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Gavin Newsom on Tuesday announced plans to deploy 120 California Highway Patrol officers in and around Oakland as part of a “surge operation” to crack down on theft and violent crime in the city and surrounding area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What’s happening in this beautiful city and surrounding area is alarming and unacceptable,” Newsom \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/02/06/chp-surge-east-bay/\">said in a statement\u003c/a>, noting that as crime has dropped in many cities across the state — including \u003ca href=\"https://www.sf.gov/news/san-franciscos-public-safety-efforts-deliver-results-decline-crime-rates\">San Francisco\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://mayor.lacity.gov/news/lapd-reports-homicides-and-violent-crime-down-2023-mayor-bass-highlights-comprehensive\">Los Angeles\u003c/a> — it has continued to climb in Oakland. “I’m sending the California Highway Patrol to assist local efforts to restore a sense of safety that the hardworking people of Oakland and the East Bay demand and deserve.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The deployment will mark a nearly 900% increase in CHP personnel in Oakland and Alameda County, according to the statement, and amounts to almost 20% of the total number of OPD officers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Throughout the operation, the CHP’s efforts will include enforcement of auto theft, cargo theft, retail crime, and high-visibility proactive traffic enforcement in and around Oakland and Alameda County,” CHP spokesperson Jaime Coffee said. The strategy, he added, is to saturate the area with officers and investigators who will work directly with local law enforcement agencies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This will include CHP specialty units like narcotics-detecting K9 units and air support,” Coffee said. “CHP will also deploy license-plate reader technology to detect and recover stolen vehicles.”[aside label=\"More on Oakland crime issues\" postID=\"news_11974485,news_11961919,news_11928655\"]The governor’s move follows calls for assistance from a growing number of local organizations and politicians, including the Oakland Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce and Mayor Sheng Thao. Last month, a group of Oakland community leaders \u003ca href=\"https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/oakland-leaders-meet-with-gov-newsom-to-address-crime/\">traveled to Sacramento\u003c/a> to meet with the governor and request more crime-fighting resources.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A spate of recent headlines have focused on the city’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/14/us/oakland-crime-economy-homelessness.html\">rising crime rates, \u003c/a>economic woes, and the ongoing efforts to \u003ca href=\"https://oaklandside.org/2024/01/09/oakland-mayor-sheng-thao-recall-campaign/\">recall its mayor\u003c/a> and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11966518/pamela-price-recall-alameda-potential\">county’s district attorney\u003c/a> — largely over crime concerns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Violent crime in Oakland increased by 21% in 2023, compared to the previous year — with the number of homicides plateauing at 120 — while robberies climbed 38% and motor vehicle theft jumped 45%, \u003ca href=\"https://cityofoakland2.app.box.com/s/sjiq7usfy27gy9dfe51hp8arz5l1ixad/file/1404598604813\">according to Oakland Police Department end-of-year data\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The Oakland police has a ‘no chase’ policy. Most of the criminals, they are jumping from one city to another, and OPD cannot chase them,” said Carl Chan, president of the Oakland Chinatown Chamber of Commerce, who was among the group of community advocates that attended the January meeting with Newsom. “The CHP has the right to go into all the different cities within the state. So that is extremely helpful.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The deployment also comes after the Newsom administration late last year distributed over $267 million in grants to local police and sheriff’s departments and district attorney’s offices throughout California to fight organized retail theft. But Oakland received none of that funding because \u003ca href=\"https://www.ktvu.com/news/emails-texts-help-explain-how-oakland-missed-out-on-millions-to-fight-retail-theft\">it missed the application deadline,\u003c/a> a blunder that Thao later said she, as mayor, took “full responsibility for.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The governor brought that up one, two, three times,” said Robert Harris of the Oakland NAACP, who was also at the January meeting. “He talked about the missed deadline, and then about 10 minutes later, he said the same thing over, ‘We’ve made that available to you, and you didn’t file.'”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Facing criticism from conservatives over his handling of crime in the state, Newsom has recently toughened his stance on the issue, \u003ca href=\"https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/01/09/property-crime-framework/\">last month calling for new legislation \u003c/a>to expand criminal penalties for property crimes — even as he has so far \u003ca href=\"https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/09/newsoms-property-crime-package-sidesteps-prop-47-00134448#:~:text=The%20governor%20is%20asking%20for,a%20contentious%20voter%2Dpassed%20initiative.\">sidestepped demands to reform Proposition 47\u003c/a>, the 2014 measure that reduced certain drug and theft crimes from felonies to misdemeanors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The governor’s office last year also \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/eastbay/article/california-approves-oakland-bid-for-chp-officers-18274937.php\">sent six CHP officers\u003c/a> and a sergeant to Oakland to help with traffic enforcement and extended a $1.2 million loan to the city to install automated license-plate readers, leading to the arrest of 100 suspected criminals and the recovery of 193 stolen vehicles, it said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Newsom’s Tuesday statement, Thao welcomed the additional help from the state. 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In it, he explicitly asked the California Department of Human Resources to make re-evaluating education requirements a higher priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The governor’s order came after at least 15 states had already enacted similar or more aggressive changes to their hiring practices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last year, Assemblymember \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/legislator-tracker/rebecca-bauer-kahan-1978/\">Rebecca Bauer-Kahan\u003c/a>, a Democrat from Orinda, proposed \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1693\">Assembly Bill 1693\u003c/a>, which would have put California on par with many other states by making education requirements the exception, rather than the norm, for state employees. “There is no reason for California to have an arbitrary barrier to access these good-paying jobs that benefit our state,” she said. 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Another, more limited bill by state Sen. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/legislator-tracker/rosilicie-ochoa-bogh-1972/\">Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh\u003c/a>, a Republican from Redlands, was introduced on the same day. \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB943\">Senate Bill 943\u003c/a> would \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB943\">waive bachelor’s degree requirements for certain veterans\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since 2015, the state’s human resources department has changed the requirements for \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1752009933191835968?s=20\">nearly 170 kinds of jobs,\u003c/a> which represent about 27,000 people. Bauer-Kahan’s bill would have forced the state to reevaluate the remaining 2,600 other kinds of state jobs over the next year, which represent roughly 200,000 more people, said Camille Travis, a spokesperson for the state’s human resources department. She said the state does not know the number of jobs that currently require a degree because most jobs offer multiple ways for candidates to qualify.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re not going to do it overnight,” said Monica Erickson, the department’s chief deputy director. She said that changing the job descriptions can be “extremely complex,” requiring input or approval from other state agencies, the State Personnel Board and unions, if applicable. 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Since 2019, the state has added roughly 20,000 positions, an increase of more than 8%, according to Travis, a spokesperson for the state’s human resources department. The same challenges exist in county and city governments, which tend to face even higher vacancy rates, according to a \u003ca href=\"https://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/civil-service-vacancies-in-california-2022-2023/\">report\u003c/a> by the UC Berkeley Labor Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More than three-quarters of jobs in the county of San Diego don’t require a degree, a significant increase since the county started reassessing its jobs in 2022. 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The Newsom administration estimates it will cost $234 million over three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Newsom, at least for now, is not recommending any additional prison closures. Instead, his state budget proposal recommends keeping prisons open with fewer inmates in them to provide more space for rehabilitative programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The administration is not currently proposing any additional prison closures,” H.D. Palmer, spokesperson for the Department of Finance, said in a statement. “We remain committed to meeting the needs of staff and the incarcerated population while right-sizing California’s prison system as the prison population declines over time and to addressing space needs as the state transforms the carceral system to one more focused on rehabilitation.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11973408\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11973408\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/237_KQED_NewFolsomPrisonSacramento_04132023-qut.jpg\" alt='A sign at Folsom Prison reads, \"All Prisoners Must Exit Vehicle Until Cleared By Officer.\"' width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/237_KQED_NewFolsomPrisonSacramento_04132023-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/237_KQED_NewFolsomPrisonSacramento_04132023-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/237_KQED_NewFolsomPrisonSacramento_04132023-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/237_KQED_NewFolsomPrisonSacramento_04132023-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/237_KQED_NewFolsomPrisonSacramento_04132023-qut-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An entrance to California State Prison, known as New Folsom Prison, on April 13, 2023. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Opponents of mass incarceration say the administration’s argument for keeping empty prison beds open doesn’t align with how the money is spent. [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Brian Kaneda, deputy director, Californians United for a Responsible Budget\"]‘This is a cash grab by [the corrections department].’[/pullquote]“This is a cash grab by [the corrections department],” said Brian Kaneda, deputy director of the prison abolitionist group Californians United for a Responsible Budget. Newsom has touted \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2024/01/san-quentin-correctional-officer/\">transforming San Quentin State Prison\u003c/a> into a rehabilitation center, but advocates like Kaneda and state advisory groups say the plan is vague.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rehabilitation costs, which currently include prisoner education and activities, only make up a fraction of total correctional spending — roughly 3% — over the past decade, according to state budget documents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a written statement, the corrections department said its spending plan “judiciously uses taxpayer dollars in a manner that balances the need for cost-efficiency while maximizing public safety, the wellbeing of incarcerated people and successful rehabilitation.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Costs in California prisons\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The actual cost to house a prisoner is much closer to $15,000, said Caitlin O’Neil, a criminal justice analyst for the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst’s Office. Direct costs include things such as food and clothing, while the remaining 91% of spending per prisoner comes from \u003ca href=\"https://www.lao.ca.gov/PolicyAreas/CJ/6_cj_inmatecost\">fixed costs like salaries and facility upkeep\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She found that compensation for employees at the corrections department increased by 43% between 2010 and 2019 — from $110,000 to $158,000 — nearly \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/4145\">triple the inflation rate\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last summer, the state prison guard contract included $10,000 bonuses for officers at certain prisons and a new guaranteed 401k contribution in addition to regular pension benefits. [aside postID=news_11965926 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/10/005_Sharon_230929_076-KQED-1020x680.jpg']The state’s current savings from prison closures, about $200 million per facility, is not nearly enough to offset those pay and benefits boosts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We would have to close one or more prisons per year just to offset employee compensation increases that happen regularly,” O’Neil said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The peace officers’ union did not respond to requests for comment. Prison labor advocates often argue that jobs are dangerous and difficult to staff, warranting high compensation benefits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The union can be a force in the Capitol. It has contributed \u003ca href=\"https://www.followthemoney.org/show-me?dt=1&s=CA&law-exi=1&law-ot=S,H&law-y=2023&d-eid=3286\">$2.2 million to the campaigns\u003c/a> of current state legislators, and it gave \u003ca href=\"https://cal-access.sos.ca.gov/Campaign/Committees/Detail.aspx?id=1302403&view=contributions&session=2021\">$1.75 million to help Newsom\u003c/a> defeat a 2021 recall campaign. It also recently contributed\u003ca href=\"https://cal-access.sos.ca.gov/Campaign/Committees/Detail.aspx?id=1302403&view=late2\"> $1 million to support Proposition 1\u003c/a>, the measure Newsom placed on the March ballot to build housing and treatment facilities for people with serious mental health conditions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite a precipitous decline in prison populations, corrections spending has remained relatively stable. In 2018, the average daily prison population topped 120,000 compared to a projected 90,240 people in 2024. That’s a 25% decrease. In contrast, correctional spending as a share of the total state budget has barely dropped from 7% to 6% in the same period.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Over the past decade, the number of California inmates has dropped an estimated 25%\" aria-label=\"Column Chart\" id=\"datawrapper-chart-ymn5Y\" src=\"https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/ymn5Y/6/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"width: 0; min-width: 100% !important; border: none;\" height=\"250\" data-external=\"1\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"At the same time, the California corrections department budget has increased\" aria-label=\"Column Chart\" id=\"datawrapper-chart-vYJdC\" src=\"https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/vYJdC/5/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"width: 0; min-width: 100% !important; border: none;\" height=\"300\" data-external=\"1\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The cost per inmate is up 91%, with average medical spending more than doubled\" aria-label=\"Grouped Columns\" id=\"datawrapper-chart-7pZZu\" src=\"https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/7pZZu/5/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"width: 0; min-width: 100% !important; border: none;\" height=\"400\" data-external=\"1\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What should be good news to opponents of mass incarceration — decreasing populations — has not resulted in a leaner criminal justice system. [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Brian Kaneda, deputy director, Californians United for a Responsible Budget\"]‘If you have $700 million in annual savings from prison closure, but you’re spending hundreds of millions of dollars on new prison infrastructure … that starts to show why the math isn’t mathing.’[/pullquote]“If you have $700 million in annual savings from prison closure, but you’re spending hundreds of millions of dollars on new prison infrastructure and giving prison guards a billion-dollar raise [over three years], that starts to show why the math isn’t mathing,” Kaneda said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But wholesale cuts to correctional spending don’t necessarily always equate to better prison conditions, said \u003ca href=\"https://www.fordham.edu/school-of-law/faculty/directory/full-time/john-pfaff/\">John Pfaff\u003c/a>, a law professor at Fordham University.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you don’t cut [budgets] carefully, that makes prisons worse places to be. It makes them more dangerous, more traumatic,” Pfaff said. “I say that as someone who is not a fan at all of prisons as a general institution.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Prison medical costs soar\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Medical care is one area of increased spending where the state, under court order, is trying to improve prison conditions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The average cost per person for medical care has more than doubled in the past 10 years, and total health care spending by the corrections department has increased by about 67%. Although the recent prison closures have cut about 2,700 correctional positions, medical spending has eaten up those savings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prison officials \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2023/08/california-union-prison-doctor-strike-vote/\">struggle to hire highly trained medical professionals\u003c/a> when they can easily find work elsewhere. The vacancy rate for psychiatrists exceeds 50% at some state hospitals and prisons, according to court documents filed in an ongoing lawsuit about prison conditions and safety, and 20% of positions for primary care doctors are empty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To fill the gap, California has spent more than $1.1 billion on temporary medical staff over the past five years, according to documents obtained by CalMatters through the California Public Records Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state tried to combat chronic staff shortages in the \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2023/09/california-union-contract-doctor-bonuses/\">latest contract signed with the prison doctor’s union\u003c/a>, offering $42,000 bonuses on top of raises.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Should California close more prisons?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Former Assembly Budget Chair Phil Ting, a Democrat from San Francisco, said corrections is the only state program where having fewer people translates into more spending. In 2022, Ting proposed \u003ca href=\"https://a19.asmdc.org/news/20221209-sac-bee-newsom-has-closed-3-prisons-now-lawmakers-are-planning-shut-more\">closing three more prisons\u003c/a> to bring down fixed costs and account for the shrinking number of prisoners. [aside postID=news_11969359 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/230726-SAN-QUENTIN-MHN-12-qut-1020x680.jpg']“If we were educating 50% less kids, you’d see the funding go down. If we had 50% less people in health care or 50% fewer families using CalFresh, the programs would go down,” Ting said. “So how is it at a time when the prison population has not just gone down a little bit, has gone down significantly, that spending increased?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There were roughly 15,000 empty beds last year in prisons across the state, according to the Legislative Analyst’s Office. That number, driven largely by decades of sentencing changes and court-ordered mandates to decrease prison crowding, is expected to reach 20,000 over the next three years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re not not talking about some very small number where they want to keep a little bit of a buffer,” Ting said. “They want to keep three to five empty prisons up and running.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ting, who is no longer the budget chair, said he may still push to shut down more prisons this year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>California Gov. Gavin Newsom \u003ca href=\"https://ebudget.ca.gov/FullBudgetSummary.pdf\">unveiled his plan\u003c/a> on Wednesday to close an estimated $37.9 billion budget shortfall by drawing down on state reserves and cutting some previous investments in climate and housing programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s proposal — a $291.5 billion spending plan that kicks off the year’s budget process at the capitol — estimates a smaller deficit than earlier projections from state analysts. Nevertheless, the governor offered a sober assessment of the toll the inflation-battered economy has taken on state finances. [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"California Gov. Gavin Newsom\"]‘All of this uncertainty happened because we experienced something we’ve never experienced in the modern history in this state. We had a blindfold on.’[/pullquote]“For decades and decades, we’ve come to expect the unexpected as it relates to the volatility of our tax system,” Newsom said at a press conference in Sacramento, calling the fiscal problems “a story of correction, a story of normalization” after record surpluses during his first term.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Further complicating matters, much of the revenue shortfall is in the budget year that ended last June. Delayed tax collection made it difficult for lawmakers to grasp how much revenue would arrive in state coffers when they negotiated the budget last summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“All of this uncertainty happened because we experienced something we’ve never experienced in the modern history in this state,” Newsom said. “We had a blindfold on.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response, Newsom’s budget taps $13.1 billion from the state’s reserves, cuts $8.5 billion in spending and pulls in $5.7 billion through internal borrowing and a tax on health care providers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In December, the nonpartisan \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/4819\">Legislative Analyst’s Office pegged the budget shortfall at $68 billion\u003c/a>, as income tax collections fell 25% in the 2022–23 fiscal year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom said his administration’s smaller deficit projection was largely due to differing estimates of tax revenue in the coming year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are just a little less pessimistic than they are about the next year,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Going forward, Newsom said he wants to increase the amount of money the state can stash in reserves during surplus years, which is currently capped at 10% of the general fund.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Ten percent is not adequate,” Newsom said. “We’ve got to reconcile the volatility of the capital gains [tax revenue] … and it’s really important to capture more going forward.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Senate leader Toni Atkins said the rainy-day savings over the last decade have put the state in a stronger position to weather this deficit than in the years following the Great Recession. [aside label='More on California’s Budget' tag='california-budget']“Now, because of more than a decade of responsible budgeting, we’re better prepared to protect the path of progress we’ve made,” Atkins said in a statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some Republicans called for Newsom to enact further cuts before tapping state reserves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Years of out-of-control spending by the governor and the legislative Democrats have added billions of dollars of new ongoing costs,” said Assemblymember Vince Fong (R-Bakersfield) the vice chair of the Assembly Budget Committee. “Until the governor takes control of the unsustainable spending, it is premature to tap the rainy day fund.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Throughout his press conference, Newsom bristled at calls for new taxes, suggesting that even discussing ideas such as a “wealth tax” plan damage the state’s reputation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That proposal, which would tax the net worth of high-income residents, is expected to receive an initial hearing in the Legislature on Wednesday afternoon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s no wealth tax, there’s no income tax,” Newsom said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The cuts in Newsom’s budget are centered on reductions on climate programs, with investments dropping from $54 billion to $48.3 billion, by trimming investments in biking and walking projects, along with fire prevention programs such as home hardening and prescribed fires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Water and energy are the largest climate reductions of more than a billion dollars. At the same time, there are nearly $160 million in new investments for flood protection, levee repair and the restoration of the Salton Sea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some environmental groups said they are glad the cuts aren’t deep into the climate sector.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But, the climate crisis and the corporations who are causing it will not pause while we wait for another budget surplus — and neither can we,” said David Weiskopf, senior policy advisor with NextGen California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom said the Biden administration’s investments in transportation and climate projects through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Act and the Inflation Reduction Act “helped supplement some of the modest cuts we’re making in this space.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Laura Deehan, state director at Environment California, said she was disappointed in the cuts to clean car and rooftop solar incentives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Clean energy and climate programs are investments we make for our kids and grandkids,” Deehan said in a statement. “If we cut now, they pay more later in health and in their environment as well as money.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s budget proposal also pauses funding to implement all newly signed laws — including the Climate Accountability Package made up of two laws that would require large corporations to publicly disclose their greenhouse gas emissions, carbon embedded in supply chains and climate risks — until the state’s finances are clear in May.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s critical that the May budget include funding to implement these laws so that businesses have the certainty they need to prepare to make these new disclosures,” Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Elsewhere in the budget, Newsom proposed $1.2 billion in cuts to housing programs supporting rental housing development, infill development and homeownership, along with a modest drop in per-pupil spending and deferred some funding for higher education and capital transit projects. [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Matt Schwartz, CEO, California Housing Partnership\"]‘They will result in some short-term savings, and they will have long-term costs that will exceed the savings.’[/pullquote]Matt Schwartz, CEO of the California Housing Partnership, expressed dismay with the cuts to housing programs. “They will result in some short-term savings,” he said, “and they will have long-term costs that will exceed the savings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to his analysis, the proposed cuts could lead to 6,400 fewer affordable homes built, including many reserved for people exiting homelessness. “The state has been only producing about 20,000 new affordable homes a year. So we’re talking about a reduction of about a third,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The governor’s budget aims to protect spending on homelessness, including $1 billion for local homelessness funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re seeing more and more people fall into homelessness, and a reversal of those funding streams would be dangerous at a time when folks are really struggling,” said Christopher Martin, policy director for Housing California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s plan also seeks to maintain investments in high-profile health services commitments, including $3.4 billion to expand access to Medi-Cal coverage to all low-income immigrant adults, regardless of their legal status. The budget also includes $234 million to build the infrastructure for Newsom’s CARE Courts, which aim to help people with serious psychotic illnesses into treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The budget “prioritizes what we learned during the pandemic, that our health is dependent on the health and wellness of our community members, from our neighbors to the essential workers we rely on,” said Anthony Wright, executive director of the consumer group, Health Access California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The governor said he would honor the bill he signed into law last year to raise the minimum wage for health care workers to $25 an hour, but his budget plan did not include funding for it, raising some concerns that negotiations between labor and industry might need to resume.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Legislature will hold hearings on Newsom’s proposal in the coming months, and the governor will propose a revised budget in May.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/eromero\">Ezra David Romero\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/vrancano\">Vanessa Rancaño, \u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/adembosky\">April Dembosky\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/mlagos\">Marisa Lagos\u003c/a> contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>Converting a state prison into a rehabilitative center, as the Newsom administration seeks to do with San Quentin, means changing how guards do their jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead of shying away from “overfamiliarity” with incarcerated people, prison guards should ask them about their families or favorite NFL teams. Instead of only reporting offenses, guards should note positive changes in inmates. Instead of adopting a militarized footing against prisoners, guards should meet them in a common area to eat or watch movies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Those are some of the recommendations from an advisory panel overseeing the conversion of \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2023/03/san-quentin-prison-gavin-newsom/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">San Quentin into what Gov. 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We have to change the training.’[/pullquote]Guards with welding, plumbing or carpentry experience could do vocational training in those subjects. Eventually, the community correctional officers would become part of an inmate’s rehabilitation team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report quoted an unnamed correction department official who said: “We train staff like they are going to war. We’re not going to war. We have to change the training.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Quentin houses about 3,300 of California’s more than 90,000 inmates. In March, Newsom pledged to transform the prison into a rehabilitation hub. He has marked \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/prisons/2023/02/how-many-prisons-does-california-need/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">four other state prisons for closure\u003c/a> since he took office in 2019, a trend enabled by California’s falling population of state prison inmates.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"h-newsom-looks-to-norway-on-prison-policy\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Newsom looks to Norway on prison policy\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The plan for San Quentin is modeled on prisons in Scandinavian countries, \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/insidecdcr/2019/12/16/california-leaders-learn-from-norwegian-prison-system/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">including Norway\u003c/a>, which significantly decreased its rate of prisoners being convicted of crimes after release from 60%–70% in the 1980s to about 20% today when it began to allow prisoners more freedom and focused its prisons on rehabilitation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In those prisons, incarcerated people can wear their own clothes, cook their own food and have relative freedom of movement within the prison walls. That model \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/criminal-justice/2022/06/prison-rehabilitation-norway-model/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">has taken root\u003c/a> in states as disparate as deep-blue Connecticut and deep-red North Dakota.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California prison officials \u003ca href=\"https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/insidecdcr/2019/12/16/california-leaders-learn-from-norwegian-prison-system/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">took a tour of Norwegian facilities\u003c/a> in 2019 and said they came away impressed. The group included leaders from the union representing state prison guards, the California Correctional Peace Officers Association.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11971777\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1568px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11971777\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy.jpg\" alt=\"An older inmate walks away from the camera with a wall on one side and a fence on the other.\" width=\"1568\" height=\"1045\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy.jpg 1568w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1568px) 100vw, 1568px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An inmate at San Quentin State Prison on March 17, 2023. \u003ccite>(Martin do Nascimento/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Newsom estimated it would cost $380 million to remodel the prison as a rehabilitation campus. The new report from his advisory committee urges the administration to look for ways to reduce that expense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though California lawmakers have mentioned the prison programs in Norway and North Dakota as successful systems to replicate, it’s unclear exactly what California’s model will look like. That’s something the Legislative Analyst’s Office pointed out \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/4771\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">in a report last year\u003c/a>, shortly after Newsom announced the conversion plan for San Quentin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“While the administration has articulated some broad approaches to pursuing the goals of the California Model, such as ‘becoming a trauma-informed organization,’ it has not identified any clear changes to policy, practice, or prison environments it deems necessary to achieve the goals,” the report’s author, Caitlin O’Neil, wrote in May.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"h-san-quentin-already-home-to-rehab-programs\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">San Quentin already home to rehab programs\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>San Quentin, California’s oldest prison, has a lengthy list of maintenance needs that totaled \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/4186\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">more than $1.6 billion in 2021\u003c/a>. But it also has an \u003ca href=\"https://sanquentinnews.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">award-winning prison newspaper\u003c/a>, the inmate-hosted podcast Ear Hustle and a program in which inmates can earn an associate’s degree in general studies after completing 20 classes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Related Stories\" postID=\"news_11959818,news_11956776,forum_2010101894449\"]Keith Brown, who served time at California State Prison, Corcoran and is still incarcerated at San Quentin, told CalMatters in July that the experience in San Quentin was notably better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Corcoran “didn’t have any programs, really, and it (got) real hot there,” Brown said. “Here, it’s a little bit better. 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The only way to do that, according to the report, is to reduce the number of inmates at San Quentin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The complications go further still — California elected officials have shown a distaste for more prison spending while the prison population drops and would prefer to spend that money on community-oriented solutions, but cutting money to the prisons means fewer programs and worse living conditions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is no magic wand that can resolve all of these tensions,” the advisory group wrote in the report. “Policymakers will be grappling with these tradeoffs.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>CalMatters investigative reporter Byrhonda Lyons contributed to this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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The group included leaders from the union representing state prison guards, the California Correctional Peace Officers Association.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11971777\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1568px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11971777\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy.jpg\" alt=\"An older inmate walks away from the camera with a wall on one side and a fence on the other.\" width=\"1568\" height=\"1045\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy.jpg 1568w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/01/031723-SAN-QUENTIN-REHABILITATION-CENTER-MHN-08-CM-copy-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1568px) 100vw, 1568px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An inmate at San Quentin State Prison on March 17, 2023. \u003ccite>(Martin do Nascimento/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Newsom estimated it would cost $380 million to remodel the prison as a rehabilitation campus. The new report from his advisory committee urges the administration to look for ways to reduce that expense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though California lawmakers have mentioned the prison programs in Norway and North Dakota as successful systems to replicate, it’s unclear exactly what California’s model will look like. 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"content": "\u003cp>Californians in two industries are set to get new minimum wages just for them next year, and that could lead to pay bumps for other workers, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This year, Gov. Gavin Newsom signed two union-backed bills to boost fast-food and health care workers’ minimum wages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California-based \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/california-divide/2023/09/minimum-wage-california/\">fast-food workers\u003c/a> for chains with 60 or more locations around the nation will earn at least $20 an hour beginning in April, $4 higher than the overall state minimum wage of $16 that will be effective Jan. 1.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In June, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2023/10/california-minimum-wage-health-care-law/\">health care workers\u003c/a> will earn a minimum of $18, $21 or $23 an hour, depending on what type of facility employs them and where they work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The industry-specific wage increases reflect a shift in unions’ strategies at the Capitol. After the Great Recession, labor groups led campaigns that resulted in then-Gov. Jerry Brown signing a law in 2016 that put California on a path to a $15 minimum wage. That law included inflation adjustments, which is why the minimum wage is higher today. [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"John Logan, professor of labor studies, San Francisco State University\"]‘Other food-services companies will likely have to increase wages to retain workers in a sector in which chronic understaffing, and the stress and burnout that causes among remaining staff, is already a problem.’[/pullquote]The two new laws are expected to trigger pay increases for about 900,000 Californians, some of whom are earning more than minimum wage today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They are going into effect in a competitive labor market that has seen employers, especially \u003ca href=\"https://www.sgvtribune.com/2023/02/10/these-small-business-owners-are-upbeat-despite-hiring-challenges/\">small businesses\u003c/a>, struggling to hire and retain workers. California’s unemployment rate is 4.8%, which is higher than the federal unemployment rate of 3.7% but is near a historic low.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new fast-food minimum wage could push up pay for other restaurant and food workers, experts say.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a tight labor market, “other food-services companies will likely have to increase wages to retain workers in a sector in which chronic understaffing, and the stress and burnout that causes among remaining staff, is already a problem,” said John Logan, professor of labor studies at San Francisco State University.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11970645\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11970645\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage02.jpg\" alt=\"Gov. Gavin Newsom is speaking at a podium, smiling, surrounded by press and cheering people.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage02.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage02-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage02-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage02-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage02-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage02-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gov. Gavin Newsom signs legislation supporting the rights of fast food workers and boosting wages to $20 an hour, starting in April of 2024, during a press conference at SEIU Local 721 in Los Angeles on Sept. 28, 2023. Anneisha Williams, a leader in Fight for 15 and a Union and a fast food worker, cheers beside him to the right. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic/CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Others say the industry-specific minimum wage could have ripple effects in other industries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keith Miller owns three Subway sandwich shops in Northern California and is a spokesperson for the American Association of Franchisees & Dealers, which opposed the fast-food worker legislation. The law passed with support from major fast-food chains, which gained assurances that unions would drop an initiative that would have made the chains liable for their franchises’ labor violations. [aside postID=news_11954955 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2023/07/RS66719_GettyImages-1458634098-qut-1020x680.jpg']Under the law, Miller said, franchisors like McDonald’s or Subway avoid responsibility but franchisees like him will bear the costs of paying higher wages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Miller questioned why fast-food workers were singled out as needing a minimum-wage increase and added that it could affect industries such as retail. He said retail workers might switch over to fast food if they can make more money there, or retailers might need to raise their workers’ wages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s kind of a fallacy that this impacts only fast-food workers,” Miller said. “It kind of creates a market rate. In effect, the minimum wage for a lot of people will be $20.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Upcoming minimum wage measures\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In November, California voters will see a ballot initiative that would raise the\u003ca href=\"https://ktla.com/news/california/18-minimum-wage-in-california-what-to-know-about-next-years-ballot-measure/\"> state minimum wage to $18 an hou\u003c/a>r. Billionaire Joe Sanberg backs it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, workers in other industries are also fighting for higher minimum wages. In Los Angeles, a proposed ordinance would institute a \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/california-divide/2023/06/california-minimum-wage-2/\">$25 minimum wage for workers\u003c/a> in the tourism industry before the 2026 World Cup and the 2028 Olympics, which would rise to $30 an hour by 2028. [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Keith Miller, franchise owner, Subway\"]‘It’s kind of a fallacy that this impacts only fast-food workers. It kind of creates a market rate. In effect, the minimum wage for a lot of people will be $20.’[/pullquote]Jovan Houston, an airport security worker at Los Angeles International Airport, said she has worked there for six years and makes $19.78 an hour. She said a wage boost would be “extremely” helpful for her and her 13-year-old son. They live with her niece and her four kids because rent is so expensive, Houston said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s cramped, but I can’t afford to move,” she said, adding that she has coworkers “who work two or three days to survive. They’re sleeping in the back on their breaks because they’re tired.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even as she fights for the Los Angeles ordinance that would raise her wages, Houston thinks it’s possible that her company would cut workers if forced to pay them more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They might eliminate workers,” Houston said. “I’m definitely worried about that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The effects of higher minimum wages\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The costs and potential consequences of the higher minimum wages worry some people, including economists and the governor, while others see upsides.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Economist Christopher Thornberg, one of the founding partners of Beacon Economics, said that in a competitive market, increasing minimum wages for the lowest-paid workers will lead to higher prices for consumers. For example, \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/30/mcdonalds-chipotle-to-raise-california-menu-prices-as-fast-food-wages-rise.html#:~:text=McDonald's%20and%20Chipotle%20Mexican%20Grill%20will%20raise%20their%20menu%20prices,quarterly%20earnings%20in%20recent%20days.\">McDonald’s\u003c/a>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/30/mcdonalds-chipotle-to-raise-california-menu-prices-as-fast-food-wages-rise.html#:~:text=McDonald's%20and%20Chipotle%20Mexican%20Grill%20will%20raise%20their%20menu%20prices,quarterly%20earnings%20in%20recent%20days.\"> and Chipotle\u003c/a> executives have said they plan to raise prices next year to offset increased labor costs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Michael Reich, an economics professor at UC Berkeley, said the effect of increased wages on product costs is relatively low and is usually seen in labor-intensive industries like dining and fast food. Reich said that when wages rise 10%, costs in the restaurant industry go up by about 2% to 3%, usually just on a one-time basis instead of a yearly increase.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reich said raising wages for workers can lead to their upward mobility. Any adverse effects, such as higher costs for consumers or contribution to inflation, are negligible, he and other economists said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By increasing minimum wages for the lowest-paid workers, “you raise the standard of living,” Reich said. “That is quite significant.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11970646\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11970646\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03.jpg\" alt=\"A strike of health care workers hold signs outside of a Kaiser Permanente facility.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kaiser Permanente employees on strike on Oct. 4, 2023. The workers held a demonstration in front of the Kaiser Permanente South Sacramento location. \u003ccite>(Miguel Gutierrez Jr./CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In addition, securing minimum wages for certain groups could eventually be used as a model to benefit other types of workers, such as gig workers who don’t currently have employee status, said Nelson Lichtenstein, a professor at UC Santa Barbara who has written books about labor history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One could see a wage commission … for the Uber world that can establish certain kinds of criteria, which would have the effect of a minimum wage,” Lichtenstein said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, the new \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2023/11/california-health-care-minimum-wage-cost/\">minimum wage for health care workers\u003c/a> is expected to cost $4 billion in the first year — half from California’s general fund and half from federal funds — during a time when it is facing a gaping budget deficit. So the governor reportedly is \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-07/as-california-deficit-tops-68-billion-newsom-seeks-changes-to-healthcare-wage-law\">seeking changes\u003c/a>, though it is unclear what form they will take.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What’s next for California labor?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Worker advocates and labor leaders cheer their victories on wages as they strive to improve workers’ lives in other ways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The unions that advocated for the fast-food and health care minimum wages said their list of priorities is long and includes other concerns, such as how artificial intelligence will affect work, housing costs, worker classification and more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We can talk about leave, minimum wage, etc., but it doesn’t matter if we’re replacing people with robots in the workplace,” said Lorena Gonzalez Fletcher, head of the California Labor Federation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Isabel Urbano, a spokesperson for the Service Employees International Union, which campaigned for the fast-food bill and played a critical role in championing the minimum wage increase Gov. Brown signed in 2016, said: “The wage increase won’t mean anything if we don’t stabilize schedules and have predictable hours.” [pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Lisa Fu, executive director, California Healthy Nail Salon Collaborative\"]‘What’s happening in the state and around the country with the labor movement has been really, really inspiring for us.’[/pullquote]Lisa Fu, executive director of the worker-advocacy group California Healthy Nail Salon Collaborative, said, “What’s happening in the state and around the country with the labor movement has been really, really inspiring for us.” However, she said her organization’s main goal is to educate nail salon workers and businesses about labor laws. 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They’re sleeping in the back on their breaks because they’re tired.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even as she fights for the Los Angeles ordinance that would raise her wages, Houston thinks it’s possible that her company would cut workers if forced to pay them more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They might eliminate workers,” Houston said. “I’m definitely worried about that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The effects of higher minimum wages\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The costs and potential consequences of the higher minimum wages worry some people, including economists and the governor, while others see upsides.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Economist Christopher Thornberg, one of the founding partners of Beacon Economics, said that in a competitive market, increasing minimum wages for the lowest-paid workers will lead to higher prices for consumers. 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Reich said that when wages rise 10%, costs in the restaurant industry go up by about 2% to 3%, usually just on a one-time basis instead of a yearly increase.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Reich said raising wages for workers can lead to their upward mobility. Any adverse effects, such as higher costs for consumers or contribution to inflation, are negligible, he and other economists said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By increasing minimum wages for the lowest-paid workers, “you raise the standard of living,” Reich said. “That is quite significant.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11970646\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11970646\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03.jpg\" alt=\"A strike of health care workers hold signs outside of a Kaiser Permanente facility.\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/CMWage03-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Kaiser Permanente employees on strike on Oct. 4, 2023. The workers held a demonstration in front of the Kaiser Permanente South Sacramento location. \u003ccite>(Miguel Gutierrez Jr./CalMatters)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In addition, securing minimum wages for certain groups could eventually be used as a model to benefit other types of workers, such as gig workers who don’t currently have employee status, said Nelson Lichtenstein, a professor at UC Santa Barbara who has written books about labor history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“One could see a wage commission … for the Uber world that can establish certain kinds of criteria, which would have the effect of a minimum wage,” Lichtenstein said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, the new \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/2023/11/california-health-care-minimum-wage-cost/\">minimum wage for health care workers\u003c/a> is expected to cost $4 billion in the first year — half from California’s general fund and half from federal funds — during a time when it is facing a gaping budget deficit. So the governor reportedly is \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-07/as-california-deficit-tops-68-billion-newsom-seeks-changes-to-healthcare-wage-law\">seeking changes\u003c/a>, though it is unclear what form they will take.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What’s next for California labor?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Worker advocates and labor leaders cheer their victories on wages as they strive to improve workers’ lives in other ways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The unions that advocated for the fast-food and health care minimum wages said their list of priorities is long and includes other concerns, such as how artificial intelligence will affect work, housing costs, worker classification and more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We can talk about leave, minimum wage, etc., but it doesn’t matter if we’re replacing people with robots in the workplace,” said Lorena Gonzalez Fletcher, head of the California Labor Federation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Isabel Urbano, a spokesperson for the Service Employees International Union, which campaigned for the fast-food bill and played a critical role in championing the minimum wage increase Gov. 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"content": "\u003cp>If any year is looked back on as pivotal in California’s fight to curb mental illness, homelessness and drug-related deaths, 2023 could be the one. Gov. Gavin Newsom pushed major — and at times controversial — \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/mental-health/2023/08/california-mental-health-services-newsom/\">reforms of the state’s mental and behavioral health systems\u003c/a> through the Legislature, but a mere two months after signing the laws, Newsom accused counties of moving too slowly to adopt them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom on Friday, at a press conference, took local governments to task, publicly pressuring them to take action on the state’s new conservatorship law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The state has done its job. It’s time for the counties to do their job,” Newsom said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In October, lawmakers significantly loosened long-standing rules limiting who can be placed in involuntary treatment. The change to the state’s conservatorship rules allows people who can’t take care of their own medical needs or personal safety to be deemed “gravely disabled” and placed in treatment facilities without consent. This includes people struggling with addiction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the vast majority of counties have opted to delay implementing the conservatorship expansion, putting them at odds with the governor’s timeline. They play a critical role in the law because they administer the state’s social services and mental health programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>County leaders said they need more guidance and resources. They argue they lack the staff and funding to move this new policy forward. The law goes into effect in 2024 but allows counties to defer implementation until 2026.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Fifty-six counties out of the state’s 58 are requesting permission to delay implementing the law, Tony Vartan, Stanislaus County’s Behavioral Health Director, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smlBBytSgQ4\">told his Board of Supervisors\u003c/a> this week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"California Gov. Gavin Newsom\"]‘You have a crisis out there. There’s a crisis on the streets and people are talking about delaying the conservatorship efforts till 2026. We can’t afford to wait.’[/pullquote]Only San Luis Obispo and \u003ca href=\"https://www.sf.gov/news/san-francisco-prepared-implement-new-conservatorship-law-help-people-struggling-severe\">San Francisco\u003c/a> counties plan on beginning implementation next month, Vartan said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom said during Friday’s press call that the “lack of urgency” at the local level was disappointing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You have a crisis out there. There’s a crisis on the streets and people are talking about delaying the conservatorship efforts till 2026. We can’t afford to wait,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Michelle Doty Cabrera, executive director of the County Behavioral Health Directors Association of California, said in a statement behavioral health departments are “already stretched” thin and need time to coordinate such a complex change. In the past two years, they’ve been hit by increased demand for services, widespread provider shortages, and a series of new state mandates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“County boards of supervisors across California have heard clearly from hospitals, law enforcement officials, and county behavioral health professionals that infrastructure capacity, staffing and training must be in place to make the law successful,” Cabrera said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"h-california-counties-singled-out\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">California counties singled out\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The change comes on the heels of another major Newsom mental health initiative. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/2022/09/california-lawmakers-approved-care-court-what-comes-next/\">CARE Court\u003c/a>, which passed last year and began rolling out in October, allows people with untreated mental illness to be placed in \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/2023/08/care-court-california-start/\">court-mandated treatment programs and housing\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far, eight counties are operating a CARE court. Now, most of those early adopters have chosen to delay the conservatorship expansion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label=\"Related Stories\" postID=\"news_11964791,science_1984855,news_11961241\"]One of the counties that is operating a CARE Court, Riverside, is taking more time to adopt the conservatorship law. Newsom singled it out at his press conference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Riverside County (is) doing great work on CARE Court, but decided not to move forward with the implementation of conservatorship,” Newsom said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Riverside County officials said they’re not ready to carry out changes to the conservatorship law, which carries “significant responsibilities.” The county’s behavioral health department, hospitals and law enforcement need time to expand treatment facilities, increase housing capacity, develop new protocols and train staff, Dr. Matthew Chang, behavioral health director of Riverside University Health System, said to the Riverside County Board of Supervisors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Setting an implementation date in 2026 would signal our commitment to getting it right for our community,” Chang said during board remarks.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"h-mayors-back-newsom-s-timeline\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Mayors back Newsom’s timeline\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Several California mayors, by contrast, are urging counties to move faster. Mayors often bear the brunt of residents’ complaints about homelessness, but they tend to have little influence over social services and mental health spending.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Diego Mayor Todd Gloria, who supported a majority of Newsom’s mental health reforms, urged his county’s board of supervisors to implement the conservatorship expansion immediately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11970238\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 1024px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11970238\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/GettyImages-1410298764.jpg\" alt=\"A Latino man in a dark gray suit with a maroon tie gestures as he speaks into a microphone.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/GettyImages-1410298764.jpg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/GettyImages-1410298764-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/GettyImages-1410298764-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/GettyImages-1410298764-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Diego Mayor Todd Gloria in a photo from July 21, 2022 in San Diego. \u003ccite>(Daniel Knighton/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“While the law allows for counties to delay implementation until 2026, our county is experiencing an unacceptable behavioral health crisis — one all of us see clearly every day in our communities. Putting implementation off will cost people their lives,” Gloria and other \u003ca href=\"https://www.sandiego.gov/sites/default/files/2023-12/20231204-sb43-county-signon-letter-final.pdf\">San Diego County mayors wrote in a letter \u003c/a>to the board this month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nora Vargas, chair of the board of supervisors, initially proposed delaying implementation to 2025 after hospital and behavioral health leaders argued more people would cycle in and out of the emergency room without proper support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“San Diego County will implement (the conservatorship law) in a way that is methodical and equitable because these are real people and real families seeking care,” Vargas said in a statement to CalMatters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tim McClain, a spokesperson for San Diego County Health and Human Services Agency, said the county is moving as quickly as possible despite receiving no support from the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The law “comes with no new resources for hospitals, substance use disorder treatment providers, or county-run public conservator offices. It doesn’t establish clinical assessment criteria that will incline clinicians to extend holds. And it doesn’t do anything to create the operational tools that will actually get people with substance use disorder from (emergency departments) into ongoing addiction treatment,” McClain said in a statement to CalMatters.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"h-demand-on-mental-health-system\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Demand on mental health system\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Among the concerns raised by counties is a dramatic influx in the number of people needing treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Kern and Santa Barbara counties, behavioral health officials have said they expect the number of people who would qualify for involuntary treatment to increase tenfold, \u003ca href=\"https://www.bakersfield.com/news/45-counties-including-kern-to-delay-launch-of-major-mental-health-law/article_6db580bc-90dd-11ee-8f8b-935b4dc28496.html\">\u003cem>The Bakersfield Californian\u003c/em> \u003c/a>and \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.independent.com/2023/12/12/grave-disability-law-poses-grave-problems-for-santa-barbara-countys-mental-health-system/\">Santa Barbara Independent\u003c/a>\u003c/em> have reported.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote align=\"right\" size=\"medium\" citation=\"Supervisor Robert Rickman, San Joaquin County\"]‘We need the state to provide us with guidance on how we can best apply this law to help the vulnerable and protect people’s civil rights while ensuring their treatment.’[/pullquote]Behavioral health officials in Stanislaus County told their board of supervisors that because the expanded definition of “gravely disabled” will now include people with drug use disorders, the number of conservatees will likely go up. They said they need additional staff and coordination to handle a larger population. There are also very few treatment settings for people with severe substance use disorders in the county, health officials said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Stanislaus County Board of Supervisors agreed to push back implementation, but supervisors said they would like to enact the law sometime before 2026.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In neighboring San Joaquin County, supervisors this week also voted to \u003ca href=\"https://www.sjgov.org/press-releases/press-release-detail/2023/12/13/board-protects-local-services-by-deferring-sb-43\">delay the law’s implementation\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need the state to provide us with guidance on how we can best apply this law to help the vulnerable and protect people’s civil rights while ensuring their treatment,” Supervisor Robert Rickman said in a press release.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of the recent changes at the state level target serious mental illness among the state’s growing homeless population, which has ballooned by more than 30% to 170,000 people since Newsom took office in 2019.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In March, voters will be asked to approve or reject yet another major overhaul of the state’s mental and behavioral health system. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/health/mental-health/2023/09/gavin-newsom-mental-health-2024-election/\">Proposition 1\u003c/a> includes two key provisions: a $6.4 billion bond to pay for 10,000 treatment beds and supportive housing and a revamp of the state’s 20-year-old law that funds mental health services through a tax on personal income over $1 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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Newsom singled it out at his press conference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Riverside County (is) doing great work on CARE Court, but decided not to move forward with the implementation of conservatorship,” Newsom said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Riverside County officials said they’re not ready to carry out changes to the conservatorship law, which carries “significant responsibilities.” The county’s behavioral health department, hospitals and law enforcement need time to expand treatment facilities, increase housing capacity, develop new protocols and train staff, Dr. Matthew Chang, behavioral health director of Riverside University Health System, said to the Riverside County Board of Supervisors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Setting an implementation date in 2026 would signal our commitment to getting it right for our community,” Chang said during board remarks.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"h-mayors-back-newsom-s-timeline\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Mayors back Newsom’s timeline\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Several California mayors, by contrast, are urging counties to move faster. Mayors often bear the brunt of residents’ complaints about homelessness, but they tend to have little influence over social services and mental health spending.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Diego Mayor Todd Gloria, who supported a majority of Newsom’s mental health reforms, urged his county’s board of supervisors to implement the conservatorship expansion immediately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11970238\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 1024px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11970238\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/GettyImages-1410298764.jpg\" alt=\"A Latino man in a dark gray suit with a maroon tie gestures as he speaks into a microphone.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/GettyImages-1410298764.jpg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/GettyImages-1410298764-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/GettyImages-1410298764-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/12/GettyImages-1410298764-160x107.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Diego Mayor Todd Gloria in a photo from July 21, 2022 in San Diego. \u003ccite>(Daniel Knighton/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“While the law allows for counties to delay implementation until 2026, our county is experiencing an unacceptable behavioral health crisis — one all of us see clearly every day in our communities. 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But officials noted that it is partly because the budget has grown so much in recent years — the most recent was \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2023/06/california-budget-deal-what-you-need-to-know/\">more than $300 billion\u003c/a> — and that the state has closed similar or worse spending gaps, by percentage, in the past.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Legislative analyst Gabriel Petek cautioned that California is better prepared to respond to the situation than during the economic recession 15 years ago because it has since built several multibillion-dollar rainy-day funds. However, the state is also looking at a structural deficit of about $30 billion annually going forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I go with the word ‘serious.’ A serious budget problem,” Petek said during a briefing with journalists. “I would stop short of calling it a crisis.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>H.D. 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Overall tax revenues are projected to be \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/newsletter/california-edd-unemployment-contractor/#wm-story-1\">$58 billion below assumptions\u003c/a> in the multi-year budget window.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though the Legislative Analyst’s Office estimates that tax revenues will begin growing again next year, the recovery will likely be slow, opening up long-term funding shortfalls that could affect essential programs in future years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are enough options available to address this immediate problem,” Petek said. “Our high-level suggestion to the Legislature is just to be judicious about reserves because there’s a lot of uncertainty ahead, so preserving some of that resilience would be helpful.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His office recommended that Newsom declare a fiscal emergency, allowing the state to dip into as much as $24 billion of its rainy-day funds and that legislators pull back on one-time spending allocations that have not yet been distributed, potentially saving $10 billion or more that had previously been set aside for transportation, environmental and education programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Petek also suggested that California could cut the deficit by nearly $17 billion over the next three years by recalculating its constitutionally mandated funding obligation to schools and community colleges, Proposition 98, based on the lower revenues. Though this would decrease the state’s base education funding over the long term, Petek said the immediate effects could be offset with reserves. [aside label='More Stories on California' tag='california']That option, in particular, could encounter stiff resistance in the Legislature. Assembly Speaker \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/legislator-tracker/robert-rivas-1980/\">Robert Rivas\u003c/a>, a Hollister Democrat, released a statement last week when it became clear that tax revenues would be substantially below estimates, committing to a budget that “protects classroom funding.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom and lawmakers are also likely to confront months of tremendous pressure from advocates arguing that their priorities should be protected in any budget solutions. 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Newsom gained attention some months ago for a peppy interview with Hannity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hannity seemed to enjoy the back and forth, and the duo formed an unlikely \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2023-11-26/fox-news-host-sean-hannity-newsom-desantis-debate\">cable bromance\u003c/a>. Soon after, when DeSantis looked like the principal alternative to former President Trump, Hannity invited DeSantis to take part in a “debate” with Newsom — and he agreed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And so this event was birthed. What did we learn?\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 class=\"edTag\">Newsom again stressed he’s not running — at least right now anyway\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The California governor hasn’t been shy about making a case for a left-of-center vision for the country. 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"content": "\u003cp>What’s up with Governor Gavin Newsom debating a presidential candidate? Marisa and Scott break down Newsom’s motivations for going head-to-head with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis tonight. Then, KQED science reporter Danielle Venton joins to dig into the home insurance crisis in California, brought on by a changing climate and the resulting natural disasters.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hey there, everyone, from KQED Public Radio. This is Political Breakdown. I’m Marisa Largo.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’m Scott Shafer. Today on the Breakdown, we dig into the home insurance crisis in California and beyond, brought on by a changing climate and the resulting natural disasters.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">KQED is own Danielle Venton and will be here to discuss her reporting, which is featured on a new season of the podcast Sold Out. But first, Scott, a big night tonight for our own California governor. For some reason, he’s in Georgia debating Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Follow the bouncing ball.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So what are they running for?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, exactly. Well, of course, DeSantis is trying to run for president. He’s have been struggling. Newsom insists he’s not running for president and he’s not.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Insists insists insists insists\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, he has subzero interest in that. But, he of course, has been raising his national profile, international profile, really with a trip to China and Israel. And so, yeah, he’s he’s been egging on, he’s been trolling DeSantis, along with Texas Governor Greg Abbott for months now. And they finally agreed to debate tonight on Fox with Sean Hannity, who apparently is buddies with Gavin Newsom now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bromance, I believe, is the correct \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. Bromance\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bromance, frenemies? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah it’s a lot of testosterone I think in the room. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hey I went back and found the tweet where Newsom originally challenged Santos to this debate. It includes lines like, “clearly you’re struggling, distracted and busy playing politics with people’s lives. I’ll bring my hair gel. You bring your hairspray.” So can we expect to that level of intellectualism do you think at this debate? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I hope not. I mean, there are some very substantive differences between these guys and between California and Florida. You did a lot of reporting, Marisa, on Covid policy and how differently California and Florida dealt with it. Now, there’s also things that Newsom’s going to have to defend, like all the homeless in San, homelessness in California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Although there’s homelessness in Florida, too. Nobody talks about it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, there there is for sure. But like all these things, it’s like they’re each going to come armed with their data. And we know that Governor Newsom loves data. He loves studies and statistics. And you can kind of get lost in that. It’s not necessarily the kind of thing that wins over an audience. And I think ultimately it’s really going to be what impression do people take away from these, you know, this confrontation? I don’t think anybody’s going to remember this, the substance of their the details of what they talked about. But it’s like, you know, DeSantis has not been the most likable on the campaign trail. A lot of people don’t like Gavin Newsom. But nonetheless, you know, he beat back a recall. And, you know, this isn’t really his audience. It’s Fox News. It’s not his base.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But he loves that because he watches Fox News all the time, as we said. I mean, he’s been on with Hannity several times. They like to spar. He showed up at the GOP presidential debate to be in the spin room. I think it’s going to be fascinating to see. Hannity is promised to sort of like not do a lot, just kind of let them go at it. So we’ll see how that works out. That could be bad if they’re just like crosstalk over each other. But yeah, I think to your point, I mean, one of the analysts I spoke with about this is Selena Zito. She writes for The Washington Examiner and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. And she was like, you know, this is a rare debate where they could actually both kind of win in the sense that, like, they’re not talking to the same audiences. So I think as long as it doesn’t feel like a routing on either side, I think they both might sort of be able to sort of claim victory. And, you know, in Newsome’s case, as someone else pointed out to me, he gets to talk to an audience that he doesn’t always and that in itself is a win for him because he is trying to spread the good word of Gavin Newsom far and wide. For whenever he runs.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think he gets points as Pete Buttigieg does when he goes on Fox just for being there, because it is known as a kind of a very hostile to Democrats kind of environment. And so, you know, we’ll see how that goes. And, you know, Marissa, you and I saw him up close debating Brian Dahle in the gubernatorial election last year.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Saw? We moderated it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We moderated it. Yeah, we did. And, you know, we remember, I think, how aggressive Newsom was in that debate\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Better than I expected, honestly.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Better and more aggressive than I thought he would be. I’m using that hand thing that he does and Bill Clinton does. Sorry. But yeah, so I think we’ll expect I would expect to see more of that tonight. And what I hope is that it’s not just a bunch of screaming over each other that people actually get to hear what they’re saying.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, like makes a case. Why is your six week abortion ban better than California’s very, you know, liberal, so to speak, abortion, like, let’s get into it. Why the Don’t Say Gay versus like the way that we’ve handled LGBT rights here? I mean, these are serious issues that impact people’s lives. And, you know, this is an opportunity. We’ll have to see. All right. Before we go to a break, Scott, big news dropped just before the Thanksgiving holiday. The assembly speaker, Robert Rivas, who just took over, is has named a bunch of new committee assignments. This is the game of musical chairs, kingmaker himself. What do we know?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, well, you know, as the expression goes, to the winner go the spoils. And so he’s getting to reward some of his big allies and some of the bigger moves that he made. Assemblymember Cecilia Aguiar-Curry from Davis is going to be replacing Isaac Bryan, who was sort of Rivas’s top lieutenant in that contentious, you know, very long battle, very contentious battle that split the caucus to who would who was going to replace Anthony Rendon as the speaker. Bryan now takes over natural resources. And then Buffy Wicks here in the Bay Area gets a really plum assignment. She’ll be chair of a proposed appropriations. And, you know, both that and the Budget Committee, which is now going to be chaired by Jesse Gabriel, taking over from Phil Ting. Those are the real two, the real juice committees. And then just real quick, another change. You know, public safety, fentanyl has become a big issue and there’s going to be a change in the chair of that public safety committee, Reggie Jones Sawyer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No surprise there. I mean, he is running in L.A. for a local office. He had gotten a lot of flak. I mean, I don’t I think he had told me that he was he knew he would be replaced, essentially. And he and he was happy about it because he’s going to be running for this local office.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Although, he’s being replaced by a guy running for mayor of Sacramento. Kevin McCarty. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right so it’s not like you can’t walk and chew gum. I mean, look, all of these are pretty progressive Democrats. Still. There are going to be some differences. I think there’s some cheering of the NIMBY sort that this idea that the sort of further strengthens, because I, I don’t think you can say that there a bunch of NIMBYs in charge before. To your point, Buffy Wicks, one of Rivas’s sort of top lieutenants in the speaker battle, getting that plum position although you know that also means you’re going to have to be the bad guy when it or bad lady when it comes time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She’s up for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah, I think she is. And I think that it I mean, it’s just I think these are the kinds of things that you’re like, okay, noted. You know, I think Isaac Bryan and him had kind of clashed because he had some, you know, designs on the leadership post as well. Yeah. But a lot of this is going to we’re going to have to wait and see what it actually means, you know?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. And I think the one one thing that is being noticed is that with Isaac Bryan leaving as sort of that inner circle for the speaker, there are now no Black members of the assembly who are really going to be among the top lieutenants for the new speaker. And there’s some consternation about that, although, you know, if you look at all the committee chairs, you know, it is a diverse group of folks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it is interesting, I mean, because we’re also this is the first time in a very long time we don’t have a speaker from either L.A. or kind of Central Bay Area. Yeah. Rivas from Salinas is a much more sort of rural, different, just different vibe. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think it’s yeah, I think those are parts of California that never really feel represented in Sacramento, whether it’s the Central Valley or the Central Coast. So yeah, I think it’ll be very interesting and he seems to be uniting the caucus in a way that it certainly wasn’t, you know, by the end of last summer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ll see.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, you will see.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All right. We’re going to take a short break. When we come back, KQED science reporter Danielle Venton will join us to talk about her deep dive into the troubled home insurance market in California. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Welcome back to Political Breakdown. I’m Marisa Lagos here with Scott Shafer. We are thrilled to have on the show today Danielle Venton. She is a science reporter here at KQED and was part of the team who just put out a new season of the podcast, Sold Out: Rethinking Housing in America. This season is a six part look at the intersection of housing and climate change crises. Danielle, thanks for being here.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thanks so much for having me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All right. Well, we want to get into the politics on what’s happening here, but I thought we’d start with the way you open your episode of the show, which is the story of a Santa Rosa man, Jason Majors. Tell us a little bit about what happened to him and kind of why you used him as a central character in this whole narrative.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I mean, I thought he typified the insurance crisis in sort of an unexpected way. So he until recently lived in northwest Santa Rosa in a very fire prone area, steep canyons, thick forests, lots of lots of overgrown brush, and survived about half a dozen fires in about the last seven years. He survived the Tubbs, the Kincade, the Walbridge, the Hennessy and the Glass fires and his home —\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And his home’s standing? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And his home is still standing. But he’s had his insurance canceled about as many times. When I spoke to him this summer, he still had insurance, but he was trying to sell his home because unfortunately, he’s getting a divorce and that’s part of the deal.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just so we understand, like did he survive all those fires by dumb luck or did he do things to make it more defensible?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He’s worked on his property a lot.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He takes it real seriously.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. Yeah. He spends days clearing brush. He has a, you know, a roof that is ready for fires that has mesh over the vents. I mean, he he does all the things he can to be prepared for fires. But he had a terrible, terribly hard time trying to sell his property. He had to drop the price four times before he found a buyer. And one of the things his agent told him was that prospective buyers liked the house. They liked the area, but they couldn’t get insurance, at least insurance that they were happy with. And so it really it was eroding into his personal wealth and, you know, the money that he’d have to use to start this new phase of life.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So this is, I mean, people I’m not going to lie Danielle, sometimes people get a little bored talking about insurance. Right. So, I mean, can you just kind of explain to us like what is the state of play here in California? When we talk about the insurance market, who are the key players when it comes to regulators, advocates? Like, how does the process work? I mean, obviously, we know as consumers, you buy a house, you got to get an insured. If you have a mortgage, you want to get it insured anyway because you don’t want something to happen. But like, how is what I pay regulated by the state? How does that all play out? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Absolutely. I mean, I think people think that insurance is boring. But I think it’s fascinating because it is our first line of defense against climate change for for most of us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it’s basically betting. I mean, right? It’s gambling.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, totally. And it’s the it’s the thing that guarantees that, you know, if something bad happens to you, it doesn’t ruin your future life. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, at the same time, it’s like one of the few things you buy that you hope you never use.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">True. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and the less often you have to use it, the healthier the whole market is. And people are using insurance too often right now. And that’s the source of the big problem. So, you know, what’s what’s the who are the players here? You have insurance companies who are, you know, placing bets basically with with their consumers about, you know, how risky their property is. You have the insurance commissioner, Ricardo Lara, who regulates the industry in the state. And then you have different consumer advocate groups who are trying to trying to look out for customers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So let’s dig into one of those, and that’s the insurance commissioner. That position was created by the voters in 1988, Proposition 103. And at that time, the big issue was auto insurance. Obviously, a lot has changed since then. So, you know, as we’re talking now about home insurance, but what else is on his plate and how much power does he, Ricardo Lara, have to address this problem?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, Prop 103 in 1988 made that an elected position. It had been appointed by the governor prior to that. So it affected car insurance, italso affected home insurance, business insurance. And he has a lot of power to determine how companies can do business, do business in the state. People have different interpretations of how well he’s using that power, whether whether he is, you know, whether Prop 103 has been, whether the rules have been kind of written to strictly, you know, above and beyond the letter of the law.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Can you tell us, like, what were the basics of 103? Like, what was besides creating this elected, you know, position? Like what what does it say?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I would assume the idea of that was to insulate that person from what, politics? To make them independent, which is kind of ironic because they’re elected now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, and now you could argue that it’s more subjected to populist winds because it is an elected position. So in the late ‘80s, car insurance in California was just increasing hand over fist. I mean, it was it was absurd. And so Prop 103 to start with, told insurance companies that they had to decrease their rates by 20%. But also that they couldn’t predict into the future how bad they thought risk was going to be. They had to use historical data to price risk. And that they couldn’t increase rates to much above about 7% without getting together all these documents, all this data going to the state and saying, hey, we want to raise our rates, you know, more than 7%. This is why you should let us. And the state would then take a look at that and say, yes you can, or no you can’t.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So created similar regulation to what we have in the electricity market, for example. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, right. And then it also created a opportunity for the public to get involved and challenge those rate increases. And if if members of the public wanted to do that, they could apply for the costs of doing that to be to be reimbursed. And some consumer advocates like Consumer Watchdog have made about $10 Million over the last decade not made, but they have been reimbursed millions of dollars for their work in challenging rate increases.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, it’s hard to understand how auto insurance could suddenly be going up, up, up, up. Like people are becoming worse drivers. But in the case of\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean maybe they were.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, maybe they were. But like not to justify those kind of rate increases that trigger this, but with, in this case, climate change and wildfires are, in fact making it more expensive for insurance companies and homeowners to survive. And so they have a better case to make, don’t they, that maybe their rates should be based on something else that’s really reflects the conditions.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because things are changing, right? To your point about projections versus reflections, yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think everyone who’s lived through the last seven years in this state realized that realizes that the risk that we thought existed ten years ago is not the risk that we have today. If you grant that, then I think it’s reasonable to, you know, to accept that maybe we need to pay more for that risk to be insured. Insurance companies want to be able to look into the future. And so they’re called catastrophic models, catastrophe modeling. Which would, which incorporate climate change models and local conditions into kind of predicting how much a place is at risk of fire or floods.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. So I guess, like what do you see as the politics here? Because it strikes me that an insurance commissioner, Ricardo Lara, needs to tackle this, but there’s also not a lot of like people like you don’t want to be the person overseeing huge increases in the market. Like, how do you see this kind of right now? It seems like nobody has really wanted to tackle it head on from the governor on down to the legislature and insurance commissioner. Do you think that’s fair?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think that’s fair. I think tackling it is not going to be popular, and that’s —\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because rates will go up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because rates will go up. Now, let me let me say, you know, the devil’s advocate side of this. People’s rates going up maybe 20, 30% kind of across the state would mean paying a couple hundred dollars more a year for insurance. I don’t want to pay more. Like, I like having my insurance. You know, pretty reasonable. We should say, insurance in California cost quite a bit less than in other states with similar climate liabilities. I don’t want to pay more for insurance, but I also want to be able to sell my house.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right or buy a house. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s not the end of the world necessarily to pay a little bit more for insurance. It’s the end of the world if the insurance market continues to weaken and someday collapses. And the the path that we’re on right now, well I mean we are headed towards that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How much could the governor do with an executive order or Ricardo Lara as insurance commissioner due unilaterally? I mean, to what extent can they address the problem on their own.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Through executive order, I don’t think the governor can do much. In September, he did issue an executive order asking for Ricardo Lara to take quick action on trying to stabilize the market. And two hours later, Ricardo Lara \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Almost as if they orchestrated the whole thing together!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Announced these big sets of changes. And some of these some of the things that he said would be considered are stuff that the insurance industry definitely wants. Like they want to be able to use catastrophic models, not just historical modeling. He said that they’d hire more staff to consider rate increases faster. But the big, you know, a big concession that he got from the insurance industry, which which shouldn’t be overlooked is that the insurance companies guaranteed that they would write, that they would cover 85% of homeowners in wildfire prone areas. These are the areas that insurance companies have been have been leaving kind of they’re sort of cherry picking who they want to insure so that they don’t have too much risk. And and that would be, you know, if 85% of homeowners can get good, fair market coverage in wildfire prone areas, that would take some of the risk off the public, sort of the public option. And, you know, that could be very good for stabilizing the market.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you’re just joining us, you’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio. I’m Marisa Lagos, here with Scott Shafer. We are talking with KQED science reporter Danielle Venton. We’re talking climate change, housing and insurance. All right. So the insurance commissioner is going down this regulatory route, not with a change in the law. Right? They’re trying to sort of restructure within the confines of Prop 103\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Basically rewrite the rules of 103.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The interpretation of 103. Which is controversial. Let’s talk about the pushback they’ve received. I know consumer watchdog you mentioned at the top is one of the biggest interveners. They’re one of the biggest groups in the state. They have reacted pretty angrily, I would say, to some of this. You know, we also saw a lot of pushback when there was an attempt in the legislature this summer to do some of this legislatively. And we’ve seen a bunch of members of Congress come out against it. What are they objecting to?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, the if I just to say it bluntly, I think they want the past to still be the present. You know, they they there is a huge concern about rates going up. But it seems hard to figure out how you really fix this problem without rates going up. You can’t. You can’t wildfire safety your way out of the crisis we’re in right now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So in other words, you’re saying it’s going to take some political courage. We’ve got an insurance commissioner who just got reelected. And I don’t know if there are term limits for insurance commissioner, but, you know, he’s not going to face the voters in any case until 2026. You’d think that would maybe help him get a stronger spine. Newsom can’t run for governor again, but he’s\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And we should say Lara’s been on the show. We’ve asked him about this. He’s gotten a lot of heat since he got elected in 2018 for essentially reneging on a campaign promise. He said he would take no money from insurance companies. Public campaign filings show that he has. He also got some heat for hanging out with insurance lobbyists and things like that. So, I mean, there’s some distrust here, right, with the consumer advocates and other folks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And some justification for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, absolutely. But I have spoken with consumer advocates and in fact, John Garamendi, the congressman who penned the letter that was signed by by many, you know, a large portion of the congressional California congressional delegation.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Former insurance commissioner himself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. And I was and he wrote this letter to Lara that said, you know, we we’re concerned with the steps that you’re taking and think that you should use your powers to to to take a closer look at basically the books of individual insurance companies. And I, I spoke with him yesterday. I really tried to push on, how do you think that more data is going to help him better regulate these companies? Don’t these companies kind of know their own bottom line and they’re deciding to leave? Seven of the top 12 insurance companies have left or are pulling back from the state. And I could not get a clear answer. It was a little bit bewildering. And unfortunately, he got pretty frustrated with me. I don’t understand. They don’t seem to make a concession that that interest the insurance industry regulation structure actually needs to change.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, we’re right in this moment where Newsom, the legislature, is very much in a yimby phase. You know, let’s build more housing. And I’m wondering, how does this problem of people not being able to get insurance in some parts of the state, how does that bump up against those priorities?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, my goodness. This is an enormous problem. You know, developers, people who are going to build homes, they’re one of the people who want to buy insurance. If they can’t get insurance, they’re not going to build those homes. And that really threatens everything the state is trying to do to become more affordable, more equitable. I mean, housing is a problem that affects all other areas of of the state.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What do we know about, you know, to Garamendi’s concerns and those of some of the consumer groups, like what do we know about insurance companies’ bottom lines? Like what do they have to tell us, you know, how much they make or tell Wall Street or whatever year after year?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, we do get to we could do good indications of that. Insurance companies say that the catastrophic fires you fire years of 2017 and 2018 wiped out the previous 20 years of profits. I also spoke with an insurance industry analyst from the R Street Institute, and he says, you know, he his name is his last name is Theodorou. And he, you know, gives congressional testimony all the time and and is, you know, kind of a go to expert. People often ask him, hey, is the insurance industry just super greedy? And he went back and looked over a number of decades and found that while the S&P 500 over the last couple decades has gone up an average of 14% a year, insurance company profits, insurance companies make about 4% a year. You know, so. So they’re not making money hand over fist, like.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They could still be greedy, but that’s, that’s a judgment call.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How much is enough? Yeah. But, you know, other states, of course, face similar climate change problems. Florida hurricanes, tornadoes, floods. You know, why are insurance companies not fleeing those states? Is it that the rate structure is just completely different and more beneficial to them?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, I mean, one thing to say is that people do pay more in other states like Louisiana, Texas, Florida that have big climate risks. Insurance companies are leaving Florida. Florida has enormous problems. They have really \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Them for the debate tonight. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, exactly. You know, they’re their version of sort of the what California has is a fair plan is like the insurer of last resort. Florida has a citizens insurance and it has its really undercapitalized, very shaky, enormous problems. So, you know, overall, there are some unique problems to California. But climate change is really upending the whole insurance industry model as we know it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So we have, on the one hand, the insurance commissioner rewriting these regulations. They will become public. There will be feedback. We will all hear the outcry, whatever they are. On the other hand, as I mentioned, the legislature tried and failed to get something over the finish line in the last few minutes. Like do you expect that to come back legislatively next year? And what what would they be tackling? Because as we know, a ballot measure has got to go back to the voters if you want to change them significantly.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I think what’s on the table right now are just tweaks within the realm of, you know, Prop 103 and the idea of voters approving something that opponents can say, hey, this is going to make your rates skyrocket. I mean, it just seems like a just like\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Far cry? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, we started off this segment talking about Jason Majors, the man you met up in Santa Rosa, having a hard time selling his house because they can’t get insurance. I’m wondering, you know, to what extent, you know, can this be addressed by like communities deciding. Because there’s a line in your podcast about, you know, any home is only as safe as the least safe neighbor. So to what extent like do would it be helpful to have like a policy within a county or a neighborhood? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right something the government can help\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. To enforce and say, hey, you’ve got to make this less fire prone.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It would be enormously helpful. One of the most promising solutions I learned about in reporting from my podcast was spearheaded by the by the climate officer of Sonoma County, and she was trying to hammer out this plan where a neighborhood where people are having a lot of trouble getting insurance would all meet a certain level of fire safety, and in exchange they would basically be guaranteed from insurance companies reliable, affordable insurance if certain standards were maintained. I think that’s a that’s a potentially promising model. It was getting off the ground. And then, you know, Allstate and State Farm all began leaving and it just put the whole thing on ice. There’s other ideas, too, of, you know, looking at kind of landscape level safety with bringing in insurance companies, fire authorities. That really kind of needs to be in addition to some increase of rates. Community level safety really needs to be the way of the future. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Danielle Venton, she contributed to the podcast Sold Out: Rethinking Housing in America. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you so much for coming in.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thanks Danielle.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thank you.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That’s going to do it for this edition of Political Breakdown. We’re a production of KQED Public Radio.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Our engineer today is Christopher Beale. Our producer is Izzy Bloom. I’m Scott Shafer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I’m Marisa Lagos. You can also find this podcast wherever you find your podcasts. We’ll see you next time. Hope insurance is sexy now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n",
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For some reason, he’s in Georgia debating Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Follow the bouncing ball.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So what are they running for?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, exactly. Well, of course, DeSantis is trying to run for president. He’s have been struggling. Newsom insists he’s not running for president and he’s not.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Insists insists insists insists\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, he has subzero interest in that. But, he of course, has been raising his national profile, international profile, really with a trip to China and Israel. And so, yeah, he’s he’s been egging on, he’s been trolling DeSantis, along with Texas Governor Greg Abbott for months now. And they finally agreed to debate tonight on Fox with Sean Hannity, who apparently is buddies with Gavin Newsom now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bromance, I believe, is the correct \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. Bromance\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bromance, frenemies? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah it’s a lot of testosterone I think in the room. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Hey I went back and found the tweet where Newsom originally challenged Santos to this debate. It includes lines like, “clearly you’re struggling, distracted and busy playing politics with people’s lives. I’ll bring my hair gel. You bring your hairspray.” So can we expect to that level of intellectualism do you think at this debate? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I hope not. I mean, there are some very substantive differences between these guys and between California and Florida. You did a lot of reporting, Marisa, on Covid policy and how differently California and Florida dealt with it. Now, there’s also things that Newsom’s going to have to defend, like all the homeless in San, homelessness in California.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Although there’s homelessness in Florida, too. Nobody talks about it. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, there there is for sure. But like all these things, it’s like they’re each going to come armed with their data. And we know that Governor Newsom loves data. He loves studies and statistics. And you can kind of get lost in that. It’s not necessarily the kind of thing that wins over an audience. And I think ultimately it’s really going to be what impression do people take away from these, you know, this confrontation? I don’t think anybody’s going to remember this, the substance of their the details of what they talked about. But it’s like, you know, DeSantis has not been the most likable on the campaign trail. A lot of people don’t like Gavin Newsom. But nonetheless, you know, he beat back a recall. And, you know, this isn’t really his audience. It’s Fox News. It’s not his base.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But he loves that because he watches Fox News all the time, as we said. I mean, he’s been on with Hannity several times. They like to spar. He showed up at the GOP presidential debate to be in the spin room. I think it’s going to be fascinating to see. Hannity is promised to sort of like not do a lot, just kind of let them go at it. So we’ll see how that works out. That could be bad if they’re just like crosstalk over each other. But yeah, I think to your point, I mean, one of the analysts I spoke with about this is Selena Zito. She writes for The Washington Examiner and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. And she was like, you know, this is a rare debate where they could actually both kind of win in the sense that, like, they’re not talking to the same audiences. So I think as long as it doesn’t feel like a routing on either side, I think they both might sort of be able to sort of claim victory. And, you know, in Newsome’s case, as someone else pointed out to me, he gets to talk to an audience that he doesn’t always and that in itself is a win for him because he is trying to spread the good word of Gavin Newsom far and wide. For whenever he runs.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think he gets points as Pete Buttigieg does when he goes on Fox just for being there, because it is known as a kind of a very hostile to Democrats kind of environment. And so, you know, we’ll see how that goes. And, you know, Marissa, you and I saw him up close debating Brian Dahle in the gubernatorial election last year.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Saw? We moderated it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We moderated it. Yeah, we did. And, you know, we remember, I think, how aggressive Newsom was in that debate\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Better than I expected, honestly.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Better and more aggressive than I thought he would be. I’m using that hand thing that he does and Bill Clinton does. Sorry. But yeah, so I think we’ll expect I would expect to see more of that tonight. And what I hope is that it’s not just a bunch of screaming over each other that people actually get to hear what they’re saying.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, like makes a case. Why is your six week abortion ban better than California’s very, you know, liberal, so to speak, abortion, like, let’s get into it. Why the Don’t Say Gay versus like the way that we’ve handled LGBT rights here? I mean, these are serious issues that impact people’s lives. And, you know, this is an opportunity. We’ll have to see. All right. Before we go to a break, Scott, big news dropped just before the Thanksgiving holiday. The assembly speaker, Robert Rivas, who just took over, is has named a bunch of new committee assignments. This is the game of musical chairs, kingmaker himself. What do we know?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, well, you know, as the expression goes, to the winner go the spoils. And so he’s getting to reward some of his big allies and some of the bigger moves that he made. Assemblymember Cecilia Aguiar-Curry from Davis is going to be replacing Isaac Bryan, who was sort of Rivas’s top lieutenant in that contentious, you know, very long battle, very contentious battle that split the caucus to who would who was going to replace Anthony Rendon as the speaker. Bryan now takes over natural resources. And then Buffy Wicks here in the Bay Area gets a really plum assignment. She’ll be chair of a proposed appropriations. And, you know, both that and the Budget Committee, which is now going to be chaired by Jesse Gabriel, taking over from Phil Ting. Those are the real two, the real juice committees. And then just real quick, another change. You know, public safety, fentanyl has become a big issue and there’s going to be a change in the chair of that public safety committee, Reggie Jones Sawyer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">No surprise there. I mean, he is running in L.A. for a local office. He had gotten a lot of flak. I mean, I don’t I think he had told me that he was he knew he would be replaced, essentially. And he and he was happy about it because he’s going to be running for this local office.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Although, he’s being replaced by a guy running for mayor of Sacramento. Kevin McCarty. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right so it’s not like you can’t walk and chew gum. I mean, look, all of these are pretty progressive Democrats. Still. There are going to be some differences. I think there’s some cheering of the NIMBY sort that this idea that the sort of further strengthens, because I, I don’t think you can say that there a bunch of NIMBYs in charge before. To your point, Buffy Wicks, one of Rivas’s sort of top lieutenants in the speaker battle, getting that plum position although you know that also means you’re going to have to be the bad guy when it or bad lady when it comes time.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">She’s up for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah, I think she is. And I think that it I mean, it’s just I think these are the kinds of things that you’re like, okay, noted. You know, I think Isaac Bryan and him had kind of clashed because he had some, you know, designs on the leadership post as well. Yeah. But a lot of this is going to we’re going to have to wait and see what it actually means, you know?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. And I think the one one thing that is being noticed is that with Isaac Bryan leaving as sort of that inner circle for the speaker, there are now no Black members of the assembly who are really going to be among the top lieutenants for the new speaker. And there’s some consternation about that, although, you know, if you look at all the committee chairs, you know, it is a diverse group of folks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it is interesting, I mean, because we’re also this is the first time in a very long time we don’t have a speaker from either L.A. or kind of Central Bay Area. Yeah. Rivas from Salinas is a much more sort of rural, different, just different vibe. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think it’s yeah, I think those are parts of California that never really feel represented in Sacramento, whether it’s the Central Valley or the Central Coast. So yeah, I think it’ll be very interesting and he seems to be uniting the caucus in a way that it certainly wasn’t, you know, by the end of last summer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’ll see.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, you will see.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All right. We’re going to take a short break. When we come back, KQED science reporter Danielle Venton will join us to talk about her deep dive into the troubled home insurance market in California. You’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Welcome back to Political Breakdown. I’m Marisa Lagos here with Scott Shafer. We are thrilled to have on the show today Danielle Venton. She is a science reporter here at KQED and was part of the team who just put out a new season of the podcast, Sold Out: Rethinking Housing in America. This season is a six part look at the intersection of housing and climate change crises. Danielle, thanks for being here.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Thanks so much for having me.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">All right. Well, we want to get into the politics on what’s happening here, but I thought we’d start with the way you open your episode of the show, which is the story of a Santa Rosa man, Jason Majors. Tell us a little bit about what happened to him and kind of why you used him as a central character in this whole narrative.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, I mean, I thought he typified the insurance crisis in sort of an unexpected way. So he until recently lived in northwest Santa Rosa in a very fire prone area, steep canyons, thick forests, lots of lots of overgrown brush, and survived about half a dozen fires in about the last seven years. He survived the Tubbs, the Kincade, the Walbridge, the Hennessy and the Glass fires and his home —\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And his home’s standing? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And his home is still standing. But he’s had his insurance canceled about as many times. When I spoke to him this summer, he still had insurance, but he was trying to sell his home because unfortunately, he’s getting a divorce and that’s part of the deal.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Just so we understand, like did he survive all those fires by dumb luck or did he do things to make it more defensible?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He’s worked on his property a lot.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He takes it real seriously.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. Yeah. He spends days clearing brush. He has a, you know, a roof that is ready for fires that has mesh over the vents. I mean, he he does all the things he can to be prepared for fires. But he had a terrible, terribly hard time trying to sell his property. He had to drop the price four times before he found a buyer. And one of the things his agent told him was that prospective buyers liked the house. They liked the area, but they couldn’t get insurance, at least insurance that they were happy with. And so it really it was eroding into his personal wealth and, you know, the money that he’d have to use to start this new phase of life.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So this is, I mean, people I’m not going to lie Danielle, sometimes people get a little bored talking about insurance. Right. So, I mean, can you just kind of explain to us like what is the state of play here in California? When we talk about the insurance market, who are the key players when it comes to regulators, advocates? Like, how does the process work? I mean, obviously, we know as consumers, you buy a house, you got to get an insured. If you have a mortgage, you want to get it insured anyway because you don’t want something to happen. But like, how is what I pay regulated by the state? How does that all play out? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Absolutely. I mean, I think people think that insurance is boring. But I think it’s fascinating because it is our first line of defense against climate change for for most of us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And it’s basically betting. I mean, right? It’s gambling.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, totally. And it’s the it’s the thing that guarantees that, you know, if something bad happens to you, it doesn’t ruin your future life. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, at the same time, it’s like one of the few things you buy that you hope you never use.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">True. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and the less often you have to use it, the healthier the whole market is. And people are using insurance too often right now. And that’s the source of the big problem. So, you know, what’s what’s the who are the players here? You have insurance companies who are, you know, placing bets basically with with their consumers about, you know, how risky their property is. You have the insurance commissioner, Ricardo Lara, who regulates the industry in the state. And then you have different consumer advocate groups who are trying to trying to look out for customers.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So let’s dig into one of those, and that’s the insurance commissioner. That position was created by the voters in 1988, Proposition 103. And at that time, the big issue was auto insurance. Obviously, a lot has changed since then. So, you know, as we’re talking now about home insurance, but what else is on his plate and how much power does he, Ricardo Lara, have to address this problem?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, Prop 103 in 1988 made that an elected position. It had been appointed by the governor prior to that. So it affected car insurance, italso affected home insurance, business insurance. And he has a lot of power to determine how companies can do business, do business in the state. People have different interpretations of how well he’s using that power, whether whether he is, you know, whether Prop 103 has been, whether the rules have been kind of written to strictly, you know, above and beyond the letter of the law.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Can you tell us, like, what were the basics of 103? Like, what was besides creating this elected, you know, position? Like what what does it say?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I would assume the idea of that was to insulate that person from what, politics? To make them independent, which is kind of ironic because they’re elected now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, and now you could argue that it’s more subjected to populist winds because it is an elected position. So in the late ‘80s, car insurance in California was just increasing hand over fist. I mean, it was it was absurd. And so Prop 103 to start with, told insurance companies that they had to decrease their rates by 20%. But also that they couldn’t predict into the future how bad they thought risk was going to be. They had to use historical data to price risk. And that they couldn’t increase rates to much above about 7% without getting together all these documents, all this data going to the state and saying, hey, we want to raise our rates, you know, more than 7%. This is why you should let us. And the state would then take a look at that and say, yes you can, or no you can’t.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So created similar regulation to what we have in the electricity market, for example. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, right. And then it also created a opportunity for the public to get involved and challenge those rate increases. And if if members of the public wanted to do that, they could apply for the costs of doing that to be to be reimbursed. And some consumer advocates like Consumer Watchdog have made about $10 Million over the last decade not made, but they have been reimbursed millions of dollars for their work in challenging rate increases.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, it’s hard to understand how auto insurance could suddenly be going up, up, up, up. Like people are becoming worse drivers. But in the case of\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean maybe they were.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, maybe they were. But like not to justify those kind of rate increases that trigger this, but with, in this case, climate change and wildfires are, in fact making it more expensive for insurance companies and homeowners to survive. And so they have a better case to make, don’t they, that maybe their rates should be based on something else that’s really reflects the conditions.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because things are changing, right? To your point about projections versus reflections, yeah. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think everyone who’s lived through the last seven years in this state realized that realizes that the risk that we thought existed ten years ago is not the risk that we have today. If you grant that, then I think it’s reasonable to, you know, to accept that maybe we need to pay more for that risk to be insured. Insurance companies want to be able to look into the future. And so they’re called catastrophic models, catastrophe modeling. Which would, which incorporate climate change models and local conditions into kind of predicting how much a place is at risk of fire or floods.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. So I guess, like what do you see as the politics here? Because it strikes me that an insurance commissioner, Ricardo Lara, needs to tackle this, but there’s also not a lot of like people like you don’t want to be the person overseeing huge increases in the market. Like, how do you see this kind of right now? It seems like nobody has really wanted to tackle it head on from the governor on down to the legislature and insurance commissioner. Do you think that’s fair?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I think that’s fair. I think tackling it is not going to be popular, and that’s —\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because rates will go up.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Because rates will go up. Now, let me let me say, you know, the devil’s advocate side of this. People’s rates going up maybe 20, 30% kind of across the state would mean paying a couple hundred dollars more a year for insurance. I don’t want to pay more. Like, I like having my insurance. You know, pretty reasonable. We should say, insurance in California cost quite a bit less than in other states with similar climate liabilities. I don’t want to pay more for insurance, but I also want to be able to sell my house.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right or buy a house. \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s not the end of the world necessarily to pay a little bit more for insurance. It’s the end of the world if the insurance market continues to weaken and someday collapses. And the the path that we’re on right now, well I mean we are headed towards that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How much could the governor do with an executive order or Ricardo Lara as insurance commissioner due unilaterally? I mean, to what extent can they address the problem on their own.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Through executive order, I don’t think the governor can do much. In September, he did issue an executive order asking for Ricardo Lara to take quick action on trying to stabilize the market. And two hours later, Ricardo Lara \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Almost as if they orchestrated the whole thing together!\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Announced these big sets of changes. And some of these some of the things that he said would be considered are stuff that the insurance industry definitely wants. Like they want to be able to use catastrophic models, not just historical modeling. He said that they’d hire more staff to consider rate increases faster. But the big, you know, a big concession that he got from the insurance industry, which which shouldn’t be overlooked is that the insurance companies guaranteed that they would write, that they would cover 85% of homeowners in wildfire prone areas. These are the areas that insurance companies have been have been leaving kind of they’re sort of cherry picking who they want to insure so that they don’t have too much risk. And and that would be, you know, if 85% of homeowners can get good, fair market coverage in wildfire prone areas, that would take some of the risk off the public, sort of the public option. And, you know, that could be very good for stabilizing the market.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If you’re just joining us, you’re listening to Political Breakdown from KQED Public Radio. I’m Marisa Lagos, here with Scott Shafer. We are talking with KQED science reporter Danielle Venton. We’re talking climate change, housing and insurance. All right. So the insurance commissioner is going down this regulatory route, not with a change in the law. Right? They’re trying to sort of restructure within the confines of Prop 103\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Basically rewrite the rules of 103.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The interpretation of 103. Which is controversial. Let’s talk about the pushback they’ve received. I know consumer watchdog you mentioned at the top is one of the biggest interveners. They’re one of the biggest groups in the state. They have reacted pretty angrily, I would say, to some of this. You know, we also saw a lot of pushback when there was an attempt in the legislature this summer to do some of this legislatively. And we’ve seen a bunch of members of Congress come out against it. What are they objecting to?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, the if I just to say it bluntly, I think they want the past to still be the present. You know, they they there is a huge concern about rates going up. But it seems hard to figure out how you really fix this problem without rates going up. You can’t. You can’t wildfire safety your way out of the crisis we’re in right now.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">So in other words, you’re saying it’s going to take some political courage. We’ve got an insurance commissioner who just got reelected. And I don’t know if there are term limits for insurance commissioner, but, you know, he’s not going to face the voters in any case until 2026. You’d think that would maybe help him get a stronger spine. Newsom can’t run for governor again, but he’s\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And we should say Lara’s been on the show. We’ve asked him about this. He’s gotten a lot of heat since he got elected in 2018 for essentially reneging on a campaign promise. He said he would take no money from insurance companies. Public campaign filings show that he has. He also got some heat for hanging out with insurance lobbyists and things like that. So, I mean, there’s some distrust here, right, with the consumer advocates and other folks.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And some justification for that.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah, absolutely. But I have spoken with consumer advocates and in fact, John Garamendi, the congressman who penned the letter that was signed by by many, you know, a large portion of the congressional California congressional delegation.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Former insurance commissioner himself.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yeah. And I was and he wrote this letter to Lara that said, you know, we we’re concerned with the steps that you’re taking and think that you should use your powers to to to take a closer look at basically the books of individual insurance companies. And I, I spoke with him yesterday. I really tried to push on, how do you think that more data is going to help him better regulate these companies? Don’t these companies kind of know their own bottom line and they’re deciding to leave? Seven of the top 12 insurance companies have left or are pulling back from the state. And I could not get a clear answer. It was a little bit bewildering. And unfortunately, he got pretty frustrated with me. I don’t understand. They don’t seem to make a concession that that interest the insurance industry regulation structure actually needs to change.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">You know, we’re right in this moment where Newsom, the legislature, is very much in a yimby phase. You know, let’s build more housing. And I’m wondering, how does this problem of people not being able to get insurance in some parts of the state, how does that bump up against those priorities?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Oh, my goodness. This is an enormous problem. You know, developers, people who are going to build homes, they’re one of the people who want to buy insurance. If they can’t get insurance, they’re not going to build those homes. And that really threatens everything the state is trying to do to become more affordable, more equitable. I mean, housing is a problem that affects all other areas of of the state.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">What do we know about, you know, to Garamendi’s concerns and those of some of the consumer groups, like what do we know about insurance companies’ bottom lines? Like what do they have to tell us, you know, how much they make or tell Wall Street or whatever year after year?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, we do get to we could do good indications of that. Insurance companies say that the catastrophic fires you fire years of 2017 and 2018 wiped out the previous 20 years of profits. I also spoke with an insurance industry analyst from the R Street Institute, and he says, you know, he his name is his last name is Theodorou. And he, you know, gives congressional testimony all the time and and is, you know, kind of a go to expert. People often ask him, hey, is the insurance industry just super greedy? And he went back and looked over a number of decades and found that while the S&P 500 over the last couple decades has gone up an average of 14% a year, insurance company profits, insurance companies make about 4% a year. You know, so. So they’re not making money hand over fist, like.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">They could still be greedy, but that’s, that’s a judgment call.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Scott Shafer: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">How much is enough? Yeah. But, you know, other states, of course, face similar climate change problems. Florida hurricanes, tornadoes, floods. You know, why are insurance companies not fleeing those states? Is it that the rate structure is just completely different and more beneficial to them?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Danielle Venton: \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Well, I mean, one thing to say is that people do pay more in other states like Louisiana, Texas, Florida that have big climate risks. Insurance companies are leaving Florida. Florida has enormous problems. 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One of the most promising solutions I learned about in reporting from my podcast was spearheaded by the by the climate officer of Sonoma County, and she was trying to hammer out this plan where a neighborhood where people are having a lot of trouble getting insurance would all meet a certain level of fire safety, and in exchange they would basically be guaranteed from insurance companies reliable, affordable insurance if certain standards were maintained. I think that’s a that’s a potentially promising model. It was getting off the ground. And then, you know, Allstate and State Farm all began leaving and it just put the whole thing on ice. There’s other ideas, too, of, you know, looking at kind of landscape level safety with bringing in insurance companies, fire authorities. That really kind of needs to be in addition to some increase of rates. 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He’s also run TV ads in Florida and Washington, D.C., attacking Florida’s new abortion law, which would ban abortions after six weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in September, he showed up in the spin room at the GOP presidential debate in Simi Valley, California to spar with Sean Hannity on Hannity’s Fox News show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[pullquote size=\"medium\" align=\"right\" citation=\"Salena Zito, national political reporter, Washington Examiner\"]‘Both men are the future of their parties. Both men run prosperous, successful states. … They could both walk out of this and both gain support.’[/pullquote]“He’s become the face of the loyal opposition,” said Democratic political strategist Dane Strother, who works on races across the country. “When he went to the Republican debate, he was, in essence, the Democratic response.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Strother is an outspoken fan of Newsom who predicts that the California governor “will be president. 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That was a man who waited in the wings for a very long time,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the Republican side, DeSantis is also positioning himself as the standard bearer of conservative values — the mirror image of Newsom on issues like abortion and LGBTQ rights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That means at this matchup — unlike most presidential debates — both could come out as winners, said Salena Zito, a national political reporter at the conservative Washington Examiner and columnist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think it’s smart for both Newsom and DeSantis to do this debate. It’s in the spirit of the Lincoln-Douglas debates,” she said, which took place when both men were competing not for the presidency but for the U.S. Senate. “Both men are the future of their parties. 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