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"content": "\u003cp>\u003c!-- Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/ -->\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was originally published by \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/\">CalMatters\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/subscribe-to-calmatters/\">Sign up\u003c/a> for their newsletters.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Staring down a $12 billion budget deficit, Gov. Gavin Newsom \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2025/05/california-budget-revision-may-2025/\">proposed steep cuts\u003c/a> to California’s health care services and public universities — all while promising more dollars to Hollywood.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom on Wednesday doubled down on \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab1138\">his proposal to expand\u003c/a> the state’s investment in film and television tax credits, \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/3502#:~:text=California%20Adopted%20First%20Film%20Tax,credits%20under%20this%20new%20program.\">incentives created\u003c/a> by then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2009 to boost California’s marquee industry. If passed, the state would allocate up to $750 million each year to film production, up from the current $330 million.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite saying that any funding request from Los Angeles unrelated to disaster recovery would be a “non-starter,” Newsom deemed the tax credit expansion essential to reviving an ailing industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s on life support,” he told reporters. “We need to step things up, and this is all part and parcel of economic recovery, economic growth.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s plan would also increase the amount each qualified applicant can receive, extend the credit to live action and animated series and devote more money toward independent films.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But his proposal has drawn criticism from both Democrats and Republicans who argue the state should prioritize essential programs in a tight budget year. Assembly Republican Leader James Gallagher of Chico called Newsom’s proposal “tone-deaf.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m not sure the rest of California will be OK with their senior programs, their disability programs, their education programs being cut in order to prop up a regional industry,” said \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/legislators/corey-jackson-165443\">Assemblymember Corey Jackson\u003c/a>, a Moreno Valley Democrat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_12039465 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/03/250323-DEM-TOWN-HALLS-MD-13-KQED-1-1020x680.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some lawmakers warned that other states could respond with even more aggressive incentives, creating a “race to the bottom.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It seems eminently predictable that we will be back next year with a proposal that says: ‘We’ve fallen behind again. I don’t know what happened. And now we need to do more,’” said Sen. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/legislators/christopher-cabaldon-5699\">Christopher Cabaldon\u003c/a>, a Napa Democrat, in March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite those concerns, the proposal has advanced in the state Legislature with little resistance. Assemblymember Jesse Gabriel, a Los Angeles Democrat who chairs the powerful budget committee, told CalMatters that anyone seeking large funding increases this year “should stop wasting people’s time” because there isn’t enough money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s proposal is different, Gabriel said, because it would expand a longstanding, tested program that would also help offset the impact of the L.A. wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Newsom, a lame-duck governor with presidential ambitions, expanding the tax credits could please the wealthy Hollywood donors who could propel his campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the handout can easily be portrayed as a tax break for the rich.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The ads kind of make themselves,” said Kim Nalder, a political science professor at California State University, Sacramento. “It’s been effective in previous years to … use (Hollywood) as an example of unserious, privileged waste.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Saving Hollywood\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Hollywood has suffered. A “quadruple-whammy” of the COVID-19 pandemic that shut down productions, a \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/actors-strike-contract-a7a529acaf6b5b38aac93722db54c193\">Hollywood writers strike\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/capitol/2025/01/la-fires-california-legislature-bills/\">deadly wildfires\u003c/a> and growing production incentives from other states that lured movies out of California have decreased its nationwide share in film industry employment from 54% in 2010 to 46% in 2023, according to the bill analysis. Film production levels in Los Angeles also saw a \u003ca href=\"https://filmla.com/la-on-location-filming-falls-in-first-quarter/\">sharp drop-off\u003c/a> in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The industry is also struggling to compete globally, so much so that even President Donald Trump has weighed in, ordering a \u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/trump-announces-100-tariff-movies-produced-outside-us-2025-05-04/\">100% tariff on overseas productions\u003c/a>, though he has given no details. In response, Newsom has offered to work with Trump to \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/06/newsom-trump-movie-tariffs\">develop a $7.5 billion federal tax credit\u003c/a>.[aside postID=news_12040025 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/GavinNewsom2025AP2-1020x680.jpg']“I applaud President Trump for recognizing that we are losing a lot of films to foreign countries, and I hope he steps up,” Newsom said Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The proposed state film tax credit expansion has united motion picture studios and entertainment industry workers, but it is the unions that have been leading the fight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The groups backing the plan have poured at least $8.4 million into lawmakers’ coffers since 2015, including nearly $6.5 million from the \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/organizations/-2947#financials\">California State Council of Laborers\u003c/a> alone, according to an analysis of CalMatters’ Digital Democracy database. Walt Disney, a top supporter, has given nearly $750,000 to lawmakers since 2015.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dozens of unionized workers have filled legislative hearing rooms and spilled into the hallways as they testify in support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are the thousands of artisans whose names whip by in the credit roll at the end of the movie. Not those that appear in huge letters and fade slowly at the beginning of the movie. We don’t go to the award shows. We work the award shows,” \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/hearings/258945?t=896&f=9cdd49a18e32c5cbd74ef45e6426401c\">said Renata Ray\u003c/a>, representing a chapter of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nalder said that is a smart political move since labor unions hold so much political sway with Democratic lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the tax credit expansion “touches both the struggling workers as well as international mega-stars,” said Thad Kousser, a political science professor at University of California-San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, the funding could backfire on Newsom as he eyes a potential White House run in 2028.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’ve got to think about policies’ effect on your core supporters … but also the average voters in places like Iowa, New Hampshire, who may not see someone who’s helping bail out Hollywood as someone taking the nation in the direction they want to see,” Kousser said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Do film tax credits work?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>California’s film tax credit was created \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/3502#Economic_Effects:~:text=California%20Adopted%20First,this%20new%20program.\">in response to other states’ incentives\u003c/a>. As of last year, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ncsl.org/fiscal/state-film-and-television-incentive-programs\">37 states\u003c/a> had similar incentives. California’s program is often compared to the unlimited tax credit in Georgia, a frequent destination for film production, and New York’s incentives, which were raised last week, from $700 million to \u003ca href=\"https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/new-york-aims-large-scale-producers-indie-projects-film-subsidy-boost-1236212240/\">$800 million a year\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But California’s program is unique: It is the only state to \u003ca href=\"https://film.ca.gov/tax-credit/jobs-ratio-ranking/\">award credits based on the likelihood\u003c/a> of a project creating jobs and boosting the economy. It is also one of the few states to prohibit using the tax credits to pay “above-the-line” crews, such as directors, actors or writers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The nonpartisan \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/5000\">Legislative Analyst’s Office said\u003c/a> there is “good evidence that tax credits increase production activity” and it could increase the size of the state’s film industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That is partly because some studios choose to film elsewhere when they are denied tax incentives. Between 2011 and 2013, roughly two thirds of the applicants who did not receive tax credits in California shot out of state, \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/reports/2016/3502/First-Film-Tax-Credit-Prog-092916.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">according to a 2016 report\u003c/a> by the legislative analyst. And between 2020 and 2023, almost 60% of applicants who were denied the tax credits produced out of state, according to \u003ca href=\"https://cdn.film.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Progress-Report-2023.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a 2023 report by the California Film Commission\u003c/a>, which administers the credits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But would the tax credit boost the state’s broader economy? Research is mixed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/08912424211000127\">A study of California’s first film tax credit program\u003c/a>, which used a lottery system to award credits, found major studios that received the incentives spent and hired more in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters of the California proposal, such as Assembly Democratic Caucus Chair Rick Zbur, a Los Angeles lawmaker who introduced the legislation — argue that the program “pays for itself.” They \u003ca href=\"https://laedc.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/LAEDC-Report_CA-Film-TV-Tax-Credit-Program-2.0_FINAL_2022.03.14.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">frequently cite a 2023 analysis\u003c/a> by the nonprofit Los Angeles Economic Development Corporation which concluded that for every dollar the state spent on the tax credits, state and local governments collected $1.07 in tax revenue. It also said each dollar invested led to $24.40 in economic activity and $8.60 in increased wages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Every show that shoots in California supports hundreds of jobs. It pumps money into local economies from lumber yards to restaurants, from car rentals to dry cleaners,” said Ed Lammi, a former Sony Pictures Television executive, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/commentary/2025/05/hollywood-industry-job-tax-credit/\">in an opinion piece citing the research\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study was prepared for the Motion Picture Association, one of the legislation’s top supporters. The association has given lawmakers $168,000 since 2015, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/financials?giver%5B%5D=oid--8112\">Digital Democracy data shows\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But while some studies show some evidence that filmmakers are drawn to states with better incentives, the legislative analyst’s office and most researchers have concluded that \u003ca href=\"https://www.tax.ny.gov/pdf/research/economic-impact-of-tax-incentive-programs.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">states almost always lose money\u003c/a> on \u003ca href=\"https://www.audits.ga.gov/ReportSearch/download/30438?_gl=1*fcit89*_ga*MTYxMTU0MTYxNy4xNzQwNDE0MTE3*_ga_8Z4RV13R5J*MTc0MzUzMTAxOS40LjAuMTc0MzUzMTAxOS4wLjAuMA..*_ga_65FL79Y113*MTc0MzUzMTAxOS40LjAuMTc0MzUzMTAxOS42MC4wLjA\">such programs\u003c/a>, and that the credits have little to no effect on a state’s \u003ca href=\"https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0275074016651958\">economic growth\u003c/a> or its \u003ca href=\"https://www.nber.org/papers/w25963\">job market\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Michael Thom, a professor at the University of Southern California, wrote to \u003ca href=\"https://srev.senate.ca.gov/system/files/2025-03/testimony-prof-michael-thom.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">lawmakers in March\u003c/a> that his research showed the programs generally failed to create jobs or increase wages. “Simply put, California cannot afford the existing incentive, much less a substantial expansion to it,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mike Gatto, a Los Angeles Democrat who authored the first expansion of the film tax credit program in 2014, said he is skeptical about subsidizing the film industry without addressing the root causes of its problems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is doubtful that the amount of money that the state gives to this industry proves to be something that we get back,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This article was \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2025/05/california-film-tax-credit-gavin-newsom-hollywood/\">originally published on CalMatters\u003c/a> and was republished under the \u003ca href=\"https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/\">Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives\u003c/a> license.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s on life support,” he told reporters. “We need to step things up, and this is all part and parcel of economic recovery, economic growth.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s plan would also increase the amount each qualified applicant can receive, extend the credit to live action and animated series and devote more money toward independent films.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But his proposal has drawn criticism from both Democrats and Republicans who argue the state should prioritize essential programs in a tight budget year. Assembly Republican Leader James Gallagher of Chico called Newsom’s proposal “tone-deaf.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’m not sure the rest of California will be OK with their senior programs, their disability programs, their education programs being cut in order to prop up a regional industry,” said \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/legislators/corey-jackson-165443\">Assemblymember Corey Jackson\u003c/a>, a Moreno Valley Democrat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some lawmakers warned that other states could respond with even more aggressive incentives, creating a “race to the bottom.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It seems eminently predictable that we will be back next year with a proposal that says: ‘We’ve fallen behind again. I don’t know what happened. And now we need to do more,’” said Sen. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/legislators/christopher-cabaldon-5699\">Christopher Cabaldon\u003c/a>, a Napa Democrat, in March.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite those concerns, the proposal has advanced in the state Legislature with little resistance. Assemblymember Jesse Gabriel, a Los Angeles Democrat who chairs the powerful budget committee, told CalMatters that anyone seeking large funding increases this year “should stop wasting people’s time” because there isn’t enough money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Newsom’s proposal is different, Gabriel said, because it would expand a longstanding, tested program that would also help offset the impact of the L.A. wildfires.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Newsom, a lame-duck governor with presidential ambitions, expanding the tax credits could please the wealthy Hollywood donors who could propel his campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But the handout can easily be portrayed as a tax break for the rich.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The ads kind of make themselves,” said Kim Nalder, a political science professor at California State University, Sacramento. “It’s been effective in previous years to … use (Hollywood) as an example of unserious, privileged waste.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Saving Hollywood\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Hollywood has suffered. A “quadruple-whammy” of the COVID-19 pandemic that shut down productions, a \u003ca href=\"https://apnews.com/article/actors-strike-contract-a7a529acaf6b5b38aac93722db54c193\">Hollywood writers strike\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/capitol/2025/01/la-fires-california-legislature-bills/\">deadly wildfires\u003c/a> and growing production incentives from other states that lured movies out of California have decreased its nationwide share in film industry employment from 54% in 2010 to 46% in 2023, according to the bill analysis. Film production levels in Los Angeles also saw a \u003ca href=\"https://filmla.com/la-on-location-filming-falls-in-first-quarter/\">sharp drop-off\u003c/a> in recent years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The industry is also struggling to compete globally, so much so that even President Donald Trump has weighed in, ordering a \u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/trump-announces-100-tariff-movies-produced-outside-us-2025-05-04/\">100% tariff on overseas productions\u003c/a>, though he has given no details. In response, Newsom has offered to work with Trump to \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/06/newsom-trump-movie-tariffs\">develop a $7.5 billion federal tax credit\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“I applaud President Trump for recognizing that we are losing a lot of films to foreign countries, and I hope he steps up,” Newsom said Wednesday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The proposed state film tax credit expansion has united motion picture studios and entertainment industry workers, but it is the unions that have been leading the fight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The groups backing the plan have poured at least $8.4 million into lawmakers’ coffers since 2015, including nearly $6.5 million from the \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/organizations/-2947#financials\">California State Council of Laborers\u003c/a> alone, according to an analysis of CalMatters’ Digital Democracy database. Walt Disney, a top supporter, has given nearly $750,000 to lawmakers since 2015.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Dozens of unionized workers have filled legislative hearing rooms and spilled into the hallways as they testify in support.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are the thousands of artisans whose names whip by in the credit roll at the end of the movie. Not those that appear in huge letters and fade slowly at the beginning of the movie. We don’t go to the award shows. We work the award shows,” \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/hearings/258945?t=896&f=9cdd49a18e32c5cbd74ef45e6426401c\">said Renata Ray\u003c/a>, representing a chapter of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nalder said that is a smart political move since labor unions hold so much political sway with Democratic lawmakers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And the tax credit expansion “touches both the struggling workers as well as international mega-stars,” said Thad Kousser, a political science professor at University of California-San Diego.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, the funding could backfire on Newsom as he eyes a potential White House run in 2028.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“You’ve got to think about policies’ effect on your core supporters … but also the average voters in places like Iowa, New Hampshire, who may not see someone who’s helping bail out Hollywood as someone taking the nation in the direction they want to see,” Kousser said.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Do film tax credits work?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>California’s film tax credit was created \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/3502#Economic_Effects:~:text=California%20Adopted%20First,this%20new%20program.\">in response to other states’ incentives\u003c/a>. As of last year, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ncsl.org/fiscal/state-film-and-television-incentive-programs\">37 states\u003c/a> had similar incentives. California’s program is often compared to the unlimited tax credit in Georgia, a frequent destination for film production, and New York’s incentives, which were raised last week, from $700 million to \u003ca href=\"https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/new-york-aims-large-scale-producers-indie-projects-film-subsidy-boost-1236212240/\">$800 million a year\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But California’s program is unique: It is the only state to \u003ca href=\"https://film.ca.gov/tax-credit/jobs-ratio-ranking/\">award credits based on the likelihood\u003c/a> of a project creating jobs and boosting the economy. It is also one of the few states to prohibit using the tax credits to pay “above-the-line” crews, such as directors, actors or writers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The nonpartisan \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/5000\">Legislative Analyst’s Office said\u003c/a> there is “good evidence that tax credits increase production activity” and it could increase the size of the state’s film industry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That is partly because some studios choose to film elsewhere when they are denied tax incentives. Between 2011 and 2013, roughly two thirds of the applicants who did not receive tax credits in California shot out of state, \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/reports/2016/3502/First-Film-Tax-Credit-Prog-092916.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">according to a 2016 report\u003c/a> by the legislative analyst. And between 2020 and 2023, almost 60% of applicants who were denied the tax credits produced out of state, according to \u003ca href=\"https://cdn.film.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Progress-Report-2023.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a 2023 report by the California Film Commission\u003c/a>, which administers the credits.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But would the tax credit boost the state’s broader economy? Research is mixed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/08912424211000127\">A study of California’s first film tax credit program\u003c/a>, which used a lottery system to award credits, found major studios that received the incentives spent and hired more in California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters of the California proposal, such as Assembly Democratic Caucus Chair Rick Zbur, a Los Angeles lawmaker who introduced the legislation — argue that the program “pays for itself.” They \u003ca href=\"https://laedc.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/LAEDC-Report_CA-Film-TV-Tax-Credit-Program-2.0_FINAL_2022.03.14.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">frequently cite a 2023 analysis\u003c/a> by the nonprofit Los Angeles Economic Development Corporation which concluded that for every dollar the state spent on the tax credits, state and local governments collected $1.07 in tax revenue. It also said each dollar invested led to $24.40 in economic activity and $8.60 in increased wages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Every show that shoots in California supports hundreds of jobs. It pumps money into local economies from lumber yards to restaurants, from car rentals to dry cleaners,” said Ed Lammi, a former Sony Pictures Television executive, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/commentary/2025/05/hollywood-industry-job-tax-credit/\">in an opinion piece citing the research\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The study was prepared for the Motion Picture Association, one of the legislation’s top supporters. The association has given lawmakers $168,000 since 2015, \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/financials?giver%5B%5D=oid--8112\">Digital Democracy data shows\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But while some studies show some evidence that filmmakers are drawn to states with better incentives, the legislative analyst’s office and most researchers have concluded that \u003ca href=\"https://www.tax.ny.gov/pdf/research/economic-impact-of-tax-incentive-programs.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">states almost always lose money\u003c/a> on \u003ca href=\"https://www.audits.ga.gov/ReportSearch/download/30438?_gl=1*fcit89*_ga*MTYxMTU0MTYxNy4xNzQwNDE0MTE3*_ga_8Z4RV13R5J*MTc0MzUzMTAxOS40LjAuMTc0MzUzMTAxOS4wLjAuMA..*_ga_65FL79Y113*MTc0MzUzMTAxOS40LjAuMTc0MzUzMTAxOS42MC4wLjA\">such programs\u003c/a>, and that the credits have little to no effect on a state’s \u003ca href=\"https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0275074016651958\">economic growth\u003c/a> or its \u003ca href=\"https://www.nber.org/papers/w25963\">job market\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Michael Thom, a professor at the University of Southern California, wrote to \u003ca href=\"https://srev.senate.ca.gov/system/files/2025-03/testimony-prof-michael-thom.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">lawmakers in March\u003c/a> that his research showed the programs generally failed to create jobs or increase wages. “Simply put, California cannot afford the existing incentive, much less a substantial expansion to it,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mike Gatto, a Los Angeles Democrat who authored the first expansion of the film tax credit program in 2014, said he is skeptical about subsidizing the film industry without addressing the root causes of its problems.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It is doubtful that the amount of money that the state gives to this industry proves to be something that we get back,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This article was \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/politics/2025/05/california-film-tax-credit-gavin-newsom-hollywood/\">originally published on CalMatters\u003c/a> and was republished under the \u003ca href=\"https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/\">Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives\u003c/a> license.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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Temperatures are expected to increase slightly on Sunday, with mostly clear skies expected throughout the weekend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In most of the Bay Area, this weekend’s stronger winds shouldn’t be too much of a cause for concern about significant wildfire danger, Gass said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040544\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040544\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A group of tourists walks through Alamo Square Park during a storm in San Francisco on Feb. 4, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge.KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I wouldn’t anticipate any red flag warnings or anything like that,” he said. “The most we would issue would be a wind advisory, but we’re still several days out from that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That same system, however, prompted the NWS to issue a \u003ca href=\"https://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=CAZ016&warncounty=CAC101&firewxzone=CAZ216&local_place1=8%20Miles%20NW%20Tierra%20Buena%20CA&product1=Fire+Weather+Watch&lat=39.25&lon=-121.7505\">Fire Weather Watch\u003c/a> from Sunday morning through Monday evening for a large swath of the Central Valley, stretching from Redding to Modesto. It includes much of Solano County, where grasses have already started to dry out and are at heightened risk for rapid fire spread, amid strong winds and dry air.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E said it is not planning any public safety power shut-offs this weekend, but noted that its meteorology team is forecasting “an elevated risk for wildfires for portions of PG&E’s service area this weekend and early next week.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The utility is enabling what it calls “enhanced powerline safety settings” on more than 600 electric circuits, which can automatically cut power within a tenth of a second to lines hit by a falling tree branch, for example.[aside postID=science_1996746 hero='https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/35/2021/03/RS48091_GettyImages-507138914-qut-1020x686.jpg']This weekend’s winds are not the first since the end of the rainy season, Gass noted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This isn’t anything too significant,” he said. “But it will continue to dry the fuels out.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Despite a mostly dry January, precipitation levels throughout the region this year were only slightly below average, with the notable exception of the South Bay, where rainfall in many areas was less than 70% of normal, Gass said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That said, the windy weekend ahead should serve as a reminder that the region is entering its annual period of heightened fire risk, said Robert Foxworthy, a Cal Fire information officer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’re starting to get to those times where we want the public to be aware and folks to know those conditions are increasing, and be ready and be safe when you’re operating out in those areas,” he said. We’re starting to see an increase in fire behavior and fire activity, or at least a concern of that in Northern California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But Foxworthy is resistant to declaring an official start of fire season.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We’ve already had a lot of fires this year,” he said, noting that \u003ca href=\"https://www.fire.ca.gov/our-impact/statistics\">more than 63,000 acres\u003c/a> have burned across the state since January. “So I wouldn’t say it’s ‘the start of the fire season.’ Because we have the ability to have fires all the time throughout the year.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>High temperatures on Saturday will be in the mid- to upper-50s along the immediate coastline and mid-70s farther inland, with overnight lows in the upper-40s to lower-50s, Gass said. Temperatures are expected to increase slightly on Sunday, with mostly clear skies expected throughout the weekend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In most of the Bay Area, this weekend’s stronger winds shouldn’t be too much of a cause for concern about significant wildfire danger, Gass said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040544\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040544\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/240204-Storm-11-BL_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A group of tourists walks through Alamo Square Park during a storm in San Francisco on Feb. 4, 2024. \u003ccite>(Beth LaBerge.KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“I wouldn’t anticipate any red flag warnings or anything like that,” he said. “The most we would issue would be a wind advisory, but we’re still several days out from that.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That same system, however, prompted the NWS to issue a \u003ca href=\"https://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=CAZ016&warncounty=CAC101&firewxzone=CAZ216&local_place1=8%20Miles%20NW%20Tierra%20Buena%20CA&product1=Fire+Weather+Watch&lat=39.25&lon=-121.7505\">Fire Weather Watch\u003c/a> from Sunday morning through Monday evening for a large swath of the Central Valley, stretching from Redding to Modesto. It includes much of Solano County, where grasses have already started to dry out and are at heightened risk for rapid fire spread, amid strong winds and dry air.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>PG&E said it is not planning any public safety power shut-offs this weekend, but noted that its meteorology team is forecasting “an elevated risk for wildfires for portions of PG&E’s service area this weekend and early next week.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The utility is enabling what it calls “enhanced powerline safety settings” on more than 600 electric circuits, which can automatically cut power within a tenth of a second to lines hit by a falling tree branch, for example.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Standing over a gas burner in his outdoor kitchen in South Pasadena, Hong Pham toasted an onion and a whole ginger root until they were smoky and black.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Every Vietnamese household needs a kitchen in their backyard or garage to do the “smelly cooking,” he joked, emphasizing that charring the aromatics is key to enhancing the flavor of \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em>, a Vietnamese chicken and glass noodle soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The dish is comfort in a bowl — and special to Hong and his family, who are among the diaspora of people who fled Vietnam after the war ended a half century ago and \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12037680/san-jose-became-home-betty-duong-vietnamese-americans\">settled in places like California\u003c/a>. \u003cem>Miến gà \u003c/em>was one of the first homemade meals his family had together after reuniting at a refugee camp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I had a miserable cold this winter and was searching for a recipe for \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em> when I found one posted by Hong and his wife, Kim Dao, on \u003ca href=\"https://theravenouscouple.com/2013/04/mien-ga-vietnamese-chicken-glass-noodle-soup.html\">The Ravenous Couple\u003c/a>, their popular food blog, YouTube videos and Instagram account.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alongside the recipe, Hong shares a story his father, Tung, told him about the soup’s connection to April 30, the day Saigon fell to communist forces, and his life began to unravel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because he had served in the South Vietnamese Army, Tung was sent to a Viet Cong re-education camp as punishment for supporting the Americans’ war effort. He endured three years of starvation and hard labor, separated from his family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036298\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12036298\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hong Pham serves miến gà at his home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When he got out, Tung tried to make a living as a teacher, but he barely scraped by. In March 1980, he decided to escape, joining the exodus of \u003ca href=\"https://refugees.org/50-years-after-the-fall-of-saigon-refugee-stories-from-vietnam/\">Vietnamese refugees who fled their homeland\u003c/a> by boat. Because he could only afford three spots on an overcrowded fishing boat, Tung took his two eldest kids — Hong, who was almost 6 at the time, and his 9-year-old sister, Tam — and left behind his pregnant wife, Ly, and another daughter, Hong Ngoc, who was barely 2.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My mom and dad were OK with splitting up the family, even though they had no idea when — how — at what point in the future, if ever, they would see each other again,” Hong said. “For them to make that decision [when they were] in their 30s was unimaginable to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hong and Kim started their blog 16 years ago when they were still dating. They were craving Vietnamese food and wanted to learn how to recreate the dishes their moms cooked for them. Hong’s mom cooked intuitively, using everyday kitchen tools like rice bowls to measure her ingredients, so he decided to write down her methods so he could follow her recipes precisely. Kim helped convert the amounts into the American system of cooking measurements.[aside postID=news_12037680 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20240403_BETTYDUONG_GC-12-KQED-1020x680.jpg']This drew Hong closer to his mom, especially after he moved away from home in Michigan, where the family resettled after coming to America. He often calls her when he’s cooking to get her advice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When he went to college and came home to visit during breaks, his mom often greeted him by asking, “Have you eaten?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I would just answer her yes or no, and didn’t think much about it. But now, as a parent, I know what she really meant. It was her way of nourishing us and showing her love and affection,” he said. “And so now that we both cook, we’re so much tighter because of our cooking.”\u003cem> \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a daughter of Vietnamese immigrants, I can relate. My parents, brother and I traveled by plane to the United States in 1984 as part of a later wave of refugees who were admitted to the country under the Orderly Departure Program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whenever we call each other, my parents always first ask, “Have you eaten?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I had been a longtime admirer of The Ravenous Couple and their culinary adventures. After finding the recipe for \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em> and reading his dad’s story, I reached out to Hong. He was as open and friendly as he seemed online, and he invited me to come cook with him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036304\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12036304 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"667\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01-800x267.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01-1020x340.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01-160x53.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01-1536x512.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01-1920x640.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hong Pham picks fresh Chinese chives from his backyard herb garden as he prepares miến gà at his home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>We moved from his backyard kitchen to his brightly lit indoor kitchen to continue making the soup. Hong called his mom on FaceTime at her home in suburban Detroit to ask how much dry bean thread noodles to use in the dish, because they quickly expand in water. I asked her to share her memories of her family’s flight from Vietnam.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ly said in Vietnamese that after Tung left, she waited anxiously for news. Tung and the children went on a boat led by the same smuggling organization her other family members hired to get to a safer shore. The group was reputable, but there were reasons to worry: The journey was dangerous and an untold number of refugees lost their lives to dehydration, starvation, pirate attacks or rough seas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About 10 days later, a man working for the leader of the smuggling operation came to her door. He said that during the journey to Thailand, Tung begged the leader to bring his wife and toddler on the next trip out of Vietnam, and he agreed.[aside postID=news_12037891 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/Paris-By-Night-Ilo_3-1020x659.jpg']Ly said she couldn’t afford to go, but the man urged her to quickly come up with a payment and leave while she was still five months pregnant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He told me if I refused to go, it was my fault because [the ringleader] was trying to keep his promise to my husband,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With her mom’s help, Ly borrowed enough gold — the most desirable currency in post-war Vietnam — from neighbors and friends to board a boat with about 90 other refugees, with Hong Ngoc on her lap.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ly said the sea was calm and the boat was so overloaded that she could stretch her arm and touch the water. They quickly ran out of food and water, so she fed her daughter a citrus syrup she had made for the trip, so she wouldn’t cry from thirst and hunger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They traveled for three days and two nights before landing on an island near the Thai-Cambodian border. Ly said authorities eventually transported her group to a refugee camp in Laem Sing, a district in eastern Thailand. She and Hong Ngoc arrived on April 30, 1980, five years after the Fall of Saigon. She recalled seeing Tung, Hong and Tam in the crowd of people rushing to welcome the latest load of survivors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036305\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12036305 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"667\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02-800x267.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02-1020x340.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02-160x53.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02-1536x512.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02-1920x640.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hong Pham chars ginger and onion over his outdoor stove to flavor the broth for miến gà, a Vietnamese chicken and glass noodle soup, at his home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We were so overcome with emotions, we just hugged each other and cried,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vietnamese refugees consider April 30 a day of mourning. They call it “Black April” because it was the day they lost their country. But for the Phams, it was also a day of rebirth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So many people were lost at sea … so for our family to be able to reunite like that was really a miracle,” Hong said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because of the secrecy surrounding the escape, they never learned the name of the smuggling operation’s leader. He was only known as “Anh Bo.” Hong and his sister, Tam, said they wish they could thank him for bringing their family together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He could have taken anybody, but he kept his word. Even to this day, that means a lot,” Tam said by phone from her home outside Detroit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Once reunited, the family stayed in Thailand for several more months so Ly could give birth. Tung named their new baby girl Tudo, or \u003cem>tự do,\u003c/em> which means freedom in Vietnamese.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12038139\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12038139\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1962\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED-800x785.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED-1020x1001.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED-160x157.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED-1536x1507.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED-1920x1884.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A photo of the Pham family in the early 1980s after they were resettled in Michigan. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Hong Pham)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At the refugee camp, the family received daily rations of food. Ly said one day, each person received a piece of chicken, so she put everyone’s portion together to make \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the blog, Tung described feeling grateful to eat \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em> with his family, reunited and free.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Thinking what could have been and the remote odds of seeing my family together so soon, I ate this simple dish with such happiness,” he said. “It was the most satisfying and unforgettable meal I’ve ever experienced.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ly said she was thankful to her brother, who was the first in her family to arrive in the United States, for sending the money to the refugee camp so she could buy the noodles and other ingredients for the soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At home in South Pasadena, Hong used a whole chicken — head and feet intact — he bought from a fresh poultry store to make his version of \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em>. He placed the chicken in a boiling pot of broth, threw in the charred onion and ginger and reduced the stock to a simmer. Once the chicken was cooked, about 30 minutes later, he lifted it out of the pot and submerged it in a bowl of ice water.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12038059\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12038059 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hong Pham cuts Chinese chives as he prepares miến gà at his home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. A photo on the fridge shows Pham and his family at a refugee camp in Thailand in 1980 after they escaped Vietnam and before they resettled in the United States. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Next, he placed the translucent noodles into a handmade ceramic bowl, ladled in the broth and seasoned it with pungent fish sauce. He garnished the soup with chicken, shiitake mushrooms, fried shallots, scallions and fresh chives picked from his herb garden.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said his mom used to scoff at his precise plating technique and his insistence on pairing certain dishes with ceramic pieces that he made — a hobby he picked up during the pandemic — to make sure they “look pretty for the ‘Gram.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s a generational difference, Hong said, because his mom had to cook for survival, whereas he has the luxury of consuming food “with more intention.” We gathered around his dining table and slurped \u003cem>miến gà \u003c/em>with Hong’s daughters, Mira and Emi. The noodles were slippery and the soup had an intense chicken flavor combined with the umami of shiitake mushrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After Tudo was born, the Phams were admitted to the United States as refugees and resettled in Michigan with the support of a Catholic charity. They rented a house in suburban Detroit. Tung worked as a janitor and assembled machinery parts at a factory, while Ly stayed home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I came here, I didn’t know one word of English, and I didn’t know how to drive. I didn’t know anything,” she said. “But I tried to raise my kids and teach them Vietnamese so they wouldn’t lose their cultural heritage.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036300\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12036300 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mira Pham, 7, helps her dad, Hong Pham, set the table to eat miến gà at their home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When the children went to school full-time, she went back to work as a butcher, a trade she did in the wet markets of Vietnam, this time at a Jewish deli. She also volunteered at her Catholic church, often by making and selling Vietnamese food to raise money for various causes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My children didn’t understand why I spent so much time in church,” she said. “I explained that before we left, I prayed to God that if He delivers our family to safety, I would do everything I could to serve my faith.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The family started over with almost nothing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hong remembers wearing secondhand clothes for years because his parents were saving money to pay back their debt. For their first Christmas, his parents wrapped empty boxes and put them under a donated tree because they couldn’t afford to buy gifts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My mom mentioned that when we first arrived, the [sponsor] families didn’t know what we liked to eat and so they would give us canned peas, canned corn and things like that — and a lot of mashed potato flakes and macaroni and cheese,” Hong said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036299\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12036299 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hong Pham dishes out miến gà at his home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She didn’t know how to cook any of it, and instead used whatever she could find at American supermarkets to recreate Vietnamese food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think that was the ingenuity of that generation. She used all these American ingredients, but it was all made in a Vietnamese way,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Along the way, small acts of kindness helped the family survive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When someone noticed that Tung was taking the bus to get from one job to another, they offered him rides. Later, a sponsor gave him a used car and taught him to drive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was a collective effort, a lot of generous people in the community helped us get through a tough time,” Hong said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hong said his parents constantly reminded him and his siblings how lucky they were to be in the land of opportunity and achieve their dreams. The four kids graduated from the University of Michigan and went on to earn graduate degrees. Hong became a doctor, Tam an engineer, Ngoc a public health expert, and Tudo an attorney.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though he lives far away from his parents, Hong and his wife stay connected to their heritage by speaking Vietnamese to their daughters and by sharing food with their community. They host cooking parties in their backyard to help raise funds for charities. More recently, they made an inventive version of \u003cem>banh mi\u003c/em> with brisket and homemade pickles to support victims of the Eaton wildfire in nearby Altadena.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036302\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12036302 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Emi Pham, 10, her sister Mira, 7, and their dad, Hong Pham, eat miến gà at their home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. Miến gà is a Vietnamese chicken and glass noodle soup garnished with shiitake mushrooms, scallions, fresh chives and crispy fried shallots. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hong said Tung is 85 and no longer able to speak coherently due to a stroke. Ly takes care of him. Hong said he’s glad he recorded Tung’s memories of \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em> years ago and regrets not doing more recordings while his dad was still able to speak. He said his dad was a great storyteller and had a knack for spotting Vietnam veterans wherever they went.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He’d approach them really casually and thank them for their service, and next thing you know, they’ll have a long conversation,” Hong said. “He loved to share his stories and listen to other people’s stories as well.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If his dad could speak, Hong said he would probably say that he’s “forever grateful to America for welcoming us as a family and as a whole community.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said he also thinks Tung would be sad about the country’s tough immigration policies under President Donald Trump.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Part of me also would like to think he would be abhorrent about the current state of America, the freedoms that he escaped and risked his life and lives of his children for, slowly eroding away,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I had a miserable cold this winter and was searching for a recipe for \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em> when I found one posted by Hong and his wife, Kim Dao, on \u003ca href=\"https://theravenouscouple.com/2013/04/mien-ga-vietnamese-chicken-glass-noodle-soup.html\">The Ravenous Couple\u003c/a>, their popular food blog, YouTube videos and Instagram account.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alongside the recipe, Hong shares a story his father, Tung, told him about the soup’s connection to April 30, the day Saigon fell to communist forces, and his life began to unravel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because he had served in the South Vietnamese Army, Tung was sent to a Viet Cong re-education camp as punishment for supporting the Americans’ war effort. He endured three years of starvation and hard labor, separated from his family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036298\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12036298\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_19-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hong Pham serves miến gà at his home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When he got out, Tung tried to make a living as a teacher, but he barely scraped by. In March 1980, he decided to escape, joining the exodus of \u003ca href=\"https://refugees.org/50-years-after-the-fall-of-saigon-refugee-stories-from-vietnam/\">Vietnamese refugees who fled their homeland\u003c/a> by boat. Because he could only afford three spots on an overcrowded fishing boat, Tung took his two eldest kids — Hong, who was almost 6 at the time, and his 9-year-old sister, Tam — and left behind his pregnant wife, Ly, and another daughter, Hong Ngoc, who was barely 2.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My mom and dad were OK with splitting up the family, even though they had no idea when — how — at what point in the future, if ever, they would see each other again,” Hong said. “For them to make that decision [when they were] in their 30s was unimaginable to me.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hong and Kim started their blog 16 years ago when they were still dating. They were craving Vietnamese food and wanted to learn how to recreate the dishes their moms cooked for them. Hong’s mom cooked intuitively, using everyday kitchen tools like rice bowls to measure her ingredients, so he decided to write down her methods so he could follow her recipes precisely. Kim helped convert the amounts into the American system of cooking measurements.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>This drew Hong closer to his mom, especially after he moved away from home in Michigan, where the family resettled after coming to America. He often calls her when he’s cooking to get her advice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When he went to college and came home to visit during breaks, his mom often greeted him by asking, “Have you eaten?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I would just answer her yes or no, and didn’t think much about it. But now, as a parent, I know what she really meant. It was her way of nourishing us and showing her love and affection,” he said. “And so now that we both cook, we’re so much tighter because of our cooking.”\u003cem> \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As a daughter of Vietnamese immigrants, I can relate. My parents, brother and I traveled by plane to the United States in 1984 as part of a later wave of refugees who were admitted to the country under the Orderly Departure Program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Whenever we call each other, my parents always first ask, “Have you eaten?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I had been a longtime admirer of The Ravenous Couple and their culinary adventures. After finding the recipe for \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em> and reading his dad’s story, I reached out to Hong. He was as open and friendly as he seemed online, and he invited me to come cook with him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036304\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12036304 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"667\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01-800x267.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01-1020x340.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01-160x53.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01-1536x512.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-01-1920x640.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hong Pham picks fresh Chinese chives from his backyard herb garden as he prepares miến gà at his home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>We moved from his backyard kitchen to his brightly lit indoor kitchen to continue making the soup. Hong called his mom on FaceTime at her home in suburban Detroit to ask how much dry bean thread noodles to use in the dish, because they quickly expand in water. I asked her to share her memories of her family’s flight from Vietnam.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ly said in Vietnamese that after Tung left, she waited anxiously for news. Tung and the children went on a boat led by the same smuggling organization her other family members hired to get to a safer shore. The group was reputable, but there were reasons to worry: The journey was dangerous and an untold number of refugees lost their lives to dehydration, starvation, pirate attacks or rough seas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>About 10 days later, a man working for the leader of the smuggling operation came to her door. He said that during the journey to Thailand, Tung begged the leader to bring his wife and toddler on the next trip out of Vietnam, and he agreed.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Ly said she couldn’t afford to go, but the man urged her to quickly come up with a payment and leave while she was still five months pregnant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He told me if I refused to go, it was my fault because [the ringleader] was trying to keep his promise to my husband,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With her mom’s help, Ly borrowed enough gold — the most desirable currency in post-war Vietnam — from neighbors and friends to board a boat with about 90 other refugees, with Hong Ngoc on her lap.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ly said the sea was calm and the boat was so overloaded that she could stretch her arm and touch the water. They quickly ran out of food and water, so she fed her daughter a citrus syrup she had made for the trip, so she wouldn’t cry from thirst and hunger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They traveled for three days and two nights before landing on an island near the Thai-Cambodian border. Ly said authorities eventually transported her group to a refugee camp in Laem Sing, a district in eastern Thailand. She and Hong Ngoc arrived on April 30, 1980, five years after the Fall of Saigon. She recalled seeing Tung, Hong and Tam in the crowd of people rushing to welcome the latest load of survivors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036305\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12036305 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"667\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02-800x267.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02-1020x340.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02-160x53.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02-1536x512.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_DIPTYCH-02-1920x640.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hong Pham chars ginger and onion over his outdoor stove to flavor the broth for miến gà, a Vietnamese chicken and glass noodle soup, at his home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We were so overcome with emotions, we just hugged each other and cried,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Vietnamese refugees consider April 30 a day of mourning. They call it “Black April” because it was the day they lost their country. But for the Phams, it was also a day of rebirth.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“So many people were lost at sea … so for our family to be able to reunite like that was really a miracle,” Hong said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because of the secrecy surrounding the escape, they never learned the name of the smuggling operation’s leader. He was only known as “Anh Bo.” Hong and his sister, Tam, said they wish they could thank him for bringing their family together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“He could have taken anybody, but he kept his word. Even to this day, that means a lot,” Tam said by phone from her home outside Detroit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Once reunited, the family stayed in Thailand for several more months so Ly could give birth. Tung named their new baby girl Tudo, or \u003cem>tự do,\u003c/em> which means freedom in Vietnamese.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12038139\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12038139\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1962\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED-800x785.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED-1020x1001.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED-160x157.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED-1536x1507.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/250429-Mien-Ga-Memories-02-KQED-1920x1884.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A photo of the Pham family in the early 1980s after they were resettled in Michigan. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Hong Pham)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>At the refugee camp, the family received daily rations of food. Ly said one day, each person received a piece of chicken, so she put everyone’s portion together to make \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the blog, Tung described feeling grateful to eat \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em> with his family, reunited and free.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Thinking what could have been and the remote odds of seeing my family together so soon, I ate this simple dish with such happiness,” he said. “It was the most satisfying and unforgettable meal I’ve ever experienced.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ly said she was thankful to her brother, who was the first in her family to arrive in the United States, for sending the money to the refugee camp so she could buy the noodles and other ingredients for the soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At home in South Pasadena, Hong used a whole chicken — head and feet intact — he bought from a fresh poultry store to make his version of \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em>. He placed the chicken in a boiling pot of broth, threw in the charred onion and ginger and reduced the stock to a simmer. Once the chicken was cooked, about 30 minutes later, he lifted it out of the pot and submerged it in a bowl of ice water.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12038059\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12038059 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MienGaMemories_12_qed-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hong Pham cuts Chinese chives as he prepares miến gà at his home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. A photo on the fridge shows Pham and his family at a refugee camp in Thailand in 1980 after they escaped Vietnam and before they resettled in the United States. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Next, he placed the translucent noodles into a handmade ceramic bowl, ladled in the broth and seasoned it with pungent fish sauce. He garnished the soup with chicken, shiitake mushrooms, fried shallots, scallions and fresh chives picked from his herb garden.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He said his mom used to scoff at his precise plating technique and his insistence on pairing certain dishes with ceramic pieces that he made — a hobby he picked up during the pandemic — to make sure they “look pretty for the ‘Gram.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s a generational difference, Hong said, because his mom had to cook for survival, whereas he has the luxury of consuming food “with more intention.” We gathered around his dining table and slurped \u003cem>miến gà \u003c/em>with Hong’s daughters, Mira and Emi. The noodles were slippery and the soup had an intense chicken flavor combined with the umami of shiitake mushrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>After Tudo was born, the Phams were admitted to the United States as refugees and resettled in Michigan with the support of a Catholic charity. They rented a house in suburban Detroit. Tung worked as a janitor and assembled machinery parts at a factory, while Ly stayed home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“When I came here, I didn’t know one word of English, and I didn’t know how to drive. I didn’t know anything,” she said. “But I tried to raise my kids and teach them Vietnamese so they wouldn’t lose their cultural heritage.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036300\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12036300 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_22-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mira Pham, 7, helps her dad, Hong Pham, set the table to eat miến gà at their home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>When the children went to school full-time, she went back to work as a butcher, a trade she did in the wet markets of Vietnam, this time at a Jewish deli. She also volunteered at her Catholic church, often by making and selling Vietnamese food to raise money for various causes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My children didn’t understand why I spent so much time in church,” she said. “I explained that before we left, I prayed to God that if He delivers our family to safety, I would do everything I could to serve my faith.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The family started over with almost nothing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hong remembers wearing secondhand clothes for years because his parents were saving money to pay back their debt. For their first Christmas, his parents wrapped empty boxes and put them under a donated tree because they couldn’t afford to buy gifts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“My mom mentioned that when we first arrived, the [sponsor] families didn’t know what we liked to eat and so they would give us canned peas, canned corn and things like that — and a lot of mashed potato flakes and macaroni and cheese,” Hong said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036299\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12036299 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_21-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hong Pham dishes out miến gà at his home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>She didn’t know how to cook any of it, and instead used whatever she could find at American supermarkets to recreate Vietnamese food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think that was the ingenuity of that generation. She used all these American ingredients, but it was all made in a Vietnamese way,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Along the way, small acts of kindness helped the family survive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When someone noticed that Tung was taking the bus to get from one job to another, they offered him rides. Later, a sponsor gave him a used car and taught him to drive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It was a collective effort, a lot of generous people in the community helped us get through a tough time,” Hong said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hong said his parents constantly reminded him and his siblings how lucky they were to be in the land of opportunity and achieve their dreams. The four kids graduated from the University of Michigan and went on to earn graduate degrees. Hong became a doctor, Tam an engineer, Ngoc a public health expert, and Tudo an attorney.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though he lives far away from his parents, Hong and his wife stay connected to their heritage by speaking Vietnamese to their daughters and by sharing food with their community. They host cooking parties in their backyard to help raise funds for charities. More recently, they made an inventive version of \u003cem>banh mi\u003c/em> with brisket and homemade pickles to support victims of the Eaton wildfire in nearby Altadena.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12036302\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12036302 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/20250412_MIENGAMEMORIES_28-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Emi Pham, 10, her sister Mira, 7, and their dad, Hong Pham, eat miến gà at their home in South Pasadena on Saturday, April 12, 2025. Miến gà is a Vietnamese chicken and glass noodle soup garnished with shiitake mushrooms, scallions, fresh chives and crispy fried shallots. \u003ccite>(Alisha Jucevic for KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hong said Tung is 85 and no longer able to speak coherently due to a stroke. Ly takes care of him. Hong said he’s glad he recorded Tung’s memories of \u003cem>miến gà\u003c/em> years ago and regrets not doing more recordings while his dad was still able to speak. 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>This story was originally published by \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/\">CalMatters\u003c/a>. \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/subscribe-to-calmatters/\">Sign up\u003c/a> for their newsletters.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>House Republicans moved to cut off artificial intelligence regulation by the states before it can take root, advancing legislation in Congress that, in California, would make it unlawful to enforce \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2024/09/california-ai-safety-regulations-bills/\">more than 20 laws passed by the Legislature\u003c/a> and signed into law last year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The moratorium, bundled in to a sweeping budget reconciliation bill this week, also threatens \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2025/03/ai-regulation-after-trump-election/\">30 bills the California Legislature is currently considering to regulate artificial intelligence\u003c/a>, including one that would \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab512\">require reporting when an insurance company uses AI to deny health care\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab1018\">another\u003c/a> that would require the makers of AI to evaluate how the tech performs before it’s used to decide on jobs, health care, or housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The California Privacy Protection Agency \u003ca href=\"https://cppa.ca.gov/pdf/cppa_letter_opossing_budget_recon_enforce.pdf\">sent a letter\u003c/a> to Congress Monday that says the moratorium “could rob millions of Americans of rights they already enjoy” and threatens critical privacy protections approved by California voters in 2020, such as the right to opt out of business use of automated decision-making technology and transparency about how their personal information is used.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If passed, the law would stop legislative efforts in the works nationwide. Lawmakers from 45 states are or have considered nearly 600 draft bills to regulate artificial intelligence this year, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://www.transparencycoalition.ai/\">Transparency Coalition\u003c/a>, a group that tracks AI policy efforts by state lawmakers and supports legislation to regulate the technology. California has passed more bills since 2016 to regulate AI than any other U.S. state, according to Stanford’s \u003ca href=\"https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2025-ai-index-report\">2025 AI Index report\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The measure was introduced by Congressman Brett Guthrie, a Republican from Kentucky and chair of the House Energy and Commerce committee, who said it is necessary to resolve a patchwork of state regulation. On Wednesday, members of Congress in that House committee voted 30–24 along party lines to approve the budget bill that includes the moratorium. It will now advance to the House floor and potentially the Senate, where some observers say it faces an uphill battle against rules that limit policy changes in budget proposals.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_12034490 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/PadillaMentalHealthCaucus-1020x680.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As written, the moratorium would lift after 10 years. But it would have plenty of impact in the meantime, said Ben Winters, an attorney for the Consumer Federation of America. In California, he thinks the legislation could halt efforts by the Privacy Protection Agency to regulate automated decision-making, prevent enforcement of laws to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/explainers/new-california-laws-2024/#3650b1e8-5ee9-49e6-8504-a636608a7de4\">protect voters from deepfakes\u003c/a> and short circuit draft bills aimed at \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab1018\">protecting people from discrimination\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2024/12/california-lawmakers-want-to-ban-pricing-software/\">landlords who use AI to raise rent prices\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If this bill were to pass, California couldn’t protect its citizens from exactly those harms,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Companies and lobbyists are attempting to use Washington, D.C., to undermine California’s legislative AI leadership, said state Sen. Josh Becker, a Democrat from Menlo Park, in the heart of Silicon Valley. Becker has \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202320240sb1120\">authored\u003c/a> or \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2025/04/kids-should-avoid-ai-companion-bots-under-force-of-law-assessment-says/\">coauthored\u003c/a> a \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2025/04/kids-should-avoid-ai-companion-bots-under-force-of-law-assessment-says/\">number\u003c/a> of bills regulating AI, including one signed into law that requires AI makers\u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202320240sb942\"> provide tools to consumers so they know when generative AI is in use\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is an effort to tell people when something was created by AI, and so if this gets delayed for a year or two or 10 it’s going to have really negative consequences,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What’s unclear, he said, is exactly what regulation is covered by the moratorium. Would it, for example, wipe out privacy protections that Californians enjoy, and which were \u003ca href=\"https://www.wired.com/story/apra-privacy-bill-doomed/\">targeted by Congressional legislation last year\u003c/a>? And how would it affect a bill Becker authored that \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2024/04/data-broker-registry/\">gives people a way to quickly delete personal information collected by data brokers\u003c/a>, set to go into effect next January?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If they preempt that, it’s really negative for the country,” he said. “We’re [California] big enough that we can influence the country on our own, but if they preempt what we’re doing then it’s up to the federal government who has been unable to act on these issues.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Momentum for AI harms — and, possibly, for curbs on regulation\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For all the worry, the moratorium is very unlikely to pass if it reaches the U.S. Senate, said Gus Rossi, director of public policy and strategy at Omidyar Network, which funds \u003ca href=\"http://omidyar.com/omidyar-network-launches-a-dedicated-funding-effort-to-promote-inclusive-and-responsible-development-of-generative-ai/\">public interest AI projects\u003c/a> and tracks AI regulation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s because a federal regulation known as the \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48444\">Byrd rule\u003c/a> requires that budget reconciliation bills be related to fiscal matters, and, in Rossi’s reading at least, a 10-year moratorium on AI regulation doesn’t fit that definition. But Rossi still thinks people should take it seriously, arguing that it’s an attempt by House Republicans to establish a marker on what they think should be the approach to AI legislation, and a sign of things to come.[aside postID=science_1996504 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2025/03/IMG_0962-1020x765.jpg']“The action is in the states, not D.C.,” he said. “That’s why some people in D.C. are trying to stop states … particularly California, who’s leading the pack.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If this bill or a similar one in the future passes, Rossi expects it would get challenged in court and put a chilling effect on efforts to regulate AI by state lawmakers. It’s unclear whether it’s legal for the federal government to make a blanket moratorium on state regulation, said Winters, who worked in the U.S. Department of Justice during the Biden administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He agrees that the Byrd rule means the bill is unlikely to pass if it reaches the U.S. Senate, though Republicans may connect it to a $500 million plan to invest in AI for federal agencies and argue that it’s essential to limit state regulation in order to carry out certain budget provisions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The House bill makes exceptions for states to continue enforcing some laws related to AI, such as laws that enable more use of AI or that are intended to improve government efficiency. It’s reasonable to \u003ca href=\"https://iapp.org/news/a/policy-analysis-us-house-committee-seeks-moratorium-on-state-AI-rules/\">interpret one of the exceptions\u003c/a> to mean states like California could continue enforcing privacy law if this bill passed, said Amba Kak, codirector of The AI Now Institute, a research and equitable AI advocacy organization. But doing so is risky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We can’t count on the fact that courts will see it this way, especially in the context of an otherwise sweeping moratorium with the clear intention to clamp down on AI-related enforcement,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A House AI task force spent years discussing areas of bipartisan agreement and possible bills to pass to regulate AI, New York Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said in a hearing about the moratorium, but Congress was unable to pass any of that legislation. During that time, people \u003ca href=\"https://themarkup.org/artificial-intelligence/2025/04/30/kids-should-avoid-ai-companion-bots-under-force-of-law-assessment-says\">committed suicide from their interactions with chatbots\u003c/a> and kids and teens were \u003ca href=\"https://themarkup.org/artificial-intelligence/2024/12/11/1-in-6-congresswomen-targeted-by-ai-generated-sexually-explicit-deepfakes\">harmed by falsely generated sexually exploitative deepfakes\u003c/a>, and so states decided to act to do things like force AI chatbots to protect the private information of people seeking mental health care in Utah and require chatbots include a protocol for when someone expresses the desire to commit self harm in New York.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“All of these protections are protections that Congress refuses to take up, refuses, and so states are taking up this responsibility,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “Let states protect people. A moratorium is a deeply dangerous idea at this moment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Congresswoman Doris Matsui, a Democrat from the Sacramento area, echoed Ocasio-Cortez at the hearing, saying, “We can’t shoot ourselves in the foot by stopping the good work states have done and will continue to do.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters of the moratorium identify different sorts of harm if it doesn’t pass. A patchwork of state regulations of AI “is the fastest way to secure Chinese dominance of AI,” said Jay Obernolte, a Republican from California and co-chair of the House AI task force. He supports a moratorium, and if Congress fails to act, he said the people it will hurt most are entrepreneurs who can’t afford to follow regulatory regimes passed by different states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The most destructive thing is if there’s fear out there that every few years as the winds of political fortune shift, the rules governing the use of AI completely change,” he said during the hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Broader pushback against AI regulation\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The proposed moratorium is in line with efforts to prevent regulation of AI by President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance, who say such regulations will stifle innovation. A \u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/removing-barriers-to-american-leadership-in-artificial-intelligence/\">White House plan\u003c/a> to promote growth of the AI industry and likely reduce regulation is due out by this summer. Companies like Amazon, Google, Meta, and big businesses who use AI have lobbied in Sacramento and Washington, D.C., to prevent regulation of the technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guthrie’s proposal comes a few days after Sen. Ted Cruz, a Republican from Texas, \u003ca href=\"https://punchbowl.news/article/tech/cruz-to-push-ai-regulation/\">pushed for “light touch” AI regulation\u003c/a> to ensure the United States maintains AI supremacy over other nations and to, in Cruz’s words, “prevent needless state over-regulation.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The intent of Guthrie’s bill, Winters believes, is to send a signal to tech companies and open up the door to possible future legislation if the budget reconciliation bill fails to pass. It’s a trend consistent with Senator Cruz’s statement last week and \u003ca href=\"https://www.energy.gov/articles/doe-identifies-16-federal-sites-across-country-data-center-and-ai-infrastructure\">efforts to remove red tape for data center projects on federal land\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’d describe this as … explicitly saying we are supporting the AI companies more than the American people,” he said. “We’re seeing an explicit turn toward a deregulatory state.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Federal lawmakers have steadily increased the number of bills they propose related to AI in recent years, but they have passed relatively few of them into law, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2025-ai-index-report\">AI Index report\u003c/a>. Out of more 220 bills proposed last year, only four passed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By contrast, state lawmakers passed more than 130 bills to regulate AI last year. California passed \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2024/09/california-ai-safety-regulations-bills/\">22 bills last year\u003c/a>, more than any other state, and \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2024/05/ca-eu-ai-regulation/\">attempted to harmonize its rules with the European Union’s AI Act\u003c/a> and other U.S. states. \u003ca href=\"https://csmapnyu.org/impact/policy/the-state-of-state-technology-policy-2024-report\">The 2024 State of State Tech Policy report\u003c/a>, from NYU’s Center for Social Media and Politics, found a 163% increase in tech policy proposals by state lawmakers last year compared to 2023. That trend is driven by one-party control in the vast majority of state houses across the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The adage that states are the laboratories of democracy is still true, said Scott Brennen, a coauthor of the State of State Tech Policy report, so shutting down their ability to try out different approaches doesn’t seem like a good idea and could undercut the federal government’s ability to make better policy. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As written, the moratorium would lift after 10 years. But it would have plenty of impact in the meantime, said Ben Winters, an attorney for the Consumer Federation of America. In California, he thinks the legislation could halt efforts by the Privacy Protection Agency to regulate automated decision-making, prevent enforcement of laws to \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/explainers/new-california-laws-2024/#3650b1e8-5ee9-49e6-8504-a636608a7de4\">protect voters from deepfakes\u003c/a> and short circuit draft bills aimed at \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab1018\">protecting people from discrimination\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2024/12/california-lawmakers-want-to-ban-pricing-software/\">landlords who use AI to raise rent prices\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If this bill were to pass, California couldn’t protect its citizens from exactly those harms,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Companies and lobbyists are attempting to use Washington, D.C., to undermine California’s legislative AI leadership, said state Sen. Josh Becker, a Democrat from Menlo Park, in the heart of Silicon Valley. Becker has \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202320240sb1120\">authored\u003c/a> or \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2025/04/kids-should-avoid-ai-companion-bots-under-force-of-law-assessment-says/\">coauthored\u003c/a> a \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2025/04/kids-should-avoid-ai-companion-bots-under-force-of-law-assessment-says/\">number\u003c/a> of bills regulating AI, including one signed into law that requires AI makers\u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202320240sb942\"> provide tools to consumers so they know when generative AI is in use\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“This is an effort to tell people when something was created by AI, and so if this gets delayed for a year or two or 10 it’s going to have really negative consequences,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What’s unclear, he said, is exactly what regulation is covered by the moratorium. Would it, for example, wipe out privacy protections that Californians enjoy, and which were \u003ca href=\"https://www.wired.com/story/apra-privacy-bill-doomed/\">targeted by Congressional legislation last year\u003c/a>? And how would it affect a bill Becker authored that \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2024/04/data-broker-registry/\">gives people a way to quickly delete personal information collected by data brokers\u003c/a>, set to go into effect next January?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“If they preempt that, it’s really negative for the country,” he said. “We’re [California] big enough that we can influence the country on our own, but if they preempt what we’re doing then it’s up to the federal government who has been unable to act on these issues.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Momentum for AI harms — and, possibly, for curbs on regulation\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For all the worry, the moratorium is very unlikely to pass if it reaches the U.S. Senate, said Gus Rossi, director of public policy and strategy at Omidyar Network, which funds \u003ca href=\"http://omidyar.com/omidyar-network-launches-a-dedicated-funding-effort-to-promote-inclusive-and-responsible-development-of-generative-ai/\">public interest AI projects\u003c/a> and tracks AI regulation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That’s because a federal regulation known as the \u003ca href=\"https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48444\">Byrd rule\u003c/a> requires that budget reconciliation bills be related to fiscal matters, and, in Rossi’s reading at least, a 10-year moratorium on AI regulation doesn’t fit that definition. But Rossi still thinks people should take it seriously, arguing that it’s an attempt by House Republicans to establish a marker on what they think should be the approach to AI legislation, and a sign of things to come.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>“The action is in the states, not D.C.,” he said. “That’s why some people in D.C. are trying to stop states … particularly California, who’s leading the pack.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If this bill or a similar one in the future passes, Rossi expects it would get challenged in court and put a chilling effect on efforts to regulate AI by state lawmakers. It’s unclear whether it’s legal for the federal government to make a blanket moratorium on state regulation, said Winters, who worked in the U.S. Department of Justice during the Biden administration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He agrees that the Byrd rule means the bill is unlikely to pass if it reaches the U.S. Senate, though Republicans may connect it to a $500 million plan to invest in AI for federal agencies and argue that it’s essential to limit state regulation in order to carry out certain budget provisions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The House bill makes exceptions for states to continue enforcing some laws related to AI, such as laws that enable more use of AI or that are intended to improve government efficiency. It’s reasonable to \u003ca href=\"https://iapp.org/news/a/policy-analysis-us-house-committee-seeks-moratorium-on-state-AI-rules/\">interpret one of the exceptions\u003c/a> to mean states like California could continue enforcing privacy law if this bill passed, said Amba Kak, codirector of The AI Now Institute, a research and equitable AI advocacy organization. But doing so is risky.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We can’t count on the fact that courts will see it this way, especially in the context of an otherwise sweeping moratorium with the clear intention to clamp down on AI-related enforcement,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A House AI task force spent years discussing areas of bipartisan agreement and possible bills to pass to regulate AI, New York Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said in a hearing about the moratorium, but Congress was unable to pass any of that legislation. During that time, people \u003ca href=\"https://themarkup.org/artificial-intelligence/2025/04/30/kids-should-avoid-ai-companion-bots-under-force-of-law-assessment-says\">committed suicide from their interactions with chatbots\u003c/a> and kids and teens were \u003ca href=\"https://themarkup.org/artificial-intelligence/2024/12/11/1-in-6-congresswomen-targeted-by-ai-generated-sexually-explicit-deepfakes\">harmed by falsely generated sexually exploitative deepfakes\u003c/a>, and so states decided to act to do things like force AI chatbots to protect the private information of people seeking mental health care in Utah and require chatbots include a protocol for when someone expresses the desire to commit self harm in New York.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“All of these protections are protections that Congress refuses to take up, refuses, and so states are taking up this responsibility,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “Let states protect people. A moratorium is a deeply dangerous idea at this moment.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Congresswoman Doris Matsui, a Democrat from the Sacramento area, echoed Ocasio-Cortez at the hearing, saying, “We can’t shoot ourselves in the foot by stopping the good work states have done and will continue to do.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Supporters of the moratorium identify different sorts of harm if it doesn’t pass. A patchwork of state regulations of AI “is the fastest way to secure Chinese dominance of AI,” said Jay Obernolte, a Republican from California and co-chair of the House AI task force. He supports a moratorium, and if Congress fails to act, he said the people it will hurt most are entrepreneurs who can’t afford to follow regulatory regimes passed by different states.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The most destructive thing is if there’s fear out there that every few years as the winds of political fortune shift, the rules governing the use of AI completely change,” he said during the hearing.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Broader pushback against AI regulation\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The proposed moratorium is in line with efforts to prevent regulation of AI by President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance, who say such regulations will stifle innovation. A \u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/removing-barriers-to-american-leadership-in-artificial-intelligence/\">White House plan\u003c/a> to promote growth of the AI industry and likely reduce regulation is due out by this summer. Companies like Amazon, Google, Meta, and big businesses who use AI have lobbied in Sacramento and Washington, D.C., to prevent regulation of the technology.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Guthrie’s proposal comes a few days after Sen. Ted Cruz, a Republican from Texas, \u003ca href=\"https://punchbowl.news/article/tech/cruz-to-push-ai-regulation/\">pushed for “light touch” AI regulation\u003c/a> to ensure the United States maintains AI supremacy over other nations and to, in Cruz’s words, “prevent needless state over-regulation.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The intent of Guthrie’s bill, Winters believes, is to send a signal to tech companies and open up the door to possible future legislation if the budget reconciliation bill fails to pass. It’s a trend consistent with Senator Cruz’s statement last week and \u003ca href=\"https://www.energy.gov/articles/doe-identifies-16-federal-sites-across-country-data-center-and-ai-infrastructure\">efforts to remove red tape for data center projects on federal land\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I’d describe this as … explicitly saying we are supporting the AI companies more than the American people,” he said. “We’re seeing an explicit turn toward a deregulatory state.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Federal lawmakers have steadily increased the number of bills they propose related to AI in recent years, but they have passed relatively few of them into law, according to the \u003ca href=\"https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2025-ai-index-report\">AI Index report\u003c/a>. Out of more 220 bills proposed last year, only four passed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By contrast, state lawmakers passed more than 130 bills to regulate AI last year. California passed \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2024/09/california-ai-safety-regulations-bills/\">22 bills last year\u003c/a>, more than any other state, and \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2024/05/ca-eu-ai-regulation/\">attempted to harmonize its rules with the European Union’s AI Act\u003c/a> and other U.S. states. \u003ca href=\"https://csmapnyu.org/impact/policy/the-state-of-state-technology-policy-2024-report\">The 2024 State of State Tech Policy report\u003c/a>, from NYU’s Center for Social Media and Politics, found a 163% increase in tech policy proposals by state lawmakers last year compared to 2023. That trend is driven by one-party control in the vast majority of state houses across the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The adage that states are the laboratories of democracy is still true, said Scott Brennen, a coauthor of the State of State Tech Policy report, so shutting down their ability to try out different approaches doesn’t seem like a good idea and could undercut the federal government’s ability to make better policy. Since AI is getting integrated into an ever-wider range of tools, Guthrie’s moratorium appears to apply widely, he added, including to social media platforms, ongoing efforts by states to protect children online, and data privacy protections that address automated decision making.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I don’t necessarily think state regulation of AI is always the best course of action, there are definitely areas like consumer data protection where it would be better if the federal government took the lead, but the federal government isn’t taking the lead,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>This article was \u003ca href=\"https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2025/05/state-ai-regulation-ban/\">originally published on CalMatters\u003c/a> and was republished under the \u003ca href=\"https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/\">Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives\u003c/a> license.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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Nearly 600 elementary and high school students have participated in the program, culminating in this month’s release of an anthology: “\u003ca href=\"https://poets.org/text/gardening-public-flowerfest-poetry-and-civic-repair\">Gardening In The Public Flowerfest\u003c/a>.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“[Poetry is] about empathy. It’s about dreaming. It’s about pleasure,” Taylor said. “And it’s this art form where you don’t need an editor or a studio. You just have a pen and paper. and the details around you. And suddenly you have a bit more power over your story and your life.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Taylor pointed out that students in \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/contra-costa-county\">Contra Costa County schools\u003c/a> have some of the lowest per capita funding for\u003ca href=\"https://mapartscontracosta.org/creative-pulse-report/Creative-Pulse-Report.pdf\"> arts programming\u003c/a> in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“And arts programming is really important for imaginative life,” Taylor said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040360\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Thomas-Poem-1-scaled-e1747343213164.jpeg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040360\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Thomas-Poem-1-scaled-e1747343213164.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1500\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A glimpse into the poetry notebook belonging to Thomas Kasuga-Jenks, a fourth grader in El Cerrito, Calif., who penned a poem about resilience. \u003ccite>(Courtesy Gabriel Cortez)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Fourth grader Thomas Kasuga-Jenks said poetry’s connection to resilience allows him to imagine other possibilities. “You can make things that nobody’s ever seen before,” he said. “And sometimes the things nobody’s ever seen before have them change their ways.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Sometimes you’re afraid to speak it out loud. Sometimes you’re even afraid to think it out loud,” Maya Colmenares said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNbHPPJXGco\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In your writing, you can be strong and you can even proclaim that truth to other people, even if they don’t agree.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think poetry has always been etched into me, like faith,” said Yasmin Dos Santos Almeida, an 11th grade student.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When she thinks about poetry and resilience, she remembers immigrating to America as a child and reading a book of rhymes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The only way that I thought of how to learn English was to write these little sentences where they sounded poetic and rhythmic.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040358\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Yasmin-e1747335991443.jpeg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-12040358\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Yasmin-e1747335991443-800x1067.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Yasmin-e1747335991443-800x1067.jpeg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Yasmin-e1747335991443-160x213.jpeg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Yasmin-e1747335991443.jpeg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Yasmin Dos Santos Almeida, an 11th grader, said poetry helped her learn English when she immigrated to the U.S. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Tess Taylor)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>The Unseen American Dream \u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>\u003cstrong>by Yasmin Dos Santos Almeida\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>They crossed the border, heads held low,\u003cbr>\nThrough endless nights, through winds that blew.\u003cbr>\nThey left behind a land in flames,\u003cbr>\nWhere tears fell like unspoken names.\u003c/em>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The gates that promised warmth and light\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Are locked, they say, “You have no right.”\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>How unfair this world, how cruel the game,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>For some, it’s wealth; for others, shame.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The child born here, in golden halls,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Will never know the weight of walls.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>While those who flee with hungry eyes,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Will face a future wrapped in lies.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The world is blind to all they’ve known,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>To all they’ve left and called their own.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>The laws that say who can belong,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Are written in a bitter song.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>And every line, and every plea\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Is drowned by power’s endless sea.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040366\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Isaac-e1747336684675.jpeg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-12040366\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Isaac-e1747336684675-800x1067.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Isaac-e1747336684675-800x1067.jpeg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Isaac-e1747336684675-160x213.jpeg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Isaac-e1747336684675.jpeg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Isaac Fried, 10, posed with his poetry notebook in El Cerrito High School’s radio studio on April 3, 2025. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Tess Taylor )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Yet still they rise, though hope is thin,\u003cbr>\nA fight to see the light within.\u003cbr>\nFor the privilege of the few,\u003cbr>\nMeans the broken dreams of me and you.\u003cbr>\nInjustice reigns, while silence falls,\u003cbr>\nAnd still, they walk—without a call.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Isaac Fried, another fourth grader, sees poetry as a way to channel his inward emotions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I speak up, but sometimes there’s things I just like to keep private,” he said. “ If I write them, I can write whatever I want. Unlike people, a book will never scorn me for what I write.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Le Asia Anderson, a senior at El Cerrito High, said writing helps her look for growth within herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not even like I’m searching for anything. 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Anderson said writing helps her “see new things.” \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Tess Taylor )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>I am a button \u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>\u003cstrong>by Le Asia Anderson\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>I feel as if I’m a button,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>trying in this life.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>A small button.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>hanging on by one thread.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Knowing that I’m trying.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Knowing that I’ll stay.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Right here\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>In this life,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>In my life.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The students spoke with \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/californiareportmagazine\">The California Report Magazine\u003c/a> host Sasha Khokha as part of a series on Californians and resilience. To hear the students’ poems as part of this week’s episode of the show, click the red play button at the top of the page.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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for others, shame.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The child born here, in golden halls,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Will never know the weight of walls.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>While those who flee with hungry eyes,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Will face a future wrapped in lies.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The world is blind to all they’ve known,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>To all they’ve left and called their own.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>The laws that say who can belong,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Are written in a bitter song.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>And every line, and every plea\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Is drowned by power’s endless sea.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040366\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Isaac-e1747336684675.jpeg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-12040366\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Isaac-e1747336684675-800x1067.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Isaac-e1747336684675-800x1067.jpeg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Isaac-e1747336684675-160x213.jpeg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/Isaac-e1747336684675.jpeg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Isaac Fried, 10, posed with his poetry notebook in El Cerrito High School’s radio studio on April 3, 2025. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Tess Taylor )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Yet still they rise, though hope is thin,\u003cbr>\nA fight to see the light within.\u003cbr>\nFor the privilege of the few,\u003cbr>\nMeans the broken dreams of me and you.\u003cbr>\nInjustice reigns, while silence falls,\u003cbr>\nAnd still, they walk—without a call.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Isaac Fried, another fourth grader, sees poetry as a way to channel his inward emotions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I speak up, but sometimes there’s things I just like to keep private,” he said. “ If I write them, I can write whatever I want. Unlike people, a book will never scorn me for what I write.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Le Asia Anderson, a senior at El Cerrito High, said writing helps her look for growth within herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s not even like I’m searching for anything. It just helps me see new things that I wouldn’t know unless I’m writing about it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040363\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/LeAsia-e1747336803777.jpeg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-12040363\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/LeAsia-e1747336803777-800x1067.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/LeAsia-e1747336803777-800x1067.jpeg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/LeAsia-e1747336803777-160x213.jpeg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/LeAsia-e1747336803777.jpeg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Le Asia Anderson, a senior at El Cerrito High, posed for a photograph in El Cerrito High School’s radio studio on April 3, 2025. Anderson said writing helps her “see new things.” \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Tess Taylor )\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003cstrong>I am a button \u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>\u003cstrong>by Le Asia Anderson\u003c/strong>\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>I feel as if I’m a button,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>trying in this life.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>A small button.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>hanging on by one thread.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Knowing that I’m trying.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Knowing that I’ll stay.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Right here\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>In this life,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>In my life.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The students spoke with \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/californiareportmagazine\">The California Report Magazine\u003c/a> host Sasha Khokha as part of a series on Californians and resilience. To hear the students’ poems as part of this week’s episode of the show, click the red play button at the top of the page.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\u003cp>Frances Kakugawa is a firm believer that the act of caring for another human being can inspire poetry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She knows this from experience, having cared for her mother, Matsue, who was diagnosed with \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/alzheimers\">Alzheimer’s \u003c/a>in the 1990s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Panicked that she would forget how to write her own name, Matsue penned her signature again and again and again in notebooks, Kakugawa recounted to a group of older adults at a Sacramento community center last October.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the event, Kakugawa read from her poem, “Five Notebooks.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Five notebooks, one hundred sheets,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Two hundred pages, twenty two lines per page.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Twenty two thousand Matsue Kakugawa.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Twenty two thousand attempts\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>To save herself from the thief\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Who was stealing her name.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12012811\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12012811\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The poem “Mother Into Child, Child Into Mother,” which was the first poem Frances Kakugawa wrote about being her mother’s caregiver on Oct. 29, 2024. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Poetry helped Kakugawa take control of the painful experience of watching her mother’s cognitive abilities decline. With pen and paper, she transformed caregiving into something profound, while preserving her mother’s dignity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the middle of chaos, writing poetry helped me make sense of what was going on,” Kakugawa said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the decades since her mother was diagnosed, Kakugawa has continued inspiring other caregivers to write poetry. For about 20 years, she’s run a poetry group in Sacramento for caregivers. She helps caregivers write poetry during monthly sessions and during lectures on elder care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kakugawa believes caregivers need spaces to express themselves. The role is often all-consuming, leaving people isolated, exhausted and with little time to focus on themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_12038795 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/250505-SUZY-DEGAZON-NM-05-KQED-1020x599.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re able to process that through poetry, and become the kind of caregiver that is needed,” Kakugawa said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nearly \u003ca href=\"https://www.alz.org/professionals/public-health/state-overview/california\">1.4 million\u003c/a> unpaid caregivers in California are providing care for people with Alzheimer’s disease or dementia, according to the Alzheimer’s Association. And the share of older adults in the state is growing, with the Public Policy Institute of California \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-aging-population/\">projecting \u003c/a>almost one-quarter of Californians to be age 65 or older by 2040. That means many more people caring for older adults may be looking for avenues to relieve stress and share their experiences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Studies have documented the \u003ca href=\"https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7447694/\">positive impact\u003c/a> of poetry on emotional well-being, but research examining whether writing poetry helps caregivers specifically is limited. A 2011 clinical trial \u003ca href=\"https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21859411/\">tested \u003c/a>the effectiveness of writing poetry for family caregivers of people with dementia. The caregivers saw a range of benefits to writing poems, like a sense of pride, catharsis and greater acceptance of their loved ones and their illnesses. .\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One example described in the trial was a woman who had been irritated by the constant laughter of her spouse. After writing a poem, “she realized that his laugh was the only sound left to her husband; suddenly, it became something to hold onto and to preserve.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘Caregiver Confidential’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At his home in Sacramento, Ross Powers flipped through a manuscript of poems he wrote during Kakugawa’s poetry group. He’s calling the manuscript “Caregiver Confidential.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The poems are about caregiving for his late wife, Michela, who died in 2022. Michela had been diagnosed with progressive supranuclear palsy, a condition that causes dementia and problems with movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12012813\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12012813\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ross Powers’ home decorated with artwork made by his late wife, Michela Maiden, in Sacramento on Oct. 29, 2024. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Her artwork fills the walls of his living room and her presence is everywhere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He and Michela started dating in the 1980s. She was clever, funny and naturally curious, knowing the right questions to ask to keep conversations flowing. She liked to entertain those around her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Michela’s condition worsened, she lost the ability to read or write. She depended on her husband for everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Powers tried joining a support group, but the mood was too dark for him. Then he learned about Kakugawa’s poetry group, and that changed everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These were people who were willing to talk, not just in an ordinary conversation, but they were willing to try and squeeze their emotions into some other form,” Powers said. “It might be an exaggeration to say it saved my life, but it saved some part of my sanity. It gave me a place to stand.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Writing poetry helped him process this massive and confusing responsibility of caring for his wife. She needed him, and he would be there for her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Being of service to her was probably the great privilege of my life,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040339\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2500px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040339\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2500\" height=\"841\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED.jpg 2500w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-800x269.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-1020x343.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-160x54.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-1536x517.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-2048x689.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-1920x646.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2500px) 100vw, 2500px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Left: Ross Powers speaks about his experience as a dementia caregiver for his late wife, Michela Maiden, at his home in Sacramento on Oct. 29, 2024. Right: Ross Powers holds a photo of his late wife, Michela Maiden, who was diagnosed with a form of dementia, at their home in Sacramento on Oct. 29, 2024. Ross Powers was his wife’s caregiver for 3 years. Ross now attends Frances Kakugawa’s poetry support group for dementia caregivers. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In his poem “Nursing,” Powers writes:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>place an arm around shoulders\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>lean close, study her eyes \u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>for signs of their meaning\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>slice, dice, crush, blend \u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>something she can swallow\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>bathe her, dress her\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>prep the meds, liquids, liquids \u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>always the liquids…\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Oh, call it nursing, so what?\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>call it care-giving or compassion\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>call it love if you want to\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘Am I the caregiver or the receiver?\u003cstrong>’\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Poems written by the caregivers also document a fleeting experience in time, memorializing the stories of the caregivers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last fall, Brenda Sue Pignata lost her husband, Frank.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They were both math teachers. When they met, Frank was the assistant headmaster at Sacramento Country Day School, and Pignata taught in Stockton. He asked her to dance during a math conference. He loved airplanes, and on one of their first dates, he flew her around in a little airplane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During their 40-plus-year marriage, the dancing continued with disco lessons, even after the craze was popular. They lived together in the unincorporated community of Rescue, Calif., calling it their “little piece of heaven.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an interview last spring, Pignata said she began noticing signs Frank’s health was declining around 2007. Her husband had always been a gentle soul, she said, but he started becoming easily frustrated as his short-term memory declined. The family rallied around him, though “nobody ever used the word dementia, nobody ever used the word caregiver,” Pignata said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gardening and journaling became her refuge. Pignata said Frank, who needed the comfort of knowing exactly where she was, would sit on the deck of their home and watch while she gardened. He continued to write her love letters and leave little notes for her to find.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_12035436 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/04/230401-Brittianna-Robinson-04-KQED-1020x680.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just months after her husband, Pignata, also died suddenly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At Pignata’s home in Rescue, her son Mike Smith read poems his mother wrote about caregiving for the first time. He worried his mother was so consumed with Frank that she neglected herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But writing poems about caregiving seemed to lift a weight off his mother’s shoulders. And now he has his mother’s poetry to read.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There is so much of her in this house. Everything I look at reminds me of her — and of him,” Smith said. “She has so much writing for me to read and learn what was going on in her mind.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Pignata was working on a book, “Dancing with Mr. P: Disco to Dementia,” that her son hopes to finish someday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of Pignata’s poems is about how she grew to appreciate simple moments with Frank. It’s called “Am I the caregiver or the care receiver?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I know she learned so much about caring for dementia patients, and dealing with the feelings of guilt, sadness, sorrow and grief,” Smith said. “And I guarantee you that other people are going to find that valuable. I just need to be able to get it out there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>The force holding the poets together\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>For Diane Woodruff, a caregiver from an earlier cohort, poetry helped express her gratitude to Kakugawa after the poetry teacher danced hula at the Alzheimer’s facility where her mother stayed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the piece, Woodruff described how Kakugawa transformed into a hula goddess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>I learned a valuable lesson from my poetry teacher and the Hawaiian hula goddess that day \u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>It is important to continue to create fun in the darkest times and places\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Laughter is the medicine of the Gods\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>It helps us get through the toughest times \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12012810\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-2-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12012810\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-2-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-2-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-2-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-2-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-2-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-2-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-2-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Frances Kakugawa interacts with her mall friends at the Arden Fair in Sacramento on Oct. 29, 2024. The group walks around the mall almost daily every morning. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hearing so many poems about pain and redemption, compassion and frustration and love over the years has inspired Kakugawa, but it has also left her feeling burned out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As caregivers gradually leave the poetry group over time, she expects it to fade away on its own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Growing up in Hawaii, Kakugawa decided she was going to become a writer when she was six years old. She kept her poetry a secret for years and escaped to the outhouse to enjoy rare moments of privacy and read whatever she could find.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now she shares her poetry with strangers — everyone from caregivers to older adults she meets at a shopping mall near her Sacramento home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She’s working on a book called “The Outhouse Poet: Reflections of a Writer.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kakugawa expects that book to be her last. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During the event, Kakugawa read from her poem, “Five Notebooks.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Five notebooks, one hundred sheets,\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Two hundred pages, twenty two lines per page.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Twenty two thousand Matsue Kakugawa.\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Twenty two thousand attempts\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>To save herself from the thief\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Who was stealing her name.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12012811\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12012811\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-6-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The poem “Mother Into Child, Child Into Mother,” which was the first poem Frances Kakugawa wrote about being her mother’s caregiver on Oct. 29, 2024. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Poetry helped Kakugawa take control of the painful experience of watching her mother’s cognitive abilities decline. With pen and paper, she transformed caregiving into something profound, while preserving her mother’s dignity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In the middle of chaos, writing poetry helped me make sense of what was going on,” Kakugawa said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the decades since her mother was diagnosed, Kakugawa has continued inspiring other caregivers to write poetry. For about 20 years, she’s run a poetry group in Sacramento for caregivers. She helps caregivers write poetry during monthly sessions and during lectures on elder care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kakugawa believes caregivers need spaces to express themselves. The role is often all-consuming, leaving people isolated, exhausted and with little time to focus on themselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“They’re able to process that through poetry, and become the kind of caregiver that is needed,” Kakugawa said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Nearly \u003ca href=\"https://www.alz.org/professionals/public-health/state-overview/california\">1.4 million\u003c/a> unpaid caregivers in California are providing care for people with Alzheimer’s disease or dementia, according to the Alzheimer’s Association. And the share of older adults in the state is growing, with the Public Policy Institute of California \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-aging-population/\">projecting \u003c/a>almost one-quarter of Californians to be age 65 or older by 2040. That means many more people caring for older adults may be looking for avenues to relieve stress and share their experiences.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Studies have documented the \u003ca href=\"https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7447694/\">positive impact\u003c/a> of poetry on emotional well-being, but research examining whether writing poetry helps caregivers specifically is limited. A 2011 clinical trial \u003ca href=\"https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21859411/\">tested \u003c/a>the effectiveness of writing poetry for family caregivers of people with dementia. The caregivers saw a range of benefits to writing poems, like a sense of pride, catharsis and greater acceptance of their loved ones and their illnesses. .\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One example described in the trial was a woman who had been irritated by the constant laughter of her spouse. After writing a poem, “she realized that his laugh was the only sound left to her husband; suddenly, it became something to hold onto and to preserve.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘Caregiver Confidential’\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>At his home in Sacramento, Ross Powers flipped through a manuscript of poems he wrote during Kakugawa’s poetry group. He’s calling the manuscript “Caregiver Confidential.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The poems are about caregiving for his late wife, Michela, who died in 2022. Michela had been diagnosed with progressive supranuclear palsy, a condition that causes dementia and problems with movement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12012813\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12012813\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/11/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-17-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ross Powers’ home decorated with artwork made by his late wife, Michela Maiden, in Sacramento on Oct. 29, 2024. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Her artwork fills the walls of his living room and her presence is everywhere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He and Michela started dating in the 1980s. She was clever, funny and naturally curious, knowing the right questions to ask to keep conversations flowing. She liked to entertain those around her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As Michela’s condition worsened, she lost the ability to read or write. She depended on her husband for everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Powers tried joining a support group, but the mood was too dark for him. Then he learned about Kakugawa’s poetry group, and that changed everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“These were people who were willing to talk, not just in an ordinary conversation, but they were willing to try and squeeze their emotions into some other form,” Powers said. “It might be an exaggeration to say it saved my life, but it saved some part of my sanity. It gave me a place to stand.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Writing poetry helped him process this massive and confusing responsibility of caring for his wife. She needed him, and he would be there for her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Being of service to her was probably the great privilege of my life,” he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040339\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2500px\">\u003ca href=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED.jpg\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040339\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2500\" height=\"841\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED.jpg 2500w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-800x269.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-1020x343.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-160x54.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-1536x517.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-2048x689.jpg 2048w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20241029_CAREGIVINGPOETS_GC-DIPTYCH-1-KQED-1920x646.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2500px) 100vw, 2500px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Left: Ross Powers speaks about his experience as a dementia caregiver for his late wife, Michela Maiden, at his home in Sacramento on Oct. 29, 2024. Right: Ross Powers holds a photo of his late wife, Michela Maiden, who was diagnosed with a form of dementia, at their home in Sacramento on Oct. 29, 2024. Ross Powers was his wife’s caregiver for 3 years. Ross now attends Frances Kakugawa’s poetry support group for dementia caregivers. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In his poem “Nursing,” Powers writes:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>place an arm around shoulders\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>lean close, study her eyes \u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>for signs of their meaning\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>slice, dice, crush, blend \u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>something she can swallow\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>bathe her, dress her\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>prep the meds, liquids, liquids \u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>always the liquids…\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>Oh, call it nursing, so what?\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>call it care-giving or compassion\u003c/em>\u003cbr>\n\u003cem>call it love if you want to\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>‘Am I the caregiver or the receiver?\u003cstrong>’\u003c/strong>\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Poems written by the caregivers also document a fleeting experience in time, memorializing the stories of the caregivers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Last fall, Brenda Sue Pignata lost her husband, Frank.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They were both math teachers. When they met, Frank was the assistant headmaster at Sacramento Country Day School, and Pignata taught in Stockton. He asked her to dance during a math conference. He loved airplanes, and on one of their first dates, he flew her around in a little airplane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>During their 40-plus-year marriage, the dancing continued with disco lessons, even after the craze was popular. They lived together in the unincorporated community of Rescue, Calif., calling it their “little piece of heaven.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In an interview last spring, Pignata said she began noticing signs Frank’s health was declining around 2007. Her husband had always been a gentle soul, she said, but he started becoming easily frustrated as his short-term memory declined. The family rallied around him, though “nobody ever used the word dementia, nobody ever used the word caregiver,” Pignata said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gardening and journaling became her refuge. Pignata said Frank, who needed the comfort of knowing exactly where she was, would sit on the deck of their home and watch while she gardened. He continued to write her love letters and leave little notes for her to find.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>",
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"content": "\u003cp>In the quiet, hilly neighborhood of East \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/richmond\">Richmond\u003c/a> Heights, a small group of neighbors is gathered to discuss the downy dead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We are a tight neighborhood, but this has brought us even closer because it’s just scary,” Max Bolling says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On his phone, Bolling has pictures of about a dozen bird casualties, mostly small: bluebirds, doves. Many have dropped dead in his Bernhard Avenue yard, which lies under a web of \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12016417/californians-pay-billions-for-power-companies-wildfire-prevention-efforts-are-they-cost-effective\">PG&E lines\u003c/a> strung from tall poles in this unincorporated area nestled between the bay and Wildcat Canyon Regional Park.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of the birds have obvious wounds; one is missing a head. Neighbors say they’ve found about 50 dead birds in recent weeks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Mark Hoehner says he’s seen three fall from the tallest power line above.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The sound was “like an electronic crack,” Hoehner says, “and it was most definitely — I don’t know why people want to think it’s a shooter from way down there — because the sound is absolutely coming from up there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040387\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12040387 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-8-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-8-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-8-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-8-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-8-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-8-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-8-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Max Bolling stands at the 6100 block of Bernhard Ave, where neighbors have reported dead birds, in Richmond on May 15, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>PG&E sent two of the dead birds, a mourning dove and a European starling, to the California Department of Fish and Wildlife, which says its necropsies showed signs of trauma but not electrocution. Though the exact cause of death could not be determined, officials say a BB gun or a slingshot could have caused the injuries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Still, neighbors aren’t buying it. They have a healthy dose of skepticism for PG&E; some say they’ve heard the power lines sizzle when the air is moist, such as in the morning fog.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That raises worries about more than just the local avian wildlife.[aside postID=news_12040111 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/05/GettyImages-2105332696-1020x687.jpg']“We are in a fire danger [area]; the canyon is right there,” Cindy Kupka says. “Why can’t they just come out and fix it? … Yeah, it seems to me like they’re just lying about it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a statement on Wednesday, PG&E spokesperson Tamar Sarkissian said the utility does not believe that there is an issue with its electrical equipment, adding that “the pole at issue is compliant with avian safe guidance, as established by the Avian Powerline Interaction Committee.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If there is one thing that \u003cem>has\u003c/em> spread like wildfire so far, it’s the story itself, a provincial whodunnit that was \u003ca href=\"https://abc7news.com/post/exploding-birds-plague-richmond-california-neighborhood-residents-plea-pge-fix/16389172/\">first covered by ABC7\u003c/a> and has since garnered write-ups in national outposts like People and Newsweek.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Part of it makes me feel like they’re laughing at California,” says Bolling. His neighbors quickly console him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I think people that care about animals do not think that,” says neighbor Sharon Anderson, who recalls her own disturbing experience. While walking her dog recently, Anderson says, she came across two Contra Costa County sheriff’s deputies investigating the scene.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040391\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12040391 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-27-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-27-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-27-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-27-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-27-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-27-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-27-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Power lines on the 6100 block of Bernhard Ave, where neighbors have reported dead birds, in Richmond on May 15, 2025. . \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“A second later, I heard this pop [that] sounded like a firecracker. And boom, out of the sky, this bird fell off the wire,” she says. “And I saw the sheriff run over to the bird, and I remember her saying it was eviscerated\u003cem>.\u003c/em>”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The deputy collected the bird, but neighbors say they don’t know whether it was analyzed. The Contra Costa County Sheriff’s Office did not respond to a request for comment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>From his nearby office, County Supervisor John Gioia says he intends to keep his eye on the case.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040386\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12040386 size-full\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-4-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-4-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-4-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-4-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-4-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-4-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/20250515_RICHMONDDEADBIRDS_GC-4-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Feathers remain at a home on Bernhard Avenue, where neighbors have reported dead birds, in Richmond on May 15, 2025. \u003ccite>(Gina Castro/KQED)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We dealt with the dead whale that was washed ashore on a beach in Point Richmond, and now, here on the other side of West County, we’re dealing with a large number of dead birds,” Gioia says. “And in both cases, [the] public’s always really concerned about a dead whale, dead birds, dead animals, and understandably, we want to understand what’s causing it and stop it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Back on Bernhard Avenue, a California Fish and Wildlife truck pulls up as the neighbors continue to talk. An officer, who did not want to be interviewed, begins to take stock of the scene, scattered feathers and all, and chat with residents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I just … just want it solved. It’s just a feeling of exhaustion and frustration,” Bolling says. “If it was in the middle of July — a \u003cem>bird\u003c/em> and it’s sparking? — it’ll just light up like that. We just want it fixed.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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Without immediate funding, some supporters are worried that the agencies may be forced to reduce operations before a sales tax measure can be voted on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s critical that we include in the adopted budget funding to keep transit agencies in operation in California,” Arreguín said. “We’re at the edge of a fiscal cliff, and the impact this will have on our state and particularly the Bay Area, will be significant.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He added, however, that Newsom’s decision not to include transit funds in the revised state budget was not surprising. California now faces a $12 billion budget deficit in the coming fiscal year, according to the governor’s revised proposal, and the Trump administration’s hostilities threaten to further exacerbate the state’s economic uncertainty.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040183\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1533px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040183\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMAGE-6-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1533\" height=\"1154\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMAGE-6-KQED.jpg 1533w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMAGE-6-KQED-800x602.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMAGE-6-KQED-1020x768.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/IMAGE-6-KQED-160x120.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1533px) 100vw, 1533px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A banner reading “Gavin: Fund Transit” hangs from the pedestrian bridge over US-101 at Utah and 18th streets in San Francisco on Tuesday, May 13, 2025. Public transit advocates in 12 cities across California dropped banners over highway overpasses to demand that Gov. Newsom include $2 billion in the upcoming state budget revision to keep transit systems running over the next two years. \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Fund California Public Transit.)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>“We knew when we submitted our budget request that it would be challenging,” Arreguín said. “We’re not going to expect that the federal government’s going to save us here, so it’s up to the state. We’re going to work harder over the next few weeks to make our case.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While Newsom’s revised budget proposal does not include the emergency transit funding, the state Legislature may decide to add it before the budget is finalized in June, Arreguín noted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the money doesn’t come through, Arreguín warned that problems like last week’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/12039472/bart-shuts-down-entire-train-service-due-to-computer-networking-problem\">hourslong BART outage\u003c/a> that resulted in massive traffic jams and frustrated commuters could become more common.[aside postID=news_12040025 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/GavinNewsom2025AP2-1020x680.jpg']Cyrus Hall, a transportation activist, urged state legislators to reconsider the emergency funding. Without the $2 billion requested by Wiener and Arreguín, transit agencies are going to struggle to survive, he said. Many of them, such as BART and Muni, will have to drastically reduce services, which could mean slashing weekend operations and running fewer trains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alternatively, transit agencies could also decide to sustain themselves by reallocating funds, Hall said, adding that money typically spent on upkeep may be moved around in order to keep buses running, which could lead to unexpected failures. It’s not sustainable, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Public transit is that linchpin that allows people to get to work, to get to school. Without it, particularly here in the Bay Area with our geography, transportation will collapse,” Hall said. “We need to find the money in order to keep the system running.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rebecca Long, director of legislation and public affairs at the Metropolitan Transportation Commission, said that because state funding is unreliable, Bay Area residents should prioritize long-term solutions such as the tax measure proposed by Wiener and Arreguín.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Long, while funds resulting from the measure wouldn’t be available until 2027, transit agencies could take out loans against the anticipated funding to prevent service reductions in the meantime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/jlara\">\u003cem>Juan Carlos Lara\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Cyrus Hall, a transportation activist, urged state legislators to reconsider the emergency funding. Without the $2 billion requested by Wiener and Arreguín, transit agencies are going to struggle to survive, he said. Many of them, such as BART and Muni, will have to drastically reduce services, which could mean slashing weekend operations and running fewer trains.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Alternatively, transit agencies could also decide to sustain themselves by reallocating funds, Hall said, adding that money typically spent on upkeep may be moved around in order to keep buses running, which could lead to unexpected failures. It’s not sustainable, he said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Public transit is that linchpin that allows people to get to work, to get to school. Without it, particularly here in the Bay Area with our geography, transportation will collapse,” Hall said. “We need to find the money in order to keep the system running.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rebecca Long, director of legislation and public affairs at the Metropolitan Transportation Commission, said that because state funding is unreliable, Bay Area residents should prioritize long-term solutions such as the tax measure proposed by Wiener and Arreguín.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Long, while funds resulting from the measure wouldn’t be available until 2027, transit agencies could take out loans against the anticipated funding to prevent service reductions in the meantime.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>KQED’s \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/author/jlara\">\u003cem>Juan Carlos Lara\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem> contributed to this report.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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"content": "\u003cp>As buying a home becomes \u003ca href=\"https://lao.ca.gov/LAOEconTax/Article/Detail/793\">more expensive each year\u003c/a>, families in California are renting for longer periods of time. According to the most recently available data, more than 40% of Californians are \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/tag/housing\">renters\u003c/a> — a higher proportion \u003ca href=\"https://www.ppic.org/blog/californias-renters/#:~:text=Renters%20make%20up%20a%20much%20larger%20share,remarkably%20consistent%20over%20the%20last%20six%20decades\">than any other state in the country\u003c/a> except New York.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>One of the many economic benefits of owning your own home, in addition to boosting your family’s wealth and long-term stability, is building credit through mortgage payments. Now, a recently enacted California law also offers renters a way to use their \u003cem>rent \u003c/em>payments to do the same thing — as long as they pay on time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>With the passage of \u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2747\">Assembly Bill 2747\u003c/a>, tenants can ask their landlord to share rent payments made on time — however, their lease defines that timeframe — to at least one credit bureau. Assemblymember Matt Haney, D-San Francisco, authored AB 2747 to give tenants an additional tool to boost their credit score, said Nate Allbee, Haney’s communications director.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People take paying rent seriously,” Allbee said. “What we’re hoping is that people who are making this financial commitment and doing the right thing, see their credit increase.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, how does sharing your rent payments with credit bureaus work if you choose to take advantage of this new law? Keep reading to learn what’s expected of landlords and what tenants should know before they make a decision about sharing this information.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How does reporting rent payments to credit bureaus work?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In the United States, three major credit bureaus — Equifax, TransUnion and Experian — \u003ca href=\"https://www.consumerfinance.gov/consumer-tools/credit-reports-and-scores/consumer-reporting-companies/companies-list/\">collect data on individual consumers\u003c/a> who take out loans or use credit cards. These companies then use that information to calculate a person’s credit score: a number that impacts their ability to take out a major loan, like a mortgage, or even to secure their next apartment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Each credit bureau \u003ca href=\"https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/what-is-a-credit-score-en-315/\">has different ways of calculating somebody’s credit score\u003c/a> and may prioritize payments for certain loans — like a mortgage or car payment — more than others. But generally, the better you are at paying back your loans and other financial obligations on time, the easier it will be for you \u003ca href=\"https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/how-do-i-get-and-keep-a-good-credit-score-en-318/\">to increase your credit score\u003c/a> and have access to more credit — and larger loans — in the future.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12040032\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12040032\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/88900824_qed.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1305\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/88900824_qed.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/88900824_qed-800x522.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/88900824_qed-1020x666.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/88900824_qed-160x104.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/88900824_qed-1536x1002.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/88900824_qed-1920x1253.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A sign advertising an apartment for rent hangs from a fire escape in front of an apartment building on July 8, 2009, in San Francisco, California. \u003ccite>(Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Landlords can already share \u003cem>late \u003c/em>rent payments with credit bureaus, which ends up hurting tenants’ credit scores. However, under AB 2747, a tenant can choose for at least one of these credit bureaus to be notified when they make an on-time rent payment. However, it’s the responsibility of the landlord — not the tenant — to make sure that credit bureaus receive this information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As of April 1, the law said California landlords must offer their tenants the option to share on-time payments with credit bureaus at the time of signing the lease. And even if the tenant declines at the time, the landlord is expected to then offer this option again at least once a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re a tenant on an existing lease, according to the law, your landlord should have spoken to you by now about this option — specifically, at least once between the time span of Jan. 1 and April 1.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If your landlord didn’t do this, the law doesn’t specify any penalties for landlords that failed to have these conversations during that time period — but as a tenant, you can still bring them up now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We want people to feel empowered and strong — the law is on your side here,” said Allbee, adding that landlords have “a responsibility to be updated with the laws of the state of California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Tenants: Before you make a decision …\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The goal behind AB 2747 is to help tenants improve their credit scores. But just how a credit score is calculated \u003ca href=\"https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/what-is-a-credit-score-en-315/\">is pretty complicated\u003c/a> — and can change depending on the credit bureau you’re looking at.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“There are so many different factors that go into your credit score,” said Lily Liu, CEO of Piñata, which has \u003ca href=\"https://www.pinata.ai/california-rent-reporting-ab2747/\">an online system where California landlords can share on-time rent payment history\u003c/a> with all three credit bureaus at once. These factors include “consistency of payments and history of \u003ca href=\"https://www.americanexpress.com/en-us/credit-cards/credit-intel/credit-tradelines/\">tradelines,\u003c/a>” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postID=news_12039595 hero='https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2025/05/GettyImages-1778666769-1020x765.jpg']\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re concerned about your ability to keep up these consistent, on-time payments over a longer period of time, you should factor this in before making a decision regarding AB 2747, said Leah Simon-Weisberg, legal director for the tenants rights group \u003ca href=\"https://www.acceaction.org/renterhelp\">Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment (ACCE)\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Are you ready to make a long-term commitment to not only paying on time, but also paying for this reporting?” she said. Simon-Weisberg has joined other housing advocates in criticizing AB 2747 for having tenants themselves cover the costs of sharing payment information with credit bureaus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Tenants shouldn’t have to pay for credit reporting, because you don’t pay your credit card company to do the same,” she said.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It’s still unclear how credit bureaus will process on-time rent payment data from tenants, she said. But she urged those who \u003cem>do\u003c/em> decide to move forward with sharing their information to take the long view.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Make a long-term commitment in doing it,” she said. “Because if you’re only reporting positive payments, and then there’s nothing, [credit bureaus] are going to assume that it’s negative.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Who is exempt from this new law?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Individual landlords who own a property with 15 or fewer units are excluded from this new requirement.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But if your landlord owns 15 or less units as either a corporation, an LLC or real estate investment trust — rather than as an individual — they \u003cem>will\u003c/em> have to offer tenants the option to share on-time payments with credit bureaus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_12011966\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 2000px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12011966\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/10/GETTYIMAGES-1244095544-KQED.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/10/GETTYIMAGES-1244095544-KQED.jpg 2000w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/10/GETTYIMAGES-1244095544-KQED-800x533.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/10/GETTYIMAGES-1244095544-KQED-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/10/GETTYIMAGES-1244095544-KQED-160x107.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/10/GETTYIMAGES-1244095544-KQED-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2024/10/GETTYIMAGES-1244095544-KQED-1920x1280.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">An apartment for rent sign is posted in South Pasadena, California, on Oct. 19, 2022. \u003ccite>(Frederic J. Brown/AFP via Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>So, to give real-world examples, if you’re renting a room at a friend or family member’s house and that’s the only home they own, this law does not apply to your situation. However, if your landlord is a corporation that owns three different apartment buildings throughout the city, they must follow AB 2747.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What should tenants and landlords know about complying with AB 2747?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>If you’re a tenant …\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you decide that you \u003cem>do\u003c/em> want your landlord to share your on-time rent payments to a credit bureau, you are expected to pay your landlord an additional $10 \u003cem>each time\u003c/em> you want your information shared.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This fee is meant to cover the costs for the landlord to pass this information on to a credit bureau, and is intended to cover the costs of their time and any fees charged by the company itself. However, the fee cannot be greater than $10 each month.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The tenant gets to choose when they want their on-time rent payments shared, and how frequently. For example, even if you pay your rent on time every month, you could tell your landlord to report only your payments during the first six months of the year — and you’d only have to pay your landlord the $10 fee for those six months.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Your landlord also cannot penalize you for not paying the $10 fee, and they can’t take it from your deposit or add it to your rent payment. Conversely, if a tenant fails to pay the $10 fee, the landlord is not obligated to report their payment information that month — even if it’s on time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What if you want to stop having your landlord share your rent payments with credit bureaus? 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Landlords can also use a paid platform like Piñata, which helps landlords comply with this part of the law.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Typically, we’re plugging straight into their rent payment processing system or property management software,” said Liu.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>What other questions do you have about housing?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Housing is one of the most crucial — and contentious — issues in the Bay Area, and here at KQED, we have \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/housing\">a whole team dedicated to exploring stories about housing affordability\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As part of our work, we also want to bring you explainers and guides about housing in the region, offering practical advice and insight for renters, homeowners and unhoused folks on a wide range of housing situations. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“People take paying rent seriously,” Allbee said. “What we’re hoping is that people who are making this financial commitment and doing the right thing, see their credit increase.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, how does sharing your rent payments with credit bureaus work if you choose to take advantage of this new law? Keep reading to learn what’s expected of landlords and what tenants should know before they make a decision about sharing this information.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>How does reporting rent payments to credit bureaus work?\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>In the United States, three major credit bureaus — Equifax, TransUnion and Experian — \u003ca href=\"https://www.consumerfinance.gov/consumer-tools/credit-reports-and-scores/consumer-reporting-companies/companies-list/\">collect data on individual consumers\u003c/a> who take out loans or use credit cards. 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However, under AB 2747, a tenant can choose for at least one of these credit bureaus to be notified when they make an on-time rent payment. However, it’s the responsibility of the landlord — not the tenant — to make sure that credit bureaus receive this information.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As of April 1, the law said California landlords must offer their tenants the option to share on-time payments with credit bureaus at the time of signing the lease. And even if the tenant declines at the time, the landlord is expected to then offer this option again at least once a year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If you’re a tenant on an existing lease, according to the law, your landlord should have spoken to you by now about this option — specifically, at least once between the time span of Jan. 1 and April 1.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If your landlord didn’t do this, the law doesn’t specify any penalties for landlords that failed to have these conversations during that time period — but as a tenant, you can still bring them up now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We want people to feel empowered and strong — the law is on your side here,” said Allbee, adding that landlords have “a responsibility to be updated with the laws of the state of California.”\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Tenants: Before you make a decision …\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The goal behind AB 2747 is to help tenants improve their credit scores. 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