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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">\u003ci>View the full episode transcript.\u003c/i>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/san-francisco\">San Francisco\u003c/a> is widely considered \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/CITY-OF-HILLS-With-50-plus-hills-it-s-no-2676064.php\">one of the hilliest cities in the world.\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003cbr>\nBut all this elevation gain comes with a price: stairs. The city boasts more than \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/201107221000/urban-stairs-of-the-bay-area\">900 public stairways\u003c/a> — everything from winding wooden paths to mosaiced climbs. It’s a charming urban feature that’s given rise to a community of stair enthusiasts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week’s question asker, George Krause, is one of many San Francisco stair admirers. He’s a photographer, and he stumbled upon the stairways during his work trips to the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Between shoots in San Francisco … [I’d] ride public transportation to a neighborhood that I had not been to before, and then just walk the streets with my camera doing street photography,” Krause said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Every neighborhood in San Francisco has got these hidden stairway walks, Castro and Potrero Hill and Excelsior and you name it … they’re everywhere. So it’s like a free, fun thing to do.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053514\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0008_GH-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053514\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0008_GH-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0008_GH-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0008_GH-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0008_GH-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The twists and turns of Oakhurst Lane snake up the hillside, offering one of San Francisco’s longest and most hidden climbs on July 30, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>All this got him wondering. What’s the shortest stairway in San Francisco? What’s the longest? What’s the steepest?\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The Shortest Stairway\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>When it comes to measuring the city’s stairways, there’s a lot more debate than data. I sat down with one of the city’s leading stair enthusiasts, Alexandra Kenin, to try to get to the bottom of it all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kenin claims to have walked 99.99% of all the city’s stairs. She’s also compiled a \u003ca href=\"https://www.urbanhikersf.com/sfstairmap\">digital stairway map.\u003c/a>[aside postID=news_11907457 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/garden-from-above-1020x574.jpeg']According to Kenin, San Francisco’s shortest stair is a single step in the city’s Financial District. It’s on Sansome Street, between Broadway and Pacific.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s literally railings like you would have on a multi-step stairway, yet there is just one stair,” Kenin said. “So it kind of looks like a stairway, because there’s stairway infrastructure.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people would not call this one step a stairway; others would swear that it is. San Francisco Public Works, which maintains public rights of way, including stairs, offers an alternative. They list the city’s shortest stair as a five-stepper at \u003ca href=\"https://maps.app.goo.gl/yTWf4T9d8a7XXxHD6\">14th Avenue and Fanning Way.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The Longest Stairway\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you ask most San Franciscans to name the city’s longest stairway, they’ll probably point you towards \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11907457/how-the-filbert-steps-came-to-be-an-oasis-in-san-francisco\">the famous Filbert or Greenwich steps\u003c/a>. Located in the Telegraph Hill neighborhood, they both offer scenic climbs up to Coit Tower.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there’s a catch: those stairways are broken up by roads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053513\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0005_GH-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053513\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0005_GH-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0005_GH-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0005_GH-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0005_GH-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alex Kenin pauses at the top of Oakhurst Lane, the longest staircase in San Francisco, on July 30, 2025. The staircase winds through the Forest Knolls neighborhood. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“So we should debate, is it the longest continuous stairway?” Kenin queried. Or is it the most total steps?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Public Works, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfstairways.com/stairways/oakhurst-lane/\">Oakhurst Lane stairs\u003c/a> are actually the longest. They’re on the sloping hillside of Mount Sutro near Laguna Honda Hospital. Unlike the Telegraph Hill steps, Oakhurst Lane is uninterrupted — a steady climb that amounts to an estimated 290 feet. That’s roughly 10 feet higher than the Filbert and Greenwich steps.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The Steepest Stairway\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Nailing down San Francisco’s steepest staircase is even trickier. Public works doesn’t track the steepest stairways, and it’s hard to pull together accurate data about the city’s stairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But based on some Geographic Information System (GIS) mapping endeavors and Kenin’s real-life experience, here are a few top contenders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The Filbert Street Steps:\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nThese steps are scenic and punishing, climbing through lush gardens up Telegraph Hill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11907460\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11907460\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized.jpg\" alt=\"A man in a red t-shirt, sunglasses and backpack poses on a set of wooden steps with a lush garden to his right.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bay Curious listener Eric Johnson poses on the Filbert steps. \u003ccite>(Katrina Schwartz/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The Normandie Terrace Steps:\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nThis little-known but dizzying flight of stairs connects one street to a cul-de-sac far above.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056079\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0015_GH-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056079\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0015_GH-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0015_GH-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0015_GH-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0015_GH-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stairs connect Vallejo Street between Divisadero and Scott streets to the north end of Normandie Terrace in San Francisco’s Pacific Heights neighborhood on Sept. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>22nd Street and Vicksburg Steps:\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nThis block is one of the steepest streets in the city. The grade? An estimated 31.5%. The sidewalk is a stairway.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056076\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0002_GH-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056076\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0002_GH-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0002_GH-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0002_GH-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0002_GH-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A man makes his way up the staircase at 22nd and Vicksburg streets on Sept. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Iron Alley Steps:\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nThis steep stairway is no joke. One stair \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfstairways.com/stairways/iron-alley-clayton-street-to-corbett-avenue/\">database \u003c/a>lists measurements that amount to a 51% grade slope.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056078\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0011_GH-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056078\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0011_GH-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0011_GH-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0011_GH-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0011_GH-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wooden stairs connect Clayton Street near Market Street to Corbett Avenue at Iron Alley in San Francisco’s Upper Market/Twin Peaks neighborhood on Sept. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Why People Love San Francisco’s Stairs\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For Kenin, stairway walks aren’t just about exercise or views. They’re about connecting with the city in a more mindful way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You get a visceral experience,” she said. “It all of a sudden becomes quieter. You can see beauty with your eyes. You might smell a jasmine plant that is blooming in someone’s lawn right next to the stairway. … You could hear a hummingbird float by.”[aside postID=news_11185731 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/2924064112_df11d9e7ec_o-1180x785.jpg']The stairs also offer a link to San Francisco’s history. Back in the day, when people got around on horseback, stairs were a practical pedestrian solution. Some streets were just too steep for horse-drawn carriages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s kind of a cool connection to the past because people have been going up and down these stairways, probably some of them since the 1800s,” Kenin said. “So I like that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re interested in walking some of San Francisco’s most iconic stairs, \u003ca href=\"https://www.urbanhikersf.com/sfstairmap\">check out Kenin’s stairway map to chart out a route of your own.\u003c/a> And, October happens to be \u003ca href=\"https://sanfranciscoparksalliance.org/our-work/programs-events/sf-stairway-month/\">“SF Stairway Month,”\u003c/a> a new thing that started in 2024. So, it’s the perfect time to get out and explore!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz:\u003c/strong> Almost every day when I get home from work I strap on a baby carrier and take my one year old daughter, Esme, out for a walk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz in scene: \u003c/strong>So, Esme and I are walking up the Franconia Street Steps in Bernal Heights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of Esme humming\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz in scene: \u003c/strong>Look at that, Esme, you can see the fog comin’ in. Isn’t it beautiful?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Esme babbling sounds\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>Some of the stairways we take have swings on them. Others are beautifully cared for, with terraced gardens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz in scene: \u003c/strong>Hello. We love your steps, they’re so beautiful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>All have sweeping views.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz in scene: \u003c/strong>Phew, at the top of the hill now\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Esme sounds\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>San Francisco has countless winding pathways like this, from simple wooden stairs to mosaiced climbs and utilitarian concrete steps. It’s incredibly charming and a delightful surprise to many visitors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Krause: \u003c/strong>Every neighborhood in San Francisco has got these hidden stairway watch Castro and Potrero Hill and Excelsior and you name it. You know, there’s, they’re everywhere. So it’s like a free, fun thing to do, you know.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>Our question asker this week, George Krause, is a photographer. He often comes to the city for work and likes to spend time on the stairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Krause: \u003c/strong>When I wasn’t shooting, you know, between shoots in San Francisco. That’s basically what I did — ride public transportation to a neighborhood that I had not been to before, and then just walk the streets with my camera, doing street photography.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>San Francisco is one of the hilliest cities in the world — and stairs are often the most direct way to get from A to B.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All this got George wondering. …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Krause:\u003c/strong> What is the longest stairway in San Francisco? What is the shortest? What is the steepest?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>George’s question won a Bay Curious voting round, so we know many of you are stair-curious too!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, we’re devoting the show to walking San Francisco’s iconic stairways. We’ll meet some stair lovers and see what’s powering their uphill devotion. Then we’ll talk with a map expert to try and answer some basic questions about the city’s stairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m Katrina Schwartz, you’re listening to Bay Curious. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sponsor message\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>With more than 900 public stairways, it’s safe to say that San Francisco is a city of stairs. But when it comes to measuring them, there’s a lot more debate than data. Pinpointing the longest, the shortest, and the steepest stairways turned out to be a bigger challenge than we imagined, but Bay Curious producer Gabriela Glueck was up to the job. 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It’s got step-by-step directions to find hidden stairways, gives background info on neighborhood history and generally celebrates this unique side of San Francisco life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Alex, that book became a lifesaver when the coronavirus pandemic hit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> You know, we were stuck at home, and I was kind of going stir crazy. My partner and I found ourselves juggling a one and a half year old between meetings, and it was really stressful, and we needed a stress release.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>So, she started walking, following Adah’s directions. Her quest? Walk \u003cem>all\u003c/em> of the city’s stairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> You get a visceral experience …It all of a sudden becomes quieter. You can see beauty with your eyes. You might smell a jasmine plant that is blooming in someone’s lawn right next to the stairway. 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Do with that what you will.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Next, the longest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> So I think it’s either the Filbert or Greenwich Street steps going up to Telegraph Hill. …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>The Filbert and Greenwich Street steps are many people’s first guesses. They both offer scenic climbs up to Coit Tower. The lush Filbert Street steps are also home to a famous flock of parrots featured in film, “The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Parrot sounds\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>But — and this is where things started to get even trickier — how do you define “the longest?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin: OK\u003c/strong>, so we should debate, is it the longest continuous stairway? So when you do the Filbert or Greenwich Street steps, you are crossing various roads. So does that count?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>Or is it the most total steps?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> Those two stairways, Greenwich Street steps, Filbert Street steps, are around 380 to 390.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>According to Public Works, the Oakhurst Lane stairs — on Mount Sutro near Laguna Honda Hospital — are actually the longest. That’s because, unlike Filbert and Greenwich, the lane is a continuous stairway; there aren’t roads in the middle breaking it apart.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has fewer total steps, but climbs an estimated 290 feet. Making it the longest continuous stairway in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, Alex and I headed to Mount Sutro to check it out for ourselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> Alright, here we go. We’re climbing the first flight of stairs. We’ve got some concrete steps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of climbing stairs\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> It’s a foggy day. The eucalyptus trees are swaying. It’s a very atmospheric day. And if you take a look, it’s kind of funny. There’s moss growing on the stairs. I’m pretty sure it’s foggy here a lot of the time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>As we make our way up the steps, the city kind of fades away. It feels like an isolated residential path, sandwiched between houses. And, like many San Francisco stairs, it’s cared for by community members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Rick:\u003c/strong> I’m just clipping the poison oak so people can walk up and down Oakhurst Lane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>This is Rick, Alex and I ran into him on our walk. He lives in the neighborhood and has been walking the lane for 30 years. 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I can find 10 articles on the internet right now telling me different streets are the steepest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>There are a lot of close contenders and not a lot of accurate measuring going on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I asked Public Works about the steepest stairway, one representative said that quote, “We don’t track the steepest but likely will capture that in a longer-term asset management initiative.” Translation: they don’t know.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But this seemed like the kind of problem you could answer, if only you had a digital mapping specialist in your corner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Medeiros: \u003c/strong>OK, the analysis question that I’m trying to answer is, which San Francisco City staircase is the steepest?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>David Medeiros is a geospatial reference and instruction specialist at Stanford. Basically, a map expert.Which is why I sent him a city data set dedicated to structures in the public right-of-way, including stairs. Then I asked him for help.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Medeiros: \u003c/strong>So, from a technical standpoint, the process is not difficult. So, you just need one other piece of data, and that’s an elevation model for the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>David’s plan? Take a map of all the stairs and overlay it on a map of the city’s peaks and valleys and boom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Medeiros: \u003c/strong>OK, I have QGIS open, and I’m going to add the data sets now. … I’m going to bring in the 1-meter digital elevation model for San Francisco. \u003cem>(Fades under)\u003c/em> First, I’m going to go grab the SF stairs, or the stairs structures, line features and overlay them on the digital elevation model.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>I’m fast forwarding here, but once he’s got the two maps, it’s a simple slope calculation. Rise over run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Medeiros: \u003c/strong>So now I have a list or a table of the slope, the percent slopes for all of these things that the city has in this structures data set, that includes stairs and viaducts and retaining walls and that sort of stuff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> And what is the steepest stair? What did you find?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>If you thought this was gonna be the payoff moment — so did I. But no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As we started looking at our top steep contenders on Google Street View, many of them just didn’t look that steep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Medeiros: \u003c/strong>The more difficult part of it is the data itself. It’s the staircase data is a mess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>David says the lengths weren’t precise enough. That the public right-of-way info is more like a rough sketch. 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Sometimes there’s no substitute for just going to see for yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> So I’m at the first stop on the steepest stair tour, and we are at the Glendale street stairs, and they look pretty, pretty steep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>With the help of David’s data, Alex’s real-world experience, and countless internet searches, I compiled a list of top five \u003cem>potentially\u003c/em> — and I emphasize potentially — steepest stairs in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, I devoted an entire day to \u003cem>walking all of them.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first one? Glendale street stairs in Twin Peaks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> They’re kind of boring. …They’re in between two apartment buildings, and below it is this really steep road.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of walking\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> OK, so I’m at the second stair stop on this steep stairs journey, and I’m at the Normandy terrace stairs in Pacific Heights. They’re very grand, they kind of zigzag up a vertical wall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of walking up steps\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene, out of breath:\u003c/strong> You can see the bay and kind of the whole expanse of the city stretching out before you. And it is a pretty good view. And recommend you\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> All right, I’m walking over to our next stair stop, and it’s 22nd Street and Vicksburg.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>These stairs are in Noe Valley… a small stretch of the 22nd street incline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene: \u003c/strong>So these are pretty amazing. It’s on an extremely steep San Francisco street, and the … basically, the sidewalk is a staircase. They’ve carved out stairs in the concrete because it’s just … it’s just too steep to walk by yourself. So here goes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>This block is one of the steepest streets in the city. The grade? An estimated 31.5%. As local resident Laura tells me, it’s enough to make drivers change their plans. Also, she says it’s a prime spot for shenanigans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura: \u003c/strong>Halloween? 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Some neighborhood gardeners I met on the stairs seemed to agree.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Neighbor: \u003c/strong>Man, you take a tumble, you could be going all the way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>I have to say that defining the longest, shortest, and steepest stairs in San Francisco ended up being a lot harder than I’d imagined.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in some ways, besides the point.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>First stair love note:\u003c/strong> Really, I love stairs because they are a vital part of urban infrastructure, they are beautiful, they are a great workout, they give you a sense of accomplishment when you climb them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Second stair love note: \u003c/strong>It feels like I’m living in a game or story universe where I’m discovering new pieces of the map\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Third stair love note:\u003c/strong> My favorite hike is starting in the Forest Knolls neighborhood. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Between shoots in San Francisco … [I’d] ride public transportation to a neighborhood that I had not been to before, and then just walk the streets with my camera doing street photography,” Krause said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Every neighborhood in San Francisco has got these hidden stairway walks, Castro and Potrero Hill and Excelsior and you name it … they’re everywhere. So it’s like a free, fun thing to do.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053514\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0008_GH-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053514\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0008_GH-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0008_GH-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0008_GH-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0008_GH-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The twists and turns of Oakhurst Lane snake up the hillside, offering one of San Francisco’s longest and most hidden climbs on July 30, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>All this got him wondering. What’s the shortest stairway in San Francisco? What’s the longest? What’s the steepest?\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The Shortest Stairway\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>When it comes to measuring the city’s stairways, there’s a lot more debate than data. I sat down with one of the city’s leading stair enthusiasts, Alexandra Kenin, to try to get to the bottom of it all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kenin claims to have walked 99.99% of all the city’s stairs. She’s also compiled a \u003ca href=\"https://www.urbanhikersf.com/sfstairmap\">digital stairway map.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>According to Kenin, San Francisco’s shortest stair is a single step in the city’s Financial District. It’s on Sansome Street, between Broadway and Pacific.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s literally railings like you would have on a multi-step stairway, yet there is just one stair,” Kenin said. “So it kind of looks like a stairway, because there’s stairway infrastructure.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people would not call this one step a stairway; others would swear that it is. San Francisco Public Works, which maintains public rights of way, including stairs, offers an alternative. They list the city’s shortest stair as a five-stepper at \u003ca href=\"https://maps.app.goo.gl/yTWf4T9d8a7XXxHD6\">14th Avenue and Fanning Way.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The Longest Stairway\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you ask most San Franciscans to name the city’s longest stairway, they’ll probably point you towards \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11907457/how-the-filbert-steps-came-to-be-an-oasis-in-san-francisco\">the famous Filbert or Greenwich steps\u003c/a>. Located in the Telegraph Hill neighborhood, they both offer scenic climbs up to Coit Tower.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there’s a catch: those stairways are broken up by roads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12053513\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0005_GH-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12053513\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0005_GH-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0005_GH-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0005_GH-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250730_BAY-CURIOUS_-STAIRS_-0005_GH-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alex Kenin pauses at the top of Oakhurst Lane, the longest staircase in San Francisco, on July 30, 2025. The staircase winds through the Forest Knolls neighborhood. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“So we should debate, is it the longest continuous stairway?” Kenin queried. Or is it the most total steps?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Public Works, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfstairways.com/stairways/oakhurst-lane/\">Oakhurst Lane stairs\u003c/a> are actually the longest. They’re on the sloping hillside of Mount Sutro near Laguna Honda Hospital. Unlike the Telegraph Hill steps, Oakhurst Lane is uninterrupted — a steady climb that amounts to an estimated 290 feet. That’s roughly 10 feet higher than the Filbert and Greenwich steps.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The Steepest Stairway\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Nailing down San Francisco’s steepest staircase is even trickier. Public works doesn’t track the steepest stairways, and it’s hard to pull together accurate data about the city’s stairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But based on some Geographic Information System (GIS) mapping endeavors and Kenin’s real-life experience, here are a few top contenders.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The Filbert Street Steps:\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nThese steps are scenic and punishing, climbing through lush gardens up Telegraph Hill.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11907460\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11907460\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized.jpg\" alt=\"A man in a red t-shirt, sunglasses and backpack poses on a set of wooden steps with a lush garden to his right.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/03/Eric-Johnson-sized-1536x864.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bay Curious listener Eric Johnson poses on the Filbert steps. \u003ccite>(Katrina Schwartz/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>The Normandie Terrace Steps:\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nThis little-known but dizzying flight of stairs connects one street to a cul-de-sac far above.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056079\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0015_GH-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056079\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0015_GH-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0015_GH-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0015_GH-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0015_GH-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Stairs connect Vallejo Street between Divisadero and Scott streets to the north end of Normandie Terrace in San Francisco’s Pacific Heights neighborhood on Sept. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>22nd Street and Vicksburg Steps:\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nThis block is one of the steepest streets in the city. The grade? An estimated 31.5%. The sidewalk is a stairway.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056076\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0002_GH-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056076\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0002_GH-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0002_GH-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0002_GH-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0002_GH-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A man makes his way up the staircase at 22nd and Vicksburg streets on Sept. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Iron Alley Steps:\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\nThis steep stairway is no joke. One stair \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfstairways.com/stairways/iron-alley-clayton-street-to-corbett-avenue/\">database \u003c/a>lists measurements that amount to a 51% grade slope.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056078\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0011_GH-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056078\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0011_GH-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0011_GH-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0011_GH-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250911_BAY-CURIOUS-STAIRS-0011_GH-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wooden stairs connect Clayton Street near Market Street to Corbett Avenue at Iron Alley in San Francisco’s Upper Market/Twin Peaks neighborhood on Sept. 10, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gustavo Hernandez/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Why People Love San Francisco’s Stairs\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For Kenin, stairway walks aren’t just about exercise or views. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-content post-body\">\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz:\u003c/strong> Almost every day when I get home from work I strap on a baby carrier and take my one year old daughter, Esme, out for a walk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz in scene: \u003c/strong>So, Esme and I are walking up the Franconia Street Steps in Bernal Heights.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of Esme humming\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz in scene: \u003c/strong>Look at that, Esme, you can see the fog comin’ in. Isn’t it beautiful?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Esme babbling sounds\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>Some of the stairways we take have swings on them. Others are beautifully cared for, with terraced gardens.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz in scene: \u003c/strong>Hello. We love your steps, they’re so beautiful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>All have sweeping views.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz in scene: \u003c/strong>Phew, at the top of the hill now\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Esme sounds\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>San Francisco has countless winding pathways like this, from simple wooden stairs to mosaiced climbs and utilitarian concrete steps. It’s incredibly charming and a delightful surprise to many visitors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Krause: \u003c/strong>Every neighborhood in San Francisco has got these hidden stairway watch Castro and Potrero Hill and Excelsior and you name it. You know, there’s, they’re everywhere. So it’s like a free, fun thing to do, you know.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>Our question asker this week, George Krause, is a photographer. He often comes to the city for work and likes to spend time on the stairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Krause: \u003c/strong>When I wasn’t shooting, you know, between shoots in San Francisco. That’s basically what I did — ride public transportation to a neighborhood that I had not been to before, and then just walk the streets with my camera, doing street photography.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>San Francisco is one of the hilliest cities in the world — and stairs are often the most direct way to get from A to B.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All this got George wondering. …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>George Krause:\u003c/strong> What is the longest stairway in San Francisco? What is the shortest? What is the steepest?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>George’s question won a Bay Curious voting round, so we know many of you are stair-curious too!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, we’re devoting the show to walking San Francisco’s iconic stairways. We’ll meet some stair lovers and see what’s powering their uphill devotion. Then we’ll talk with a map expert to try and answer some basic questions about the city’s stairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m Katrina Schwartz, you’re listening to Bay Curious. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sponsor message\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz: \u003c/strong>With more than 900 public stairways, it’s safe to say that San Francisco is a city of stairs. But when it comes to measuring them, there’s a lot more debate than data. Pinpointing the longest, the shortest, and the steepest stairways turned out to be a bigger challenge than we imagined, but Bay Curious producer Gabriela Glueck was up to the job. She met up with one stair fanatic to get some answers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck:\u003c/strong> Alexandra Kenin is a quintessential stair enthusiast. She claims to have hiked 99.99% of all the city’s stairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s an obsession that started back in 2007, when she first moved to San Francisco and started leafing through some guidebooks her dad had given her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> So he gave me, at the time, what was popular, which was a Zagat guide for restaurants, and he gave me Stairway Walks in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>Stairway Walks in San Francisco \u003c/em>was written by Adah Bakalinsky, the so-called Queen of San Francisco’s stairs. It’s got step-by-step directions to find hidden stairways, gives background info on neighborhood history and generally celebrates this unique side of San Francisco life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Alex, that book became a lifesaver when the coronavirus pandemic hit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> You know, we were stuck at home, and I was kind of going stir crazy. My partner and I found ourselves juggling a one and a half year old between meetings, and it was really stressful, and we needed a stress release.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>So, she started walking, following Adah’s directions. Her quest? Walk \u003cem>all\u003c/em> of the city’s stairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> You get a visceral experience …It all of a sudden becomes quieter. You can see beauty with your eyes. You might smell a jasmine plant that is blooming in someone’s lawn right next to the stairway. You could hear a hummingbird float by.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>The stairs also offer a window into the city’s past. Back in the day, when people got around on horseback, stairs were a practical pedestrian solution. Some streets were just too steep for horse-drawn carriages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin: \u003c/strong>And it’s kind of a cool connection to the past, because people have been going up and down these stairways, probably, some of them, since the 1800s, so I like that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>But Alex has also brought stair walking into the 21st century with an online map that features many of Adah’s favorites as well as some new ones. If there’s anyone who can help me figure out the longest, shortest and steepest stairway — it’s Alex.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We’ll start with the shortest. Sansome Street, between Broadway and Pacific\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> There is literally a random one step, which makes me laugh. …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>The Sansome Street step is on the edge of the city’s Financial District, with a nice view of the Transamerica Pyramid in the background. And then, the single stair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin: \u003c/strong>There’s literally railings like you would have on a multi-step stairway, yet there is just one stair. So it kind of looks like a stairway, because there’s stairway infrastructure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> So here I am at the shortest staircase in San Francisco. It is just one step. For the sake of journalism, I’m gonna walk it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sound of taking a step\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>I feel like this is a good place to talk about the definition of a stairway. Some people would \u003cem>not\u003c/em> call this one-step a staircase … others would swear that it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> It really depends on your definition of a stairway. So I didn’t know if I should put that in there, but it is a stair. So I did want to include it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>Many people define a stairway as two or more steps. Alex says there are plenty of two-steppers throughout the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But according to San Francisco Public Works — which maintains public rights of way, including stairs — the shortest stair is a five-stepper at 14th Avenue and Fanning Way. Do with that what you will.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Next, the longest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> So I think it’s either the Filbert or Greenwich Street steps going up to Telegraph Hill. …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>The Filbert and Greenwich Street steps are many people’s first guesses. They both offer scenic climbs up to Coit Tower. The lush Filbert Street steps are also home to a famous flock of parrots featured in film, “The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Parrot sounds\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>But — and this is where things started to get even trickier — how do you define “the longest?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin: OK\u003c/strong>, so we should debate, is it the longest continuous stairway? So when you do the Filbert or Greenwich Street steps, you are crossing various roads. So does that count?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>Or is it the most total steps?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> Those two stairways, Greenwich Street steps, Filbert Street steps, are around 380 to 390.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>According to Public Works, the Oakhurst Lane stairs — on Mount Sutro near Laguna Honda Hospital — are actually the longest. That’s because, unlike Filbert and Greenwich, the lane is a continuous stairway; there aren’t roads in the middle breaking it apart.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It has fewer total steps, but climbs an estimated 290 feet. Making it the longest continuous stairway in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, Alex and I headed to Mount Sutro to check it out for ourselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Alexandra Kenin:\u003c/strong> Alright, here we go. We’re climbing the first flight of stairs. 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I can find 10 articles on the internet right now telling me different streets are the steepest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>There are a lot of close contenders and not a lot of accurate measuring going on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I asked Public Works about the steepest stairway, one representative said that quote, “We don’t track the steepest but likely will capture that in a longer-term asset management initiative.” Translation: they don’t know.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But this seemed like the kind of problem you could answer, if only you had a digital mapping specialist in your corner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Medeiros: \u003c/strong>OK, the analysis question that I’m trying to answer is, which San Francisco City staircase is the steepest?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>David Medeiros is a geospatial reference and instruction specialist at Stanford. Basically, a map expert.Which is why I sent him a city data set dedicated to structures in the public right-of-way, including stairs. Then I asked him for help.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Medeiros: \u003c/strong>So, from a technical standpoint, the process is not difficult. So, you just need one other piece of data, and that’s an elevation model for the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>David’s plan? 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Rise over run.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Medeiros: \u003c/strong>So now I have a list or a table of the slope, the percent slopes for all of these things that the city has in this structures data set, that includes stairs and viaducts and retaining walls and that sort of stuff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> And what is the steepest stair? What did you find?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>If you thought this was gonna be the payoff moment — so did I. But no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As we started looking at our top steep contenders on Google Street View, many of them just didn’t look that steep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Medeiros: \u003c/strong>The more difficult part of it is the data itself. It’s the staircase data is a mess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>David says the lengths weren’t precise enough. That the public right-of-way info is more like a rough sketch. Not the kind of picture you could build a case on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>David Medeiros: \u003c/strong>So I feel like, I feel like I failed a little bit, in a sense, like the all the work that we did, all the information it, the the actual workflow is fine. It works. The underlying elevation data is a good resource. It’s just that we don’t have good data for the stairs, the real stairs, what they really look like in the real world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>According to David, this data-to-real-world gap is a pretty common digital mapping challenge. Sometimes there’s no substitute for just going to see for yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> So I’m at the first stop on the steepest stair tour, and we are at the Glendale street stairs, and they look pretty, pretty steep.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>With the help of David’s data, Alex’s real-world experience, and countless internet searches, I compiled a list of top five \u003cem>potentially\u003c/em> — and I emphasize potentially — steepest stairs in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then, I devoted an entire day to \u003cem>walking all of them.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first one? Glendale street stairs in Twin Peaks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> They’re kind of boring. …They’re in between two apartment buildings, and below it is this really steep road.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of walking\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> OK, so I’m at the second stair stop on this steep stairs journey, and I’m at the Normandy terrace stairs in Pacific Heights. They’re very grand, they kind of zigzag up a vertical wall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of walking up steps\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene, out of breath:\u003c/strong> You can see the bay and kind of the whole expanse of the city stretching out before you. And it is a pretty good view. And recommend you\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> All right, I’m walking over to our next stair stop, and it’s 22nd Street and Vicksburg.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>These stairs are in Noe Valley… a small stretch of the 22nd street incline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene: \u003c/strong>So these are pretty amazing. It’s on an extremely steep San Francisco street, and the … basically, the sidewalk is a staircase. They’ve carved out stairs in the concrete because it’s just … it’s just too steep to walk by yourself. So here goes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>This block is one of the steepest streets in the city. The grade? An estimated 31.5%. As local resident Laura tells me, it’s enough to make drivers change their plans. Also, she says it’s a prime spot for shenanigans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Laura: \u003c/strong>Halloween? People roll pumpkins down the hill. …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene:\u003c/strong> So I’m here at the Iron Alley stairways in the Twin Peaks neighborhood, and this one looks pretty steep, not gonna lie, goes straight down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>Iron Alley is no joke. Averaging numbers from one stair website and my own online mapping endeavors, I’m estimating something around a 46- to-51% grade slope.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck in scene and out of breath: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>1.2.3.4.5.6. …\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>Given the information available and my experience walking them, I think Iron Alley might be the steepest stairway. Some neighborhood gardeners I met on the stairs seemed to agree.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Neighbor: \u003c/strong>Man, you take a tumble, you could be going all the way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gabriela Glueck: \u003c/strong>I have to say that defining the longest, shortest, and steepest stairs in San Francisco ended up being a lot harder than I’d imagined.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in some ways, besides the point.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>First stair love note:\u003c/strong> Really, I love stairs because they are a vital part of urban infrastructure, they are beautiful, they are a great workout, they give you a sense of accomplishment when you climb them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Second stair love note: \u003c/strong>It feels like I’m living in a game or story universe where I’m discovering new pieces of the map\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Third stair love note:\u003c/strong> My favorite hike is starting in the Forest Knolls neighborhood. The stairs are green and floating and surrounded by eucalyptus trees\u003cspan style=\"text-decoration: line-through;\">.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Fourth stair love note:\u003c/strong> they are so beautiful and surprising and mysterious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katrina Schwartz:\u003c/strong> Those were stair love notes from Bay Curious listeners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That story was brought to you by producer Gabriela Glueck. If you were listening closely, you may have noticed that Gabriela said she was going to walk the five steepest stairways, but she only talked about 4. You’re right! The fifth contender was the Filbert Street steps, but \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11907457/how-the-filbert-steps-came-to-be-an-oasis-in-san-francisco\">we have an entire episode about the history of that stairway \u003c/a>and the beautiful garden that runs next to it. I’ll put a link in our show notes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bay Curious is produced at member-supported KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our show is made by Gabriela Glueck, Christopher Beale and me, Katrina Schwartz.\u003cbr>\nWith extra support from Maha Sanad, Katie Sprenger, Jen Chien, Ethan Toven-Lindsey and everyone on team KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thanks for listening. Have a great week.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>"
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"content": "\u003cp>At least a dozen police officers protested a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/richmond\">Richmond\u003c/a> City Council meeting on Tuesday, calling for the reinstatement of two officers involved in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12051745/richmond-police-release-details-in-fatal-shooting-of-man-in-mental-health-crisis\">a fatal shooting\u003c/a> last month and demanding more staffing and higher wages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Officers Nicholas Remick and Colton Stocking have been on administrative leave following the Aug. 4 shooting of 27-year-old Angel Montaño, a father and reserve officer with the U.S. Marines. Montaño was armed with a knife and threatening to kill members of his family during a mental health crisis at his family’s home when police shot and killed him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The meeting came to a head after an officer accused the city of delaying the officers’ return after the department’s psych evaluations cleared them both, and they remained in good standing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That is not policy, it’s politics, and every officer at the Richmond Police Department sees that,” Officer George McGloughlin said. “If you can do your jobs, follow the law and still be sidelined for political reasons, then no officer in this city is safe from unfair treatment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Contra Costa County District Attorney’s investigation into Montaño’s killing is ongoing, and the officers have not been officially cleared of charges. Remick was also involved in the fatal shooting of 51-year-old Jose Mendez-Rios in February.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Following McGloughlin’s comment, the meeting was disrupted by a group of people yelling out demands for the officers to face more penalties and chanting “jail killer cops.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12051259\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1777px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12051259\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/20160901_115600_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1777\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/20160901_115600_qed.jpg 1777w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/20160901_115600_qed-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/20160901_115600_qed-1536x1152.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1777px) 100vw, 1777px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Richmond Police vehicle on Sept. 1, 2016. \u003ccite>(Alex Emslie/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Mayor Eduardo Martinez asked the counter-protestors for decorum. “If we cannot act civilly, we need to leave,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t know how we can behave civilly when the police department is willing to shoot someone … that has mental health problems,” an unidentified attendee said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Martinez then called for a five-minute recess to de-escalate the meeting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Officials also discussed a proposal to change the city’s protocols around communicating with the public about “critical incidents,” defined as police shootings or uses of force leading to great bodily injury or death.[aside postID=news_12051745 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/08/250811_RICHMOND-PD-SHOOTING-UPDATE-_GH-KQED.jpg']The proposal would require the city manager, instead of police, to issue a press release within 24 hours of a critical incident with a statement, explanation and timeline of the investigation process and access to trauma-informed mental health services for families and witnesses. Currently, the Richmond Police Department does not have a timeframe under which it must respond publicly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Councilmember Sue Wilson, one of the proposal’s authors, told KQED that Richmond’s policy is not unlike other cities but could still be improved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve had families of people who have been affected by officer-involved shootings come to the meetings and repeatedly say, ‘We don’t understand what’s going on,’” she said. “As a way to sort of remedy that, I am proposing that we hold ourselves to a higher communication standard.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Members of the Richmond Police Officers Association pushed back against the proposal, criticizing Wilson and Councilmember Claudia Jimenez, who co-introduced the initiative, for undermining the department by questioning its integrity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You need to respect the process, what our subject matter experts do and how they do it,” said Sgt. Ben Therriault, president of the police union. “You’re playing politics. You’re not actually doing any governance.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city would also be required to release unedited body camera footage, unless redactions are needed to protect privacy. A California law passed in 2018 mandates police departments to release body camera footage within 45 days of a critical incident, but often these videos are \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2023/04/california-police-shooting-videos/\">heavily edited by private contractors\u003c/a> hired by the department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They edit it to have a particular narrative attached, usually one that exonerates the police officer,” Wilson said. “They seem to be encouraging the viewer to draw certain conclusions that I don’t think is fair for any city worker to be leading people towards.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Police Chief Bisa French said the department provides context for the videos to prevent misinformation and edits to help viewers identify what’s important in the video.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We take great care to ensure that the releases are fair, transparent and comply with California law,” French said. “At the same time, the individuals in the video also have privacy considerations that we must consider.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Montaño’s friends and relatives who attended the meeting urged the council to approve the proposal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You are listening to your constituents when we ask you to pass these types of proposals,” said Jesus Pedraza, a childhood friend of Montaño. “We’re scared of the police, but we want to bridge that gap.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The council didn’t get enough votes to extend their meeting and finish voting on the proposal. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The proposal would require the city manager, instead of police, to issue a press release within 24 hours of a critical incident with a statement, explanation and timeline of the investigation process and access to trauma-informed mental health services for families and witnesses. Currently, the Richmond Police Department does not have a timeframe under which it must respond publicly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Councilmember Sue Wilson, one of the proposal’s authors, told KQED that Richmond’s policy is not unlike other cities but could still be improved.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve had families of people who have been affected by officer-involved shootings come to the meetings and repeatedly say, ‘We don’t understand what’s going on,’” she said. “As a way to sort of remedy that, I am proposing that we hold ourselves to a higher communication standard.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Members of the Richmond Police Officers Association pushed back against the proposal, criticizing Wilson and Councilmember Claudia Jimenez, who co-introduced the initiative, for undermining the department by questioning its integrity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You need to respect the process, what our subject matter experts do and how they do it,” said Sgt. Ben Therriault, president of the police union. “You’re playing politics. You’re not actually doing any governance.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city would also be required to release unedited body camera footage, unless redactions are needed to protect privacy. A California law passed in 2018 mandates police departments to release body camera footage within 45 days of a critical incident, but often these videos are \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2023/04/california-police-shooting-videos/\">heavily edited by private contractors\u003c/a> hired by the department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They edit it to have a particular narrative attached, usually one that exonerates the police officer,” Wilson said. “They seem to be encouraging the viewer to draw certain conclusions that I don’t think is fair for any city worker to be leading people towards.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Police Chief Bisa French said the department provides context for the videos to prevent misinformation and edits to help viewers identify what’s important in the video.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We take great care to ensure that the releases are fair, transparent and comply with California law,” French said. “At the same time, the individuals in the video also have privacy considerations that we must consider.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Montaño’s friends and relatives who attended the meeting urged the council to approve the proposal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You are listening to your constituents when we ask you to pass these types of proposals,” said Jesus Pedraza, a childhood friend of Montaño. “We’re scared of the police, but we want to bridge that gap.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The council didn’t get enough votes to extend their meeting and finish voting on the proposal. They will revisit it at next week’s meeting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\u003cp>The ballots are in, and although they’re still being counted, the result is all but certain. \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12055340/san-francisco-supervisor-joel-engardio-braces-for-tuesday-recall-vote\">Joel Engardio is out\u003c/a> as San Francisco’s District 4 supervisor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For many in and around the Sunset District, the city’s latest recall election boiled down to Engardio’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12055288/san-francisco-supervisor-recall-asks-whose-voices-are-heard-in-a-fight-over-a-park\">support for closing\u003c/a> a 2-mile stretch of the Great Highway, but already residents are gearing up for their next battle: a rezoning proposal from Mayor Daniel Lurie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lurie’s Family Zoning Plan aims to build more housing in the Sunset and other neighborhoods by increasing density, particularly along transit and commercial corridors, allowing for about 36,000 new homes and taller buildings on the city’s west and north sides.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The mayor, who stayed on the sidelines throughout the recall campaign, is likely to face staunch opposition from the same organizers who led the push against Engardio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For too long, residents have been treated as if their voices don’t count, while special interest and developers have been allowed to dictate the future of our neighborhoods,” former San Francisco Supervisor Quentin Kopp said at the recall victory party on Tuesday night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056229\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056229\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-41-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-41-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-41-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-41-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Supporters of the recall cheer during an election night party at Celia’s by the Beach in the Sunset District of San Francisco on Sept. 16, 2025, during an election to decide whether to recall Supervisor Joel Engardio. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>With nearly 65% of district voters supporting his removal in initial returns, Engardio conceded the race shortly after 9 p.m. Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This victory, if it holds, is more than the removal of one person. It’s a declaration that our homes and neighborhoods aren’t bargaining chips,” Kopp said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Candy-colored \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12033966/sfs-single-family-home-neighborhoods-apartments-65-story-towers-downtown\">single-family homes\u003c/a>, beach bungalows and family-run businesses are a hallmark of the Sunset. It’s a picturesque neighborhood that’s largely resisted the kind of development and change seen on the city’s skyscraper-studded east side.[aside postID=news_12055340 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-46-BL.jpg']As Lurie’s zoning proposal moves forward, the Sunset will be at the forefront of the city’s longstanding battle between preserving neighborhood character and building denser housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The recall organizers have been very clear that recalling Supervisor Engardio is only their first step,” state Sen. Scott Wiener, a supporter of the zoning proposal, \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/Scott_Wiener/status/1968343570089415093\">posted on social media platform X\u003c/a>. “They are mobilizing to try to stop Mayor Lurie’s housing plan — a plan designed to ensure San Francisco is more affordable and that middle and working class people can actually live here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters of the rezoning plan, who include Engardio, say it’s necessary to open more housing in a city crunched for affordable living options, and to meet a state mandate to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11993388/new-state-law-slashed-sfs-housing-permit-timeline-will-builders-follow\">build more homes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to build housing so we can have a thriving city. It’s very important that we think about the next generation and what we are doing to ensure they can stay in San Francisco,” Engardio said after conceding. “We need to allow ourselves to do bold things so we can have a future as a city. San Francisco needs to be the most progressive that embraces the future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of Engardio’s supporters in the Sunset agree and want denser housing in their neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056241\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056241\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-45-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-45-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-45-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-45-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Supervisor Joel Engardio speaks with attendees at his election night gathering in the Sunset District of San Francisco on Sept. 16, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It’s not like I’m asking for these high rises here and there. Family housing should stay family housing, but there should be more housing supply for younger people,” said Albert Lam, a Sunset resident. “Our housing prices are so expensive, like the people who lived here before can’t afford to live here anymore.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But critics of the proposal say upzoning won’t solve the affordability crisis, arguing that it will bring in more market-rate units at the expense of the neighborhood’s renters, homeowners and small businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio “knows that if market-rate housing goes up, that will raise property taxes for families on a fixed income and force them to sell. He is deliberately breaking up immigrant communities, deliberately displacing our most vulnerable people,” said Otto Pippenger, a lead organizer for the pro-recall campaign. “The government’s responsibility is to the people in greatest need, not the convenience and wealth of those who are doing best. That’s what this is about.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supervisors have introduced supporting legislation aiming to prevent evictions and help small businesses that could be threatened by the zoning changes and development.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The amendments haven’t soothed the concerns of Sunset residents like Stephen Gorski, who voted to recall Engardio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056219\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056219\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-19-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-19-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-19-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-19-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A supporter of the recall wears a sticker on his hat during an election night party at Celia’s by the Beach in the Sunset District of San Francisco on Sept.16, 2025, during an election to decide whether to recall Supervisor Joel Engardio. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“What we want is representation, and we want clarity and truth and to feel like we’re being heard, which is not the case,” he said from the election victory party at Celia’s by the Beach, a Mexican restaurant in the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though Lurie avoided taking a position on the push to oust Engardio — a fellow moderate Democrat who has backed many of the mayor’s policies — he released a statement after election results came in thanking those “who made their voices heard” in the recall vote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Sunset largely voted to elect Lurie into office, and his response to the recall shows he’s walking a tightrope trying to keep the neighborhood on his side.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I heard countless west side families say what San Franciscans have been feeling for years: that their government is doing things to them, not with them, and that government is not working to make their lives better,” Lurie said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12003092\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12003092\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Then-mayoral candidate Daniel Lurie shakes voter Diane Lee’s hand as he campaigns at the Sunset Night Market in San Francisco on Aug. 30, 2024. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>After Engardio’s recall, the mayor will appoint an interim supervisor to fill his seat until voters elect a new supervisor next year. Whoever he chooses will have a challenging task ahead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s going to be intense and fierce, and whoever is brave enough to put their name out there in front of this district at this moment when they have been emboldened by these results will be a difficult needle to thread for anyone,” said Joe Arellano, spokesperson for the campaign to keep Engardio in office. “Frankly, I am concerned as a citizen who wants to see the city evolve and build more housing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not clear who Lurie will tap for the seat. Political onlookers say it will be tricky to find someone open to revisiting the Great Highway park debate but also supportive of the mayor’s housing plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’s going to go for somebody who was really loyal, who’s going to follow the Lurie agenda and be a supporter of that,” said political consultant Jim Ross, who worked on the campaign to keep District Attorney Chesa Boudin in office when he was recalled in 2022.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056226\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056226\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-30-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-30-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-30-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-30-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Supporters of the recall cheer during an election night party at Celia’s by the Beach in the Sunset District of San Francisco on Sept. 16, 2025, during an election to decide whether to recall Supervisor Joel Engardio. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Ross said this week’s vote against Engardio, driven largely by local community members who were dramatically out-fundraised by their opponents, signals that the city’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12053978/california-recall-fever-hits-san-franciscos-quiet-westside\">recall fever\u003c/a> might not be going away just yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio is the seventh elected official in the Bay Area to be recalled in recent years, following \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11916212/chesa-boudin-recall-sf-voters-on-track-to-oust-district-attorney\">Boudin\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11904879/sf-school-board-recall-results-alison-collins-gabriela-lopez-and-faauuga-moliga-headed-for-recall\">three members of the San Francisco Board of Education\u003c/a>, as well as \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12012357/sheng-thao-accepts-defeat-in-contentious-oakland-mayoral-recall\">Oakland Mayor Sheng Thao\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12012651/alameda-county-district-attorney-pamela-price\">Alameda County District Attorney Pamela Price\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re going to continue seeing recalls moving forward. This is not going to be the last one,” Ross said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Regardless of where one stands on the housing debate, some residents said they want the city to revisit changes to election rules that could make it harder for a recall to get on the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I would absolutely vote to minimize or eliminate recalls. You can hold people accountable during normal elections,” Eamon Barisone, a Sunset resident, said outside a polling place on Tuesday. “I voted against the [Engardio] recall because I generally don’t like recalls.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before he was elected supervisor, Engardio himself supported the 2022 recall of Boudin and the Board of Education members that same year. When asked if he would support changes to recall elections after his own removal, he said he didn’t yet have any comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Perhaps? But as someone who’s just been through a recall, let me process that for a bit,” he said. “But maybe.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The mayor, who stayed on the sidelines throughout the recall campaign, is likely to face staunch opposition from the same organizers who led the push against Engardio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For too long, residents have been treated as if their voices don’t count, while special interest and developers have been allowed to dictate the future of our neighborhoods,” former San Francisco Supervisor Quentin Kopp said at the recall victory party on Tuesday night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056229\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056229\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-41-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-41-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-41-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-41-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Supporters of the recall cheer during an election night party at Celia’s by the Beach in the Sunset District of San Francisco on Sept. 16, 2025, during an election to decide whether to recall Supervisor Joel Engardio. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>With nearly 65% of district voters supporting his removal in initial returns, Engardio conceded the race shortly after 9 p.m. Tuesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This victory, if it holds, is more than the removal of one person. It’s a declaration that our homes and neighborhoods aren’t bargaining chips,” Kopp said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Candy-colored \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12033966/sfs-single-family-home-neighborhoods-apartments-65-story-towers-downtown\">single-family homes\u003c/a>, beach bungalows and family-run businesses are a hallmark of the Sunset. It’s a picturesque neighborhood that’s largely resisted the kind of development and change seen on the city’s skyscraper-studded east side.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>As Lurie’s zoning proposal moves forward, the Sunset will be at the forefront of the city’s longstanding battle between preserving neighborhood character and building denser housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The recall organizers have been very clear that recalling Supervisor Engardio is only their first step,” state Sen. Scott Wiener, a supporter of the zoning proposal, \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/Scott_Wiener/status/1968343570089415093\">posted on social media platform X\u003c/a>. “They are mobilizing to try to stop Mayor Lurie’s housing plan — a plan designed to ensure San Francisco is more affordable and that middle and working class people can actually live here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters of the rezoning plan, who include Engardio, say it’s necessary to open more housing in a city crunched for affordable living options, and to meet a state mandate to \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11993388/new-state-law-slashed-sfs-housing-permit-timeline-will-builders-follow\">build more homes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We need to build housing so we can have a thriving city. It’s very important that we think about the next generation and what we are doing to ensure they can stay in San Francisco,” Engardio said after conceding. “We need to allow ourselves to do bold things so we can have a future as a city. San Francisco needs to be the most progressive that embraces the future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of Engardio’s supporters in the Sunset agree and want denser housing in their neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056241\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056241\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-45-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-45-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-45-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-45-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Supervisor Joel Engardio speaks with attendees at his election night gathering in the Sunset District of San Francisco on Sept. 16, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It’s not like I’m asking for these high rises here and there. Family housing should stay family housing, but there should be more housing supply for younger people,” said Albert Lam, a Sunset resident. “Our housing prices are so expensive, like the people who lived here before can’t afford to live here anymore.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But critics of the proposal say upzoning won’t solve the affordability crisis, arguing that it will bring in more market-rate units at the expense of the neighborhood’s renters, homeowners and small businesses.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio “knows that if market-rate housing goes up, that will raise property taxes for families on a fixed income and force them to sell. He is deliberately breaking up immigrant communities, deliberately displacing our most vulnerable people,” said Otto Pippenger, a lead organizer for the pro-recall campaign. “The government’s responsibility is to the people in greatest need, not the convenience and wealth of those who are doing best. That’s what this is about.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supervisors have introduced supporting legislation aiming to prevent evictions and help small businesses that could be threatened by the zoning changes and development.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The amendments haven’t soothed the concerns of Sunset residents like Stephen Gorski, who voted to recall Engardio.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056219\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056219\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-19-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-19-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-19-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-19-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A supporter of the recall wears a sticker on his hat during an election night party at Celia’s by the Beach in the Sunset District of San Francisco on Sept.16, 2025, during an election to decide whether to recall Supervisor Joel Engardio. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“What we want is representation, and we want clarity and truth and to feel like we’re being heard, which is not the case,” he said from the election victory party at Celia’s by the Beach, a Mexican restaurant in the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though Lurie avoided taking a position on the push to oust Engardio — a fellow moderate Democrat who has backed many of the mayor’s policies — he released a statement after election results came in thanking those “who made their voices heard” in the recall vote.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Sunset largely voted to elect Lurie into office, and his response to the recall shows he’s walking a tightrope trying to keep the neighborhood on his side.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I heard countless west side families say what San Franciscans have been feeling for years: that their government is doing things to them, not with them, and that government is not working to make their lives better,” Lurie said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12003092\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12003092\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/09/20240830-AAPIVOTERS-JY-004-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Then-mayoral candidate Daniel Lurie shakes voter Diane Lee’s hand as he campaigns at the Sunset Night Market in San Francisco on Aug. 30, 2024. \u003ccite>(Juliana Yamada for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>After Engardio’s recall, the mayor will appoint an interim supervisor to fill his seat until voters elect a new supervisor next year. Whoever he chooses will have a challenging task ahead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s going to be intense and fierce, and whoever is brave enough to put their name out there in front of this district at this moment when they have been emboldened by these results will be a difficult needle to thread for anyone,” said Joe Arellano, spokesperson for the campaign to keep Engardio in office. “Frankly, I am concerned as a citizen who wants to see the city evolve and build more housing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not clear who Lurie will tap for the seat. Political onlookers say it will be tricky to find someone open to revisiting the Great Highway park debate but also supportive of the mayor’s housing plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’s going to go for somebody who was really loyal, who’s going to follow the Lurie agenda and be a supporter of that,” said political consultant Jim Ross, who worked on the campaign to keep District Attorney Chesa Boudin in office when he was recalled in 2022.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056226\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056226\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-30-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-30-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-30-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-30-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Supporters of the recall cheer during an election night party at Celia’s by the Beach in the Sunset District of San Francisco on Sept. 16, 2025, during an election to decide whether to recall Supervisor Joel Engardio. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Ross said this week’s vote against Engardio, driven largely by local community members who were dramatically out-fundraised by their opponents, signals that the city’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12053978/california-recall-fever-hits-san-franciscos-quiet-westside\">recall fever\u003c/a> might not be going away just yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio is the seventh elected official in the Bay Area to be recalled in recent years, following \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11916212/chesa-boudin-recall-sf-voters-on-track-to-oust-district-attorney\">Boudin\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11904879/sf-school-board-recall-results-alison-collins-gabriela-lopez-and-faauuga-moliga-headed-for-recall\">three members of the San Francisco Board of Education\u003c/a>, as well as \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12012357/sheng-thao-accepts-defeat-in-contentious-oakland-mayoral-recall\">Oakland Mayor Sheng Thao\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12012651/alameda-county-district-attorney-pamela-price\">Alameda County District Attorney Pamela Price\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re going to continue seeing recalls moving forward. This is not going to be the last one,” Ross said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Regardless of where one stands on the housing debate, some residents said they want the city to revisit changes to election rules that could make it harder for a recall to get on the ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I would absolutely vote to minimize or eliminate recalls. You can hold people accountable during normal elections,” Eamon Barisone, a Sunset resident, said outside a polling place on Tuesday. “I voted against the [Engardio] recall because I generally don’t like recalls.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before he was elected supervisor, Engardio himself supported the 2022 recall of Boudin and the Board of Education members that same year. When asked if he would support changes to recall elections after his own removal, he said he didn’t yet have any comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Perhaps? But as someone who’s just been through a recall, let me process that for a bit,” he said. “But maybe.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/golden-state-valkyries\">Golden State Valkyries\u003c/a> made WNBA history as the first expansion team to reach the playoffs in their inaugural season. General public tickets and verified resales for \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/valkyries/p/DOfanNsjSSs/\">their first home game\u003c/a> tonight are still available on \u003ca href=\"https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C006325A934574D\">Ticketmaster\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As the first new team in the franchise in nearly 20 years, the Valkyries faced high expectations. And by finishing among the league’s top eight, they delivered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Could I be more excited? Impossible,” said San Francisco Valkyries fan Vanessa Hutchinson-Szekely, a teacher and co-host of the podcast \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/valkyriessayless/\">Valkyries Say Less\u003c/a>. “It is amazing, historic, and I am so proud of the journey of these incredible women.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because when we started this, we had no idea where we were going to go.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Playoffs start on Sunday. Read on to find out where you can follow the game in the coming weeks, whether it is on TV, bars or at San José’s SAP Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you’re new to basketball but want to join the Bay Area hype after the team’s big milestone, don’t worry — we’ve got a quick explainer below on what playoffs are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED also has \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12047885/how-to-be-a-valkyries-fan-a-beginners-guide-to-bay-area-wnba-fandom\">a comprehensive guide\u003c/a> to the world of the WNBA and fan culture in the Bay Area for new viewers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040691\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1873px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040691\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1873\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed.jpg 1873w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed-800x569.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed-1020x726.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed-160x114.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed-1536x1093.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1873px) 100vw, 1873px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fans pose for a photo outside of Chase Center, following the WNBA game between the Golden State Valkyries and the Los Angeles Sparks on May 16, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>So, what \u003cem>are \u003c/em>playoffs?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>After a regular season of basketball, the top eight WNBA teams compete in a tournament. The \u003ca href=\"https://www.wnba.com/standings\">team\u003c/a> standings are:\u003c/p>\n\u003col>\n\u003cli>Minnesota Lynx\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Las Vegas Aces\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Atlanta Dream\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Phoenix Mercury\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>New York Liberty\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Indiana Fever\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Seattle Storm\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Golden State Valkyries\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ol>\n\u003cp>Dates and times are subject to change — or even canceled altogether — depending on how the games go, but the \u003ca href=\"https://www.wnba.com/news/2025-playoffs-and-finals-dates\">tentative schedule\u003c/a> in Pacific Standard Time is \u003ca href=\"https://www.wnba.com/schedule?season=2025&month=all\">as follows\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Round 1\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003cstrong>Sunday at 10 a.m. on ESPN: Golden State Valkyries vs. Minnesota Lynx in Minneapolis\u003c/strong>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sunday noon on ABC: Indiana Fever vs. Atlanta Dream\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sunday at 2 p.m. on ESPN: New York Liberty vs. Phoenix Mercury\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sunday at 7 p.m. on ESPN: Seattle Storm vs. Las Vegas Aces\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Tuesday at 4:30 p.m. on ESPN: Atlanta Dream vs. Indiana Fever\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Tuesday at 6:30 p.m. on ESPN: Las Vegas Aces vs. Seattle Storm\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Wednesday at 5 p.m. on ESPN: Phoenix Mercury vs. New York Liberty\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Wednesday at 7 p.m. on ESPN: Minnesota Lynx vs. Golden State Valkyries in San Jose\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 18 on ESPN2: Seattle Storm vs. Las Vegas Aces\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 18 on ESPN2: Indiana Fever vs. Atlanta Dream\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Sept. 19. on ESPN2: Golden State Valkyries vs. Minnesota Lynx in Minneapolis\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 19. on ESPN2: New York Liberty vs. Phoenix Mercury\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Semifinals\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Sept. 21 at 3 p.m. on ABC\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 21 at 5 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 23 at 7:30 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 23 at 9:30 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 26 at 7:30 p.m. on ESPN2\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 26 at 9:30 p.m. on ESPN2\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 28 at TBD on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 28 at 3 p.m. on ABC\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 30 at TBD on ESPNU\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 30 at TBD on ESPNU\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Finals\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Finals 1: Oct. 3 at 8 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 2: Oct. 5 at 3 p.m. on ABC\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 3: Oct. 8 at 8 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 4: Oct. 10 at 8 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 5: Oct. 12 at 3 p.m. on TBD\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 6: Oct. 15 at 8 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 7: Oct. 17 at 8 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>“[The] Valkyries have really attracted people [who] have never even watched basketball. And so there’s a learning curve,” said Hutchinson-Szekely’s co-host and fellow teacher, Raina Mast. “Normalize being confused. The structure is confusing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Essentially, Mast and Hutchinson-Szekely explained, each of the eight teams will play their first game on Sunday. In the first round, the highest-seeded teams face the lowest-seeded teams in a best-of-three series. The Valkyries will be facing the Minnesota Lynx, a team they have \u003ca href=\"https://www.espn.com/wnba/team/schedule/_/name/min/minnesota-lynx\">not beaten before\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040673\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1943px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040673\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1943\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed.jpg 1943w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed-800x549.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed-1020x700.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed-160x110.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed-1536x1054.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed-1920x1317.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1943px) 100vw, 1943px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Golden State Valkyries guard Tiffany Hayes (15) advances toward the basket during the Valkyries’ home opener at Chase Center on May 16, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the second round, the four remaining teams play a best-of-five series. In the finals, the last two teams compete in a best-of-five series for the championship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You may see in sports coverage where people refer to a “2-2-1-1” structure. That basically designates where the games are played. So, the first “2” means the first two games are played on the stronger team’s home court. The next “2” means the following two games are played on the weaker team’s home court. And so on.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where can I watch the games?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>ESPN, ESPN2, ESNPU and ABC will be showing the games on TV. You can also get access to the channels through platforms like \u003ca href=\"https://tv.youtube.com/learn/wnba/\">YouTube TV\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.fubo.tv/welcome\">Fubo\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Watch the game in person\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For fans hoping to see the game in person, know that any Valkyries home games will not be played at Chase Center — better known as “Ballhalla” — where every regular-season home game has \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/valkyries/status/1964507585060753897\">sold out\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, the Valkyries will be playing their first playoff home game on Wednesday at \u003ca href=\"https://www.sapcenter.com/news/detail/sap-center-to-host-first-evergolden-state-valkyrieswnba-playoff-game#:~:text=SAP%20Center%20at%20San%20Jose,Harlem%20Globetrotters%20(multiple%20years).\">San José’s SAP Center\u003c/a>. [aside postID=news_12047885 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/07/golden-state-valkyries.png']Jess Smith, president of the Golden State Valkyries, announced the arena change to season ticket holders after the team won the Sept. 4 game that secured their spot in the playoffs. Smith said that Chase Center was booked for a tennis tournament years in advance, before the Bay was given a WNBA team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re already working to ensure our playoff scheduling is protected going forward to prevent scheduling conflicts for future playoff runs in Ballhalla,” the letter reads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The news left some fans frustrated, considering that being \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/valkyries-move-first-playoff-game-to-san-jose-21032074.php\">pushed out of their home \u003c/a>arena has happened to WNBA teams in the past. As Breanna Stewart, a player and vice president for the Women’s National Basketball Players Association, said to \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/valkyries-move-first-playoff-game-to-san-jose-21032074.php\">SFGate\u003c/a>, “You don’t see it happening with the NBA.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coach Natalie Nakase, for her part, said \u003ca href=\"https://www.si.com/wnba/valkyries/valkyries-coach-opens-up-about-unfortunate-playoff-situation\">in a press conference\u003c/a> that the Valkyries are still playing in their territory.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Even if we’re in San José, that’s still considered the Bay. We know that they’re going to travel, our fans are going to come,” she said. “For us, we’re still at home.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How to get to SAP Center\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you have never been to SAP Center, you’re in luck: downtown San José is very well connected by several public transit agencies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re coming from the city’s Eastside, you can take the light rail VTA from Alum Rock station straight to San José-Diridon, which is only one block away from SAP Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055677\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055677\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/SAPCenterGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/SAPCenterGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/SAPCenterGetty-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/SAPCenterGetty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The SAP Center sports arena in San José, California, on July 1, 2025. \u003ccite>(Patrick T. Fallon/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Caltrain — which runs from San Francisco through San Mateo County to the South Bay — also stops at San José-Diridon. According to a Caltrain news release, the #416 southbound will feature a Valkyries-themed car, giving passengers the chance to win free merch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coming in from the East Bay? You can take BART and get off at Berryessa/North San José station and then get on a VTA bus — specifically the Rapid 500 line — which will quickly take you straight to SAP Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keep in mind that public transportation in San José does not run the whole night. So if you are getting home through transit, be sure of when the last train or bus runs so you don’t get stranded. You can also use \u003ca href=\"https://www.caltrain.com/trip-planner/view\">trip planners\u003c/a> to \u003ca href=\"https://www.bart.gov/planner\">help\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://511.org/transit\">mark your route\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Watch the game at a bar\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you are unable to make it to a game, there are\u003ca href=\"https://wnbaroughnotes.substack.com/p/rough-notes-guide-to-wnba-watch-parties\"> bars and restaurants in the Bay\u003c/a> that show women’s sports.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There will likely be more parties announced as we get closer to the Valkyries’ first game.\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>If you can’t get into SAP Center but still want to join the fun, an \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/valkyries/p/DOrhA63kuYt/\">official block party\u003c/a> will take place outside from 4:30 to 6:30 p.m.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/kalwpublicmedia/p/DOrp8-AjjSf/\">\u003cstrong>KALW\u003c/strong> in San Francisco\u003c/a> is hosting a watch party, complete with free pizza.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.thenewparkway.com/\">\u003cstrong>The New Parkway Theater\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland is showing Wednesday’s game.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.chasecenter.com/events/?artist=GSV\">\u003cstrong>Thrive City \u003c/strong>\u003c/a> (the venue connected to Chase Center) hosted a free watch party for Sunday’s game.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13977457/rikkis-first-womens-sports-bar-bay-area-open-castro-sf-valkyries\">\u003cstrong>Rikki’s\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in San Francisco’s Castro District (the city’s first bar dedicated to women’s sports)\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.zekisbar.com/\">\u003cstrong>Zeki’s Bar\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in San Francisco\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/whitehorsebar/?hl=en\">\u003cstrong>White Horse\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://line51beer.com/\">\u003cstrong>Line 51 Brewing\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/georgeandwaltsbar/?hl=en\">\u003cstrong>George & Walt’s\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://xingones.com/\">\u003cstrong>Xingones Cantina\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.theacoakland.com/\">\u003cstrong>Athletic Club Oakland\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Fan groups like the \u003cstrong>Valqueeries\u003c/strong>, which is for queer WNBA fans, often host watch parties for away games at local bars like Mother in the Mission District. You can get updates for the next event on the \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/valqueeries/\">Valqueeries’ Instagram\u003c/a>.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story originally published on Sept. 12, and contains reporting from KQED’s \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/ccabreralomeli\">\u003cem>Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí.\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Playoffs start on Sunday. Read on to find out where you can follow the game in the coming weeks, whether it is on TV, bars or at San José’s SAP Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if you’re new to basketball but want to join the Bay Area hype after the team’s big milestone, don’t worry — we’ve got a quick explainer below on what playoffs are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED also has \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12047885/how-to-be-a-valkyries-fan-a-beginners-guide-to-bay-area-wnba-fandom\">a comprehensive guide\u003c/a> to the world of the WNBA and fan culture in the Bay Area for new viewers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040691\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1873px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040691\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1873\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed.jpg 1873w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed-800x569.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed-1020x726.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed-160x114.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-53_qed-1536x1093.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1873px) 100vw, 1873px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fans pose for a photo outside of Chase Center, following the WNBA game between the Golden State Valkyries and the Los Angeles Sparks on May 16, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>So, what \u003cem>are \u003c/em>playoffs?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>After a regular season of basketball, the top eight WNBA teams compete in a tournament. The \u003ca href=\"https://www.wnba.com/standings\">team\u003c/a> standings are:\u003c/p>\n\u003col>\n\u003cli>Minnesota Lynx\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Las Vegas Aces\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Atlanta Dream\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Phoenix Mercury\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>New York Liberty\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Indiana Fever\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Seattle Storm\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Golden State Valkyries\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ol>\n\u003cp>Dates and times are subject to change — or even canceled altogether — depending on how the games go, but the \u003ca href=\"https://www.wnba.com/news/2025-playoffs-and-finals-dates\">tentative schedule\u003c/a> in Pacific Standard Time is \u003ca href=\"https://www.wnba.com/schedule?season=2025&month=all\">as follows\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Round 1\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>\u003cstrong>Sunday at 10 a.m. on ESPN: Golden State Valkyries vs. Minnesota Lynx in Minneapolis\u003c/strong>\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sunday noon on ABC: Indiana Fever vs. Atlanta Dream\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sunday at 2 p.m. on ESPN: New York Liberty vs. Phoenix Mercury\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sunday at 7 p.m. on ESPN: Seattle Storm vs. Las Vegas Aces\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Tuesday at 4:30 p.m. on ESPN: Atlanta Dream vs. Indiana Fever\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Tuesday at 6:30 p.m. on ESPN: Las Vegas Aces vs. Seattle Storm\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Wednesday at 5 p.m. on ESPN: Phoenix Mercury vs. New York Liberty\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Wednesday at 7 p.m. on ESPN: Minnesota Lynx vs. Golden State Valkyries in San Jose\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 18 on ESPN2: Seattle Storm vs. Las Vegas Aces\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 18 on ESPN2: Indiana Fever vs. Atlanta Dream\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Sept. 19. on ESPN2: Golden State Valkyries vs. Minnesota Lynx in Minneapolis\u003c/strong>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 19. on ESPN2: New York Liberty vs. Phoenix Mercury\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Semifinals\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Sept. 21 at 3 p.m. on ABC\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 21 at 5 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 23 at 7:30 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 23 at 9:30 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 26 at 7:30 p.m. on ESPN2\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 26 at 9:30 p.m. on ESPN2\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 28 at TBD on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 28 at 3 p.m. on ABC\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 30 at TBD on ESPNU\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sept. 30 at TBD on ESPNU\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Finals\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Finals 1: Oct. 3 at 8 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 2: Oct. 5 at 3 p.m. on ABC\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 3: Oct. 8 at 8 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 4: Oct. 10 at 8 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 5: Oct. 12 at 3 p.m. on TBD\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 6: Oct. 15 at 8 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Finals 7: Oct. 17 at 8 p.m. on ESPN\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>“[The] Valkyries have really attracted people [who] have never even watched basketball. And so there’s a learning curve,” said Hutchinson-Szekely’s co-host and fellow teacher, Raina Mast. “Normalize being confused. The structure is confusing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Essentially, Mast and Hutchinson-Szekely explained, each of the eight teams will play their first game on Sunday. In the first round, the highest-seeded teams face the lowest-seeded teams in a best-of-three series. The Valkyries will be facing the Minnesota Lynx, a team they have \u003ca href=\"https://www.espn.com/wnba/team/schedule/_/name/min/minnesota-lynx\">not beaten before\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040673\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1943px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040673\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1943\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed.jpg 1943w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed-800x549.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed-1020x700.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed-160x110.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed-1536x1054.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250516_ValkyriesHomeOpener_GC-63_qed-1920x1317.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1943px) 100vw, 1943px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Golden State Valkyries guard Tiffany Hayes (15) advances toward the basket during the Valkyries’ home opener at Chase Center on May 16, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In the second round, the four remaining teams play a best-of-five series. In the finals, the last two teams compete in a best-of-five series for the championship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You may see in sports coverage where people refer to a “2-2-1-1” structure. That basically designates where the games are played. So, the first “2” means the first two games are played on the stronger team’s home court. The next “2” means the following two games are played on the weaker team’s home court. And so on.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where can I watch the games?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>ESPN, ESPN2, ESNPU and ABC will be showing the games on TV. You can also get access to the channels through platforms like \u003ca href=\"https://tv.youtube.com/learn/wnba/\">YouTube TV\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.fubo.tv/welcome\">Fubo\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Watch the game in person\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For fans hoping to see the game in person, know that any Valkyries home games will not be played at Chase Center — better known as “Ballhalla” — where every regular-season home game has \u003ca href=\"https://x.com/valkyries/status/1964507585060753897\">sold out\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, the Valkyries will be playing their first playoff home game on Wednesday at \u003ca href=\"https://www.sapcenter.com/news/detail/sap-center-to-host-first-evergolden-state-valkyrieswnba-playoff-game#:~:text=SAP%20Center%20at%20San%20Jose,Harlem%20Globetrotters%20(multiple%20years).\">San José’s SAP Center\u003c/a>. \u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Jess Smith, president of the Golden State Valkyries, announced the arena change to season ticket holders after the team won the Sept. 4 game that secured their spot in the playoffs. Smith said that Chase Center was booked for a tennis tournament years in advance, before the Bay was given a WNBA team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re already working to ensure our playoff scheduling is protected going forward to prevent scheduling conflicts for future playoff runs in Ballhalla,” the letter reads.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The news left some fans frustrated, considering that being \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/valkyries-move-first-playoff-game-to-san-jose-21032074.php\">pushed out of their home \u003c/a>arena has happened to WNBA teams in the past. As Breanna Stewart, a player and vice president for the Women’s National Basketball Players Association, said to \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/valkyries-move-first-playoff-game-to-san-jose-21032074.php\">SFGate\u003c/a>, “You don’t see it happening with the NBA.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coach Natalie Nakase, for her part, said \u003ca href=\"https://www.si.com/wnba/valkyries/valkyries-coach-opens-up-about-unfortunate-playoff-situation\">in a press conference\u003c/a> that the Valkyries are still playing in their territory.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Even if we’re in San José, that’s still considered the Bay. We know that they’re going to travel, our fans are going to come,” she said. “For us, we’re still at home.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How to get to SAP Center\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you have never been to SAP Center, you’re in luck: downtown San José is very well connected by several public transit agencies.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re coming from the city’s Eastside, you can take the light rail VTA from Alum Rock station straight to San José-Diridon, which is only one block away from SAP Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055677\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055677\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/SAPCenterGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/SAPCenterGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/SAPCenterGetty-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/SAPCenterGetty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The SAP Center sports arena in San José, California, on July 1, 2025. \u003ccite>(Patrick T. Fallon/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Caltrain — which runs from San Francisco through San Mateo County to the South Bay — also stops at San José-Diridon. According to a Caltrain news release, the #416 southbound will feature a Valkyries-themed car, giving passengers the chance to win free merch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Coming in from the East Bay? You can take BART and get off at Berryessa/North San José station and then get on a VTA bus — specifically the Rapid 500 line — which will quickly take you straight to SAP Center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Keep in mind that public transportation in San José does not run the whole night. So if you are getting home through transit, be sure of when the last train or bus runs so you don’t get stranded. You can also use \u003ca href=\"https://www.caltrain.com/trip-planner/view\">trip planners\u003c/a> to \u003ca href=\"https://www.bart.gov/planner\">help\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"https://511.org/transit\">mark your route\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Watch the game at a bar\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you are unable to make it to a game, there are\u003ca href=\"https://wnbaroughnotes.substack.com/p/rough-notes-guide-to-wnba-watch-parties\"> bars and restaurants in the Bay\u003c/a> that show women’s sports.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There will likely be more parties announced as we get closer to the Valkyries’ first game.\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>If you can’t get into SAP Center but still want to join the fun, an \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/valkyries/p/DOrhA63kuYt/\">official block party\u003c/a> will take place outside from 4:30 to 6:30 p.m.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/kalwpublicmedia/p/DOrp8-AjjSf/\">\u003cstrong>KALW\u003c/strong> in San Francisco\u003c/a> is hosting a watch party, complete with free pizza.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.thenewparkway.com/\">\u003cstrong>The New Parkway Theater\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland is showing Wednesday’s game.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.chasecenter.com/events/?artist=GSV\">\u003cstrong>Thrive City \u003c/strong>\u003c/a> (the venue connected to Chase Center) hosted a free watch party for Sunday’s game.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13977457/rikkis-first-womens-sports-bar-bay-area-open-castro-sf-valkyries\">\u003cstrong>Rikki’s\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in San Francisco’s Castro District (the city’s first bar dedicated to women’s sports)\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.zekisbar.com/\">\u003cstrong>Zeki’s Bar\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in San Francisco\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/whitehorsebar/?hl=en\">\u003cstrong>White Horse\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://line51beer.com/\">\u003cstrong>Line 51 Brewing\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/georgeandwaltsbar/?hl=en\">\u003cstrong>George & Walt’s\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://xingones.com/\">\u003cstrong>Xingones Cantina\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The \u003ca href=\"https://www.theacoakland.com/\">\u003cstrong>Athletic Club Oakland\u003c/strong>\u003c/a> in Oakland\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Fan groups like the \u003cstrong>Valqueeries\u003c/strong>, which is for queer WNBA fans, often host watch parties for away games at local bars like Mother in the Mission District. 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"content": "\u003cp>San Francisco Supervisor Joel Engardio conceded Tuesday night in the District 4 recall election, after early returns showed about 64% of voters supporting his removal. The vote reflected backlash from Sunset residents over his support for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1995077/yes-on-k-declares-victory-on-san-franciscos-proposition-k\">Proposition K\u003c/a>, which turned part of the Great Highway into Sunset Dunes park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My time as a supervisor will be shorter than expected, but we can still celebrate because we’re on the right side of history,” Engardio said after conceding. “Sunset Dunes is a success. It’s good for the environment. It’s great for local businesses. It’s bringing joy to generations of people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Voters citywide approved Proposition K, but most Sunset residents who live \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12055288/san-francisco-supervisor-recall-asks-whose-voices-are-heard-in-a-fight-over-a-park\">closest to the park\u003c/a> opposed it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Celia’s by the Beach on Judah Street, a Mexican restaurant in the Sunset, the room erupted in cheers as early results were posted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Quentin Kopp grabbed the microphone, telling the crowd the Sunset “can’t be bought” and warning that the next fight would be over Mayor Daniel Lurie’s zoning plan. Campaign organizer Otto Pippenger credited the Chinese community for driving what he called a “successful recall.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Glasses clinked, margaritas sloshed and the energy was electric as supporters toasted the moment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056227\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056227\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-33-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-33-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-33-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-33-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Recall supporters Vera Genkin-Tuttle (left) and Jen Dougherty cheer during an election night party at Celia’s by the Beach in the Sunset District of San Francisco on September 16, 2025, during an election to decide whether to recall Supervisor Joel Engardio. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Roughly 50,000 residents were eligible to vote in the recall, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfelections.org/tools/election_data/turnout_vbm.php\">16,278 ballots\u003c/a> had been submitted as of Tuesday night, according to the Department of Elections.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio continues to support the park. He and his supporters note that the lower portion of the Great Highway is already closed because of coastal erosion. They argue the park is both necessary to adapt to the changing landscape and valuable as a recreation space for residents across the region.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056206\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056206\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-12-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-12-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-12-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-12-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Henry Flynn talks with a man on Judah Street in San Francisco’s Sunset District on Sept. 16, 2025, election day, during the recall vote for Supervisor Joel Engardio.\u003c/span> \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Henry Flynn, a fourth-generation San Franciscan, called the recall “democracy 101,” focusing on the Great Highway closure as a sign that city leaders ignored residents’ wishes. “If a majority votes you in and wants a vital roadway open, ignoring them isn’t democratic,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Flynn, who grew up in the Richmond District, criticized the weekend-only closure and dismissed coastal erosion and maintenance costs as a “scapegoat,” noting the park has created new problems like trash and human waste. On recalls, he said officials who turn their backs on constituents should face consequences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement Tuesday night, Lurie thanked Engardio for his service and District 4 residents “who made their voices heard.” He said many westside families feel that “their government is doing things to them, not with them,” and pledged to continue communicating openly on issues such as public safety, housing and public space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As votes are still being counted and the election will be certified in the coming weeks, our team is evaluating next steps for the District 4 supervisor seat,” Lurie said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056203\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056203\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-07-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-07-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-07-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-07-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Erin and Jeremy Stewart spoke with precinct inspector Ellen Edelson outside Eagle Pizzeria in San Francisco’s Sunset District on Sept. 16, 2025, election day, during the recall vote for Supervisor Joel Engardio. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>CC Sofronas said she voted early and against the recall. She sympathized with Sunset residents frustrated by the closure of the Great Highway but preferred to accept the city’s decision and move forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I in fact voted to keep it open for transit and closed for weekends last fall,” Sofronas said. “But because it passed to close, I just felt let’s just go with it. I didn’t want to spend resources on a recall. People could just vote him out the next time.”[aside postID=news_12054762 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-11-BL.jpg']Sofronas said the city could explore recall reform, noting that frequent recalls may reduce the impact of each vote. She described the campaign as divisive but said it has remained manageable in her neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are strong views on both sides, and some of my closest friends feel differently,” she said. “We can co-exist.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio’s opponents had also cited traffic problems from losing a key thoroughfare in a quiet, residential neighborhood. At a recent public meeting, dozens of recall supporters complained about longer commutes and “bumper to bumper” congestion near the park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An SFMTA study, however, found minimal impact. The city has since adjusted traffic light patterns in the neighborhood. Engardio’s stance on other issues, such as Lurie’s proposal to bring more housing to the Sunset, has also fueled recall momentum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is another huge, generational, landscape-changing subject and he’s doing it more or less with his crowd. It’s totally unfair,” Sunset resident Albert Chow said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055057\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055057\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00180_TV-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00180_TV-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00180_TV-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00180_TV-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Albert Chow (left) and his mother, Mariana Chow (right), discussed the destruction of their business, Great Wall Hardware, by fire in the Sunset District, outside the store on Taraval Street in San Francisco on September 3, 2025. Chinese voters in the Sunset were divided over whether to support the recall of Supervisor Joel Engardio, who backed the proposal to close off the Great Highway to cars and open a new park. \u003ccite>(Tâm Vũ/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Engardio’s supporters say they like the park for expanding access to nature and recreation — and they welcome more housing in the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I love the park. I go there all the time. I have two young kids, so I’m always down there walking my dogs and taking the kids out,” said Lauren Crabbe, a Sunset resident and owner of Andytown Coffee. “I think it’s just a really beautiful reclamation of space.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12035808\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12035808\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">People attend the grand opening of Sunset Dunes Park on the Upper Great Highway in San Francisco on April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Crabbe said her business has seen an uptick in sales since the park opened this summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I do credit the park for a lot of that. Our Outer Richmond location has increased a little bit, but not as much as our Sunset locations,” Crabbe said. “It’s encouraging people to spend more time in the Sunset as opposed to just driving around it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lurie will appoint an interim supervisor until the next election in 2026.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How long until the Great Highway reopens to cars? That would require another ballot measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot of feeling like, ‘How come the other side of the city got to have a say in what happens in the Sunset?’ But it’s important to know that many recallers put their own measure on the ballot in 2022 — and they lost,” Engardio said. “I thought, maybe it’s better to go with more democracy and let everyone have a say, because the coast belongs to everyone, not just one neighborhood.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Celia’s by the Beach on Judah Street, a Mexican restaurant in the Sunset, the room erupted in cheers as early results were posted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Quentin Kopp grabbed the microphone, telling the crowd the Sunset “can’t be bought” and warning that the next fight would be over Mayor Daniel Lurie’s zoning plan. Campaign organizer Otto Pippenger credited the Chinese community for driving what he called a “successful recall.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Glasses clinked, margaritas sloshed and the energy was electric as supporters toasted the moment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056227\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056227\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-33-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-33-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-33-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-33-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Recall supporters Vera Genkin-Tuttle (left) and Jen Dougherty cheer during an election night party at Celia’s by the Beach in the Sunset District of San Francisco on September 16, 2025, during an election to decide whether to recall Supervisor Joel Engardio. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Roughly 50,000 residents were eligible to vote in the recall, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfelections.org/tools/election_data/turnout_vbm.php\">16,278 ballots\u003c/a> had been submitted as of Tuesday night, according to the Department of Elections.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio continues to support the park. He and his supporters note that the lower portion of the Great Highway is already closed because of coastal erosion. They argue the park is both necessary to adapt to the changing landscape and valuable as a recreation space for residents across the region.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056206\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056206\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-12-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-12-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-12-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-12-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Henry Flynn talks with a man on Judah Street in San Francisco’s Sunset District on Sept. 16, 2025, election day, during the recall vote for Supervisor Joel Engardio.\u003c/span> \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Henry Flynn, a fourth-generation San Franciscan, called the recall “democracy 101,” focusing on the Great Highway closure as a sign that city leaders ignored residents’ wishes. “If a majority votes you in and wants a vital roadway open, ignoring them isn’t democratic,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Flynn, who grew up in the Richmond District, criticized the weekend-only closure and dismissed coastal erosion and maintenance costs as a “scapegoat,” noting the park has created new problems like trash and human waste. On recalls, he said officials who turn their backs on constituents should face consequences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement Tuesday night, Lurie thanked Engardio for his service and District 4 residents “who made their voices heard.” He said many westside families feel that “their government is doing things to them, not with them,” and pledged to continue communicating openly on issues such as public safety, housing and public space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As votes are still being counted and the election will be certified in the coming weeks, our team is evaluating next steps for the District 4 supervisor seat,” Lurie said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12056203\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12056203\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-07-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-07-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-07-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250916-RecallElectionNight-07-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Erin and Jeremy Stewart spoke with precinct inspector Ellen Edelson outside Eagle Pizzeria in San Francisco’s Sunset District on Sept. 16, 2025, election day, during the recall vote for Supervisor Joel Engardio. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>CC Sofronas said she voted early and against the recall. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Sofronas said the city could explore recall reform, noting that frequent recalls may reduce the impact of each vote. She described the campaign as divisive but said it has remained manageable in her neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are strong views on both sides, and some of my closest friends feel differently,” she said. “We can co-exist.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio’s opponents had also cited traffic problems from losing a key thoroughfare in a quiet, residential neighborhood. At a recent public meeting, dozens of recall supporters complained about longer commutes and “bumper to bumper” congestion near the park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An SFMTA study, however, found minimal impact. The city has since adjusted traffic light patterns in the neighborhood. Engardio’s stance on other issues, such as Lurie’s proposal to bring more housing to the Sunset, has also fueled recall momentum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is another huge, generational, landscape-changing subject and he’s doing it more or less with his crowd. It’s totally unfair,” Sunset resident Albert Chow said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055057\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055057\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00180_TV-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00180_TV-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00180_TV-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00180_TV-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Albert Chow (left) and his mother, Mariana Chow (right), discussed the destruction of their business, Great Wall Hardware, by fire in the Sunset District, outside the store on Taraval Street in San Francisco on September 3, 2025. Chinese voters in the Sunset were divided over whether to support the recall of Supervisor Joel Engardio, who backed the proposal to close off the Great Highway to cars and open a new park. \u003ccite>(Tâm Vũ/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Engardio’s supporters say they like the park for expanding access to nature and recreation — and they welcome more housing in the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I love the park. I go there all the time. I have two young kids, so I’m always down there walking my dogs and taking the kids out,” said Lauren Crabbe, a Sunset resident and owner of Andytown Coffee. “I think it’s just a really beautiful reclamation of space.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12035808\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12035808\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-17_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">People attend the grand opening of Sunset Dunes Park on the Upper Great Highway in San Francisco on April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Crabbe said her business has seen an uptick in sales since the park opened this summer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I do credit the park for a lot of that. Our Outer Richmond location has increased a little bit, but not as much as our Sunset locations,” Crabbe said. “It’s encouraging people to spend more time in the Sunset as opposed to just driving around it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lurie will appoint an interim supervisor until the next election in 2026.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How long until the Great Highway reopens to cars? That would require another ballot measure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot of feeling like, ‘How come the other side of the city got to have a say in what happens in the Sunset?’ But it’s important to know that many recallers put their own measure on the ballot in 2022 — and they lost,” Engardio said. “I thought, maybe it’s better to go with more democracy and let everyone have a say, because the coast belongs to everyone, not just one neighborhood.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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But in this district, one of the city’s most densely populated Chinese American neighborhoods, a common refrain among recall proponents is that their voices aren’t being represented.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The most important thing is that we’ve just not been heard,” said Albert Chow, a business owner in the Sunset and one of the most vocal recall supporters. “In fact, a lot felt betrayed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The park at the center of the debate, Sunset Dunes, was approved by voters citywide in 2024 through \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1995182/proposition-k-victory-closing-part-of-the-great-highway-sparks-debate-and-delight\">Proposition K\u003c/a>. Some residents who live closest to the park and voted against it were furious to see it pass, and some continue to fight the road closure in court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chow and others say the park has increased car traffic on nearby avenues, although \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfmta.com/reports/outer-sunset-traffic-report-spring-2025\">an SFMTA study\u003c/a> found minimal impacts. Above all, they were stunned to find out that their supervisor had backed Proposition K.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040913\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040913\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Visitors are seen during the grand opening of the Sunset Dunes Park along the former Upper Great Highway, in San Francisco, on April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Stephen Lam/San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Many of us only found out that this would be on the ballot by Sen. Scott Wiener’s Twitter. That is not transparency, that is betrayal,” said Sunset resident Julia Quon at a recent Democratic Party meeting, where the party \u003ca href=\"https://missionlocal.org/2025/08/sf-democratic-party-no-endorsement-joel-engardio-recall/\">voted not to make an endorsement\u003c/a> in the recall. Quon is a member of the Chinese American Democratic Club, one of the biggest backers of the recall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That sense of betrayal, particularly among the neighborhood’s Chinese American residents, is rooted in history, said Russell Jeung, an Asian American studies professor at San Francisco State University.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“San Francisco has a long history of disenfranchising, redeveloping and evicting Asian American communities. The mayor of San Francisco called for the expulsion of Chinese (people) overall in the 19th century and wanted to get rid of Chinatown,” said Jeung. “That history isn’t forgotten.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio stands by his support for the park, saying he simply gave voters a choice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you boil it down, my recall is over putting something on the ballot. I don’t have the power to close a road or create a park,” Engardio said while going door-to-door on a recent Saturday. “I supported democracy. I supported giving people a choice. I supported letting people vote on an issue.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even if Engardio is recalled, the highway won’t automatically reopen to cars — that would require another ballot measure. If he is removed from office, Mayor Daniel Lurie, who has not endorsed either side of the recall, would appoint an interim supervisor.[aside postID=news_12054762 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-1_qed.jpg']To help get his message across, Engardio said he has a team of “WeChat warriors” — Chinese-speaking volunteers who clarify recall information on the popular messaging app.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Anyone who dares to counter some of the loudest voices on WeChat will be targeted and harassed to no end,” Engardio said. “We have some seniors in their 70s who are old enough to not really care anymore. They just want to speak the truth.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sense of disempowerment among some residents dates back decades for Asian communities in the city, Jeung said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For Asian Americans, we haven’t had that community control — we were segregated in certain neighborhoods like Chinatown, like Japantown, but we didn’t even have control over those small neighborhoods,” Jeung said. “That’s why there’s that heightened sense of disempowerment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the Chinese American community isn’t united on the recall. Many residents testified at the same Democratic Party meeting in support of the supervisor and the park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of the Chinese American community here is saying, ‘If you don’t vote for the recall, you don’t want Chinese voices to be heard.’ I think that’s crazy because I’m Chinese and I want my voice to be heard,” Sunset resident Albert Lam told KQED. The recent college graduate grew up in the neighborhood and now lives with his parents, and said he supports the park for its environmental benefits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12042031\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12042031\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Supervisor Joel Engardio speaks during the Sunset Dunes Park grand opening on the Upper Great Highway in San Francisco on April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Supporters say the road closure was necessary. The lower portion of the highway is already closed due to coastal erosion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s really important that we provide perspective and remember that we’re talking about a road that’s lost its greatest utility, and we’re talking about a park that is increasingly popular,” said Engardio. “People of all ages and backgrounds are benefiting from it, and the road was literally falling into the ocean. So, we had to do something.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ash Guay, a Chinese American westside resident, said she visits Sunset Dunes several times a week and was walking her dog there on a recent Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I get to bike, be along the beach, enjoy the weather, see lots of people with dogs and families,” said Guay, who voted to open the park. “I know people who voted No on [Proposition] K, like friends of mine, but now that they’ve come out here and we all enjoy it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several local businesses, like the owners of Andytown Coffee and florist Bright Moments, told KQED they’ve seen increased sales since the park opened, as more people from across the city and the Bay Area visit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“An underlying theme among the recallers is wanting to keep San Francisco in the past and not being willing to accept change or welcome new people,” Engardio said. “But to me, it’s really important to welcome new people.”[aside postID=news_12055309 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/20250412_SunsetDunesGrandOpening_GC-16_qed.jpg']Engardio is now backing a rezoning proposal that could bring more housing to the westside as part of an effort to meet a statewide mandate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lam said he likes the supervisor’s stance to bring more affordable housing to the Sunset, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The Sunset belongs to everyone, not just a few loud and angry voices,” Lam said. “I’d love to stay here, but it’s just wildly unaffordable to live in San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chow said Engardio’s position on the park and housing threatens the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He wants new people here, a new demographic, a different type of people with a whole different set of values and visions for this part of the city and probably the city in general. I think that is very dangerous,” Chow said in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNvBqZkf57A&t=69s\">promotional video\u003c/a> supporting the recall. “You have not asked our opinion, and at the same time, you want to make essential changes to our neighborhood.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio said he’s focused on protecting existing residents while making the neighborhood more inclusive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The rhetoric Albert Chow and others are using about not wanting new people in the Sunset is the antithesis to what San Francisco is about,” he said. “Every new immigrant, every new LGBTQ person, every new artist and every new innovator benefits our city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055055\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00096_TV-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055055\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00096_TV-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00096_TV-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00096_TV-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00096_TV-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Albert Chow, a business owner of Great Wall in the Sunset District, walks through Taraval Street in San Francisco on September 3, 2025. Chinese voters in the Sunset are split on whether to support the recall of Supervisor Joel Engardio, who backed the proposal to close off the Great Highway to cars and open up a new park. \u003ccite>(Tâm Vũ/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We have to remember that 100 years ago, we took sand dunes and developed it into housing for a lot of immigrants and working families to live in the Sunset. We should continue to do that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Balancing residents’ concerns over the neighborhood will be challenging for whoever represents District 4.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Most people [in the Sunset] have multiple cars and inter-generational households. So how do you balance that with the needs of an evolving urban city?” said David Ho, a political consultant who grew up in the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Jeung, this recall underscores a bigger question: Who gets to shape a neighborhood, in a city with changing demographics and needs?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The question that people should be arguing and complaining about is not whether politicians are betraying us or not, but who should have decision-making over local community decisions,” Jeung said. “This was a citywide election and a popular vote.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The park at the center of the debate, Sunset Dunes, was approved by voters citywide in 2024 through \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/science/1995182/proposition-k-victory-closing-part-of-the-great-highway-sparks-debate-and-delight\">Proposition K\u003c/a>. Some residents who live closest to the park and voted against it were furious to see it pass, and some continue to fight the road closure in court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chow and others say the park has increased car traffic on nearby avenues, although \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfmta.com/reports/outer-sunset-traffic-report-spring-2025\">an SFMTA study\u003c/a> found minimal impacts. Above all, they were stunned to find out that their supervisor had backed Proposition K.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040913\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040913\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/SunsetDunesGetty-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Visitors are seen during the grand opening of the Sunset Dunes Park along the former Upper Great Highway, in San Francisco, on April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Stephen Lam/San Francisco Chronicle via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Many of us only found out that this would be on the ballot by Sen. Scott Wiener’s Twitter. That is not transparency, that is betrayal,” said Sunset resident Julia Quon at a recent Democratic Party meeting, where the party \u003ca href=\"https://missionlocal.org/2025/08/sf-democratic-party-no-endorsement-joel-engardio-recall/\">voted not to make an endorsement\u003c/a> in the recall. Quon is a member of the Chinese American Democratic Club, one of the biggest backers of the recall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That sense of betrayal, particularly among the neighborhood’s Chinese American residents, is rooted in history, said Russell Jeung, an Asian American studies professor at San Francisco State University.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“San Francisco has a long history of disenfranchising, redeveloping and evicting Asian American communities. The mayor of San Francisco called for the expulsion of Chinese (people) overall in the 19th century and wanted to get rid of Chinatown,” said Jeung. “That history isn’t forgotten.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio stands by his support for the park, saying he simply gave voters a choice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you boil it down, my recall is over putting something on the ballot. I don’t have the power to close a road or create a park,” Engardio said while going door-to-door on a recent Saturday. “I supported democracy. I supported giving people a choice. I supported letting people vote on an issue.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even if Engardio is recalled, the highway won’t automatically reopen to cars — that would require another ballot measure. If he is removed from office, Mayor Daniel Lurie, who has not endorsed either side of the recall, would appoint an interim supervisor.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>To help get his message across, Engardio said he has a team of “WeChat warriors” — Chinese-speaking volunteers who clarify recall information on the popular messaging app.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Anyone who dares to counter some of the loudest voices on WeChat will be targeted and harassed to no end,” Engardio said. “We have some seniors in their 70s who are old enough to not really care anymore. They just want to speak the truth.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sense of disempowerment among some residents dates back decades for Asian communities in the city, Jeung said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For Asian Americans, we haven’t had that community control — we were segregated in certain neighborhoods like Chinatown, like Japantown, but we didn’t even have control over those small neighborhoods,” Jeung said. “That’s why there’s that heightened sense of disempowerment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the Chinese American community isn’t united on the recall. Many residents testified at the same Democratic Party meeting in support of the supervisor and the park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of the Chinese American community here is saying, ‘If you don’t vote for the recall, you don’t want Chinese voices to be heard.’ I think that’s crazy because I’m Chinese and I want my voice to be heard,” Sunset resident Albert Lam told KQED. The recent college graduate grew up in the neighborhood and now lives with his parents, and said he supports the park for its environmental benefits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12042031\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12042031\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250412_SUNSETDUNESGRANDOPENING_GC-9-KQED-1-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Supervisor Joel Engardio speaks during the Sunset Dunes Park grand opening on the Upper Great Highway in San Francisco on April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Supporters say the road closure was necessary. The lower portion of the highway is already closed due to coastal erosion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s really important that we provide perspective and remember that we’re talking about a road that’s lost its greatest utility, and we’re talking about a park that is increasingly popular,” said Engardio. “People of all ages and backgrounds are benefiting from it, and the road was literally falling into the ocean. So, we had to do something.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ash Guay, a Chinese American westside resident, said she visits Sunset Dunes several times a week and was walking her dog there on a recent Sunday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I get to bike, be along the beach, enjoy the weather, see lots of people with dogs and families,” said Guay, who voted to open the park. “I know people who voted No on [Proposition] K, like friends of mine, but now that they’ve come out here and we all enjoy it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Several local businesses, like the owners of Andytown Coffee and florist Bright Moments, told KQED they’ve seen increased sales since the park opened, as more people from across the city and the Bay Area visit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“An underlying theme among the recallers is wanting to keep San Francisco in the past and not being willing to accept change or welcome new people,” Engardio said. “But to me, it’s really important to welcome new people.”\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Engardio is now backing a rezoning proposal that could bring more housing to the westside as part of an effort to meet a statewide mandate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lam said he likes the supervisor’s stance to bring more affordable housing to the Sunset, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The Sunset belongs to everyone, not just a few loud and angry voices,” Lam said. “I’d love to stay here, but it’s just wildly unaffordable to live in San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chow said Engardio’s position on the park and housing threatens the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He wants new people here, a new demographic, a different type of people with a whole different set of values and visions for this part of the city and probably the city in general. I think that is very dangerous,” Chow said in a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNvBqZkf57A&t=69s\">promotional video\u003c/a> supporting the recall. “You have not asked our opinion, and at the same time, you want to make essential changes to our neighborhood.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Engardio said he’s focused on protecting existing residents while making the neighborhood more inclusive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The rhetoric Albert Chow and others are using about not wanting new people in the Sunset is the antithesis to what San Francisco is about,” he said. “Every new immigrant, every new LGBTQ person, every new artist and every new innovator benefits our city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055055\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00096_TV-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055055\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00096_TV-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00096_TV-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00096_TV-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250903-SUNSETCHINESERECALL00096_TV-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Albert Chow, a business owner of Great Wall in the Sunset District, walks through Taraval Street in San Francisco on September 3, 2025. Chinese voters in the Sunset are split on whether to support the recall of Supervisor Joel Engardio, who backed the proposal to close off the Great Highway to cars and open up a new park. \u003ccite>(Tâm Vũ/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We have to remember that 100 years ago, we took sand dunes and developed it into housing for a lot of immigrants and working families to live in the Sunset. We should continue to do that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Balancing residents’ concerns over the neighborhood will be challenging for whoever represents District 4.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Most people [in the Sunset] have multiple cars and inter-generational households. So how do you balance that with the needs of an evolving urban city?” said David Ho, a political consultant who grew up in the neighborhood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Jeung, this recall underscores a bigger question: Who gets to shape a neighborhood, in a city with changing demographics and needs?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The question that people should be arguing and complaining about is not whether politicians are betraying us or not, but who should have decision-making over local community decisions,” Jeung said. “This was a citywide election and a popular vote.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Karl Watson remembers the rush of excitement he felt the first time he set eyes on San Francisco’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/embarcadero\">Embarcadero\u003c/a> Plaza in 1988.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Skateboarding teenagers and obstacles that looked designed just for them filled the expanse of concrete and red brick, now faded and pockmarked after years of failed tricks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was like a new world I was entering for the first time,” said Watson, a Bay Area-based professional skateboarder.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He jumped on his board, went for a trick that he now admits he didn’t have the skills to pull off, and fell hard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>James Kelch, whom Watson described as the leader of the famed “\u003ca href=\"https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/emb-30-year-reunion/\">Embarcadero crew,\u003c/a>” approached him, picked him up and sat him on a concave concrete wall the skaters knew affectionately as the “wave.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoHm1g02iIg\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That was my initiation,” Watson said, laughing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The wave itself was torn down decades ago, and now, the city is planning a multimillion-dollar renovation that would destroy another of the plaza’s most iconic features: the Vaillancourt Fountain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Watson is among a growing cohort of skaters, architecture historians and the artist himself who are pushing to preserve the brutalist tangle of boxy concrete pipes that was featured in the background of so many famous skating video parts filmed at the plaza. The fountain, they say, is a part of the city’s history.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A touchstone of street skating\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Embarcadero Plaza — or “EMB” to skaters — is already almost unrecognizable from the spot where Watson spent long days as a teenager in the 1980s and ’90s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The public square across from the Ferry Building once featured blocky concrete steps and ledges, a playground for street skateboarders. It’s since been renovated to add uneven cobblestones, grassy patches and metal skate-stoppers on railings. Two pop-up padel courts tower in the center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055236\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055236\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-05-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-05-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-05-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-05-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Vaillancourt Fountain in the Embarcadero Plaza in San Francisco on Sept. 8, 2025. The 40-foot concrete fountain was designed by artist Armand Vaillancourt and installed in 1971. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The controversial Vaillancourt Fountain has been fenced off since it was deemed a safety hazard in June.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>EMB hasn’t been as prominent a skate spot for years, Watson said, since the city cracked down in the ’90s and renovations at the turn of the century made the landscape less enticing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And aside from a drop-in stunt by famed skater Zachary Kovacs for the cover of \u003cem>Thrasher Magazine\u003c/em>, the Vaillancourt Fountain wasn’t actually skated in — or even too close to — by most.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If our board went in the water … we’d either leave it in there, or fish it out reluctantly,” Watson said, adding that the recycled water turned from blue to green to brown as it grew algae, was peed in and worse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055234\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1200px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055234\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Henry-Sanchez-left-and-John-Cardiel-right-at-Embarcadero_1992_Photo-by-Tobin-Yelland.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"786\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Henry-Sanchez-left-and-John-Cardiel-right-at-Embarcadero_1992_Photo-by-Tobin-Yelland.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Henry-Sanchez-left-and-John-Cardiel-right-at-Embarcadero_1992_Photo-by-Tobin-Yelland-160x105.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(L–R) Henry Sanchez and John Cardiel at the Embarcadero, 1992. \u003ccite>(Tobin Yelland; Courtesy Thrasher magazine)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But since city officials began to talk of removing the Vallaincourt Fountain to make way for a \u003ca href=\"https://sfrecpark.org/1819/Embarcadero-Plaza-and-Sue-Bierman-Park-R\">new waterfront park\u003c/a> last year, historical preservationists, landscape architects and art enthusiasts opposed to its teardown have found an unlikely alliance in a skate community that said the fountain is a touchstone of the sport’s history in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That plaza … and the fountain ended up becoming the epicenter of street skateboarding in the late ’80s and early ’90s,” said Ted Barrow, a San Francisco skate and art historian. “At this moment, when the next generation of the best skateboarders in the world were filming video parts and shooting photos at this plaza, all of the surrounding buildings showed up in the background.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Those landmarks made that spot really easy to find for skateboarders who were visiting San Francisco, and skateboarders started to visit San Francisco because of the videos,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A controversial history\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Canadian artist Armand Vaillancourt debuted the public art piece in 1971 to serve as a sort of counterweight to the towering Embarcadero Freeway that cut off the Financial District’s high-rise apartments and office buildings from the city’s eastern waterfront.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The 30,000 gallons of rushing water that circulated through the fountain every minute distracted from the din of horns and speeding cars, and its brutalist design brought together the freeway and cityscape, Barrow said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055238\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055238\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-10-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-10-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-10-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-10-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Vaillancourt Fountain in the Embarcadero Plaza in San Francisco on Sept. 8, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The fountain has always been mired in controversy — flyers passed out at its opening called it a “\u003ca href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20250305215947/https:/www.newspapers.com/image/460183168/\">loathesome monstrosity\u003c/a>” and crowds cheered when \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/u2-s-bono-cited-as-graffiti-artist-4023631.php\">Bono defaced it\u003c/a> during an impromptu public concert in 1987 — but since the freeway was torn down in the wake of the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake, many have deemed the piece obsolete.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the fountain’s water was shut off during California’s energy crisis from 2001 to 2004, then-Supervisor Aaron Peskin introduced a resolution to remove it, saying it looked out of place without the freeway and was too expensive to operate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Questions about its purpose reemerged when it was again drained for years, along with the rest of San Francisco’s public fountains, in 2014 during California’s severe drought.[aside postID=news_11871628 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2021/05/GettyImages-1032968632-1-1020x794.jpg']Now, it seems plans to demolish the fountain, which ran dry again in June 2024 after its final working pipe gave out, might finally come to fruition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In November, then-Mayor London Breed announced that Embarcadero Plaza would undergo a $25 million transformation, connecting it to the adjacent Sue Bierman Park and creating a 5-acre public square across from the Ferry Building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The news spurred speculation about the fate of the fountain, which wasn’t included in any of the drafted renderings. Vaillancourt, 96, traveled to San Francisco to advocate for his work’s restoration in the spring, but last month, the Recreation and Parks Department confirmed his supporters’ fears, formally requesting permission to remove the fountain from the city’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfartscommission.org/our-role-impact/about-commission/policies-guidelines/Public-ArtCivic-Art-Collection\">Civic Art Collection\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a letter sent to multiple departments last month, Vaillancourt demanded the city cease and desist all efforts to remove his work, and his attorneys say that they — along with a coalition of preservation groups — will take further legal action if needed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also ready to jump into the fight are skaters such as Barrow, who said the fountain is integral to a history the city shouldn’t be so quick to forget.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The EMB Crew\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Barrow remembers watching skate videos featuring Embarcadero Plaza with Vaillaincourt Fountain looming in the background.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I fell in love with San Francisco through those videos, and I’m not alone,” he said. “Every city has these great attractions, and they’re not always what they were intended to be. I think this is one of those things, and it’s kind of appalling to me that they’re even considering destroying this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055235\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1118px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055235\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Skaters-at-Embarcadero_January-1992_photo-by-Kevin-Thatcher_419.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1118\" height=\"739\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Skaters-at-Embarcadero_January-1992_photo-by-Kevin-Thatcher_419.jpg 1118w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Skaters-at-Embarcadero_January-1992_photo-by-Kevin-Thatcher_419-160x106.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1118px) 100vw, 1118px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Skaters at the Embarcadero, 1992. \u003ccite>(Kevin Thatcher; courtesy Thrasher magazine)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Barrow explained that before the late ’80s, people mostly skated in empty backyard pools, skate parks or on wooden half-pipes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Street skating as a style was developed at EMB.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That is factual,” Watson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Skaters who had popularized “sidewalk surfing” in the 1950s were aging and retiring. Meanwhile, a younger generation — galvanized in part by \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW2syroSQTs\">Michael J. Fox’s skateboard chase in \u003cem>Back to the Future\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> —\u003c/em> were arriving on the scene.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79rvMDarQ_E\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Towards the end of the 1980s, street skating as a way of skateboarding started to develop,” Barrow told KQED. “It embraced the non-purpose-built urban environments — so stairs, ledges, what we call gaps, [or] spaces between two blocks of concrete, and smooth surfaces all started to appeal to skateboarders in a certain way. And Embarcadero had those obstacles.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jacob Rosenberg, who describes himself as a more talented filmmaker than skater, spent his teenage years at EMB with a camera, recording young skaters as they invented new tricks and nailed elaborate \u003ca href=\"https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ON+THE+LINE&page=6\">lines\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like many Bay Area kids at the time, he said, he didn’t feel connected to mainstream culture of the ’90s. But in skating’s “EMB crew,” he found a sort of unique, welcoming fringe community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was really where I felt a sense of purpose with my camera for the first time, where I kept coming back and I kept filming the same people, and I watched the culture and the tricks of skateboarding transform right in front of me … in the lens of my camera,” he said. “Those of us who were a part of Embarcadero in the late ’80s and early ’90s … we felt so connected to each other and to skateboarding there, maybe more than any other time in our lives.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055271\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1838px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055271\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/JOVONTAE_TURNER_1990_JACOBROSENBERG-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1838\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/JOVONTAE_TURNER_1990_JACOBROSENBERG-KQED.jpg 1838w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/JOVONTAE_TURNER_1990_JACOBROSENBERG-KQED-160x174.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/JOVONTAE_TURNER_1990_JACOBROSENBERG-KQED-1412x1536.jpg 1412w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1838px) 100vw, 1838px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Javonte Turner skates at Embarcadero Plaza in 1990. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jacob Rosenberg)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Vaillancourt’s brutalist fountain, he said, was the backdrop. Now it’s a relic of that era.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The fountain is this anchor,” he told KQED. “You can’t skate the fountain, but if you were telling someone about the Embarcadero, you’d say, ‘It’s the place with the bricks, with the fountain.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was featured in the \u003cem>Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater\u003c/em> video game, and inspired a movement of urban skating that spread as far as Barcelona and Berlin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>People from all over the world came to San Francisco to skate the iconic wave, and in the years since, generations of skaters have \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11871628/teen-rediscovers-san-franciscos-enduring-skate-spot-emb\">returned to the plaza\u003c/a> where spots like Mark Gonzalez’s “\u003ca href=\"https://www.espn.com/espnw/news-commentary/story/_/id/7360682/history-lesson-embarcadero-gonz-gap\">The Gonz Gap\u003c/a>” were made famous.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘That’s the skateboard experience’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Despite the fountain’s storied history, the skaters say they aren’t really surprised it seems overlooked in the plans for the new plaza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That’s kind of the skateboard experience,” Rosenberg said. “They’re not taken seriously, they’re sort of looked down upon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For the city to take something that really is an incredible place to celebrate, a very rich and unique history that San Francisco should really own … to treat that in a dishonest way is a real irony,” he continued. “As a skater, you’re like, ‘Of course that was what was going to happen.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055270\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1852px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055270\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/FOUNTAIN_1991_JACOBROSENBERG-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1852\" height=\"2000\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/FOUNTAIN_1991_JACOBROSENBERG-KQED.jpg 1852w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/FOUNTAIN_1991_JACOBROSENBERG-KQED-160x173.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/FOUNTAIN_1991_JACOBROSENBERG-KQED-1422x1536.jpg 1422w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1852px) 100vw, 1852px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Vaillancourt Fountain in 1991. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Jacob Rosenberg)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>San Francisco’s Arts Commission is expected to consider the Recreation and Parks Department’s request to remove the Vaillancourt Fountain this fall. Rec and Parks officials estimate that to restore it would cost $29 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the commission does approve the teardown, it could still be stalled by legal action.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vaillancourt’s son Alexis told KQED his father’s attorneys have gotten no response to the cease and desist letter sent to multiple city departments, as well as BXP, the private development company handling the renovation, on Aug. 29.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He believes further litigation, like a request for an injunction, will likely be necessary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city attorney’s office said departments are still reviewing their next steps and no final decision has been made.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Djapy5BkA\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in an email, office spokesperson Jen Kwart called the fountain “a structurally unsound, hazardous structure with no viable path forward short of a multi-million dollar renovation. That’s before considering its long-term maintenance and seismic vulnerability.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition to high renovation and restoration costs, it’s also been maligned as a place unhoused people have used to rest or bathe and is seen by many as an eyesore synonymous with the city’s struggling downtown.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Barrow pointed out that that’s not too dissimilar from the context in which it rose to \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOZwbgbCc-3/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=bDJramY4eTdxcGZ4&hl=en\">now-nostalgic fame\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The early ’90s was a pretty fraught time — just like ours — when it came to fear of cities and fear of youth subcultures,” he said. “Street skating in San Francisco … showed a very diverse group of skateboarders skating in an urban place. Skateboarders had kind of figured out how to be in a city and how to create a community in this era when there was a lot of fear.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He jumped on his board, went for a trick that he now admits he didn’t have the skills to pull off, and fell hard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>James Kelch, whom Watson described as the leader of the famed “\u003ca href=\"https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/emb-30-year-reunion/\">Embarcadero crew,\u003c/a>” approached him, picked him up and sat him on a concave concrete wall the skaters knew affectionately as the “wave.”\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/NoHm1g02iIg'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/NoHm1g02iIg'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>“That was my initiation,” Watson said, laughing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The wave itself was torn down decades ago, and now, the city is planning a multimillion-dollar renovation that would destroy another of the plaza’s most iconic features: the Vaillancourt Fountain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Watson is among a growing cohort of skaters, architecture historians and the artist himself who are pushing to preserve the brutalist tangle of boxy concrete pipes that was featured in the background of so many famous skating video parts filmed at the plaza. The fountain, they say, is a part of the city’s history.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A touchstone of street skating\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Embarcadero Plaza — or “EMB” to skaters — is already almost unrecognizable from the spot where Watson spent long days as a teenager in the 1980s and ’90s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The public square across from the Ferry Building once featured blocky concrete steps and ledges, a playground for street skateboarders. It’s since been renovated to add uneven cobblestones, grassy patches and metal skate-stoppers on railings. Two pop-up padel courts tower in the center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055236\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055236\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-05-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-05-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-05-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-05-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Vaillancourt Fountain in the Embarcadero Plaza in San Francisco on Sept. 8, 2025. The 40-foot concrete fountain was designed by artist Armand Vaillancourt and installed in 1971. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The controversial Vaillancourt Fountain has been fenced off since it was deemed a safety hazard in June.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>EMB hasn’t been as prominent a skate spot for years, Watson said, since the city cracked down in the ’90s and renovations at the turn of the century made the landscape less enticing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And aside from a drop-in stunt by famed skater Zachary Kovacs for the cover of \u003cem>Thrasher Magazine\u003c/em>, the Vaillancourt Fountain wasn’t actually skated in — or even too close to — by most.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If our board went in the water … we’d either leave it in there, or fish it out reluctantly,” Watson said, adding that the recycled water turned from blue to green to brown as it grew algae, was peed in and worse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055234\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1200px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055234\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Henry-Sanchez-left-and-John-Cardiel-right-at-Embarcadero_1992_Photo-by-Tobin-Yelland.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"786\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Henry-Sanchez-left-and-John-Cardiel-right-at-Embarcadero_1992_Photo-by-Tobin-Yelland.jpg 1200w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Henry-Sanchez-left-and-John-Cardiel-right-at-Embarcadero_1992_Photo-by-Tobin-Yelland-160x105.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">(L–R) Henry Sanchez and John Cardiel at the Embarcadero, 1992. \u003ccite>(Tobin Yelland; Courtesy Thrasher magazine)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But since city officials began to talk of removing the Vallaincourt Fountain to make way for a \u003ca href=\"https://sfrecpark.org/1819/Embarcadero-Plaza-and-Sue-Bierman-Park-R\">new waterfront park\u003c/a> last year, historical preservationists, landscape architects and art enthusiasts opposed to its teardown have found an unlikely alliance in a skate community that said the fountain is a touchstone of the sport’s history in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That plaza … and the fountain ended up becoming the epicenter of street skateboarding in the late ’80s and early ’90s,” said Ted Barrow, a San Francisco skate and art historian. “At this moment, when the next generation of the best skateboarders in the world were filming video parts and shooting photos at this plaza, all of the surrounding buildings showed up in the background.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Those landmarks made that spot really easy to find for skateboarders who were visiting San Francisco, and skateboarders started to visit San Francisco because of the videos,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>A controversial history\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Canadian artist Armand Vaillancourt debuted the public art piece in 1971 to serve as a sort of counterweight to the towering Embarcadero Freeway that cut off the Financial District’s high-rise apartments and office buildings from the city’s eastern waterfront.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The 30,000 gallons of rushing water that circulated through the fountain every minute distracted from the din of horns and speeding cars, and its brutalist design brought together the freeway and cityscape, Barrow said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055238\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055238\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-10-BL-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-10-BL-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-10-BL-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/250908-VAILLANCOURTFOUNTAINREMOVAL-10-BL-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Vaillancourt Fountain in the Embarcadero Plaza in San Francisco on Sept. 8, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The fountain has always been mired in controversy — flyers passed out at its opening called it a “\u003ca href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20250305215947/https:/www.newspapers.com/image/460183168/\">loathesome monstrosity\u003c/a>” and crowds cheered when \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/u2-s-bono-cited-as-graffiti-artist-4023631.php\">Bono defaced it\u003c/a> during an impromptu public concert in 1987 — but since the freeway was torn down in the wake of the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake, many have deemed the piece obsolete.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the fountain’s water was shut off during California’s energy crisis from 2001 to 2004, then-Supervisor Aaron Peskin introduced a resolution to remove it, saying it looked out of place without the freeway and was too expensive to operate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Questions about its purpose reemerged when it was again drained for years, along with the rest of San Francisco’s public fountains, in 2014 during California’s severe drought.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Now, it seems plans to demolish the fountain, which ran dry again in June 2024 after its final working pipe gave out, might finally come to fruition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In November, then-Mayor London Breed announced that Embarcadero Plaza would undergo a $25 million transformation, connecting it to the adjacent Sue Bierman Park and creating a 5-acre public square across from the Ferry Building.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The news spurred speculation about the fate of the fountain, which wasn’t included in any of the drafted renderings. Vaillancourt, 96, traveled to San Francisco to advocate for his work’s restoration in the spring, but last month, the Recreation and Parks Department confirmed his supporters’ fears, formally requesting permission to remove the fountain from the city’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfartscommission.org/our-role-impact/about-commission/policies-guidelines/Public-ArtCivic-Art-Collection\">Civic Art Collection\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a letter sent to multiple departments last month, Vaillancourt demanded the city cease and desist all efforts to remove his work, and his attorneys say that they — along with a coalition of preservation groups — will take further legal action if needed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also ready to jump into the fight are skaters such as Barrow, who said the fountain is integral to a history the city shouldn’t be so quick to forget.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The EMB Crew\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Barrow remembers watching skate videos featuring Embarcadero Plaza with Vaillaincourt Fountain looming in the background.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I fell in love with San Francisco through those videos, and I’m not alone,” he said. “Every city has these great attractions, and they’re not always what they were intended to be. I think this is one of those things, and it’s kind of appalling to me that they’re even considering destroying this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12055235\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1118px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12055235\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Skaters-at-Embarcadero_January-1992_photo-by-Kevin-Thatcher_419.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1118\" height=\"739\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Skaters-at-Embarcadero_January-1992_photo-by-Kevin-Thatcher_419.jpg 1118w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/09/Skaters-at-Embarcadero_January-1992_photo-by-Kevin-Thatcher_419-160x106.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1118px) 100vw, 1118px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Skaters at the Embarcadero, 1992. \u003ccite>(Kevin Thatcher; courtesy Thrasher magazine)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Barrow explained that before the late ’80s, people mostly skated in empty backyard pools, skate parks or on wooden half-pipes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Street skating as a style was developed at EMB.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That is factual,” Watson said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Skaters who had popularized “sidewalk surfing” in the 1950s were aging and retiring. Meanwhile, a younger generation — galvanized in part by \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW2syroSQTs\">Michael J. Fox’s skateboard chase in \u003cem>Back to the Future\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> —\u003c/em> were arriving on the scene.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/79rvMDarQ_E'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/79rvMDarQ_E'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>“Towards the end of the 1980s, street skating as a way of skateboarding started to develop,” Barrow told KQED. “It embraced the non-purpose-built urban environments — so stairs, ledges, what we call gaps, [or] spaces between two blocks of concrete, and smooth surfaces all started to appeal to skateboarders in a certain way. And Embarcadero had those obstacles.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jacob Rosenberg, who describes himself as a more talented filmmaker than skater, spent his teenage years at EMB with a camera, recording young skaters as they invented new tricks and nailed elaborate \u003ca href=\"https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ON+THE+LINE&page=6\">lines\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Like many Bay Area kids at the time, he said, he didn’t feel connected to mainstream culture of the ’90s. 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