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"content": "\u003cp>Lincoln-Douglas this was not — though either man would likely eagerly embrace even being mentioned in the same sentence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There was a political debate Thursday night in Georgia, but not between two presidential candidates. Instead, it was between one governor and presidential candidate and another governor, who some think might be one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the one side, there was Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is of course running for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, and California Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It sure looked like a presidential debate. There were two politicians at lecterns, a moderator and even a whole set made to look like one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But this was a product of TV, specifically of Fox News and host Sean Hannity. Newsom gained attention some months ago for a peppy interview with Hannity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hannity seemed to enjoy the back and forth, and the duo formed an unlikely \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2023-11-26/fox-news-host-sean-hannity-newsom-desantis-debate\">cable bromance\u003c/a>. Soon after, when DeSantis looked like the principal alternative to former President Trump, Hannity invited DeSantis to take part in a “debate” with Newsom — and he agreed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so this event was birthed. What did we learn?\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 class=\"edTag\">Newsom again stressed he’s not running — at least right now anyway\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The California governor hasn’t been shy about making a case for a left-of-center vision for the country. His pearly whites and Pat Riley hair haven’t seemed to meet a camera they haven’t liked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has led to speculation that Newsom is really running a shadow campaign, waiting in the wings in case President Biden doesn’t actually run for reelection — despite the fact that Biden is already doing exactly that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"California Gov. 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"content": "\u003cp>What’s up with Governor Gavin Newsom debating a presidential candidate? Marisa and Scott break down Newsom’s motivations for going head-to-head with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis tonight. Then, KQED science reporter Danielle Venton joins to dig into the home insurance crisis in California, brought on by a changing climate and the resulting natural disasters.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hey there, everyone, from KQED Public Radio. This is Political Breakdown. I’m Marisa Largo.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’m Scott Shafer. Today on the Breakdown, we dig into the home insurance crisis in California and beyond, brought on by a changing climate and the resulting natural disasters.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">KQED is own Danielle Venton and will be here to discuss her reporting, which is featured on a new season of the podcast Sold Out. But first, Scott, a big night tonight for our own California governor. For some reason, he’s in Georgia debating Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Follow the bouncing ball.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So what are they running for?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, exactly. Well, of course, DeSantis is trying to run for president. He’s have been struggling. Newsom insists he’s not running for president and he’s not.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Insists insists insists insists\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, he has subzero interest in that. But, he of course, has been raising his national profile, international profile, really with a trip to China and Israel. And so, yeah, he’s he’s been egging on, he’s been trolling DeSantis, along with Texas Governor Greg Abbott for months now. And they finally agreed to debate tonight on Fox with Sean Hannity, who apparently is buddies with Gavin Newsom now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bromance, I believe, is the correct \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. Bromance\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bromance, frenemies? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah it’s a lot of testosterone I think in the room. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hey I went back and found the tweet where Newsom originally challenged Santos to this debate. It includes lines like, “clearly you’re struggling, distracted and busy playing politics with people’s lives. I’ll bring my hair gel. You bring your hairspray.” So can we expect to that level of intellectualism do you think at this debate? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I hope not. I mean, there are some very substantive differences between these guys and between California and Florida. You did a lot of reporting, Marisa, on Covid policy and how differently California and Florida dealt with it. Now, there’s also things that Newsom’s going to have to defend, like all the homeless in San, homelessness in California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Although there’s homelessness in Florida, too. Nobody talks about it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, there there is for sure. But like all these things, it’s like they’re each going to come armed with their data. And we know that Governor Newsom loves data. He loves studies and statistics. And you can kind of get lost in that. It’s not necessarily the kind of thing that wins over an audience. And I think ultimately it’s really going to be what impression do people take away from these, you know, this confrontation? I don’t think anybody’s going to remember this, the substance of their the details of what they talked about. But it’s like, you know, DeSantis has not been the most likable on the campaign trail. A lot of people don’t like Gavin Newsom. But nonetheless, you know, he beat back a recall. And, you know, this isn’t really his audience. It’s Fox News. It’s not his base.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But he loves that because he watches Fox News all the time, as we said. I mean, he’s been on with Hannity several times. They like to spar. He showed up at the GOP presidential debate to be in the spin room. I think it’s going to be fascinating to see. Hannity is promised to sort of like not do a lot, just kind of let them go at it. So we’ll see how that works out. That could be bad if they’re just like crosstalk over each other. But yeah, I think to your point, I mean, one of the analysts I spoke with about this is Selena Zito. She writes for The Washington Examiner and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. And she was like, you know, this is a rare debate where they could actually both kind of win in the sense that, like, they’re not talking to the same audiences. So I think as long as it doesn’t feel like a routing on either side, I think they both might sort of be able to sort of claim victory. And, you know, in Newsome’s case, as someone else pointed out to me, he gets to talk to an audience that he doesn’t always and that in itself is a win for him because he is trying to spread the good word of Gavin Newsom far and wide. For whenever he runs.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think he gets points as Pete Buttigieg does when he goes on Fox just for being there, because it is known as a kind of a very hostile to Democrats kind of environment. And so, you know, we’ll see how that goes. And, you know, Marissa, you and I saw him up close debating Brian Dahle in the gubernatorial election last year.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Saw? We moderated it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We moderated it. Yeah, we did. And, you know, we remember, I think, how aggressive Newsom was in that debate\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Better than I expected, honestly.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Better and more aggressive than I thought he would be. I’m using that hand thing that he does and Bill Clinton does. Sorry. But yeah, so I think we’ll expect I would expect to see more of that tonight. And what I hope is that it’s not just a bunch of screaming over each other that people actually get to hear what they’re saying.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, like makes a case. Why is your six week abortion ban better than California’s very, you know, liberal, so to speak, abortion, like, let’s get into it. Why the Don’t Say Gay versus like the way that we’ve handled LGBT rights here? I mean, these are serious issues that impact people’s lives. And, you know, this is an opportunity. We’ll have to see. All right. Before we go to a break, Scott, big news dropped just before the Thanksgiving holiday. The assembly speaker, Robert Rivas, who just took over, is has named a bunch of new committee assignments. This is the game of musical chairs, kingmaker himself. What do we know?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, well, you know, as the expression goes, to the winner go the spoils. And so he’s getting to reward some of his big allies and some of the bigger moves that he made. Assemblymember Cecilia Aguiar-Curry from Davis is going to be replacing Isaac Bryan, who was sort of Rivas’s top lieutenant in that contentious, you know, very long battle, very contentious battle that split the caucus to who would who was going to replace Anthony Rendon as the speaker. Bryan now takes over natural resources. And then Buffy Wicks here in the Bay Area gets a really plum assignment. She’ll be chair of a proposed appropriations. And, you know, both that and the Budget Committee, which is now going to be chaired by Jesse Gabriel, taking over from Phil Ting. Those are the real two, the real juice committees. And then just real quick, another change. You know, public safety, fentanyl has become a big issue and there’s going to be a change in the chair of that public safety committee, Reggie Jones Sawyer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No surprise there. I mean, he is running in L.A. for a local office. He had gotten a lot of flak. I mean, I don’t I think he had told me that he was he knew he would be replaced, essentially. And he and he was happy about it because he’s going to be running for this local office.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Although, he’s being replaced by a guy running for mayor of Sacramento. Kevin McCarty. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right so it’s not like you can’t walk and chew gum. I mean, look, all of these are pretty progressive Democrats. Still. There are going to be some differences. I think there’s some cheering of the NIMBY sort that this idea that the sort of further strengthens, because I, I don’t think you can say that there a bunch of NIMBYs in charge before. To your point, Buffy Wicks, one of Rivas’s sort of top lieutenants in the speaker battle, getting that plum position although you know that also means you’re going to have to be the bad guy when it or bad lady when it comes time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She’s up for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah, I think she is. And I think that it I mean, it’s just I think these are the kinds of things that you’re like, okay, noted. You know, I think Isaac Bryan and him had kind of clashed because he had some, you know, designs on the leadership post as well. Yeah. But a lot of this is going to we’re going to have to wait and see what it actually means, you know?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. And I think the one one thing that is being noticed is that with Isaac Bryan leaving as sort of that inner circle for the speaker, there are now no Black members of the assembly who are really going to be among the top lieutenants for the new speaker. And there’s some consternation about that, although, you know, if you look at all the committee chairs, you know, it is a diverse group of folks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it is interesting, I mean, because we’re also this is the first time in a very long time we don’t have a speaker from either L.A. or kind of Central Bay Area. Yeah. Rivas from Salinas is a much more sort of rural, different, just different vibe. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think it’s yeah, I think those are parts of California that never really feel represented in Sacramento, whether it’s the Central Valley or the Central Coast. So yeah, I think it’ll be very interesting and he seems to be uniting the caucus in a way that it certainly wasn’t, you know, by the end of last summer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ll see.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, you will see.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All right. We’re going to take a short break. When we come back, KQED science reporter Danielle Venton will join us to talk about her deep dive into the troubled home insurance market in California. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Welcome back to Political Breakdown. I’m Marisa Lagos here with Scott Shafer. We are thrilled to have on the show today Danielle Venton. She is a science reporter here at KQED and was part of the team who just put out a new season of the podcast, Sold Out: Rethinking Housing in America. This season is a six part look at the intersection of housing and climate change crises. Danielle, thanks for being here.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thanks so much for having me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All right. Well, we want to get into the politics on what’s happening here, but I thought we’d start with the way you open your episode of the show, which is the story of a Santa Rosa man, Jason Majors. Tell us a little bit about what happened to him and kind of why you used him as a central character in this whole narrative.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I mean, I thought he typified the insurance crisis in sort of an unexpected way. So he until recently lived in northwest Santa Rosa in a very fire prone area, steep canyons, thick forests, lots of lots of overgrown brush, and survived about half a dozen fires in about the last seven years. He survived the Tubbs, the Kincade, the Walbridge, the Hennessy and the Glass fires and his home —\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And his home’s standing? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And his home is still standing. But he’s had his insurance canceled about as many times. When I spoke to him this summer, he still had insurance, but he was trying to sell his home because unfortunately, he’s getting a divorce and that’s part of the deal.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just so we understand, like did he survive all those fires by dumb luck or did he do things to make it more defensible?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He’s worked on his property a lot.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He takes it real seriously.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. Yeah. He spends days clearing brush. He has a, you know, a roof that is ready for fires that has mesh over the vents. I mean, he he does all the things he can to be prepared for fires. But he had a terrible, terribly hard time trying to sell his property. He had to drop the price four times before he found a buyer. And one of the things his agent told him was that prospective buyers liked the house. They liked the area, but they couldn’t get insurance, at least insurance that they were happy with. And so it really it was eroding into his personal wealth and, you know, the money that he’d have to use to start this new phase of life.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So this is, I mean, people I’m not going to lie Danielle, sometimes people get a little bored talking about insurance. Right. So, I mean, can you just kind of explain to us like what is the state of play here in California? When we talk about the insurance market, who are the key players when it comes to regulators, advocates? Like, how does the process work? I mean, obviously, we know as consumers, you buy a house, you got to get an insured. If you have a mortgage, you want to get it insured anyway because you don’t want something to happen. But like, how is what I pay regulated by the state? How does that all play out? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Absolutely. I mean, I think people think that insurance is boring. But I think it’s fascinating because it is our first line of defense against climate change for for most of us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it’s basically betting. I mean, right? It’s gambling.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, totally. And it’s the it’s the thing that guarantees that, you know, if something bad happens to you, it doesn’t ruin your future life. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, at the same time, it’s like one of the few things you buy that you hope you never use.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">True. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and the less often you have to use it, the healthier the whole market is. And people are using insurance too often right now. And that’s the source of the big problem. So, you know, what’s what’s the who are the players here? You have insurance companies who are, you know, placing bets basically with with their consumers about, you know, how risky their property is. You have the insurance commissioner, Ricardo Lara, who regulates the industry in the state. And then you have different consumer advocate groups who are trying to trying to look out for customers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So let’s dig into one of those, and that’s the insurance commissioner. That position was created by the voters in 1988, Proposition 103. And at that time, the big issue was auto insurance. Obviously, a lot has changed since then. So, you know, as we’re talking now about home insurance, but what else is on his plate and how much power does he, Ricardo Lara, have to address this problem?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, Prop 103 in 1988 made that an elected position. It had been appointed by the governor prior to that. So it affected car insurance, italso affected home insurance, business insurance. And he has a lot of power to determine how companies can do business, do business in the state. People have different interpretations of how well he’s using that power, whether whether he is, you know, whether Prop 103 has been, whether the rules have been kind of written to strictly, you know, above and beyond the letter of the law.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Can you tell us, like, what were the basics of 103? Like, what was besides creating this elected, you know, position? Like what what does it say?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I would assume the idea of that was to insulate that person from what, politics? To make them independent, which is kind of ironic because they’re elected now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, and now you could argue that it’s more subjected to populist winds because it is an elected position. So in the late ‘80s, car insurance in California was just increasing hand over fist. I mean, it was it was absurd. And so Prop 103 to start with, told insurance companies that they had to decrease their rates by 20%. But also that they couldn’t predict into the future how bad they thought risk was going to be. They had to use historical data to price risk. And that they couldn’t increase rates to much above about 7% without getting together all these documents, all this data going to the state and saying, hey, we want to raise our rates, you know, more than 7%. This is why you should let us. And the state would then take a look at that and say, yes you can, or no you can’t.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So created similar regulation to what we have in the electricity market, for example. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, right. And then it also created a opportunity for the public to get involved and challenge those rate increases. And if if members of the public wanted to do that, they could apply for the costs of doing that to be to be reimbursed. And some consumer advocates like Consumer Watchdog have made about $10 Million over the last decade not made, but they have been reimbursed millions of dollars for their work in challenging rate increases.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, it’s hard to understand how auto insurance could suddenly be going up, up, up, up. Like people are becoming worse drivers. But in the case of\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean maybe they were.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, maybe they were. But like not to justify those kind of rate increases that trigger this, but with, in this case, climate change and wildfires are, in fact making it more expensive for insurance companies and homeowners to survive. And so they have a better case to make, don’t they, that maybe their rates should be based on something else that’s really reflects the conditions.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because things are changing, right? To your point about projections versus reflections, yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think everyone who’s lived through the last seven years in this state realized that realizes that the risk that we thought existed ten years ago is not the risk that we have today. If you grant that, then I think it’s reasonable to, you know, to accept that maybe we need to pay more for that risk to be insured. Insurance companies want to be able to look into the future. And so they’re called catastrophic models, catastrophe modeling. Which would, which incorporate climate change models and local conditions into kind of predicting how much a place is at risk of fire or floods.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. So I guess, like what do you see as the politics here? Because it strikes me that an insurance commissioner, Ricardo Lara, needs to tackle this, but there’s also not a lot of like people like you don’t want to be the person overseeing huge increases in the market. Like, how do you see this kind of right now? It seems like nobody has really wanted to tackle it head on from the governor on down to the legislature and insurance commissioner. Do you think that’s fair?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think that’s fair. I think tackling it is not going to be popular, and that’s —\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because rates will go up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because rates will go up. Now, let me let me say, you know, the devil’s advocate side of this. People’s rates going up maybe 20, 30% kind of across the state would mean paying a couple hundred dollars more a year for insurance. I don’t want to pay more. Like, I like having my insurance. You know, pretty reasonable. We should say, insurance in California cost quite a bit less than in other states with similar climate liabilities. I don’t want to pay more for insurance, but I also want to be able to sell my house.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right or buy a house. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s not the end of the world necessarily to pay a little bit more for insurance. It’s the end of the world if the insurance market continues to weaken and someday collapses. And the the path that we’re on right now, well I mean we are headed towards that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How much could the governor do with an executive order or Ricardo Lara as insurance commissioner due unilaterally? I mean, to what extent can they address the problem on their own.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Through executive order, I don’t think the governor can do much. In September, he did issue an executive order asking for Ricardo Lara to take quick action on trying to stabilize the market. And two hours later, Ricardo Lara \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Almost as if they orchestrated the whole thing together!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Announced these big sets of changes. And some of these some of the things that he said would be considered are stuff that the insurance industry definitely wants. Like they want to be able to use catastrophic models, not just historical modeling. He said that they’d hire more staff to consider rate increases faster. But the big, you know, a big concession that he got from the insurance industry, which which shouldn’t be overlooked is that the insurance companies guaranteed that they would write, that they would cover 85% of homeowners in wildfire prone areas. These are the areas that insurance companies have been have been leaving kind of they’re sort of cherry picking who they want to insure so that they don’t have too much risk. And and that would be, you know, if 85% of homeowners can get good, fair market coverage in wildfire prone areas, that would take some of the risk off the public, sort of the public option. And, you know, that could be very good for stabilizing the market.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you’re just joining us, you’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio. I’m Marisa Lagos, here with Scott Shafer. We are talking with KQED science reporter Danielle Venton. We’re talking climate change, housing and insurance. All right. So the insurance commissioner is going down this regulatory route, not with a change in the law. Right? They’re trying to sort of restructure within the confines of Prop 103\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Basically rewrite the rules of 103.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The interpretation of 103. Which is controversial. Let’s talk about the pushback they’ve received. I know consumer watchdog you mentioned at the top is one of the biggest interveners. They’re one of the biggest groups in the state. They have reacted pretty angrily, I would say, to some of this. You know, we also saw a lot of pushback when there was an attempt in the legislature this summer to do some of this legislatively. And we’ve seen a bunch of members of Congress come out against it. What are they objecting to?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, the if I just to say it bluntly, I think they want the past to still be the present. You know, they they there is a huge concern about rates going up. But it seems hard to figure out how you really fix this problem without rates going up. You can’t. You can’t wildfire safety your way out of the crisis we’re in right now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So in other words, you’re saying it’s going to take some political courage. We’ve got an insurance commissioner who just got reelected. And I don’t know if there are term limits for insurance commissioner, but, you know, he’s not going to face the voters in any case until 2026. You’d think that would maybe help him get a stronger spine. Newsom can’t run for governor again, but he’s\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And we should say Lara’s been on the show. We’ve asked him about this. He’s gotten a lot of heat since he got elected in 2018 for essentially reneging on a campaign promise. He said he would take no money from insurance companies. Public campaign filings show that he has. He also got some heat for hanging out with insurance lobbyists and things like that. So, I mean, there’s some distrust here, right, with the consumer advocates and other folks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And some justification for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, absolutely. But I have spoken with consumer advocates and in fact, John Garamendi, the congressman who penned the letter that was signed by by many, you know, a large portion of the congressional California congressional delegation.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Former insurance commissioner himself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. And I was and he wrote this letter to Lara that said, you know, we we’re concerned with the steps that you’re taking and think that you should use your powers to to to take a closer look at basically the books of individual insurance companies. And I, I spoke with him yesterday. I really tried to push on, how do you think that more data is going to help him better regulate these companies? Don’t these companies kind of know their own bottom line and they’re deciding to leave? Seven of the top 12 insurance companies have left or are pulling back from the state. And I could not get a clear answer. It was a little bit bewildering. And unfortunately, he got pretty frustrated with me. I don’t understand. They don’t seem to make a concession that that interest the insurance industry regulation structure actually needs to change.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, we’re right in this moment where Newsom, the legislature, is very much in a yimby phase. You know, let’s build more housing. And I’m wondering, how does this problem of people not being able to get insurance in some parts of the state, how does that bump up against those priorities?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, my goodness. This is an enormous problem. You know, developers, people who are going to build homes, they’re one of the people who want to buy insurance. If they can’t get insurance, they’re not going to build those homes. And that really threatens everything the state is trying to do to become more affordable, more equitable. I mean, housing is a problem that affects all other areas of of the state.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What do we know about, you know, to Garamendi’s concerns and those of some of the consumer groups, like what do we know about insurance companies’ bottom lines? Like what do they have to tell us, you know, how much they make or tell Wall Street or whatever year after year?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, we do get to we could do good indications of that. Insurance companies say that the catastrophic fires you fire years of 2017 and 2018 wiped out the previous 20 years of profits. I also spoke with an insurance industry analyst from the R Street Institute, and he says, you know, he his name is his last name is Theodorou. And he, you know, gives congressional testimony all the time and and is, you know, kind of a go to expert. People often ask him, hey, is the insurance industry just super greedy? And he went back and looked over a number of decades and found that while the S&P 500 over the last couple decades has gone up an average of 14% a year, insurance company profits, insurance companies make about 4% a year. You know, so. So they’re not making money hand over fist, like.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They could still be greedy, but that’s, that’s a judgment call.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How much is enough? Yeah. But, you know, other states, of course, face similar climate change problems. Florida hurricanes, tornadoes, floods. You know, why are insurance companies not fleeing those states? Is it that the rate structure is just completely different and more beneficial to them?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, I mean, one thing to say is that people do pay more in other states like Louisiana, Texas, Florida that have big climate risks. Insurance companies are leaving Florida. Florida has enormous problems. They have really \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Them for the debate tonight. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, exactly. You know, they’re their version of sort of the what California has is a fair plan is like the insurer of last resort. Florida has a citizens insurance and it has its really undercapitalized, very shaky, enormous problems. So, you know, overall, there are some unique problems to California. But climate change is really upending the whole insurance industry model as we know it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So we have, on the one hand, the insurance commissioner rewriting these regulations. They will become public. There will be feedback. We will all hear the outcry, whatever they are. On the other hand, as I mentioned, the legislature tried and failed to get something over the finish line in the last few minutes. Like do you expect that to come back legislatively next year? And what what would they be tackling? Because as we know, a ballot measure has got to go back to the voters if you want to change them significantly.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I think what’s on the table right now are just tweaks within the realm of, you know, Prop 103 and the idea of voters approving something that opponents can say, hey, this is going to make your rates skyrocket. I mean, it just seems like a just like\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Far cry? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, we started off this segment talking about Jason Majors, the man you met up in Santa Rosa, having a hard time selling his house because they can’t get insurance. I’m wondering, you know, to what extent, you know, can this be addressed by like communities deciding. Because there’s a line in your podcast about, you know, any home is only as safe as the least safe neighbor. So to what extent like do would it be helpful to have like a policy within a county or a neighborhood? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right something the government can help\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. To enforce and say, hey, you’ve got to make this less fire prone.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It would be enormously helpful. One of the most promising solutions I learned about in reporting from my podcast was spearheaded by the by the climate officer of Sonoma County, and she was trying to hammer out this plan where a neighborhood where people are having a lot of trouble getting insurance would all meet a certain level of fire safety, and in exchange they would basically be guaranteed from insurance companies reliable, affordable insurance if certain standards were maintained. I think that’s a that’s a potentially promising model. It was getting off the ground. And then, you know, Allstate and State Farm all began leaving and it just put the whole thing on ice. There’s other ideas, too, of, you know, looking at kind of landscape level safety with bringing in insurance companies, fire authorities. That really kind of needs to be in addition to some increase of rates. Community level safety really needs to be the way of the future. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Danielle Venton, she contributed to the podcast Sold Out: Rethinking Housing in America. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you so much for coming in.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thanks Danielle.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thank you.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s going to do it for this edition of Political Breakdown. We’re a production of KQED Public Radio.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our engineer today is Christopher Beale. Our producer is Izzy Bloom. I’m Scott Shafer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’m Marisa Lagos. You can also find this podcast wherever you find your podcasts. We’ll see you next time. Hope insurance is sexy now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n",
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For some reason, he’s in Georgia debating Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Follow the bouncing ball.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So what are they running for?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, exactly. Well, of course, DeSantis is trying to run for president. He’s have been struggling. Newsom insists he’s not running for president and he’s not.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Insists insists insists insists\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, he has subzero interest in that. But, he of course, has been raising his national profile, international profile, really with a trip to China and Israel. And so, yeah, he’s he’s been egging on, he’s been trolling DeSantis, along with Texas Governor Greg Abbott for months now. And they finally agreed to debate tonight on Fox with Sean Hannity, who apparently is buddies with Gavin Newsom now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bromance, I believe, is the correct \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. Bromance\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bromance, frenemies? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah it’s a lot of testosterone I think in the room. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hey I went back and found the tweet where Newsom originally challenged Santos to this debate. It includes lines like, “clearly you’re struggling, distracted and busy playing politics with people’s lives. I’ll bring my hair gel. You bring your hairspray.” So can we expect to that level of intellectualism do you think at this debate? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I hope not. I mean, there are some very substantive differences between these guys and between California and Florida. You did a lot of reporting, Marisa, on Covid policy and how differently California and Florida dealt with it. Now, there’s also things that Newsom’s going to have to defend, like all the homeless in San, homelessness in California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Although there’s homelessness in Florida, too. Nobody talks about it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, there there is for sure. But like all these things, it’s like they’re each going to come armed with their data. And we know that Governor Newsom loves data. He loves studies and statistics. And you can kind of get lost in that. It’s not necessarily the kind of thing that wins over an audience. And I think ultimately it’s really going to be what impression do people take away from these, you know, this confrontation? I don’t think anybody’s going to remember this, the substance of their the details of what they talked about. But it’s like, you know, DeSantis has not been the most likable on the campaign trail. A lot of people don’t like Gavin Newsom. But nonetheless, you know, he beat back a recall. And, you know, this isn’t really his audience. It’s Fox News. It’s not his base.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But he loves that because he watches Fox News all the time, as we said. I mean, he’s been on with Hannity several times. They like to spar. He showed up at the GOP presidential debate to be in the spin room. I think it’s going to be fascinating to see. Hannity is promised to sort of like not do a lot, just kind of let them go at it. So we’ll see how that works out. That could be bad if they’re just like crosstalk over each other. But yeah, I think to your point, I mean, one of the analysts I spoke with about this is Selena Zito. She writes for The Washington Examiner and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. And she was like, you know, this is a rare debate where they could actually both kind of win in the sense that, like, they’re not talking to the same audiences. So I think as long as it doesn’t feel like a routing on either side, I think they both might sort of be able to sort of claim victory. And, you know, in Newsome’s case, as someone else pointed out to me, he gets to talk to an audience that he doesn’t always and that in itself is a win for him because he is trying to spread the good word of Gavin Newsom far and wide. For whenever he runs.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think he gets points as Pete Buttigieg does when he goes on Fox just for being there, because it is known as a kind of a very hostile to Democrats kind of environment. And so, you know, we’ll see how that goes. And, you know, Marissa, you and I saw him up close debating Brian Dahle in the gubernatorial election last year.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Saw? We moderated it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We moderated it. Yeah, we did. And, you know, we remember, I think, how aggressive Newsom was in that debate\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Better than I expected, honestly.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Better and more aggressive than I thought he would be. I’m using that hand thing that he does and Bill Clinton does. Sorry. But yeah, so I think we’ll expect I would expect to see more of that tonight. And what I hope is that it’s not just a bunch of screaming over each other that people actually get to hear what they’re saying.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, like makes a case. Why is your six week abortion ban better than California’s very, you know, liberal, so to speak, abortion, like, let’s get into it. Why the Don’t Say Gay versus like the way that we’ve handled LGBT rights here? I mean, these are serious issues that impact people’s lives. And, you know, this is an opportunity. We’ll have to see. All right. Before we go to a break, Scott, big news dropped just before the Thanksgiving holiday. The assembly speaker, Robert Rivas, who just took over, is has named a bunch of new committee assignments. This is the game of musical chairs, kingmaker himself. What do we know?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, well, you know, as the expression goes, to the winner go the spoils. And so he’s getting to reward some of his big allies and some of the bigger moves that he made. Assemblymember Cecilia Aguiar-Curry from Davis is going to be replacing Isaac Bryan, who was sort of Rivas’s top lieutenant in that contentious, you know, very long battle, very contentious battle that split the caucus to who would who was going to replace Anthony Rendon as the speaker. Bryan now takes over natural resources. And then Buffy Wicks here in the Bay Area gets a really plum assignment. She’ll be chair of a proposed appropriations. And, you know, both that and the Budget Committee, which is now going to be chaired by Jesse Gabriel, taking over from Phil Ting. Those are the real two, the real juice committees. And then just real quick, another change. You know, public safety, fentanyl has become a big issue and there’s going to be a change in the chair of that public safety committee, Reggie Jones Sawyer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No surprise there. I mean, he is running in L.A. for a local office. He had gotten a lot of flak. I mean, I don’t I think he had told me that he was he knew he would be replaced, essentially. And he and he was happy about it because he’s going to be running for this local office.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Although, he’s being replaced by a guy running for mayor of Sacramento. Kevin McCarty. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right so it’s not like you can’t walk and chew gum. I mean, look, all of these are pretty progressive Democrats. Still. There are going to be some differences. I think there’s some cheering of the NIMBY sort that this idea that the sort of further strengthens, because I, I don’t think you can say that there a bunch of NIMBYs in charge before. To your point, Buffy Wicks, one of Rivas’s sort of top lieutenants in the speaker battle, getting that plum position although you know that also means you’re going to have to be the bad guy when it or bad lady when it comes time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She’s up for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah, I think she is. And I think that it I mean, it’s just I think these are the kinds of things that you’re like, okay, noted. You know, I think Isaac Bryan and him had kind of clashed because he had some, you know, designs on the leadership post as well. Yeah. But a lot of this is going to we’re going to have to wait and see what it actually means, you know?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. And I think the one one thing that is being noticed is that with Isaac Bryan leaving as sort of that inner circle for the speaker, there are now no Black members of the assembly who are really going to be among the top lieutenants for the new speaker. And there’s some consternation about that, although, you know, if you look at all the committee chairs, you know, it is a diverse group of folks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it is interesting, I mean, because we’re also this is the first time in a very long time we don’t have a speaker from either L.A. or kind of Central Bay Area. Yeah. Rivas from Salinas is a much more sort of rural, different, just different vibe. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think it’s yeah, I think those are parts of California that never really feel represented in Sacramento, whether it’s the Central Valley or the Central Coast. So yeah, I think it’ll be very interesting and he seems to be uniting the caucus in a way that it certainly wasn’t, you know, by the end of last summer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ll see.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, you will see.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All right. We’re going to take a short break. When we come back, KQED science reporter Danielle Venton will join us to talk about her deep dive into the troubled home insurance market in California. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Welcome back to Political Breakdown. I’m Marisa Lagos here with Scott Shafer. We are thrilled to have on the show today Danielle Venton. She is a science reporter here at KQED and was part of the team who just put out a new season of the podcast, Sold Out: Rethinking Housing in America. This season is a six part look at the intersection of housing and climate change crises. Danielle, thanks for being here.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thanks so much for having me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All right. Well, we want to get into the politics on what’s happening here, but I thought we’d start with the way you open your episode of the show, which is the story of a Santa Rosa man, Jason Majors. Tell us a little bit about what happened to him and kind of why you used him as a central character in this whole narrative.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I mean, I thought he typified the insurance crisis in sort of an unexpected way. So he until recently lived in northwest Santa Rosa in a very fire prone area, steep canyons, thick forests, lots of lots of overgrown brush, and survived about half a dozen fires in about the last seven years. He survived the Tubbs, the Kincade, the Walbridge, the Hennessy and the Glass fires and his home —\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And his home’s standing? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And his home is still standing. But he’s had his insurance canceled about as many times. When I spoke to him this summer, he still had insurance, but he was trying to sell his home because unfortunately, he’s getting a divorce and that’s part of the deal.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just so we understand, like did he survive all those fires by dumb luck or did he do things to make it more defensible?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He’s worked on his property a lot.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He takes it real seriously.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. Yeah. He spends days clearing brush. He has a, you know, a roof that is ready for fires that has mesh over the vents. I mean, he he does all the things he can to be prepared for fires. But he had a terrible, terribly hard time trying to sell his property. He had to drop the price four times before he found a buyer. And one of the things his agent told him was that prospective buyers liked the house. They liked the area, but they couldn’t get insurance, at least insurance that they were happy with. And so it really it was eroding into his personal wealth and, you know, the money that he’d have to use to start this new phase of life.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So this is, I mean, people I’m not going to lie Danielle, sometimes people get a little bored talking about insurance. Right. So, I mean, can you just kind of explain to us like what is the state of play here in California? When we talk about the insurance market, who are the key players when it comes to regulators, advocates? Like, how does the process work? I mean, obviously, we know as consumers, you buy a house, you got to get an insured. If you have a mortgage, you want to get it insured anyway because you don’t want something to happen. But like, how is what I pay regulated by the state? How does that all play out? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Absolutely. I mean, I think people think that insurance is boring. But I think it’s fascinating because it is our first line of defense against climate change for for most of us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it’s basically betting. I mean, right? It’s gambling.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, totally. And it’s the it’s the thing that guarantees that, you know, if something bad happens to you, it doesn’t ruin your future life. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, at the same time, it’s like one of the few things you buy that you hope you never use.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">True. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and the less often you have to use it, the healthier the whole market is. And people are using insurance too often right now. And that’s the source of the big problem. So, you know, what’s what’s the who are the players here? You have insurance companies who are, you know, placing bets basically with with their consumers about, you know, how risky their property is. You have the insurance commissioner, Ricardo Lara, who regulates the industry in the state. And then you have different consumer advocate groups who are trying to trying to look out for customers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So let’s dig into one of those, and that’s the insurance commissioner. That position was created by the voters in 1988, Proposition 103. And at that time, the big issue was auto insurance. Obviously, a lot has changed since then. So, you know, as we’re talking now about home insurance, but what else is on his plate and how much power does he, Ricardo Lara, have to address this problem?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, Prop 103 in 1988 made that an elected position. It had been appointed by the governor prior to that. So it affected car insurance, italso affected home insurance, business insurance. And he has a lot of power to determine how companies can do business, do business in the state. People have different interpretations of how well he’s using that power, whether whether he is, you know, whether Prop 103 has been, whether the rules have been kind of written to strictly, you know, above and beyond the letter of the law.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Can you tell us, like, what were the basics of 103? Like, what was besides creating this elected, you know, position? Like what what does it say?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I would assume the idea of that was to insulate that person from what, politics? To make them independent, which is kind of ironic because they’re elected now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, and now you could argue that it’s more subjected to populist winds because it is an elected position. So in the late ‘80s, car insurance in California was just increasing hand over fist. I mean, it was it was absurd. And so Prop 103 to start with, told insurance companies that they had to decrease their rates by 20%. But also that they couldn’t predict into the future how bad they thought risk was going to be. They had to use historical data to price risk. And that they couldn’t increase rates to much above about 7% without getting together all these documents, all this data going to the state and saying, hey, we want to raise our rates, you know, more than 7%. This is why you should let us. And the state would then take a look at that and say, yes you can, or no you can’t.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So created similar regulation to what we have in the electricity market, for example. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, right. And then it also created a opportunity for the public to get involved and challenge those rate increases. And if if members of the public wanted to do that, they could apply for the costs of doing that to be to be reimbursed. And some consumer advocates like Consumer Watchdog have made about $10 Million over the last decade not made, but they have been reimbursed millions of dollars for their work in challenging rate increases.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, it’s hard to understand how auto insurance could suddenly be going up, up, up, up. Like people are becoming worse drivers. But in the case of\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean maybe they were.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, maybe they were. But like not to justify those kind of rate increases that trigger this, but with, in this case, climate change and wildfires are, in fact making it more expensive for insurance companies and homeowners to survive. And so they have a better case to make, don’t they, that maybe their rates should be based on something else that’s really reflects the conditions.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because things are changing, right? To your point about projections versus reflections, yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think everyone who’s lived through the last seven years in this state realized that realizes that the risk that we thought existed ten years ago is not the risk that we have today. If you grant that, then I think it’s reasonable to, you know, to accept that maybe we need to pay more for that risk to be insured. Insurance companies want to be able to look into the future. And so they’re called catastrophic models, catastrophe modeling. Which would, which incorporate climate change models and local conditions into kind of predicting how much a place is at risk of fire or floods.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. So I guess, like what do you see as the politics here? Because it strikes me that an insurance commissioner, Ricardo Lara, needs to tackle this, but there’s also not a lot of like people like you don’t want to be the person overseeing huge increases in the market. Like, how do you see this kind of right now? It seems like nobody has really wanted to tackle it head on from the governor on down to the legislature and insurance commissioner. Do you think that’s fair?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think that’s fair. I think tackling it is not going to be popular, and that’s —\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because rates will go up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because rates will go up. Now, let me let me say, you know, the devil’s advocate side of this. People’s rates going up maybe 20, 30% kind of across the state would mean paying a couple hundred dollars more a year for insurance. I don’t want to pay more. Like, I like having my insurance. You know, pretty reasonable. We should say, insurance in California cost quite a bit less than in other states with similar climate liabilities. I don’t want to pay more for insurance, but I also want to be able to sell my house.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right or buy a house. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s not the end of the world necessarily to pay a little bit more for insurance. It’s the end of the world if the insurance market continues to weaken and someday collapses. And the the path that we’re on right now, well I mean we are headed towards that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How much could the governor do with an executive order or Ricardo Lara as insurance commissioner due unilaterally? I mean, to what extent can they address the problem on their own.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Through executive order, I don’t think the governor can do much. In September, he did issue an executive order asking for Ricardo Lara to take quick action on trying to stabilize the market. And two hours later, Ricardo Lara \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Almost as if they orchestrated the whole thing together!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Announced these big sets of changes. And some of these some of the things that he said would be considered are stuff that the insurance industry definitely wants. Like they want to be able to use catastrophic models, not just historical modeling. He said that they’d hire more staff to consider rate increases faster. But the big, you know, a big concession that he got from the insurance industry, which which shouldn’t be overlooked is that the insurance companies guaranteed that they would write, that they would cover 85% of homeowners in wildfire prone areas. These are the areas that insurance companies have been have been leaving kind of they’re sort of cherry picking who they want to insure so that they don’t have too much risk. And and that would be, you know, if 85% of homeowners can get good, fair market coverage in wildfire prone areas, that would take some of the risk off the public, sort of the public option. And, you know, that could be very good for stabilizing the market.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you’re just joining us, you’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio. I’m Marisa Lagos, here with Scott Shafer. We are talking with KQED science reporter Danielle Venton. We’re talking climate change, housing and insurance. All right. So the insurance commissioner is going down this regulatory route, not with a change in the law. Right? They’re trying to sort of restructure within the confines of Prop 103\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Basically rewrite the rules of 103.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The interpretation of 103. Which is controversial. Let’s talk about the pushback they’ve received. I know consumer watchdog you mentioned at the top is one of the biggest interveners. They’re one of the biggest groups in the state. They have reacted pretty angrily, I would say, to some of this. You know, we also saw a lot of pushback when there was an attempt in the legislature this summer to do some of this legislatively. And we’ve seen a bunch of members of Congress come out against it. What are they objecting to?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, the if I just to say it bluntly, I think they want the past to still be the present. You know, they they there is a huge concern about rates going up. But it seems hard to figure out how you really fix this problem without rates going up. You can’t. You can’t wildfire safety your way out of the crisis we’re in right now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So in other words, you’re saying it’s going to take some political courage. We’ve got an insurance commissioner who just got reelected. And I don’t know if there are term limits for insurance commissioner, but, you know, he’s not going to face the voters in any case until 2026. You’d think that would maybe help him get a stronger spine. Newsom can’t run for governor again, but he’s\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And we should say Lara’s been on the show. We’ve asked him about this. He’s gotten a lot of heat since he got elected in 2018 for essentially reneging on a campaign promise. He said he would take no money from insurance companies. Public campaign filings show that he has. He also got some heat for hanging out with insurance lobbyists and things like that. So, I mean, there’s some distrust here, right, with the consumer advocates and other folks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And some justification for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, absolutely. But I have spoken with consumer advocates and in fact, John Garamendi, the congressman who penned the letter that was signed by by many, you know, a large portion of the congressional California congressional delegation.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Former insurance commissioner himself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. And I was and he wrote this letter to Lara that said, you know, we we’re concerned with the steps that you’re taking and think that you should use your powers to to to take a closer look at basically the books of individual insurance companies. And I, I spoke with him yesterday. I really tried to push on, how do you think that more data is going to help him better regulate these companies? Don’t these companies kind of know their own bottom line and they’re deciding to leave? Seven of the top 12 insurance companies have left or are pulling back from the state. And I could not get a clear answer. It was a little bit bewildering. And unfortunately, he got pretty frustrated with me. I don’t understand. They don’t seem to make a concession that that interest the insurance industry regulation structure actually needs to change.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, we’re right in this moment where Newsom, the legislature, is very much in a yimby phase. You know, let’s build more housing. And I’m wondering, how does this problem of people not being able to get insurance in some parts of the state, how does that bump up against those priorities?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, my goodness. This is an enormous problem. 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Insurance companies say that the catastrophic fires you fire years of 2017 and 2018 wiped out the previous 20 years of profits. I also spoke with an insurance industry analyst from the R Street Institute, and he says, you know, he his name is his last name is Theodorou. And he, you know, gives congressional testimony all the time and and is, you know, kind of a go to expert. People often ask him, hey, is the insurance industry just super greedy? And he went back and looked over a number of decades and found that while the S&P 500 over the last couple decades has gone up an average of 14% a year, insurance company profits, insurance companies make about 4% a year. You know, so. 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They have really \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Them for the debate tonight. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, exactly. You know, they’re their version of sort of the what California has is a fair plan is like the insurer of last resort. Florida has a citizens insurance and it has its really undercapitalized, very shaky, enormous problems. So, you know, overall, there are some unique problems to California. But climate change is really upending the whole insurance industry model as we know it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So we have, on the one hand, the insurance commissioner rewriting these regulations. They will become public. There will be feedback. We will all hear the outcry, whatever they are. On the other hand, as I mentioned, the legislature tried and failed to get something over the finish line in the last few minutes. Like do you expect that to come back legislatively next year? And what what would they be tackling? Because as we know, a ballot measure has got to go back to the voters if you want to change them significantly.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I think what’s on the table right now are just tweaks within the realm of, you know, Prop 103 and the idea of voters approving something that opponents can say, hey, this is going to make your rates skyrocket. I mean, it just seems like a just like\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Far cry? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, we started off this segment talking about Jason Majors, the man you met up in Santa Rosa, having a hard time selling his house because they can’t get insurance. I’m wondering, you know, to what extent, you know, can this be addressed by like communities deciding. Because there’s a line in your podcast about, you know, any home is only as safe as the least safe neighbor. 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One of the most promising solutions I learned about in reporting from my podcast was spearheaded by the by the climate officer of Sonoma County, and she was trying to hammer out this plan where a neighborhood where people are having a lot of trouble getting insurance would all meet a certain level of fire safety, and in exchange they would basically be guaranteed from insurance companies reliable, affordable insurance if certain standards were maintained. I think that’s a that’s a potentially promising model. It was getting off the ground. And then, you know, Allstate and State Farm all began leaving and it just put the whole thing on ice. There’s other ideas, too, of, you know, looking at kind of landscape level safety with bringing in insurance companies, fire authorities. That really kind of needs to be in addition to some increase of rates. Community level safety really needs to be the way of the future. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Danielle Venton, she contributed to the podcast Sold Out: Rethinking Housing in America. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you so much for coming in.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thanks Danielle.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thank you.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s going to do it for this edition of Political Breakdown. We’re a production of KQED Public Radio.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our engineer today is Christopher Beale. Our producer is Izzy Bloom. I’m Scott Shafer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’m Marisa Lagos. You can also find this podcast wherever you find your podcasts. We’ll see you next time. Hope insurance is sexy now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>"
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"content": "\u003cp>California Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom is not currently running for president. But that’s not stopping him from facing off in a debate Thursday evening with a governor who is waging a 2024 presidential campaign: Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s the culmination of a long-standing feud between the two men. With the debate airing in primetime at 9 p.m. EST on Fox News Channel, it will give them both a platform to appear presidential, even though Newsom has sworn, again and again, that he’s simply out there helping Democrats keep the White House for President Biden.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A supporting role that could turn into a leading act\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>But in recent months, Newsom has repeatedly made forays into both national and foreign affairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last month, he traveled to both Israel and China to meet with top leaders. This spring, Newsom took his family on a tour of Southern red states. He’s also run TV ads in Florida and Washington, D.C., attacking Florida’s new abortion law, which would ban abortions after six weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in September, he showed up in the spin room at the GOP presidential debate in Simi Valley, California to spar with Sean Hannity on Hannity’s Fox News show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Salena Zito, national political reporter, Washington Examiner\"]‘Both men are the future of their parties. Both men run prosperous, successful states. … They could both walk out of this and both gain support.’[/pullquote]“He’s become the face of the loyal opposition,” said Democratic political strategist Dane Strother, who works on races across the country. “When he went to the Republican debate, he was, in essence, the Democratic response.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Strother is an outspoken fan of Newsom who predicts that the California governor “will be president. The only question is when.” He said at this point, it’s all an upside for Newsom as he travels around being one of Biden’s top surrogates and positioning himself for an eventual run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s like getting in the right place for a rebound on a basketball court. You’re just waiting for the ball to come. You’re getting in the right place,” Strother said. “You know, does that get under the skin of the Biden people? I don’t think so because Gavin has been so overboard in support of the president.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s enthusiastic support for Biden does seem to know no bounds. Again and again, he demurs when asked about his own White House ambitions, like when he appeared on Chris Cuomo’s News Nation show in September and was pressed on the issue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I have deep respect, reverence for Joe Biden as a person — his character, his decency, and his capacity to do great things,” Newsom said. “That’s why I am not worthy of that conversation. This guy deserves it and we, as members of his party, deserve to have his back.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Newsom could help Biden with progressive voters\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Those close to Newsom say that the governor is in constant contact with Biden’s inner circle and has sought the president’s blessing before undertaking high-profile events, like the China trip. But Newsom’s youth (he’s 56, to Biden’s 81) has raised some questions about whether his visibility could draw a negative contrast with the president.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robin Swanson, a political consultant in California, said while Newsom clearly is taking the steps to prepare for an eventual White House run, she doesn’t think the president’s campaign is worried about Newsom eclipsing Biden.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rather, Swanson thinks the Biden campaign likely sees him as an asset who can speak directly to a certain type of voter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The president has to appeal to a pretty broad audience,” she said. “And at the moment, Governor Newsom brings you … a state of almost 40 million people. And he can talk about really progressive policies that President Biden might not be able to talk about right now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thad Kousser, a political science professor at UC San Diego, agreed, noting that Newsom has made himself a spokesman for progressive values, from abortion access to LGBTQ rights. That’s particularly important, he said, since some data and polls are showing that \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2023/09/14/1199336114/for-young-americans-politics-breaks-the-american-dream-instead-of-building-it\">Biden is weaker with young voters\u003c/a> and voters of color who may be more excited by a more unabashedly liberal message.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is what a proxy does for you, right? A proxy can rally the base and energize your base without worrying about turning off the middle,” Kousser said. “His base is not yet — is not excited and solidly behind him. 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That was a man who waited in the wings for a very long time,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the Republican side, DeSantis is also positioning himself as the standard bearer of conservative values — the mirror image of Newsom on issues like abortion and LGBTQ rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That means at this matchup — unlike most presidential debates — both could come out as winners, said Salena Zito, a national political reporter at the conservative Washington Examiner and columnist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think it’s smart for both Newsom and DeSantis to do this debate. It’s in the spirit of the Lincoln-Douglas debates,” she said, which took place when both men were competing not for the presidency but for the U.S. Senate. “Both men are the future of their parties. 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"content": "\u003cp>California has poured billions of dollars into finding homes for unhoused veterans, but the number of former military service members living on the street has held steady for almost a decade. Today, a third of the nation’s unhoused veterans are in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tori Gibson of San Francisco is one of them. She’s been looking for a stable place to live since she left the Navy seven years ago, and it hasn’t been easy for her. She left the service in part because of health issues that continue to debilitate her. [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Tori Gibson, Navy veteran, San Francisco\"]‘It was just a really bad spiral of just more disability and then less money and no support.’[/pullquote]Now 32 and undergoing a gender transition, she’s struggling to make ends meet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was just a really bad spiral of just more disability and then less money and no support,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s searching for a new start as Gov. Gavin Newsom proposes a significant change in the state’s strategy for ending veteran homelessness. His plan, included in a \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/mental-health/2023/09/gavin-newsom-mental-health-2024-election/\">$6.4 billion mental health bond\u003c/a> he’s sending to voters in the March primary election, would set aside funding specifically for veterans with serious behavioral health conditions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s a shift from California’s last two major efforts to fund housing for veterans, which created units for a general population of former military service members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first effort began in the late 1990s when the state built seven new veterans’ homes over 17 years. Today, those veterans’ homes are underused. They \u003ca href=\"https://www.calvet.ca.gov/Documents/Master%20Plan%202020.pdf\">were built to house about 2,400 people\u003c/a>, but only 1,575 veterans live there. \u003ca href=\"https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/the-state-worker/article242868816.html\">The 300-unit veterans home in Barstow\u003c/a> was so underutilized in 2020 that Newsom moved to close it as he braced for a pandemic recession, although \u003ca href=\"https://abc7.com/save-veterans-home-barstow-veterans-state-cuts-threaten-to-close-shut-down/6249524/\">lawmakers blocked him from shutting the site\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The second push centered on a pair of ballot measures voters approved in \u003ca href=\"https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_41,_Veterans_Housing_and_Homeless_Prevention_Bond_(June_2014)\">2014\u003c/a> and in \u003ca href=\"https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_1,_Housing_Programs_and_Veterans%27_Loans_Bond_(2018)\">2018\u003c/a> that allocated $4.6 billion to build housing specifically for former military service members. The money created the \u003ca href=\"https://www.hcd.ca.gov/grants-and-funding/programs-active/veterans-housing-and-homelessness-prevention\">Veterans Housing and Homelessness Prevention Program\u003c/a>, which has supported the construction of about 3,250 housing units for veterans to date.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Veterans advocates and state officials view the programs — along with federal efforts led by the \u003ca href=\"https://www.hud.gov/program_offices/public_indian_housing/programs/hcv/vash\">Department of Veterans Affairs\u003c/a> — as successful in reducing homelessness among former military service members. In the last 12 years, veteran homelessness in California has decreased by more than 30%.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the trend in California mostly accounts for gains made during the Obama administration, when veteran homelessness peaked nationwide, and the Department of Veterans Affairs moved aggressively to place former troops in housing. Since 2014, the number of homeless veterans in California has mostly plateaued around 10,000 to 12,000 people, according to annual counts released by the Department of Housing and Urban Development.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The number of homeless veterans in California has fallen by more than 4,000 people since data collection began\" aria-label=\"Column Chart\" id=\"datawrapper-chart-Z2Fqo\" src=\"https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/Z2Fqo/4/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"400\" data-external=\"1\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alex Visotzky, senior California policy fellow at the National Alliance to End Homelessness, said the high numbers of veteran homelessness result from the challenges veterans face on returning home in California’s \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/2023/06/california-homeless-growth-report/\">competitive housing market\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When housing markets are unaffordable and incredibly competitive, those with the greatest needs are going to be more likely to fall out,” he said. [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Alex Visotzky, senior California policy fellow, National Alliance to End Homelessness\"]‘When housing markets are unaffordable and incredibly competitive, those with the greatest needs are going to be more likely to fall out.’[/pullquote]Newsom’s new strategy in the mental health bond, advocates say, should help those most in need. The California Department of Veterans Affairs estimates that half of the state’s unhoused veterans suffer from some behavioral health issue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The money in the bond would go to the state’s Department of Housing and Community Development, which would work with CalVet “to focus specifically on housing veterans experiencing behavioral health challenges,” said Assemblymember Jacqui Irwin, the Thousand Oaks Democrat who wrote the bill that ultimately put the bond on the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Studies have shown veterans are \u003ca href=\"https://www.research.va.gov/topics/homelessness.cfm\">overrepresented in the nation’s homeless population\u003c/a>. They may experience personal challenges, such as post-traumatic stress disorders or other mental health issues, as well as disabilities related to their military service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Transitioning from that very specific culture and society to civilian life is a lifelong process,” said Amy Fairweather, director of policy at the veterans advocacy group Swords to Plowshares. “If you do have any physical or mental disabilities, dealing with those and trying to re-enter civilian life can be very difficult.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>California’s veterans’ homes\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>California’s long history of providing housing to former military service members dates to 1884 when it opened an estate in \u003ca href=\"https://www.calvet.ca.gov/VetHomes/Pages/Yountville.aspx\">Napa County as the state’s first veterans home\u003c/a>. That site is still in operation, housing around 600 veterans on a picturesque property in wine country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Altogether, the state now has eight veterans homes. The two largest homes are in fairly remote communities — one is in Napa County’s Yountville, and the second is in Barstow in the Mojave Deserts. Moving to them can mean living far from a veteran’s family. That geography somewhat limits interest in the homes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The homes account for the lion’s share of CalVet’s $650 million annual budget. Some advocates have called on the state to put money into programs that would benefit people who don’t necessarily want to live in a veterans’ home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"California's veterans homes\" aria-label=\"Locator maps\" id=\"datawrapper-chart-wYJ4R\" src=\"https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/wYJ4R/1/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"width: 0; min-width: 100% !important; border: none;\" height=\"599\" data-external=\"1\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Map: Liliana MichelenaSource: \u003ca href=\"https://www.calvet.ca.gov/calvet-programs/veteran-homes\">California Department of Veteran Affairs\u003c/a> Created with \u003ca href=\"https://www.datawrapper.de/_/wYJ4R/\">Datawrapper\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The state should keep its promises to the current home residents, but as things change, the program needs to be less structured on just providing room and board for a minimal number of people and more structured on providing skilled nursing facility care for those who need it,” said Ethan Rarick, executive director at Little Hoover Commission, which published \u003ca href=\"https://lhc.ca.gov/sites/lhc.ca.gov/files/Reports/237/Report237.pdf\">a report on the veterans’ homes in 2017\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside of the veterans homes, California approved a series of bonds meant to help military service members find housing beginning in 2008. The Veterans Bond Act, passed that year, provided $900 million to veterans through the CalVet Home Loans Program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2014, California passed an initiative creating the Veterans Housing and Homelessness Program, which put $600 million toward building multi-family homes for veterans. A second ballot initiative in 2018 gave another $4 billion to the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The federal Department of Veterans Affairs, meanwhile, has kept up steady funding for housing vouchers that can provide a place to live for former troops. The Veterans Affairs Supportive Housing program, \u003ca href=\"https://www.va.gov/homeless/hud-vash.asp\">commonly known as HUD-VASH\u003c/a>, was a centerpiece of the Bush and Obama administration’s efforts to curb veterans’ homelessness. It provides rental assistance to over 100,000 veterans nationally.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A steep drop in veteran homelessness\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The number of \u003ca href=\"https://news.va.gov/press-room/ranks-of-homeless-veterans-drop-18-percent/\">unhoused veterans in the U.S. peaked during the Great Recession\u003c/a> when the VA in 2007 reported some 154,000 former troops were homeless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At that time, Fairweather of Swords to Plowshares said many of those deployed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were starting to come back home “to a society that wasn’t prepared for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On top of that, they and older veterans struggled in the economic downturn, which led to more unemployment and homelessness. [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Amy Fairweather, director of policy, Swords to Plowshares, a veterans advocacy group\"]‘It all came together in a way that was really disadvantageous to the veterans.’[/pullquote]“It all came together in a way that was really disadvantageous to the veterans,” Fairweather said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year, the VA estimated about \u003ca href=\"https://www.va.gov/homeless/pit_count.asp\">33,000 veterans were homeless\u003c/a> nationwide. According to the 2021 annual homelessness assessment report by the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development, more than half are over age 55. The data also shows that Black veterans are more likely to be homeless than veterans belonging to other races.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Advocates say veterans can be reluctant to ask for help.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When veterans ultimately fall down that hole into homelessness, what is happening along with that is that they’re losing connection with friends and family because they’re ashamed that their life is falling apart and it’s hard for them to ask for help,” said Stephen Peck, \u003ca href=\"https://usvets.org/\">president of the veterans support organization U.S. Vets\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11966540\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11966540\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/CM02.jpg\" alt=\"A person stands in front of an apartment building. They wear a face mask and have glasses.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/CM02.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/CM02-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/CM02-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/CM02-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/CM02-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/CM02-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tory Gibson, a veteran who has experienced homelessness, in San Francisco on Oct. 31, 2023. \u003ccite>( Felix Uribe/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>San Francisco native and Army veteran Latoya White has struggled to stay housed in the dozen years since she left the service. She has found it difficult to afford rent even though she was able to keep decent jobs at a grocery store, the San Francisco airport and now as a city bus driver.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She was unfamiliar with the resources the VA offered to veterans, like housing vouchers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve always had benefits through my job. I don’t think that then the VA had as many resources as they have now. I did go to the VA and they’re so limited on what they could help me with. So, you know, I just went and got a job and I just was really self-sufficient,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After sleeping in her car and couch surfing for several years, White reached out for help from the advocacy group Swords to Plowshares. That led her to transitional housing, and then to an apartment in San Francisco this June through the HUD-VASH program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of us didn’t even know anything about the HUD-VASH program,” White, 34, said. “A lot of veterans don’t even know that there is assistance out there for them.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What does Newsom want to do?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Putting the money into the mental health bond comes with a tradeoff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In advancing Newsom’s mental health plan, lawmakers amended an early version of Assemblymember Irwin’s veterans’ housing bill that would have issued more bonds for\u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billVersionsCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB531&cversion=20230AB53199INT\"> the existing veterans’ housing program\u003c/a>. Without new funding, the program that supports the construction of multi-unit veterans’ housing is expected to run out of money in 2024.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still,\u003ca href=\"https://treatmentnottents.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjw15eqBhBZEiwAbDomEmjiLODon4xwymj3drkdEFkEUL9z2Ico7Vj0NhjH04C0RWZuaj8v4RoCphcQAvD_BwE\"> representatives for Newsom’s ballot measure\u003c/a> in a written statement said the bond would create more capacity to help former troops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Proposition 1 adds new money for California’s most vulnerable veterans without any redirection or reprioritization from the current program. Without Proposition 1, there would be zero funding for homeless veteran housing moving forward, which is why the measure is so critically needed,” the statement read.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Altogether, the ballot measure going to voters includes $6.4 billion to fund projects for behavioral health issues and those at risk of homelessness. It also includes a proposal to adjust how the state spends money it collects for mental health services from a tax on personal income over $1 million, aiming to direct more of the funds to housing. [aside label='More Stories on the Unhoused Community' tag='homeless']The $1 billion for veterans housing will be distributed through loans and grants by the Department of Housing and Community Development.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Representatives from veterans’ groups say the program’s success could hinge on getting the word out and providing services that provide a path out of homelessness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At U.S. Vets, Peck said the nonprofit strives to create a community where veterans help veterans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Building that community is really important,” he said. “A federal veteran who’s been through the process already is probably more effective than we are as social workers.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gibson, who currently lives in transitional housing provided by Swords to Plowshares, has started to find that community through the nonprofit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I talked to them about how I’m struggling with some issues and they are pretty open and supportive about it,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gibson hopes that federal and state services fund more community-oriented programs like hers, so more veterans can feel at home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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They may experience personal challenges, such as post-traumatic stress disorders or other mental health issues, as well as disabilities related to their military service.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Transitioning from that very specific culture and society to civilian life is a lifelong process,” said Amy Fairweather, director of policy at the veterans advocacy group Swords to Plowshares. “If you do have any physical or mental disabilities, dealing with those and trying to re-enter civilian life can be very difficult.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>California’s veterans’ homes\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>California’s long history of providing housing to former military service members dates to 1884 when it opened an estate in \u003ca href=\"https://www.calvet.ca.gov/VetHomes/Pages/Yountville.aspx\">Napa County as the state’s first veterans home\u003c/a>. That site is still in operation, housing around 600 veterans on a picturesque property in wine country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Altogether, the state now has eight veterans homes. The two largest homes are in fairly remote communities — one is in Napa County’s Yountville, and the second is in Barstow in the Mojave Deserts. Moving to them can mean living far from a veteran’s family. That geography somewhat limits interest in the homes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The homes account for the lion’s share of CalVet’s $650 million annual budget. Some advocates have called on the state to put money into programs that would benefit people who don’t necessarily want to live in a veterans’ home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"California's veterans homes\" aria-label=\"Locator maps\" id=\"datawrapper-chart-wYJ4R\" src=\"https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/wYJ4R/1/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"width: 0; min-width: 100% !important; border: none;\" height=\"599\" data-external=\"1\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Map: Liliana MichelenaSource: \u003ca href=\"https://www.calvet.ca.gov/calvet-programs/veteran-homes\">California Department of Veteran Affairs\u003c/a> Created with \u003ca href=\"https://www.datawrapper.de/_/wYJ4R/\">Datawrapper\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The state should keep its promises to the current home residents, but as things change, the program needs to be less structured on just providing room and board for a minimal number of people and more structured on providing skilled nursing facility care for those who need it,” said Ethan Rarick, executive director at Little Hoover Commission, which published \u003ca href=\"https://lhc.ca.gov/sites/lhc.ca.gov/files/Reports/237/Report237.pdf\">a report on the veterans’ homes in 2017\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Outside of the veterans homes, California approved a series of bonds meant to help military service members find housing beginning in 2008. 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She has found it difficult to afford rent even though she was able to keep decent jobs at a grocery store, the San Francisco airport and now as a city bus driver.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She was unfamiliar with the resources the VA offered to veterans, like housing vouchers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve always had benefits through my job. I don’t think that then the VA had as many resources as they have now. I did go to the VA and they’re so limited on what they could help me with. So, you know, I just went and got a job and I just was really self-sufficient,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After sleeping in her car and couch surfing for several years, White reached out for help from the advocacy group Swords to Plowshares. 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Gavin Newsom’s trip to China, with the stated goal of working together to fight climate change, resulted in a surprise meeting with leader Xi Jinping and was filled with warm words and friendliness not seen in years in the China-U.S. relationship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The trip was seen as one of the steps in paving the way for \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/us-china-wangyi-biden-blinken-fbaef1a1afb599807a8fe47f3600a384\">U.S. President Joe Biden and Xi to meet\u003c/a> in San Francisco in November during the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, but it also highlighted the existing relationship that China has with California, showing that even when tensions are high between the two countries, collaboration is still possible on some levels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The reception from China “sends a very clear signal that working with California is desired and, at minimum, politically safe and encouraged,” said Alex Wang, a professor of law at UCLA who focuses on the environment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>U.S.-China relations have deteriorated significantly since 2018 over issues as wide-ranging as trade, the origin of COVID-19 and the national security crackdown in Hong Kong. That is true both for the two countries at the national level, and for state-level engagement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>States’ involvement with China has fallen off rapidly in the past five years, as the bilateral relationship deteriorated under the Trump administration and further soured with the pandemic, according to research from Kyle Jaros, a professor of global affairs at University of Notre Dame.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yet, that engagement is what China wants, he said, as it views U.S. states as pragmatic partners in business without having to wade into politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California has a steady and long working relationship with China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican governor, started the formal relationship with China over climate cooperation a decade ago, Jaros said. His successor, the Democrat Jerry Brown, continued the relationship even as the U.S. started turning away from China during the Trump administration. At one point, the California government even had a staffer based in China.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state is also home to the biggest population of Chinese-Americans nationally, sharing historical and cultural ties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a long-standing, deep relationship where many people have met,” said Wang, who is also the co-director at UCLA’s Emmett Institute on Climate Change and the Environment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11965883\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1024px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11965883\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022.jpg\" alt=\"A meeting room with two delegations on either side of a long table.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"641\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022.jpg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022-800x501.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022-1020x638.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/GettyImages-1745437022-160x100.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wang Yi, a member of the Political Bureau of the Communist Party of China Central Committee and director of the Office of the Central Commission for Foreign Affairs, meets with Gov. Gavin Newsom in Beijing, capital of China, Oct. 25, 2023. \u003ccite>(Pang Xinglei/Xinhua via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Much of the cooperation on climate is on technical information-sharing and showing the other side how they did things, said Wang, who has done some of the collaborative work himself. The information shared is often not high-level, but is about the thousands of smaller decisions, “such as how do you finance electric buses, who pays for it, how do you set up the charging infrastructure?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California could learn more about offshore wind technologies from China, which is a global leader in using the tech, Wang said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Politically, the trip allowed Newsom, who appears to be positioning himself for a future presidential run, to polish his diplomatic credentials by engaging with Chinese leaders on \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/california-governor-gavin-newsom-climate-bills-global-warming-2c5adbb29e67b753e396169195430ffb\">a signature policy issue, climate change.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s administration is pushing to expand solar power and other clean energy as the state aims to cut emissions by 40% below 1990 levels by 2030. State regulators also have banned the sale of most new gas-powered cars in California by 2035.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Alfred Wu, professor of Chinese politics, National University of Singapore\"]‘China’s economic downturn is also a factor (in) why Xi Jinping is now engaging much more with outside stakeholders.’[/pullquote]Newsom has repeatedly said he’s not interested in the presidency, but he is widely viewed as a likely future Democratic contender.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For the Chinese side, the meeting with Newsom could lead to economic opportunities. Experts say one reason Xi may have chosen to meet with Newsom is the economic headwinds that China is facing, and California presents a potential source of foreign investment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“China’s economic downturn is also a factor (in) why Xi Jinping is now engaging much more with outside stakeholders,” said Alfred Wu, a professor who studies Chinese politics at the National University of Singapore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Youth unemployment is \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/china-economy-reserve-banks-stimulus-c50a9f1640e6e311cc6d4ef82c5720b9\">at a high of about 20% this year, and the real-estate sector\u003c/a> has been weak in recent years as developers are saddled with heavy debts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Beijing’s engagement with state-level governments have always been about pragmatic things like doing business, Jaros added. Newsom’s “red-carpet” treatment “shows how Beijing wants to stabilize the sub-national plank … finding partners who are intent on working with China economically and scientifically.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back home, the trip has been attacked on a variety of fronts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom has faced some criticism for press access, as the Chinese government decided to shut American reporters out of Newsom’s meeting with Xi.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, the California family of a Christian pastor who has been detained in China since 2006 said Newsom should take any possible opportunity to argue for his release.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s office said David Lin’s detention came up during a series of meetings in Beijing, as did human rights violations and anti-democratic efforts in Hong Kong, Taiwan and elsewhere. His office didn’t specify which Chinese officials Newsom spoke to about those issues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>AP writers Kathleen Ronayne in Sacramento, California, and Christopher Megerian in Washington, D.C. contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>Kids across California are getting a lot more time to play outside. Gov. Gavin Newsom signed \u003ca href=\"https://sd29.senate.ca.gov/news/press-release/new-legislation-would-guarantee-daily-recess-all-california-students-k-8\">Senate Bill 291\u003c/a> into law last week, making a half-hour of recess mandatory for all elementary school students from kindergarten through eighth grade in the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new law will also prohibit educators from withholding recess as a form of punishment. Laura Medina Quintanar, executive director of the nonprofit \u003ca href=\"https://www.playworks.org/northern-california/\">Playworks, Northern California\u003c/a>, which encourages kids to stay active while building valuable social and emotional skills through play, sat down with KQED’s Brian Watt to discuss the impacts quality outdoor recess can have on growing minds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She also discussed what parents and educators can expect once the law goes into effect next school year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This conversation has been edited for brevity and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Brian Watt: This law guarantees kids half an hour of playtime outside. Why does that matter?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11965301\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11965301\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks-800x1100.jpg\" alt=\"A smiling woman with long brown hair and a hot pink sweatshirt is seen standing on a playground on a sunny afternoon.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1100\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks-800x1100.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks-1020x1402.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks-160x220.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks-1117x1536.jpg 1117w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks.jpg 1455w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Laura Medina Quintanar is the executive director at the nonprofit Playworks, Northern California. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Playworks Northern California)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Laura Medina Quintanar: First and foremost, this legislation puts a very needed spotlight on the importance of recess time. A lot of times, we think of recess almost as a throwaway in between that really valuable academic time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But we learned, especially during the pandemic, that recess, and the way that it complements the school day, is incredibly valuable for all kinds of cognitive, social, emotional, and, of course, physical activity opportunities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Do you believe that outside playtime is equally important as the classroom learning the children are gaining?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oh yes, absolutely. Playworks has over 25 years of experience working directly with schools, with programs helping them build a sustainable capacity for safe and healthy play. What we’ve seen time and time again, is that when there are structures for high-quality recess in place, there are positive benefits that spill over from the recess time into the classroom. So we’re talking about higher retention rates, teachers having easier transitions, greater cooperation and greater collaboration among peers. So you can imagine how that contributes to a positive school climate and, ultimately, to positive life outcomes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>You mentioned the pandemic earlier — did the social isolation resulting from distance learning significantly contribute to this change?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One-hundred percent. Students were home for months, and months, and months; a year, even beyond. They didn’t get to learn to be among their peers. Meaning, they didn’t get to play. They didn’t get to practice and learn conflict-resolution strategies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11965300\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11965300 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/kidsatplay03.jpg\" alt=\"Children are playing rock, paper, scissors at recess on the schoolgrounds.\" width=\"800\" height=\"534\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/kidsatplay03.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/kidsatplay03-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gov. Gavin Newsom signed Senate Bill 291 into law last week, making a half-hour of recess mandatory for all elementary school students from kindergarten through eighth grade in the state. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Playworks Northern California)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>That makes it really hard to all of a sudden be expected to go back into the classroom. In addition to isolation, the trauma that was brought on by the pandemic, that was impacted by the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s a lot to be expected to suddenly perform in this academic setting. Recess is more important than ever to help continue to ease that transition and fill all those gaps that became even larger during the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Is it true that under SB 291, schools will no longer be allowed to deny recess as a form of punishment?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s very good news. We love to hear that. Any time that a student is denied the opportunity to participate in recess, they miss out on all that good stuff: All those social-emotional skill-building opportunities, the physical, the relational.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I would also highlight that, disproportionately, it’s students who come from underrepresented communities and low-income backgrounds who most often are held back and get their resources taken away from them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>From the lens of equity, it’s also very promising and great news to hear that schools will no longer be able to take away recess as a form of punishment. Instead, I really want to emphasize this: This is an opportunity for schools to really adopt the value of recess, to have the adults step up and make sure that they’re implementing quality recess, so that they can use that time to improve the experience of every student. So we’re definitely glad that it’s not a punitive space anymore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>This law goes into effect next school year. Are California schools going to be ready to meet this requirement? Are all campuses equipped to hold recess every day?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s going to be a challenge. At Playworks, we definitely know and believe that it is possible for every school to have safe and healthy play, but it definitely takes a lot of work. Here at Playworks, we use what we call a great recess framework, which outlines some indicators of what you might see at a high-quality recess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11965299\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11965299 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/kidsatplay02.jpg\" alt=\"Children are running around at recess on the schoolgrounds. A building with painted orange butterflies is seen in the background.\" width=\"800\" height=\"534\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/kidsatplay02.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/kidsatplay02-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The new law will also prohibit educators from withholding recess as a form of punishment. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Playworks Northern California)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>That looks like having caring, consistent adults who are present to play and engage with youth. It looks like kids having options of many games to play in, and the choice about what they want to do and also leadership within those games. It involves conflict-resolution strategies that are agreed upon by the school culture, but it takes time to build that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I would say that it’s realistically going to be a process. 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Why does that matter?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11965301\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11965301\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks-800x1100.jpg\" alt=\"A smiling woman with long brown hair and a hot pink sweatshirt is seen standing on a playground on a sunny afternoon.\" width=\"800\" height=\"1100\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks-800x1100.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks-1020x1402.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks-160x220.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks-1117x1536.jpg 1117w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/Laura-Medina-Quintanar-Playworks.jpg 1455w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Laura Medina Quintanar is the executive director at the nonprofit Playworks, Northern California. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Playworks Northern California)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Laura Medina Quintanar: First and foremost, this legislation puts a very needed spotlight on the importance of recess time. A lot of times, we think of recess almost as a throwaway in between that really valuable academic time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But we learned, especially during the pandemic, that recess, and the way that it complements the school day, is incredibly valuable for all kinds of cognitive, social, emotional, and, of course, physical activity opportunities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Do you believe that outside playtime is equally important as the classroom learning the children are gaining?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oh yes, absolutely. Playworks has over 25 years of experience working directly with schools, with programs helping them build a sustainable capacity for safe and healthy play. What we’ve seen time and time again, is that when there are structures for high-quality recess in place, there are positive benefits that spill over from the recess time into the classroom. 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Gavin Newsom signed Senate Bill 291 into law last week, making a half-hour of recess mandatory for all elementary school students from kindergarten through eighth grade in the state. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Playworks Northern California)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>That makes it really hard to all of a sudden be expected to go back into the classroom. In addition to isolation, the trauma that was brought on by the pandemic, that was impacted by the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s a lot to be expected to suddenly perform in this academic setting. Recess is more important than ever to help continue to ease that transition and fill all those gaps that became even larger during the pandemic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Is it true that under SB 291, schools will no longer be allowed to deny recess as a form of punishment?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s very good news. We love to hear that. 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"content": "\u003cp>Two of Johanna Wonderly’s four children depend on hearing aids, and the other two will probably need them in the future. At roughly $6,000 per child, the cost adds up quickly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the Roseville family can only afford them when Wonderly’s husband, Paul, is called to active duty for the California Army National Guard, because that’s when federal coverage kicks in. The family’s standard insurance does not cover hearing aids.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her second oldest daughter, Cara, was born while Paul was working at his then-private-sector job as a bartender. His insurance denied their claim for a hearing aid. A state-run program for children with disabilities or chronic medical conditions said the family made too much money to qualify for help. The Wonderlys applied for assistance through a national non-profit and crossed their fingers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Dr. Dylan Chan, director, Children’s Communication Center at UC San Francisco\"]‘It would be like being able to diagnose a child with asthma but not giving them an inhaler.’[/pullquote]“We were living paycheck-to-paycheck back then. We didn’t have savings if my husband lost his job, let alone pay for an unexpected $6,000 expense,” Johanna Wonderly said. “We were going to have to say ‘Sorry, Cara. You don’t get hearing aids.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Legislature this year unanimously passed a measure that would have helped families like hers by \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB635\">requiring health insurers to cover hearing aids\u003c/a> for anyone under 21. Most private health insurance in California designates children’s hearing aids as cosmetic or elective devices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over the weekend \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/SB-635-Veto.pdf\">Gov. Gavin Newsom vetoed the bill\u003c/a>, citing improvements made to an existing state program established in 2021 to help families afford hearing aids. It’s the second time Newsom has effectively blocked this legislation and pointed to the state’s Hearing Aid Coverage for Children Program as an alternative. Advocates and some legislators say that program has failed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=\"news_11963514,news_11964331,news_11963061\" label=\"Related Stories\"]In his veto message, Newsom cites concern about creating a costly precedent by adding benefits to the state’s Affordable Care Act insurance exchange, known as Covered California. A legislative analysis estimates the added cost at about $11 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom also said improving access to children’s hearing aids remained a priority for his administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We can, and we must, do better for these children and their families as we implement” the Hearing Aid Coverage for Children Program, the message said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Children’s advocates say the program will never work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s been two years of oversight hearings on this program. It’s not working, so to double down on a failing program it’s not only harmful to children, it’s wasting, you know, millions of taxpayers dollars,” said Michelle Marciniak, co-founder of \u003ca href=\"https://letcakidshear.com/\">Let California Kids Hear\u003c/a>, a parent advocacy group that sponsored the legislation. Marciniak’s daughter lost partial hearing after a viral infection.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Lifelong impact of hearing loss\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Research shows infants and children who cannot hear can develop permanent speech, language, and cognitive deficits. They quickly fall behind in school, suffering delayed reading comprehension and social and emotional problems. Those who get an assistive device like a \u003ca href=\"https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/146/4/e20200557/79717/Kindergarten-Readiness-in-Children-Who-Are-Deaf-or?autologincheck=redirected\">hearing aid within the first six months\u003c/a> of life have much better outcomes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you have a child that’s born with hearing loss and doesn’t get hearing aids until the age of 3 or 4, this kid is going to be delayed for the rest of their life,” said Dr. Daniela Carvalho, director of Rady Children’s Hospital-San Diego’s hearing program, who testified in support of the measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11964611\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11964611\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A young white girl with a hearing aid and red shirt leans over a desk holding a pencil to a piece of paper.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-2048x1366.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cassie, 9, works on her homework on Oct. 11, 2023. \u003ccite>(Jyotsana Bhamidipati/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Dr. Dylan Chan, director of the Children’s Communication Center at UC San Francisco, said the impact on a child’s life is so profound that hospitals are required by state and federal law to test every newborn for hearing problems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But identifying kids with hearing loss does no good if we don’t have the ability to provide the appropriate interventions,” Chan said. “It would be like being able to diagnose a child with asthma but not giving them an inhaler.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carvalho said several of her patients’ families were waiting for the legislation to pass to be able to afford hearing aids.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They have their hands tied. I mean it literally is a choice that the family needs to make. It’s a huge financial decision,” Carvalho said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Support for hearing aid bill\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Marciniak, the advocate who has helped lead the fight for coverage since 2019, said lawmakers brought the bill back this year because the Hearing Aid Coverage for Children Program has been ineffective since it launched in 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is definitely a broken promise,” Marciniak said. “And it’s disappointing because they haven’t been willing to come to the table to solve this with us in a meaningful way.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most states already include hearing aid coverage in their insurance exchanges. Thirty-two states require private insurance to offer some level of coverage for kids’ hearing aids, including 27 that mandate it as a benefit under the Affordable Care Act. California only offers coverage to very low-income families through public insurance like Medi-Cal or the program for kids with disabilities, setting the income cap for a family of four around $40,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state’s coverage gap leaves 20,000 kids and young adults whose families don’t qualify for low-income assistance, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://www.chbrp.org/sites/default/files/bill-documents/SB0/Abbreviated%20Analysis%20of%20SB%20635%20Hearing%20Aids%20FINAL%20060923.pdf\">California Health Benefits Review Program analysis for the Legislature\u003c/a>. That represents nearly half of all hearing aid users between the ages of 0 and 20.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2019 a similar bill passed unanimously and was sent to Newsom. At the time, former Santa Monica Democratic Assemblymember Richard Bloom, the bill author, told \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2022/08/childrens-hearing-aids/\">CalMatters\u003c/a> that Newsom asked him to rescind the bill with a promise to create a budget fix.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That “fix” came in the form of the Hearing Aid Coverage for Children Program. The program, which received $16 million its first year, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2022/08/childrens-hearing-aids/\">distributed hearing aids to 39 children\u003c/a> and has been harshly criticized by legislators demanding accountability. Last year another budget allocation \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2022/09/children-hearing-aids/\">expanded eligibility to about 7,000 kids\u003c/a> and doubled the budget. Currently, \u003ca href=\"https://www.dhcs.ca.gov/services/HACCP/Pages/Partners/Program-Data.aspx\">255 children\u003c/a> — roughly half of all applicants — have gotten hearing aids, according to state data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parents say they can’t find providers who participate, the application process is lengthy and confusing, and resources are unavailable for people who don’t speak English.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11964612\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11964612\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Three young white girls sit against a wall with an illustration while the middle child holds a baby.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">From left Caitlyn, Cassie, Carter and Cara in Roseville on Oct. 11, 2023. \u003ccite>(Jyotsana Bhamidipati/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Kasey Cain, a mom from Lincoln and board president of California Hands and Voices, said she spent nine months fighting red tape. She sent required paperwork to the program in a pre-addressed envelope from the state. It was returned as undeliverable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was a nightmare. I started to receive calls that they were going to close my account because they never received the documents,” Cain said. “I don’t know why your self-addressed envelope doesn’t work.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eventually, she and her husband gave up and put the $2,500 charge on a credit card. They couldn’t wait any longer to update their 7-year-old son’s hearing aid. Later, when one of his hearing aids was replaced by a cochlear implant, insurance considered it a necessary medical device and covered it. The family was responsible for a $15 copay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s veto message said the Department of Health Care Services, which manages the hearing aid program, has developed an improvement plan that will be implemented over the next six months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A representative from the Department of Health Care Services in a written statement said the department has moved its application process online and translated materials into 19 languages. Information about the program is also mailed to all parents’ whose children are identified with hearing loss at birth.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>California Democrats want to try again\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Sen. Caroline Menjivar, a Democrat from Burbank, co-authored this year’s measure with Democratic Sen. Anthony Portantino from Glendale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m not sure why we haven’t been able to pass it,” Menjivar said during the bill’s final floor vote. “We are behind close to 30 states that have already implemented this. Let’s be the next one.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement following the veto, Menjivar pledged to hold the administration accountable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wonderly, the mom of four, said it took 14 months for her eldest daughter Cassie’s hearing loss to get diagnosed. She worried that Cassie, who didn’t respond to sound and who had the limited eyesight normal for newborns, wouldn’t know who her parents were.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Every night I fell asleep with my hand on my baby because I wanted her to know that she was secure, she was safe. That she knew that we were there for her,” Wonderly said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wonderly said eventually the national grant program paid for her second daughter’s hearing aids. But soon Cassie, now 9, will need an updated pair, and Wonderly’s two other children, ages 7 and 1, who also have hearing loss, will likely need hearing aids in the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The closest provider that participates in the Hearing Aid Coverage for Children Program is more than 100 miles away, Wonderly said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Supported by the California Health Care Foundation (CHCF), which works to ensure that people have access to the care they need, when they need it, at a price they can afford. Visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.chcf.org/\">www.chcf.org\u003c/a> to learn more.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>In his veto message, Newsom cites concern about creating a costly precedent by adding benefits to the state’s Affordable Care Act insurance exchange, known as Covered California. A legislative analysis estimates the added cost at about $11 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom also said improving access to children’s hearing aids remained a priority for his administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We can, and we must, do better for these children and their families as we implement” the Hearing Aid Coverage for Children Program, the message said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Children’s advocates say the program will never work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s been two years of oversight hearings on this program. It’s not working, so to double down on a failing program it’s not only harmful to children, it’s wasting, you know, millions of taxpayers dollars,” said Michelle Marciniak, co-founder of \u003ca href=\"https://letcakidshear.com/\">Let California Kids Hear\u003c/a>, a parent advocacy group that sponsored the legislation. Marciniak’s daughter lost partial hearing after a viral infection.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Lifelong impact of hearing loss\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Research shows infants and children who cannot hear can develop permanent speech, language, and cognitive deficits. They quickly fall behind in school, suffering delayed reading comprehension and social and emotional problems. Those who get an assistive device like a \u003ca href=\"https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/146/4/e20200557/79717/Kindergarten-Readiness-in-Children-Who-Are-Deaf-or?autologincheck=redirected\">hearing aid within the first six months\u003c/a> of life have much better outcomes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you have a child that’s born with hearing loss and doesn’t get hearing aids until the age of 3 or 4, this kid is going to be delayed for the rest of their life,” said Dr. Daniela Carvalho, director of Rady Children’s Hospital-San Diego’s hearing program, who testified in support of the measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11964611\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11964611\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A young white girl with a hearing aid and red shirt leans over a desk holding a pencil to a piece of paper.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-2048x1366.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-15-scaled-1-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cassie, 9, works on her homework on Oct. 11, 2023. \u003ccite>(Jyotsana Bhamidipati/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Dr. Dylan Chan, director of the Children’s Communication Center at UC San Francisco, said the impact on a child’s life is so profound that hospitals are required by state and federal law to test every newborn for hearing problems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But identifying kids with hearing loss does no good if we don’t have the ability to provide the appropriate interventions,” Chan said. “It would be like being able to diagnose a child with asthma but not giving them an inhaler.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carvalho said several of her patients’ families were waiting for the legislation to pass to be able to afford hearing aids.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They have their hands tied. I mean it literally is a choice that the family needs to make. It’s a huge financial decision,” Carvalho said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Support for hearing aid bill\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Marciniak, the advocate who has helped lead the fight for coverage since 2019, said lawmakers brought the bill back this year because the Hearing Aid Coverage for Children Program has been ineffective since it launched in 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is definitely a broken promise,” Marciniak said. “And it’s disappointing because they haven’t been willing to come to the table to solve this with us in a meaningful way.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most states already include hearing aid coverage in their insurance exchanges. Thirty-two states require private insurance to offer some level of coverage for kids’ hearing aids, including 27 that mandate it as a benefit under the Affordable Care Act. California only offers coverage to very low-income families through public insurance like Medi-Cal or the program for kids with disabilities, setting the income cap for a family of four around $40,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state’s coverage gap leaves 20,000 kids and young adults whose families don’t qualify for low-income assistance, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://www.chbrp.org/sites/default/files/bill-documents/SB0/Abbreviated%20Analysis%20of%20SB%20635%20Hearing%20Aids%20FINAL%20060923.pdf\">California Health Benefits Review Program analysis for the Legislature\u003c/a>. That represents nearly half of all hearing aid users between the ages of 0 and 20.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2019 a similar bill passed unanimously and was sent to Newsom. At the time, former Santa Monica Democratic Assemblymember Richard Bloom, the bill author, told \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2022/08/childrens-hearing-aids/\">CalMatters\u003c/a> that Newsom asked him to rescind the bill with a promise to create a budget fix.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That “fix” came in the form of the Hearing Aid Coverage for Children Program. The program, which received $16 million its first year, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2022/08/childrens-hearing-aids/\">distributed hearing aids to 39 children\u003c/a> and has been harshly criticized by legislators demanding accountability. Last year another budget allocation \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2022/09/children-hearing-aids/\">expanded eligibility to about 7,000 kids\u003c/a> and doubled the budget. Currently, \u003ca href=\"https://www.dhcs.ca.gov/services/HACCP/Pages/Partners/Program-Data.aspx\">255 children\u003c/a> — roughly half of all applicants — have gotten hearing aids, according to state data.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Parents say they can’t find providers who participate, the application process is lengthy and confusing, and resources are unavailable for people who don’t speak English.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11964612\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11964612\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Three young white girls sit against a wall with an illustration while the middle child holds a baby.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/101223-Hearing-Aid-Veto-JYO-CM-19.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">From left Caitlyn, Cassie, Carter and Cara in Roseville on Oct. 11, 2023. \u003ccite>(Jyotsana Bhamidipati/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Kasey Cain, a mom from Lincoln and board president of California Hands and Voices, said she spent nine months fighting red tape. She sent required paperwork to the program in a pre-addressed envelope from the state. It was returned as undeliverable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was a nightmare. I started to receive calls that they were going to close my account because they never received the documents,” Cain said. “I don’t know why your self-addressed envelope doesn’t work.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eventually, she and her husband gave up and put the $2,500 charge on a credit card. They couldn’t wait any longer to update their 7-year-old son’s hearing aid. Later, when one of his hearing aids was replaced by a cochlear implant, insurance considered it a necessary medical device and covered it. The family was responsible for a $15 copay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s veto message said the Department of Health Care Services, which manages the hearing aid program, has developed an improvement plan that will be implemented over the next six months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A representative from the Department of Health Care Services in a written statement said the department has moved its application process online and translated materials into 19 languages. Information about the program is also mailed to all parents’ whose children are identified with hearing loss at birth.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>California Democrats want to try again\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Sen. Caroline Menjivar, a Democrat from Burbank, co-authored this year’s measure with Democratic Sen. Anthony Portantino from Glendale.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m not sure why we haven’t been able to pass it,” Menjivar said during the bill’s final floor vote. “We are behind close to 30 states that have already implemented this. Let’s be the next one.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement following the veto, Menjivar pledged to hold the administration accountable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wonderly, the mom of four, said it took 14 months for her eldest daughter Cassie’s hearing loss to get diagnosed. She worried that Cassie, who didn’t respond to sound and who had the limited eyesight normal for newborns, wouldn’t know who her parents were.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Every night I fell asleep with my hand on my baby because I wanted her to know that she was secure, she was safe. That she knew that we were there for her,” Wonderly said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wonderly said eventually the national grant program paid for her second daughter’s hearing aids. 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"content": "\u003cp>Domestic service workers and employers rallied in San Francisco and Los Angeles Thursday lambasting Gov. Gavin Newsom’s rejection of legislation aimed at preventing injuries and illnesses on the job over concerns that it would be too intrusive for households.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some in the crowd of more than 100 near San Francisco City Hall held signs that read “Newsom: You are on the wrong side of history” and “I deserve a safe workplace.” Chants in Spanish of “Get out Newsom!” rose up periodically. A simultaneous demonstration in Los Angeles drew about 125 people, organizers said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Protesters said they felt frustrated that the governor vetoed — for the second time — a measure to extend state occupational health and safety protections to an estimated 300,000 nannies, home-care aides and cleaners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need a safe workplace just like other workers,” said Elizabeth Montiel, 60, adding that she endured a severe muscle injury from lifting heavy furniture and moving a washing machine while cleaning homes in San Francisco. “I am a domestic worker and I deserve respect. We deserve our dignity to be recognized.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California’s labor law explicitly exempts household domestic service from its definition of “employment,” which historians attribute to a legacy of slavery and sexist policies impacting a workforce made up heavily of women of color.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Elizabeth Montiel, domestic worker, Bay Area\"]‘We need a safe workplace just like other workers. I am a domestic worker and I deserve respect. We deserve our dignity to be recognized.’[/pullquote]Because of the legal exclusion, the California Division of Occupational Safety and Health (Cal/OSHA) does not have jurisdiction to issue citations on complaints involving this kind of labor, according to the agency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Montiel and other workers said they’ve pushed for years for equal protections, including by traveling to Sacramento several times to rally and lobby lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB686\">SB 686\u003c/a>, introduced by state Sen. Maria Elena Durazo (D-Los Angeles), would have required many household employers to take steps to provide a safer workplace, as is the case in other industries, by Jan. 1, 2025. Publicly funded domestic services and family daycare homes would have remained exempt from job safety regulations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11964311\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11964311 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg\" alt='A group of people cheer and hold up signs including one that reads \"Living Wage Coalition\" in an outdoor setting.' width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The California Domestic Workers Coalition, domestic workers and employers gather outside the Earl Warren Building to protest Gov. Newsom’s veto of SB 686 in San Francisco on Thursday, Oct. 12, 2023. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Newsom countered that rules meant for businesses would prove too onerous and potentially expensive for private households, particularly lower-income ones, which he said comprise 44% of the homes that employ domestic services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his Sept. 30 \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/SB-686-Veto-Message.pdf\">veto message (PDF)\u003c/a>, Newsom said SB 686 would make homeowners and renters subject to a “full set” of requirements, such as maintaining an Injury and Illness Prevention Program and providing an eyewash station to workers who use bleach and other chemicals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"California Gov. Gavin Newsom\"]‘While I commend the author for the commitment to the well-being of workers in our state … new laws in this area must recognize that private households and families cannot be regulated in the exact same manner as traditional businesses.’[/pullquote]“While I commend the author for the commitment to the well-being of workers in our state and share the spirit behind the legislation, new laws in this area must recognize that private households and families cannot be regulated in the exact same manner as traditional businesses,” Newsom said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The governor also lamented that the measure did not identify which specific rules employers would be required to follow, or a particular system for enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But supporters pointed out that the bill allowed at least one year for Cal/OSHA to work out industry-specific standards compatible with groundbreaking \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11939848/a-legacy-of-slavery-for-domestic-workers-californias-new-safety-guidelines-are-long-overdue-say-advocates\">voluntary guidelines\u003c/a> for employers issued by the state last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Allowing domestic workers to be covered by safety protections was “a necessary first step to beginning this process,” said employers at the Hand in Hand network, which \u003ca href=\"https://domesticemployers.org/domestic-employers-condemn-newsoms-veto-of-domestic-worker-health-safety-bill/\">condemned\u003c/a> the governor’s veto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oakland resident Jessica Lehman, who uses a wheelchair and employs home attendants to help her get out of bed and prepare meals, said Newsom’s statement was upsetting and “disingenuous.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The 46-year-old believes that making the home workplace safer would also be a gain for people who live there, and help decrease labor shortages in the home-care industry by offering better jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11964313\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11964313 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A group of people cheer and hold up purple signs in an outdoor setting.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The California Domestic Workers Coalition, domestic workers and employers gather outside the Earl Warren Building to protest Gov. Newsom’s veto of SB 686 in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I’m part of that community of people who aren’t rich who employ domestic workers, who know that this is going to benefit all of us. … that this is not going to keep us from getting the care and support we need,” said Lehman, a former executive director at Senior and Disability Action in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Sen. Maria Elena Durazo (D-Los Angeles)\"]‘I’m deeply disappointed that the Governor does not recognize the inherent worth and dignity of the women who care for our homes and families by vetoing SB 686.’[/pullquote]Newsom used “employers as an excuse to veto the bill, rather than actually asking our communities what we want and what we need,” she added.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sen. Durazo authored two other bills aimed at ending the exclusion of people who labor in homes from state safety protections. In 2020, Newsom \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billStatusClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB1257\">vetoed\u003c/a> SB 1257 over similar concerns that regulations would be intrusive and unworkable for employers at residential dwellings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The following year, worker advocates tried again with SB 321, but after negotiations with Newsom’s office, the measure that went into effect led instead to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.dir.ca.gov/dosh/documents/Voluntary-Industry-Guidelines-SB-321.pdf\">voluntary industry guidance (PDF)\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m deeply disappointed that the Governor does not recognize the inherent worth and dignity of the women who care for our homes and families by vetoing SB 686,” Durazo told KQED in a statement after the most recent veto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='More on Around California' tag='california-law']The home setting may be different from other worksites, but domestic employees perform similar tasks to those of nursing homes, hotel housekeeping or janitorial jobs, said Kevin Riley, who is the director of UCLA’s Labor Occupational Safety & Health Program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He authored an \u003ca href=\"https://www.dir.ca.gov/dosh/doshreg/House-Domestic/Domestic-Work-Hazards-April.29.2022.pdf\">analysis (PDF)\u003c/a> of more than 3,500 California worker compensation claims by housekeepers, nannies and caregivers, which found that the top causes for their injuries included falls, heavy lifting and other repetitive motions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For people doing those tasks in homes, the same risks apply, and therefore, we should be thinking about similar kinds of measures to provide protections to these folks,” Riley said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Because of the legal exclusion, the California Division of Occupational Safety and Health (Cal/OSHA) does not have jurisdiction to issue citations on complaints involving this kind of labor, according to the agency.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Montiel and other workers said they’ve pushed for years for equal protections, including by traveling to Sacramento several times to rally and lobby lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB686\">SB 686\u003c/a>, introduced by state Sen. Maria Elena Durazo (D-Los Angeles), would have required many household employers to take steps to provide a safer workplace, as is the case in other industries, by Jan. 1, 2025. Publicly funded domestic services and family daycare homes would have remained exempt from job safety regulations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11964311\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11964311 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg\" alt='A group of people cheer and hold up signs including one that reads \"Living Wage Coalition\" in an outdoor setting.' width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-019-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The California Domestic Workers Coalition, domestic workers and employers gather outside the Earl Warren Building to protest Gov. Newsom’s veto of SB 686 in San Francisco on Thursday, Oct. 12, 2023. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Newsom countered that rules meant for businesses would prove too onerous and potentially expensive for private households, particularly lower-income ones, which he said comprise 44% of the homes that employ domestic services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his Sept. 30 \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/SB-686-Veto-Message.pdf\">veto message (PDF)\u003c/a>, Newsom said SB 686 would make homeowners and renters subject to a “full set” of requirements, such as maintaining an Injury and Illness Prevention Program and providing an eyewash station to workers who use bleach and other chemicals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“While I commend the author for the commitment to the well-being of workers in our state and share the spirit behind the legislation, new laws in this area must recognize that private households and families cannot be regulated in the exact same manner as traditional businesses,” Newsom said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The governor also lamented that the measure did not identify which specific rules employers would be required to follow, or a particular system for enforcement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But supporters pointed out that the bill allowed at least one year for Cal/OSHA to work out industry-specific standards compatible with groundbreaking \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11939848/a-legacy-of-slavery-for-domestic-workers-californias-new-safety-guidelines-are-long-overdue-say-advocates\">voluntary guidelines\u003c/a> for employers issued by the state last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Allowing domestic workers to be covered by safety protections was “a necessary first step to beginning this process,” said employers at the Hand in Hand network, which \u003ca href=\"https://domesticemployers.org/domestic-employers-condemn-newsoms-veto-of-domestic-worker-health-safety-bill/\">condemned\u003c/a> the governor’s veto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Oakland resident Jessica Lehman, who uses a wheelchair and employs home attendants to help her get out of bed and prepare meals, said Newsom’s statement was upsetting and “disingenuous.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The 46-year-old believes that making the home workplace safer would also be a gain for people who live there, and help decrease labor shortages in the home-care industry by offering better jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11964313\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11964313 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"A group of people cheer and hold up purple signs in an outdoor setting.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/20231012-Domestic-Workers-021-JY-KQED.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The California Domestic Workers Coalition, domestic workers and employers gather outside the Earl Warren Building to protest Gov. Newsom’s veto of SB 686 in San Francisco. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I’m part of that community of people who aren’t rich who employ domestic workers, who know that this is going to benefit all of us. … that this is not going to keep us from getting the care and support we need,” said Lehman, a former executive director at Senior and Disability Action in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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Together, they represent Newsom’s latest effort to transform care at the intersection of mental health and homelessness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two bills Newsom signed on Thursday — Senate Bill 326 and Assembly Bill 531 — will appear on the March 5, 2024 ballot as Proposition 1.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This was bipartisan legislation that we signed today, Democrats, Republicans — all of us impacted by the issue of mental health, mental illness,” Newsom said at a bill signing ceremony in Los Angeles. “So we’re very excited about the prospect of our success in March.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>SB 326 reworks the state’s Mental Health Services Act, first approved by voters in 2004. The MHSA places a 1% tax on personal income over $1 million to fund mental health care, along with services aimed at preventing mental health issues in kids and teens from becoming more severe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"California Gov. 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Tax revenue from wealthy Californians is a volatile revenue source, and directing more of that money toward housing could leave less funding for core mental health services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='More on California Law' tag='california-law']“Counties have a significant and growing obligation to fund behavioral health services under the Medi-Cal entitlement and use MHSA funds to support that obligation,” according to the final Senate analysis of the bill. “This proposal leaves counties with fewer resources to do so, including less funding available to use as a Medi-Cal match to draw down additional federal dollars.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>AB 531 proposes a $6.38 billion bond, with the goal of providing 10,000 new beds and supportive housing units for those with severe behavioral health needs who, supporters of the plan argue, currently end up in emergency rooms or back on the streets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over $1 billion will be set aside for veterans with behavioral health needs. 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