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"content": "\u003ch2>Airdate: Tuesday, May 26 at 9 AM\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Great museums can drive tourism, and the Bay Area has no shortage of world class institutions. But museums everywhere are facing rising costs, declining fundraising support, and lower attendance. Last month, the Cal Academy of Sciences laid off more than fifty employees. Yet, public support for museums remains high, museums’ clientele has steadily diversified and many museums are managing to do well. With summer around the corner, we’ll check in on the state of Bay Area museums.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>This partial transcript was computer-generated. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alexis Madrigal:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Welcome to \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Forum\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. I’m Alexis Madrigal. A museum is a gathering place for ideas, culture, and knowledge, and we live in a region rich with museums. We’re not quite New York, but we have places like San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, Asian Art Museum, Oakland Museum of California, the San Jose Museum of Art, California Academy of Sciences, the de Young Museum, the Exploratorium, and many smaller institutions like the Cantor Arts Center at Stanford.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">These places are part of elite culture in some ways, but they’re also local spaces where people of all ages can engage with art, science, and history in real life. In an era of Netflix and staying home, how are museums surviving and adapting to changing social, entertainment, and philanthropic landscapes?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Joining us first is Sarah Hotchkiss, senior editor with KQED’s Arts and Culture team. Welcome, Sarah.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Thank you, Alexis. Good morning.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alexis Madrigal:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Let’s start broadly. People have heard news about layoffs at the California Academy of Sciences. The Contemporary Jewish Museum has closed, and the Mexican Museum never opened as planned. Is that the state of museums right now, or are there positive signs elsewhere?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I think it’s a mix. There really are positive signs. We have such an amazing range of museums here. We have major collecting institutions like SFMOMA, but also non-collecting spaces. Across from the Contemporary Jewish Museum—and hopefully near the future home of the Mexican Museum—Yerba Buena Center for the Arts has had an incredible comeback with vital programming.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We also have the Museum of the African Diaspora, which is doing well, and smaller cultural institutions like the Museum of Craft and Design. 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It now takes more to get people out.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">It’s also extremely expensive to live in the Bay Area. If someone has to decide between groceries and spending forty or fifty dollars on a museum visit for an entire family, that’s a difficult choice.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Alexis Madrigal:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Are all museums facing similar issues? Some have massive buildings and collections, while others may simply be galleries with rotating exhibitions.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sarah Hotchkiss:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We’re talking about a huge range of institutions with very different financial realities. Some are paying off loans from major expansions. Some maintain collections of art or even living animals. 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"content": "\u003ch2>Airdate: Monday, April 13 at 10 AM\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Thirty years ago, journalist Amy Goodman premiered the daily radio show Democracy Now. Launched on nine community radio stations in 1996, the program now broadcasts on over 1,400 television and radio stations worldwide. Along the way, Goodman and Democracy Now\u003ci> \u003c/i>provided groundbreaking coverage of the Standing Rock protests, Chevron’s alleged corruption in Nigeria and illnesses linked to toxins after 9/11. The new documentary “Steal This Story, Please!” recounts Goodman’s career. We’ll talk with her about the documentary, three decades of Democracy Now and the role of independent journalism in today’s news landscape.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>This partial transcript was computer-generated. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mina Kim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Welcome to Forum. I’m Mina Kim. When the independent news show \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Democracy Now!\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> launched thirty years ago, it broadcast on some nine community radio stations. Today, it’s on more than fourteen hundred radio and television stations worldwide.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A new documentary looks at the life and career of its host since \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Democracy Now!\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘s inception, Amy Goodman, with plenty of moments featuring what director Tia Lessin describes as Goodman’s sheer audacity. 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It’s great to be on this show doing this program. I can’t think of a better birthday, quite seriously.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, for today, everything is so crazy because the film \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Steal This Story, Please\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> just opened on Friday. And so it’s interview after interview, Q and A after Q and A, after the films. Tonight, Susan Sarandon is going to do the moderation, and yesterday it was Peter Sarsgaard and Maggie Gyllenhaal, and they conducted the Q and A with Tia Lessin, who we’ll hear from, and Carl Deal.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But the film opened with Rosario Dawson introducing it because she’s one of the executive producers. So it’s been quite an amazing weekend.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mina Kim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oh, wow. Well, we are honored that you are starting your birthday with us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, you know, speaking of the opening to your documentary, one of the things I learned off the bat that both surprised me and brought a big smile to my face was learning that you were a big fan of \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Phil Donahue Show\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> and wanted to work with them.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Amy Goodman:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Absolutely. Are you kidding? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I started, at the end of college, watching him every day, and I lived in the bottom of my co-op. 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Climate Summit as he tries to run away.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>\u003ci>Steal This Story, Please! \u003c/i>\u003c/b>\u003cb>clip:\u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Amy Goodman: Can you explain why you won’t answer any questions on the issue of climate change, or why the U.S. is here?\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Trump policy advisor: If you would like to set up an interview, we could do that. But you’re actually harassing me.\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Amy Goodman: A reporter asking you a question, sir, is not harassment.\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mina Kim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> The documentary is called \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Steal This Story, Please\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. And listeners, what do you want to ask or tell Amy Goodman? Amy, welcome to Forum.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Amy Goodman:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oh, it’s so great to be with you. A real honor.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mina Kim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> And happy birthday, I understand. It’s your birthday today.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Amy Goodman:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> It is. It’s great to be on this show doing this program. I can’t think of a better birthday, quite seriously.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, for today, everything is so crazy because the film \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Steal This Story, Please\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> just opened on Friday. And so it’s interview after interview, Q and A after Q and A, after the films. Tonight, Susan Sarandon is going to do the moderation, and yesterday it was Peter Sarsgaard and Maggie Gyllenhaal, and they conducted the Q and A with Tia Lessin, who we’ll hear from, and Carl Deal.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But the film opened with Rosario Dawson introducing it because she’s one of the executive producers. So it’s been quite an amazing weekend.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mina Kim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oh, wow. Well, we are honored that you are starting your birthday with us.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And, you know, speaking of the opening to your documentary, one of the things I learned off the bat that both surprised me and brought a big smile to my face was learning that you were a big fan of \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Phil Donahue Show\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> and wanted to work with them.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Amy Goodman:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Absolutely. Are you kidding? \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I started, at the end of college, watching him every day, and I lived in the bottom of my co-op. And the other person living there was, I guess you’d describe him as a hobo from World War II who had squatted there for decades.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Me and Damon Payne — there’s a whole Hollywood movie made about him, by the way — but me and Damon Payne, I’d go into the living room, and he would smoke up a storm, and I would say, “Damon, there’s one rule here. I have to be able to watch the show. You can only smoke during commercials. I can’t have to wave the smoke away.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And at the end of the program, when I was graduating, I just wrote down — he helped me a little, Damon — I said, “Catch every other name.” You know, we didn’t have TiVo or playback, and it took me several weeks to write down every name. I thought the most important person was best boy because he was best, right? I didn’t know what the roles were.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But I wrote down every name and then sent them all my very thin résumé. And I knew that at some point I would get a call from \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Phil Donahue\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">. And they did call, and they said, “Have you gotten a job yet?”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I said, “No, I haven’t.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And they said, “Are you available tomorrow?”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And I said, “Absolutely. I’ll come in on the Long Island Rail Road.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And they said, “Great, because we’re doing a show on the unemployed, and we’d like you in the audience.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mina Kim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> So brutal! And I do just love imagining you trying to catch the names in the credits of the show as fast as you can so that you could send your résumé to the people, to try to get on a big commercial TV show, essentially.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But the other reason, Amy, that it brought such a smile to my face was because my mom was a fan of the show and watched it regularly when I was a kid. And now I really wish I’d watched it with her, given what I’m doing now, because Donahue, of course, is a live talk show that involved the audience.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Amy Goodman:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Right. And as we say in the film, I came to know Phil, and he really dealt with serious issues. Yeah, a lot of superficial stuff and celebrity stuff, but also a lot of serious issues. And in two thousand three, I mean, he was the big guy on the block. He was Oprah before Oprah.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">In two thousand three, when the U.S. invaded Iraq, he had a show on MSNBC. It was the most popular show. It was, I think, eight o’clock in the evenings, and he was bringing on a lot of anti-war voices. And they dumped him, even though he was their most popular show, right before the war. And there was a memo that we got and put into our book, which said, “We don’t want all these anti-war voices when the rest of the media is waving the American flag.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And that is exactly the time, by the way, when we need an independent media. There’s no more serious decision than going to war, when we need the media not to circle the wagons around the White House, but to ask the serious questions, because it’s about whether U.S. service members kill or be killed. It’s about whether people at the target end are killed.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">These are the times we need an independent press.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mina Kim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah. And you’ve been sounding the alarm for a long time about the dangers of corporate-owned media, and that’s an example, right?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But also, this past year has given us probably the starkest examples of why corporate media is so dangerous, no?\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Amy Goodman:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Oh, absolutely. For thirty years, we’ve been sounding the alarm about corporate media. And I must say, in the beginning, I’d come to know many journalists who work within the networks. I’d be invited on shows, and we’d have discussions off mic. And they would say, “Give us a break. Come on. We’re trying our hardest here.” And I understand. They want a wide platform, and this is the possibility. But how much can they get accomplished is a serious question, and you have to figure it out if you’re inside or outside that system. But those very journalists are saying now, “You’re not yelling about the corporate media loud enough.”\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">I mean, look at what just happened over the last weeks. You have \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Washington Post\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> gutted. A third of the journalists — hundreds — have been laid off. \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Washington Post\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> is owned by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, who just gave forty million dollars to the Trumps for the Melania documentary, and then spent another thirty-five million on publicity for it.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">That was really currying favor. And then I wonder if the newsroom cuts were currying favor. You know, President Trump was made by the media. There is no one who understands the media more than Donald Trump.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">He attacks as hard as he can. He calls the media the enemy of the people, and nothing could be further from the truth. And the way he castigates and insults, especially women journalists of color — saying, “Be quiet, piggy,” saying, “You’re ugly, you’re stupid, why don’t you smile?” when they’re asking about dead service members — it is inexcusable.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And banning reporters, forcing them to sign oaths like at the Pentagon that they won’t reveal classified information unless it’s approved by the Pentagon. Of course, a judge has overturned this not once, but twice, and many journalists and news organizations have said no, they won’t sign.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mina Kim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Talk about the greatest impacts, the greatest losses for a public, for a democracy, with not just the exercises of this president against the media, but also the capitulation that we’ve seen.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Amy Goodman:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> I mean, you have, as you said, Mina, CBS, right? \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">60 Minutes\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> is part of CBS, and they do an interview with Kamala Harris. They edit that interview. I mean, we all do this.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">When you’re taping an interview, you talk to someone for an hour, but you can only put ten minutes on. And President Trump sues CBS now because of the editing of that interview. I don’t think it would have stood up in court for much of a minute.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">But instead, CBS settles because the fifteen or sixteen million dollars they give to President Trump pales in comparison to the something like six billion dollars in the merger between Paramount and Skydance taking over CBS. So they needed to curry favor there.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">And now it’s the Ellisons who run that whole media network — Larry Ellison and his son, David Ellison. These are very serious times. And the critical issue here is media and newsrooms don’t necessarily make a multinational company money. They’re not the profit-making arm exactly.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">If that’s the standard that’s going to be used, we’re going to lose all newsrooms, because newsrooms serve a different purpose. They’re essential to the functioning of a democratic society. And the First Amendment, which protects freedom of the press, is important because ultimately it’s about the public’s right to know.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Mina Kim:\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Yeah. It made me think so much about the title of your show, \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Democracy Now!\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, reminding us that democracy is something that we have to fight for every day, in the present and always.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">We’re coming up on a break, and I want to remind listeners that you can call eight six six seven three three six seven eight six, email forum at KQED dot org, or find us on our social channels — Discord, Bluesky, Facebook, Instagram — to tell us what you want to ask Amy Goodman.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Are you a longtime listener or viewer of \u003c/span>\u003ci>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Democracy Now!\u003c/span>\u003c/i>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">? Tell us why. 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"content": "\u003ch2>Airdate: Thursday, April 2 at 9 AM\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In 2014, San Francisco committed to an effort to end traffic fatalities and severe injuries called “Vision Zero.” But severe injuries from cars have not come anywhere close to the goal of zero. Six pedestrians have been killed in the last couple months in the city. San Francisco has passed a new “Street Safety Act,” but will it work better than the old Vision Zero plan? We’ll talk about what can be done to reduce pedestrian being hit by cars and check in on San Francisco’s progress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>This partial transcript was computer-generated. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"169\" data-end=\"671\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"169\" data-end=\"189\">Alexis Madrigal:\u003c/strong> Welcome to \u003cem data-start=\"201\" data-end=\"208\">Forum\u003c/em>. I’m Alexis Madrigal. If you look at a chart of per capita traffic deaths since the year 2000 for wealthier countries like South Korea, Australia, Canada, the U.K., and the U.S.—pretty much everywhere—you see massive declines from the turn of the millennium until 2014. But after that, something major changes. While those other countries have seen traffic deaths continue to go down, our traffic fatalities start to go up, so that by now, we’re a clear outlier.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"673\" data-end=\"1114\">That’s a national problem, but you might imagine San Francisco would be better. After all, the city committed to Vision Zero back in 2014, a concept that originated in Sweden that set out the goal to end traffic deaths. And yes, San Francisco’s per capita traffic fatalities are some of the lowest in the nation. But if you look at fatalities per vehicle mile traveled, San Francisco becomes the worst performer out of the Bay Area counties.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1116\" data-end=\"1435\">In particular, there’s been a spate of pedestrians killed by drivers over the last couple of months. So we’ve made progress, but there are still places to go to make our roads safer. Here to tell us about them, we’re joined by Jodie Medeiros, who is executive director of the advocacy group Walk San Francisco. Welcome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1437\" data-end=\"1498\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1437\" data-end=\"1456\">Jodie Medeiros:\u003c/strong> Thank you, Alexis. We’re glad to be here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1500\" data-end=\"1678\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1500\" data-end=\"1520\">Alexis Madrigal:\u003c/strong> Great to have you. We’re also joined by Viktoriya Wise, who’s director of the streets division at the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency. Welcome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1680\" data-end=\"1730\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1680\" data-end=\"1699\">Viktoriya Wise:\u003c/strong> Good morning. Good to be here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1732\" data-end=\"1877\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1732\" data-end=\"1752\">Alexis Madrigal:\u003c/strong> So let’s start with you, Jodie. A pedestrian was killed last Friday—that’s six deaths in six weeks, we think. What happened?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1879\" data-end=\"2217\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1879\" data-end=\"1898\">Jodie Medeiros:\u003c/strong> At Walk San Francisco, we really believe that nobody should risk their life just walking down the street. But in San Francisco, as you mentioned, three people are hit every day. And behind every serious crash—whether fatal or not—are families whose lives have changed forever. These are incidents that are preventable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2219\" data-end=\"2600\">With six pedestrians killed in six weeks, including a child, that’s really a call for action. Annually, pedestrians make up over half of traffic deaths. These are people simply walking, and they’re bearing the biggest burden of the city not managing this like the crisis that it is. That’s why Walk San Francisco exists—we center our work on the people impacted by traffic crashes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2602\" data-end=\"2934\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2602\" data-end=\"2622\">Alexis Madrigal:\u003c/strong> When you look at this, Viktoriya, it’s hard to get any statistic in a large city down to zero. But it’s obvious that pedestrian deaths are still happening a lot right now. Where do you start? Do you go to a map of the most dangerous places and say, “Okay, these are where we need to go”? How do you approach it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2936\" data-end=\"3284\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2936\" data-end=\"2955\">Viktoriya Wise:\u003c/strong> First of all, let me just say it’s been a devastating six weeks or so. It’s really hard to have people die on the streets of San Francisco. And where I start is with the philosophy behind it—thinking about our culture and the fact that we’ve come to accept pedestrian fatalities and severe injuries as a kind of cost of driving.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3286\" data-end=\"3633\">Our goal in San Francisco, and in many cities, is to reduce and ultimately eliminate all fatalities. I don’t want any of us—or any of the listeners—to get a phone call saying your family member, your spouse, your child has been in a severe crash or, God forbid, has died. All of our work is centered around preventing and minimizing these crashes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3635\" data-end=\"3962\">From a high-level perspective, we want to reduce those numbers. And while we can talk about progress and data, where we do start is with data. Last week, the city published a high-injury network map. That’s 13% of streets where 78% of fatalities and severe injuries happen. So we know the dangerous streets we need to focus on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3964\" data-end=\"4195\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3964\" data-end=\"3984\">Alexis Madrigal:\u003c/strong> We’re talking about San Francisco’s efforts to improve pedestrian safety. We’re joined by Viktoriya Wise, director of the streets division at SFMTA, and Jodie Medeiros, executive director of Walk San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4197\" data-end=\"4473\">We’re talking about streets that feel unsafe or could use traffic calming or other measures. Is there one in your neighborhood? You can give us a call: 866-733-6786. What’s happening there, and what would you like to see done? Again, 866-733-6786. The email is \u003ca class=\"decorated-link cursor-pointer\" rel=\"noopener\" data-start=\"4458\" data-end=\"4472\">forum@kqed.org\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4475\" data-end=\"4643\">Viktoriya, I want to come back to Vision Zero. It was adopted in 2014. Do you think it helped the city make progress? And was it effective to set such a difficult goal?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4645\" data-end=\"4932\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4645\" data-end=\"4664\">Viktoriya Wise:\u003c/strong> I think it absolutely helped the city make progress, and it was effective. First of all, we’ve had a lot of learnings from Vision Zero. We started out focusing on engineering solutions, enforcement, and education campaigns, but we’ve learned a lot in the last decade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4934\" data-end=\"5430\">In particular, we’ve learned that people make mistakes—that’s inevitable. So how do we build systems that mitigate the impact of those mistakes? Over the last decade, we’ve adopted what’s called the Safe Systems approach. We look at the systems we put together: roadway design, post-crash care, vehicle design, and human behavior—like not driving drunk, wearing a helmet, or not riding scooters on sidewalks. And of course, speed, which is the number one factor in fatalities and severe injuries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5432\" data-end=\"5789\">Bringing all of that together is how we’re approaching the next decade. It’s now a nationally recognized best practice. In San Francisco, we’re moving in that direction collectively—with policymakers, the Board of Supervisors under the leadership of Myrna Melgar, and our mayor, who issued an executive directive last December for a Safe Streets initiative.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5791\" data-end=\"6006\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5791\" data-end=\"5811\">Alexis Madrigal:\u003c/strong> Jodie, from your perspective, some of the things Viktoriya mentioned—like redesigning cars—are difficult for a city to accomplish. How would you prioritize making the city safer for pedestrians?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6008\" data-end=\"6215\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6008\" data-end=\"6027\">Jodie Medeiros:\u003c/strong> There are two things the city has done recently that point to real progress. I agree with Viktoriya—Vision Zero is a work in progress. Now that we know what works, we need to double down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6217\" data-end=\"6470\">In 2019, SFMTA started an innovative “quick-build” program. This is about redesigning streets that were built for vehicles so they work better for people walking, biking, and so on—using lower-cost materials to test designs before making them permanent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6472\" data-end=\"6718\">In the Tenderloin, over six years, 100% of streets received these treatments, and pedestrian-involved collisions have been reduced by 30 to 50%. That’s real progress. In 2019, there were four pedestrian fatalities there; in 2025, there were zero.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6720\" data-end=\"6948\">The second thing is speed cameras. Walk San Francisco and our partners at Families for Safe Streets spent ten years pushing for legislation in Sacramento. 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