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The researchers used a different definition of middle income, capping it at $137,500 for a family of four.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We do see over time that as the cost of housing increases in California relative to the rest of the country, we do see people moving out at higher rates,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s been true since at least 2010, McGhee said, but he said the trend has become more pronounced in the past 10 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the pandemic, higher-income residents were leaving the state at a higher rate than in the past, according to McGhee and other researchers at the Public Policy Institute of California. The rise in remote work precipitated that trend, he said, but it has recently slowed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re also seeing that particular part of it dial back,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When it comes to policy recommendations for retaining lower- and middle-income residents, Briones said more research is needed. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>The trend is even more pronounced among families that are considered lower middle income, with that population seeing a 35% drop in population. That includes families earning between 80% and 120% of area median income.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report didn’t look at why people were leaving, but other studies have \u003ca href=\"https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/californias-population-drain\">pointed to high housing costs\u003c/a> as one \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/publication/whats-behind-californias-recent-population-decline-and-why-it-matters/\">main driver\u003c/a> for middle-income residents, and especially lower-middle-income residents, to leave the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eric McGhee, at the Public Policy Institute of California, said \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/blog/whos-leaving-california-and-whos-moving-in/\">his organization’s research\u003c/a> into the trend also found it was especially pronounced among lower- and middle-income residents. The researchers used a different definition of middle income, capping it at $137,500 for a family of four.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We do see over time that as the cost of housing increases in California relative to the rest of the country, we do see people moving out at higher rates,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s been true since at least 2010, McGhee said, but he said the trend has become more pronounced in the past 10 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the pandemic, higher-income residents were leaving the state at a higher rate than in the past, according to McGhee and other researchers at the Public Policy Institute of California. The rise in remote work precipitated that trend, he said, but it has recently slowed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re also seeing that particular part of it dial back,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When it comes to policy recommendations for retaining lower- and middle-income residents, Briones said more research is needed. His organization helped shape a down-payment assistance program, California Dream For All, that rolled out last year. It provided loans for up to 20% of the down payment on homes for residents who made up to 150% of the area median income that is repaid when the homeowner sells the house, along with 20% of the home’s appreciation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That program had so much demand its \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/housing/2023/04/california-first-time-homebuyer-assistance-demographics/\">funding was exhausted within 11 days\u003c/a> of its launch. A \u003ca href=\"https://www.calhfa.ca.gov/dream/\">second round\u003c/a> of funding is scheduled to roll out in April.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California Community Builders is also sponsoring a bill, \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2140\">Assembly Bill 2140\u003c/a>, that would direct the state to study the creation of a large-scale homeownership financing program for middle-income residents. Briones emphasized the intent of the legislation is not to propose any programs that would be funded at the expense of supporting low-income residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We truly don’t think that those two groups are at odds,” Briones said, adding the policy question the legislation hopes to consider is, “How do we create more resources for affordable homeownership that does not reduce resources for affordable rental housing?”\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#episode-transcript\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California’s primary is just around the corner, on March 5, 2024. This year, there’s a statewide Proposition on your primary ballot, but don’t worry we’ve got you covered. Prop. 1 asks voters two big questions: Should mental health funding be used for housing? And should the state borrow money to build more housing and treatment facilities? There’s tons of interesting stuff to dig into on this one.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> California. Primary day is just around the corner on March 5th, and this year Californians have a lot to consider. We’ve got the presidential primary. Of course, there’s a contentious Senate race and lots happening on the local level. And then we’ve got proposition one all about funding for mental health care and housing for the state’s most vulnerable residents. Here’s how prop one will read on your ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Voice Over:\u003c/strong> Authorizes $6.38 billion in bonds to build mental health treatment facilities for those with mental health and substance use challenges. It provides housing for the homeless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Now, there are two big questions being asked in this prop should mental health funding be used for housing? And should the state borrow money to build more housing and treatment facilities? There is lots of interesting stuff to discuss here. We’ll dig in just ahead on be curious. I’m Olivia Allen Price. It is always a pleasure when prop voting time rolls around, because it means I get to talk to KQED politics correspondent guy Maserati. Hey, Guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Hey, Olivia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> It’s been a minute, but here we are in a big election year. One of the first decisions that California voters are going to make is which way to go on prop one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> That’s right. Proposition one is actually two pretty big ideas that are rolled up into one proposition. So it’s a bond measure. It’s also a reallocation of existing funds. So this was placed on the ballot by the state legislature because they need to go to the voters to get approval if they want to issue a bond. They also need to go to the voters to make a change to a ballot measure that voters previously approved back in 2004. So here we are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> We’ll go step by step through all the moving parts of this one. But first, guy, can you walk us through the problems that proposition one is aiming to solve?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah. The big idea behind the proposition is focusing state dollars on people who are experiencing homelessness and who have severe behavioral health issues. So we know Californians who are experiencing homelessness. It’s not a monolith. You have people who maybe, you know, fell behind on rent, maybe people who are just looking for an affordable place to live. Prop one is not focused on those folks. But, there are a lot of people who are experiencing homelessness in California who have added challenges on top of that. UCSF did their massive study of the state’s homeless population. They found 27% of people living without shelter have been hospitalized for a mental health issue. They also found 65% of those people who are living without shelter have reported heavy substance abuse. These are the kinds of people who are prop one is aimed at helping.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So the idea is that of all the people in the state who are facing mental health challenges, these Californians, the ones who are living on the streets or at risk of living on the streets, are the ones who need to be prioritized. And so that’s where you get to kind of the political piece of all of this, which is that homelessness is a top priority for voters, especially kind of the visible suffering of people that you see on the streets. That’s become such a huge political issue, and it’s become a big issue for the man who is backing prop one. Governor Gavin Newsom, this is part of his kind of big swing to try to fix this issue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Okay. And broadly, what are we considering in proposition one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> So voters are being asked if the state should borrow money to build treatment facilities, build supportive housing, and if it should also change how existing mental health money gets spent, mainly by using more of that mental health money to build housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Let’s dig into the details a bit more now. Like we said a minute ago, this prop has sort of two arms. And I want to start with that first arm the bond. Now a quick bond refresher. A bond is essentially a loan the government takes out to fund certain projects. In this case, it’s a loan the state will pay back with interest over the next 30 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Right. So prop one would allow the state to borrow money by issuing $6.38 billion in bonds. Most of that money, about $4.4 billion, is going to go towards building treatment facilities. Now, this is for, like we mentioned, the thousands of Californians who have mental health needs, who have substance abuse issues, who are at risk or are actually living on the street. So that could be kind of a short term crisis care facility or longer term, you know, residential facilities, rehab communities and even, you know, some outpatient services. So that’s about 4.4 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then the rest of the measure, roughly 2 billion, that’s going to go towards building affordable apartments that come with kind of onsite behavioral health services. Of that 2 billion. Now we’re breaking this down further. Of that 2 billion. About 1 billion would be specifically for veterans who have behavioral health challenges. So again, we’re talking about helping people who are most visibly suffering, people who are having, you know, psychotic episodes on the street, people who are living in tents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> So what is all this investment actually going to do?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Supporters of prop one say by spending this bond money, they’re going to be able to create 4350 housing units, another 6800 treatment slots. Obviously, this is all a drop in the bucket for the overall homeless population in California, which is estimated to be more than 180,000 people. But again, the idea of prop one is a focus less focus on a subgroup of people who are experiencing homelessness. Newsom says prop one is the solution to the decades of unintended consequences that kicked off when California closed its state mental hospitals, but didn’t create alternative places for people to live and get care. Here’s Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gavin Newsom:\u003c/strong> The reforms that took place in the late 50s, in the 60s and the 70s, that bipartisan endeavor around deinstitutionalization. We had a peak 37,000, beds in the state of California in the 60s, 37,000 beds. Today, it’s about 5500.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> We actually do have a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11209729/did-the-emptying-of-mental-hospitals-contribute-to-homelessness-here\">Bay Curious episode about the closing of state mental hospitals and its impact on homelessness\u003c/a>. We’ll put a link in the show notes and transcript for this episode if you want to check that out. Guy, is there more detail on how this money will be allocated, like specific projects or even how much would go to, say, Alameda County versus Los Angeles County or anything like that? Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> That all hasn’t been laid out yet. I will say Newsom’s chief of staff, toxic KQED last summer about this prop. She said the administration, even though this had just started to move towards the ballot, they’re already looking at locations to build or refurbish, potential places with this bond money. I think really acknowledging that the process of building anything in California just takes a really long time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> [00:06:50] Another discussion for another time. I think it’s always worth remembering that bond money isn’t free if voters approve it. How will this bond impact Californians over time?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Right. So California would have to repay the bonds back over 30 years out of the state’s general fund. That’s where all our tax money ends up. And that works out to about $310 million a year, which because we’re talking about a really massive state budget, it’s actually only about one half of 1% of the general fund. Now, the state would have to pay interest on top of all of that. So over the course of three decades, we’d pay about $9 billion, not adjusted for inflation, to pay back what is a $6.38 billion bond on the ballot?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Okay, now on to the second arm of proposition one. So this measure would change how money collected for mental health services under Prop 63, which passed in 2004, is distributed. Okay. Start by taking us back 20 years to when voters approved the Mental Health Services Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah, this was really wild for me. Going back and looking at the coverage of that campaign back in 2004, because the issues that the supporters of Prop 63 were trying to address are so similar to what supporters of prop one are talking about right now. It’s basically a feeling that since those state hospitals closed, California really stopped providing the necessary care for people who have these severe mental health challenges. And the result has been those same people end up on the streets, in tents in our county jails. So what the Mental Health Services Act did back in 2004 was create this 1% tax on income over $1 million. It’s since been kind of colloquially known as the millionaires tax. And that created this new bucket of money that the state could use for mental health services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> So voters passed the Mental Health Services Act, which generates between two and a half and $3 billion per year. And that money now funds about a third of mental health services budgets for counties around the state. What counties especially like about this money is they have a lot of say in how it gets used. There aren’t a lot of strings attached.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Darrell Steinberg, who is currently the mayor of Sacramento back then in 2004, he was in the legislature and actually helped write the original Mental Health Services Act. He says the measure has been successful. It’s paid for a lot of services all across the state, from counseling to drop in centers to early intervention, having people come in to schools and classrooms and help teachers identify kids who might have mental health challenges. But he says the reason that all these years later, he’s now one of the leading supporters of changing it is because there hasn’t been enough focus on housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Darrell Steinberg:\u003c/strong> I think the counties have actually spent the money well, but what they haven’t done is spent it in a way that was focused on the most critical issues affecting our state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> So the trade off that supporters of prop one are pitching to voters is basically, let’s give up the flexibility in how this money is spent in exchange for adding greater focus, specifically focus on housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Tell me more about how they would limit flexibility that the counties have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> So under prop one, if it passes, counties would be required to spend 30% of that millionaire tax money they get from the state, specifically on housing. So that could mean providing rental subsidies, building new housing, converting things like motels into housing with supportive services. So this would leave counties then with less money to spend on some of the other programs and services they’ve been providing in the mental health space. So they need to find the money elsewhere. Or in the case a lot of opponents are concerned about, they would need to scale back or cut some of these programs. Paul Simmons is one of the leaders of the No on prop one campaign. He recently led Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance California, which provides peer support for people with depression bipolar disorder. He says service providers in similar positions are really worried.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Paul Simmons:\u003c/strong> Adult respite centers and wellness centers are very, very much at risk. All peer support programs are just scared to death right now that they’re going to lose any funding they got from from the MSA funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And you also have county governments who are really concerned about prop one, because right now they’re the ones that are getting this millionaires tax money. They are concerned that more of this money would go to the state. The state wants more say on how the millionaires tax money is spent. So you have many county supervisors who have come out against prop one. They’re concerned that if it passes, they’re going to have to cancel contracts with community based organizations or even perhaps reduce county staff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Right now, 95% of that million in our tax money goes to counties. What would that look like under prop one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Under prop one, it would be more like 90% with the state using its cut for things like increasing just the number of mental health care workers. And one other change I should note here is that counties under prop one would be able to spend some of this money on housing for folks who just have drug and alcohol addiction challenges, you know, substance abuse issues. They may not have a dual diagnosis, mental health issue. And right now, all the Mental Health Services Act funding under Prop 63, the millionaires tax, all of that has to be used for people with mental health conditions. This would actually change the name of the entire thing to the Behavioral Health Services Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> I see, so by calling it the behavioral rather than the Mental Health Services Act, it really broadens out the group of people who could be served by the money guy. Would this increase taxes for anybody?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> No. And this is actually what makes this kind of controversial. It doesn’t increase the millionaires tax that funds the current Mental Health Services Act. So opponents of prop one say you have the same pot of money. You’re just stretching it in all these new directions by trying to focus on housing. Now, supporters like Newsom will say, that’s not the whole picture. There are all these other initiatives happening, you know, like Cal Aim, which try to get, for example, health plans to pay for some of these mental health services that prop 63, the Mental Health Services Act, has been doing for the last two. Years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> What else do opponents have to say about this one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> So I think just like we broke down the measure into a couple parts, it might be helpful to break down where opponents are coming from on this pretty, pretty complex measure. So let’s start with the bonds. You have the state borrowing a lot of money to build these treatment facilities, supportive apartments. So you have conservatives, anti-tax groups like the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association. They oppose taking on that debt. And then there’s other conservatives who kind of jump on and say, we also don’t agree with the Housing First policy here, which is when someone with, say, a substance abuse problem is given housing before going through treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then there’s another piece of this, which is about what kind of housing can be built with this bond money, because prop one actually allows the money to be spent on locked facilities. These are, you know, places where people might get placed as a result of a conservatorship, where treatment is not voluntary. And this is pretty controversial. You get opposition not from conservatives on this, but you get opposition from groups like Disability Rights California, for example, who say these kind of lock facilities violate civil liberties and don’t have proven outcomes. Now, supporters of prop one say this is not going to be a huge piece of all the new facilities that get built, but that’s really an open question going forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> And what about the changes to how the existing prop 63 millionaires tax money is spent? Who is opposed to that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that piece of prop one is opposed by some service providers, folks like Paul Simmons, who say if you’re focusing on helping people who are the most visible have the most acute needs, that’s a poor investment. If you’re taking that money from programs that try to provide help with mental health, substance abuse, when people are in school or when they’re in counseling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Paul Simmons:\u003c/strong> But really, what they’re doing, from my perspective, is to take the money from the early intervention, take it from the upstream part and throw it all into downstream. You know, where people are having more trouble and in fact, forcing more people downstream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And so folks like Simmons are worried that if California puts less funding toward preventative upstream programs that support people you know, before their problems are most severe, we’re actually going to worsen some of the state’s problems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> And who is in support of proposition one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah, the biggest name in support is Governor Gavin Newsom. You know, for all the attention he’s gotten on political stunts, campaigning across the country, debating Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, the biggest policy focus he’s had in Sacramento has been at this intersection of behavioral health and homelessness. So just in the last few years, the governor signed bills to create care courts. So this kind of compels treatment, housing for people with severe mental illness. He also signed bills making it easier to place people in a conservative ship. Prop one is the latest step in that direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gavin Newsom:\u003c/strong> This is, I think, the last big piece. We’ve got we’ve just we’ve radically changed the way we’re doing business. We created more flexibility, more tools, more accountability, more resources. Now we just we need more beds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And I think what’s notable about prop one is just the size of the coalition supporting it. So both these ideas, the bond measure and then these changes to mental health spending. They both passed with huge majorities in the legislature last year. Support from Democrats, support from Republicans. Now, you might say like, oh, when the governor comes out and says, this is my top priority, everyone’s going to get in line. But I also think it’s a fact that the broken status quo, we see people just visibly suffering on the street. That touches a lot of different parts of society. So you have, you know, leaders of California hospitals supporting this. They see many of these residents end up in their emergency rooms. You have groups representing firefighters, law enforcement behind this. They often get called to respond when someone is having a mental health episode. And then you have what might be the biggest group of backers, which are mayors. You know, they feel directly, you know, accountable to voters for what residents see on the street. And it’s why you have mayors like London Breed in San Francisco so vocally in support of prop one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>London Breed:\u003c/strong> I was just out in the Tenderloin and San Francisco, and it is clear that we need people to get the support that they need, especially those suffering from mental health and substance use disorder. Let’s get into campaign spending. What does it look like on this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Prop spending is very lopsided for this prop. You have supporters having raised more than $11 million to help push this measure through. Opponents, on the other hand, just about $1,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Wow. So really kind of David and Goliath on the on spending.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> On the spending front for sure. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> All right. Well, KQED political correspondent Guy Maserati, always a pleasure. Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Thanks, Olivia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> In a nutshell, a vote yes on proposition one means you’d like to see funds from an existing tax on millionaires used not just for mental health care, but also people facing drug or alcohol challenges. You’d also like those funds to be used for housing people needing mental health or substance abuse care. Finally, you’d like California to borrow $6.4 billion to pay for more mental health and substance abuse treatment facilities and housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A vote no on proposition one means you’d like to keep the Mental Health Services Act in its current form, and or you do not want California to issue that $6.4 billion bond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All right. We really hope that helped you make sense of what you’ll be voting on. Again, Election Day is March 5th, but ballots should be in your mailbox soon if they haven’t arrived yet. If you found this episode helpful, do us a favor and tell your friends all about it or share it out on your social media accounts. Thanks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We’re already gearing up for our full sized Prop Fest series during the upcoming general election. If you’ve got questions about a prop, another race, or any other voting issue in California, head over to Bay curious.org and use the form at the top of the page to send that question our way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bay curious is made in San Francisco at member supported KQED. Our show is produced by Katrina Schwartz, Christopher Bill and me Olivia Allen Price. Additional support from Jen Chen, Katie Springer, Cesar Saldana, Maha Sanford, Hollie Kernan and the whole KQED family. I’m Olivia Ellen Price. Best of luck in your decision.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-content post-body\">\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> California. Primary day is just around the corner on March 5th, and this year Californians have a lot to consider. We’ve got the presidential primary. Of course, there’s a contentious Senate race and lots happening on the local level. And then we’ve got proposition one all about funding for mental health care and housing for the state’s most vulnerable residents. Here’s how prop one will read on your ballot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Voice Over:\u003c/strong> Authorizes $6.38 billion in bonds to build mental health treatment facilities for those with mental health and substance use challenges. It provides housing for the homeless.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Now, there are two big questions being asked in this prop should mental health funding be used for housing? And should the state borrow money to build more housing and treatment facilities? There is lots of interesting stuff to discuss here. We’ll dig in just ahead on be curious. I’m Olivia Allen Price. It is always a pleasure when prop voting time rolls around, because it means I get to talk to KQED politics correspondent guy Maserati. Hey, Guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Hey, Olivia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> It’s been a minute, but here we are in a big election year. One of the first decisions that California voters are going to make is which way to go on prop one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> That’s right. Proposition one is actually two pretty big ideas that are rolled up into one proposition. So it’s a bond measure. It’s also a reallocation of existing funds. So this was placed on the ballot by the state legislature because they need to go to the voters to get approval if they want to issue a bond. They also need to go to the voters to make a change to a ballot measure that voters previously approved back in 2004. So here we are.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> We’ll go step by step through all the moving parts of this one. But first, guy, can you walk us through the problems that proposition one is aiming to solve?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah. The big idea behind the proposition is focusing state dollars on people who are experiencing homelessness and who have severe behavioral health issues. So we know Californians who are experiencing homelessness. It’s not a monolith. You have people who maybe, you know, fell behind on rent, maybe people who are just looking for an affordable place to live. Prop one is not focused on those folks. But, there are a lot of people who are experiencing homelessness in California who have added challenges on top of that. UCSF did their massive study of the state’s homeless population. They found 27% of people living without shelter have been hospitalized for a mental health issue. They also found 65% of those people who are living without shelter have reported heavy substance abuse. These are the kinds of people who are prop one is aimed at helping.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So the idea is that of all the people in the state who are facing mental health challenges, these Californians, the ones who are living on the streets or at risk of living on the streets, are the ones who need to be prioritized. And so that’s where you get to kind of the political piece of all of this, which is that homelessness is a top priority for voters, especially kind of the visible suffering of people that you see on the streets. That’s become such a huge political issue, and it’s become a big issue for the man who is backing prop one. Governor Gavin Newsom, this is part of his kind of big swing to try to fix this issue.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Okay. And broadly, what are we considering in proposition one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> So voters are being asked if the state should borrow money to build treatment facilities, build supportive housing, and if it should also change how existing mental health money gets spent, mainly by using more of that mental health money to build housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Let’s dig into the details a bit more now. Like we said a minute ago, this prop has sort of two arms. And I want to start with that first arm the bond. Now a quick bond refresher. A bond is essentially a loan the government takes out to fund certain projects. In this case, it’s a loan the state will pay back with interest over the next 30 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Right. So prop one would allow the state to borrow money by issuing $6.38 billion in bonds. Most of that money, about $4.4 billion, is going to go towards building treatment facilities. Now, this is for, like we mentioned, the thousands of Californians who have mental health needs, who have substance abuse issues, who are at risk or are actually living on the street. So that could be kind of a short term crisis care facility or longer term, you know, residential facilities, rehab communities and even, you know, some outpatient services. So that’s about 4.4 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then the rest of the measure, roughly 2 billion, that’s going to go towards building affordable apartments that come with kind of onsite behavioral health services. Of that 2 billion. Now we’re breaking this down further. Of that 2 billion. About 1 billion would be specifically for veterans who have behavioral health challenges. So again, we’re talking about helping people who are most visibly suffering, people who are having, you know, psychotic episodes on the street, people who are living in tents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> So what is all this investment actually going to do?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Supporters of prop one say by spending this bond money, they’re going to be able to create 4350 housing units, another 6800 treatment slots. Obviously, this is all a drop in the bucket for the overall homeless population in California, which is estimated to be more than 180,000 people. But again, the idea of prop one is a focus less focus on a subgroup of people who are experiencing homelessness. Newsom says prop one is the solution to the decades of unintended consequences that kicked off when California closed its state mental hospitals, but didn’t create alternative places for people to live and get care. Here’s Newsom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gavin Newsom:\u003c/strong> The reforms that took place in the late 50s, in the 60s and the 70s, that bipartisan endeavor around deinstitutionalization. We had a peak 37,000, beds in the state of California in the 60s, 37,000 beds. Today, it’s about 5500.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> We actually do have a \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11209729/did-the-emptying-of-mental-hospitals-contribute-to-homelessness-here\">Bay Curious episode about the closing of state mental hospitals and its impact on homelessness\u003c/a>. We’ll put a link in the show notes and transcript for this episode if you want to check that out. Guy, is there more detail on how this money will be allocated, like specific projects or even how much would go to, say, Alameda County versus Los Angeles County or anything like that? Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> That all hasn’t been laid out yet. I will say Newsom’s chief of staff, toxic KQED last summer about this prop. She said the administration, even though this had just started to move towards the ballot, they’re already looking at locations to build or refurbish, potential places with this bond money. I think really acknowledging that the process of building anything in California just takes a really long time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> [00:06:50] Another discussion for another time. I think it’s always worth remembering that bond money isn’t free if voters approve it. How will this bond impact Californians over time?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Right. So California would have to repay the bonds back over 30 years out of the state’s general fund. That’s where all our tax money ends up. And that works out to about $310 million a year, which because we’re talking about a really massive state budget, it’s actually only about one half of 1% of the general fund. Now, the state would have to pay interest on top of all of that. So over the course of three decades, we’d pay about $9 billion, not adjusted for inflation, to pay back what is a $6.38 billion bond on the ballot?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Okay, now on to the second arm of proposition one. So this measure would change how money collected for mental health services under Prop 63, which passed in 2004, is distributed. Okay. Start by taking us back 20 years to when voters approved the Mental Health Services Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah, this was really wild for me. Going back and looking at the coverage of that campaign back in 2004, because the issues that the supporters of Prop 63 were trying to address are so similar to what supporters of prop one are talking about right now. It’s basically a feeling that since those state hospitals closed, California really stopped providing the necessary care for people who have these severe mental health challenges. And the result has been those same people end up on the streets, in tents in our county jails. So what the Mental Health Services Act did back in 2004 was create this 1% tax on income over $1 million. It’s since been kind of colloquially known as the millionaires tax. And that created this new bucket of money that the state could use for mental health services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> So voters passed the Mental Health Services Act, which generates between two and a half and $3 billion per year. And that money now funds about a third of mental health services budgets for counties around the state. What counties especially like about this money is they have a lot of say in how it gets used. There aren’t a lot of strings attached.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Darrell Steinberg, who is currently the mayor of Sacramento back then in 2004, he was in the legislature and actually helped write the original Mental Health Services Act. He says the measure has been successful. It’s paid for a lot of services all across the state, from counseling to drop in centers to early intervention, having people come in to schools and classrooms and help teachers identify kids who might have mental health challenges. But he says the reason that all these years later, he’s now one of the leading supporters of changing it is because there hasn’t been enough focus on housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Darrell Steinberg:\u003c/strong> I think the counties have actually spent the money well, but what they haven’t done is spent it in a way that was focused on the most critical issues affecting our state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> So the trade off that supporters of prop one are pitching to voters is basically, let’s give up the flexibility in how this money is spent in exchange for adding greater focus, specifically focus on housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Tell me more about how they would limit flexibility that the counties have.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> So under prop one, if it passes, counties would be required to spend 30% of that millionaire tax money they get from the state, specifically on housing. So that could mean providing rental subsidies, building new housing, converting things like motels into housing with supportive services. So this would leave counties then with less money to spend on some of the other programs and services they’ve been providing in the mental health space. So they need to find the money elsewhere. Or in the case a lot of opponents are concerned about, they would need to scale back or cut some of these programs. Paul Simmons is one of the leaders of the No on prop one campaign. He recently led Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance California, which provides peer support for people with depression bipolar disorder. He says service providers in similar positions are really worried.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Paul Simmons:\u003c/strong> Adult respite centers and wellness centers are very, very much at risk. All peer support programs are just scared to death right now that they’re going to lose any funding they got from from the MSA funding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And you also have county governments who are really concerned about prop one, because right now they’re the ones that are getting this millionaires tax money. They are concerned that more of this money would go to the state. The state wants more say on how the millionaires tax money is spent. So you have many county supervisors who have come out against prop one. They’re concerned that if it passes, they’re going to have to cancel contracts with community based organizations or even perhaps reduce county staff.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Right now, 95% of that million in our tax money goes to counties. What would that look like under prop one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Under prop one, it would be more like 90% with the state using its cut for things like increasing just the number of mental health care workers. And one other change I should note here is that counties under prop one would be able to spend some of this money on housing for folks who just have drug and alcohol addiction challenges, you know, substance abuse issues. They may not have a dual diagnosis, mental health issue. And right now, all the Mental Health Services Act funding under Prop 63, the millionaires tax, all of that has to be used for people with mental health conditions. This would actually change the name of the entire thing to the Behavioral Health Services Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> I see, so by calling it the behavioral rather than the Mental Health Services Act, it really broadens out the group of people who could be served by the money guy. Would this increase taxes for anybody?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> No. And this is actually what makes this kind of controversial. It doesn’t increase the millionaires tax that funds the current Mental Health Services Act. So opponents of prop one say you have the same pot of money. You’re just stretching it in all these new directions by trying to focus on housing. Now, supporters like Newsom will say, that’s not the whole picture. There are all these other initiatives happening, you know, like Cal Aim, which try to get, for example, health plans to pay for some of these mental health services that prop 63, the Mental Health Services Act, has been doing for the last two. Years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> What else do opponents have to say about this one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> So I think just like we broke down the measure into a couple parts, it might be helpful to break down where opponents are coming from on this pretty, pretty complex measure. So let’s start with the bonds. You have the state borrowing a lot of money to build these treatment facilities, supportive apartments. So you have conservatives, anti-tax groups like the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association. They oppose taking on that debt. And then there’s other conservatives who kind of jump on and say, we also don’t agree with the Housing First policy here, which is when someone with, say, a substance abuse problem is given housing before going through treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then there’s another piece of this, which is about what kind of housing can be built with this bond money, because prop one actually allows the money to be spent on locked facilities. These are, you know, places where people might get placed as a result of a conservatorship, where treatment is not voluntary. And this is pretty controversial. You get opposition not from conservatives on this, but you get opposition from groups like Disability Rights California, for example, who say these kind of lock facilities violate civil liberties and don’t have proven outcomes. Now, supporters of prop one say this is not going to be a huge piece of all the new facilities that get built, but that’s really an open question going forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> And what about the changes to how the existing prop 63 millionaires tax money is spent? Who is opposed to that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that piece of prop one is opposed by some service providers, folks like Paul Simmons, who say if you’re focusing on helping people who are the most visible have the most acute needs, that’s a poor investment. If you’re taking that money from programs that try to provide help with mental health, substance abuse, when people are in school or when they’re in counseling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Paul Simmons:\u003c/strong> But really, what they’re doing, from my perspective, is to take the money from the early intervention, take it from the upstream part and throw it all into downstream. You know, where people are having more trouble and in fact, forcing more people downstream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And so folks like Simmons are worried that if California puts less funding toward preventative upstream programs that support people you know, before their problems are most severe, we’re actually going to worsen some of the state’s problems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> And who is in support of proposition one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Yeah, the biggest name in support is Governor Gavin Newsom. You know, for all the attention he’s gotten on political stunts, campaigning across the country, debating Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, the biggest policy focus he’s had in Sacramento has been at this intersection of behavioral health and homelessness. So just in the last few years, the governor signed bills to create care courts. So this kind of compels treatment, housing for people with severe mental illness. He also signed bills making it easier to place people in a conservative ship. Prop one is the latest step in that direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gavin Newsom:\u003c/strong> This is, I think, the last big piece. We’ve got we’ve just we’ve radically changed the way we’re doing business. We created more flexibility, more tools, more accountability, more resources. Now we just we need more beds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> And I think what’s notable about prop one is just the size of the coalition supporting it. So both these ideas, the bond measure and then these changes to mental health spending. They both passed with huge majorities in the legislature last year. Support from Democrats, support from Republicans. Now, you might say like, oh, when the governor comes out and says, this is my top priority, everyone’s going to get in line. But I also think it’s a fact that the broken status quo, we see people just visibly suffering on the street. That touches a lot of different parts of society. So you have, you know, leaders of California hospitals supporting this. They see many of these residents end up in their emergency rooms. You have groups representing firefighters, law enforcement behind this. They often get called to respond when someone is having a mental health episode. And then you have what might be the biggest group of backers, which are mayors. You know, they feel directly, you know, accountable to voters for what residents see on the street. And it’s why you have mayors like London Breed in San Francisco so vocally in support of prop one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>London Breed:\u003c/strong> I was just out in the Tenderloin and San Francisco, and it is clear that we need people to get the support that they need, especially those suffering from mental health and substance use disorder. Let’s get into campaign spending. What does it look like on this?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Prop spending is very lopsided for this prop. You have supporters having raised more than $11 million to help push this measure through. Opponents, on the other hand, just about $1,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Wow. So really kind of David and Goliath on the on spending.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> On the spending front for sure. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> All right. Well, KQED political correspondent Guy Maserati, always a pleasure. Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati:\u003c/strong> Thanks, Olivia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> In a nutshell, a vote yes on proposition one means you’d like to see funds from an existing tax on millionaires used not just for mental health care, but also people facing drug or alcohol challenges. You’d also like those funds to be used for housing people needing mental health or substance abuse care. Finally, you’d like California to borrow $6.4 billion to pay for more mental health and substance abuse treatment facilities and housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A vote no on proposition one means you’d like to keep the Mental Health Services Act in its current form, and or you do not want California to issue that $6.4 billion bond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All right. We really hope that helped you make sense of what you’ll be voting on. Again, Election Day is March 5th, but ballots should be in your mailbox soon if they haven’t arrived yet. 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This really is the first time since 92 that there’s been a truly open seat without sort of one candidate who is just, like, overwhelmingly favored to win.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:: \u003c/strong>The Senate seat, Marisam is currently occupied by Laphonza Butler who was appointed by Governor Gavin Newsom. But she’s not running right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>That’s right. You know, she was a little bit of a surprise appointment. And I think a lot of us, myself included, I will admit, I really expected her to run. Why that is, is not a question that we all sort of fully understand the answer to. I know she talked about the fact that after her appointment, it was really tough on her family. She’s a black woman, she’s openly gay. She has a daughter. I think that this is a very difficult time to serve, and she apparently just did not feel that she wanted to turn around right after being appointed and run a very tough campaign. 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She’s a single mom of three kids, former UC Irvine professor. And she really, I think, has relied heavily on that personal narrative, as well as her sense that the whole system is rigged and that a lot of what she wants to do is kind of push back against the power of corporations and also members of Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:: \u003c/strong>And before we kind of talk about the differences between some of these candidates, there is one Republican, Steve Garvey. Can you tell me a little bit about him and what he’s known for?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Yeah, I mean, he is definitely in the mix. The last poll actually had him a few points behind Porter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Garvey: \u003c/strong>I think many of you know me. Over 50 years ago, I came to California. 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But, you know, this is a very deep blue state. Republicans have virtually the same number of registered voters as independents. And so I think there’s a chance that he could get through this primary in the top two, but it would be a very steep climb for him to win the actual seat. That would be pretty extraordinary, just given the numbers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What is then the biggest difference between these candidates, especially the three Democrats?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Isn’t that the million dollar question? I mean, if you look at their voting records in Congress, there’s been a number of analyzes. They voted similarly, like 90% at the time. I do think that that belies some of their differences. But in general, when it works, when it comes to a policy that’s actually going to make it to the floor of the Senate. I think they would be in lockstep on most issues. But one area we’ve really seen a lot of daylight between them is on what’s happening between Israel and Hamas and the Gaza Strip. And, you know, we saw some of the differences between these candidates at the debate last Monday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Barbara Lee: \u003c/strong>Yes. I called for a cease fire, a permanent cease fire. Israel deserves to live in peace with security free from Hamas and all terrorist attacks. And I’m going to continue to condemn the horrific attacks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Barbara Lee has always been really sort of anti-war. She talks a lot about the fact that what happened after nine over 11 didn’t necessarily make the US safer in a lot of ways, that there is this tendency to get dragged into these conflicts. And she’s really framed this as a question of security, not just, you know, for the Palestinians, but the Israelis and the U.S..\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Barbara Lee: \u003c/strong>Killing 25,000 civilians. It’s catastrophic, and it will never lead to peace for the Israelis nor the Palestinians. It will spiral out of control, like I said it did. And what, after 2001 and it did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>That she feels like what’s happening is not doing a service to anybody’s sort of safety.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adam Schiff: \u003c/strong>No country, after having been attacked by terrorists like Israel was on October 7th. No country could refuse to defend itself. It has a duty to defend itself. And I think the United States should support Israel in defending itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>More on on the side of what Israel has been doing. Would be Adam Schiff, very staunch Israel supporter. It says that we would never, you know, ask ourselves to not respond if we were attacked as Americans and that he really doesn’t see a path to a cease fire right now with Hamas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker: \u003c/strong>Congressmember Porter, some critics have said you’ve tried to have it both ways on this. You just heard two different worldviews laid out on this. Where are you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Katie Porter ‘s had a little bit of challenge on this issue. You know, foreign policy is not her strong suit. As I said, she came out more as a consumer advocate, and I think she’s struggled to find a lane on this. She had resisted calls for a cease fire. And then a few weeks ago, kind of put out a pretty extensive statement saying that she would like to see a cease fire, however she wants all these conditions met, which includes some very sort of high bars that feel very unlikely politically.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie Porter: \u003c/strong>So I’ve called for a release for all the hostages resources to rebuild Gaza, making sure Israel is secure and a free state for Palestinians where they can thrive. So just to be clear, she’s calling for a cease fire right now. You’re saying we need to do all this other stuff first, right? The parties to this conflict are Israel and Hamas. Cease fire is not a magic word. You can’t say it and make it so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>I mean, recent polling has shown a lot of divisions within the Democratic Party on this question. Younger voters, voters of color, really tend to sympathize more of the Palestinians and oppose the way Israel has responded. Older voters, whiter voters in the Democratic Party tend to side more with Israel. And so I do think that that’s there’s an opportunity there for both Porter and Lee. But one of them is going to have to make it into the top two, I think, to really drill down on that issue heading into November.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up. What else differentiates the three Democrats and what role Republican Steve Garvey might play in the race? Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Another issue where some of these divisions also showed were with this issue of earmarks. Can you explain that?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Yeah. This is like I think super fascinating, but maybe I’m just a dork. Katie Porter, whose, you know, kind of message is that the economy is rigged. Government is rigged. You know, it’s not working for for regular people has taken a very hard line against what are colloquially known as earmarks. Or maybe in the past, pork spending.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>You might remember it called. You know, this is the process by which elected officials kind of go to the administration in charge, you know, within Congress, and make the case for individual projects or other sort of spending within their district. So, you know, this is honestly what a lot of politicians run on. I will bring money back home. Your taxpayer dollars will work for you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie Porter: \u003c/strong>The earmarks process actually short changes. California, diverse districts and diverse states actually get half as much money. We only get two senators, which means will we get every state gets two sets of earmarks. So the process actually prevents us from getting the share of funding that we need based on our population and based on our problems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Katie Porter thinks that it essentially favors special interest, that it’s not a good way to do business, that policymakers with expertise in those policy areas should be the ones, you know, making these calls. And so she has not only said she will not, as a congresswoman, ask for earmarks for her district, that she would not, as one of two U.S. senators, do the same, and that she wants to see the entire system abolished.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What do Schiff and Lee have to say about earmarks?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>They’re unapologetically supportive of them. Both of them point to money they’ve brought home to their congressional districts. Shift talks about homelessness in LA. And Barbara Lee actually frames that as a question of equity. She says that this is one of the only ways that you see communities of color, low income communities and neighborhoods have a say at the table because they can elect people. And that she feels that it’s a really important tool to continue to get those dollars.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Marissa, we just talked a little bit about where some of these candidates stand on the issues. Do we know anything about who is supporting these Democrats? We know anything about the endorsements they’ve gotten so far.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Yeah. So Schiff has really cleaned up when it comes to his colleagues in Congress. He has the support of Nancy Pelosi, former speaker, and sort of de facto leader, even though, you know, she’s an emeritus now. He has a lot of his fellow members of Congress from California are supporting him. Barbara Lee, she’s getting support from folks like reproductive freedom for all that was formerly narrow pro-choice. The Congressional Black Caucus is backing her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Katie Porter has a handful, you know, of of local labor unions and others, including statewide, the California School Employees Association. Senator Elizabeth Warren, I think very telling. All three of them have the support of the California Labor Federation. That is one of the biggest labor groups in the state. That tells me that they think any one of these three would be just fine. One interesting thing Garvey has no endorsements, and his campaign says he hasn’t asked for them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Yeah, well, let’s talk just a little bit more about Steve Garvey. How should we be thinking about his role in this race?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Democrats should be taking him seriously. While it is. As I said, it would be very extraordinary for somebody with an R next to their name to win statewide. There has not been a statewide Republican elected since 2006. But politics is crazy and the world is crazy. So you can never say never, right? You can never say that he has no shot. Who knows? Who knows what he how he pivots, what the landscape looks like. It was interesting. On Monday night, I think we saw all three Democrats really go after Garvey.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Speaker: \u003c/strong>There are a lot of people in this country that love Donald Trump and think he was a great president. What’s your what’s your view?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Garvey: \u003c/strong>It’s all a personal choice. As my personal choice, I will make it in the sovereignty of wherever that is. And that’s my personal choice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>One after another. All three Democrats really piled on and tried to push him on. Things like whether he would support Trump, like where he stands on things like abortion, health care, you know, how to deal with things like homelessness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What does Steve Garvey say about Donald Trump? Anything to kind of help us place him in terms of. Republican candidates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>His answer to Did Biden win was yes, unequivocally. So. He’s not an election denier. But if you listen here, he really is struggling to figure out how to talk about this when he is asked point blank, will he support Trump? And I think he tries, you know, to throw some meat to the base in terms of how he frames Biden as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Garvey: \u003c/strong>When the time comes, I’ll do exactly what I said to you. I will look at the two opponents. I will determine what they did. And at that time, I will make my choice. I don’t believe Joe Biden has been for good for this country. I heard has said that, that Trump was terrible for the world, right? Yeah. He was. We were less safe. We were safer, more under him than we are under Biden.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I mean, all that said, Marisa, there is still a chance that Garvey advances to the November election, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Sure. And you have to think about it as a sort of a math problem. So let’s assume that a little under half of registered voters are Democrats, and about a quarter are Republicans, and a quarter are independents right now. And, you know, these three Democrats will split a lot of that Democratic vote. So there is an opening for him to be in the top two. Of course, we have a you know, we don’t have a closed primary system here. It’s not by party. It’s the top two vote getters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Marisa, what are the stakes of this race?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>This is a six year term in a seat with no term limits. This is potentially, you know, a lifetime election, a once in a generation election, for sure. I think the stakes are who California wants to see representing them in Congress, not just tomorrow or next year, but in the coming years. And what is it that they value in terms of that voice, one of 100, only 100 senators and who they think is going to be able to, you know, whether it’s a Trump presidency or a Biden presidency, advocate for the state and the policies and positions that are important to people here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Marisa, thank you so much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>My pleasure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Marisa Lagos, a politics and government correspondent for KQED. This 35 minute conversation with Marisa was cut down and edited by senior editor Alan Montecillo. Maria Esquinca is our producer. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-content post-body\">\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp class=\"p1\">\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra, and welcome to the Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Okay, crazy, but it’s almost February, which means it’s almost March, which means it’s election time. The primary election is scheduled for March 5th, and ballots are going to be going out soon. And we’re going to be making some big decisions, including which top two candidates should advance in the race for U.S. Senator come November. The last person who held the seat, Dianne Feinstein, held it for more than three decades befo re her passing last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Yeah, this is unusual, and these are not term limited, so whoever wins could be there for most of your adult life, Ericka.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:: \u003c/strong>Today I sit down with KQED politics and government correspondent Marisa Lagos to talk about who’s running for California’s open Senate seat and what it means for us. How rare is an open Senate seat in California?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>This is not technically true, but my feeling is that there has not been one in my lifetime as a voter. This really is the first time since 92 that there’s been a truly open seat without sort of one candidate who is just, like, overwhelmingly favored to win.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:: \u003c/strong>The Senate seat, Marisam is currently occupied by Laphonza Butler who was appointed by Governor Gavin Newsom. But she’s not running right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>That’s right. You know, she was a little bit of a surprise appointment. And I think a lot of us, myself included, I will admit, I really expected her to run. Why that is, is not a question that we all sort of fully understand the answer to. I know she talked about the fact that after her appointment, it was really tough on her family. She’s a black woman, she’s openly gay. She has a daughter. I think that this is a very difficult time to serve, and she apparently just did not feel that she wanted to turn around right after being appointed and run a very tough campaign. So she will only hold this seat for about a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:: \u003c/strong>Let’s walk through the four major candidates then. Who is running and what are each of them known for, starting with the Democrats?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Yeah, well, let’s start close to home here in the Bay. Oakland Congresswoman Barbara Lee is running. She came up in Oakland politics, organized with the Black Panthers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Barbara Lee: \u003c/strong>I have been a consistent progressive who gets the job done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>I think she’s best known for her vote against authorizing force after nine over 11.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Barbara Lee: \u003c/strong>I voted against the authorization to use military force right after the horrific attacks of 9/11. I voted against the Iraq authorization. I said then.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>And I would frame her as really running, you know, as as a Bernie Sanders type candidate. Medicare for all. Very anti-war. Came out early for a cease fire. The only black woman in the race and also the oldest candidate in the race.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adam Schiff: \u003c/strong>I took on the president, I investigated him, I led his impeachment when he.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Adam Schiff , Los Angeles Democratic congressman, probably best known for his role in, running the first impeachment inquiry of former President Trump.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adam Schiff: \u003c/strong>When he inciting an insurrection against our country. I served on the January 6th the committee to hold him accountable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Former federal prosecutor. He’s really running on this kind of defend democracy argument.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Adam Schiff: \u003c/strong>I if Donald Trump is elected president than we are. And it rhymes with crude. He is crude. He is the greatest threat to our democracy in our history. The best thing that we can do. And I’ve gone toe to toe with him, and if need be, I will go to toe to toe with him again to defend our democracy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>You know, a lot of his policy positions really center around things like strengthening institutions like the Supreme Court and the voting system in order to protect against somebody like Trump.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie Porter: \u003c/strong>Before I was elected to Congress five years ago, I was a consumer protection advocate. I took on greedy corporations and Washington officials asleep at the wheel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Riding on the kind of more populist angle is Katie Porter, Orange County congresswoman. She’s a protege of Senator Elizabeth Warren. She’s best known in Congress for coming in to committee meetings and, holding folks like Chase CEO Jamie Diamond to account with her handy dandy white board.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Katie Porter: \u003c/strong>I’m willing to hold Wall Street to account for its failure to build the housing that we need. And we can afford to hold Big Pharma to account for overcharging us, for prescription medicines, to hold big insurance, to account for denying our claims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>You know, she’s really trying to frame herself as an outsider, even though she’s been in Congress. As I said, she really sort of relies on a much more populist message. She’s a single mom of three kids, former UC Irvine professor. And she really, I think, has relied heavily on that personal narrative, as well as her sense that the whole system is rigged and that a lot of what she wants to do is kind of push back against the power of corporations and also members of Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra:: \u003c/strong>And before we kind of talk about the differences between some of these candidates, there is one Republican, Steve Garvey. Can you tell me a little bit about him and what he’s known for?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Yeah, I mean, he is definitely in the mix. The last poll actually had him a few points behind Porter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Steve Garvey: \u003c/strong>I think many of you know me. Over 50 years ago, I came to California. 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But, you know, this is a very deep blue state. Republicans have virtually the same number of registered voters as independents. And so I think there’s a chance that he could get through this primary in the top two, but it would be a very steep climb for him to win the actual seat. That would be pretty extraordinary, just given the numbers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What is then the biggest difference between these candidates, especially the three Democrats?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>Isn’t that the million dollar question? I mean, if you look at their voting records in Congress, there’s been a number of analyzes. They voted similarly, like 90% at the time. I do think that that belies some of their differences. But in general, when it works, when it comes to a policy that’s actually going to make it to the floor of the Senate. I think they would be in lockstep on most issues. 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And what is it that they value in terms of that voice, one of 100, only 100 senators and who they think is going to be able to, you know, whether it’s a Trump presidency or a Biden presidency, advocate for the state and the policies and positions that are important to people here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Marisa, thank you so much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Lagos: \u003c/strong>My pleasure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Marisa Lagos, a politics and government correspondent for KQED. This 35 minute conversation with Marisa was cut down and edited by senior editor Alan Montecillo. Maria Esquinca is our producer. 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