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You know, student visas do get revoked, but it’s typically if you stop going to class, you know, if your course load falls below the required amount or if you, you know take a job that you’re not authorized to have under your visa or something like that. But this is really, I would say, pretty unprecedented that the government is coming in and sort of terminating people’s student status even when they’ve been in good standing at their schools.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\n\u003c/p>\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:03:08] What do we know about how many students have had their visas revoked, maybe even face deportation, both nationally and here in the Bay Area, California?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Tyche Hendricks \u003c/strong>[00:03:19] The latest numbers that I have at UC Berkeley, there have been 21 students, which includes undergrads, grad students, and also recent graduates who have still permission to be getting some practical experience here after they graduate. 21 of them have had their visas revoked. I would say there’s definitely over 100 in California and the number keeps growing. 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They each had a misdemeanor traffic issue on their record. I think in at least one of those cases, the government knew about it when they issued the student visa, so it wasn’t a surprise. And so this kind of came out of the blue for these students. And they’ve sued ICE, the Department of Homeland Security in federal court in the los angeles area and they’ve said like this is unlawful that you have terminated our student status when you know there’s no there’s no basis for it we’ve complied with all the terms of our student visas .\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:05:17] What happened to their student visa status?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Tyche Hendricks \u003c/strong>[00:05:20] You know, it’s a little complicated system here. But basically, the State Department issues the student visa that says, you have permission to come into our country and go to a university here. And then based on that, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is sort of the police agency within. Homeland Security that’s tracking people inside the country has a big database of students. It’s called SEVIS. And universities have to put information in there to show that the students are complying with the terms of being an international student here. Now, in this case, ICE has come in and terminated their records in this database, basically saying, you don’t have student status. and that then makes them potentially deportable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\n\u003c/p>\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:06:15] Understandably Student Doe #1, Student Doe #2 not talking to the media, but I know you spoke with their lawyer What can you tell me about what he said and what’s being alleged here?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\n\u003c/p>\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Tyche Hendricks \u003c/strong>[00:06:26] So I spoke with Khaled Alrabe, who is a Berkeley-based attorney with the National Immigration Project. He’s representing both of these students who filed suits. To be clear, these are not class action suits that would cover lots of other people as well. 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The State Department did send a statement that said they have zero tolerance for non-citizens who violate U.S. laws, quote, those who break the law, including students, may face visa refusal, visa revocation, and or deportation. And they also said that they revoke visas every day and that they do it in order to keep America safe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Alan Montecillo \u003c/strong>[00:08:46] Tyche, another part of this story, of course, is the role of universities themselves. What are these schools doing or not doing as their students are having visas revoked or are even facing deportation, possibly?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003cstrong>Tyche Hendricks \u003c/strong>[00:08:59] Public universities have to comply with California’s law about protecting people’s information, and they are clear that they’re going to do that. They also have legal resources available for immigrant students. But beyond that, they’ve been pretty circumspect, I would say. And they haven’t been willing to talk to me or the press generally because they are under a lot of pressure, Alan. The Trump administration has suspended or halted research grants that are, you know, federal funds that go to a lot of universities. 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