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These forms were built with driftwood, foam, hubcaps, brooms, plastic jugs and buckets — basically, it was a lot of junk, nailed together to create something beautiful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lawless space for free expression lasted for about 30 years. Enos’ mother actually announced her pregnancy to his father by building a baby buggy sculpture at the Mudflats.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was really kicking in the ’70s,” Enos says of the Mudflats’ visiting sculptors. “Technically, they were trespassing, but no one bothered them. Emeryville loved it, because it made them look classy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was not a static space. People would borrow pieces from one sculpture to build a new one. 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Even if academically trained artists got things started, ordinary people and folk artists were the ones who kept the space alive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m really into this idea that people showed up in California, and they had this beautiful Italianesque landscape around them and they were like, ‘You know what this needs? A giant artichoke! You know what this needs? A giant igloo in the desert!’ ” Enos says. “Making your own world, by any means necessary, is really interesting to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a recent visit, the only sculptures one could see were two horses made of buckets. That’s a far cry from the dozens and dozens of sculptures that once filled the area. So what happened?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousbug]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Land along the waterfront in Emeryville was sold, and new Miami-style condos with floor-to-ceiling windows were built next to the mudflats. 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San Francisco saw \u003ca href=\"https://data.sfgov.org/Public-Safety/Police-Department-Incidents/tmnf-yvry/data\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more than 30,000 last year — nearly triple the number reported in 2010.\u003c/a> (San Jose had about 5,000, which is in line with the annual number reported over the past decade.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It seems everyone has a story to tell. Just do a quick search on the internet and you’ll find stories about \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuxtLKsVpUM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a tourist chasing after their stolen car on foot\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-wedding-photos-stolen-break-in-11301164.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a photographer who lost a couple’s wedding photos\u003c/a> or an \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/olympic-skater-marisa-castelli-stolen-gear-found-12506170.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Olympic skater who had her skates and costumes\u003c/a> stolen from her rental car.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/MarissaCastelli/status/950612460452511744\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With so many reports of break-ins, our question asker Elizabeth Heller wants to know:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>“What is being done? What steps is the city taking to combat this problem? Or is this just a reality that happens every day?”\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The Inside Scoop\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Most of the burglars breaking into cars are career criminals and work in organized groups the police call “crews.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to a \u003ca href=\"http://civilgrandjury.sfgov.org/2015_2016/2015-16_CGJ_Final_Report_Auto_Burglary_in_SF_6_20_16.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2016 civil grand jury report\u003c/a>, these crews are made up of two to five people. They operate in their cars, and usually have paper license plates so they can’t be tracked down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The report estimates that 70 to 80 percent of all car break-ins in San Francisco are done by these crews.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/Willowese/status/912396177873690624\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sgt. Steven Spagnuolo works at Central Station in North Beach and spends a lot of his time chasing down car burglars. He has gotten to know how they operate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m looking for cars that we know have committed burglaries in the last couple weeks,” he says. “If we see one, we know they might not be up to no good.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When he goes on patrol, he’s watching for people driving slowly, looking into cars with flashlights, or cars backed into spots so they can pull out faster.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says the thieves usually take their loot to two big open-air markets where illegal deals are made. One is in the Mid-Market neighborhood at Seventh and Market streets. The other is in the Tenderloin, at Golden Gate Avenue and Leavenworth Street.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If someone is caught breaking into a car, it’s a felony. If they steal something worth more than $950, that’s a second felony. Each felony carries a maximum of three years in jail, but unless someone has been caught multiple times, chances are pretty low they’ll get that sentence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the burglars are caught, Spagnuolo says it’s not uncommon to see them right back on the street a short time later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To crack down on these repeat offenders, the police use a strategy called “bundling,” where they track crimes someone commits over time. A case based on multiple incidents is more likely to result in a conviction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite Spagnuolo’s efforts, the police barely make a dent in the numbers. An arrest is made in only 2 percent of the total break-ins reported.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11649741\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1219px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11649741\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651.jpg\" alt=\"A car parked in the Temescal Neighborhood of Oakland, Calif. with a sign asking for a car thief to return a sweater.\" width=\"1219\" height=\"997\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651.jpg 1219w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-160x131.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-800x654.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-1020x834.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-1180x965.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-960x785.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-240x196.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-375x307.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-520x425.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1219px) 100vw, 1219px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A car parked in the Temescal neighborhood of Oakland, with a sign asking for a car thief to return a sweater. \u003ccite>(Sarah Craig/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Why The Rise?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>There are a few theories about why this is such a problem in San Francisco right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>1) Cars are packed close together, and it’s easy to break into one car after another.\u003cbr>\n2) We have a lot of tourists who leave stuff in their cars out of necessity, or because they aren’t aware of the break-in threat.\u003cbr>\n3) The things we leave in our cars have gotten more expensive over the years. Burglars once stole CD players — now they steal laptops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11650231\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11650231\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-800x603.jpg\" alt=\"The crooked part of Lombard Street is a hotspot for car break ins. \" width=\"800\" height=\"603\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-800x603.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-160x121.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-1020x768.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-1180x889.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-960x723.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-240x181.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-375x283.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-520x392.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The crooked part of Lombard Street is a hotspot for car break ins. \u003ccite>(\u003ca href=\"http://laughingsquid.com\" target=\"_blank\">Scott Beale / Laughing Squid\u003c/a>)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2 id=\"action\">Taking Action\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>On Feb. 21, District Attorney George Gascon announced he’s asking the San Francisco Board of Supervisors for $1 million to help curtail car break-ins. He also announced a website and telephone tip line to report car break-ins.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gascon says he wants to re-start a program that would register private surveillance cameras that could then provide evidence to police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last summer, San Francisco Police Chief William Scott disbanded a citywide serial crimes unit dedicated to car break-ins. In its place, he unveiled a new plan to designate at least one officer focused on on break-ins at each of the 12 police stations in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was happy because [serial crimes unit] wasn’t helping my neighborhoods that I serve,” says San Francisco Supervisor Hillary Ronen. She argues the old unit focused on touristy areas around town, and wasn’t helping residential neighborhoods. “We need that focused attention at every district station.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ronen represents the Mission district, which saw a\u003ca href=\"https://data.sfgov.org/Public-Safety/Police-Department-Incidents/tmnf-yvry/data\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> 47 percent increase in car break-ins from 2016 to 2017\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/brendanstarr/status/910327515796840448\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Right now, the police are rolling out the plan at Taraval Station in the Sunset District. In six months, the city will hold a hearing to evaluate if it’s working.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Fending for Yourself\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you really want to stop your car being broken into, maybe you should take a tip from a car burglar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cornelius, who asked that we not use his last name, broke into cars for more than 30 years. He started when he was 19 years old, and got hooked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I liked it. It was easy. I always had money in my pocket. And I didn’t have to work. It would take 15 minutes for the whole day,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cornelius would throw the ceramic end of a spark plug at the middle of the car window to break it. Ceramic is denser than glass, so that’s why it breaks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11649781\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11649781\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/20180207_160231-e1518545216548.jpg\" alt=\"A rescue safety tool designed to break your window if you are trapped inside. Sergeant Spagnuolo says the tool is commonly used by car burglars to break car windows.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A rescue safety tool designed to break your window if you are trapped inside. Sgt. Spagnuolo says the tool is commonly used by car burglars to break car windows. \u003ccite>(Sergeant Steven Spagnuolo)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A lot of burglars nowadays use a rescue safety tool designed to break your window if you are trapped inside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in the ’80s, Cornelius was making about $100 to $200 a night. Then, when he turned 27, he started stealing the whole car. He would make upward of $2,500 a night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He was stealing cars to support his drug habit. He did it so often, and for so long, that he would get orders from the chop shops to steal \u003cem>certain\u003c/em> cars. And he wasn’t operating just in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It can be from L.A. to Baja all the way up to Mount Lassen. Never, never out of the state,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cornelius stopped stealing cars about four years ago. He says he “retired” from the business when he was caught selling drugs — twice in two days — and decided he was done being a criminal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11649804\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11649804\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/cornelius-copy-e1518551518145.jpg\" alt=\"Cornelius broke into cars in San Francisco for more than 30 years.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cornelius broke into cars in San Francisco for more than 30 years. \u003ccite>(Sarah Craig/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Now, he drives a car retrofitted to protect against other car thieves, and he has a few recommendations to share.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You shouldn’t be leaving nothing inside of your car in the first place, especially if you care for it,” he says. “And if you protect your windows, your car is guaranteed not to get broken into.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cornelius listed three car alarm systems: the \u003ca href=\"http://www.avital.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Avital,\u003c/a> the \u003ca href=\"http://www.pythoncarsecurity.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Python\u003c/a> and the\u003ca href=\"https://www.viper.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> Viper\u003c/a>. He says they can alert your phone — so you’ll know immediately if someone has broken your window.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Also, never put anything in your trunk if you’re going to walk away from it because somebody is watching you,” he says. “Just like you’re looking around, somebody is also looking around … and it might be me. And that’s a bad situation altogether.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Sgt. Steven Spagnuolo works at Central Station in North Beach and spends a lot of his time chasing down car burglars. He has gotten to know how they operate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m looking for cars that we know have committed burglaries in the last couple weeks,” he says. “If we see one, we know they might not be up to no good.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When he goes on patrol, he’s watching for people driving slowly, looking into cars with flashlights, or cars backed into spots so they can pull out faster.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says the thieves usually take their loot to two big open-air markets where illegal deals are made. One is in the Mid-Market neighborhood at Seventh and Market streets. The other is in the Tenderloin, at Golden Gate Avenue and Leavenworth Street.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If someone is caught breaking into a car, it’s a felony. If they steal something worth more than $950, that’s a second felony. Each felony carries a maximum of three years in jail, but unless someone has been caught multiple times, chances are pretty low they’ll get that sentence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the burglars are caught, Spagnuolo says it’s not uncommon to see them right back on the street a short time later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To crack down on these repeat offenders, the police use a strategy called “bundling,” where they track crimes someone commits over time. A case based on multiple incidents is more likely to result in a conviction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite Spagnuolo’s efforts, the police barely make a dent in the numbers. An arrest is made in only 2 percent of the total break-ins reported.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11649741\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1219px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11649741\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651.jpg\" alt=\"A car parked in the Temescal Neighborhood of Oakland, Calif. with a sign asking for a car thief to return a sweater.\" width=\"1219\" height=\"997\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651.jpg 1219w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-160x131.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-800x654.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-1020x834.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-1180x965.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-960x785.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-240x196.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-375x307.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/IMG_0789-e1518543410651-520x425.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1219px) 100vw, 1219px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A car parked in the Temescal neighborhood of Oakland, with a sign asking for a car thief to return a sweater. \u003ccite>(Sarah Craig/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>Why The Rise?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>There are a few theories about why this is such a problem in San Francisco right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>1) Cars are packed close together, and it’s easy to break into one car after another.\u003cbr>\n2) We have a lot of tourists who leave stuff in their cars out of necessity, or because they aren’t aware of the break-in threat.\u003cbr>\n3) The things we leave in our cars have gotten more expensive over the years. Burglars once stole CD players — now they steal laptops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11650231\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11650231\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-800x603.jpg\" alt=\"The crooked part of Lombard Street is a hotspot for car break ins. \" width=\"800\" height=\"603\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-800x603.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-160x121.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-1020x768.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-1180x889.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-960x723.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-240x181.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-375x283.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o-520x392.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/3666838524_e8a348d0b3_o.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The crooked part of Lombard Street is a hotspot for car break ins. \u003ccite>(\u003ca href=\"http://laughingsquid.com\" target=\"_blank\">Scott Beale / Laughing Squid\u003c/a>)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2 id=\"action\">Taking Action\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>On Feb. 21, District Attorney George Gascon announced he’s asking the San Francisco Board of Supervisors for $1 million to help curtail car break-ins. He also announced a website and telephone tip line to report car break-ins.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gascon says he wants to re-start a program that would register private surveillance cameras that could then provide evidence to police.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last summer, San Francisco Police Chief William Scott disbanded a citywide serial crimes unit dedicated to car break-ins. In its place, he unveiled a new plan to designate at least one officer focused on on break-ins at each of the 12 police stations in the city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was happy because [serial crimes unit] wasn’t helping my neighborhoods that I serve,” says San Francisco Supervisor Hillary Ronen. She argues the old unit focused on touristy areas around town, and wasn’t helping residential neighborhoods. “We need that focused attention at every district station.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ronen represents the Mission district, which saw a\u003ca href=\"https://data.sfgov.org/Public-Safety/Police-Department-Incidents/tmnf-yvry/data\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> 47 percent increase in car break-ins from 2016 to 2017\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Right now, the police are rolling out the plan at Taraval Station in the Sunset District. In six months, the city will hold a hearing to evaluate if it’s working.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Fending for Yourself\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>If you really want to stop your car being broken into, maybe you should take a tip from a car burglar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cornelius, who asked that we not use his last name, broke into cars for more than 30 years. He started when he was 19 years old, and got hooked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I liked it. It was easy. I always had money in my pocket. And I didn’t have to work. It would take 15 minutes for the whole day,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cornelius would throw the ceramic end of a spark plug at the middle of the car window to break it. Ceramic is denser than glass, so that’s why it breaks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11649781\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11649781\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/20180207_160231-e1518545216548.jpg\" alt=\"A rescue safety tool designed to break your window if you are trapped inside. Sergeant Spagnuolo says the tool is commonly used by car burglars to break car windows.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A rescue safety tool designed to break your window if you are trapped inside. Sgt. Spagnuolo says the tool is commonly used by car burglars to break car windows. \u003ccite>(Sergeant Steven Spagnuolo)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A lot of burglars nowadays use a rescue safety tool designed to break your window if you are trapped inside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back in the ’80s, Cornelius was making about $100 to $200 a night. Then, when he turned 27, he started stealing the whole car. He would make upward of $2,500 a night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He was stealing cars to support his drug habit. He did it so often, and for so long, that he would get orders from the chop shops to steal \u003cem>certain\u003c/em> cars. And he wasn’t operating just in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It can be from L.A. to Baja all the way up to Mount Lassen. Never, never out of the state,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cornelius stopped stealing cars about four years ago. He says he “retired” from the business when he was caught selling drugs — twice in two days — and decided he was done being a criminal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11649804\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11649804\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/cornelius-copy-e1518551518145.jpg\" alt=\"Cornelius broke into cars in San Francisco for more than 30 years.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cornelius broke into cars in San Francisco for more than 30 years. \u003ccite>(Sarah Craig/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Now, he drives a car retrofitted to protect against other car thieves, and he has a few recommendations to share.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You shouldn’t be leaving nothing inside of your car in the first place, especially if you care for it,” he says. “And if you protect your windows, your car is guaranteed not to get broken into.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cornelius listed three car alarm systems: the \u003ca href=\"http://www.avital.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Avital,\u003c/a> the \u003ca href=\"http://www.pythoncarsecurity.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Python\u003c/a> and the\u003ca href=\"https://www.viper.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> Viper\u003c/a>. He says they can alert your phone — so you’ll know immediately if someone has broken your window.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Also, never put anything in your trunk if you’re going to walk away from it because somebody is watching you,” he says. “Just like you’re looking around, somebody is also looking around … and it might be me. And that’s a bad situation altogether.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>San Francisco has some seriously iconic signs — like the grand marquee above the \u003ca href=\"https://www.flickr.com/photos/timothysallenphotos/15425403366/in/photolist-pv6e1s-S2TQCi-byMZqm-nLYrNm-reCtLa-ec4nmW-hP8mJe-5f73Nb-fmgBXC-hP7NFE-bouLXo-WbprYk-7UNNUX-4MwFkG-hP7Rrj-87P5qP-77A9NR-qYSPDB-qvTbxi-22L5HVa-jNBcdr-ck2ebU-4d2tt8-UWW7cp-hP8qac-bsJda-km21Wu-nHtaAC-agT8hS-5dUhiP-7S1Tji-qLDbhj-WdYxc-doTxpS-5dUgGi-e2VXYP-6pMR3Q-oRbsWY-dT4pmP-hp3cEg-eWAPwG-qmiDzR-ah7aAf-5vpnaQ-rjxLfv-5P4j4x-7H7U2J-iSX49-pTZeLd-5TbhPt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Castro Theatre\u003c/a>, the impossible-to-miss martini outside the \u003ca href=\"https://www.flickr.com/photos/inkvision/2592275580/in/photolist-4X56dy-N2P8wr-Mc4xsw-N2P8xt-Mp59x9-7oSNFL-69JJmx-crySMs-7CLYie-okPBjN-5Fkxya-a44392-a77MdT-7h49x-72PBu6-aw2FTz-6xX5k1-b32HvP-fH52GK-72PQRg-82GXmb-7CLYen-7CLXWz-qsywy6-72PR2F-bDBGpp-61utay-3d5yDB-8vJayc-4u5Qvn-7NWVfN-72PB86-8cB6hk-72PAQ4-72PQEn-bDBG2R-72TzAo-5QsRSr-r8czt7-aaHScm-72PADp-2o8PWA-2Eam27-7NSWog-4WZNfe-dNw5AZ-2E5TaK-2Ea1X7-dNw5tz-vGeWPH\">500 Club\u003c/a> or the \u003ca href=\"https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianstechschulte/4374010321/in/photolist-7EvWT4-7dBcRs-9cL63U-7NrwdN-ehKbQw-btfad6-oQPbrW-bheR5T-8BaA7V-4LijgG-i5RhA-e7jfud-dFXHP-4nRTRD-81nqoA-f4Ghhi-eCW3hJ-cQ8kq-8wCeRc-nrxFky-2Sh89-6Tj8YK-CRRYEw-iSrzWg-oWUV3e-cQ8d5-CRSdNm-v4MPNZ-UZDdMo-bJDYiT-DdMHmY-iSvrcA-dwWCM7-Tdb74Q-nAAmjr-nWja9b-rS173-nWj5X5-cQ6NY-fv98tB-ox9epA-8qJECs-bX5cx-zFa2L-72UZVX-7UKQA-cQ8ir-mPx86-5uVuje-6ivnxf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Port of San Francisco sign\u003c/a> glowing above the Ferry Building. These signs have one thing in common — they’re all neon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It may be hard to imagine today, but San Francisco was once full of neon signs. The city was right up there with places like New York, Los Angeles and even Las Vegas when it came to neon. Market Street alone had hundreds of signs lighting up the night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Every commercial corridor was just studded with neon,” says art historian and neon aficionado Al Barna. “It’s just amazing the amount of neon that San Francisco had.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11639023\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11639023 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Market Street in the 1960s. (Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Barna and his wife, Randall Ann Homan, are the authors of \u003ca href=\"http://neonbook.xyz/\">“San Francisco Neon: Survivors and Lost Icons,”\u003c/a> a photo book dedicated to the city’s neon heritage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A lot of the signs were designed for pedestrian traffic, whereas in Los Angeles, they were designed to be seen from automobiles,” says Barna. “So there’s a little more intimacy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Within the San Francisco city limits, signs in each neighborhood had a distinct look.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/bay-curious/2018/02/san-francisco-neon.mp3\" Image=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/Roxie-neon-sign_compressed.jpg\" Title=\"LISTEN: San Francisco Was Once Aglow With Neon\" program=\"Bay Curious\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the Mission, the signs are bigger,” Homan explains. “You have the Mission Theater, the Roxie and the 500 Club.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cow Hollow and the Marina district are on the opposite end of the spectrum, with small signs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They fit the scale of the neighborhood and buildings there,” Barna adds.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Lights Out\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In the late 1960s, interest in neon began to dim.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Neon came to be seen as blight,” Homan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Movies of the era used neon signs to highlight danger. It became associated with gangsters, crime, dodgy bars and strip clubs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You always think of the man standing by the window, desperate and alone, with the neon sign flashing in his face,” says Homan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not only was neon seen as the light source of seedy places, but it was also viewed as expensive and polluting.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">It was in 1898 when British scientists William Ramsay and Morris Travers filled the first glass tubes with neon gas and lit it with a small electrode. Their invention would go on to give cities around the globe a special glow.\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“But that’s far from the truth,” says neon artist Shawna Peterson. “If you properly dispose it, it’s not more toxic than other lights, such as fluorescent lamps.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Peterson is one of the few remaining neon artists left in the Bay Area. In the past decade, she and her colleagues have had a hard time accessing the materials they need.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are buying up old shops that people put on eBay … their old glass stock and equipment. We’re turning into hoarders of neon,” she says. “Our local distributors, that we used to buy everything from, they’re not carrying neon anymore.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11648700\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11648700\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Shawna Peterson in her Oakland workshop.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-1920x1080.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-520x293.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish.jpg 1950w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shawna Peterson in her Oakland workshop. \u003ccite>(Serginho Roosblad/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This is even more frustrating to Peterson, as neon is slowing making a comeback and business is picking up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Everyone is reverting to a historical look, a vintage look. It’s very popular now, but there’s less of us doing it, and we’re all swamped,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city has changed its tune on neon signs, too. The tenant facade improvement program that once gave businesses money to remove their neon signs now gives out grants to restore signs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11639020\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11639020 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Black & Blue Tattoo on Guerrero Street in the Mission has a smaller neon sign behind its window. (Serginho Roosblad/KQED)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Market Street will probably never again look like it did in the 1950s and ’60s, but with more businesses opting to go neon, some of that old glow is returning to San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>San Francisco has some seriously iconic signs — like the grand marquee above the \u003ca href=\"https://www.flickr.com/photos/timothysallenphotos/15425403366/in/photolist-pv6e1s-S2TQCi-byMZqm-nLYrNm-reCtLa-ec4nmW-hP8mJe-5f73Nb-fmgBXC-hP7NFE-bouLXo-WbprYk-7UNNUX-4MwFkG-hP7Rrj-87P5qP-77A9NR-qYSPDB-qvTbxi-22L5HVa-jNBcdr-ck2ebU-4d2tt8-UWW7cp-hP8qac-bsJda-km21Wu-nHtaAC-agT8hS-5dUhiP-7S1Tji-qLDbhj-WdYxc-doTxpS-5dUgGi-e2VXYP-6pMR3Q-oRbsWY-dT4pmP-hp3cEg-eWAPwG-qmiDzR-ah7aAf-5vpnaQ-rjxLfv-5P4j4x-7H7U2J-iSX49-pTZeLd-5TbhPt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Castro Theatre\u003c/a>, the impossible-to-miss martini outside the \u003ca href=\"https://www.flickr.com/photos/inkvision/2592275580/in/photolist-4X56dy-N2P8wr-Mc4xsw-N2P8xt-Mp59x9-7oSNFL-69JJmx-crySMs-7CLYie-okPBjN-5Fkxya-a44392-a77MdT-7h49x-72PBu6-aw2FTz-6xX5k1-b32HvP-fH52GK-72PQRg-82GXmb-7CLYen-7CLXWz-qsywy6-72PR2F-bDBGpp-61utay-3d5yDB-8vJayc-4u5Qvn-7NWVfN-72PB86-8cB6hk-72PAQ4-72PQEn-bDBG2R-72TzAo-5QsRSr-r8czt7-aaHScm-72PADp-2o8PWA-2Eam27-7NSWog-4WZNfe-dNw5AZ-2E5TaK-2Ea1X7-dNw5tz-vGeWPH\">500 Club\u003c/a> or the \u003ca href=\"https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianstechschulte/4374010321/in/photolist-7EvWT4-7dBcRs-9cL63U-7NrwdN-ehKbQw-btfad6-oQPbrW-bheR5T-8BaA7V-4LijgG-i5RhA-e7jfud-dFXHP-4nRTRD-81nqoA-f4Ghhi-eCW3hJ-cQ8kq-8wCeRc-nrxFky-2Sh89-6Tj8YK-CRRYEw-iSrzWg-oWUV3e-cQ8d5-CRSdNm-v4MPNZ-UZDdMo-bJDYiT-DdMHmY-iSvrcA-dwWCM7-Tdb74Q-nAAmjr-nWja9b-rS173-nWj5X5-cQ6NY-fv98tB-ox9epA-8qJECs-bX5cx-zFa2L-72UZVX-7UKQA-cQ8ir-mPx86-5uVuje-6ivnxf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Port of San Francisco sign\u003c/a> glowing above the Ferry Building. These signs have one thing in common — they’re all neon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It may be hard to imagine today, but San Francisco was once full of neon signs. The city was right up there with places like New York, Los Angeles and even Las Vegas when it came to neon. Market Street alone had hundreds of signs lighting up the night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Every commercial corridor was just studded with neon,” says art historian and neon aficionado Al Barna. “It’s just amazing the amount of neon that San Francisco had.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11639023\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11639023 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Market-St-1960s-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Market Street in the 1960s. (Getty Images)\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Barna and his wife, Randall Ann Homan, are the authors of \u003ca href=\"http://neonbook.xyz/\">“San Francisco Neon: Survivors and Lost Icons,”\u003c/a> a photo book dedicated to the city’s neon heritage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the Mission, the signs are bigger,” Homan explains. “You have the Mission Theater, the Roxie and the 500 Club.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cow Hollow and the Marina district are on the opposite end of the spectrum, with small signs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They fit the scale of the neighborhood and buildings there,” Barna adds.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Lights Out\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In the late 1960s, interest in neon began to dim.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Neon came to be seen as blight,” Homan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Movies of the era used neon signs to highlight danger. It became associated with gangsters, crime, dodgy bars and strip clubs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You always think of the man standing by the window, desperate and alone, with the neon sign flashing in his face,” says Homan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not only was neon seen as the light source of seedy places, but it was also viewed as expensive and polluting.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">It was in 1898 when British scientists William Ramsay and Morris Travers filled the first glass tubes with neon gas and lit it with a small electrode. Their invention would go on to give cities around the globe a special glow.\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“But that’s far from the truth,” says neon artist Shawna Peterson. “If you properly dispose it, it’s not more toxic than other lights, such as fluorescent lamps.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Peterson is one of the few remaining neon artists left in the Bay Area. In the past decade, she and her colleagues have had a hard time accessing the materials they need.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are buying up old shops that people put on eBay … their old glass stock and equipment. We’re turning into hoarders of neon,” she says. “Our local distributors, that we used to buy everything from, they’re not carrying neon anymore.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11648700\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11648700\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Shawna Peterson in her Oakland workshop.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-1920x1080.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish-520x293.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/02/neonsmallish.jpg 1950w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shawna Peterson in her Oakland workshop. \u003ccite>(Serginho Roosblad/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This is even more frustrating to Peterson, as neon is slowing making a comeback and business is picking up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Everyone is reverting to a historical look, a vintage look. It’s very popular now, but there’s less of us doing it, and we’re all swamped,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The city has changed its tune on neon signs, too. The tenant facade improvement program that once gave businesses money to remove their neon signs now gives out grants to restore signs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11639020\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11639020 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Black-Blue-tattoo-sign-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Black & Blue Tattoo on Guerrero Street in the Mission has a smaller neon sign behind its window. 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"content": "\u003cp>In the heart of the Tenderloin, in the parking lot of a tire shop, stands a roughly 7-foot sign atop two poles about two stories high. You might expect to see advertising for deals on tires or auto services on the sign. Instead, you’ll find inspirational quotes, truisms and sayings. And it’s been like that for more than 50 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642834\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 160px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-11642834\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/john-160x240.jpg\" alt=\"John Angelico has been noticing the sign's sayings for years. \" width=\"160\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/john-160x240.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/john.jpg 217w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">John Angelico has been noticing the sign’s sayings for years. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of John Angelico)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>San Francisco columnist Herb Caen once called the sign at the corner of Turk and Larkin “the city’s biggest fortune cookie.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This sign also piqued the interest of Bay Curious listener John Angelico of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For a tire shop to have this huge marquee out front giving us something totally unrelated to the sale of tires and auto services … It’s kind of a very San Franciscan thing,” says Angelico.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wanted to know:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>“When did the sign get started? Who is responsible for the sign’s content, and what kind of reaction have they had over the years from the sign?”\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642277\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 612px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11642277\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o.jpg\" alt=\"The sign in front of Khan and Keville.\" width=\"612\" height=\"612\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o.jpg 612w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-160x160.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-240x240.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-375x375.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-520x520.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-32x32.jpg 32w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-50x50.jpg 50w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-64x64.jpg 64w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-96x96.jpg 96w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-128x128.jpg 128w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 612px) 100vw, 612px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The sign in front of Kahn and Keville. \u003ccite>(Eric Steuer/Flickr)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>A Message From Above\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The story begins with Hugh Keville, co-founder of the tire shop, Kahn and Keville.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He was a gentleman, very kind, extremely dignified. Very solicitous of other people and, you know, just a very old-fashioned guy,” says Bill Brinnon, the office manager.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After opening the first tire shop in 1912 on Golden Gate Avenue, Keville served in World War I. While at war, he carried a small notebook for collecting quotes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I wrote them down to help carry me through,” Keville reportedly once said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Brinnon, Keville saw some gruesome battles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Most of his patrol were wiped out and in kind of gory and bloody fashion right in front of him,” Brinnon says. “He was a young man at the time and it had a big effect on him.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642273\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11642273\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-1020x1360.jpg\" alt=\"Bill Brannon in front of portraits of the shops co-founders. Harry Khan is on the left, Hugh Keville is on the right.\" width=\"640\" height=\"853\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-1180x1573.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-960x1280.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-240x320.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-375x500.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-520x693.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Office manager Bill Brinnon in front of portraits of the shop’s co-founders. Harry Kahn is on the left, Hugh Keville is on the right. \u003ccite>(KQED/Jessica Placzek)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>After returning from war, Keville started writing the quotes he’d collected on a small blackboard inside the tire shop, next to the cashier’s window. Customers and friends liked them enough that it became a tradition. Soon he was putting up new quotes each week, and he continued the tradition even after Kahn and Keville opened a new tire shop on Turk and Larkin streets in 1934.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One day, a customer suggested to Keville that he move the quotes outside so more people could see them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And boy, did he.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 1958, Keville had the giant sign installed in the parking lot. Its sole purpose was for presenting quotes.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Sign Today\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Keville is no longer around, and he passed the sign duty on to Bill Brinnon in the 1970s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brinnon was the perfect fit for such an important task. He has loved language for a long time. In college he studied English and architecture. After graduation he worked in a bookstore and then a publishing company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642231\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11642231\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/6135A504-88BA-4B06-A112-B06CAA4DFFB8-1020x765.jpg\" alt=\"Bill Brinnon in front of the Khan and Keville's sign.\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bill Brinnon in front of the Kahn and Keville sign. \u003ccite>(Jessica Placzek/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>These days the sign changes roughly every four to six weeks. They come from what Brinnon is reading, “and then of course employees can bring things in, and everybody knows we do it, so they’ll say, ‘Oh, here’s a good one, you’ll like it,’ ” says Brinnon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A lot of the feedback they receive are calls from bus riders, who pass the sign on their daily routes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brinnon tells me he prefers truisms, humor and quotes that play with language, though some believe the quotes have a political bent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I had a little encounter last night with a passer-by and he had all kinds of ideas about what we put up there. And he thought we were too political and I don’t feel we are. So I went back and checked the records, and the quote we put out had nothing to do with politics,” says Brinnon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642437\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11642437\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7.jpg\" alt=\"The sign in front of the tire shop, Khan and Keville. \" width=\"640\" height=\"561\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7-160x140.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7-240x210.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7-375x329.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7-520x456.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The sign in front of the tire shop, Kahn and Keville.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Recently, the sign displayed a quote by Voltaire saying, “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though Brinnon admits he’s concerned about the state of the nation, he says he does his best to keep his politics off the sign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think there are some real problems and dangers facing us. Because it’s a government based on impulse. … It’s not what we’re used to, but the corner sign is what we’re used to. We don’t change too much around here,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it could change. This store was once one of many tire shops that made up Tire Row. All the other shops have shuttered, and tech giants like Uber and Twitter have moved nearby. Brinnon knows that this tire shop may not be around much longer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousbug]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As far as the industry itself — the idea of an old stand-alone tire store where they sell nothing but tires is probably a thing of the past,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Selection Process\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>I visited Brinnon two months ago, to see how the quotes get selected.\u003cbr>\nWhen I arrived, Brinnon had narrowed it down to four options:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“WE DON’T KNOW WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE ARE READY TO BITE SOMEBODY TO GET IT.” – WILL ROGERS.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I CAN SEE NOT EVERYONE HAS A SEAT AT THE TABLE, IT’S TIME TO BUILD A BIGGER TABLE.” – RANDY BRYCE IRONWORKER.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“IT’S NEVER ENTIRELY HEARTENING TO LEARN THAT FASCISTS ARE ALWAYS INCOMPETENT.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“BUILD A WALL ON THE INTERNET AND MAKE RUSSIA PAY FOR IT.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Next, Brinnon writes them out on a piece of paper the way they’d look on the board and shows them to various employees in the shop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He talks to tire technicians, office workers and the general manager.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The one that got everyone talking was the quote about Russia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They meddled in the election, Russia did, and took my vote away!” says Ron Dhein, the general manager.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A week later, that quote was on the sign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642433\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11642433\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-800x420.jpg\" alt=\"The quote that made it through the final cut.\" width=\"800\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-800x420.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-160x84.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-1020x536.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-1180x620.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-960x504.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-240x126.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-375x197.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-520x273.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The quote that made it through the final cut. \u003ccite>(\u003ca href=\"http://lostinsf.com/en/wisdom-of-the-sign-at-turk-and-larkin-in-the-tenderloin\" target=\"_blank\">Lost in SF\u003c/a>)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>In the heart of the Tenderloin, in the parking lot of a tire shop, stands a roughly 7-foot sign atop two poles about two stories high. You might expect to see advertising for deals on tires or auto services on the sign. Instead, you’ll find inspirational quotes, truisms and sayings. And it’s been like that for more than 50 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642834\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 160px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-11642834\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/john-160x240.jpg\" alt=\"John Angelico has been noticing the sign's sayings for years. \" width=\"160\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/john-160x240.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/john.jpg 217w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">John Angelico has been noticing the sign’s sayings for years. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of John Angelico)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>San Francisco columnist Herb Caen once called the sign at the corner of Turk and Larkin “the city’s biggest fortune cookie.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This sign also piqued the interest of Bay Curious listener John Angelico of San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For a tire shop to have this huge marquee out front giving us something totally unrelated to the sale of tires and auto services … It’s kind of a very San Franciscan thing,” says Angelico.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He wanted to know:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>“When did the sign get started? Who is responsible for the sign’s content, and what kind of reaction have they had over the years from the sign?”\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642277\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 612px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11642277\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o.jpg\" alt=\"The sign in front of Khan and Keville.\" width=\"612\" height=\"612\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o.jpg 612w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-160x160.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-240x240.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-375x375.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-520x520.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-32x32.jpg 32w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-50x50.jpg 50w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-64x64.jpg 64w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-96x96.jpg 96w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-128x128.jpg 128w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/5339724475_d941dc5592_o-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 612px) 100vw, 612px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The sign in front of Kahn and Keville. \u003ccite>(Eric Steuer/Flickr)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>A Message From Above\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The story begins with Hugh Keville, co-founder of the tire shop, Kahn and Keville.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He was a gentleman, very kind, extremely dignified. Very solicitous of other people and, you know, just a very old-fashioned guy,” says Bill Brinnon, the office manager.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After opening the first tire shop in 1912 on Golden Gate Avenue, Keville served in World War I. While at war, he carried a small notebook for collecting quotes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I wrote them down to help carry me through,” Keville reportedly once said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Brinnon, Keville saw some gruesome battles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Most of his patrol were wiped out and in kind of gory and bloody fashion right in front of him,” Brinnon says. “He was a young man at the time and it had a big effect on him.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642273\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11642273\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-1020x1360.jpg\" alt=\"Bill Brannon in front of portraits of the shops co-founders. Harry Khan is on the left, Hugh Keville is on the right.\" width=\"640\" height=\"853\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-1180x1573.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-960x1280.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-240x320.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-375x500.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694-520x693.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/180F907E-BDDB-43CF-BFA2-B64E3553BF81-1-e1516145147694.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Office manager Bill Brinnon in front of portraits of the shop’s co-founders. Harry Kahn is on the left, Hugh Keville is on the right. \u003ccite>(KQED/Jessica Placzek)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>After returning from war, Keville started writing the quotes he’d collected on a small blackboard inside the tire shop, next to the cashier’s window. Customers and friends liked them enough that it became a tradition. Soon he was putting up new quotes each week, and he continued the tradition even after Kahn and Keville opened a new tire shop on Turk and Larkin streets in 1934.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One day, a customer suggested to Keville that he move the quotes outside so more people could see them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And boy, did he.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 1958, Keville had the giant sign installed in the parking lot. Its sole purpose was for presenting quotes.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Sign Today\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Keville is no longer around, and he passed the sign duty on to Bill Brinnon in the 1970s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brinnon was the perfect fit for such an important task. He has loved language for a long time. In college he studied English and architecture. After graduation he worked in a bookstore and then a publishing company.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642231\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11642231\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/6135A504-88BA-4B06-A112-B06CAA4DFFB8-1020x765.jpg\" alt=\"Bill Brinnon in front of the Khan and Keville's sign.\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bill Brinnon in front of the Kahn and Keville sign. \u003ccite>(Jessica Placzek/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>These days the sign changes roughly every four to six weeks. They come from what Brinnon is reading, “and then of course employees can bring things in, and everybody knows we do it, so they’ll say, ‘Oh, here’s a good one, you’ll like it,’ ” says Brinnon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A lot of the feedback they receive are calls from bus riders, who pass the sign on their daily routes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brinnon tells me he prefers truisms, humor and quotes that play with language, though some believe the quotes have a political bent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I had a little encounter last night with a passer-by and he had all kinds of ideas about what we put up there. And he thought we were too political and I don’t feel we are. So I went back and checked the records, and the quote we put out had nothing to do with politics,” says Brinnon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642437\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11642437\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7.jpg\" alt=\"The sign in front of the tire shop, Khan and Keville. \" width=\"640\" height=\"561\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7-160x140.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7-240x210.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7-375x329.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign7-520x456.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The sign in front of the tire shop, Kahn and Keville.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Recently, the sign displayed a quote by Voltaire saying, “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though Brinnon admits he’s concerned about the state of the nation, he says he does his best to keep his politics off the sign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think there are some real problems and dangers facing us. Because it’s a government based on impulse. … It’s not what we’re used to, but the corner sign is what we’re used to. We don’t change too much around here,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it could change. This store was once one of many tire shops that made up Tire Row. All the other shops have shuttered, and tech giants like Uber and Twitter have moved nearby. Brinnon knows that this tire shop may not be around much longer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n What do you wonder about the Bay Area, its culture or people that you want KQED to investigate?\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Ask Bay Curious.\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As far as the industry itself — the idea of an old stand-alone tire store where they sell nothing but tires is probably a thing of the past,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Selection Process\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>I visited Brinnon two months ago, to see how the quotes get selected.\u003cbr>\nWhen I arrived, Brinnon had narrowed it down to four options:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“WE DON’T KNOW WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE ARE READY TO BITE SOMEBODY TO GET IT.” – WILL ROGERS.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I CAN SEE NOT EVERYONE HAS A SEAT AT THE TABLE, IT’S TIME TO BUILD A BIGGER TABLE.” – RANDY BRYCE IRONWORKER.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“IT’S NEVER ENTIRELY HEARTENING TO LEARN THAT FASCISTS ARE ALWAYS INCOMPETENT.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“BUILD A WALL ON THE INTERNET AND MAKE RUSSIA PAY FOR IT.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Next, Brinnon writes them out on a piece of paper the way they’d look on the board and shows them to various employees in the shop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He talks to tire technicians, office workers and the general manager.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The one that got everyone talking was the quote about Russia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They meddled in the election, Russia did, and took my vote away!” says Ron Dhein, the general manager.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A week later, that quote was on the sign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11642433\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11642433\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-800x420.jpg\" alt=\"The quote that made it through the final cut.\" width=\"800\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-800x420.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-160x84.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-1020x536.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-1180x620.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-960x504.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-240x126.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-375x197.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4-520x273.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/sign4.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The quote that made it through the final cut. \u003ccite>(\u003ca href=\"http://lostinsf.com/en/wisdom-of-the-sign-at-turk-and-larkin-in-the-tenderloin\" target=\"_blank\">Lost in SF\u003c/a>)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Update: On Sept. 25, 2018, three school board members brought forward a resolution calling for the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11693522/two-s-f-school-board-commissioners-to-introduce-resolution-ending-lottery-system\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">end of the current student assignment system\u003c/a>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[dropcap]L[/dropcap]aurel Gaddie and Lamont Lucas try to conduct life as locally as possible. They live in San Francisco’s Duboce Triangle and don’t own a car. They shop locally and walk, bike or ride public transportation when they need to get around. So when it came to finding a kindergarten for their son, Kelvin, local was a priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousbug]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Proximity was the most important thing and diversity was a close second,” Gaddie said. “We wanted our kids to meet kids from different communities. And third, we were hoping for a Spanish-immersion program.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The schools that fit those criteria weren’t the most popular ones in San Francisco, so Gaddie felt pretty confident that she’d get something she wanted. But, to make sure, she took \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfkfiles.com/2014/11/what-are-your-best-sf-school-enrollment.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">some advice\u003c/a> about how to list her choices.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch2>By The Numbers\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11641324\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-160x102.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"223\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-160x102.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-800x510.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-240x153.png 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-375x239.png 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-520x331.png 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM.png 863w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We analyzed 2017-2018 kindergarten assignment data to see how common parental tactics play out. \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/01/10/s-f-s-kindergarten-lottery-do-parents-tricks-work/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">See what we found.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“We read a lot on the internet about how to game the system, this famous San Francisco lottery system,” Gaddie said. “And we kind of crafted our first lottery list around that. We listed 17 different schools, only a handful of which we really wanted.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first-round assignment offers came out in March. “We were shocked to find we were assigned to something that was not on our list and not in our neighborhood,” Gaddie said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is the nightmare of many San Francisco families looking to enroll their children in public school. For many, San Francisco Unified School District’s (SFUSD) \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/enroll-in-sfusd-schools/how-to-apply-for-school/application-process.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">student assignment system\u003c/a> — called the lottery by many — is a mixture of overwhelming, stressful and baffling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In many places around the country, where a child lives determines where he or she goes to school. San Francisco doesn’t do that because of segregated housing patterns. Creating diverse schools is a district goal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Your opportunity to go to a school shouldn’t be determined by your home address, just like your opportunity to go to a library or a public park shouldn’t be determined by your home address,” said Orla O’Keeffe, chief of policy and operations for SFUSD.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11641272\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11641272\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-1020x574.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-960x540.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-240x135.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-375x211.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">McKinley Elementary is in Laurel Gaddie’s neighborhood and was on her list, but her son didn’t receive any of their choices in the first round of the San Francisco school lottery. \u003ccite>(Katrina Schwartz/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The lottery as we know it today is the product of \u003ca href=\"http://sfpublicpress.org/news/2015-02/as-courts-flip-flopped-on-school-integration-diversity-has-remained-elusive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more than 40 years of trying to solve the problem\u003c/a> of segregated schools. In the 1970s, SFUSD tried bussing kids from one neighborhood to another, but parents hated that and many left the district altogether. Next the district tried a combination of parental choice and racial quotas, trying to find a balance between the autonomy parents craved and integration. But race-based admissions were \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/16/us/lawsuit-could-decide-future-desegregation-efforts-san-francisco-schools.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">challenged in court\u003c/a> and the district had to drop the quota system altogether.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The current lottery system tries to balance parental choice with the district’s goals of integrated schools. It puts the onus of \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/enroll-in-sfusd-schools/how-to-find-a-school.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">researching and visiting schools \u003c/a>on parents, who then list their choices and submit an application to the district office in person. The district prepares student files and puts them into an algorithm programmed to \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/enroll-in-sfusd-schools/how-to-apply-for-school/apply-for-elementary-school.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">give priority to a few select groups\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How it works\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The algorithm randomly selects a school and then looks at all the students who listed that school as a choice anywhere on their list and puts them in a pool together. The computer then fills the available spots at the school based on tiebreakers. The tiebreakers are:\u003c/p>\n\u003col>\n\u003cli>Sibling preference — if the student already has a sibling at the school.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://enrollinschool.org/lookup/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Census Tract Integration Preference\u003c/a> (CTIP) — kids who live in parts of the city with the worst test scores.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Attendance area — kids who live in the designated attendance area for that school.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ol>\n\u003cp>If there are more spots at the school after all the kids with tiebreakers have been placed, the algorithm fills the remainder randomly from the pool of people who requested it.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2018/01/Podcast-e1515628002599.jpg\" alt=\"\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/id1078765985\">Subscribe in iTunes\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Don’t miss an episode of the \u003cstrong>\u003cem>MindShift Podcast\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>This same process happens for every school until the only schools with open spots are ones that none of the remaining unassigned children listed. At this point in the process, some kids might have been tentatively assigned to more than one school because they had strong tiebreakers. This is when the algorithm takes into account where a school was ranked on the student’s list. It drops the child from every school except the highest-ranked choice. Now there are open spots again, which the algorithm fills from the group of kids who have not been assigned any school yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At this point, the district built in something called a “swapping mechanism” on the advice of some economists who said it would help prevent parents from trying to “game the system.” During the swapping phase, the algorithm sees if there are any two children who could both be happier if they trade their spots. The district says the \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/assets/sfusd-staff/enroll/files/Presentation_Dec_7_2017_reduced_size.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">swapping mechanism affected 10 percent of Round 1 kindergarten\u003c/a> offers in the 2017-18 school year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After all that, there are still some unlucky kids who haven’t been assigned to a school. They didn’t get any of their choices, so the district places them in a school with open spots based on proximity to their home address.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The district sends the first-round assignments in March, at which point parents can either decide to enroll in the school they received or enter the second round of the lottery. People who miss the deadline can also enter in the second round, but the number of options is smaller because some portion of families took their first-round offer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If parents still don’t get a school they are happy with after the second round, they can put their child on the waitlist for one school, in case a child enrolled there leaves. Some kids do get into their first-choice school at the last minute this way. If a child receives an offer off the waitlist, she has to take it, even if she’s already happy at a different school.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How do parents feel about it?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Some parents feel this lottery system is \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/03/17/anxious-parents-try-to-game-system-in-san-francisco-school-lottery/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">overly complicated and stressful \u003c/a>to families, but for others, CTIP is the only way that their children can access better schools. Raquel Knighten lives in the Bayview, but sends her kids to Rooftop, a highly coveted school on Twin Peaks. Her two kids ride a school bus to get there every day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Knighten wishes the schools in her neighborhood were better, so that she didn’t feel forced to send her kids far away. She’d like the luxury other parents seem to have, choosing schools based on language programs or a focus on the arts. She’s just glad her kids aren’t going to an underperforming school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot of anxiety, but I think overall, it’s a much better feeling than, ‘Your child has to go to this school.’ And you have no options,” Knighten said. She’s frustrated with parents who complain about the lottery without considering what that choice means to other families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think a lot of parents are selfish,” Knighten said. “They only think about things and worry about stuff when it applies to their children. And they don’t care how it affects other people’s children. I think overall as parents we should be concerned about every child getting an adequate education because every generation goes to the future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s glad the school district makes an effort to prioritize diversity at its schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I just think we have to teach each other to be more accepting, and you can’t do that if you’re not around people who don’t look like you,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Knighten chose Rooftop because she had heard from other parents that it was one of the best schools in the city. But parents are making very individual choices about where to send their kids based on geography, work schedules, after-school programming, start times, language programs and more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Heather Dobbins missed the first-round deadline when her son, Keegan, was applying to kindergarten. Keegan was assigned a school Dobbins didn’t want, so she put him in private school. That didn’t work out and Dobbins ended up home-schooling her son for several months. She entered the public school lottery again for first grade and got the same school — Cobb Elementary. This time she gave it a chance and her son loves it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Now we know, look for the schools that have what you need, rather than the top 10 schools on everybody’s list,” Dobbins. She admits in her initial kindergarten search she was close-minded about what a “good” school looks like, but her experience at Cobb has taught her that lots of schools can offer a good fit. But she hasn’t changed her mind about one thing — she still hates the lottery system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a burden on every parent, and I’m amazed that more kids don’t go unenrolled,” Dobbins said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other parents had a variety of opinions about the lottery. Some didn’t think it was that big a deal — just turn the forms in on time. Others, similar to Raquel Knighten, know that where they live gives them a preference in the lottery, and were weighing choices carefully.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mink Lincoln-Price has been very worried about how her African-American sons will fare in school. She’s watches the news and sees the reports about how schools are failing black boys. When she visits schools, she’s looking to make sure the leadership understands that this achievement gap is a problem. She wants to hear that principals are actively addressing implicit bias on campus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For me it’s really about the academics,” Lincoln-Price said. “Of course I would like them to go to a school where they could have friends that look like them, but of course you can make friends with anybody. Because honestly if they do go to a school with a majority of the kids that look like them, most likely there won’t be any money at that school.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11641267\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11641267 size-large\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Mink-Lincoln-Price-1020x574.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Mink-Lincoln-Price-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Mink-Lincoln-Price-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Mink-Lincoln-Price-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Mink-Lincoln-Price.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Mink-Lincoln-Price-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Mink-Lincoln-Price-960x540.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Mink-Lincoln-Price-240x135.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Mink-Lincoln-Price-375x211.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Mink-Lincoln-Price-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mink Lincoln-Price has been visiting schools to find out how principals plan to address the \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfexaminer.com/black-student-achievement-focus-sfusd-superintendents-first-three-months-office/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">achievement gap for black boys\u003c/a>. \u003ccite>(Katrina Schwartz/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Sadly, she’s right. All schools get state funding based on the number of students enrolled, so schools with fewer students get less money. Of course, it’s not as simple as that. California’s \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/02/08/will-new-funding-formula-move-schools-towards-education-equity/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">funding formula\u003c/a> portions out more money for schools that serve low-income children, English language learners, and foster kids. But at schools with wealthier parents, it’s not uncommon for the Parent Teacher Association (PTA) to \u003ca href=\"http://sfpublicpress.org/news/2014-02/how-budget-cuts-and-PTA-fundraising-undermined-equity-in-san-francisco-public-schools\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">raise hundreds of thousands of dollars\u003c/a> to support the school.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Is the lottery making schools more diverse?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Despite the district’s attempt to give families living in parts of the city with low test scores a preference in the school lottery, parents’ choices seem to be patterned. That could be due to the logistics of getting a child to school, but it also could be a sign some parents lack information about the various options around the city. The district makes an attempt to reach out widely with information and nonprofit groups do as well, but often parents get information from one another.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bilingual and Spanish-immersion programs often draw Latino families who want to be able to help their kids with homework and be able to confer with the teacher. Many parents want a school that’s close to home in case there are emergencies. And few elementary school parents are eager to put their 5-year-olds on Muni buses to attend school across town. The \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/transportation/school-bus-schedules.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">district runs several buses\u003c/a> on routes designed to give students more access, but seats are limited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/01/10/s-f-s-kindergarten-lottery-do-parents-tricks-work/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">KQED’s analysis of 2017-2018 kindergarten assignment data \u003c/a>shows that almost 60 percent of students attend a school out of their ZIP code — so there’s a lot of moving around. But those numbers varied greatly by geography. For example, 75 percent of kids living in the Outer Richmond stayed there for school, while 87 percent of kids in the Bayview left their ZIP code. And even when students leave their ZIP code, they may not be going far.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re not all going across town,” said O’Keeffe. “In many cases it’s just kind of the next few neighborhoods that they’re going to school to, like the Excelsior, or Vis Valley, the Mission, stuff like that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ultimately, although San Francisco’s choice system does give some kids a way out of their neighborhoods, it isn’t doing a great job of desegregating the district’s schools overall. Choice patterns are just as segregated as housing patterns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Choice is complex and it is time-consuming and it does create angst and it’s not currently creating diversity,” O’Keeffe said. “I do think, though, that student assignment alone will never solve for this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, she says the district is committed to trying. The school board is considering a number of changes to the student assignment process, including doing away with the swapping mechanism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re concerned that it’s complicated and difficult to understand and that it encourages families to list schools they don’t want as a strategy to get a choice,” O’Keeffe said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A choice system like this one benefits parents who have the time and wherewithal to seek out information, and the ability to have their children attend the schools they like, even if it’s a difficult commute. O’Keeffe knows this, but says there’s no easy solution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you’ve got choice patterns that are racially isolated, how can choice solve it? And if you’ve got residential patterns that are racially isolated, how can neighborhoods solve it?” she asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Update: On Sept. 25, 2018, three school board members brought forward a resolution calling for the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11693522/two-s-f-school-board-commissioners-to-introduce-resolution-ending-lottery-system\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">end of the current student assignment system\u003c/a>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">L\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>aurel Gaddie and Lamont Lucas try to conduct life as locally as possible. They live in San Francisco’s Duboce Triangle and don’t own a car. They shop locally and walk, bike or ride public transportation when they need to get around. So when it came to finding a kindergarten for their son, Kelvin, local was a priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n What do you wonder about the Bay Area, its culture or people that you want KQED to investigate?\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Ask Bay Curious.\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Proximity was the most important thing and diversity was a close second,” Gaddie said. “We wanted our kids to meet kids from different communities. And third, we were hoping for a Spanish-immersion program.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The schools that fit those criteria weren’t the most popular ones in San Francisco, so Gaddie felt pretty confident that she’d get something she wanted. But, to make sure, she took \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfkfiles.com/2014/11/what-are-your-best-sf-school-enrollment.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">some advice\u003c/a> about how to list her choices.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch2>By The Numbers\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11641324\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-160x102.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"223\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-160x102.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-800x510.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-240x153.png 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-375x239.png 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM-520x331.png 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-10-at-2.28.51-PM.png 863w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We analyzed 2017-2018 kindergarten assignment data to see how common parental tactics play out. \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/01/10/s-f-s-kindergarten-lottery-do-parents-tricks-work/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">See what we found.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>“We read a lot on the internet about how to game the system, this famous San Francisco lottery system,” Gaddie said. “And we kind of crafted our first lottery list around that. We listed 17 different schools, only a handful of which we really wanted.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first-round assignment offers came out in March. “We were shocked to find we were assigned to something that was not on our list and not in our neighborhood,” Gaddie said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is the nightmare of many San Francisco families looking to enroll their children in public school. For many, San Francisco Unified School District’s (SFUSD) \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/enroll-in-sfusd-schools/how-to-apply-for-school/application-process.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">student assignment system\u003c/a> — called the lottery by many — is a mixture of overwhelming, stressful and baffling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In many places around the country, where a child lives determines where he or she goes to school. San Francisco doesn’t do that because of segregated housing patterns. Creating diverse schools is a district goal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Your opportunity to go to a school shouldn’t be determined by your home address, just like your opportunity to go to a library or a public park shouldn’t be determined by your home address,” said Orla O’Keeffe, chief of policy and operations for SFUSD.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11641272\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-11641272\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-1020x574.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-160x90.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-800x450.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-960x540.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-240x135.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-375x211.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/McKinley-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">McKinley Elementary is in Laurel Gaddie’s neighborhood and was on her list, but her son didn’t receive any of their choices in the first round of the San Francisco school lottery. \u003ccite>(Katrina Schwartz/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The lottery as we know it today is the product of \u003ca href=\"http://sfpublicpress.org/news/2015-02/as-courts-flip-flopped-on-school-integration-diversity-has-remained-elusive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more than 40 years of trying to solve the problem\u003c/a> of segregated schools. In the 1970s, SFUSD tried bussing kids from one neighborhood to another, but parents hated that and many left the district altogether. Next the district tried a combination of parental choice and racial quotas, trying to find a balance between the autonomy parents craved and integration. But race-based admissions were \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/16/us/lawsuit-could-decide-future-desegregation-efforts-san-francisco-schools.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">challenged in court\u003c/a> and the district had to drop the quota system altogether.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The current lottery system tries to balance parental choice with the district’s goals of integrated schools. It puts the onus of \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/enroll-in-sfusd-schools/how-to-find-a-school.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">researching and visiting schools \u003c/a>on parents, who then list their choices and submit an application to the district office in person. The district prepares student files and puts them into an algorithm programmed to \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/enroll-in-sfusd-schools/how-to-apply-for-school/apply-for-elementary-school.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">give priority to a few select groups\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How it works\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The algorithm randomly selects a school and then looks at all the students who listed that school as a choice anywhere on their list and puts them in a pool together. The computer then fills the available spots at the school based on tiebreakers. The tiebreakers are:\u003c/p>\n\u003col>\n\u003cli>Sibling preference — if the student already has a sibling at the school.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://enrollinschool.org/lookup/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Census Tract Integration Preference\u003c/a> (CTIP) — kids who live in parts of the city with the worst test scores.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Attendance area — kids who live in the designated attendance area for that school.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ol>\n\u003cp>If there are more spots at the school after all the kids with tiebreakers have been placed, the algorithm fills the remainder randomly from the pool of people who requested it.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2018/01/Podcast-e1515628002599.jpg\" alt=\"\">\n\u003ch3>\u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/id1078765985\">Subscribe in iTunes\u003c/a>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Don’t miss an episode of the \u003cstrong>\u003cem>MindShift Podcast\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>This same process happens for every school until the only schools with open spots are ones that none of the remaining unassigned children listed. At this point in the process, some kids might have been tentatively assigned to more than one school because they had strong tiebreakers. This is when the algorithm takes into account where a school was ranked on the student’s list. It drops the child from every school except the highest-ranked choice. Now there are open spots again, which the algorithm fills from the group of kids who have not been assigned any school yet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At this point, the district built in something called a “swapping mechanism” on the advice of some economists who said it would help prevent parents from trying to “game the system.” During the swapping phase, the algorithm sees if there are any two children who could both be happier if they trade their spots. The district says the \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/assets/sfusd-staff/enroll/files/Presentation_Dec_7_2017_reduced_size.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">swapping mechanism affected 10 percent of Round 1 kindergarten\u003c/a> offers in the 2017-18 school year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After all that, there are still some unlucky kids who haven’t been assigned to a school. They didn’t get any of their choices, so the district places them in a school with open spots based on proximity to their home address.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The district sends the first-round assignments in March, at which point parents can either decide to enroll in the school they received or enter the second round of the lottery. People who miss the deadline can also enter in the second round, but the number of options is smaller because some portion of families took their first-round offer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If parents still don’t get a school they are happy with after the second round, they can put their child on the waitlist for one school, in case a child enrolled there leaves. Some kids do get into their first-choice school at the last minute this way. If a child receives an offer off the waitlist, she has to take it, even if she’s already happy at a different school.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>How do parents feel about it?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Some parents feel this lottery system is \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/03/17/anxious-parents-try-to-game-system-in-san-francisco-school-lottery/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">overly complicated and stressful \u003c/a>to families, but for others, CTIP is the only way that their children can access better schools. Raquel Knighten lives in the Bayview, but sends her kids to Rooftop, a highly coveted school on Twin Peaks. Her two kids ride a school bus to get there every day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Knighten wishes the schools in her neighborhood were better, so that she didn’t feel forced to send her kids far away. She’d like the luxury other parents seem to have, choosing schools based on language programs or a focus on the arts. She’s just glad her kids aren’t going to an underperforming school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s a lot of anxiety, but I think overall, it’s a much better feeling than, ‘Your child has to go to this school.’ And you have no options,” Knighten said. She’s frustrated with parents who complain about the lottery without considering what that choice means to other families.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think a lot of parents are selfish,” Knighten said. “They only think about things and worry about stuff when it applies to their children. And they don’t care how it affects other people’s children. I think overall as parents we should be concerned about every child getting an adequate education because every generation goes to the future.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s glad the school district makes an effort to prioritize diversity at its schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I just think we have to teach each other to be more accepting, and you can’t do that if you’re not around people who don’t look like you,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Knighten chose Rooftop because she had heard from other parents that it was one of the best schools in the city. But parents are making very individual choices about where to send their kids based on geography, work schedules, after-school programming, start times, language programs and more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Heather Dobbins missed the first-round deadline when her son, Keegan, was applying to kindergarten. Keegan was assigned a school Dobbins didn’t want, so she put him in private school. That didn’t work out and Dobbins ended up home-schooling her son for several months. She entered the public school lottery again for first grade and got the same school — Cobb Elementary. This time she gave it a chance and her son loves it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Now we know, look for the schools that have what you need, rather than the top 10 schools on everybody’s list,” Dobbins. She admits in her initial kindergarten search she was close-minded about what a “good” school looks like, but her experience at Cobb has taught her that lots of schools can offer a good fit. But she hasn’t changed her mind about one thing — she still hates the lottery system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a burden on every parent, and I’m amazed that more kids don’t go unenrolled,” Dobbins said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other parents had a variety of opinions about the lottery. Some didn’t think it was that big a deal — just turn the forms in on time. Others, similar to Raquel Knighten, know that where they live gives them a preference in the lottery, and were weighing choices carefully.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mink Lincoln-Price has been very worried about how her African-American sons will fare in school. She’s watches the news and sees the reports about how schools are failing black boys. When she visits schools, she’s looking to make sure the leadership understands that this achievement gap is a problem. She wants to hear that principals are actively addressing implicit bias on campus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For me it’s really about the academics,” Lincoln-Price said. “Of course I would like them to go to a school where they could have friends that look like them, but of course you can make friends with anybody. 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All schools get state funding based on the number of students enrolled, so schools with fewer students get less money. Of course, it’s not as simple as that. California’s \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/02/08/will-new-funding-formula-move-schools-towards-education-equity/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">funding formula\u003c/a> portions out more money for schools that serve low-income children, English language learners, and foster kids. But at schools with wealthier parents, it’s not uncommon for the Parent Teacher Association (PTA) to \u003ca href=\"http://sfpublicpress.org/news/2014-02/how-budget-cuts-and-PTA-fundraising-undermined-equity-in-san-francisco-public-schools\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">raise hundreds of thousands of dollars\u003c/a> to support the school.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Is the lottery making schools more diverse?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Despite the district’s attempt to give families living in parts of the city with low test scores a preference in the school lottery, parents’ choices seem to be patterned. That could be due to the logistics of getting a child to school, but it also could be a sign some parents lack information about the various options around the city. The district makes an attempt to reach out widely with information and nonprofit groups do as well, but often parents get information from one another.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bilingual and Spanish-immersion programs often draw Latino families who want to be able to help their kids with homework and be able to confer with the teacher. Many parents want a school that’s close to home in case there are emergencies. And few elementary school parents are eager to put their 5-year-olds on Muni buses to attend school across town. The \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/transportation/school-bus-schedules.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">district runs several buses\u003c/a> on routes designed to give students more access, but seats are limited.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/01/10/s-f-s-kindergarten-lottery-do-parents-tricks-work/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">KQED’s analysis of 2017-2018 kindergarten assignment data \u003c/a>shows that almost 60 percent of students attend a school out of their ZIP code — so there’s a lot of moving around. But those numbers varied greatly by geography. For example, 75 percent of kids living in the Outer Richmond stayed there for school, while 87 percent of kids in the Bayview left their ZIP code. And even when students leave their ZIP code, they may not be going far.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re not all going across town,” said O’Keeffe. “In many cases it’s just kind of the next few neighborhoods that they’re going to school to, like the Excelsior, or Vis Valley, the Mission, stuff like that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ultimately, although San Francisco’s choice system does give some kids a way out of their neighborhoods, it isn’t doing a great job of desegregating the district’s schools overall. Choice patterns are just as segregated as housing patterns.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Choice is complex and it is time-consuming and it does create angst and it’s not currently creating diversity,” O’Keeffe said. “I do think, though, that student assignment alone will never solve for this.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, she says the district is committed to trying. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Update: On Sept. 25, 2018, three school board members brought forward a resolution calling for the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11693522/two-s-f-school-board-commissioners-to-introduce-resolution-ending-lottery-system\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">end of the current student assignment system\u003c/a>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re living in San Francisco without kids, you may never have thought about the public schools before. But for parents, the San Francisco school lottery looms large. This complex and confusing process has driven parents out of the city. And some of those who stay have horror stories.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To get their child into a public kindergarten, parents enter a lottery that blends their choices with a mysterious algorithm designed to give every child the opportunity to attend the school of their choice. A kindergartner here could be assigned to any of the city’s 72 elementary schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch2>How the San Francisco School Lottery Works, And How It Doesn’t\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11641324\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/school-lottery.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"223\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco’s complicated school lottery system offers opportunity that isn’t always realized. \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2018/01/11/how-the-san-francisco-school-lottery-works-and-how-it-doesnt-2/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Read the story.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Entering the lottery starts with a lot of handwringing: Parents have to rank their favorite schools and submit the list in person at the district office. With this much at stake, there are a lot of theories on how parents can build these lists to get their kids into their top-choice schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED News analyzed how those parental choices impacted school assignment and enrollment, using anonymized data provided by the San Francisco Unified School District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You can \u003ca href=\"http://download.biglocalnews.org/20171103_KQED_KinderAssignmentData_201718.xlsx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">download the data\u003c/a> yourself. Please let us know what you find at \u003ca href=\"mailto:baycurious@kqed.org\">baycurious@kqed.org\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Good News: The Odds Are in Your Favor\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>We found that the majority of students, 61 percent, enrolled in their first-choice school, 77 percent enrolled in one of their top five choices and 80 percent in one of their top 10 choices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many parents said that one of their big fears was being assigned a random school, one they didn’t list. However, only 3 percent of children received a random school in the first round of assignments.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Gaming Techniques\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>While 80 percent is a pretty good chance, it does mean that a fifth of students will not get one of their top 10 choices. There’s a lot of advice out there from parents, organizations and the school district on how to ensure your kid will get into the right school for you. We analyzed some of the most popular techniques to see how they stood up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Note: Each school year is different, and the school district does sometimes tweak the algorithm based on school board policies. So these findings apply to students who applied for the 2017-2018 school year.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Listing a Lot of Schools\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s a lot of playground chatter, as well as online blogs, saying that listing a lot of schools is one way to success. The vast majority of people list 10 schools or less, about 75 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, some people listed far more schools than 10. Several even listed more schools than are available to attend, up to 92. But we found this system doesn’t necessarily improve the odds of enrolling in one of your top-choice schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We found that, of people who listed more than 10 schools, 39 percent received their first choice, 62 percent received one of their top five choices and 67 percent received one of their top 10 choices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Laurel Gaddie’s son, Kelvin, goes to Sanchez Elementary School; her daughter will be entering the lottery this year. When applying to kindergarten for Kelvin, Gaddie listed a lot of schools based on advice from parent blogs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I first looked at our list of 17 [schools] I thought, this is absurd, but hopefully it will result in us getting our top choice. It didn’t,” Gaddie says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED asked the San Francisco Unified School District about our findings. However, it did not respond to our requests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Listing the Same School Multiple Times\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We also found that many parents listed the same school several times in their lottery applications. However, this technique did not appear to have any significant impact either way on how likely those students were to enroll in their top choices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Listing Schools for Swapping\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before everyone receives their first-round school assignment, the algorithm “swaps” schools. Basically, the algorithm looks out across all the tentatively assigned students to see if any two could both receive a higher ranked choice if they swapped places. Then the algorithm transfers the two assignments, so Student A gets Student B’s assignment and vice versa. The district says \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/assets/sfusd-staff/enroll/files/Presentation_Dec_7_2017_reduced_size.pdf\">10 percent of first-round assignments were affected\u003c/a> by the swapping mechanism in 2017-18.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This has led some parents to list schools that they think other parents may want in hopes that, during the swapping phase, they could get one of their higher choices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The strategy is, you fill out your top 10 schools and then you put all the other schools, even if of course you’re not going to go there,” said Jenny Williams, a parent who just went through the school assignment process. “You get the extra piece of paper and you put them all on there. Every school — which is ridiculous.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams didn’t use this strategy, but she heard plenty about it from other parents as she went through the process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED could not tell from the data provided whether this technique is effective. However, the school district is considering dropping the swapping mechanism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re concerned that it’s complicated and difficult to understand, and that it encourages families to list schools they don’t want as a strategy to get a choice,” says Orla O’Keeffe, executive director of policy and operations for the SFUSD.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Neighborhood Schools\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One factor we know the algorithm considers is whether the child lives in the school’s attendance area. This has left parents wondering where they should rank the schools closest to them. The data we received does not show how requests are weighted by the system. However, a majority of students enrolled in schools out of their ZIP codes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We did find that some ZIP codes seem harder to leave than others. Students in areas like the Outer Richmond are more likely to attend schools in their ZIP codes.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Most Requested Schools\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The top 10 most requested schools, in order:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Clarendon Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>West Portal Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Grattan Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Rooftop Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Lawton Alternative School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sunset Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>George Peabody Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Claire B. Lilienthal Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Alvarado Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Jefferson Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch3>School by School\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Below you can select different schools to see how they compare in terms of applicants and enrollees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About 4,611 children entered the 2017-2018 San Francisco Unified School District kindergarten lottery. 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However, only 3 percent of children received a random school in the first round of assignments.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Gaming Techniques\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>While 80 percent is a pretty good chance, it does mean that a fifth of students will not get one of their top 10 choices. There’s a lot of advice out there from parents, organizations and the school district on how to ensure your kid will get into the right school for you. We analyzed some of the most popular techniques to see how they stood up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Note: Each school year is different, and the school district does sometimes tweak the algorithm based on school board policies. So these findings apply to students who applied for the 2017-2018 school year.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Listing a Lot of Schools\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s a lot of playground chatter, as well as online blogs, saying that listing a lot of schools is one way to success. The vast majority of people list 10 schools or less, about 75 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, some people listed far more schools than 10. Several even listed more schools than are available to attend, up to 92. But we found this system doesn’t necessarily improve the odds of enrolling in one of your top-choice schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We found that, of people who listed more than 10 schools, 39 percent received their first choice, 62 percent received one of their top five choices and 67 percent received one of their top 10 choices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Laurel Gaddie’s son, Kelvin, goes to Sanchez Elementary School; her daughter will be entering the lottery this year. When applying to kindergarten for Kelvin, Gaddie listed a lot of schools based on advice from parent blogs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I first looked at our list of 17 [schools] I thought, this is absurd, but hopefully it will result in us getting our top choice. It didn’t,” Gaddie says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED asked the San Francisco Unified School District about our findings. However, it did not respond to our requests.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Listing the Same School Multiple Times\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We also found that many parents listed the same school several times in their lottery applications. However, this technique did not appear to have any significant impact either way on how likely those students were to enroll in their top choices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Listing Schools for Swapping\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before everyone receives their first-round school assignment, the algorithm “swaps” schools. Basically, the algorithm looks out across all the tentatively assigned students to see if any two could both receive a higher ranked choice if they swapped places. Then the algorithm transfers the two assignments, so Student A gets Student B’s assignment and vice versa. The district says \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfusd.edu/en/assets/sfusd-staff/enroll/files/Presentation_Dec_7_2017_reduced_size.pdf\">10 percent of first-round assignments were affected\u003c/a> by the swapping mechanism in 2017-18.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This has led some parents to list schools that they think other parents may want in hopes that, during the swapping phase, they could get one of their higher choices.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The strategy is, you fill out your top 10 schools and then you put all the other schools, even if of course you’re not going to go there,” said Jenny Williams, a parent who just went through the school assignment process. “You get the extra piece of paper and you put them all on there. Every school — which is ridiculous.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Williams didn’t use this strategy, but she heard plenty about it from other parents as she went through the process.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED could not tell from the data provided whether this technique is effective. However, the school district is considering dropping the swapping mechanism.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re concerned that it’s complicated and difficult to understand, and that it encourages families to list schools they don’t want as a strategy to get a choice,” says Orla O’Keeffe, executive director of policy and operations for the SFUSD.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Neighborhood Schools\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One factor we know the algorithm considers is whether the child lives in the school’s attendance area. This has left parents wondering where they should rank the schools closest to them. The data we received does not show how requests are weighted by the system. However, a majority of students enrolled in schools out of their ZIP codes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We did find that some ZIP codes seem harder to leave than others. Students in areas like the Outer Richmond are more likely to attend schools in their ZIP codes.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Most Requested Schools\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>The top 10 most requested schools, in order:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Clarendon Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>West Portal Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Grattan Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Rooftop Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Lawton Alternative School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sunset Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>George Peabody Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Claire B. Lilienthal Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Alvarado Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Jefferson Elementary School\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch3>School by School\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Below you can select different schools to see how they compare in terms of applicants and enrollees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About 4,611 children entered the 2017-2018 San Francisco Unified School District kindergarten lottery. Parents can select multiple schools, and they made more than 45,000 unique choices. So, while some of the application numbers may seem incredibly high, keep in mind that there are a lot of applications, compared to enrollments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Also, not every child who enters the lottery enrolls. 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"content": "\u003cp>Suburbia: The very word conjures up rows and rows of cookie-cutter houses, laid out on a vast, grim grid of blah. At the time they were built, after World War II, the nation was desperate for new housing. But \u003ci>some\u003c/i> of those homes are considered architectural treasures today, especially if they were made by one\u003ci> particular\u003c/i> Silicon Valley real estate developer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Birth of the Eichler\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Let’s travel back in time to the 1940s, when a Bay Area businessman named Joseph Eichler rented the \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/article/bazett-house-hillsborough\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bazett house\u003c/a> in Hillsborough, designed by rock star architect Frank Lloyd Wright. Eichler fell in love. He hired the Wright-loving architecture firm of Anshen and Allen to make him something along the same lines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then Eichler started thinking about making homes for other people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635825\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635825\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"The Bazett house of Hillsborough was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. After renting it, Joseph Eichler was so impressed, he launchd into a new career as a design-savvy tract house developer.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-520x390.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Bazett house of Hillsborough was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. After renting it, Joseph Eichler was so impressed, he launchd into a new career as a design-savvy tract house developer. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of David Weinstein)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“He was looking around for something to do. A lot of people at that time from other professions were going into homebuilding,” says David Weinstein, who writes for the \u003ca href=\"https://www.eichlernetwork.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Eichler Network\u003c/a>, a website for Eichler enthusiasts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eichler’s vision developed gradually, and the homes he built initially in Sunnyvale weren’t much to look at.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“His very first subdivisions don’t look like Eichlers at all,” Weinstein says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But then Robert Anshen convinced Eichler to use architects and designers for his \u003ci>tract houses\u003c/i>, too — something that \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/blog/dave-weinstein/why-joe-wouldn%E2%80%99t-%E2%80%98scrap-architects%E2%80%99\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">most developers\u003c/a> were not doing at the time. That’s what pushed Eichler homes onto a different plane of development: the people he had working for him. If that makes him sound a little like Steve Jobs at Apple, well, that would be an apt comparison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635769\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635769\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-800x507.png\" alt=\"Ads like this one enticed young families to scrimp and save for something better than your average tract house.\" width=\"800\" height=\"507\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-800x507.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-160x101.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-1020x646.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-1180x748.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-960x608.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-240x152.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-375x238.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-520x329.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM.png 1269w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ads like this one enticed young families to scrimp and save for something better than your average tract house. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Page & Turnbull)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“They were always innovating, coming up with new ways for space arrangement. It’s really the spirit of Silicon Valley. These were experimental houses,” says Weinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Between 1949 and 1974, when Eichler died, his group built roughly 11,000 homes in California, mostly in the San Francisco Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You’ll find them north, east and south of San Francisco, but Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: \u003ca href=\"http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/civicax/filebank/documents/56865\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more than 2,700 houses\u003c/a>, packing the tightly curving streets and cul-de-sacs Eichler preferred because they encourage people to hang out with each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two of Palo Alto’s Eichler neighborhoods, Green Gables and Greenmeadow, are historic districts listed in the National Register of Historic Places.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635763\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 500px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11635763\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c.jpg\" alt=\"As blogger Stephen Coles points out on The Midcentury Modernist, when the Pixar team wanted an mid-century modern home for Bob and Helen Parr in “The Incredibles,” they opted for an Eichler. \" width=\"500\" height=\"210\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c.jpg 500w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-160x67.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-240x101.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-375x158.jpg 375w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">As blogger Stephen Coles points out on The Mid-Century Modernist, when the Pixar team wanted a midcentury modern home for Bob and Helen Parr in “The Incredibles,” they opted for an Eichler. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Pixar Animation Studios)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>The Eichler Look\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>From the outside, Eichlers appear modest, crisp, angular. But step inside, and your attention is drawn to floor-to-ceiling windows that look out onto the backyard, taking full advantage of California’s year-round sunshine. You know that phrase “indoor/outdoor living”? This is that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The openness, the airiness, looking up from a window and seeing the sky when you’re in the house,” says Bonnie Borton, an Eichler owner who moved in right after the neighborhood in Palo Alto was built in 1959-1960.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635765\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635765\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"The exterior of Edita Donnelly's remodeled Eichler home in Palo Alto.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The exterior of Edita Donnelly’s remodeled Eichler home in Palo Alto. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If your parents — or grandparents — subscribed to \u003ca href=\"https://www.sunset.com/home-garden/idea-houses\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003ci>Sunset Magazine\u003c/i>\u003c/a>, you’ve seen an Eichler, because for more than two decades, Sunset’s vision of the California Dream House looked like an Eichler: open floor plans, clean lines stretching in every direction. It’s a style that has come to be known as midcentury modern.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even today, when people buy Eichlers and remodel them, they often use Sunset for inspiration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11639898\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11639898\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-800x572.jpg\" alt='Eichler homes makes the most of \"indoor/outdoor living.\"' width=\"800\" height=\"572\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-800x572.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-160x114.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1020x730.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1920x1374.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1180x844.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-960x687.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-240x172.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-375x268.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-520x372.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eichler homes makes the most of “indoor/outdoor living.” \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We replaced everything,” says Edita Donnelly of Palo Alto, who wanted her Eichler to look even more “Eichler-esque” if you will, than it was when she bought it. That is to say, she did things like raise the ceiling in the living room, and she added sliding glass doors to every room in the house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We designed it so that every room has access to the outside, and I think that idea came from a \u003ci>Sunset Magazine\u003c/i> model house for me,” Donnelly says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635766\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635766\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Floor-to-ceiling windows in Edita Donnelly's Palo Alto living room draw the eye to the backyard. This is what "indoor/outdoor" living means.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Floor-to-ceiling windows in Edita Donnelly’s Palo Alto living room draw the eye to the backyard. This is what “indoor/outdoor” living means. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>They Used to Be Affordable\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>When Bonnie Borton bought her Eichler in 1960, she paid $19,500. Let that sink in for a moment. Today in Palo Alto, one of these homes can sell for up to $3 million. Eichlers in less affluent cities aren’t quite as pricey, but it’s all a far cry from the days when these homes were sold to people in the middle class.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Lovely side note: Eichler also had a nondiscrimination policy and insisted on selling to people of all ethnicities and religions — a progressive attitude that wasn’t matched by many other tract home developers at the time.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in even wealthier neighborhoods, like Atherton and Hillsborough, some people have bought the property and \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/article/slipping-away\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">bulldozed the Eichler\u003c/a> to make way for something bigger, newer, \u003ci>whatever\u003c/i>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So in recent years, a number of Eichler-rich neighborhoods in Silicon Valley have developed \u003ca href=\"http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/gov/depts/pln/special_projects/eichler_neighborhood_design_guidelines_.asp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">design guidelines\u003c/a>, zoning overlays or even historic districts in an attempt to keep their neighborhoods aesthetically cohesive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635764\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635764\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-800x529.png\" alt=\"Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: more than 2,700 homes.\" width=\"800\" height=\"529\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-800x529.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-160x106.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-1020x675.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-1180x781.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-960x635.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-240x159.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-375x248.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-520x344.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM.png 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: more than 2,700 homes. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Page & Turnbull)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“People who like the Eichlers aren’t saying the wealthy shouldn’t have big houses. They should just do it someplace else,” Weinstein says drolly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rebecca Thompson, another Palo Alto Eichler owner, explains that something as ostensibly simple as adding another story can negatively affects the neighbors, even if tastefully done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousbug]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because our homes have these floor-to-ceiling windows in the primary living areas, in the master bedroom, in the kitchen, in the living room. Most people don’t have blinds,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most Eichlers are only one story. If you have to install drapes or blinds to block the neighbor’s view, you lose that “indoor/outdoor” space you bought your house to enjoy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the flip side, you might be thinking: Why would someone who can \u003ci>afford\u003c/i> to buy an Eichler in Silicon Valley these days \u003ci>want\u003c/i> to buy one? After all, they’re modestly sized, aging tract homes — some of which now come with zoning restrictions. I asked Thompson, who moved from Seattle to Palo Alto with her husband about eight years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635770\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11635770 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Indoor atriums like this one in the home of Dorene Loew and Jennifer Brown of Palo function as a second living room, outdoors. Californians may take it for granted, but for those who move here, this is jaw-droppingly desirable.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Indoor atriums like this one in the home of Dorene Loew and Jennifer Brown of Palo function as a second living room, outdoors. Californians may take it for granted, but for those who move here, this is jaw-droppingly desirable. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Most people, if they move here from elsewhere, they downsize, because the cost of living is so much more expensive. So we downsized into a smaller house than we had in Seattle. However, we gained access to a large atrium, a front yard, a backyard that we could use for most months out of the year. So we really don’t miss the extra space,” Thompson says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over the years, Thompson adds, it’s the neighbors they’ve come to appreciate most: the block parties, book clubs, not to mention shared Rolodexes of plumbers, electricians and interior decorators who specialize in Eichlers. “This is something that doesn’t exist as much anymore in this country. You don’t just buy a home. You’re buying into a community!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To be fair, a lot of tract developers thought they were building communities back in the 1940s, ’50s and ’60s. What’s different about Eichlers? Distinctive design and that definite sense, if you live in one, that you’re living the California Dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Special thanks to Palo Alto real estate agent \u003ca href=\"http://Desireedocktor.com\">Desiree Docktor\u003c/a> for her invaluable help in producing this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635771\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635771\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"If you sense a Japanese aesthetic to Eichlers, you're not imagining things. Joseph Eichler was originally inspired by a rock star American architect who loved Japanese art and design, Frank Lloyd Wright.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">If you sense a Japanese aesthetic to Eichlers, you’re not imagining things. Joseph Eichler was originally inspired by a rock star American architect who loved Japanese art and design, Frank Lloyd Wright. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Suburbia: The very word conjures up rows and rows of cookie-cutter houses, laid out on a vast, grim grid of blah. At the time they were built, after World War II, the nation was desperate for new housing. But \u003ci>some\u003c/i> of those homes are considered architectural treasures today, especially if they were made by one\u003ci> particular\u003c/i> Silicon Valley real estate developer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Birth of the Eichler\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Let’s travel back in time to the 1940s, when a Bay Area businessman named Joseph Eichler rented the \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/article/bazett-house-hillsborough\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bazett house\u003c/a> in Hillsborough, designed by rock star architect Frank Lloyd Wright. Eichler fell in love. He hired the Wright-loving architecture firm of Anshen and Allen to make him something along the same lines.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then Eichler started thinking about making homes for other people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635825\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635825\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"The Bazett house of Hillsborough was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. After renting it, Joseph Eichler was so impressed, he launchd into a new career as a design-savvy tract house developer.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28401_Bazett-house-1-qut-520x390.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Bazett house of Hillsborough was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. After renting it, Joseph Eichler was so impressed, he launchd into a new career as a design-savvy tract house developer. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of David Weinstein)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“He was looking around for something to do. A lot of people at that time from other professions were going into homebuilding,” says David Weinstein, who writes for the \u003ca href=\"https://www.eichlernetwork.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Eichler Network\u003c/a>, a website for Eichler enthusiasts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Eichler’s vision developed gradually, and the homes he built initially in Sunnyvale weren’t much to look at.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“His very first subdivisions don’t look like Eichlers at all,” Weinstein says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But then Robert Anshen convinced Eichler to use architects and designers for his \u003ci>tract houses\u003c/i>, too — something that \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/blog/dave-weinstein/why-joe-wouldn%E2%80%99t-%E2%80%98scrap-architects%E2%80%99\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">most developers\u003c/a> were not doing at the time. That’s what pushed Eichler homes onto a different plane of development: the people he had working for him. If that makes him sound a little like Steve Jobs at Apple, well, that would be an apt comparison.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635769\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635769\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-800x507.png\" alt=\"Ads like this one enticed young families to scrimp and save for something better than your average tract house.\" width=\"800\" height=\"507\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-800x507.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-160x101.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-1020x646.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-1180x748.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-960x608.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-240x152.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-375x238.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM-520x329.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-7.19.28-AM.png 1269w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ads like this one enticed young families to scrimp and save for something better than your average tract house. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Page & Turnbull)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“They were always innovating, coming up with new ways for space arrangement. It’s really the spirit of Silicon Valley. These were experimental houses,” says Weinstein.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Between 1949 and 1974, when Eichler died, his group built roughly 11,000 homes in California, mostly in the San Francisco Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You’ll find them north, east and south of San Francisco, but Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: \u003ca href=\"http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/civicax/filebank/documents/56865\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more than 2,700 houses\u003c/a>, packing the tightly curving streets and cul-de-sacs Eichler preferred because they encourage people to hang out with each other.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Two of Palo Alto’s Eichler neighborhoods, Green Gables and Greenmeadow, are historic districts listed in the National Register of Historic Places.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635763\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 500px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11635763\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c.jpg\" alt=\"As blogger Stephen Coles points out on The Midcentury Modernist, when the Pixar team wanted an mid-century modern home for Bob and Helen Parr in “The Incredibles,” they opted for an Eichler. \" width=\"500\" height=\"210\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c.jpg 500w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-160x67.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-240x101.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/6a00d8341c796653ef01156ed30e77970c-375x158.jpg 375w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">As blogger Stephen Coles points out on The Mid-Century Modernist, when the Pixar team wanted a midcentury modern home for Bob and Helen Parr in “The Incredibles,” they opted for an Eichler. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Pixar Animation Studios)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>The Eichler Look\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>From the outside, Eichlers appear modest, crisp, angular. But step inside, and your attention is drawn to floor-to-ceiling windows that look out onto the backyard, taking full advantage of California’s year-round sunshine. You know that phrase “indoor/outdoor living”? This is that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The openness, the airiness, looking up from a window and seeing the sky when you’re in the house,” says Bonnie Borton, an Eichler owner who moved in right after the neighborhood in Palo Alto was built in 1959-1960.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635765\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635765\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"The exterior of Edita Donnelly's remodeled Eichler home in Palo Alto.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28399_Photo-Sep-06-11-12-12-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The exterior of Edita Donnelly’s remodeled Eichler home in Palo Alto. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If your parents — or grandparents — subscribed to \u003ca href=\"https://www.sunset.com/home-garden/idea-houses\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003ci>Sunset Magazine\u003c/i>\u003c/a>, you’ve seen an Eichler, because for more than two decades, Sunset’s vision of the California Dream House looked like an Eichler: open floor plans, clean lines stretching in every direction. It’s a style that has come to be known as midcentury modern.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even today, when people buy Eichlers and remodel them, they often use Sunset for inspiration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11639898\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11639898\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-800x572.jpg\" alt='Eichler homes makes the most of \"indoor/outdoor living.\"' width=\"800\" height=\"572\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-800x572.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-160x114.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1020x730.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1920x1374.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-1180x844.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-960x687.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-240x172.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-375x268.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2018/01/Photo-Oct-04-2-11-25-PM-520x372.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eichler homes makes the most of “indoor/outdoor living.” \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We replaced everything,” says Edita Donnelly of Palo Alto, who wanted her Eichler to look even more “Eichler-esque” if you will, than it was when she bought it. That is to say, she did things like raise the ceiling in the living room, and she added sliding glass doors to every room in the house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We designed it so that every room has access to the outside, and I think that idea came from a \u003ci>Sunset Magazine\u003c/i> model house for me,” Donnelly says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635766\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635766\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Floor-to-ceiling windows in Edita Donnelly's Palo Alto living room draw the eye to the backyard. This is what "indoor/outdoor" living means.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28398_Photo-Sep-06-11-14-28-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Floor-to-ceiling windows in Edita Donnelly’s Palo Alto living room draw the eye to the backyard. This is what “indoor/outdoor” living means. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>They Used to Be Affordable\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>When Bonnie Borton bought her Eichler in 1960, she paid $19,500. Let that sink in for a moment. Today in Palo Alto, one of these homes can sell for up to $3 million. Eichlers in less affluent cities aren’t quite as pricey, but it’s all a far cry from the days when these homes were sold to people in the middle class.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>(Lovely side note: Eichler also had a nondiscrimination policy and insisted on selling to people of all ethnicities and religions — a progressive attitude that wasn’t matched by many other tract home developers at the time.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And in even wealthier neighborhoods, like Atherton and Hillsborough, some people have bought the property and \u003ca href=\"http://www.eichlernetwork.com/article/slipping-away\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">bulldozed the Eichler\u003c/a> to make way for something bigger, newer, \u003ci>whatever\u003c/i>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So in recent years, a number of Eichler-rich neighborhoods in Silicon Valley have developed \u003ca href=\"http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/gov/depts/pln/special_projects/eichler_neighborhood_design_guidelines_.asp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">design guidelines\u003c/a>, zoning overlays or even historic districts in an attempt to keep their neighborhoods aesthetically cohesive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635764\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635764\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-800x529.png\" alt=\"Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: more than 2,700 homes.\" width=\"800\" height=\"529\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-800x529.png 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-160x106.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-1020x675.png 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-1180x781.png 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-960x635.png 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-240x159.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-375x248.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM-520x344.png 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/Screen-Shot-2017-12-08-at-6.23.20-AM.png 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Palo Alto is home to more Eichlers than anyplace else: more than 2,700 homes. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Page & Turnbull)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“People who like the Eichlers aren’t saying the wealthy shouldn’t have big houses. They should just do it someplace else,” Weinstein says drolly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rebecca Thompson, another Palo Alto Eichler owner, explains that something as ostensibly simple as adding another story can negatively affects the neighbors, even if tastefully done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n What do you wonder about the Bay Area, its culture or people that you want KQED to investigate?\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Ask Bay Curious.\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Because our homes have these floor-to-ceiling windows in the primary living areas, in the master bedroom, in the kitchen, in the living room. Most people don’t have blinds,” she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most Eichlers are only one story. If you have to install drapes or blinds to block the neighbor’s view, you lose that “indoor/outdoor” space you bought your house to enjoy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the flip side, you might be thinking: Why would someone who can \u003ci>afford\u003c/i> to buy an Eichler in Silicon Valley these days \u003ci>want\u003c/i> to buy one? After all, they’re modestly sized, aging tract homes — some of which now come with zoning restrictions. I asked Thompson, who moved from Seattle to Palo Alto with her husband about eight years ago.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635770\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11635770 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Indoor atriums like this one in the home of Dorene Loew and Jennifer Brown of Palo function as a second living room, outdoors. Californians may take it for granted, but for those who move here, this is jaw-droppingly desirable.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28396_Photo-Oct-04-2-14-22-PM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Indoor atriums like this one in the home of Dorene Loew and Jennifer Brown of Palo function as a second living room, outdoors. Californians may take it for granted, but for those who move here, this is jaw-droppingly desirable. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Most people, if they move here from elsewhere, they downsize, because the cost of living is so much more expensive. So we downsized into a smaller house than we had in Seattle. However, we gained access to a large atrium, a front yard, a backyard that we could use for most months out of the year. So we really don’t miss the extra space,” Thompson says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But over the years, Thompson adds, it’s the neighbors they’ve come to appreciate most: the block parties, book clubs, not to mention shared Rolodexes of plumbers, electricians and interior decorators who specialize in Eichlers. “This is something that doesn’t exist as much anymore in this country. You don’t just buy a home. You’re buying into a community!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To be fair, a lot of tract developers thought they were building communities back in the 1940s, ’50s and ’60s. What’s different about Eichlers? Distinctive design and that definite sense, if you live in one, that you’re living the California Dream.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Special thanks to Palo Alto real estate agent \u003ca href=\"http://Desireedocktor.com\">Desiree Docktor\u003c/a> for her invaluable help in producing this story.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11635771\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11635771\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"If you sense a Japanese aesthetic to Eichlers, you're not imagining things. Joseph Eichler was originally inspired by a rock star American architect who loved Japanese art and design, Frank Lloyd Wright.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28397_Photo-Sep-06-11-13-53-AM-2-qut-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">If you sense a Japanese aesthetic to Eichlers, you’re not imagining things. Joseph Eichler was originally inspired by a rock star American architect who loved Japanese art and design, Frank Lloyd Wright. \u003ccite>(Rachael Myrow/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Adults can now legally buy recreational cannabis in California, but there’s no standard for how much marijuana you can have in your system and get behind the wheel. The law simply says you can’t drive while impaired. So is it possible to test if someone is too high to drive?\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meg Schwarzman used to bike through the intersection of Bancroft and Fulton in Berkeley almost every day. Then last February, she was in a crash that almost killed her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She had an 11-month-old baby at home, and she was being an especially careful biker. She was wearing a dayglo green jacket and a new helmet over her curly hair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwarzman says she reached the intersection, when a driver “ran over me from behind, trapping me under the car, and dragging me 60 feet across the intersection.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The driver was a medical cannabis user. He told police he had smoked shortly before getting in the car.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He actually was high enough he didn’t know he’d hit me,” says Schwarzman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638140\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638140\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-800x453.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-800x453.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-160x91.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-1020x577.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-1180x667.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-960x543.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-240x136.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-375x212.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-520x294.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Meg Schwarzman stands at the Berkeley intersection where she was hit by a medical cannabis user, which now features more protections for bikers. \u003ccite>(Eli Wirtschafter/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Firefighters pulled her out from under the car just in time to save her life. She had 20 broken ribs, two collapsed lungs, a lacerated liver, and fractures in her pelvis and her skull.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’d called in the fatal accident investigation team,” she recounts. “They didn’t expect me to survive.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwarzman recovered completely, apart from some serious scars. But she’s worried that as marijuana is legalized, there will be more stoned drivers on the road.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have some deterrence with alcohol in that we have breathalyzer tests and legal consequences,” says Schwarzman. “There are legal consequences for driving high also, but there aren’t good tests for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why a Blood Test for Marijuana Isn’t so Simple\u003c/h2>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>More Answers About Legal Weed\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11638148\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-960x640.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Where will recreational marijuana be available on Jan. 1?\u003c/strong> Not all cities have decided to allow adult-use marijuana in their backyard, and even those that have may not have all the necessary licensing and permitting ready on Jan. 1. See where and when you’ll be able to buy in our \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/everything-you-want-to-know-about-legal-weed-in-california-2/#Jan1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">special pot show.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>In California, the consequences for driving drunk and driving high are the same. But while there’s a clear blood limit for alcohol, there’s no such standard for marijuana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Marijuana is very different than alcohol,” says Jolene Forman, a lawyer with the Drug Policy Alliance. With alcohol, impairment links strongly with the amount you’ve had to drink, depending on your weight and gender.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When you drink a glass of wine, the alcohol shows up in your blood and your brain at the same time. As its effects wear off, alcohol disappears from your brain, and your blood, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Marijuana works totally differently, where it can stay in your blood for days, and even weeks, after you’ve consumed it,” says Forman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition, THC, the psychoactive chemical in marijuana, can affect people very differently. So measuring THC has not been proved to be a reliable measurement of someone’s driving ability.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>California’s Subjective DUI Laws\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>On average, marijuana does impair driving skills for most people, especially 20 to 40 minutes after smoking. But measuring THC isn’t a good way to tell how much worse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lack of scientific evidence didn’t stop Washington and Colorado from setting a THC limit for drivers. But California went the other way. Here, there’s no numerical limit on THC.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, the law says you can’t drive under the influence of any drug — period. It’s also illegal to consume cannabis while driving or riding in a vehicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignleft\">\n\u003ch3>More Answers About Legal Weed\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638102\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-800x522.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"522\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-800x522.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-160x104.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-1020x666.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-1180x770.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-960x627.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-240x157.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-375x245.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-520x339.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>What changes for people with medical marijuana cards?\u003c/strong> Will these cards become obsolete now that legal marijuana sales aren’t just for medicinal use? Short answer: No. Learn more in our \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/everything-you-want-to-know-about-legal-weed-in-california-2/#MedicalCard\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">special pot show.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>In California, a marijuana DUI conviction depends on things an officer observes, such as the smell of marijuana in the car, or a physical sobriety test like those given to drivers who may be drunk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some officers are trained to identify specific signs of marijuana use, like dilated pupils. Sgt. Jennifer Tate, a drug recognition expert with the Berkeley Police Department, says the physical tests have gotten better over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We don’t need a better test,” says Tate. “If people are impaired, we can tell.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Andrea Roth, a law professor at UC Berkeley, says those physical tests are relatively subjective, relying on the judgment of the officer. Because of that, she says there’s potential for racial bias in how they’re enforced. Cops already pull over black and Latino drivers at higher rates. Roth says an objective test could help prevent innocent drivers from getting DUIs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s less risk of racial bias at the point of determining if someone is intoxicated if there’s a machine measurable result,” says Roth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As marijuana becomes legal, there’s growing demand for an objective test that really works.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The holy grail will be to find … some scientifically robust way to determine level of intoxication,” says Roth.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>More Answers About Legal Weed\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28261_GettyImages-805212194-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634659\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28261_GettyImages-805212194-qut-800x438.jpg\" width=\"800\" height=\"438\">\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Where will the taxes go?\u003c/strong> Money was a big incentive for the state to legalize recreational marijuana, with state analysts saying it could add up to $1 billion annually to state coffers. Find out where that money will go in our \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/everything-you-want-to-know-about-legal-weed-in-california-2/#Taxes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">special pot show.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003ch2>An Oakland-Grown Marijuana Breathalyzer\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Several companies are chasing after that holy grail. One of them, called Hound Labs, is headquartered in downtown Oakland, right in the heart of the new cannabis economy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mike Lynn is a trained ER doctor turned entrepreneur. But his company, unlike some of its neighbors, doesn’t make cannabis chocolates or THC lollipops. Lynn is co-founder and CEO of Hound Labs, which makes a breathalyzer for marijuana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lynn says the breathalyzer actually measures both THC and alcohol. The two substances together have a stronger effect on drivers than either one alone.\u003cbr>\n[baycuriousbug]\u003cbr>\nThe device looks a bit like a black plastic tape dispenser, with a tube sticking out. If you blow through it at the right rate, it beeps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although THC lingers in blood for days or weeks, Lynn says THC disappears from breath after a few hours. Even in those hours right after smoking, THC in breath comes in tiny concentrations. It’s hard to detect, and there isn’t much research on it published yet. But Lynn says the Hound Labs device can measure it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lynn says “nobody really knows” why THC stays in breath only a few hours. But because of this short time span, users with THC in their breath “have used pot very, very recently and [are] much more likely to be impaired.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>More Answers About Legal Weed\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638103\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Will companies still drug test for marijuana?\u003c/strong> You might think that with recreational marijuana now legal, it would be treated like alcohol or nicotine by employers. Not quite. Learn how legal weed could affect your job in our \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/everything-you-want-to-know-about-legal-weed-in-california-2/#Jobs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">special pot show.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>So although the Hound Labs test doesn’t prove someone is truly impaired, Lynn says it could serve as evidence someone used cannabis recently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hound Labs hopes to sell the breathalyzer to police departments starting this year, including to some in the Bay Area and elsewhere in California. The company would not disclose which departments, citing confidentiality agreements. Lynn says his company is contacted by agencies from all over the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Everybody’s dealing with the same issue,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A marijuana breathalyzer could mean big business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hound Labs says it has raised about $14 million, including $8.1 million from the elite Silicon Valley fund Benchmark.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Yes, There’s an App For That\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Not everyone buys into the breathalyzer idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dale Gieringer, director of California NORML, says a breath test “will be no more effective than the ineffectual blood tests and urine tests and oral swab tests that they’ve got now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignleft\">\n\u003ch3>More Answers About Legal Weed\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638108\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-520x390.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Why does the law prohibit marijuana products with seafood?\u003c/strong> Cannabis-infused edibles might soon be legal, but you won’t be able to find weed in everything. Learn what foods can and can’t include cannabis in our \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/everything-you-want-to-know-about-legal-weed-in-california-2/#Seafood\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">special pot show.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Gieringer says the important thing in setting a DUI law is how risky someone’s behavior is. And marijuana, he says, just isn’t that big an increased risk — “less than the risk of having two other people in the car with you, not to mention the risk of being a driver under 25 or being a male driver.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Exactly how marijuana stacks up against those other risks is disputed by different studies. But most research shows marijuana having only a small effect on driving.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gieringer says for marijuana — or any drug — we need a way to measure if you’re really safe to drive, not just if there’s a chemical in your system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gieringer has an app in his pocket designed to do just that. It’s called “My Canary.” It asks him to remember a series of numbers, and then do a balancing test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638139\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638139\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-800x453.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-800x453.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-160x91.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-1020x577.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-1180x667.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-960x543.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-240x136.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-375x212.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-520x294.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dale Gieringer, the head of California NORML, uses a sobriety-testing app called My Canary. \u003ccite>(Eli Wirtschafter/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Gieringer is on a statewide Highway Patrol task force that will suggest policies for drug DUIs. He says apps like this one could give a more fair assessment of whether someone is impaired, no matter what they’ve used. Apps could help people measure their own impairment before they get on the road.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meg Schwarzman, who was hit by a stoned driver, says we need not just better testing, but also better public awareness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She says there has been such a “cultural shift” because of our growing acceptance of the benefits of medical marijuana, that we now “may be losing sight of some of the places that we actually have to be really cautious about it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>A version of this story originally aired on KALW’s “\u003ca href=\"http://kalw.org/post/no-uniform-test-marijuana-duis-legalization-nears#stream/0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Crosscurrents\u003c/a>.”\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Adults can now legally buy recreational cannabis in California, but there’s no standard for how much marijuana you can have in your system and get behind the wheel. The law simply says you can’t drive while impaired. So is it possible to test if someone is too high to drive?\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meg Schwarzman used to bike through the intersection of Bancroft and Fulton in Berkeley almost every day. Then last February, she was in a crash that almost killed her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She had an 11-month-old baby at home, and she was being an especially careful biker. She was wearing a dayglo green jacket and a new helmet over her curly hair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwarzman says she reached the intersection, when a driver “ran over me from behind, trapping me under the car, and dragging me 60 feet across the intersection.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The driver was a medical cannabis user. He told police he had smoked shortly before getting in the car.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He actually was high enough he didn’t know he’d hit me,” says Schwarzman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638140\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638140\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-800x453.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-800x453.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-160x91.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-1020x577.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-1180x667.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-960x543.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-240x136.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-375x212.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28662_imag3038-qut-520x294.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Meg Schwarzman stands at the Berkeley intersection where she was hit by a medical cannabis user, which now features more protections for bikers. \u003ccite>(Eli Wirtschafter/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Firefighters pulled her out from under the car just in time to save her life. She had 20 broken ribs, two collapsed lungs, a lacerated liver, and fractures in her pelvis and her skull.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’d called in the fatal accident investigation team,” she recounts. “They didn’t expect me to survive.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schwarzman recovered completely, apart from some serious scars. But she’s worried that as marijuana is legalized, there will be more stoned drivers on the road.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have some deterrence with alcohol in that we have breathalyzer tests and legal consequences,” says Schwarzman. “There are legal consequences for driving high also, but there aren’t good tests for it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why a Blood Test for Marijuana Isn’t so Simple\u003c/h2>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>More Answers About Legal Weed\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-11638148\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-960x640.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28657_GettyImages-91997121-qut-1-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Where will recreational marijuana be available on Jan. 1?\u003c/strong> Not all cities have decided to allow adult-use marijuana in their backyard, and even those that have may not have all the necessary licensing and permitting ready on Jan. 1. See where and when you’ll be able to buy in our \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/everything-you-want-to-know-about-legal-weed-in-california-2/#Jan1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">special pot show.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>In California, the consequences for driving drunk and driving high are the same. But while there’s a clear blood limit for alcohol, there’s no such standard for marijuana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Marijuana is very different than alcohol,” says Jolene Forman, a lawyer with the Drug Policy Alliance. With alcohol, impairment links strongly with the amount you’ve had to drink, depending on your weight and gender.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When you drink a glass of wine, the alcohol shows up in your blood and your brain at the same time. As its effects wear off, alcohol disappears from your brain, and your blood, too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Marijuana works totally differently, where it can stay in your blood for days, and even weeks, after you’ve consumed it,” says Forman.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In addition, THC, the psychoactive chemical in marijuana, can affect people very differently. So measuring THC has not been proved to be a reliable measurement of someone’s driving ability.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>California’s Subjective DUI Laws\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>On average, marijuana does impair driving skills for most people, especially 20 to 40 minutes after smoking. But measuring THC isn’t a good way to tell how much worse.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lack of scientific evidence didn’t stop Washington and Colorado from setting a THC limit for drivers. But California went the other way. Here, there’s no numerical limit on THC.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, the law says you can’t drive under the influence of any drug — period. It’s also illegal to consume cannabis while driving or riding in a vehicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignleft\">\n\u003ch3>More Answers About Legal Weed\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638102\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-800x522.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"522\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-800x522.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-160x104.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-1020x666.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-1180x770.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-960x627.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-240x157.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-375x245.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-520x339.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>What changes for people with medical marijuana cards?\u003c/strong> Will these cards become obsolete now that legal marijuana sales aren’t just for medicinal use? Short answer: No. Learn more in our \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/everything-you-want-to-know-about-legal-weed-in-california-2/#MedicalCard\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">special pot show.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>In California, a marijuana DUI conviction depends on things an officer observes, such as the smell of marijuana in the car, or a physical sobriety test like those given to drivers who may be drunk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some officers are trained to identify specific signs of marijuana use, like dilated pupils. Sgt. Jennifer Tate, a drug recognition expert with the Berkeley Police Department, says the physical tests have gotten better over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We don’t need a better test,” says Tate. “If people are impaired, we can tell.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Andrea Roth, a law professor at UC Berkeley, says those physical tests are relatively subjective, relying on the judgment of the officer. Because of that, she says there’s potential for racial bias in how they’re enforced. Cops already pull over black and Latino drivers at higher rates. Roth says an objective test could help prevent innocent drivers from getting DUIs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s less risk of racial bias at the point of determining if someone is intoxicated if there’s a machine measurable result,” says Roth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As marijuana becomes legal, there’s growing demand for an objective test that really works.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The holy grail will be to find … some scientifically robust way to determine level of intoxication,” says Roth.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>More Answers About Legal Weed\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28261_GettyImages-805212194-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634659\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28261_GettyImages-805212194-qut-800x438.jpg\" width=\"800\" height=\"438\">\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Where will the taxes go?\u003c/strong> Money was a big incentive for the state to legalize recreational marijuana, with state analysts saying it could add up to $1 billion annually to state coffers. Find out where that money will go in our \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/everything-you-want-to-know-about-legal-weed-in-california-2/#Taxes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">special pot show.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003ch2>An Oakland-Grown Marijuana Breathalyzer\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Several companies are chasing after that holy grail. One of them, called Hound Labs, is headquartered in downtown Oakland, right in the heart of the new cannabis economy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mike Lynn is a trained ER doctor turned entrepreneur. But his company, unlike some of its neighbors, doesn’t make cannabis chocolates or THC lollipops. Lynn is co-founder and CEO of Hound Labs, which makes a breathalyzer for marijuana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lynn says the breathalyzer actually measures both THC and alcohol. The two substances together have a stronger effect on drivers than either one alone.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n What do you wonder about the Bay Area, its culture or people that you want KQED to investigate?\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Ask Bay Curious.\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cbr>\nThe device looks a bit like a black plastic tape dispenser, with a tube sticking out. If you blow through it at the right rate, it beeps.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although THC lingers in blood for days or weeks, Lynn says THC disappears from breath after a few hours. Even in those hours right after smoking, THC in breath comes in tiny concentrations. It’s hard to detect, and there isn’t much research on it published yet. But Lynn says the Hound Labs device can measure it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lynn says “nobody really knows” why THC stays in breath only a few hours. But because of this short time span, users with THC in their breath “have used pot very, very recently and [are] much more likely to be impaired.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignright\">\n\u003ch3>More Answers About Legal Weed\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638103\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Will companies still drug test for marijuana?\u003c/strong> You might think that with recreational marijuana now legal, it would be treated like alcohol or nicotine by employers. Not quite. Learn how legal weed could affect your job in our \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/everything-you-want-to-know-about-legal-weed-in-california-2/#Jobs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">special pot show.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>So although the Hound Labs test doesn’t prove someone is truly impaired, Lynn says it could serve as evidence someone used cannabis recently.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hound Labs hopes to sell the breathalyzer to police departments starting this year, including to some in the Bay Area and elsewhere in California. The company would not disclose which departments, citing confidentiality agreements. Lynn says his company is contacted by agencies from all over the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Everybody’s dealing with the same issue,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A marijuana breathalyzer could mean big business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hound Labs says it has raised about $14 million, including $8.1 million from the elite Silicon Valley fund Benchmark.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Yes, There’s an App For That\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Not everyone buys into the breathalyzer idea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dale Gieringer, director of California NORML, says a breath test “will be no more effective than the ineffectual blood tests and urine tests and oral swab tests that they’ve got now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"alignleft\">\n\u003ch3>More Answers About Legal Weed\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638108\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-520x390.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>Why does the law prohibit marijuana products with seafood?\u003c/strong> Cannabis-infused edibles might soon be legal, but you won’t be able to find weed in everything. Learn what foods can and can’t include cannabis in our \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/everything-you-want-to-know-about-legal-weed-in-california-2/#Seafood\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">special pot show.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>Gieringer says the important thing in setting a DUI law is how risky someone’s behavior is. And marijuana, he says, just isn’t that big an increased risk — “less than the risk of having two other people in the car with you, not to mention the risk of being a driver under 25 or being a male driver.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Exactly how marijuana stacks up against those other risks is disputed by different studies. But most research shows marijuana having only a small effect on driving.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gieringer says for marijuana — or any drug — we need a way to measure if you’re really safe to drive, not just if there’s a chemical in your system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gieringer has an app in his pocket designed to do just that. It’s called “My Canary.” It asks him to remember a series of numbers, and then do a balancing test.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638139\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638139\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-800x453.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-800x453.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-160x91.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-1020x577.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-1180x667.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-960x543.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-240x136.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-375x212.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28664_imag3008-qut-520x294.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dale Gieringer, the head of California NORML, uses a sobriety-testing app called My Canary. \u003ccite>(Eli Wirtschafter/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Gieringer is on a statewide Highway Patrol task force that will suggest policies for drug DUIs. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>On Jan. 1, it will become legal for adults 21 and older to buy and sell recreational marijuana in California. In anticipation, Bay Curious is answering a bunch of your questions about commercially available marijuana.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003ca id=\"Jan1\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where will I be able to buy recreational marijuana on Jan. 1?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003cbr>\nProposition 64, the ballot initiative that legalized recreational marijuana in 2016, gave cities and counties the power to decide whether adult-use marijuana could be available in their areas. A number of municipalities have banned recreational sales. For those who have approved it, they still need to work out their own regulations and licensing processes — meaning that some places won’t be ready to roll out right away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s what you can expect in the state’s 10 biggest cities:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Green light:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>San Jose: 16 currently registered medical dispensaries will be allowed to sell recreationally on Jan. 1.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Oakland: Any of the city’s licensed medical dispensaries will be able to sell recreationally on Jan. 1 with the proper state license.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>San Diego: 15 existing medical dispensaries and two new businesses are approved to sell recreationally on Jan. 1 with the proper state license.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sacramento: Any of the 30 existing medical dispensaries that complete permitting requirements will be able to sell recreationally on Jan. 1.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Yellow light:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>San Francisco: Businesses with necessary licenses can start operating on Jan. 6.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Santa Rosa: The City Council passed final regulations this week, and businesses are expected to be able to start operating on Jan. 19.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Los Angeles: Existing medical dispensaries will be able to start applying for adult use licenses on Jan. 1.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Red light:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Long Beach: A 180-day temporary ban on adult-use sales went into effect on Nov. 14. City officials are working on legislation that would allow for recreational sales by June 2018.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Bakersfield: The City Council banned all commercial cannabis activities.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Anaheim: The City Council banned all commercial cannabis activities.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Will jobs that drug-test employees still screen for marijuana after it’s been legalized?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638103\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638103\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Even though it is legal for adults 21 and older to use marijuana, that doesn’t mean employers can’t ban their employees from doing so. \u003ccite>(David McNew/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Yes. Part of Proposition 64 specifically amends the state’s health and safety code, making it clear that employers can still ban their employees from using marijuana:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>The rights and obligations of public and private employers to maintain a drug and alcohol free workplace or require an employer to permit or accommodate the use, consumption, possession, transfer, display, transportation, sale, or growth of cannabis in the workplace, or affect the ability of employers to have policies prohibiting the use of cannabis by employees and prospective employees, or prevent employers from complying with state or federal law.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Before Proposition 64, the \u003ca href=\"http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-marijuana25jan25-story.html\">California Supreme Court upheld\u003c/a> the right of companies to fire employees for using physician-recommended marijuana even when they are not working, so recreational users aren’t likely to get any better treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there’s nothing that says companies have to drug-test, and many in California don’t. So check with your employer.\u003cbr>\n\u003ca id=\"MedicalCard\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>I have a medical card from the department of public health. What changes for me?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638102\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638102\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-800x522.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"522\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-800x522.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-160x104.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-1020x666.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-1180x770.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-960x627.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-240x157.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-375x245.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-520x339.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">You don’t need a medical marijuana card to buy weed anymore, but it could save you some money. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If you walk into a dispensary, you’ll notice some changes. Cannabis products will have to go through much more testing to ensure there are no harmful pesticides and that the edibles have an even distribution of THC. After Jan. 1, there will be a grace period where untested products can still be sold, but they must be labeled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The potency levels of edibles will also be capped, according to Greg Zeman, an associate editor at Cannabis Now Magazine. Some edibles currently contain as much as 1,000 milligrams per bar, but edibles sold in adult-use dispensaries will have to be capped at total strength of no more than 100 milligrams of THC and divided into clearly identifiable servings of no more than 10 milligrams in strength each.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, state-approved medical cards will give patients a break from paying some state taxes, and while recreational users have a possession limit of 1 ounce of dried flowers or 8 grams of concentrate, card holders can exceed that limit. For weed neophytes, an ounce could make roughly 30 joints.\u003cbr>\n\u003ca id=\"Taxes\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where will the taxes go?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Money was a big incentive for the state to legalize recreational marijuana. State analysts have said legalization could add up to $1 billion annually to the state coffers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Taxes from recreational marijuana sales will primarily go toward law enforcement programs, youth education programs and environmental causes, according to Alex Traverso, spokesman for the state’s Bureau of Cannabis Control.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Traverso says the enforcement funds are necessary because, “if the goal of regulation is to diminish the black market, you have to take a percentage of those tax revenues and put them into enforcement and get people to come online.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state has set aside funds for the scientific study of marijuana and to see how regulations are working.\u003cbr>\n[baycuriousbug]\u003cbr>\nAnother fund has been set up that will collect $50 million a year by 2023 to fund a suite of social and medical programs with an emphasis on mental health and job placement for at-risk individuals. Zeman says that this fund could help communities that have been hurt by the war on drugs.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Is there any scientific standard for how much marijuana is too much to drive on?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>No. In California, the consequences for driving drunk and driving high are the same. But while there’s a clear blood limit for alcohol, there’s no such standard for marijuana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Marijuana is very different than alcohol,” says Jolene Forman, a lawyer with the Drug Policy Alliance. With alcohol, impairment links strongly with the amount you’ve had to drink, depending on your weight and gender, and disappears from your blood. But, according to Forman, marijuana can stay in your blood for weeks sometimes after you’ve consumed it, and THC can affect people very differently, making measuring THC not a very reliable measurement of someone’s driving ability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638141\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638141\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-800x453.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-800x453.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-160x91.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-1020x577.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-1180x667.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-960x543.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-240x136.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-375x212.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-520x294.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mike Lynn, CEO of Hound Labs in Oakland, which plans to sell a marijuana breathalyzer to law enforcement agencies next year. \u003ccite>(Eli Wirtschafter/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On average, marijuana does impair driving skills for most people, especially 20 to 40 minutes after smoking, but measuring THC isn’t a good indicator of impairment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This didn’t stop Washington and Colorado from setting a THC limit for drivers, but California doesn’t set a numerical limit on THC. Instead, the law says you can’t drive under the influence of any drug — period. It’s also illegal to consume cannabis while driving or riding in a vehicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since a THC blood test won’t work, a marijuana DUI conviction in California depends on things an officer observes, such as the smell of marijuana in the car or a physical sobriety test like those given to drivers who may be drunk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To learn more about California’s marijuana driving laws, including an Oakland-developed breathalyzer for marijuana, \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/how-much-marijuana-is-too-much-to-drive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">click here\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What about equity programs?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The war on drugs disproportionately affected people of color. While black people and white people smoke weed at similar rates, black people have been almost four times as likely to be arrested for marijuana-related charges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the “green rush” knocking at California’s door, cities such as Oakland, San Francisco and Los Angeles are looking at ways to help affected communities by creating cannabis equity programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To learn more about those programs and if they will work, check out \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/11/21/as-weed-is-legalized-are-marijuana-reparations-possible/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this episode\u003c/a> of the KQED podcast “Q’ed Up.”\u003cbr>\n\u003ca id=\"Seafood\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why does the law prohibit marijuana products with seafood?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638108\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638108\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-520x390.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">This crab can hold a joint, but don’t expect to find any cannabis-infused seafood. \u003ccite>(Alexandr Kurbanov/Flickr)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>There are several types of products that cannot be manufactured with cannabis, including:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Alcoholic beverages\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>“Any cannabis product that must be held at or below 41 degrees Fahrenheit to keep it safe for human consumption, including, but not limited to, cream or custard-filled pies; pies or pastries which consist in whole or in part of milk or milk products, eggs, or synthetic fillings; or meat-filled pies or pastries.”\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Dairy products of any kind, except butter\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Seafood products of any kind\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>“Any cannabis product in the shape of a human being, either realistic or caricature, animal, insect, or fruit”\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Seafood in particular is banned because officials in the Department of Public Health are worried about food poisoning. This means no weed shrimp, no weed tilapia and no weed crab. Sorry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n",
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In anticipation, Bay Curious is answering a bunch of your questions about commercially available marijuana.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003ca id=\"Jan1\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where will I be able to buy recreational marijuana on Jan. 1?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cbr>\nProposition 64, the ballot initiative that legalized recreational marijuana in 2016, gave cities and counties the power to decide whether adult-use marijuana could be available in their areas. A number of municipalities have banned recreational sales. For those who have approved it, they still need to work out their own regulations and licensing processes — meaning that some places won’t be ready to roll out right away.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s what you can expect in the state’s 10 biggest cities:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Green light:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>San Jose: 16 currently registered medical dispensaries will be allowed to sell recreationally on Jan. 1.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Oakland: Any of the city’s licensed medical dispensaries will be able to sell recreationally on Jan. 1 with the proper state license.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>San Diego: 15 existing medical dispensaries and two new businesses are approved to sell recreationally on Jan. 1 with the proper state license.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Sacramento: Any of the 30 existing medical dispensaries that complete permitting requirements will be able to sell recreationally on Jan. 1.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Yellow light:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>San Francisco: Businesses with necessary licenses can start operating on Jan. 6.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Santa Rosa: The City Council passed final regulations this week, and businesses are expected to be able to start operating on Jan. 19.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Los Angeles: Existing medical dispensaries will be able to start applying for adult use licenses on Jan. 1.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Red light:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Long Beach: A 180-day temporary ban on adult-use sales went into effect on Nov. 14. City officials are working on legislation that would allow for recreational sales by June 2018.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Bakersfield: The City Council banned all commercial cannabis activities.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Anaheim: The City Council banned all commercial cannabis activities.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Will jobs that drug-test employees still screen for marijuana after it’s been legalized?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638103\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638103\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28656_GettyImages-91997107-qut-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Even though it is legal for adults 21 and older to use marijuana, that doesn’t mean employers can’t ban their employees from doing so. \u003ccite>(David McNew/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Yes. Part of Proposition 64 specifically amends the state’s health and safety code, making it clear that employers can still ban their employees from using marijuana:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>The rights and obligations of public and private employers to maintain a drug and alcohol free workplace or require an employer to permit or accommodate the use, consumption, possession, transfer, display, transportation, sale, or growth of cannabis in the workplace, or affect the ability of employers to have policies prohibiting the use of cannabis by employees and prospective employees, or prevent employers from complying with state or federal law.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Before Proposition 64, the \u003ca href=\"http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-marijuana25jan25-story.html\">California Supreme Court upheld\u003c/a> the right of companies to fire employees for using physician-recommended marijuana even when they are not working, so recreational users aren’t likely to get any better treatment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there’s nothing that says companies have to drug-test, and many in California don’t. So check with your employer.\u003cbr>\n\u003ca id=\"MedicalCard\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>I have a medical card from the department of public health. What changes for me?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638102\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638102\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-800x522.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"522\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-800x522.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-160x104.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-1020x666.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-1180x770.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-960x627.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-240x157.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-375x245.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28659_GettyImages-53228593-qut-520x339.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">You don’t need a medical marijuana card to buy weed anymore, but it could save you some money. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>If you walk into a dispensary, you’ll notice some changes. Cannabis products will have to go through much more testing to ensure there are no harmful pesticides and that the edibles have an even distribution of THC. After Jan. 1, there will be a grace period where untested products can still be sold, but they must be labeled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The potency levels of edibles will also be capped, according to Greg Zeman, an associate editor at Cannabis Now Magazine. Some edibles currently contain as much as 1,000 milligrams per bar, but edibles sold in adult-use dispensaries will have to be capped at total strength of no more than 100 milligrams of THC and divided into clearly identifiable servings of no more than 10 milligrams in strength each.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, state-approved medical cards will give patients a break from paying some state taxes, and while recreational users have a possession limit of 1 ounce of dried flowers or 8 grams of concentrate, card holders can exceed that limit. For weed neophytes, an ounce could make roughly 30 joints.\u003cbr>\n\u003ca id=\"Taxes\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Where will the taxes go?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Money was a big incentive for the state to legalize recreational marijuana. State analysts have said legalization could add up to $1 billion annually to the state coffers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Taxes from recreational marijuana sales will primarily go toward law enforcement programs, youth education programs and environmental causes, according to Alex Traverso, spokesman for the state’s Bureau of Cannabis Control.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Traverso says the enforcement funds are necessary because, “if the goal of regulation is to diminish the black market, you have to take a percentage of those tax revenues and put them into enforcement and get people to come online.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The state has set aside funds for the scientific study of marijuana and to see how regulations are working.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n What do you wonder about the Bay Area, its culture or people that you want KQED to investigate?\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Ask Bay Curious.\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cbr>\nAnother fund has been set up that will collect $50 million a year by 2023 to fund a suite of social and medical programs with an emphasis on mental health and job placement for at-risk individuals. Zeman says that this fund could help communities that have been hurt by the war on drugs.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Is there any scientific standard for how much marijuana is too much to drive on?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>No. In California, the consequences for driving drunk and driving high are the same. But while there’s a clear blood limit for alcohol, there’s no such standard for marijuana.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Marijuana is very different than alcohol,” says Jolene Forman, a lawyer with the Drug Policy Alliance. With alcohol, impairment links strongly with the amount you’ve had to drink, depending on your weight and gender, and disappears from your blood. But, according to Forman, marijuana can stay in your blood for weeks sometimes after you’ve consumed it, and THC can affect people very differently, making measuring THC not a very reliable measurement of someone’s driving ability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638141\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638141\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-800x453.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-800x453.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-160x91.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-1020x577.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-1180x667.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-960x543.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-240x136.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-375x212.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28661_Mike-Lynn-of-Hound-Labs-qut-520x294.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mike Lynn, CEO of Hound Labs in Oakland, which plans to sell a marijuana breathalyzer to law enforcement agencies next year. \u003ccite>(Eli Wirtschafter/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On average, marijuana does impair driving skills for most people, especially 20 to 40 minutes after smoking, but measuring THC isn’t a good indicator of impairment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This didn’t stop Washington and Colorado from setting a THC limit for drivers, but California doesn’t set a numerical limit on THC. Instead, the law says you can’t drive under the influence of any drug — period. It’s also illegal to consume cannabis while driving or riding in a vehicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since a THC blood test won’t work, a marijuana DUI conviction in California depends on things an officer observes, such as the smell of marijuana in the car or a physical sobriety test like those given to drivers who may be drunk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To learn more about California’s marijuana driving laws, including an Oakland-developed breathalyzer for marijuana, \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/21/how-much-marijuana-is-too-much-to-drive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">click here\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What about equity programs?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The war on drugs disproportionately affected people of color. While black people and white people smoke weed at similar rates, black people have been almost four times as likely to be arrested for marijuana-related charges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the “green rush” knocking at California’s door, cities such as Oakland, San Francisco and Los Angeles are looking at ways to help affected communities by creating cannabis equity programs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To learn more about those programs and if they will work, check out \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/11/21/as-weed-is-legalized-are-marijuana-reparations-possible/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this episode\u003c/a> of the KQED podcast “Q’ed Up.”\u003cbr>\n\u003ca id=\"Seafood\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Why does the law prohibit marijuana products with seafood?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11638108\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11638108\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut-520x390.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28660_271028312_7615dd2224_b-qut.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">This crab can hold a joint, but don’t expect to find any cannabis-infused seafood. \u003ccite>(Alexandr Kurbanov/Flickr)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>There are several types of products that cannot be manufactured with cannabis, including:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Alcoholic beverages\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>“Any cannabis product that must be held at or below 41 degrees Fahrenheit to keep it safe for human consumption, including, but not limited to, cream or custard-filled pies; pies or pastries which consist in whole or in part of milk or milk products, eggs, or synthetic fillings; or meat-filled pies or pastries.”\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Dairy products of any kind, except butter\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Seafood products of any kind\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>“Any cannabis product in the shape of a human being, either realistic or caricature, animal, insect, or fruit”\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>Seafood in particular is banned because officials in the Department of Public Health are worried about food poisoning. 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"content": "\u003cp>[dropcap]W[/dropcap]hen I first moved to San Francisco in the summer of 2016, I was blown away by the Castro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a queer guy who grew up in the Midwest, I had never seen anything like it. Rainbow flags. Rainbow crosswalks. Gay couples everywhere holding hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I had never seen a gayer place.[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But our question asker Bob Girard had a different experience the last time he was in the Castro. He lives in Ventura County with his partner and has visited the Castro a lot over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The last time we were there it just really seemed to have changed a lot,” Girard said. “Doesn’t seem to be quite the same old Castro as in years past.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what has changed?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Well, it just didn’t seem to be as gay as it used to be,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which raises the question: \u003cstrong>Is the Castro getting less gay?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the Castro might look as gay as ever, the rainbow explosion on the streets covers up a changing neighborhood that’s home to fewer and fewer gay people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634607\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634607\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"San Francisco's Castro District on Oct. 27, 2017. Many of the neighborhood's gay residents have been priced out in recent years.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco’s Castro District on Oct. 27, 2017. Many of the neighborhood’s gay residents have been priced out in recent years. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It’s gone from being a gay village to being a tourist destination for people around the world who want to come here and experience a little bit of the gay,” says Don Romesburg, an LGBTQ historian who moved to the Castro in the 1990s after college.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco has long had neighborhoods where LGBTQ people concentrated — North Beach, the Tenderloin, the Polk. But Romesburg says the rise of the Castro in the 1970s was different.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Castro and the gay liberation movement gained speed together, creating a more fully realized neighborhood than any of its predecessors. There weren’t just gay bars and bathhouses in the Castro. There were gay barbers and gay doctors and opportunities to do gay activism with gay nonprofits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To have a place in San Francisco, in the world, where gay people can come together as a community and feel like they truly belong and that there’s no real sense of stigma, that’s what made the Castro very special for me as a young guy in my 20s,” Romesburg says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in a country where gay marriage is legal and acceptance of LGBTQ people is greater than ever, some argue that “gayborhoods” aren’t necessary anymore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634604\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634604\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-800x1057.jpg\" alt='LGBTQ historian Don Romesburg stands in front of the Castro apartment building he was priced out of in 2011. \"There was absolutely no way we could afford anywhere else remotely close to the Castro,\" Romesburg said.' width=\"800\" height=\"1057\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-800x1057.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-160x211.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-1020x1347.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-1180x1558.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-960x1268.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-240x317.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-375x495.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-520x687.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669.jpg 1272w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">LGBTQ historian Don Romesburg stands in front of the Castro apartment building he was priced out of in 2011. “There was absolutely no way we could afford anywhere else remotely close to the Castro,” Romesburg said. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Romesburg agrees that this “post-gay thesis” is part of the reason why there are fewer gay people living in the Castro today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s not the whole story.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think that’s a little too optimistic,” he says. “I think it’s too shiny and progress-y.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, Romesburg points the finger at a more familiar culprit: gentrification.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Romesburg, the mostly gay white men who moved into the Castro in the 1970s transformed the working-class neighborhood. They rebuilt old Victorian homes that lined the streets and opened popular restaurants and shops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the mid-to-late 1990s, the Castro had become an attractive place to live for queer and straight people alike. Romesburg says this led to a second wave of gentrification that pushed older LGBTQ people — including many older gay men with HIV and AIDS — out of the neighborhood. It also raised costs to the point where young LGBTQ people couldn’t afford to move in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It costs more than $3,800 a month \u003ca href=\"https://www.rentjungle.com/average-rent-in-san-francisco-rent-trends/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on average to rent\u003c/a> an apartment in the Castro, according to one company that tracks rents. The \u003ca href=\"http://sfar.stats.10kresearch.com/infoserv/s-v1/bGWu-SAz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">median price of a house\u003c/a> in the neighborhood is close to $3 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Romesburg was renting an apartment in the Castro with his partner and their young daughter when they were forced out a few years ago and couldn’t afford to rent anywhere else in the neighborhood. They stayed in San Francisco, moving to the city’s west side, but Romesburg knows of men who have left the Bay Area, moving to Southern California and even out of state after being priced out of the Castro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A community is woven together like a tapestry, and as you pull out the threads of it, the community becomes much more frayed,” Romesburg says. “I think of the Castro in that way. I feel like, as it becomes more of a global tourist destination and less of a community, it loses some of its heart and some of its soul.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>So where is everyone moving?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>If fewer LGBTQ people are living in the Castro, where are they living?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob Girard and his partner are looking at moving to the Bay Area, but they don’t want to live in San Francisco. They do, however, want to make sure they end up somewhere where they’re not the only gay couple around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not necessary that it needs to be a high percentage,” Girard says of where they’d like to move. “I’d just like to see other gay people out in public once in a while and to have more social opportunities than exist where we live now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Real estate agents say they’ve seen an exodus of LGBTQ people out of San Francisco and into Oakland. Taylor Sublett, an agent who works with a lot of gay clients, says they’re moving to Oakland for the same reason that everyone else is moving to Oakland: affordability, proximity to San Francisco and more space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But unlike the Castro, there’s no one neighborhood in Oakland where gay people are concentrating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s the same places you see people concentrating from San Francisco period,” Sublett says. “They want to be able to walk to a coffee or be somewhere with that neighborhood-y feel that they’ve been priced out of in San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Myles Downes is one of those people. He’s a therapist who has been trying to get out of San Francisco for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634602\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634602\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"Myles Downes looks at houses in Oakland on October 27, 2017. Downes, who is gay, has been living in San Francisco for years and is looking to move somewhere more affordable.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Myles Downes looks at houses in Oakland on Oct. 27, 2017. Downes, who is gay, has been living in San Francisco for years and is looking to move somewhere more affordable. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>He says many of his gay friends have moved out of the city, and it’s become harder to maintain those relationships. He’d love to find a place in Oakland where he’s surrounded by other gay people, but like a lot of people making that move, it’s not his top priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There was a time when we needed ghettoization because it was safer,” Downes says. “Now we don’t really need that as much. We can go and live in the middle of a predominantly straight community, and people are pretty cool with it and it’s no big deal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But other places in the Bay Area with growing queer communities are trying to be a little more purposeful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sonoma and Alameda counties have the highest proportion of same-sex couples in the Bay Area (and in the state, along with Riverside and Santa Cruz) after San Francisco, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_16_5YR_S1101&prodType=table\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2016 American Community Survey\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousbug]“Sonoma County is so spread out. I think if we all got together in one place, it would really show how many folks are here,” says Alisse Cottle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage was legal in 2015, Cottle and her partner, Jess Borrayo, put a rainbow flag outside Brew Coffee and Beer House, the cafe they run in downtown Santa Rosa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They opened the restaurant at the beginning of the year without any political agenda. But with the flag now waving proudly outside, Brew started becoming a hub for the area’s growing queer community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634605\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634605\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"A rainbow gay pride flag hangs outside Brew in Santa Rosa. Brew's owners put the flag out after the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage legal across the country, and the cafe has since become a hub for Santa Rosa's growing queer community.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A rainbow gay pride flag hangs outside Brew in Santa Rosa. Brew’s owners put the flag out after the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage legal across the country, and the cafe has since become a hub for Santa Rosa’s growing queer community. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It just started fitting a need that clearly people wanted it,” Cottle said. “And we didn’t really have to do much of anything but just be open to it and be willing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://letterpeople.io/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Letter People\u003c/a>, Sonoma County’s queer professionals group, started holding its meetings at Brew. \u003ca href=\"http://posimages.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Positive Images\u003c/a>, the county’s LGBTQ youth group, started doing the same.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Transgender people are a big part of Santa Rosa’s LGBTQ community. The city hosts an annual transgender conference, and Brew hosted a party for a group of transgender kids in October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cordelia Southworth, a trans woman, has been living in Santa Rosa for more than 20 years. She has been looking to move to San Francisco recently to be a part of a more active queer community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But I’m really enjoying seeing what’s happening up here now that it’s starting to come together and be more visible,” she says. “So I don’t know. It might liven up around here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This post has been updated with the newest data from the American Community Survey.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class=\"utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__dropcapShortcode__dropcap\">W\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>hen I first moved to San Francisco in the summer of 2016, I was blown away by the Castro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a queer guy who grew up in the Midwest, I had never seen anything like it. Rainbow flags. Rainbow crosswalks. Gay couples everywhere holding hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I had never seen a gayer place.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But our question asker Bob Girard had a different experience the last time he was in the Castro. He lives in Ventura County with his partner and has visited the Castro a lot over the years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The last time we were there it just really seemed to have changed a lot,” Girard said. “Doesn’t seem to be quite the same old Castro as in years past.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So what has changed?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Well, it just didn’t seem to be as gay as it used to be,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Which raises the question: \u003cstrong>Is the Castro getting less gay?\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the Castro might look as gay as ever, the rainbow explosion on the streets covers up a changing neighborhood that’s home to fewer and fewer gay people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634607\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634607\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"San Francisco's Castro District on Oct. 27, 2017. Many of the neighborhood's gay residents have been priced out in recent years.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28194_Castro-2-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco’s Castro District on Oct. 27, 2017. Many of the neighborhood’s gay residents have been priced out in recent years. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It’s gone from being a gay village to being a tourist destination for people around the world who want to come here and experience a little bit of the gay,” says Don Romesburg, an LGBTQ historian who moved to the Castro in the 1990s after college.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco has long had neighborhoods where LGBTQ people concentrated — North Beach, the Tenderloin, the Polk. But Romesburg says the rise of the Castro in the 1970s was different.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Castro and the gay liberation movement gained speed together, creating a more fully realized neighborhood than any of its predecessors. There weren’t just gay bars and bathhouses in the Castro. There were gay barbers and gay doctors and opportunities to do gay activism with gay nonprofits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“To have a place in San Francisco, in the world, where gay people can come together as a community and feel like they truly belong and that there’s no real sense of stigma, that’s what made the Castro very special for me as a young guy in my 20s,” Romesburg says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But in a country where gay marriage is legal and acceptance of LGBTQ people is greater than ever, some argue that “gayborhoods” aren’t necessary anymore.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634604\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634604\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-800x1057.jpg\" alt='LGBTQ historian Don Romesburg stands in front of the Castro apartment building he was priced out of in 2011. \"There was absolutely no way we could afford anywhere else remotely close to the Castro,\" Romesburg said.' width=\"800\" height=\"1057\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-800x1057.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-160x211.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-1020x1347.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-1180x1558.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-960x1268.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-240x317.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-375x495.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669-520x687.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28193_Romesburg-1-qut-e1512340502669.jpg 1272w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">LGBTQ historian Don Romesburg stands in front of the Castro apartment building he was priced out of in 2011. “There was absolutely no way we could afford anywhere else remotely close to the Castro,” Romesburg said. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Romesburg agrees that this “post-gay thesis” is part of the reason why there are fewer gay people living in the Castro today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But it’s not the whole story.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think that’s a little too optimistic,” he says. “I think it’s too shiny and progress-y.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead, Romesburg points the finger at a more familiar culprit: gentrification.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Romesburg, the mostly gay white men who moved into the Castro in the 1970s transformed the working-class neighborhood. They rebuilt old Victorian homes that lined the streets and opened popular restaurants and shops.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By the mid-to-late 1990s, the Castro had become an attractive place to live for queer and straight people alike. Romesburg says this led to a second wave of gentrification that pushed older LGBTQ people — including many older gay men with HIV and AIDS — out of the neighborhood. It also raised costs to the point where young LGBTQ people couldn’t afford to move in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It costs more than $3,800 a month \u003ca href=\"https://www.rentjungle.com/average-rent-in-san-francisco-rent-trends/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on average to rent\u003c/a> an apartment in the Castro, according to one company that tracks rents. The \u003ca href=\"http://sfar.stats.10kresearch.com/infoserv/s-v1/bGWu-SAz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">median price of a house\u003c/a> in the neighborhood is close to $3 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Romesburg was renting an apartment in the Castro with his partner and their young daughter when they were forced out a few years ago and couldn’t afford to rent anywhere else in the neighborhood. They stayed in San Francisco, moving to the city’s west side, but Romesburg knows of men who have left the Bay Area, moving to Southern California and even out of state after being priced out of the Castro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“A community is woven together like a tapestry, and as you pull out the threads of it, the community becomes much more frayed,” Romesburg says. “I think of the Castro in that way. I feel like, as it becomes more of a global tourist destination and less of a community, it loses some of its heart and some of its soul.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>So where is everyone moving?\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>If fewer LGBTQ people are living in the Castro, where are they living?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob Girard and his partner are looking at moving to the Bay Area, but they don’t want to live in San Francisco. They do, however, want to make sure they end up somewhere where they’re not the only gay couple around.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not necessary that it needs to be a high percentage,” Girard says of where they’d like to move. “I’d just like to see other gay people out in public once in a while and to have more social opportunities than exist where we live now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Real estate agents say they’ve seen an exodus of LGBTQ people out of San Francisco and into Oakland. Taylor Sublett, an agent who works with a lot of gay clients, says they’re moving to Oakland for the same reason that everyone else is moving to Oakland: affordability, proximity to San Francisco and more space.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But unlike the Castro, there’s no one neighborhood in Oakland where gay people are concentrating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s the same places you see people concentrating from San Francisco period,” Sublett says. “They want to be able to walk to a coffee or be somewhere with that neighborhood-y feel that they’ve been priced out of in San Francisco.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Myles Downes is one of those people. He’s a therapist who has been trying to get out of San Francisco for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634602\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634602\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"Myles Downes looks at houses in Oakland on October 27, 2017. Downes, who is gay, has been living in San Francisco for years and is looking to move somewhere more affordable.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28196_Myles-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Myles Downes looks at houses in Oakland on Oct. 27, 2017. Downes, who is gay, has been living in San Francisco for years and is looking to move somewhere more affordable. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>He says many of his gay friends have moved out of the city, and it’s become harder to maintain those relationships. He’d love to find a place in Oakland where he’s surrounded by other gay people, but like a lot of people making that move, it’s not his top priority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There was a time when we needed ghettoization because it was safer,” Downes says. “Now we don’t really need that as much. We can go and live in the middle of a predominantly straight community, and people are pretty cool with it and it’s no big deal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But other places in the Bay Area with growing queer communities are trying to be a little more purposeful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sonoma and Alameda counties have the highest proportion of same-sex couples in the Bay Area (and in the state, along with Riverside and Santa Cruz) after San Francisco, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_16_5YR_S1101&prodType=table\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2016 American Community Survey\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n What do you wonder about the Bay Area, its culture or people that you want KQED to investigate?\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Ask Bay Curious.\u003c/a>\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>“Sonoma County is so spread out. I think if we all got together in one place, it would really show how many folks are here,” says Alisse Cottle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage was legal in 2015, Cottle and her partner, Jess Borrayo, put a rainbow flag outside Brew Coffee and Beer House, the cafe they run in downtown Santa Rosa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They opened the restaurant at the beginning of the year without any political agenda. But with the flag now waving proudly outside, Brew started becoming a hub for the area’s growing queer community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11634605\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut.jpg\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11634605\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-800x530.jpg\" alt=\"A rainbow gay pride flag hangs outside Brew in Santa Rosa. Brew's owners put the flag out after the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage legal across the country, and the cafe has since become a hub for Santa Rosa's growing queer community.\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-800x530.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-160x106.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-1020x676.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-1180x782.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-960x636.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-240x159.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-375x248.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/12/RS28198_Brew-1-qut-520x345.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A rainbow gay pride flag hangs outside Brew in Santa Rosa. Brew’s owners put the flag out after the Supreme Court ruled gay marriage legal across the country, and the cafe has since become a hub for Santa Rosa’s growing queer community. \u003ccite>(Ryan Levi/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“It just started fitting a need that clearly people wanted it,” Cottle said. “And we didn’t really have to do much of anything but just be open to it and be willing.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://letterpeople.io/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Letter People\u003c/a>, Sonoma County’s queer professionals group, started holding its meetings at Brew. \u003ca href=\"http://posimages.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Positive Images\u003c/a>, the county’s LGBTQ youth group, started doing the same.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Transgender people are a big part of Santa Rosa’s LGBTQ community. The city hosts an annual transgender conference, and Brew hosted a party for a group of transgender kids in October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cordelia Southworth, a trans woman, has been living in Santa Rosa for more than 20 years. She has been looking to move to San Francisco recently to be a part of a more active queer community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But I’m really enjoying seeing what’s happening up here now that it’s starting to come together and be more visible,” she says. “So I don’t know. It might liven up around here.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This post has been updated with the newest data from the American Community Survey.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Bay Curious listener Josh Brett grew up Oakland, and was told from a young age that it is \u003cem>illegal\u003c/em> to pick California’s state flower: the golden poppy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was sort of just common knowledge as a kid growing up in the Bay Area in the 90s that it was illegal,” he says. “You might even go to jail for it!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11633417\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 160px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11633417 size-thumbnail\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/image1-160x213.jpg\" alt=\"Josh Brett\" width=\"160\" height=\"213\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/image1-160x213.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/image1-800x1067.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/image1-1020x1360.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/image1-1920x2560.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/image1-1180x1573.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/image1-960x1280.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/image1-240x320.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/image1-375x500.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/image1-520x693.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/image1.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Josh Brett \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Josh Brett)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Brett isn’t sure where he first heard this warning — maybe older siblings, parents or teachers. But now that he’s all grown up, he wants to know, is it true?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He asked Bay Curious:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>“Is it illegal to pick California golden poppies?”\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Turns out this myth is sort of true because it’s illegal to pick \u003cem>any\u003c/em> plant found in state and federal parks. If you pick one, you could be prosecuted for a misdemeanor crime punishable with a fine up to $1,000, and even 6 months in jail.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s also illegal to harm plants on other people’s property unless you get permission. That means one of the few places you can pick poppies without worry is in your own backyard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even if you wanted to pick the poppy, that’d be a waste, says Robin Binaoro, a seed ecologist at the Marin Headlands Nursery. “They’re not great flowers to pick to put in a bouquet because right when you pick ’em the petals start to fall off.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He collects the seeds of the poppy — scientifically known as eschscholzia californica — legally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Once the flower dries out, the slightest touch will cause it to pop and the seeds can shoot several feet away,” says Binaoro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Binaoro recommends keeping your poppies in the ground, where you can watch them respond to the light.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re phototropic … on a sunny day you’ll see them open up, on a cloudy day they’ll stay closed,” he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11633471\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11633471 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/IMG_0403-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Robin Binaoro at the Marin Headlands Nursery\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robin Binaoro at the Marin Headlands Nursery \u003ccite>(Jessica Placzek/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Before It Was The State Flower\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The poppy became California’s state flower in 1903, but it had many uses before the state of California even existed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Native Americans of the Bay Area, the Ohlone, had a lot of uses for the golden poppy, says Desiree Muñoz. She’s Rumsen Ohlone, and a ranger at the Golden Gate National Recreation Area. She says the Ohlone would boil the poppy in water to make a treatment that would get rid of pesky bugs that like to live on your scalp in your hair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The vibrant color was also a helpful signpost. Muñoz’s sister says that the Ohlone used to plant poppies atop sacred burial sites along the coast, called shell mounds. The flower’s bright color would help direct ships into the bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousbug]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The golden poppy also has narcotic qualities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sometimes the boys, when they’re fasting, they used to use the Poppy to help them on their vision quests,” says Muñoz.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most poppies are a little bit narcotic. 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