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"content": "\u003cp>WASHINGTON -- For years, Republican Rep. Mary Bono endured the increasingly suggestive comments from a fellow lawmaker in the House. But when the congressman approached her on the House floor and told her he'd been thinking about her in the shower, she'd had enough.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She confronted the man, who she said still serves in Congress, telling him his comments were demeaning and wrong. And he backed off.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bono, who served 15 years before being defeated in 2012, is not alone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As reports flow almost daily of harassment or worse by men in entertainment, business and the media, one current and three former female lawmakers tell The Associated Press that they, too, have been harassed or subjected to hostile sexual comments -- by fellow members of Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The incidents occurred years or even decades ago, usually when the women were young newcomers to Congress. They range from isolated comments at one hearing, to repeated unwanted come-ons, to lewd remarks and even groping on the House floor. Coming amid an intensifying national focus on sexual harassment and gender hostility in the workplace, the revelations underscore that no woman is immune, even at the highest reaches of government.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"This is about power,\" said former California Sen. Barbara Boxer, after describing an incident at a hearing in the 1980s where a male colleague made a sexually suggestive comment. The colleague, using the traditional congressional parlance, said he wanted to \"associate\" himself with her remarks -- adding afterward that he also wanted to \"associate with the gentle lady.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Boxer said the comment was met with general laughter and an approving second from the committee chairman. She said she later asked that it be removed from the record.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"rgyLzcFEJ17N2nOsZGBmIQXIOdcmD996\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"That was an example of the way I think we were thought of, a lot of us. ... It's hostile and embarrasses, and therefore could take away a person's power,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Boxer and the other female lawmakers spoke on the record to tell their stories in the wake of revelations about Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein's serial attacks on women, as well as disclosures from current and former Capitol Hill staffers about harassment by lawmakers and aides. Those accounts, published in The Washington Post and elsewhere, revealed that Congress has few training or reporting requirements in place to deal with sexual harassment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Largely untold before now is that some female lawmakers themselves say they have been harassed by male colleagues. While rare, the accounts raise troubling questions about the boys' club environment in Congress where male lawmakers can feel empowered to target not only staffers but even their own peers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lawmakers declined to identify the perpetrators by name, but at least two of the men continue to serve in the House. None of the female lawmakers interviewed reported what happened, and some noted it was not clear where they would lodge such a complaint. At least three of the four told friends or aides about the incidents, which in some cases were witnessed by other lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When I was a very new member of Congress in my early 30s, there was a more senior member who outright propositioned me, who was married, and despite trying to laugh it off and brush it aside it, would repeat. And I would avoid that member,\" said Rep. Linda Sanchez, D-Calif. She added that she would warn other new female members about the lawmaker in question, but she declined to identify him, while saying he remains in Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I just don't think it would be helpful\" to call the lawmaker out by name, Sanchez said. \"The problem is, as a member there's no HR department you can go to, there's nobody you can turn to. Ultimately they're employed by their constituents.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sanchez also said that a different male colleague repeatedly ogled her, and at one point touched her inappropriately on the House floor, while trying to make it appear accidental. She declined to identify the lawmaker but said he was no longer in Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bono said she ultimately confronted her colleague on the House floor after he'd made repeated harassing comments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bono, who arrived in the House at age 36 to replace her husband Sonny Bono after he died in a skiing accident, said it seemed like the lawmaker didn't know how to talk to a woman as an equal. \"Instead of being 'how's the weather, how's your career, how's your bill,' it was 'I thought about you while I was in the shower.' So it was a matter of saying to him 'That's not cool, that's just not cool.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bono declined to identify the lawmaker, saying the behavior stopped after she finally challenged him. He still serves in Congress, she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It is a man's world, it's still a man's world,\" Bono said. \"Not being a flirt and not being a bitch. That was my rule, to try to walk that fine line.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former Rep. Hilda Solis, now a Los Angeles County supervisor, recalls repeated unwanted harassing overtures from one lawmaker, though she declined to name him or go into detail.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't think I'm the only one. What I tried to do was ignore it, turn away, walk away. Obviously it's offensive. Are you supposed to be flattered? No, we're adults. Not appropriate,\" said Solis, who left Congress in 2009 to join the Obama administration as labor secretary.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's humiliating, even though they may have thought they were being cute. No, it's not. It's not appropriate. I'm your colleague, but he doesn't see me that way, and that's a problem,\" Solis said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The experiences occurred against the backdrop of broader gender inequities in Congress, where women remain a distinct minority, making up only about 20 percent of members in the House and Senate. That's up from fewer than 10 percent in the quarter-century since politics' Year of the Woman in 1992. That election season, large numbers of women sought office following hearings by the then-all-male Senate Judiciary Committee over Anita Hill's testimony about alleged sexual harassment by Clarence Thomas, who was subsequently confirmed to the Supreme Court, albeit by a narrow margin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The increase in numbers and the prominence of a few individual women, such as House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, has not resulted in parity in all measures, nor eliminated the potential for male members to demean or even harass their female counterparts. Nonetheless, a few former female lawmakers contacted by The AP expressed surprise and even disbelief at the notion that lawmakers themselves could be victims of harassment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rep. Jackie Speier of California has recently gone public with an account of being sexually assaulted by a male chief of staff while she was a congressional staffer. She has criticized the vague rules in place on the issue and is preparing legislation to mandate sexual harassment training for congressional offices, among other changes. In a video posted to Twitter last week, she called Congress \"a breeding ground for a hostile work environment\" and encouraged others to come forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yet when it comes to lawmakers themselves, Speier said: \"I think the women in Congress are big girls. The equalizer that exists in Congress that doesn't exist in other settings is that we all get paid the same amount and we all have a vote, the same vote. So if you have members that are demeaning you it's because you're letting them.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Former Rep. 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That doesn't change the fact that sexual harassment can occur between peers,\" Drobac said, noting that numerous other factors can come into play, including the difference in age and length of service between the members, and the mere fact that men have more power in society than women.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Indeed the harassment or hostile incidents experienced by current and former lawmakers occurred when they were young newcomers to Congress, with less seniority than the men who targeted them. Yet the fact that some dispute whether harassment could even occur between members of Congress underscores the complexity of the issue and the fraught questions surrounding it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bono said she found power in confronting her harasser, and that after she did so it never happened again. 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It's hostile and embarrasses, and therefore could take away a person's power,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Boxer and the other female lawmakers spoke on the record to tell their stories in the wake of revelations about Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein's serial attacks on women, as well as disclosures from current and former Capitol Hill staffers about harassment by lawmakers and aides. Those accounts, published in The Washington Post and elsewhere, revealed that Congress has few training or reporting requirements in place to deal with sexual harassment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Largely untold before now is that some female lawmakers themselves say they have been harassed by male colleagues. 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She added that she would warn other new female members about the lawmaker in question, but she declined to identify him, while saying he remains in Congress.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I just don't think it would be helpful\" to call the lawmaker out by name, Sanchez said. \"The problem is, as a member there's no HR department you can go to, there's nobody you can turn to. Ultimately they're employed by their constituents.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sanchez also said that a different male colleague repeatedly ogled her, and at one point touched her inappropriately on the House floor, while trying to make it appear accidental. 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"content": "\u003cp>For more than 20 years, Bob Patterson spent his days driving to flooring jobs around South Bay in Los Angeles County, with a ready smile and obvious joy in his work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But for the last month he has not picked up a saw or hammer. His days are now spent raising his family on his own, and trying to keep himself together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lisa Patterson -- his wife, his best friend, the person who kept the trains running -- is gone, lost in one of the country's deadliest shootings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Oct. 1, a \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/tag/las-vegas-shooting/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">gunman opened fire\u003c/a> on a country music festival in Las Vegas, killing 59 people, \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/10/05/over-half-las-vegas-massacre-victims-from-california-socal-coroner-team-assisting/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more than half of them\u003c/a> California residents such as Lisa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/tcr/2017/11/PattersonObitHuang171103.mp3\" Image=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/Pattersons-1180x789.jpg\" Title=\"A Month After Las Vegas Shooting, New Reality Sets in for Southern California Family\" program=\"The California Report\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She and Bob have raised three kids in Lomita. Their eldest, Amber, has left college to be with the family and to help look after the youngest, Brooke, who is 7. In between is 16-year-old Robert, named after his dad, but especially bonded with his mother.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even in his grief, Bob is as effusive as he ever was with the revolving door of friends who come with food and hugs every day -- but he acknowledges that inside he's struggling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My kids are motherless,\" Bob said. \"That's probably the hardest thing for me.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lisa took Brooke to and from school, but now it's Bob's job. Peering into her classroom during school pickup, he spots his daughter in a pink-and-white striped shirt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Brookie, you ready, babe?\" Bob calls out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627697\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11627697\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-800x555.jpg\" alt=\"Bob Patterson picks up his daughter from school in Lomita on Oct. 30, 2017.\" width=\"800\" height=\"555\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-800x555.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-160x111.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-1020x707.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-1180x818.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-960x666.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-240x166.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-375x260.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-520x360.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bob Patterson picks up his daughter from school in Lomita on Oct. 30, 2017. \u003ccite>(Dan Tuffs/KPCC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Lisa, her husband said, really did it all. She coached softball and led the school PTA. She volunteered at church. She took care of her live-in mother-in-law, who has Parkinson's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She ran her husband’s flooring business, and kept all his books.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I hadn’t paid a bill for 25 years,\" Bob said, softly laughing. \"I’m still trying to figure it out. She would always say we were doomed if she ever passed away. And now it’s coming to light.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"w2XzNhyMq5t5hsTkJ7VI5qsxbXt0RmEh\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob and Lisa never shied away from talking about death. They both had lost close relatives, including siblings. But Bob said they were so grateful for the lives they had together that, if death were to strike one of them, there'd be no regrets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was 28 years ago he fell for Lisa, drawn to her irreverent humor, kindness and beauty. Several years after meeting, he got baptized and became Catholic, the faith she'd been raised in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627701\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11627701\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-800x556.jpg\" alt=\"A photograph shows Bob and Lisa Patterson when they first met. Lisa was killed during the Oct. 1 attack in Las Vegas.\" width=\"800\" height=\"556\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-800x556.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-160x111.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-1020x709.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-960x668.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-240x167.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-375x261.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-520x362.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A photograph shows Bob and Lisa Patterson when they first met. Lisa was killed during the Oct. 1 attack in Las Vegas. \u003ccite>(Dan Tuffs/KPCC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Three kids later, they were as romantic as they ever were. The weekend Lisa died, she had wanted to come home early from her Vegas getaway with friends to be with Bob and the kids.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he convinced her to stay. The night of the concert, Lisa texted Bob a kiss emoji, and said she missed him.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I don’t get how we can have speed limits and plastic bag bans and all that, we can’t step up and take care of guns.'\u003ccite>Bob Patterson\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>A few hours later, he got word of the massacre.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob sent Lisa a flurry of texts. Called her cell over and over. Nothing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He and his son, Robert, got in the car and sped in the darkness toward Vegas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their daughter Amber, 19, drove from Northern Arizona University to meet them. After a whole day of searching for Lisa in hospitals, they went to the family assistance center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob got called into a room and that’s where he saw Lisa’s purse, her phone, her lipstick all lined up on a desk. When he walked out, his kids read his face. Amber started to cry. Robert threw a chair, and broke down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The last few weeks have been a blur of fundraisers, visits by friends bearing food, the constant presence of family. Lisa's mother and sister, Helene and Roberta Marhefka, live only five doors down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627703\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-11627703 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/GrandmaPatterson-800x534.jpg\" alt=\"Lisa Patterson’s mother Helene Marhefka (L), Lisa's daughter Brooke Patterson and Lisa's oldest sister Roberta Marhefka spend time at the Paterson home in Lomita on Oct. 30, 2017.\" width=\"800\" height=\"534\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/GrandmaPatterson-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/GrandmaPatterson-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/GrandmaPatterson-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/GrandmaPatterson-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/GrandmaPatterson-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/GrandmaPatterson-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/GrandmaPatterson-520x347.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/GrandmaPatterson.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lisa Patterson’s mother, Helene Marhefka (L), Lisa's daughter, Brooke Patterson, and Lisa's older sister, Roberta Marhefka, spend time at the Patterson home in Lomita on Oct. 30, 2017. \u003ccite>(Dan Tuffs/KPCC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hundreds attended Lisa’s funeral service nearly two weeks after the shooting. Robert was the first of the children to speak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Mom, I love you to the moon and back,\" Robert said. \"Thank you for everything you’ve done for me. I’ll see you again someday.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since Lisa died, money has been an afterthought. The family hasn’t applied for \u003ca href=\"https://www.scpr.org/news/2017/11/01/77251/ca-victims-of-las-vegas-shootings-could-receive-fu/\">victim’s compensation funds\u003c/a> offered by Nevada and California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob hasn’t filed a wrongful death suit like some other families have, though a lawyer friend says he might need to at some point. But one thing Bob says he will do is take a public stand on gun control.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don’t get how we can have speed limits and plastic bag bans and all that, we can’t step up and take care of guns,\" Bob said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"WUVblEWN5J6yhSHBKVAyMJoDIU5z9dk2\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob and Lisa each owned a handgun for home protection. But he doesn’t understand why manufacturers are allowed to sell assault weapons to civilians.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Why is it more important to have those for recreational use than to save people’s lives?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amber said she’ll be speaking out on guns, too, and not letting fear get in the way. This past weekend, she went to an outdoor amphitheater to enjoy an EDM festival in San Bernardino.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don’t think I thought once about, is there going to be a shooter here,\" Amber said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She also plans to go back to college, likely attending Marymount California University in neighboring Palos Verdes so she can be near her family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627705\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11627705\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/AmberP-800x534.jpg\" alt=\"Amber Patterson looks at family photo albums at home in Lomita on Oct. 30, 2017.\" width=\"800\" height=\"534\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/AmberP-800x534.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/AmberP-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/AmberP-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/AmberP-960x640.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/AmberP-240x160.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/AmberP-375x250.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/AmberP-520x347.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/AmberP.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Amber Patterson looks at family photo albums at home in Lomita on Oct. 30, 2017. \u003ccite>(Dan Tuffs/KPCC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At night, when the visitors have stopped rolling in, and it's just Bob and the kids, there's quiet to think about Lisa. Brooke has taken to sleeping next to her dad at night, and that's when they each come up with a favorite memory they have of Lisa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Brooke may have had the least time with their mom, but she always has several memories. Like the time her mom cheered Brooke on during a softball game as she pitched her way to a strikeout. Or the time Brooke got so scared when her mom dressed up as a scary clown for Halloween she had to hide under the covers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Getting on isn't going to be easy, but this is how you try.\u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even in his grief, Bob is as effusive as he ever was with the revolving door of friends who come with food and hugs every day -- but he acknowledges that inside he's struggling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"My kids are motherless,\" Bob said. \"That's probably the hardest thing for me.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lisa took Brooke to and from school, but now it's Bob's job. Peering into her classroom during school pickup, he spots his daughter in a pink-and-white striped shirt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Brookie, you ready, babe?\" Bob calls out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627697\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11627697\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-800x555.jpg\" alt=\"Bob Patterson picks up his daughter from school in Lomita on Oct. 30, 2017.\" width=\"800\" height=\"555\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-800x555.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-160x111.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-1020x707.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-1180x818.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-960x666.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-240x166.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-375x260.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobPatterson-520x360.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bob Patterson picks up his daughter from school in Lomita on Oct. 30, 2017. \u003ccite>(Dan Tuffs/KPCC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Lisa, her husband said, really did it all. She coached softball and led the school PTA. She volunteered at church. She took care of her live-in mother-in-law, who has Parkinson's.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She ran her husband’s flooring business, and kept all his books.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I hadn’t paid a bill for 25 years,\" Bob said, softly laughing. \"I’m still trying to figure it out. She would always say we were doomed if she ever passed away. And now it’s coming to light.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob and Lisa never shied away from talking about death. They both had lost close relatives, including siblings. But Bob said they were so grateful for the lives they had together that, if death were to strike one of them, there'd be no regrets.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was 28 years ago he fell for Lisa, drawn to her irreverent humor, kindness and beauty. Several years after meeting, he got baptized and became Catholic, the faith she'd been raised in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11627701\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-11627701\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-800x556.jpg\" alt=\"A photograph shows Bob and Lisa Patterson when they first met. Lisa was killed during the Oct. 1 attack in Las Vegas.\" width=\"800\" height=\"556\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-800x556.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-160x111.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-1020x709.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-960x668.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-240x167.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-375x261.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa-520x362.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/10/2017/11/BobAndLisa.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A photograph shows Bob and Lisa Patterson when they first met. Lisa was killed during the Oct. 1 attack in Las Vegas. \u003ccite>(Dan Tuffs/KPCC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Three kids later, they were as romantic as they ever were. The weekend Lisa died, she had wanted to come home early from her Vegas getaway with friends to be with Bob and the kids.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But he convinced her to stay. The night of the concert, Lisa texted Bob a kiss emoji, and said she missed him.\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'I don’t get how we can have speed limits and plastic bag bans and all that, we can’t step up and take care of guns.'\u003ccite>Bob Patterson\u003c/cite>\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>A few hours later, he got word of the massacre.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob sent Lisa a flurry of texts. Called her cell over and over. Nothing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He and his son, Robert, got in the car and sped in the darkness toward Vegas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Their daughter Amber, 19, drove from Northern Arizona University to meet them. After a whole day of searching for Lisa in hospitals, they went to the family assistance center.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bob got called into a room and that’s where he saw Lisa’s purse, her phone, her lipstick all lined up on a desk. When he walked out, his kids read his face. Amber started to cry. Robert threw a chair, and broke down.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The last few weeks have been a blur of fundraisers, visits by friends bearing food, the constant presence of family. 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The prosecution is arguing Garcia Zarate knew what he was doing and intended to fire the fatal shot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The .40-caliber semi-automatic handgun was stolen from BLM ranger John Woychowski's car four days before Steinle's death on July 1, 2015. Ravano testified he spoke with Woychowski about a week and a half later, several days after police had recovered the gun from San Francisco Bay.\u003cbr>\n[contextly_sidebar id=\"HfFgazSypMMoceiIVozYItsgJLkw5iXP\"]\u003cbr>\nBut, he said, he didn't ask about the weapon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't believe the gun was even discussed during that interview,\" Ravano testified. When Gonzalez asked him why, Ravano said, \"I was limited to certain questions. 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On a video of the \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/11/01/defendant-in-steinle-murder-trial-told-police-he-fired-threw-gun-in-bay-to-stop-it-from-shooting/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">interview played in court Wednesday\u003c/a>, he appeared to ask for an attorney about a half-hour into the questioning -- at about 3 a.m. on July 2, 2015 -- but it wasn't completely clear. The defense \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/09/25/defendants-statements-to-police-admissible-in-steinle-murder-trial-judge-rules/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">lost an earlier bid\u003c/a> to exclude the interview from the trial.\u003cbr>\n[contextly_sidebar id=\"rVTxb4wAvSilX6uMDthX1ZTlLqCwDSPF\"]\u003cbr>\nGonzalez probed some of the more confounding answers Garcia Zarate gave during cross-examination of Ravano on Thursday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When the inspectors pressed Garcia Zarate, telling him they didn't believe he found the gun wrapped in cloth on the pier, he answered \"yes.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But when they then asked him where he found it, he said he found it where he was sitting, on the pier.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Weren't you concerned that you could get Mr. Garcia Zarate to say whatever you wanted him to say?\" Gonzalez asked Ravano.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Questions are presented and answers are given,\" Ravano said. \"As a homicide inspector, you're somewhat skeptical of a lot of answers you receive.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The prosecution rested its case Thursday after brief testimony from San Francisco's chief medical examiner, who performed an autopsy on Steinle's body. 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"content": "\u003cp>Jurors in the high-profile San Francisco murder trial over the 2015 slaying of Kathryn Steinle heard the defendant's voice for the first time in court Wednesday, as the prosecution played extended excerpts from an overnight interview with homicide inspectors conducted several hours after the shooting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The hour's worth of excerpts were taken from a 4½-hour videotaped interview stretching from about 1 a.m. to 5 a.m. on July 2, 2015.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Video of the interview was displayed during the testimony of San Francisco police Lt. Anthony Ravano, who was a sergeant and homicide inspector in 2015.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravano described how a series of photographs provided by bystanders helped him identify defendant Jose Ines Garcia Zarate as the person who likely shot Steinle at around 6:30 p.m. on July 1, 2015. Other officers arrested Garcia Zarate about an hour later, a mile south of the pedestrian pier on San Francisco's waterfront where Steinle was shot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before Assistant District Attorney Diana Garcia played the video, she asked Ravano what information he had before he interrogated Garcia Zarate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravano said he suspected the gun used to kill Steinle was in San Francisco Bay, but police had yet to recover it. He didn't know the positions of Steinle or Garcia Zarate at the time of the shooting. He didn't know his suspect's name.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prosecutor Garcia asked Ravano if he had lied to the suspect during the interview. Ravano said he had.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I told him we recovered a firearm,\" he said, even though police at that time had not recovered the gun. \"We matched DNA from the firearm.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said he told Garcia Zarate that they had recovered gunshot residue from his hands and that five witnesses saw him shoot Steinle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Was it true there were five witnesses who saw the shooting?\" Garcia asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"No,\" Ravano said. \"No one saw him shoot.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the video, three officers entered the interview room at San Francisco's Hall of Justice and roused Garcia Zarate, who appeared to be sleeping. A Spanish-speaking officer, Martin Covarrubias, read Garcia Zarate his Miranda rights from a card, in Spanish. Garcia Zarate indicated he understood each point by answering \"yes\" in Spanish. Ravano and Sgt. Chris Canning were asking the questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The defendant gave his name as Juan Francisco Lopez Sanchez, an alias by which he is known in the federal prison system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of his initial answers don't appear to make sense. When the officers asked his birthdate, he repeatedly said \"1863\" in Spanish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He also said on the video that he lives in Colombia, but had been sleeping on the street in San Francisco for the past week. In fact, Garcia Zarate had been on city streets for over two months, following his release from San Francisco County Jail after the dismissal of a 20-year-old marijuana charge. He is a Mexican citizen who spent 15 of the past 20 years in federal prison for illegally re-entering the U.S. after being deported.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Under questioning, he didn't initially admit to being on Pier 14 the previous evening.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia Zarate repeatedly said on the video that he was eating cookies or crackers near the baseball field, which is over a mile from Pier 14 but near where he was arrested. He said he had spent the day collecting aluminum cans.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was eating because it was dinnertime,\" Covarrubias translated one of Garcia Zarate's answers. \"That's what I was doing. I was eating crackers.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravano showed Garcia Zarate a photograph of himself sitting on Pier 14, taken by a bystander shortly before the shooting. Garcia Zarate insisted it was someone in a similar T-shirt, but who appeared to have more hair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The videotape reveals the complexity of conducting an interrogation in two languages -- with two officers questioning the defendant and a third officer translating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At about 3 a.m., Ravano asked Garcia Zarate (through Covarrubias' translation) if he knew why he was at the Hall of Justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia Zarate said it was because he had been brought there. He then spoke very quickly, saying the Spanish word for \"lawyer\" several times.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His defense attorneys \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/09/25/defendants-statements-to-police-admissible-in-steinle-murder-trial-judge-rules/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">previously tried\u003c/a> unsuccessfully to have the rest of the interview excluded from the trial because, they argued, Garcia Zarate had invoked his Fifth Amendment right to legal counsel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Covarrubias translated one of his statements as \"... speak to my lawyers and then I will tell you the truth.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The officers didn't appear to address his statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Listen to me. Look at me. This is you,\" Ravano said, pointing to a photograph on the table. \"We know this is you.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia Zarate responded in Spanish: \"Do what you have to do. The proof is right there.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravano continued: \"Right here, something very bad happened and you had a pistol in your hand. And you threw it into the bay.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia Zarate responded, according to Covarrubias' translation: \"I want my money and lawyer.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravano continued: \"At around 6:30, that girl was shot. She's hurt. And a lot of people were there to see what happened. Did you see what happened?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I did not see anything,\" Garcia Zarate said, according to Covarrubias' translation. \"It was dinnertime and I was eating.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravano and Canning left the room at about 3:37 a.m. and Covarrubias and Garcia Zarate continued to talk for over an hour, but that part of the video was not played in court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two homicide inspectors returned to the room just before 5 a.m.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I want to know why you shot the girl and threw the pistol in the water,\" one of them said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't know,\" Garcia Zarate responded in Spanish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Did you fire the shot?\" Ravano asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Yes,\" Garcia Zarate answered in Spanish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Why?\" Ravano asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There was a long silence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Were you mad? Were you sad?\" Ravano asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't know,\" Garcia Zarate said in English.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Why? Why?\" Ravano insisted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a long pause, \"I don't know,\" Garcia Zarate said in Spanish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"After she was shot, did you throw the gun into the water?\" Ravano asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia responded in Spanish. He said, \"I think I threw it, yes,\" according to Covarrubias' translation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Canning asked: \"What were you aiming at?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Spanish, Garcia Zarate said, \"a sea lion,\" according to Covarrubias' translation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There are no sea lions over there,\" Canning said. A few minutes later, Garcia Zarate said in Spanish that he was aiming at \"a black fish.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said he remembered throwing the gun into the bay. He said he fired a single shot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the inspectors asked him how he got the gun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When I got there,\" Garcia Zarate said in Spanish, according to Covarrubias' translation, \"When I was walking along, there was a rag and I stepped on it and it fired and I grabbed it and tossed it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The defense is arguing that Garcia Zarate picked up an object wrapped in cloth and didn't know what it was until it fired.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He continued: \"I was trying to prevent the gun from shooting by itself,\" according to the translation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Canning knelt down next to Garcia Zarate and lowered his voice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I understand you're scared,\" he said. \"The truth is very important. The truth is going to help everybody understand why you did what you did.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He continued: \"As difficult as the truth can be, the truth is always the best. So please, tell us the truth. No lies. You didn't step on the gun, did you?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Yes,\" Garcia Zarate said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You pulled the trigger,\" Canning said. \"Just once?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Yes,\" Garcia Zarate answered in Spanish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few minutes later, Canning asked Garcia Zarate where he got the gun. The police would later learn it was stolen from a U.S. Bureau of Land Management ranger's car four days before Steinle was shot, but at the time they hadn't yet recovered it from the bay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I don't believe you found it on the dock,\" Canning said. \"Where did you find it?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia Zarate answered in Spanish: \"That's where I found it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravano asked him about his intent when he found the gun, an issue central to the murder trial currently underway.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Did you mean to do it?\" Ravano asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"No,\" Garcia Zarate said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Was it an accident?\" Ravano asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Yes,\" Garcia Zarate said in Spanish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"But you made the decision to pull the trigger?\" Ravano asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Yes,\" Garcia Zarate said in Spanish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravano asked Garcia Zarate again why he threw the gun in the water, and Officer Covarrubias translated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"He had no choice but to get rid of it because if he had not it would have continued to fire,\" Covarrubias said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravano asked Garcia Zarate how he felt after learning that Steinle was killed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia Zarate said he didn't remember clearly what happened. Prodded further, he said in Spanish: \"I just want to sign the papers that say I did it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Thank you for finally being honest,\" Canning said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Defense attorney Matt Gonzalez, chief attorney of the San Francisco Public Defender's Office, said outside court that Garcia Zarate was outmatched by the homicide inspectors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The fact that very skilled and experienced and educated interrogators can get a second-grade [educated] Mexican immigrant to adopt what they’re saying, like that Kate Steinle was 5 feet away when the gun discharged -- that doesn’t make it true,\" he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, Garcia Zarate was about 90 feet from her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ravano's testimony is expected to continue Thursday with cross-examination by Gonzalez.\u003c/p>\n\n",
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Garcia Zarate insisted it was someone in a similar T-shirt, but who appeared to have more hair.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The videotape reveals the complexity of conducting an interrogation in two languages -- with two officers questioning the defendant and a third officer translating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At about 3 a.m., Ravano asked Garcia Zarate (through Covarrubias' translation) if he knew why he was at the Hall of Justice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia Zarate said it was because he had been brought there. He then spoke very quickly, saying the Spanish word for \"lawyer\" several times.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His defense attorneys \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/09/25/defendants-statements-to-police-admissible-in-steinle-murder-trial-judge-rules/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">previously tried\u003c/a> unsuccessfully to have the rest of the interview excluded from the trial because, they argued, Garcia Zarate had invoked his Fifth Amendment right to legal counsel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Covarrubias translated one of his statements as \"... speak to my lawyers and then I will tell you the truth.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The officers didn't appear to address his statement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Listen to me. Look at me. This is you,\" Ravano said, pointing to a photograph on the table. \"We know this is you.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia Zarate responded in Spanish: \"Do what you have to do. 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Why?\" Ravano insisted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After a long pause, \"I don't know,\" Garcia Zarate said in Spanish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"After she was shot, did you throw the gun into the water?\" Ravano asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia responded in Spanish. He said, \"I think I threw it, yes,\" according to Covarrubias' translation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Canning asked: \"What were you aiming at?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Spanish, Garcia Zarate said, \"a sea lion,\" according to Covarrubias' translation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There are no sea lions over there,\" Canning said. A few minutes later, Garcia Zarate said in Spanish that he was aiming at \"a black fish.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said he remembered throwing the gun into the bay. He said he fired a single shot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the inspectors asked him how he got the gun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When I got there,\" Garcia Zarate said in Spanish, according to Covarrubias' translation, \"When I was walking along, there was a rag and I stepped on it and it fired and I grabbed it and tossed it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The defense is arguing that Garcia Zarate picked up an object wrapped in cloth and didn't know what it was until it fired.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He continued: \"I was trying to prevent the gun from shooting by itself,\" according to the translation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Canning knelt down next to Garcia Zarate and lowered his voice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I understand you're scared,\" he said. \"The truth is very important. The truth is going to help everybody understand why you did what you did.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He continued: \"As difficult as the truth can be, the truth is always the best. So please, tell us the truth. No lies. You didn't step on the gun, did you?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Yes,\" Garcia Zarate said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"You pulled the trigger,\" Canning said. \"Just once?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Yes,\" Garcia Zarate answered in Spanish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few minutes later, Canning asked Garcia Zarate where he got the gun. 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"content": "\u003cp>SACRAMENTO — The California Legislature paid at least $580,000 in the last five years to settle harassment, racism and other claims, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In one case, a payout included a stipulation forbidding the claimant from making \"derogatory statements\" about lawmakers or Senate business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The previously unreported roughly $44,500 settlement in 2015 with former Senate human resources department employee Anita Belmontes and her lawyers was included in settlement documents obtained by the AP through a public records request. They provide the fullest picture yet of the level of taxpayer dollars spent since 2012 to settle claims.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The details of what led to Belmontes' settlement and transfer to another Senate office were not disclosed in the documents and the Legislature shields its own investigative records from public view.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her settlement is one of two reviewed by AP that included non-disparagement clauses. The language in Belmontes' settlement was the broadest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jessica Levinson, an ethics expert at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, said the provision is a clear restriction of a citizen's right to free expression.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If we can contract away criticizing our government, we're contracting away the basis of our First Amendment rights,\" she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"wtW4wNTnMEqLwTf7SFPp0qtaGqPJdliV\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>How the Legislature handles complaints, and what it discloses, has become a subject of intense scrutiny in the two weeks since nearly \u003ca href=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/10/17/enough-californias-women-in-politics-call-out-sexual-harassment/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">150 women who work at the state Capitol signed a letter\u003c/a> claiming there is a culture of sexual harassment there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because the Legislature bars many of its records from disclosure, the settlement documents given to AP may not represent the full universe of payouts. The documents reveal five Senate settlements since 2012 totaling about $372,000 and two in the Assembly totaling $210,000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Assembly settlements both involved then-Democratic Assemblyman Steve Fox and were first reported two weeks ago by the Sacramento Bee.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/DanCALmatters/status/921020891701559296\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A former Fox employee, Nancy Finnigan, was paid $100,000 after she claimed she was fired for reporting that Fox once exposed himself to her, among other misconduct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another former Fox employee settled for $110,000 after claiming he asked her to perform work for his law firm. That settlement with Kristina Zahn included a clause that the parties would not disparage each other. Fox declined to comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Douglas Miller, a former staff member for Republican Sen. Tom Berryhill, received $89,500 this year to settle claims he was fired for complaining about a racist and sexist culture in Berryhill's district office in Modesto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Miller was fired after a Senate human resources investigation into a \"heated\" office discussion about Colin Kaepernick and whether he was a good role model, the Sacramento Bee reported.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kaepernick is the former San Francisco 49ers quarterback who gained notoriety for sitting and kneeling during the national anthem. Berryhill was not named as a defendant in the Miller case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In Belmontes' case, the Senate transferred her to the office of the Senate Republican Caucus and reinstated more than half a year of vacation and sick time she used between March and November 2014.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She also was paid $25,000 in compensation, $12,500 in attorney's fees, $465 to cover a medical bill and more than $6,500 to account for the wage difference between the two jobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"hwKgpRPM1Yo5W10OZBJH3IuO7nccRmR2\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The non-disparagement clause bars Belmontes from making \"any false, disparaging or derogatory statements ... regarding the Senate or any of its members, directors, officers, agents or representatives or about the Senate's business affairs, human resources matters, or financial condition.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the seven settlements reviewed by AP, Belmontes is the only person who maintained employment with the Legislature. She did not respond to an email seeking comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Belmontes was one of two Senate human resources department employees who settled claims in the last five years. The other was Dina Hidalgo, who ran the department.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her case was chronicled by the Sacramento Bee when it was settled in 2014 for nearly $100,000. In return for leaving her job amid an investigation into nepotism in her department the Senate agreed to pay her $85,400, mostly to account for unused sick time to pay the law firm that represented her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hidalgo's settlement included a clause that she cannot criticize the Senate in matters related to her claim.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Senate also paid $150,000 to cover legal fees for news organizations that sued in 2015 for access to the calendars of former Democratic Sens. 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"content": "\u003cp>California is now the first state to ban pet stores from selling animals from commercial breeders, thanks to \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB485\">a new law\u003c/a> signed by Gov. Jerry Brown in October. Animal advocates say it will reduce what they claim is the needless suffering of animals like puppies, kittens, and rabbits bred for sale. But critics say it will hurt pet store owners and force consumers to go underground. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The law goes effect in January 2019.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"Vz2DlYzKivDi7XN7HyyeWgUfRo1ZfKmu\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pet industry and commercial breeders oppose the measure, as does the \u003ca href=\"http://www.akc.org/\">American Kennel Club\u003c/a>. They say the law will make it more difficult for Californians to obtain dogs with the characteristics and traits they want, including breeds that are recommended for health considerations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, individual breeders would still be able to sell to customers. The law applies only to retail pet stores like Puppy Heaven, a shop north of Los Angeles in Agoura Hills. \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The store specializes in smaller dog breeds that have become increasingly popular in the last few years, like Yorkies, Maltese, Pomeranians, Maltipoos, and Morkies. 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