder of the environmental nonprofit Cool the Earth and a former transportation advisor to Governor Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(sounds of a busy parking lot)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>We meet up at another charging station … this one in the parking lot of a Safeway in Mill Valley. We’re chatting next to Carleen’s Chevy Bolt … which is parked in a stall, ready to charge … when, all of a sudden, another EV driver pulls up behind us and asks how long we plan to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>I guess that’s part of the challenge is that there’s so few chargers that we have someone waiting on us here waiting for a charge, somewhat impatiently. So we’re going to go ahead and get charging.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carleen Cullen:\u003c/strong> Let’s get started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Carleen swipes her credit card, pulls the charger around to her car, plugs in, and it starts charging.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(sound of the high-pitched hum from the charger)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carleen Cullen: \u003c/strong>So when you hear that great hum, you know that that’s happening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Carleen is somewhat of an electric vehicle evangelist … an E-V-vangelist … if you will. Half the time we spent together I felt like I was in an EV infomercial. But she’s not naive. She knows the current infrastructure is flawed. In fact, she did a study a few years ago where she tested the reliability of charging stations in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carleen Cullen: \u003c/strong>And we found that about a quarter of the stations in the Bay area weren’t functional.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Meaning the screens were broken or the payment system didn’t work or the equipment was flawed. She says the infrastructure has improved a lot since then, but there’s still not enough of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carleen Cullen: \u003c/strong>I would say we’re tight on the number of chargers. Yeah, we’re definitely tight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>And that’s in part because … what we’re talking about here … is a MAJOR overhaul of an entire transportation system. In 2020, Governor Newsom set a goal to ban the sale of new gas-powered vehicles in California by the year 2035. And California is outpacing other states in both EV adoption and infrastructure by a long shot. We have more chargers than any other state. But in order to reach that lofty goal … Carleen says we need three things:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carleen Cullen:\u003c/strong> We need to move the adoption of EVs forward. We need to move the number of charging ports available as well, and we need to move the grid capacity as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>These things all have to happen simultaneously. Consumers, charging companies, EV manufacturers, utility companies, local governments … everyone has to work in concert for this to work. Carleen says, right now, the utility companies aren’t necessarily pulling their weight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carleen Cullen: \u003c/strong>There’s a huge lag time between when the station, the charging station vendor requests the power and when PG&E actually delivers it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>For a charging station to operate, it needs to be hooked up to our power grid. That’s where PG&E comes in. And they won’t just let you set up a charging station ANYWHERE. They have to be able to deliver enough power to that site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Is the section of the grid you’re trying to connect to also connected to a big manufacturing plant … for example? Are your neighbors using a lot of electricity during certain times of the day? Then the available power is likely spoken for. Does that portion of the grid rely heavily on solar power? Then the chargers may not work when the sun goes down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>These are critical considerations, says David Almeida … a manager within PG&E’s clean energy transportation group. And he says Carleen’s critique is fair. He says, yes, the utility is definitely still playing catch-up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Almeida:\u003c/strong> So we have over 600,000 EVs in our service territory. And we’ve seen EV adoption grow at about 26% of the compound annual growth rate over the last few years. That’s a significant amount of load that we’re seeing on the system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>He also says … they didn’t plan for that increased demand for electricity. In fact, they UNDERestimated it … and, as a result, they don’t have the infrastructure to support it right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, he says, they’re working on it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Almeida: \u003c/strong>We are building out a forecast that doesn’t look at necessarily just historical load, but it looks at where we anticipate load growth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>He says their goal is to make electric car charging stations faster to build and more reliable once they’re up and running.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>This all sounds like a lot of work. Overhauling our entire state’s transportation system … building thousands and thousands of new charging stations … getting utility companies on board … I’m exhausted just thinking about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s important to remember WHY we’re doing this. Right now, California’s transportation system is BY FAR the largest contributor to our greenhouse gas emissions. Transitioning away from gas-powered cars is critical to mitigating the impacts of climate change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And Evs are already helping to do that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A recent study by scientists at UC Berkeley showed EV adoption in the Bay Area has already reduced our carbon emissions by almost 2 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now, obviously, to keep up that progress … the system has to work for EVERYONE. And I’m not sure we’re there yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music sneaks in\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> What do you think, Olivia? Any more sympathy for the cause?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> You know, yeah. I didn’t realize there were so many hurdles to getting new charging stations online. I feel really lucky that I am able to charge my car at home and so this isn’t an issue I have to deal with very often. But for folks who can’t charge overnight where they live — that’s a huge hurdle. And I’m sure it’s a non-starter for some people! It’s got to get better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> Yeah … 2035 is not THAT far away … and if we’re gonna reach that goal, we’re going to need more charging stations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m kind of hoping my Subaru lasts just a couple more years …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Dana Cronin — thank you!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>That was KQED’s Dana Cronin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This story would not have been possible without our question-asker, Kelly Lindberg. That’s because you, our dear audience, decide what we cover by submitting questions — and then voting on which ones we should answer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We have a new voting round-up at BayCurious.org with three enticing questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Voice 1:\u003c/strong> Why did Oakland International Airport become San Francisco Bay Oakland International Airport, giving us two very confusingly similar-sounding airports?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Voice 2:\u003c/strong> I remember going to the Berkeley dump, now Cesar Chavez Park, with my dad in the 1970s. It was pretty wild. It’d be really interesting to learn more about its evolution from dump to park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Voice 3:\u003c/strong> I was walking my dog on Thornton Beach on the Daly City/SF border and found a really long tunnel coming out of the hillside around some abandoned piers. Any idea what it is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>Voting is so easy! Just grab your phone, pull up BayCurious.org, scroll to our voting round and click on your favorite question! No registering or emails or phone numbers or anything complicated. We try to make it easy on you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bay Curious is made by Ana De Almeida Amaral, Amanda Font, Olivia Allen-Price, Christopher Beale. Special thanks to Laura Klivans, Jen Chien, Katie Sprenger, Maha Sanad, Holly Kernan and the whole KQED Family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>I’m Olivia Allen-Price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You may have heard some horror stories about electric vehicle charging — long lines, lengthy waits, broken units. Sometimes even\u003cem> finding \u003c/em>a charging station is a challenge. When your car’s low on charge but no charger is available, it’s stressful. Maybe you’re halfway between San Francisco and Los Angeles and you’re stuck waiting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s one of the big things stopping Bay Curious listener Kelly Lindberg from buying an electric car right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m hoping that by 2030, between having some years to save up and the technology getting better and cheaper, maybe that’s around the time [it] could work for our family,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the meantime, Lindberg has an idea to help alleviate the charging congestion. She’s noticed a lot of empty former gas station sites around her neighborhood in Oakland and wondered, “Would it be a good idea to turn some of these spaces into electric car charging stations?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2020, Gov. Gavin Newsom set a goal for the state to ban the sale of new gas-powered vehicles by the year 2035. So even if you’ve got a gas-powered car, and this isn’t a problem you’re facing currently, it may be soon.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>How to set up a charging station\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>To find out what goes into installing a new charging station, I met up with Jonah Eidus, who oversees real estate development for electric car charging company EVgo. The company has hundreds of charging stalls across the Bay Area and thousands across the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In general, when we’re installing new chargers, we’re looking to be in high-traffic areas where the chargers will be used for about 15 to 45 minutes,” Eidus said. “And that means we also want to have amenities nearby so people have something to do during those 15 to 45 minutes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since charging your car takes longer than pumping gas, stations are designed with the surroundings in mind. They aim to install stations in the parking lot of a Safeway, for example, or close to a coffee shop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are many other considerations too, Eidus said, including the availability of parking stalls. Is there enough space for many cars to park? The goal, after all, is to build as many charging stalls per site as possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Does the site integrate well into the electrical grid? The product they are ultimately selling is electricity, so they have to make sure that a site \u003cem>has \u003c/em>the electricity to sell at an affordable price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additionally, is the charging station set up near those who need it most, including those who live in apartment complexes and don’t have the option to charge from their own garage? There are also city zoning regulations and safety considerations to take into account.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s not even half of what goes into establishing a charging site. In fact, EVgo has a mapping algorithm that integrates 27 different factors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Suffice to say, it is a fairly sophisticated process that we go through,” Eidus said. “When a site goes live, a lot of thought and a lot of data has gone into the decision to build that site.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Improving reliability and keeping up with demand\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>California — particularly the Bay Area — \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/12/us/bay-area-electric-vehicles.html\">leads the nation\u003c/a> in electric vehicle adoption. To meet that growing demand, California has to build 1 million new chargers by the end of 2030, \u003ca href=\"https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24795161/assembly-bill-2127-second-electric-vehicle-charging-infrastructure-second-assessment-revised-staff-report.pdf#page=52\">according to the state’s own projections (PDF)\u003c/a>. Some experts say \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/environment/climate-change/2024/07/california-electric-car-chargers-unrealistic-goals/\">that’s not feasible\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I would say we’re tight on the number of chargers,” said Carleen Cullen, co-founder of the environmental nonprofit Cool the Earth and a former transportation advisor to Gov. Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not only are they in short supply, the ones we do have are not always reliable, Cullen said. She helped conduct a study a few years ago to test the reliability of charging stations in the Bay Area and found that a quarter of them weren’t functional, meaning the screens were broken, the payment system didn’t work or the equipment was flawed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cullen said while the infrastructure has improved a lot since then, there’s still not enough of it — despite the fact that \u003ca href=\"https://smartasset.com/data-studies/ev-chargers-2023\">California is outpacing other states\u003c/a> in both EV adoption and infrastructure. And in order to reach Newsom’s goal, we need consumers, charging companies, EV manufacturers, local governments and utility companies to work together, Cullen said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to move the adoption of EVs forward, we need to move the number of charging ports available as well, and we need to move the grid capacity as well,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11999354\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1999px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11999354\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1999\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed.jpg 1999w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240129-EVFILE-KSM-24_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1999px) 100vw, 1999px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tashinda Richardson of Oakland plugs in her rented electric vehicle at an EVgo Fast Charging station in Oakland on Jan. 29. Richardson said it can be hard to find a charger when she needs one. Sometimes, she said, chargers won’t work or the plug will get stuck in the car. \u003ccite>(Kathryn Styer Martínez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A big hold-up right now, according to Cullen, lies with PG&E.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a huge lag time between when the charging station vendor requests the power and when PG&E actually delivers it,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For a charging station to operate, it needs to be hooked up to the power grid. That’s where PG&E comes in. And they won’t just let you set up a charging station anywhere. They have to be able to deliver enough power to that site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Is the section of the grid you’re trying to connect to also connected to a big manufacturing plant, for example? Are your neighbors using a lot of electricity during certain times of the day? Then the available power is likely spoken for. Does that portion of the grid rely heavily on solar power? Then the chargers may not work when the sun goes down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have over 600,000 EVs in our service territory. And we’ve seen EV adoption grow at about 26% of the compound annual growth rate over the last few years. That’s a significant amount of load that we’re seeing on the system,” said David Almeida, a manager within PG&E’s clean energy transportation group.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Almeida said the utility company underestimated electricity demand, and as a result, it doesn’t have the infrastructure to support the rapidly growing EV industry right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But they’re working on it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are building out a forecast that doesn’t look at necessarily just historical load, but it looks at where we anticipate load growth,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The goal is to make electric car charging stations faster to build and more reliable once they’re up and running.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite all the work needed to bolster this transportation system overhaul, Almeida said it’s ultimately worth it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, California’s transportation system is by far the \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/ghg-inventory-data\">largest contributor\u003c/a> to our greenhouse gas emissions. Transitioning away from gas-powered cars is critical to mitigating the impacts of climate change, and EVs are already helping to do that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A recent \u003ca href=\"https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.3c09642\">study\u003c/a> by scientists at UC Berkeley showed EV adoption in the Bay Area has already reduced our carbon emissions by almost 2%.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve been a believer from the very beginning,” Almeida said. “And it’s just very cool to see a lot of this prove out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-content post-body\">\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>I’m Olivia Allen-Price. This is Bay curious. And today we’re going on a little road trip.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of a car driving\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>Here we go. So we are driving around San Francisco in my Volkswagen E-golf, and it’s an electric vehicle. And we’re looking for a place to charge. And I’m here with Dana Cronin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>And how do you normally find a place to charge in the city?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> It’s pretty rare that I have to find a place to charge because I mostly charge at home. But when I do have to find a place, I pull up an app on my phone and …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> Safely, of course, pulled over by the side of the road.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Exactly. Let’s actually pull over real quick up here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(sound of car decelerating)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>Okay, so I pull up this app on my phone and what it does is it loads all sorts of different chargers that are nearby that are owned by all sorts of different companies. The numbers mean how many charging stations are in each of these locations. Of the one that’s nearby, it looks like one is out of service; four are currently being used … but looks like one is available.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> 0.2 miles away. That’s not too bad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Yeah, let’s give it a shot. Okay, so the charger is somewhere in this enormous parking lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> You know that there’s a spot open right now because of your app, right? Or is it possible that it’s there but someone’s using it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> I would … I would say I don’t feel 100% confident based on the app.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> There’s a line of Teslas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>So, let’s go and see if the non-Tesla chargers are near the Tesla ones, too. Oh, and here we are to the right. … This is also Tesla charging. Just kidding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>We drove around the parking lot for a while but then finally found the chargers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> So, it’s full. (laughs)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> There was a little dispute with another customer over who was there first. It was totally us, but we let it go. Eventually, another stall opened up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>Charging port here, plug it in and it looks like this one gives me the option to pay by the EVgo app, or I can pay by credit card, which is actually great. It does not seem … Oh, there we go, there we go. Okay, let’s remove the card … (pause) authorization declined. I will try a different card payment. (pause) Authorized!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> Step one: Complete! (laughing)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>Step 7,962: pay for the charging. (laughing)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Generally, I would say this was not super easy, and yet it’s pretty much totally full.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price\u003c/strong>: Yeah, I mean, it’s not easy. I feel really lucky most of the time. I charge at home because it is, you know, it’s a pain and it’s a little stressful, especially if you are really low on charge. Like I’ve been in situations where I’m really sweating it out because I go to one charging station and like the screen is broken or the Wi-Fi isn’t working, or sometimes they’ll have these in paid parking garages and they don’t tell you that. And it’s like $30 just to get in the garage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> Like it feels like you do have to have an at-home charger right now for this to be convenient and conducive to your lifestyle. Like, I can’t imagine, like fully relying on this, you know. I, for one, will probably just stick with my Subaru for now. My gas-powered Subaru, for now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> On today’s episode of Bay Curious, we dive into the world of electric vehicles. I love driving mine, but as you saw, it’s not perfect. California currently dominates the EV market, and the state has a lofty goal of banning the sale of new gas-powered vehicles by 2035. So if you’re not driving an EV yet, you may be soon. Is your community set up for it? Is the Bay area’s current infrastructure matching up with the demand? We’ll get into all that just after a quick break.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>SPONSOR\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>For this episode, I’m tossing to my co-pilot … reporter Dana Cronin … to explain what’s going on with the Bay Area’s EV infrastructure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin:\u003c/strong> Like a lot of Bay Area residents … maybe you included … I want my next car to be electric. But if my 2012 Subaru Outback died tomorrow … I’m not sure I’d be ready to make the switch. Especially after that drive with Olivia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bay Curious listener Kelly Lindberg … feels the same way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kelly Lindberg:\u003c/strong> You hear those stories in the news sometimes about, like, the drive between, like, Las Vegas and Los Angeles. You know, people going in their Teslas and having a super long line at the charging station.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Kelly works for a climate startup accelerator, and she’s thought, “There’s gotta be a solution to this problem.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One came to her… as she was driving through her neighborhood in Oakland. She’s noticed a lot of abandoned gas stations around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kelly Lindberg:\u003c/strong> Would it be a good idea to maybe turn some of these spaces into electric car charging stations?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>I mean … sounds like a good idea to me. I, too, live in Oakland and have noticed quite a few empty lots. Whether they’re former gas stations, convenience stores, or storefronts … it seems like there’s plenty of empty space for charging stations to set up shop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But, to do that, you first need a charging company. So, I met with one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(sounds of loud road noise)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Jonah Eidus is wearing a navy-logoed polo and is parked at an EVgo charging station. He oversees EVgo’s real estate department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>EVgo has hundreds of charging stalls in the Bay Area … the one we’re meeting at is in Oakland’s Fruitvale neighborhood … right off of 580 on Fruitvale Avenue. It’s set up at a Shell gas station.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> So this site is an eight-stall, fast-charging site, capable of delivering up to 350 kW to each car. And it is definitely one of the more popular stations in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>That’s enough to charge most modern EVs in less than 20 minutes. And it is popular! Over the course of our interview … all eight stalls were full almost the whole time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Without wasting any time, I posed Kelly’s question. Could empty lots and gas stations near her house get setups like this one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> In general, when we’re installing new chargers, we’re looking to be in high-traffic areas where the chargers will be used for about 15 to 45 minutes. And that means we also want to have amenities nearby so people have something to do during those 15 to 45 minutes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>It takes longer to charge your car’s battery than it does to pump gas. So this charging station, for example, is right next to a Peet’s Coffee and a Farmer Joe’s grocery store. A perfect place to run some errands while you wait.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As we’re talking, Dave Robinson drives up in his brand new 2023 KIA EV6, backs into a stall, and plugs in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>What do you plan to do while you wait?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dave Robinson:\u003c/strong> Just hang out. You know, if it’s going to be a while, there’s coffee shops and everything else around. So it’s easy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Convenience! It’s a big factor in selecting a charging site, Jonah says. But there are lots of other factors, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus: \u003c/strong>Availability of parking stalls, grid interconnection, forecasted charging demand, electricity rates and importantly, multifamily housing density nearby the charging station.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>OK … let’s take those one at a time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> Availability of parking stalls …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Meaning … is there enough space for cars to park here? The goal is to build as many charging stalls as possible per site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> … grid interconnection …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>This one is super important. Because after all, the product they are ultimately selling … is electricity. And they need to make sure that a specific site HAS the electricity to sell\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> … forecasted charging demand … electricity rates …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>How many customers do they expect, and how much will those customers have to pay to charge? The cost of electricity can \u003cem>literally \u003c/em>vary block to block.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>And … EVGo is a for-profit company after all … so it needs to pencil out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus:\u003c/strong> … and importantly, multifamily housing density nearby the charging station.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Is the charging station set up near those who need it the most? Those who live in apartment complexes, for example, don’t have the option to charge from their own garage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s not even \u003cem>half \u003c/em>the considerations that go into establishing a charging site. There’s also things like a city’s zoning regulations … and safety considerations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, EVgo has a mapping algorithm that integrates 27 different factors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jonah Eidus: \u003c/strong>Suffice to say, it is a fairly sophisticated process that we go through. And when a site goes live, a lot of thought and a lot of data has gone into the decision to build that site.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Jonah couldn’t say exactly whether the specific abandoned gas stations in Kelly’s neighborhood could be converted to charging sites … I guess that’s a question for the algorithm.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(music)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem> \u003c/em>So that’s how companies choose specific charging sites … and avoid others.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But at the \u003cem>heart \u003c/em>of Kelly’s question … is a bigger question. Clearly, we need MORE charging stations … whether at abandoned gas stations … or near coffee shops and grocery stores. So … why hasn’t the electric vehicle charging infrastructure kept up with demand?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To answer that question, I met up with Carleen Cullen. She’s the co-founder of the environmental nonprofit Cool the Earth and a former transportation advisor to Governor Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(sounds of a busy parking lot)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>We meet up at another charging station … this one in the parking lot of a Safeway in Mill Valley. We’re chatting next to Carleen’s Chevy Bolt … which is parked in a stall, ready to charge … when, all of a sudden, another EV driver pulls up behind us and asks how long we plan to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>I guess that’s part of the challenge is that there’s so few chargers that we have someone waiting on us here waiting for a charge, somewhat impatiently. So we’re going to go ahead and get charging.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carleen Cullen:\u003c/strong> Let’s get started.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Carleen swipes her credit card, pulls the charger around to her car, plugs in, and it starts charging.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(sound of the high-pitched hum from the charger)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carleen Cullen: \u003c/strong>So when you hear that great hum, you know that that’s happening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Carleen is somewhat of an electric vehicle evangelist … an E-V-vangelist … if you will. Half the time we spent together I felt like I was in an EV infomercial. But she’s not naive. She knows the current infrastructure is flawed. In fact, she did a study a few years ago where she tested the reliability of charging stations in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carleen Cullen: \u003c/strong>And we found that about a quarter of the stations in the Bay area weren’t functional.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>Meaning the screens were broken or the payment system didn’t work or the equipment was flawed. She says the infrastructure has improved a lot since then, but there’s still not enough of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carleen Cullen: \u003c/strong>I would say we’re tight on the number of chargers. Yeah, we’re definitely tight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dana Cronin: \u003c/strong>And that’s in part because … what we’re talking about here … is a MAJOR overhaul of an entire transportation system. In 2020, Governor Newsom set a goal to ban the sale of new gas-powered vehicles in California by the year 2035. 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That’s because you, our dear audience, decide what we cover by submitting questions — and then voting on which ones we should answer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We have a new voting round-up at BayCurious.org with three enticing questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Voice 1:\u003c/strong> Why did Oakland International Airport become San Francisco Bay Oakland International Airport, giving us two very confusingly similar-sounding airports?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Voice 2:\u003c/strong> I remember going to the Berkeley dump, now Cesar Chavez Park, with my dad in the 1970s. It was pretty wild. It’d be really interesting to learn more about its evolution from dump to park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Voice 3:\u003c/strong> I was walking my dog on Thornton Beach on the Daly City/SF border and found a really long tunnel coming out of the hillside around some abandoned piers. Any idea what it is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>Voting is so easy! 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Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco), which is headed to the Assembly Appropriations Committee later this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We just need to do the right thing,” said \u003ca href=\"https://a16.asmdc.org/2024-legislation\">Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan\u003c/a> (D-Orinda), who chairs the Assembly’s Privacy and Consumer Protection Committee. She is pushing four AI bills this year, including \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1836\">AB 1836\u003c/a>, which would prohibit using “digital replicas” of a dead person in an expressive audiovisual work or sound recording without prior consent, and \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2930\">AB 2930\u003c/a>, which would prohibit the use of automated decision tools that pose a “reasonable risk” of algorithmic discrimination.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think the lawmakers are there. The public is there. This is polling at astronomical rates. Communities want to be protected from the risks of AI. And so we’re going to do it,” Bauer-Kahan said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A recent poll by the Pew Research Center found\u003ca href=\"https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/28/most-americans-havent-used-chatgpt-few-think-it-will-have-a-major-impact-on-their-job/\"> that 67% of Americans familiar with chatbots like ChatGPT\u003c/a> are more worried that government regulations will not go far enough than that they will go too far.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bauer-Kahan added that California lawmakers are open to industry input on their bills and that Silicon Valley knows \u003cem>something\u003c/em> is likely to hit Gov. Gavin Newsom’s desk before this legislative session is over. It’s just a question of what, exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think they understand that the public and lawmakers are not going to go for another go-round of no regulation,” Bauer-Kahan said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Industry responses to California bills are all over the place\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>California dominates the\u003ca href=\"https://www.forbes.com/lists/ai50/?sh=555db8aa290f\"> Forbes AI 50 list\u003c/a>. San Francisco alone is home to 20 of what Forbes considers the most promising privately held AI companies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the most part, Silicon Valley lobbying groups have not aired their concerns about the California bills outside of Sacramento — with one notable exception: Wiener’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11976097/california-lawmakers-take-on-ai-regulation-with-a-host-of-bills\">SB 1047\u003c/a>, which has inspired\u003ca href=\"https://static.politico.com/95/0a/a317efe44616af436ce6a4f32647/founder-led-statement-on-sb1047-june-20-2024-2.pdf\"> open letters\u003c/a> warning gravely that it “could inadvertently threaten the vibrancy of California’s technology economy.” Regardless, that bill is still in the running.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of the bills enjoy strong or qualified tech industry group support, including \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2355\">AB 2355\u003c/a>, which would require labeling of political ads made with generative AI, and \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2839\">AB 2839\u003c/a>, which would prohibit misleading election season communications.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Big-name venture capitalists fighting AI regulation at the state and national levels have claimed they’re\u003ca href=\"https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/30/little-tech-startup-washington-00160815\"> worried about the little guys\u003c/a> in the AI ecosystem. But AI Tech is not a monolith.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The AI revolution is already underway, and it’s as likely to be happening at your local bike store as it is with the Microsoft products on your desk,” said Morgan Reed, president of the App Association, which represents the companies that make smartphone apps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the absence of federal regulation, Reed said state lawmakers are attempting to flood the field. Something on the order of 500 bills is pending across the country, he estimated, and he said lawmakers of all stripes need to think about the tiny AI tech deployers as well as the big developers like Google, Apple and Meta.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Tiny companies can have millions of records. And in that case, they’re handling millions of Californians’ data. And they need to take that just as seriously as a really large company,” Reed added.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>California is not in the lead vis-a-vis AI legislation\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>While California has historically taken the global lead in some forms of comprehensive regulation, such as with air pollution and privacy, the same can’t be said when it comes to AI regulation. Other states, like Colorado, and regions, like the European Union, have moved ahead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">[aside postID=news_11995878 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/07/008_SanFrancisco_Housing_07292021_qed-1020x680.jpg']\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In light of federal inaction, we have a piecemeal approach because each state is moving legislation along separately,” said Stanford professor Daniel Ho, who focuses on the intersection of law, political science and computer science. Even at the state level in California, he said, the “attempts to plug all sorts of different holes … are not quite the kind of comprehensive approach that you’re seeing in something like the EU AI act.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Colorado, experts say, tried to model its state legislation after the European Union’s AI Act. The state’s new law, which is set to go into effect in 2026, aims to protect the public from bias or discrimination embedded in AI systems and to set guardrails to make sure the technology is used ethically. The law also addresses many of the issues individual bills in California attempt to address one by one.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The philosophical approach underpinning most attempts at regulation\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>“AI is not a thing like a train or even a railway system, right?” said Ryan Calo, a professor at the University of Washington School of Law who is co-director of the UW Tech Policy Lab. “It’s best understood as a set of techniques that are aimed at approximating some aspect of human or animal cognition using machines. So you can’t regulate AI as such.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whether the legislation is comprehensive, like Colorado’s, or piecemeal, like California’s, Calo explained, lawmakers are looking to dial in on how the use of the software impacts consumers and citizens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So there may be certain things like \u003ca href=\"https://www.digitalinformationworld.com/2024/05/researchers-from-google-deepmind-found.html\">emotional manipulation\u003c/a>, or trampling on human rights, that are just not allowed,” Calo said, explaining the kind of harm or impact that lawmakers could explicitly prohibit. A second tier of legislation could focus on closely regulating software uses that have the potential to damage consumers, perhaps reducing their access to employment or healthcare.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finally, Calo said, “There may be a third tier of things like spell check, Spotify playlists that may be subject to very little regulation at all.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The campaign behind Board of Supervisors President Aaron Peskin, who entered the race in April, raised nearly $469,000 by June 30. His campaign has already received $300,000 in matching public financing and anticipates that it will grow to $937,000 after approvals by the San Francisco Ethics Commission, bringing his total to about $1.5 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Peskin decried his opponents’ wealthy backers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We raised more money per day than any of the other candidates and qualified for public financing faster than any of the other candidates,” Peskin said. “We aren’t going to outspend the billionaire and their hand-picked candidates, but we have enough money to be competitive and win.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mayor London Breed raised nearly $304,000 during the first six months of 2024 from more individual donors than any of her opponents. Donors include Donna Brazile, the former Democratic National Committee chairwoman, and fashion designer Tory Burch. The incumbent mayor also received $743,100 in public financing in the period.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Breed took a swing at her competitors when celebrating her fundraising achievements on Thursday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“While my opponents embrace and endorse the GOP’s narrative of our city, I continue to be San Francisco’s biggest champion and defender. I will not stand for attacks on our city and our rights, whether they’re from Mark Farrell, Donald Trump or Project 2025,” Breed said in a statement. “I will earn my right to a second term instead of trying to buy the office like Daniel Lurie. My mom donated $150 to my campaign, while Lurie’s mother donated $1 million to his.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Finally, Supervisor Ahsha Safaí raised around $158,000 in the first half of the year and has qualified for more than $466,000 in public financing since entering the race last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\u003cp>A video that uses an \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-elections-disinformation-chatgpt-bc283e7426402f0b4baa7df280a4c3fd\">artificial intelligence\u003c/a> voice-cloning tool to mimic the voice of \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/harris-campaign-fundraising-200-million-5db5d7c5001c87377e4ba11250fff597\">Vice President Kamala Harris\u003c/a> saying things she did not say is raising concerns about the power of AI to mislead with Election Day about three months away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The video gained attention after \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/hub/elon-musk\">tech billionaire Elon Musk\u003c/a> shared it on his social media platform X on Friday without explicitly noting it was originally released as a parody.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By late Sunday, Musk had clarified the video was intended as satire, pinning the original creator’s post to his profile and using a pun to make the point that parody is not a crime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The video uses many of the same visuals as a real ad that Harris, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/ap-dnc-delegate-survey/\">the likely Democratic presidential nominee\u003c/a>, released launching her campaign. But the fake ad swaps out Harris’ voice-over audio with an AI-generated voice that convincingly impersonates Harris.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I, Kamala Harris, am your Democrat candidate for president because Joe Biden finally exposed his senility at the debate,” the AI voice said in the video. It claims Harris is a “diversity hire” because she is \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-president-democrat-biden-96df4c46fab767269056511037776b15\">a woman and a person of color\u003c/a>, and it said she doesn’t know “the first thing about running the country.” The video retains “Harris for President” branding. It also adds in some authentic past clips of Harris.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mia Ehrenberg, a Harris campaign spokesperson, said in an email to \u003cem>The Associated Press\u003c/em>: “We believe the American people want the real freedom, opportunity and security Vice President Harris is offering; not the fake, manipulated lies of Elon Musk and Donald Trump.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The widely shared video is an example of how lifelike \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/one-tech-tip-spotting-deepfakes-ai-8f7403c7e5a738488d74cf2326382d8c\">AI-generated images, videos or audio clips\u003c/a> have been utilized both to poke fun and to mislead about politics as the United States draws closer to the presidential election. It exposes how, as high-quality AI tools have become far \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/ai-2023-artificial-intelligence-chatgpt-dangers-565ff5b817b5db0d4e74829ae3d68611\">more accessible\u003c/a>, there remains a lack of significant federal action to regulate their use, leaving rules guiding AI in politics largely to states and social media platforms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The video also raises questions about how to best handle content that blurs the lines of what is considered an appropriate use of AI, particularly if it falls into the category of satire.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The original user who posted the video, a YouTuber known as Mr Reagan, disclosed from the beginning both on YouTube and on X that the manipulated video is a parody. Yet Musk’s initial post with the video, which had far wider reach with 130 million views on X, according to the platform, only included the caption “This is amazing” with a laughing emoji.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the weekend, before Musk clarified on his profile that the video was a joke, some participants in X’s “community note” feature suggested labeling his post as manipulated. No such label has been added to it, even as Musk has separately posted about the parody video.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some users online have questioned whether his initial post might violate \u003ca href=\"https://help.x.com/en/rules-and-policies/manipulated-media\">X’s policies\u003c/a>, which say users “may not share synthetic, manipulated, or out-of-context media that may deceive or confuse people and lead to harm.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The policy has an exception for memes and satire as long as they do not cause “significant confusion about the authenticity of the media.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chris Kohls, the man behind the Mr Reagan online persona, pointed an AP reporter to a YouTube video he posted early Monday responding to the ordeal. In the YouTube video, he confirmed he used AI to make the fake ad and argued that it was obviously parody, with or without a label.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Musk endorsed Trump, the Republican former president and current nominee, earlier this month. He didn’t respond to an emailed request for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two experts who specialize in AI-generated media reviewed the fake ad’s audio and confirmed that much of it was generated using AI technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of them, University of California, Berkeley, digital forensics expert Hany Farid, said the video shows the power of generative AI and deepfakes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The AI-generated voice is very good,” he said in an email. “Even though most people won’t believe it is VP Harris’ voice, the video is that much more powerful when the words are in her voice.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said generative AI companies that make voice-cloning tools and other AI tools available to the public should do better to ensure their services are not used in ways that could harm people or democracy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rob Weissman, co-president of the advocacy group Public Citizen, disagreed with Farid, saying he thought many people would be fooled by the video.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m certain that most people looking at it don’t assume it’s a joke,” Weissman said in an interview. “The quality isn’t great, but it’s good enough. And precisely because it feeds into preexisting themes that have circulated around her, most people will believe it to be real.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Weissman, whose organization has advocated for Congress, federal agencies and states to regulate generative AI, said the video is “the kind of thing that we’ve been warning about.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other generative AI deepfakes in the U.S. and elsewhere have tried to influence voters with misinformation, humor or both. In Slovakia in 2023, \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-elections-disinformation-chatgpt-bc283e7426402f0b4baa7df280a4c3fd\">fake audio clips\u003c/a> impersonated a candidate discussing plans to rig the election and raise the price of beer days before the vote. In Louisiana in 2022, a political action committee’s \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-local-races-deepfakes-2024-1d5080a5c916d5ff10eadd1d81f43dfd?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share\">satirical ad\u003c/a> superimposed a Louisiana mayoral candidate’s face onto an actor, portraying him as an underachieving high school student.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Congress has yet to pass legislation on AI in politics, and \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-political-ads-fec-fcc-18080082b2a81b3aad4897b4c4b5c84b\">federal agencies\u003c/a> have only taken limited steps, leaving most existing U.S. regulations to the states. 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"content": "\u003cp>In the spring of 2023, Vice President Kamala Harris gave a speech at a Washington, D.C. event celebrating \u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2023/05/10/remarks-by-vice-president-harris-at-swearing-in-ceremony-of-commissioners-for-the-white-house-initiative-on-advancing-educational-equity-excellence-and-economic-opportunity-for-hispanics/\">efforts to advance opportunities for Hispanic Americans\u003c/a>. While her actual remarks were pretty short, one moment from the speech \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/07/25/g-s1-13327/kamala-harris-coconut-tree-meme-context-unburdened-in-the-context\">has taken over the internet in the past few days\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As she explained the importance of providing opportunities not just to young people but to everyone around them, Harris shared something that her mother used to tell her:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She would say to us, ‘I don’t know what’s wrong with you young people. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/evil_female/status/1755948453228683675\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Harris took a moment to laugh and then went on to explain what her mother meant: “You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This moment soon made its way to X (formerly Twitter) where it circulated for months in different meme pages — \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/TimesNewJohann/status/1790462287083409561\">usually without the original context\u003c/a> — where users resonated with Harris’ humor and the quirkiness of the “coconut tree” expression.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the clip — now a meme — gained wider recognition this week when Harris became the likely Democratic nominee on Monday \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/07/22/g-s1-12804/kamala-harris-delegates-nominee-dnc-vote\">after receiving the support of enough party delegates to secure the nomination\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unsurprisingly, right-leaning pages have used the clip, along with \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1815112666924699853\">other videos that show Harris laughing\u003c/a>, to argue that she shouldn’t be president. But many Democrats \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/07/25/g-s1-13327/kamala-harris-coconut-tree-meme-context-unburdened-in-the-context\">have embraced the coconut tree imagery\u003c/a> and on TikTok and Instagram, young people are making viral videos that \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/C93K1pVBMUh/\">remix the coconut tree clip with songs from Charli XCX’s latest album, \u003cem>brat\u003c/em>\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s already \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-07-24/kamala-harris-memes-coconut-brat-summer\">a plethora of explainers out there\u003c/a> that \u003ca href=\"https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/07/24/entertainment/memes-kamala-harris\">try to explain the meaning behind the different coconut tree memes\u003c/a>, along with \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/kamala-harris-brat-meaning-mean-slang-charli-xcx-what-does-hq-rcna163026\">what links Harris with Charli XCX\u003c/a> in the first place. But in the spirit of the original speech that started it all, we wanted to understand the context of all in which these memes live in and what came before them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I spoke with two other KQED journalists with deep experience in covering both politics and Gen Z culture — politics correspondent \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/mlagos\">Marisa Lagos\u003c/a> and host of The California Report \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/mbolanos\">Madi Bolaños\u003c/a> — to talk about how the state of the 2024 race, Harris’ political trajectory and questions of both gender and race brought us some of these viral Harris memes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa, \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11996837/who-is-kamala-harris-a-look-back-at-kqeds-coverage\">\u003cstrong>you’ve covered Kamala Harris for a long time\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong>. Does this image of Harris laughing at herself, being genuine in these moments, square up with what you’ve seen of her over the years?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lagos:\u003c/strong> Totally. She, in my experience as a reporter, was at her best, off the record when she wasn’t having to think about what she was saying because she is legitimately funny and warm. And I think that’s a hard thing sometimes, especially as a woman of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Let’s put a very fine point on it: The reason that Republicans have used her laughing and her persona to attack her [comes with the] subtext that she’s not serious enough to be a leader. It’s very clearly pointed as a dog whistle at some of her identity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the flip side, that is what makes her a good politician. I have seen her in a room with people, and she’s really good at connecting, it’s retail politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even for people like me who have covered her for two decades, this seems way more authentic than the “serious Kamala Harris buttoned-down” politician trope. And let’s be real, she has to push [that forward] in certain situations. It is a serious job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bolaños:\u003c/strong> Marisa, to your point that Republicans have used her laughter to argue that she’s not serious. That’s what Gen Z loves about her. The word right now for Gen Z is ‘unserious.’ … Gen Z is eating that up for breakfast, lunch and dinner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They really are big fans of how carefree she is. It’s interesting that what they try to use against her is what’s working in her favor right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/Annie_Wu_22/status/1815470696719593909\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Let’s talk about “seriousness” more. Part of Donald Trump’s appeal to his supporters is that he does not behave like other politicians. He can say anything he wants and that makes him a man of the people. On the other hand, female politicians who have sought the presidency, like Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren, worked a lot on presenting themselves as very serious politicians to appeal to voters.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>And now, we’re seeing certain voters respond positively to a female politician who embraces her humor and her more authentic self. Could we be seeing a shift in what’s expected of women in politics?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lagos:\u003c/strong> I hope so. God, I hope so. I do think it’s too early to know because she’d have to win for that shift to really be realized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If she can win, I do think that this opens new doors and avenues for female leaders to be themselves and not have to just fit in a box. What we’ve seen historically, I feel, is women being expected to act like men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s women like Nancy Pelosi that have turned some of that on their head, especially just in the way she presents herself. She’s a very feminine person. And I think that in itself is unique because Kamala does not dress the way that Pelosi does. She’s been a prosecutor. She wore dark suits. That’s been her vibe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She loosened it up on the campaign trail four years ago. She’s got that look with the blazer, jeans and Converse tennis shoes going on, which, I will say, is one of my looks when I’m out reporting. I tell people, “This is my Kamala look,” and they know what I mean.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bolaños:\u003c/strong> Regardless if she wins or not, she is changing the culture of how you can present yourself in these spaces and also engaging a lot of people … who otherwise wouldn’t have cared very much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My cousin who’s 18 and has \u003cem>never \u003c/em>talked to me about politics randomly, no context, sent me \u003ca href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNunEq6o/\">a TikTok, featuring the Charli XCX song ‘Girl, so confusing version with lorde’\u003c/a> and it has different clips of Kamala and Hillary Clinton. And again, we do not talk about anything political, ever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"tiktok-embed\" style=\"max-width: 605px;min-width: 325px\" cite=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@flextillerson/video/7389827831796157739\" data-video-id=\"7389827831796157739\">\n\u003csection>\u003ca title=\"@flextillerson\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@flextillerson?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@flextillerson\u003c/a> i hope they work it out on the remix \u003ca title=\"kamalaharris\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kamalaharris?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#kamalaharris\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"kamala\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kamala?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#kamala\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"brat\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/brat?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#brat\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"bratsummer\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/bratsummer?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#bratsummer\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"coconuttree\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/coconuttree?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#coconuttree\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"girlsoconfusing\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/girlsoconfusing?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#girlsoconfusing\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"lorde\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/lorde?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#lorde\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"hillaryclinton\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/hillaryclinton?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#hillaryclinton\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"♬ original sound - aly\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/music/original-sound-7389827861015202602?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">♬ original sound – aly\u003c/a>\u003c/section>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>[tiktok]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Let’s talk about Charli XCX. There’s so many \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://www.thecut.com/article/kamala-harris-charli-xcx-brat-memes.html\">\u003cstrong>stories out there that try to explain why young people are making these TikToks\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong> remixing Harris clips with songs from \u003cem>brat\u003c/em>. Madi, when journalists try to explain Gen Z humor, what do you think is missing?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bolaños:\u003c/strong> I think that it’s hilarious to see older people try to understand something that is also kind of hard to explain. It’s one of those things that “if you know, you know.” It’s a vibe. You can’t explain a vibe online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You have to be online all the time.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bolaños:\u003c/strong> Exactly. When it’s coming from someone who just exists in that vibe, you’re already there. You don’t have to explain anything. You can just talk about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whereas these older people are like 20, 50 chapters behind — they’re still trying to wrap their minds around what this can be — when the conversation could be so much more forward if everyone was just on the same page.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With that being said, even those conversations are being turned into memes and audio sounds. One conversation with a Fox News reporter, \u003ca href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@megagahubert/video/7394997370238323998\">people are putting that on TikTok\u003c/a> and saying, ‘this is kind of brat.’\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"tiktok-embed\" style=\"max-width: 605px;min-width: 325px\" cite=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@megagahubert/video/7394997370238323998\" data-video-id=\"7394997370238323998\">\n\u003csection>\u003ca title=\"@megagahubert\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@megagahubert?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@megagahubert\u003c/a> the brats are so assembling. Lfg project coconut!!! 💚 \u003ca title=\"brat\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/brat?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#brat\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"kamala\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kamala?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#kamala\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"harris2024\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/harris2024?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#harris2024\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"kamalaharris\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kamalaharris?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#kamalaharris\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"election\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/election?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#election\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"kamalahq\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kamalahq?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#kamalahq\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"♬ brats run the world - megaga\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/music/brats-run-the-world-7394997349795351327?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">♬ brats run the world – megaga\u003c/a>\u003c/section>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>[tiktok]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>This is also humor that takes the same thing and applies it to a different context, over and over again — which is very much a product of internet culture. And young people now have been online since elementary school.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"tiktok-embed\" style=\"max-width: 605px;min-width: 325px\" cite=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@anatomyofafall/video/7390902639271169310\" data-video-id=\"7390902639271169310\">\n\u003csection>\u003ca title=\"@anatomyofafall\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@anatomyofafall?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@anatomyofafall\u003c/a> this is what will flash before your eyes the moment right before you die \u003ca title=\"foryou\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/foryou?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#foryou\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"brat\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/brat?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#brat\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"trending\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/trending?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#trending\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"popculture\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/popculture?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#popculture\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"kamalaharris\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kamalaharris?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#kamalaharris\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"biden\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/biden?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#biden\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"2024election\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/2024election?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#2024election\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"♬ coconut tree core - m🕺🎞️\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/music/coconut-tree-core-7390902669105253150?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">♬ coconut tree core – m🕺🎞️\u003c/a>\u003c/section>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>[tiktok]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Let’s stay on the topic of Charli XCX’s support for Harris. It’s been a while since celebrity endorsements made \u003cem>such \u003c/em>a splash — the only other recent example is \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/taylor-swift-endorses-joe-biden-president-n1242483\">\u003cstrong>Taylor Swift endorsing Joe Biden in 2020\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong>. Celebrity endorsements were such a bigger deal in the 2000s and 2010s as we saw with both Obama campaigns. Marisa, how do celebrity endorsements usually play out for candidates?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lagos:\u003c/strong> I think like anything in politics, the hope is: It can get you attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s not enough to win, right? These things are far more complicated than that. And this isn’t going to be enough for Kamala Harris to win.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think that there’s ways that you can take these pop culture references — endorsements, things like that — and play them out to engage people or to excite people. Maybe you were going to go vote for her anyway, but now you’re going to volunteer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s not ever going to be the silver bullet to winning the presidency. We have to remember that this is still going to be a race decided in a handful of states by a handful of people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>After \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/charli_xcx/status/1815182384066707861\">\u003cstrong>Charli XCX sent out that tweet for Harris\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong>, we also had some folks react to this with some cringe:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/lllliatttt/status/1815455947814584545\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>We’re having fun right now with this politics-pop culture crossover — at the moment, it feels like a slay — but when does a slay become cringe?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bolaños:\u003c/strong> I think that it becomes a cringe when they lean into it too hard. I think Hillary [Clinton] leaned into it way too hard. There’s a way to be a part of the joke without being \u003cem>in \u003c/em>the group chat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kamala doing her thing and then having her campaign take these natural moments and make it into more memes, that’s what’s really working right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If she were to go online and say, “Hey, I’m brat,” that would get a little cringe. I don’t think she can acknowledge it too directly. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Harris took a moment to laugh and then went on to explain what her mother meant: “You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This moment soon made its way to X (formerly Twitter) where it circulated for months in different meme pages — \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/TimesNewJohann/status/1790462287083409561\">usually without the original context\u003c/a> — where users resonated with Harris’ humor and the quirkiness of the “coconut tree” expression.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the clip — now a meme — gained wider recognition this week when Harris became the likely Democratic nominee on Monday \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/07/22/g-s1-12804/kamala-harris-delegates-nominee-dnc-vote\">after receiving the support of enough party delegates to secure the nomination\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unsurprisingly, right-leaning pages have used the clip, along with \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1815112666924699853\">other videos that show Harris laughing\u003c/a>, to argue that she shouldn’t be president. But many Democrats \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2024/07/25/g-s1-13327/kamala-harris-coconut-tree-meme-context-unburdened-in-the-context\">have embraced the coconut tree imagery\u003c/a> and on TikTok and Instagram, young people are making viral videos that \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/C93K1pVBMUh/\">remix the coconut tree clip with songs from Charli XCX’s latest album, \u003cem>brat\u003c/em>\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s already \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-07-24/kamala-harris-memes-coconut-brat-summer\">a plethora of explainers out there\u003c/a> that \u003ca href=\"https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/07/24/entertainment/memes-kamala-harris\">try to explain the meaning behind the different coconut tree memes\u003c/a>, along with \u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/kamala-harris-brat-meaning-mean-slang-charli-xcx-what-does-hq-rcna163026\">what links Harris with Charli XCX\u003c/a> in the first place. But in the spirit of the original speech that started it all, we wanted to understand the context of all in which these memes live in and what came before them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I spoke with two other KQED journalists with deep experience in covering both politics and Gen Z culture — politics correspondent \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/mlagos\">Marisa Lagos\u003c/a> and host of The California Report \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/mbolanos\">Madi Bolaños\u003c/a> — to talk about how the state of the 2024 race, Harris’ political trajectory and questions of both gender and race brought us some of these viral Harris memes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa, \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11996837/who-is-kamala-harris-a-look-back-at-kqeds-coverage\">\u003cstrong>you’ve covered Kamala Harris for a long time\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong>. Does this image of Harris laughing at herself, being genuine in these moments, square up with what you’ve seen of her over the years?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lagos:\u003c/strong> Totally. She, in my experience as a reporter, was at her best, off the record when she wasn’t having to think about what she was saying because she is legitimately funny and warm. And I think that’s a hard thing sometimes, especially as a woman of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Let’s put a very fine point on it: The reason that Republicans have used her laughing and her persona to attack her [comes with the] subtext that she’s not serious enough to be a leader. It’s very clearly pointed as a dog whistle at some of her identity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the flip side, that is what makes her a good politician. I have seen her in a room with people, and she’s really good at connecting, it’s retail politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But even for people like me who have covered her for two decades, this seems way more authentic than the “serious Kamala Harris buttoned-down” politician trope. And let’s be real, she has to push [that forward] in certain situations. It is a serious job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bolaños:\u003c/strong> Marisa, to your point that Republicans have used her laughter to argue that she’s not serious. That’s what Gen Z loves about her. The word right now for Gen Z is ‘unserious.’ … Gen Z is eating that up for breakfast, lunch and dinner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They really are big fans of how carefree she is. It’s interesting that what they try to use against her is what’s working in her favor right now.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Let’s talk about “seriousness” more. Part of Donald Trump’s appeal to his supporters is that he does not behave like other politicians. He can say anything he wants and that makes him a man of the people. On the other hand, female politicians who have sought the presidency, like Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren, worked a lot on presenting themselves as very serious politicians to appeal to voters.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>And now, we’re seeing certain voters respond positively to a female politician who embraces her humor and her more authentic self. Could we be seeing a shift in what’s expected of women in politics?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lagos:\u003c/strong> I hope so. God, I hope so. I do think it’s too early to know because she’d have to win for that shift to really be realized.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If she can win, I do think that this opens new doors and avenues for female leaders to be themselves and not have to just fit in a box. What we’ve seen historically, I feel, is women being expected to act like men.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s women like Nancy Pelosi that have turned some of that on their head, especially just in the way she presents herself. She’s a very feminine person. And I think that in itself is unique because Kamala does not dress the way that Pelosi does. She’s been a prosecutor. She wore dark suits. That’s been her vibe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She loosened it up on the campaign trail four years ago. She’s got that look with the blazer, jeans and Converse tennis shoes going on, which, I will say, is one of my looks when I’m out reporting. I tell people, “This is my Kamala look,” and they know what I mean.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bolaños:\u003c/strong> Regardless if she wins or not, she is changing the culture of how you can present yourself in these spaces and also engaging a lot of people … who otherwise wouldn’t have cared very much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>My cousin who’s 18 and has \u003cem>never \u003c/em>talked to me about politics randomly, no context, sent me \u003ca href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNunEq6o/\">a TikTok, featuring the Charli XCX song ‘Girl, so confusing version with lorde’\u003c/a> and it has different clips of Kamala and Hillary Clinton. And again, we do not talk about anything political, ever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"tiktok-embed\" style=\"max-width: 605px;min-width: 325px\" cite=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@flextillerson/video/7389827831796157739\" data-video-id=\"7389827831796157739\">\n\u003csection>\u003ca title=\"@flextillerson\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@flextillerson?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@flextillerson\u003c/a> i hope they work it out on the remix \u003ca title=\"kamalaharris\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kamalaharris?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#kamalaharris\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"kamala\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kamala?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#kamala\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"brat\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/brat?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#brat\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"bratsummer\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/bratsummer?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#bratsummer\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"coconuttree\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/coconuttree?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#coconuttree\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"girlsoconfusing\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/girlsoconfusing?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#girlsoconfusing\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"lorde\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/lorde?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#lorde\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"hillaryclinton\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/hillaryclinton?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#hillaryclinton\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"♬ original sound - aly\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/music/original-sound-7389827861015202602?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">♬ original sound – aly\u003c/a>\u003c/section>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Let’s talk about Charli XCX. There’s so many \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://www.thecut.com/article/kamala-harris-charli-xcx-brat-memes.html\">\u003cstrong>stories out there that try to explain why young people are making these TikToks\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong> remixing Harris clips with songs from \u003cem>brat\u003c/em>. Madi, when journalists try to explain Gen Z humor, what do you think is missing?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bolaños:\u003c/strong> I think that it’s hilarious to see older people try to understand something that is also kind of hard to explain. It’s one of those things that “if you know, you know.” It’s a vibe. You can’t explain a vibe online.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You have to be online all the time.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Bolaños:\u003c/strong> Exactly. When it’s coming from someone who just exists in that vibe, you’re already there. You don’t have to explain anything. You can just talk about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whereas these older people are like 20, 50 chapters behind — they’re still trying to wrap their minds around what this can be — when the conversation could be so much more forward if everyone was just on the same page.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With that being said, even those conversations are being turned into memes and audio sounds. One conversation with a Fox News reporter, \u003ca href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@megagahubert/video/7394997370238323998\">people are putting that on TikTok\u003c/a> and saying, ‘this is kind of brat.’\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote class=\"tiktok-embed\" style=\"max-width: 605px;min-width: 325px\" cite=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@megagahubert/video/7394997370238323998\" data-video-id=\"7394997370238323998\">\n\u003csection>\u003ca title=\"@megagahubert\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@megagahubert?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@megagahubert\u003c/a> the brats are so assembling. Lfg project coconut!!! 💚 \u003ca title=\"brat\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/brat?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#brat\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"kamala\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kamala?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#kamala\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"harris2024\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/harris2024?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#harris2024\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"kamalaharris\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kamalaharris?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#kamalaharris\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"election\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/election?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#election\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"kamalahq\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kamalahq?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#kamalahq\u003c/a> \u003ca title=\"♬ brats run the world - megaga\" href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/music/brats-run-the-world-7394997349795351327?refer=embed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">♬ brats run the world – megaga\u003c/a>\u003c/section>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Let’s stay on the topic of Charli XCX’s support for Harris. It’s been a while since celebrity endorsements made \u003cem>such \u003c/em>a splash — the only other recent example is \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/taylor-swift-endorses-joe-biden-president-n1242483\">\u003cstrong>Taylor Swift endorsing Joe Biden in 2020\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong>. Celebrity endorsements were such a bigger deal in the 2000s and 2010s as we saw with both Obama campaigns. Marisa, how do celebrity endorsements usually play out for candidates?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Lagos:\u003c/strong> I think like anything in politics, the hope is: It can get you attention.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s not enough to win, right? These things are far more complicated than that. And this isn’t going to be enough for Kamala Harris to win.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think that there’s ways that you can take these pop culture references — endorsements, things like that — and play them out to engage people or to excite people. Maybe you were going to go vote for her anyway, but now you’re going to volunteer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s not ever going to be the silver bullet to winning the presidency. We have to remember that this is still going to be a race decided in a handful of states by a handful of people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>After \u003c/strong>\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/charli_xcx/status/1815182384066707861\">\u003cstrong>Charli XCX sent out that tweet for Harris\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong>, we also had some folks react to this with some cringe:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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