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But the cartels keep getting more creative in making tunnels, and he said he wants to make sure the U.S. gets more creative in finding them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You can’t go to Walmart and buy those things -- so that’s what we’re working on actively right now,” Lenoir said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Galvez Tunnel Remains Open\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>About 90 feet under Otay Mesa, footsteps from the \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2015/12/12/459502959/the-bridge-above-the-border-new-pathway-links-tijuana-and-san-diego\">Cross Border Xpress bridge\u003c/a> that connects San Diego and Tijuana, lies a drug tunnel about 6 feet high and 4 feet wide, with lighting and ventilation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is called the Galvez Tunnel. Unlike most tunnels discovered in the U.S., this one was left partly open to train the Tunnel Rats. It used to have a rail system for transporting cocaine, marijuana and other drugs. U.S. investigators found the tunnel before it was finished.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a recent Monday, the Tunnel Rats opened it up to give reporters a tour. Lenoir wore a tan shirt with an illustrated cartoon rat on the back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is like the Cadillac of tunnels,” he said, placing a hand on the sandstone walls, which did not require shoring with cement because they were naturally stable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite the tunnel’s sophistication, tool marks along the walls show it was made with a mere hammer drill, like most tunnels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Pure manual labor. Blood, sweat and tears,” Lenoir said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Cartels Get Creative\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Some of the most creative elements of drug tunnels involve the way cartels disguise the entry and exit points. The Galvez Tunnel is a good example of that creativity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This one in particular was hid under a bathroom floor that actually raised and lowered to get in and out. We’ve seen elevators, bona fide elevators with up and down buttons, everything but the music,” Lenoir said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11573273\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11573273\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel-800x449.jpg\" alt=\"A pile of sandbags in the Galvez Tunnel mark the point where it was sealed with concrete.\" width=\"800\" height=\"449\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel-375x210.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel-520x292.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A pile of sandbags in the Galvez Tunnel mark the point where it was sealed with concrete. \u003ccite>(Matthew Bowler/KPBS)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>For ventilation, criminal groups often utilize things like leaf blowers and floor dryers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My personal favorite is the bounce house blower,” Lenoir said. “Very ingenious.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The creativity of the tunnels is consistent with Mexican drug cartels’ way of overcoming the border fence above-ground -- using catapults, drones and ladders to get the drugs across, for example.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The cartels are always trying to innovate and respond to challenges in exactly the same way that any other business does,” said Tom Wainwright,\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Narconomics-How-Run-Drug-Cartel/dp/1610395832\"> author of \"Narconomics,\"\u003c/a> and Britain editor for The Economist. “The message seems to be that whatever technology is used on the U.S. side, the cartels are going to counter with technology of their own.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jose Manuel Valenzuela, an investigator for the Mexican border research institute El Colegio de la Frontera Norte, said he does not think tunnel detection technology will ever be good enough to prevent the problem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the U.S. and Mexican governments really want to stop drug tunnels, Valenzuela said, they need to chase the massive profits they generate -- in the banks. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Under the corrugated steel plates that divide the U.S. and Mexico in Otay Mesa, dozens of clandestine cross-border tunnels slash through the soil.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As President Trump looks to \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/05/24/529904884/president-trumps-big-wall-is-now-just-74-miles-long-in-his-budget-plan\">build new barriers\u003c/a> along the border, criminal organizations in Mexico are improving the tunnels they use to smuggle people and drugs under the border fence -- making them smaller and maintaining a high level of sophistication, featuring electricity and railways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Smuggling tunnels vary in shape and size, but generally fall under one of these three categories, according to U.S. Border Patrol:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Rudimentary tunnels\u003c/strong>, or “gopher holes,” are cheaply made and stretch short distances, maybe 50 feet. They are used to smuggle humans or small quantities of drugs under the border.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Interconnecting tunnels\u003c/strong> exploit existing municipal infrastructure, linking up with storm drains and sewer lines. They are used to smuggle humans and drugs under the border.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cstrong>Sophisticated tunnels\u003c/strong> can stretch for long distances (\u003ca href=\"http://www.kpbs.org/news/2016/apr/20/another-otay-mesa-drug-tunnel-discovered/\">the longest ever found\u003c/a> was equivalent to the length of eight football fields) and are often equipped with lighting, electricity, ventilation, water pumps, railways and more. They are used to move large volumes of drugs under the border.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>In San Diego, tunnels are\u003ca href=\"http://www.kpbs.org/news/2013/oct/31/sophisticated-cross-border-tunnel-discovered-otay-/\"> usually sophisticated\u003c/a>, partly because of the highly organized criminal organization operating in Baja California -- the Sinaloa Cartel -- as well as the characteristics of Otay Mesa, a neighborhood that exists on both sides of the border. In the U.S. and in Mexico, Otay Mesa is crowded with warehouses, providing numerous spaces to hide tunnel entry and exit points.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/AvQx_s2vMd8'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/AvQx_s2vMd8'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to the U.S. Border Patrol, in the past three decades, 29 of the 62 sophisticated tunnels that have been found along the U.S.-Mexico border were in the San Diego sector. Meanwhile, of the 197 total tunnels discovered along the border, 62 were in the San Diego sector. These figures exclude about 100 unfinished tunnels found on the Mexican side of the border.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Drug tunnels began to proliferate in response to increased border security, particularly border fence construction launched in the 1990s, according to U.S. and Mexican researchers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The more sophisticated our border infrastructure has become, the more the smugglers have upped their game,” said David Shirk, director of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.sandiego.edu/peace/institutes/tbi/\">Trans-Border Institute\u003c/a> at the University of San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shirk said cartels are going as far as consulting with top engineers in Europe to perfect their tunnel architecture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And they have every incentive to do so. If it costs $1 million to make a tunnel like that, they can make that back on the first run,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Drug seizures in tunnels are often in the multimillion-dollar range, which suggests that cartels are making hundreds of millions of dollars on these tunnels.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The 'Tunnel Rats' Get to Work\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Lance Lenoir is captain of Border Patrol’s five-person tunnel entry team, known as the Tunnel Rats. When a tunnel is discovered with an exit in the U.S., the Tunnel Rats get to work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“What we do is assess the tunnel, characterize it, go in, pull out evidence, map it, get rid of it,” Lenoir said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11573266\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11573266\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/LanceLenoir-800x449.jpg\" alt=\"Lance Lenoir of Border Patrol stands inside Galvez Tunnel, June 12, 2017.\" width=\"800\" height=\"449\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/LanceLenoir.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/LanceLenoir-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/LanceLenoir-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/LanceLenoir-375x210.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/LanceLenoir-520x292.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lance Lenoir of Border Patrol stands inside Galvez Tunnel, June 12, 2017. \u003ccite>(Matthew Bowler/KPBS)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>By “get rid of it,” Lenoir means they fill the tunnel with cement on the U.S. side of the border -- what Border Patrol calls “remediation” of the tunnel. The tunnels often remain open on the Mexican side.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lenoir said the sophisticated tunnels centered around San Diego are becoming narrower and harder to detect -- ranging anywhere from 36 inches to less than 4 feet in diameter.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So far, the most reliable method of detection has been what Lenoir called “good old-fashioned police work,” with officials pursuing leads from informants who notice suspicious jackhammer sounds, large piles of dirt, or people coming and going at unusual hours. But U.S. federal agencies are now seeking to improve tunnel detection technologies.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Tunnel Detection Technology 'Lacking'\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>“We need to bring the technology piece. Right now, it’s lacking,” Lenoir said. “I mean we’re talking about a niche problem that doesn’t have any parallel to commercial or industry standard.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Existing technology -- ranging from ground-penetrating radar to sensors that detect changes in microgravity -- gets thrown off by surface clutter and noise, and there is a lot of cross-border traffic in this area. Radio and electromagnetic interference is another problem. Heterogeneous geology along the U.S.-Mexico border -- a mix of porous, sandy and rocky -- also makes it hard to see what is underground.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/blC2tYPZHJ8'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/blC2tYPZHJ8'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Lenoir said he does not know if plans to expand the border fence will affect tunneling. But the cartels keep getting more creative in making tunnels, and he said he wants to make sure the U.S. gets more creative in finding them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You can’t go to Walmart and buy those things -- so that’s what we’re working on actively right now,” Lenoir said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>The Galvez Tunnel Remains Open\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>About 90 feet under Otay Mesa, footsteps from the \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2015/12/12/459502959/the-bridge-above-the-border-new-pathway-links-tijuana-and-san-diego\">Cross Border Xpress bridge\u003c/a> that connects San Diego and Tijuana, lies a drug tunnel about 6 feet high and 4 feet wide, with lighting and ventilation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It is called the Galvez Tunnel. Unlike most tunnels discovered in the U.S., this one was left partly open to train the Tunnel Rats. It used to have a rail system for transporting cocaine, marijuana and other drugs. U.S. investigators found the tunnel before it was finished.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a recent Monday, the Tunnel Rats opened it up to give reporters a tour. Lenoir wore a tan shirt with an illustrated cartoon rat on the back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is like the Cadillac of tunnels,” he said, placing a hand on the sandstone walls, which did not require shoring with cement because they were naturally stable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite the tunnel’s sophistication, tool marks along the walls show it was made with a mere hammer drill, like most tunnels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Pure manual labor. Blood, sweat and tears,” Lenoir said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Cartels Get Creative\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>Some of the most creative elements of drug tunnels involve the way cartels disguise the entry and exit points. The Galvez Tunnel is a good example of that creativity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This one in particular was hid under a bathroom floor that actually raised and lowered to get in and out. We’ve seen elevators, bona fide elevators with up and down buttons, everything but the music,” Lenoir said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11573273\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11573273\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel-800x449.jpg\" alt=\"A pile of sandbags in the Galvez Tunnel mark the point where it was sealed with concrete.\" width=\"800\" height=\"449\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel-375x210.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/07/SandbagsTunnel-520x292.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A pile of sandbags in the Galvez Tunnel mark the point where it was sealed with concrete. \u003ccite>(Matthew Bowler/KPBS)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>For ventilation, criminal groups often utilize things like leaf blowers and floor dryers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My personal favorite is the bounce house blower,” Lenoir said. “Very ingenious.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The creativity of the tunnels is consistent with Mexican drug cartels’ way of overcoming the border fence above-ground -- using catapults, drones and ladders to get the drugs across, for example.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The cartels are always trying to innovate and respond to challenges in exactly the same way that any other business does,” said Tom Wainwright,\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Narconomics-How-Run-Drug-Cartel/dp/1610395832\"> author of \"Narconomics,\"\u003c/a> and Britain editor for The Economist. “The message seems to be that whatever technology is used on the U.S. side, the cartels are going to counter with technology of their own.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jose Manuel Valenzuela, an investigator for the Mexican border research institute El Colegio de la Frontera Norte, said he does not think tunnel detection technology will ever be good enough to prevent the problem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the U.S. and Mexican governments really want to stop drug tunnels, Valenzuela said, they need to chase the massive profits they generate -- in the banks. 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Marshall is a dual citizen, and splits his time between projects on both sides of the border.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brian Holley lives in San Diego and is the vice president of \u003ca href=\"http://vscenario.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">vScenario\u003c/a>, one of the companies that recently bid on the Trump administration’s border wall project.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We invited the two to have a discussion in the heart of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.sdparks.org/content/sdparks/en/park-pages/TJRVRP.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tijuana River Valley\u003c/a>. They sat in a parked car in the Tijuana Community Garden along a quiet street lined with ranches, a mile from the actual border. They talked about their hopes for the region, and found they agreed on more than they thought they would.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11490862\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11490862\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/06/borderwalltwo-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Brian Holley (L), and Miguel Marshall meet one mile away from the U.S.-Mexico border to talk about how President Trump's proposed border wall affects both of their businesses. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Brian Holley (L), and Miguel Marshall meet 1 mile away from the U.S.-Mexico border to talk about how President Trump's proposed border wall affects both of their businesses. \u003ccite>(Erin Siegal McIntyre/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003ch3>On the need for border security:\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Brian\u003c/strong>: I do think it's important for the U.S. and Mexico to upgrade the border security and the wall. 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"content": "\u003cp>By the time bidding closed Tuesday, there was no lack of companies competing to build the wall President Trump has proposed for the border between the U.S. and Mexico. In fact, \u003ca href=\"http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BORDER_WALL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-04-04-10-05-14\">by The Associated Press' count\u003c/a>, upwards of 200 organizations had expressed interest in designing and building it for \u003ca href=\"https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-requests-proposals-border-wall-prototypes\">Customs and Border Protection\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite their common goal, the companies submitting bids have followed some radically different paths in their approach.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among the submissions are walls with solar panels, wire mesh and sloped, slippery surfaces. There are even walls that are no walls at all — statements standing instead as protests of a policy that from the start has \u003ca href=\"http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/24/most-americans-continue-to-oppose-u-s-border-wall-doubt-mexico-would-pay-for-it/\">drawn a lot of resistance\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/04/522652528/bids-for-trump-s-border-wall-are-due-today\">As NPR's Richard Gonzales reports\u003c/a>, the CBP plans to announce the finalists for the contract in June, at which point the companies still in the running would be expected to build a prototype roughly 30 feet long and anywhere from18 to 30 feet tall. The AP notes the prototypes are expected to cost about $200,000 to $500,000 each; estimates for the cost of the wall covering the 2,000-mile border, however, range \u003ca href=\"https://www.technologyreview.com/s/602494/bad-math-props-up-trumps-border-wall/\">up to $38 billion\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here's a glimpse of just a few of the designs vying to stand between the U.S. and Mexico, complete with renderings and explanations of how they could take shape.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>The WireWall\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393681\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/u_s_mexico_border_fence_in_ca-068b3f8b2ca0deddb502484ddf8a516ee84e313e-800x600.jpg\" alt='The WireWall fence now in place in California on the border with Mexico. Riverdale Mills says the fence is produced using the same manufacturing process as its \"marquee marine wire mesh\" designed for lobster traps used in New England.' width=\"800\" height=\"600\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393681\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/u_s_mexico_border_fence_in_ca-068b3f8b2ca0deddb502484ddf8a516ee84e313e-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/u_s_mexico_border_fence_in_ca-068b3f8b2ca0deddb502484ddf8a516ee84e313e-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/u_s_mexico_border_fence_in_ca-068b3f8b2ca0deddb502484ddf8a516ee84e313e-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/u_s_mexico_border_fence_in_ca-068b3f8b2ca0deddb502484ddf8a516ee84e313e-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/u_s_mexico_border_fence_in_ca-068b3f8b2ca0deddb502484ddf8a516ee84e313e-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/u_s_mexico_border_fence_in_ca-068b3f8b2ca0deddb502484ddf8a516ee84e313e-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/u_s_mexico_border_fence_in_ca-068b3f8b2ca0deddb502484ddf8a516ee84e313e-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/u_s_mexico_border_fence_in_ca-068b3f8b2ca0deddb502484ddf8a516ee84e313e-520x390.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/u_s_mexico_border_fence_in_ca-068b3f8b2ca0deddb502484ddf8a516ee84e313e.jpg 1587w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The WireWall fence now in place in California on the border with Mexico. Riverdale Mills says the fence is produced using the same manufacturing process as its \"marquee marine wire mesh\" designed for lobster traps used in New England. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Riverdale Mills)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The proposal from \u003ca href=\"https://riverdale.com/\">Riverdale Mills Corporation\u003c/a> employs wire mesh, which is already used along the Mexican border with California and Arizona. Riverdale says the material can be manufactured up to 20 feet tall and installed up to 6 feet below ground, to prevent tunneling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The configurations of the wire mesh make it virtually impossible to climb or cut,\" Jane Meehan Lanzillo, director of corporate communications for Riverdale, tells NPR in an email.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Solar Panels\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393691\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"This rendering depicts solar panels snaking along the border. Gleason Partners, the company behind the proposal, believes that the energy provided by the panels would offer the U.S. a financial boon.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393691\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-520x292.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">This rendering depicts solar panels snaking along the border. Gleason Partners, the company behind the proposal, believes that the energy provided by the panels would offer the U.S. a financial boon. \u003ccite>(Gleason Partners)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"I like the wall to be able to pay for itself,\" Thomas Gleason, managing partner of \u003ca href=\"http://www.strutchannelfittings.com/About-Us_ep_7.html\">Gleason Partners LLC\u003c/a>, tells the AP.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company's proposal sets solar panels on sections of the wall, generating what it says would be approximately 2.0 megawatts of electricity per hour, according to the wire service.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Maximum-Security Wire Mesh\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393682\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/final-rendering-9b-_custom-bc72a54d44aabccc8d0e1156d34618ce0b7148ba-800x521.jpg\" alt=\"The Penna Group rendering, which displays two groups on either side watching each other through the mesh.\" width=\"800\" height=\"521\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393682\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Penna Group rendering, which displays two groups on either side watching each other through the mesh. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the Penna Group)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Composed of high-density steel packed into double wire mesh, the Penna Group's proposed wall takes its cue from maximum security prisons. \"Nearly impossible to climb,\" it would also be built to withstand pick axes, acetylene torches and other handheld weapons, with the first 12 feet of its 30-foot height packed more densely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Michael Evangelista-Ysasaga, CEO of the Penna Group, speaks to the aesthetics of the U.S.-facing side of the wall, telling NPR \"the wire mesh panels will be emblazoned with the Seal of the United States.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>The Security Curtain Wall\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393683\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-800x662.jpg\" alt=\"Between its sloped surface and the walkway near the top, the security curtain wall aims to make climbing an impossible task for those seeking to cross the border.\" width=\"800\" height=\"662\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393683\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-800x662.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-160x132.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-1020x845.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-1180x977.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-960x795.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-240x199.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-375x311.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-520x431.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6.jpg 1547w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Between its sloped surface and the walkway near the top, the security curtain wall aims to make climbing an impossible task for those seeking to cross the border. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of San Diego Project Management)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>With its face pitched at an angle, the proposed wall put forth by \u003ca href=\"https://sdpmpsc.sharepoint.com/Pages/default.aspx\">San Diego Project Management, PSC\u003c/a>, borrows medieval concepts to give to give guards a better view of possible \"villains\" approaching the wall — and with its walkway toward the top, it gives those guards a place to patrol from a height.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The surface finish on the south side of the wall is of the same quality as the finish on a smooth floor slab,\" Patrick J. Balcazar, principal and managing partner at SDPM, writes in his proposal. \"Smooth surface on the glacis [sloped] and [vertical] surfaces make climbing harder, and there are no handholds.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Hadrian's Wall\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393684\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/img_1897-48dbfac4be0a1957afb5f260e6e793b1b7819d69-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Hadrian Construction Company's wall, here modeled in miniature, would be paneled according to its Tridipanel system.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393684\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hadrian Construction Company's wall, here modeled in miniature, would be paneled according to its Tridipanel system. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Hadrian Construction Company)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It's impossible to avoid: For a man bidding to build a massive wall, Rod Hadrian has a rather serendipitous name. Namesake of the Roman emperor who built the wall that once marked off the northernmost edge of the ancient empire — the wall that \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/08/30/344031401/the-wall-that-defined-scotlands-past-and-the-vote-on-its-future\">still stands in ruins\u003c/a> in the U.K. today — Hadrian Construction Company has proposed a wall constructed in prefabricated panels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.tridipanel.com/\">Its Tridipanel design\u003c/a> makes for something of a zig-zag shape, which he says would create a 30-foot wall that's at once lightweight and strong.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Adorned With Decoration\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393694\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-800x599.jpg\" alt=\"This is a close-up rendering of the iCON Wall Solution by Concrete Contractors Interstate. Between the polish and the stones, the company behind this proposal wants to make it as easy on the eyes as it is hard to cross.\" width=\"800\" height=\"599\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393694\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-800x599.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-1020x764.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-1180x884.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-960x719.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-520x390.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">This is a close-up rendering of the iCON Wall Solution by Concrete Contractors Interstate. Between the polish and the stones, the company behind this proposal wants to make it as easy on the eyes as it is hard to cross.\u003cbr> \u003ccite>(iCON Wall Solution by Single Eagle dba Concrete Contractors Interstate)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The border wall should be \"a piece of art,\" Russ Baumgartner, CEO of \u003ca href=\"http://www.seicci.com/\">Concrete Contractors Interstate\u003c/a> of San Diego, tells the AP. The wire service says the company's proposal calls for stones and artifacts set in polished concrete, reflecting the areas the wall wends through and rendering both sides \"aesthetically pleasing\" — unlike the CBP's callout, which asks only that the U.S. side be pleasant to look at.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Above, you can see a detail of the kind of decorative stones Baumgartner has in mind.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>The Wall To End All Walls\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393680\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ground-view-near-hyperloop02-web-03f33002b1140ea02a122aa11f808de83a4ec8ff-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Quite unlike the other proposals on this list, the Otra Nation concept condemns barriers altogether. Rather than impede movement between regions, its hyperloop transit system would accelerate travel, effectively rendering the border moot.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393680\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Quite unlike the other proposals on this list, the Otra Nation concept condemns barriers altogether. Rather than impede movement between regions, its hyperloop transit system would accelerate travel, effectively rendering the border moot. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Otra Nation)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It is reasonable to conclude that this proposal is not exactly what Trump has in mind for his signature campaign promise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We propose a trans-national 'New Deal' to build an innovative shared co-nation based on local economic empowerment, energy independence and revolutionary infrastructure and transit,\" says the \u003ca href=\"http://www.otranation.com/team\">MADE Collective\u003c/a>, a cross-disciplinary team that argues for the creation of what it calls \u003ca href=\"http://www.otranation.com/features/background\">the Otra Nation\u003c/a> — a \"regenerative co-nation shared by citizens of both Mexico and the United Stated and co-maintained by respective governments.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Far from a boundary between two states, the Otra Nation proposal envisions the construction of a \u003ca href=\"http://www.otranation.com/features/hyperloop-transit\">hyperloop transit system\u003c/a> and the rights to \u003ca href=\"http://www.otranation.com/features/otra-id\">cross open borders\u003c/a> of the three North American countries without impediment.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>The Wall Of Sound\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>https://www.instagram.com/p/BSM38HQgSLG/\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of at least three protest proposals ginned up by \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/jmeridian.studio/\">J.M. Design Studio\u003c/a> of Pittsburgh, this one calls for \"a semi-continuous wall of nearly 10 million pipe organs.\" The long line of 30-foot organs breaks in regular intervals, offering border-crossers the opportunity to walk straight through — but not before playing a ditty of their choosing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jennifer Meridian — an artist who says Trump's actual border wall is \"preposterous for so many reasons,\" \u003ca href=\"http://www.wsj.com/graphics/trump-mexico-wall-bid-examples/\">according to the Wall Street Journal\u003c/a> — also proposes a wall of hammocks and a wall of refugees' gravestones for passersby to \"consider the danger, terror, and horror they must have faced in trying to cross.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">Copyright 2017 NPR. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The configurations of the wire mesh make it virtually impossible to climb or cut,\" Jane Meehan Lanzillo, director of corporate communications for Riverdale, tells NPR in an email.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Solar Panels\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393691\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"This rendering depicts solar panels snaking along the border. Gleason Partners, the company behind the proposal, believes that the energy provided by the panels would offer the U.S. a financial boon.\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393691\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85-520x292.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ap_17094728697212_custom-a39b32b4296017ed445e59904fe97b339354e1d4-s1300-c85.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">This rendering depicts solar panels snaking along the border. Gleason Partners, the company behind the proposal, believes that the energy provided by the panels would offer the U.S. a financial boon. \u003ccite>(Gleason Partners)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"I like the wall to be able to pay for itself,\" Thomas Gleason, managing partner of \u003ca href=\"http://www.strutchannelfittings.com/About-Us_ep_7.html\">Gleason Partners LLC\u003c/a>, tells the AP.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The company's proposal sets solar panels on sections of the wall, generating what it says would be approximately 2.0 megawatts of electricity per hour, according to the wire service.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>Maximum-Security Wire Mesh\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393682\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/final-rendering-9b-_custom-bc72a54d44aabccc8d0e1156d34618ce0b7148ba-800x521.jpg\" alt=\"The Penna Group rendering, which displays two groups on either side watching each other through the mesh.\" width=\"800\" height=\"521\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393682\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Penna Group rendering, which displays two groups on either side watching each other through the mesh. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of the Penna Group)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Composed of high-density steel packed into double wire mesh, the Penna Group's proposed wall takes its cue from maximum security prisons. \"Nearly impossible to climb,\" it would also be built to withstand pick axes, acetylene torches and other handheld weapons, with the first 12 feet of its 30-foot height packed more densely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Michael Evangelista-Ysasaga, CEO of the Penna Group, speaks to the aesthetics of the U.S.-facing side of the wall, telling NPR \"the wire mesh panels will be emblazoned with the Seal of the United States.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>The Security Curtain Wall\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393683\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-800x662.jpg\" alt=\"Between its sloped surface and the walkway near the top, the security curtain wall aims to make climbing an impossible task for those seeking to cross the border.\" width=\"800\" height=\"662\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393683\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-800x662.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-160x132.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-1020x845.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-1180x977.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-960x795.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-240x199.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-375x311.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6-520x431.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/2a_custom-46f4270c2e995f97b1768becce4e3a84dba163d6.jpg 1547w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Between its sloped surface and the walkway near the top, the security curtain wall aims to make climbing an impossible task for those seeking to cross the border. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of San Diego Project Management)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>With its face pitched at an angle, the proposed wall put forth by \u003ca href=\"https://sdpmpsc.sharepoint.com/Pages/default.aspx\">San Diego Project Management, PSC\u003c/a>, borrows medieval concepts to give to give guards a better view of possible \"villains\" approaching the wall — and with its walkway toward the top, it gives those guards a place to patrol from a height.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The surface finish on the south side of the wall is of the same quality as the finish on a smooth floor slab,\" Patrick J. Balcazar, principal and managing partner at SDPM, writes in his proposal. \"Smooth surface on the glacis [sloped] and [vertical] surfaces make climbing harder, and there are no handholds.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Hadrian's Wall\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393684\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/img_1897-48dbfac4be0a1957afb5f260e6e793b1b7819d69-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Hadrian Construction Company's wall, here modeled in miniature, would be paneled according to its Tridipanel system.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393684\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hadrian Construction Company's wall, here modeled in miniature, would be paneled according to its Tridipanel system. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Hadrian Construction Company)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It's impossible to avoid: For a man bidding to build a massive wall, Rod Hadrian has a rather serendipitous name. Namesake of the Roman emperor who built the wall that once marked off the northernmost edge of the ancient empire — the wall that \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/08/30/344031401/the-wall-that-defined-scotlands-past-and-the-vote-on-its-future\">still stands in ruins\u003c/a> in the U.K. today — Hadrian Construction Company has proposed a wall constructed in prefabricated panels.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.tridipanel.com/\">Its Tridipanel design\u003c/a> makes for something of a zig-zag shape, which he says would create a 30-foot wall that's at once lightweight and strong.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Adorned With Decoration\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393694\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-800x599.jpg\" alt=\"This is a close-up rendering of the iCON Wall Solution by Concrete Contractors Interstate. Between the polish and the stones, the company behind this proposal wants to make it as easy on the eyes as it is hard to cross.\" width=\"800\" height=\"599\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393694\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-800x599.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-1020x764.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-1180x884.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-960x719.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned-520x390.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/Adorned.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">This is a close-up rendering of the iCON Wall Solution by Concrete Contractors Interstate. Between the polish and the stones, the company behind this proposal wants to make it as easy on the eyes as it is hard to cross.\u003cbr> \u003ccite>(iCON Wall Solution by Single Eagle dba Concrete Contractors Interstate)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The border wall should be \"a piece of art,\" Russ Baumgartner, CEO of \u003ca href=\"http://www.seicci.com/\">Concrete Contractors Interstate\u003c/a> of San Diego, tells the AP. The wire service says the company's proposal calls for stones and artifacts set in polished concrete, reflecting the areas the wall wends through and rendering both sides \"aesthetically pleasing\" — unlike the CBP's callout, which asks only that the U.S. side be pleasant to look at.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Above, you can see a detail of the kind of decorative stones Baumgartner has in mind.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>\u003cstrong>The Wall To End All Walls\u003c/strong>\u003c/h3>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11393680\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/04/ground-view-near-hyperloop02-web-03f33002b1140ea02a122aa11f808de83a4ec8ff-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Quite unlike the other proposals on this list, the Otra Nation concept condemns barriers altogether. Rather than impede movement between regions, its hyperloop transit system would accelerate travel, effectively rendering the border moot.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11393680\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Quite unlike the other proposals on this list, the Otra Nation concept condemns barriers altogether. Rather than impede movement between regions, its hyperloop transit system would accelerate travel, effectively rendering the border moot. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Otra Nation)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>It is reasonable to conclude that this proposal is not exactly what Trump has in mind for his signature campaign promise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We propose a trans-national 'New Deal' to build an innovative shared co-nation based on local economic empowerment, energy independence and revolutionary infrastructure and transit,\" says the \u003ca href=\"http://www.otranation.com/team\">MADE Collective\u003c/a>, a cross-disciplinary team that argues for the creation of what it calls \u003ca href=\"http://www.otranation.com/features/background\">the Otra Nation\u003c/a> — a \"regenerative co-nation shared by citizens of both Mexico and the United Stated and co-maintained by respective governments.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Far from a boundary between two states, the Otra Nation proposal envisions the construction of a \u003ca href=\"http://www.otranation.com/features/hyperloop-transit\">hyperloop transit system\u003c/a> and the rights to \u003ca href=\"http://www.otranation.com/features/otra-id\">cross open borders\u003c/a> of the three North American countries without impediment.\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>The Wall Of Sound\u003c/h3>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Liz Derr is co-founder of \u003ca href=\"http://simularity.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Simularity\u003c/a>, an East Bay artificial intelligence software company based in Richmond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We essentially look for patterns ... in massive amounts of data,” Derr says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She says their software can analyze all kinds of data, like imagery from satellites and drones and vibrations from sensors, which she says could be useful along the border.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It can tell the difference between a four-legged coyote and a two-legged coyote that is smuggling people,\" Derr says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She says she actually doesn’t support building a border wall. But if it’s going to happen, she says, the government should be smart about it and build a virtual one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s our taxpayer dollars,” Derr says. “It’s ridiculous in my mind to go build this giant wall for billions of dollars when we can do something better for much less money.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11371415\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11371415 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_2913-800x600.jpg\" alt=\"Liz Durr, co-founder of Richmond- based Simularity showing how her company's software could help secure the U.S- Mexico border.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_2913-800x600.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_2913-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_2913-1020x765.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_2913-1920x1440.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_2913-1180x885.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_2913-960x720.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_2913-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_2913-375x281.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_2913-520x390.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Liz Derr, co-founder of Richmond-based Simularity, shows how her company's software could help secure the U.S.-Mexico border. \u003ccite>(Tara Siler/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But there are plenty of companies interested in building a giant concrete wall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My wall design actually goes underneath the ground so you can't dig under it,” says James Flanagan, head of\u003ca href=\"http://www.jkflanagan.com/home.html\" target=\"_blank\"> JK Flanagan\u003c/a>, a small structural construction company based in San Francisco. He says his precast concrete slabs could be put up by crane along the border.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Flanagan is a strong Trump supporter who is critical of what he says is lax immigration enforcement. He says he wants to be involved in building the wall to be part of history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So 10-20 years down the road you can say, 'Hey, I was a part of that,' ” Flanagan says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He says he’s hoping one of the big construction companies that have a better chance of landing a contract for the wall will sub out a little piece to him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Carolyne Shearer from Alameda is also looking for a small part of the action. She specializes in writing proposals for companies that bid on federal contracts. She signed up on the government's Business Opportunities website, though she doesn't support Trump's wall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If he's serious, and he's actually going to try and build this thing, that's going to be an immense amount of work, and you would have to be sort of an idiot not to at least put yourself on the list,” Shearer says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The wall project appears to be on a very fast track. Proposals are due by next Wednesday. Those selected will then have to construct mockup walls in San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\u003cp>After the thrashing California voters gave Donald Trump in the November presidential election, they show no signs of warming up to him now that he’s president.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a new \u003ca href=\"http://www.ppic.org/main/publication.asp?i=1230\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">survey\u003c/a> by the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), about a third of Californians (31 percent of all adults, 35 percent of likely voters) approve of the job Trump is doing as president. That’s up 1 percent poll \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/02/09/survey-30-percent-of-californians-approve-of-trumps-job-performance/\">from the last PPIC survey\u003c/a> in February.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Or, as \u003ca href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/We-re-dying-at-the-box-office-Schwarzenegger-2505307.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Arnold Schwarzenegger might say\u003c/a>, “you’re dying at the box office.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not surprisingly, attitudes toward Trump break sharply along party lines, with 82 percent of Republicans approving of the president’s performance, while 91 percent of Democrats and 57 percent of independents disapprove.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nearly 60 percent of Californians asked disapprove when it comes to Trump’s signature issues: building a wall by the Mexican border (72 percent disapprove) and banning travel from six mostly Muslim countries (58 percent disapprove).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Trump’s overall tone on immigrants isn’t resonating with Californians, said survey director Mark Baldassare.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Californians feel that undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. should have a chance to apply for citizenship, they should be allowed to stay, and there’s very little support for requiring that undocumented immigrants leave the country,” said Baldassare. “As far as Californians are concerned, that issue was settled quite a while ago.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, the PPIC survey found that 68 percent of Californians surveyed think undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. should be allowed to stay and eventually apply for citizenship — even 46 percent of Republicans in California agree with that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11371583\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 395px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11371583\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/PPIC_Undocumented_March-qut.jpg\" alt=\"A new survey by the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC) finds that 68 percent of Californians think undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. should be allowed to stay and eventually apply for citizenship.\" width=\"395\" height=\"329\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/PPIC_Undocumented_March-qut.jpg 395w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/PPIC_Undocumented_March-qut-160x133.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/PPIC_Undocumented_March-qut-240x200.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/PPIC_Undocumented_March-qut-375x312.jpg 375w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 395px) 100vw, 395px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A new survey by the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC) finds that 68 percent of Californians think undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. should be allowed to stay and eventually apply for citizenship. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of PPIC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>President Trump’s positions on a wide range of issues “aren’t consistent with where Californians are today,” said Baldassare.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>California officials are viewed much more favorably, with 61 percent of likely voters in the state giving Jerry Brown a thumbs up for the job he’s doing as governor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The governor fares better than the state’s two U.S. senators. Fifty-one percent of likely voters approve of the job Sen. Dianne Feinstein is doing, with 39 percent disapproving. (Note: The poll was conducted before Feinstein’s high-profile role in the confirmation hearings for Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, freshman Sen. Kamala Harris wins approval from 49 percent of likely voters, while 25 percent say they don’t know enough to have an opinion.\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>It’s the year 2019. President Trump may or may not still be the president. His immigration policies, however, have been carried out — to an extreme. And at least one person is paying the price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s the backdrop of playwright Robert Schenkkan’s latest stage work, “\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0vV_aJ2xzA&feature=youtu.be\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Building the Wall\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We first meet Rick, played by Bo Foxworth, inside a federal lockup. He’s a military veteran who grew up in Texas. Now he’s a prisoner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t have anybody to talk to in here,” he says to the play’s other main protagonist, Gloria, played by Judith Moreland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’re in solitary, yes?” asks Gloria.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For my own protection,” responds Rick.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11363907\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11363907\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Bo Foxworth and Judith Moreland star in the L.A. staging of Building the Wall. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-960x640.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-520x347.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bo Foxworth and Judith Moreland star in the L.A. staging of “Building the Wall.” \u003ccite>(Ed Krieger / Fountain Theatre)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Rick used to work in a place just like this: a private prison on the Tex-Mex border housing scores of immigrants rounded up under the Trump administration. He was the warden, and some very bad things happened on his watch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s nothing really extraordinary about him except the circumstances in which he finds himself and the choices he sadly makes,” says\u003ca href=\"http://www.robertschenkkan.com/\"> Schenkkan\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11363910\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11363910\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-800x511.jpg\" alt=\"Playwright Robert Schenkkan \" width=\"800\" height=\"511\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-800x511.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-160x102.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-1020x651.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-1180x754.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-960x613.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-240x153.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-375x239.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-520x332.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016.jpg 1666w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Playwright Robert Schenkkan \u003ccite>(Robert Schenkkan )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Like the character of Rick, Schenkkan also grew up in Texas. He is probably best known for his \u003ca href=\"http://www.pulitzer.org/winners/robert-schenkkan\">Pulitzer Prize\u003c/a>-winning saga, “The Kentucky Cycle,” and for screenwriting credits that include films like “The Quiet American” and 2016’s Academy Award-nominated “Hacksaw Ridge” — projects that typically have long gestation and production periods. To find more exciting stories that you can read online, you may explore sites like \u003ca href=\"https://my-drama.com/\">my-drama.com\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Schenkkan says “Building the Wall” came on fast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I wrote this before the (November) election in what I describe as a white-hot fury in the space of a week,” says Schenkkan, speaking in the upstairs cafe at the \u003ca href=\"http://www.fountaintheatre.com/event/building-the-wall/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fountain Theatre\u003c/a> in Hollywood where the 90-minute play is premiering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schenkkan says he was spurred on by the anti-immigrant rhetoric and policies of Donald Trump. But it was written more as a warning, a cautionary tale that imagines what could happen if a man like Donald Trump actually became president and successfully carried out his most extreme immigration policies. But like many people, Schenkkan didn’t really think Trump would win.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unlike previous works like “The Kentucky Cycle” that require large ensemble casts, “Building the Wall” is the epitome of theater minimalism: one room, two characters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It only needed these two people,” says Schenkkan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11363979\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11363979\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Bo Foxworth and Judith Moreland star in the L.A. staging of Building the Wall.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-960x640.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bo Foxworth and Judith Moreland star in the L.A. staging of ‘Building the Wall.’ \u003ccite>(Ed Krieger / Fountain Theatre)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Out of that we feel an entire world of individuals caught up by events. But it is not necessary for us to see those events or to visit with those people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The drama revolves around Rick and a historian named Gloria, whom he’s agreed to speak with about the events that led to his conviction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We learn more about both as they question each other’s motives and beliefs. He’s white, she’s black. She didn’t support Donald Trump. He did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In one scene, Rick rapturously describes attending his first Trump campaign rally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was like being part of a wave or something. Bigger than yourself. You didn’t feel little anymore, put down anymore, shamed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Gloria wants to know: What about the violence and threats of violence that often punctuated Trump rallies?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Protesters getting beaten up?” she asks\u003cem>. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Those guys were there to provoke people and they succeeded,” snorts Rick. “The whole thing was like, I don’t know, a pro-wrestling kinda thing!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Some people got hurt,” says Gloria.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Nobody died,” says Rick.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“No,” says Gloria. “That would come later.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11363983\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11363983 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-800x534.jpg\" alt=\"building wall actors 3\" width=\"800\" height=\"534\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-960x640.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-520x347.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bo Foxworth and Judith Moreland star in the L.A. staging of ‘Building the Wall.’\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Later. Just what did happen \u003cem>later\u003c/em>?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We learn details of Rick’s crimes as the drama unfolds. His attorney told him not to testify at trial. Now he wants to set the record straight, wants to tell people he’s not some kind of monster. And apparently that he did not act alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I saw things,” says Rick gravely. “I know stuff that’ll make a lot of people look bad.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rick chooses the historian Gloria as his confessor. The atrocities are of historic proportion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Before this play is over we may still have some judgments, but we understand him in a very different way,” says director \u003ca href=\"http://www.bostoncourt.com/staff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Michael Michetti. \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Michetti jumped at the chance to work with a Robert Schenkkan script that he believes is so timely. He also says it’s not a partisan diatribe against Trump. It takes on themes of race, class and reconciliation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Robert gives a real voice to the people who we now know felt very underrepresented, and therefore they supported Trump’s candidacy and presidency,” says Michetti.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The character of Rick has to answer a very important question and that is: When is it time to say no?” says producer and Fountain Theatre artistic director \u003ca href=\"http://www.stephensachs.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Stephen Sachs\u003c/a>. “When is it time to stand up and say, ‘I will not do this. I will not follow orders.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To make room for the play’s three-month run, the Fountain Theatre preempted another previously scheduled performance. The cast and staging, like the script, were assembled fast — in a matter of weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Oh, it’s extraordinary,” says Sachs. “This does not happen.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the afternoon I visit the Fountain, the set is still being painted, actors deep in rehearsal. Schenkkan says it typically takes months, if not years, to take a work from the page to the stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It will be too late by then! American theater today has to decide: Are we curating history or we going to make history? Are we going to be involved in what is happening right now?” asks Schenkkan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This play has been designed to be the first of what I hope will be many such new paradigms for the production and creation of responsive American theater.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Building the Wall” premieres this weekend at the Fountain Theatre in Hollywood. Theaters in five other U.S. cities will stage performances of their own as part of a “rolling premiere” in collaboration with the \u003ca href=\"http://nnpn.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">National New Play Network\u003c/a>. \u003cem> \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Building the Wall” is also due to be published in book form in April.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are now aggressively licensing the play to anyone who wants to do it. Whether they want to do a production or they want to do a reading, it doesn’t matter,” says Schenkkan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You want to do this play for 20 people in your living room? God bless, go out there and do it. Let’s respond now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"color: #000000\">The National New Play Network’s “rolling world premiere” of Robert Schenkkan’s “Building the Wall”:\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"color: #000000\">Los Angeles – \u003cu style=\"color: #000000\">\u003ca style=\"color: #000000\" href=\"http://www.fountaintheatre.com/\">The Fountain Theat\u003c/a>re\u003c/u> – March 18, 2017. \u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"color: #000000\">Denver – \u003cu style=\"color: #000000\">\u003ca style=\"color: #000000\" href=\"http://curioustheatre.org/\">The Curious Theat\u003c/a>re Co.\u003c/u> – April 4. Washington, D.C. – \u003ca style=\"color: #000000\" href=\"https://forum-theatre.org/\">\u003cu>Forum Theatre/at Arena Stage\u003c/u>\u003c/a> – April 30. Santa Fe – \u003cu style=\"color: #000000\">\u003ca style=\"color: #000000\" href=\"http://adoberosetheatre.org/\">Adobe Rose Theat\u003c/a>re\u003c/u> – June 15. Tucson – \u003ca style=\"color: #000000\" href=\"http://www.robertschenkkan.com/www.borderlandstheater.org/\">\u003cu>Borderlands Theater\u003c/u>\u003c/a> – Sept. 1. Miami – \u003cu style=\"color: #000000\">\u003ca style=\"color: #000000\" href=\"https://www.citytheatre.com/\">City Theat\u003c/a>re\u003c/u> – Sept. 29\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“For my own protection,” responds Rick.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11363907\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11363907\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Bo Foxworth and Judith Moreland star in the L.A. staging of Building the Wall. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-960x640.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4-520x347.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-4.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bo Foxworth and Judith Moreland star in the L.A. staging of “Building the Wall.” \u003ccite>(Ed Krieger / Fountain Theatre)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Rick used to work in a place just like this: a private prison on the Tex-Mex border housing scores of immigrants rounded up under the Trump administration. He was the warden, and some very bad things happened on his watch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s nothing really extraordinary about him except the circumstances in which he finds himself and the choices he sadly makes,” says\u003ca href=\"http://www.robertschenkkan.com/\"> Schenkkan\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11363910\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11363910\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-800x511.jpg\" alt=\"Playwright Robert Schenkkan \" width=\"800\" height=\"511\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-800x511.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-160x102.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-1020x651.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-1180x754.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-960x613.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-240x153.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-375x239.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016-520x332.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-WALL-Schenkkan20Headshot20Batur202016.jpg 1666w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Playwright Robert Schenkkan \u003ccite>(Robert Schenkkan )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Like the character of Rick, Schenkkan also grew up in Texas. He is probably best known for his \u003ca href=\"http://www.pulitzer.org/winners/robert-schenkkan\">Pulitzer Prize\u003c/a>-winning saga, “The Kentucky Cycle,” and for screenwriting credits that include films like “The Quiet American” and 2016’s Academy Award-nominated “Hacksaw Ridge” — projects that typically have long gestation and production periods. To find more exciting stories that you can read online, you may explore sites like \u003ca href=\"https://my-drama.com/\">my-drama.com\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Schenkkan says “Building the Wall” came on fast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I wrote this before the (November) election in what I describe as a white-hot fury in the space of a week,” says Schenkkan, speaking in the upstairs cafe at the \u003ca href=\"http://www.fountaintheatre.com/event/building-the-wall/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fountain Theatre\u003c/a> in Hollywood where the 90-minute play is premiering.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Schenkkan says he was spurred on by the anti-immigrant rhetoric and policies of Donald Trump. But it was written more as a warning, a cautionary tale that imagines what could happen if a man like Donald Trump actually became president and successfully carried out his most extreme immigration policies. But like many people, Schenkkan didn’t really think Trump would win.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unlike previous works like “The Kentucky Cycle” that require large ensemble casts, “Building the Wall” is the epitome of theater minimalism: one room, two characters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It only needed these two people,” says Schenkkan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11363979\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-11363979\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Bo Foxworth and Judith Moreland star in the L.A. staging of Building the Wall.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-960x640.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/BUILDING-THE-WALL-ACTORS-2-520x347.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bo Foxworth and Judith Moreland star in the L.A. staging of ‘Building the Wall.’ \u003ccite>(Ed Krieger / Fountain Theatre)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“Out of that we feel an entire world of individuals caught up by events. But it is not necessary for us to see those events or to visit with those people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The drama revolves around Rick and a historian named Gloria, whom he’s agreed to speak with about the events that led to his conviction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We learn more about both as they question each other’s motives and beliefs. He’s white, she’s black. She didn’t support Donald Trump. He did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In one scene, Rick rapturously describes attending his first Trump campaign rally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was like being part of a wave or something. Bigger than yourself. You didn’t feel little anymore, put down anymore, shamed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Gloria wants to know: What about the violence and threats of violence that often punctuated Trump rallies?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Protesters getting beaten up?” she asks\u003cem>. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Those guys were there to provoke people and they succeeded,” snorts Rick. “The whole thing was like, I don’t know, a pro-wrestling kinda thing!”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Some people got hurt,” says Gloria.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Nobody died,” says Rick.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“No,” says Gloria. “That would come later.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11363983\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-11363983 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-800x534.jpg\" alt=\"building wall actors 3\" width=\"800\" height=\"534\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-800x534.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-960x640.jpg 960w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-240x160.jpg 240w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-375x250.jpg 375w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3-520x347.jpg 520w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/building-wall-actors-3.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bo Foxworth and Judith Moreland star in the L.A. staging of ‘Building the Wall.’\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Later. Just what did happen \u003cem>later\u003c/em>?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We learn details of Rick’s crimes as the drama unfolds. His attorney told him not to testify at trial. Now he wants to set the record straight, wants to tell people he’s not some kind of monster. And apparently that he did not act alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I saw things,” says Rick gravely. “I know stuff that’ll make a lot of people look bad.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rick chooses the historian Gloria as his confessor. The atrocities are of historic proportion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Before this play is over we may still have some judgments, but we understand him in a very different way,” says director \u003ca href=\"http://www.bostoncourt.com/staff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Michael Michetti. \u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Michetti jumped at the chance to work with a Robert Schenkkan script that he believes is so timely. He also says it’s not a partisan diatribe against Trump. It takes on themes of race, class and reconciliation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Robert gives a real voice to the people who we now know felt very underrepresented, and therefore they supported Trump’s candidacy and presidency,” says Michetti.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The character of Rick has to answer a very important question and that is: When is it time to say no?” says producer and Fountain Theatre artistic director \u003ca href=\"http://www.stephensachs.com/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Stephen Sachs\u003c/a>. “When is it time to stand up and say, ‘I will not do this. I will not follow orders.’ ”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>To make room for the play’s three-month run, the Fountain Theatre preempted another previously scheduled performance. The cast and staging, like the script, were assembled fast — in a matter of weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Oh, it’s extraordinary,” says Sachs. “This does not happen.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the afternoon I visit the Fountain, the set is still being painted, actors deep in rehearsal. Schenkkan says it typically takes months, if not years, to take a work from the page to the stage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It will be too late by then! American theater today has to decide: Are we curating history or we going to make history? Are we going to be involved in what is happening right now?” asks Schenkkan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This play has been designed to be the first of what I hope will be many such new paradigms for the production and creation of responsive American theater.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Building the Wall” premieres this weekend at the Fountain Theatre in Hollywood. Theaters in five other U.S. cities will stage performances of their own as part of a “rolling premiere” in collaboration with the \u003ca href=\"http://nnpn.org/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">National New Play Network\u003c/a>. \u003cem> \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Building the Wall” is also due to be published in book form in April.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are now aggressively licensing the play to anyone who wants to do it. Whether they want to do a production or they want to do a reading, it doesn’t matter,” says Schenkkan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You want to do this play for 20 people in your living room? God bless, go out there and do it. Let’s respond now.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cspan style=\"color: #000000\">The National New Play Network’s “rolling world premiere” of Robert Schenkkan’s “Building the Wall”:\u003c/span>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Berkeley won’t have anything to do with the construction of a U.S.-Mexico border wall, for which $4.1 billion was allocated in the budget plan released by President Trump Thursday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week the City Council voted to be the first city in the nation to “divest” from businesses involved in the construction of a border wall. On Tuesday, the council denounced Trump’s January executive order directing the construction of the wall, and directed the Peace and Justice Commission to identify companies involved in paying for, or building, the wall. Berkeley will slash any existing contracts with those businesses “as soon as practical.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"e1RLUywzTEpnCxS5g5TV3FBAOkRyAASw\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We as a community do not stand for building walls, but breaking down walls,” said Mayor Jesse Arreguin, who sponsored the item with City Council members Ben Bartlett, Lori Droste and Cheryl Davila, at the meeting. “We’re not going to stand for what I think are racist and xenophobic policies that marginalize our immigrant population.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many in the Old City Hall chamber cheered in response to the mayor’s pronouncement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s important that our values are reflected in our budgets and in our partnerships,” Bartlett said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The council agenda item stressed how damaging the wall would be to the Latino population, stating: “The City of Berkeley recognizes the harm and stigma such action causes Latino people in California and throughout the nation. We recognize that immigration has been a part of our country’s history since its founding and do not believe in demonizing people of Mexican and Latin American descent.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Arreguin is Berkeley’s first Latino mayor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The item also said building a border wall “would waste an enormous amount of taxpayer money, hurt the environment, contribute to climate change, divide ancestral native lands, disrupt tribal communities, increase international tensions, and reinforce failed Cold War policies of isolationism and exclusion.” (\u003ca href=\"http://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/2017-03-14-Item-16-Denouncing-Presidential-1.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Read the agenda item.\u003c/a>)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a similar move, the council is also \u003ca href=\"http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/03/14/berkeley-city-council-may-consider-dropping-wells-fargo/\" target=\"_blank\">considering severing ties with Wells Fargo\u003c/a> because of the bank’s investment in the Dakota Access Pipeline.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The East Bay Express reports that \u003ca href=\"http://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2017/03/14/these-bay-area-businesses-want-to-build-trumps-border-wall\" target=\"_blank\">several Bay Area-based companies\u003c/a> -- including some contracted with BART and other local government agencies -- are among the hundreds that have expressed interest in working on the border wall. \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/03/15/oakland-considers-boycotting-companies-that-work-on-trumps-proposed-border-wall/\" target=\"_blank\">Oakland is considering divestment as well\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11363984\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11363984\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_9251-720x540-800x600.jpeg\" alt=\"Mayor Jesse Arreguín and council members reaffirm Berkeley’s sanctuary city status in November 2016.\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_9251-720x540.jpeg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_9251-720x540-160x120.jpeg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_9251-720x540-240x180.jpeg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_9251-720x540-375x281.jpeg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/IMG_9251-720x540-520x390.jpeg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mayor Jesse Arreguin and City Council members reaffirm Berkeley’s sanctuary city status in November 2016. \u003ccite>(Tracey Taylor/Berkeleyside)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>On the same day Trump signed the executive order to build the border wall, he signed another \u003ca href=\"http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/01/25/trump-threatens-cut-funds-sanctuary-cities-berkeley-stands-lose-11-5m/\" target=\"_blank\">threatening to withdraw federal funds from sanctuary cities\u003c/a>. Arreguin has said he remains committed to preserving Berkeley’s status as a sanctuary for undocumented immigrants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Berkeley received $11.5 million in federal funds in 2015, but it is unclear how much of that the city would lose under Trump’s order.\u003cbr>\n\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Follow Berkeleyside on \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/berkeleyside\" target=\"_blank\">Twitter\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/berkeleyside\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook\u003c/a> or get the latest news in your inbox with \u003ca href=\"http://www.berkeleyside.com/e-news-signup/\" target=\"_blank\">Berkeleyside’s Daily Briefing\u003c/a>. Email us at tips@berkeleyside.com. Keep Berkeleyside running and support independent local journalism by \u003ca href=\"http://www.berkeleyside.com/support-us-by-becoming-a-member/\" target=\"_blank\">becoming a member\u003c/a>.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cp>Fifty-year-old Teresa Gomez moved to the United States as a young woman with one goal: to support her aging mother in Mexico.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For decades, Gomez has sent her mother a third of every paycheck. She organizes merchandise and attends customers at a Barrio Logan grocery store. Her mother has heart problems, and uses the money to survive in the southern Mexican state of Jalisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I send her $400 every two weeks,” said Gomez, who lives in San Diego and has dual U.S.-Mexico citizenship. \"I provide for my mother.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'We came here with the American Dream, not to be millionaires, but simply to live decently and help our families.'\u003ccite>Teresa Gomez\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>But that money -- known as remittances -- may soon be in jeopardy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>President Trump has \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/memo-explains-how-donald-trump-plans-to-pay-for-border-wall/2007/?tid=a_inl\">threatened to target remittances\u003c/a> as a way of forcing Mexico to pay for his planned border wall, which will cost anywhere between $5 billion and $25 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gomez doesn’t think that would be fair. She’s a U.S. citizen as well as a Mexican one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“How are you going to punish so many citizens who come as workers, with good thoughts and acts in this country?” Gomez asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11350200\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11350200\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Teresa Gomez shows a picture of her mother, Carmen. 'I send her $400 every two weeks,' said Gomez, who has dual U.S.-Mexico citizenship. 'I provide for my mother.'\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-1920x1080.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Teresa Gomez shows a picture of her mother, Carmen. 'I send her $400 every two weeks,' said Gomez, who has dual U.S.-Mexico citizenship. 'I provide for my mother.' \u003ccite>(Kris Arciaga/KPBS)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Remittances to Mexico reached a\u003ca href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/remittances-to-mexico-hit-record-27-billion-in-2016-1485978810\"> record $27 billion\u003c/a> last year, representing the largest source of foreign income for the country after auto exports. Immigrants in California sent \u003ca href=\"http://www.kpbs.org/news/2015/may/06/california-leads-increase-remittances-mexico-us/\">the largest chunk\u003c/a>, $8 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gomez, a single woman, said she wouldn’t be able to afford a tax on remittances. She rents a small room in a Barrio Logan apartment, where she lives with her talkative conure parrot, Kiko.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We came here with the American Dream, not to be millionaires, but simply to live decently and help our families,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"MbA9H8q0GiRL6GdNdB2b0EqfsDXG0f4q\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gomez is one of millions of Mexicans in the U.S. who send money to relatives south of the border. She sends the money through a small money-transfer shop, El Frijolito, which charges a fee of $5 or $10, depending on the desired exchange rate. Others use larger transfer organizations such as Western Union.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The recent surge in remittances was due in part to fears about Trump’s threats. The owner of El Frijolito, Mariceli Castro, said money transfers surged the day after Trump became president.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The lines were all the way to the door. People were sending large quantities of money. A lot of people were selling everything they had in the bank,” Castro said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said if Trump targets remittances, it would be devastating for her business and her clients.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Most of (my customers) have an honest job, earning money with the sweat of their foreheads just so they can send it home,” Castro said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Hu-b__o0Y\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Targeting remittances may be trickier than Trump has outlined \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/memo-explains-how-donald-trump-plans-to-pay-for-border-wall/2007/?tid=a_inl\">in his campaign memos.\u003c/a> Policy experts have said that a tax on remittances would unnecessarily hurt all money transfers to Mexico, including those by Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It would have to be broadly applied -- it would be, basically, a tax on electronic transfers,” said Gordon Hanson, dean of UC San Diego’s \u003ca href=\"https://gps.ucsd.edu/\">School of Global Policy and Strategy\u003c/a>. “The thing is, what’s the difference between an electronic transfer that is a remittance versus a transfer between two business entities? On paper, they look identical.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hanson said a tax or ban on remittances would be devastating for Mexican-Americans and the San Diego economy in general, not just people who are in the U.S. illegally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"E8kjIDUyr0x10HKePS2t4VsikJolrlpI\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You look at our construction industry, you look at bars and restaurants and hotels (in) the San Diego tourist industry, go into any San Diego neighborhood, who is caring for yards, who is cleaning houses and providing child care?” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gomez said she will find a way to send her mother the money she needs for medicines and food -- no matter what.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As a human being, or rather, as a Mexican, nothing is impossible,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If need be, Gomez could cross the border to transfer the money in Tijuana. She would have to contend with three- to four-hour wait times at the ports of entry, but she said it would be worth it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For immigrants who live far from the border, or who lack legal immigration status in the U.S., it’s more complicated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11350266\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11350266\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantSkyKPBS-800x480.jpg\" alt=\"Marina moved to the U.S. in 1999, to support her mother. She said Trump's threats scare her because her mother depends on the money she sends home to Mexico City.\" width=\"800\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantSkyKPBS-800x480.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantSkyKPBS-160x96.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantSkyKPBS-1020x612.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantSkyKPBS.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantSkyKPBS-1180x708.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantSkyKPBS-960x576.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantSkyKPBS-240x144.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantSkyKPBS-375x225.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantSkyKPBS-520x312.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Marina moved to the U.S. in 1999, to support her mother. She said Trump's threats scare her because her mother depends on the money she sends home to Mexico City. \u003ccite>(Kris Arciaga/KPBS)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Marina is a 37-year-old immigrant who asked us to keep her identity secret for fear of deportation. She cleans houses and takes care of a 2-year-old girl, sending about $500 a month to her mother in Mexico City. She is also single.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I never go out -- it’s rare for me to go watch a movie or eat with a friend because I’m always working,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said she moved to the U.S. when she was 21 years old, in 1999, to support her mother, and that Trump’s threats scare her because her mother depends on her. She said she is afraid of going back to Mexico, where homicides rose by 22 percent last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I talk to my family, they tell me every day it’s worse. They’re even afraid to go out into the street because they killed someone here, they killed someone there,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said if Trump wants to build a wall, he should build one. But she hopes he finds another way to pay for it, because she can’t afford it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I respect the new president because this is simply not my country,” she said. “But I’m not robbing money as some people say. I work.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story is part of California Counts, a collaboration of KPBS, KPCC, KQED and Capital Public Radio to report on the 2016 election. The coverage focuses on major issues and solicits diverse voices on what’s important to the future of California.\u003cbr>\n\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n",
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'I provide for my mother.'\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-800x450.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-1020x574.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-1920x1080.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-1180x664.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-960x540.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-240x135.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-375x211.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/03/ImmigrantMomPhoneKPBS-520x293.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Teresa Gomez shows a picture of her mother, Carmen. 'I send her $400 every two weeks,' said Gomez, who has dual U.S.-Mexico citizenship. 'I provide for my mother.' \u003ccite>(Kris Arciaga/KPBS)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Remittances to Mexico reached a\u003ca href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/remittances-to-mexico-hit-record-27-billion-in-2016-1485978810\"> record $27 billion\u003c/a> last year, representing the largest source of foreign income for the country after auto exports. Immigrants in California sent \u003ca href=\"http://www.kpbs.org/news/2015/may/06/california-leads-increase-remittances-mexico-us/\">the largest chunk\u003c/a>, $8 billion.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gomez, a single woman, said she wouldn’t be able to afford a tax on remittances. She rents a small room in a Barrio Logan apartment, where she lives with her talkative conure parrot, Kiko.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"We came here with the American Dream, not to be millionaires, but simply to live decently and help our families,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gomez is one of millions of Mexicans in the U.S. who send money to relatives south of the border. She sends the money through a small money-transfer shop, El Frijolito, which charges a fee of $5 or $10, depending on the desired exchange rate. Others use larger transfer organizations such as Western Union.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The recent surge in remittances was due in part to fears about Trump’s threats. The owner of El Frijolito, Mariceli Castro, said money transfers surged the day after Trump became president.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The lines were all the way to the door. People were sending large quantities of money. A lot of people were selling everything they had in the bank,” Castro said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She said if Trump targets remittances, it would be devastating for her business and her clients.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Most of (my customers) have an honest job, earning money with the sweat of their foreheads just so they can send it home,” Castro said.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/P-Hu-b__o0Y'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/P-Hu-b__o0Y'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Targeting remittances may be trickier than Trump has outlined \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/memo-explains-how-donald-trump-plans-to-pay-for-border-wall/2007/?tid=a_inl\">in his campaign memos.\u003c/a> Policy experts have said that a tax on remittances would unnecessarily hurt all money transfers to Mexico, including those by Americans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It would have to be broadly applied -- it would be, basically, a tax on electronic transfers,” said Gordon Hanson, dean of UC San Diego’s \u003ca href=\"https://gps.ucsd.edu/\">School of Global Policy and Strategy\u003c/a>. “The thing is, what’s the difference between an electronic transfer that is a remittance versus a transfer between two business entities? On paper, they look identical.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hanson said a tax or ban on remittances would be devastating for Mexican-Americans and the San Diego economy in general, not just people who are in the U.S. illegally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You look at our construction industry, you look at bars and restaurants and hotels (in) the San Diego tourist industry, go into any San Diego neighborhood, who is caring for yards, who is cleaning houses and providing child care?” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gomez said she will find a way to send her mother the money she needs for medicines and food -- no matter what.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“As a human being, or rather, as a Mexican, nothing is impossible,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If need be, Gomez could cross the border to transfer the money in Tijuana. 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