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The band plans to release a corrido later this year, titled “El Robo,” about a son who turns to crime to pay for his ailing mother’s medical care. Another song, “Bienvenidos,” explores the kinds of welcomes immigrants receive when they arrive in the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hernandez grew up immersed in corridos, especially those popularized by his father’s group, Los Tigres Del Norte, a legendary band that formed in San José in the late 1960s. Some of Los Tigres’ biggest hits include “Contrabando Y Traición,” a story about a scorned woman who takes revenge, and “La Jaula de Oro,” about a man who feels trapped in the United States after his children assimilate.[aside postID=news_11904539 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/02/Chalino-master.jpg']“When I was a kid, I would see people bumping rap songs; now I see young kids bumping corridos. When I was a kid, people were embarrassed to talk about corridos,” said Hernandez, 45. “I like how corridos have evolved and how they are becoming something new and fresh. This younger generation in the United States, that’s how they connect with the culture, through food or art or music.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DELACiiO agrees that there was a time when corridos were seen as music for family parties and parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I compare corridos to reggaetón. Reggaetón had to break the walls and the barriers to get a worldwide platform and be accepted by everybody,” he said. “I feel like corrido is doing the same thing. You have artists like Natanael Cano and Peso Pluma that cross boundaries.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cano and Peso Pluma are known for corridos tumbados, a fusion of American hip-hop and trap music with Mexican norteño and banda rhythms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12034712\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12034712\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/DELACiiO_KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1066\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/DELACiiO_KQED.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/DELACiiO_KQED-160x213.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oakland artist DELACiiO’s latest EP features a corrido titled “R94.” \u003ccite>(Luis Montoya / Courtesy of DELACiiO)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“This music slaps with everybody, right?” de los Ríos said. “When I am doing some research in the East Bay at different high schools, and I hear Southeast Asian kids blasting Peso Pluma, I hear African-American kids blasting Peso Pluma. The horn-driven sound, the accordion, the acoustic guitars — that sound really speaks to a lot of young people in different ways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But I’m also seeing for the first time a lot kids saying like, ‘Wow, my culture is at the center for once.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>De los Ríos said that while corridos are a valuable art form, some go beyond telling a story to condoning and glorifying misogyny, crime and violence. 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Schools, she said, often treated those students as if they hadn’t been exposed to literature or literary traditions, when in fact many of them were voracious consumers of corridos. She saw an opportunity to use corridos to teach literature and storytelling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was so thirsty for materials,” to use in classrooms, she said. She created them through academic research, earning a doctorate from Columbia University. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“When I was a kid, I would see people bumping rap songs; now I see young kids bumping corridos. When I was a kid, people were embarrassed to talk about corridos,” said Hernandez, 45. “I like how corridos have evolved and how they are becoming something new and fresh. This younger generation in the United States, that’s how they connect with the culture, through food or art or music.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>DELACiiO agrees that there was a time when corridos were seen as music for family parties and parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I compare corridos to reggaetón. Reggaetón had to break the walls and the barriers to get a worldwide platform and be accepted by everybody,” he said. “I feel like corrido is doing the same thing. You have artists like Natanael Cano and Peso Pluma that cross boundaries.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cano and Peso Pluma are known for corridos tumbados, a fusion of American hip-hop and trap music with Mexican norteño and banda rhythms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12034712\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12034712\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/DELACiiO_KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1066\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/DELACiiO_KQED.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/DELACiiO_KQED-160x213.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oakland artist DELACiiO’s latest EP features a corrido titled “R94.” \u003ccite>(Luis Montoya / Courtesy of DELACiiO)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“This music slaps with everybody, right?” de los Ríos said. “When I am doing some research in the East Bay at different high schools, and I hear Southeast Asian kids blasting Peso Pluma, I hear African-American kids blasting Peso Pluma. The horn-driven sound, the accordion, the acoustic guitars — that sound really speaks to a lot of young people in different ways.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“But I’m also seeing for the first time a lot kids saying like, ‘Wow, my culture is at the center for once.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>De los Ríos said that while corridos are a valuable art form, some go beyond telling a story to condoning and glorifying misogyny, crime and violence. The current president of Mexico, Claudia Sheinbaum, recently \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/delos/story/2025-04-02/mexican-corrido-band-us-government-cancel-visas\">called for an investigation\u003c/a> of a musical group that displayed the photo of a notorious cartel leader during a concert.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the other hand, corridos, de los Ríos said, have also been a powerful tool for challenging authority.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My favorite corrido that I’ve written is called ‘Corrido Palestina,’ and it’s about the genocide happening in Palestine, and it really takes to heart that role of truth telling, witnessing and documenting,” said La Doña.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The song talks calls for a cease fire and ends with “Viva Palestina.” After she \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13963789/la-dona-los-altos-de-la-soledad\">released the song last fall\u003c/a>, blowback was swift from supporters of Israel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’ve lost a lot of gigs. I have lost performance opportunities. I have lost contact with certain people in the industry. It has definitely been felt financially, spiritually, and in a lot of ways,” she said. “I expected it, and it’s been difficult, but it’s also not a surprise.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The fact that the song received pushback demonstrates the power of corridos today, La Doña said. She hopes young artists continue producing corridos and reinventing the art form.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Representation of any type of Latinx stories is really important within the pop culture canon,” she said. “I also see a lot of opportunity for diversifying narratives like having more female stories, having more queer stories, having like a lot of different experiences being reflected in a genre that’s typically been very machista, male-dominated and patriarchal.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>On an October night, a crowd packed tightly in San Diego’s Lightbulb Coffee murmured with excitement as they waited for a concert to begin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was only a few days before \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/israel-hamas-war\">the first anniversary of the Israel-Hamas war\u003c/a> and the atmosphere was tense.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have heavy, heavy hearts,” Sarab Aziz, a Syrian concert attendee, told KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A saxophone let out a melancholic sound, accompanied by an agitated hum of a cymbal. Suddenly, the playful melodies of the \u003cem>nye\u003c/em> — an Arabic reed flute — joined in. The atmosphere in the coffee shop transformed from heaviness to joy as the crowd recognized “Khosara,” a popular Egyptian song made even more famous when Jay-Z sampled it in his 2000 hit “Big Pimpin’.” But this wasn’t the version of the song most may be familiar with or traditional Arabic music at all: it was a jazz cover.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The band on stage was Al Akhbar, which means “the news” in Arabic. The San Diego-based group weaves together the instrumentation and rhythms of the Middle East with Western jazz, bringing audiences from diverse backgrounds together with their unique sound.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12030085\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/tamir-scaled-e1741288667392.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12030085\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/tamir-scaled-e1741288667392.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Keyboardist Tamir Persekian performs at SWANACON, an event at UC Riverside on Jan. 18, 2025. \u003ccite>( Daniel Nasr Photography)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The origin of the band follows multiple, interweaving stories. Keyboardist Tamir Persekian’s story begins across the ocean in East Jerusalem, where he was raised. The earliest sounds Persekian remembers are from family mornings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’d hear the spoon just stirring in the pot,” he said, “My parents making coffee with the radio on.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Persekian grew up with all kinds of music, his first love was hip-hop.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“All the hip-hop that was coming out of Palestine was like a form of protest,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a teenager, he loved listening to Palestinian rappers such as Shadia Mansour and DAM, as well as Black American musicians like Kendrick Lamar and J Dilla. Their music spoke to Persekian’s experiences of seeing family members harassed by Israeli soldiers in the streets and at military checkpoints.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_12021919 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/20250115_JapaneseAmericanActivism_GC-47-1020x680.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It got to the point where it’s like, ‘All right guys, can we listen to some hip-hop that’s not about occupation?’” Persekian said. “But it’s hard, ‘cause that’s what you live, breathe, eat, drink. Every single day.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After graduating from high school, Persekian came to the United States to study music at Mesa College in San Diego. There, he met drummer Naji Chaaban, who was also studying jazz. The two connected immediately.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Music is not something I do just for fun,” said Chaaban. “It’s my language. It’s how I express myself on a very deep level.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Chaaban has been playing music since he was a toddler. When his mother couldn’t find him inside the house one day, she saw kitchen cabinets emptied and, hearing noise, walked to their backyard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She found me just banging on a bunch of pots,” he said. “I had them set up in a tuned way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Although he was born in the United States, Chaaban grew up visiting relatives in Aleppo, Syria, during summers. He can still recall the smell of the jasmine growing on their apartment entrance. However, the trips stopped abruptly after the Syrian Civil War broke out in 2011. He was around 10.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Not being able to go there just like every other Syrian is definitely a sense feeling lost,” Chaaban said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This loss prompted an identity crisis.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12030086\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/band-photo-scaled-e1741288702582.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12030086\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/band-photo-scaled-e1741288702582.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1584\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Al Akhbar performed at UC Riverside’s SWANACON on Jan. 18, 2025. \u003ccite>(Daniel Nasr Photography)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I felt like I was a bit too Arab for the Americans and then not Arab enough for the Arabs,” he said. “It kind of just threw me off for a while.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the COVID-19 pandemic, Chaaban researched Arabic music. He dug deep into \u003ca href=\"https://global.oup.com/academic/product/inside-arabic-music-9780190658366\">\u003cem>Inside Arabic Music\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, a book that breaks down maqams, or Arabic melodies and their theories. As he read, Chaaban realized there were overlaps between jazz and Arabic music, like the emphasis on rhythm and the political circumstances that gave rise to both genres.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Revolution music is a good way to describe Black American music,” he said. “Resistance music is a great way to describe Middle Eastern music.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Persekian saw these links too, and soon, the two began experimenting, combining the music they were raised with and the music they adopted and performing jazz-inspired covers of Arabic music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Soon after, Persekian went to a local Arab classical music concert put on by an organization called Mazikaa Enterprises, led by Layan Amkieh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“That scarcity, that feeling of always carrying an armor,” Amkieh began, “led to the need for a space where we could take off that armor. A space that we could look in the mirror, be fully us.”[aside postID=news_12023476 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240403-DrSubeh-005-BL-1020x680.jpg']Amkieh is also Syrian, and she grew up between the United States and the Middle East. She said she felt like she had to buffer her national, cultural and religious identity from others. So, in 2023, she started Mazikaa Enterprises with her sister, Nour Amikeh, in order to curate spaces where Southwest Asian and North African cultures, known as SWANA, could be celebrated in diaspora communities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Amkieh and Persekian spoke, he broached the idea of fusion music with her. She loved it and became the band’s manager to make it happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Persekian enlisted additional friends, including saxophone player Richard Albert IV, who goes by Riva, and bassist Hank Lee Nelson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Albert, who grew up in Texas with Mexican and Puerto Rican parents, playing Arabic music has deepened his connection to his Latin American roots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Those percussive elements and some of the harmonic elements [in Latin music] belong to Arabic culture that … through generations and generations are passed down,” he said. “So learning my own culture through Arabic culture…it’s such a crazy journey as well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Originally from the Bay Area, Nelson’s path to Al Akhbar was more dramatic. One night, he was out with Albert and other friends when Persekian called him in a panic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’s like, ‘Yo, the bassist dropped out. Can you pull up and play?’” Nelson recalled. He was floored.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You want me to play bass at your gig that starts in like 15 minutes?” he responded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12030108\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1707px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12030108\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1707\" height=\"2560\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-scaled.jpg 1707w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-800x1200.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-1020x1530.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-160x240.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-1365x2048.jpg 1365w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-1920x2880.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1707px) 100vw, 1707px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Persekian, a keyboardist with roots in East Jerusalem, founded Al Akhbar with drummer Naji Chaaban in San Diego. \u003ccite>(Mazikaa by Salar)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Nelson had only practiced the music once. When the concert started, he was shaking as he strummed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t know how or why, but [Nelson] killed it,” Persekian recalled of that night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The last member to join the band was vocalist and Arab instrumentalist Salem Khattar. Growing up, Khattar’s Lebanese parents would take him to their home country in the summers. Khattar said he felt the musical spark when his grandparents took him to a music festival, where he saw a band play Arabic music live for the first time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was obsessed with it, and I wanted to learn so bad,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His family bought him his first \u003cem>nye\u003c/em> soon after.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Years later, while attending law school, Khattar threw himself into practicing the \u003cem>oud\u003c/em>, a lute. Like Persekian, Khattar met Amkieh, the band’s manager, at a concert, exchanging Instagram handles. Then, he joined one of their rehearsals.[aside postID=news_11997602 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/10/20240623_GAZAEVACUATION_GC-9-KQED.jpg']“When I met Naji, I was like, ‘I’ll break your legs if you don’t let me into this group,” Khattar said as he laughed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Diego contains many diasporic communities, as about a quarter of its population was born outside the country, \u003ca href=\"https://datausa.io/profile/geo/san-diego-ca\">according to 2022 census data\u003c/a>. San Diego County has historically \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/justice/2017/07/san-diego-welcomes-refugees-california-county/\">welcomed\u003c/a> more refugees than others in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The band also attracts a multicultural audience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Megan Kirie, who identifies as Boricua, or Puerto Rican, said the music that Al Akhbar played at Lightbulb Coffee resonated with her. It reminded her of the tunes her parents would dance to back home in New York and brought back memories of her time volunteering in the occupied West Bank.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Music is our language. It’s what connects us and brings us together,” she said, referring to the Global South. “It’s how we survive as a people.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kirie said the Israel-Hamas war has taken an emotional toll on her. It reminded her of her Palestinian friends. She stifled a sob as she explained that the music evoked thoughts of both ancestors and current events.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s never just the people in the room,” Kirie said. “It’s always who’s not with us in the room as well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The layered emotions aren’t unfamiliar to Al Akhbar, as war and upheaval in the Middle East have impacted band members. Khattar has, at times, felt guilty about performing, worried about his relatives in Lebanon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12030087\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-audience-2-scaled-e1741288850383.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12030087\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-audience-2-scaled-e1741288850383.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A crowd danced at a Mazikaa event in San Diego on Dec. 15, 2024. Khattar told KQED that joy was a form of resistance. \u003ccite>(Mazikaa by Salar)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I’m going to play a party, and they’re worried about tomorrow, you know?” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Persekian also missed his family in East Jerusalem and is unsure when he can visit them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It just breaks my heart because it just feels like there’s less chances of us returning or being able to be together,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Khattar’s family abroad has offered support, commenting on his Instagram posts about the band.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My relatives back home personally have reached out to me on my Stories and said, ‘Good for you,’” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For him and other band members, performing has become a means of resistance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Not only is war like an attack on infrastructure or on humans, but it’s also a psychological thing,” Khattar said. “Like, you shouldn’t be happy, and they don’t want you to be happy. So being joyful and having a good time is almost like a rebellion in itself.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Persekian agrees, viewing the band’s music as a way to keep their culture alive while it’s under siege. Gaza’s health ministry has reported that Israel’s military campaign has killed more than \u003ca href=\"https://www.ochaopt.org/content/reported-impact-snapshot-gaza-strip-4-march-2025\">48,000 Palestinians\u003c/a>, and the war has leveled the architecture of cultural life as well. \u003ca href=\"https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/14/a-cultural-genocide-which-of-gazas-heritage-sites-have-been-destroyed\">Mosques\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/14/a-cultural-genocide-which-of-gazas-heritage-sites-have-been-destroyed\">churches\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.thenation.com/article/world/gaza-students-future/\">universities\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/arts-center-in-gaza-destroyed-180984142/\">art galleries\u003c/a> have been destroyed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When your culture is being stolen, you gotta be louder than ever,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[\u003cstrong>March 9:\u003c/strong> A previous version of this story misspelled the names of Layan Amkieh, Salem Khattar, Naji Chaaban, Nour Amikeh and Mazikaa Enterprises. The story has been updated.]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Amkieh is also Syrian, and she grew up between the United States and the Middle East. She said she felt like she had to buffer her national, cultural and religious identity from others. So, in 2023, she started Mazikaa Enterprises with her sister, Nour Amikeh, in order to curate spaces where Southwest Asian and North African cultures, known as SWANA, could be celebrated in diaspora communities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When Amkieh and Persekian spoke, he broached the idea of fusion music with her. She loved it and became the band’s manager to make it happen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Persekian enlisted additional friends, including saxophone player Richard Albert IV, who goes by Riva, and bassist Hank Lee Nelson.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Albert, who grew up in Texas with Mexican and Puerto Rican parents, playing Arabic music has deepened his connection to his Latin American roots.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Those percussive elements and some of the harmonic elements [in Latin music] belong to Arabic culture that … through generations and generations are passed down,” he said. “So learning my own culture through Arabic culture…it’s such a crazy journey as well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Originally from the Bay Area, Nelson’s path to Al Akhbar was more dramatic. One night, he was out with Albert and other friends when Persekian called him in a panic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’s like, ‘Yo, the bassist dropped out. Can you pull up and play?’” Nelson recalled. He was floored.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You want me to play bass at your gig that starts in like 15 minutes?” he responded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12030108\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 1707px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-scaled.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12030108\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1707\" height=\"2560\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-scaled.jpg 1707w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-800x1200.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-1020x1530.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-160x240.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-1365x2048.jpg 1365w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Mazikaa-salar-149-2-1920x2880.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1707px) 100vw, 1707px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Persekian, a keyboardist with roots in East Jerusalem, founded Al Akhbar with drummer Naji Chaaban in San Diego. \u003ccite>(Mazikaa by Salar)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Nelson had only practiced the music once. When the concert started, he was shaking as he strummed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t know how or why, but [Nelson] killed it,” Persekian recalled of that night.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The last member to join the band was vocalist and Arab instrumentalist Salem Khattar. Growing up, Khattar’s Lebanese parents would take him to their home country in the summers. Khattar said he felt the musical spark when his grandparents took him to a music festival, where he saw a band play Arabic music live for the first time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I was obsessed with it, and I wanted to learn so bad,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>His family bought him his first \u003cem>nye\u003c/em> soon after.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Years later, while attending law school, Khattar threw himself into practicing the \u003cem>oud\u003c/em>, a lute. Like Persekian, Khattar met Amkieh, the band’s manager, at a concert, exchanging Instagram handles. Then, he joined one of their rehearsals.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"#A\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco has long been an epicenter for lesbian life and culture. Even back in the 1930s, spots like Mona’s 440 Club were known as hubs for lesbians to enjoy drag king performances and socialize. But in the past 30 years, the number of lesbian bars all over the country has seen \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101895055/why-are-there-so-few-lesbian-bars\">a steep decline\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriouspodcastinfo]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of the few remaining lesbian bars in San Francisco, there’s one spot that stands out for its longevity. The Wild Side West has been a staple of lesbian culture in the city for the past 63 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Located in the Bernal Heights neighborhood of San Francisco, The Wild Side West is an iconic spot. Inside, the bar feels like it’s always been this way, with women playing pool, kegs lining the walls, and paintings of nude women hanging from the ceiling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if there is one person who knows this bar well, it’s Timotha Doane, an 80-year-old lesbian who has been a regular at the bar since she was 24. When she walks into the bar, everyone seems to know her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12029582\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12029582\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bartender Heather Dunham works at the Wild Side West on Feb. 6, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12029585\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2500px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12029585\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2500\" height=\"833\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2.jpg 2500w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-800x267.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-1020x340.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-160x53.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-1536x512.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-2048x682.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-1920x640.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2500px) 100vw, 2500px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Left: The exterior of The Wild Side West. Right: Timotha Doane talks with fellow patrons at the Wild Side West on Jan. 28, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I come here almost every day,” Doane said with a laugh. “Sometimes I take a break. I don’t want to encourage too much drinking.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Doane said she’s had some wild nights here over the decades. She remembers when Janis Joplin was a regular and had stories to tell about many past girlfriends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s just so much history [here],” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Originally called The Wild Side, Pat Ramseyer and Nancy White were lesbian partners who founded this bar in North Oakland in 1962. Shortly after opening, they relocated the business to San Francisco and became The Wild Side \u003cem>West\u003c/em>, laying down roots in the North Beach neighborhood on Broadway.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12029588\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12029588\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Paintings hang on the wall at The Wild Side West. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While San Francisco at the time was already becoming a cultural hub for the LGBTQ community, queerness during the early 1960s was still marked by policing, discrimination and violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even in the most progressive cities, the dominant narrative around LGBTQ was that homosexuality was a sickness, a problem that needed to be handled. Doane remembers one time in New York City in the ’60s when she was targeted for her lesbian identity and masculine presentation. Several young men beat her up in broad daylight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the time The Wild Side West opened, consensual acts between same-sex individuals were still criminalized in California, and it was illegal to employ women bartenders. In San Francisco, well-known gay and lesbian watering holes were often raided by police. Officers would arrest patrons and were known to extort money from bar and club owners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12029589\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2500px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12029589\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2500\" height=\"833\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3.jpg 2500w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-800x267.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-1020x340.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-160x53.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-1536x512.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-2048x682.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-1920x640.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2500px) 100vw, 2500px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Left: Patrons play pool at Wild Side West on Jan. 28, 2025. Right: The wall behind a pool table is filled with posters and photos at The Wild Side West. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In this climate, a bar owned by lesbians, catering to the lesbian community, was bold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Wild Side West quickly became a space of joy and community for many women. It was a place where dancers from the nearby strip clubs gathered, where lesbians could find safety, and where an eccentric crowd of artists drank.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s hard to express what it means to find a refuge and respect,” Doane said. “A place where you can have fun and not worry about being attacked.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But anti-gay sentiment was still alive in San Francisco just outside the doors of the bar.[aside postID=forum_2010101906556 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/43/2024/07/M6A1369_qed-1020x680.jpg']When The Wild Side West moved to its current Bernal Heights location in 1976, some neighbors weren’t happy about it. It was not uncommon for trash, broken toilets, and bathtubs to be dumped against the door of the bar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“On a very, very regular basis, [Pat and Nancy] would have to move all of those things in order to get the bar open,” said long-time regular Mimi Caesar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat Ramseyer and Nancy White would drag the broken sinks and bathtubs to the back of the bar and turn them into art pieces or planters. Decades later, those pieces make unique seating areas for patrons, adorned with vines and surrounded by eclectic statues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12029593\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12029593\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The bar opens to a sculpture-filled garden at The Wild Side West. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In recent years, many lesbian establishments across San Francisco\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13929998/historic-lesbian-bars-san-francisco-mauds-pegs-front-anns-monas-440-tommy-vasu\"> have closed\u003c/a>, but it’s hard to know exactly why. Some people think that the rise of dating apps has made it easier to meet romantic partners, rendering physical lesbian bars less necessary. Some former lesbian bar owners cite gentrification as a root cause. Or, it could be that in a city as expensive as San Francisco, it’s hard for bars to stay afloat if they cater exclusively to women — especially gay women, many of whom have\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101895055/why-are-there-so-few-lesbian-bars\"> faced discrimination in the workplace \u003c/a>for both gender and sexuality, which can lower earnings and limit spending power.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But The Wild Side West has managed to stay open. One reason it has survived is the committed clientele. Some people have been consistently coming to the bar for 10, 20, or even 50 years, like Timotha Doane. It might also be that in recent years, more men have started going to the bar. Either way, The Wild Side West has continued to be a refuge for lesbians in a time where the LGBTQ community faces a new wave of attacks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Women come here, and they feel safe to be whoever they are, however they want to be,” Doane said. “And to me, that is a treasure that cannot be praised highly enough.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[baycuriousquestion]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"A\">\u003c/a>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Maybe you’ve seen this iconic picture of San Francisco history — two women, walking proudly in San Francisco’s gay freedom parade in 1979.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of a parade\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>They’re holding up a huge banner that says: “A day without lesbians is like a day without sunshine.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Bay Area has long been known as an epicenter for queer life — and queer women have been building community in San Francisco for almost \u003cem>100 years\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>1930s era music starts playing\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even way back in the 1930’s San Francisco already had places like Mona’s 440 Club.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> It was known as the first lesbian night club in San Francisco and it was \u003cem>the \u003c/em>destination for genderfluid lesbians. At Mona’s, drag king performances were front and center, and the club was advertised as a place “Where girls can be boys.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since then, San Francisco has seen a lot of lesbian establishments come and go. But, there is one spot that has survived the longest — The Wild Side West.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week on Bay Curious, we’re heading to the Bernal Heights bar that has been serving lesbians since 1962. We meet a longtime patron who has seen the culture of the city and the lesbian community transform over the decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m Olivia Allen-Price, stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music ends\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[SPONSOR MESSAGE]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>To tell us about lesbian history in San Francisco, we’re passing it to our very own queer reporter Ana De Almeida Amaral.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>The Wild Side West has been around for over 60 years. And while so much has changed in the decades since it opened, the inside of the bar feels like it’s always been this way. Kegs lined up against the wall, old portraits of nude women hanging from the ceiling. But the\u003cem> defining\u003c/em> characteristic of the Wild Side West is the garden. To get there you walk through the bar, out the back door and down a steep flight of wooden stairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral in tape: \u003c/strong>So there’s a sign that says Pat’s magical garden. And there is just already so many really odd pieces of art. A lot of frog statues … quite a few mannequin limbs. And then over here, there’s like an old bathtub that has been turned into a planter and it has a bunch of plants growing out of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>People sit and chat among a maze of greenery and statues. The space feels whimsical and intimate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Wild Side West is located in the Bernal Heights neighborhood of San Francisco, which for a while was known as a lesbian enclave. And while today, some may consider it to be a neighborhood dive bar, the identity of this place and the commitment of its patrons make it an institution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if there is anyone who can tell us about the history and spirit of this bar, it is Timotha Doane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>I am talking to you in the oldest lesbian bar in San Francisco, and I’m the oldest lesbian in it \u003cem>(laughs)\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>Timotha is 80 years old and has been coming to this bar for 57 years. The original owners of The Wild Side West have passed away, so Timotha is one of few people who have been coming here since its very early days. She’s someone who can talk about what it was like to be a lesbian at the time this bar was founded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I met Timotha at the bar on a weekday afternoon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music and sounds of the bar start \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>I come here almost every day. Sometimes I take a break. I don’t want to encourage too much drinking \u003cem>(laughs)\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>We sit down next to a painting of a topless woman and she starts telling me about herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>I came out when I was 18, in 1962.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>She says there were moments when being as open as she is made her a target for violence\u003cem>. \u003c/em>She told me about one instance in New York City, when she was in college in the 60’s, just a short time after she came out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane:\u003c/strong> I don’t know why this is coming up in my mind right now, but it is — walking down MacDougal Street and me and my butch self, I’ve got two women, one on each arm. On the other side of the street is a group of men my same age, 18, 19 years old. And they came across the street, got in my face. You think you don’t need a man, bitch? And beat the shit out of me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>Timotha says this was a pivotal moment of awakening for her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>So that was the beginning of it. And I just felt like I need to make being a lesbian a safe, reasonable, honest thing to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of the bar fade out\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>Being openly lesbian, like Timotha, was still a radical act in the 1960s. And even in the most progressive cities like New York and San Francisco, queer people faced discrimination and violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Cascade of archival news tape\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Clip 1: \u003c/strong>During the year 1964, we arrested 3,000 homosexuals. Don’t think you won’t get caught because this is one thing you will not get away with. And the rest of your life will be a living hell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Clip 2: \u003c/strong>The problem of homosexuality …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Clip 3: \u003c/strong>We do not employ homosexuals and if we discover homosexuals in our department, we discharge them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music starts\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>The dominant narrative around gay people was that they were sick or a problem to be dealt with. And it was in this climate, in 1962, that Pat Ramseyer and Nancy White opened The Wild Side in North Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few years later it moved to San Francisco and became the Wild Side West. Pat and Nancy were lesbians and life partners who managed to open the bar during a time when it was still illegal to employ women as bartenders in California. They’ve both since passed away, but Timotha remembers them fondly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>They were wild women, but they were also good business women. And we respected them for that. And at the time, having places for women only took courage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music fades out\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>When the bar set up shop on Broadway in North Beach, the relationship between the LGBT community and the city was … complicated. On one hand, San Francisco had already been established as a capital for gay life. But even here, the policing of queer life was pervasive and consensual acts between same-sex adults were criminalized. The police were known to extort money from gay and lesbian establishments and often raided them to arrest patrons. All of this was part of a playbook to keep queer people from freely socializing. So a bar owned by lesbians, catering to lesbians was bold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music starts\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During this era, Timotha moved to SF and found The Wild Side West.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>And I started coming to this bar when I was 24 years old. I was working as a stripper on Broadway. Just two doors up the street. So on my breaks, I would put a trench coat on over my G-string and trot on up the street.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>Since then, Wild Side West has been a place of joy and community for her. It’s where dancers gathered, where lesbians could flirt and hang out, and where an eccentric crowd of artists drank with friends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music posts\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane:\u003c/strong> It’s hard to express what it means to find a refuge. And respect and a place where you can have fun and not worry about being attacked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>But anti-gay sentiment was still-alive just outside the doors of the bar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music starts\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>In 1976, the bar moved to its current Bernal Heights location and some neighbors weren’t happy about it. Mimi, a long-time regular, remembers this era.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mimi: \u003c/strong>The folks up there who did not want a lesbian bar, would pretty much show up every morning before opening and put toilet bowls and bathtubs and sinks up against the door so that they couldn’t open it. And on a very, very regular basis, they would have to move all of those things in order to get the bar open.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>Nancy and Pat would lug the toilets and broken sinks to the backyard and transform them into planters, becoming the first pieces in their eccentric backyard collection.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Today, The Wild Side West is one of three dedicated lesbian bars in San Francisco. But there used to be many more.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Here’s Mimi again:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mimi: \u003c/strong>When I first got here, there were 10 or 11, seven-day-a-week lesbian bars. And one by one by one drifted. But almost every neighborhood in this city had them, and they all had a different flavor. But that did change.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>It’s hard to know why lesbian bars have been going out of business over the last 20 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music starts\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some people think dating apps have made it easier to meet romantic partners, making physical lesbian bars less necessary. Others say our culture has changed and lots of spaces now feel safe to queer folks. Or, it could be that in a city as expensive as San Francisco, it’s hard for bars to stay afloat if they cater exclusively to women.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the Wild Side West has endured despite the odds. One obvious explanation is the committed clientele. I mean, there are regulars who’ve been coming here 10, 20 … even 50 years … like Timotha. And in more recent years, it’s also not uncommon to see men here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music fades out\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>At the time I started coming here there weren’t any men. But economically, the dyke community couldn’t have supported it to become what it is now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>Either way, the gritty and tough spirit of this bar perseveres.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music starts\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Wild Side West is a staple of lesbian history in San Francisco and it’s the oldest, still standing lesbian bar in the city. Lesbians have gathered here for decades. It’s always been a refuge from the violence and discrimination of the outside world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>Women come here and they feel safe. And to me, that is a treasure that cannot be praised highly enough.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>As the LGBT community faces a new wave of attacks, regulars like Timotha are once again reminded of how powerful a sanctuary like this can be. They hope the Wild Side West remains a safe place for generations of lesbians to come.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>That was KQED’s Ana De Almeida Amaral.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music ends\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Special thanks to Caroline Smith, who collected tape for this episode.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bay Curious is made in San Francisco at member-supported KQED. Individual support from our audience means more than ever right now. If you’d like to help keep shows like Bay Curious going, head to \u003ca href=\"http://kqed.org/donate\">KQED.org/donate\u003c/a>. Every bit does help. Thanks!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our show is made by: Katrina Schwartz, Christopher Beale, and me, Olivia Allen-Price.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Additional engineering this week by Brian Douglas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Special thanks to those in the KQED podcasting department: Maha Sanad, Katie Springer, Alana Wilson, Jen Chien, Holly Kernan, and everyone on Team KQED.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some members of the KQED podcast team are represented by The Screen Actors Guild, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. San Francisco Northern California Local.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m Olivia Allen-Price. Have a great week!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"#A\">View the full episode transcript.\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>San Francisco has long been an epicenter for lesbian life and culture. Even back in the 1930s, spots like Mona’s 440 Club were known as hubs for lesbians to enjoy drag king performances and socialize. But in the past 30 years, the number of lesbian bars all over the country has seen \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101895055/why-are-there-so-few-lesbian-bars\">a steep decline\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003caside class=\"alignleft utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__bayCuriousPodcastShortcode__bayCurious\">\u003cimg src=https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/bayCuriousLogo.png alt=\"Bay Curious Podcast\" loading=\"lazy\" />\n \u003ca href=\"/news/series/baycurious\">Bay Curious\u003c/a> is a podcast that answers your questions about the Bay Area.\n Subscribe on \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bay-curious/id1172473406\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts\u003c/a>,\n \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/podcasts/500557090/bay-curious\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR One\u003c/a> or your favorite podcast platform.\u003c/aside>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Of the few remaining lesbian bars in San Francisco, there’s one spot that stands out for its longevity. The Wild Side West has been a staple of lesbian culture in the city for the past 63 years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Located in the Bernal Heights neighborhood of San Francisco, The Wild Side West is an iconic spot. Inside, the bar feels like it’s always been this way, with women playing pool, kegs lining the walls, and paintings of nude women hanging from the ceiling.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if there is one person who knows this bar well, it’s Timotha Doane, an 80-year-old lesbian who has been a regular at the bar since she was 24. When she walks into the bar, everyone seems to know her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12029582\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12029582\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-15-BL_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bartender Heather Dunham works at the Wild Side West on Feb. 6, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12029585\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2500px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12029585\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2500\" height=\"833\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2.jpg 2500w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-800x267.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-1020x340.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-160x53.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-1536x512.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-2048x682.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-2-1920x640.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2500px) 100vw, 2500px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Left: The exterior of The Wild Side West. Right: Timotha Doane talks with fellow patrons at the Wild Side West on Jan. 28, 2025. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I come here almost every day,” Doane said with a laugh. “Sometimes I take a break. I don’t want to encourage too much drinking.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Doane said she’s had some wild nights here over the decades. She remembers when Janis Joplin was a regular and had stories to tell about many past girlfriends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There’s just so much history [here],” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Originally called The Wild Side, Pat Ramseyer and Nancy White were lesbian partners who founded this bar in North Oakland in 1962. Shortly after opening, they relocated the business to San Francisco and became The Wild Side \u003cem>West\u003c/em>, laying down roots in the North Beach neighborhood on Broadway.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12029588\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12029588\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250205-WildSideWest-01-BL_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Paintings hang on the wall at The Wild Side West. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>While San Francisco at the time was already becoming a cultural hub for the LGBTQ community, queerness during the early 1960s was still marked by policing, discrimination and violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even in the most progressive cities, the dominant narrative around LGBTQ was that homosexuality was a sickness, a problem that needed to be handled. Doane remembers one time in New York City in the ’60s when she was targeted for her lesbian identity and masculine presentation. Several young men beat her up in broad daylight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the time The Wild Side West opened, consensual acts between same-sex individuals were still criminalized in California, and it was illegal to employ women bartenders. In San Francisco, well-known gay and lesbian watering holes were often raided by police. Officers would arrest patrons and were known to extort money from bar and club owners.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12029589\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2500px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12029589\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2500\" height=\"833\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3.jpg 2500w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-800x267.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-1020x340.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-160x53.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-1536x512.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-2048x682.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/Copy-of-KQED-side-by-side-downpage-image-3-1920x640.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2500px) 100vw, 2500px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Left: Patrons play pool at Wild Side West on Jan. 28, 2025. Right: The wall behind a pool table is filled with posters and photos at The Wild Side West. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In this climate, a bar owned by lesbians, catering to the lesbian community, was bold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Wild Side West quickly became a space of joy and community for many women. It was a place where dancers from the nearby strip clubs gathered, where lesbians could find safety, and where an eccentric crowd of artists drank.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>When The Wild Side West moved to its current Bernal Heights location in 1976, some neighbors weren’t happy about it. It was not uncommon for trash, broken toilets, and bathtubs to be dumped against the door of the bar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“On a very, very regular basis, [Pat and Nancy] would have to move all of those things in order to get the bar open,” said long-time regular Mimi Caesar.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pat Ramseyer and Nancy White would drag the broken sinks and bathtubs to the back of the bar and turn them into art pieces or planters. Decades later, those pieces make unique seating areas for patrons, adorned with vines and surrounded by eclectic statues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12029593\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12029593\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250128-WildSideWest-09-BL_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The bar opens to a sculpture-filled garden at The Wild Side West. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In recent years, many lesbian establishments across San Francisco\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/arts/13929998/historic-lesbian-bars-san-francisco-mauds-pegs-front-anns-monas-440-tommy-vasu\"> have closed\u003c/a>, but it’s hard to know exactly why. Some people think that the rise of dating apps has made it easier to meet romantic partners, rendering physical lesbian bars less necessary. Some former lesbian bar owners cite gentrification as a root cause. Or, it could be that in a city as expensive as San Francisco, it’s hard for bars to stay afloat if they cater exclusively to women — especially gay women, many of whom have\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101895055/why-are-there-so-few-lesbian-bars\"> faced discrimination in the workplace \u003c/a>for both gender and sexuality, which can lower earnings and limit spending power.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But The Wild Side West has managed to stay open. One reason it has survived is the committed clientele. Some people have been consistently coming to the bar for 10, 20, or even 50 years, like Timotha Doane. It might also be that in recent years, more men have started going to the bar. Either way, The Wild Side West has continued to be a refuge for lesbians in a time where the LGBTQ community faces a new wave of attacks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Women come here, and they feel safe to be whoever they are, however they want to be,” Doane said. “And to me, that is a treasure that cannot be praised highly enough.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003ca id=\"A\">\u003c/a>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> Maybe you’ve seen this iconic picture of San Francisco history — two women, walking proudly in San Francisco’s gay freedom parade in 1979.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of a parade\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>They’re holding up a huge banner that says: “A day without lesbians is like a day without sunshine.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Bay Area has long been known as an epicenter for queer life — and queer women have been building community in San Francisco for almost \u003cem>100 years\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>1930s era music starts playing\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even way back in the 1930’s San Francisco already had places like Mona’s 440 Club.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price:\u003c/strong> It was known as the first lesbian night club in San Francisco and it was \u003cem>the \u003c/em>destination for genderfluid lesbians. At Mona’s, drag king performances were front and center, and the club was advertised as a place “Where girls can be boys.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since then, San Francisco has seen a lot of lesbian establishments come and go. But, there is one spot that has survived the longest — The Wild Side West.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This week on Bay Curious, we’re heading to the Bernal Heights bar that has been serving lesbians since 1962. We meet a longtime patron who has seen the culture of the city and the lesbian community transform over the decades.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’m Olivia Allen-Price, stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music ends\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>[SPONSOR MESSAGE]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Olivia Allen-Price: \u003c/strong>To tell us about lesbian history in San Francisco, we’re passing it to our very own queer reporter Ana De Almeida Amaral.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>The Wild Side West has been around for over 60 years. And while so much has changed in the decades since it opened, the inside of the bar feels like it’s always been this way. Kegs lined up against the wall, old portraits of nude women hanging from the ceiling. But the\u003cem> defining\u003c/em> characteristic of the Wild Side West is the garden. To get there you walk through the bar, out the back door and down a steep flight of wooden stairs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral in tape: \u003c/strong>So there’s a sign that says Pat’s magical garden. And there is just already so many really odd pieces of art. A lot of frog statues … quite a few mannequin limbs. And then over here, there’s like an old bathtub that has been turned into a planter and it has a bunch of plants growing out of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>People sit and chat among a maze of greenery and statues. The space feels whimsical and intimate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Wild Side West is located in the Bernal Heights neighborhood of San Francisco, which for a while was known as a lesbian enclave. And while today, some may consider it to be a neighborhood dive bar, the identity of this place and the commitment of its patrons make it an institution.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And if there is anyone who can tell us about the history and spirit of this bar, it is Timotha Doane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>I am talking to you in the oldest lesbian bar in San Francisco, and I’m the oldest lesbian in it \u003cem>(laughs)\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>Timotha is 80 years old and has been coming to this bar for 57 years. The original owners of The Wild Side West have passed away, so Timotha is one of few people who have been coming here since its very early days. She’s someone who can talk about what it was like to be a lesbian at the time this bar was founded.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I met Timotha at the bar on a weekday afternoon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music and sounds of the bar start \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>I come here almost every day. Sometimes I take a break. I don’t want to encourage too much drinking \u003cem>(laughs)\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>We sit down next to a painting of a topless woman and she starts telling me about herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>I came out when I was 18, in 1962.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>She says there were moments when being as open as she is made her a target for violence\u003cem>. \u003c/em>She told me about one instance in New York City, when she was in college in the 60’s, just a short time after she came out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane:\u003c/strong> I don’t know why this is coming up in my mind right now, but it is — walking down MacDougal Street and me and my butch self, I’ve got two women, one on each arm. On the other side of the street is a group of men my same age, 18, 19 years old. And they came across the street, got in my face. You think you don’t need a man, bitch? And beat the shit out of me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>Timotha says this was a pivotal moment of awakening for her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>So that was the beginning of it. And I just felt like I need to make being a lesbian a safe, reasonable, honest thing to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Sounds of the bar fade out\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>Being openly lesbian, like Timotha, was still a radical act in the 1960s. And even in the most progressive cities like New York and San Francisco, queer people faced discrimination and violence.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Cascade of archival news tape\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Clip 1: \u003c/strong>During the year 1964, we arrested 3,000 homosexuals. Don’t think you won’t get caught because this is one thing you will not get away with. And the rest of your life will be a living hell.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Clip 2: \u003c/strong>The problem of homosexuality …\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Clip 3: \u003c/strong>We do not employ homosexuals and if we discover homosexuals in our department, we discharge them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music starts\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>The dominant narrative around gay people was that they were sick or a problem to be dealt with. And it was in this climate, in 1962, that Pat Ramseyer and Nancy White opened The Wild Side in North Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A few years later it moved to San Francisco and became the Wild Side West. Pat and Nancy were lesbians and life partners who managed to open the bar during a time when it was still illegal to employ women as bartenders in California. They’ve both since passed away, but Timotha remembers them fondly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>They were wild women, but they were also good business women. And we respected them for that. And at the time, having places for women only took courage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music fades out\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>When the bar set up shop on Broadway in North Beach, the relationship between the LGBT community and the city was … complicated. On one hand, San Francisco had already been established as a capital for gay life. But even here, the policing of queer life was pervasive and consensual acts between same-sex adults were criminalized. The police were known to extort money from gay and lesbian establishments and often raided them to arrest patrons. All of this was part of a playbook to keep queer people from freely socializing. So a bar owned by lesbians, catering to lesbians was bold.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music starts\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During this era, Timotha moved to SF and found The Wild Side West.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane: \u003c/strong>And I started coming to this bar when I was 24 years old. I was working as a stripper on Broadway. Just two doors up the street. So on my breaks, I would put a trench coat on over my G-string and trot on up the street.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ana De Almeida Amaral: \u003c/strong>Since then, Wild Side West has been a place of joy and community for her. It’s where dancers gathered, where lesbians could flirt and hang out, and where an eccentric crowd of artists drank with friends.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Music posts\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Timotha Doane:\u003c/strong> It’s hard to express what it means to find a refuge. 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"content": "\u003cp>Some years, you might spend Valentine’s Day with a romantic partner. And there are other years when Feb. 14 rolls around and you’re single.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“After all,” said Carrie Bradshaw on HBO’s \u003cem>Sex and the City\u003c/em>, “computers crash, people die, relationships fall apart.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But whether you’re single for a day or a decade, “you shouldn’t wait for a partner for your life to start,” said Nicola Slawson — a journalist who writes \u003ca href=\"https://thesinglesupplement.substack.com/\">The Single Supplement\u003c/a> newsletter for single women and the author of the new book \u003cem>Single: Living a Complete Life on Your Own Terms\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Slawson, who has been single for more than a decade, has created online communities where single people can openly share their experiences — both good and bad — about living unattached to a partner. In her newsletters, she reminds readers that, in many cases, feeling ashamed about being single is due to social pressures and that happiness comes from within — not necessarily from a relationship.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On Wednesday, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101908870/what-do-you-love-about-being-single\">Slawson spoke with Mina Kim on KQED Forum\u003c/a> to talk about why it’s so important to make the most of life regardless of your relationship status, the liberating elements of being single, and how to have real, tough conversations about what being single later in life — or when you want kids — can look like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>How being single lets you build a relationship with the most important person in your life (yourself)\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Nicola Slawson:\u003c/strong> When I was going through these relationships, I was jumping from one to another and getting my heart broken in each one. I just didn’t really think of myself and look after myself. Becoming single and learning to actually stand on my own two feet and look after myself has been incredibly empowering and beautiful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I hate when people say, “You have to love yourself before anyone else will love you,” because even when I didn’t love myself, lots of people in my life loved me. My parents loved me; my friends loved me. Learning to love myself and learning self-respect has been life-changing, but I’ve done that for myself. I haven’t done that to impress someone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the same time, I do think that when I do get into a relationship in the future, it’ll stand me in good stead that I do have all those things, and I do look after myself.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>What being single can free you from\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>I was so obsessed with getting a boyfriend when I was a teenager and in my early twenties that I would just completely ignore red flags and basically have no self-respect because I thought that having a boyfriend was the most important thing and that would give me validation. And so it’s very freeing when you realize that’s actually not true.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I think when you’re single, you really nurture your friendships and you really nurture your community. My friends are the loves of my life, and I’ve really invested in them — which I’ve been able to do because I wasn’t sort of sidetracked by a man.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s not just about “things that you do on your own,” although that is also very liberating.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>\u003cstrong>Being single will always have its ups and downs\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Sometimes, people would react to the fact that I had a newsletter called The Single Supplement, saying, “But I don’t want to be single,” “I don’t like being single,” or “I’m unhappy being single.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s not what the newsletter or my book is about. It’s not about making you feel better about being single and just ignoring all the challenges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I hope to have a romantic relationship in the future. 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It was almost like the soundtrack of my whole life was, “How am I going to have a baby?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But at the same time, I was feeling really good about being single, and I didn’t want to date just to find somebody to have a baby with — because that felt really forced and also just really awkward. So I was looking into solo motherhood, with a sperm donor, but the cost of that was really prohibitive for me. I’m a freelancer, and I just felt like I would have had to save up for years and years, and that would have been my fertility years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But luckily, I had another idea, which was when I met a lesbian couple who platonically co-parent with a gay friend — and so that was the idea in the back of my head because that worked out really well for them. Then, during the pandemic, I met a gay guy called Tom, and we quickly became really good friends. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/daniel-lurie\">Daniel Lurie\u003c/a> ran a successful campaign for San Francisco mayor by leaning into his status as an outsider, going so far as to say of Mayor \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/london-breed\">London Breed\u003c/a> and his other opponents, “Look where all their experience has gotten us.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But when Lurie takes the oath of office Wednesday afternoon, he will \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12013667/daniel-lurie-san-franciscos-next-mayor-what-will-that-look-like\">be the \u003cem>chief insider\u003c/em>\u003c/a> — inheriting responsibility for a city government with a $16 billion budget and sprawling bureaucracy with some 34,000 employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It means firing department heads who don’t align with your priorities — or inviting them \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12018056/san-francisco-public-transit-boss-jeffrey-tumlin-to-resign\">to leave\u003c/a>, hiring new ones, filling dozens of city commissions, meeting with new and old members of the Board of Supervisors and just plain getting to know the people who will be reporting to you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In recent decades, transitions from one mayor to the next in San Francisco have happened following assassinations, the election of a mayor to higher office, the sudden death of a mayor and the removal of the acting mayor for someone else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This \u003c/em>transition is pretty orderly by comparison. But even routine transitions can be rocky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10741235\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10741235\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1278\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform-400x266.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform-1440x959.jpg 1440w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform-1180x785.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform-960x639.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Former San Francisco Mayor Art Agnos. \u003ccite>(Monica Lam/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In 1988, I worked for Art Agnos when he took over as mayor for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/dianne-feinstein\">Dianne Feinstein\u003c/a>, who somewhat reluctantly left office due to term limits. Agnos and Feinstein were not allies or even friendly, and it showed in the transition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She really had a tough time with it,” Agnos said this week. “And she cleared out the office. All the furniture was gone when we got there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No desk. No conference table. Fortunately, Agnos kept some Feinstein staffers, like unpaid protocol chief Charlotte Mailliard-Swig, who helped Agnos find furniture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For months, Feinstein and Agnos had a very public argument about the $180 million deficit he inherited from her. That was not helpful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lurie will have a place to sit in his new office, but almost immediately, he’ll face \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11998404/breed-signs-15-9-billion-sf-budget-that-boosts-police-funding-cuts-from-public-health\">a massive city budget deficit\u003c/a> of more than $800 million — and he’ll be working with the people in charge of his predecessor’s spending plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12002541\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12002541\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Mayor London Breed speaks during a rally at City Hall in San Francisco on July 22, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“They kept all of Mayor Breed’s budget staff, including her budget director,” said Sean Elsbernd, Breed’s chief of staff. “And I think it would have been a disaster to try to bring in someone new this fiscal year. Hiring, budgeting analysts — just through the regular process ain’t easy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may well change once the new mayor submits his first city budget to the Board of Supervisors. But for now, that continuity will save time and minimize disruption.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, Lurie will certainly put his own imprint on the city government he leads. He’ll do that by his appointments, staff, public comments and visibility, and simply responding to inevitable crises.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there’s an old expression in politics that “you campaign in poetry and govern in prose.” It suggests that running for office requires inspirational speeches and grand ideas that captivate voters, while actually running something requires less exciting qualities like practicality, compromise and accountability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11986424\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11986424\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Daniel Lurie when he announced his candidacy for Mayor of San Francisco at the Potrero Hill Neighborhood House in San Francisco on Sept. 26, 2023. \u003ccite>(Martin do Nascimento/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Candidates can make promises or policy plans — as Lurie did — without knowing the limitations they’ll face from pending litigation they don’t have knowledge of due to attorney/client privilege.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, Lurie said he wanted to increase the use of ankle monitors to keep tabs on people awaiting trial for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12008970/its-maddening-addiction-experts-cry-foul-at-mayoral-candidates-push-for-drug-arrests\">drug-related charges\u003c/a>. “I mean, that’s, in concept, a wonderful idea,” Elsbernd said. “But there is a whole load of litigation about those right now that are significantly hampering Sheriff [Paul] Miyamoto, who’s responsible for that. The mayor is not. The sheriff is. And the judges of the Superior Court are.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>New mayors can make all the plans they want, but as Agnos often said, “When you’re mayor, you don’t choose the issues. The issues choose you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An obvious example: earthquakes or some other natural disaster that strikes unexpectedly. Lurie’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12014714/san-francisco-mayor-elect-daniel-lurie-taps-openai-founder-transition-team\">transition chief\u003c/a>, Sara Fenske Bahat, said they’ve been in touch with the Department of Emergency Management for weeks “to make sure that the team going in is connected to that team before tomorrow.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12020497\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12020497\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Mayor-elect Daniel Lurie speaks at Manny’s, a restaurant and events space in San Francisco, on Jan. 5, 2025, before a trash pickup in the Mission District, part of a weekend of service before his inauguration on Wednesday. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Fenske Bahat was working under New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani when Michael Bloomberg took over. She says it’s important for change, which Lurie is promising, to be “in the spirit of the culture of this place, right? This is a place that embraces change. This is a place that embraces outsiders. That wants to innovate. This is a place that wants to be respected for the uniqueness of the city.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jeff Cretan, Mayor Breed’s press secretary, noted that the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12019956/how-daniel-lurie-will-balance-the-need-for-insider-knowledge-with-outsider-perspective-2\">push for change\u003c/a> should be balanced with continuity for the sake of the thousands of civil servants who will continue working with the city once Breed leaves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There will be pushes for new ideas,” Cretan said. “But the key thing is to make sure that the incoming administration understands all the things that are happening in the city … and so a lot of that [transition] work is making sure people are set up for that work to continue.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cretan said a lot of the transition is making sure Lurie is “aware of what he will be facing and what his team will be facing. But I don’t think it’s our job to be like, ‘This is how you need to do your job.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_12020118 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/240819-DanielLuriePresser-03-BL_qed-1020x680.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Being a relative outsider to city government comes with one big advantage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t owe anybody anything,” Lurie told KQED. “And so, I walk into that office unencumbered.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s a mixed bag.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It means he can balance the budget by touching sacred cows that, for example, city unions might not want to see cut. At the same time, Elsbernd said, there are downsides that come with that fresh set of eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The benefit of being inside the building,” he said, “it’s not only do you see around corners, but you see around corners … and you see where the land mines are because you’ve landed on those land mines of the past.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And as former Mayor Agnos notes, the toughest issues will find you “like heat-seeking missiles.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If it’s bad news, everybody ducks, and it comes straight into the mayor’s office and Room 200 [the mayor’s office at City Hall] and hits you right between the eyes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lurie may or may not enjoy a honeymoon in the coming months, but either way, he’ll soon be held accountable for all the issues he promised to fix, including homelessness, drug overdoses and revitalizing downtown. He’ll need all the luck and goodwill he can get.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Jan. 8: A previous version of this story misstated the year that Art Agnos took office as San Francisco mayor.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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But even routine transitions can be rocky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_10741235\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10741235\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1278\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform-400x266.jpg 400w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform-1440x959.jpg 1440w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform-1180x785.jpg 1180w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/10/7323_transform-960x639.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Former San Francisco Mayor Art Agnos. \u003ccite>(Monica Lam/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In 1988, I worked for Art Agnos when he took over as mayor for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/dianne-feinstein\">Dianne Feinstein\u003c/a>, who somewhat reluctantly left office due to term limits. Agnos and Feinstein were not allies or even friendly, and it showed in the transition.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“She really had a tough time with it,” Agnos said this week. “And she cleared out the office. All the furniture was gone when we got there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No desk. No conference table. Fortunately, Agnos kept some Feinstein staffers, like unpaid protocol chief Charlotte Mailliard-Swig, who helped Agnos find furniture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For months, Feinstein and Agnos had a very public argument about the $180 million deficit he inherited from her. That was not helpful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lurie will have a place to sit in his new office, but almost immediately, he’ll face \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11998404/breed-signs-15-9-billion-sf-budget-that-boosts-police-funding-cuts-from-public-health\">a massive city budget deficit\u003c/a> of more than $800 million — and he’ll be working with the people in charge of his predecessor’s spending plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12002541\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12002541\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/08/240722-SFKamalaHarrisRally-08-BL_qed-1-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Mayor London Breed speaks during a rally at City Hall in San Francisco on July 22, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“They kept all of Mayor Breed’s budget staff, including her budget director,” said Sean Elsbernd, Breed’s chief of staff. “And I think it would have been a disaster to try to bring in someone new this fiscal year. Hiring, budgeting analysts — just through the regular process ain’t easy.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That may well change once the new mayor submits his first city budget to the Board of Supervisors. But for now, that continuity will save time and minimize disruption.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Meanwhile, Lurie will certainly put his own imprint on the city government he leads. He’ll do that by his appointments, staff, public comments and visibility, and simply responding to inevitable crises.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But there’s an old expression in politics that “you campaign in poetry and govern in prose.” It suggests that running for office requires inspirational speeches and grand ideas that captivate voters, while actually running something requires less exciting qualities like practicality, compromise and accountability.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11986424\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11986424\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/230926-DANIEL-LURIE-MD-13-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Daniel Lurie when he announced his candidacy for Mayor of San Francisco at the Potrero Hill Neighborhood House in San Francisco on Sept. 26, 2023. \u003ccite>(Martin do Nascimento/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Candidates can make promises or policy plans — as Lurie did — without knowing the limitations they’ll face from pending litigation they don’t have knowledge of due to attorney/client privilege.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For example, Lurie said he wanted to increase the use of ankle monitors to keep tabs on people awaiting trial for \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12008970/its-maddening-addiction-experts-cry-foul-at-mayoral-candidates-push-for-drug-arrests\">drug-related charges\u003c/a>. “I mean, that’s, in concept, a wonderful idea,” Elsbernd said. “But there is a whole load of litigation about those right now that are significantly hampering Sheriff [Paul] Miyamoto, who’s responsible for that. The mayor is not. The sheriff is. And the judges of the Superior Court are.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>New mayors can make all the plans they want, but as Agnos often said, “When you’re mayor, you don’t choose the issues. The issues choose you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>An obvious example: earthquakes or some other natural disaster that strikes unexpectedly. Lurie’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12014714/san-francisco-mayor-elect-daniel-lurie-taps-openai-founder-transition-team\">transition chief\u003c/a>, Sara Fenske Bahat, said they’ve been in touch with the Department of Emergency Management for weeks “to make sure that the team going in is connected to that team before tomorrow.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12020497\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12020497\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/01/250105-LurieInaugurationCleanup-17-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">San Francisco Mayor-elect Daniel Lurie speaks at Manny’s, a restaurant and events space in San Francisco, on Jan. 5, 2025, before a trash pickup in the Mission District, part of a weekend of service before his inauguration on Wednesday. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Fenske Bahat was working under New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani when Michael Bloomberg took over. She says it’s important for change, which Lurie is promising, to be “in the spirit of the culture of this place, right? This is a place that embraces change. This is a place that embraces outsiders. That wants to innovate. This is a place that wants to be respected for the uniqueness of the city.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jeff Cretan, Mayor Breed’s press secretary, noted that the \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12019956/how-daniel-lurie-will-balance-the-need-for-insider-knowledge-with-outsider-perspective-2\">push for change\u003c/a> should be balanced with continuity for the sake of the thousands of civil servants who will continue working with the city once Breed leaves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There will be pushes for new ideas,” Cretan said. “But the key thing is to make sure that the incoming administration understands all the things that are happening in the city … and so a lot of that [transition] work is making sure people are set up for that work to continue.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cretan said a lot of the transition is making sure Lurie is “aware of what he will be facing and what his team will be facing. But I don’t think it’s our job to be like, ‘This is how you need to do your job.’”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Being a relative outsider to city government comes with one big advantage.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t owe anybody anything,” Lurie told KQED. “And so, I walk into that office unencumbered.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s a mixed bag.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It means he can balance the budget by touching sacred cows that, for example, city unions might not want to see cut. At the same time, Elsbernd said, there are downsides that come with that fresh set of eyes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The benefit of being inside the building,” he said, “it’s not only do you see around corners, but you see around corners … and you see where the land mines are because you’ve landed on those land mines of the past.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And as former Mayor Agnos notes, the toughest issues will find you “like heat-seeking missiles.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If it’s bad news, everybody ducks, and it comes straight into the mayor’s office and Room 200 [the mayor’s office at City Hall] and hits you right between the eyes.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lurie may or may not enjoy a honeymoon in the coming months, but either way, he’ll soon be held accountable for all the issues he promised to fix, including homelessness, drug overdoses and revitalizing downtown. He’ll need all the luck and goodwill he can get.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Jan. 8: A previous version of this story misstated the year that Art Agnos took office as San Francisco mayor.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Every morning during the holidays, KQED’s Senior Operations Manager Tiff Mitchell wakes up her seven-year-old daughter Kahlea with a mission: find Cookie, their elf, on a shelf.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Cookie is a miniature doll with a perpetual smile dressed in a red costume with white trim. Every night, Mitchell hides Cookie in a new place. The story goes that Cookie watches Kahlea during the day and reports back to Santa at night whether she has been naughty or nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12019214\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12019214\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/IMG_2018_sized.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/IMG_2018_sized.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/IMG_2018_sized-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/IMG_2018_sized-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/IMG_2018_sized-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/IMG_2018_sized-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/IMG_2018_sized-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tiff Mitchell’s Elf on a Shelf ‘Cookie’ takes a relaxing bubble bath. \u003ccite>(Tiff Mitchell/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This is only the second year Mitchell has done Elf on a Shelf, and while both mother and daughter enjoy the tradition, Mitchell admits she has no idea where it comes from. She has questions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ Who thought of this, and how did it get here? Were there older elves?” Mitchell wondered.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Elf on a Shelf is a relatively new tradition here in the United States (it gained popularity after the publication of a \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elf_on_the_Shelf#cite_note-utk-1\">book\u003c/a> in 2005), the cute elf is a descendant of a much more mischievous and, at times, homicidal brand of elves stretching all the way back to folk tales from 15th century Scandinavia.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That, and the Scandinavian origins of other Christmas traditions, was the subject of a recent talk by Timothy Tangherlini, a professor of Scandinavian folklore at UC Berkeley.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[ad fullwidth]\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead of a college lecture hall, the talk was held at a downtown San Francisco brewery, called Bartlett Hall, as part of the Profs and Pints lecture series, which hosts college professors to talk about their field of study in bars, cafés, company offices, and other off-campus venues across the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12018925\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12018925\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1332\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL-1536x1023.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL-1920x1279.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tim Tangherlini, professor of Nordic folklore at the University of California at Berkeley, gives a talk about the historical origins of American holiday practices during a Profs and Pints event at Barlett Hall in San Francisco on Dec. 18, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“This is not something I usually do,” Tangherlini admitted at the start of the talk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“While my students might be drinking heavily while I lecture, they’re probably doing it clandestinely,” Tangherlini joked. “But I understand the beer here is very good, and I think the more beer we have, the better this lecture will be.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tangherlini said the Christmas elves we know today are folklore descendants of household spirits known throughout Scandinavia since the 15th century. They’re called \u003cem>Nisse\u003c/em> in Denmark.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The Nisse doesn’t really care about the humans,” Tangherlini said. “They really care about the farm.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They were about the size of children, had beards, were exclusively male, and were very strong — Tangherlini said they could do the work of 10 or 15 farm hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Nisse weren’t really tied to Christmas except that they would expect to get their annual bowl of porridge either on Christmas Eve or New Years,” Tangherlini said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The price for not keeping the Nisse happy could be fatal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you don’t feed him the porridge with butter, he gets pissed off in ways that you can’t even imagine,” Tangherlini explained. “They were more than mischievous. They would kill you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12018921\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12018921\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1332\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL-1536x1023.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL-1920x1279.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shalaka Phadnis listens to Tim Tangherlini, professor of Nordic folklore at the University of California at Berkeley, give a talk about the historical origins of American holiday practices during a Profs and Pints event at Barlett Hall in San Francisco on Dec. 18, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Tangherlini said the Nisse folklore also served an important function for rural farmers in helping explain their lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People try to understand why the farm over there seems to be doing so well, and you’ve got a ready-made story in the idea that ‘Oh, they must have a Nisse,’” Tangherlini said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The stories and depictions of Nisse began to change in the 1800s. Tangherlini describes it as the Nisse becoming domesticated. They lost their beards, they got smaller, cuter, and they started being associated with Christmas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s the rise of both a reading public and a middle class that has disposable income to spend on things like Christmas presents and Christmas decorations, that creates a demand for various types of decorations, and the Nisse kind of gets caught up in that,” Tangherlini said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of those decorations involved paper cutouts of Danish Nisse that had tabs on them so you could hang them on your bookshelf. Once American advertising got a hold of the Nisse, the change was irreversible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ The Coca-Cola ads of the mid-20th century are the best known, where Santa has all of these elves helping him out at the North Pole,” Tangherlini said. “Those images of elves are mapped directly from this emerging sort of commercialization and domestication of the Danish Nisse.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12018919\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12018919\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1332\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL-1536x1023.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL-1920x1279.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A crowd listens to Tim Tangherlini, professor of Nordic folklore at the University of California at Berkeley, give a talk about the historical origins of American holiday practices during a Profs and Pints event at Barlett Hall in San Francisco on Dec. 18, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Among those attending the talk was Orion West. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Instead of a college lecture hall, the talk was held at a downtown San Francisco brewery, called Bartlett Hall, as part of the Profs and Pints lecture series, which hosts college professors to talk about their field of study in bars, cafés, company offices, and other off-campus venues across the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12018925\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12018925\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1332\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL-1536x1023.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-15-BL-1920x1279.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tim Tangherlini, professor of Nordic folklore at the University of California at Berkeley, gives a talk about the historical origins of American holiday practices during a Profs and Pints event at Barlett Hall in San Francisco on Dec. 18, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“This is not something I usually do,” Tangherlini admitted at the start of the talk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“While my students might be drinking heavily while I lecture, they’re probably doing it clandestinely,” Tangherlini joked. “But I understand the beer here is very good, and I think the more beer we have, the better this lecture will be.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Tangherlini said the Christmas elves we know today are folklore descendants of household spirits known throughout Scandinavia since the 15th century. They’re called \u003cem>Nisse\u003c/em> in Denmark.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The Nisse doesn’t really care about the humans,” Tangherlini said. “They really care about the farm.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They were about the size of children, had beards, were exclusively male, and were very strong — Tangherlini said they could do the work of 10 or 15 farm hands.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Nisse weren’t really tied to Christmas except that they would expect to get their annual bowl of porridge either on Christmas Eve or New Years,” Tangherlini said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The price for not keeping the Nisse happy could be fatal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If you don’t feed him the porridge with butter, he gets pissed off in ways that you can’t even imagine,” Tangherlini explained. “They were more than mischievous. They would kill you.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12018921\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12018921\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1332\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL-1536x1023.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-11-BL-1920x1279.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shalaka Phadnis listens to Tim Tangherlini, professor of Nordic folklore at the University of California at Berkeley, give a talk about the historical origins of American holiday practices during a Profs and Pints event at Barlett Hall in San Francisco on Dec. 18, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Tangherlini said the Nisse folklore also served an important function for rural farmers in helping explain their lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People try to understand why the farm over there seems to be doing so well, and you’ve got a ready-made story in the idea that ‘Oh, they must have a Nisse,’” Tangherlini said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The stories and depictions of Nisse began to change in the 1800s. Tangherlini describes it as the Nisse becoming domesticated. They lost their beards, they got smaller, cuter, and they started being associated with Christmas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s the rise of both a reading public and a middle class that has disposable income to spend on things like Christmas presents and Christmas decorations, that creates a demand for various types of decorations, and the Nisse kind of gets caught up in that,” Tangherlini said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of those decorations involved paper cutouts of Danish Nisse that had tabs on them so you could hang them on your bookshelf. Once American advertising got a hold of the Nisse, the change was irreversible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“ The Coca-Cola ads of the mid-20th century are the best known, where Santa has all of these elves helping him out at the North Pole,” Tangherlini said. “Those images of elves are mapped directly from this emerging sort of commercialization and domestication of the Danish Nisse.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12018919\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12018919\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1332\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL-1536x1023.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/12/241217-ProfsandPints-14-BL-1920x1279.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A crowd listens to Tim Tangherlini, professor of Nordic folklore at the University of California at Berkeley, give a talk about the historical origins of American holiday practices during a Profs and Pints event at Barlett Hall in San Francisco on Dec. 18, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Among those attending the talk was Orion West. 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"content": "\u003cp>On a recent weekday afternoon, Susana Rojas showed me around La Placita, an outdoor marketplace in a city-owned parking lot at 24th and Capp streets in San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Calle 24 Latino Cultural District assembled the site after the city \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11968298/sfs-mission-street-vending-ban-begins\">banned street vending on Mission Street\u003c/a> in November. The parking lot was mostly vacant with only a few vendors displaying jewelry, clothes, accessories and toys on the day I visited. Rojas, Calle 24’s executive director, told me this was a good thing because vendors are now back on Mission Street “where they belong.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Whenever you go to any Latin American country, you will see street vendors. You see artesanias and colorful things,” Rojas said. “[Street vending] not only represents our culture, but it also provides diversity of economy in our community.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Culture can’t thrive without economic support, Rojas explained. The belief is central to Calle 24’s purpose of fostering a neighborhood where Latinx residents, entrepreneurs and immigrants feel welcomed and celebrated.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11968232\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1920px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-11968232\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/231122-MissionStVendors-06-BL.jpg\" alt=\"A man holds a neon green protest sign with several people around him on a city street.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/231122-MissionStVendors-06-BL.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/231122-MissionStVendors-06-BL-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/231122-MissionStVendors-06-BL-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/231122-MissionStVendors-06-BL-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2023/11/231122-MissionStVendors-06-BL-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Members of the recently formed Mission Vendor Association gather at the 24th Street BART plaza for a press conference in San Francisco on Nov. 22, 2023, condemning an upcoming rule banning vending on Mission Street. The ban would extend from Cesar Chavez Street to 14th Street on Mission Street, with some exceptions, and is set to begin on November 27. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The Mission’s culture, however, has been under threat for decades. Many people think efforts to combat gentrification are aimless, but Rojas disagreed. She said the community needs an organization that elevates Latinx culture now more than ever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We try to stop gentrification,” Rojas said. “We try to stop it one event at a time, one business at a time.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Calle 24’s future as an organization is also under siege. Last year, the group’s annual budget was $1.7 million. But with the city facing an $800 million budget deficit, Calle 24’s funding was slashed to $430,000 for the 2024 fiscal year. Since December, Rojas has laid off five staff members.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The group is one of nine cultural districts San Francisco funds to preserve cultural heritage, promote arts and culture, protect vulnerable tenants, have a say in land use decisions and support business and workforce development.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Calle 24, established a decade ago, spans from Mission Street to Potrero Avenue and covers the area between 22nd Street and Cesar Chavez Street.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Calle 24 sponsors numerous festivals throughout the year. It holds educational workshops on topics such as tenants rights to help struggling residents stay in their homes, and the organization is working to bring more affordable housing to the neighborhood. The group provides financial support in the form of vouchers residents can spend at nearby grocery stores.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We give a lot of resources straight to the community to keep the money circulating in the community,” Rojas said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Calle 24 also meets with prospective business owners to see how they would elevate the neighborhood’s cultural legacy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We don’t block the investment. We want investment,” Rojas said. “We’re trying to make sure that when you come to the Mission, and in particular to our district, that you are valuing and honoring the Latino heritage and you’re not looking to push us out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside label='Related Coverage' tag='latinx']Calle 24 was criticized for keeping Jon Jacobo, who has faced allegations of rape and abusive behavior from multiple women, on its board. Jacobo, who resigned in April, was first publicly accused of rape in August 2021, according to \u003ca href=\"https://missionlocal.org/2024/04/jon-jacobo-newly-accused-rape-sexual-assault-resigns-todco/\">reporting\u003c/a> by Mission Local. Rojas declined to comment on Jacobo, as the San Francisco Democratic Party \u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/new-allegations-against-s-f-politico-democrats-19552577.php\">confronts\u003c/a> sexual assault and harassment in local politics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I first met Rojas last year, I questioned how a Colombian immigrant is running the influential Calle 24. The Mission is known as San Francisco’s Latino neighborhood, but the culture has been steeped in Mexican and Central American heritage for generations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Rojas, leaning into her Latinidad was a lifeline. She spent the early part of her life in Colombia before immigrating to New York City as a child.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thirty years ago, she came to San Francisco for the first time to visit her older sister, who lived in the Mission. Rojas was 20, pregnant and engaged to a man she said was abusive. During the trip, he left a threatening voicemail on her sister’s answering machine. It was clear she needed to leave New York for her safety. 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